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From YouTube: Road Ahead OpenShift Kubernetes & Beyond with Brian Gracely at OpenShift Commons Gathering 2019
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The Road Ahead OpenShift Kubernetes & Beyond with Brian Gracely at OpenShift Commons Gathering 2019
A
Cool
all
right,
so
we've
been
doing
this
for
three
plus
years
now,
I
think
we've
done
about
12,
13,
14
events.
When
we
first
started
doing
this
thing,
we
did
one
in
Seattle
at
the
very
first
cube
con,
and
essentially
it
looked
like
this.
It
was
lots
of
stuff
about
cloud
very
little
about
any
of
these
sort
of
use,
cases
and
stories.
A
It
was
a
lot
of
the
kind
of
technology
and
we
were
kind
of
just
hoping
that
tech
kubernetes
would
survive
at
that
point
in
time
it
was
a
very
cloudy
kind
of
a
vision
of
it
was
very
cloudy,
but
the
technology
was
was
the
front
and
center
of
what
we
did.
This
is
a
little
bit
of
what
it's
looked
like
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
The
events
grown
10x.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
spending
eight
hours
with
us
in
moderately
comfortable
chairs,
we're
very
thankful
for
that.
We're
thankful
for
everybody
who's
new.
A
It's
been
a
really
good
event
for
us
to
help
get
to
know
the
community
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
faces
that
come
back
so
that
part's
really
awesome.
We
feel,
like
the
event
now
and
looks
more
like
this.
It's
it's
sort
of
the
clouds
are
in
the
background.
The
stories
of
what
people
are
doing,
the
what's
possible
is
very
much
visible
into
what's
going
on
and
I
always
say
this,
there
wasn't
as
much
this
week.
A
I
was
sort
of
surprised,
but
usually
the
end
of
every
one
of
our
of
our
customer
talks
end
with
and
we're
hiring.
This
has
been
sort
of
the
list
of
companies
that
have
been
willing
to
come
up
and
tell
their
story
and
I
always
highlight
to
people.
If
somebody
is
in
your
industry
that
you
see
up
here
talking,
usually
that
means
there
are
a
couple
of
years
into
this
process.
There
are
a
couple
years
into
developing
software
faster,
getting
products
and
projects
to
market
faster.
A
This
should
be
sometimes
a
wake-up
call
as
to
kind
of
judging
your
company
against
where
the
rest
of
the
industry
is
now
people
ask
all
the
time.
Okay,
you're
doing
a
talk
called
the
road
ahead.
Is
the
road
ahead?
Gonna
be
lots
of
brownfield
stuff?
Are
we
just
doing
lift
and
shift
of
applications?
To
a
certain
extent?
You
saw
a
little
bit
of
that.
Is
the
road
ahead,
going
to
be
lots
of
green
fields
that
maybe
a
lot
of
sort
of
barriers
along
the
way
or
sort
of
narrow
things.
We
can
do.
A
A
So
all
of
these
could
sort
of
be
applied
to
what
does
the
future
look
like
for
whether
it's
kubernetes
or
OpenShift,
or
what
you're
trying
to
do
I
hope
what
you
took
away
from
today
very
much
was
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
in
terms
of
the
types
of
applications
that
you
can
automate
that
you
can
scale
that
you
can
make
beneficial
for
your
business.
We
heard
this
quote
this
week:
I
was
there
not
this
week.
A
A
In
terms
of
where
do
we
think
this
is
going
I
think
we
believe
we're
in
sort
of
the
third
era
of
where
kubernetes
is.
That
seems
a
little
bit
unusual
for
something
that's
five
years
old,
but
this
space
moves
fairly
quickly.
We've
made
some
fairly
big
jumps.
I
think
we've
jumped
from
what
was
very
early.
We
were
a
little
people
were
worried.
It
was
a
Google
project.
Was
it
going
to
be
the
next
reader?
A
Was
it
gonna,
be
the
next
groups
or
was
it
gonna
mean
the
next
big
thing
we
had
to
make
sure
it
was
open
source
we
had
to
make
sure
it
got
into
stable
governance
and
so
forth.
We
moved
from
there
to
being
able
to
do
both
really
new
applications,
stateless
to
being
able
to
lift
and
shift
doing
stateless
applications
having
a
bunch
of
different
patterns
and
I.
Think
what
you're
seeing
today
and
what
you're
hearing
people
say.
A
They're
looking
to
move
towards
is
the
stuff
that's
going
to
move
us
to
a
whole
nother
level
of
automation,
a
whole
nother
level
of
operator
technology.
That's
going
to
just
make
things
sort
of
work
and
that's
really
the
beginning
of
what
we're
into
right.
Now
what
we've
tried
to
do
over
the
last
16
18
months?
Part
of
it
was
part
of
the
core
OS
acquisition.
Part
of
it
was
just
getting
really
good.
Feedback
from
from
our
customers
is
in
essence.
A
They
said
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
be
in
our
public
environment,
public
cloud
environment,
whether
we're
going
to
be
in
our
private
data
center
environment
or
some
mix
of
it.
We
would
like
you
more
and
more
to
be
thinking
that
the
experience
that
we
did
would
do
with
OpenShift
should
be
as
it
is
like
in
the
public
cloud
and
so
I
hope
you
saw
somewhat
today
we'll
talk
in
the
AMA
session.
It
was
very
much
about.
We
want
operations
to
be
somewhat
simplified.
A
We
want
to
be
able
to
do
more
things
without
operations
feeling
like
they're,
always
juggling
things.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
things
with
standards
and
interoperability
when
one
makes
key
things
that
are
portable,
we
want
to
be
able
to
deliver
on
demand.
You
know
we
heard
people
talk
about
we're
delivering
so
much
on
demand,
we're
not
exactly
sure
kind
of
where
our
job
starts
and
stops.
I
think
the
way
to
read
that
is
less
about.
A
Are
you
working
yourself
out
of
a
job
and
are
you
being
a
great
product
manager
right
when
our
product
managers
come
up
here
and
talk
the
biggest
thing?
We
want
to
be
able
to
do
is
get
out
of
the
way
of
you
being
able
to
use
the
product
when
you
start
doing
that.
We
make
the
product
easy
enough
to
use
we're
doing
our
job.
That's
what
you're
doing
when
you
enable
self-service.
Obviously
we
want
it
to
be
secure.
A
A
Operators
is
a
concept
that
got
started
back
when
we
did
that
very
first
event
at
cube,
con
Brandon
Phillips,
who
at
the
time
was
at
core
OS,
said:
hey,
there's,
no
reason
that
kubernetes
can't
run
kubernetes
and
it's
expanded
beyond
just
kubernetes
running
kubernetes
to
kubernetes
running
all
of
the
internal
processes.
You
know
overcomes
you
for,
but
it's
also
going
to
be
a
really
big
part
of
more
complicated
applications.
So
we
took
you
know.
We
saw
spark
demonstrations
today,
but
lots
of
other
things
running
on
top
of
openshift
in
highly
automated
ways.
A
The
simplest
way
to
think
about
this,
or
to
explain
this
to
somebody
who
says
like
what
his
operators
mean
here.
It
is.
If
you
went
out
to
the
public
cloud
today
and
you
signed
up
for
a
database
as
a
service,
you
get
a
database
and
on
the
backend
you
don't
get
a
DBA.
You
get
software
that
runs
that
database
all
the
time
and
make
sure
it's
always
available
to
make
sure
it
gets
updated.
That's
what
operators
do
except
operators
allow
you
to
do
that
for
a
whole
bunch
of
applications.
A
You
got
to
operator
hub,
dolly,
oh
you'll,
see
those
and
anywhere
you
want
to
so
you're,
not
tied
to
any
specific
cloud
or
any
specific
environment.
You
can
take
that
as
a
service
anywhere.
You
want
to
consistency.
So
there's
one
other
thing
that
comes
up
all
the
time
and
people
come
to
these
events
as
they
go.
You
guys
do
this
weird
thing
where
you
say
kubernetes
and
then
you
say
open
shift
and
you
know,
should
I
just
use
the
stuff,
that's
upstream
or
should
I
you
know,
should
I
use
OpenShift.
A
You
know
we
want
new
stuff,
new
stuff,
that's
kind
of
fun
and
that's
great
right,
like
we
all
get
excited
about
new
stuff,
but
I
want
to
put
something
in
perspective
for
you
to
go
from
a
couple
of
projects
that
either
have
been
very
popular
or
will
become
very
popular.
It
took
Prometheus
18
months
to
get
from
version
one
to
version
two:
okay:
it
took
Sto
15
months
to
get
from
alpha
to
1
dot.
Oh
it's
taken
K
native
9
months
to
get
from
0
to
0.5
right.
A
We
get
very
excited
when
the
next
Q
Khan
comes
along
and
it's
like.
Oh
wow,
lots
of
shiny
objects
right
squirrel
and
we
always
kind
of
want
to
remind
you
guys
that
we
are
actively
involved
with
all
those
projects.
We
want
you
to
be
excited
about
those
project,
but
they
take
a
while
to
get
into
maturity
when
they
get
to
be
fairly
mature
or
we
help
them
become
mature.
That's
when
you'll
see
them
get
into
OpenShift.
Can
you
run
them
on
top
of
it,
because
it's
just
a
kubernetes
platform
yeah?
A
It
takes
everybody
a
long
time
to
get
this
into
production.
If
you
are
Google
cloud,
you
have
one
cloud
to
get
it
in
one
known
environment:
if
you
are
AWS,
you
have
one
environment.
If
you
are,
you
know
VMware
or
pivotal
or
rock
it
takes
a
while
to
stabilize
the
software,
and
nobody
is
really
any
different
than
their
it's
taking
people
upwards
of
four
or
five
months.
Sometimes,
vendors
skip
a
release
in
there.
A
So
keep
in
mind
how
long
it
takes
to
make
this
software
doable
for
you,
so
that
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
outages.
You
can
worry
about.
You.
Don't
have
to
worry
about
scalability.
You
know
stuff,
we'll
just
integrate
all
right
so
last
piece
before
I
go.
Where
is
all
this
stuff
going?
I
think
you're
going
to
hear
more
and
more
that
the
focus
becomes
less
about
kubernetes
Cooper
days
is
by
no
means
done.
A
There
continue
to
be
upgrades
and
enhancements
and
things
that
happen
to
core
kubernetes,
but
a
lot
of
the
work
in
this
in
this
space.
It's
really
kind
of
happening
around
kubernetes
right,
we're,
beginning
to
see
some
overlap
between
virtualization
and
containers
being
managed
by
kubernetes,
we're
beginning
to
see
new
ways
of
looking
at
sort
of
kubernetes
native
pipelines,
we're
seeing
some
things
there
kubernetes
specific
around
operations.
Obviously
a
lot
of
that
gets
baked
into
four,
but
we're
seeing
serverless
we're
seeing
service
mesh
we're
seeing
developer
experiences.
None
of
those
are
part
of
kubernetes.
A
Those
are
things
that
are
making
kubernetes
better,
but
they're,
not
part
of
kubernetes.
So
if
you're
looking
at
you
know,
where's
development
happening,
where
are
things
expanding
you're
gonna
begin
to
look
outside
of
core
kubernetes.
These
are
going
to
become
things
on
top
of
kubernetes.
Okay,
so
with
that
I'm
gonna
kind
of
wrap
this
up
real
quick
and
bring
the
real
smart
people
up
on
stage
if
you
enjoy
today-
and
you
would
like
to
enjoy
today's
kind
of
information
on
a
more
frequent
basis.
A
If
you
are
a
hands-on
learner,
learned
openshift,
comm
great
way
to
go,
basically
get
your
own
environments
and
test
out
all
sorts
of
things
get
experienced
and
exposed
to
a
lot
of
things.
If
you
are
a
sort
of
visual
learner,
Diane
does
an
awesome
job
every
week.
She
does
something
called
open
of
common
videos
there
on
YouTube.
A
Some
of
it
is
the
the
partners
and
technology
companies
that
we
work
with
telling
talking
about
what
they're
doing.
What's
new
and
kubernetes.
Sometimes
it's.
You
know,
end-users
from
the
for
the
community
and
I
host,
a
weekly
bi-weekly
ish
podcast
about
kubernetes
and
OpenShift
called
pod
CTL.
So
if
you
learn
that
way
or
you,
your
contest
person,
if
you're
a
reader
or
you
want
to
annoy
your
spouse
on
vacation,
all
of
these
books
are
available
to
you.
A
Most
of
them
are
free
Goodreads
for
the
most
part
they
may
be
3x
based,
they
will
get
updated
to
4x.
You
can
expect
to
see
books
on
operators
and
other
things
so
a
lot
of
stuff
out
in
the
O'reilly
and
in
Manning
catalog
for
open
shift.
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
bring
up
the
product
team
guys,
so
you
want
to
come
up
and
take
some
questions.