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Description
Discover how Red Hat Enterprise Linux delivers the stability and security demanded by your mission-critical workloads with the freedom to innovate and transform for the future. RHEL 8.5 is full of improvements, new features and is easier to access and test out. We meet with the RHEL Technical Marketing Team to talk about the new release and how you can get your hands on it!
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Eric The IT Guy Hendricks: Twitter @itguyeric
Scott McBrien: Twitter @Stabby_Mc
Don Pinto : https://www.linkedin.com/in/donpinto/
Matthew Yee, RHEL Technical Marketing Manager
A
A
Hello
time
appropriate
greetings.
Thank
you
all
for
joining
us
today.
My
name
is
eric.
The
it
guy
hendrix-
and
this
is
rel-
presents
episode
number
24..
Today,
we've
got
an
awesome
show
for
you.
I
am
going
to
be
in
bringing
on
a
few
of
my
co-workers
here
and
we
are
going
to
mute.
My
confidence
monitor,
but
we've
got
an
awesome
show
for
you
today,
because
just
this
morning,
red
hat
announced
the
release
of
red
hat
enterprise.
Linux
8.5
for
beta
I'm
sorry,
the
rel
9.0
beta
was
just
announced
and
released.
A
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
bring
on
my
co-workers.
First
off
you,
you
all
know
him
and
we
were
all
excited
to
drag
him
back
on.
For
this
episode.
Let's
say
hello
to
scott
mcbryan.
B
Yeah
been
been
busy.
A
Yeah,
how
how's
life
on
the
on
the
level
up
hour.
B
A
That's
awesome
yeah,
so
if
you,
if
you
haven't,
if
you
haven't
been
following
scott,
go
join
him
on
the
level
up
hour.
A
part
of
red
hat
live
streaming
also
would
like
to
mention
that
I
believe
scott
myself,
a
few
others,
are
all
hanging
out
on
the
red
hat:
live
streaming
discord
server.
So
if,
if
you
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
conversation
when
when
the
show
is
live,
and
even
when
it's
not
come
and
hang
out
with
us
there,
the
link
will
be
in
the
show
notes
below.
A
But
before
we
get
started,
I
want
to
introduce
one
other
person
to
you
and
that
would
be
matthew
yi.
He
is
a
technical
marketing
manager
with
us
here
at
red
hat,
he's
a
co-worker
of
scott
and
mine
he's.
He
is
the
guru
of
all
things,
satellites
system,
roles,
ansible,
all
kinds
of
stuff,
so
matt,
you
want
to
say
hello,.
A
All
right,
so
we
do
have
one
other
technical
marketing
manager,
but
he
he
had
a
thing
with
microsoft.
So
he'll
be
joining
us
here
in
a
few
minutes,
we'll
we'll
get
him
introduced
once
he
once
he
jumps
over
from
that
don's
a
really
popular
guy
today.
So
I
guess
I
guess
microsoft.
We
we
can.
We
can
let
let
him
use
that
excuse.
A
All
right,
so,
let's
dive
right
in
rel,
8.5
general
availability
is
coming
up
here
in
just
a
couple
of,
and
actually
I'm
not
sure
of
the.
D
A
We've
got:
we've
got
a
lot
of
the
beta
bits
in
place
and
rell
9.0
just
went
beta
availability
this
morning,
so
you
can
go
and
download
those
bits.
So
we've
got
a
lot
to
talk
about.
There's
rel
8.5,
there's
rel
9.0
beta,
so
there's
a
lot
going
on.
So
I
didn't
want
to
have
to.
I
didn't
want
to
cover
everything.
So
I
brought
on
scott
and
matt
and
don
to
help
me
kind
of
talk
through
things
and
edward
I'll
get
I'll
find
out.
A
What's
going
on
with
the
discord
link
here
in
just
a
second,
while
I'm
looking
at
that
scott,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
single
you
out
and
and
why?
Why
would
we
want
to
upgrade?
Why
why
why
not
keep
keep
what's
working.
A
B
Excellent,
no
pressure,
I
mean.
B
Yes,
all
the
things
the
biggest
thing
right
now
is:
you
know,
with
red
hat
enterprise,
linux
8
we
announced
that
we're
going
to
be
keeping
a
predictable
release
cadence.
So
every
six
months
we
come
up
with
a
new
minor
release
of
red
hat
enterprise,
linux
8,
since
it
was
released
in
may
2019.
B
Now,
with
each
minor
release,
we
get
some
new
features,
some
improvements,
and
it's
going
to
continue
like
that
for
for
the
next
couple
of
years,
while
we
finish
out
the
full
support
life
cycle
of
rel
eight
and
we're
going
to
talk
today
about
some
of
those
new
features
and
enhancements
that
are
coming
in
8.5,
which
to
the
eighth
doctor's
comment
soon,
it's
the
the
answer
that
all
the
people
love
about
when
something
will
be
done
soon.
B
I
think,
more
importantly,
especially
in
light
of
the
9-0
beta
release
that
we
had
this
morning
with
this
predictable
release
cadence.
We
also
said
new
majors
every
three
years
right,
so
if
oops
may
2019
was
rel,
eight
then
mid
2022
is
run
nine
right.
You
could
see
that
we're
on
track
for
meeting
that
and
as
a
administrator
or
architect
or
team
manager
or
app
developer.
This
gives
you
a
lot
of
information
that
previously
you
didn't
really
have
with
red
hat.
B
Let
me
fix
some
of
that
kind
of
stuff
with
application
streams,
but
with
three
year
majors,
you
know
we're
going
to
pick
up
a
lot
more
of
that,
and
so
today,
if
you
were
planning
on
doing
a
new
project,
you
could
have
a
serious
discussion
with
your
stakeholders,
of
whether
you
should
target
rail
8
for
being
the
basis
of
that
project,
knowing
that
it
has
about
two
and
a
half
years
of
full
life
cycle
left,
followed
by
another
five
years
of
maintenance
or
if
you
should
start
work
on
your
project
on
rel
nine
beta,
expecting
that
it's
gonna
ga
in
mid
2022
and
then
have
10
years
five
years
of
full
support.
B
A
No,
I
think
I
think
you
hit
on
a
couple
of
really
important
points.
I
mean
we.
We
all
know
that
linus
torvalds
likes
to
change
kernel,
major
versions
or
minor
versions
at
kind
of
random
intervals.
You
know
he
he
was.
He
was
quoted,
as
you
know,
running
out
of
fingers
and
toes
to
count
on.
So
it
was
time
for
a
new
major
version
of
the
kernel
and,
while
that's
well,
that's
kind
of
something
that
the
community
and
kernel
developers
look
forward
to
it's,
it's
some
whimsy
in
in
an
otherwise
very
regulated
space.
A
That's
not
what
I'd
want
to
do
as
a
systems
administrator
I've
been
in
that
role,
I've.
I
know
what
it's
like
to
try
and
think.
Okay,
we've
got
hardware
refresh
coming
up,
we've
got
operating
systems
that
need
updates.
So
what
do
I
really?
How
do
I
plan?
Is
it
this
year?
Is
it
next
year?
Is
it
going
to
be
a
seven
year
life
cycle?
Is
it
going
to
be
a
15
year,
life
cycle,
which
I
think
rel
six
was
was
quite
a
long
time
now
all
those
questions
have
have
been
taken
away.
A
I
don't
have
to
worry
about.
I
don't
have
to
worry
about.
When
do
I
need
to
plan
on
the
next
major
release?
When
do
I
run
out
of
support
on
this
thing
that
two
people
use
that
I
can't
seem
to
get
rid
of
now?
I've
got
a
I've
got
a
definitive
date,
or
at
least
at
least
down
to
a
quarter,
if
not
a
month
where
I
can
say
that.
A
Look
this
thing
we're
going
to
lose
support
it's
going
away.
It's
not
going
to
get
any
any
security
bugs
any
fixes,
nothing
past
the
state.
So
even
if
the
two
of
you
still
use
this
this
one
random
database,
it's
we've
gotta
move.
We've
gotta
update,
we've
gotta
move
to
something
else
somewhere
else
heck.
Nowadays,
let's
just
put
that
database
in
a
container
and
and
address
the
underlying
operating
system
at
least
well
and.
B
It
also
like.
Not
only
can
you
have
those
discussions
but
like
and
know
that
those
dates
are
coming.
You
also
know
that
you
should
start
planning
for
it
and,
if
you're
going
to
be
replacing
an
application,
you
can
also
start
budgeting
for
it
or
asking
for
budget
to
be
allocated
to
it.
If
it's
really
mission
critical
for
your
organization,
I
saw
a
couple
of
questions
from
the
8th
doctor
there.
B
How
often
is
new
python
being
released?
So
I
think
that
we're
probably
hitting
about
the
right
stride
on
on
that
and
let's
say
that
just
the
world
lines
up
just
right
and
new
node.js
stable
comes
out
a
day
after
rel
8.5
comes
out.
Well,
you
know
what
8.6
is
only
six
months
away
and
you'll
you'll
see
it
there.
So
you
know,
is
it
down
to
the
day
or
the
hour
or
the
second
of
release?
B
No,
but
you
know
we
also
do
a
lot
of
testing
and
variety
of
other
things,
so
we're
still
pretty
bound
to
the
release,
schedule
and
cadence
and
that's
how
we
organize
all
of
our
engineering
work,
but
I
think
that
ultimately
like
for
most
customers,
it's
it's
probably
the
right
amount
and
then
for
15
years,
like
I
can
tell
you
some
stories
that
will
cover
your
hair.
If
you
don't
already
have
curly
hair
so.
A
Well,
and
and
the
the
ubi
process
does
have
built
into
it,
the
ability
to
release
say
there's
a
critical
vulnerability
found
within
a
particular
container.
There
is
the
ability
to
release
out
of
band,
but
I
I'm
with
scott
is
depending
on
the
release
cadence
of
some
of
these
different
development
tools
or
languages
or
language
frameworks.
Six
months
seems
to
kind
of
hit
everybody,
and
the
worst
case
is,
if
there's
a
feature
in
the
next
version
of
of
a.
A
If
there's,
if
there's
a
feature
in
the
next
version,
you
there
are
ways
to
play
with
that
version
without
without
the
official
supported
package.
But
the
the
good
news
is
that
you
know
that
at
most,
a
new
feature
is
only
going
to
be
six
months
away
and
speaking
of
development
frameworks
and
languages
as
if
on
cue,
we,
we
thought
his
name
enough
times
that
I'd
like
to
bring
on
the
fourth
member
of
our
team,
and
that
would
be
mr
don
pinto
don
welcome
aboard.
D
Thank
you
eric.
This
is
great
and
it's
great
to
be
live
on.
This
live
streaming
show
for
the
first
time.
I
guess.
A
Yeah
welcome
you
and
you
and
matt
are
first
timers,
and
I
mean
we.
We
kicked
scott
off
because
you
know
yeah
hannah
scott.
So,
but
why
don't
you
tell
us
a
bit
about
yourself
and
and
what
you
do
and
then
I
think
this
would
be
a
perfect
time
to
to
weigh
in
on
containers
and
development
frameworks.
That
kind
of
thing.
D
Sure
yeah,
so
since
you
talked
about
development
I'll
like
to
use
that
to
kind
of
introduce
a
little
bit
of
what
I
do,
so
I'm
I'm
on
the
rel
technical
marketing
team
here
so
really
happy
to
be
here
on
this
live
streaming
again
and
one
of
the
different
aspects,
if
you
will
of
rel
that
I
you
know,
look
at
or
focus
on
from
the
developer
angle
would
be
definitely
things
like
you
know
app
streams,
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
on.
D
You
know,
maybe
some
of
the
cool
stuff
which
is
coming
in
8.5,
maybe
not
everything
but
I'll
touch
upon
a
few
things
and
the
other
aspect
is
workload
so
eric.
You
also
mentioned
you
know,
databases
and
so
that
caught
my
attention
and
definitely
if
there's
time,
we'll,
definitely
show
a
demo
to
the
audience
here
of
how
we
can
use
rel
to
run.
You
know,
sql
server,
but
starting
with
data
development,
just
really
wanted
to
touch
up
on
two
things
very
quickly.
D
One
of
them
is
around
open,
jdk
support,
so
we
for
rel.
We
have
a
huge
ecosystem
and
if
you
look
at
like
developers,
they
love
java
and
they
love
love.net.
These
are
among
the
other
languages
right,
so
these
are
really
popular
languages,
and
so
I
want
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
on
the
open,
jdk
17,
which
has
been
announced
as
a
part
of
rel
8.5
right.
So
some
of
the
cool
things
you
know.
D
I
don't
count
me
here
for
being
a
guru
of
everything
of
java,
but
some
of
the
highlights,
if
you
will
are
things
like
a
new
random
number
generator
some
of
the
star.
You
know
some
of
the
work
which
has
been
gone
down
around
like
floating
point
consistencies
just
so
that
you
can
build
apps
which
are
numerically,
you
know,
sensitive,
so
suppose,
you're
you're,
building
like
a
a
an
app
which
requires
precision
of
numerics
right.
So
then
you
would
you
know
there
were
some
benefits.
You
can
definitely
get
from
this
java
new
java
version.
D
You
also
touched
a
little
bit
about
ubi
eric,
so
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
on
yet
all
of
this
stuff
that
you,
if
you're
not
you
know,
you
don't
want
to
download
the
open,
jdk
you're
still
using
an
old
version
of
of
java
development
kit,
you
can
try
openjdk17
in
a
real
ubi
container,
so
that
is
another
option
for
you
to
go
and
experience.
If
you
just
don't
want
to
install
it.
D
Natively
moving
along
maybe.net
just
wanted
to
talk
for
the
dot
net
fans
on
on
the
stream
here,
so
there's
dot
net
core
six,
which
is
part
of
again
rel
8.5,
and
some
of
the
cool
things
you
could
get
out
of
net
six
are
support
for
websockets.
D
So
I
know
a
lot
of
like
people
who
are
building
chat,
kind
of
applications
who
you
know
where
websockets
are
an
important
part
of
that
application
stack,
would
maybe
benefit
from
something
like
or
the
improvements
that
are
put
into
dot
net
six
core
and
plenty
others.
I
mean
I
only
touched
on
two
languages.
I
mean
scott
touched
upon,
like
all
the
you
know,
whether
it's
python,
whether
it's
node
you
name
it
right,
go.
I
think,
that's
there's
a
lot
of
things
in
app
streams
that
people
should
try
out.
A
A
So
actually
don,
I
did
want
to
highlight
one
thing
about
developer
if
there
were
maybe
a
resource
that
would
dive
into
any
of
these
languages.
The
red
hat
sponsors
that
you'd
like
to
promote.
D
Yeah,
absolutely
so
there
is,
there
is
the
website
I
can
just
put
it
in
the
chat
and
for
those
who
are
developers
on
the
call
check
out
developers.redhat.com.
So
if
you
check
out
developers.com
you
can
you
can
click
on.
You
know
we
have
a
huge
product
set
there.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
portfolio
click
on
linux,
because
you
know
we
since
we're
talking
about
well
here.
I
highly
recommend
you
to
check
some
of
the
cool
stuff
we
have.
D
You
know
we
have
documented
on
that
page,
whether
it's
tutorials,
whether
it's
cheat
sheets,
whether
it's
listening
to
videos
and
these
assets,
can
go
deep
in
a
particular
topic.
So
if
you're
a
java
developer,
you
could
find
you
know
way
more
than
I
can.
You
know,
at
least
you
know
kind
of
say
this
on
the
call
right
everything
you
know
I
fee
for
me,
it's
a
daily
resource.
You
know
I
feel,
for
developers
to
go
and
check
out
some
of
the
most
innovative
stuff.
D
Red
hat
has
been
doing
in
terms
of
development
on
that
site.
So
again,
developers.com
and
you
know,
use
that
site
to
also
get
access
to
the
beta
bits.
We're
also
launched
rel,
nine
beta
so
for
folks
who
want
to
stay
on
the
cutting
edge
and
want
to
try
it
out
and
give
real
nine
beta
spin.
That
is
the
page.
A
Perfect
so
I
I
did
see
a
question
in
the
chat
about
rel
nine
beta
and
about
the
beta
program
we'll
touch
on
that
here
in
just
a
second,
but
before
we
do
I
have
to,
I
have
to
give
props
to
matt.
He
was
he
he
jumped
onto
the
the
stream
long
before
I
did
and
and
he's
been
waiting
very
patiently
so
matt.
Why
don't
you
tell
us
a
bit
about
what
you've
been
working
on
with
the
new
release
and
and
and
what?
C
C
System
roles
are
kind
of
an
extension
of
that
they
are
pre-canned
rules
created
and
supported
by
red
hat
that
allow
you
to
configure
your
red
hat
enterprise,
linux
hosts
to
conform
to
specific
configurations
or
preparation
for
the
installation
of
specific
applications
like
sap,
and
they
are.
I
guess.
The
main
message
I
would
like
to
take
like
everyone
to
take
away
here
is
that
they
are
supported
by
red
hat
with
specific
to
satellite.
C
We
released
the
beta
for
satellite
6.10
a
little
while
ago,
and
the
g8
well,
satellite
610
should
go
ga
by
next
week.
So
we're
very
excited
for
that.
The
two
main
important
things
that
we'd
like
people
to
know
about
satellite
6.10
is
we've
revamped
the
content
management
system
in
satellite,
which
means
that
a
lot
of
the
underlying
plumbing
has
been
modernized.
C
We've
collapsed
the
database
from
mongodb
and
postgresql
into
a
single
postgre
sql
database
and
we've
added
support.
We've
added,
better
support
for
just
the
disconnected
satellite
use
case,
which
means
that
you
can
now
more
easily
synchronize
content
to
disconnected
sites
which
have
satellite
installed.
A
So,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
satellite
and
if,
if
anything
that
matt
just
said
just
went
right
over
your
head,
then
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
tease
it.
Matt
episode
25
in
two
weeks,
is
going
to
be
about
satellite
we're
going
to
do
an
introduction
to
satellite.
I
think
we've
got
some
some
demo
content
ready
to
go
so
it'll,
be
about
it'll,
be
about
how
to
register
systems.
A
How
satellite
can
help
you
produce
some
of
that
content
or
manage
some
of
your
some
of
your
content,
not
from
like
a
video
perspective
but
from
a
like
a
packaging
perspective
life
cycle
management.
So
if,
if
satellite
is
something
new
to
you,
if
it's
something
that
you're
interested
in
if
you're
familiar
with,
say
foreman
or
spacewalk,
and
are
curious
to
see
how
red
hat
utilizes,
those
particular
upstream
projects
definitely
tune
in
in
two
weeks,
episode,
25
matt
will
be
joining
me
again.
A
Live
on
air
on
youtube
and
twitch,
so
feel
free
to
to
join
us
here
in
a
couple
weeks
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
satellite.
C
A
Yeah,
that's
that's
good!
That's
good
clarification!
So
shifting
gears
a
little
bit.
We
mentioned
the
the
beta
program
and
in
in
the
chat
and
I'll
I'll
repost
it
here
in
a
second.
There
is
a
link
to
the
new
beta
experience.
So
I've
been
asked
a
few
times.
Yeah,
it's
great
you've,
you've
got
you've,
got
you've,
got
the
new
bits
available
as
part
of
as
part
of
the
beta
process.
But
how
do
I
get
a
hold
of
those?
A
Do
I
need
a
subscription
so
with
with
the
nino
beta
release
and
with
the
8.5
beta
you
can
now
you
can
now
you
don't
need
to
have
a
subscription.
You
don't
need
to
pay
for
any
licensing.
You
can
just
go
on
to
access.redhat.com,
make
sure
you
have
an
account
created
and
you
can
download
the
beta
bits
and
you
can
try
them
out.
A
Beta
may
not
be
the
best
branding
because
I
think
it
kind
of
gives
us
all
an
idea.
Think
of
these
as
more
of
release
candidates,
because
we're
making
changes
to
the
to
the
beta
program.
We
we
changed
the
life
cycle
in
rail
eight
and
so
now,
with
real
nine
we're
paying
more
attention
to
the
beta.
A
How
how
do
I
get
things
in
the
hands
of
users
a
little
bit
earlier,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we're
sort
of
piloting
right
now
is
more
of
a
release
candidate
view
to
where
you
can
just
install
it,
try
out
the
new
bits
and
see
if
it
works,
but
there's
no
road
back
into
the
ga
release.
So
if
you
install
the
eight
five
beta
you're
going
to
have
to
re,
do
a
reinstall
for
eight
five
ga,
so
we're
hoping
to
make
changes
as
we
move
forward
to
make
that
easier.
A
So,
if
you
weren't
aware,
fedora
is
actually
the
upstream
to
red
hat
enterprise
linux,
so
the
upgrade
process
in
fedora,
which
shout
out
to
the
fedora
team
version,
35
just
came
out
yesterday.
I
actually
have
plans,
probably
tomorrow
to
reinstall
fedora
on
my
laptop.
A
I'm
really
excited
about
fedora
35,
but
if
you're
curious,
where
rel
is
going
fedora,
the
upstream
fedora
and
the
centos
stream
great
places
to
get
information
and
see
what's
coming
in
rel,
so
the
the
upgrade
and
beta
processes
for
rel
are
going
to
start
to
look
more
and
more
and
more
like
that
of
fedora.
A
A
and
I've
not
had
any
problems,
and
so
now
rel
is
going
to
be
easier
than
ever
to
do
that
so
rel7
to
rel
eight
there's
the
leap
tool
for
in-place
upgrades
we're
all
eight
to
nine.
We
expect
that
process
to
be
even
more
seamless,
even
easier,
so
check
out
the
the
what's
new
in
the
beta
program
link
in
the
show
notes
and
in
the
chat
guys
did.
I
did.
I
leave
anything
out
as
far
as
the
beta
program.
B
Sounds
good?
Are
we
getting
into
eight
five
now.
A
All
right
so
we've
we've
talked
for
like
25
minutes,
and
I
know
the
guys
are
just
itching
to
to
get
hands
on
keyboard,
and
I
know
that's
why
you
all
tune
in
not
to
hear
me
speak
but
to
to
see
if
we
can
actually
break
things
live
on
air
which
I've
I've
proven
to
have
a
really
great
success
rate
at
breaking
things.
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
the
goal,
but
that's
usually
what
happens
so,
let's
let
me
check
who's,
who
wants
to
go
first
either
that
or
make
you
draw.
Straws
live
on
air.
C
C
I
feel
like
I
didn't,
give
a
very
good
intro
to
system
rules
just
now,
but
you're,
probably
asking
yourself.
Why
do
I
care,
and
why
would
I
want
to
install
system
rules,
system
rules,
as
I
mentioned
before,
they're
for
configuring,
your
host
automatically?
C
You
can
it's
based
on
ansible,
it's.
That
means
it's.
C
You
can
run
the
system,
rules
playbook
multiple
times
and
get
the
same
results
it's
useful
because,
as
I
think
many
of
us
already
know
on
the
stream
here,
if
you're
managing
tens,
hundreds,
thousands
of
hosts
configuring,
all
of
them
with
the
as
the
number
of
hosts
increases,
becomes
an
impossible
task,
so
we
use
we
our
preferred
choices
to
have
people
use
system
rules
to
configure
their
hosts,
and
these
hosts
are
sorry,
these
these
system
roles
that
we
ship
with
rel
they're
like
for
those
of
you
who
are
who
are
familiar
with
ansible
you're,
probably
asking
yourself
what.
C
Why
is
this
special
like?
Why
do
I
care
about
these
system
rules?
The
the
first
part
of
that
answer
is,
first
of
all,
they
come
with
your
rel
subscription.
Second
of
all,
these
are
not
simple
playbooks.
These
are
actually
pretty
complex.
C
C
These
sorts
of
things
are
hundreds
of
lines
of
code
in
order
to
give
you
this
capability,
so
I
mean
with
that
I'll
just
dive
right
in
here,
like
so
assuming
that
you
are
working
with
a
fresh
rail
installation
and
you've
done
nothing
else
to
it.
You've
added
the
subscription.
The
first
thing
you
want
to
do
is
enable
the
ansible
repo.
C
A
A
Fedora
releases
have
about
a
nine
month,
life
cycle,
I
think
so
it
it
it
passed
on
a
long
time
ago.
A
I
think
what
8th
doctor
was
talking
about
was
doing
in-place
upgrades
on
the
same
system
since,
since
21.
C
A
A
C
In
case
anyone's
wondering
where
what
this
is,
this
is
a
platform
we're
using
called
instruct
you
can
get
to
it
by
typing
in
play
dot.
I
n
s,
t
r:
u,
q,
t
dot
com
at
forward,
slash
r,
h
e
l
yeah.
Thank
you,
okay,
so.
A
So
instruct,
if
you're,
if
you're
not
totally
familiar,
is
a
competitor
to
catacota
and
we
actually,
the
four
of
us,
have
been
spending
a
lot
of
time,
building
out
new
labs
and
we're
going
to
be
releasing
them
soon
to
to
keep
with
the
theme,
but
so
keep
an
eye
on
lab.redhat.com
for
for
more
more
labs
and
contents.
Just
like
what
matt's,
showing
today.
C
What
I
have
in
there
is
a
hypothetical
playbook
containing
two
system
roles.
So
if
you
feel
like
you
have
to
play
around
with
your
kernel
settings-
and
you
want
to
change
the
swappiness
of
a
vm,
you
can
do
it
with
system
rules
and,
let's
skip
down
here.
So
what's
what's
our
swappiness
set
up
right
now,
so
for
anyone
who
doesn't
know
what
this
kernel
parameter
does
30,
as
you
see
on
the
screen
here
means
30
percent.
It
means
that
start
doing
a
bunch
of
swapping
after
your
memory
reaches
30
30
capacity.
C
I
mean
systems
have
so
much
ram
these
days.
I
don't
know
why
anyone
cares.
C
B
That's
correct
and
so
like
basically
you're
setting
the
aggressiveness
right.
How
much
should
your
colonel
try
to
swap
there's
also
things
that
the
kernel
is
not
able
to
swap
like
private
memory
pages,
for
example,
so
it's
only
applied
to
those
things
that
are
eligible
for
swapping
and
then
it's
just
like
an
affinity.
So
even
at
a
swappiness
of
zero,
your
kernel
can
still
potentially
swap
it's
just
gonna.
Try
really
really
hard
not
to.
C
So
I'm
gonna
pause
here
and
give
some
commentary.
I
think
I
think
like
intuitively.
I
think
this
really
shows
how
useful
system
rules
can
be
for
a
particular
system,
because
in
that
soe
playbook
that
I
have
right
here.
S.
C
A
So
we've
kind
of
talked
all
around
it
and
and
we've
talked
over
it
I
think,
but
why
don't
we
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
specifics
of
8.5?
What
maybe
we'll
we'll
we'll
go
around
the
horn
here
and
and
see?
What
features
should
we
be
excited
about?
What
should
we
be
playing
with?
What
should
we
be
looking
forward
to
scott?
You
want
to
go
first.
B
Sure
so
we're
making
some
changes
to
kernel
live
patching
or
kpatch.
One
of
the
things
is
we're
going
to
be
adding
k-patch
support
for
into
web
console.
So
just
so
you
know
what
that
looks
like
if
I
can
find
a
copy
of
the
image
grab.
I
did
maybe.
B
B
Also,
if
you
have
any
kernel
patches
applied
to
your
running
kernel
notice
under
the
status,
it
tells
you
that
that
there
is
one
already
applied
and
active.
So
that's
one
thing
is
we're:
making
kernel
live
patching
easier
to
use
because
we're
adding
it
into
the
software
updates
component
of
web
console.
The
other
really
big
kind
of
exciting
change
is
we're
going
to
be
producing.
B
Kernel
live
patches
for
all
minor
releases
of
red
hat
enterprise,
linux,
8.,
so
previous
to
h5,
we
only
produced
k
patches
for
what
we
called
extended,
update,
support
or
eus
releases,
which
was
eight
one,
eight,
two
eight
four,
but
those
odd-numbered
releases.
We
didn't
produce
k
patches
for
their
kernels
and
that's
going
to
change
with
eight
five.
So,
with
eight
five,
you
will
get
k
patches
for
the
duration
of
eight
five
and
then,
when
we
transition
to
eight
six
you'll,
get
it
for
eight
six
plus
eight
six
extended
update
support.
B
You
also
get
it
for
eight,
seven,
eight,
eight
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
we
back
port
critical
security
errada
into
live
kernel
patches
which
allow
you
to
apply
updates
to
the
kernel
without
the
need
for
a
reboot,
and
we
have
a
six-month
look
back
on
all
of
those.
So
as
you
get
new
ones,
they
are
a
roll-up
of
all
of
the
ones
up
to
that
point
for
the
first
six
months
or
for
the
last
six
months.
Rather
so
that's
a
pretty
exciting
change
for
kernel
life.
B
B
So
if
you
went
to
the
whoops
live
demo,
what
could
possibly
go
wrong.
B
B
So
down
here
a
little
bit
further
on
the
page,
you
have
these
nice
little
histogram
graphics
of
what's
been
going
on
in
this
box,
but
with
8.5
and
also
into
9.
You
can
also
configure
pm
proxy
through
the
web
console.
So
if
I
go
to
metric
settings
here.
B
You
can
export
to
network
which
allows
you
to
send
your
performance
copilot
data
to
another
system
on
the
network
and
the
reason
you
would
want
to
do
that
is
to
collect
all
of
your
population
information
on
a
single
host
who
then
uses
something
like
grafana
or
another
data
visualization
service.
To
then
show
you
important
things
that
are
going
on
across
your
population.
B
So
that's
that's
a
little
bit
on
what
we're
doing
with
sorry.
C
Sorry
to
interrupt
scott,
just
one
quick
thing:
if
you
need
to
configure
this
like
performance
copilot
across
multiple
hosts,
you
can
do
it
with
a
system
rule.
A
In
fact,
a
whole
series
of
blog
posts
and
I'll
see
if
I
can
grab
the
the
url
for
that
here
in
just
a
second
but
don,
I
think
you
had.
I
think
you
wanted
to
jump
in
on
the
on
the
performance
enhancements
for
for
eight
five
as
well.
D
Yeah,
I
think
scott
and
matthew
covered
quite
a
bit
of
it.
I
want
to
want
to
focus
on
one
aspect
of
pcp,
which
is
the
scale
aspect.
So,
although
the
setup
is
easy,
as
matthew
said
with
with
using
the
system
roles,
scott
showed
how
you
can
use
the
the
the
web
ui
or
web
console
for
a
lot
of
the
you
know,
observation
of
all
this
metrics
data,
but
when
it
comes
to
scaling
pcp,
you
know,
pcp
is
a
solution
that
you
know.
D
People
are
typically
deployed
on
a
cluster
and
that
cluster
can
be,
you
know
quite
large,
so
we
have
done
some
internal
testing
to
basically
be
able
to
deploy
pcp
on
up
to
1000
000
nodes,
so
that
is
kind
of
the
scale
factor
in
terms
of
testing
for
pcp.
Just
gives
you
an
aspect
of
you
know
again.
These
tests
are
internal,
but
you
know
that
is
some
that
is
going
to
be.
D
You
know,
kind
of
codified
in
our
best
practice
right
in
terms
of
when
customers
are
running,
like
yourself
are
running
pcp
in
production.
A
lot
of
times
we
get.
The
question
is
like:
how
how
large
can
this
cluster
be
or
how
large
can
the
system
be?
1000
nodes
is
going
to
be
the
best
practice,
because
that
is
sort
of
you
know,
measured
and
tested
in
the
lab,
and
you
know
we
hope
to
get
feedback
on
that
as
well.
A
And
and
kind
of
sticking
along
with
the
with
the
web
interface,
it's
built
off
of
cockpit
upstream.
One
of
the
other
big
improvements
we've
seen
with
8.5
is
image
builder.
So,
if
you're
unfamiliar
with
image
builder,
it
is
the
ability
to
create
a
golden
image.
A
Image
builder
actually
gives
you
the
ability
to
set
a
lot
of
different
a
lot
of
different
parts
of
your
operating
system
ahead
of
time,
and
it's
it's
a
it's
a
very
heavy
area
of
focus,
and
so
we've
made
two
major
enhancements
to
8.5
for
image
builder.
A
The
first
is
bare
metal
support
so
beforehand
it
was
really
cloud
focused,
very,
very
virtual
machine
focused
there's
vmware
support,
there's
qca
2
files,
which
supports
libverts
and
openstack
images,
but
now,
as
of
8.5
you'll,
be
able
to
do
a
bare
metal
install
and
it
takes
the
the
image
builder
process
and
instead
spits
out
an
iso
with
a
pre-written
with
a
pre-written
kickstart
file,
love
having
to
pull
these
names
out
of
my
head
as
I'm
talking
live
on
air,
it's
great
fun,
but
the
second
enhancement.
That's
I'm
really
excited
about
it.
A
It's
been
very
heavily
requested
and
our
engineering
team's
been
working
really
hard
on
is
customized
file
system
layouts.
So
now,
if,
if
you
had
a
20
gig
image
builder
image,
it
would
only
have
slash
root
or
it
didn't
only
have
the
slash
or
the
root
file
system
very
important
differentiation
there.
A
My
my
8.5
system
wouldn't
actually
complete
the
the
demo
for
for
today's
event,
but
here
very
soon,
you'll
be
able
to
try
that
out
for
yourself
on
rel,
8.5,
ga,
but
bare
metal
and
custom
custom
file
system,
layouts
huge
enhancements
to
image
builder
and
there's
more
more
coming
out
with
every
version
image
builder
is
going
to
be
very,
have
very
heavy
focus
for
rel
and
rail
distribution
going
forward,
and
then
I
might,
I
might
hit
on
one
other
thing
and
then
turn
it
over
to
scott
to
talk
about
containers.
A
But
I
also
wanted
to
mention
that
we
we
featured
this
on
the
show
just
a
few
a
few
episodes
ago,
but
the
convert
to
rel
utility
one
of
the
limitations
we
had
beforehand
was:
it
only
supported
the
older
grub
boot
options,
but
now
with
8.5,
so
here
just
very
soon,
you'll
actually
be
able
to
do
convert
to
rel
on
centos
and
oel
systems,
oracle
and
oracle
enterprise,
linux
systems
that
have
uefi.
A
So
if
you,
if
you
have
a
newer
piece
of
hardware
or
a
lot
of
cloud
providers
or
virtual
machines,
all
lean
on
lean
on
uefi
for
boot,
so
convert
to
rel,
will
now
support
those
systems
as
of
8.5.
So
scott,
we
kind
of
we
kind
of
talked
a
little
bit
around
ubi.
Is
there
anything
specific
in
in
85?
We
want
to
talk
about
with
containers
or
podman.
B
I
mean
I've
been
there
and
clearly
got
the
t-shirt
literally
so
ubi
like
nothing.
Nothing
major,
we're
still
gonna
continue
to
ship,
our
four
versions
of
epi
micro,
which
is
really
small,
minimal,
which
is
pretty
small,
but
not
as
small
as
micro,
standard
and
init
or
multi-service
image
that
comes
with
a
full-on
system
d
implementation.
B
So
we'll
be
packaging,
those
and
shipping
them
with
eight
five
as
well.
You
can
download
load
them
and
redistribute
them
for
free
from
the
red
hat
container,
catalog
or
docker
hub.
If
you
would
like
the
the
changes
in
eight
five
are
more
around
the
container
tools,
so
we
made
overlay
file
systems
usable
by
rootless
containers.
So
if
you're
not
familiar
with
rootless
containers,
it
lets
regular
people.
B
Non-Privileged
users
run
containers
depending
on
how
you
have
the
system
set
up.
You
can
bind
to
different
ports
on
the
machine,
so
you
can
forward
traffic
to
a
higher
numbered
port
or
you
can
actually
tweak
the
system
a
little
bit
and
also
let
them
access
traditionally
privileged
ports
with
some
administrator
changes
to
the
box.
B
B
And
then,
let's
see,
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
else
crazy.
There,
oh
c
group
2
is
now
fully
supported.
So
if
you
are
using
c
group
2,
that's
cool
with
containers
now
we
had
been
working
with
it,
but
now
it's
fully
integrated
and
that's
excellent
and
then
one
feature
that
is
landing
in
eight
five.
But
we
should
see
additional
additional
work
on
in
future
releases
as
well
is
container
verification.
B
So
now,
when
you
download
a
container
from
a
registry,
it'll
actually
compare
the
signature
on
that
container.
Once
downloaded
into
your
local
registry,
with
the
signature
on
that
container,
in
your
repository
that
you
downloaded
it
from
so
you
can
see
that
the
container
is
valid
all
the
way
through
from
where
you
got
it
to
your
local
file
system
and
so
right
now,
it'll
it'll,
warn
you.
If
that
signature
is
a
mismatch
and
in
the
future
we're
looking
at
making
that
more
enforceable.
B
But
it's
not
there
in
85.
Yet.
A
Yeah
that'll
really
help,
especially
with
all
the
focus
on
open
source
supply
chains.
Well,
not
just
open
source,
but
any
any
supply
chain.
So
moving
forward
it'll
become
easier
and
easier
to
make
sure
that
the
image
that
you're
getting
is
actually
from
red
hats
and
signed
by
red
hat
instead
of
just
maybe
red
ht
or
something.
You
know
some
some
weird
misspelling
of
red
hat
that
looks
kind
of
like
it,
but
is
in
in
fact
someone
just
trying
to
mine
cryptocurrency
using
your
your
server
infrastructure.
D
Yes,
so
I
mean
just
compliance
is
definitely
one
with
every
point
release.
We
kind
of
you
know
make
sure
that
we
are
keeping
tab
with
compliance,
whether
it's
regulations.
So
that
is
one
thing
I
love
to
call
out
with
again,
because
it's
it's
a
significant,
mature
point
release
later
in
the
cycle.
0.5
right.
So
we
are,
you
know
up
to
date
in
terms
of
like
or
want
to
be
up
to
date.
D
In
terms
of
all
the
you
know,
compliance
regulations,
but
in
also
in
terms
of
when
I
look
in
terms
of
security,
especially
when
I
look
at
things
like
insights,
the
rule
database
of
insights,
which
is
the
service
which
is
having
a
lot
of
those
intelligence,
whether
it's
you
know
vulnerability,
intelligence
or
whether
it
is
also
just
improving
operationally
the
system,
the
rules
associated
with
that
they
get
improved
with
every
every
release.
It's
not
really
tied
to
the
operating
system
release,
but
essentially
there
are.
D
There
are
certain
rules
that
basically
check
the
operating
system
version
as
well,
so
the
rules,
the
rule
database
could
get
updated
out
of
band,
but
that
is
also
consistently
moving
forward.
So
just
wanted
to
call
that
out.
D
So
what
that
really
means
for
a
customer
is
you
know,
you
may
not
know
that
your
system
is
vulnerable,
but
now
that
with
insights,
you
can
really
go
there
in
the
dashboard
and
not
just
see
one
system
but
see
your
entire
fleet
of
servers
and
be
able
to
remediate
issues
right
from
the
insights,
dashboard
and
I'm
sure
matt.
You
can
talk
more
about,
like
you
know,
combining
that
with
things
like
satellite
and
so
forth,.
A
So
it's
funny
you
mentioned
insights
because
on
episode
23
I
had
john
spinks
on
so
the
episode
right
before
this
one,
and
we
talked
about
insights
and
vulnerabilities.
So
then
insights
and
rel
continue
to
work
closer
and
closer
together.
A
So
lots
of
great
lots
of
great
advancements
coming
with
8.5
and
we'd
be
remiss
if
we
didn't
mention
the
9.0
beta
in
a
feature
by
feature.
Comparison,
85
and
90
beta
are
very,
very
similar
to
each
other,
but.
A
A
The
I
think
the
big
takeaway
is
to
see
how
this
upgrade
process,
how
this
migration
path
is
going
to
look
moving
forward
so
well.
Well,
the
actual
bits
may
be
similar
9.0
is,
is
kind
of
the
the
the
first
major
release
since
we've
made
all
these
life
cycle
changes.
Centos
stream
is
now
is
now
upstream
of
red
hat
enterprise,
linux
we're
more
tightly
in
integrated
with
fedora
with
centos
and
then
with
rel
we're
on
a
standardized
release
cadence.
A
So
the
major
version,
real
nine
is,
is
kind
of
a
celebration
of
that
and
we'll
talk
more
about
rel
nine
in
the
spring,
but
so
feature
by
feature.
It's
it's
very,
very
similar,
but
the
beta
is
out
it
is
freely
available,
so
you
can
definitely
you
can
definitely
see
how
things
are
going
to
go
once
once
rel8
hits
its
maintenance
phase.
A
I
think
we'll
start
to
see
that
feature
set
diverge
quite
a
bit
because
rel8
will
will
get
won't,
get
any
of
the
more
any
of
the
hardware
enablement
or
any
of
the
new
features
moving
forwards
and
then
that
that
development
will
shift
completely
to
rel
nine.
A
So
if
you're
on
rel
six
rel7
and
you
haven't
started
talking
about
upgrading
to
to
rel
eight,
maybe
it's
worth
taking
a
look
at
real
nine
that
gives
you
that
gives
you
another
six
to
seven
months
to
prepare
and
if
you're
on
rel
eight
it's
it's
going
to
be
an
easy
shift
from
rel
a
to
rel
nine.
A
B
B
Do
that
we
intend
to
do
is
we're
going
to
use
dnf
as
our
package
management
utility
in
raw9?
It
was
actually
there
in
eight.
You
just
didn't
notice
it,
because
we
created
the
sim
link
for
yum
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that
in
nine,
but
for
all
of
our
documentation
and
other
things
we're
now
going
to
be
using
dnf
as
our
preferred
command
line
utility.
B
One
of
the
other
changes
is
modularity,
so
don's
probably
encountered
this
some
with
his
his
work
with
application
streams,
so
I
think,
with
rail
eight
we
may
have
over
rotated
a
bit
on
modules
and
packaging.
All
of
our
stuff
is
modules.
B
It
turns
out.
Modules
is
really
hard,
so
in
rel
9
we're
going
to
do
less
modules
and
more
meta.
Rpms
meta
rpms
are
a
way
of
creating
an
rpm
that
references,
other
rpms
as
components,
and
so
I
think,
we'll
see
that
a
more
prevalent
way
of
handling
application
streams
there.
A
B
And
so,
when
you
install
the
container
tools,
rpm
it
slurps
in
those
others
as
dependencies
right,
whereas
today,
when
you
install
container
tools,
it
goes,
you
want
the
container
tools
module.
These
are
the
other
modules
that
are
part
of
this
module
or
other
packages
that
are
part
of
this
module
in
the
handset.
B
And
then,
when
you
do
like
an
upgrade
with
modularity,
that's
really
hard
with
meta
rpms,
though,
if
you
do
an
upgrade
of
your
current
container
tools,
the
new
container
tools,
meta
package
will
say:
I
need
a
newer
pod
man.
I
need
a
newer
builder.
I
need
a
newer
scopio
and
then
it'll
fetch
and
install
those
as
part
of
that
package
transaction,
which
is
a
really
well
understood,
method
of
managing
software
on
rel
distros.
B
So
we
had
things
with
modularity
where,
like,
if
you
tried
to
upgrade
it,
could
potentially
leave
artifacts
on
the
system
that
you
didn't
intend,
whereas
a
rpm
upgrade
is
a
very
atomic
process
right.
It
like
takes
care
of
handling
all
the
file
meta
stuff,
that's
out
there
for
for
the
package
that
it's
upgrading
and
that
was
not
as
well
understood
or
practiced
for
modules,
which
is
why
our
recommended
practice
was
to
erase
the
module
and
then
install
the
newer
module.
A
Perfect
great
great
answer:
I
appreciate
the
the
clarification
and
we'll
we'll
talk
more
about
all
of
this
in
the
spring
as
we
get
closer
to
rel
nine's
ga.
A
So,
let's
start
with
matt
any
any
closing
thoughts.
We've
got
just
a
few
minutes
left.
C
A
Awesome,
yeah
and
we'll
have
matt
on
again
in
two
weeks
to
talk
about
satellite
and
then
I
think
after
the
first
of
the
year,
we
I
believe,
don
you
and
I
are
talking
about
a
system
roles
episode
and
we're
going
to
focus
on
sql
server.
Also.
C
D
Yeah
so
yeah
so
stay
tuned
for
the
sql
session.
I
think
what
we're
going
to
cover
there
is
just
motivation
on
why
you
should
run
you
know
a
database
like
sql
on
rel.
I
mean
we'll
cover,
like
top
three
reasons.
So
if
your
database
fans
here
want
to
run
it
on
figuring
out
your
database
like
sql,
to
run
on
an
operating
system,
you
should
attend
that
session.
Definitely
to
you,
learn
more
I'll
also
touch
a
little
bit
upon
automation
right.
D
So
I
think
matthew
set
the
stage
value
to
kind
of
say
why
you
know
when
you're
deploying
it
in
on
a
fleet
of
servers.
This
stuff,
especially
using
ansible
the
rel
system
rose
powered
by
ansible,
is
really
handy,
so
I'll
kind
of
show
that
in
the
context
of
sql
as
well
in
the
live
demo,
so
hopefully
you
all
can
attend
and
we
can
do
some
hands-on
keyboard
work,
but
yeah
closing
thoughts.
I
think
for
8.5
really
recommend
everybody
to
try
the
bits
give
us
the
feedback.
D
You
know
your
your
input
is
is
crucial
for
us
to
understand.
You
know
how
we
can
you
know,
move
the
needle
in
terms
of
the
product
forward.
You
know
for
future
releases.
B
A
Yes,
please,
like
share
subscribe.
All
the
good
things,
push
push
that
little
up
arrow.
It
really
helps
us
helps
us
know
whether
this
content
is
resonating
with
you
or
not.
Join
our
discord
check
out
some
of
the
other
episodes
and
and
much
like
much
like
rel
itself,
rel
presents,
is
kind
of
changing
and
growing.
A
If
you've,
if
you've
noticed,
we've
started,
we've
started
to,
we
started
implementing
graphics.
We've
got
a
new
streaming
platform,
we're
using
we're
kind
of
changing
up
the
contents
a
little
bit
trying
to
bring
more
more
of
the
experts
on
to
to
talk
and
answer
your
questions,
whether
it's,
whether
it's
101
or
401,
level,
level
stuff.
We
definitely
want
to
keep
the
feel
of
the
show
the
same.
A
We
we
all
love
the
the
kind
of
laid-back
conversation
with
with
the
demo,
because
what's
a
live
stream
without
the
chance
of
breaking
something
right
so-
and
I
appreciate
y'all's
patience,
I've
gotten
some
great
feedback
over
the
last
few
episodes.
It's
just.
It's
been
a
lot
of
changes
in
a
very
short
period
of
time.
We
we
changed
co-hosts,
then
we
changed
hosts
and
then
we
changed
streaming
platforms.
A
It's
been
a
lot,
so
stick
with
us
we're
doing
a
lot
of
planning
behind
the
scenes.
A
lot
of
infrastructure
focused
changes
like
the
red
hat
enterprise
linux
youtube
channel.
We've
got
some
tip
tech,
tip
style,
videos
that
we've
started
to
publish,
including
a
couple
for
convert,
tyrell
episode,
25
in
two
weeks,
2
p.m.
Eastern
so
be
here,
twitch
youtube,
we'll
continue
streaming
on
openshift
and
rel.
For,
for
the
time
being,
we'll
have
matt
on
to
talk
about
talk
about
satellite
and
then
looking
at
the
end
of
the
year.
A
We've
got
a
cool
episode
on
podman
containers
and
running
and
a
game
server
at
home
and
then
to
wrap
up
the
year.
We
haven't
quite
fleshed
it
out
yet,
but
towards
the
end
of
the
year,
we're
looking
at
doing
some
kind
of
a
fireside
chat
where
I
I'm
the
this
may
change.
So
don't
quote
me,
but
I'm
I'm
looking
at
sending
out
an
invite
to
this
event
to
just
about
anybody
in
in
the
rel
organization.
Here
at
red
hat.
Have
them
come
on?
A
The
show
see
who
shows
up,
see
who
shows
up
in
the
chat.
Ask
different
questions
have
different
conversations
and
just
kind
of
a
nice
lighthearted
q
a
session
to
to
kind
of
wrap
up
the
year,
and
in
that
episode
I
also
hope
to
announce
some.
Some
ongoing
changes
for
rel
live
streams.
Rel
presents
so
stay
tuned
and
until
then
thank
you
guys
for
joining
us
matt
don
scott.
Thank
you
guys
for
for
helping
me
out
on
the
show
today
and
look
forward
to
seeing
you
all
again
live
in
two
weeks.