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From YouTube: KubeCon EU Office Hours: Red Hat Certification
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We know you have questions about Red Hat OpenShift Certification, so bring them! Our certification team can help you get ready for that all-important exam.
A
Good
morning,
good
afternoon,
good
evening,
wherever
you're
hailing
from
welcome
to
a
special
kubecon
eu
edition
office
hours
this
office
hour,
we
are
going
to
be
talking
to
our
red
hat
certification
team,
all
about
our
certification
program
here
at
red
hat
and
I'm
very
excited
to
introduce
the
one
and
only
randy
russell
everyone
randy.
Please
introduce
yourself
to
the
audience.
A
And
henry.
C
Hi
folks,
I'm
henry
mayne
and
I
manage
the
team
that
develops
our
platform
and
cloud
certification
exams,
which
includes
the
majority
of
our
exams
that
cover
over
openshift
and
things
kubernetes
related.
A
Awesome
so
this
is
cubecom
and
there
are
a
lot
of
certifications.
People
can
take
for
kubernetes.
So
you
know,
let's,
let's
tell
folks
a
little
bit
about
red
hat
certifications.
If
we
can
all.
B
Right
well,
so
let
me
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
certification
program.
Just
very
broadly,
you
know.
Basically
the
thing
that
is
really
different
about
red
hat
certifications
is
that
all
of
them
are
earned
by
taking
hands-on
exams,
and
these
are
entirely
hands-on
exams.
They
aren't
mostly
multiple
choice
with
maybe
one
or
two
hands-on
elements.
B
They
are
start
to
finish
practical
exams
where
you
work
with
a
red
hat
technology,
and
you
do
things
with
that,
like
you
would
do
on
the
job,
and
so
these
are
three
to
four
hour
long
exams
and
they're,
pretty
rigorous.
You
know
they.
We
we're
big
believers
in
in
having
people
show
what
they
know.
By
doing
it,
rather
than
asking
you
know,
answering
questions
about
it
now,
the
way
we
evaluate
these
is
you
know
we
basically
see
if,
if
things
work,
we
don't
necessarily
expect
you
to
do
things
in
a
certain
way.
B
We're
very
outcome
based
right,
because
you
know,
first
of
all,
there
are
different,
there's,
usually
more
than
one
way
to
accomplish
something
with
a
given
technology.
The
other
thing
is
is
sometimes
there
are
people
who
might
know
some
ways
to
accomplish
something
that
we
might
not
necessarily
anticipate
and
so
we're
very
outcome.
Based
did
you
make
this
particular
feature
of
you
know
openshift
and
kubernetes
work,
or
did
you
not
right?
That's
how
we
evaluate-
and
you
know
we
do
all
this
evaluation.
B
B
Now
it
is
important
to
note
you
know,
as
we
are
still
in
the
covit
19
era,
that
we
actually
have
multiple
ways
for
people
to
consume
these
exams.
The
most
recent
way
that
we
developed
we
developed
this
last
year
on
a
very
accelerated
timeline.
We
had
planned
on
doing
but
coveted
sort
of
forced
our
hand
to
really
put
our
foot
on
the
accelerator
and
get
it
done
quickly.
Is
the
remote
online
option.
So
there
is
a
way
to
take
these
exams
from
your
home.
B
You
know
somewhere,
where
you're
not
having
to
go
and
have
contact
with
other
people,
but
you
know
we
also
have
testing
center
exams.
We've
had
those
for
for
years.
As
with
you
know,
and
with
the
testing
center
exams,
there
are
actually
a
lot
of
testing
centers
opening
up
in
a
lot
of
different
countries
in
the
world.
Obviously,
there
are
some
places
where
they
are
still
under
lockdown
and
and.
B
Option
there,
but
you
know
the
testing
center
is
a
great
option
too,
if
it's
open
and
available
in
your
area,
because
sometimes
your
your
work,
your
your
home
environment,
might
not
be
the
best
place
to
take
an
exam,
because
that's
where
your
spouse
is
that's
where
your
dog
is.
Maybe
your
desk
looks
as
bad
as
mine
does
off
camera?
Okay?
Well,
so
that
the
problem
is
we're
not
going
to
let
you
take
an
exam.
If
your
desk
look
like
mine
does
and
so
testing
centers
can
be.
Very.
B
You
know
very
helpful
to
a
lot
of
people
in
terms
of
having
a
much
more
quiet.
You
know
orderly
environment,
to
take
an
exam,
and
then
our
you
know
actually
our
oldest
approach
to
delivering
is
in
in
a
standard.
B
You
know
training
classroom
and
we
can
do
this
both
in
public
open
enrollment
sessions,
but
we
can
also
do
this
private
ad.
You
know
at
a
customer
site.
If
there's
you
know
if
they
want
to
bring
us
in
to
do
a
number
of
people,
you
know
on
on
site,
not
surprisingly
we're
not
delivering
as
many
of
these
classroom
exams
now
during
covid,
but
you
know
they
are
available
again
in
some
some
areas
in
some
regions
that
are
perhaps
not
as
impacted
or
are
recovering
more
quickly.
But
you
know
really.
B
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
henry
now
and
have
him
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
certifications
that
we
offer
that
are
relevant
to
kubernetes
or
openshift,
and
just
to
explain
to
those
who
might
not?
You
know
be
as
plugged
into
the
red
hat
world
openshift
is
our
branded
kubernetes
product?
We
do
have
some
other
things
in
there
that,
in
addition
to
kubernetes,
but
when
you
hear
openshift
translate
that
to
kubernetes,
because
that
is
you
know
the
foundation
of
what
openshift
is
about.
B
So,
henry,
if
you
would
maybe
talk
a
little
bit
about
about
these
certifications,.
C
Sure
so
the
first
exam
that
I'm
actually
going
to
talk
about
might
be
a
little
surprising.
But
if
somebody
were
to
come
up
to
me
and
say,
I'm
really
interested
in
starting
on
an
open
shift
certification
path,
what
would
be
the
very
first
exam
that
I
should
take?
C
It's
actually
not
one
that
on
the
surface,
you
know
you
would
think
would
have
anything
to
do
with
openshift,
which
is
our
red
hat,
certified
system
administrator
exam,
and
this
is
sort
of
our
base
exam
that
covers
linux
system,
administration
skills,
and
you
know-
I
I
think
it's
probably
a
little
trite
to
say
it,
because
it's
said
so
many
times,
but
as
they
say,
linux
is
containers
and
in
order
to
really
do
well
in
the
world
of
containers,
I
think
it
helps
to
have
a
really
good
foundation
based
in
linux,
so
that
would
actually
and
and
openshift
is
about
containers.
C
So
that
would
be
the
first
exam
that
I
would
recommend
to
just
about
anybody
who
wants
to
get
a
good,
solid
start
in
openshift
certification
in
acknowledgment.
In
fact
of
the
of
the
fact
that
containers
are
becoming
just
more
and
more
critical
to
modern
I.t,
we
actually
revamped
the
red
certified
system
administrator
exam
at
the
end
of
last
year
to
include
some
coverage
of
not
openshift
but
container
related
technology.
So
that
would
be
the
very
first
exam
I
would.
C
I
would
suggest,
if
you
you
know,
if
you
want
to
both
get
a
feel
for
what
certification
exams
are
like
and
get
your
foot
in
the
door,
so
to
speak,
another
entry-level
sort
of
exam
on
the
path
to
openshift
certification
is.
C
We
also
do
have
a
an
exam
on
specifically
containers
and
kubernetes,
the
red
hat
certified
specialist
in
containers
and
kubernetes,
and
that
would
also
be
a
good
exam
to
test
the
waters
of
sort
of
certification
so
to
speak,
and
then,
once
you've
built
your
knowledge
up,
we
have
a
couple
of
exams
that
are
focused
on
openshift.
Specifically,
we've
got
the
red
hat
certified
specialist
in
open
shift
administration,
which
you
know
if
you're
somebody
who
spends
your
day
managing
openshift
clusters.
C
It
would
be
a
very
good
exam
to
look
look
into
and
then
we've
got
a
red
hat
certified
specialist
in
openshift
application.
Certification.
Excuse
me:
openshift
application
development
and
the
focus
of
this
exam
is
more
on
demonstrating
the
ability
to
take
an
existing
application
and
port
it
to
work
with
openshift.
C
C
C
And
openshift
container
container
platform,
so
those
are
our
existing
certifications,
but
you
know,
as
they
say,
wait,
there's
more.
We
actually
have
a
number
of
other
certifications
that
that
are
in
the
works
and
that
are
planned
for
later
on
this
year.
B
A
Know
either
to
be
honest
with
you,
I
don't
think
there
is,
but
at
least
I
know
I
haven't
heard
of
it
and
I
feel
like
I
would
have
heard
of
it
by
now,
if
we
were
given
its
last
day
of
kubecon.
So
thank
you,
but
the
next
question
is:
what
kind
of
benefits
does
a
certified
developer
get
like
in
terms
of
job
exposure,
etc?
Also,
does
the
exam
questions?
Are
they
on
practical
approach
or
theory
approach?
B
Well,
so
somebody
who
is,
who
is
red
hat
certified
is
essentially
being
their
skills,
are
validated
by
red
hat
right.
It's
that
it's
not
unlike,
if
you
are
going
to
have
to
have
an
electrician,
come
to
your
house
now.
Can
you
get
somebody
who
can
do
the
work
and
who
is
not
a
certified
electrician
sure?
Might
you
be
taking
some
risks?
B
Having
somebody
who
is,
the
only
thing
you
know
is
that
they
claim
that
they
are
an
electrician.
Well,
you
know
your
house
could
go
up
in
flames.
I'm
not
sure
that
it's
always
quite
that
dire
in
terms
of
somebody
getting
somebody
working
with
red
hat
technologies.
Who's
not
certified,
there's
a
lot
of
very
capable
people
out
there,
but
there
is
that
assurance
when
you
have
somebody
who's
certified
that
red
hat
has
actually
validated
their
skills,
and
I
think
our
particular
approach
that
it
is
very
hands-on
and
very
practical.
B
I
think
that
is
the
thing
that
that
really
does
offer
that
assurance,
and
so
you
know,
if
you're
the
individual,
who
is
certified
in
that
way,
you're
going
to
be
more
valuable
in
a
sense.
Why?
Because
there's
lower
risk
right
there,
you
know,
anytime,
you
are
hiring
somebody,
be
it
on
a
contract
basis,
be
it
as
a
full-time
employee.
B
B
Means
you
will
probably
get
paid
more,
but
here's
something
else
that
I
would
say
is
that
we
very
often
focus
on
what
is
the
advantage
to
that
individual,
and
I
think
it
is
that
you
know
you
have
a
a
good
career
path.
You
know
you
are
somebody
who
people
can
feel
confident
is
is
able
to
do
the
job
and
especially
with
a
hot
technology
like
kubernetes.
You
know
it
does
put
you
in
a
very
good
position,
but
I
I
always
like
to
emphasize
the
benefit
to
the
organization
right.
B
If
an
organization
looks
for
people
who
have
these
certifications
or
if
they
train
people
up,
and
we
have
a
great
training
program,
you
know
accompanying
all
the
certifications
if
they
train
their
existing
staff
up
and
use
certification
as
a
benchmark
to
establish
that
they
have
actually
acquired
the
skills
we
find
that
organizations
derive
huge
benefits.
Earlier
this
year
we
actually
commissioned
a
idc
to
do
a
study.
This
will
be
coming
out
very
soon,
so
look
for
it.
B
We
can't
release
it
until
it's
official
and
finalized,
but
there's
actually
some
some
really
eye-popping
numbers
in
there
about
the
benefits
that
accrue
to
organizations
that
actually
leverage
certification
and
set
that
bar
and
expectation
for
their
team.
So
yeah
there's
benefits
to
the
individual.
It
does
give
you
that
stature.
It
does
make
you
more
valuable,
but
it
really
when
you
start
talking
about
it
at
an
org
level,
it
starts
really
really
providing
some
big
benefits
to
the
organization.
C
C
So
when
you
sit
down
and
take
one
of
our
certification
exams,
you're
going
to
be
doing
things-
or
at
least
this
is
our
goal
that
we
strive
for
is
you're
going
to
be
doing
the
sorts
of
things
that
you
would
be
doing
on
your
job
or
the
things
that
you
would
be
expected
to
do
on
your
job,
and
you
know
when
we
evaluate
your
work,
we
don't
look
and
see.
Did
this
person
get
a
specific
answer,
we
look
and
we
see,
does
this
service?
C
Does
this
service
work
as
specified
and
sort
of
the
simple
example
that
I
always
use
is:
let's
say,
for
example,
we
ask
you
to
set
up
a
web
server,
so
you
know
how
am
I
going
to
evaluate
your
web
server?
Well,
I'm
going
to
connect
your
web
server
and
I'm
going
to
see
you
know
hey.
Can
I
connect
to
it
b?
Does
it
serve
content
and
c?
Does
it
serve
the
content
that
I
ask
for
I'm
not
going
to
look
at?
How
did
this
person
set
up
the
web
server?
C
You
know,
did
they
use
apache?
Did
they
use
nginx?
Did
they
use?
You
know
whatever
you
know
unless,
unless
I
specifically
ask
for
that,
I
I
don't
care
what
I
care
about
is
you
know
I
had
a
specification
that
said,
you
know,
make
me
a
web
server
and
have
it
do
this
and
connect.
B
To
port
80.,
yes,
we've
said
for
years
that
actually,
if
you
want
to,
if
you
want
to,
if
you
want
to
write
a
python
script
during
the
exam
to
you
know
answer
the
web
at
you
know,
a
a
well-formed
http
request.
Knock
yourself
out
might
not
be
the
best
use
of
your
time,
but
you
created
you
set
up
a
web
server,
hey,
congratulations
and
so
yeah
it
is.
It
is
very,
very
grounded
in
the
practical.
A
Yes,
absolutely-
and
I
know
this
from
taking-
you
know
the
rhdsa
I've
taken
the
the
ansible
exam
right,
like
it's
very
much
outcome,
driven
in
the
sense
of
right,
like
use
ansible,
to
establish
these
things,
so
they
go
and
look
for
the
presence
of
these
things
and
actually
use
an
ansible
playbook
to
check
your
output.
It's
pretty
it's
pretty
awesome,
so.
C
Actually,
if
I
can
not
give
away
too
much
here
for
the
ansible
exam,
we
actually
blow
away
most
of
your
systems
and
we
use
the
playbooks
that
you
provide
and
we
run
your
playbooks
and.
C
A
One
question
here
about
acs
advanced
cluster
management:
have
we
been
able
to
incorporate
that
into
any
of
our
exams
yet
as
well
as
stack
rocks
they're
asking
too.
B
Yeah
henry
talk
about
that,
but
you
know
I
have
flipped
over
to
you,
know
we're
open
source
and
therefore
we're
kind
of
open
plan
here.
So
we've
got,
we've
got
more
certifications
around
kubernetes
coming
out
this
year.
You
know
last
year
because
we
had
to
pivot
very
hard
in
our
development
efforts
to
make
remote
exams
an
option.
B
We
have
a
bit
of
a
backlog
of
some
things
to
catch
up
and
there's
other
things
that
we
simply
need
to
dig
into,
because
our
customer
base
needs
these
skills
out
in
the
field
and
so
yeah.
These
are
some
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
now.
You
know,
I
think
henry
can
probably
speak
a
little
bit
more
to
some
of
the
specific
things
that
we're
going
to
look
at
like
like
acs
and
so
on.
C
Great,
so
yes,
so
the
acs
we
do
have
a
planned
exam.
So
what
I
actually
have
up
here
on
this
slide
is
is
a
road
map
and
we
are
planning
on
doing
something
both
of
course,
an
exam
around
the
advanced
cluster
manager.
C
The
I
will
caution
that
the
you
know
dates
here
or
whether
not
even
dates
their
quarters
are
estimates,
and-
and
so
don't
don't
build
any
solid
plans
around
these
just
yet,
but
we
are
planning
on
releasing
an
exam
on
the
advanced
cluster
management
product
here,
probably
in
q4,
which
would
be
toward
the
end
of
this
year.
C
We,
you
know,
haven't
really
sat
down
and
and
thought
much
about
stack
rocks,
although
security
in
general
is
is
something
that
is
at
the
forefront
of
our
mind
for
for
both
certification
and
training
a
little
closer
to
a
little
closer
to
now
we
are
working
on
an
advanced
certification
for
cluster
administration.
C
We
are
currently
working
on
a
red
hat,
certified
specialist
in
openshift
automation
and
integration,
which
is
designed
to
be
a
follow-on
certification
for
the
open
shift
administration
certification
I
mentioned
earlier,
and
then
we
are
also
beginning
development
on
a
product
related
to
providing
reliable
storage
for
openshift
clusters,
so
we're
working
on
a
certification
for
the
openshift
data,
something
called
the
openshift
data
foundation
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
we
are
going
to
pivot
our
attention
to
the
cluster
manager
and
we
are
also
starting
to
plan
for
a
certification
on
what
we
think
is
going
to
be
a
very
important
product,
which
is
our
openshift
virtualization
product,
so
also
toward
toward
the
end
of
the
year.
C
We
will
probably
be
working
on
a
red
hat,
certified
specialist
in
openshift
virtualization
certification.
So
you
know
the
the
stack
rocks
thing.
You
know
that
that's
something
to
consider
and-
and
you
know
you
might
even
see
some
of
these-
some
of
these
shift
based
on
you
know,
based
on
what
we
decide
you
know
later
on
later
on
this
summer,
but
right
now
this
is
what
our
roadmap
currently
looks.
Like
wonderful.
A
C
C
So
the
basis
of
the
exam,
as
I
said,
is
we
we
set
you
down
with
an
open
shift.
Instance,
it's
already
been
configured
and
we,
you
know,
give
you
some
existing
applications
and
we
say
make
these
work
with
openshift
and
it's
designed
to
test
specific
features
and
capabilities
of
openshift
that
have
been
put
there
to
actually
make
porting
an
application
and
supporting
an
application
in
openshift
easier.
C
Oh
actually,
I
believe
if
whoever
is
driving
the
slides
can
click
on.
If
you
go
forward,
please
yeah,
if
you
click
on
the
red
out
certified
specialist
in
openshift
application
development,
that's
actually
a
link.
I
don't.
B
I
got
it
though,
so
so
let
me
actually
step
in
with
one
observation
about
about
the
openshift
application.
Development
certification
is
that
it
does
presume,
to
some
extent,
that
you
already
have
an
application
right
and
that
that
application
existed
prior
to
your
bringing
kubernetes
into
the
organization,
and
it's
really
sort
of
how
do
I
take
that.
You
know
I'm
not
going
to
say
legacy
app,
but
legacy
ish
app,
and
how
do
will
you
take
that
existing
app
and
how
do
you
put
it
into
that
that
open
shift
environment?
B
But
what
I
would
add,
though,
is
that
we
actually
are
approaching
it
from
the
cert
program
in
some
other
ways.
In
addition
to
that,
so,
for
example,
we
have
just
launched
a
a
certification,
the
cloud
native
developer,
certification
that
emphasizes
quarkus
right
right
and
quarkus
is
a
java
technology,
and
that
you
know,
is
also
cloud
native
focused,
and
so
you
know
one
stream
is
you've
already
got
stuff.
How
do
you
get
the
stuff
that
you've
already
got
into
the
world
of
kubernetes,
but
we're
also
beginning
to
develop
some
other
things
around?
B
Okay,
so
you're
building
something
from
the
ground
up?
How
does
that
look,
and
that
starts
to
be
where
you
look
at
things
like
corcus
or
you
look
at
things
like
service
mesh.
You
know
another
technology
that
I
think
becomes
very
critical
in
this
kind
of
environment,
and
so
you
know,
there's
sort
of
two
paths
really
that
you
can
take
with
this.
B
So
you
know,
I
I
think
it's
worth
mentioning
there,
because
when
you
think
about
that
that
application
development
cert
it
has
a
particular
focus
and
what
we're
going
to
see
you
know
over
the
you
know
the
next
year
is
that
we're
going
to
also
start
working
down
that
other
path
of
the
cloud
native
path.
That
you're,
starting
with
that
assumption
that
this
is
where
you
started
from.
A
Awesome
so
two
quick
questions
and
they
apologize
for
being
late.
Will
the
security
cert
ex425
be
updated
to
ocp
4x
soon,
I'm
assuming.
B
Well,
so,
to
be
honest,
that
particular
cert,
its
map
is
a
little
bit
up
in
the
air
right
now.
You
know
because
I
think
there
are
some
changes
you
know,
and
there
are
some
things
happening,
that
we're
figuring
out
what
we're
going
to
do
with
that.
So
I
can't.
A
Fair
enough
and
then
obviously
the
next
question,
I
think
it
is
a
yes
but
I'll.
Just
double
check.
Will
this
upcoming
search
count
towards
rhca,
I'm
assuming
so.
B
Oh,
absolutely
absolutely
they
will
and
and
look
you
know
not
not
to
make
any
promises
here.
But
let's
look
at
this
so
right
now
you
know:
we've
got
we've
got
these.
You
know
four
exams
in
certs
right
now
that
are
you
know,
kubernetes
openshift
focused
henry
just
described.
I
don't
know.
Is
it
another
six
five,
six,
four
four.
B
You
know
if
you
do
the
math,
you
can
start
to
see
where
somebody
could
become
a
red
hat,
certified
architect
solely
by
focusing
on
on
on
kubernetes
and
openshift.
In
fact,
they
could
be
a
higher
level
architect,
because
you
know,
if
you
go
above
and
beyond
the
five
cert
requirement,
you
can
become
a
level
two,
a
level
three
and
so
on,
and
so
you
can
now.
You
know
it's
going
to
be
a
possibility
to
be
a
an
rhca
where
it
is
your
exclusive
focus.
A
Nice,
that's
amazing,
yeah,
it's
very
exciting.
Actually
yeah.
Can
we
check
what
the
specialist
and
security
containers
and
openshift
is?
I'm
not
sure
what
you're
asking
there
will
lead.
I
guess
they're
asking
about
what
the
content
is
like
there.
C
C
You
know,
make
running
containers
more
secure
and
what
are
some
of
the
security
features
built
into
openshift
and
and
to
the
question
that
somebody
raised
earlier,
which
is
you
know,
are
we
going
to
be
updating
ex425
and
the
the
answer?
There
is
we're
not
quite
sure
what
direction
we're
going
with
that
particular
certification.
The
exam
itself
is
based
on
openshift
three,
so
you
know
it's
a
little
a
little
behind
the
curve
in
terms
of
open
shift
currency.
A
A
C
Rejiggering
of
some
sort
yeah
the
425-
I
can
imagine
us
doing
a
certification
related
to
security,
because
security
is,
you
know,
not
a
small
topic,
but
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be.
You
know
in
the
form
of
an
update
to
425
or
perhaps
a
a
new
certification
altogether
right.
A
A
B
B
Yeah,
but
you
know
what
the
thing
is:
if
it
did
that,
then
it
would
be
catching
times
that
are
you
know,
you're.
B
So
you
know:
we've
we've
covered
all.
You
know
all
the
material
we
were
going
to
cover.
You
know
it
wasn't
going
to
be
a
deep
dive
into
each
one
of
these.
We
just
wanted
to
give
people
a
a
bit
of
a
flyby
on
on
what
we
have
and-
and
you
know,
a
peek
at
the
things
to
come,
because
you
know
we
it
we
really
are
going
to
have
a
very
comprehensive.
B
You
know
kubernetes
and
open
shift
portfolio.
You
know
here
we
we
already
have
one
that
I
think
is
pretty
comprehensive.
But
then,
when
you
look
at
that
roadmap
that
henry
shared
by
the
end
of
the
year,
it's
going
to
be
that
you
know
there.
You
can
get
really
really
deep
into
this
stuff
with
us
and
certify
across.
You
know
a
lot
of
different
capabilities,
and
so
really
it's
just
a
question
of
you
know.
If
anybody
has
you
know,
questions
comments,
cackling,
you
know
anything
they
they
want
to
bring
to
us.
A
Yeah,
if,
if
you
have
questions
for
the
team
here,
please
feel
free
to
ask
them
that's.
What
we're
here
to
do
is
answer
your
questions
audience.
So
let
us
know
what
you're
thinking
and
we'll
try
and
answer
it.
A
Otherwise,
let
me
ask
this
question:
you
know
covet
19
hit,
you
accelerated
the
remote,
you
know,
testing
phase
or
remote
testing
process
like
how
hard
was
that,
because
I
can
only
imagine
that
that
was
an
enormous
amount
of
work
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
B
Well,
I
think
it
probably
took
a
couple
of
years
off
of
henry's
life
and
maybe
mine
as
well.
Just
to
give
you
a
little
a
little
sense
of
it
is
that
in
the
last
january
you
know
I
had.
I
had
decided
that
this
was
something
that
we
are
really
going
to
have
to
do
just
on
its
own
merits,
and
you
know
speaking
with
henry
and
I
you
know
the
other
developer
manager
on
on
the
certification
team.
B
You
know
we
had
ballpark
that
this
was
probably
going
to
be
be
a
nine
month
effort
to
really
to
really
do
this.
Okay,
and
so
then
you
know
come
the
middle
of
march
was
when
you
know
things
hit
a
fever
pitch
and
red
hat,
basically
locked
down
all
of
its
offices
and
the
world
locked
down
and
and
our
exam
deliveries
sort
of
stopped.
Basically,
because
nobody's
going
to
be
going
in
the
classroom.
B
No
all
the
testing
centers
were
were
closed,
and
so
it
became
much
more
immediate
and
necessary,
and
an
urgent
and
in
nine
months
was
not
really
the
answer.
Anybody
wanted
to
hear
the
thing
that
what
worked
sort
of
perversely
in
our
advantage
was
that,
because
we
weren't
able
to
deliver
any
exams,
we
could
apply
all
of
our
efforts
towards
actually
getting
this
remote
exam
capability
up
off
the
ground,
because
there's
no
point
in
doing
exam
development.
If
we
couldn't
deliver.
B
Right
right,
so
we
sort
of
put
the
pause
on
all
the
exam
development
and
poured
the
coals
to
developing
this
remote
capability.
So
we
were
part
of
the
way
there
in
the
sense
that
we
already
had
some
exams
that
were
running
on
remote
cloud
environments.
You
know
because
the
footprint
print
required,
so
that
gave
us
a
bit
of
a
head
start,
but
we
actually
introduced
a
new
element
that
really
nobody
else
was.
B
Actually,
using
a
live
usb
image
to
have
this
terminal
to
connect
to
those
remote
instances,
and
that
would
give
you
actually
a
much
greater
reliability
than
you
see
in
some
other
exams
that
are
being
done
this
way
and
also
much
better
security.
Just
to
be
really
blunt
about
it,
it's
a
lot
harder
for
somebody
to
check,
notes
or
ping.
Somebody
who
knows
you
know
you
know
a
little
more
than
they
do
if
they're
in
this
very
controlled
environment.
So
you
know
we
had
this.
B
You
know
we
had
a
lot
of
development
to
do
on
a
lot
of
fronts.
To
make
this
work
to,
you
know,
go
beyond
the
testing
center
to
make
everybody
a
testing
center,
but
by
pouring
all
of
our
colds
to
it
we
were
able
to
actually
begin
piloting
our
you
know
our
in
our
mvp.
B
If
you
will
about
two
months
after
we
started
working
on
it
and
we
were
able
to
actually
launch
it
to
the
public
four
months-
and
you
know
henry
deserves
a
lot
of
credit
to
this,
because
our
initial
goal
for
the
for
the
public
delivery,
which
again
was
less
than
half
of
what
we
had
guesstimated
it
would
take.
B
Our
initial
goal
was
to
just
have
the
rhcsa
and
rhce
exams,
but
we
ended
up
actually
having
both
of
them
and
having
the
openshift
admin
and
the
openshift
developer
exams
as
well
when
we
launched
in
august-
and
it
really
just
it-
was
a
consequence
of
everybody
feeling
this
sort
of
existential
need
to
get
this
done
and
just
focusing
on
getting
it
done,
getting
a
lot
of
support
from
other
teams
within
red
hat,
and
you
know
just
doing
everything
we
could
and
and
kind
of
being
agile
and
flexible.
In
the
approach
we
took.
B
You
know
we
approached
this
project
in
some
ways
that
were
very
different
than
some
some
things
we've
we've
done
before,
but
it's
because
we
did
have
this
sort
of
existential
threat
to
our
program.
Yeah.
B
But
even
then
even
then
it
required
a
really
really
exceptional
effort.
You
know
from
henry
and
his
team
greg
cable,
the
other
manager.
You
know
managing
a
development
team
within
the
cert
team
he
and
his
team.
You
know
it
was,
you
know
it
was
all
hands
on
deck
and
we
we
had
a
lot
of
support
again
from
you
know
from
other
parts
of
of
red
hat
as
well,
who
understood
the
need
to
get
behind
this
and
help
us
to
make
it
happen.
I
mean
you,
you
know
it's.
It
touches.
B
B
A
And
the
chat
is
very
much
appreciative
of
your
efforts
right
like
that
waleed
sheree
points
out,
he
says.
Thank
you
for
remote
delivery.
It
is
a
blessing
in
this
region
covet
or
not.
I
used
to
fly
to
do
an
exam
right
like
that's
all
yeah
remote
delivery
is
so
so
so
so
appreciated.
We
know
it
has
taken
time
and
was
not
trivial.
A
Your
trailblazer
here
as
far
as
I'm
concerned-
and
it's
only
going
to
get
better-
I
bet
it
says-
jay,
jd,
andrea,
so
yeah,
so
good
thanks
there.
But
a
couple
questions:
will
red
hat
prepare
a
telco,
specific
openshift
certification.
B
Well,
you
know,
that's
that's
really
kind
of
interesting,
because
we
actually
have
have
tried
to
target
telco
a
bit
on
the
openstack
side
right
and
because
we've
got
interest.
You
know
that
we
have
a
pretty
big
customer
base
in
telco
and
and
we
actually
even
sort
of
designed
a
a
sort
of
telco
focus
program
with
the
emphasis
on
openstack
a
couple
years
ago.
Bm,
and
we
did
that
because
we
were
approached
by
a
telco,
a
major
telco
saying
we
would
like
to
put
people
through
this
program,
and
so
that's
actually.
B
A
very
intriguing
idea
is
that
there
may
be
an
opportunity
for
us
to
do
something
like
that
and
that's
something
I
might
have
to
take
a
closer
look
at
because
it's
certainly
a
very
important
constituency
within
you
know:
red
hat's,
red
hat's
customer
base
and-
and
there
might
be
some
opportunity
there-
absolutely.
A
A
question
about
the
learning
subscriptions
the
exam
vouchers
expire.
Now
I
don't
know
anything
about
like.
A
D
B
Learning
subscription
is,
is
a
one-year
subscription
that
provides
access
to
all
of
our
self-paced
content
via
you
know,
just
sort
of
standard
self-paced
or
video
self-paced.
It
also
provides
access
to
other
things.
Like
you
know,
instructor
office
hours
ask
the
expert,
you
know
recorded
sessions,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
content
and
then,
if
you
get
what's
called
red
hat
learning
subscription
standard
edition,
you
have
you
also
get
five
first
attempts
at
exams
and
two
retakes
okay
of
you
know
someone.
B
You
know
five
one
of
those
exams
that
you
maybe
didn't
have
so
much
luck
with
so
here's.
The
thing
is
that
you
know
the
you
know
it
is
a
subscription,
it's
something
that
it's
understood
to
be
available
to
you
for
a
year
and
the
exams
that
are
provided
within
it
are
expected,
in
normal
circumstances,
to
be
consumed
within
that
time
period.
B
Here's
the
thing,
though,
is
once
again
the
thing
that's
hanging
over
everybody's
head
for
the
last
year
is
covet,
and
so
what
we
have
done
is
we
have
offered
to.
We
have
extended
multiple
times
since
last
year,
the
eligibility
records
for
taking
those
exams.
If
somebody
is
in
their
red
hat,
learning
subscription
has
signed
up
for
is
signed
up
for
an
exam
we
have
extended
when
they
can
take
it
beyond
the
end
of
their
their
their
subscription.
The
subscription.
B
Lot
of
reasons
is
something
we
can't
extend
in
that
way,
but
we
are
trying
to
at
least
you
know,
meet
people's
needs
by
extending
their
exams
and
it
is
extending
it
independently
of
the
subscription
itself
again.
The
mechanics
from
you
know.
You
know
financials
and
legal
and
all
that
become
really
complicated,
and
that's
why
we
can't
do
the
subscription
itself,
but
at
least
we
can
do
the
exams,
and
we
have
been
doing
that
and
we've
done
that.
B
A
Wow,
thank
you
for
doing
that.
Is
there
like
a
built-in
extension
now
just
out
of
curiosity.
A
B
So
the
way
it
works
you
know
just
to
kind
of
get
into
the
weeds
a
bit
with
it
is
that
if
you
have
a
red
hat
learning
subscription
and
you
and
you
register
for
an
exam,
see
that's
the
key,
is
you
got
to
register
for
it?
If
you
don't
register
for
something
there's
nothing
to
extend
right,
but
if
you
register
for
that
exam
within
the
red
hat
learning
subscription,
you
know.
B
B
You
know,
for
you
know,
must
take
by
date
by
90
days,
and
so
you
know
if,
as
long
as
you
register
for
the
exam
and
you
do
it
before
your
subscription
expires,
it
should
get
extended,
and
if
you
do
that
it
doesn't
get
extended,
then
you
know
contact
the
red
hat,
learning,
subscription
team
and
just
bring
that
forward
and
that
you
know
every
once
in
a
while.
B
You
know
things
happen
and,
and
we
might
have
a
miss,
but
that
is
the
intent
is
to
really
extend
that
so
that
people
have
the
opportunity
to
take
these
exams,
even
though
their
subscription
may
have
ended.
B
B
You
know
you
know,
for
example,
right
now,
though
you
know
the
news
out
of
india
is
very
alarming
and
you
know,
taking
an
exam
somewhere
outside
of
your
house,
might
not
be
an
option
and
it
might
be
that
taking
it
inside,
your
house
isn't
an
option.
So
you
know
we
have
to.
We
have
to
take
these
kinds
of
things
into
account
and
we
want
to
err
on
the
side
of
the
customer
at
the
end
of
the
day,
right.
A
Makes
a
little
sense
to
me
right
like
we
are
a
customer-centric
organization.
Well,
lead
also
mentions,
you
know,
lab
hours
for
rhls.
Is
there
any
way
to
like
independently
buy
lab
hours.
B
A
Yeah
and
I
I
think,
that's
a
fair
question
wally,
it
definitely
merits
some
thinking.
So
someone
just
asked
in
chat
and
I
dropped
some
links
for
you
amytec.
How
do
I
get
my
hands
on
free
openshift?
There
are
two
links
there.
We
have
the
dev
sandbox,
which
gives
you
an
open
shift
cluster
for
30
days,
and
then
we
have
code
ready
containers
which
you
can
download
on
one
of
your
own
systems
and
fire
that
up
and
have
a
working
open
shift
environment
there.
A
I
will
say
that
the
system
requirements
for
code
ready
containers
are
much
higher
than
that
of
dev
sandbox,
because
the
dev
sandbox
is
remote
and
you
can
log
into
that
through
developer.redhat.com,
so
feel
free
to
click
either.
One
of
those
links
and
you'll
have
openshift
in
your
hands,
which
kind
of
makes
me
wonder
you
know
is:
is
the
dev
sandbox
something
that
rh?
A
C
So
the
the
big
challenge
I
I
suppose
to
using
something
like
the
developer
sandbox
is
at
present
and
we
try
to
when
you're
taking
an
exam.
We
try
to
keep
you
corralled
in
a
sandbox
of
our
own
making
and-
and
it's
you
know,
centered
around
the
fact
that
we
we
want
people
to
do
their
own
work
and
do
it
unaided
and
you
know
yeah.
It
is
an
exam
and
we're
trying
to
we're
trying
to
tease
out
what
you
know
about
a
given
technology.
C
So
you
know
we
we
have
given
some
thought
to.
You
know
ways
we
might
leverage
existing
resources,
but
you
know
at
present
those
those
are
still
just.
You
know,
discussions
and
thoughts
that
we're
having
internally.
A
C
A
Fair
enough,
all
right,
edward
asked:
may
I
install
a
specific
operator
on
the
dev
sandbox?
Not
yet
there's
some
our
back
issues.
We
have
to
figure
out
on
the
dedicated
side
to
give
everybody
olm
in
an
independent
fashion
inside
their
dev
sandbox,
so
yeah
we're
working
on
that.
So
that
has
been
a
routine
question
that
we've
been
asked
about
the
sandbox
so
yeah.
We
are
up
channeling
that,
as
the
questions
come
in
about
it.
A
Anything
else
y'all
want
to
share
no
more
questions
to
be
asked
or
answered.
I.
A
A
A
B
B
C
A
A
A
Okay,
here's
a
good
one,
so
I
am
studying
for
my
first
open
shift
exam.
How
does
the
practice
exam
compare
contrast
with
the
real
thing?
I'm
assuming
the
practice
is
like
all
the
buttons
and
whistles
and
everything
while.
B
A
Maybe
jd,
can
you
please
clarify?
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
well
yeah,
so,
okay,
so
yeah,
so
I
was
just
what
I
was
trying
to
establish
is
is
if
the
preparation
was
using
red
hat
training
or
whether
it
was
using
some
other
training,
because
you
know
we
don't
call
that
a
practice
exam,
but
what
henry
did
refer
to
as
sort
of
the
comprehensive
lab.
That's
at
the
end,
the
best
way
to
prepare,
for
you
know
for
red
hat
certification,
exams.
B
Guess
what
is
red
hat
training?
You
know
we
publish
our
exam
objectives
online.
You
know
anybody
can
take
the
exams.
You
don't
have
to
take
our
training,
but
you
know
our
team
works
with
the
team
that
develops
the
courses
very
closely
and
they
have
the
goal
of
covering
every
exam
objective
with
hands-on
labs.
B
B
More
and
do
something
with
that
topic
and
the
idea
at
the
end
is
to
really
sort
of
you
know,
bring
all
of
that
together
and-
and
you
know,
and
and
kind
of
consolidate
it
and
have
this
kind
of
comprehensive
exercise
which
will
be
very
good
preparation
for
what
you
would
encounter
when
you
go
into
the
when
you
go
into
the
into
the
exam.
B
It
would
be
what
I
would
suggest
to
anybody,
even
if
there's
somebody
who
has
a
fair
amount
of
kubernetes
and
open
shift
experience,
because
there's
all
you
know
when
you're
in
your
working
life,
there's
always
things
that
you
don't
use
in
your
particular
implementation
of
a
technology
and
hence
there's
always
some
gaps
in
your
own
experience.
Knowledge,
even
though
you
may
be
miles
deep
in
some
other
things,
and
so
I
would
recommend
to
anybody.
A
Us
yeah,
no,
I
mean
I
remember
it
was
like
2012..
I
remember
right
before
my
exam
for
rhcsa,
I
sat
down
in
a
coffee
shop
and
I
just
fired
up
a
bunch
of
vms
and
went
through
that
review
and
just
made
sure
I
could
check
all
the
boxes
in
that
list
and
once
I
was
happy,
I
left
the
coffee
shop
the
next
day.
I
I
think
I
missed
one
question
on
the
exam,
so
it
is
very
open
in
the
way
that
we
tell
people
we
grade
things.
B
Yeah
yeah,
I
mean
I
I
that
that's
the
thing
is
that
we
actually
provide
a
whole
lot
of
information
about.
What's
there,
nobody
should
feel
taken
by
surprise.
You
know,
occasionally
people
do,
but
what
it
really
means
is
that
maybe
they
didn't
you
know
they
didn't
dig.
B
As
he
did
that
day
in
the
coffee
shop
and
they
didn't
evaluate
their
readiness
honestly,
you
know
it's
and
that's
a
difficult
thing
to
do
sometimes
is
to
be
able
to
say.
Okay.
Do
I
really
know
how
to
do
this,
and
I
would
say
the
key
is
you
know
talking
about?
You
know
how
to
use
the
training
to
its
utmost
is
when
you
are.
You
know
when
you
are
getting
to
the
end
of
that
course
see.
If
you
can
do
these
lab
activities
without
checking
the
solution
without
referring
to
the
guidance,
that's
provided
about
step.
B
B
B
C
A
Absolutely
yeah
awesome.
Well,
we
are
out
of
time.
I
greatly
appreciate
randy
and
henry
being
on
here
regarding
one
last
question
regarding
do280:
is
it
done
in
a
virtual
environment,
pretty
much
everything
is
now
right.
C
Our
all
of
our
exams
are
done
in
a
virtual
environment,
but
you
know
from
the
perspective
of
the
you
know:
exam
candidate,
you
don't
really
you
don't
really
notice
that
yeah,
it's
it's
all
done
using
dms
yeah
awesome.
A
Well,
thank
you,
everybody
for
the
questions.
If
you
have
not
filled
out
the
form
to
get
your
free,
openshift
t-shirt,
I
will
drop
the
link
again
and
thank
you
randy.
Thank
you
henry
for
coming
on.
I
greatly
appreciate
your
time
today
and
thank.