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From YouTube: OKD Community Development Meeting 07-11-2023
Description
The OKD Working Group's purpose is to discuss, give guidance to, and enable collaboration on current development efforts for OKD, Kubernetes, and related CNCF projects. The OKD Working Group includes the discussion of shared community goals for OKD 4 and beyond. Additionally, the Working Group produces supporting materials and best practices for end-users and provides guidance and coordination for CNCF projects working within the SIG's scope.
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A
B
Welcome
folks
to
the
okd
Community
Development
meeting
for
July
11th
of
the
year
2023
and
we've
got
an
agenda
to
basically
look
at
the
the
card
stack
that
we
have
in
the
okd
planning
board.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
jump
right
into
it.
Is
that
surge
did
anyone
want
to
edit
add
anything
to
the
agenda
other
than
that.
B
Other
than
sort
of
reviewing
cards
and
and
talking
about
the
sort
of
video
series
we
talked
about,
I've
got
I
created
a
card
for
it,
okay.
Well,
let's
jump
right
into
that,
and
that's
actually
actually,
let's
start
out
with
that,
you'll
notice
that
there's
now
a
card
and
I'm
gonna
share.
My
videos
screen
here
share
my
screen.
We
talked
about
doing
this
last
time.
B
Okay,
so
folks
can
see
this
card.
This
is
the
okd
video
series.
I
gave
it
a
name
just
that
we're
not
you
know,
lacking
and
and
like
so
we
know
what
we're
referring
to
right
so
I
just
called
it.
The
okd
foundation's
video
series-
these
are
the
things
I
think
that
we
basically.
C
C
Yeah,
like
my
experience,
teaching
in
kubernetes,
the
the
usually
the
first
things
are
gonna,
be
setting
up
cert
manager
setting
up
like
database.
If
it's
internal
or
external,
then
the
application
like
the
real.
B
C
I
doubt
it
we
have
very
little
and
I
think
that's
the
problem
like
it's
very
hard
to
to,
for
the
customer
like
to
get
the
okb
or
openshift
and
be
successful
without
an
essay
without
training,
without
like
it's
just
to
get
an
application
deployed
like
I,
think,
like
application
and
database
primary
secondary,
like
the
thing
they
get
on
two
clicks
on
AWS,
they
that's
the
thing
they
want
to
do
here
like
run
an
app
in
a
database.
Perhaps
a
cache
things
like
this.
C
And
and
the
most
common
kubernetes
Sphinx
like
cert
manager,
perhaps
Argo
CD
I,
don't
know
and
that's
the
thing
I
don't
know
like
I'm
talking
from
the
things
I
see
people
trying
to
do.
D
Go
ahead,
yeah,
the
obviously
that
as
two
separate
things,
okay,
so
the
application
possibly
including
a
database,
would
be
one
and
then
you
know,
cert
managers
and
Argo
CD,
that's
sort
of
a
mental
level
of
an
application,
so
the
so
I
think
with
with
the
application.
Slash
database
part,
that's
pretty
straightforward
these
days,
like
I,
do
it
with
my
students
in
the
very
first
week's
lab,
and
if
you
want
to
go
with
a
canned
one,
you
know,
like
you
know,
start
a
WordPress.
You
know
application
that.
D
That's,
like
you
know
two
command
lines,
and
there
are
what
I
found
is
that
the
the
ocp
based
tutorials
on
just
applications,
Muslim
work
on
okd
as
well,
including
some
relatively
fancy
things
so
I
mean
it
wouldn't
take
too
much
to
do
something
like
that,
and
the
question
would
be,
though,
application
using
what
technology?
B
C
Yeah
I
feel
like
one
thing:
there
is
another.
Let's
say
perspective
is
production
versus
development,
because
I
think
it's
really
easy
to
get
a
MySQL
container
running.
But
if
you
want
it
to
be
highly
available
and
not
perhaps
that
simple,
at
least
would
require
a
bit
more
steps
and.
D
Yeah
and
I
agree
like
that:
okay,
so
persistent
storage
is
sort
of
on
the
difficult
side
of
kubernetes
okay,
because
kubernetes
was
mainly
designed
for
stateless
loads,
and
it's
it's
very
good
at
that
with
pretty
much
no
effort
yeah,
you
know
the
the
guy
that
does
the
red
hat
or
used
to
do
a
lot
of
the
red
hat
videos.
You
know
sort
of
plugging
the
new
stuff,
but
Edison
I
forget
his
last
name,
but
he
wrote
a
a
document
on
databases
and.
C
D
Although
and
again
it
they
were
getting
into
architectural
issues,
so
if
you're,
like
our
students,
will
often
start
with
Firebase,
because
that's
there,
they
can
do
a
free
version,
it
allows
easy
restful
apis
to
it
and
Google's
already
put
it
in
a
cloud
thing,
so
you
don't
have
to
so
then
you
can
concentrate
on
the
other
side,
so
as
I
say,
like
applications,
which
is
actually
my
main
work
area
is
a
big
subject
and
I
think
that
I
think
we
want
to
get
a
bit
more
specific.
E
E
B
Well
right,
because
that
that
there
is
stuff
missing,
I,
think
on
the
application
and
developer
side,
you
know.
D
If
I
could
just
have,
but
one
last
point
in
and
I'll
shut
up,
the
the
like
back
in
the
okd
three-point
era,
Red
Hat
put
out
this
sort
of
you
know
free
to
download
document
on
application
development
on
okd,
and
if
you
know
what
how
Okay
D4
works,
you
can
sort
of
make
it
work.
D
But,
oh
a
couple
years
ago,
Diane
was
going
to
go
off
and
see
whether
or
not
that
could
get
updated,
like
I
volunteered
to
update
it
over
one
summer
and
get
republished
for
version.
Four
and
I
think
that
something
like
that
is
a
separate
thread.
Maybe
it
deserves
a
separate
card
or
something
like
that.
D
My
issue
was
I,
don't
have
the
the
content
rights,
you
know
to
edit
it
because
it's
a
red
hat
thing,
but
that
would
be
something
that
would
be
maybe
separate
card,
and
you
could
say
okay
here
download
this
and
that
will
set
you
off
on
using
okd,
yeah
and
I
do
agree
that
it's
not
once
you
get
the
thing
up
and
running,
then
the
next
question
is
well.
What
do
you
do
with
it
right
and
then
you
get
into
you
know.
D
E
I
think,
as
you
mentioned,
Bruce
there's
a
lot
of
very
good
information
on
developer.red
hat.com
and
even
just
starting
with
the
developer
perspective
on
the
console,
the
source
to
image
you
get
taken
through
and
handheld.
E
A
E
That
we
probably
need
to
put
something
in
the
documentation,
but
I
I
wouldn't
mix
it
with
this
card,
because
I
think
this
card
is
about
providing
content,
that's
not
readily
available,
and
it's
more
focused
at
the
admin,
the
setup,
the
config,
the
the
underlying
core
okd,
whereas
I
think
what
we've
been
talking
about
is
more
about
the
application
developer
role.
And
how
do
you
create
workloads
for
okd.
F
B
F
I
was
basically
going
to
say,
I
think
what
Julia's
saying
is
it's
valid,
and
it
could
be
something
that
we
should.
We
could
look
at
that
I
mean
I,
would
look
at
more
advanced
topics
like
how
to
run
like
with
security
context
constraints,
how
to
run
a
privileged
pod,
how
to
lock
down
your
cluster?
F
How
to
how
to
deploy.
We
spoke
about
maybe
a
high
availability
database,
using
node
affinity
and
pod
affinity
and
anti-infinity
and
almost
affinity
and
all
those
sort
of
advanced
topics,
but
maybe
as
a
a
side
thread
for
future
discussion,
but
I
think
this
specific
should
be
exactly
what
we've
said
here,
but
not,
but
not
negating
what
what
Julia
is
saying,
I
think
it's
a
good
thing,
it's
good
to
maybe
show
people,
you
know.
A
B
And
there
another
area,
I
agree
with
that
and
I
I
think
another
area
that
could
use
some
Illumination
in
terms
of
okd
is-
and
this
came
from
my
own
experience,
existing
developers.
How
did
they
move
towards
a
kubernetes
get
Ops
workflow
like
very
specifically
like
okay
you're
used
to
developing
on
a
local
machine?
You
know
using
eclipse
or
whatever.
B
How
do
you
transition
to
developing
on
a
kubernetes
cluster
in
particular
okd,
and
and
how
does
that
workflow
go
and
that's
something
that
there
isn't
a
lot
of
documentation
on
there's
stuff
from
Red
Hat
on
you
know.
Well,
you
can
use
these
plugins.
You
can
use
the
developer
Integrations
in
ocp
ETC,
but
I
think
it'd
be
good
to
shine
some
light
on
sort
of
if
you're,
a
developer
and
you're
used
to
developing
in
a
local
environment
with
local
tools.
How
do
you
make
that
transition
to
getting
the
code
up
and
running
in
okd?
B
So
I
do
see
this
as
a
separate
card,
but
I
don't
want
to
abandon
it
so
I'll
create
that
separate
card
after
the
meeting
is
done,
and
we
can
start
to
populate
that
as
well.
So
yeah
I
don't
want
to
lose
track
of
this
yeah
yeah.
F
A
good
one
and
I
think
it
also
encroaches
the
architecture
that
Bruce
so
roughly
brought
up,
because
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
do
the
do
5
500
course:
devops
culture
and
best
practices
internally
in
red
hat,
and
it's
it's
magnificent
because
it
teaches
you
and
shows
you
about
setting
up
your
architecture
for
cicd
how
to
do
builds,
how
to
do
local
development
into
you
know,
using
gitops
and
and
Argo
and
Tech
fund
and
all
those
wonderful
things
you
know
so.
F
Yeah
I
think
there's
there's
tons
of
material
that
you
you
know
we
could
use
and
and
add
and
and
make
it
quite
elaborate.
Yeah.
B
All
right
and
let's,
let's
start
putting
some
some
some
some
faces
to
this,
so
F
costs.
We
know
Timothy
volunteered
s-cos,
who
is
going
to
do
s
cause.
F
B
So
Christian
I
did
talk
to
Christian
Chad
just
a
few
minutes
ago.
He
is
going
to
do
the
okd
f
costs
build
stuff
as
well,
because
apparently
he's
giving
a
presentation
internally
on
okd,
build
and
installer
Basics.
So
he's
going
to
record
that
and
then
do
maybe
do
something
else.
B
So
let
me
so
I'll
throw
you
both
under
the
bus
for
that,
okay,
so
Luigi
and
Christian
and
we'll
say
Christian
for
okd
and
okay
and
then
okd
on
this
costs
we're
seeing
Christian
again
or
Luigi
and
Christian
and.
G
I
did
ask
around,
but
I
didn't
I
didn't
come
up
with
anyone
who
was
like
you
know,
had
the
free
time
to
kind
of
do
it.
Unfortunately,.
G
Must
gather
yeah
I
would
still
like
to
do
the
must-gather
one
if
I
can
find
some
free
time
whatever
you
call
that
and.
B
G
D
G
I
think
just
out
of
like
given
the
discussion
we've
had
here
and
stuff
too
I
think
it
might
be
worthwhile
putting
the
scoping
on
the
top
of
this
card,
just
to
say
that
you
know
we're
trying
to
make
some
videos
about.
You
know
that
would
help.
You
know
the
admin
type
Persona
or
something
like
that.
You
know
or
help
to
understand
kind
of
like
okd
as
a
system
or
something
just
so
we
don't,
you
know,
get
confused
about
like
well.
G
I,
you
said
it
earlier
and
I
thought
the
way
you
said
it
was
perfect
and
like
I
now
I,
don't
remember
what
you
said
you
were.
You
were
talking
about
kind
of
the
personas
involved
and
and
who
these
videos
were
oriented
towards
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
remember
what
you
said,
but
I
liked
the
way
you
said
it.
B
Okay,
what
else
do
we
need
to
add
in
here?
What
else
are
folks
thinking.
E
Do
we
need
to
put
something
in
I
know
that
sort
of
Luigi
did
the
the
the
sort
of
user
provisioned
UPI
versus
IPI
we've
got
the
new
agent
installer
I'm
I.
Think
that's
pretty
new
I,
don't
know
if
people
really
understand
what
that's
about
just
to
help
people
understand
what
are
the
methods
of
installing
and
when
they
should
choose,
which
one.
F
H
Yes,
yeah
yeah
for
sure
I
I'd
be
currently
I've,
been
able
to
deploy
escos
okd
using
agent
based
installer
I've,
fixed
a
missing
installer
environment
available
to
the
right.
The
Aussie
image
and
I've
also
prepared,
if
you
are
interested
a
sort
of
mini
agent
environment,
to
create
a
playground
for
setting
up
an
okd
cluster
using
agent
based
installer
on
a
virtual
machine,
specifically
for,
as
you
know,
just
as
a
way
to
offer
a
simple
method
for
people
to
play
with
this
approach.
H
I'm
car,
so
the
the
current
method
works,
but,
of
course,
in
it's
using
a
bunch
of
environmental
variables
that
are
not,
let's
say
suggested
for
production.
I've
been
talking
with
Christian
about
a
POC
that
I've
prepared
to
better
integrate.
Okay,
the
deployment
with
agent
based
installer,
so
maybe
I,
can
reach
out
Christian
to
understand
how
to
progress
on
this
activity
and
that
be
happy
to
help
on
this
part
for
sure.
B
Hey
folks,
what
else
do
we
got?
What
else
or
I
mean
this
is
quite
a
bit
right
here.
Does
this?
Does
this
cover
really
getting
someone
started
in
really
understanding
the
foundation
so
that
they
can?
You
know,
support,
provide
community
support
for
okd
and
and
start
to
share
that
knowledge.
This
looks
pretty
good
were.
E
B
Yeah
we
can
I
mean
I
was
I,
wasn't
really
sure
until
a
few
minutes
ago,
if
the
dean
was
going
to
get
involved,
but
Vadim
didn't
want
to
commit.
So
really
it
would
be
a
question
of
of
Christian
and
and
Timothy
to
decide
like
do
they
want
to
do
this
because
maybe.
B
F
Well,
the
ignition
files
stay
the
same,
but
obviously
you'll.
You
point
you
point
to
the
raw
tar
gz
for
if
cost
is
different
to
that
of
escorts.
Obviously
yeah.
B
G
D
B
Well,
yeah
yeah
I
mean
I'm
the
way
I
look
at
this
is
I
think
it
would
be
a
separate,
so
we
would
have
Timothy,
maybe
do
both,
and
so
do
it
like
this.
So
this
is
what
I'm
thinking
like
it
would
be.
Ignition
Timothy
look
at
my
ease
here
then
F
costs,
then
s
cause
and
and
so
separating
it
out
into
three
15-minute
videos
might
be
or
I,
don't
know
how
long
it
is
how
long
the
video
Christian
is
doing
for
building
okayd
and
build
modifications.
B
D
H
B
F
G
G
We're
if
we're
popping
back
up
the
stack
here
I
can
like
I,
was
thinking
looking
at
this
list.
It
might
be
worthwhile
to
have
like
kind
of
a
first
aid,
triage
type,
video
that
just
says,
like
you
know,
I
or
maybe
I'm
I'm
kind
of
wondering.
Would
it
be
worthwhile
to
have
like
a
first
aid
kind
of
triage
type,
video
where
you
say
like
okay,
if
you're
experiencing
a
problem
with
your
okd,
these
are
the
kind
of
things
you
should
do
like
you,
you
know
you
can
check
log
files.
G
You
could
make
a
must
gather.
You
could
open
a
bug
like
not
something
that
gets
very
specific
about
how
to
fix
every
problem,
but
just
like,
if
you're
experiencing
a
problem.
What
are
some
of
the
pathways
you
should
start
to
investigate.
You
know
that
that
might
be
really
useful
for
people
in
the
community
too.
B
Yeah,
that's
like
a
troubleshooting
Essentials
type
thing
like
a
15
right,
yeah.
G
Right
like
something
is
going
wrong.
What
are
some
things
you
could
do
right
like
you
could,
like
I
said,
like
you
could
look
at
log
files.
You
could
attempt
to
locate
what
component
it
is
you
you
could
go
here
to
look
for
other
bugs
that
are
open.
You
know
just
so
that,
as
we
have
community
members
who
start
to
you
know,
because
we
do
get
a
lot
of
issues
where
people
are
like
this
doesn't
work
for
me
that
doesn't
work
for
me.
B
So
I
put
my
name
down:
does
anyone
else
want
to
volunteer
to
do
that?
With
me?
We
could
do
a
recorded.
We
could
record
a
screen
share.
Video.
G
B
Actually
I've
noticed
in
the
slack
channel,
in
particular
that
folks,
even
though
there's
a
section
in
the
okd
and
in
the
ocp
documents
about
you,
know
troubleshooting
a
lot
of
folks,
don't
really
dig
in
there
and
don't
really
know
how
to
get
started
or
where
to
get
started
right
all
right.
So
let
me,
let's
see
so
who's
next
Cassano.
Are
you
next
yeah.
A
I
I
think
Bruce
was
was
oh.
D
Yeah
no,
this
is
this
is
really
good.
The
at
some
point
you
know
like
S-Class,
is
sort
of
around
enough
so
that
people
are
going
to
wonder
which
they
should
use.
D
So
it
might
be
useful
to
have
some
guidance
on
why
you
would
choose
one
versus
the
other
okay
as
a,
and
that
could
be
I
mean
like
one
of
the
problems
with
doing
the
the
half
hour
or
15
minute.
Videos
is
that
you
can
waste
a
lot
of
time
and
getting
started
and
setting
the
scene
and
so
I
suggest
after
we
do
some
of
these
more
focused
ones.
We
then
look
at
organizing
them
and
you
know
what's
missing
and
you
know
getting
some
flow
between
them.
D
I
I'm,
not
suggesting.
We
should
worry
about
that
right
now,
because
we
don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
organize,
but
you
know
after
we
we
get
some
of
these,
and
then
we
can
try
and
do
more
of
that
and
I'd
be
happy
to
get
involved
with
the
troubleshooting
as
well.
D
Now,
in
terms
of
the
flow
things
it
seems
like
we,
if
we
go
through
this,
this
whole
exercise
on
the
get
UPS
type
stuff.
That's
a
whole
nother
separate
set
of
these
things
and
if
Julio
wants
applications,
you
know
that's
a
that's
a
third
one,
but
along
these
lines,
which
is
admin
the
I
guess
we
could,
we
could
sort
into
installation
versus
second
day
operations.
D
Oh,
it
seems
to
be
sort
of
the
way
we're
flowing.
You
know.
A
lot
of
troubleshooting
installations
is
slightly
different
than
troubleshooting
upgrades,
for
instance,
although
there
are
some
some
commonality
there.
C
A
Yeah
three
points,
starting
from
the
ignition
I
I,
think
probably
also.
H
A
The
other
point
for
troubleshooting
I
I,
definitely
agree.
It's.
H
Fundamental,
for
example,
for
the
agent
based
installer.
There
is
also
an
agent
gatherer
step
that
it's
fundamental
for
Gathering
and
understanding,
What
didn't
went
correctly
and
I
think
it
could
be
relevant,
especially
I
noticed
when
people
opened
up
issues
on
the
okd
project
having
an
indication
on
how
to
troubleshoot.
This
thing
initially
could
be,
in
my
opinion,
a
fundamental
thing,
and
not
not
only
for
letting
people
understand
themselves.
What's
the
problem,
but
those
eventually
to
propose
the
right
amount
of
artifacts
to
to
the
community.
H
The
different
possibilities,
the
UPI
or
API
and
ABI-
so
maybe
for
UPI
and
IPI.
There
could
be
better,
better
people
better
option.
I
I
was
focusing
lately
on
agent
based
installer.
So
that's
that
could
be
another
point.
If
you,
if
there
are
other
volunteers
on
a
UPI,
API
I
will
I
will
be
active
for
that
and
let
me
focus
on
just
the
ABI
part.
B
Okay,
I
think
for
UPI,
like
UPI
installations,
can
vary
depending
on
what
your
what
you're
putting
it
on,
but
there
are
some
basic
things
that
are
needed
for
UPI.
That
I
noticed
some
questions
in
slack,
like
you
know,
do
I
need
to
have
a
you
know,
a
load
balancer
in
front
of
it
and
things,
and
so
I
think
a
basic
UPI.
These
are
the
things
you're
going
to
need
type
session
would
be
helpful
for
sure.
B
You
know
these
are
the
types
of
things
that
you're
going
to
need
if
you're
provisioning
this
someone,
interestingly
enough,
asked
in
the
slack
Channel
yesterday
or
the
day
before
about
AWS
not
being
like.
If
there
would
be
an
option
to
do
AWS
I
guess
it
would
be
a
UPI
that
didn't
rely
on
Route
53
for
its
DNS
and
I
haven't
heard
anything
coming
out
along
those
lines,
but
they
mentioned
that
they
thought
they
saw
some
stuff
online.
But
that's
stuff
like
that.
B
If
that
happens,
that's
going
to
get
really
interesting
and
really
really
make
it
even
more
complex,
UPI,
even
more
complex
cool,
all
right.
So
are
we
good
with
this
set
I?
Don't
want
to
make
this
too
big
of
a
of
of
tasks.
We
do.
We
definitely
want
to
get
this
done
and
not
make
it
so
big
that
we
don't
get
this
done,
but
are
we
pretty
good
here?
We
just
need
to
find
someone
to
do
MCO.
Is
that
what
we're
looking
at.
B
All
right,
let's
see
here
so
I
guess
the
next
thing
would
be
do
we
want
to
put
do
we
want
to
time
box
this,
or
do
we
want
to
just
say
when
people
can
get
it
done.
G
G
B
E
Where
we're
coming
into
vacation
Series
in
the
northern
hemisphere,
so
probably
going
to
be
out,
I
mean.
Ideally
we
want
them
ASAP,
but
I'm
very
aware.
People
have
got
day,
jobs
and
I
think
we
have
to
be
respectful
for
that.
But
I
mean
it'd
be
good
if
we
could
sort
of
try
and
say
sort
of
by
September,
as
we
come
after
the
vacation
period
to
try
and
get
these
in
place
by
by
say
mid-september
and
then
gives
people
like
two
months
to
try
and
schedule
them
in,
but.
B
That
sounds
reasonable.
You
know
by
by
fall-ish.
E
B
And
we'll
massage
it
a
little
bit,
you
know
or
a
worst
case
scenario,
we'll
get
a
juror
instance
set
up.
Let's
see
here,
do
we
have
time
we've
got
20
minutes.
Can
we
pivot
to
operators
and
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
I
know
Brian.
You
wanted
to
keep
the
momentum
going
on
operator
stuff.
Do
we
want
to
Pivot
to
that
in
the
last
few
minutes
here.
E
Yeah
I'm
not
sure
we
can
actually
do
much
conversation
because
obviously
I'm
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
catch
up
with
Christian.
Yet
because
I
think
a
lot
of
the
action
is
against
me
and
Christian
I
was
on
holiday
and
then
I
had
family
visiting,
so
I've
not
been
very
active
in
the
last
two
three
weeks,
so
I'm
not
sure
we
can
actually
do
much
on
operators.
E
Although
I
do
have
a
question
for
the
red
Hatters.
Is
there
a
way
to
track
ocp
operators,
because
I've
noticed
that
there's
very
little
tagging
goes
on
within
the
git
Repose.
So
is
there
a
way
to
find
out
what
is
the
source
of
Truth
for
a
specific
version,
because
I'm
trying
to
think
if
we
could
try
and
keep
them
in
line
the
okd
and
the
ocp?
It
would
be
useful
but
I
I'm
I'm,
guessing
that
a
lot
of
that
is
buried
in
prowl
and
we
may
not
have
access
to
that
publicly.
E
F
So,
let's
say
412
or
413
and
inside
there
you've
got
all
the
information
about
every
single
operator
that
gets
published
with
that
index
and
their
versions,
and
they
they
sit
in
a
in
a
specific
folder
in
a
folder
called
configs,
and
then
they
have
declarative
configs
inside
them
on
you
know
what
the
operator
does
it's
bundles
and
it's
channels
available
channels
and
all
that
type
of
thing,
I'm,
just
thinking
from
I,
think
I'm,
not
sure,
as
that
sits
behind
subscriptions,
but.
E
This
is
sort
of
hidden
in
some
way,
because,
ideally
that's
what
that's
what
we
want
to
do
so
I'm
guessing
that's
similar
to
the
sort
of
the
core
operators
where
you
can
go
and
look.
It
has
a
link
to
the
git
commit
that
built
the
source.
So,
if
I
take
any
of
the
core
core
operators
within
the
cluster,
I
can
actually
go
and
find
the
git
commit
that
was
used
to
build.
That.
F
E
Are
we
allowed
to
use
it
and
put
it
in
the
pipeline
without
getting
our
hands
slapped
because
it
does
say
you've
got
60
days
when
you've
when
you
do
that,
because
I
I
do
you
want
to
put
this
into
a
pipeline,
so
it
it'll
automatically
trigger
and
automatically
generate
when
it
needs
to
see
when
it
sees
something
has
changed,
but.
F
Yeah
I
think
that
might
be
a
problem
you're
right
after
60
days,
I
mean
that's
the
trial
period,
yeah
yeah
I
think
you
see
for
us
it's
it's
easy,
because
this
is
what
we
have
internally,
but
for
the
community
there's
nothing
and.
B
Actually,
in
general,
I'm
still
seeing
a
lot
of
confusion
amongst
users
about
the
whole
pull
secret
thing.
I
almost
feel
like.
We
need
to
elaborate
on
that
a
little
bit
more
for
clarity,
because
something
came
up
the
other
day
where
someone
asked
in
the
slack
about
I,
don't
remember
what
operator
it
was,
but
it
was,
and
then
this
conversation
about
the
pull
Secrets
started
and
yeah.
B
So
maybe
that
would
be
a
separate
topic.
There
is
to
create
a
page
that
sort
of
highlights
the
the
pull
secret
phenomenon.
A
A
E
B
Is
and
and
actually
someone
said
that
they
were
specifically
told
not
to
related
people
how
to
change
out
and
use
it?
The
poll
secret
to
get
the
catalog
changed
so
yeah,
let's,
let's
do
a
page
that
outlines
the
whole
pull
secret
situation
and
then
for
the
operators.
A
F
E
Our
our
people
power
to
go
in
and
have
them
doing
manual
checks
all
the
time
to
see.
Does
this
need
rebuilding?
Does
this
need
updating?
Is
there
a
newer
version
of
this?
So
we
want
to
try
and
automate
all
of
that
and
that
that
is
happening
already
within
ocp.
So
we
want
to
sort
of
jump
on
the
back
of
that,
but
it
would
be
nice
if
the
problem
and
the
public
get
Repose.
So
we
could
actually
just
use
that,
but
I'm
aware
that
it's
not
happening.
F
B
F
And
and
to
monitor
them
to
see
where
a
change
in
git
has
happened,
yeah
that's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
difficult,
but
yeah
I
agree.
Let's,
let's
see,
let's
see
we
fish
around
and
talk
and
chat
speak
to
the
guys,
the
bit
what
you
could
do
is
we
have
the
the
Z
stream
releases
really
happen
once
a
week,
so
you
could
just
have
a
Cron
job
running
and
at
the
end
of
the
week
just
go.
E
Okay,
so
is
it
worth
us
selling
up
a
call
during
sort
of
daytime,
and
and
can
you
arrange
that
Luigi
just
to
have
a
chat
with
maybe
someone
who
does
the
catalog
within
OCD
yeah
just
look
at
what
is
what
is
possible?
What
would
be
possible?
Obviously
we
don't
want
to.
We
don't
want
red
hat,
to
have
to
change
anything
or
that
probably
won't
change
anything
for
us.
E
What
is
possible,
because,
again,
what
I
don't
want
to
pick
up
any
operator
changes
that
haven't
yet
been
released,
so
we
can't
just
rely
on
permits
within
an
operator
repo
because
it
might
be
a
partial
fix
or
it
might
be
a
and.
F
The
other
thing
is
yeah
to
that
point
is
the
the
cve,
and
that
is
totally
totally
internal
to
Reddit.
Some
of
them
we're
not
even
allowed
to
talk
about
yeah.
E
F
B
E
I
do
have
a
there
is
a
pull
request
in
okd.io
that
I
want
to
talk
about.
I
asked
you
to
sort
of
look
at
it
last
time
and
knowledge.
We
knew
anything
about
it.
So.
E
C
The
the
thing
I
did,
there
was
two
things
basically
and
both
trying
to
cover
the
same
thing
of
making
it
easy
for
people
to
see
their
changes.
So
gitbod
is
like
our
code,
ready
containers,
but
the
better
I'd
say
it's
just.
You
can
click
that
URL
right
there
and
it
will
run
the
the
thing
entirely
because
it
has
a
init
command
and
you
can
see
your
edits
right
away
and
also
there
is
a
Docker
files.
That
does
the
same.
C
C
E
C
Just
the
way
I
edit,
the
docs
anyway,
okay.
E
Do
you
have
to
pay
for
it?
You
have
to
pay
for
GitHub.
E
Because
my
thought
was
MK
docs
is
such
a
simple
tool
and
there
is
like
an
npm
run
already
within
the
repo.
So
you
don't
need
to
create
a
Docker
Hub,
because
there's
a
public
container
for
mkdocs
already
built.
So
you
can
just
say:
npm
run
if
you
wanted
to
run
it
using
podman
and
Docker
on
your
local
machine
or
install
it.
So
that's
that's
what
the
documentation
suggests
and
it
was
really
just.
E
C
E
B
And
I
think
that's
actually,
let's
see
here.
E
C
B
Documentation,
product
documentation
updates,
if
you
encounter
process
when
you
set
out
of
the
word
group
section
of
the
documentation.
Oh
here
we
go
modifying.
Oh
you
know
what,
because
it's
under
the
subject,
we
should
pull
it
out
of
that
because
it's
what
it
is,
is
it's
buried
under
the
working
group,
stuff,
yeah.
E
E
B
D
C
I
just
did
was
have
a
Docker
file
with
the
with
the
thing
I
don't
know
if
there
was
already
a
Docker
file
there,
so
that
might
be
deprecated.
So
you.
C
Mkdogs
but
then
you
have
to
copy
the
the
content.
E
E
There's
two
things:
there
is
the
actual
pull
request.
Is
it
needed,
but
I
think
then
there
is
the
more
General
when
people
want
to
introduce
a
new
tool.
Is
there
a
way
that
we
actually
evaluate
that?
Because
up
to
now
it's
been
people
do
I'm
guilty
about
myself.
I
set
this
up
and
I
did
what
I
thought
was
right.
B
C
C
The
same
like
the
the
commands
in
the
get
put
are
the
same.
It's
just
I
thought
like
if
I
was
editing
the
documentation,
what
do
I
miss
here
and
one
is
gitbot
because
I
use
that
a
lot
and
it
allows
everybody
to
have
the
same
experience
and
not
no
commands
and
just
get
one
click
in
a
link
and
done
so
they
wouldn't
have
children
find
this
this
page,
so
I
think
it
really
makes
it
easy.
But
it's
again
it's
one
tool.
It's
my
preference.
As
I
said.
C
Perhaps
we
should
be
more
careful
about
this
I,
don't
think
so.
It's
just
a
harmless
gml
file,
but.
B
C
C
Like
if
you,
if
you
want
like,
if
you
want
to
just
check
out
the
code
and
use
our
own
machine,
that's
okay,
but
the
good
thing
about
gitbot
is
that
it
will
run
on
the
image
if
everything
pre-installed
and
ready
to
run
and
even
already
running
and
built,
because
they
previewed
the
images
so
for
editing.
Docs
50
hours
is
probably
more
than
enough
I
think
it's
a
very
useful
tool.
And
but
again
that's
that's
the
way.
I.
B
G
B
I
did
want
to
direct
folks
to
there's
a
new
FAQ.
You
might
be
familiar
with
the
one,
that's
the!
How
do
I
see
what's
inside,
of
a
CI
release
and
the
idea
of
the
components
I
added
a
new
one
based
on
something
I
saw
Vadim
say,
which
is
how
do
you
find
out
the
version
of
a
particular
package
within
a
release?
B
And
so
this
shows
you
how
you
can
go
into
the
machine,
OS
content
and
then
actually
query
the
package
to
find
out
what
version
something
it's
like
cryo
or
something
like
that.
So
just
just
a
heads
up,
so
you
can
direct
folks
to
that.
If
you
ever
see
that
question
all
right,
I
want
to
call
this
because
we're
a
little
bit
over
at
this
point
excellent
conversation
and
we'll
pick
up
all
the
things
that
are
pending
and
for
all
the
to
Do's
on
the
video
stuff.
B
Please
go
out
and
and
start
talking
to
people
to
to
get
these
videos
done.