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OpenShift Commons Gathering in Seattle on Nov 7, 2016 by Troy Hakala and Gay Gilmore, local Seattle area brewmasters and ex-techies on their journey from tech to brew; and how open source has influenced their business philosophy. http://optimismbrewing.com/
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B
A
So
it
was
all
originally
we
were
going
to
build
it
all
on
Microsoft,
Technology
thinking.
We
can
just
do
this.
We,
you
know
we
love
Microsoft
and
we
can
do
this
long
story
short.
We
went
through
all
these
machinations
with
hardware
and
windows,
kind
of
didn't
work
for
us
and
we
switched
actually
to
Red
Hat
one
day
and
we
just
switched
from
there.
A
So
the
whole
thing
was
built
for
seven
or
eight
years.
We
built
the
whole
thing
on
open
source
technologies,
which
is
great.
We
love
it.
We
sold
the
company
and
we
I
want
to
do
my
second,
my
my
other
passion
in
my
life.
It's
making
beer
so
I
wanted
to
start
a
brewery
and
we
did
and
somehow
it
got
gay
to
go
on
with
me
on
that
one
as
well,
and
so
we're
kind
of
a
different
brewery.
We
well
one
thing:
we
use
a
lot
of
open
source
software.
A
B
Think
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
were
asked
to
come
is
not
just
because
you're
going
to
get
to
drink
our
wonderful
beer
in
a
minute
that
is
part
of
it,
but
the
idea
behind
optimism
and
our
background
in
technology
was
one
that
we
really
wanted
to
share
with
you
guys
at
openshift
as
well.
We
run
our
company
very
differently
than
the
average
craft
brewery
manufacturing
biggest
businesses
are
still
pretty
old-school.
They
do
everything
on
paper.
Even
there
are
people
who
ask
me
how
to
use
excel.
B
So
not
only
do
we
have
great
software
behind
it
that
Troy
is
written,
but
we
also
really
take
that
look
from
the
bottom
all
the
way
to
the
top.
So
it's
not
just
what's
going
on,
what's
running
on
the
machines
to
develop
our
recipes,
but
it's
how
we
treat
our
people.
We
have
no
hierarchy
at
optimism.
Everyone
is
a
brewer
worker.
Everyone
has
done
everything
we
clean
our
own
bathrooms.
The
Brewers
are
not
just
brewing
the
beer
but
they're
serving
up
behind
the
taproom.
B
We
pay
our
workers
really
well
right,
that's
great
because
we're
from
Seattle.
We
do
that
sort
of
thing
we're
really
liberal
out
here,
but
we
also
have
a
tip
free
establishment,
because
we
feel
it's
important
that
we
as
a
business
are
responsible
for
our
workers,
wages
and
not
just
the
women
of
the
customer
and
that's
changed
the
thinking
inside
our
tasting
room
as
well.
People
have
a
lot
more
respect
for
us
and
for
our
employees
and
they're
much
more
excited
to
have
that
identification
with
us
as
a
company
and
are
more
interested
I.
B
Think
in
our
beer
as
well
so
I
I.
Think
all
of
those
things
are
not
just
it's
not
just
a
technology
thing,
but
it's
a
way
that
we
have
taken
our
outlook
from
technology
and
brought
it
into
a
manufacturing
business.
Another
thing
that
we
do
because
I
have
a
real
interest
in
usability
studies.
That's
what
I
was
doing.
I
really
had
an
affinity
for
we
also
bring
people
into
our
taste
testing
room
and
we
ask
them
what
they
think
of
the
beer.
Now
these
are
people
who
are
just
average
people.
B
B
That
I
think
is
a
really
great
way
of
relating
back
to
what
you
guys
are
doing,
and
study
and
I
think
it's
good
proof
that
there
is
another
life
after
tech,
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I,
don't
know
if
beer
is
the
right
one
for
you,
but
it's
been
really
great
for
us.
Troy
also
wants
to
tell
you
a
couple
things
about
the
beers
that
we're
going
to
be
tasted
in
the
other
room
before.
A
Get
to
that
I
want
the
another
thing
I
think
is
really
cool,
but
that
what
excited
me
about
brewing
for
years
since
I
was
out
of
college,
was
this
home
brewing
community,
which
is
very
much
like
the
open
source
community?
It's
just
very
I
read
these
magazines
and
books,
and
it
feels
very
much
like
I'm
reading
linux
journal,
and
so
it's
just
this
really
cool
kind
of
everybody
gets
together
and
shares
everything
and
the
homegroup
community
is
just
exactly
like
that.
So
it's
really
fun.
A
So
if
you
ever
want
to
try
making
beer
I
encourage
everybody
to
do
it,
it's
not
that
difficult!
It's
just
some
learning
just
like
programming
is
not
that
difficult.
If
you
want
to
get
into
it,
so
so
I
encourage
everybody
to
brew
beer
and
really
learn
about
beer
as
well.
It's
really
fun
and
exciting
as
well.
So
so
we
have
two
beers
here.
One
is
called
10
any
it's
my
favorite
beer
that
we
make.
It's
always
been
made
to
be
my
favorite
beer,
it's
in
classic
English
ale.
A
It's
got
a
lot
of
caramel
toffee
flavors,
it's
an
ESB
or
an
English
pale
depending
how
you
look
at
it.
The
other
beer
is
called
hello
world,
which
you
guys
wouldn't
understand.
Most
people
don't
get
that
when
we
mention
it,
but
so
it's
a
it's
called
hello
world
for
two
reasons.
It's
kind
of
an
introduction
to
beer.
It's
a
very
light
beer
that
most
people
who
don't
drink
a
lot
of
craft
beer,
don't
want
to
get
all
the
hoppy
flavors
that
they
hear
about
or
that
they
taste
of
a
there's,
really
strong,
high
alcohol.