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Agriculture and Rural Affairs Commitee — 2023/09/07
Date: Thursday, September 7, 2023
Location: Ben Franklin Place, The Chamber, Main Floor, 101 Centrepointe Drive, and by electronic participation
F
We're
good
thank
you
good
morning.
Everyone
and
welcome
for
our
agriculture
rule
Affair
committee
meeting
this
morning.
September,
7th
and
I
know
that
in
the
last
three
days,
hopefully
the
kids
went
back
to
school
and
life
is
going
back
to
normal
and
I
know.
We
send
you
some
extra
nice
heat
to
finish
the
summer
with
it.
So
we
appreciate
you
coming
here
on
a
hot
day
and
for
the
people
who
join
us
online.
Welcome
and
thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us
this
morning.
F
I
would
like
to
begin
by
acknowledging
that
this
meeting
is
being
held
on
an
unseated,
anishinabi
al-condron
territory.
The
people
of
the
anishinabi
Alcorn
Nation
have
lived
on
this
territory
for
Millennia
their
culture
and
presence
have
nurtured
and
continue
to
nurture
this
land.
I
will
ask
our
community
coordinator
to
have
a
look
of
this.
B
F
Thank
you
very
much
this.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
Zoning
boil
amendments
listed
as
item
4.3
on
today's
agenda
for
the
item.
This
mentioned
the
only
who
made
oral
submission
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted,
May
appeal,
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
land
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
May
appeal
the
matter
to
the
ontario-like
tribunal.
F
Number
two
on
our
agenda
this
morning,
any
Declaration
of
Interest.
F
F
4.1.
We
have
an
Omnibus
official
plan
Amendment
and
we
do
have
a
two
motion
on
that
on
a
report
before
we
discuss
the
report
and
read
the
final
recommendation,
so
I'll
actually
read
the
recommendation.
F
So
we
have
two
motion:
one
is
by
councilor
ruloff
and
one
by
councilor
Brown.
We
also
have
a
delegation,
but
before
we
move
to
the
delegation
we
probably
read
the
Motions
you
to
see.
If
there
is
Satisfaction
by
the
delegates
on
it,
we
know
what
we
are,
because
we
did
some
Amendment
to
the
carp
airport,
so
we'll
I'll
start
with
councilor
lulav.
To
read
his
motion,
please
cancel
your
love.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
chair
where's,
the
official
plan
approved
in
2022,
including
the
village
of
Greeley
secondary
plan,
with
an
area
specific
policy
intending
to
prevent
severances
for
minimum
lot
sizes
that
are
consistent
with
the
past
severances
on
Lots,
fronting
on
both
Cedar
Acres
Drive
and
stanmore
Street,
and
whereas
the
village
of
Greeley
secondary
plan,
Section,
5
area,
specific
policies,
policy,
one
reads
in
order
to
recognize
local
context
on
Lots,
with
Frontage
on
both
Cedar
Acres
Drive
and
stanmore
Street,
the
city
May
permit
New
Lots
for
residential
purposes
on
private
Services.
C
C
New
lot
creation
through
the
consent
to
sever,
to
be
at
least
0.18
hectares
in
size,
therefore
be
a
resolved
that
the
agricultural
rural
Affairs
committee
recommend
that
Council
approve
an
amendment
to
the
Village
of
Greeley
secondary
plan,
Section
5
policy
1
by
replacing
0.2
hectares
with
0.18
hectares
as
the
potential
minimum
permissible
lot
size
to
align
with
other
property
sizes
in
the
area.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr,
chair
and
committee
and.
F
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilor
ruler
for
the
next
motion.
It's
moved
by
councilor
Brown
concerning
the
carp
airport,
so
councilor
Brown.
F
E
Thank
you
chair,
whereas
at
the
planning
committee
meeting
of
February
27
2023
City
Planning
staff
were
directed
to
prepare
a
series
of
Omnibus
reports
relating
to
different
Amendment
categories
and
whereas,
since
the
February
27
2023
planning
committee,
meeting
staff
have
identified,
amendments
attached
is
document
one
city-wide
and
urban
amendments
and
document.
Two
rural
amendments
therefore
be
resolved
that,
with
respect
to
report,
ACS
2023
Pi
EDP
0015
city
council
approved
the
amendments
to
document
2
as
set
out
in
Annex.
One
attached
to
this
motion
held
on
file
with
the
city
clerk.
F
Thank
you,
councilor,
Brown
and
I
know
before
we
move
forward
with
this.
We
have
a
delegation.
Mr
Winters
is
online
Mr
Winters.
We
have
also
staffed
to
answer
any
question.
I
have
Robin
in
the
gallery
here
and
a
band.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here
with
us
this
morning.
So
Mr
Winters.
If
you
are
you
happy
with
the
motion
or
do
you
like
to
you,
can
go
ahead
with
your
delegation.
G
Good
morning
Mr
chair,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I've
read
the
motion
and
I'm
just
here
to
monitor
to
make
sure
that
it's
passed.
That's
it
and
that's
all
so.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
I'm
happy
with
the
motion.
As
drafted.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
want
to
give
you
the
opportunity-
and
we
appreciate
you
being
here
with
us
this
morning-
is
that
motion
carried
carried
and
can
we
carry
the
whole
report
carried
as
I'm
Edmund
carried?
Thank
you
perfect,
so
move
to
Ford.
Thank
you
very
much
Robin
and
them
we
moved
to
another
4.2
rural
community
building
Grant,
and
we
have
a
motion
on
this-
that
the
agricultural
Affair
committee
approves
the
recommendation
on
the
rural
community
building
grant
program
application
as
detailed
on
document.
One
and
I
will
ask
counselor.
F
E
F
Thank
you,
counselor
Brown,
any
question
concerning
the
motion.
Just
to
clarify
there
is
a
two
application
from
the
Metcalf
Community
Association.
There
is
delay
on
the
signage
because
they're
both
the
application
is
with
our
city
staff
and
the
department
is
very
busy
and
the
material
will
back
order
and
we
need
to
fulfill
those
those
application
so
we're
just
giving
them
enough
time,
so
they
don't
have
to
wait
till
December
to
go
ahead
with
their
next
application.
F
If,
if
as
of
counselor
Brown
in
section
A
and
B,
they
provided
the
proper
paperwork,
so
we
can
move
forward.
So
can
any
question
on
the
motion?
Can
we
get
it
carried?
Thank
you
and
carry
the
whole
report
as
Amendment
carried.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
We
have
4.3
zoning,
Amendment,
147,
long
staff,
Drive
and
anomaly
lands
and
those
are
just
kind
of
we
already
passed
this
file
and
the
last
era.
These
are
just
some
other
staff
told
us.
There
will
be
some
kind
of
clarification
and
follow-up
report,
which
is
that's
what
we're
doing
right
now.
There
is
no
presentation,
no
allocation,
no
correspondence
and
we
have
our
staff
online.
If
there
is
a
question,
but
the
straightforward,
we
have
Mr
Adam,
Brown
and
Sarah's
also
on
here.
F
So
if
we
have
any
question
a
report
recommendation
one,
the
agricultural
Affair
committees
recommend
Council
approve
and
amendment
to
zoning
bylaw
2008
to
50
for
part
147
long
staff
drive,
as
shown
on
document
one
to
permit
a
portion
of
a
residential
subdivision,
as
detailed
in
the
document
too,
and
to
the
agricultural
referee
committee
approve
the
consultation
details
section
of
this
report.
We
include,
as
part
of
brief
explanation
and
a
summary
of
written
and
oral
public
submissions
to
be
prepared
by
the
office
of
the
city
clerk
and
submit
it
to
council
and
a
report.
F
Titled
summary
of
oral
and
written
public
submissions
for
items
subject
to
the
planning
act.
Explanation
require
environments
at
the
city
council,
meeting
of
September
13
2023,
subject
to
submissions
received
between
the
application
of
this
report
and
the
time
of
cancel
decision.
Any
question:
can
we
carry
that
report
all.
F
You
very
much
we
have
no
end
camera
item
and
there
will
number
six
if
I
didn't
miss
anything
so
far,
I'll
ask
but
Kelly
were
good.
So
far
we
will
move
to
open
session
Mike
and
we
have
two
delegation
this
morning
we
have
Mr
Ken
Holmes
and
we
have
a
Bruce
fanjoy,
fromatic,
Village
and
Community
Association,
and
we
got
five
minute
and
I
know
that
we
received
presentation.
F
A
Okay
next
slide,
please
good
morning,
Mr
chair
we're
here
today
representing
the
rural
Transportation
solutions
group,
basically
at
the
request
of
your
committee.
That
asks
us
to
keep
you
up
to
date
on
our
on
our
survey,
I'm,
assisted
today
by
my
colleague,
Susan
corvila,
who
will
be
here
to
to
help
with
questions
and
discussions
in
particular
survey
number
three.
We
started
in
March
of
this
year
to
better
Define
the
rural
Transportation
needs.
A
We've
received,
356
responses
in
English
and
French
participants
have
been
from
all
five
rural
Awards
and
we've
heard
from
residents
of
25
Villages.
This
morning
we
will
highlight
the
patterns
of
rural
Transportation,
who
would
benefit
from
more
Transportation
options
and
what
are
some
of
the
impediments
to
moving
forward
next
slide.
Please.
A
Participation
of
the
survey
has
been
primarily
by
adults
and
seniors
with
adults
comprising
70
percent
Youth
and
Young
Adult
Transportation
needs
can
differ
significantly
from
the
other
populations
and
they
are
underrepresented
in
the
survey.
It's
worth
noting
that
the
national
capital
region,
origin
destination
study
does
not
survey.
The
youth
needs.
A
We're
working
to
gain
more
input
on
the
the
youth
front,
with
the
assistance
of
the
rural
Ottawa
youth,
Mental,
Health
Collective.
You
may
recall
from
an
earlier
presentation
that
rural
youth
identify
the
lack
of
Transportation
as
their
number
two
problem.
A
Lack
of
transportation
for
our
youth
and
young
adults
can
have
a
long-term
impact
on
the
rural
communities
through
phenomenon
that
the
academics
call
thinning
out
when
the
youth
find
that
they
have
not
the
the
transportation
opportunities
to
get
into
the
city,
they
move
into
the
urban
area
for
education
and
employment,
and
that
move
is
often
permanent.
A
A
Our
findings
are
similar
to
The
ongoing
origin
destination.
Study
survey
indicates
the
top
four
purposes
for
travel
for
shopping
work,
Recreation
and
health
care
on
the
top.
Four
destinations
are
outside
the
ward
to
the
nearest
Village
downtown
and
within
the
ward
next
slide.
Please,
this
graph
shows
the
distribution
of
the
time
of
travel.
Green
is
outgoing
from
the
rural
area
and
blue
is
returning
a
home.
A
The
pattern
is
similar
again
to
the
origin.
Destination
series
activity
level
during
the
daytime
would
likely
be
higher
if
we
had
more
participation
in
the
survey
by
youth.
The
data
demonstrates
the
significant
needs
for
transportation
throughout
the
day.
Next
slide,
please
about
25
percent
of
those
surveyed
stated
that
they
used
OC
transpose
service
to
some
extent.
A
A
Some
two-thirds
said
they
would
use
public
transportation
if
it
were
available
and
if
it
were
reliable.
The
desire
to
use
public
transportation
decreases
with
the
distance
to
the
pickup
points.
There
is
twice
the
interest
if
the
drive
to
a
park
and
ride
is
one
kilometer
as
opposed
to
10
kilometer.
We
believe
that
every
rural
Village
should
have
a
park
and
ride
next
slide.
Please,
regarding
a
reasonable
bus
fare
the
chart
at
the
upper
right
shows
preferences
for
the
degree
of
cost
sharing
between
the
Rider
and
the
general
taxpayer.
A
A
A
Next
slide,
please
in
briefest
of
summary.
What
are
the
patterns
of
use
of
Transportation
Solutions
must
provide
transportation
service
throughout
the
day,
not
just
during
the
peak
hours
and
additionally,
the
service
needs
to
recognize
the
increased
flow
of
workers
to
the
rural
area,
as
opposed
to
just
from
the
rural
area,
who
would
benefit
the
breadth
of
the
beneficiaries
or
improved
transportation
in
the
rural
areas
quite
well
identified
in
our
existing
rural
equity
and
inclusion
lenses.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
We've
assembled
outlines
of
that
original
2002
Proposal,
with
updates
from
the
systems
of
the
transportation
staff,
and
we
intend
to
send
them
to
all
the
rural
counselors
and
to
ask
each
rural
counselor,
specifically
whether
the
proposals
that
were
made
in
2002
but
not
implemented
are
still
Fallon
well.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
Next
slide.
Please.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
Holmes,
and
you
went
away
over
the
five
minute,
but
because
the
will
of
the
committee-
and
we
ask
you
to
come
back-
and
we
appreciate
the
work
that
you
do
with
your
group
and
your
team,
of
course,
as
a
volunteer
in
the
community.
We
appreciate
the
work
you've
done
and
we
highlight
that
very
highly.
So
that's
why
we
gave
you
extra
time.
I'm
gonna,
see,
there's
there's
questions
around
here.
I
saw
counselors
Kelly's
hand.
E
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Holmes
we
haven't
met
formally,
but
David.
Brown
I
represent
the
area
just
south
of
you
and
councilor
Kelly
apologizes
that
he
couldn't
attend
in
person
and
stick
around
to
ask
the
question,
but
he
has
asked
if
I
post
this
directly
to
you,
Mr
Holmes,
have
you
spoken
to
rural
businesses
and
their
need
for
transportation
to
have
employees
come
out
to
the
rural
area,
as
you
spoke
about,
instead
of
just
going
into
urban
Ottawa,
and
he
specifically
lists
the
Corporal
Corridor
businesses.
E
Would
these
be
I,
guess
a
segment
of
the
business
population
that
would
benefit
from
enhanced
rural
service
or
rural
service
if
they
currently
lock
it.
A
Yes,
I
work
with
the
the
Corporal
court
or
bla,
basically
over
the
last
three
plus
years
when
we
started
some
of
the
earlier
work
on
Rural
transportation
and
they
they
certainly
are
very
vocal
in
the
need
to
get
Workers
out
to
the
rural
area,
and
one
of
the
biggest
impediments
is
that
they
don't
have
the
transportation.
A
The
The
Proposal
that
the
Bia
has
been
making
is
that
there
be
an
extension
of
the
service
from
the
Stittsville
area
to
get
prospective
workers
out
to
that
Bai.
Bia.
We've
specifically
mentioned
that
in
in
parts
of
our
study,
and
it's
not
unique
to
the
the
carp
Road
court
or
Bia.
It's
it's
common
to
other
bias
and
also
to
the
rural
area.
A
We've
heard
examples
where
small
farmers
were
very
interested
in
getting
youth
out
into
the
rural
area
to
work
during
the
summer,
but
the
youth
simply
can't
get
out
there
so
that
that
is
a
problem
and,
like
I,
say
one
of
the
the
main
points
that
we've
made
in
the
the
major
routes.
The
the
peak
hour
routes
is.
We've
got
to
ensure
that
we're
looking
at
the
transportation
in
both
directions.
Now
that
has
not
been
characteristic
of
the
current
design.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
Council
Brown
and
I
see
no
other
question.
I
appreciate
the
work
and
thank
you
very
much
for
presenting
to
us
and
we'll
keep
working
with
you
and
your
group.
Thank
you.
Mr
wrong
and
you're
welcome
to
be
here
with
us
in
the
committee
this
morning.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
and
next
Open
Mic
session
we
have
nice
visitors,
I,
see
Bruce
fanjoy
from
Village
Community,
Association
and
Grace.
Also
she's
here
with
us.
This
morning,
I
haven't
seen
her
in
a
long
time,
she's
very
familiar
with
this
Gallery.
F
She
is
the
former
president
of
the
magnetic
Community
Association,
it's
so
nice
to
see
both
of
you
here
this
morning
and
welcome
back
and
I'm
happy
to
the
committee
is
happy
to
hear
from
you.
You
have
a
great
counselor
who
support
and
work
with
you
closely.
So
I'll
give
you
you
have
five
minutes
for
a
presentation
and
if
we
need
to
extend
the
time
there
is
no
problem,
also
so
feel
free
to
take
your
time.
Thank
you.
B
Great,
thank
you
very
much
as
thank
you
George,
for
that
introduction.
I'm,
basically,
here
to
introduce
Bruce
who's,
been
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
the
second
round
of
our
transportation
or
our
truck
study.
Some
of
you
may
remember
the
last
time
we
did
this,
which
would
have
been
2021,
so
we've
got
an
update.
We
wanted
to
share
with
the
members.
B
D
Thank
you
thank
you,
counselor
Brown,
for
for
your
assistance
with
this
and
then
thank
you,
councilor
geruse,
and
also
to
counselor,
kids
and
and
counselor
who
were
who
are
with
us
for
this.
This
presentation
we
we
did.
First
of
all,
this
is
not
just
a
Mantic
issue.
D
This
is
an
issue
that
that
affects
the
the
entire
South
South
area
of
the
city,
because
the
the
trucks
that
come
through
come
through
magnetic
also
travel
through
other
other
populated
rural
areas
of
the
city.
So
we
want
to
stress
that
as
well
as
it
affects
not
just
the
residents,
but
also
visitors
to
manateek
and
businesses
in
magnetic
we
undertook
a
a
study
of
of
truck
traffic.
D
The
we
wanted
to
understand
what
was
happening
in
Mantic,
particularly
on
on
Bridge
Street,
where,
where
there's
the
the
river
crossing,
but
it
also
ties
in
with
Mantic
Maine
as
well
I'm
sure
most
people
here
are
quite
familiar
with
with
where
that
is,
but
I'll
just
say
that
it's
right
in
the
heart
of
a
village
in
in
in
South
Ottawa,
the
the
truck
study
happened
over
two
weeks
in
August.
This
is
very
fresh
data.
D
It
was
done
in
two
locations,
one
that
at
Bridge
in
Maine,
where
we
did
50
hours,
10
hours
per
day
from
7
A.M
until
till
5
p.m.
On
on
each
weekday,
so
we
got
five
days
and
got
a
very,
very
good
pattern
of
what's
Happening.
We
also
did
it
did
the
same
study
at
at
Vimy,
because
we
wanted
we
wanted
a
comparable
and
Vimy
is,
is
comparable
just
because
it's
it's
what
has
been
used
in
the
past.
D
It's
a
it's
a
purpose
built
Bridge
for
for
larger
volumes
and
larger
larger
types
of
vehicles,
but
it's
not
the
only
Crossing
that
is
available,
Hunt
Club
is
also
is
also
available.
The
417.
it's
we
would
just
like.
We
understand
that
trucks
need
to
get
across
the
city.
We
would
like
to
like
routes
to
be
planned
to
minimize
potential
conflict
with
with
the
residents.
D
Our
our
vision
at
the
mvca
is,
is
Zero
fatalities
and
zero,
life-changing
injuries
on
our
streets.
That's
what
we're!
That's!
What
we're
striving
for
I
I!
Think
that
that
that's
that's
well
within
within
the
possibility,
with
with
some
changes
we
have
more
than
in
the
10
hour
stretch
between
7,
A.M
and
and
5
p.m.
We
were
counting
almost
a
thousand
heavy
trucks.
Now
these
are,
this,
doesn't
include
any
any
Civic
Vehicles,
it
doesn't
include
buses
or
garbage
trucks.
D
These
are
the
the
largest
of
trucks,
often
tandem
vehicles,
and
so
you
know
when
you,
the
the
traffic
starts
as
Grace
would
know,
because
she
lives
very
near
nearby.
The
intersection,
the
the
truck
traffic
starts
well
before
7,
A.M
and
and
really
doesn't
stop.
D
So
so
those
are.
Those
are
very
big
numbers.
You
know
over
over
one
big
truck
every
minute.
Seven
percent
of
those
trucks
climb
up
onto
the
sidewalk,
and
you
know
that
that
is
a
startling
startling
figure
that
that
reveals
a
system
problem,
not
merely
an
occasional
bad
driver,
and
it
just
comes
down
to
the
the
trucks,
are
too
large
for
the
space
that
they're
trying
to
to
occupy
The
Bridge
Street
is
a
is
a
two-lane
Community
Street,
as
as
compared
to
Vimy,
which
has
six
six
Lanes.
D
D
So,
in
our
study
we've
we
found
that
in
the
10-hour
period
almost
a
thousand,
it
was
precisely
967
heavy
trucks,
and
this
I
should
also
clarify.
No,
this
is
not
local
truck
traffic,
so
we
we
trucks
that
were
were
smaller
and,
and
you
know,
landscapers
and
and
such
we
purposely
excluded
them.
Every
village
needs
needs
deliveries,
but
so
this
these
are
the
heaviest
trucks.
967
went
through
magnetic
and
and
507
went
across
Vimy,
so
that's
roughly
roughly,
that
might
be.
D
Sorry,
so
what
we
have
is
a
situation
where,
where
almost
two
times
the
heavy
traffic
is
squeezing,
through
an
area
one-third
the
size
and
where,
where
it
passes
between
two
retirement
homes,
often
we
have
we
have
seniors
who
have
relations
relationships
across
the
road
and
and
they're
very
vulnerable.
D
It
passes
through
a
community
safety
zone
in
front
of
an
elementary
school,
and
it's
just
exceptionally
well
designed
for
something
to
go
horribly
wrong
and
we're
trying
to
get
ahead
of
that,
and,
and
that's
why
we're
here
next
slide
please
so
this
is.
D
This
is
a
compare
comparison
of
the
two
sites,
so
you
can
see
on
the
left
is
Bridgette
Maine
much
much
tighter
Road
space
compared
to
Vimy
on
the
right
which,
which
is
is,
is
more
properly
designed
for
this
heavy
traffic
Vimy
has
as
much
less
pedestrian
traffic
as
well.
It's
not
really
a
location
where
pedestrians
go,
whereas
pedestrians
that
and
cyclists
that
at
Bridgette
Maine
are.
D
Are
there
every
day
next
slide,
please
so
here's
here's
a
routine
event
in
in
manatech.
This
is
a
large
truck,
I
I.
Remember
this
moment
it
was
a
tandem
vehicle.
So
a
tandem
tracker
tanker
and
it
it
climbed
the
sidewalk.
This
happens
approximately
70
times
per
day
in
the
daylight
hours.
This
woman-
you
can't
see
it
here,
but
this
woman
had
to
step
back
out
of
the
way
as
as
this
truck
was
was
crossing,
and
you
know
that
that
is
it's.
D
It's
it's
dangerous,
it's
fundamentally
dangerous.
The
truck
could
could
could
hit
someone
particularly
a
senior
and
and
not
even
know
it.
So
this
is
a
long-standing
issue
and
we're
we're
hoping
to
have
cooperation
and
support
from
Council
to
to
to
address
it
next
slide,
please
so
one
one
proposal,
that's
on
the
table
is
a
it's.
A
truck
study
focused
on
on
South
Ottawa,
and
we
we
are
in
support
of
that.
D
D
It
needs
to
be
a
priority
in
the
budget
and
I
understand
that
that
the
budget
process
is
is
underway
right
now,
some
things
will
will
cost.
Some
will
require
some
funding
and
that
that's
money
well
spent,
and
so
we
would
ask
for
for
for
support
in
in
the
budget.
The
Senate
think
of
priorities,
we're
looking
for
reclassification
of
the
of
the
streets
in
the
core
of
banatech
to
be
for
local
traffic.
Only.
D
There's
there's,
you
know,
we
think
that
that's
that's
entirely
possible
and,
and
it
would
in
fact
be
impossible
to
to
avoid
trucks,
climbing
climbing
sidewalks
with
the
status
quo,
so
so
we're
working
on
that
we're
working
on
that
with
with
the
counselors
and
and
we're
hoping
hoping
for
support
in
that
we're.
D
Looking
for
for
a
speed
camera
in
the
community,
Safety
Zone
on
Bridge
Street
that
that
will
that
will
help
to
calm,
calm
traffic
there
we
had
another
another
Collision
this
past
week,
I
read
details,
I
didn't
get
details,
but
I
think
it
was
multiple
Vehicles
involved.
But
someone
wrote
me
back
and
and
told
me
another
story:
I'll
tell
you
enough
about
another
collision
and
it
changed
changed
to
local
families
lives
forever.
D
So
we
have.
We
have
the
ability
to
change
that
moving
forward
and
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do.
There
are
86
400
seconds
in
a
day
and
and
every
tragedy
happens
in
one
of
those
seconds
precisely
zero
seconds
are
dedicated
to
to
our
most
vulnerable
users
at
that
intersection,
that
being
pedestrians
and
and
cyclists.
So
we
observed
right
now,
there's
of
course,
vehicles
and
trucks
can
turn
right
on
green.
D
Of
course,
they
also
have
a
green
arrow,
but
when
the
leg
turns
red,
they
have
a
a
right
turn
on
red
and
we
observed
that
it's
it's
normal
for
for
vehicle
traffic,
not
to
stop
and
frequently
they.
They
take
the
red
right
turn
at
speed
and
that's
that's
a
well-known
way
for
people
to
to
to
get
hurt.
D
So
we
want
to
to
create
some
some
time
that's
dedicated
to
to
vulnerable
users,
Advanced
pedestrian
and
cycle
signals
I'd
like
to
thank
the
city
for
installing
an
advanced
pedestrian
light
at
Van
Vleet.
D
The
community
recognizes
that
that's
good
and
that's
made
that
intersection
safer
we'd
like
that
to
go
across
across
Bridge
Street
and
also
at
River
Road
and
Bridge
Street.
We
have
there's
an
issue
North
and
South.
I
believe
where,
where
visibility
is,
is,
is
a
problem
for
left
turning
traffic
and,
and
that
was
raised
with
the
community
as
requiring
requiring
chains.
But
that's
that's
everything
that
I'd
like
to
say
and
we'll
be
happy
to
answer
questions.
F
Thank
you
very
much
Bruce
and
the
the
reason
we
gave
you
extra
time
because
we
understand
and
as
a
rural
counselor
the
challenges
we
have
on
our
road
and
we
appreciate
the
work
that
Manatee
Community
as
village
community
sessions
been
doing.
I
know
this
has
been
long
time.
Conversation
and
I
know
this
is
a
lot.
F
So
it's
it's
very
complex
file
and
I,
and
you
know
that
and
the
previous,
the
previous
member,
the
executive
reward
collectively
on
it
since
I
got
elected
and
I
know
this
historical
issue
and
and
I
know
that
you
have
a
great
counselor
that
he's
been
working
with
the
Community
Association
since
he
also
got
elected
so
I'm,
not
gonna
hug.
All
the
time
on
the
question
I
know
I'm
well
aware
of
the
file
and
the
work
you've
been
doing.
F
We
appreciate
it
and
thank
you
very
much
for
you
and
your
executive
board
and
the
Community
member
also.
This
is
a
very
not
an
easy
subject,
and
this
is
not
an
easy
topic
to
talk
about,
but
I
want
to
highlight
and
appreciate
all
the
work
you
guys
been
doing.
I'm
gonna
ask
her
I
know
we
have
a
counselor
kit,
have
questions
and
I'll,
let
counsel
Brown
to
the
end.
So
if
that's
okay
with.
H
I
know
you
said
that
it's
not
just
a
matter
to
guess:
yeah
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
engaged
at
all
with
other
community
associations
in
other
rural
villages,
to
hear
sort
of
what
they're
saying
about
truck
traffic
because
I'm
my
old
configuration
my
award
had
five
rural
Villages
now
I'm
down
to
two,
but
in
every
single
one,
I
feel
like
truck
traffic
has
been
brought
up
as
a
a
significant
issue.
H
Typically,
the
trucks
will
pass
right
through
the
heart
of
the
Village,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
you've
had
any
engagement
with
other
Villages
around
the
city.
D
Yes,
I
I
was
delighted
when
I
found
out
that
Ken
Holmes
was
going
to
be
presenting
here
this
morning
as
well,
because
I
have
been
engaging
with
with
the
rural
Transportation,
Solutions
and
and
truck
traffic.
D
Does
heavy
truck
traffic
does
come
up
and
and
I
understand
that
it's
it's
an
issue
wherever
it
happens,
I
think
what
what
what
sets
the
issue
apart
in
manateek
is
the
the
sheer
volume
I
I,
don't
think
any
any
other
community
in
the
in
the
southern
part
of
the
city
is,
is
dealing
with
a
thousand
heavy
trucks
during
daylight
hours
on
on
on
a
street
that
that
they
can't
stay
on
and
they
have
to
climb
the
sidewalk.
D
So
I
think
this
is
an
extraordinary
issue
that
requires
requires
a
solution,
but
you
know
we're
we're.
We
don't
want
anyone
to
get
hurt
anywhere.
B
B
H
Okay,
great
thank
you.
Yeah
I
mean
this
is
more
of
a
something
for
perhaps
me
to
take
back
to
staff,
but
I
am
wondering
what
the
traffic
counselor
like
in
other
Villages
I,
see.
Counselor
Lou
lost
hands
up,
Cumberland
Village
is
close
to
the
ferry,
so
it
has
a
significant
volume
of
truck
traffic.
So
perhaps
you
know
strategy
for
Rural
Villages
is
needed
holistically,
but
I
really
appreciate
your
presentation.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
Yeah
counselor
kids
is
right.
Cumberland
Village
in
the
East
End
experiences
massive
amount
of
truck
traffic
at
all
hours
of
the
day
because
of
its
proximity
to
the
ferry.
C
It's
it's
really
the
only
Crossing
other
than
say
Hawkesbury
at
the
East
End,
where
these
heavy
trucks
could
come
by
I
would
I
would
recommend
that
you
know
we
take
a
a
broad
approach
to
this
and,
if
you'd
like
you
can
reach
out,
you
can
reach
out
to
my
office
we'd
love
to
get
you
in
touch
with
that
with
the
Cumberland
Community
Association,
their
incredible
president,
Todd
Smith
I'm
sure
would
be
very
pleased
to
chat
and
collaborate
with
you
I
think
that
we
can
all
work
together
on
on
a
solution
to
this.
C
C
Time
prior
to
amalgamation,
quite
a
bit
of
talk
about
a
Southern
route
around
the
city
and
the
region
would
always
shoot
it
down.
This
renewed
talks
of
this,
given
the
exponential
growth
happening.
C
C
G
C
90
degree
turns
that
that
you
know
you're
that
you're
talking
about
here
at
Bridge,
Street,
I,
know
I,
know
the
intersection
really
well
you're
right
to
point
out
that
we
probably
all
know
it.
Manatee
Villages
is
gorgeous.
We
all
love
all
love
to
visit
save
time.
There
are
quite
a
few
people
that
have
to
live
there
every
single
day
and
experience
this
daily.
So
really
really
appreciate
you
coming
out
today.
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
we
can
do
together
to
make
all
of
our
rural
Villages
safer.
E
Thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
proposing
those
questions,
and
certainly,
as
the
chair
has
indicated,
the
mvca
has
always
been
a
leader
on
this
issue
and
has
put
in
significant
time
and
effort
multiple
times
to
gather
the
data.
That's
required
and
I.
Think
that
really
says
something
about
the
Community
Association.
You
don't
just
bring
an
issue.
E
You
also
try
to
bring
the
data
and
then
potential
Solutions
and
that's
always
appreciated
fantastic
advocates
for
the
village
of
manatec
and
very
pleased
to
have
been
working
with
each
and
every
one
of
you
over
the
past
few
months.
Recognizing
that
many
of
these
specific
questions
I
rose
that
the
transportation
committee
were
awaiting
the
response
from
staff
and
I
know
you're,
following
along
with
that,
specifically
though
I'd
like
to
make
it
clear
and
I'm,
hoping
that
either
Grace
or
Bruce
you
can
respond.
D
The
no
it's
not
you
know,
trucks
provide
an
important
service
to
every
Community,
so
we
absolutely
any
truck
that
has
has
a
a
a
purpose
to
be
in
in
Mana,
taking
the
core
of
the
village
in
order
to
to
you
know,
build
build
houses
or
deliver
supplies
to
to
our
our
businesses
or
to
move
residents.
It's
those
are
absolutely
welcome,
and
you
know
this
is
specifically
about
through
truck
traffic.
D
In
in
our
study,
we
we
found
that
most
most
of
the
traffic
was
was
heading
in
one
of
two
two
directions:
it
was
Bridge
Street,
westbound,
turning
turning
North
on
on
manatec,
Main
or
Mantic,
or
sorry,
Magic,
southbound
and
again
southbound
turning
East
on
Bridge
Street.
Both
of
those
directions
are
indicative
and
consistent
with
through
truck
traffic
rather
than
than
local
deliveries.
D
B
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
that
I
think.
The
other
point
is
that
there's
probably
better
ways
to
get
those
trucks
moving
across
the
city.
I
think
when
the
original
truck
route
was
established,
they
were
looking
at
finding
ways
that
were
most
efficient
and
at
the
moment
it
appears
that
Mitch,
Owens
and
Bridge
Street
seems
to
be
the
most
efficient
because
of
the
backlogs
on
Hunt
Club.
The
inability
to
access
Earl,
Armstrong
strand,
heard
easily
for
a
lot
of
trucks.
B
So
we
recognize
that
they
face
some
challenges
and
for
them
time
is
money,
so
they're
looking
for
the
quickest
way
to
get
across
the
city
in
the
South
End
and
at
the
moment
that
seems
to
be
through
the
village,
which
is
not
ideal.
I'm
sure
most
of
them
are
very
unhappy
with
having
to
navigate
that
very
tight
intersection,
particularly
some
of
the
wide
loads
and
extra
long
loads
as
well.
E
E
Guess
my
last
question
to
you
and
then
I
just
one
comment
after
chair:
would
the
mvca
and
the
community
support
a
time
of
day
restriction
to
help
lessen
that
burden
during
those
daylight
hours,
because
one
thing
that
you
included
in
your
presentation
Bruce
was
that
you
started
counting
truck
traffic
from
7
A.M
to
5
p.m,
and
you
saw
the
data
that
you
were
able
to
collect,
which
means
on
both
sides
of
those
times
before
you
started
and
after
you
finished,
there's,
theoretically,
more
trucks
still
going
through
the
village.
E
D
Yes,
that
that
would
be
beneficial.
You
know,
I
think
you
know,
as
you
attack
a
big
complex
problem
like
that
there
are.
There
are
some
big
things
that
you
can
do
and
and
we
need
to
work
on
those,
but
we
we
also
can
ship
away
at
the
problem,
and
those
are
things
that
are
that
are
easier
to
do
sooner
and
well.
Well,
you
know
things
like
a
a
new
ring.
D
Road
will
will
help
the
the
fact
is
that
that
those
those
types
of
solutions
are
are
well
down
into
the
future
and
we're
looking
for
for
something
that
that
that
makes
makes
the
community
safer
for
the
children
at
Magic
public
school,
not
their
children,
so
so
I
think
an
overnight
an
overnight
time
of
use
restriction
would
would
certainly
help
people
sleep
at
night.
We've
got
the
the
seniors
on
both
sides.
D
E
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
would
say
chair
that
mayor
Sutcliffe
came
out
two
weeks
ago
and
met
directly
with
the
Community
Association.
We
stood
at
the
corner
of
Bridge
in
Maine,
so
the
mayor
could
see
firsthand
and
I
think
it
was
a
very
productive
meeting
that
we
had
with
the
mayor
also
I
believe
it
was
the
first
time
since
amalgamation
that
a
mayor
of
the
city
of
Ottawa
was
out
to
the
Village
to
undertake
that
work
firsthand.
E
F
Thank
you,
counselor,
Brown
and
I
know
for
your
continuing
effort
on
working
on
the
solution
and
thank
you
again
for
the
magnetic
ability
committee
Association
on
behalf
of
my
resident,
that
they
live
half
of
in
manatech
and
my
magnetic
side.
We
thank
you
and
we
appreciate
all
the
work
I
I
do
have
you
mentioned.
You
brought
up
a
great
point
and
we
talk.
F
It's
been
very
strongly
recommended
and
we've
been
talking
to
our
MPP
to
making
sure
because
those
it
costs
a
lots
of
dollars
and
there
are
very
expensive
project
and
I'm
hoping
I
know
that
Council
brand
and
I
will
keep
talking
about
a
project
like
that,
and
hopefully
we
can
with
the
work
that
the
mvca
and
the
numbers
and,
of
course,
because
that's
going
to
eliminate
not
only
issues
in
Manatee
again
like
Grace
mentioned
Metcalf,
the
the
dynamic
and
the
demographic
in
our
Villages
is
changing
and
truck
route
truck
are
very
important
element
in
our
life,
but
also
there
is
some
of
elimination.
F
C
F
This
is
all
for
our
open
mic
and
I
I'd
like
to
highlight
and
mention
agricultural
effort
committee
is
the
only
committee
have
that
those
Open
Mic
session,
which
is
we
enjoy
them,
because
we
can
be
able
to
talk
and
communicate
with
our
community
associations
and
the
volunteer
in
our
community
to
bring
issues
specifically
for
rural
area
and
I,
encourage
all
our
listeners
that
online
or
our
community
to
keep
the
hard
work
and
to
let
you
know
that
this
is
your
sounding
board
here
you
can
come
here
to
welcome
and
we
can
listen
to
you.
F
We
give
you
the
time,
so
you
have
the
audience
of
all
the
rural
counselors
in
front
of
you,
our
number
seven
notice
of
motions
for
consideration
at
subsequent
meaning
we
don't
have
any
number
eight.
We
have
inquiries
and
I
think
councilor
Brown
have
two
of
them,
so
go.
E
Ahead:
counselor
Brown.
Thank
you
very
much
chair
just
by
happenstance
I
have
an
inquiry
for
staff
on
Rural
Transit,
so
Mr
Holmes
you've
really
set
the
stage
for
me
today.
I'll
just
read
it
out
here,
chair
and
I'll
forward
it
to
the
coordinator
after
to
disseminate
the
CD
staff.
It
says
here,
given
that
Transit
staff
are
currently
undergoing
a
review
to
optimize
ottawa's
transit
system
with
staff
and
transit
services
or
legal
services,
be
able
to
provide
information
for
the
following
questions.
Number
one.
E
Therefore,
can
staff
respond
to
the
questions
below
number
one?
What
is
the
cause
of
the
backlog
number
two:
how
many
files
from
infrastructure
agreements,
development
applications,
Rural,
severances
and
other
cases
that
require
oversight
by
the
municipality
are
backlogged
number
three?
How
long
does
it
take
for
these
files
to
work
their
way
through
the
legal
standard
processing
time
prior
to
the
pandemic,
compared
to
now
how
many
Agreements
are
generated
through
the
legal
department
per
week?
Can
the
city
send
some
of
these
applications
to
an
external,
firm
or
firms
to
expedite
the
processing
of
the
backlogged
files?
E
Six,
how
does
the
legal
department
determine
which
external
law
firms
can
assist
with
these
types
of
backlogs
seven?
Can
staff
outline
the
selection
process
used
to
retain
an
external
Law
Firm
eight?
What
are
the
costs
of
retaining
an
external
Law
Firm
to
assist
with
these
types
of
backlogs
number?
Nine?
How
are
these
costs
recovered
and
number
10?
Do
staff
require
the
intervention
of
committee
or
Council
to
improve
the
situation?
Thank
you,
chair.
F
Thank
you
counselor
Brown,
and
we
appreciate
your
inquiry
and
I'm
sure
you'll
get
an
answer
to
that
number.
Nine.
Do
we
have
any
other
business
there
is
none
and
meeting
is
adjourned.
Thank
you.
Very
much
is
at
10
58
and
our
next
airac
meeting
will
be
Thursday,
October
5th.
Hopefully
we'll
see
you
then
thank
you
very
much
have
a
great
day.