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From YouTube: OpenShift Commons London AMA Panel: Red Hat Upstream Project Leads, Engineers and Product Managers
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OpenShift Commons London 2020 AMA Panel: Red Hat Upstream Project Leads, Engineers and Product Managers
The OpenShift Commons Gathering was held on Jan 29th, 2020 in London, UK, and featured guest speakers from local customers and users. The OpenShift Commons Gatherings brought together 300+ experts from all over the world to discuss container technologies, best practices for cloud native application developers and the open source software projects that underpin the OpenShift/Kubernetes ecosystem.
https://commons.openshift.org/gatherings/London_2020.html
A
A
I
know:
there's
not
308
of
you
here
right
now,
but
that
means
there's
more
beer
and
chips
upstairs
later
for
us
now,
I'm
going
to
ask
the
Red
Hatters
who've
been
on
stage
and
some
of
the
support
folks
to
come
up
and
join
us
now,
so
that
we
can
have
a
little
bit
of
a
Q&A
session
before
we
go
off
and
have
a
beer
and
you
you
really
drill
them
down
now's.
Is
he
in
the
room?
A
B
A
A
All
right
and
some
of
you
can
sit
down
you're,
allowing
no
nobody
wants.
Nobody
wants
to
sit
down.
I
was
looking
at
those
chairs
going,
I
need
new
chairs
for
my
kitchen
and
my
living
room
and
I'm,
like,
though
I
really
like
those
chairs,
they
may
be
coming
home.
I
can't
get
that
in
my
suitcase.
So
alright
go
ahead
and
ask
ask
your
first
question
here:.
C
F
G
G
Think
the
conversations
that
a
lot
of
us
have
been
having
across
groups
right
I
mean
were
the
same
company
now,
but
we're
still
independent
have
been
very
positive
right.
We're
bringing
each
other
in
to
projects
and
learning
from
each
other
and
I
think
we're
all
getting
better
for
it.
Yeah
I
would
say,
but.
G
A
Yeah
no
I'm
gonna,
add
ad
lib
a
little
bit
on
that
too,
because
one
of
the
interesting
things
I
don't
know.
If
you
remember
the
very
beginning
of
the
day,
because
that
was
a
long
time
ago,
there
was
that
jellyfish
diagram
where
I
was
showing
the
intersection
of
the
IBM
and
the
Red
Hatters
who
are
working
on
different
open-source
projects
and
the
collaborations.
What
if
there
isn't
always
a
lot
of
overlap
to,
but
what
it's
done
is.
A
It
has
extended
our
reach
into
a
lot
of
different
projects
that
so
that
we
are
now
connected
to
these
other
projects
and
we
have
resources
to
reach
out
and
tap
to
find
out
about
new
features
and
functions
and
help
us
integrate
in
there.
So
from
an
open
source
perspective,
it's
really
opened
up
a
lot
of
doors
for
us
all,
so
I,
you
know,
I
think
the
Tecton
worked
to
we've
seen
a
lot
of
people
coming
together
from
IBM
and
Red
Hat
and
working
on
that.
So
it's
there's
lots
of
really
great
examples.
A
Even
in
the
chat
pass.
How
many
months
has
been
six
months,
I'm
like
I,
can't
even
it
seems
like
forever?
Maybe
not,
but
it's
really
expanded
our
universe
in
terms
of
how
we
can
support
each
other
in
the
open-source
community,
as
well
as
extended
the
resources
that
are
available
for
us
to
help
you
implement
and
deploy
OpenShift
and
OpenStack,
and
all
of
the
other
projects
that
we
have.
It's
really
I
think
the
ramp
up
training.
Everybody
on
all
of
our
technologies
has
been
interesting.
G
A
We've
been
given
additional
revenue
to
support
hosting
events
like
this,
like
the
IBM
Z
folks,
who
have
a
wonderful
reference
architecture,
and
you
should
go
talk
to
them
about
Linux
one
and
all
the
great
things
they're
upstairs.
But
it's
also
you
know
it's
given
us
I
think
it's
given
us
a
lot
more
resources
to
do
more
innovation
and
grab
more
resources
from
different
places.
The
whole
multi
cloud
project
group
that's
come
on
board,
it's
it's
pretty
amazing
and
without
the
acquisition
we
wouldn't
see
something
like
that
happen.
H
I
B
Think
there's
lots
of
opportunities
there
we're
still
kind
of
fluffing
out
some
of
the
details.
To
be
honest,
I
guess
one
of
the
areas
you
kind
of
got
a
flash
of
it
this
morning
that
I
didn't
go
into
that
kind
of
goes
to
your
questions.
We're
doing
some
work
with
net
on
the
networking
site.
Can
you
join
these
clouds
together
and
when
we
looked
at
it,
the
initial
thought
was
well.
You've
got
multiple
different
clusters:
let's
just
stick
a
VPN
in
there
and
connect
them
together
and
you
done
and
everything's
nice
and
good.
B
But
then
you
know
when
we
took
a
second
look
at
it.
We
realized,
you
know
we're
dependent
on
services
in
there.
We
want
to
do
that
and
you
and
then
you
get
well
actually
I'm
going
to
set
up
some
network
policies.
So
what
do
we?
What
do
I
do
about
how
to
propagate
them?
How
do
I
handle
them?
So
you
know
what
we're
looking
at
I.
B
Don't
if
I
said
this
already
sorry
I'm
blanking
on
it
we're
using
the
sub
Meyer
project
and
part
of
are
things
called
Late
Late
house
and
Coast
Guard
and
Coast
Guard
is
about
this
spreading
this
policy
around
so
that
together
with
them,
you
know
the
integration
kind
of
talked
about
IBM
MCM,
and
that
has
policies,
and
you
can
look
at
whether
you're
in
in
policy
you're,
not
on
your
clusters,
so
that
you
know
this
kind
of
opportunities
right
across
the
stack
to
do
that.
So,
yes,
I
think
it's
core
to
the
answer.
B
J
Similar
sort
of
vein
around
the
the
multi
cloud
thing
over
here
I
was
really
taken
by
the
the
I'm
chef
hive
operator
right
now,
I'm
guessing
that
is
single
cloud
yeah.
But
with
with
the
capability
to
have
clusters
across
multiple
and
have
a
true
hybrid,
do
you
think
it
may
go
that
way
so
that
you
can
have
a
management
hive
that
can
actually
stand
up
in
two
different
cloud
infrastructure?
So
you
could
have
some
on
Prem
some
public.
J
B
So
yeah
dedicated
team
shipping
as
well
so
one
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
I
think
we
had
it
on
the
roadmap.
Is
integration
with
MCM,
so
I
feel
like
a
sales
rep
firm.
Sorry
about
that,
but
one
of
the
things
that
you'll
see
on
the
demos
that
you
do
today
is
they'll,
have
their
environment
running
and
then
looking
across
different
cloud
providers
with
Red
Hat
OpenShift
in
there.
B
Let
me
ask
you
or
we
we
see
that
as
a
major
use
case
right,
we're
position
ourselves
as
being
Clyde
agnostic
go
with
any
of
the
providers,
go
with
T
go
with
on
Prime,
and
one
is
that
you
know
I'm,
seeing
some
nodding
heads
that
that's
definitely
we
see
ourselves
sittin.
So
absolutely
we
will
be
doing
tooling
around
our
I.
K
Hi
so
like
a
bunch
of
folk,
we
we
use
calico,
we
need
to
because
we
layer,
three
and
I
think
calico
stops
us
from
using
your
sto
your
service,
my
version
and
then
I
was
hearing
today
that
you've
built
your
K
native
solution
on
your
service
mesh
and
then
tacked
on
on
top
of
K
night
I'm.
A
little
bit
worried
that
you're
building
links
within
links
and
that
we
might
be
excluded
from
some
of
the
capability
within
was
an
objector.
L
So
I'm,
yes,
I,
definitely
did
mention
that
for
serverless
it
will
install
a
service
mesh
and
service
mesh.
Consists
of
you
know
three
additional
projects:
sto
Jager
and
key
ollie.
So
there
are
some
dependency.
Is
there
pipeline's
just
to
clarify
pipelines
is
built
on
top
of
Tek
time,
but
Tecton
doesn't
have
any
of
those
other
dependencies
on
any
of
those
other
products.
Projects.
Excuse
me
I,
guess
I'm,
not
sure,
I'm.
Sorry,
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
question
was
exactly
well.
K
L
B
M
I
mean
calico
I
worked
at
docker,
so
I
did
a
lot
of
integration
with
calico
and
docker
right.
So
there's
nothing
that
prevents
you
to
work
at
calico.
What
sort
of
containers
and
can
your
networking
right
that
uses
ovn
no
inheritance
of
open,
V
switch
right,
so
I,
don't
know
the
exact
answer
but,
like
I,
think
there's
a
close
answer
there
of
you
know
there
shouldn't
be
anything
completely
inconsistent
of
your
ability.
M
N
Hi
Anna
I've
got
a
question
really
more
about
the
futures
and
specifically
around
edge
computing
you're,
seeing
the
major
hyper
scale
providers
showing
their
hand
around
their
strategy.
You've
seen
eight
abusive
editors
Waveland,
for
example,
and
I'll
post
the
appium
frame
and
look
local
zones
etc,
and
also
to
move
around
in
terms
of
supporting
low
latency
next-generation
services
for
want
of
a
better
term
moving
the
network
edge
out
into
the
5g
network
and
what
is
Red
Hat's
position
around
each
edge
computing
and
integration
with
with
the
5g
networks,
etc.
A
B
Give
you
another
tap
dance
on
so
so
then
I
guess
I
I
tried
to
kind
of
hint
at
this
this
morning,
so
telco
and
edge
and
5g
we've
seen
that
as
a
major
opportunity
for
us,
we've
ramped
up
significantly
bringing
lots
of
people
in
to
work
on
it.
So
his
areas
that
were
investigating
it's
still
kind
of
being
fleshed
out.
B
We
took
a
project
that
was
more
generic
and
I'm,
desperately
trying
to
think
of
the
codename
for
it
right
now
in
a
comment
and
Blanken
and
we've
essentially
repurposed
them
to
look
at
the
use
cases
that
you're
talking
about
you'll,
probably
see
some
more
about
this
in
the
next
few
months.
As
we
flesh
out
what
the
projects
doing,
I
can
be
candid
in
the
room.
What
we're
doing
right
now
is:
we've
actually
picked
a
partner
stroke
vendor
store
customer
that
we're
working
with
on
on
how
to
kind
of
go
and
deliver
something
right
now.
B
Some
of
my
colleagues
here
went
through
the
pain
we
believe
in
art.
We
do
plan
and
we
did
for
for
planning
a
while
ago,
and
we
just
had
to
do
a
little
mini
replan
because
of
this
telco
opportunity,
because
there
was
quite
a
lot
of
features
just
had
to
drop
off
the
roadmap
because
we
needed
to
go
and
execute
on
that
side.
So
I
can't
give
you
specifics
right
now.
I
can
maybe
get
ye.
B
If
you
really
want
one
announce,
I
can
get
you
in
contact
with
someone
who
can
but
there'll
be
more
coming
on
that
soon.
But
yes,
it's
definitely.
As
I
said
it's
one
of
our
four
strategic
areas
of
investment,
one
of
our
four
big
bets
where
we
just
see
massive
opportunity-
and
it
really
did-
can
you
know
I,
don't
know
I'm,
not
the
brightest
of
people,
so
I,
don't
know,
we'll
see
the
train
coming
down
the
track
to
hit
me
in
the
face,
but
that
that
really
kind
of
snuck
up
on
us.
E
So
what
you
saw
with
us
previously
with
OpenStack
was
taking
a
great
hire
solution
and
making
it
fit
for
purpose
the
telcos.
So
a
lot
of
work
went
into
OpenStack
and
in
the
past,
is
to
make
it
more
robust,
better
for
telco
providers.
So
that's
the
goal
now
for
four
five
G
and
open
shift
right
to
look
at
what
are
the
feature
gaps.
We
have
like
a
telco
provider
house
and
extreme
requirements
more
so
than
you
know,
even
sand.
The
banks
that
we
see
here
now.
E
So
that's
the
focus
to
the
point
about
the
for,
for
planning
and
beyond
to
fill
those
gaps
in
terms
of
kind
of
in
the
broader
vision.
I
mean
watch
this
space
and
we'll
talk
more
about
that
in
the
future.
But
we're
gonna
make
this
enterprise
grade
for
telcos
and
carriers,
as
the
same
will
be
done
for
Linux
in
the
past
and
then
OpenStack
and.
A
I'll
put
in
a
pitch,
for
we
do
have
a
telco
edge
cig.
If
so,
if
you
go
to
open
ship,
Commons
open
ship
dialogue,
you
can
sign
up
and
we
do.
We
do
keep
everybody
informed
and
we
are
going
to
host
an
edge
telco
OpenShift
Colin's
gathering
in
2020
I
hoping
it's
in
Vancouver,
alongside
of
an
openstack
foundation.
A
Event
are
in
mid-june,
so,
as
he
said,
watch
this
space
because
we'll
bring
all
the
product
managers
from
both
the
edge
in
the
telco
initiatives,
as
well
as
a
number
of
the
customers
that
were
and
partners
that
were
working
with
to
talk
about
just
this
and
we
have
a
whole
track.
That's
all
that
has
a
number
of
talks
at
Red,
Hat
Summit,
we're
hosting
a
gathering
there
as
well
in
when
is
Red
Hat
summit.
It's
in
San,
Francisco,
end
of
May.
A
Thank
you
very
much
end
of
April,
okay
and
then
dev
mais,
Tel
Aviv
will
keep
him
straight.
But
yes,
so
there's
a
lot
of
working
on
there's
a
few
open
chef,
Commons
briefings.
China
Mobile
did
a
wonderful
one
that
went
way
over
my
head,
but
talking
about
the
use
case
and
a
lot
of
that,
and
that's
really
again
where
you
guys
coming
on
stage
talking
about
your
use
cases,
help
inform
our
roadmaps
and
stuff
and
have
gotten
us.
You
know
into
the
space
and
into
the
conversation.
So
it's
quite
helpful.
E
O
Thank
You
Curran
we're
just
saying
a
brilliant
presentation
from
HP
on
elf
and
we
all
know
that
the
Chinese
have
got
major
issues
in
this
space
and
they're
wonderful,
connected
5g
networks.
Do
you
think
next
time
we
see
a
major
virus
like
that
you'll
be
ready
to
assist
and
get
people
down
to
the
handset
guidance
in
real
time.
C
O
A
It's
always
amazing
to
me
and
I
think
to
all
of
us
what
people
are
actually
doing
on
top
of
OpenShift
and
on
top
of
the
the
other
op
projects-
and
you
know
we
just
hope,
like
with
our
projects
like
open
data
hub
and
some
of
the
great
things
are
going
on
to
really
enable
that
work
and
yeah.
It's
it's.
What
inspires
us
to
keep
going?
L
A
G
P
You
no
I
think.
First
of
all,
the
this
event
is
only
as
good
as
the
engagement
that
we
get
from
the
community
and
so
far
these
have
been
amazing,
which
is
why
we've
had
more
and
more
events
around
the
world
and
why
they
get
richer
and
richer
and
content.
But
we
are
coming
up
with
amia
cube
con
and
with
the
Red
Hat
summit
and
others.
P
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
request
if
you
have,
if
we
have
is
vs
in
the
crowd
that
are
looking
to
certify
we're
looking
to
make
a
big
push
at
Red,
Hat
summit
so
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
us,
so
that
we
can
help
you
with
that
and
then,
if
you're,
a
customer
using
operators.
We'd
like
to
tell
this
that
story
as
well.
So
we
have
a
number
of
partners,
they've
certified
their
operators.
We'd
like
to
see
you
know
a
customer
who
is
using
them.
P
A
Right
and
I'm
gonna
do
a
few
more
shameless
plugs
here
too,
so
I'm
really
thrilled
to
have
John
Willis
and
having
kicked
off
the
DevOps,
the
dev
SEC,
ops,
cig,
and
if
you
it's
really
going
to
be
a
lot
of
fun
and
we're
going
to
learn
a
lot
and
there's
a
lot
of
great
folks.
The
automated
governance
comes
up
really
cool
stuff.
So
if
you
go
to
Commons,
openshift
org
and
you
scale
about
or
you
slide
down
about
halfway
through
you'll
see
a
section
called
interests.
A
If
there's
an
interest
group
there,
that's
or
something
that's
missing
there
that
you
think
we
should
be
talking
about.
Let
me
know
because
I'll
make
you
chair
of
that
working
group
or
that
sig
and
I'll
find
a
counterpart
for
you
too.
So
I'm
we're
really
interested
in
teasing
out
these
stories
getting
more
feedback
and
making
sure
that
we're
you
know
the
best
fit
for
your
workloads.
So
that's
really
there's
another
question
down
here
in
the
middle
because
now
is
going
to
get
two
beers.
I
Q
Again,
it's
not
I'm,
not
an
expert
on
that
just
side:
knowledge,
K
native
supposed
to
be
the
debt
solution.
It's
supposed
to
provide
you,
the
agnostic
that
you
get
from
other
services
within
open
shift
so
they're.
Currently,
you
can
go
online
to
look
for
K
native.
They
have
benchmarks
there.
They
have
their
plans
there
and
there
are
the
traditional
information
to
answer
at
that
point.
B
B
Didn't
get
right
into
at
lunchtime
with
answers,
so
the
person
that
the
persons
that
asked
power
support
for
OpenShift
is
April
major
time
frame
that
someone
was
asking
about
Red
Hat,
Enterprise
virtualization
is
a
provider
that
you
can
install
on
and
that's
in
the
full
full
release.
Both
automated
install
and
user
provided
infrastructure.
Hopefully
they're
still
here.
It's.