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C
A
C
C
C
C
B
Would
indeed
so,
as
is
a
I,
think,
a
good
idea.
We
encourage
people
to
comment
on
our
course
and
you
know
hey,
you
know
what
went
well.
What
didn't
well
do
didn't
go
well
and
so
on.
Lots
of
people
have
had
some
really
positive
feedback
about
the
fundamentals
course,
which
is
all
good.
B
However,
we
had
a
number
of
folks
say:
hey
those,
you
know
those
little
Story,
Time
sections
that
were
kind
of
interspersed
throughout
were
really
helpful.
They
really
appreciated
those
which
were
a
very,
very
small
portion
of
the
overall
course,
but
it's
basically
a
little
vignettes.
You
know
real
world.
Why
is
it
important
to
do
this?
B
I
have
posted
the
current
list
of
story
times
in
the
notes.
Some
of
them
are
I.
We
just
added
several.
So
that
includes
the
ones
we
we've
added.
So
this
is
a
bag
plead
whatever
you
want
for
suggestions,
ideas
for
other
key
stories.
What
we're
looking
for
is
real
world
examples,
preferably
ones
that
made
the
news
easy
to
explain
and
particularly
looking
for
ones
that
cover
a
vulnerability
not
already
covered
by
some
story.
B
So,
for
example,
you
know
SQL
injection
is
really
common,
but
we
didn't
have
a
story:
AT
Systems,
where
you
have
a
what
is
a
eight-figure
at
least
dollar
figure
penalty
for
not
dealing
with
it.
So
you
know
looking
I
mean
look
looking
for
stories
looking
for
ideas,
any
quick
thoughts
or
otherwise
I'm.
Just
going
to
beg
you
to
you,
know,
put
in
the
issues
and
and
go
from
here.
B
I,
don't
I
mean
there's
there,
aren't
that
many
stories
so
right
now,
so
it's
probably
eventually
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
that,
but
right
now,
probably
easier
just
to
propose
a
story,
it's
more
than
likely
something.
That's
not
already
covered
so
be
you
know,
so
we
already
have
type
of
squatting
covered.
We
already
have
SQL
injections,
so
you
can
see
the
list
if,
if
it's
not
obviously
more
or
less
exactly
the
same
kind
of
problem
just
propose
that
we
can
talk
about
it.
B
Eventually.
I
want
to
get
to
the
point
where
almost
everything's
covered,
and
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
that
point.
But
I
don't
know
if
we're
ready
for
that
yet
Rich
environment
for.
C
Sure
questions
or
comments
for
David
on
this
foreign.
C
Day,
job
probe
will
have
to
be
very
careful
about
examples
that
he
cites,
because
several
of
the
issues
here
are
close
customers
or
business
partners.
So
corporate
probe
has
to
be
very
careful
open
source
Crow
will
do
his
best
to
find
some
good
examples,
but
I
I
will
not
be
highlighting
any
business
partners.
Follies.
B
B
Well,
you
know
what
I
already
have
apple
go
to
fail,
go
to
fail
as
one
of
these
Story
Time
examples,
but
if
you've
got
others,
that's
good.
You
know
I
I,
think.
B
From
all
liabilities
and
Wrongs,
nothing.
B
And
all
like,
for
example,
the
Heartland
payment
system,
I
mean
that
was
incredibly
painful,
money-wise
and
then
it
stopped
their
business
for
weeks,
but
I,
don't
actually
I,
think
there's
actually
a
positive
side.
Yes,
they
made
it
terrible
and
they
made
some
bad
decisions.
Some
some
mistakes.
It
really
hurt
them,
but
they
didn't
that's
not
where
the
story
ends.
They
did
turn
around
and
they
did
make
a
lot
of
really
substantive
changes.
C
E
I
think
some
of
us
will
just
be
more
careful
than
others.
I
think
we
could
take
all
of
these
and
approach
NBC
and
make
a
really
compelling
Dateline
episode
out
of
it,
especially,
would
be
great
if
we
could
get
the
actor
from
Barry
from
SNL
to
put
on
a
gray-haired
wig
and
do
his.
E
Impersonation
of
the
older
Dateline
reporter,
who
has
that
unique
phrasing
that
really
makes
it
compelling.
C
And
then
you
talk
with
your
second
bullet
point
David
about
some
videos.
B
Yeah,
basically,
one
of
the
comments
feedback
because,
hey
you
know
it's
just
it's
a
lot
of
text
and
images.
They
wanted
to
break
it
up
now.
B
I
think
some
of
you
have
already
heard,
but
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
this
was
malice
a
forethought
when
I
first
originally
proposed
this
I,
originally
thought
of
doing
all
video
and
the
training.
Folks,
basically
said
you
know,
we
can
do
that,
don't
because
it's
incredibly
hard
to
update
videos-
and
this
is
the
fun
and-
and
you
know
what
after
looking
at
it,
I,
actually
see
the
wisdom
of
it.
This
is
the
problem
that
safecoat
has
safe
code.
Has
some
really
awesome
material?
That's
not
aging!
B
Well,
it's
too
hard
to
do
a
group
modification.
It's
too
hard
to
do
an
update,
but
I
do
understand
the
desire
to
just
you
know,
mix
it
up.
So
it's
not
just
a
Sit
read
a
book,
so
my
current
plan
is
to
slip
in
little
video
intros
throughout
the
course
and
here's
what
you're
going
to
learn
with
things-
and
you
know,
broad
topics
that
won't
change
over
time.
B
I
don't
expect,
and
that
way
we
have,
that
variety
of
experienced
by
the
Learners
without
the
inability
to
update,
which
is
a
problem
that
other
folks
have
had.
Somebody
has
a
better
idea,
I'm
all
for
it,
but
it
seems
it.
It
seems
like
the
way
to
to
win.
Through
this
end
goal
there
I
I
more
to
come
once
I
figure
out
what
that
is
comments.
C
I'm
glad
to
help
participate,
the
education
Sig
might
be
funding
a
podcast,
or
we
might
have
some
graphics
and
whatnot
that
we
might
be
able
to
leverage
for
this
to
record
some
short
little
videos
so
I'm
all
for
it
glad
to
help
I'll
get
my
green
screen
out.
B
Was
audio
considered
I
mean
it's
possible
to
have
someone
read.
Of
course,
we've
opt
for
accessibility.
We
make
sure
that
it's
possible
to
use
a
screen
reader.
So
from
that
perspective,
we've
already
got
that
kind
of
audio
covered.
B
A
So
I'm
not
I'm,
not
sure
what
we
want
to
share
with
the
group
yet
but
Glenn's
on
his
way.
So
he'll
be
joining
shortly,
and
maybe
he
has
a
better
organization
of
what
he
wants
to
share
of
SKF
okey-doke.
C
D
Sure
so,
as
everyone
knows,
we're
still
asking
people
to
put
information
into
the
spreadsheet
for
any
appropriate
training
trying
to
find
as
many
sources
as
we
can.
So
we
can
start
doing
stuff
with
them,
but
the
most
urgent
ask
of
everyone
is
that
we
need
to
get
the
plan
done
by
the
end
of
this
month
and
I've
asked
everyone
who's.
D
Looking
at
the
session,
one
section,
one
curate
content
section
to
be:
have
all
the
updates
suggestions:
feedback
whatever
in
a
PR
by
end
of
day
tomorrow
and
after
that,
Chrome
and
I
are
going
to
go
through
and
do
the
needful
fill
in
any
gaps
address
those
PR's.
We
need
to
go
back
to
the
team
with
anything
we
will
do
so
via
email
or
over
slack,
but
I
think
they've
got
most
of
the
core
information
available.
There's
still
part
of
some
details
outstanding,
but
yeah
that
that's
the
schedule,
that's
what
we're
asking
folks
to
do.
D
C
So
we
do
have
a
slight
complication.
There
was
a
Boggle
with
some
settings
in
our
repo
that
has
altered
some
permissions
and
some
files,
so
we're
looking
to
get
that
corrected
very
soon.
So
if
you
could
perhaps
if
anyone
wants
to
provide
feedback,
if
you
want
to
wait
an
hour
or
two
for
that
to
get
corrected
and
get
the
repo
up
to
the
latest
version,
that
would
be
awesome
so
later
today
would
be
great
if
you
could
start
your
feedback.
D
Robots
are
rebelling
the
ones
and
zeros
are
all
jacked
up
so
yeah.
Thanks
for
that
heads
up,
Grove
appreciate
it.
A
C
All
right
did
Glenn
show
up
Randall.
You
wanna
talk
about
your
PR
there
for.
A
A
second
yeah,
so
we've
been
working
on
our
changes.
Our
final
changes
are
on
44.
A
yeah,
and
there
was
one
thing
that
we
have
yet
to
decide
on,
but
I
think
that
might
be
like
a
group
thing
that
when
the
education
Sig
meets
back
up,
we
could
talk
about,
but
other
than
that
I
think
everything
is
final.
Everything
that's
in
44
is
pretty
much
final.
C
Any
questions
for
Dave
or
Randall
slash
Glenn.
B
Yeah
have
have
we
added
the
management
and
some
of
the
other
things
yet
or
is
that
still
too
is
still
pending.
B
No,
no,
not
an
SKF,
yeah
I'm,
actually
thinking
education,
the
education
sync
to.
C
D
B
That's
part
of
training
of
managers.
You
know
training
of
managers
hey.
This
is
what
you
should
expect
the
developers
you
manage
to
know,
and
this
is
why
you
should
care-
and
these
are
the
kinds
of
tools
and
pipelines.
You'll
need
to
make
sure
you
can
support
and
maybe
fund,
because
I
think
the
section
two
so
far
has
only
really
been
what
the
SKF
folks
want
to
add
in
detail
for
the
software
developers,
but
not
the
management
training,
not
the
K-12
training.
That's.
B
C
The
future
there
are
no,
there
are
no
groups,
it's
all
one
group,
okay,
so
it
doesn't
matter
precisely
where
it
lives.
In
the
plan.
Okay,
fair.
We
just
kind
of
shuffled
it
around
to
help
Focus.
B
C
Forgotten:
okay,
it's
still
in
scope;
it
might
not
be
as
fleshed
out
as
we'd
like
it
to
be,
and
that's
why
once
we
get
our
repo
fixed
and
up
to
date,
we
should
be
able
to
see
where
there
are
gaps.
You
can
provide
that
additional
feedback.
It's.
D
B
A
C
C
She
had
an
update
to
her
Section,
which
again
we
can't
commit
right
now.
We
hope
to
get
that
corrected
to
kind
of
see
where
things
are,
but
she
was
very
close
to
having
section
three
done
to
talk
about
the
plan.
As
David
mentioned,
my
desire
is
to
have
all
updates
to
the
plan
done
by
November
30th
and
then
give
this
working
group
and
the
Sig
two
weeks
to
comment
to
actually
look
at
the
whole
plan.
C
C
But
the
idea
is
to
have
the
plan
to
this
working
group
and
the
Sig
for
comment
official.
You
know
two
weeks
and
then
we
will
pass
that
officially
over
to
the
TAC
and
ultimately,
the
governing
board
for
funding
consideration
and
to
show
you
how
we
are
organizing
the
plan
a
little
bit.
How
that
it
will
be
executed.
C
C
C
C
Illustrate
how
all
this
information
will
come
together?
So
if
you
take
a
look
at
that
very
quickly,
this
is
a
super
rough
draft,
but
basically
taking
the
different
personas
and
trying
to
find
where
there's
overlap
or
connection
between
them.
So
that's
not
done.
I
just
started
that
monkeying
around
with
that.
So
if
you
have
suggestions
on
how
we
might
be
able
to
show
where
there's
overlap
between
the
different
personas
to
help
streamline
the
actual
content,
execution
that'd
be
great.
C
So
now
circling
back
to
your
question
about
manager,
training
and
primary
secondary
education.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
about
that
or
kind
of
the
ultimate
plan
for
the
the
education
Sig
plan?.
C
C
If
anyone
has
any
suggestions
on
ways
to
help
illustrate
parts
of
the
plan,
that
would
be
extremely
helpful.
I
would
like
to
get
that
in
because,
like
when
we
pass
this
to
the
governing
board
you're
thinking
about
like
a
vice
president
or
technical
executive,
they
might
not
have
as
much
context
around
education.
So
if
we
had
any
illustrative
diagrams
that
might
be
helpful
to
share
with
them
to
kind
of
help
Hammer
home.
Some
of
our
points
so
be
thinking
about
that.
C
C
Do
we
have
any
opens
that
we
wanted
to
talk
about
any
other
business
you
wanted
to
discuss
today.
C
E
D
C
A
C
E
C
C
Got
some
time
I
have
about
35
minutes,
okay,.