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The OKD Working Group's purpose is to discuss, give guidance to, and enable collaboration on current development efforts for OKD, Kubernetes, and related CNCF projects. The OKD Working Group includes the discussion of shared community goals for OKD 4 and beyond. Additionally, the Working Group produces supporting materials and best practices for end-users and provides guidance and coordination for CNCF projects working within the SIG's scope.
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A
And
let's
do
a
quick
review
of
current
projects
of
removing
the
community
brian.
B
B
We've
agreed
we're
gonna
drop
membership
in
terms
of
we
don't
really
have
an
active
membership
role
at
the
minute
for
each
of
the
things
it's
whoever
turns
up
and
wants
to
participate.
Does,
however,
we
do
need
to
list
the
officials,
and
I
think
there
is
the.
How
do
we
get
the
officials
and
does
every
working
group
have
a
set
of
officials
question
but
other
than
those
two?
B
The
community
repo
can
go
the
two
documents
in
terms
of
code
of
conduct
and
and
the
charter,
that's
in
the
okidi
site
now,
so
that
repo
could
effectively
go
now.
You
need.
A
Let's
archive
it
so
diane
you
have
access
on
that.
So
if
you
could
archive
it,
when
you
get
the
the
signal
that
would
be
awesome.
B
A
I
was
going
to
send
something
out
in
regards
to
that
to
the
working
group,
but
I
still
don't
have
access
to
social
media
to
be
able
to
promote
the
fact
that
that
we're
that
members
will
be
able
to
vote.
I
can
post
something
on
the
mailing
list.
We
also
want
to
post
something
on
social
media.
I
don't
have
access
to
the
twitter
yet
and
diane
you
were
gone,
but
the
gist
is.
What
we
want
to
do
is
have
an
official
election
of
the
or
not
election
per
se,
but
yeah.
A
A
C
Cool,
so
I
apologize,
I
thought
I
had
already
given
you
the
twitter
username
password.
I
guess
that
didn't
happen.
So
just
I
thought
that
happened
months
like
a
month
ago,
which
is
about
how
long
it's
been
since
I've
been
on.
One
of
these
calls
so.
C
Boy
that
would
be
asking
a
lot.
Let
me
just
see
if
I
can
well.
A
We'll
deal
with
it
we'll
deal
with
it
async,
but
I'm
trying
to
okay
yeah,
all
right
so
yeah.
So
at
this
point,
then
we
can
move
forward
just
send
something
out
that
says
these
folks
are
looking
to
be
chairs
of
their
respective
working
groups
and
we
could
do
a
binding,
non-binding
boat
kind
of
like
the
kubernetes
or
the
cncf
toc
does
so.
Basically
you
know
people
can
voice
their
opinion,
even
if
they're,
not
chairs
of
the
main
group
right.
A
A
But
the
technical
technical
documentation.
How
is
that
coming
along
brian
with
your
fork,.
B
So
I'm
still
working
on
it.
I
haven't
actually
done
much.
Sorry,
john,
I
haven't
accepted
your
pull
request
and
that's
just
me
not
not
having
time
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
I'm
trying
to
create
a
work
example
in
the
documentation
and
what
I'm
looking
to
do
is
take
the
console,
module
and
just
change
the
documentation
link
from
docs.okd.io
to
okd.io.
B
So
we've
got
something:
that's
very
visible.
It's
obvious
whether
the
changes
in
or
not,
and
I'm
going
to
do
the
two
routes,
updating
existing
cluster
and
create
a
new
installer
which
are
the
two
routes
to
actually
getting
a
custom
built
module
live.
B
B
If
it's
worked
or
not,
because
if
you
hit
the
link
and
you
get
to
the
docs,
it
hasn't
worked.
If
you
get
to
okidi
to
io,
it
had
worked,
I
haven't
got
it
working
yet,
that's
mainly
because
it
was.
B
Yeah,
I
agree
and
many
because
it
was
easter
and
I
had
other
things
over
the
last
weekend,
so
yeah
I'll
work
on
trying
to
get
that
done
when
I
get
it
done
I'll
push
it
all
up
and
pull
the
take,
the
pull
request
in
and
and
hopefully
we
can
then
push
that
onto
okd
io
as
the
start
of
the
technical
documentation
on
the
main
site.
B
D
Yeah,
that's
a
starting
point.
I
mean
that
way.
You
have
something
to
show,
and
then
you
have
something
to
build
on
so
then
we
can
throw
other
examples.
The
the
installer
itself
is
interesting
to
to
play
with
that.
It
just
takes
a
long
time
to
build.
D
B
I'm
also
interested
in,
I
think
an
interesting
one
might
be
is
the
catalogues,
because
when
we
get
the
okd
catalogue,
which
I'm
hoping
we're
going
to
see
movement
on
now,
I
think
that'll
be
another
interesting
one.
And
how
do
I
add
my
own
custom
operator
into
a
catalogue
which
I
think
then
comes
on
to
what
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
a
little
bit
later
on
seth,
because
I
don't
believe,
there's
an
easy
way
to
install
seth
to
actually
test
it
at
the
but
so
yeah.
B
And
then,
as
we
talked
about
in
the
last
meeting,
and
I
need
to
get
on
and
start
collecting,
debugging
testing
things
best
practices,
tips
tricks,
hints
voodoo
magic,
whatever
works
to
actually
get
a
cluster
up
and
running
once
it's
not
running.
C
B
B
B
C
I
I
just
reached
out
to
christian:
glombak,
has
admin
privs
and
he
can
archive
it.
A
Hey
and
working
group
repo-
that's
going
to
wait
until
things
are
moved,
so
I
have
a
question
for
the
group
if,
if
we
look
at
the
website
moving
on
to
an
item
that
I
have,
if
we
look
at
the
website,
if
you
look
at
the
working
group
menu,
it's
like
working
groups,
it's
like
okd
working
groups,
okay
day
working
group.
A
What
I
would
like
to
do
is
you'll
notice.
I
added
minutes
in
there
and
actually
I
get.
I
need
to
fix
the
way
I
did
it,
but
I've
started
to
add
the
minutes
in
there
and
I'm
just
setting
up
automation
for
because,
although
we
can
automate
from
hackmd
and
individual
file
going
over,
we
still
need
to
automate
the
updating
of
the
index
right
so
that
people
would
have
an
index.
A
B
A
Okay,
anyone
else
have
thoughts
on
that
again.
This
is,
if
you
go
to
the
website
okadi.io,
it's
one,
two,
three,
five,
six,
seven
items
down
on
the
left
side
there
so
just
changing
that
to
be
okay,
working
group
and
then
about
charter
minutes
and
then
subgroups
and
then
subgroups
would
have
the
subgroups
there.
B
A
Or
it
could
we
could
even
it
seems,
kind
of
redundant
to
call
it
okd
working
group.
We
could
just
call
it
working
group,
the
top
menu
item,
because
I
mean
what
other
working
group
would
it
be
that
we
would
be
hosting
pages.
When
I
looked
at,
I
thought
it's
a
little
eye.
Weird
right
does
that
make
sense.
Brian.
B
Yeah
I
mean
in
in
the
thing
I
called
it
the
primary
working
group,
because
I
don't
think
we've
got
a
name
for
like
the
main
one
I
mean
we
call
it
the
main
or
the
primary
or
the
all
the
subgroups
have
a
name,
but
we
just
call
the
working
group
off
right.
I
don't
know
whether
we
need
a
something
to
signify.
It's
the
the
main
or
the
primary
one
or.
B
C
I
apologize
I
was
trying
to
close
that
archive
archive
that
thing,
so
I
missed
that
conversation.
A
Now
so
the
idea
is,
we
always
have
the
top
level
sort
of
working
group
and
then
the
subgroups.
What
would
we
call
the
top-level
working
group
as
a
reference?
What
what?
What
would
we,
we
always
say,
the
main
group
in
conversation,
but
if
we're
gonna.
C
Talk
about,
I
always,
I
always
think
of
it
as
the
working
group
and
everything
else
as
sub
working
groups
sub
working
group.
Okay.
So
that's
I'm
that's
how
I've
always
referred
to
it
and
I've
seen
other
things
done.
We
don't
like
have
a
technical
oversight
committee
like
the
cncf
has
or
the
kubernetes
things
we're
not
that
complex,
yet
so
yeah.
I
would
predicted.
F
A
E
A
A
Okay,
and-
and
is
that
I
mean-
and
you
can
make
the
change
too
brian
if
you
want,
while
you're
in
there
in
terms
of
that
menu,
but
I
think
that
that
will
clarify
things
a
lot
in
minutes.
I
accidentally
did
redundantly
it's
actually
like
slash
minute,
slash
minutes.
I
need
to
fix
that.
I
was
doing
this
with
a
baby
in
arms,
so
I
made
some
mistakes.
B
Currently,
when
there's
any
change,
it
does
a
full
spell
check
and
it
also
does
a
link
checker
if
the
site
is
down
like
when
gate
was
having
problems,
it
blocks
the
publish
right.
So
that's
just
a
gotcha
to
be
aware
of.
If
you
look
at
the
actions,
if
there's
a
failed
action
and
you
we
may
encounter
that
with
automation,
that
we,
if
you
find
some
minutes,
don't
get
published,
yeah
just
be
aware
that
that
we.
A
Should
put
this
in
little
like
the
little
notes
section
of
the
how
to
I
think,
there's
like
the
how
to
contribute
page
that
you
set
up
or
or
was
it
there
is,
but
I'm.
A
All
right,
let's
see
next
on
the
agenda,
is
okay,
so
here's
things
that
we
need
to
communicate
out
right
so
talking
to
christian
earlier
today,
we
can't
release
any
4.9
since
4.10
was
out.
Okd
has
always
followed
this
pattern
of
when
that
shift
gets
made
and
all
of
the
infrastructure
for
testing
gets
when
it
gets
put
in
place
as
the
main
release.
No
more
previous
releases
are
done.
Previous
minor
versions
are
done,
so
a
4.9
release
is
not
going
to
be
forthcoming
to
deal
with
that
lcd
issue,
the
lcd.
A
What
is
it
five
point?
Zero
point,
one
to
like
pipe
5.0.5.
I
think
it
is
so
basically
fcd
under
high
load
can
drop
data
from
some
of
the
members.
A
A
There
won't
be
any
future
releases
for
it
and
in
the
same
breath
we
have
to
point
out
that
4.10
is
currently
blocked
by
that
bug
there,
that
I've
linked
to
the
bugzilla,
for
so
christian
actually
tried
to
do
a
release
this
weekend
but
ran
into
a
4.10
release
this
weekend,
but
ran
into
that
ovs
issue.
A
A
We
haven't
really
communicated
anything
out
about
how
our
release
schedule
has
changed,
and
I
think
we
should
do
that
right
now
in
the
near
future,
because
right
now
there
hasn't
been
a
release
for
almost
a
month
and
people
don't
know
that
we're
sort
of
changing
temporarily
or
whatever
changing
hands.
A
A
There's
a
link
to
the
to
the
bug,
but
it's
basically
a
an
issue
of
port
binding
and
so
we'll
heat
chef
put
in
a
bug
on
this.
And
apparently
this
is.
D
D
D
A
A
C
C
So
if
one
or
both
of
you,
brian
or
jamie,
want
to
write
something
up,
we
could
put
it
there
on
the
blog
and
then
I
could
amplify
it
through
the
openshift
and
the
openshift
commons
twitter
handles
and
the
and
you
could
do
the
okd.io
one
as
well,
and
we
could
get
the
word
out
that
way.
If
you
wanted
to
do
a
to
finally
use
that
blog
for
something
I
think
that
might
be
a.
This
might
be
an
appropriate
time
to
do
so.
F
Yeah,
no,
I
think
it's
not
to
my
mind.
The
issue
is
not
that
it's
been
a
long
time
between
upgrades,
but
basically
we
don't
have
any
4.10
upgrades
that
upgrade
from
anything.
F
If
you
look
at
the
371
and
the
reason
that
I
didn't
try
it
out
is
because
the
upgrades
from
everything
fail
fairly
spectacularly
and
consistently
and
of
course,
it
also
doesn't
upgrade
to
anything.
So
it
seems
like
not
something
that
any
sane
person
would
want
to
try.
That's,
certainly
not
in
production
and.
F
Says:
yeah:
yeah?
Okay,
you
know
if
you
had
good
results,
including
seth
ceph,
because
well.
F
One
right
because
I'm
running
that
not
for
the
registry
like
you
are
but
for
provisioning,
auto
provisioning
storage,
I'm
running
seth,
and
so
that
would
be
a
blocker
for
me
for
my
production,
one.
F
My
myself
is
is
on
the
like:
it's
running
on
the
cluster
itself,
right.
A
A
C
I
just
have
a
question
for
john
fortin.
You
did
upgrade
to
or
you
moved
to
410
did
I
hear
you
say
that.
C
C
A
A
D
C
C
So
my
nephew's
here
and
he's
probably
gaming
downstairs
so
the
what
I
would
suggest
is
that
maybe
we
we
write
a
blog
post
talking
about
the
thing
and
then
maybe
have
john
fortin.
If
you
can
add
a
few
words
about
your
upgrade
process,
and
you
know
like
that,
yeah.
C
Yeah
maybe
say
that
too
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
never
against
saying
the
truth.
That
is,
you
know
the
one
you
know
the
war
in
the
general
surgeon's
warning
section
two
is
like
yeah.
I
did
this.
It
went
smooth
except
now
that
I'm
here
this
is
what
I
would
you
know,
warn
people
about,
so
you
know
that's
and
I
you
know,
and
that
I
think
would
be
if
we
can
come
up
with
a
blog
post.
C
You
know
over
the
next
week,
or
so
I'd
be
thrilled
to
to
have
and
as
always
honesty
is
the
right
way
to
go
with
this.
You
know
it
gets
you
much
further
than
than
trying
to
make
it
look
like
an
awesome.
Everything
went
smashingly
and
now
I'm
happy
I'm
here
party,
so
yeah,
so
maybe
that
that
would
be
something
we
could
collect
with,
even
if
we
did
it
in
hack,
md
as
a
a
blog
post
collaboration
or
something.
A
Okay,
so
should
we
break
these
up
into
a
separate
document
for
upgrading
to
410
and
sort
of
where
things
stand
with
that
a
separate
thing
that
talks
about
four
nine,
because
that
should
be
independent,
because
whether
it's
410
or
11
412
there
should
be
something
out
there
in
the
blogosphere.
That
says
four
nine
is
no
longer
being
updated.
A
Then,
since
we
don't
have
anyone
that
can
do
any
ceph
testing,
should
we
send
something
out,
even
if
it's
not
a
blog
post
in
some
fashion,
saying
hey?
Is
there
someone
in
the
community
that
can
test
this
for
us
and
what
we
need
specifically
is
someone
to
try
testing,
fcos,
directly
mounting
seth,
to
rule
out
that
this
is
an
f
cos
issue
on
its
own.
A
He
respond,
I
saw
you
ask
him,
but
I
didn't.
Let's
look
at
that:
real
quick
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
find
it
hold
on.
A
D
A
Okay,
well,
that
you
could
do
bruce,
because
it's
just
mounting
it
in
the
container.
F
Okay,
so
in
standalone,
okay,
so
right.
F
To
4.10,
assuming
it
works,
no
problem
with
that.
D
You
could
change
that'll,
make
it
visible
outside
the
cluster,
all
right
jamie.
Can
you
throw
that
that
discussion
link
in
the
chat.
A
A
Well,
take
a
look,
and
let
us
know
we
don't
have
to
decide
that
right
now.
But
if
we
can't.
F
F
D
You
might
have
to
look
at
creator
creating
a
clean,
efcos
server,
whatever
that's
not
that
doesn't
have
okd
installed
on
it
and
see
if
you
can
do
a
remote
creo
mount
on
it
or
whatever,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
how
to
do
that.
A
B
Make
sure
there's
no
ambiguous
instructions
in
terms
of
this
is
what
we
need
you
to
do.
A
abcde
right.
A
All
right:
well,
let's
look
at
that
and
see.
Let's
we
can
talk
async
on
that
one
another
one
that
came
up
is
crc
good,
ready
containers
are
we,
it
seems
like
it's
sort
of
stalled
locally.
I
haven't
had
the
time
to
deal
with
it.
A
There's
still
mention
of
crc
on
the
in
the
okd
documentation
and
charo
did
do
a
build
in
like
november.
That
apparently
does
not
work
anymore.
Do
we
want
to
do
a
request
for
someone
in
the
community
to
do
code
or
any
container
build,
or
does
someone
hire
or
someone
else
in
the
main
group
have
time
to
do?
One.
B
F
Yeah
well,
but
also
like
all
these
tweaks
shouldn't
be
necessary,
since
there
is
a
single
node,
ocp
capability,
isn't
there,
I
haven't
tried
it,
but.
C
All
right
on
the
in
google
chat
there's
a
little
thing
where
you
can
put
your
hand
up,
and
then
I
can't
find
it
here
anymore
and
then
blue
jeans,
so
I
apologize
just
keep
putting
my
hand
up
so
we're
talking
about
crc
here
right
and
I
think
the
conversation
that
I
had-
and
this
is
over
a
month
old
with
his
name
charo.
Thank
you
brain
was
that
people
really
weren't
using
it
anymore,
crc.
A
So
the
thing
is
is
while
you
were
gone,
we
had
like
three
different
people
pop
up
that
were
like
hey.
This
is
in
your
documentation,
hey
this.
Doesn't
work,
hey
granted,
it's
only
three
people,
but
one
thing
we
learned
in
in
at
least
for
me
in
radio
we
learned
it
in
radios
for
every
person
that
calls
into
the
radio
station
there's
like
100
people
listening,
and
I
think
you
can
use
the
same
thing
for.
C
C
B
B
Crc
has
a
lot
of
this
stuff
removed
like
the
machine
set
and
things
like
that.
So
it's
meant
to
be
a
lighter
weight.
Cluster
sno
is
a
full
cluster,
so
you
need
more
much
more
resources,
but
it's
on
a
single
node
and
then
you've
got
the
full
node
so
they're
your
four
flavors
going
from
full
to
micro.
B
It's
just
that
I
didn't
have
a
single
laptop
that
was
beefy
enough
to
run
crc
because
you
can
get
it
to
run
on
a
16
gig
macbook
pro,
but
you
can't
do
anything
with
it
and
I
also
found
that
the
the
file
system
I
filled
up
and
the
mac
virtualization
the
hypervert
engine
doesn't
allow
you
to
expand
the
disk
very
easily.
So
you
end
up
being
bound
with
you:
don't
have
enough
resources
in
crc
to
actually
do
anything
useful
other
than
start
a
server
that
you
can
use
the
console
and
then
do
nothing
with.
B
But
I
think
there
are
quite
a
lot
of
people,
and
this
was
a
discussion
that
come
into
the
watson
expo
openshift
video.
There
are
people
that
want
a
local
cluster
for
testing
and
playing
with
again
a
lot
of
people.
They
want
to
learn.
They
want
the
admin
access,
but
within
their
work
situation
of
their
university
situation
they
get
a
developer
or
a
user.
So
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
people
do
want
that
local
access,
but
they
don't
have
a
workstation
with
256
gig
of
memory
and.
C
A
There
were
three
people
that
came
into
the
channel
and
I
think
there
was
one
discussion
item
asking
about
it
all
in
a
short
period
of
time
it
was
actually
kind
of
quirky.
It
was
all
like
within
the
same
week.
C
You
take
someone's
toys
away,
you
take
a
toy
away
and
or
threaten
to
take
a
toy
away.
Then
you
find
out
who's
actually
playing
with
the
toy.
A
A
F
A
F
I
think
it
works,
for
I
don't
know
a
couple
of
months
and
then
certificate
times
out
and
that's
been
an
ongoing,
well-known
issue,
which
means
that
the
only
way
that
it
will
continue
to
work
is,
if
somebody
continually
rebuilds
it,
but
I
think
that
one
difficulty
is
that
what
you
don't
know
is
these
people
that
are
unhappy
because
they
can't
install
it
whether
or
not
once
they
install
it
and
see
how
it
works
with
the
resources
they
have.
If
they
would
then
be
happy.
That's
true.
F
F
F
And
like
I,
I
have
once
built
the
you
know
charles
thing,
and
it
was.
It
never
worked
well
on
my
on
my
macbook
pro
with
32
gig
of
memory
and
the
well
when
microcube,
sorry,
micro.
F
When
microchip
came
up,
I
tried
that
and
it
didn't
quite
work
on
the
mac.
It's
the
dns
failed
to
come
up,
but
it
was
close,
and
it
could
be
that
that
you
know,
if
you
add,
in
the
the
console
as
a
separate
add-on,
that
you
might
get
closer
than
you
know,
to
what
the
users
actually
want
to
play
with.
Like.
I
think
it's
not
just
a
matter
of
you
know,
rebuilding
something
that
exists.
A
Well,
so
I
guess,
for
the
purposes
of
this
group,
I
think
we
should
figure
out
right
now.
We
have
documentation
to
something
that
doesn't
work
and
that
documentation
actually
points
to
a
fedora
repo
that
I
just,
I
think
the
datto
guys
hooked
that
up
so
that
we
could
put
crc
up
there
but
yeah
like
I
think
it
was
neil
but
charo
and
neil,
I
think,
worked
that
out
separately
and
those
details
are
not
written
anywhere.
A
Right
exactly
right,
so
I
think
what
we
first
off
in
the
bigger
picture.
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
manage
projects
or
sub-projects,
we
need
to
have
internal
documentation
about
who
has
access
to
what
and
where
things
live,
so
that
we
don't
get
into
a
situation
like
this,
where
we're
kind
of
like
okay.
How
do
we
delete
it?
Well,
we
got
to
reach
out
to
one
of
these
other
folks,
and
you
know
charo's
really
busy
right
now.
You
know
neil
will
probably
be
at
the
main
meeting
next
week.
We
can
touch
base
with
them.
A
Does
I've
got
and
I've
linked
that
to
people,
and
we
could
include
that
if
we
were
gonna
try
to
reach
out
to
people,
but
I
guess
my
question
is:
do
we
want
to
try
to
reach
out
to
the
community
to
see
if
someone
wants
to
help
towards
it,
diane
or
sorry,
brian
then
diane.
B
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
say:
the
link
to
the
character
is
actually
in
the
crc
sub
group,
section
of
okd.io
I've
linked
to
his
his
content
there.
But
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
problems
is
the
crc
subgroup,
never
actually
got
established.
B
We
said
we
needed
one
and
we
I
put
it
on
the
site
and
I
don't
think
there's
ever
been
a
meeting
of
it
and
there's
nobody
really
driving
that
and
now
that
sort
of.
So
I
think
that
is
one
thing.
If
you're
putting
a
communication
out,
we
need
volunteers
to
actually
go
love
crc,
because
I
think
there
is
still
life
in
it.
It
looks
like
red
hat,
have
plans
for
crc
for
openshift
going
forward
in
terms
of
making
it
more
usable.
B
B
C
So
I'm
going
to
add
on
to
that-
as
I
think
I
agree
with
everything
brian
was
saying-
is
pretty
much
what
I
was
going
to
say.
I
don't
want
to
sun
set
it
yet,
especially
if
three
people
pop
their
heads
up-
and
it
is
part
of
the
conversation
in
the
openshift
road
map,
so
there
are
red
hatters
working
on
it.
C
C
So
there
is
a
a
group
of
people
at
red
hat
who
are
spinning
up
a
community
of
build
and
ci
cd
patterns
called
operate
first,
and
they
have
a
cloud
that
they
can
build
stuff
on,
and
I
have-
and
I
told
them
that
when
I
was
well
and
not
traveling-
that
I
would
get
them
here,
because
I
was
hoping
that
with
the
problem
of
like
vadim
and
everybody
else
to
be
able
to
do
community
builds
of
things
that
we
owned
and
managed.
C
I'm
thinking
out
of
the
box
here
that
maybe
they
their
cloud
is
based
off
of
mass
open
cloud
in
boston.
It
is
an
open
shift
cloud,
they
have
resources
and
they
were
looking
for
projects
that
maybe
getting
them
to
take.
Charo's
information
might
be
a
good
candidate
to
see
if
they
are
viable
partners
to
collaborate
with.
You
know
like
they'll,
give
some
resources
and
if
they
have
interns
and
stuff
at
boston,
college
or
whatever.
That
would
be
interested
in
this.
C
This
sounds
like
a
small
enough
packageable
project
that
has
lots
of
moving
bits
but
like
if
dado
still
can
get
us
a
place
to
post
the
results
or
if
we
end
up
hosting
it
on
this
mass
open
cloud
thing
that
operate
first
team
in
it,
the
guy's
name
is
carsten
wade
and
marcel
hill.
They
run
that
project
within
red
hat
and
then
there's
tom
cool
is
another
guy
and
he's
actually
going
to
speak
at
kukan
about
it.
But
I
could
pitch
to
them
that
they
reach
work
with
this.
C
The
crc
group
or
just
come
to
this
docs
group,
and
maybe
they
would
take
on
the
building
of
crc.
For
us,
as
a
proof
of
concept
that
they
can,
you
know
that
we
can
figure
out
how
to
do
something
and
that
way
the
community
could
manage
on
operate.
First,
the
build
process
for
this,
because
I
was
worried
about
broaching
the
subject
of
building
okd
on
this
without
having
any
experience
and
crc
seems
like
a
small
enough
thing.
A
So
if
yeah,
so,
if
that
goes
through,
then
then
it
would
make
more
sense
to
focus
on
another
project.
For
what
you're
talking
about
so
yeah
yeah.
C
C
We'll
wait
and
see-
and
I'm
hopeful
ever
hopeful,
but
I
think
that
that
this
might
be
a
good
project
to
introduce
carsten
and
marcel
and
tom
into
if
people
are
willing
and
then
maybe
we
can
get
a
tiny
iota
of
charo's
time
to
help
them
understand
what
he
did
and
what
the
build
process
whiz
is
and
then
wrench
the
posting
of
it
either
leave
it
over
on
fedora
land
or
host
it
over
on
the
operate
first
cloud
and
re-point
things
to
where
they
should
be.
But
this
sounds
like
a
good
candidate.
C
So
there
there
you
go.
That
was
my
pitch
for
operate
first,
if
you've
never
heard
about
it
before
this
is
your
first
mention
of
it.
Google,
it
on
red
hat
and
you'll
find
them.
They
have
a
landing
page
somewhere.
All.
A
C
A
Let's
do
it,
I
say
anyone
else
on
that
pitch
it
all
right.
We've
got
nine
minutes,
so
I
want
to
get
through
the
the
next
few
things
that
we
have
here
twitter.
We
talked
about
survey,
so
I've
messaged
driti
and
she
has
not
responded
to
me.
We've
had
that
survey
sitting
around
since
november.
A
C
Yeah
I'll
see,
if
I
can
find
her
she
was
everybody
keeps
getting
succumbed
to
other
projects,
so
I'll
see
where
she's
at
right
now
and
I'll
get
it.
A
I
could
just
get
a
copy
of
it,
then
we
could
take
over
it.
You
know
because
she
was
going
to
do
the
work.
I
think
she's
really
busy
so,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
get
that
survey
out
right
around.
You
know.
You
know
the
next
couple
months
because
there's
a
lot
happening
and
then
we
could
get
a
sense
of
direction
of
of
where
people
would
like
us
to
go.
A
You
know
and
and
vadim
did
give
me
some
numbers
he's
gonna
check
on
them,
but
the
the
amount
of
okd
usage
sounds
pretty
significant,
actually
more
than
I
would
have
thought.
So
this
survey
might
give
us
a
sense
of
who's
actively
using
it
and
and
willing
to
put
a
voice
to
that.
A
Because
that's
another
thing
that
keeps
coming
up
is
that
people
are
asking
you
know
about
bare
metal
and
have
questions
about
bare
metal
and
I
feel
like
we
aren't
really
able
to
answer
them,
because
we
don't
have
enough
bare
metal
testing
and
granted
it's
a
unique
thing,
because
bare
metal
is
more
unique
than
any
of
the
other
platforms,
but
there's
some
basic
stuff
that
just
we
don't
have
documentation
for
or
don't
mention
or
can't
support
when
the
community
asks
us
for
help.
C
Is
is
that
something
I
know
we
don't
put
stuff
out
to
the
mailing
list?
Is
that
something
we
could,
but
it
might
be
it
an
ask,
is
part
of
the
survey
or
just
an
ask
on
the
mailing
list.
Is
anyone
deploying
the
bare
metal?
If
so,
could
you.
A
Yeah,
that's,
I
think
we
can
do
it
on
the
mailing
list
and
then,
if
maybe
we
could
do
something
on
twitter.
That
just
says
hey.
If
you're
doing
okd
on
bare
metal,
can
you
shoot
us
a
message
or
respond
to
this
or
something
yeah,
because
there's
folks
that
aren't
on
the
working
group
mailing
list
that
I'm
sure.
C
C
Because
brian
is
in
the
uk
brian,
I
am
getting
the
agenda
together
for
two
uk
based
openshift
commons
gatherings,
one
in
dublin
and
one
in
london,
and
I
didn't
know
if
you
were
aware
of
those
but.
B
I
don't
just
as
a
fyi,
don't
call
dublin
uk
they
get
really
upset
about
it.
B
C
B
Depending
where
things
are
with
travel,
getting
the
dublin,
but
certainly
the
london
one,
yes.
C
Okay,
so
I
will
reach
out
to
you
offline
and
you
may
be
the
okd
rep
there
just
to
do
something
that
would
be
fun.
C
Anyways,
we
will
make
sure
that
happens
at
some
point,
I'm
time
for
a
new
run
of
t-shirts.
I
think
okay,
cool,
that's
good,
so
that
was
that
we
have.
I
I
think
july
is-
I
can't
even
remember
which
one
is
in
july
and
one
is
in
the
beginning
of
ju
end
of
july,
beginning
of
june,
but
they're
far
enough
apart,
that
you
can't
come
just
to
one
if
you're,
traveling
internationally
and
stay
it'll
that'd
be
great.
A
And
shameless
plug
for
me
in
the
chat
there's
a
link
to
because
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
christian
hernandez
has
a
page
that
he
puts
these
on,
but
I'm
gonna
be
on
github's
guide
to
the
galaxy
on
thursday.
A
Argo
cd
on
okd
and
openshift.
B
B
I
forget
what
his
what
his
blog
was
called
upstream.
A
C
C
A
Yeah-
and
I
was
going
to
talk
about
that
this
meeting,
but
we
had
so
much
other
stuff
come
up.
Let's
start
formulating
a
plan,
it
might
be
best
to
just
start
just
async
like
just
start
like
a
document
and.
B
Just
start
discussion,
if
someone's
got
a
got
a
thought,
just
create
a
discussion
thing
that
we're
gonna
pile
in
on
him.
Let's
get
an
agreement
on
how
we're
gonna
migrate
it,
because
what
I
don't
wanna
do
is
have
two
sets
of
stuff
going
in
parallel
and
everything
everyone
gets
confused.
So
we
need
a
a
certain
cut
over
okay.
A
B
E
E
A
Work,
so
it's
fine,
it's
all
good
we're
gonna
get
more
people
someday.
I
promise
all
right
folks,
thanks
for
an
awesome
meeting
and
I'm
gonna
stop
the
recording
here.