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A
All
right
welcome
everybody
to
our
first
working
group
session,
we're
here
at
a
polarino
headquarters
in
burlington,
with
our
first
working
group
to
begin
workshopping
a
degree
in
sustainability
which
will
be
a
multi-dimensional
take
on
that
word.
People
may
think
of
one
way
or
another,
but
we're
gonna
sort
of
broadcast
all
the
points
of
academia
and
thought
that
it
can
touch
I'm
going
to
go
around.
We
want
to
get
closer.
Okay,
we
can
all
introduce
ourselves.
This
is
dan,
I'm
speaking
dan
kirk,
director
of
operations
and
faculty
support.
B
Michael
abrams,
a
an
instructor
future
instructor.
A
And
mike
will
be
sort
of
leading
the
workshop
on
the
degree
proposal,
as
this
is
sort
of
his
brainchild.
A
So
we've
taken
the
degree
program
proposal
points
that
rob
created
on
the
wiki
and
created
a
separate
sustainability
degree
program,
page
that
we'll
use
sort
of,
as
our
you
know,
our
slate
that
we're
gonna
build
our
materials
through.
So
I
guess
I'll
turn
it
over
to
michael
here
and
we'll
sort
of
work
through
rob's
bullets.
A
We'll
update,
as
you
can
see
on
the
screen
that
we're
sharing
is,
is
a
wiki
space.
Much
like
anybody
in
the
world
who
wants
an
account
and
signs
up
to
join
our
wiki
can
do
and
we'll
start
drafting
it
to
sort
of
create
an
iterative
and
example
process
of
how
one
might
go
about
you
know
proposing
a
degree
or
certificate
program.
A
A
So
our
first
point
you
know,
as
with
any
proposal
we
start
with
introducing
it
it's
a
polite
thing
to
do
so.
Yeah
michael,
go
ahead.
A
C
Up
when
are
you
talking
about
sustainability,
so
the
basic
definition
is,
you
know
the
ability
of
a
system
to
remain
in
you
know
in
homeostasis,
or
I.
C
B
It
had
I
mean
that's
the
most
obvious
sign
that
the
system
that
the
current
global
system
isn't
sustainable,
that
the
biosphere
is
collapsing
as
we
speak,
but
it
has
other
aspects,
the
social
and
economic
aspects
that
societies
are
becoming
more
and
more
fragmented
and
gaping
income
inequality.
A
Okay,
so
the
justification
for
the
program
sustainability.
I
think
that's
a
good
lead-in
in
that
it
is
the
critical
all-encompassing
issue
of
our
time.
What
is
the
impetus
to
teach
that
to
folks
who
want
to
learn,
and
then
I
guess
why
is
it
important
that
students
learn
multiple
facets
of
how
we're
defining
sustainability.
C
B
A
C
C
Okay,
that's
great,
hey
and
just
remember
all
those
out
here
who
see
this
later
on
is
that,
although
the
three
of
us
are
in
the
same
room,
this
conversation
could
happen
over
google
hangouts
and
sharing
the
wiki
too
or
skype
or
whatever.
So
let
me
just
go
to
the
sustainability
degree
program.
Give
me
just
one
second.
B
C
C
So
I'm
actually
going
to
just
for.
C
So
we
don't
get
busted
for
plagiarism.
Okay,
I'm
going
to
create
a
little
link
to
the
parentheses
to
the
source
of
this.
Actually
wait
just
give
me
a
second.
I
will
do
the
link.
A
I
think
stating
I
mean
I
I
agree
completely.
Sustainability
is
the
critical
encompassing
issue.
It
creates
a
context
for
decision
making
across
our
disciplines.
A
I
think
those
are
those
are
objective
ways
to
describe
sustainability,
but
I
think
when,
when
proposing
a
degree
program,
we
really
need
to
emphasize
why
I
could
these
do
it
too,
but
I
guess
I'm
looking
a
little
bit
more
for
you
know
what.
B
A
Do
students
need
this
or
why
does
it
need
to
be
a
bit
not?
Why
do
they
need
it?
Why
is
it
going
to
be
available
to
students
in
the
academic
sense,
I
guess
also
in
the
in
the
global
sense
other
than
you
know,
because
we
could
say
that
some
people
might
say
that
about
economics?
C
C
So
what
I
placed
in
there
was
a
letter
I
wrote
15
years
ago
from
the
vermont
commons
school
school.
B
C
Started
and
it's
about
sort
of
it,
discusses
the.
B
C
Of
sustainability,
meaning
that
hey
we
live
in
this
time
of
rapidly
changing
pieces,
I
mean
it
says
we
must
prepare
our
children
to
understand
and
shape
their
roles.
Okay,
you
gotta
change
children
which
I
can
do,
but
you
know
we're
talking
about
sustainability,
being
understanding
the
relationship
between
the
individual,
the
local
community,
the
local
community,
the
global
within
the
context
of
human
civilization
in
the
natural
world.
Okay,
we've
got
to
understand.
B
C
People
to
understand
their
role
within
that
context,
and
that's
really
really
important.
So
let
me
just
finish
I'll
make
one
other
change
prepare
engaged
citizens,
but
you
know
the
great
thing
about
the
wiki.
Is
you
know
it's
kind
of?
We
can
start
the
process
of
writing
it
down
and
you
can
change
it
later
on,
and
so
that
underlying
link
is
to
the
where
I
took
it
from
the
founders
letter.
So
that
again
we.
A
So
yeah
that's!
This
is
a
perfect
example
of
collaborating.
You
know
with
two
potential
faculty
members
for
a
proposal
bringing
together
two
angles
of
thought:
to
kind
of
create
the
direction
or
perhaps
justification
of
the
program.
I
think
that's
a
good
starter,
yeah
and
again
that's
what
that's
the
beautiful
part
about
the
wiki.
Is
it
sits?
You
have
time
to
think
on
it.
You
come
back.
A
You
tinker
you
move
on,
so
what
we
can
move
on
to
potential
classes,
and
this
should
also
just
be
a,
I
think,
a
brainstorm,
and
you
know
we'll
start.
I
like
rob,
you
would
know
too,
but
with
a
program
you're
going
to
want
essentially
third
year
equivalent
and
fourth
year
equivalent
or
maybe
we
can
view
it
in
the
60
to
90
credits
and
then
90
to
120
credit
student
range,
because
most
of
the
first
60
are
going
to
be
interspersed
with
general
ed
and
maybe
a
few
degree
courses.
C
Now,
in
the
presentation
I
made
earlier,
we
talked
about
how
hey
start
off
by
listing
the
skills.
Okay,
so
what
we
can
do
is
you
know
what
what
are
the
list
of
skills
that
you
need,
that
you
need
to
sort
of
understand
sustainability?
A
C
And
whoever
is
whoever's
making
the
comments.
The
great
thing
about
sort
of
the
wiki
is
just
look.
You
know
make
sure
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
make
sure
that
we
save
any
changes
we
make,
but
what
it'll
allow
you
to
do
is
to
you
can
edit
in
things
right
now,
there's
also
on
the
side.
C
Piece
of
being
able
to,
if
you
go
on
to
view
revisions.
C
You
can
view
it,
but
there's
also
I'm
going
to
make
sure
that
we've
got
the
discussion
tabs,
so
you
keep
working.
Let
me
make
sure
that
I've
got
the
discussion
available.
A
So
why
don't
we
jump
in
well
rob's
doing
that
we
can
jump
into
start.
You
know
across
a
what
what
traditionally
would
be
viewed
as
a
junior
or
maybe
a
second
semester,
sophomore
intro
higher
level
intro
to
sustainability
courses.
C
No,
I
think,
yeah
I
mean
remember.
C
C
Someone
said
war
maiden
is
saying,
having
trouble
getting.
C
Red
hat
is
on
it,
so
you
know
the
one
problem
that
we've
got
in
terms
of
wikis
is
that
again,
probably
only
one
person
will
be
editing
at
the
same
time,
not.
C
A
A
Studies
and
then
you
know
you
were
talking
a
little
bit
before
we
started
the
broadcast
on
economic
versions.
There's
probably
anthro
angle.
We
could
go
soch
angles.
A
A
A
Cool
now
we'll
go
back,
so
we
don't
have
to
say
it.
Maybe
we'll
save
it
after
every
section,
it'll
be
easier
to
flow
through.
Would
you
do
a
business
course?
A
Would
you
do
a
global
change
in
race
relations
or
global
change
in
sort
of
income,
how
it
affects
distribution
of
income,
or
would
you
stick
maybe
to
go
into
a
higher
level.
B
A
A
B
A
A
So
you
know
folks
are
interested.
They
can
come
and
look
at
the
course.
Let's
say:
oh
I'm
going
to
teach
that
okay.
C
Colleen
right
now
I
changed.
She
said
economics
of
sustainability,
economics
of
poverty,
international
food
ways.
C
Now
I've
changed
the
settings
on
the
entire
wiki.
So
there's
going
to
be
a
discussion
tab
on
every
page.
C
So,
in
other
words,
if
you've
got
something
that
you
can't
necessarily
comment
on
right
now
in
terms
of
editing,
the
wiki
throw
it
into
the
discussion
tabs
and
we'll
get
all
of
those.
A
And
I
would
even
I
would
say,
do
intro
to
ecological
economics
rob
and
I
took
a
course:
carbon
neutral
economies
yup,
and
that
was
there.
That
was
a
workshop
style
yep
for
a
higher.
We
were
in
grad
school,
so
we
were
able
to
more
workshop
ideas.
Having
learned
the
basic.
C
Course
now
I
am.
I
really
think
that
if
you're
going
to
talk
about
sustainability,
you
have
to
understand
system
dynamics,
you
have
to
know
computer
model
yep
so
really
introduction
to
system
time
yeah,
but
yeah
introduction
to
system
science.
But
I
really
think
you
know
I
mean
system
dynamics,
I've
been
working.
You
know
I've
tried
to
get
some
people
on
creating
courses
in
system
dynamics,
because
it's
a
really
great
great
tool
for
layman
to
start
dealing
with
the
subject
of
sustainability
and
conflict
systems
and
so
yeah.
C
I
can
see
that
being
a
whole
another.
You
know
discipline
or
degree
program,
which
would
be,
which
would
be
great.
C
Oh
oh
colleen's
gonna
join
us,
probably
because
daniel
just
sent
her
an
invitation
to
the
hangout
so
colleen.
If
you
want
to
just
join
us
in
the
discussion
log
on
to
google
plus
and
then
let's,
let's
get
you
directly
involved
in,
what's
going
on.
C
So
yeah
the.
I
think
that
you
know
if
you're
talking
about
population
dynamics
and
resource
use
yeah.
The
fact
is
that
you
know
first
or
second
order
equations
or
structural
equation.
Modeling
you
have
to
have
system
dynamics.
You
have
to
have
a
way
to
deal
with
feedback
loops
that
you,
you
know
you
can't
just
talk
about:
hey,
let's
gross,
let's
grow
coffee
in
shady
places.
That's
not
going
to
work!
A
That
are
viable,
relevant
and
a
good
foundation
to
either
spark
ideas
for
more
class
thoughts
or
to
develop
these
out.
If,
if
folks,
within
the
planner
community
or
folks
who
haven't
yet
joined
as
faculty
members,
see
one
of
these
and
say
that's
the
course,
I
want
to
teach
and
again
we're
if
multiple
people
want
to
teach
the
same
sort
of
title.
A
That's
okay
in
for
so
many
reasons
that,
starting
times
different
teaching
styles
different
learning
styles,
you
know
you
could
courses
could
start
three
weeks
apart
three
months
apart
three
days
apart,
but
the
students
that
we
plan
on
reaching
are
going
to
have
different
schedules
are
going
to
have
different
demands
and
by
offering
multiple
versions
of
the
same
course,
either
from
the
same
instructor
at
a
staggered
time
frame
or
from
different
instructors.
A
C
You'll
see,
okay,
what's
the
list
of
skills
and
we
need
a
list
of
skills
and
then
you
can
comment.
You
know
the
discussion
tabs
are
the
perfect
place
to
get
involved
in
sort
of
the
ideological
battles
and
bloodletting
that
we
all
love
to
participate
in,
as
you
know,
as
academics.
So
you
know
if
you
don't
like
a
particular
section,
you
know
start
arguing
over
it.
C
Yeah
discussion
tabs
are
really
really
are
really
critical.
The
jed
harris
key
says
ecological
anthropology
as
a
as
a
potential
class
sure
so
yeah.
Let's
stick
it
on.
A
A
We
aren't
proposing
something
as
essentially
that
you
don't
need
a
you,
wouldn't
need
to
be
accredited
watch
like
engineering
or,
if
you're
gonna
build
a
rocket
to
take
a
degree
like
this.
I
don't
know
if
there
are
certain
accrediting
bodies.
That
would
I
mean,
of
course,
our
professional
associations.
A
Like
societies
and
such
but
ecological
economics,
yeah
rob
so
in
a
degree
like
this.
B
C
Well,
let's
say
that
I
was
so
professional
associations.
There's
there's,
there's
got
to
be
a
few,
you
know
out
there
on
you
know,
sustainable
there's
got
to
be
a
few
sustainability.
You
know
different
groups
but
like,
for
example,
let's
say
that
you
were
associated
with
woods:
hole.
C
Okay,
now
you
might,
you
know,
hey
you
know,
can
we
can
we
get
john
todd?
Okay,
google,
john
todd's
name,
okay
from
on
living
technologies,
and
you
know
that
might
be
a
great
person
to
you
know.
Connect
with
in
terms
of
you
know,
knowledgeable
of
sustainability.
C
Or
I
see
systems?
Okay,
so
you
can
list
kind
of
you
know
different.
C
You
can
list
different
groups.
That
might
you
know
be
interested
in
affiliating
or
might
be
of
use.
I
mean,
then,
of
course
I
put
down.
I
mean
there
are
tons
of
foundations
who
want
to
fund
sustainability
work.
So
you
know,
let's
pick
you
know,
let's
pick
one,
let's
say
the
argosy.
A
What
is
that?
One.
C
So
yeah,
you
know
you
know
I
would
put
some.
A
C
Oh
make
it,
no,
you
can
make
it
right
here.
What
if
it's,
for
example,
an
engineering
or
a
professional
degree
like
illegal
something,
then
of
course
we've
got
to
you
know,
make
sure
that
we
have
the
proper
accreditations
to
offer
that
degree,
but
you
know
it
might
be.
You
know
it
might
be
really
good
to
list
potential.
You
know
in
this
section.
You
know
funders
that
you
might
want
to
approach
detailed
timeline,
indoor
steps
from
proposal
until
the
graduation
of
the
first
class.
C
Okay,
so
why
don't
we
break
that
down,
though?
Just
what
level
of
figure
are
we
talking
a
certificate
or
are
we
talking
a
full-blown?
You
know
bachelors,
because
if
we're
talking
a
certificate?
Okay,
why
don't
we
say
a
timeline
for
the
certificate,
a
timeline
for
the
associates,
a
timeline.
In
fact,
what
might
be
easier
is
a
master's
degree
in
this,
rather
than
going
for
an
undergraduate
degree,
to
be
perfectly
blunt,
because
the
masters
won't
have
to
deal
with
the
general
liberal
rights.
C
We
need
to
have
a
doctorate
that
you
can
ask
yourself,
you
need
at
least
a
you
need
a
at
least
a
good
guy.
Our
tweets
are
going
crazy.
You
need
at
least
a
a
master's
to
teach
in
a
master's
program.
Okay,.
A
C
A
A
Canvas
is
going
crazy.
Also
with
can
you
pull
up
the
canvas
course
so
system
dynamics.
A
A
C
Well-
and
you
can
also
see
how
we
could
add
a
certificate
of
sustainable
business
practices
right,
which
would
be
not
in
addition
to
this,
but
it
might
include
you
know
the
first.
You
know
intro
to
sustainability,
social
sustainability
system
dynamics
and
then
three
others
in
you.
C
To
business
you
know
sustainable
business,
you
know
things
like
that,
so
you
can
build
the
certificates
out.
One
thing,
though,
to
keep
in
mind
for
every
I
think
everybody
listening
is
a
problem
with
listing
sort
of
certificates
by
class.
Is
that
you've?
Really?
You
really
need
to
spend
time
thinking
about
the
six
to
ten
skills
that
the
people
are
going
to
be
learning
from
each
class
from
each
class?
Now
you
don't
have
to
do
that
ahead
of
time.
Okay,
there's
kind
of
a
bunch
of
different
ways
to
approach
it.
C
C
B
A
C
A
This
would
be,
you
know,
506.
C
C
Could
potentially
fall
under
a
bunch
of
different
kinds
of
programs?
Okay,
for
example.
If
it
were
a
bachelor's,
I
could
see
you
know
an
undergraduate
class
in.
C
There
was
a
great
book
called
ecological
imperialism,
which
was
about
how
different
groups
brought
over
different
kinds
of
animals
and
plants,
fundamentally
changing
the
the
biome
and
the
environments
in
those
places
where
they
colonize.
You.
C
Along
the
line
of
you
know:
hands
on
the
land,
which
is
something
that
jan
alvarez
and
vermont
did
or
changes
in
the
land
by.
I
forget
the
guy
at
yale,
so
you
could
see
like
a
history
of
landscape
or
a
history
of
geology,
okay,
a
sort
of
an
environmental
history
in
the
great
book,
something
by,
of
course
by
mike
davis.
C
You
know,
city
of
quartz
or,
of
course,
just
on
you
know
his
stuff
on
late,
victorian,
holocausts,
okay,
which
was
all
centered
around.
You
know
the
el
nino
effect
and
its
impact
on
you
know
food
systems
and
trade
patterns
in
the
1800s.
So
you
have
to
be
flexible
and
open
to
allow
people
who
are
producing
other
other
things
to
to
basically
be
able
to
sign
on
or
have
that
course.
C
You
know
stand
for.
You
know
one
of
the
credits
in
your
particular
program,
but
that's
where
those
skills
things
come
into
play
because
if
you
listed
out
the
skills
in
a
class
and
you
listen
and
the
skills
are
listed
in
the
in
the
in
the
discipline,
okay
in
the
degree
program-
and
you
look-
and
you
say:
oh
you
know
these
skills
here.
Oh
you
need
those
skills,
they're
part
of
mine
too.
Then
you
say:
okay,
fine!
You
know
this
will
work
your
class.
C
Yeah
it
it
just,
I
think,
creates
a
better
way
of
of
people
of
of
of
students
being
able
to
navigate.
You
know
saying:
oh,
this
is
a
similar
kind
of
class
and
the
professor's
being
able
to
navigate
you
know
through
it.
You
know,
because
this
is
the
group
this
this
is
where
it
gets
tricky
for
a
parent
on
for
all
of
us
is
the
group
that
creates
a
sustainability.
C
Okay,
we've
got
to
figure
out
a
really
good
way
to
do
the
governance
and
have
it
be
open,
but
without
it
being
you
know
too
hierarchical
and-
and
you
know,
counterproduct,
you
know
without
getting
involved
in
too
much
in
the
whole
campus
politics
of
you
know,
one
class
cross
listings
et
cetera,
and
you
know
it's
kind
of
our
job
at
a
planner
to
try
to
control
that
somebody
would
have
to
come
up
with
a
really
good
reason.
Why,
of
course,
by
mike
davis,
you
know
wouldn't.
C
Be
one
of
the
things
that
could
could
could
be
part
of
that
bachelor's
degree
in
in
sustainability,.
A
So
what
scott
cohen
just
chimed
in-
and
maybe
this
is
something
that
we
can
look
with
the
electives
if
there
is
a
core
in
a
certificate
or
even
a
bat
masters
or
a
bachelor's,
and
we
can
have
a
bunch
of
different
arms,
but
we
could
take
sustainability
from
the
economic
financial
perspective
from
sociological
perspective,
from
a
political
public
policy
perspective
and
a
historical
perspective,
and
you
know
maybe
this
this
particular
program
might
not
well.
A
But
this
what
this
is
showing
is
that
this
process
of
creating
one
and
this
brainstorm
of
creating
one
program
proposal
has
now
sparked
the
idea
for
perhaps
five
or
so
more
again,
it's
a
long
way
to
get
it
all
the
way
through
for
any
work
that
we're
gonna
do
for
any
proposal.
But
this
process
is
the
collaboration
that
we
can
do
with
the
player
now
through
canvas
through
apps,
like
google
hangouts
skype,
google
docs
is
going
to
inform
a
lot
more.
I
don't
know
information
sharing
and
idea
creation.
C
C
You
know
we'll
take
a
look
at
some,
a
few
programs,
but
you
know
dan-
and
I
have
the
academic
background
in
this
field,
where
we
can
take
a
look
at
the
program
and
say
yeah,
great,
okay,
not
like
up
to
the
doctoral
level,
okay,
but
like
for
the
for
at
least
the
certificate
or
the
undergraduate
piece,
and
we
can
say
wonderful,
start
making
those.
You
know
this
sounds
great,
let's,
let's
make
it
and
so,
and
that
occurs
all
within
the
within
a
month
or
less
talk
about.
C
C
Yeah
yup,
you
know
that
might
be
a
way
to
get
at
it.
You
know,
we've
talked
this
will
come
up
more
tomorrow.
Whoever
said
that,
that's
a
great
insight.
C
We've
talked
about
how
the
portfolio
system
in
the
list
of
skills
that
I
could
see
the
case
happening
where
you
start,
you
want
a
certificate
in
x,
okay
and
then
you
start
taking
classes
and
you
take
classes
that
are
just
interesting
to
you.
C
Okay
and
us
asking
you
whether
you
would
like
that
degree
degree
awarded
even
after
you've,
received
your
your
certificate
or
to
say
hey
now,
you've
got
you
know,
70
of
a
degree
in
x,
fulfilled
and
40
in
a
degree
in
this
fulfilled,
you
know:
do
you
want
to
make
a
choice?
C
Do
you
want
us
to
if
you
want
to
have
a
meeting
about
which
track
you're
going
on
and
that's
all
going
to
be
able
to
happen
with
a
combination
of
concentrating
on
the
skills
list
and
the
the
data
mining,
but
also
the
the
the
courses
that
people
have
completed?
So
it
really
all
starts
the
basis
of
everything
you
know.
I
think
it's
becoming
clear.
Is
that
skills
list
and
how
we
figure
out
that
skills
in
that
content
piece.
A
C
We
haven't
yet
introduced
our
advisor,
so
I'd
like
so,
let's
just
stick
with
traditional
advisee
advice
or
relationship
for
right
now,
we'll.
B
C
Talk
about
that
later
on.
Suffice
it
to
say
that
there
are
all
kinds
of
ways
in
which
to
find
an
advisor
or.
C
To
help
guide
you
through
your
educational
process,
but
instead
of
being
assume
that
faculty
members
do
this
for
free,
we
figured
out
a
way
to
actually
rate
and
pay
faculty
members.
You
know
the
students
have
to
pay
a
small
fee
for
this
too,
but
how
they,
you
know,
become
advisors
and
receive.
You
know
some
payment
for
that,
and
that
also
again
lowers
the
cost
and
increases
the
the
the
quality.
A
Masters
so
in
about
45
minutes.
C
Yeah,
hey,
I
just
wanna
mention
on.
C
Ms
bright
okay,
who
she
posted
an
idea,
a
discussion
on
for
environmental
science.
You
know,
there's
kind
of
there's
two
pieces
to
this
to
using
the
wiki
or
using
the
canvas.
Okay,
and
that
is
canvas,
is
great
if
you're
a
faculty
team,
and
you
want
to
develop
and
you're
very
you're,
very
clear
as
a
team.
What
you
want
to
do
and
develop,
you
know,
use
the
discussion
pads.
You
know
within
within
canvas.
C
B
C
So
that's
why
I
that's
why
I
like
using
the
wiki
rather
than
doing
this
design
work
within
within
the
context
of
canvas.
However,
there
are
subjects
and
times
when
faculty,
you
know,
experts
in
the
field.
Practitioners,
okay,
need
to
be
able
to
have.
C
You
know,
frank
discussions
without
a
lot
of
people
watching
you
know
a
lot
of
people
inputting
on
particular
subjects,
even
in
terms
of
the
creation
of
a
of
a
certificate
or
a
degree
granting
so
we're,
not
gonna
we're
not
telling
you
use
the
wiki
or
you
or
or
or
just
use,
canvas
we're
giving
you
the
flexibility
to
do
both.
C
I
personally
think
it's
more
powerful.
If,
again
you
you
could
take
the
wiki
on
the
sustainability
degree
program
and
you
could
start
posting
it
with
students
to
get
their
input,
whether
the
skills
or
whether
the
courses
make
sense
and
and
and
whether
they
like
the
advising
piece
and
it's
easier
to
do
that
with
the
wiki
and
getting
involved
in
the
discussions
there
than
it
is
to
do
that
within
canvas,
especially
if
you're,
if
those
students
are
not
recruiting
yet
are
not
a
plethora
of
students.
Now.
C
That
being
said,
remember
that
you
know
the
degree
this
idea
for
a
degree
program
that
you've
got
outlined
is
you
know,
kind
of
it's
public.
It's
everybody's
able
to
see
it.
So
if
you
know
you're
into
super
secrecy,
then
you
know
just
use
the
canvas,
but
if
you're
into
I
think
degree
programs
are
going
to
be
it's
all
about.
C
C
But
remember
you
own
your
ip
you,
whether
it's
you
know
you
own
the
degree
you
own
the
classes
that
you
create
very
difficult
with
what
we've
written
up
here
I
mean:
there's,
not
there's
no
intellectual
property
here
at
home,
yet
yet
other
than
you
know.
If
you
would
produce
all
of
the
classes.
C
On
the
marketplace-
and
you
won't
so
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
us,
appropriating
your
stuff.
C
C
Okay,
I
mean
that's
going
to
happen.
How
will
we
manage
that
process?
Well,
since
faculty
own,
the
iep
of
their
courses?
Maybe
a
faculty
can't
teach
a
particular
class
one
semester
they
don't
want
to,
but
they
might
license
okay,
the
class
to
someone
else
to
teach
meaning
they'd
say:
hey.
You
know
I'll.
Let
you
use
my
course
materials
for
you
know:
50
bucks,
a
student
or
something
along
that
line
and
that
that's
something
we're
building
in
to
the
marketplace.
C
In
a
little
bit,
that's
kind
of,
like
you
know,
marketplace
2.0
you
build
your
faculty
to
license
their
materials
to
other
people.
Okay,
you
know
there
is
going
to
be
a.
There
is
going
to
be
a
faculty
evan
flow.
Here's
though
the
difference
colleen,
I
think,
is
that
you
know
this
is
you're
picking
the
classes
that
you
want
to
teach
you're,
not
only
picking
the
classes
that
you
want
to
teach
you
control
them,
you
own
them.
We
think
that
this
is
going
to
generate
a
lot
of
stickiness
and
loyalty
amongst
the
faculty.
C
You
know
we're
not
paying
you
you're,
not
earning
peanuts.
Okay,
you're,
not
earning
the
typical
adjunct,
stipend,
okay,
you
can
earn
a
very
nice.
You
know
the
course
on
system
dynamics
or
any
of
these
particular
classes.
You
know
they're
gonna,
you
know
you
can
earn
a
very
nice
living,
so
we
think
that's
gonna,
going
to
lessen
the
at
the
ebb
and
flow
would
block.
Will
faculty
be
able
to
be
put
on
a
list
like
can
also
teach
so
students
aren't
bottlenecked
in
needed
classes,
same
idea.
C
You
can
license
it
out
if
you've
got
a
really
popular
class
and
you
can't
you
can't
meet
the
the
need,
then
license
it
to
some
other
faculty
to
teach
and
take
a
cut.
Why
wouldn't
you
again
we're
going
to
do
with
those
kinds
of
cuts,
the
1910
rule,
meaning
you
get
90
of
your
license
fee
we
get
10.,
we
might
even
lower
that,
but
we're
not
gonna
raise
it
above.
You
know
ten
percent
to
be
consistent
to
be
consistent
with
everything
else.
C
C
Some
money
is,
our
goal
is
to
have
faculty
making
the
money
again
and
the
students
saving
on
the
tuition.
You
know
we
can
do
very
well
with
our
money
making
money
at
a
planner
down,
but
but
we
only
make
it
if
faculty
gets
to
is
successful
and
gets
to
make
that
make
money.
A
And
the
students
are
pleased
with
the
product
and
the
quality
of
the
courses.
So
you
know
in
this
brainstorm
session
we've
I
would
say,
completed
85
of
a
first
draft
of
a
proposal
we
had
people
come
in
through
canvas
through
twitter
through
email
collaborating
you
know
again
using
the
wiki.
There
are
other
ways,
of
course,
that
I'm
personally
more
of
a
google
docs
person
rob's
a
wiki
person,
so
whatever,
however,
you
want
to
start.
The
conversation
is
is
valuable
because
you
know
you
can't
have
a
conversation.
A
If
you
don't
start
the
conversation,
so
you
know
we
urge
you
to
jump
in
if
you
are,
if
you
have
signed
up
for
woodblock,
for
example,
you
are
enrolled
in
a
canvas
course
with
whatever
email,
if
you're,
not
a
faculty
member,
it's
just
your
personal
email.
If
you
are
a
faculty
member,
it's
your
clarinet
email
address
and
there's
discussion
boards
that
have
really
sparked
up.
I
think
there's
four
ideas:
bachelor
of
science
in
business,
political
science,
environmental,
science,
there's
a
lot
of
ways.
A
You
can
use
canvas
to
just
start
the
conversations
and
move
to
other
tools,
and
it
also
allows
you
to
around
in
canvas
and
see
if
it's
or
not.
If
because
it
is
a
great
product,
but
what
sort
of
features
you
might
want
to
use
when
creating
your
courses
and
maybe
envisioning
your
degree
proposal
through
the
lens
that
canvas
and
the
portal
that
it'll
be
between.
You
know,
faculty
and
students.
C
The
only
thing
I
want
to
add
is
you
know
those
people
on
canvas.
Who've
created
these
discussion
groups
about
the
bachelor
of
science
and
international
relations.
That's
christopher
and
you
know
other
kinds
of
degree
offerings.
You
know,
recruit
your
dream
team.
You
know
you.
You've
got
an
idea
of
what
you're,
what
the
perfect
department
would
be,
who
you
want
to
work
with?
Okay,
recruit
them.
Have
them
go
to
the
faculty
and
sign
up?
C
You
know
they
can
sign
the
contract.
We
can
turn
it
around
in
like
24
hours
their
contract,
so
they
get
a
canvas
account
and
you
can
be
producing
and
getting
your
stuff
up
to
date.
You
know
you
could
conceivably
have
your
group
and
your
network
and
your
department
up
teaching
classes,
not
the
degree
programs
yet,
but
you
can
have
that.
C
You
know
your
group
up
and
running
and
working
and
producing
things
you
know
in
48
hours
I
mean
when
does
that
ever
happen
in
you
know
traditional
ira
you've
got,
you
know,
don't
wait
for
orders
from
headquarters.
Okay,
recruit
your
dream
team,
build
the
courses
and
the
programs
and
the
certificates
that
you
want.
Okay
and
you
know
we're
we're
going
to
review
them,
but
you
know
we've
been
pleased
with
the
professional.
C
You
know
with
the
professional
quality
of
things
that
people
have
created,
and
so,
let's
just
do
it,
let's
not
wait
to
get
the
you
know,
have
the
faculty
center
to
prove
your
your
plan
for
xyz,
okay,
you
just
have
a
small
group
of
people
to
deal
with
and
we
can
get
through
those
proposals.
Pretty
quick
and
there
are
a
lot
of
students
who
want
to
learn
from
you,
so
you
know
get
to
it.
A
Jump
in
jump
in
and
do
so
we're
gonna
if
there
aren't
any
more
questions.
This
has
been.
We
like
to
keep
things
to
an
hour
if
possible,
for
attention
span
considerations,
so
I'm
just
gonna
look
through
and
make
sure
we've
hit
everything
we
need
to
and
of
course
the
conversation
continues
in
the
comments
section
of
the
youtube
video.
A
If
you're
again,
if
you're
in
canvas
pop
into
the
discussion
boards
there
and
we'll
create
a
wiki
page,
do
you
have
anything?
We
can
obviously
keep
going
with
this
too
off
off
air.
C
We've
got
just
one
thing:
a
general
education
instructor
just
looking
to
teach
gen
ed
courses,
you
know
you,
you
know
again,
you
don't
need
the
certificate
program
to
do
that.
Just
start
producing
the
courses,
but
we'd
really
appreciate
it.
If
you
would
again
recruit
gen
ed
faculty
members
who
want
to
produce
new
stuff.
A
A
Conversation
start
that
conversation
have
your
own
and
come
prepared
to
the
conversation
well
with
some
thoughts,
but
again
we're
kind
of
operating
on
a
permission,
free
progress
zone
where
you
just
go
we're
empowering
as
many
people
as
we
can,
including
ourselves,
including
all
the
future
folks
who
will
join
us
that
you
know
this
is
an
entrepreneurial,
take
control
of
your
your
content
and-
and
you
know
your
future
and
your
income
and
students
how
you
can
affect
you
know
the
minds
of
future
students,
so
jump
in
is
is
is
really
what
we're
looking
for
everyone
to
do
here.
A
So
thanks
for
joining
us,
we
will
be
back
tomorrow
with
day
two
of
woodblock.
The
schedule
has
been
updated
with
some
rescheduled
and
augmented
sections
and
presentations.
So
we
look
forward
to
to
having
you
and
have
a
good
day
evening.
C
C
Whether
a
program
is
going
to
have
a
market
et
cetera,
just
shoot
us
an
email
at
questions.com
and
we'll
schedule
in
something
over
the
next
three
days
a
session
we
can
enter
one
of
your
working.
You
know
if
you're,
if
you've
got
a
working
group
and
you're
working
during
one
of
the
times
the
working
sessions,
let
us
know
we'd
love
to
participate
and
and
we'll
come
in
and
answer
your
questions.