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From YouTube: OKD Working Group 2021 04 06 Docs Meeting Recording
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OKD Working Group 2021 04 06 Docs Meeting Recording
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/okd-wg
https://okd.io
https://github.com/openshift/community/projects/3
A
The
docs
meeting
hey
mike
and
jamie
thanks
for
coming,
I'm
just
gonna,
throw
the
notes
here
and
the
note
stock
here
somewhere,
okay,
the
working
group
just
add
your
name,
if
you
don't
mind
as
you
join,
but
we
can
sort
of
formalize
a
little
bit
more
these
meetings,
I
haven't
been
doing
that
other
than
recording
them.
A
So
I
wanted
to
do
that
and
then
share
quickly
just
share
my
screen,
so
we
have
the
the
agenda
in
the
video
for
people
who
want
to
follow
along
via
the
agenda,
and
I
had
really
only
one
item
here
today.
I'm
sure
I
should
have
more,
but
it
was
really
an
update
on
the
migration
of
the
guides
and
the
the
template
creation
and
the
status
of
the
the
guides
repo,
that's
in
el
maiko's
repo
and
whether
or
not
we
can
move
it
to
okd.ios
anytime
soon.
A
B
A
B
A
Welcome
I
just
put
the
the
docs
meeting.
It
may
be
a
very
short
meeting,
because
not
a
lot
of
work
got
done
because
everybody
was
working
on
other
things.
This
past.
C
Yeah,
I
can
understand
that
I
did.
I
did
put
up
a
taxonomy
in
slack,
I
made
it.
I
made
it
jiff
and
or
whatever
those
were
called
just.
A
A
Can
you
share
the
just
link
here?
I
think.
A
And
I'll
add
it
in
find
it,
because
that
might
be
a
good
thing
to
chat
about
for
a
few
minutes,
because
from
the
update
from
jamie,
we
haven't
really
moved
the
needle
forward
this
week,
so
I'm
sure
you're
all
moving
those
needles
in
other
spaces.
So
I'm
not
too
worried
about
it.
C
B
Was
the
person
last
that
was
in
the
meeting
last
well
two
weeks
ago?
I
guess
it
would
be
who
actually
wrote
up,
not
the
taxonomy,
but
someone
else
wrote
up
yeah,
so
I
didn't
catch
who
that
was.
Actually,
I
just
saw
something
posted
in
the
chat
that
they
did
like
sketches.
Basically
with
like
stick
people
and
stuff
like
that,.
A
Oh
my
gosh
eric
here
yeah.
If
you
have
the
link
to
that,
throw
that
in
the
chat
too.
Let's
see
if
I
can
find
that
and
we'll
take
up,
take
a
look
at
that
and
that
so
maybe
we'll
take
a
look
at
the
taxonomy.
A
I
know
jamie
you're
going
to
do
a
little
bit
of
work
on
it
this
week
and
we'll
see
if
we
can
move
the
needle
and
get
that
over
into
the
okd
work.
I
think
the
blog
post
went
out
and
I've
gotten
some
good
feedback
from
product
managers
and
other
people
around
the
work
that
we're
doing
here.
A
The
other
thing
and
I'll
bring
it
up
at
the
okd
working
group.
While
we're
sitting
here
waiting
for
bruce
to
find
his
gist
file.
A
C
Yeah
but
it
should
be
possible
to
get
it
from
github
right.
D
A
Mention
and
ask
people's
opinion
of
there
is
some
work
around
the
ocp
nightlys.
Can
any
of
you
use
the
ocp
nightlys,
not
the
okd
ones,
but
the
ocp
nightly,
or
anybody
on
this
call.
Do
it
using
that
yet
just
the
okd
nightlys.
B
Okay
is
the
is
the
idea
that
the
oc
that
there
is
a
need
for
more
ocp
nightly
testers
or
what.
A
What's
motivating
your
question
what's
motivating
my
question
is:
is
people
looking
for
other
people
to
test
the
ocp
nightlys,
which
would
mean
at
that
point
at
this
point
in
time
they
have
to
use
our
as
our
rel
coreos.
So
I'm
just
looking
to
hear
what
people
and
I
know,
because
mike
you're
inside
of
red
hat,
so
you
have
all
the
subscriptions
to
anything
you
need.
So
that's
that's
a
different.
I
was
just
curious
and
I'll
ask
again
next
week
too,
just
just
to
get
people's
feedback
on
who's
who's.
A
Looking
at
that
stuff,
I
can.
A
We're
looking
at
building
a
community
of
like
some
sort
of
community
hub
for
people
who
do
that
work,
so
I
was
just
looking
for
out
external
to
red
hat,
so
something
different
from
okd.
So
I
was
just
curious
if
anybody
was
and
I'll
ask
again
next
week,
so
there's
the
gist
file
bruce.
Do
you
want
to
share
your
screen
and
open
it
up
and
show
us
your
taxonomy
and
we'll
use
some
time
today.
C
E
No,
I
haven't
had
any
more
additions.
You
know
jamie
if
you're
good
on
that
change,
that
I
tagged
you
on
at
that.
You
know
like
I
don't
I
don't
have
a
ton
of
time
during
the
day
during
the
week
to
hack
on
the
docks,
but
like
the
next
thing
I
was
going
to
do
was
kind
of
the
same
thing
that
jamie's
thinking
about
which
is
like
changing
the
we
still
have
a
couple
like
vadims
and
trees
and
charos,
and
I
think
there's
one
other.
B
E
E
A
Until
jamie
does
his
updates,
so
that
way,
the
two
of
you
can
flux
and
jam
on
that
and
merge
and
pull
and
all
that
stuff,
and
then
that
way
I
won't
be
a
bottleneck.
If
somebody
can't
raise
the
dead
and
get
me
to
do
the
merge
or
something
and
then
we're
ready
with
that,
we'll
do
that
and
then
we'll
we'll
make
a
little
blog
about
it
as
well
to
go
along
with
it
to
make
joseph
happy
and
and
get
the
word
out.
E
Okay,
so
yeah
so
like
you
know,
I
guess,
depending
on
you
know,
I
I'm
just
keep
an
eye
out
it.
You
know
if
jamie
puts
up
pr's
I'll
I'll
review
him
and
whatnot
and
if
I'll
message
you
I
just
haven't,
had
a
chance
to
do
anything
and
and
won't
until
probably
like.
E
A
Yeah,
I
think
you
got
it
and
then
maybe
sometime
on
monday,
we
could
do
the
merge
over
so
that
on
tuesday
at
the
next
okd
full
working
group
meeting,
it
might
be
in
the
okd
repo.
So
let's
use
that
sort
of
as
a
time
frame
if
you
guys
get
through
it
and
I'll
be
I'll,
be
around
for
all
day
friday
too.
A
So
if
you
get
it
done
before
friday
or
the
before
the
end
of
the
weekend,
I
have
a
little
bit
of
stuff
going
on
this
weekend,
but
I'm
I'm
normally
online,
so
bruce
yeah
sounds
good.
You're
back,
okay
show
us
your
work.
F
C
Yeah
so
this
I
actually
got
some
suggestions
from
third
parties
that
I
incorporated,
but,
and
actually
there
were
some
things
I
had
left
out
on
purpose
because
I
didn't
want
to
get
into
the
complexities
of
it.
But
this
was
just
sort
of
a
you
know,
sort
of
the
big
choices
going
from
the
top
down,
and
you
know
so
it's
per,
I
would
say,
obvious
to
most
people
that
have
played
around
with
it
very
much.
A
So
the
only
question
that
I
have
is-
and
it's
just
a
naming
convention
and
is
the
libvert
one-
is
that
and
I
think
we
we
said
we
were
going
to
start
calling
it
lib
vert
and
not
bare
metal
anymore.
But
did
we
make
a
decision
about
that,
because
I
think
that
impacts
a
little
bit?
What
the
work
that
mike
and
jamie
are
doing
for
the
stubs
and
everything
are
we
in
the
stubs
and
the
guides?
Are
we
still
calling
it
bare
metal?
A
E
A
C
Was
my
issue
as
well
mike
that
you
know
to
me
bare
metal
is
okay.
I've
got
a
box
with
no
operating
system
on
it.
C
C
Right,
although
that's
that
to
me,
that
would
be
another
like
that
was
one
that
I
didn't
put
in,
but
that
would
be
a
well
oh.
No.
I
had
to
put
it
in
okay,
so
I've
got
that
under
cloud
provider,
so
you're
you're,
building
your
own
cloud
provider
essentially
but
yeah.
C
Because
I
think
and
yeah
and
that's
that's
now
yeah
I
was
trying
to
think
about
the
the
like
charo
like
we
have.
We
have
a
difference
between
charo
and
joseph
and
that
charo
is
pushing
little
nut
boxes.
You
know,
farms
of
them,
like
he's,
actually
spent
more
than
enough
to
get
a
blade
server
but,
and
then
josef
is
going
with
with
you
know,
a
big
single
server
and
running
vmware
on
it
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
sort
of
making
that
distinction.
C
I
guess
it's
implied
by
the
you
know.
The
choice
of
like
joseph
is
using
vmware
and
charles
using
levert.
C
And
the
the
people
that
did
the
the
bare
middle
one.
C
Whose
names
aren't
on
the
tip
of
my
tongue
we're
also
using
liberty,
andrews.
F
Yeah
sullivan
and
yeah.
A
F
C
C
A
They
both
were
js
there
we
go.
That's
all
I
had
in
my
brain
on
the
number
four.
The
dns
is
that
dns
and
dhcp
or
well.
C
See,
that's
that's
the
annoying
thing,
because
dns
mask
does
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff,
whereas
bind
is
just
dns
so
and
you
know
so
that
that's
if
you
want
an
ugliness
in
my
taxonomy,
it's
more
of
a,
I
guess,
a
graft
than
a
tree,
but
most
people
don't
seem
to
like
using
dns
mask
anyway,
for
whatever
reason
I
guess
for
from
a
hobby
lab
standpoint,
it
sort
of
makes
more
sense
if
you're,
if
you're
not
actually
doing
like
system
and
so
like
bind
if
you're
doing
system
in
you're,
probably
used
to
that.
C
Half
centuries
anyway,
almost
but
yeah,
so
that's
like
I
could
put
dns
mask
under
ip
assignment
to
nodes
and
again
the
ip
assignments
nodes.
That
was
a
little
bit.
C
I
guess
it's.
I
didn't
have
a
decent
name
for
that,
because
you
know,
like
we've,
got
three
different
levels
of
ips
going
on
right-
and
here
I
was
just
talking
about
the
upi
part
of
it.
C
But
yeah
I
mean,
if
you
want
to
you,
know
like
again
the
only
reason
I'm
asking.
A
That,
if
it
doesn't
bother
anybody
else,
is
because
from
last
the
workshop
and
that's
just
the
way
we
freezed
it
in
the
in
the
title,
so
yeah.
C
I
don't
think
so
now
I
don't
think
so.
I
know
I
didn't
see
craigs
but
he's
bind
last.
I
saw
yeah,
I
think
so.
A
So
the
goal
with
this
is
like
I
really
actually
very
like
it's,
that
I
like
the
way
that
you've
broken
it
down
is
to
make
sure
we
have.
This
is
sort
of
the
flow
of
all
the
decisions
you
have
to
make.
It's
like
a
decision
tree.
Basically,
when.
A
Deploying
a
cluster
and
that,
with
each
of
these
items
on
this
list,
there
might
be
a
link
to
or
a
little
bit
of
documentation
about
this
topic
in
relation
to
deploying
an
okd
cluster.
Or
is
this
just
the
fair
warning,
fair
warning?
You
need
to
know
all
about
these
things.
C
Right
see,
most
of
our
like
one
of
the
things
that,
like
these
are
not
choices
that
have
a
right
answer
in
my
mind,
it's
more
a
matter
of
taste
and
preference.
C
And
pretty
much
each
of
our
demos
makes
choices
along
these
lines
and
so
part
of
the
documentation
could
be
pulled
out,
as
you
know
like
before
you
get
into
it.
You
know
20
page
charo
demo.
C
What
are
you
setting
yourself
up
for
yeah
so
that
you
don't
sort
of
get
15
pages
through
and
decide
that?
Oh,
that's
incompatible
with
my
setup,
yeah.
A
I
think
this
is
I
really
like
this,
because
it's
one
it's
it's,
it's
good
for
someone
like
myself
that
doesn't
do
this
on
a
regular
basis
to
realize,
like
you
said
what
I'm
getting
myself
into,
but
it's
also
a
good
way
to
to
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
surface
this
in.
I
guess
I'm
what
I'm
struggling
is.
A
How
is
this
a
blog
post,
or
is
this
a
section
in
the
guide,
guidance
and
templates
that
we
can
use,
use
it
as
and
just
keep
flushing
out,
like
one
you've
got
templates
in
the
guidance
for
deployment,
but
this
is
almost
like.
A
This
might
be
something
that
comes
off
of
the
readme
file
or
a
higher
level
grouping
there,
and
I
I'm
not
sure
you
know
how
it's
it's
hugely
useful.
So
that's
not
what
I'm
not
saying
that
it's
not
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
where
we
put
it
in
terms
of
the
documentation.
B
B
I
like
the
idea
of
actually
linking
out
to
some
resources
on
these
because
it's
not
like
anyone's
forced
to
click
on
links
to
bind
or
anything
like
that
or
a
tutorial
on
bind
or
whatever.
So,
in
other
words,
you
know
following
the
the
basic
premise
of
hyperlinking,
if
someone
wants
to
click
on
it
and
and
go
dig
further,
they
can.
B
If
they
already
know
how
to
use
bind,
then
they
just
know
that
they
need
it
right,
and
so
I
would
be
inclined
to
link
these
things
out,
just
whatever
ones
that
we
can
if
we
can't
find
a
link
out
somewhere
in
the
world.
That's
a
good
explanation
of
how
to
do
that
thing.
Then
you
just
don't
provide
a
link
to
it.
You
know
a
link
from
it.
I
should
say
from
that
particular
item.
C
Right,
well,
all
these
items
have
hundreds
of
potential
links
right
because
they
have
you
know
like
official
documentation,
which
is
often
hundreds
of
pages
of
stuff,
that
you
can
only
read
if
you
already
know
what
you're
doing
and
then
tutorials,
which
cover
some
trivial
case.
It's
not
really
enough
to
get
you
started,
and
it
seems
that
in
a
lot
of
cases,
90
of
it
is
on
one
extreme
or
the
other.
C
So
if
you
don't
wanna,
read
the
the
actual
real
documentation,
then
you're
sort
of
going
from
searching
to
searching
for
the
particular
issue
that
you're
having-
and
I
actually
I'm
mainly
thinking
of
h,
a
proxy
on
that
one,
because
I
never
did
get
it
to
do
the
the
ready,
zed
or
ready
z.
If
you
will
checks
whenever
I
set
up
to
try
and
do
that,
then
it
just
claimed
that
they
were
all
dead.
B
A
We
could
turn
this
really
quickly
into
a
blog,
a
markdown
blog
on
okd.io,
using
joseph's
methodology
for
posting
it
there
and
and
basically
call
it
the
you
know
the
just.
You
know
the
decision
tree
for
deploying
this
and
then
put
a
little
a
paragraph
at
the
beginning
and
if
it
lives
in
markdown,
then
people
can
as
it
live
on
for
a
while
as
a
blog
post.
I
hate
blogging
documentation
by
blogging.
That's
my
everybody
hears
this
every
time,
I'm
on
a
call.
A
We
could
do
that
for
now
to
start
it
there
and
then
collectively
point
people
to
it
to
say:
okay,
so
and
I'm
just
gonna
grab,
one
is
level
two
load
balancing
with
f5,
either
put
it
to
the
generic
thing
on
f5.
Don't
you
know,
maybe
not
go
to
f5.com
but
to
the
place
in
the
documentation
that
references
that,
but
there
I
like
there
is
no
f5
plus
okd
piece
of
documentation
that
I
know
of
unless
there's
something
in
docs.okd.io
already.
B
It
might
be
something
that
we
delegate
to
people
or
or
offer
up
as
something
that
can
be
done
so
because
I
did
the
f5
I'm
going
to
add
the
f5
stuff
right.
You.
B
C
A
A
I
can
see
your
face
so
hi
and
I
think
it's,
my
turk
is
here
as
well,
so
it
just
we're
just
sort
of
running
through
where
this
should
live,
and
I
think,
while
it's
under
development
like
while
we're
figuring
out,
you
know
this
decision
tree
because
other
people
will
want
to
add
more
things
to
it,
and
we
could
put
a
note
at
the
bottom
of
it.
A
If
you
want
to
make
an
addition
to
it,
go
to
okd.io
and
make
a
pull
request
against
this
specific
blog
file,
and
we
can
merge
it
and
we
can.
I
can
manage
the
blog
process
of
people,
updating
it
on
a
reoccurring
basis
and
then,
when
we
get
to
a
point
where
it
feels
like
it's
something
that
should
live
on
beyond
the
blog,
maybe
it
gets
turned
into
a
chapter
in
the
guidance
books
once
it's
moved
over
there
or
it
could
go
into
the
guidance
right
away.
A
That's
the
other
thing,
but
I
think
the
blog
might
be
a
better
way
to
socialize
this
to
start
with
and
get
more
feedback
on
it
and
if
all
basically
we
would
need
bruce
is
an
opening
paragraph
about
what
the
goal
is
here.
You
know
and
maybe
250
words
max
and
then
a
footer
saying
with
a
link
to
how
to
if
you
have
comments
or
editions
or
links
for
any
of
this
content,
feel
free
to
make
a
full
request
against
the
blog.
So
I
mean.
E
You
know
like
dns,
for
example,
just
a
brief
description
of
like
what
you
you
know
why
you
need
to
know
a
little
bit
about
dns,
and
then
you
know,
links
to
the
rich
documentation.
That
say
like
here's,
how
you
set
up
your
dns
or
whatever
like.
I
would
love
to
see
that
as
like
a
primer
for
the
guides
right.
The
first
thing
you
should
do
is
read
this
document
and
just
read
the
bullet
points
about
like
what
you
need
to
what
you
need
to
be
prepared
for
right
now
to
tie
that
to
the
blog.
E
E
Right
right,
just
like
this
is
like
to
me
again,
I
go
back
to
what
you
said
bruce
like
I
love
the
notion
that,
like
this
is
a
document
that
someone
who
has
whatever
level
of
skill
they
have
with
these
various
technologies.
They've
got
this
idea
in
their
head.
They
want
to
install
okd
and
they're,
not
sure
at
all,
like
what
it
takes
to
do
that,
and
so
they
could
like.
You
know,
this
is
a
document
where
they
could
just
read
through
quickly
and
say
like
yeah.
I
need
to
understand
this
much
about
dns.
E
E
A
C
Bear
in
mind
that
I've
been
trying
to
teach
students
in
a
lot
of
these
areas
as
well.
So
it's
amazing
what
confusion
a
student
will
fall
into,
even
if
you
give
them
something
relatively
simple,
like
okay
here
set
up
a
basic
dns
and
here's
some
starter
configuration
files
that
you
have
to
go
through
and
understand
all
the
links
that
refer
to
each
other
and
so
on
and
so
on.
It's
not
non-trivial
to
them.
A
So
I'm
just
going
to
step
back,
so
our
shall
we
try
it
as
a
blog
post
to
start
with
and
have
group
think
add
these
little
paragraphs
or
bruce.
Do
you
have
enough
time
and
on
your
hands
to
like
put
for
each
of
the
the
higher
level
ones
like
a
brief,
one-line
sentence
about
why
this
is
important
to
okd
or
what
step
this
is
in
the
process
or
what
it
is
when
you
say.
C
Yeah
well
my
my
time,
I'm
sort
of
stirring
finals
in
the
face
in
two
weeks
we're
doing
virtual
things
and
because
of
a
variety
of
things,
I
need
to
make
up
new
problems
for
everybody.
A
C
A
A
You
know
it's
sort
of
I'm
jokingly,
saying
what
to
expect
when
you're
expecting
kind
of
thing,
but
and
then
in
next
week's
working
group
meeting,
I
can
ask
tell
people
and
I'll
put
a
footer
on
on
how
to
update
you
know
it's
a
it'll,
be
a
self-healing,
blog
post
and
then
maybe
what
we
can
do
and
then
and
then
grow
this
into
something
that
should
be.
A
You
know
the
primer
and
and
that
I
think,
that'll
help
that
I
don't
want
to
put
the
burden
on
you
bruce,
but
I
think
we
can
collectively
do
a
lot
of
this.
C
A
Yeah
put
a
bit
of
just
don't
don't
if
you're
in
the
middle
of
finals
week
forget
about
it,
you're
lost
now
and
and
for
us
for
a
little
while.
So
I'm.
I
am
totally
cognizant
of
that.
But
this
is
great
and
I
think
then,
if
you
come
to
next
week's
okay
working
group,
we'll
give
you
a
little
bit
of
time
on
there
to
talk
about
it
and
and
then
we
can
just
spark
some
interest
in
people,
maybe
adding
to
it
or
and
and
then
maybe
adding
links
to.
A
If
there
is
known
documentation
about
doing
f5
with
okd,
then
link
that
in
kind
of
thing
or
something
so,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
step
and
it
shows
some
progress.
So
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
A
little
bit
of
markdown
for.
C
I
just
went
with
plain
old
text
file
as
the
easiest
thing,
so
I'm
not
in
a
situation
where
it's
easy
to
add
a
url
yeah.
Don't.
A
Yeah,
don't
worry
just
in
the
top
of
the
gist,
add
a
paragraph
or
two
about
what
this
is,
and
you
know
how
we're
we've
been
talking
about
it
as
the
the
basis
for
a
primer.
If
you
have
other
topics,
please
add
them
in.
C
Yeah
but
I
like
my
suggestion-
and
that
also
takes-
I
guess
some
thinking
about
what
is
the
the
essence
that
people
have
to
get
on
each
of
these
topics.
A
Yeah,
that's
a
very
good
word
to
use
in
the
description,
the
essence
not
the
entire
thing,
and
but
just
the
essence,
but
I
I
almost
want
to
see
about.
I
could
figure
out
with
markdown
how
to
set
it
up
as
a
checklist
so
that
someone
might
print
it
and
go
right.
This
I'm
going
to
do
this,
therefore,
that
I
mean
it's
a
big.
A
If
then
else
statement
too,
because
I
think
some
of
these
fear
off
of
each
other
based
on
what
your
choices
are
too,
so
I'm
not
sure
who
the
developer
person
is
so
I'd,
love
them
to
comment
or
say,
hi
or
whatever
and
and
anybody
else
who
has
any
other
comments.
That's
if
we've
missed
anything
on
this
list
or
if
there's
other
alternatives
to
some
of
these
things
that
you're
using
please
speak
up.
A
A
I
think
so
that
gives
you
a
half
an
hour
back
jamie
to
look
at
those
guys
so
yeah
and
so
bruce.
Thank
you
for
this.
A
This
is
actually
really
really
helpful
and
what
I'll
I'll
try
and
do
is,
if
you
put
that
paragraph
in
and
then
ping
me
in
slack
or
someplace,
when
you've
done,
that
I'll
grab
it
and
turn
it
into
a
joseph
blog,
that'll
make
joseph
happy
and
I'm
using
his
vlog
and
and
then
yeah,
and
I
thought
I've
got
to
reach
out
to
joseph
anyways
as
well,
because
he's
going
to
give
a
talk
at
the
kubecon
eu
gathering
on
his
journey
from
okd
to
azure
and
beyond
or
whatever,
and
so
he's
going
to
be,
our
rep
for
the
kubecon
gathering,
which
is
may
4th
so
gotta
hit
him
up
for
a
recording
date
and
he'll
love
that
so
all
right.
A
Well,
thank
you
guys
and
everybody
for.