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Description
• Since there is not one global culture, there cannot be one general studies program. However, there are some areas of knowledge/skills that all people need to have. How do we create a basic foundation of skills that allows for as much cultural diversity as possible
• Discussion and Critique of the Proposal on the Net
A
Good
morning
I'm
rob
skiff,
I'm
the
founder
and
ceo
of
aplerno,
and
this
is
woodblock
2014.
day.
Three
and
we've
got
a
couple
of
workshops
planned
for
this
app
for
this
morning.
This
afternoon
you
can
check
out
the
schedule
on.
A
Apparently.Wikispaces.Com
and
look
for
woodblock
2014
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
click
on
that,
and
then
at
the
bottom
of
the
page,
you'll
see
a
schedule.
So
I'm
doing
this
presentation
from
the
offices
of
one
of
the
offices
of
a
player
now
located
in
burlington
vermont,
but
we've
got
team
members
we're
located
all
over
the
world.
Daniel
crompton
is
running
things
over
in
the
netherlands
and
we've
also
dan
kirk
is
joining
us.
Some
off-site
faculty
members
are
all
over
this
building
and
other
places
tuning
in.
A
A
Yeah
so
let's
get
to
it
today's
morning
session,
which
is
going
to
go
about
a
half
hour
to
45
minutes
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
whoops.
Let
me
start
showing
the
screen.
A
A
So
we're
going
to
be
using
the
wiki,
and
so
let
me
just
show
you
where
the
schedule
of
events
is
so
you've
got
woodblock
2014.
You
can
go
to
the
schedule
of
events.
B
A
We
are
here
where
we're
going
to
talk
about
there,
no
in
general
studies,
openness,
modules
and
choice,
and
what
we're
also
going
to
be
doing
in
the
course
of
this
presentation.
A
Is
I'm
going
to
be
sharing
with
you
all
some
of
the
governance
features
that
our
planner
uses
with
the
wiki
as
we
build
out
what
our
general
studies
of
proposal
for
general
studies
program
that
we're
creating.
So
let
me
just
get
to
on
the
way
in
which
we
share
the
way
in
which
we
work
and
our
governance
procedures
before
proceeding
with
that
with
that
conversation,
so
one
of
the
big
points
that
one
of
the
big
benefits
of
a
playernow
is
the
open
governance
policy
that
we
have
we're.
A
That's
really
important
in
terms
of
governance
is
that
rather
than
administrations,
an
administration
deciding
everything
that
goes
on
what
we
want,
what
we
need
to
do
is
make
policy
creation
and
proposals
a
whole
lot
more
open,
and
this
is
especially
the
case
when
you're
talking
about
creating
you
know
general
studies,
programs.
As
we've
said
in
the
last
few
days,
the
a
player
know
right
now
we're
developing
a
lot
of
courses.
A
We
have
over
a
hundred
courses
under
development
and
we're
starting
the
process,
and
this
week,
if
you've
been
participating,
you'll
see
that
there
are
several
different
certificate
and
degree
programs
that
are
starting
to
be
worked
on
and
proposed
as
we
move
to
apply
for
degree
granting
authority
the
state
of
vermont
and
the
national
and
regional
accrediting
groups
in
the
us
as
we're
going
through
that
process
administrations.
A
You
know
we
could
try
to.
You,
know,
build
out
and
say,
hey
create
this
particular
class,
but
that's
not
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
We're
trying
to
create
a
new
type
of
governance
model
and
one
that
again
gives
maximum
freedom
and
responsibility
and
benefit
to
faculty.
A
So
what
we're
gonna?
What
we
have
here
is
on
our
wiki
are
all
our
policies,
all
the
student
contracts,
the
faculty
contract
and
you
can
go
on
and
you
can
comment
on
those
you
can
enter
a
comment
in
the
discussion
if
you
would
like
to
recommend
a
change
in
a
contract
or
a
change
in
the
student
contract
or
a
change
in
the
faculty
contract.
We've
also
got
information
on
our
wiki
about
accreditation
and
approval
and
different
kinds
of
mild
posts
that
we
have.
A
But
the
biggest
thing,
of
course,
is
a
rough
guideline
to
this
degree
and
certificate
development
guidelines,
and
then
here
below,
we
have
you
know
some
of
these.
You
know
the
rough
outlines
of
a
business
program
and
the
rough
outline
of
the
of
a
food
service
management
certificate.
So,
if
you're
interested
in
teaching
or
interested
in
developing
something,
you
can
do
that
through
the
wiki.
A
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
walk
you
through,
as
we
create
the
the
proposal
for
general
studies,
and
we
talk
about
modules
and
how
I
conceive
of
something
we're
going
to
do
that
on
the
wiki
and
show
how
to
create
the
a
page
and
how
to
start
generating
discussions,
and
the
goal
here
is
to
come
up
with
a
structure
and
to
come
up
with
feedback
loops
feedback
that
allows
a
player
now
myself
and
our
team
to
then
implement
what
we
think,
a
general
that
it's
europe.
A
Sorry,
it's
your
recommendations
about
what
a
general
studies
program
is
going
to
look
like
and
we're
also
going
to
start
taking,
I'm
going
to
propose
a
few
issues
to
deal
with
transfer
credits,
we're
going
to
be
following
up
with
with
that
tomorrow
in
terms
of
talking
about
another
type
of
conceptual
framework
in
terms
of
dealing
with
requirements
for
a
bachelor's
and
again
the
requirements
for
the
general
studies.
A
So
without
further
ado,
we'll
create
the
page.
So
it's
really
simple.
You
know:
we've
got
the
schedule
schedule
of
events
for
woodblock
21
and
you
know
on
the
wiki
I've
logged
on
so
on
the
upper
right
hand
corner.
You
can
see
I'm
logged
on
because
it's
got
my
icon
and
it's
got
my
name
go
to
wikispaces.com
and
you
can.
A
A
A
Va
because
I
want
to
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
talking
about
the
general
studies
framework
within
the
context
of
an
associate's
degree
and
a
bachelor's
degree,
remember
that
one
of
the
other
great
things
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do
at
a
plano
is
offer
certificates
of
study,
which
are
courses
that
are
three
or
more
three
or
more
classes
bundled
together.
A
A
But
in
the
case
of
an
associates
or
bachelor's
degree
in
the
us
and
in
lots
of
different
countries
getting
into
getting
an
associates
or
bachelor
means
that
you're
also
getting
a
sense
of
learning
about
general
education
and
what
sort
of
skills
an
individual
needs
to
survive
and
thrive
in
in
the
21st
century,
but
also
drawing
upon
having
a
good
understanding
of
the
culture
that
you're
from
and
potentially
other
cultures
in
the
world.
A
You
know
cut
and
paste
the
document
and
get
rid
of
that
little
that
little
those
little
dots
so
in
the
agenda
it
says,
since
there's
not
one
global
culture.
There
can't
be
one
general
studies
program.
However,
there
are
some
areas
of
knowledge
and
skills
that
all
people
need
to
have.
How
do
we
create
a
basic
foundation
of
skills
that
allows
for
as
much
cultural
diversity
as
possible?
Rob
is
going
to
make
his
first
attempt
at
outlining
the
basics,
but
this
is
very
much
up
for
discussion.
A
Okay,
so,
in
the
way
we've
conceptualized,
the
framework
of
for
the
degree,
is
that
roughly
half
the
credits
in
a
120
credit
program
are
going
to
be
in
the
discipline
focused
in
on
the
the
discipline
in
the
major
and
the
degree
program
that
you
are
learning
in,
but
the
other
half
are
going
to
be
courses
that
deal
with
you
know
again,
general
education,
general
knowledge
that
everybody
should
have
and
for
for
me
in
the
proposal
that
that
we
want
to
the
things
that
we
think
everyone
should
know
now
that
this
a
lot
of
ink
has
been
spilled
on
these
debates
about
what
it
is
that
people
need
to
have
an
understanding
of
so
we're
going
to
start
with
the
broadest
categories
possible.
A
Okay
and
those
categories,
are
everyone
really
needs
to
understand
and
know
about?
Math,
okay,
have
a
good
understanding
of
mathematics
and
how
to
apply
mathematic,
mathematical
understanding
and
reasoning
to
real
world
problems.
The
other
piece
is
that
we
have
to
know
how
to.
A
Write
and
read
now,
writing
and
reading
in
the
communication
of
the
written
word
is
extremely
important
notice.
How
I'm
not
saying,
write
and
read
english,
because
what
we've
got
is
the
apperno,
the
plairno
por.
Sorry,
the
aplernose
system
in
canvas
supports
multiple
languages
and
multiple
language
platforms.
A
So
it's
really
important
that
you're
competent
in
reading
and
writing
in
a
in
a
language,
but
we're
not
going
to
say
that
it's
going
to
be
english,
okay,
math
reading
and
writing.
A
B
A
Okay,
it
is
again
today
very,
very
critical
to
have
you
know,
knowledge
and
understanding
of
science,
and
it's
it's
pretty.
You
know
that's
pretty
self-explanatory.
A
Sciences:
okay,
the
basically,
what
we're
talking
about
is
history.
A
Sorry
things
that
deal
with
complexity
in
terms
of
whether
it's
the
natural
world
and
human
beings,
or
whether
it's
understanding,
history
and
culture,
that's
going
to
be
kind
of
all
under
the
social
sciences,
and
you
have
to
have
those
you
have
to
have
a
good
basic
understanding
of
the
disciplines
and
the
knowledge
in
those
areas.
And
finally,.
B
A
So
today,
while
I'm
in
while
I
was
born
an
english
speaker,
I
have
knowledge
of-
I
don't
speak
it
fluently,
but
of
spanish.
You
know
today,
in
a
globalized
world,
you
need
to
have
both
now
it's
up
to
not
just
spanish
but
learn
another
language
outside
your
native
one.
So
because
the
world
is
so
small
globalization
is
so
big.
A
It's
such
a
big
factor,
you're
encountering
people
with
all
sorts
of
backgrounds
and
cultures,
and
it's
a
really
good
idea
that
you
know
how
to
speak
another
language
other
than
your
own,
both
to
communicate
with
someone
outside
your
the
the
groups
you're
familiar
with,
but
also
because
learning
another
language
is
learning
another
way
to
think
each
language
has
its
different
sort
of
unique
structures
that
it
uses
to
understand
the
world,
and
so
by
studying
a
foreign
language
you're
going
to
get
a
great.
A
It's
a
great
training
to
be
able
to
look
outside
yourself
notice.
Without
what
I
haven't
put
in.
A
A
Okay,
so,
in
other
words,
having
an
understanding
of
the
literature,
the
of
having
understanding
of
literature
having
an
understanding
of
art,
all
kinds
is
very
much
culturally
dependent.
A
While
I
think
humanities
are
extremely
important,
the
specific
humanities
that
we're
talking
about
the
specific
cultural
context
of
the
humanities.
This
is
going
to
be
an
area
that
I
hope
generates
a
lot
of
debate.
Okay
and
we'll
be
talking
a
little
bit
more
about
that
tomorrow,.
B
A
C
C
C
You
just
tweet
me
through
padillo.
A
However,
I
think
we'd
be
doing
the
students
a
disservice
if
we
didn't
have
some
type
of
general
distribution
in
terms
of
everybody
having
to
to
take
a
mathematics,
some
mathematics
class.
Maybe
we
also
decide
on
a
level
of
knowledge
that
they
have
to
have
in
mathematics,
but
that's
something
that
the
faculty
in
the
community
can
talk
about.
A
The
science
is
the
same
thing
and
again
the
goal:
maximum
flexibility
and
diversity
for
the
options
of
moving
through
the
system
and
then
something
that
is
going
to
generate
a
lot
of
debate
also
is
transfer
credits.
Okay
does
a
course
from
another
institution.
A
Can
that
be
transferred
into
an
apple,
no
degree,
and
the
answer
to
that
one
is
yes:
okay,
we're
going
to
accept
credits
from
any.
A
Meditation
and
that
might
be
us
and
others
okay
now,
while
we'll
accept
the
credit
for
transfer
into
our
general
studies
program
and
to
to
be
part
of
the
the
ba
or
the
aaa,
a
really
important
thing
to
remember
is
that
those
those
we
can't
document
the
skills
that
are
being
transferred
from
that
class
so
and
the
skills
are
a
big
part
of
our
skills
portfolio
and
the
value
added
of
the
planner.
A
So
while
you
can
transfer
credits
in
to
potentially
get
a
degree,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
use
those
classes
to
document
particular
skills
that
you
have,
that
really
are
again
pretty
spectacular
to
be
able
to
show
that
students
have
that
you've
learned
how
to
think
critically
manage
a
particular
process
in
a
in
a
restaurant
or
have
written
a
play
and
figured
out
the
budget
in
terms
of
dealing
with
startup
or
how
to
run
an
I.t
division.
A
All
those
things
can
be
captured
in
the
portfolio,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
transferring
information.
Sorry
we're
not
going
to
be
transferring
skills
from
one
class
in
another
at
another
institution
into
us.
Let's
also
talk.
I
want
to
propose
this
and
have
some
reaction
and
talk
about.
A
A
Coursera,
okay,
sarzino
corsair
are
these
large
moocs,
okay
and
let's
just
click
to
some
of
the
courses
and
while
being
taking
a
class.
That's
a
mooc
and
being
part
of
you
know:
100
000
or
20
000
people
who
are
taking
the
class,
and
then
you
know
having
most
of
your
evaluations
being
done
by
multiple
guests.
Sorry,
multiple
choice,
exams.
A
While
we
don't
believe
at
a
player
note
that
that's
the
best
way
to
learn.
We
want
to
keep
our
classes
small
under
20.
high.
A
You
know
a
lot
of
faculty
student
involvement
if
someone
takes
a
class
in
a
particular
subject,
and
it's
12
weeks
long
or
it's
that
carnegie
carnegie
program,
meaning
that
it's
three
credits,
basically
36
carnegie
units,
meaning
three
times
12
12
weeks,
long
three
carnegie
units
per
week,
so
36
carnegie
units,
okay
of
contact
hours.
Wouldn't
we
want
to
allow
a
student
if
they
passed
the
exam
and
they
earned
a
certificate
and
it
was
verified.
A
Why
wouldn't
we
want
a
student
to
potentially
transfer
that
certificate
that
they've
earned
from
coursera
or
edx
into
getting
into
plano
degree?
There's
a
couple
different
reasons
to
allow
that
we
can
take
a
look
at
oh
wow.
This
is
great
some
competition
for
me
in
terms
of
learning
to
teach
online,
I'm
offering
a
class
in
using
technology
to
subvert
hierarchy
in
the
classroom,
and
I
can
take
a
look
at
the
course
syllabus.
A
Okay,
it's
it's
eight
weeks
of
study
three
to
six
hours
of
work
a
week,
so
this
might
actually
not
meet
our
standards
in
terms
of
the
carnegie
contact
hour.
Unless
you
know
we
were
to
really
take
a
look
at
the
courses
and
the
course
syllabus
and
maybe
I'll
contact
the
professors
to
check
that
out.
A
We
can
take
a
look
at
the
course
syllabus.
We
can
a
student
and
also
us
when
we're
evaluating
the
transfer
credit
can
take
a
look
at
the
what
background
you
need
to
take
the
class
and
you
can
take
a
look
at
the
suggested
readings
format
and
some
outlines
and
awards
some
feedback
and
see
whether
the
class
would
work.
You
have
to
ask
yourself:
okay,
here,
a
student
could
take
this
class
for
free,
maybe
they're
gonna,
remember
with
moocs.
The
participation
rate
drops
off
over
time.
A
Again,
if
they
were
to
learn
the
basics,
the
question
that
should
be
that
we
should
ask
as
a
community
is
why
wouldn't
we
take
this
class
as
a
transfer
credit,
it's
being
taught
by
professors
at
the
university
of
new
south
wales,
we
can
look
and
analyze
what
these
guys,
what
these
people
are
up
to.
A
We
can
look
at
the
lectures
we
can
look
at
the
the
assessment
regime
see
whether
it
it
fits
in
whether
it's
a
legitimate
course
and
even
though
coursera
doesn't
offer
none
of
the
coursera
partners
are
going
to
offer
to
accept
that
credit
at
their
university.
So
the
university
of
new
south
wales
isn't
going
to
accept
the
course
that
they're
offering
on
coursera
for
credit
in
university
of
north
south
wales.
I
think
that's
a
little
weird,
but
that's
just
me.
A
We
might
want
to
do
that
because
isn't
the
point
to
help
bomb
students
navigate
through
the
system
earn
a
degree,
but
also
you
know
this.
This
is,
might
be
a
good,
very
good,
general
knowledge
class.
A
But
if
you
really
want
to
know
how
to
take
things
to
another
level
in
terms
of
technology
in
the
classroom,
you
might
want
to
be
part
of
my
certificate
program
on
online
learning
and
education.
So
we
have
to
be
open
as
an
institution,
in
my
opinion,
to
looking
at
these
free
services
in
these
moocs
and
integrating
them
into
what
we're
doing.
At
a
player,
we've
got
to
keep
remember
player
no
means
open
learning
organization
and
while
portfolio
while
the
portfolio
system
is
something
that
we're
going
to
own
and
you
can't
transfer.
A
We
can't
document
whether
students
know
how
to
do
the
particular
list
of
things
that
they
say:
they're
teaching
with
their
mooc
and
that's
not
going
to
be
possible
in
the
class
of
a
hundred
thousand,
and
we
again.
We
also
want
the
auditing
function
of
being
able
to
trace
back
to
the
faculty
member
who
signed
off
on
that
student's
ability
if
it's
a
transfer
credit
to
earn
a
certificate
or
a
degree.
A
Why
wouldn't
we
allow
them
to
save
some
money
and
to
get
them
involved
in
education
with
us?
Okay,
so
nice
thing
about
the
wiki?
Is
we
can
edit?
The
wiki
and
notice
when
I
hit
edit
you
know
it's
important,
that
people
take
a
look
at
the
coursera
stuff
and
I
highlighted
whoops.
Let
me
explain
how
I
did
that
I
highlighted
I
hit
link
and
I
go
down
and
I
click
on
web
address
and
I
just
paste
it
in,
and
I've
created
a
link
to
coursera
and
I
will
c-o-u-r-s-e-r-a.
B
A
And
then
we
can
take
a
look
at
the
courses.
We're
not
you
know.
What's
interesting
is
so
their
show
we're
showing
all
of
edx's
classes
and
it
looks
like
they
have
225
of
these
edx
classes
available
and
people
could
go
through
and
they
can
look
and
again
they
can
find
out.
If
there's
a
particular
time,
you
can
see
the
times
that
these
courses
are
starting.
A
Why
wouldn't
we
take
a
look
at
potentially
transferring
some
of
these
basic
classes
for
a
degree
program
or
a
certificate
program
that
applause
offers,
so
I'm
gonna
throw
I'm
gonna
also
link
to
edx.
I
hope
again.
I
hope
this
generates
a
lot
of
debate,
because
we
need
to
make
sure
that
education
is
affordable
to
the
students
that
they're
going
to
be
getting
their
degrees.
A
But
you
know
to
be
perfectly
blunt
if
we
were
to
have
a
lot
of
interest,
I
think
that
our
faculty
members
are
going
to
be
able
to
very
quickly
show
how
much
better
it
is
to
learn
in
small
groups
with
a
professor
and
that,
while
the
edx
courses
are
free,
you
know
charging
500
or
a
thousand
dollars
for
really.
You
know
a
specialized
class
or
a
really
good
class,
where
you're,
where
you've
got
much
more
interaction
and
you're
learning
things
from
from
from
the
faculty.
A
Well,
that's
a
really
really
important
option
and
and
really
we're
spending
the
money
on.
If
you
have
it,
but
a
lot
of
people
right
now
are
hurting
with
student
loan
debt
with
the
cost
of
education,
and
maybe
they
want
to
kind
of
they
can
learn
the
basics,
the
general
education
things
from
a
lot
of
these
free
and
online
sources
that
are
very,
very
good
and
then
they
can
transfer
them
in
and
take
more
specialized
courses
with.
A
You
know
a
player
now,
but
again
we're
going
to
probably
we're
going
to
accept.
This
is
my
proposal
we're
going
to
accept
credits
from
any
institution
that
has
state
national
or
regional
accreditation
and
accept
them
as
potentially
counting
towards
a
certificate
or
towards
a
towards
a
degree.
The
the
question
marks
are
going
to
be
the
coursera
and
the
nx,
but
I
think
we
should
seriously
consider
saying
hey
if
they've
passed
the
exam,
if
they've
gotten
the
certificate,
they
pass
the
exam
from
coursera.
A
A
Let
me
just
toss,
though,
a
comment:
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
the
cost
issue
and
also
the
the
cost
issue,
and
also.
A
The
wiki,
and
also
about
you,
know
taking
a
look
at
you
know,
taking
a
look
at
which
general
education
or
general
studies
pieces
that
we
want
to
take
in
take
a
look
at
is
that
we
can
look
at
examples.
A
B
A
B
A
I'm
going
to
pick
kind
of
I
like
to
think
of
big
picture
first
and
then
drill
down
in
terms
of
finding
how
to
implement
a
particular
policy.
So.
A
The
justification
for
hey!
Why
why
math
reading
and
writing
science
and
the
social
sciences?
I
think.
A
Was
a
school
that
I
myself,
my
wife
and
my
dad
started,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
really
concerned
about
is
math
science,
language
arts
within
the
context
of
the
environment,
okay,
and
that,
while
okay,
these
guiding
mission,
while
the
mission
and
guiding
principles
has
changed
slightly
since
since
we
were
there,
the
most
important
thing
is,
I
think,
is
their
discussion
still
of
distributions
and
also
realizing
that
hey
to
thrive
in
the
age
in
which
complexity
and
opportunity
are
created,
an
ever
accelerating
pace.
A
Students
must
become
skilled
in
a
balanced
mix
of
the
language,
arts,
mathematics,
physical,
natural
and
social
sciences,
as
well
as
artistic,
musical
and
athletic
expression.
Okay,
I'd
word
it
slightly
differently,
but
hey.
That's
a
good
example
of
what
a
general
education
should
include.
You
know
we're
talking
language
arts
which
corresponds
to
our
you
know.
Reading
and
writing
a
professor
there
cara,
simone
bader,
you
know
was
really
really.
She
really
really
stressed,
and
we
all
did
in
all
our
classes.
A
Learning
how
to
write
mathematics
is
a
language
used
to
describe
the
world.
You
have
to
be
able
to
to
use
that
if
you're
going
to
be
educated
and
no
matter
where
you
know
what
culture
or
area
you're
from
you've
got
to
understand
that
these
three
you
know
again
from
my
comments.
We
were
teaching
everything
within
the
context
of
the
environment.
That's
you
know
there
very
well
may
be
a
general
studies
program,
okay,
that
you
can
sign
up
for
and
and
go
on
a
track.
A
That's
going
to
be
much
more
focused
on
teaching.
You
know
general
general
education
within
the
context
of
the
environment.
That's
great,
but
everything
should
be,
including
you
know
again,
understanding
of
the
physical,
natural
and
social
sciences,
and
then
we
have
the
humanities,
look
artistic
musical
pieces
for
the
humanities
and
athletic
expression.
When
I
was
there,
we
talked
about
you
know:
life-long
life-long
activity
and
lifelong
fitness.
A
So,
even
though
we're
talking
about
this
was
a
you
know,
secondary
school,
which
means
you
know
it
was
the
high
school
piece
you
know
just
before
college.
A
lot
of
these
skills.
A
lot
of
these
areas
that
we're
talking
about
are
things
that
can
be
integrated
to
an
aaa
and
to
an
associates
or
a
bachelor's
degree
in
general
studies,
and
this
does,
though,
provide
the
justification.
Why
do
we
do
general
studies?
A
A
The
reason
why
we
want
general
studies
is
because,
if
you
live
in
a
world
in
an
age
where
there's
complexity
and
things
are
rapidly
changing,
you
have
to
understand
that
the
knowledge
you
learn
right
now,
the
knowledge,
the
facts
you
learn
right
now,
in
10
years,
a
lot
of
them
are
going
to
be
outdated,
and
so,
instead,
what
you've
got
to
concentrate
is
understanding,
skills,
meaning
you
know
ways
of
thinking
you
have
to
understand
critical
thinking
pieces
and
how
do
you
do
that?
A
That's
got
to
be
integrated
with
all
of
your
classes,
but
really
there's
certain
knowledges
and
ways
of
thinking
that
everybody
needs
to
be
familiar
with
and
that's
math
reading
and
writing
science,
and
you
know
another
language,
etc.
B
A
Later
I
personally
liked
our
old
mission
guiding
principles.
Another
institution
is
going
to
have
as
institutions
change
they're
going
to
you
know.
Different
leadership
comes
on
board
they're
going
to
be.
B
B
A
Another
program
that
you
know
we
again
want
to
stress
the
fact
that
they're
going
to
be
many
tracks
in
terms
of
general
general
education
program
that
we're
going
to
want
to
follow
and
kind
of
different
modules.
So
there
might,
in
this
case
general
education
and
centered
around
the
environment
and
ecology
and
teaching
those
basic
skills.
Within
the
context
of
that,
I
also
you
know,
an
incredible
model
is.
A
It's
located
out
in
located
out
in
santa
fe
new
mexico
and
I
think,
a
couple
of
other
places,
but
what
they
do
is
they
do
they
design
a
whole
undergraduate
program.
Centered
around
you
know
the
classics
of
what
we
call
kind
of
the
classics
of
western
civilization.
You
know
I
mean
look
at
this
bookshelf.
These
are
books
that
everybody
you
know
that
they're
the
great
books
and
it's
okay
to
say,
hey.
A
We
think
if
you
were
going
to
enter
a
general
studies
program
and
go
on
a
particular
track,
okay
and
on
this
track.
Within
this
context,
you
know:
hey
we're,
you
know
we're
going
to
be
read:
plato,
we're
going
to
you
know
we're
going
to
be
concerned
with
you
know.
A
We've
got
a
very
sort
of
prescriptive
program
and
kind
of
looking
at,
and
you
know,
potentially
you
know
these
people
really,
you
know,
have
a
focus
of
the
way
they're
going
to
be
teaching
and
what
they're
going
to
be
teaching
about,
and
it
is
okay
to
see
whether
some
of
the
principles
that
they
are
talking
about,
whether
we
could
integrate
them
into
an
aplerno
general
education
degree
program.
A
So
you
see
now
what
we're
doing
is
we're
creating
different
resources
that
people
can
click
on
and
we
can
use
to
generate
a
discussion.
A
However,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
communicating
if
you
go
on
this
track.
This
is
what
you're
going
to
get.
If
you
go
on
that
track.
This
is
what
you're
going
to
get
not
be
too
prescriptive.
I
would
say
that
you
know
on
one
end
of
the
spectrum
is
the
saint
john's
version
where
they
have?
You
know
you're
going
to
be
taking
this
class
you're
going
to
be
reading
these
particular
books-
and
this
is
your
first
year
your
second
year
third
year
in
your
fourth
year
program.
A
On
the
other
end,
you've
got
schools
like
you
know,
burlington
college,
or
in
the
northeast
and
goddard
where
you
know
you
can
practically
design
your
own
undergraduate
degree
through
a
series
of
courses
that
are
offered
and
ones
that
you
transfer
in.
I
think
we
as
an
institution
need
to
be
able
to
advise
students
on
taking
different
tracks,
but
we
also
need
to
create
the
space
where
faculty
can
innovate.
We,
you
know
the
best
teachers
I
had
in
terms
of
of
philosophy,
or
you
know
back
when
I
was
taking.
A
Courses
in
theology
were
the
ones
who
were
absolutely
really
really
conservative,
traditionalists
and
literalists.
If
I
wanted
to
learn
about
different
interpretations
in
the
the
hebrew
bible
or
a
particular,
let's
say
you
know
the
book
of
job
or
judges.
I
took
those
from
you
know
the
most
traditional
scholar
that
I
could
get
a
hold
of,
because
I
wanted
to
really
figure
out
within
their
context
what
they
were
interpreting
as
the
text
meant.
A
However,
I
also
you
know,
would
move
on
to
go
to
other
departments
and
take
classes
with
you
know,
people
who
were
really
interested
in
you
know
post-modernism
and
post-structuralism,
and
have
a
much
more
free-flowing
discussion.
Both
were
great
scholars,
but
they
had
different
approaches.
A
We
have
to
create
the
the
environment
where
we
have
flexibility,
so
that
people
can
access
on
the
type
of
learning
and
the
type
of
knowledge
that
they
want,
but
offer
them
diversity
of
different
approaches,
not
telling
them
exactly
what
they
should
study,
but
giving
them
guide
guidelines
and
signed
posts
that
allow
them
to
move
through
a
system
so
that
they
can,
you
know,
earn
that
aaa
in
the
ba
with
general
studies
now
master's
degrees
are
completely
different,
are
completely
different
and
graduate
degrees
are
completely
different
because
they
don't
they're
more
specialized,
we're
talking
about
the
associates
and
the
bachelors
we're
going
to
have
to
tackle.
A
What
does
general
studies
mean?
How
do
we
create
openness,
okay
and
allowing
people
to
create
particular
types
of
programs
modules
which,
in
this
case
are
sort
of
you
know,
certificates
that
can
lead
to
degrees
and
choice?
We
really
want
to
create
a
lot
of
choice,
choice
for
faculty
in
terms
of
how
they're
going
to
teach
what
they're
going
to
offer
and
choice
for
students
in
terms
of
how
they're
going
to
enter
our
programs
and
part
of
the
way
in
which
students
are
going
to
do.
That
is
through
transfer
credits.
C
So
we've
got
a
question
or
a
comment.
A
If
we
want
gen
ed
for
students
to
understand
a
complex
world,
we're
concerned
with
no
exposure
to
the
humanities
outside
of
the
white
dude
canon,
I
agree
when
I
brought
up
st
john's
st
john's-
is
a
when
we
bring
up
st
john's.
You
know
this
is
the
white.
You
know
this
is
what
you
would.
What
I
think
colleen
is
talking
about
the
white
duke
cannon.
A
I
guess
when
I'm
when
I'm
talking
about
exposure,
is
that
and
we'll
get
more
into
this
tomorrow-
is
that
you
take
the
great
materials,
the
great
the
great
art,
the
great
philosophy
you
take,
that
from
all
cultures?
That's
part
of
that's
part
of
living
in
a
complex
world
and
we're
gonna
push
we're
gonna
talk
about
tomorrow
at
at
nine.
A
I'm
gonna
talk
about
the
context
that
I'm
using
to
conceptualize
this,
which
is,
you
know,
basically
know
where
you
come
from,
but
you
also
have
to
know
another
culture
outside
your
own
with
some
some
depth
and
then,
when
you
do
that,
you
can
then
start
to
get
into
conversations
with
other
people
about
sort
of
creating
commonalities
and
a
type
of
of
you
know
cosmopolitanism.
A
So
I
definitely
do
not
want
to
have
a
situation
or
be
part
of
an
institution
where
we
are
mandating.
You
will
read
these
ten
books
and
these
10
books
are
the
things
that
you
know
are
the
great
books
and
the
rest
of
them
don't
count.
A
A
An
organizational
framework
that
allows
us
to
to
have
an
incredible
amount
of
rigor
allows
us
to
to
be
a
place
where,
if
a
person
just
wants
to
do
the
great
canon
you
know
just
wants
to
do
the
great
books
and
come
up
with
their
list
that
that
faculty,
that
group
of
faculty
or
that
faculty
member,
that
they
have
the
flexibility
to
do
that.
A
But
I
also
want
the
flexibility
for
faculty
and
for
students
who
say
you
know
if
I
look
at
the
knowledge
sure
I
need
to
know
about
sort
of
the
the
traditions,
intellectual
traditions
that
that
that
my
culture
is
a
part
of,
but
you
know
I
really
also
want
to
branch
out,
and
I
want
to
have
a
basic
understanding
of
something
that
it's
very
different
than
my
own,
and
you
know
for
me
growing
up
in
vermont.
You
know
I
spent
a
lot
of
time.
A
You
know
studying
christianity
and
judaism
and
christian
theology,
but
then
you
know
in
college.
I
spent
a
lot
of
time,
I'm
taking
courses
in
buddhism
and
confucianism
and
other
types
of
of
philosophy,
and
not
only
studying
you
know
european
history,
but
also
studying
asian
and
latin
american
history
too,
and
all
those
actually
that
type
of
flexibility
really
informed
me
about.
You
know
how
the
world
kind
of
functions.
A
That's
within
the
social
science
and
the
humanities
perspective.
We
also
have
to
have
a
situ
a
system
that
allows
people
to
find
the
tools
that
are
going
to
be
useful
for
them
in
terms
of
their
lives.
A
For
me,
that
was,
you
know,
finding
out
about
system
dynamics
and
some
computer
modeling,
but
I
found
that
in
my
late
20s
and
30s,
and
I
wasn't
back
in
school,
I
had
to
sort
of
cobble
together,
not
courses,
but
you
know
knowledge
through
books
to
to
see
how
important
computer
modeling
had
become.
A
I
wish
that
there
had
been
something
like
a
planner
around
for
me
because
it
would
have
been
really
worth
it
for
me
to
spend
500
to
a
thousand
dollars
to
take
a
course
on
system
dynamics
and
stella
with
someone
who,
actually,
you
know,
knew
how
to
u,
who
knew
how
to
use
those
programs
and
rather
than
just
having
to
read
books
by
danella
meadows,
who
was
a
big
person
in
that
field.
A
A
Okay,
all
right
now
I've
been
I'm
gonna
go
back
and
unshare
the
screen.
B
A
A
player,
no
classics
definitely
have
value
just
want
to
ensure
there's
flexibility
for
more
exposure
sounds
like
that.
Flexibility
exists.
Absolutely
the
flexibility
exists.
Let's
see,
okay,
I
think
that's
it.
If
you
have
a
question,
please
feel
free
to
shoot
me
a
message
and
I'll
do
my
best
to
answer
it,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
and
we'll
see
you
later.