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From YouTube: Education SIG DEI Subcommittee (February 28, 2023)
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B
C
B
A
Yeah
I
wonder
how
tight
the
the
last
time
I
had
to
go
into.
Canada
I
ended
up
having
to
go
in
the
little
room.
I
can't
really
remember
what
that
was
about.
Oh,
you
know
what
it
was
about.
I
had
a
I
had
to
turn
I
had
two
turtles
I
had
two
turtles
in
my
bag
and
I
forgot.
They
were
in
there.
No,
no!
No!
No!
No!
No!
No,
like.
B
A
Do
those
pack,
five
men
in
the
middle
Turtles
I,
had
them
sitting
in
my
bag?
I
ended
up
sitting
in
a
little
room
for
like
two
hours
off
of
that
it
was
a
turtle
and
it
was
one
of
those
one
of
those
god.
I
can't
remember
the
the
name,
the
name
of
the
company,
but
one
of
those
things
that
you
do
that
you
could
do
a
rogue,
a
rogue
AP,
a.
B
B
A
Oh,
so
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about
if
I
showed
it
to
them,
I
had
a
white
one,
a
teal
one.
They
all
had
different
strengths,
but
I
would
sit
there
and
stick
them
around
thinking.
I
mean
anyway,
I
used
to
create
a
whole
I
used
to
create
a
whole
like
mesh
networks.
Anyway,
I
had
those
in
my
bag
and
I
forgot.
They
were
in
there.
I
sat
in
a
room
for
two
hours
off
of
that
going
into
Canada.
A
D
D
B
B
B
You
need
to
have
a
GitHub
ID
or
something
equivalent
Sophie,
so
please
register
to
vote
and
that
will
be
opening
up
I
think
shortly
after
the
12th
and
the
elections
will
they'll
send
out
a
the
first
off
vet,
all
candidates
that
they're
eligible
to
run
for
the
tax,
and
then
they
will
send
a
note
out
to
all
the
membership
to.
Please
express
your
opinion
on
who
you'd
like
to
be
on
the
attack
and
then
there's
also
a
security
Community
member,
so
independent
person
generally.
B
These
folks
are
non-affiliated
with
like
a
governing
board
organization,
but
if
you're
interested
in
kind
of
nominating
yourself
to
be
that
role
and
that
role
kind
of
sits
on
the
governing
board
and
advises
the
tech.
So
if
you're
interested
in
that
position,
there's
another
self-nomination
thing
and
I
think
they're
they're
going
to
coincide
that
with
the
tech
election.
B
C
B
B
Maybe
two
hours
a
week
in
general,
you
review
PRS
you
kind
of
use
your
technical
Acumen
to
make
judgments
on
our
things
in
line
with
the
foundation's
vision
and
goals
for
the
individual,
Community
member
there's
a
larger
time
commitment,
because
you
actually
do
all
the
governing
board
stuff,
which
happens
monthly
and
then
there
are
quarterly
or
bi-annual
events.
So
that's
a
little
bit
bigger
commitment,
but
you
have
you
know
much
more
you're.
The
the
reach
of
your
influence
is
much
broader
there
at
the
GB.
D
D
Yeah
and
I
haven't
done
as
one
of
the
opens
open,
ssf
town
hall
and
just
to
kind
of
get
a
sense.
I
know
that's
coming
up
in
a
couple
of
weeks
to
just
get
a
sense
of
what
we
want
to
talk
about,
so
we
can
chat
about
that.
A
little
bit
later,
I
was
hoping
that
Max
would
be
here
because
he
actually
put
together
this
road
map
that
we
wanted
to
look
at
as
follow-up
from
our
action
item
from
the
last
meeting.
E
Yeah,
okay,
so,
based
on
our
talk,
there's
still
a
couple
things
I
want
to
finish
tweaking
with
this,
but
so
I
have
it
set
up
like
this
I
think
I
might
need
to
actually
add
one
more
page
just
to
help
discuss
some
of
this.
But
if
you
have
an
about
page,
this
is
why
I
have
the
orgs
listed
different
conferences.
E
The
key
would
just
help
it
explain
all
of
the
subgroups
there
and
then
resources
will
just
be
listed
website
links
that
I
found
that
had
links
to
different
orgs
to
kind
of
go
back
and
use
it.
So
I'm
going
to
highlight
this
area,
so
people
can
go
back
and
figure
out
what
words
you
want
to
use
to
address.
E
Whatever
particular
group
I
am
not
a
word
specialist
and
don't
want
to
offend
anyone
so
so
like,
for
example,
I
put
black
here,
I
tried
to
make
sure
we
went
at
racial,
ethnic,
gender,
neurodivergent
geographical
areas
and
I
didn't
leave
that
limited
to
any
particular
country
right.
So,
even
if
we
go
here
in
the
U.S
right,
we
might
have
a
Midwest
group.
We
might
have
an
East
group.
E
We
might
have
a
West
Coast
group
right
and
they
might
work
jointly,
I,
don't
know
they
could
work
jointly
with
another
International
group
right,
so
I
tried
to
kind
of
keep
just
some
racial
identification
terms,
gender
and
kind
of
genderless
or
gender
neutral
right,
I
I
know
it
sounds
antithesis
of
each
other,
but
not
to
be
kind
of
limited,
and
then
so
you
know
I've.
Obviously,
I
did
Continental
just
to
try
and
show
it
can
Asian
right.
E
So
this
could
be
like
an
Indian
cyber
group
or
Chinese
Malaysia
right
just
to
give
an
idea
of
when
we
say
region
right
or
it
could
be,
a
country
could
be
a
region
within
a
country
right
so
I.
That's
why
I
kind
of
use
the
terms
Latin
or
they
just
let's
say
like
we're
talking
about
Colombia.
They
could
just
be
Colombian
group
European,
so
I
did
that
for
pretty
much
all
the
continents
of
Antarctica,
neurodivergent,
sexual
preference,
disability
veterans
and
so
I.
E
Have
these
groups
listed
down
here,
I
also
added
age,
just
as
intro
here
and
we
come
in,
so
people
are
familiar
with
who
we're
talking
about
I'll,
go
back
and
add
a
couple
definitions,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
enough
on
here
started
where
people
have
examples
to
kind
of
jump
in
from
the
org
list.
Here.
E
Obviously,
you
know
I'll
go
back
and
pretty
some
of
this
up,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
get
the
basic
term
to
follow
along.
So
here,
like
I,
have
black
girls
at
hack,
that's
the
name
of
the
organization
Pierce
who
actually
owns
it.
Here's
who
their
target
group
is
purpose
Mission
if
I
couldn't
copy
it
off
your
site.
Everything
is
here
something
I
copied
off
the
site.
I
did
not
summarize.
I
did
not
paraphrase,
because
I
didn't
want
to
make
sure
I
was
leaving
stuff
out.
E
Then
I
have
what
are
the
Key
Programs
initiatives
once
again,
this
is
all
stuff
taken
out.
The
site.
I
will
go
back
and
fill
in
some
of
these
existing
alliances
with
other
non-profits
so
like
here
with
Races.
They
have
it
right
up
here
on
the
site.
Hey
we
work
with
these
other
non-profit
groups.
Doing
things
location
where
they're
located
at
the
org
size
is
a
little
special
and
I'll,
make
sure
I
leave
that
highlighted
and
yellow.
E
If
people
want
to
go
and
look
because
some
places
didn't
really
have
their
numbers,
websites
and
I
didn't
go
back
and
add
in
like
LinkedIn
or
other
sites.
They
might
have
there.
Some
of
it
is
on
the
page,
but
I
was
just
trying
to
get
a
lot
of
the
basic
information
here.
So
we
know
what
we're
dealing
with
with
getting
a
list
and
where
they're,
looking
at
and
different
things
that
are
already
out
there,
that
some
of
these
groups
do
because
I
know,
we've
had
this
discussion
about
doing
mentorship
or
doing
teaching.
E
Conferences,
I
really
haven't
finished
filling
this
in
but
like,
for
example,
I
did
the
races
across
here.
This
is
their
conferences
up
there
and
we
just
have
what
are
their
big
activities?
What's
the
goal
of
the
conference
end
date,
I
really
need
to
add
on
here
something
like
RSA,
where
I
know
they
might
have
a
call
out
where
they
do
different
diversity.
E
E
Yeah
the
other
thing
here
that
I
wanted
to
add
here
and
I
know
it's
kind
of
getting
long
right,
I,
try
and
make
sure
and
do
stuff
that
it
worst
case
scenario.
You
had
to
print
it
out,
maybe
8
by
14
right
and
it
could
go
a
long
ways
14
right
worse,
because
some
people,
some
people,
are
paid
for
people
right.
Obviously,
I'll
put
a
filter
on
this,
but
I
wasn't
sure
if
I
should
add
sponsors
here
right.
E
There
are
some
orgs
that
are
sponsored
by
bigger
organizations
and
already
have
some
of
that
stuff
set
up
and
I
think
as
far
as
us
looking
at
Partners
in
different
groups,
some
of
that
might
be
interesting
to
know
hey.
All
of
these
are
Microsoft
sponsored,
or
these
are
Google
sponsors,
so
that
was
the
only
other
category.
I
was
thinking
about
adding
here
to
help
get
a
snapshot,
but
I
didn't
know
if
it
was
kind.
A
Thoughts
on
it,
actually
that
that's
that,
that's
actually
very,
very
believe
it
or
not.
That's
very
important,
because
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
get
ourselves
jammed
up
in
a
situation
where
the
sponsor
of
that
organization
might
be
a
little
bit
off,
and
that
can
happen
that
can
happen
where
a
group
might
be
sponsored
by
someone
that
we
don't
want
to
really
be
affiliated
with.
E
A
E
So
that's
why
I
thought
that
was
kind
of
important
when
kind
of
looking
at
relationships
and
some
of
the
things
that
some
of
these
organizations
are
doing
and
another
thing
I
had
like
I
found
like
a
couple
of
LGBT,
I'm,
just
gonna,
say
alphabet
right,
because
I
don't
want
to
listen,
but
they
have
like
they
have
like
some
slack
channels.
They
really
were
like
oh
we're
here
for
support,
but
it
really
wasn't
an
org.
C
E
C
See
where
I
was
gonna
hand
up,
but
I'm
Gonna
State,
one
thing:
if
we
get
a
sub
list
of
these,
that
we're
comfortable
with
what
I'd
recommend
doing
is
an
impact
analysis
for
a
non-profit
or
for-profit,
doesn't
matter
when
you're
deciding
on
strategic
Partnerships.
You
can
do
a
really
nice
little
weighted
calculation.
I
want
to
know
what
is
the
longevity
of
the
organization
itself?
C
How
many
current
engagements
does
it
have?
How
many
individuals
engage
with
that
period,
and
the
third
thing
that
I
need
to
have
is
how
much
funding
has
it
had
for
how
long
if
I
can
get
that
or
if
I
just
have?
How
long
have
they
had
funding
those
three
things.
Allow
you
to
empirically
State
whether
or
not
it's
worth
one
organization
partnering
with
another.
In
this
case,
we
don't
want
to
be
doing
this
by
empiricism
exclusively,
but
it's
going
to
radically
assist.
D
B
I
also
want
to
say
spectacular,
work
Nicole.
This
is
excellent.
I
kind
of
echo,
a
part
of
Jay's
comment
that
you
know
we
may
want
to
have
that
sponsorship.
Information
because
maybe
they
have
their
values,
don't
meet
the
values
of
the
open,
ssf
or
kind
of
our
objectives,
but
then
another
vote
for
sponsorship,
for
example,
Intel
sponsors,
both
wesis
and
the
Diana
initiative,
and
if
we
know
that
you
know-
and
we
know
that
there's
a
relationship
I
can
go-
try
to
find
those
people
inside
my
organization.
B
D
E
E
So
they're
there
and
I
am
going
to
like
asterisk
superscripted
number
or
something
like
that.
Just
to
know
hey.
These
are
ones
that
are
already
sponsored.
You
know
already
have
a
partnership
with
open
sff
that
is
there,
but
they
want
to
show
you
all.
I
am
working
on
it,
trying
to
put
it
together,
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
cut
I
did
hear
from
you.
Sal
I
will
add
a
column
in
here
that
has
founded
year
in
there.
That's
on
most
of
the
sites.
C
D
D
I
was
about
to
kind
of
like
go
in
that
direction,
so
this
is.
It
looks
like
it's
an
Excel
spreadsheet,
if
you
as
soon
as
possible,
if
he
can
get
it
somewhere,
where
more
of
us
can
collaborate,
we
can
start
filling
in
sell
those
gaps,
because
it
looks
like
it's
in
a
pretty
good
shape
right
now
for
us
to
actually
jump
in
yeah
and
add
yeah.
E
E
Yeah
I
want
to
make
sure
I
mean
I,
guess
that's
why
I
was
trying
to
get
it
to
to
a
workable
state
where
people
could
jump
in
and
take
stuff
back.
It's
just
me
I
feel
like
I
got
to
get
to
a
good
Baseline
of
where
everything
is
so
then
it's
easier,
saying:
okay!
Well
now
we
have
a
working
framework.
You
know
go
nuts
bend
it
twisted
how
you
want,
but
we
we
kind
of
got
some
of
the
meat
there.
Yeah.
C
C
E
Being
because,
like
I
said,
nobody
really
has
like
a
good
list
with
everything.
I
was
just
really
kind
of
shocked
by
that
right.
There
might
be
an
article
about
black
people
here
or
Latino
or
no
Divergent,
but
there's
not
one
comprehensive
list,
and
if
we
get
this
up
to
a
certain
number,
I
would
love
to
have
something
up
here.
Where,
as
organizations
form,
they
could
fill
out
a
form
and
have
something
there
to
kind
of
help
with
keeping
this
up
and
I.
Think
that
would
be
good,
saying,
hey,
look.
E
D
C
True,
so
that's
going
to
require
us
one.
We're
gonna
have
to
put
this
in
a
reusable
dock.
We'll
use
the
Google
Excel
thing
wheel
sheets,
then
after
we,
if
we
do
describe
and
describe
a
specific
template
to
this
I
can
just
go,
make
a
Google
front
to
this
and
ask
people
that
will
be
a
continuous
impression
that
we
can
Surface,
because
every
time
you
send
out
an
email
to
all
of
your
corporate
mail
leads
should
have
that
in
there.
What
content
do
you
have?
What
are
your
servicings
cool?
A
Oh
no
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
I
mean
everybody's,
saying
everything
else
I
would
say
this
is
this
is
phenomenal
work
you
know,
and-
and
we
can
all
we
can
do
is
add
to
it
and
you're
right.
I
would
say
you
know,
there's
no
comprehensive
list
out
there
until
now
right
and
we
and
we're
we
know
we're
we're,
creating
it
and
and
I
would
say
that,
because
there's
no
comprehensive
list
out
there,
and
so
now
this
might
be
something
that
gets
published
somewhere
right.
A
So
that's
even
a
that's,
an
additional
thought
right,
no
I
mean
and
and
to
do
something
like
that
on
on
a
national
on
an
international
scale,
I
mean
you
know
talking
about
impact
right.
So
these
are.
These
are
all
all
things
you
know
from
our
little
corner
of
the
world.
That's
that
kind
of
impact
that
that
it
can't
be
understated
right.
You
got
to
overstate
that.
D
D
Perfect,
all
right
so
Max
I
know,
one
of
the
things
wanted
to
do.
Next
is
gonna.
Go
through
your
roadmap,
Google
slide
doc
that
you
had
put
together
and
in
the
in
the
previous
meeting
we
talked
about
framing
up,
maybe
a
step,
because
we
got
two
things:
we've
got
this
roadmap
Doc
and
we
also
have
the
canva
board
that
Pro
put
together,
and
so
in
the
last
meeting
there
was
discussion
or
thought
around.
D
Let's
look
at
the
objectives
for
what's
in
the
roadmap
and
common
and
see
if
those
are
like
appropriate,
but
also
frame
up
frame
this
up
around
an
overall
mission
for
this
group
and
I,
don't
think
we've
discussed
what
is
the
mission
of
this
group,
which
may
or
may
not
be
a
much
longer
topic
so
so
the
question
is:
how
do
we
want
to
proceed
start
with
a
mission?
I'll
start
with
the
objectives.
F
F
D
Okay,
all
right
yeah
that
said
I
did
love
the
dark
because
it
actually
just
put
in
some
of
the
objectives
in
a
in
a
in
a
way
that
show
like
the
categorization.
So
we
could
probably
just
start
noodling
on
what
we
think
the
the
mission
and
the
vision
should
be
and
do
is
I
could
share.
My
screen
sounds.
C
D
D
Submission
vision:
for
me,
a
Mission
Vision
is
always
like
a
tricky
thing
to
kind
of
like
think
up.
So
this
is
where
we
need
a
collective
mindshare
in
terms
of
like
what
is
the
mission
and
the
vision,
and
hopefully
these
objectives,
you
can
kind
of
like
go
up
a
higher
level
and
see
what
is
a
vision.
C
C
C
It
has
a
little
bit
to
do
with
it,
because
it's
talking
about
how
do
you
do
diversity
and
deep
decolonization?
Well,
how
do
we
actually
buy
intention
here
is
to
have
an
aspect
of
ossf
taking
the
responsibility
seriously.
Our
goal
here
should
be,
and
this
is
sort
of
quote
unquote.
Our
goal
is
to
create
practical
Pathways
for
any
Global
citizen
to
engage
in
a
cyber
security
career.
Your
success
metrics
allow
us
to
observe
when
we
are
allowing
traditionally
underrepresented
individuals
to
tangibly
engage
in
OSS.
A
You
you
Blended
a
mission
and
vision.
You
Blended,
both
of
them
together.
Just
now
which,
which
is,
which
is
fine,
I
mean
that's
the
that's.
The
blending
of
the
two
I
mean
we
separate
them
out.
Mission
mission
is
the
is,
is
the
is
what
we're
high
level
is
going
to
be
high
level
focusing
on,
and
the
division
of
course
is,
is
what
that
looks
like.
A
What
exactly
does
that
look
like,
so
you
blend
the
both
of
them
together.
How
outstanding
I'll
tell
you
it
would
be
lovely
to
gauge
the
mission
and
vision
of
this
subcommittee,
based
on
the
mission
and
vision
of
a
larger
instance
that
this
subcommittee
could
attach
onto
Chrome
and
I
are
working
on
such
effort.
A
A
That's
all
that!
That's
a
beast!
That
should
be
up
leveled
period.
That
should
be
up
level,
there's
nothing
that
you
know.
So
so,
if
we,
if
we
get
the
larger
instance
that
is
up
level
boom,
that
that's
its
own
pillar,
then
the
the
the
mission
and
vision
of
the
education
part
becomes
a
little
bit
more
concise
and
a
little
bit
in
a
in
a
pill.
That's
easier
to
swallow
than
trying
to
you
know,
put
a
whole
bunch
in
there
at
one
time.
D
A
So
a
Deni
Sig
period,
a
Deni
Sig
that
sits
that
sits
Central
to
the
openness
Crow,
but
can
can
we
share
yeah,
go
ahead,
okay,
good
deal,
oh
so
Chrome
and
I
are
pitching
a
whole
working
group.
That's
we.
We
don't
even
have
a
name
for
yet,
but
this
working
group
sits
it.
It
sits
in
a
situation
where
we're
putting
in
the
the
you
know
a
couple
of
other,
a
Sig
that
we're
thinking
about
and
other
working
groups
right
that
shouldn't
belong
there.
A
They
should
really
belong,
centralized
right,
including
the
Deni
Sig,
which,
which
should
have
its
own
Focus
period,
and
then
underneath
that
should
be
education
should
be
Outreach
should
be.
Recruitment
should
be
all
of
those
things.
So
if
we
have
that
Deni
Sig
and
that
dni6
says
a
mission
to
to
promote
and
exactly
what
you
said,
Sal
so
wherever
you
said
in
the
beginning,
that
global
citizenship
stuff
like
that,
that
is
that's
the
mission
of
the
Deni
Sig
as
far
as
opening
stuff
is
concerned,
and
then
the
vision
to.
C
D
C
A
A
This
is
a
mission
dedicated
to
the
education
to
the
education
efforts
of
the
eni,
which
is
which,
which
is
which
will
make
that
a
little
bit
more
concise
and
a
little
bit
easier,
because
it'll
all
be
generated
based
on
the
ultimate
vision
and
mission
of
that
dnic,
which
should
be
based
on
the
efforts
of
the
openness
itself.
What
are
we?
What
are
what
do
we
want
to
accomplish
here
and
then
from
there
the
conversation
into
the
LF
into
other
open
source
communities
under
the
LF?
A
That
conversation
gets
a
little
bit
more
easier
and
understanding.
We
probably
have
we
probably
be
the
first
ones
to
do
it
in
the
LF.
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure
about
that.
I
haven't
seen
another
one,
so
so
this
so
you
know
for
the
purposes
of
the
subcommittee
we're
trying
to
stick
a
lot
into,
because
it's
all
important
all
of
it's
important.
D
A
E
A
But
this
right
here
is
the
is
what
what
probe
and
I
are
are
pitching
I
mean
you
see
all
the
stuff
if
you've
been
in
other
working
group
meetings
and
other
Sig
meetings
across
to
openness
and
stuff
you'll,
hear
us
talk
about
these
individual
things,
one
way
or
the
other,
and
then
we're
just
converging
them
now,
because
they
need
to
for
better
focus
for
better
governance.
Etc.
C
A
D
Yeah.
That's
really
that's
really
good,
because,
even
if,
as
as
you
said,
Jay
looking
even
at
the
road
map
that
Max
have
put
together
the
advocacy
communication,
research
and
Port
leadership,
that
seems
to
be
something
that
would
fit
into
sort
of
like
a
bigger
Sig
and
then
yeah.
The
training
and
engagement
partnership
and
development
tend
to
kind
of
fit
into
the
education
right.
Yeah.
B
But
I
think
we've
touched
on
a
lot
of
issues
that
are
broader
than
just
teaching
people
some
skills,
and
you
know
having
a
real,
genuine
impact
on
people's
lives
and
careers.
So
I
think
I
would
love
to
try
to
help
get
us
moved
up
the
stack
so
to
speak
and
get
access
to
more
visibility,
more,
hopefully,
more
participants
that
have
maybe
not
an
educational
view
on
their
perspective,
but
people
that
want
to
help-
and
you
know,
Advocate
and
move
these
goals
forward.
A
Work
alone
is
Testament
to
that
meeting
for
this
sick
that
the
work
that
was
done
on
on
that
workbook
is
not
education.
The
work
that
was
done
on
that
workbook
is
is
a
is
a
comp.
Is
com
composition,
compiling
of
the
work
efforts
in
Deni
across
the
globe?
That's
not
just
that
this
they're
focusing
on
education,
but
but
the
the
the
Crux
of
it
isn't
just
educating
the
individuals.
A
The
Crux
of
it
is
there's
opportunity
for
you,
there's
a
pathway
for
you
and
each
one
of
these
organizations
are
trying
to
identify
partnership,
Pathways
they're,
using
the
education
to
say,
hey.
We
have
these
underrepresented
communities
that
are
capable
of
learning
the
stuff
that
are
capable
of
of
bringing
of
of
get
of
internalizing
the
effort.
That
is,
cyber
security.
That
is
coding
that
is
now
now
that
we
have
them.
Where
can
they
go
after
the
development
of
these
skills?
C
C
So
you're
strategically
centralizing
to
the
power
core
right.
Why?
Because
you
have
entities
underneath
us
to
move
to
execute
and
I,
think
that's
perfect
for
the
scope
of
this
that's
appropriate.
What
I'm
going
to
need
is
like
some
I
need,
like
a
written
idea
of
what
the
timeline
is
and
what
our
engagement
strategy
is
getting
towards
there,
because
I,
specifically,
there
is
a
Deni
work
group
in
cncf
we
can
State.
C
We
would
like
to
work
in
their
working
style,
we'd
like
to
work
with
their
statistics
and
citation
style
as
well,
and
the
other
thing
that
I
really
want
to
ensure-
and
this
is
why
I'm
trying
to
get
us
an
abstract
that
cinches
this
action
request.
We
should
not
be
doing
our
own
statistics.
We
should
be
asking
Linux
Foundation
to
be
improving
their
own
statistics.
C
A
So
cncf
has
a
group:
do
we
have
access
to
to
the
to
to
their
Charter,
to
to
some
I
mean
because,
where
Chrome
and
I
we're
in
the
Pro
we're
going
to
write
this
stuff
up,
I
am
not
in
the
business
of
recreating
any
Wheels.
If
they
have
something
that
works,
can
we
pull
that
and
consume
that
and
make
that
and,
like
you
know,
make
it
open
that
stuff?
A
C
B
Right
now
is
the
idea
is
semi
vaporware,
it's
just
you
know
Jay
and
I
chatting
talking
about
the
work
of
this
group,
but
how
important
it
is
and
I
threw
together
a
diagram
and
I've
shared
a
little
bit
here
and
there
with
some
folks,
and
our
next
step
is
to
start
to
create
that
proposal
to
make
a
new
working
group
here
would
be
the
pillars
and
they,
you
know,
there's
a
my
initial
focus
wasn't
particularly
on
this
subcommittee.
It
was
on
the
fact
that
there
is
a
ton
of
work,
duplication
across
the
foundation,
yeah.
B
We
have
five
groups
doing
personas
and
three
groups
doing
a
dictionary,
so
I
want
to
eliminate
that
and
streamline
that
effort,
but
then
again
talking
with
Jay
and
watching
this
committee
develop.
This
is
important
that
this
work
is
critical
and
I
think
it
helps
set
the
foundation
apart
so
I.
It
makes
sense
that
if
we're
going
to
have
some
type
of
centralized
structure
group
that
it
should
go
there
to
get
that
access
to
resources
that
broad
view
across
the
foundation,
so
yes
I
I,
it's
all
on.
B
Whoever
would
like
to
contribute
to
start
to
put
this
stuff
together
and
I
just
need
to
get
a
time
with
attack,
to
put
it
in
front
of
them
and
get
them
to
start
to
think
about
a
degree
and
I
think
that
the
getting
components
moved
out
of
other
working
groups
into
this
centralized
Authority
is
harder.
Work
I
think
saying
that
we
want
to
set
up
a
centralized
working
group
and
Deni
is
a
core
pillar
of
that
I.
Think
that's
a
slam!
Dunk
I,
don't
think
we'll
have
any
objections
to
that.
A
Every
meeting
every
meeting
we've
been
needing
needing
that
dough
in
that
dough.
Every
meeting
on
that
we're
getting
somebody
in
there's
still
some
stomach
rumbling,
but
needing
that,
though,
to
to
get
get
them
to
come
off
a
taxonomy
and
personas.
Oh
God,
give
me
started
on
personas,
but
the
need
in
that
the
need
in
that,
though,
yeah.
B
F
B
C
Gonna
yeah,
we
could
take
out
some
of
the
fluff
words
in
that,
but
yeah
I
think
that's
this,
but
I'd
like
to
I.
Think
in
this
case,
I
think
it's
it's
kind
of
a
separate
discussion
that
we
should
probably
have
before
our
next
meeting
time
here,
and
that
means
it
can
probably
be
on
the
stack
but
yeah
I
will
share
some
of
the
resources
around
the
way
that
cncf
has
done
a
good
blowout
of
the
E
and
I
in
a
way.
C
B
C
F
You
know
we.
We
could
not
write
a
mission
and
vision
statement
because
all
of
this
advocacy
work
and
communication
work-
and
you
know
everything
from
personas
and
taxonomies
to
you
know-
to
to
research
and
and
everything
else
is
all
the
stuff
that
goes
around
using
education
as
a
as
a
driver
for
change.
A
Well,
the
beauty
is
that
we
don't
have
to
necessarily
pause
because
Alpha
Omega
is
doing
their
is
doing
their
stuff
where
colleges
come
September.
So
there's
work
for
us
to
do
there,
especially
regarding
underrepresented
communities
that
are
going
to
be
involved
in
that
work,
so
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
pause.
A
Also,
you
know,
there's
comp
the
you
know
the
town
hall,
the
the
the
open
Summit,
oh
no
openness
of
surf
day,
there's
conversations
that
we're
having
regarding
the
education
piece
regarding
the
denip.
This
is
an
ad.
This
is
an
ad
I,
almost
say
an
ad
on
this.
Isn't
this
is
an
added
value.
The
value
prop
here
is
not
just
in
the
the
conversations
that
we're
going
to
have
Town,
Hall
openness
and
the
open
Summit.
Everything
like
that.
It's
now
become
a
situation
where
you
know
what
we
may,
while
we're.
A
Having
that
conversation
up
level
to
the
target,
the
target
is
the
larger
initiative
that
this
sits
under,
so
we
so
we've
added.
This
is
this:
is
value
prop
right,
we're
we're
we
we're
bringing
it,
as
you
said
max
right.
This
education
stuff
is
a
conduit
to
the
larger
objective,
which
is
open.
That's
the
steps
focus
on
Deni
period.
F
F
C
C
D
A
A
thing
that
largely
depends
on
how
largely
depends
on
how
far
we
can
progress
getting
that
proposal
getting
all
that
stuff
together
and
getting
it
from
the
attack
before
the
town
hall.
If
we,
if
we
can,
if
we
can
get
this
in
front
of
the
attack,
if
we,
if,
if
we
can
put
the
put
our
foot
on
the
gas,
then
the
conversation
that
we
have
can
start
out
education
and
then
expand
into
what
we
just
proposed
right
and-
and
you
know
we-
we
could
probably
probably
get
away
with
that.
Otherwise
we
stay.
A
C
C
So
this
basic
statement
that
this
may
need
signification
I-
think
that
this
should
be
externally
surfaced
as
an
idea.
I
think
there's
people
who
would
reasonably
engage
with
that.
I
also
think
that
it's
in
my
experience,
absolutely
reasonable
to
have
a
Sig
stood
up
inside
of
two
weeks.
I
have
had
to
do
whacamole
and
Sig
ideas
before
they're
easy
to
Institute,
but
it's
a
matter
of
getting
them
engaged
with
the
other
ziggs
and
making
them
valuable,
I.
Think
as
an
instance
of
having
that
true
centralization,
true
value
in
the
org
I.
C
Think
that
perspective
we're
gonna
be
able
to
demonstrate
that
it
really
well
here.
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
really
nice
valuable
proof
of
concept
where
in
front
of
it
we're
actually
leading
the
mission
in
a
way
that
cannot
be
removed.
Right
we've
put
the
institutional
power
behind
the
mission,
I'm
stoked
I.
A
Don't
know
about
the
Strategic
I,
don't
know
how
how
did
Nothing
Stops
us
from
meeting
at
a
community
level
because
I
believe
in
order
to
form
a
stick,
you
got
to
meet
at
least
three
times:
I
I!
Don't
there's
nothing
stopping
us
from
meeting
three
times!
Nothing
I
mean
we
can.
We
can
ask.
We
can
ask
for
a
meeting
slot
on
the
calendar.
We
can
put
that
before
Ops
he'll
give
us
a
slot.
They'll
give
us.
You
know
we
there's
nothing
preventing
us
from
doing
that.
A
D
A
Now
it's
a
conversation
of
where
does
that
sick
go
and
it
doesn't
go
under
the
tag
right
attack
is
not
going
to
be
a
supervisory
body
over
this
thing.
That's
part
of
the
reason
why
the
diagram
of
society
needs
to
move
somewhere
right,
so
we
so
strategically
we
we've
got.
We've
got
to.
We've
got
to
do
this
in
such
a
way
where
there's
no,
where
there
can
be
no
obstacle.
No,
you
know
argument
and
I'll
give
you
a
case
in
point.
A
I
had
this
conversation
internally,
I
I,
I,
won't
say
who
with
I
won't
say.
You
know
all
that
stuff,
but
the
question
was:
do
you
have
any
problem
making
a
request?
Do
you
have
any
problem
doing
anything?
Do
you
have
any
hold?
Ups
or
Hang-Ups
doing
anything
from
where
you're
at
right
now
in
the
open
ssf
and
my
answer
to
that
was
no
I
mean
we
can
request,
we
can
make
requests,
we
can
do
you
know
nothing,
stopping
us.
Well,
there's
there's
going
to
be
a
problem
with
the
buy-in.
A
It
needs
we're
in
a
corner
right,
but
so
and
so
I'm
and
So,
based
on
what
what
crop
and
I
did
I
feel
like
you
know
what
I
don't
want
I
hear
that
so
that
that's
the
case,
but
I
don't
have
a
problem
not
being
I've
been
I.
Haven't
been
walking
through
front
doors,
my
whole
life
I
have
no
problem
finding
a
crack
in
the
window
behind
some
behind
the
building
in
the
basement
and
busting
that
window
open
and
walking
in
there
I
have
no
problem
with
that.
A
This
is
my
version
of
find
a
crack
in
the
window.
The
crack
in
the
window
is
we.
We
may
need
to
do
one
while
we're
doing
the
other,
so
we
can
have.
We
could
stand
up
these
meetings
but
less
form
the
the.
If
the
working
group
that
all
the
stuff
goes
under
and
then
easier
to
to
stand
stuff
up,
underneath
that
once
it
once
it's
there,
that's
good!
That's
going
to
be
a
beast
unto
itself.
Why
do
we
need
another
working
group?
That's
going
to
be
the
question
that
gets
asked.
I
can
see
that
already.
B
B
That
is
a
lot
of
visibility
and
that's
the
appropriate
body
that
would
decide
do
we
need
a
new
working
group
or
not,
if
I,
if
we
had
our
work
like
if
we
had
the
the
vision
in
Mission
and
our
objectives
for
the
Sig
put
together,
that
makes
that
filing
that
issue
up
there
much
simpler,
because
I
can
State.
This
is
what
we
want
to
do
and
it
gives
somebody
a
chance
to
look
at
it
and
have
an
opinion,
and
you
know
actually
kind
of
something
tangible
they
can
consider.
B
So
if
we
can
get
that
information
put
together,
I
have
no
problems.
You
know
filing
the
information
and
I'm
working
on
the
side
in
my
spare
time
to
try
to
get
this
working
group
set
up
and
I'm
I'm
doing
my
due
diligence
talking
with
Tech
members
kind
of
sharing
the
idea
of
hey.
We
need
to
have
this
type
of
centralized
structure
and
the
the
denisig
is
a
critical
piece
of
that.
C
B
A
B
A
Don't
want
to
add
another
meeting
to
everybody's
okay.
We
just
had
oh
God
I,
want
to
add
another
meeting,
but
perhaps
there
could
be
a
working
a
working
session
on
this
I,
don't
I
to
to
take
I
think
this
requires
more
Minds
than
just
one
or
two
I
think
that
if
we
had
a
working
session
where
we
popped
the
dock
open,
we
blind
out
working
group.
This
sig
this
sig,
this
sig,
this
sig
whatever,
and
we
did
that
mission
and
vision
of
each
Sig
period
That's
the
session.
A
E
B
B
Agree
and
I
have
time:
I
can
donate
tomorrow
afternoon,
Thursday
morning
and
Thursday
afternoon,
and
then
most
of
the
day,
Friday
I
have
time
that
if
you
want
to
get
together
and
start
to
hammer
on
some
documentation
and
lay
out
exactly,
as
you
said,
this
is
kind
of
our
proposal.
It's
much
easier
to
have
to
walk
in
with
an
idea.
People
can
comment
on
a
blank
sheet
paper.
D
Yeah
so
since
we
got
just
about
a
minute
left,
we
can
kind
of
like
coordinate
the
times
of
a
slack
and
when
we're
going
to
do
this
working
session
and
I
know,
I
did
want
to
talk
about
what
we
want
to
go
into
the
town
hall.
That
can
wait
because
we
need
to
find
this
out
but
yeah.
This
has
been
a
great
session
and.
B
I
think
if
we
can't
get
like
the
working
group
and
the
Sig
stuff
hammered
out
in
time,
I
think
for
the
town
hall
you
hammer
on
like,
but
Max
said
that
education
is
the
conduit
to
empower
all
these
other
ideas.
These
other
activities,
that
are
you,
know,
critical
and
part
of
our
values
and
just
to
Showcase,
like
the
the
work
that
Nicole
did
look
at
all
these
organizations
and
there
is
a
many
communities
we
can
help
uplift
and
add
value
to
absolutely
yeah.
E
D
F
D
C
I'll,
take
this
up
that
actually
I
was
gonna,
perfect
timing.
What
I
really
want
from
you,
you
specifically
are
in
the
space
of
education
and,
in
some
degree
in
marketing
of
that
you've
got
more
experience
than
anybody
else
on
this
call
I.
Think
with
your
narrativization.
Can
you
write
on
to
the
agenda
here
or
into
the
slack
just
a
paragraph
Narrative
of
your
idea
of
the
Nick,
the
language
you
would
put
around
this
snapshot
in
time
that
snapshot
we're
either
going
to
use
at
our
entrance
to
why
we
have
a
signal
separately.