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From YouTube: OKD Working Group 2020 07 07 Full Meeting Recording
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OKD Working Group 2020 07 07 Full Meeting Recording
A
B
A
The
attendee
list,
so
if
you
go
and
add
your
names
in
there,
that
would
be
wonderful
and
so
I'm
gonna.
Kick
it
off
right
off
the
bat.
So
I
can
catch
my
breath
from
the
last
meeting
and
catching
up
here
and
ask
Christian
to
give
a
little
update
on
where
we're
at
with
OCP
4.5,
ok
and
how
that
impacts,
ok,
d,
GA,
etc,
etc
and
swear
everybody
to
secrecy.
B
All
right,
so
we
are
still
making
progress
and
we're
still
I
think
on
schedule
with
regards
to
releasing
very
shortly
after
the
OCP
4.5
release,
so
the
OCP
4.5
release
date
GA
for
4.5
OCP,
has
now
been
set,
I
think
for
the
13th,
if
there's
no,
no
more
hiccups,
it'll
it'll
be
next
week
and
then
yeah,
1,
2
or
3
days.
After
that
we
will
go
GA
with
ok
d
as
well,
though
yeah
in
the
MCO,
the
dual
support
has
merged.
B
Now,
one
thing
that's
missing
still
is
actually
flipping
the
switch
and
migrating
the
internal
states,
the
rendered
machine
config
to
ignition
spec
v3,
point
1,
which
is
what
we'll
also
be
using
for
ok
D,
that
is
in
the
making
and
we're
not
actually
blocking
on
that,
because
it'll
it'll
get
merged.
That's
that's
for
sure,
and
we
can
just
take
that
code
and
also
go
GA
with
that
in
case
it
doesn't
work
before
but
yeah.
So
almost
all
the
differences
between
OCP
MCO
and
okay
DM
Co
have
been
resolved,
which
is
great
with
the
Installer.
B
C
Do
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
cut
a
release
candidate,
like
maybe
this
week,
for
folks
that
we're
attempting
to
use
beta
six
that
hit
a
couple
of
the
issues
that
have
been
fixed
in
the
Knightley's
III
know
what
probably
one
of
the
bigger
ones
was.
Anybody
deploying
with
a
mirrored
registry
couldn't
use
beta
six.
They
had
had
to
use
one
of
the
Knightley's
after
the
fix,
but
if
we
go
ahead
and
cut
an
RC
that
will
give
them
something
to
to
work
off
of
before
we
cut
the
final
GA,
it.
D
Also
would
line
up
very
well
with
how
we
traditionally
have
made
you
know
releases
we
done
just
like
a
side
from
fedora
who
has
is,
and
even
Fedora
still
does
it's
like
there's
an
RC
a
candidate
before
we
go
to
the
final
and
like
if
we're
we're
talking
about
releasing
a
final
within
two
weeks
right.
Let's,
let's
go
ahead
and
cut
an
RC
this
week
is
there?
Is
there
any
particular
reason
we
shouldn't.
B
No,
there
isn't
and
we're
actually
planning
on
doing
that
so
I
know
Vadim
Opel,
madam
and
I
and
Clayton
Coleman
I
met
yesterday
to
discuss
the
technicalities.
Designing
and
everything
so
Vadim
is
going
to
take
care
of
that
I'm,
not
sure.
If
he's
here,
then
you
can
probably
say
a
little
bit
more
to
that.
But
yeah
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
and
RC
release.
E
Right
we're
waiting
for
the
change
to
release
controller
to
roll
out.
That
would
enable
us
to
sign
releases
with
a
trusted
signature
that
mean
you
would
be
able
to
upgrade
from
that
a6
to
our
C
without
forcing
it
and
another
thing
we're
waiting
for
is
a
switch
to
the
stable
to
the
rockers.
We
will
leave
testing
the
belt
stream
on
for
at
six
and
once
the
next
machine
is
content
promotes
we
will
be
able
to
update
them
lightly,
so
yeah
very
RC
certainly
happening.
B
A
D
D
B
D
A
But
I
well,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about
was
I
wanted
to
help
post
something
to
promote
the
GA
around
coupe
con
and
cook
on
always
has
a
day.
0
thing
and
I
am
NOT
hosting
a
gathering
on
day,
0
whoa
I
know
well
cuz.
They
move
the
date
so
many
times,
I
just
couldn't
I
just
couldn't
that's.
D
A
But
I
was
thinking
that
maybe
and
I'm
trying
to
think
of
something.
That's
a
low
effort
thing
for
everybody,
because
we're
all
busy
but
I
think
Joseph
put
it
here.
Is
that
in
the
question
here
is
actually
what
I
was
thinking
of
doing
was
asking
people
from
this
group
to
take
a
slot
and
show
live,
live
coding
if
you're
was
live
streaming
deploying
on
each
of
the
available
platforms,
so
just
stagger
a
whole
batch
like
here's.
A
Basically
going
the
whole
day
that
those
of
us
who
are
on
this
call
pay
attention
to
I
can
moderate
it
and
host
it,
but
basically
have
an
open,
ok,
D
working
group
here
it
is,
and
if
you
want
to
know
about
it
on
this
platform,
come
at
this
time
come
at
this
time
and
just
I,
and
it
will
be
fluid
because
demos
will
break
and
set.
It
will
take
longer
on
other
people's
platforms.
Then
you
know
different
things
and
some
things
are
made.
A
You
may
want
to
have
a
video
backup
for,
but
if
that's
something
that
people
are
interested
in,
what
I
was
going
to
do
and
if
willing
to
yet
and
and
I
would
put
an
email
to
the
list
and
then
just
give
people
a
sign
up
for
what
they
want
to
demo
and-
and
you
can
repeat
like
if
two
people
want
to
do
vSphere
from
their
different
perspectives.
Or
they
could
collaborate
and
do
it
because
there's
plenty
of
time
in
the
day,
I
think.
A
But
I
think
it's
something
that
we
could
do
as
a
way
to
promote
okd
for
and
get
more
eyeballs
on
it
as
well
as
I
can
capture
content.
But
that
was
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
do
and
around
the
GA
I
am
going
to
draft.
Finally,
an
article,
not
probably
not
for
Fedora
magazine,
because
I
can't
move
that
fast
to
get
their
deadlines
in,
but
blog
posts
for
open
ship,
calm
and
I
was
going
to
ask
and
send
a
note
to
the
mailing
list.
A
If
people
were
willing
who
are
using
end
users
who
are
willing
to
or
partners
or
whomever
are
using
okay
D
to
get
supply
of
a
quote
about,
you
know:
what's
great
about
okay,
d4y
they're
thinking
about
it,
what
you
know
where
they
think
it
should
go
kind
of
thing
so
because
I
I
need
to
do
that
bit
and
the
other
thing
is
yes
Joseph.
We
are
getting
t-shirts
made
with
your
logo
on
it
and
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
send
around
a
hopefully
what'll.
A
That's
going
to
happen
is
it'll,
be
a
promo
code
where
you
can
go
put
the
promo
code
in
and
pick
the
size
and
the
style
of
the
t-shirt.
You
know
if
you
want
a
women's
or
a
baseball
shirt
or
whatever
and
print
it
and
have
its
dropship
to
you.
That's
what's
taking
long
is
because
in
Canada
there
are
some
rules
about
sending
red
across
borders
and
everything
costs
extra
duty
charges,
so
I'd
probably
pay
double
the
duty
plus
the
t-shirt.
So
those
are
the
three
things
that
I
was
I
wanted
to
bring
up.
A
Today
is
if
people
are
willing.
I
will
organize
a
live
stream
on
the
17th,
not
during
koukin
official
days,
but
during
the
day,
zero
event
and-
and
we
can
set
up
a
schedule
and
people
can
sign
up
for
different
slots
to
speak
and
I
may
reject
things
so
that
it
flows
a
little
bit
better.
But
if
you're
willing
does
anybody
on
this
call
have
a
talk
at
coop
con
coming
up?
Nobody
I
didn't
think
we
did
get
anything
in
so
well,
there's
a
little
guerilla
marketing
here
so
we'll
see
and
I'm
not
positive.
A
A
To
make
sure
that
the
producer
for
the
live
stream
is
willing
to
produce
it
all
day
and
sit
there
and
let
it
run
on
his
box,
but
if
not
I
may
just
run
it
live
stream
from
my
machine
here
on
just
onto
YouTube,
as
opposed
to
twitch
and
everything
else.
So
that's
just
live
there
or
maybe
just
an
open
blue
jeans.
Primetime
I,
don't
know
we'll
figure
out
something
but
and
so
Joseph
asking
a
couple
of
so
that's
that's
what
I
wanted
to
put
on
the
table.
A
I
will
put
it
on
the
okay
D
working
group
and
share
the
blog
post
with
folks
that
way.
I'll
do
it
not
in
my
red
hat
account,
but
with
my
email
or
2001.
Look
you
see
that
float
through.
You
can
do
that
yeah
Craig.
Nobody
heard
back
on
talks
from
pucon,
so
don't
feel
bad.
There
were
thousands
and
thousands
of
talks
submitted
for
each
of
it.
I
think.
Maybe
three
four
hundred
lot
speaking
sauce.
It
was
insane
this
time
and
it's
even
well.
D
A
Isn't
it's
like
it's
a
challenge?
It's
not
the
challenge
of
it's
easy
for
people
to
give
a
talk,
but
even
prior
to
going
to
virtual
thousands
of
people
for
each
slot
submitted,
and
it's
just
getting
even
more
crazy,
but
it's
also.
There
are
so
many
other
virtual
events
that
we
can
hit
on.
So,
if
you
see
other
virtual
events
that
you
think
we
ought
to
be
speaking
at,
let
me
know
and
I'll
see
what
I
can
do
to
get
you
in
there.
A
There's
also
I
just
spoke
with
there's
an
open-source
Friday's
thing
that
github
is
doing
and
I
was
going
to
put
this
working
group
or
this
effort.
Okay,
D
as
one
of
the
potential
projects,
it's
a
showcase
on
that
as
well,
so
Christian
watch
for
Christian
and
Vadim
and
others
watch
for
that
and
we'll
see
if
we
get
a
slot
there,
but
I
think
now
is
the
time
to
just
really
perfect
our
pitch
yeah,
so
anyways
don't
lose
track
of
as
your
support.
If
okay
D
for
a
ga
I
promise
I
want
Joseph,
okay,.
B
D
B
D
Mike,
it
is
essentially
the
same
situation
with
the
wsl
thing
as
basically
it's
this
I
don't
have
the
details
because
I
don't
work
for
Red
Hat.
So,
like
everything
is
heck,
here's
me
or
whatever
that
word
is.
It
is
basically
neither
the
Microsoft
people
nor
the
Red
Hat
people
can
like
get
in
a
room
for
an
hour
to
hammer
out
their
differences
and
kumbaya
and
sign
the
damn
thing.
Without
that
we
can't.
D
A
Circling
back
to
that
yet
so
it
I
I,
think
I
hear
the
15th
of
July
might
be
around
when
I
should
have
my
blog
post
reviewed
and
drafted
and
quotes
in
and
everything
from
people,
so
it
may
be
on
the
16th
of
July.
We
would
have
an
actual
release
of
the
GA
if
I'm
just
trying
to
get
the
timing
in
my
head,
so
you
can
nod
Christian.
If
you
think
and
beteem
do
you
think
that's
about
right?
A
A
C
D
Really
because
that's
the
the
Fedora
IOT
thing
actually
has
a
working
group
for
that
for,
but
if
we
want
to
talk
about
okay
be
related
enablement
for
arm,
then
we
would
probably
be
talking
to
the
Dora
core,
OS,
sick
and
and
doing
fedora,
Cora's
working
group,
sorry
and
and
and
deal
with
that
there
god.
We
just
need
to
use
a
consistent
name
for
all
these
things.
D
B
I've
actually
booked
some
people
inside
rats
hat
and
yeah.
Try
to
start
the
conversation
off
moving
Fedora
core
OS,
a
variety
closer
together
again
so
yeah,
it's
it's
a
long-term
thing.
I,
don't
expect
anything
to
really
happen
there
in
the
very
short
term,
but
yeah
I'll
definitely
keep
you
posted
on
any
progress
we
make
there.
There.
A
D
A
Oh
yeah
I
don't
want
to
drive
that
car,
but
anyway,
that
was
on
the
air.
Wasn't
it
so
yeah
so
there's
there
may
be
some
customers
use
cases
that
will
help
push
that
forward.
Christian,
so
ping
me
after
that
and
I'll
see.
If
I
can.
You
know
I
think
that's
what
it's
really
gonna
take
for
OpenShift
proper
you,
you
know,
put
any
resources
on
it.
Yeah.
B
A
B
A
B
There
at
that
point
we
would
also
try
to
move
but
or
a
silver/blue
to
that
same
build
system,
but
I
think
the
discussion
really
is
yeah.
It
is
still
it
and
it's
in
the
beginning,
because
we
really
need
to
decide
on
one
build
system
to
push
for
in
the
future
and
yeah.
There's
a
few
options
and
a
few
just
details
that
need
to
and
because
there's
no
coherent
story
about
our
use
cases
for
all
of
them.
Yeah
collecting
use
case
is
probably
the
best
thing
we
can
do
right
now.
A
So
it's
just
really
finding
you
know
the
resources
and
engineering
resources
to
free
up
and,
as
I
said,
really,
nothing
is
going
to
happen
until
four
point
flares
out
the
door
post
boot
con,
and
you
know
it
might
be
something
we
can
talk
about.
You
know,
as
in
the
okd
livestream
at
some
point,
get
folks
to
come
in
and
reboot
the
Fedora
containers
sake,
but
anything
else
we
need
to
touch
on
today.
I
know
this
feels
like
a
light
one,
but
we've
been.
There
was
more
testing
on
vSphere
requested.
Did
we
get
that?
E
B
B
A
A
B
D
B
A
B
Specifically
in
Fedora
core
OS,
we
already
use
it
yes,
I'm
not
mistaken,
so
and
in
redhead
core
OS,
we
still
use
if'
on
fake
files.
Oh
so
sorry
for
all
of
it
and
and
that
is
already
deprecated
in
fedora-
and
you
can't
you
can't
even
use
them
anymore
in
Fedora.
So
that's
why
we
in
this
vSphere
upî
case
they're,
actually
laying
writing
a
file
and
ifconfig
file
in
the
LCP
installer
to
the
bootstrap
host,
and
we
had
to
replace
that
in
Fedora,
core
OS,
with
the
network
manager
key
file.
B
Basically,
and
unfortunately,
we
can't
use
the
key
file
in
Red
Hat
core
OS,
yet
because
of
some
missing
functionality
in
the
in
a
dram
FS,
where
the
interface
would
would
have
to
be
activated
and
that
currently
only
works
with
I
have
conflicts
and
not
with
key
files.
So
yeah
it's
I'm
going
issue.
It's
like
it's
a
broader
topic,
but
we
resolve
it
eventually.
A
A
C
D
E
F
B
A
Okay,
so
I
do
have
a
connection
there,
and
so
do
you
Christian
and
vetting
him.
So
we'll
see
what
we
can
do
all
right.
That's
I
mean
that's
a
very
short
road
to
GA.
I
have
to
say:
is
there
anything
else?
We
should
cover
a
Christian
buddy
anyone
else,
I'm,
not
looking
at
the
chat,
so
I'm
gonna
pause
sharing
for
a
minute
back
in
the
chat.
G
E
We
GA,
we
can
build
releases
arbitrarily
and
we
can
name
them.
However,
we
want
to
the
question:
is
how
often
do
we
want
those
built
like
a
small
milestones,
because
those
would
be
effectively
promoted
nightly?
We
just
need
to
pick
and
I
schedule
for
that
and
naming
anyone
has
the
ideas
we
can
discuss
it
in.
We
can
discuss
it
today
or
we
can
file
an
issue
well.
A
A
E
A
D
B
E
E
A
D
Right,
so
we
just
be
off
by
one
in
terms
of
weeks,
so
like
the
alternate
week
would
be
when
we
push
and
that
will
that
should
keep
us
relatively
in
line
and
it's
something
if
something
goes
wrong
we
can.
We
can.
We
have
time
to
deal
with
it
before
the
next
Fedora
core
OS
snapshot,
release
gets
pushed
out.
B
A
B
So
there
has
been
some
o
that
there
is
some
ongoing
work
in
actually
pushing
the
ratchet
core
OS
config
that
is
used
to
build
redhead
core
OS
to
github.
It
resides
on
a
and
internal
repository
right
now,
just
like
the
Fedora
core
OS
config
is
is
on
github
and
as
part
of
that
that
that
is
sort
of
the
dentist's
dream,
core
OS
config,
so
sentence
with
the
recently
introduced
a
central
stream
and
the
stream
is
actually
upstream
to
RL.
B
Well
then,
you
know
downstream
is
rel
and
then
Santos
is
a
repackaging
of
rel
downstream
to
rel
and
way
downstream
of
potential
stream.
It's
a
bit
complicated,
but
so
I
think
for
us
as
a
company.
It
would
make
sense
to
build
a
santos
dream
core
OS
and
build
an
oak
ad
with
that,
and
that's
the
thing
we
have
agreed
to
to
tackle
after
ok
DGA.
A
B
D
Know
they
definitely
don't,
because
Carl
would
be
completely
clueless
about
this
conversation
right
now,
when
we
talk
about
centos
street
people,
they're
you're
muted,
when
we're
talking
about
sense
of
street
people,
there's
really
only
two
people,
Carl
George
and
Brian
Stinson
and
I
promise.
You
they're
completely
utterly
clueless
about
these
conversations
because
nobody
is
talking
to
them
about
it.
Okay,.
A
D
A
C
D
A
B
D
D
A
I'll
reach
out
to
rich
and
just
touch
bases
with
him,
because
I
know
okay
and
then
maybe
like
we're
like
I'm
thinking.
We
should
have
the
joint
meeting
with
the
Fedora
containers
sake.
Maybe
what
we
do
is
have
a
joint
meeting
with
the
Fedora
with
the
center
west
paws
cig
and
just
give
them
an
update
on
what's
coming
with,
opt
for
and
and
pause
that
conversation
for
a
minute,
because
Joseph
is
asking
a
question
about
samples
operators.
Let
me
go
back
up
to
oh.
A
D
The
samples
operator
is
the
thing
that
we
were
talking
about
filling
with
content
from
fedora
container
sick
right
now.
What
that
does
in
OCP
is
that
it's
filled
with
the
ubi
and
the
language
stack
and
the
dev
tool
set
stuff
that
that
Red
Hat
has
been
doing
with
rel
for
OCP
to
like
backfill
this,
like
this
content
base
for
developing
applications
in
openshift
for
okay
B,
we
want
to
have
a
similar
thing,
mapped
to
fedora
and
maybe
also
the
past's.
D
It
could
jump
in
and
do
some
stuff
with
CentOS
based
containers
I
believe
they
have
a
a
broken
outdated
registry
that
could
probably
be
fixed
and
then
used
for
for
hosting
this
stuff,
and
so
like.
Maybe
this
is
this
is
where,
where
the
Pasig
would
be
useful
is
being
able
to
provide
Santos
base
content
for
that
stuff,
especially
because
we
don't
have
a
sentence
stream
based
container
at
all
for
anything
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
the
modules
and
extra
streams
and
like
multi-version
content
stuff
is
coming
in,
and
so
maybe
that's
a
value.
A
D
Copper
is
fedoras,
I,
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
the
Blues
PPAs,
but
copper
is
the
equivalent
that
we
have
in
in
fedora.
It's
the
community
project,
repo
system
and
basically,
what
James
has
done
here
is
he's
just
taken
all
the
surf
bums
published
by
Red
Hat
and
then
just
pushed
them
to
be
built
on
top
of
CentOS
in
in
fedora.
Copper,
though,
like
he's
just
rebuilding
them
and
then
pushing
them
ya
know.
D
It's
also
copper,
it's
interesting
because
it
also
has
it's
actually
one
of
the
few
packaged
build
system
infrastructures
that
actually
have
support
for
integrating
with
get
supporting,
PR
workflows,
push
to
master
automatic
rebuild
stuff
like
that.
Well,
it
used
to
stand
for
cool
other
package
repo.
Now
they
call
it
community
projects
which
is
whatever
I.
D
A
D
B
D
B
H
For
this
was
so
that
I
could
build
a
center
of
a
core
OS,
because
those
dependencies
are
not
in
sent
to
us.
There
are
so
hence
I
rebuilt
them,
so
that
I
could
use
them
on
sent
to
us
and
instead
of
trying
to
rebuild
the
Fedora
packages,
I
just
rebuilt
the
OCP
packages,
because
those
are
already
not
to
work.
A
A
A
Thought
yeah:
we
had
gone
through
it
once
before,
but
yeah.
If
you
Joseph,
want
to
take
a
screenshot
of
it
and
just
mark
up
what
you
think
is
out
of
date.
I
will
happily
clean
it
up
again.
Thank
you
and
just
send
it
to
me
and
here's
my
email
address
everybody.
If
you
don't
have
it
it's
pretty
much
on
the
Internet's
everywhere,
I
think
everything
should
be
out
of
date.
I've
had
it
everything
should
be
up
to
date,
but
you
know
it
changes.
B
So
I
have
a
crazy
idea
in
case
anybody
has
time
next
week.
At
this
meeting
time
we
could
sort
of
in
an
hour
or
two
checking
everything
which
is
when
we
should
have
the
RC
release,
but
then
well
yeah.
We
shouldn't
have
the
RC
release,
probably
by
then
no
just
like
a
little
heck
act.
Hacking,
our
just
to
ID.
B
A
A
B
So
yeah
I'll
send
out
a
reminder
and
an
email
about
that.
I
mean
we.
We
should
be
expecting
too
many
issues,
but
like
yeah
documentation
things
may
they
always
slip.
So
it's
probably
good
to
just
really
read
through
the
docs
again
and
everybody
try
their
favorite
platform
install
again
and
just
collect
any
last-minute
bugs.
We
find.
A
And
I
can
just
set
up,
I
can
set
up
the
blue
jeans
and
we
can
you
can
go
as
long
as
you
want
in
it
I'll
just
next
week
same
time
same
place,
that's
great
christian.
Do
that
and
then
we
can
yeah.
Diane
will
be
here
and
then
I
will
I
might
have
to
jump
out
a
few
times
for
other
things,
but
you
can
merrily
keep
on
and
I'll
just
keep
one
machine
running
the
no
I'm
meeting.
C
E
D
D
E
What
we
could
do
is
we
were
way
for
the
signature
and
stable
for
the
records
release
to
actually
produce
us
in
your
nightly.
We
could
pick
any
run
a
few
tests
if
they
pass,
we
will
mirror
it
and
declare
it
and
our
see
we
could
do
that.
Live
and
she's
gonna
take
a
couple
of
hours
with
us
to
complete.
If
they
fail,
we
will
proceed
to
the
next
one.
In
fact,
she
could
runs
all
the
time
and
then
decide.
A
D
A
A
A
Better
than
much
better
than
commercially
printed
stuff
and
made
so
that's
it
we're
sort
of
at
the
end
of
the
hour
and
so
Christian
you're
to
do
right
away
is
to
book
that
10
o'clock
next
week
and
I
will
make
sure
I
open
it
up.
Yeah,
okay
d,
I'll,
put
a
platform
to
sale,
swag
and
Larry.
Those
were
those
resolved
ping
us
on
slack,
and
we
can
do
that.
So
there's
a
couple
of
things:
Larry,
you're
you're!
Looking
for
I
go.
We
need
to
air
anything
and
unmute
yourself
and
talk
or
not.