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OKD Working Group 2020 12 15 Vsphere Triage Feedback Full Meeting Recording
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A
And
there
is
a
new
release:
I'm
gonna
go
back
here
and
go
to
the
google
groups.
A
And
yeah,
so
there
was
a
new,
stable
release
that
was
published
a
few
days
ago
and
according
to
vadim,
this
release
should
have
all
the
necessary
fixes
to
install
upgrade
on
vsphere,
and
this
was
just
happened
on
the
12th.
So
if
you
haven't
tested
it
yet
I'm
not
holding
you
accountable,
because
today
is
just
a
few
days
after
that,
and
I
think
that
was
a
weekend
so
a
weekend
release.
But
I
think
we
have.
C
In
there
I'll
do
a
the
only
kind
of
skin
issue
is
a
little,
so
I'm
gonna
say
at
least
on
the
upgrade
side.
John,
the
installation
issue
seemed
to
be
fine.
A
The
internet's
not
been
great
today
for
so
a
few
people,
so
it's
it's
not
happy.
It
wants
to
go
on
vacation.
There's
vadim,
hey
vadim,
hello!
Before
you
start
talking
we're
gonna,
let
john
fortin
reboot
his
machine
and
come
in
on
another
machine.
But
goodwin.
Can
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
configuration
on
vsphere
we've
heard
from
bruce
and
john
previously.
D
A
See
that
valid
has
just
joined
us
too,
so
he
will
lead
I've
unmuted
everybody.
A
You
should
be
on.
You
should
be
able
to
unmute
and
turn
your
video
on.
If
you
are,
if
you
so
desire,
we're
just
getting
started,
we
have
one
person
who
had
to
reboot
and
he
should
be
back
shortly.
We'll
leave.
Can
you
tell
us
you,
I
know
malee
did
the
the
vsphere
okd
deployment
demo
a
while
back
and
do
you
have?
Are
you
running
okd
in
production
or
as
a
poc
somewhere
waleed?
And
can
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
vsphere
deployment.
E
We
are
running
openshift
in
vsphere
at
work,
and
I
wanted
to
run
okd
on
test
environment.
However,
one
of
the
supervisor
doesn't
want
to
yet
so
we
are
actually
running
just
open
shift
on
the
production,
so
the
vsphere
on
okd
environment
is
on
on
on
a
on
a
home
server
on
dell
r620
other
than
that.
A
A
Perfect
so
john
we've
just
gone
around
around
the
table
here.
If
you
could
tell
us
at
market
america
what
your
okd
deployment
looks
like
today
on
vsphere.
C
So
in
regards
to
the
4.5
4.6
or
in
general,.
C
So
we're
running
310
and
311
in
production,
but
we're
looking
at
you
know
four
five,
four
six,
you
know
four
died
x
and
you
know
to
migrate
first
quarter,
so
did
a
successful,
4.5
install.
You
know
a
couple
of
glitches
that
vadim
helped
me
through,
but
the
four
six
was
problematic
and
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks
I
think
we
fixed
all
those.
I
did
successful
upgrades
and
fresh
installs
over
the
weekend
with
the
new
release
from
that
third
day
was
that
the
12th?
C
Well,
whatever
whatever
day
the
12th
was-
and
that
was
that
was
really
successful.
The
only
issue-
and
I
just
hate
to
call
it
an
issue
because
I
I
don't
know
the
cause
actually
two
issues.
One
is
vm's
not
turning
on
by
themselves,
but
that
just
turn
them
on.
C
We
don't
know
if
that's
a
infrastructure
issue
in
my
end
or
if
there's
something
else
going
on
and
we're
sort
of
discussing
that,
but
also
the
network
stack,
seems
to
get
really
busy
after
a
four
or
five
to
four
six
install
but
other
than
that.
Everything
I've
seen
so
far
has
been
very,
very
clean.
A
And
I
see
that
jamie
just
just
joined
us
from
umich
and
so
jamie,
I'm
going
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
If
you
can
unmute
yourself
we're
making
everybody
go
around
and
talk
through
what
their
vsphere
okd
deployment
looks
like
at
the
moment.
So
if
you're.
F
Sure
so
I
am
at
the
moment
in
the
process
of
just
about
to
rebuild
my
46
with
the
latest
release
that
came
out
the
other
day.
I
have
not
yet,
and
basically
I
got
burned
by
the
hostname
issue.
Last
time
I
attempted
to
build
so
I
had
an
incomplete
build,
so
my
goal
this
time
will
be
a
complete,
build.
A
Awesome
awesome
so,
thanks
and
and
that
that
got
us
up
to
speed,
I
think
on
on
where
everybody's
at
vadim,
if
I
I
think
goodrun
is
I
I
haven't
seen
goodren
on
this
call
before,
but
if
vadim,
if
you
could
give
an
update
on
the
the
latest
release
and
what
that
issue
was
in
case
she's
seen
that
and
then
maybe
we
can
and
I'll
let
mike
run
a
round
table.
We
could
talk
about
other
issues
you
might
have
or
wishlist
things
and
feedback.
G
Sure
so,
when
we
first
released
like
a
d46,
there's
been
a
bunch
of
changes
introduced
by
fedor
33
content,
most
of
them
have
been
related
to
dns
resolution.
However,
by
now
all
the
issues
I
think
have
been
fixed,
so
you
can
now
successfully
install
and
upgrade.
As
john
has
mentioned
today,
there
has
been
quite
a
lot
of
changes
in
for
six,
though
as
well,
which
is
a
decent
networking
from
ovn.
That's,
basically
an
open,
ocp
bug.
We
filed
this
in
brazil,
we're
waiting
for
natural
folks
to
pick
it
up.
G
So
in
order
to
fix
that,
we
need
a
release,
which
has
this
bug
fixed
and
also
all
images
were
built,
probably
not
going
to
happen
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
because
it's
quite
a
lot
of
effort.
So
we
that's
the
first
thing
we'll
fix
in
in
the
new
year.
Unfortunately,.
G
It's
an
ocp
wide
issue
with
hits
okay
the
most,
but
you
still
can
release
ocp
because
internally,
we
rebuild
all
components
using
older
clusters.
So
this
time
they
are
lucky.
But
again
it's
a
pretty
huge
issue.
It's
just
gonna
take
some
some
time
to
actually
get
it
fixed
another
medium
size.
Let's
say
issues
that
our
cluster
signature
keys
have
been
financially
updated
behind
our
backs.
G
I
have
a
fix
to
push
it,
but
the
next
couple
of
releases
next
two
table
releases
probably
would
have
to
be
updated
without
the
signature
verification.
We
have
steps
how
to
do
this
manually,
but
in-cluster
verification
is
messed
up
because
it
uses
official
red
hat
keys
instead
of
the
okay
specific
keys.
But
these
are
the
largest
problem.
I've
seen
so
far.
There
are
a
couple
of
unexplained
problems
like
openshift.
G
Api
server
hangs
up
on
upgrade,
but
we
don't
have
a
clear
producer
and
it's
also
affecting
ocp
meaning
it
will
get
a
bit
more
attention.
I
think
that's
all
I
have
for
the
status.
I
don't
know
of
any
these
here.
Specific
problems.
John
has
hit
a
couple,
but
we
don't.
We
can't
produce
them
on
our
ci
so
really
hard
to
find
out
what's
wrong.
G
A
Okay,
so
this
this
meeting
is
for
vsphere
people,
so
we
wanted
to
hear
from
you
about
any
issues
or
feedback
or
things
that
you
are
running
into.
So
I
would
like
to
open
open
the
floor,
and
the
only
thing
that
I
was
thinking
since
we
have
walid
here
is
is
asking
the
question:
is
the
demo
that
walid
did
deploying
vsphere
that
we
recorded
for
the
okd
deployment
marathon?
A
Does
that
change
drastically
in
any
way
shape
or
form?
In
other
words,
should
we
redo
a
deployment
video
for
vsphere
to
help
people
out,
and
is
it
possible
to
create
a
vsphere
deployment
recipe
that
that's
the
the
one
thing
that
that
I
was
curious
about
from
other
folks
here.
F
So
I
have
a
upi
recipe.
That's
going
up.
I
think
I
shared
it
with
you
last
week.
It's
almost
done
we'll
be
done
in
the
next
couple
days.
Ipi,
it
probably
would
be
helpful
still
to
have
someone
do
an
ipi
version
of
the
vsphere
install
video.
So
I
can
do
a
video
and
I
can
do
the
recipe
for
upi,
but
I
think
ipi
would
be
helpful
as
well.
E
We
couldn't
get
the
api
working
okay,
but
it
was
the
it
was
the
at
that
time.
It
was
just
the
ipi
was
just
working
so
maybe
now
with
4.6.
I
need
to
give
it
a
try.
Okay,.
A
Well,
if,
if
you
can
do
that
in
the
next
week
or
so
and
give
us
your
feedback,
I
I
promise
not
to
go
on
holidays
until
the
20th
of
december
here
and
and
post
it
to
the
working
group.
That
would
be
great,
and
that
would
be.
That
would
be
very
helpful
and
I'm
just
adding
the
issues
here.
A
I
mean
that
for
me
that
that's
those
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
that
I
worry
about
is
sort
of
the
community
lead
is
to
make
sure
that
the
instructions
are
there.
So
someone
coming
in
like
goodwin
or
elsewise
has
the
tools
and
the
documentation
to
do
what
they
need
to
do,
and
maybe
a
blog
post
or
something
like
that.
On
on
this
new
release,
I
think
now
it's
safe
to
do
vedim
a
blog
post
about
the
46,
or
do
you
should?
I
still
wait
until
those
images
are
ready.
A
Don't
mind
waiting
because
basically
it's
more
work
for
me.
So
that's
I'm
fine
with
that.
H
But
I
have
a
couple
questions
about
the
ipi
recipe
stuff
that
we
just
brought
up
so,
like
I
mean
in
general,
like
the
ipi
installs
should
be
fairly
boring.
You
know
kind
of
start
the
command
line
and
let
it
go
in
terms
of
creating
like
a
recipe
or
materials
for
people.
What
you
know
what
what
is
kind
of
the
expectation
here
or
do
you
want
to
document
how
vsphere
is
configured
and
then
you
run
ipi
on
top
of
it
or
what?
What
are
we
kind
of
looking
for
there.
A
Well,
I
put
that
to
the
group
is
like
what
is
most
useful:
an
ipi
generic
one
or
a
vsphere
generic
one
with
ipi
layered.
On
top
sorry,
that's
okay,
that
that's
that's
really
up
to
the
group
here.
I
I'm
not
the
arbitrary
or
trader
of
what
should
be
in
a
recipe.
C
Well,
I
ipi
itself
is
relatively
easy.
The
the
interesting
parts
are
when
you
set
up
config
file
and
if
you
want
to
do
something
like
change
the
default,
cpu
and
memory
and
stuff
and
the
documentation
online
is
fairly
good,
but
you
know
somebody
going
through
and
actually
doing
that
you
know
as
a
video
would,
you
know
would
probably
be
helpful
for
people
that
are
doing
it
for
the
first
time.
They're
talking
about
you
know
the
dns
requirements.
In
fact
they
have
to
have
you
know
the
api
and
the
the.
C
I'm
sorry
my
mind
just
went
blank
the
wild
card
dns,
you
know
for
stuff
for
the
ingress,
I'm
talking
about
a
little
bit
because
some
people
going
to
like
I
don't
know
what
that
means.
C
So
I
think
that
would
be
one
out
from
a
general
point
of
view
from
anybody
using
sick
or
ford
whatever,
but
for
vsphere
in
particular,
from
an
ipi
side.
H
Yeah-
and
I
you
know,
I,
the
expectation
for
upi,
I
think,
is
really
diff.
You
know
we
could
make
a
video
about
it,
but
it's
gonna
be
different
for
everybody.
I
think
you
know
something
like
an
ipi
video,
and
you
know
I'm
just
thinking
about
this
from
the
issues
that
we
see
you
know
hearing
what
users
are
saying
and
whatnot,
like,
I
think,
there'd
be
a
lot
of
value
in
being
able
to
first
lay
out
what
the
expectation
for
an
ipi
install
is
like.
H
H
How
do
you
set
up
whatever
configuration
on
the
outside
allows
you
to
point
to
your
vsphere
cluster,
because
one
once
all
that's
set
up,
you
know
the
installer
should
set
up
the
load
balancers
for
you
and
everything
like
every
you
know
once
you've
got
it
to
the
cluster.
The
installer
should
do
all
that
work
for
you.
H
I
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
you
need
to
clearly
describe
the
permissions
required
too,
because
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
didn't
do
ipi,
like
our
you
know,
like
my
server,
is
one
of
a
whole
bunch
all
running
vsphere
and
my
admins.
Don't
want
me
to
touch
it
really
at
that
level,
and
if
I
could
you
know
if
I
could
have
given
them
a
set
of
well,
these
are
the
permissions
I
need.
C
I
Exactly
yeah
last,
unless
I
look
was
in
july
and
there
were
some
things
there,
but
it
wasn't
clear
that
they
were
comprehensive.
E
C
Well,
then,
being
able
to
create
vms
and
all
that
other
kind
of
stuff-
and
you
know
so
you
have
to
have
you
know
particular
pieces
of
you-
know
authorization
to
be
able
to
do
that.
The
easiest
is
just
to
have
an
admin
id,
but
you
know
if
you
can
get
a
user,
that's
given
all
those
pieces,
it
should
work.
It
worked
for
me,
but
I
don't
know
if
my
admins
gave
me
extra
stuff.
I
gave
them
what
I
needed.
They
gave
me
an
id.
F
E
E
A
I
think
I
think
what
the
context
of
a
recipe,
though,
is
to
have
the
video,
but
then
to
also
have
all
of
the
links
all
of
these
things
that
people
are
talking
about
in
some
in
the
recipe,
so
that
that's.
I
love
the
videos
because
they're
great
and
they're
useful,
but
if
you
don't
have
the
the
documentation.
A
Have
difficulty
tracing
down
some
of
these
bits
so
just
yeah.
A
H
A
Yeah,
I
I
I'm
learning
camtasia
camtasia
is
pretty
good,
but
it's
sort
of
the
ms
paint
of
video
editing,
but
I
I
think
if,
if
jamie,
if
you
can
create
some,
you
know
a
short,
the
short
video
and
the
recipe
to
go
along
with
it.
I
will
happily
make
the
and
make
a
pr
request
to
the
okd.io
site
I
and
wherever
you
host
it.
A
F
Yeah
it's
in
it's
in.
Actually,
I
think
it's
in
a
you
mystery
book,
but
I
can
put
it
in
the
umich
repo
either
way.
A
Yeah,
either
way
so
other
than
other
than
that.
A
You
get
you're
living
a
real
life.
You've
got
real
people
in
your
house,
yeah.
A
That's
great
okay,
so
if
are
there
other
things
that
are
stopping
you,
I
mean
a
walid
and
I
this
probably
isn't
a
vsphere
specific
thing,
but
you
mentioned
that
your
management
didn't
want
to
deploy
okd.
Yet
is
that
just
because
it's
hasn't
been
mature
and
stable
for
a
while
or
because
it's
the
open
source
stuff
or
what
were
the
were
there?
Any
things
that
we
can
help
with
that.
E
They
are
interested
on
the
on
the
operators,
and
I
mentioned
that.
I
cannot
guarantee
that
all
operators
that
will
be
one-to-one
availability
in
okidi
as
their
open
shift.
G
To
answer
this
point,
there
are
two
types
of
operators
in
okd
which
you
can
install
so
the
first
one
is
shipped
right
in
our
release.
Payload
and
release
payload
for
okd
is
exactly
the
same
as
it
is
for
ocp,
except
some
tweaks.
We
need
to
do.
For
instance,
machine
config
operator
is
slightly
tweaked
to
work
with
fedora
cross
and
samples
operator
is
tweaked
to
ship
community
samples.
G
So
that's
the
first
part.
These
are
identical,
but
some
parts
are
slightly
different,
because
the
dark
res
is
a
little
different
than
arcos,
and
then
there
is
optional
operators
light
by
olm,
and
here
is
the
difference,
because
ogde
is
shipping
with
community
operators
enabled
only
and
ocps
shipping,
with
both
sources
like
red,
hat
and
community
available.
Only,
however,
in
okd,
if
you
have
a
validable
secret,
you
can
enable
both
of
them.
We
have
this
documented
in
in
faq
and
well
yeah.
There's
the
there's
a
difference.
G
These
two
sources
are
controlled
by
you.
If
you
don't
want
to
use
a
pull
secret
from
red
hat,
you
will
have
just
the
community
operators
if
you
know
what
you're
doing
and
you
have
a
valid
full
secret.
You
can
enable
both
sources
and
there
is
no
secret
source
which
we
hide
somewhere
in
in
os2p.
That's
that's
the
story.
G
I
would
be
more
concerned
about
questions
of
support,
but
there
is
not
much
we
can
do
on
a
getty
site,
it's
community
supported
and
it's
just
not
gonna
change
ever
other
than
that
there
shouldn't
be
any
difference.
If
there
is
it's
about
which
we're
about
to
fix
like
bare
metal
support,
for
instance,.
G
G
Officially,
it
needs
to
go
through
legal,
but
if
you're
using
it
for
your
personal
sources,
definitely
not
gonna
going
to
bother
anyone
and
if
you're
using
it
for
testing,
it's
definitely
not
going
to
be
a
threat,
but
the
problem
is
that
the
gray
area
here
is
that
if
you
would
run
okd
with
red
hat
support,
secret
and
redheads
official
supported
operators
on
production,
this
probably
a
gray
area.
You
would
need
to
clarify
that
with
I
don't
know
with
legal
or
somebody
else,
I
don't
think
anybody
has
tried
that
so
far,.
C
C
I
have
a
question
and
I
haven't-
I
haven't
been
asked
this
by
management
yet,
but
I'm
I'm
almost
expecting
it
with
with
the
announcement
that
red
hat
has
made
with
centos
and
how
they're
changing
centos-
and
you
know
the
fact
that
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
are
using
pentose
in
production
and
stuff
like
that.
C
Is
there
a
concern,
or
should
there
be
a
concern
that
the
same
type
of
thing
that
could
happen
with
okd?
You
know
versus
your
regular
open
shift
as
centos
versus
rel.
A
I
think
we
we're
talking
apples
and
oranges.
A
You
can
hear
it
from
me:
it
may
be
mandarin
oranges.
Even
very
it's.
A
very
different
relationship
between
the
two
products
than
rel
is
to
centos
and
centos
stream
is
to
to
rail,
might
be
closer
to
what
okd
is
to
open
shift
in
some
ways.
We
always
talk
about
okd
as
being
the
sibling
open
source
upstream,
not
quite
upstream
to
ocp.
A
So
it
is
that
the
issue
for
us,
I
think,
is
that
okd
lags
behind
ocp,
and
so,
if
and
we've
had
this
conversation
at
the
last
okd
working
group,
if
you
wanted
to
contribute
to
openshift
and
okd
you're,
always
kind
of
contributing
to
the
prior
release
or
trying
that
that's
more
of
our
our
issue,
rather
than
the
the
centos
relationship
to
rel
issue,
it's
it's
it's
apples
and
oranges.
It's
not
the
same
thing
you
you
you'll
always
have
that
can
go
ahead.
Jamie.
F
So
I
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
doing
is
I've
been
actually
using
it
as
an
opportunity
to
promote
fedora
core
os
and
promote
okd.
F
Basically,
folks
are
saying:
well,
we've
been
using
this
in
university
setting
for
research
machines
for
cluster
nodes,
etc,
and
so
what
I've
been
doing
is
sort
of
pivoting
on
that
and
saying.
Well,
if
you
have
fedora
core
os,
you
can
run
these
things
in
containers
and
get
that
same
sort
of
isolated
functionality
that
researchers
like,
for
particular
libraries,
etc.
F
And
if
you
want
to
go
the
cluster
route
instead
of
doing
hpc
stuff
with
centos
nodes,
you
could
actually
do
an
okd
cluster
with
fedora
core
os
nodes
and
run
matlab
jobs
run
like
whatever
it
is
that
you
want
to
do
actually
in
containers,
so
I've
actually
been
taking
it
as
an
opportunity
and
I'll
I'll
forward
to
the
community
email
list,
an
email
that
I
sent
out
about
this
last
week,
that
maybe
you
can
give
folks
some
talking
points
not
to
promote.
F
B
A
Make
you
co-author
that
blog
post
with
me,
so
I
think
that
that's.
That
is
the
position,
though,.
G
There
is
also
another
significant
difference
that
you
know:
qt
everything
is
controlled
by
the
cluster
itself
and
if
you
make
an
lcd
snapshot,
you
can
revert
back
to
whatever
state
you
have
and
using
rpm
ios
3.
You
can
revert
your
post
back
to
whatever
state
you
have
so
this
is
why
we're
not
really
bothering
with
publishing
versions
of
kernel
and
exact
list
of
rpms
we're
shipping
in
every
okd
release.
If
you're
hitting
a
problem,
you
probably
should
revert
and
we'll
look
into
that
later
on.
G
That
has
hit
us
a
lot
during
45
to
46
upgrade,
but
that's
how
it
works.
We
don't
have
to
bother
with
kernel
api
and
stability,
things
which
we
do.
We
have
ci
which
ensures
that
and
if
you're
hitting
a
problem
during
upgrade,
one
of
your
masters
may
go
broken,
but
we
have
ways
how
to
revert
it
back
to
stable
position
report
the
block
and
move
on
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
singles
centos
machine
upgrading
from
one
version
to
the
other,
so
we're
much
more
safer
in
this
regard.
When
we're
having
a
full
cluster.
C
F
Okay,
so
I'm
throwing
a
bug
for
fedora
core
os
in
here,
because
it
it
seems
to
affect
check
that
out
in
the
chat
it
seems
to
affect
vsphere
folks.
I've
had
it
happen
to
me
a
couple
times
when
booting
up
nodes.
So
if
you
run
into
this
folks
when
you're
doing
ipi
or
upi,
let
me
know
this
is
I
o
control
issue
that
pops
up
and
then
sometimes,
if
you
reboot,
the
node
it'll
work,
fine
or
not.
F
F
F
Yeah
and
if
you
reboot
again,
it
tends
to
be
okay.
I've
had
one
where
I
had
to
reboot
like
three
times
and
then
the
note
finally
booted
properly.
So
I'll
do
some
debugging
next
time
it
happens,
but
I
thought
it
was
good
that
someone
else
had
the
same
experience,
and
so
I
was
kind
of
happy
to
see
this.
G
G
F
G
G
I'm
sure
it's
a
great
idea
to
have
one
umbrella
issue
for
everything,
but
that's
at
least
the
start,
at
least
something
we
could
point
to
other
people
and
have
a
workaround
that
you
just
need
to
reboot.
It's
it's
pretty
bad,
but
it's
not
like
end
of
the
world.
F
G
Yeah,
probably
that's
a
good
idea:
we
should
have
a
list
of
known
issues,
I'm
trying
to
keep
a
list
of
banned
issues
in
okd
updated,
but
there's
only
three
and
apparently
ogde
is
becoming
more
and
more
widespread.
So
we
have
many
many
more
yeah
having
a
list
of
known
bugs,
which
people
actively
hit
every
day,
probably
a
better
idea
than
me
trying
to
to
find
out
how
widespread
each
bug
we
get.
So,
let's
start
with
that,
yeah.
H
Yeah,
I
think
that
the
tough
part
is
we
need
like.
We
need
some
sort
of
like
living
list
right.
You
know
that
go
that
or
a
list
that
can
kind
of
live
with
each
version,
release
or
whatever.
A
Can
we
use
the
the
projects
page?
The
community
project
is
a
way
to
track
those
I
mean
so
that
we're
not
that
we
have
a
link
to
them.
I
can
create
in
if
that's
there,
what
what
works
best
for
you
vadim,
to
see
them
and
to
review
them.
I
don't
want
to
create
more
issues.
I
just
want
to
have
a
in
my
mind.
I
just
want
to
have
a
list
of
them
that
we
have
links
to
elsewhere.
G
A
If
you
create
an
empty
one,
I
will
happily
promote
that
or
and
promote
it
on
the
mailing
list,
I'll
happily
promote
that
theory
at
the
the
next
okd
working
group
and
in
between.
If
that
works
for
folks,
I
just
like
my
community
page,
an
addiction
to
it
other
things
I
know
I
could.
A
A
D
A
Put
all
the
notes
from
today
into
the
main
okd
working
group
meeting,
so
this
is
not
so
people
will
have
visibility
of
it
as
a
guest
has
just
joined
us,
but
that
could
be
anybody.
That's
james,
hi
james.
I
willie.
You
said
one
thing
in
in
passing:
really
quickly
that
caught
my
attention:
odh
open
data
hub
on
okd,
and
I
do
not
know
if
we've
tested
it
on
a
deployment
of
open
data
hub
on
okd.
A
Yet
so
I
will
see
if
I
can
find
someone
in
the
odh
team
to
talk
about
that
in
an
upcoming
working
group
or
on
the
mailing
list.
At
least
there
is
a
a
g
chat
internal
channel
for
that.
So
someone
I.
A
I
would
guess
that
someone
has
already
done
it,
but
I'm
not
sure
whether
they've
done
it
on
vsphere
or
what
the
configuration
is
so
I'll,
try
and
hook
you
up
with
that,
and
maybe
even
do
some
sort
of
briefing
on
that,
because
that
would
be
a
good
thing
on
january
28th,
I'm
doing
a
openshift
commons
gathering
on
data
science
and
the
open
data
hub
folks
will
be
there
in
in
in
mass.
Shall
we
say
so
if
you
see
that
fly
through
your
your
radar,
that's
a
a
good
place.
A
Also
to
ask
that
question
and
to
see
see
what
they're
doing
and
I'll
try
and
get
them
to
address
that
in
their
their
slide
deck
on
their
demos
as
well.
Maybe
I
could
even
make
them
demo
it
on
okd,
though
that
probably
is
a
lot
to
ask
as
the
christmas
holidays
are
coming
up-
and
I
bet
their
demos
are
all
fully
baked
already
and
they're
off
baking
gingerbread.
Instead.
D
H
A
I
I
don't
know,
I
can't
imagine-
and
I
there's
something
tickling,
the
back
of
my
brain-
that
that
somebody's
already
done
a
demo
of
odh
on
okd,
and
I
have
to
look
through
the
three
or
four
hundred
videos
that
we've
recorded
this
past
year
and
see
if
somebody
did
that
already
and
get
that
to
you.
If
that
helps
move
you
forward,
I
know
james.
Is
you
just
it
that
that
would
help?
A
I
think
that
would
be
good
one,
the
other,
and
I
think
the
other
thing,
the
other
people
that
I'm
going
to
try
and
get
in
here,
but
they're
not
running
on
the
vsphere.
That's
I
was
thinking
about
cern
they're
on
openstack.
E
I
don't
think
it
matters
the
infrastructure
what
mattered
at
that
time.
It
was
the
latest
version
I
believe,
was
0.7
and
until
0.7
the
the
open
data
hub
was
not
supporting
offline,
restricted
network
installation.
Okay.
So
when
you
have
when
you
pull
basically
your
operator
open,
open
data
hub,
you
will
not
see
you
will
not
see
any
actually
artificial,
aiml
operators
at
all
there,
but
I
thought
there
was
a
github
issue
and
I
saw
that
they
started
working
on
it.
A
Well,
if
you
can
dig
up
the
the
github
issue
and
throw
it
in
the
chat,
okay,
I
will
track
it
down
and
james
if
you
wanted
james
castle,
just
joined
so
cat.
If
you
have
a
vsphere,
specific
and
james,
I
know
you're,
I'm
pretty
sure,
you're
a
red
hatter,
so
you're,
probably
just
listening
in
but
we're
making
everybody
introduce
themselves.
So
if
you
want
to
do
so
or
if
you
don't
have
a
microphone.
A
Nope
he
doesn't
want
to
introduce
himself,
that's
okay,
introverts
are
welcome,
and
so
there's
so
we've
got
about
12
minutes
left.
Are
there
other
vsphere
or
even
generic
4.6
questions
you
guys
are
having.
I
Yeah,
can
I
ask
a
couple
of
questions?
Please
then
yeah
so
just
because
I
seem
to
be
like
I
did.
I
guess
yesterday
tee
up
the
upgrade
from
4.5
to
4.6
and
went
through.
I
Actually
I
did
it
from
the
console
and
I
didn't
have
any
trouble
with
the
I
didn't
have
to
force
it
or
anything
it
just
you
know
started
right
away,
no
problem
and
it
went.
You
know
relatively
through
updated
anything.
The
machine,
config
ones
seem
to
always
be
at
the
end,
and
then
it
will
go
back
and
do
a
lot
of
networking
things
at
the
same
time
and
the
everything
was
going
smoothly
until
the
very
end
where
one
of
the
worker
nodes
was.
I
I
So
that's
okay.
It
then
the
net
result
was
that
I
lined
up
with
three
control
plane
and
five
compute
and
all
of
them
are,
you
know,
successfully
upgraded,
except
for
the
one
compute
which
is
now
ready,
scheduling,
disabled,
okay,
so
that
seems
reasonable
and
then
but
subsequent
to
that,
then
all
then
my
cluster
operators
had
all
been
available.
I
The
I
can't
get
into
the
machine
from
outside
the
only
thing
that
works
at
the
moment
is
with
the
the
original
admin
e
and
I
can
get
into
it
from
a
machine.
That's
on
the
cluster,
and
I
would
have.
I
guess
hope
that
if
that
losing
one
worker
node
wouldn't
have
such
a
big
impact,
especially
since
it's
managed
to
realize
that
it
shouldn't
schedule
it
you
know.
So
I
would
have
thought
that
everything
else
would
be
up
and
and
running
fine,
but
that
wasn't
the
case.
G
D
G
Is
complete?
There
is
an
odd
issue
with
openshift
api
server,
which
is
critical.
I
think
let
me
find
it.
G
Yeah
so
395.
this
one
may
bring
down
a
lot
of
operators
and
it's
usually
because
openshift
apa
server
gets
stuck
for
some
reason.
I
don't
think
it
has
a
workaround
right
now,
but
it
certainly
affects
ocp
as
well.
So
I
suggest.
G
We
could
we
could
start
with
filing
a
bug
to
okiti.
We
need
must
gather,
which
is
probably
I
don't
know,
hopefully
you'll
be
able
to
collect
it.
I
Well,
I
just
did
click
I
just
I
just
did
collect
one,
and
I
was
just
looking
at.
I
was
doing
it
while
we
were,
we
were
talking
and
it.
You
know
there
were
a
number
of
of
services
that
weren't
available
as
it
was
going
through
well,
but
it
did
gather
a
lot
of
stuff.
It
looks
like
in
retrospect
so
yeah,
so
I
have
a
must
gather.
G
Cool,
if
you
could
have
a
look
into
details
of
openshift
api
server,
if
it
still
throws
503
for
everything,
that's
probably
the
bug
we're
talking
about
and.
G
Yeah,
it
should
be
somewhere
in
namespaces,
openshift.
I
Oh,
no,
I'm
happy
to
look
so
in
the
the
quay
open
shift.
Musketeer
older.
Let
me
just
go
there.
I
suppose.
B
I
Operator
so
so,
which
the
api.
G
I
G
G
I
I
I
I
Okay,
the
api
server
something
yaml
fix:
audit
permissions,
openshift
api
server,
openshift
api
server
check
endpoints.
So
so
I'm
in
one
of
the
pods,
where,
where
should
I
go
next?.
G
G
I
I
Percent,
okay,
so
let's
see
so
then
transport
is
closing
before
that
handle
subcon
state
change
and
switching
balancer
to
pick
first
and
then
earlier.
There's
transports
closing
and
I'm
just
looking.
So
what
should
I
look
for.
G
G
G
A
I
F
F
Is
there
anything
else
that
folks
want
to
bring
up
before
we
disband,
while
he's
doing
that,
yeah.
I
I
So
at
the
now
from
the
other
chat,
what
it
sounded
like
it
might
be
worth
rebooting
the
worker
node
just
see
what
happens,
but
it
sounds
like
that
is
unlikely
to
change
anything.
So
I
should
just
wait
or.
I
H
I
H
Right
right,
so
you
already
have
you're.
You
have
a
worker
node
right,
that's
in
a
bad
state
right
now,
but
the
cluster
still
has
that
worker
node
attached
to
a
machine
set
right
like
so.
I
think
so,
so
you
could
get
the
machine
object.
You
know
from
the
openshift
machine
api
namespace
and
then
you
could
delete
that
machine
object.
H
A
All
right
folks,
we're
we're
at
the
top
of
the
hour
and
it
sounds
like
this
was-
was
useful
to
do
and
and
so
if
we
want
to
do
another
one
sometime,
maybe
quarterly
or
something
like
that
be
sphere
specific
or
when
the
need
arrives.
I'm
happy
to
do
that,
especially
on
the
opposite
week
of
the
actual
working
group.
This
fits
into
my
time
slot
to
host.
A
If
you
have
other
questions
I'll
post,
the
video
and
the
links
in
the
notes
into
the
the
google
group
probably
later
today,
I've
got
to
catch
up
on
a
couple
of
other
videos
from
working
groups.
So
I'm
behind.
I
think
two
now
so
we'll
get
that
going.
But
if
there's
anything,
if
this
was
useful,
was
that
useful
to
everybody
to
to
do
this?
There
weren't
as
many
vsphere
people,
as
I
thought,
coming
into.
D
A
Forefront
a
lot
of
the
usual
suspects
so
other
than
goodrun,
who
I
I
don't
think
I've
heard
her
speak
up
before
so
I'm
happy
to
have
you
here
and
we'll
we'll
do
it
again
as
needed
how's
that.
A
Cool
and
well
I'm
going
to
share
this
with
the
the
pm's
a
couple
of
pms,
maria
bronco
and
andrew
sullivan
as
well,
so
they
can
listen
in
to
our
chatter
and
hopefully
move
some
some
of
the
other
vsphere
customers
forward
too.
So,
thanks
for
your
input
today,.
H
Yeah
I
mean
if
this,
if
this
becomes
popular,
I
wonder
if
we
might
yeah,
we
might
think
about
just
having
like
an
okd
provider
this
hour,
people
could
just
come
and
ask
provider
questions
or
something
or
bring
up
their
issue.
I
mean
we
probably
don't
need
one
for
every
provider,
but
like
a
general
session,
just
about
provider
topics
would
probably
be
worthwhile.
H
A
No,
I
think
I
think
you're
right,
there's
there's
something
to
this.
So
we'll
talk
about
it
again
at
the
next
okd
working
group
and
see
if
we
want
to
have
like
a
subgroup
or
something
a
reoccurring
meeting,
but
I'm
happy
to
do
so.
So
thanks
again
everybody
for
joining
and
if
I
don't
see
you
again
have
a
great
holiday
break
and
now
I've
got
my
notification
after
yeah
james
welcome
to
my
world
times
time
changes.
So
I
you
you
should
have
been
me
like
three
weeks
ago
when
it
first
changed.
A
I
missed,
I
think,
two
meetings
in
a
row
with
the
wrong
time
so,
but
luckily
charo
chimed
in
and
covered
my
covered
for
me,
I
don't
feel
bad
anyways
if
this
becomes
a
reoccurring,
one
we'll
put
it
in
the
fedora
calendar.
So
thanks
everybody
and
take
care.