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B
Is
I
just
put
the
abbreviation,
but
it's
Sully
good
to
me:
Julie
I'm
gonna
spell
it
out.
Oh.
A
And
please
don't
Mommy
I
like
to
have
a
snack
while
I
do
these
office
hours.
B
A
So
as
we
get
started,
suly
and
Glenda,
if
you
guys
wouldn't
mind
quickly,
introduce
yourself.
B
So
I
had
just
had
a
meeting
with
Saul
and
I,
don't
know
how
to
pronounce
their
last
name
and
they
were
the
one
who
shared
the
link
for
this.
For
this
meeting.
I
am
a
software
engineer.
I
live
in
Boston
Mass,
the
US
I,
don't
know
where
everyone
is
located,
but
I
want
to
start
learning
more
Cloud
native
and
learn
about.
The
meeting
I
know
is
Taylor
Moore
in
education,
so
I
wanted
to
see
how
we
can
all
learn.
So
it's
great
to
meet
you.
Everyone.
C
A
D
Hi
guys
I'm
also
an
iPhone
for
this
summer,
I'm
on
the
software
security,
research
team,
hearing
team
and
yeah
I'm
really
excited
to
meet
you
guys
and
get
to
know
more.
B
A
B
F
B
B
D
A
B
A
E
Yeah
I,
let
them
know
the
the
gem
of
information.
That's.
D
E
Call
when
it
comes
to
moving
their
careers
and
interviewing
and
resumes
so.
A
Well,
by
all
means
ask
your
questions.
Oh
yes,
Sal
the
thing
for
for
Sully,
so
we
mentioned
salute.
B
A
Is
office
hours,
meaning
you
come
in
you're
new
to
software
engineering,
you're
new
to
being
a
new
you're,
a
new
developer,
you're
still
in
school,
even
you're,
considering
a
career
in
cyber
security
of
some
so
you're
considering
career
and
software
of
service
development,
and
you
want
some
direction
on
where
you
want
to
go
in
your
career,
the
things
that
you
should
be
interested
in
the
things
you
think
you're
interested
in
you're,
not
sure
interviewing
companies,
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
A
The
amount
of
knowledge
on
this
call,
given
that
we've
all
worked
across
the
sphere
of
software
service.
Cyber
you
know,
information
security,
I
mean
I,
I,
tell
people
that
was
information
security
before
it
was
sexy
and,
and
then
every
part
of
that
is
true.
Everybody,
that's
true.
A
So
on
this
call
we
have
the
capability
of
giving
you
a
solid
Direction
and
that's
what
this
is
for.
So
there's
no
agenda.
The
agenda
is
whatever
you
make
it
in
real
time
right
here
on
the
call.
E
I
can
start
off
a
topic
piece
if
anything
I've
been
talking
with
my
mentees
on
their
resume
they're
interviewing,
but
also
the
job
hunting
pieces
and
how
to
establish
non-negotiables
when
it
comes
to
finding
your
next
career
goal,
so
Sal
J
Christine.
If
you
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
on
when
you're
looking
for
your
next
goal,
what
are
some
of
the
non-negotiables
that
you
set
in
place
to
make
sure
you
land
in
the
right
position.
A
A
A
I
also
look
for
Meaningful
work,
one
of
the
things
that
I
usually
tell
my
mentees
when
they're
deciding
on
what
colleges
to
go
to
or
if
they're
in
college
and
they're
deciding
on
Majors
I
say
well.
What
is
it
that
you
are
passionate
about
and
then
using
your
passion?
What
do
you
think
will
put
a
paycheck
in
your
pocket
now
there's
a
third
part
to
that.
What
is
it
that
you
love
now
I?
Do
that
because
I
say
take
three
of
those
things.
There
could
be
three
different
things
by
the
way.
A
This
would
be
a
good
one
to
discuss
live
because,
because
the
questions
you'll
get
is,
is
a
Christine
just
put
that
in
the
chat
Tarantino
in
it
when
you're
just
starting
out
non-negotiables
a
safe
work
environment.
In
the
end,
you
shouldn't
be
saying:
no
to
a
damn
thing:
hey
your
dues,
pay
your
dues,
you
shouldn't
be
saying.
No
to
anything,
everything
is
relevant.
Everything
is
important.
Everything
will
you'll,
be
surprised
about
that
one,
medial
task
and
now
I'm
speaking.
So
the
reason
why
I'm
saying
it
like
this
is
because
and.
D
A
I
say
you
guys:
this
generation
I
hate
I
hate
doing
that,
but
I
love
it.
At
the
same
time,
instant
gratification
is
real.
Everybody
wants
to
do
something
grown
and
sexy,
but
you
got
to
get
grown
and
sexy
first,
you
got
to
grow
up.
First
right,
you'll
be
surprised
about
the
small
little
menial
tasks
that
you
think
are
well
it's.
Why
can't
I
just
do
this
over
here?
That's
that's!
A
You'll,
be
surprised,
you'll,
be
surprised
about
the
job
that
you
get
that
is
going
to
work.
You
like
a
damn
like
work.
You
like
a
dog
like
you
like
you're,
doing
everything
your
const,
the
weights
on
your
shoulders,
you're
working
14
hours
a
day,
you're
doing
you'll,
be
surprised
of
how
that
will
help
you.
A
You
know,
there's
there's
a
oh
saying,
goes
when
you,
when
you
start
making
some
some
real
money
in
the
game
and
you
and
you're
getting
that
salary
and
you're
negotiating
that
salary,
and
you
say:
hey
you're,
not
paying
for
the
work
that
I'm
doing
for
you
today,
you're
paying
for
the
20
years
of
experience.
It
took
me
to
do
this
four
hour
task
in
15
minutes
right,
but
you
can
only
get
that
experience
through
it
first
taking
eight
hours
to
do
right
so
four
hour
test.
A
A
A
I
can
give
a
damn
I
work
for
a
leader
that
that
provides
me
an
environment
where
I
could
be
as
creative
as
I
want
to
be
and
do
the
best
work
that
I
that
I
want
to
do
and
work
in
the
places
and
meet
the
people
that
I
want
to
meet
so
that
I
can
do
the
best
work
and
be
as
creative,
because
I
have
the
experience
to
do
it
in
the
beginning.
How
I
got
here
doing
those
menial
tasks,
saying
yes
to
every
damn
thing?
Thank
you.
What
it
was
say
yes
and
learn.
A
Excuse
me
say
yes
and
learn
it
later.
Can
you
do
this
absolutely
and
and
I'll
give
I'll.
Give
you
a
saying:
don't
worry,
you
can
keep
it
there's
nothing!
I
can't
do
there's
nothing
on
the
face
of
this
damn
birth
that
I
can't
do.
I
can
build
homes,
I
can
build
buildings,
skyscrapers
I
can
garden
I
can
plant
I
can
do
all
kinds
of
things.
Why?
Because
there's
nothing
I'm
not
willing
to
learn
hold
on
to
that
hold
on
to
that
and
everything
else
falls
into
place.
I'm
done
somebody
else,
yeah.
H
Yeah
I
mean
really.
It
is
like
at
the
end
of
the
day,
so
when
I,
when
I
take
on
and
I
advise
people,
I
typically
take
them
on
for
three
months
and
there's
a
couple
of
things:
I
have
to
train
them
to
think
about
not
burning
out
right
so
like
the
first
month
is
literally
project
like
project
management
for
pre-burn
out
Engineers.
H
So
what
you
have
to
be
able
to
demonstrate
what
I
really
look
for
in
a
good
hire
right
now,
I
need
someone
who
can
project
manage
themselves
and
who
demonstrates
that
you
can
do
that
really
easily.
So
a
couple
of
things
as
you're
looking
for
jobs
or
have
an
interview
or
have
something
in
place.
I
always
do
one
thing
when
I
first
get
to
a
place,
I
mean
I'm
trained
both
in
Signal
processing
and
in
contract
law.
So
I
care
a
lot
about
my
contracts,
I
read
them.
H
I
have
a
specific
Clause,
no
matter
what
I
have
my
specific
language
that
states
two
things:
one
I
work
remotely
period
and
what
that
means
is
no.
There
is
no
requirement
to
coming
to
any
office
at
any
time.
That's
what
that's
means?
That's
that's
it,
because
you
can
get
creep,
you
can
get
a
scope
creep
if
it's
not
explicitly
defined.
Secondarily,
you
can
and
probably
should,
at
this
stage
state
that
any
projects
that
you
work
on
outside
of
working
hours,
if
not
affiliated
in
any
way
to
your
work
projects,
are
yours.
H
They
are
your
IP
now
this
is
pretty
it's
already
inherent.
If
you
are
putting
licenses
on
your
degree
projects,
you
can
put
a
readme
out
there
put
a
license
on
it,
but
you
also
have
to
state
that
explicitly
so
when
I
enter
a
job.
I
have
my
current
job
description,
which
I've
often
written
for
myself
at
this
stage,
but
if
they
provide
me
a
job
description,
we
rewrite
it
with
an
understanding
about
what
the
like
the
what
kpi,
that
I
would
be
delivering
to
a
company.
H
H
You
are
also
going
to
to
write
with
your
direct
advisor
in
the
first
month
of
your
arrival,
what
your
job
description
would
be
in
a
year
if
they
got
and
you
got
both
satisfactory
returns
and
investment
from
them
right.
So
if
my
next
goal
is
to
go
towards
management
or
towards
SRE,
yes,
perfect,
I.
Also,
my
last
note
on
this,
because
this
is
so
important,
particularly
if
you
are
fun
presenting
is,
they
will
always
screw
you
over
and
put
you
in
a
front-end
role.
H
So
you
state,
underneath
your
little
vial
on
top
I
am
looking
for
roles
in
the
domains
of
blank
blank
and
blank
and
welcome
those
opportunities,
and
you
do
not
let
yourself
or
you
have
to
know
yourself
and
know
your
interests
and
know
what
you're
not
interested
in
doing
and
make
that
equally
as
clear
as
what
you
are
willing
to
invest.
Your
time
in
final
final
note
be
very,
very,
very
clear
and
organizing
and
keeping
track
of
what
your
contributions
are.
Narratively
keep
a
document
whether
you're
doing
an
internship
or
anything
else,
keep
a
document.
H
That
explains
what
feature
it
was:
what
projects
we're
working
on,
what
the
goal
was
and
is,
and
what
you
did
to
get
it
done
or
how
you
extended
it
or
how
you
would
extend
it
when
I
have
people
running
these
projects
three
months.
I
have
them
ask
a
couple
of
important
questions
because
I
don't
want
them
to
waste.
My
time
I
say:
if
you
solved
this
problem,
it's
always
machine
learning
or
AI.
H
One
final
final
thing:
I
guess
it
is
true,
I
mean
I
was
just
talking.
I
was
talking
with
someone
earlier
and
instead
of
saying,
like
you,
young
people,
they
were
just
referring
to
people
as
olds,
which
in
this
case
is
fair
because
they're
literally
in
a
nursery
home
but
I
I
thought.
H
Maybe
maybe
we
hold
back
from
Olds,
but
it's
very
different
to
be
jumping
into
computer
science
now
or
into
the
workplace,
because
they
are
often
hybrid
or
remote
and
the
more
expert
you
are,
the
more
specialized,
the
more
likely
you
are
to
be
remote,
so
you're
no
longer
getting
the
interaction
of
having
20
experienced
developers.
Sitting
around
you
and
saying:
oh,
my
God.
H
What's
wrong
when
you
make
a
sound,
that's
really
helpful,
you
should
find
people
in
and
outside
of
your
organization
that
are
willing
to
get
on
a
zoom
call
with
you
and
pair
program.
This
is
how
everyone
learns.
No
one
ever
learns
in
a
vacuum.
You
cannot
go.
Do
600
tutorials!
It's
not
useful,
go
and
work
with
somebody
who
knows
how
to
solve
that
problem
in
15
minutes.
Watch
them
solve
it
and
then
have
them,
walk
you
through
how
they
solved
it,
learn
with
your
hands
on
the
keyboard
and
then
have
to
get
commits.
G
Much
goodness,
I'm
not
sure
I
can
follow
that
I
like
what
Jay
had
actually
mentioned
about,
like
some
things,
are
different.
When
you're
early
in
your
career
versus
later
on
you're.
G
Actually
rise,
and
they
just
like
the
list
keeps
growing
the
the
longer
you
are
things
like.
What
sells
that
I
will
not
I
will
always
be
remote,
and
you
have
like
the
right
to
potentially
do
that
when
you
are
later
on
in
your
career,
some
of
the
things
that
I
sometimes
taught
to
find
and
I,
don't
know
how
you
kind
of
talk
about
finding
that
out.
G
But
I
did
hear
for
some
white
stress
and
once
told
me
that
when
you
are
interviewing-
and
you
have
that
hiring
manager
like
really
knowing
how
you
can
click
with
them
and
maybe
finding
out
a
lot
more
information
about
that
manager,
because
that
is
the
person
who
can
make
or
break
your
career
at
that
company
and
as
they
say,
people
join
companies,
but
they
also
leave
or
stay
at
companies.
Because
of
that
manager.
G
That
person
is
very,
very,
very
important,
so
the
more
you
can
find
out
about
that
person
and
how
you
kind
of
match
up
is
gonna,
be
key,
so
that
one
of
those
non-negotiable
might
be
decide.
Who
is
that
manager
and
how?
What
does
that
team?
Look
like
pay
really
good
attention
to
that
fact
as
well.
I
am
literally
followed
some
managers
in
some
of
my
careers
and
always
done
well
with
certain
phones
and
then
there's
like
a
certain
there's.
Also
like
non-negotiable,
like
how
do
you
work
really?
Well,
you
kind
of
have
to
know.
G
Are
you
the
type
of
person
who
likes
to
work?
I'm,
not
sure
anyone
likes
to
work
with
somebody
who's
like
a
micromanager,
but
then
some
people
might
need
a
little
bit
more
hand
holding
on
the
earlier
on
in
their
career.
Maybe
they
just
need
to
have
that
manager
who's
more
like
a
mentor
who's
going
to
give
them
the
time
that
they
need.
So
that
might
be
something
else
that
you
want,
especially
if
maybe
they
don't
have
like
a
setup
in
that
company
to
actually
get
that
mentorship
done.
G
But
if
you're
early
in
your
career,
it
might
be
good
to
know
that
there
is
a
mentorship
structure
that
can
actually
help
you.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
you
could
be
asking
while
you're
on.
In
your
interview
for
me,
I
can
say
that
there
is
no
perfect
company.
Every
company
is
different,
but
there
are
people
within
those
companies
who
you
can
actually
get
to
learn
and
bond
with
who
you
can
like
tap
on
very
much
more.
So
sometimes
it's
not
really
about
the
company.
But
what
is
the
culture?
G
What
is
the
people
that
you're
going
to
need
and
just
getting
to
know
people
really
in
your
career,
getting
to
network
with
folks
inside
the
company?
Even
people
who
have
got
nothing
to
do
with
whatever
department
or
whichever
group
you're
in
is
really
good
like
get
making
sure
you
get
those
cross-functional
relationships.
You're
in
this
team,
get
to
meet
people
in
other
teams,
get
to
join
all
of
the
different
groups
that
they
might
have.
G
That
will
give
you
the
opportunity
to
do
that,
because
there
are
so
many
serendipitous
moments
where
you
just
chat
about
what
you're
working
on
things
in
the
company
might
change.
If
it's
a
big
company,
you
get
the
opportunity
to
move
into
a
new
area.
You
talk
about
your
work.
There
are
so
many
things
around
Korea
building
that
can
just
happen,
but
just
like
talking
to
people
but
coming
back
to
the
non-negotiable
depends
early
in
your
career.
G
You
don't
get
to
choose
for
the
most
part,
but
you
do
everything
you
do
with
Excellence,
because
that's
when
people
some
people
are
just
watching
they're,
just
watching
you
and
you
never
know
what
effect
you
have
until
somebody's
like
sponsoring
you
behind
the
scenes
when
you're
not
even
looking
so
every
little
thing
you
get
to
do
as
they
said.
G
Do
it
really
well
later
on
in
Korea,
you
have
a
longer
list
of
like
I
will
not
do
this
I
remember
experience
where
I
was
in
a
company
where
going
through
pretty
much
of
a
tough
time,
but
somebody
told
me,
like
you
know,
take
this
tough
time
you're
going
through
it
as
like.
A
good
learning.
Experience
experience
before
adding
another
line.
H
I
I
do
just
want
to
add
in
I
think
the
note
on
the
networking
is
so
key.
Another
thing
like
even
in
like
Linux
foundations
like
you,
could
set
up
your
own
working
group
in
every
corporation.
It's
also
something
that
I
say
before
I
join.
Are
they
willing
do
they
have
one
already
or
are
they
willing
to?
Let
me
run
a
book
club
which
means
right,
because
you
want
to
get
out
there.
H
You
want
to
network
with
the
Professionals
in
that
corporation
that
have
the
same
interest
as
you
and
can
build
your
career
so
putting
together
your
own
Learning,
System
right.
This
is
the
technical
books
that
I'm
getting
through
right,
so,
like
I
did
one
at
a
company.
It
was
like
the
world's
hardest,
like
kubernetes
operators
book,
but
I
met.
Everyone
on
the
SRE
team
and
I
know
exactly
how
that
system
works,
because
we
talked
about
the
real
system
right,
so
yeah,
so
finding
ways
to
network
effectively
and
also
centralizing
that
networking.
That's.
G
Yeah
there
was
a
question
that
came
in
which
you
said:
how
do
you
improve
your
resume?
What
do
you
need
to
work
on
to
be
considered?
Maybe
you've
put
out
your
resume
and
you
may
be
not
getting
callbacks.
G
It
could
be
like
related
to
what's
going
on
in
the
current
macro
economic
conditions,
but
there
are
some
like
tips
and
tricks
in
terms
like
resume,
writing
and
I
guess
we
can
kind
of
like
crowdsource,
some
of
that
I
know
for
some
some,
some
of
the
resumes
that
I've
tended
to
look
at
where
I've,
given
people
advice
before
even
getting
to
the
resume.
Improving
your
resume
could
be
just
like
behind
the
scenes.
G
What
are
you
doing
in
terms
of
let's
say,
for
example,
if
you're
doing
open
source
work,
that's
kind
of
like
a
good
things?
What
are
the
items
that
you
can
put
in
your
resume
that
can
help
build
it
and
open
source
work
is
one
of
those
things
that
you
can
do,
but
even
within
like
a
resume
itself,
it
might
be
tougher,
but
you
could
I
always
find
like
having
quantifiable
things
like
I
did
this.
This
is
what
it
this
was.
The
effect
of
what
it
is.
G
Anything
that
has
numbers
on
it
is
usually
eye-popping
is
what
I've
heard
people
say.
So
I
would
say
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
can
help
improve
your
resume
is
just
like
being
more
about
like
what
you
did
and
quantifying
it,
and
what
was
the
result
is
usually
a
good
thing,
so
that's
just
to
kind
of
Kick
It
Up,
that's
one
thing
that
I
would
recommend.
D
Yeah
so
I
have
a
question
not
not
like
related
to
my
resume
or
job
descriptions
or
like
a
criteria
but
more
about
how
I
can
get
experience
to
transition
into
roads
that
are
generally
kind
of
like
close
up.
So,
for
example,
a
lot
of
roles
in
machine
learning.
They
require
a
master
of
PhD,
especially
if
you
go
to
model
design
and
I
was
wondering
if
there
are
ways
to
get
more
experience
in
these
areas
and
get
more
experience
working
in
these
areas
through
open
source
or
an
initiatives.
H
Yeah
I'll
jump
in
on
that
so
machine
learning.
You
got
to
really
demonstrate
again.
It's
like
project
management.
You've
got
to
demonstrate
end-to-end
construction
of
a
pipeline
right,
so
I've
got
a
couple
of
pipeline
templates
that
I
use,
but,
more
importantly,
with
data
science.
H
It's
a
different
skill
set
that
you
have
to
be
very
good
at
and
it's
why
I
think
everyone
in
MO
is
inherently
smarter
than
people
that
do
static
architecture,
because
I'm,
very
biased,
but
what
you
really
have
to
be
good
at
is
building
both
an
efficient
pipeline,
an
observable
pipeline,
but
also
being
able
to
identify
the
veracity
of
your
pipeline.
H
At
the
end,
with
the
data
that
you
consumed,
did
you
get
the
answer
that
you
really
wanted
and
there's
lots
of
reasons
why
you
can't
and
there's
also
lots
of
reasons
why
you
should
not
pursue
a
problem
in
the
first
place?
Just
the
computation
won't
get
you
the
signal
you
need
so
feature.
H
Engineering
data
engineering
is
really
the
skill
set
that
you
would
typically
be
learning
in
a
masters,
but
you'd
no
longer
need
that
I
think
that's
just
essentially
what
people
don't
understand,
focus
on
getting
a
really
good
basic
education
around
data
and
feature
engineering.
The
signal
processing
around
finding
what
the
most
valuable
data
is
before
you
ever
crunch
numbers
and
you
will
be
employed
yeah
but
I'm,
happy
to
talk
more
on
that
later.
So.
E
E
That
LinkedIn
was
you
know,
notifying
they
had
to
ask
me
so
I
apply
and
I'm
like
yeah,
you
apply,
you
take
the
next
step
you
find
who
the
recruiter
is
you
find
who
the
hiring
manager
and,
like
Jay
said
you
learn
about
your
leaders
and
the
folks
that
you're
going
to
be
working
with
so
reach
out
with
a
very
small,
you
know
LinkedIn
posts
or
LinkedIn
message
or
whatever
message
so
kind
of
be
like
hey
I
applied
to
this?
This
is
who
I
am.
E
This
is
how
I
match
with
the
Mission
Vision
and
the
core
values
of
this
company
and
how
I
can
move
forward
and
be
an
asset
to
this
this
application.
So
it's
making
yourself
stand
out
in
the
crowd.
So
one
thing
I
like
to
think
of
is
Rihanna
is
one
of
my
role.
Models
is
what
will
Rihanna
do
if
she
wants
to
get
X
right?
She's
gonna
go
and
she's
gonna
get
it.
You
know
there's
something
that
happened
this
weekend
and
we
were
talking
about
a
players.
E
A
players
show
up
and
just
get
it
they
get
what
they
want
and
they
make
no
excuses
around
it.
They
are
so
hyper
focused
on
that
one
object,
so
they
go
and
get
it.
And
you
know
if
the
doors
closed,
they
don't
shut
down
and
you
know
say
forget
this:
they'll
go
and
they'll
find
another
opportunity
or
another
door
to
break
down.
So
that's
my
take
on
the
the
resume
piece.
A
I
got
your
question
here
Andres.
This
is
the
same
one
you
want
to
answer.
Also
got
your
resume
in
front
of
me
in
front
of
me.
So
when
I
went
and
what
we'll
do
is
hit
Andre's
question
first,
but
if
you
know
you
mentioned
that
it's
okay,
so
I'll,
so
we
you
know
talk
about
your
resume
that
I'm
looking
at
right
now
amongst
the
group,
because
I
got
questions
Andres,
who
asked
a
very
important
question
here.
Is
this
the
one
that
you
wanted?
F
So
I
got
two
yeah,
the
the
first
one
kind
of
the
that
I
listed
is
if
you're,
the
first
person
like
working
on
this,
and
no
one
else
on
the
team
has
any
experience
in
that.
How
do
you
handle
that
and
then
the
the
second
one
after
that
is?
How
do
you
prove
that
you
actually
like
know
something
so
like?
F
If
you
know
if
you
worked
on
a
specific
technology
at
a
company,
but
you
can't
really
there's
an
a
record
or
just
anything
being
like
open
source,
then
how
do
you
can
you
like
show
like
perspective,
hiring
managers
or
recruiters
that
you
are
actually
like?
You
can
do
the
task.
Okay,.
A
What
you
know
you
you're
young
in
the
game,
so
you're
not
expected
to
solve
the
problem-
and
this
is
a
this-
is
a
misconception
that
a
lot
of
people
have
when
they
get
into
these
technical
interviews
that
you
have
to
be
able
to
solve
whatever
it
is
that
they
have
in
front
of
you
know:
they're,
not
looking
for
you
to
solve
it.
You're
too
young
in
the
game,
they're.
A
Community
ask
my
questions
to
a
larger
audience,
see
if
I
can
get
some
of
that
knowledge
back,
find
the
mentor
somewhere
answer
could
be
anything
right,
but
but
the
idea
is,
you
are
constantly
seeking
information.
No,
you
do
not
know
it
all
you're
not
supposed
to
know
it
all,
but
you
can
know
it
after
you
seek
the
knowledge,
digested
the
knowledge
and
then
applied
it
for
that
purposes.
A
Companies
love
to
hear
you'll
go
out
and
get
your
own
information,
bring
it
back
and
use
it
to
create
to
generate
revenue
for
the
company,
because
that's
what
you're
doing
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you're
trying
to
generate
Revenue
whole
idea
behind
creating
problem
services
and,
if
you
think
otherwise,
I
shrug.
You
have
a
service
service
level
objective
to
reach
that
state
that
that's
time
sensitive
right.
So
so
all
that
being
said,
get
your
knowledge,
bring
it
back
to
to
to
the
first
question
here
you
have,
which
is
very
important.
A
F
Because
you
can
kind
of
be
creative
in
how
you
solve
the
problem,
you're.
A
Damn
right,
creativity,
creativity,
you
could
be
as
creative
and
as
wild
and
as
out
of
your
mind
as
you
want
to
be
some.
Let
somebody
tell
you
let's
let
somebody
else
scale
you
back.
That's
fine
right!
Your
leadership
scales,
you
back,
that's
a
business
decision,
but
don't
ever
let
that
be
something
that
inhibits
your
ability
to
like
be
wild.
A
What
if
we
did
this?
What
if
we
did
that?
Oh,
let
me
research
this
and
it
also
make
you
smarter
too.
Let
me
research
this.
Let
me
research
that
what
if
we
brought
in
and
if
we
brought
this
in
now,
the
only
drawback
to
that
is
don't
be
so
creative
that
you
don't
put
your
hand
on
the
keyboard
and
actually
do
something
always
have
something
to
show
always
when
they
come
back
and
say
hey.
How
are
we
doing?
Oh
we're
doing,
and
you
know
what
I'm
I'm
looking
at
this
fantastic
thing
here,
look
hey!
A
Take
a
look
at
what
I've
done
so
far,
I'm
researching
how
to
make
this
better
over
here,
but
this
is
what
I
put
together
so
far.
These
is
Bare
Bones.
You
know
the
the
best
thing
you
could
ever
do
for
yourself.
This
is
a
little
trick.
Not
a
lot
of
people
do
this.
If
you're
cutting
in
in
the
mindset
of
I
need
to
be,
you
know,
I
need
to
be
more
than
what
I
am
at
this
point
in
time.
A
You
you
don't
have
the
ability
to
do
this,
but
I
I
I
was
impressed
upon
you
to
do
this
in
the
beginning,
be
as
belittling
to
yourself
as
humanly
possible.
You
got
skills,
that's
why
you're
there
but
sit
there
and
say
hey
man.
This
is
very
Bare
Bones
right
now,
I,
don't
I
I,
don't
this
is
not
going
to
cure
anything.
I
put
this
together
here,
take
a
look
at
it,
but
this
is
what
I'm
also
researching
to
put
on
top
of
it
later.
Let
me
know
how
you
feel
about
this.
A
A
Do
it
quick,
too,
do
something
else
cook
something
else
up:
real
quick
while
you're
researching
the
bigger
picture
right
that
way,
you're
always
showing
advancement
you're,
always
showing
progress,
not
just
progress
of
mind
and
the
way
you
think,
but
also
action.
I
had
one
as
as
a
nice
or
she.
She
was
a
bad
Lads,
I
I
hate
saying
that,
but
but
boy
she
put
me
through
the
ringer
one
miss
Rena
Mears.
She
was
tough.
A
The
toughest
lady
I've
ever
worked
for
in
my
life
I
had
an
issue
doing
something
that
I
didn't
understand.
It
was
around
connected
cars.
This
was
way
back
once
again.
Before
connected
cars
were
sexy,
I
was
working
on
connected
cars
and
I
was
working
on
privacy
data.
The
data
privacy
revolving
around
connected
cars
and
I
was
working.
I
had
to
put
together
this
package
or
something
for
for
a
client
or
something
like
that,
and
she
hit
me
with
I,
don't
care
how
long
it
takes.
What
part
to
do
it?
A
A
I've
been
using
that
now
for
the
last
15
years,
that
was,
it
was
the
most
wonderful
thing
I've
been
using
that
for
15
years
now,
it's
one,
but
the
idea
is,
do
something
always
do
always
have
something
to
show
always
be
creative,
always
be.
You
know,
hey
I'm,
doing
this
because
it's
yours,
it's
yours,
nobody's
there
nobody's
done
it's
yours,
ask
your
questions.
Go
upstairs
well,.
H
Okay
hold
up
so
this
whole.
What
Jay
is
describing.
This
is
the
reason
why,
up
until
about
five
years
ago,
we
literally
wouldn't
hire
anyone
who
didn't
have
a
PhD
or
a
masters.
Why?
Because
it's
not
the
technical
skill
set,
you
get
it's
a
communicational
skill
set
and
the
ability
to
manage
your
own
project.
Second,
you
step
onto
a
GitHub
repo.
What
you're
gonna
do
is.
Oh
my
God
I
have
to
tell
you.
I
saw
this
once
on
a
on
a
stranger's,
GitHub,
repo
and
I.
H
H
Their
documentation
is
because
they
just
don't
need
it
so
I,
recently
I'm
working
on
a
proprietary
thing,
which
is
basically
like
a
better
than
cluster
API
for
like
super
computing
and
in
order
to
do
that,
I
go
in
and
I
step
in
on
those
experts,
documentation
of
which
there's
like
freaking
none-
and
it's
all
very
just
like
looks
like
it
works,
execute
this
and
just
like
nothing
works,
so
I
went
through
and
was
like
figuring
it
out,
rewriting
the
documentation
of
my
style,
making
additions
so
that
it
makes
sense
narratively
as
you're
going
through,
and
you
understand
the
executions
right.
H
That's
because
it's
a
reference
to
a
philosopher
who's,
talking
about
embedded
like
interfaces
on
computers,
the
same
philosopher
who
came
up
with
the
original
game
theory,
and
so
I,
then,
for
this
proprietary
and
little
open,
like
could
be
open
source
someday
I
was
like
if
we
ever
do,
I
made
a
little
logo
for
it
and
I
made
it
because
it's
unicorn
API
unicorns
stacked
on
top
of
each
other
and
explained
why
that
was
a
reference.
H
Hearkening
2
cluster
CD,
which
we've
improved
a
model
on
top
of,
and
why
understanding
the
very
philosophy
of
the
iconography
helps
you
to
understand
why
this
product
exists
and
how
you
execute
it
like
get
that
good
fall
in
love
with
the
thing
that
you're
working
on
and
provide
that
kind
of
value
in
your
documentation,
make
it
interesting
and
engaging
doesn't
matter
if
it's
like
a
super
boring.
You
know,
like
three
data
analysis
pipeline.
If
I
have
made
it
compelling
to
the
end
user
as
to
why
they're
using
it
or
what
the
outcome
is.
G
Yeah
and
I
was
I
wanted
to
kind
of
piggyback
on
one
thing,
Jay
said
even
before
he
actually
tried
to
answer
the
question
he
talked
about
in
the
interview.
You
are
asked
questions
and
you're,
not
they're,
not
really
looking
for
Solutions,
sometimes
they're,
looking
forward
to
see
that
you
can
actually
think
critically.
So,
when
you're,
given
something
a
new
project
that
nobody
else
in
the
team
has
worked
on.
G
This
is
a
great
opportunity
to
demonstrate
that
you
can
think
critically,
and
that
includes
Sal
also
said
going
out
and
finding
the
resources
the
networking,
because
they
might
not
be
within
your
team,
but
it
is
very
likely
that
somebody
somewhere
may
have
saw
something
similar.
G
So,
the
sooner
in
your
career,
you
get
to
experience
that
and
whether
you
figure
out
everything
is
a
learning
opportunity,
whether
you
get
it
right
or
not.
It's
a
learning
opportunity.
So
don't
worry
too
much
about
it.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
has
helped
me
the
way
I
do
some
of
the
things
like
I
used
to
do
these
iOS
tutorials
for
a
company
called
raywinderlick.com
and
the
way
you
would
pick
something
that
you
would
work
on
is
they'll.
Tell
you
to
pick
something
that
you
know
nothing
about.
G
You
go
and
you
do
research
about
it
and
you
come
out
by
writing
a
documentation,
a
tutorial,
something
really
clean
and
because
I've
gone
through
that
process.
So
many
times,
I
have
no
problem,
just
diving
into
something
that
I
don't
know
much
about,
because
I
figure
out
whether
the
resources
are
there
or
not.
I
will
be
able
to
experiment
and
figure
it
out.
G
F
A
Thank
you
so
much
this
last
few
minutes
or
or
what
we
probably
have
more
in
the
last
few
minutes.
But
soon
we
we
got,
we
got
the
we
got.
Some
got
some
talk
in
to
do
now.
I've
been
I've,
been
going,
I've
been
going
that
suly's.
A
Simple
boom,
but
also
there
are
links
in
the
resume
to
the
tour,
her
LinkedIn
or
GitHub,
and
her
her
personal
website.
Suli
has
a
personal
website.
A
You
don't
often
see
that
right
now
here
goes
here.
Here
goes
the
it
goes.
The
rub:
I'ma
get
I'm
gonna,
give
you
a
couple
of
seconds
well,
a
couple
of
seconds
here
and
I'm.
Looking
at
this
on
one
box,
so
I
can't
share
it
here,
as
a
matter
of
fact
hold
on
one.
Second,
do
you
mind
the
video?
If
everyone
else
has
this
link.
B
So
I
always
edit
the
resume
depending
on
the
company.
This
is
specific
for
pictures
yeah,
so
so
I.
A
So
so
he
goes
my
two
cents
on
a
resume.
First
of
all,
I
think
the
way
you
have
outlined
your
LinkedIn
page,
we'll
get
into
that
in
a
second
I.
Think,
that's
I
think
that's
solid
at
first
glance.
Excuse
me,
your
personal
web
page
I
think
that's
solid
at
first
glance
as
well.
A
I
think
your
I
appreciate
you
having
all
this
right.
It
makes
it
easier
for
a
potential
employer
to
to
take
a
look
at,
and
it
shows
that
you
that
you're
utilizing
the
skills
you
have
towards
advertising
and
promoting
yourself.
Okay,
now
you
only
have
a
very
short
period
of
time
as
an
engineer
and
your
education
isn't
in
engineering,
which
is
not
bad
right,
you're
allowed
to
change
careers,
it's
good
right.
A
What
I
notice
about
your
resume?
This
is
from
a
business
standpoint,
so
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
business.
Look
on
your
resume,
not
an
engineering
look
I,
looked
at
your
resume
from
an
engineer's
eyes
and
I
say:
okay,
she
might
have
some
skills
from
a
business
perspective.
I,
looked
at
your
resume
and
I
said:
okay,
tell
me:
I
I,
don't
see,
I,
see
some
some
percentages
here
and
all
that,
but
the
percentages
that
I'm
looking
at
here
are
not
reflective
of
of
of
what
they
would
mean
to
me
as
a
business
right.
A
Why
would
I
care
about
you
know?
It
says,
resulting
in
20
increase
in
user
engagement
and
an
improved
overall
user
satisfaction?
What
does
that
number
actually
mean
to
the
organization?
So
what
what
does
that
actually
mean?
I
I,
don't
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
what
that
would
actually
mean
to
an
Enterprise
as
a
whole.
It
sounds
good.
I,
just
don't
know
what
that
means
from
a
business
perspective,
why
would
I
care
right
so
I
want
you
to
take
a
look
I
want
you
to
think
with
that
also
with
these
jobs.
A
Now
this
is
something
I
used
to
do
when
I
was
when
I
was
breaking
into
when
I
was
when
I
was
a
bank
robber.
That's
how
I,
how
I
described
one
I
was
a
bank
robber
and
I
was
breaking
into
systems
and
doing
all
that,
and
that's
the
kind
of
work
that
I
was
applying
for.
One
of
the
things
I
did
was
I.
I
said
this
is
what
I
did
for
this
company.
These
are
the
this
is
what
I
did
for
this
company.
This
was
the
result
of
what
I
did.
A
This
is
what
I
found.
This
is
how
much
money
I
saved
the
company
as
a
result,
underneath
skills
used
schools
used
right
as
an
engineer,
any
engineer
and
any
one
of
these
positions
you
want
to
you,
you
want
to
understand.
Well
what
skills
exactly
did
you
use
for
that?
What
was
the
methodology
you
used
or
the
different
methodologies,
especially
since
you're
so
new
to
the
game?
It
becomes
relevant
right.
You
don't
you
because
the
only
piece
of
Education
you
would
have
here
is
around
Business
Administration,
Management
and
Entrepreneurship.
A
If
I
were
to
look
at
that
school,
Suffolk
University,
which
I'm
very
familiar
with
and
look
at
that
curriculum
and
I
and
I,
say:
okay,
I,
don't
see
in
that
curriculum
where
they
would
have
engine
any
engineering
skills
skills
at
all.
But
then
I
see
these
jobs
here
that
you've
done
and
I
see
that
you
develop
full
stack
travel
agency
app.
Well,
what
does
full
stack
mean
to
you
all
right?
Just
it
put
down
the
hearing,
skills
and
tools
used.
A
There
are
actual
tools
that
are
used,
that
a
full
stack
engineer
uses
there
are
tools
right.
So
what
tools
are
those
I
see
over
here
on
skills?
You
have
react,
get
SQL,
mongodb,
node.js
and
Amazon.
Ws
I
know
each
of
these.
So
if
I'm,
an
engineer
and
I
look
over
here
and
I,
see
you
this
I'm,
like
okay
yeah,
the
general
very
general
in
your
approach
to
what
you've
used
to
develop.
Tell
me
over
here
when
you
say
full
stack,
you're,
a
full
stack
engineer
for
Wayfair.
A
A
You
wanna
see
what
I'm
saying
like
I
I
wanna
I
like
because
you
have
such
a
short
time.
You
really
do
want
to
identify.
This
is
how
long
I
use
these
skills
and
these
tools,
and
this
is
how
long
I
use
them
for
also
what
what
I'd
like
for
for
you
to
do
for
us
is
give
us
an
idea
of
the
positions
you
are
applying
for,
so
that
we
can
better
guide
the
positions.
You
should
be
looking
for
right
now.
That
will
help
you.
A
You
got
a
leapfrog
right.
You
you
got
to
play
that
game.
You
got
to
play
the
game
where
I
want
to
learn
this,
so
I
should
go
after
so
I
should
go
work
for
a
company
that
does
this.
These
are
the
list
of
skills
I
have
already,
but
this
is
the
stuff
that
I've
been
learning
and
I
want
to
use
these
learned
skills
to
help
you
build
this.
A
A
Have
you
heard
that
before
situation
task
the
action
you
did
in
that
task
and
the
result
of
it
right
all
right?
So
you
got
to
use
that
and
the
way
that
you
describe
that
is
based
now.
What
I
saw
here
is
you
have
a
GitHub
site,
but
when
I
went
to
projects,
I
didn't
see
any
projects
that
you
either
started
or
that
you
were
working.
I
saw
a
whole
bunch
of
repositories,
but
I
didn't
see
any
projects,
I
don't
care.
If
it's
creating
a
damn
time,
clock
I,
don't
care.
A
If
it's
creating
a
algorithm
for
developing
I,
don't
know
labels
for
Campbell's
soup,
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
care
I,
don't
care
what
it
is.
You
are
telling
people
I
I.
My
formal
education
is
in
the
business,
so
I
understand,
Revenue
generation,
I,
understand
promotion,
the
three
p's
or
whatever
it
is
I
I,
I've
long
since
removed
from
my
MBA
and
all
that,
but
but
the
but
there's
the
P's.
A
You
know
what
I'm
talking
about
you
have
I'm
removed
from
all
of
that,
but
but
I
know
how
to
generate
revenue
and
I
know
what
that
looks
like
from
a
business
standpoint
now
I
can
translate
what
I
learned
on
the
business
side
and
I
can
say.
As
an
engineer,
I
can
engineer
and
say:
I
know
what
would
make
a
company
money
and
I
can
engineer
and
I
can
create
apps
and
then
I
could
turn
around
and
say:
I
created
this
app
because
it
will
do
X,
Y
and
Z
for
your
organization's
fiduciary
all
right.
A
H
Yeah,
so
it's
when
you're
like
at
every
job
or
internship,
you
have
that
single
page
document
document
no
longer,
no
matter
how
long
you're
at
a
job.
It's
always
a
single
page
document
and
continuously
revise
it
with
what
you
worked
on,
what
value
it
was,
if
you
can
at
some
point
in
your
career,
actually
get
on
the
metrics
of
like
what
your
Revenue
value
was.
That
becomes
very
key
to
your
negotiation,
because
a
business
will
never
spend
more
than
like.
You
have
to
outweigh
the
value
of
your
salary
by
eight
times
or
more.
H
So
if
you
have
a
quarter
million
dollar
salary
in
cyber
security,
that's
because
you're
protecting
assets
that
are
more
than
eight
times
that
right.
So
it's!
It's
really
understanding
that
and
that's
when
I
go
to
my
negotiations.
That's
it!
So
a
couple
of
things,
though,
on
on
imposter
syndrome,
two
things
I,
think
I'm
gonna,
tell
you
a
story
and
then
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
thing
that
I
literally
use
a
tool
that
I
use.
H
So
the
first
conference
I
ever
spoke
at
was
years
ago.
I
was
still
using
the
name
Sarah
before
a
book
came
out.
That
was
like
the
Phoenix
project.
Has
the
project
manager
named
Sarah
and
she's
awful
and
so
I
was
like?
H
Okay,
fine
I
have
to
change
my
name
so,
but
I
I
went
to
this
conference
closure
which,
by
the
way,
if
you
want
a
job,
just
put
that
on
your
resume
people
hire
you
right
away
and
nobody
working
in
closure
actually
knows
how
that
language
works
either
so
like
you're,
not
behind,
but
like
I
go
up
there
and
then
I've
got
a
great
talk.
Then
a
woman
comes
on
after
me,
about
middle
age
comes
on,
gives
a
great
technical
talk
and
then
someone
says
I'm.
H
Sorry,
ma'am
I
think
you
misinterpreted
Paul's
like
intention
for
this
function,
it's
a
lispy
language.
That's
all
we
talk
about
and
immediately
instead
of
responding
to
that
question
another
person
in
the
room,
the
person
who
invented
the
closure
language,
the
maintainer
just
takes
the
microphone
from
them
and
says
what
a
stupid
question
and
walks
away.
Why
I
didn't
know
this
because
Paul
and
the
woman
on
that
stage
were
the
same
person
10
years
apart.
She
had
in
fact
invented
the
freaking
function.
She
freaking
knew
how
it
worked
right.
H
So
that
goes
to
show
you
you
can
literally
be
the
expert
in
the
room
and
imposter
syndrome
is
not
something
that
you
should
identify
within
yourself.
It's
something
you
are
feeling
because
you're
in
a
hostile
environment
so
make
sure
I
tell
people
whenever
you're
walking
in
a
room.
Are
you
going
to
a
room
with
wolves?
Are
you
actually
going
into
a
room
with
sea
lions?
Do
they
really
want
you
to
be
there
because
everyone
else
in
that
room
is
freaking
lovely?
It's
one
of
my
favorite
developer
groups.
H
I
still
hang
out
with
them,
but
I
don't
put
closure
on
my
resume
because
I
am
so
sick
of
the
recruitment
emails.
So
the
last
thing
that
you
really
I
I
use
for
all
of
these
once
you
have
a
job
offer
in
hand,
and
you
do
not
want
to
be
screwed,
as
you
probably
will
be,
with
your
first
job
offer,
you
are
going
to
use
something
called
81
cents
and
if
you
need
someone
to
sponsor
you
to
pay
for
it,
I
will
pay
for
it.
H
Cost
like
150
to
250
I,
don't
know
now
it's
changed,
but
that's
always
good,
because
what
they
go
and
do
is
say
for
this
field,
for
this
position
we'll
look
at
your
resume
and
we
will
also
go
talk
to
30
to
40
experts
working
in
that
field.
In
that
City
we
get
all
of
the
data
from
them.
I
always
give
my
data
when
they
ping
out
to
me
like
london-based
cyber
security,
here's
the
offer
they
got.
How
does
it
compare
to
your
offer?
H
So
it's
good
just
to
be
networked
in
that
generally,
but
I
then
don't
have
a
stage
where
I
say
I
think
I
deserve
this
number
I
go
with
a
literal,
35
page
third-party
report.
H
That
cannot
be
argued
with
because,
statistically,
if
you
are
from
presenting,
you
are
significantly
more
likely
to
receive
a
no
and
no
negotiation.
Make
no
room
for
that.
You
have
to
come
with
the
data.
That
is
one
way
that
I
have
safety
to
myself
and
I've
not
had
to
have
the
conversation
around
a
no
because
the
data
doesn't
allow
them
to
do
that.
E
H
A
H
A
Throw
a
link
in
there
absolutely
I
I
just
want
to
add
this
one
comment:
this
is
this
the
last
thing
I'm
gonna
say
out
of
my
mouth
today,
because
I
spoke
a
lot,
so
so
the
greatest
asset
you
have
I
hope
you
still
have
it
hold
on.
So
let
me
make
sure.
Let
me
let
me
let
me
make
sure
here.
Let
me
let
me
take
a
look
here
again
because
I
didn't
see
when
you
you
didn't
yeah,
you
don't
have
when
you
graduated
from
college.
A
The
greatest
asset
you
have
is
the
fact
that
you
have
a
business
degree.
Now,
if
you
ask
me
when
I
tell
my
mentees,
my
mentees
tell
me
they
want
to
study
business
administration,
I,
say
business
administration,
ain't,
a
damn
degree,
I,
don't
give
a
damn
what
anybody
says.
Business
administration
is
at
best
a
minor
or
at
best
something
you
add
something
on
to
that:
I,
don't
get
that's
not
a
degree
as
you're.
Finding
out
now
right
got
help.
You
wouldn't
be
trying
to
be
an
engineer
if
you
could
make
money
with
a
business
administration
degree.
A
It's
a
business
function,
your
greatest
asset
here
to
be
able
to
articulate
how
your
your
worth
to
a
company
in
dollars
and
cents
as
cells,
as
Sal
said
before,
but
you
utilize
that
language
you
used
that
management
and
Entrepreneurship
language
you
use
and
your
business
administration
agreed
to
do
it.
That's
it.
That's
all
I'm,
saying
I.
E
Really
love
that,
because
one
of
the
things
that
I
do
before
I
start
in
a
in
hiring
or
before
my
interview
is
I
understand
the
business,
how
profitable
of
them
are
what's
Their
audience?
What's
their
Vision
their
mission,
their
core
values?
What's
the
latest
project,
what
security
breaches
have
they've
had
in
the
last
couple
years,
because
it's
not
just
coming
in
and
you
know,
working
on
a
bunch
of
tasks,
it's
building
towards
a
company's
Mission
and
making
sure
that
whatever
you
do
is
meeting
the
objectives
towards
their
success,
because
their
success
is
your
success.
E
So
you
actually
have
I've
had
to
learn
business
and
the
pieces
behind
it.
You're
coming
in
from
that,
so
I
totally
I'm,
like
Goosebumps,
fired
up
right
now
from
this
whole
conversation.
But
you
can
use
that
to
comment
in
from
a
different
approach,
because
all
the
engineers
that
they're
going
to
be
talking
to
are
going
to
go
into
the
technical
details,
I'm
a
journalist
in
cyber
security.
E
So
when
I
enter
the
room
I'm
entering
from
the
business
problem
and
how
we're
going
to
solve
it
from
a
business
perspective,
top
level
strategy
rather
than
the
technical
weeds
of
the
the
works
so
we're
at
the
last
two
minutes,
I
wanted
to
switch
up
and
ask
the
folks
that
are
new.
What
did
you
get
out
of
this
call,
and
how
can
we
make
this
better.
F
I
was
I
was
affectionately,
gonna
say,
like
oh,
just
have
like
a
longer
meeting.
This
is
like
super,
effective
and
kind
of
just
learning
just
stuff.
That
will
probably
take
me
a
while
to
learn
on
my
own,
so
learning
it
from
others.
Who've
kind
of
been
in
that
spot
I've
been
just
taking
down
notes
the
entire
time
so
yeah
yeah.
F
It
was
definitely
helpful
and
potentially
another
thing
to
improve
on
are
like
the
sites
or
any
specific
resources
to
read
or
just
kind
of
learn
up
like
81
cents
or
even
the
the
Phoenix
project
book.
H
Phoenix
project
read
that,
but
just
do
the
audiobook
and
it's
not
totally
relevant
anymore,
but
my
newest
decision
I
love
this
book.
So
much
I
just
got
like
my
new,
like
2023,
all
the
new
books
that
came
out
this
one.
You
have
got
to
read
this,
so
this
is
like
ostensibly
so
write.
A
lot
of,
like
intelligence
is
like
going
out.
You
like
pen,
test
capture
things.
H
This
is
the
defense
side
and
this
is
like
all
of
our
best
new
techniques
and
it's
the
newest
one,
and
it's
so
beautiful,
I
love
it
and
the
very
end
of
this
ends
with
like
the
one
thing
that
no
Security
Professionals
so
far
have
been
able
to
get
us
around,
and
it's
literally
so
I
was
talking
to
solely
about
this
before
it's
like
the
npnp
problem,
cipheretics,
so
I'm
trying
to
get
like
read
this
and
you'll
literally
understand
the
best
techniques
that
we
have
as
a
2023
and
you're
not
going
to
find
them
online
they're.
H
A
Thank
you.
If
you
guys
need
to
talk
to
any
of
us
offline,
get
our
information.
Man
I
love
this
stuff.
This
I
live
for
this.
This
is
okay.
I
do
I
look
forward,
so
by
all
means
get
our
information
find
us
talk
to
us
offline
hit,
the
damn
you
know.
If
you
don't
have
my
LinkedIn
get
my
LinkedIn
find
me
on
it.
Believe
me,
quantity.
The
only
way
you'll
find
me
I,
don't
ever
use
my
actual
name
hold
on
a
second
I.
Don't
use
my
government's
name.
You.
E
B
B
The
best
final
life
like
translate
that
in
the
resume,
so
I
can
I,
don't
know
if
it's
cutting
off
so
I
can
be
more
noticeable,
but
there
was
like
so
many
gems
that
I
need
to
like
reassure
that.
I
like
look
over
and
I
love
the
conversation.
So
thank
you
again,
Sal
for
connecting
me.
H
That
makes
it
even
easier.
Can
we
somehow
assign
any
one
of
these
mentees,
maybe
to
what
I
would
love
for
you
to
start
doing
is
start
collaboratively
all
of
you
working
on
a
like
blog
post
that
talks
about
like
your
experiences,
your
findings,
not
necessarily
the
stuff
but
like
as
you
are
like
working
through
and
engaging
with
the
Linux
Foundation,
like
what
resources
have
you
found
important,
what's
been
valuable
to
you
right
so
as
you're
onboarding
yourselves
do
what
I
just
told
you?
H
H
Yeah,
okay,
so
that's
Tiffany,
bow
Miland,
Tam,
Cliff,
Wang,
cyber
deception,
techniques,
strategies
and
human
aspects.
So
specifically,
I
use
this
because
I've
got
to
like
run.
My
right.
I've
got
like
15
Steps
to
identify
if
a
person's
real
or
a
bot
and
if
they're
real,
are
they
good
or
are
they
not
do
they
know
that
Honeypot
I
don't
know,
but
I
can
know
this
book's,
so
cool.
It's
the
cutting,
Cutting
Edge,
it's
it's
my
favorite
and.
A
H
H
You
lean
on
these
two
things,
so
these
are
the
best
two.
This
is
like
counter
offense
intelligence
going
in
trying
to
get
into
systems,
pen
testing,
best
pen,
testing
techniques
in
the
world-
everything
including
Discord
as
of
this
year-
and
this
is
The
Cutting
Edge
of
actually
building
like
if
you're,
building
a
bank
or
anything
else-
and
you
want
these
people
and
not
to
get
in
this
combination.
So
yeah,
it's
like
300
bucks,
but
this
is
better
than
a
freaking
degree.
If
I
had
someone
who
had
this
education
and
nothing
else,
I
could
employ
them.
E
For
the
mentees,
if
you
have
any
further
questions
comments
or
anything
that
you
wanted
to
highlight
on
improving
and
what
you'd
like
to
see
next
feel
free
to
just
reach
out
to
me
and
certainly
you're
about
to
say
something.
I.
B
Know
this
is
immensely
group.
How
can
I
be
part
of
it
like
because
I
want
to
know
like
the
next
meetings
and
stuff
I
think
someone
actually
shares?
Oh.
E
So
this
call
isn't
a
mentee
group,
the
one
of
the
open
source
projects,
the
alpha
maker
project,
just
hired
four
individuals
for
the
summer,
you're
more
than
welcome
to
join
us.
If
you're
interested
in
doing
some
Alpha
Omega
work
and
work
alongside
them,
I
have
some
additional
work
and
projects.
E
We
could
talk
about
it
and
see
where
you're
interested
and
where
you're
going
and
then
this
way
I
can
get
you
working
with
them
as
well.
So,
if
you're
interested
in
doing
any
software
development,
technical
writing,
video
or
content
whatever
it
is
that
you
can
assist
and
contribute
and
looking
to
move
and
grow
just
Reach,
Out,
LinkedIn
or
slack
and
oh
I'll,
just
sending
my
calendar
daily,
you
could
just
schedule
a
call.
A
H
Yeah,
and
also
like
also
have
a
little
bit
of
fun
with
it
be
creative,
like
one
of
my
mentees
just
went
and
did
a
Zine
all
based
around
new
art
visualizations
from
vulnerability
statistics.
So
it's
still
cyber
security,
but
that
was
really
interesting,
engaged
audiences
and
got
them
to
understand
really
serious
Concepts.
F
I
think
I
have
the
inverse
of
your
Ocean's
book.
I
have
the
like
extreme
privacy
and
that's
the
next
book.
I
was
gonna
like
kind
of
she's.
H
H
No
sorry
I
have
that
one
too
I
haven't
read
through
it,
yet
I
I'm
like
I'm,
trying
to
wait
on
that
one
because
it's
poof,
but
yes,
it's
so
good,
and
my
last
note
is
like
because
it's
so
interesting
because
this
is
all
like
it's
all
stats
on
one
side.
On
the
other
side,
it's
like
well,
it
kind
of
feels
like
you're
being
monitored.
If
you
do
it
on
Chrome,
but
not
on
this,
it
just
feels
weird
so
interesting.
So
that's
it
that's
the
end.
Cyber
security
is
very
cool
foreign.
E
I'll
keep
an
eye
out
for
when
this
gets
posted
and
probably
have
it
on
my
LinkedIn.
If
you
want
to
be
tagged
on
it,
let
me
know
and
I'll
tag
you
but
great
call.
Any
questions
shoot
us
a
message
on
slack
reach
out
schedule,
time
with
me
on
on
calendar
and
reach
out
to
the
other
amazing
folks.
We
had
on
this
call
as
well.