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Why Change Matters Now More Than Ever
The Importance of DevOps in this New World
Michael Ducy (Red Hat)
October 2 2020
hosted by Diane Mueller
OpenShift Commons Briefing
#TransformationFriday #DevOps #OpenShiftCommons
A
All
right
everybody
and
welcome
to
another
openshift
commons
briefing
and
as
we
do
on
every
friday,
this
is
a
transformational
talk
from
from
red,
hatters
external
folks
to
red
hat.
We've
got
a
great
group
of
folks
who
keep
coming
back
every
every
friday
to
have
these
conversations
about
changing
organizations,
devops,
dev
security,
devsecops
and
all
kinds
of
other
wonderful
things,
and
today
I'm
really
pleased
to
have
a
colleague
of
ours,
michael
duchy.
A
So
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
this
talk
and
to
the
conversation
with
michael
afterwards.
So
I'm
gonna.
Let
michael
introduce
himself
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
his
background
and
deliver
the
talk
and
then
afterwards,
please
do
join
us
for
a
conversation
about
the
topic,
so
michael,
take
it
away
and
thanks
again
for
taking
the
time
today.
B
B
There
we
go
finally
figured
it
out.
I
don't
know
what
was
going
on
there.
So
as
with
computers,
you
know,
as
they
say,
how
do
they
even
work
so
happy
fridays,
everyone
or
good
afternoon
good
evening,
good
morning,
depending
upon
where
you're
at
in
the
world,
so
I'm
michael
ducey,
I'm
a
co-founder
and
organizer
of
devops
city's
columbus.
I
also
helped
found
devops
days.
Minneapolis
have
a
broad
background
in
systems,
administration
capacity
planning,
sales,
engineering,
community
development
and
so
forth.
B
B
I
think
in
the
in
the
prep
in
the
green
room,
diane
was
talking
that
she
went
to
bed
and
everything
was,
you
know,
well
kind
of
normal
normal
for
2020
and
she
wakes
up
and
there's
yet
another
curveball
that
we've
seen
presented
to
us
and
it
seems
like
every
single
day
when
we
wake
up.
While
we
are
adapting
to
this
new
idea
of
normalcy,
we
always
tend
to
wake
up
and
have
this
saying
in
our
head
and
of
course
everyone
knows
what
this
means,
but
really
like.
B
9,
almost
three
months
ago,
it
was
12
million
who
had
contracted
the
coronavirus
and
almost
a
half
a
million
or
just
over
a
half
a
million
people
that
had
died
from
the
coronavirus
as
of
october
2nd.
When
I
looked
at
the
numbers,
it's
34
million
three
or
34.5
million,
and
over
a
million
people
who
have
died
from
this
virus
and
it
really,
when
you
start
to
put
these
numbers
in
perspective
and
really
think
of
just
in
three
months,
we've
almost
tripled
the
rate
of
infection
and
we've
doubled.
B
The
number
of
people
that
have
died
of
this
horrible
virus
really
starts
to
put
things
in
perspective,
and
when
you
see
it
presented
like
this,
it
really
starts
to
make
us
think
you
know
what
can
we
do
and
and
and
how
this
has
impacted
us
in
some
way,
and
you
know
the
world
has
been
forced
to
respond.
You
know,
we've
all
had
to
change
our
day-to-day
life.
We've
all
had
to
adapt
to
work
from
home.
B
And
it's
interesting,
though,
is
that,
as
we've
been
forced
to
respond
to
this
kind
of
what
was
leading
up
to
2020,
especially
in
the
united
states.
I
won't
necessarily
speak
to
the
entire
world,
but
we're
more
than
divided
than
ever
as
a
nation,
and
you
know
on
multiple
fronts,
but
primarily
the
political
front.
B
Has
us
really
really
divided
and
it's
interesting
that
this
division
is
happening
at
the
same
time
when
we
see
that
our
communities
are
kind
of
falling
apart
and
being
shattered,
not
only
by
kind
of
the
division
in
our
communities,
but
also
the
the
virus
has
caused
our
communities
to
be
shattered
as
well.
You
can't
go
and
see.
Friends
like
you
used
to
winter
is
now
coming,
and
things
are
gonna
be
much
colder
and
so
being
able
to
do
that
social
distancing
picnic.
B
It's
really
really
somewhat
ironic
to
me
that
really
been
this
perfect
storm
of
all
of
these
things.
Coming
together,
I'm
gonna
take
a
step
back
and
I'm
gonna
talk
a
little
bit
about
devops
and
digital
transformation.
I
kind
of
want
to
set
the
scene
here
a
little
bit
around
how
I
think
us
and
the
devops
community
and
us
in
the
broader
tech
community,
can
really
start
to
ask
ourselves
some
pretty
poignant
questions
around.
How
do
we
respond
to
this?
B
So
really,
where
devops
really
came
about?
Is
this
idea
of
the
rise
of
cloud
and
mobile
computing
right?
So
we
all
of
a
sudden
have
all
of
these
computers
that
we
have
to
maintain.
We
realize,
as
I
t
professionals,
we
need
to
change
the
way
that
we
work
and
really
also
what's
happened,
is
with
the
rise
of
cloud
and
mobile.
Now
that
everyone
has
one
of
these
in
their
pocket-
and
you
know
these,
these
are
these
smartphones.
These
days
are
more
powerful
than
some
people's
laptops.
B
In
some
cases,
and
now
you
have
this
idea
of
the
connected
consumer
to
where
this
is
the
brick
and
mortar.
Now.
This
is
where
you
want
to
try
and
reach
your
consumer,
and
so
with
this
rise
of
the
connected
consumer
we've
had
this
rise
of
this
idea
of
digital
transformation,
and
so
devops
is
really
a
response
to
serve
digital
transformation.
B
So
how
do
we
make
it
easier
to
deploy
our
apps
on
a
continuous
basis
to
these
devices
so
that
we
can
get
these
features
and
functionality
in
front
of
our
end
user
and
understanding
that
that's
the
feature
and
functionality
we
want
to
actually
deploy?
Is
it
useful?
Is
it
going
to
give
us
the
business
impact?
B
Are
we
able
to
reach
our
consumer
now
in
a
digital
way,
and
the
really
interesting
thing
is,
if
you
think
about
devops
and
what
the
core
tenets
of
devops
is
about,
and
I
would
say
you
know
we
can
talk
about
automation.
We
can
talk
about
measurement.
We
can
talk
about
bringing
in
lean
principles,
but
whether,
if
you're
talking
about
internally
inside
of
your
company
or
externally
in
the
broader
devops
community
devops
is
really
about
community.
B
It's
this
idea
of
bringing
people
together
from
disparate
backgrounds,
understanding
what
their
struggles
are
not
only
from
a
technology
perspective,
but
also
the
human
factors
of
things
that
that
really
influences
how
they
interact
with
that
technology
and
use
that
technology.
And
that's
one
of
the
things
that's
been,
probably
the
most
powerful.
For
me
as
I've
been
involved
in
the
devops
days
community
over
the
last
seven
years
is
really
this.
B
This
big
sense
of
community
that
we
have
not
only
it's
the
external
communities
like
the
devops
days
community,
for
instance,
but
I've
seen
over
the
years
how
companies,
when
they
start
to
adopt
this
devops
methodology
or
these
ideas
and
practices
of
devops
inside
of
their
own
organizations.
The
communities
really
start
to
grow,
and
I
think
that's
something.
That's
that's
very
beautiful
that
we
have
in
the
devops
community,
but
the
other
thing
that
we've
talked
a
lot
about
in
the
world
of
devops.
B
B
The
empathy
has
really
had
to
go
up
across
the
board,
for
everyone
we
have
to
you
know,
put
up
with
interruptions
on
conference
calls
because
we
don't
have
spaces
in
our
home,
sometimes
to
have
our
own
office.
You
know,
kids
are
interrupting,
and
things
like
that,
and
it's
really
been
interesting
to
see
how
nobody
cares
about
the
dog
barking
on
the
conference
call
anymore.
Nobody
cares
that
the
baby
cries
or
anything
like
that.
B
We've
really
taken
a
change
of
mindset
and
being
more
empathetic,
and
I
think
that's
one
reason:
why
is
because
we're
all
in
the
same
situation
and
the
entire
world
is
going
through
this?
This
exact
same
thing
with
the
coronavirus,
and
so,
if
you
take
a
step
back
and
think
about
devops
and
devops
is
about
community
and
devops
about
empathy
and
devops
is
in
service
of
digital
transformation.
B
What's
interesting,
though,
is
digital
transformation
really
kind
of
focuses
on
this
idea
of
capitalism?
And
you
know
I
won't
say
whether
or
not
capitalism
is
good
or
bad.
This
isn't
a
debate
on
capitalism
versus
socialism
or
different
economic
models,
but
the
interesting
thing
is:
is
you
end
up
creating
this
kind
of
tension
between
digital
transformation
and
devops,
and
we
have
this
big
community
idea?
We
have
this
idea
of
empathy,
but
then,
when
we're
actually
going
to
deploy
that
application,
it's
all
about.
B
How
can
we
get
eyeballs
on
this
device
so
that,
hopefully,
consumers
will
go
and
buy
our
company's
product
and
digital
transformation
is
really
about
this
idea
of
consumption
and
how
do
we
drive
consumption,
and
so
my
slides
are
messing
up
just
one
second,
sorry
about
that,
and
so
what
digital
transformation?
If
we
really
look
at
digital
transformation
and
what
it's
about
is
it's
really
about
or
how
it's
manifested
itself?
It's
can
I
get
a
car
easily?
Can
I
order
food
online?
B
Can
I
watch
my
favorite
shows,
or
can
I
meet
someone
handsome
like
ryan
there,
and-
and
I
ask
ourselves
really
like
what
does
digital
transformation
do
to
serve
the
people
right?
So,
while
all
these
things
are
great,
there's
a
certain
economic
barrier
that
you
have
to
get
into
using
these
things.
So
not
everyone
has
the
advantage
of
using
uber
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
Not
everyone
can
fly
from
amsterdam
to
san
francisco.
B
And
so
I
really
ask
ourselves,
you
know
what
does
digital
transformation
do
to
serve
the
people,
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
things
that's
really
been
highlighted
to
me
by
this
whole
covet
crisis
and
then
the
coronavir
crisis.
If
you
look
at
what
the
states
had
to
do
to
try
and
respond
to
the
unprecedented
number
of
claims
of
unemployment
in
the
united
states,
we
really
start
to
saw
see
that
digital
transformation
really
isn't
serving
a
lot
of
the
basic
needs
of
the
people
and
there's
lots
of
good
stories.
B
Though,
also
that's
come
out
of
this
of
how
we
have
been
able
to
use
digital
transformation
to
deploy
contact,
tracing
apps
in
certain
places
throughout
the
world
to
deploy
applications
to
help
people's
lives
and
make
people's
lives
better.
There's
a
good
story
that
I
heard
about
a
bank-
and
you
know
they
were
getting
a
lot
of
traffic
to
the
account
summary
page,
and
it
was
a
little
bit
too
much
traffic.
B
And
so
the
other
question
is
you
know?
What
does
digital
transformation
do
to
serve
the
underserved
people
and
how
can
states
and
governments
use
digital
transformation
to
really
start
to
make
sure
that
the
underserved
people
in
our
world
or
our
communities
are
actually
served?
And
so
what
does
digital
transformation
do
to
serve
the
underprivileged,
the
poor,
the
oppressed
and
society
as
a
whole?
B
And
through
my
experience
you
know
traveling
around
the
world.
I
think
I've
really
met
one
person
whose
organization
was
using
digital
transformation
to
really
serve
those
people
that
needed
it
most,
and
this
was
an
example
of
an
app
there's,
a
gentleman
by
the
name
of
sam
who
used
to
work
at
a
company
that
created
an
app
where
homeless,
people
could
use
this
app
and
they
could
actually
go
and
look
to
see.
B
We
really
started
to
have
this
movement,
and
we
really
started
to,
I
think,
have
a
higher
awareness
around
inclusion
and
diversity,
but
not
just
inclusion
and
diversity
in
the
sense
of
do.
Are
we
making
sure
that
there's
enough
women
speaking
at
a
tech
conference
or
something
like
that?
But
really
this
movement
started
in
2014
with
the
shooting,
by
of
a
gentleman
by
the
name
of
mike
brown
in
ferguson
missouri,
you
know
right
or
wrong.
B
It's
really
hard
to
understand
what
those
people
go
through,
and
I
had
a
few
friends
in
those
neighborhoods
as
well
as
well,
and
so
just
a
little
bit
more
about
me.
I
grew
up
in
the
inner
city
of
st
louis.
I
went
to
a
school
named.
Roosevelt
high
school,
roosevelt
high
school
had
the
I
guess,
honor
if
you
will,
or
unwelcomed
honor,
to
be
the
first
high
school
public
high
school
in
the
state
of
missouri.
B
The
question
is:
they
were
actually
looking
at
many
cities
throughout
the
united
states
to
kind
of
find
what
is
the
most
racist
city
in
america
and
and
st
louis
is
definitely
up
there.
I
remember
as
a
as
a
youth.
There
was
a
big
controversy
because
the
kkk
wanted
to
sponsor
highway
cleanup
along
interstate
55
on
the
south
side
of
st
louis,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
controversy
about
putting
the
sign
up
and
all
of
those
sorts
of
things
as
well.
B
For
a
number
of
years,
st
louis
had
a
fourth
of
july
parade,
which
was
called
the
veiled
profit
parade,
and
if
you
look
at
the
veiled
profit
well,
the
whole
veiled,
profit,
community
and
kind
of
secret
society
was
all
affluent
white
people
and
the
veiled
prophet.
If
you
go
and
look
it
up,
the
veiled
prophet
looks
very
much
like
a
ku
klux
klan
member
in
their
white
robes.
And
so
how
do
you
have
this
community,
where
african,
americans
or
black
people
can
be
welcomed?
B
B
So
these
are
comments
on
that
article
that
I
showed
earlier
as
a
black
person
that
grew.
There
grew
up
there
that
place,
and
the
thing
is,
is
you
know
if
you've
never
been
in
those
communities
if
you've
never
been
in
someone's
home
who
lives
in
those
communities
if
you've
never
seen
what
people
go
through
on
a
day-to-day
basis?
B
It's
very
very
hard
to
understand.
Not
only
are
you
living
in
a
neighborhood,
that's
blighted,
maybe
you're
of
a
of
a
social,
certain
economic
status
or
socioeconomic
status.
You
don't
see
opportunities.
Your
schools
are
some
of
the
worst
schools
in
the
country,
it's
very
hard
for
you
to
understand
what
people
have
to
go
through
on
a
day-to-day
basis,
and
the
very
important
thing
to
understand
is
this:
just
isn't
about
st
louis.
B
And
if
you
look
at
you
know,
african-americans
asian
americans
or
I'm
sorry,
blacks.
They
make
forty
thousand
dollars
where
asians
make
almost
double
that,
and
you
know,
whites
make
twenty
eight
thousand
dollars
more,
and
so
it's
very
easy
for
us
to
say.
Economic
opportunity
is
spread
when
we
see
all
of
our
friends
who
look
like
us
having
these
good
jobs
and
things
like
that.
B
But
it's
very
hard
to
understand
what
other
people
will
actually
have
to
go
through
when
you
begin
to
break
it
down,
and
I
think
this
is
very
poignant
and
one
of
the
things
that
has
really
crossed
my
mind.
As
I
look
at
this
is
we
work
in
tech?
We
get
paid
extremely
well
to
do
what
we
do
in
tech,
and
we've
had
for
a
number
of
years
been
talking
about
gender
balance
in
tech
and
getting
more
women
involved
in
technology
and
one
and
which
I
think
is
a
great
thing.
B
This
is
public
spending
as
a
share
of
national
income,
and
so
you
can
see
that
the
growth
since
the
70s
has
really
been
about
taking
more
and
more
of
our
national
income
and
putting
it
into
law
and
order,
and
in
many
cases
we've
been
reducing
the
amount
of
our
national
income
that
we
put
in
putting
into
wherefore
welfare
and
social
services
and
the
other
day
in
the
debate.
And
you
know
we
don't
need
to.
B
B
So
if
you
would
think
about
how
the
funding
would
actually
be,
it's
not
necessarily
about
defunding
law
and
order,
but
it's
shifting
money
and
providing
more
money
to
make
sure
that
these
social
safety
nets
are
there
and
making
sure
that
the
welfare
programs
are
there
where
we
can
actually
begin
to
lift
people
out
of
poverty
and
their
socioeconomic
status,
because
if
you
can
get
you
know
one
or
ten
or
a
hundred
people,
that
all
of
a
sudden
have
good
paying
jobs
that
helps
their
family.
That
helps
their
extended
family.
B
B
Or
do
we
invest
in
uplift,
uplifting
people
and
there's
the
same
that
says
you
know
a
writings,
rising
tide
lifts
all
boats
and
to
go
back
to
kind
of
the
economic
example
for
the
longest
time
in
the
united
states.
We've
had
this
viewpoint
that
if
we
give
tax
breaks
to
the
wealthy,
and
of
course
everyone
knows,
this
is
called
trickle-down
economics.
B
B
We
contribute
to
them
through
our
unconscious
biases
that
we
might
have
whether,
if
you're
screening
resumes
or
something
like
that,
and
you
just
automatically
push
one
aside,
you
know:
there's
there's
little
things
that
we
do
every
day.
That
kind
of
contribute
to
this,
and
do
we
ask
ourselves
every
day?
Am
I
doing
something
to
make
sure
that
I'm
breaking
down
these
walls
and
breaking
down
these
barriers
every
day.
A
A
B
Yeah
so
kind
of
going
back
to
your
point
on
you
know
django
and
python
and
php,
and
you
know,
I've
been
a
contributor
of
open
source
communities
or
a
participant
of
open
source
communities
and
a
contributor
over
the
last
20
years
and
what's
really
been
interesting
to
see.
Is
these
these
communities
aren't
local
to
the
united
states?
These
are
global
communities.
B
You
know,
I
would
probably
say
the
much
like
the
open
source
communities,
the
easiest
way
to
start
to
build
empathy
and
building
that
shared
experience
is
getting
involved.
Somehow
I
have
a
friend
who
was
telling
me
a
story
of
how
she
volunteered
at
one
of
the
missions
down
in
el
paso,
which
helps
immigrants
and
refugees
at
the
border,
and
it
was
a
and
she's.
B
And
when
you
begin
to
really
see
that
and
the
point
of
view
that
she
gave
me
is
that
if
she'd
never
volunteered
like
that,
she
wouldn't
have
that
shared
experience
of
really
understanding
what
people
go
through
and,
as
I
drive
around
kind
of
out
of
columbus,
where
I
live
and
seeing
people
with
signs
that
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with.
Let's
put
it
that,
but
they
live
on
a
farm.
They
live
in
the
middle
of
nowhere.
B
They
don't
have
that
ability
to
have
that
shared
experience
and
the
only
way
that
you're
going
to
get
that
is
by
getting
involved
and
getting
into
those
communities
just
like
how
we
build
the
shared
experience
and
the
devops
community
or
in
the
open
source
community.
It's
all
about
going
and
finding
a
way
that
you
can
get
involved.
A
And
that
that
kind
of
you
talked
about
the
connected
customers
and
that
and
that-
and
I
sometimes
riff
on
this
idea
of
continuous
connection
but
creating
the
spaces
to
make
those
connections.
It
get
it's
harder
in
a
covid
world
when
it's
all
via
zooming
in
and
virtual,
but
there's
still
ways
you
can
get
out
into
your
communities.
A
But
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
try
and
do
at
least
at
red
hat
and
in
the
openshift
commons,
is
to
create
spaces
for
people
to
connect,
whether
they're,
virtual
or
you
know,
text
messaging
or
tick
tocks
or
whatever
it
is,
but
how
meeting
people
where
they
are?
I
mean
you
can't
you,
maybe
I
can't
go
to
el
paso
and
be
there
to
you,
know,
help
in
food
feeding
or
clothing
or
supporting
people
with
services
there.
A
But
there
are
things
you
can
do
and
you
know-
and
I
think
that's
really
one
of
my
goals
now
in
knowing
that
I
have
these
privileges
that
I
have
access
to.
These
tools
is
to
create
spaces
where
you
can
bring
people
in
who
are
economically
underprivileged
or
education
and
offer
these
things
up
either.
Free
of
charge
or
do
the
mentoring
online
with
people
there's
there's
a
lot
of
ways
we
can
contribute,
but
I
think
the.
B
A
C
A
There's
a
huge
digital
divide
in
the
united
states,
with
access
to
like
I'm
I'm
sitting
in
a
rural
community
in
canada,
north
of
vancouver,
and
I
have
fiber
optic
right.
That's
that's
privilege!
The
the
telus
ceo
moved
in
and
built
a
house
up
the
up
the
coast
from
me
and
we
became
the
first
rural
community
in
all
of
canada
because
he
wanted
his
summer
home
up.
There
love
you
tell
us,
thank
you
very
much,
I'm
paying
my
building,
but
it's
it's
that
kind
of
becoming
more
aware
of
where,
where
it
breaks
down.
B
C
A
I
finished
you
saw
a
great
thing
about.
I
think
it
was
singapore
that
the
elderly
didn't
have
cell
phones,
so
they
created
these
jeep
for
contact
tracing
for
covid.
So
they
created
these
things
that
look
like
a
tile
or
a
little
gps
thing
that
had
the
the
app
embedded
in
it.
So
they
didn't
have
to
be
on
a
cell
phone
but
creating
new
things
like
that.
I
mean
it
is
also
big
brother
supervising
and
watching
this,
but
the
grandmother
who
was
being
interviewed.
A
B
To
us
for
the
rest
of
our
nature
and
definitely
one
of
the
more
vulnerable
populations
that
need
it,
probably
the
most
yeah
as
well
yeah
the
the
idea
of
access
is,
is
definitely
one
that
we've
thought
about
in
the
tech
community.
For
a
while.
I
remember
the
one
laptop
per
child
program
when
that
came
out
in
you
know,
2001
2003
time
frame-
and
I
remember
thinking-
and
this
was
before
I
had
ever
stepped
foot
outside
of
the
united
states-
and
I
remember
thinking
like
well
why.
B
A
I
think
one
of
the
other
things
that's
happened
with
kovid
and
is
when
they
do
it.
When
people
have
access
to
events,
one
of
the
things
about
not
traveling
to
events
or
gathering,
openshift,
commons
gatherings
or
summits
or
whatever
it
is,
is
that
that
getting
managers
to
approve
your
travel
paying
for
the
travel,
the
hotel,
the
cost
of
registration,
has
all
been
blown
out
of
the
water.
A
I
mean
it's
kind
of
democratizing
access
to
mentors
and
tech
talks
and
hands-on
workshops,
and
all
of
that
and
and
building
those
tools
out
and
making
them
making
building
more
awareness
of
them
and
doing
more
of
that,
it's
it's.
It's
not
really
a
stress
on
the
system
to
scale
up
a
hands-on
workshop.
You
can
live
stream,
as
chris
short's
been
doing
tons
of
and
anybody
can
access
it.
It's
free
and
it's
freely
available.
A
So
it's
like
these
kinds
of
innovations
and
I
think
it's
an
opportunity
for
the
tech
industry
and
probably
all
the
corporate
marketing
events
teams
in
the
world
to
reinvent
themselves.
In
a
way
I
mean
to
take
advantage,
we
have
you
know.
Obviously
we
haven't
found
the
perfect
conference
tool
platform.
Yet
I
think
it's
yet
to
be
built
if
I
try
one
more
I'm
gonna
scream.
But
it's
like
the
the
idea
that
we
now
have
all
of
these
tools.
We
can
build
the
apps.
A
It's
been,
you
know,
kind
of
the
promise
of
platform
as
a
service.
I'm
just
going
to
say
this
is
that
when
I
first
got
in
to
pause
back,
you
know
nine
years
ago
or
whenever
that
was
when
we
had
our
first,
you
know
ruby
on
rails
platform
as
a
service
offer
heroku
launched
or
whomever
it
started.
It
was
that
it
was
going
to
make
it
super
easy
to
deploy
an
application
to
build
an
app
to
build
a
mobile
app
and
it
has.
But
it's
still
there's
still
barriers
right
and
we
can.
A
We
can
do
better
and
I
think
that's
a
lot
of
us
in
tech
have
a
lot
of
experience.
Building
empathy
between
dev
and
ops,
between
management
and
dev
and
ops
and
end
users
and
building
communities-
and
you
know
applying
them
and
taking
the
time
now,
taking
a
step
back
from
our
day-to-day
jobs
and
really
reaching
out
and
and
creating
some
of
those
connections
is
really,
I
think,
kind
of
the
most
important
thing
we
can
do
right.
C
World
it's
hard
to
interrupt,
but
the
world
needs
more
of
us
to
interact
with
the
world
now
more
than
ever,
yeah
right
like
it's
it's
imperative
right,
because
I
I
put
I
put
a
link
in
chat.
The
flag
behind
me.
You
see
over
my
head
is
the
city
of
detroit
flag.
I'm
from
you
know
outside
detroit,
and
you
know
they
still
need
laptops
at
the
schools.
They
still,
you
know,
are
looking
for
funds.
How
easy
is
it
for
you
know
you
to
go
out
to
your
company.
C
You
know
big
tech,
company
and
say:
hey:
do
we
do
donation
matching
and
then
just
set
up
a
25
a
month?
You
know
donation
to
just
your
local
public
school
system
just
to
help
them
out
anything.
You
know
women
of
women,
women
who
code
black
suit
code.
Any
of
those
organizations
will
happily
take
donations
to
help.
A
C
C
B
A
Sharing
that,
if
you
can't
leave
your
house
or
your
community,
the
zoom
stuff
is
amazing.
It's
just
you
know
being
able
to
set
up
that.
You
know
I
didn't
on
last
night,
another
zoom
to
connect
with
a
bunch
of
people,
and
you
know
it's
just
it
gives
you
the
sense
of
community
and
it
happened
to
be
vmware.
Women.
Women
in
vmware
invited
me
a
red
hatter
to
a
a
virtual
meetup,
which
I
thought
was
great
and
very
for.
B
B
That's
the
other
thing
that
you
know
adam
jacob
of
chef
kind
of
taught
me
is
like
and
we're
all
in
this
together,
and
so
we
might
wear
different
jerseys,
as
another
friend
always
would
say,
but
always
be
kind
to
one
another
always
be
welcoming
to
one
another.
It
doesn't
necessarily
matter
that
I
have
a
red
hat
jersey
on
today
and
you
have
a
vmware
jersey
on.
We
can
still
be
welcoming
and
invite
others
into
our
community.
C
It's
it's
like.
I
tell
everybody
right,
like
I
wear
mini
hats
at
red
hat:
it's
not
just
the
red
hat
right
like
diane,
perfect
example.
Right,
like
open
shift
comments.
She
doesn't
just
wear
one
hat
at
red
hat
right
like
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
do
out
in
the
community
that
everybody
can
help
do
and
can
actually
improve
your
community
right
here.
Right
now,.
A
I
think
the
other
challenge
is
burnout
as
well.
I
mean
we're
what
six
months
into
the
covid
crisis,
and
one
of
the
reasons
I
really
wanted
to
have
michael
on
here-
is
to
sort
of
re-inspire
me.
I'd
heard
your
talk
earlier
and
to
really
to
to
do
more,
because
I
think
at
a
certain
point
we
get
a
nerd
to
the
craziness
to
the
chaos
we
wake
up
in
the
morning
and
there's
another
like.
Oh,
my
god,
could
that
possibly
have
happened
overnight.
A
A
You
know
basically
coming
out
into
that
tech,
community
and
being
supported
and
having
up
spaces
those
those
kinds
of
things
we
can
do
for
our
underserved
communities.
We
can
take
those
skills,
the
things
that
we
learned
in
the
open
source
and
the
other
day.
I
don't
know
chris,
if
you
were
on
the
the
toc
call
the
cncftoc
call,
and
I.
A
C
A
C
A
Yeah
when-
and
I
think
that's
part
of
part
of
it-
is
that
there's
in
this
this
case,
it's
about
getting
some
uniformity
onto
the
onboarding
and
becoming
a
contributor
process
across
all
of
the
cncf
projects.
Some
of
them
do
great
jobs
and
others
not
so
much,
and
I
I
jokingly
said
that
they
all
needed
life
coaches,
every
every
cncf
project
needed
a
life
coach
or
a
devops
coach.
A
And
you
know,
and
that's
really
what
I
think,
as
community
people
and
open
source
devrel
and
devops
people
we
do.
You
know
we
try
and
help
people
do
that,
but
to
have
some
uniformity
in
that,
and
I
think
that's
true,
like
there's
a
lot
of
websites
out
there
and
we
probably
should
have
a
resources
page
here
of
things
you
can
do
in
your
community
if
you're
a
tech
person
or
you
know
to
to
donate,
to
be
participatory
in
these
things
and
to
help.
A
You
know
it's
like
if
we
remember
how
hard
it
was
to
make
our
first
contribution
to
package
our
first
python,
you
know,
pip,
you
know
doing
you
know
very
first
things
and
have
empathy
and
then
realize
empathy
plus
all
of
the
the
different
things
in
the
world
that
people
don't
have
access
to
the
training,
the
even
the
the
language
and
every
time
we
use
and
make
up
yet
another
acronym.
That
is
another
way
we
need
to
decode
our
world
and
make
it
accessible.
B
You
know
diane
you
and
I
have
known
each
other
for
nine
years
at
this
point
now-
and
I
can
remember,
you
know,
going
to
conferences
and
it
being
a
much
different
world
than
it
is
now
right,
and
I
I
think
we
we
sometimes
get
hung
up
on
like
we
constantly.
We
need
to
improve.
We
need
to
improve
diversity,
inclusionism
where
it
should
be,
and
I'm
not
saying
by
any
means
that
the
problem
is
fixed.
B
Thank
you,
like
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress
by
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
saying
that
this
is
not
acceptable
anymore.
We're
going
to
make
changes,
we're
going
to
make
our
communities
more
inclusive
and
more
diverse,
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
just
all
doesn't
look
like
people
like
chris
and
I
yeah,
and
so
I
just
kind
of
want
to
think
that
we
should
reflect
on
that.
By
no
means
are
we
done
doing
that,
but
we've
shown
ourselves
that
we
have
the
capability
to
make
those
changes.
A
Absolutely
I
I
think
that
we've
done,
we've
done
a
huge
amount
of
learning
and
growing
inside
of
the
tech
community.
There's
tons
more
to
do,
but
I
think
the
skill
sets
that
we've
developed
and
the
the
conversations
that
we've
had,
whether
they
were
hallway
conversations
or
panel
conversations
about
dni
and
the
way
that
we've
grown
grown
it
by
making
you
know
understanding
the
myth
of
meritocracy.
A
You
know
all
kinds
of
things
that
we've
we've
had
to
grow
ourselves
and
mentor
people
along
the
way
to
grow
them,
and
I
think
all
of
those
skills
we
need
to
now
redouble
and
apply
to
this.
Current
set
of
you
know
very
tough
circumstances
that
people
are
going
through
right
now
and
and
realize
that
where
we
have
privilege-
and
we
have
a
lot
we're
sitting
here
in
nice-
heated
houses-
you
know
with
good
internet
access
and
and
yeah.
A
B
We
have
a
responsibility
in
our
communities
to
make
sure
that
people
that
look
like
us
understand
what's
going
on
and
getting
some
perspective
into
our
communities
is,
is
extremely
important
and
I
also
you
know,
understand,
there's
a
long
way
for
us
to
go
as
a
society
to
improve
these
things.
But
if
we
don't
start
having
the
conversations,
if
I'm
not
talking
to
people
that
look
like
me
about
this
conversation,
then.