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Join Diane Mueller (Red Hat) and special guests as we rehash all the highlights and special moments from Kubecon/NA 2020 and all the co-located events. Celebrating the new connections we made and insights we gained into the all things Cloud Native. Guest will share their favorite talks and sessions, and audience participation is highly encouraged!
A
B
All
right,
everybody
welcome
to
a
another
openshift
commons
briefing
and
as
we
like
to
do
on
fridays,
do
transformational
talks
and
it's
trans.
Our
hashtag
is
transformationfriday
and
today
we're
going
to
do
something
a
little
bit
different.
We
did
a
pre
kubecon
what
to
expect,
and
you
know,
sort
of
a
road
map
thing
prior
to
kubecon,
north
america,
and
if
you
don't
know
kukan
it's,
the
cloud
native
foundation,
seminal
buy
or
try
yearly
event.
B
They
have
one
in
europe,
north
america
and
aipac,
and
this
two
weeks
ago
there
was
an
amazing
one
that
was
done
here
in
north
america
and
a
lot
of
us
attended.
A
few
of
us
had
to
speak,
which
was
kind
of
done
with
trepidation
on
my
part,
but
we're
going
to
talk
today
a
little
bit
about
about
that
event
share
some
of
our
favorite
talks
and
because
there
were
so
many
and
let's
see
if
I
can
advance
my
slides
here,
I
do
here.
B
Oops
slide
four,
I'm
love
and
slide,
and
there
were
22
000
people
who
registered
for
this
event,
and
it
was
huge.
The
final
numbers
haven't
come
out
of
the
people
who
registered
and
it
was
it,
but
it
was
amazing
event
and
there
were
a
lot
of
great
connections
that
we
got
to
make
and
they
had
some
amazing
tools
that
we'll
talk
about
that
helped
make
it
a
little
bit
more
interactive
and
we're
just
really
thrilled.
B
So
we're
really
thrilled
that
everybody's
taking
the
time
here
for
us-
and
there
is,
if
you
haven't
seen
it
torsten
vold,
who
I
have
never
met-
did
a
great
blog
posts
that
I
recommend
everybody
take
a
look
at
because
they
managed
to
encompass
all
of
the
the
aspects
of
that
were
covered
in
the
the
kubecon
schedule
itself,
and
he
did
a
great.
He
did
it.
B
The
talk
was
five
charts
about
kubecon
and
it
was
really
kind
of
interesting,
but
it
was
also
interesting
and
if
you
look
at
the
the
bubble
diagram
on
the
side,
there
were
talks
about
everything
and
then
there
were
still
things
that
didn't
get
covered.
So
like
a
lot
of
the
sandbox
cncf
projects
didn't
have
specific,
hallway
tracks
or
sessions
there,
because
there
are
now
42
of
them.
B
B
All
we
talk
about
is
kubernetes
and
I
don't
think
that's
quite
true,
and
I
think
today,
you'll
you'll,
see
a
few
other
suggestions
here
and,
as
I
said,
22
000
people
registering
for
this
thing.
I
think
their
goal
was
to
get
20
000
to
register
and
to
keep
20
000
people
engaged
and
connected
and
make
them
connect
and
keep
them
happy
is
no
small
feat
and
so
kudos
to
the
whole
events
team
at
cncf.
B
For
making
this
happen,
they
really
did
an
awesome
job
and
they
also,
and
not
only
did
they
do
an
awesome
job
on
kubecon,
but
they
did
some
huge
other
small.
You
know
smaller
events
around
some
of
the
graduated
projects
and
other
topics
that
brought
together
even
more
people
on
day
zero.
There
were
a
lot
of
other
non-um
cncf
hosted
things
we
co-located
in
openshift
commons
gathering
on
day
zero
as
well.
Aws
had
a
community
day
on
day
one.
There
was
just
so
much
content
coming
at
you
over
that
week.
B
13Th
so
start
writing
your
abstracts
and
tweaking
it
and
getting
folks
on
board
to
review
it
and
and
hopefully
we'll
see
you
at
the
next
kubecon
event,
I'm
going
to
stop
sharing
my
screen
and
show
off
some
of
the
faces
of
these
wonderful
people
who
are
here
with
me
today
and
I'm
going
to
ask
them
each
to
introduce
themselves
is
amy
merrick.
Are
you
yep
you're
there?
I
can
see
your
face.
C
B
B
That's
my
test
and
you
don't
want
to
see
the
back
wall
on
my
kitchen,
but
I
do
clean
it
up
once
in
a
while,
but
I'm
wondering
from
of
all
of
the
talks
and
maybe
sophie,
I
may
put
you
on
the
spot
first.
Well,
actually,
maybe
I'll
back
up
a
bit,
how
much
of
kukan
did
you
actually
watch
while
it
was
airing
broadcasting?
F
E
A
So
the
first
day
I
did
watch
several
live
and
and
then,
as
the
day
went
on,
I
watched
maybe
the
first
10
minutes
you
know
and
then,
as
as
the
conference
went
on,
it
was
a
bit.
You
know
five
minutes
here
and
there
and
then,
like
sophie
said,
I've
really
enjoyed
being
able
to
watch
it
asynchronously
and
then
you
know
really
read
through
them
and
see
which
ones
you
know
made
a
big
impact
so
that
you
know
I
could
use
my
time
wisely
as
well
yeah
how.
B
C
Didn't
watch
any
of
the
sessions
I
did
participate
in
like
the
naming
working
group
and
the
empower
session,
so
the
more
interactive
things,
because
you
know
that's
what
we
miss
about
going
to
the
conferences
is
that
face-to-face
time
the
ability
to
interact
with
other
people.
So
I
tend
to
spend
my
time
doing
that
like
sophie.
If
I'm
not
talking,
I
you
know
and
therefore
there
to
answer
questions.
I
don't
tend
to
go
to
the
video
sessions
because
you
can
see
them
whenever
you
want
yeah.
E
C
You
do
as
the
best
as
you
can,
even
just
comparing
to
openstack
summit
and
the
ptg,
which
were
a
couple
weeks
ago.
You
know
you're
doing
things
like
breakout
rooms
and
zooms,
where
other
people
are
on
video
as
well.
So
the
whole
group
is
together.
So
it's
similar
enough
that
you
are
all
in
one
place
but
like
doing
a
workshop
is
hard
because
normally
I
would
walk
around
the
room,
helping
people
and
I
don't
have
that
ability
and
you
don't
have
the
faces
necessarily
to
know
if
somebody's
with
you
or
whether
they're
having
problems.
B
F
D
That
was
great,
but
but
yeah
we
had
a
lot
going
on
during
cubecon.
Not
just
you
know
with
we
had
the
the
chat
and
the
booth,
but
then
we
had
the
accompanying
slot
channel.
Then
we
had
the
openshift.tv
office
hours
going
on.
I
did
pop
in
to
most
of
the
office
hours,
and
that
was
on
slack
and
on
the
entrado
chat
pretty
constantly,
and
I
was
pretty
happy
to
see
that
we
had
a
really
high
degree
of
engagement
there.
D
B
Yeah,
I
think
he
mentioned
the
keynote.
I
always
dread
having
to
do
something
in
five
minutes,
because,
like
I,
as
most
people
who
know
me,
know
I'm
rather
verbose
and
so
trying
to
encapsulate
that,
I
have
a
lot
a
much
greater
respect
now
for
people
who
have
done
those
five
minute
keynotes
in
the
past.
B
I've
always
been
so
impressed
when
we're
there
in
person
and
we
do
it
and
someone
stands
up
there
on
stage
and
does
it
live
and
has
you
know
this
full-on
thing
and
then
to
do
the
five-minute
keynote
on
the
rise
of
the
end
user
and
and
have
it
pre-recorded
four
weeks
prior
and
then
have
to
show
up
in
the
whatever
the
back
room
dressing
room
hall
way
for
for
on
the
day
of
the
event,
it
was
just.
It
was
a
bizarre
experience.
B
You
know,
because
you
think
of
all
the
things
you
should
have
said
in
those
five
minutes
and
then
it
then
you're
there
and
there
was.
There
was
q,
a
in
slack
but
there's
no
q,
a
in
the
for
the
keynote
speakers
as
we
were
on,
but
we
were
all
in
the
backstage
together.
So
that
was
like
kind
of
this
disconcerting
wonderful
thing.
B
B
Now,
in
its
ga
release,
it's
4.6
just
came
out
the
door
and
we
were
able
to
announce
that
at
kubecon
and
do
some
demo,
a
small
demo
in
the
in
the
buff
on
the
code
ready
container
for
four
for
four
or
five,
which
and
now
four
six
is
out.
So
the
code
ready
continues
in
itself
and
it
was
interesting
to
have
to
do
that
because
openshift
is
a
red
hat.
B
Product
and
okd
is
probably
perceived
as
another
red
hat
product,
but
to
bring
a
kubernetes
distribution
there
and
have
other
people
come
from
the
kubernetes
community
to
talk
about
this
distribution
and
it
was,
I
thought
it
worked
for
us.
It
was
quite
quite
interesting
to
get
people
like
not
from
that
300
group
of
working
group
folks
and
so
in
terms
of
building
some
awareness
of
it
as
a
distribution
and
having
people
ask
pointed
and
good
questions
and
give
us
feedback
and
tell
us
what
else
they
wanted.
B
C
B
So
one
of
the
things
like
I
did
not
get
a
chance
to
see
more
than
the
day
one
keynotes
I
watched
all
of
those-
and
there
were
some
amazing
ones.
Priyanka
is
an
amazing
speaker.
Did
you
know
a
great
tribute
to
dan
cohen
was
who
passed,
and
that
was
pretty
awesome
and
inspiring,
and
there
was
a
woman
who
came
from
apple,
who
gave
a
really
great
keynote
speak
as
well
about
things
that
are
going
there,
and
so
I
got
to
see
most
of
day
one
but
the
rest
of
the
week.
B
So
what
I
was
hoping
today
was
to
ask
you
guys,
which
ones
do
you
recommend
that
we
watch
and
add
to
our
playlist
and
then
I
will
create,
from
this
conversation
a
playlist
of
recommendations
from
our
audience.
So
if
your
audience
has
some,
I
can
see,
walid
is
recommending
the
keynote
panel
with
duffy
ian
roy
mcewen
brad
was
his
number
one
talk
if
you
can
well
eat.
E
So
kind
of
keeping
on
that
theme.
The
talks
that
I
have
caught
up
with
are
those
around
ml
ops,
so
this
ml
ops
notion
is
perhaps
you're
familiar
with
devops
and
devops
practices
for
software
engineering.
That
really
you
know,
benefit
this
continuous
testing
and
integration
and
making
sure
that
your
system
is
robust.
E
We
it's
rare,
that
we
have
that
computer
science
background
and
if
you
have
somebody
in
your
company
that
does
have
that
computer
science
and
machine
learning
background.
Then
I
think
cling
on
to
them
and
appreciate
how
rare
they
are
so
one
lovely
talk
I
watched
was
by
david
aaron
chick
from
microsoft,
and
david
talked
about
this
from
a
security
standpoint.
E
So
why
do
we
need
mlaps
practices
in
order
to
make
our
model
secure?
I
think
we're
seeing
this.
You
know
across
a
lot
of
industries.
There's
concern
that
your
machine
learning
model
isn't
actually
going
to
perform
in
the
way
you
want
it
to
so
the
model
might
lie
or
that
you
know
an
attacker
could
take
over
that
model,
perhaps
using
adversarial
attacks,
or
that
you
can
uncover
some
hidden
data
from
that
model
about
the
people
that
it
was
trained
on.
E
So
this
kind
of
information
leak
from
the
model,
and
so
david
talked
about
how
using
pipeline
tools
that
perhaps
you
know
software
engineers
are
familiar
with
something
like
techton
and
openshift
pipelines
would
be
a
great
example
here
to
kind
of
make
sure
that
you've
got
a
much
better
understanding
of
how
the
pieces
of
your
system
are
fitting
together
and
if
something
has
been
exposed,
because
at
some
point
it
will,
you
are
going
to
get
your
system
hacked.
Then
you
know
how
to
react.
E
You
know
what's
been
exposed
and
you
know
how
to
quickly
update
and
make
changes
to
that
system
to
make
it
more
robust,
and
it's
not
just
from
a
security
standpoint.
You
know
continuously
upgrading
aspects
of
your
system,
these
ecosystems
and
the
kubernetes
world,
especially
with
you
know
the
kubeflow
project,
the
open
data
hub
and
all
of
the
data
science
work
that
we
have
going
on
is
really
quite
fast-moving.
E
There's
new
tools
coming
out
all
the
time
and
a
lot
of
innovation
so
to
be
able
to
use
those
pipelines
and
then
change
things
in
there
is
a
really
sensible
way
to
go.
So
watch
david's
talk
for
an
accessible
introduction
to
how
to
piece
these
things
together
before
I
pass
the
mic,
there's
one
more
talk,
I
want
to
tell
you
about,
and
that
is
a
fabulous
talk
that
I
watched
by
kevin
de
la
rosa
at
snapchat,
so
perhaps
you're
familiar
with
snapchat.
E
It
has
lots
of
machine
learning
in
there
to
augment
photos
and
apply
filters
and
kind
of
lots
of
interactive
and
really
fun
stuff.
That's
using
machine
learning,
and
so
he
talked
about
how
he'd
actually
got
his
system
running
using
these
machine
learning
and
mlabs
practices.
So
how
do
you
take
the
things
that
will-
and
I
talked
about
in
our
talk
and
the
tools
and
techniques
that
david
talked
about
and
actually
use
them
in
practice
on
a
real
application?
B
So
so
that's
that
actually
the
snapchat
one
is
great,
because
and
all
of
those
are
great
I'm
going
to
be
hosting
an
ml
ops.
Ai
ops
comes
gathering
at
the
end
of
january,
so
they're,
you
know
both
all
of
those
and
david.
I
know
well
from
both
his
days
at
google
and
doing
stuff
with
kubeflow
and
he's
he's
an
awesome
talker,
and
you
know
he's
actually
reminding
me
that
I
should
ask
him
to
come
to
that
and
give
a
talk
as
well.
B
So
thanks
but
snapchat
represents
end
users
as
well,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
thought
there
was
a
bit
of
a
shortage
of,
and
I
think
a
bit
of
it
has
to
do
with
virtual
burnout
as
well
were
end
user
case
studies.
So
I
will
definitely
go
dig
out
the
snapchat
one
and
watch
that
that's
a
great
recommendation,
because
I
think
we
we,
as
vendors
and
and
other
folks,
are
so
covetous
of
getting
feedback
and
customers
and
end
users
to
tell
us.
B
If,
if
our
end
user,
if
we're
burning
our
end
users
out
by
asking
them
to
talk
too
much
so
with
that
yeah,
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
that
going
on
and
karina.
Can
I
tap
you
next
to
share,
which
ones
you
thought
were
definitely
musty
or
the
ones
you're
planning
on
viewing
now
when
they
come
out
on
youtube.
A
I
always
love
hearing
sophie
talk,
but
I
think
she
can
make
anybody
excited
about
him
a
lot
seriously.
I
mean
it's
just
awesome
so
now
I
have
to
go
back
and
I
hate
to
say
that
I
didn't
watch
your
talk
sophie
so
now
I'm
gonna
go
watch
it.
That's!
Okay,
thanks
karina
and
of
course
you
know,
will
we
all
love?
Will
I
mean
so
yeah?
A
Why
would
they
be
a
maintainer
if
they're
not
passionate
about
what
they're
doing
I
loved
watching
that
track,
especially
the
argo
cd
and
the
helm,
but
my
favorite
keynote
other
than
diane's,
of
course,
because
I
love
the
rise
of
the
end
users
was
liz
rice's
keynote
all
right
talking
about
predictions,
so
that's
on
day
three
and
now
my
cat's
saying
hi
so
on
day,
three
of
the
keynote.
So
he
called
out
five
predictions,
so
the
chaos
engineering,
the
service
mesh
right
kubernetes
at
the
edge.
A
Okay,
so
does
that
mean
that
it
lessens
the
impact
of
projects
that
have
already
graduated,
because
now
the
requirements
are
going
to
be
stricter,
for
you
know,
sandbox
and
incubating
so
I'm
concerned
about
that.
So
that's
one
thing:
does
that
mean
the
projects
that
got
out
the
door?
First
are
just
the
ones
that
people
got
used
to
now
they're
popular.
Now
they
have
a
name,
and
so
you
know
how's
that
going
to
be
for
the
end
users
and
that
whole
rise
of
the
end
users
right.
If,
if
they're
being
limited,.
B
I
think
he
wrote
the
book
the
new
king
makers
or
the
developers,
and
I
agree
with
that,
but
I
think
cncf
has
and
it
tries
doggedly
to
not
be
king
makers,
but
it
in
some
ways.
It
is
a
de
facto
king-making
organization.
Maybe
queen-making
would
be
a
little
bit
more.
Gender
or
nothing
it's
not
gender
fluid
whatever.
I
can't
think
of
that,
but
anyways
that
it's
it's
really
hard.
B
B
How
much
is
out
there
and
and
and
how
it
connects
with
everything
so
that
that
is
one
of
the
things
I
use
kubecon
for
is
to
try
and
connect
with
those
people
and
and
then
it's
much
easier
to
do
in
person.
So
amy,
I'm
gonna.
If
that's
all
your
recommendations
karina,
am
I
cutting
you
off
with
the
pass
I'll?
Send
you
the
list,
so
you
can.
A
B
F
C
You
know
finding
the
sigs
in
the
working
groups,
because
I
was
going
to
go
to
the
kubernetes
docsig,
couldn't
find
it
on
the
schedule
so
having
the
sched
wasn't
exactly
the
easiest
way
to
find
things,
and
then
I
one
one
thing
I
ran
into
was
my
time
zone
on
the
skid
was
different,
even
though
it
should
have
been
correct.
So
I
was
arriving
at
a
lot
of
stuff
late,
so.
C
C
B
I
think
that's
a
lot
of
what-
and
this
is
the
problem
with
virtual
versus
in
person.
Is
you
get
hallway
recommendations?
You
know
from
people
like
you,
you
see
some,
you
see
a
huge
crowd
gathering
around
a
door
and
you
don't
have
any
sort
of
visual.
So
maybe,
if
there's
a
way
we
can
see,
you
know.
Oh
there's,
you
know
a
hundred
people
in
that
session
or
you
know
two
thousand
people
in
this
session
or
whatever.
That's
it.
C
Let
me
just
peek
in
this
store
and
see
what's
going
on
here.
Oh
this
sounds
interesting,
I'll
stay.
Another
thing
that
I
thought
was
really
interesting
was
even
when
you
found
something
you
wanted
to
go
to
in
the
sky.
There
wasn't
necessarily
a
link,
so
most
of
the
things
I
did
were
rsvp
because
they
were
interactive
and
they
were
off
platform.
C
E
B
C
B
D
So
so
I
definitely
need
to
do
that.
So
I've
got
some
homework
to
do
probably
over
the
holidays.
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
do
that.
I
actually
want
to
take
a
look
at
the
keynotes
a
little
bit
more
because
I
did
hear
from
some
folks
that
it
seemed
like
the
keynotes
were
more
markety,
more
marketing
oriented
in
general
and
that's
a
trend
that
I
kind
of
might
take
note.
I
know,
at
least
from
my
conversations
with
the
cncf
team,
is
that
they're
trying
to
avoid
that?
D
But
since
people
are
making
that
commentary,
I
want
to
actually
just
take
another
look
at
it
and
give
that
feedback.
If
that's
the
case,
I
think
I'm
just
gonna
brag
on
red
hat
a
little
bit.
I
think
we
do
a
really
great
job
with
our
keynote
content,
like
I
don't
think
we
are
guilty
of
kind
of
this
kind
of
marketing
speak.
D
I
think
we
try
to
be
really
relevant
to
the
community
and
to
a
technical
audience,
but
I
know
sometimes
from
other
organizations
aren't,
as
I
guess,
vigilance
about
making
sure
that
that
kind
of
messaging
is
avoided
in
a
community
space,
because
I
always
feel
very
very
strongly
that,
even
if
it's
just
a
five
minute
keynote
like
the
one
you
delivered
that
it
needs
to
be
very
relevant
to
the
audience.
And
so
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
always
looking
to
is
to
make
sure
that
we're
speaking
to
our
audience
appropriately.
D
D
Yeah
and
then,
and
then
and
in
ravage
she
also
did
the
cryo.
She
did
a
keynote
on
cryo,
previously
yeah
and
so
which
was
independent
of
our
sponsored
keynote,
but
it
you
know,
like.
I
think
it's
really
notable
that
we
definitely
are
noted
for
our
leadership
in
the
community
space,
and
so
I'm
really
really
proud
of
that
that
we
are
we're
always
featuring
stuff
related
to
the
community
space,
and
I
think
we
also
have
a
keynote
dedicated
to
operators.
At
one
point.
B
D
B
Something
that
and
people
really
like
that
and
I
think
that's
in
keynotes
there's
two
sides
to
keynotes
and
I
think
walid,
who
was
also
in
chatting.
There
is
a
lot
of
it
was
people
stories,
so
I
don't
think
it
was
actually
marketing
that,
because
I
know
in
our
internal
conversation
recap
that
we
had
as
a
team,
I
don't
think
it
was
marketing
needs
that
people
were
con.
B
It
was,
I
think
there
were
a
lot
of
people
stories
and
less
technical
talks
that
got
our
new
projects
that
got
showcased
on
the
on
the
stage,
and
I
think
that's
that's
something
I
I
always
I
mean
I
would
love
to
have
seen
metal
cubed,
for
example,
a
conversation
about
kubernetes
on
bare
metal.
You
know.
D
B
B
It
was
one
of
the
on-demand
talks
with
andre
toast
so
that
you
know
the
above
about
operators
on
creating
custom
operators.
So
I
there's
this
there's
this
kind
of
interplay
of
having
making
it
feel
like
a
community,
so
we
feel
engaged
and
we
see
ourselves
on
stage
and
doing
you
know
that
kind
of
good
work
and
being
inclusive
and
also
making
sure
that
the
content
is
technical
enough
to
you
know,
teach
us
something
you
know
sometimes
we're
teaching
about
ourselves
and
sometimes
we're
teaching
about
the
technology.
B
So
I
think
that's
really
it
and
I
can
see
if
you
can
tell
the
sun
has
come
out
where
I
am
and
I'm
gonna
pause
for
a
minute
and
maybe
karina
other
things
around
the
work
that
you're
doing.
I
know
there
were
a
lot
of
ibm
folks,
yeah,
I'm
a
little
blinded
by
the
light
at
the
moment.
Thanks
for
that
comment
in
there
that
other
things,
maybe
any
of
the
ibm
stuff
that
did
that
you're
working
with
I
know
you
work
closely
with
the
cloud
packs
folks
as
well.
B
A
I
just
said
I
did
not
look
for
the
ibm
talks.
I
know
we're
and
I
know
this
is
recorded
and
I'm
sorry
everybody
I
was
looking
for
the
more
the
technology
and
what
not
specifically
you
know,
ibm.
I
know,
there's
ibm
people
that
you
know
we.
We
know
that
are
actively
engaged
in
different
communities,
so.
B
A
And
that's
why
I
really
loved
collaborating
with
andre
on
that
talk
because
it
wasn't
it
wasn't
a
product
pitch
right,
we're
just
talking
about
so
I
didn't
think
about
it
as
an
ibm
red
hat
talk.
We
were
just
talking
about.
How
would
you
you
know,
create
your
custom
catalogs
and
you
know,
use
your
your
bundles
and
everything
so
anyway.
That's
what
I
love
about
the
collaboration
and
all
the
community
work.
B
B
You
know
not
to
make
a
king
maker
and
make
that
you
know,
but
just
give
them
the
space,
but
it's
also,
you
know,
I
think,
for
me.
What
I
would
have
liked
to
have
seen
is
even
just
a
series
of
lightning
talks
for
all
of
the
sandbox
folks
and
or
you
know
their
own
slack
channel.
You
know
kubecon
conference
sandboxers.
A
D
No,
I
was
just
going
to
say
that,
just
from
a
logistical
standpoint,
we're
finding
that
research
related
to
virtual
events
is
that
people
will
digest
the
content
much
better
if
it's
in
shorter
bites
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
also
realizing
like
in
the
virtual
booth.
We
used
to
like
kind
of
kitchen
sink
all
this
content
and
realize
that
we
have
to
really
really
refine
things
in
terms
of
people's
attention
spans.
B
People
will
watch
22
minutes
of
anything.
So
I
don't.
We
could
say
anything
right
now,
because
this
is
the
end.
You
know
towards
the
end
of
the
talk,
and
you
know
I
could
talk
about.
You
know
the
fact
that
I
don't
have
a
dog
right
now
and
it's
bothering
me
and
I
really
need
a
puppy
and
no
one
will
notice
that
or
I
could
embed
a
coupon
for
starbucks
and
your
grandmother's
still
watching
great
sophie
good.
B
And
yeah
I'll
take
your
dog,
but
not
your
noisy
cat
karina.
So
I
think
that's,
that's
really!
An
interesting
conundrum
is
like.
If
you
want
to
do
a
technical,
deep
dive
and
it's
you
can't
do
a
technical,
deep
dive
in
five
minutes
or
less
I'll.
Take
the
cat's,
not
my
thing.
No,
you
keep
throwing
that
cat
up
in
the
window.
You
try
and
give
away
that
cat
there.
Yeah
okay
well
lead
in
waleed.
Where
are
you
based,
though,
are
you
in
saudi
arabia?
Can
she
ship
a
cat
to
saudi
yeah?
B
I
don't
think
we
could
get
it
through
customs
for
you
in
time,
but
I
I
think
that
we
really
have
to
figure
out.
Not
only.
How
do
we
keep
people's
attention
and
I
used
to
think
it
was
by
getting
getting
people
to
come.
Was
writing
the
best
title
for
my
talk
like
the
rise
of
the
end
users
or
something
that
would
catch
people's
attention
as
they
went
down
through
the
schedule?
And
I
don't
think
that's
enough.
B
Clearly,
it's
not
enough
and
clearly
I'm
I'm,
I'm
not
really
totally
comfortable
with
just
five
minutes.
Those
trinity
titles
make
you
cringe.
I
spend
copious
amounts
of
time
sophie
coming
up
with
those
crazy
titles,
so
so
anyways.
So
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
and
the
other
thing
and
amy
you
touched
on.
B
Heavy
things
where
we're
pushing
content
out
with
maybe
offering
certifications
like
online
tests
during
the
during
the
event
itself,
but
I
think
the
interactivity
component
is
and
trying
to
figure
out
the
best
way
to
master
online
courses
and
and
do
that
in
a
way
that's
pulling
in
pulling
people
in
as
opposed
to
pushing
all
this
content
out.
That's
been
mine,
so
I
I
know
also
amy.
You
said
you
went
to
some
of
the
social
things.
C
I
did
because
I
miss
people,
so
I
went
to
the
trivia
nights,
the
disney
and
the
mcu
nights,
and
it
was
really
great
because
you
got
matched
up
with
people
you
didn't
know,
and
while
you
were
working
on
the
questions,
you
went
off
to
your
own
zoom
room.
A
lot
of
people
had
their
families
participating,
so
it
was
a
great
way
to
interact
with
other
people
for
your
family
to
interact
with
the
conference.
C
C
B
A
friend
of
mine
hosted
for
vmware
one
of
the
vmware
and
invited
me
to
a
want,
a
virtual,
japanese,
whiskey
tasting
which
was
kind
of
torture,
because
they
had
this
expert
from
tokyo.
Who
runs
these
programs
and
she
hired
him,
and
he
had.
He
was
explaining
this
and
the
history
of
japanese
whiskey
and
it
was
fabulous
and
it
would,
I
think
it
was.
I
think
there
were
about
10
to
15
women,
so
the
smaller,
more
intimate
things
too
are
also.
B
I
think
michael
waite
hosted
some
sort
of
beer
and
cocktails
thing
on
day,
one
or
day
zero
as
well
for
red
hat
partners,
and
so
the
littler
and
the
more
social
aspects
are
things
that
that
that
really
have
I've
connected
with
at
other
conferences.
How
about
the
rest
of
you?
What
were
what
were
the
other
any
interactive
things
that
you've
done
recently
that
you
thought
worked.
E
B
I
think
it
it's
good,
it's
gonna,
be
it's
it's
tough.
I
think
we
I
I
found
the
most
connectivity
for
kubecon
in
the
slack
channels,
not
I
mean
no
offense
to
the
red
hat
booth.
It
was
good
and
there
were
lots
of
people
there
and
there
were
some
amazing
interactive
games
that
got
set
up
and
some
schwag
was
given.
B
So
that
was
cool,
but
I
found
that
when
I
was
in
the
cncf
slack,
not
the
kubernetes
slack,
but
the
cncf
had
set
up
a
nice
structure
for
each
of
the
sessions
and
for
speakers
back
rooms
and
stuff
like
that
that
that's
where
I
ended
up
actually
connecting
with
people.
That
was
the
true
hallway
back
room
for
kubecon
itself,
and
we
did
a
bit
of
stuff.
We.
B
We
live
streamed
the
openshift
commons
day
on
openshift
tv,
and
then
we
hosted
those
office
hours
and
that
was
pretty
interactive
and
that
that
came
out
pretty
cool
and
I'll
add
some
links
to
those,
but
it
even
the
links
to
some
of
the
interactive
stuff.
Even
you
don't
get
the
vibe,
it
was.
You
know
like
walid
and
the
other
folks
who
are
in
chat,
chattering
away.
I
didn't
you
didn't
after
the
event
was
over,
they
erased
or
they
shut
down
all
of
the
the
slack
channels
that
were
conference
specific.
B
So
you
lost
the
history
thread,
so
they
were
archived
yes,
so
I
couldn't
and
you
can't
get
back
to
them.
I
don't
think
you
can
get
back
to
them
now,
but
that
is
one
thing
I
would
have
kept
those
around
a
bit
longer
so
that
those
folks
that
I
didn't
take
their
details
from,
but
I
could
find
and
track
them
down
again,
so
that
was
that
was
kind
of
there.
So.
A
B
B
I
talked
with
a
wonderful
gentleman
from
deutsche
telekom
for
a
long
time
in
back
in
the
background-
and
you
know
and
and
other
platforms
other
than
slack
didn't
slack
just
got
bought
by
salesforce
yep.
Yesterday
yesterday,
yeah
geez,
I
can't
keep
up
with
this
stuff.
Well,
let's
hope
it
doesn't
get
totally
integrated
into
salesforce.com
and
everybody
becomes
a
customer,
but
I
bet
that's
happening
in
the
background
somewhere
someone's
thinking
about
that,
hopefully
they'll
keep
it
like.
Microsoft
did
with
github
and
still
semi-independent
there.
It's
going.
A
E
B
Concerned
about
this,
but
I'm
very
concerned
about
that.
That's
I
I
live
in
bree
I
mean
I,
I
lived
and
breathed
in
irc
prior
to
slack
and
now
I've
been
convinced.
That
slack
is
the
end
all
and
be
all
of
everything,
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
people
because
you
don't
read:
watch
past
22
minutes
no
one's
going
to
hear
that
and
and
troll
me
for
that,
but
I
think
that's
that's
kind
of
the
interesting
thing.
C
B
Yeah
they
usually
do
that
with
the
contributor
summit
and
and
they
have
and
josh
burkis
and
paris,
pittman
and
and
stephen
augustus
and
other
folks
do
a
great
job
with
that,
and
so,
but
I
didn't
get
to
any
of
those.
So
I'll
have
to
look
through
the
schedule
to
see
if
there
were
any
newbie
sessions
and
and
add
them
into
the
playlist
too
and
flag.
Those
because
I
didn't
do
that,
but
yeah.
B
B
So
I
think
that's
a
tough
one
to
do
and
on
that
note
I
did
see
the
announcement
and
I
love
american
optimists,
and
I
and
I
really
hope
it's
true,
but
we
are
going
to
host
kukan
north
america
next
year
in
los
angeles
in
october,
and
I
am
so
hoping
I'm
so
not
only
is
it
because
my
brother
and
my
nephews
live
there
and
I'll
get
to
see
them.
You
know
probably
the
first
time
I
move.
B
I'll,
add
that
in
too
so,
if
you
go
to
youtube
for
rh
openshift,
there's
a
great
playlist
of
everything
karina
diane
fedema,
who
didn't
end
up
being
able
to
join
us
as
an
okd
talk,
there's
tons
of
great
talks
there
as
well,
but
hopefully
we'll
see
you
all
in
la
in
october,
if
not
sooner
virtually
so
take
care
all
and
thank
you
for
sharing
today
with
me.
I
really
appreciate
your
insights.