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A
Wonder
if
we're
going
to
get
any
of
the
nashua
would
be
very
interested
to
go
over
the
Ruby
for
stuff
with
you
with
the
rails.
For
sir
I,
don't
know
how
interesting
the
rail
for
stuff
is.
I
mean
it
just
brings
us
a
fair
number
of
speed
and
stability
benefits
from
being
based
on
a
more
modern
core
framework.
But
you
know
most
of
what
I
did
for
rails,
for
was
just
a
bunch
of
niggling
little
fix-ups
for
things
that
weren't
really.
A
Maybe
in
their
practice,
power
didn't
affect.
How
were
articulating
revalidation
gives
us
the
ability
to
move
it
around
like
from
your
outside
the
model
into
the
controller
or
something
but
their
armors
days,
yeah.
That
was
the
main
thing,
but
from
that
was
anything
from
a
programmers
perspective,
but
from
a
did
user
perspective
that
didn't
really
change
much
right,
oh
sure
sure
I
mean
it
kind
of
helped,
lay
the
groundwork
for
the
crap
that
I
stuff
that's
up
for
the
attribute
stuff.
A
That
could
be
crowbar
trip
stuff
that
a
good
last
week
and
I
found
out
that
with
rails
for
production
motives
actually
fully
multi-threaded.
Now,
instead
of
being
serialised
access
me
to
the
API
in
the
UI,
that's
nice,
which
is
exposed
to
couple
of
deadlocks.
That
I
now
need
to
go
and
fix
up,
which
will
probably
change
how
we
knowed
creation,
which
will
make
your
life
easier
for
doing,
for
getting
hinting
on
the
admin
just
for
the
docker
containers.
A
A
And
something
there
that
we
don't
necessarily
know
what
we're
getting
at
and
then
we
haven't
really
thought
through
the
classifications
of
the
different
workload
containers,
whether
they're,
hardware,
vm
or
container,
and
sort
of
have
at
least
a
loosely
defined
system
well
participating
the
requirements
for
you
know
the
difference.
You
like
the
change
that
I
have
in
mind
because
it
completely
gets
rid
of
IP
hinting
altogether
yay
yeah
I'm.
Instead,
when
you
create
a
node.
A
Tell
crowbar
how
to
respond
to
them
differently.
What
I
like
to
I
like
surfacing
the
primitives
that
way
but
I'd?
Also
I,
don't
want
to
lose
the
convenience
that
you
get
by
total
discovery,
no
bite
so
like
maybe
like
an
API
call,
which
would
be
something
like
her
vision,
container
and.
A
A
Well,
the
difference
being
of
vm
in
a
container
is
vast,
because.
A
Containers
I,
don't
care
about
I,
don't
care
about
vast
theoretical
differences,
I
care
about
what
is
the
difference
in
terms
of
what
node
will
get
bound
to
them
to
the
freshly
created
node
with
what
settings?
That's
what
I
want
the
answer
in
terms
of
right,
so
I
mean
the
easy
obvious
answers
are
well.
You
know,
we've
got
no
bios
and
we
may
not
even
have
ssh.
A
A
That's
perfectly
legitimate
and
might
save
us
a
lot
of
processing
time
and
a
lot
of
complexity
on
each
of
the
container
node
by
not
imposing
it
to
take
on
them
right.
But
what
I'm
saying
is
I,
don't
want
the
API
to
expose
things
like
provision.
Physical,
no
provision,
vm
and
provision
container
I
want
the
API
to
expose
primitives
with
useful
defaults
for
each
of
those
settings
for
each
of
those
types
cool.
Oh
yes,
okay,.
A
A
It
would
definitely
be
a
container
jig
and
the
container
Jake
could
even
have
two
modes
like
an
SSH
mode
and
a
standard
intended
out
mode.
It
guess!
Well,
if
the
container
is
using
SSH,
then
we
can
give
you
the
script
jig
for
whatever
you
need.
Yeah
no
need
to
reinvent
the
wheel
there,
but
managing
the
estate
again
standard
out
that
will
that
be
a
little
bit
trickier,
mostly
because
we
have
to
re-implement
parts
of
expect
to
make
it
work.
A
A
Yes,
no,
but
have
to
have
something
dedicated
due
to
the
way
doctor
works.
If
standard
in
and
stand
it
out,
go
away
the
containers
you
so
yeah.
If
they
go
away,
the
container
is
considered
dead,
yep
yeah,
a
heartbeat
would
have
to
be
established.
You
know
just
I,
don't
know
hitting
entering
waiting
for
your
PS,
you
know
or
now
heart
now,
I,
don't
think
we
need
a
heartbeat
to
start
with.
If
standard
in
and
standard
out
are
still
open,
then
the
containers
still
alive.
A
A
Oh
not
because
I
mean
how
the
host
node
depends
on
when
it
up
and
mowed
the
posting.
The
containers
of
also
managed
by
pearl
bar
right,
I
think
for
standard
in
send
it
out
unless
you're
connecting
through
I.
Don't
know,
uucp
I
mean
that's.
How
would
we
eat
connect
to
the
standard
nest,
evidence
that
it
out
over
the
net
over
45
h,
plus
T
mux,
with
h,
plus
screen?
A
A
That's
what
screen
and
team
us
would
take
would
manage
for
ya.
Give
us
a
lot
of
work.
I
don't
want
to
implement
what
they
do.
No,
but
again
that
assumes
that
we're
using
crowbar
to
a
managed
the
host
node.
A
A
But
if
Cora
was
really
a
pretty
requisite
sure
the
docker
community
would
prefer
core
OS
host
OS,
but
doesn't
have
to
be
right.
That's
why
I
said
it's
that's
why
I
said
that
is
the
way
that
I
would
prefer
to
go
right,
but
what
I
out
of
my
ignorance,
what
is
Cora
with
giving
soccer
that,
like
that
upon
do
or
that
box
wouldn't
other
than
being
it's
super
likeness.
A
That's
basically,
it
yeah
super
lightness
built
in
FTD
support.
It
already
knows
how
to
run
docker
containers
in
the
background
and
all
the
other
crap,
probably
that
matter
we
could
do
that
that
as
well
as
just
an
reattaching
to
them
and
reattaching
them
via
tat
and
detaching
to
them
is
a
little
trickier.
A
A
A
So
we
all-
we
are
already
you
know
by
by
considering
looking
at
deploying
workload
containers
trying
to
get
in
their
business.
A
I
said
it'd
be
my
preferred
way
to
do
it
I
didn't
say,
be
the
only
way
we'd
have
to
do
it
right.
That's
where
a
number
there
are
a
number
of
ways
that
we
could
do
it,
but
Annie,
but
you
know
in
the
name
of
actually
making
progress.
I
would
just
have
to
pick
whichever
one
seems
to
be
the
simplest
to
initially
implement
and
go
with
it.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
And
the
deploy
process
is
the
old
drop,
an
image?
No,
but
well
now
we've
never
dropped
an
image.
Oh
no.
Let's
drop
in
income
yeah
the
full
install
yeah,
both
driven,
install
Kickstarter,
the
Kickstarter,
the
they're,
proceeding
or
whatever.
A
A
A
We're
just
happily
continuing
on
with
what
we've
got.
Okay
I
was
kind
of
looking
forward
to
a
crowbar
too,
so
that
we
can
get
rid
of
all
the
timing
issues.
We
have
oh
yeah
that
stuff
definitely
address
what
osm
itself
is
just
up
in
the
air
and
kind
of
not
for
discussion.
Yet.
A
A
And
all
making
sure
that
updates
the
hostname
happened
in
all
the
places
that
it
needs
to
happen
and
I
haven't,
think
I'm
going
to
have
to
end
this
boy,
we're
all
that
is,
but
we're
all.
That
means
we're
all
that
stuff
should
live
well.
This
would
be
not
like
I
wasn't
expecting
it
to
happen
later
on
after
the
install,
but
this
would
be
like
I
boot
up
the
node.
It
shows
its
MAC
address.
You
change
its
name
at
that
point,
and
then
you
do
the
install
you
know
like
bulk,
edit
and
then
allocate
and
then.
A
A
Before
I
get
a
little
bit,
if
we
allow
it
only
then,
but
it
still
I
haven't
done
what
I
haven't
audited
the
framework
to
make
sure
that
I
can
safely
do
that,
mostly
because,
just
by
adding
a
mostly
because
we,
a
long
time
ago,
we'd
be
added
in
DNS
the
ability
to
change
the
you
know
to
add
arbitrary
aliases
for
things,
and
you
know
we
and
if
it
wasn't
going
to
resolve
them
that
way,
and
it's
worked
well
enough.
I
think
the
main
reason
am
I.
A
Correct
them
understand,
with
the
main
reason
for
actually
changing
the
a
record
and
venus
is
a
clot
hiring
manager
being
a
little
stupid.
Well,
it's
not
just
Cloudera
manager.
It's
you
know,
usability
the
let's
say
a
customer
has
three
sets
of
machines
and
he
wants
to
give
them
name
so
that
you
can
easily
associate
them
and
he
has
an
issue
with
a
machine.
He
goes
logs
into
the
name.
He
doesn't
have
to
go,
look
up.
What's
its
actual
name
or
anything
like
that,
he
sets
up
scripts
using
his
naming
scheme.
A
A
A
A
A
It's
not
a
huge
issue.
It's
just
you
know
usability
question
I
mean
the
reason
that
that
doesn't
happen.
Right
now
is
that,
in
order
for
crowbar
to
do
anything
with
an
object,
you
have
to
create
a
venturi
in
the
database
for
it,
and
then
interest
have
to
have
a
name,
and
once
that
name
is
you
and
once
that
name
is
established,
it's
used
in
a
bunch
of
different
places.
A
Other
words
forget
about
an
entry.
I
thought
a
functionality
kind
of
like
that
for
handling
notre
placements,
but
it's
there's
a
fair
amount
of
exploratory
coding
to
make
that
work
so
to
explored
the
problem
space
that
has
to
happen.
Okay,
so
I
mean
one
of
the
things
crowbar
open.
So
we
need
to
be
able
to
handle.
Is
you
know
you
know,
node
X
burst
into
flames
and
I
have
to
replace
it
with
some
other
node
drawn
from
a
pool
of
fares
from
wherever.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Interesting
to
you
jelly
because
I'd
love
to
love
the
horse
Victor
to
drag
us
through
some
API
driven,
attribute
changes
and
how
they
might
gains
a
running
system.
Sure
I
can
watch
that.
That
would
be
very
interesting.
Like
I
said,
I'm
I
know,
20
has
been
out
there.
I
just
have
been
able
to
spend
much
time
on
it
lately,
yeah!
That's
why
I
was
joining
in.
Oh,
yes,.
A
A
A
A
I'm
starting
to
think
that
winter
will
never
end
it
doesn't.
This
is
the
new
you
know.
Kate
said
climate
change
forget
that
global
warming
stuff
yeah
planet
house
chain.
This
is
it
okay
war
we're
dead.
Some
people
get
warmer
a
look
at
colder,
yeah
I
mean
ironically
enough,
it
seems
like
a
large
portion
of
the
colder
weather
we've
been
experiencing
is
because
the
Arctic
has
heated
up
which
made
the
Jets
would
we
have
made
the
jet
stream
more
waddly
inventor,
which
pulled
down
masses
of
cold
to
us
error
from
the
Arctic
mm-hmm?
A
A
A
A
A
So
you're
using
well
I'm
using
the
attribute
api
via
the
CLI
in
production
SH.
Now
I'm
using
it
specifically
to
if
there's
an
HTTP
proxy
in
the
environment
variables,
I'm
going
to
tell
the
provisioners
that
it
should
use.
It
is
this
upstream
proxy
instead
of
having
to
rewrite
the
entire
world
templates
night
and
I'm
doing
the
same
thing
for
what
our
default
operating
system
is
to
set
that
to
scintilla
at
65.
Instead
of
rewriting
the
whole
template,
I'm
just
saying
update
this
specific
attribute.
A
A
This
is
so
awesome.
We
can
write
it
so
much
great
stuff
on
top
of
this
yeah.
All
you
need
to
do
is
you
know,
provide
a
schema
and
well
I
haven't
implemented,
but
also
potentially,
the
US
provide
a
qualified
cinema
fragment
so
that
we
can
do
syntax
from
stretcher
and
structure
validation
for
attributes
and
then
also
optionally,
provide
a
validation
function
so
that
we
can
do
semantic
validation
of
the
attribute
were
going
to
use
the
you
were
looking
at
the
qualified
sama
to
do
that,
so
I
am
using
qualify
for
that
guest.
A
A
A
And
every
time
you
write
to
it,
it
validates
against
that
scheme.
Let's
make
sure
that
you
passed
it
something
Ron
Wood
says,
welcome
and
the
way
it's
set
up
right
now
is
attributes
are
read
only
via
the
API
and
once
they
have
a
schema,
in
which
case
they
are
also
writable,
if
you're
in
as
if
it
would
otherwise
be
writable
like
if
you're
writing
an
action
on
a
deployment
roll,
that's
part
of
aid,
that's
part
of
the
snapshot
does
in
that
hasn't
that's
been
proposed,
but
not
committed,
and
so
on.
A
Okay,
I'll
see
how
far
along
we
are
I
have
a
lame,
though
I
have
a
lane
little
niggle
that
you're
only
allowing
non
secure,
HTTP
connections.
So
probably
yes,
yes,
I
haven't
encountered
proxy
yet
that.
A
A
Like
in
all,
the
HTTPS
proxies,
even
though
we're
proxying
HTTPS
connection
and
the
very
first
things
that
the
app
is
going
to
do
once
it
connects,
are
the
proxy
is
to
connect
to
some
other
stuff,
and
at
that
point
it
becomes
an
opaque
bit
stream.
The
little
hands
tape
is
still
done
over
an
unencrypted
connection,
even
even
inside
of
Dell.
That's
the
way
it
works.
A
Using
the
admin
may
people
are
using
the
attributes.
Ap
is
I'm,
going
to
call
the
new
Green.
Let's
say
something:
does
it
say
something
when
you
hover
hover
over
the
green
dot
yeah,
it
just
says
the
name
of
the
role,
so
the
name
of
an
oil
or
the
the
wall,
part
of
the
node
roll.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
No,
don't
tell
them
too
late,
they're
dead
and
those
with
the
container
you
brute
I'm,
a
mean
guy.
What
can
I
say?
Yeah
I
mean
that's
pretty
much.
It
is
for
manipulating
attributes
of
via
the
API
lottie's,
using
around
with
JSON
and
having
to
actually
know
or
care
about
the
JSON
that
we
wrap.
All
of
them
me
attributes
into.
A
A
A
A
Normalizing
to
how
we
create
and
maintain
the
role
draft,
but
instead
of
the
ad
hoc
half-assed
logic
that,
with
their
occasional
toss,
things
to
take
away
too
much
time
whenever
we
were
fighting
mode,
finding
a
bunch
of
notes
to
roll,
we
can
calculate
and
resolve
as
much
of
the
dependencies
in
advance.
We
can
and
we
resolve
them
every
time
we
create
a
new,
a
new
dependency
or
a
new
role,
and
that
would
have
some
got
rid
of
the
special
case
and
there
was
handling
client
roles
for
jig
and.
A
A
A
A
Sometimes
I
wonder
if
he
tests
I
have
no
idea,
you
yeah
I've,
already
merged
it.
Oh.