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Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee meeting - June 6, 2019 - Audio Stream
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A
A
That's
true,
and
also
our
congratulations
to
our
colleague,
Scott
Moffat
on
his
newborn
was
this
morning
early
this
morning,
so
yeah.
So
that's.
Why
he's
not
here
Scott,
so
I
didn't
ask
sorry
I
didn't
ask
but
I
didn't
ask,
but
our
I
know
he
beat
their
moody.
Derek
has
four
kids
and
Scott
has
five
now.
So
that's
that
was
the
statement
to
me
this
morning.
Good
morning,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Eli
auction
theory
I'm.
A
The
chair
of
the
agricultural
affairs
committee
like
to
call
our
meeting
to
order
for
Thursday
June
6
2019
declaration
of
interest,
confirmation
of
minute
minute
meeting
of
April
for
2019
of
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
we
do
have
a
statement
to
read.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
much.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposal
comprehensive
official
plan
and
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
all
I
can
seven
nine
to
13
on
today's
agenda.
A
For
the
item
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
writing
submissions
before
the
amendment
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
at
peer
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
might
appeal
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
at
pre
tribunal.
If
counsel
does
not
adopt
the
amendment
within
hundred
fifty
days
after
supriya
of
the
application
for
zoning
and
210
days
for
an
official
plan.
A
We
do
have
item
number
on.
We
have
a
presentation
from
our
friends
and
call
it
from
Winchester
and
district
Memorial.
Hospital
will
hold
this
item.
Item
number
two
respondent
and
deferred.
That's
the
amendment
to
the
engineer
and
report
for
van
gaal
municipal
drain
I
believe
we
will
hope
so.
Council
Gower
can
move
amendments
as
well.
C
A
A
All
right
item
number
three
status,
update,
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee
inquiries
in
motion
for
the
peers,
ending
18,
April,
2019
I,
don't
believe
we
have
any.
So
the
agricultural
affairs
committee
received
this
report
for
information
on
the
item
received.
Thank
you
item
number.
Four
is
K
at
K
and
L
petition.
Appointment
of
engineer
so
also
will
believe
we
have
a
speaker
for
item
four
will
hold
item
for
item
number
five
commemorative
naming
proposal
for
in
McDonald
pavilion.
D
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Also.
We
have
the
item
six
commemorative
name,
a
proposal
for
Clarence
muscle,
ball,
diamond
and
I
want
to
congratulate
council
Drew's
working
with
the
with
the
muscle
family.
They
have
a
long
history
in
in
in
our
community
and
Oscars,
so
Thank
You
councillor
ruse
for
the
recognition
I'm
the
item.
Okay,
thank
you
item
number.
Seven,
zoning
bylaw
amendment
cannabis
production
facilities,
I
believe
we
have
speaker
no
speakers.
E
A
A
You
don't
need
to
speak
right
mr.
Jeon,
or
do
you
like
to
speak
your
like
to
speak?
Okay,
I
will
hold
item
seven
there.
Thank
you
item
number.
Eight
rural
residential
land
survey
2017-18
update
their
that
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee
received
this
report
for
information
on
the
item
received.
A
We
included
as
a
part
of
on
the
item.
Okay,
thank
you
item
number
10
zoning
bylaw,
3250
old,
George
Street.
They
already
named,
and
next
Street
after
George
DeRosa,
yes,
item
number
1,
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee
recommends
council
approved
an
amendment
through
zoning
bylaw
to
zero
zero.
Eight
two:
five
zero
four:
three:
two:
five:
zero:
all
George
Street
to
permit
a
site-specific
zoning
amendment
as
a
detail
in
document
to
item
two,
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee,
approved
the
consultation
detail.
A
A
Thank
you
item
number
12
again:
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
4205,
Nixon,
Drive
and
Oscar
item
number
1.
The
agricultural
fair
committee
recommend
Council
approved
an
amendment
of
zoning
bylaw
2
0
0
8
2
5
0
4,
4,
2,
0,
v,
Nixon
drive
for
the
purpose
of
rezoning,
a
portion
of
the
lands
from
agriculture,
sub-zone
3,
AG
3
to
agricultural
subs
own
787,
to
prohibit
residential
uses
on
retained
farmland.
As
detailed
in
a
document
to
item
number
2.
The
agricultural
affairs
committee
approved
the
consultation
details.
A
Are
you
and
mineral
aggregate
reserve
zone
exception,
7
Mr
to
rural
residential
zone
exception,
rural
residential
zone
exception
to
our
an
rural
residential
zone,
exception,
Korea,
an
open
space
zone,
zero
one
facilitate
and
the
development
of
the
conservation
subdivision,
and
that
Planning
Committee
approved
the
consultation
details
section.
If
this
report
be
included
as
a
part
of
the
prefix
planation
in
summary
of
written
or
oral
public
submission
and
the.
B
A
So
we
do
have
a
speaker
but
I
believe
the
speaker
is
in
agreement.
Mr.
bill
Holtzman
are
you
here?
Are
you
an
agreement?
If
we?
If
the
committee
carries
this
item,
sir,
all
right
on
the
item?
Thank
you
and
mr.
Holton.
Thank
you
for
attending
our
meeting.
You
don't
need
to
speak
now.
You
can
take
care
of
that.
A
We
don't
have
in
camera
meter,
but
we
have
information
previously
distributed
that
the
Ottawa
rule
of
clean
water
program,
2018
annual
report-
and
we
receive
those
information
see
we
do
have
a
new
item
or
additional
item
I
think
counselor,
the
ruse.
Maybe
we
can
deal
with
that
item
right
now,
because
I,
don't
believe,
is
controversial.
So
this
item
in
the
past
was
it's
called
bylaw
2013,
one,
nine,
nine,
temporary
all-terrain
vehicle
and
other
vehicles,
I'm
gonna.
If,
with
the
with
the
committee's
agreement,
we
can
we
can.
A
B
B
The
trail
system
identify
and
temporary
bylaw
staff
are
required
to
report
back
to
Iraq
with
an
evaluation
of
the
pilot,
and
where
is
the
ward,
councillor
and
staff
continue
to
work
with
ATV
and
snowmobile
clubs
to
determine
whether
shared
use
and
continuation
of
the
trail
system
is
feasible.
Given
maintenance
and
operational
challenges
City
the
city
in
this
past
winter,
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
the
bylaw
be
extended
until
December
1st
2019
to
facilitate
issues,
resolutions
between
stakeholders
and
allow
staff
to
report
back
to
Iraq
with
a
recommendation
in
November
2019.
B
A
First,
one
before
I
can
move
this
motion
I'd
like
to
add
my
comment
on
being
someone.
Who's
been
working
on
this
from
from
day
one
and
even
before,
2013
there's
quite
a
bit
of
interest
in
the
rural
area
working
together
and
that's
why
we
choose
Oscar
to
be
the
pilot
project,
but
more
and
more
we're
seeing
the
lack
of
cooperation
actually
in
our
area,
the
ATV
they
ticketed
if
they
are
on
a
snowmobile
trail,
and
we
need
to
find
a
way
have
those
folks
working
together
before
this
pilot
project
be
come
to
an
end.
A
So
I
echo,
your
sentinel,
console
and
I
hope
we
can
find
a
way
we
can
all
work
together
on
this
one
because
the
rest
of
the
sea,
the
rural
area,
are
waiting
to
see
what
this
pilot
project
gonna
be
come
up
with,
so
on
emotion,
on
an
extension
of
the
pilot
probe:
okay,
okay,
thank
you
very
much
constant
disease.
So
go
now
to
our
first
item,
which
is
the
presentation
on
Winchester
and
district
Memorial,
Hospital
and
I'd
like
to
call
mr.
A
C
You
very
much
my
name
is
Charlie
Boland
I'm,
the
president
and
CEO
of
Winchester
hospital,
as
you
probably
know,
as
I'm
sure
you
do.
Winchester
is
a
rural
and
agricultural
community
that
shares
a
municipal
border
with
via
city
of
ottawa,
and
the
hospital
is
actually
a
resource
that
serves
many
residents
of
the
city
of
ottawa,
predominantly
and
counselor
can
uses
ward
and
we
have
a
lot
of
interaction
with
councilor
de
Roos,
but
also
our
patients
come
from
throughout
the
city.
C
So
my
to
my
intent
today
is
just
simply
to
inform
you
and
let
you
know
what
we're
doing
for
many
of
your
residents
and
a
bit
more
about
the
hospital
and
invite
you
at
any
time.
If
you
have
any
questions
or
comments,
please
give
us
a,
please
feel
free
to
contact
us.
So
the
title
is
WD
mates
pride
because
I'm
gonna
blithely
talk
about
good
things
and
things
we're
very
proud
of.
C
First
day
for
our
Hospital,
the
thing
that
pervades
it
is
our
commitment,
our
commitment
to
our
community
to
the
patients
we
serve
and
our
commitment
to
making
the
hospital
one
of
the
best
ever
best
anywhere
we're
committed
to
our
patients
to
serve
them
with
compassion,
either
buy
or
sell,
or
in
conjunction
with
community
agencies
or
other
hospitals.
Like
the
Ottawa
Hospital,
we
pursue
excellence
in
everything
we
do
and
all
this
is
focused
on
providing
compassionate
excellence.
C
Here's
a
snapshot
of
the
thousands
of
Ottawa
residents.
We
serve
each
year
through
a
variety
of
services.
We
have
comparatively
short,
wait
time
so,
as
I
say
in
many
specialties,
so
a
lot
of
people
come
from
Ottawa
to
provider
to
access
our
services,
predominantly
from
the
south
end,
but
literally
from
throughout
the
city.
C
One
of
the
most
difficult
questions
I
have
or
trickiest
questions
I
have
is
how
many
people
work
at
the
hospital
and
I'd
say.
Probably
quite
a
few
commute
from
the
city
of
Ottawa.
We
have
our
paid
staff.
We
have
predominantly
doctors
who
are
paid
by
the
government
and
OHIP.
We
have
volunteers
who
aren't
paid
directly
and
we
have
quite
a
few
students
and
trainees,
so
all
in
all
five
six
hundred
people
at
the
hospital
and
again
quite
a
few,
come
from
the
city
of
Ottawa
there's
some
of
our
stars,
but
just
a
few
of
them.
C
C
The
other
is
to
collaborate
and,
if
you're,
aware
of
us
all
in
the
news,
these
Ontario
health
teams
are
just
the
latest
version
of
collaboration
within
healthcare.
Just
like
there's
a
single
tax
payer.
There's
a
single
patient
who
often
has
to
get
access
from
a
variety
of
services,
and
certainly
the
hospital,
plays
a
lead
role
in
making
sure
that's
as
cohesive
as
possible.
We
serve
two
people.
I
just
told
you
about
the
six
or
seven
hundred
people
who
divided
a
dynamic
workplace
does
they
can
provide
services,
the
people
we
serve
and
were
quite
accountable.
C
We've
had
13
consecutive
years
of
balanced
budgets,
which
is
a
rarity
and
in
health
care
and
public
service.
So
we're
quite
proud
of
that.
I
have
a
hospital
in
Ontario.
Has
an
external
company
that
monitors
and
surveys
its
patient
satisfactions
that
so
the
hospital
can't
be
seen,
is
cooking
the
books
or
manipulating
the
data
and
we're
quite
proud
of
the
results
we
have
and
we
get
it
every
three
months,
it's
quite
high
and
again
this
is
not
the
hospital.
This
is
an
external
company.
C
Obviously,
in
the
eyes
of
the
people,
we
serve
the
patients,
we're
doing
a
lot
of
the
good
things
that
all
said.
This
is
not
to
suggest.
We
think
we're
anywhere
at
least
close
to
perfect.
Even
in
the
hundred
percent.
We
do
make
mistakes,
we
can
make
improvements
and
we
welcome
any
type
of
input,
any
type
of
communication
that
tells
us
where
we
could
do
better,
but,
as
I
said
in
the
eyes
of
the
people,
we
serve
we're
doing
quite
well
and
we're
quite
proud
of
it.
C
Some
more
of
the
stars,
one
of
our
secret
weapons,
which
is
some
secret,
and
it's
not
really
a
weapon
either
is
we
have
we
started
with
a
community
of
patients
just
a
few
years
ago
to
tell
us
how
we're
doing
it
was
easy
to
do.
You
know,
put
some
papers
in
front
of
them
and
say
you
know
we're
we're.
Writing
these
things
to
send
to
our
patients,
help
us
make
them
more
understandable,
but
these
patients
actually
now
help
us
develop
new
services.
They
help
us
in
our
ethics.
C
They
help
us
put
together
things
like
strategic
plans,
and
you
can
see
some
of
the
things
we
do
here.
It's
really
important
that
as
much
as
we're
in
and
around
patients-
and
we
have
these
thousands
of
surveys
and
all
that
type
of
thing
is
to
get
the
patient
voice
and
we've
moved
actually
having
from
a
single
patient
committee
if
you're
familiar
at
all
with
hospitals.
You
know
we
have
all
kinds
of
committees,
and
now
we
have
patients
on
every
single
committee.
C
In
the
last
many
years
now,
not
just
several
years.
Government
funding
hasn't
been
what
it
used
to
be,
and
in
spite
of
that,
you
know
government's
no
longer
come
along
to
hospitals
and
say
here's
a
big
fat
check
start
a
new
program,
but
we've
still
been
able
to
add
services.
We
have
an
inpatient
program
where
people
often
seniors
who
have
take
somewhere
between
20
30
40
medications.
C
Each
day
they
come
in
and
in
a
very
gradual
and
supervised
method,
we
can
take
them
off
some
of
those
medications,
long
term
and
that's
fewer
interactions
and
a
much
better
state
of
health.
So
that's
one
of
the
services
we
will
services,
we
provided
restorative
cares
where
seniors
are
in
their
home
and
maybe
it
seems
like
they're
ready
to
be
go
to
retirement
or
a
long-term
care
home,
but
maybe
with
two
or
three
weeks
of
activity:
physiotherapy,
good
nutrition-
that
can
be
delayed
by
six
or
seven
months.
We
have
a
program
like
that.
C
C
Yet
we
have
a
research
program
that
we
started
about
four
years
ago
and
the
whole
idea
is
for
real
medicine
to
make
sure
we're
doing
things
well
and
if
we
are
doing
things
well,
we'll
publish
and
tell
the
world
and
if
we
can
figure
out
how
to
improve
things,
we'll
do
that
first
and
publish
and
tell
the
world
so
that
I
could
put
on
pages
and
pages
of
our
projects.
Some
of
them
are
just
how
to
better
speak
to
fit
patients,
how
to
best
treat
children
and
youth
who
have
mental
health
issues.
C
It
come
into
our
rural
er,
where
we
don't
have
a
psychiatrist
on
staff
and
that
type
of
thing,
and
it's
allowed
us
to
attract
some
funding.
Also
just
a
few
other
things.
A
few
years
ago,
our
maternity
program
was
identified
as
the
number
one
in
Ontario
we've
since
slipped
to
two
or
three
I
think,
but
it's
still
the
number
one
in
in
the
region.
C
We
surveyed
our
physicians
using
a
survey,
that's
used
by
all
other
hospitals
in
Ontario
a
couple
years
ago,
and
it
turn
our
physicians
are
the
most
engaged
and
satisfied
if
any
of
those
hospitals
that
use
that
survey
we
are.
We
have
a
chemotherapy,
a
cancer
care
satellite
of
the
Ottawa
Hospital
and
many
smaller
hospitals
in
the
province.
Have
these
satellites
of
the
large
centers.
Ours
is
the
largest
in
Ontario.
What
that
means
is,
if
someone
comes
to
us
and
they
have
a
diagnosis
of
cancer,
we
have
the
practice.
C
We
have
the
skills
to
provide
as
high
a
standard
of
cancer
care
as
any
other
facility.
In
Ontario
we
have
several
medical
buildings,
one
of
them's
called
a
Community
Care
building.
We
have
many
tenants.
There
were
somewhat
one-stop
shopping
in
Winchester
area.
We
have
on
the
campus,
we
have
a
hospital,
we
have
a
long-term
care
home,
we
have
mental
health,
counseling,
physicians,
offices,
physiotherapy
laboratory,
outpatient
and
several
other
services.
I
mentioned
earlier.
C
Our
financial
stability
and
we're
also
one
of
the
largest
computer
centers
within
a
hospital
in
Eastern
Ontario
within
our
computer
center
we've
housed
services
and
applications
and
systems
that
serve
all
of
Eastern
Ontario.
There's
some
a
couple
quite
key
applications
once
called
eConsult
and
one's
called
e
referral,
could
save
doctors
playing
telephone
tag
to
try
and
get
additional
services
for
their
patients
and
that's
housed
in
Winchester.
C
We
also
have
right
next
door.
As
I
mentioned,
we
have
a
long-term
care
home.
That's
ancient
was
built
40
years
ago
and
looks
like
it
was
built
80
years
ago,
and
we've
been
in
the
process
of
trying
to
get
government
approval
to
build
a
new
one.
We
actually
have
some
land
and,
as
you
can
see,
that's
the
campus
as
it
exists
now
and
in
the
green
is
where
we're
going
to
have
our
new
home
about
10%
of
those
clientele
come
from
the
City
of
Ottawa.
C
A
B
Thank
you
mr.
chair,
thank
you
very
much
Shirley
for
being
here
this
morning.
I
know
that
we
always
have
discussion
and
talking
about
serving
our
community,
but
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that,
on
behalf
of
our
community,
specifically
people
in
Metcalfe
and
all
Osgood
world,
we
thank.
We
thank
the
Manchester
Memorial
Hospital.
Always
they
always
give
us
good
service.
B
I
know
they
look
after
our
community
and
we're
very
happy
with
the
service
that
your
your
your
facility,
the
hospital
and
your
professional
staff
and
I
know
that
most
of
the
volunteers
also
I
do
have
lots
of
volunteers
from
my
community.
They
come
out
and
volunteer
so
and
I
know
from
personal
experience.
You
serve
our
community.
You
serve
our
family.
B
You
serve
me
personally
because
when
I
had
this
agreement
with
a
chainsaw
I,
remember
a
couple
years
ago
that
you
looked
after
me
very
well
so
on
behalf
of
our
community
and
the
resident
of
the
city
overall,
we
thank
you
for
all
the
service.
You
do
not
only
on
the
hospital
side
also
on
the
dentist's
side
that
the
long
term
facility
that
we
have
and
then
we
work
collectively
together.
B
F
Anecdotally
I'm
in
the
West
End
of
Ottawa,
it's
fill
Canada
and
we've
heard
from
the
hospitals
and
Carlton
place
in
Almonte,
for
example,
who
are
seeing
more
and
more
residents
from
suburban
areas
of
Ottawa
using
their
emergency
facilities,
in
particular,
I'm
just
curious.
If
you're
seeing
a
similar
thing
in
the
south,
then
you
know
more
suburban
or
residents
who
are
using
the
services
at
the
Winchester
hospital.
C
F
A
A
A
A
F
Morning,
Dave,
we
had
correspondence
to
the
committee
from
mr.
Ken
McRae
and
he
had
mentioned
some
discrepancies
and
some
of
the
background
reports
in
specifically
to
hobbs
municipal
drain
was
one
of
the
issues
I
wanted
to
know.
If,
if
those
maps
how
material
those
discrepancies
might
be
to
the
report
that
we're
being
asked
to
well
that
we're
looking
at
today
and
if
any
changes
might
need
to
be
made
before
this
goes
to
Council.
So
through
you,
mr.
D
Chair
there,
the
the
drain,
he
was
referring
to
it's
it's
the
location
plan
and
the
staff
report
he's
referring
to
the
drain.
That's
outside
the
watershed,
we're
not
dealing
with
the
Hobbs
drain.
In
this
report
it
was
just
there
kind
of
a
reference
to
show
where
it
is
in
location
to
the
actual
drain
which
of
the
van
gaal
drain.
So
it's
not
relevant
per
se.
To
this
to
this
report,
it's
a
different
drain
altogether.
Okay,.
F
A
D
A
F
A
A
A
G
It
was
changed
to
a
section
65
and
the
engineer's
report
was
tabled
in
2016
this.
The
engineer
identified
many
problems
with
the
infrastructure,
all
the
way
down
to
the
railway
on
NCC
lands
and
the
city
decided
they
had
to
do
a
section,
78
report
to
address
the
viability.
The
pictures
you're
seeing
up
there
on
the
screen
as
the
kanata
north
Business
Park,
which
is
what
is
where
the
main
main
damage
can
be
done
and
the
pictures
that
are
showing
the
flooding
show
you
how
much
flooding
there
is
just
with
existing
conditions.
G
G
This
is
a
map
which
shows
the
entire
the
entire
system
you
can
see.
There
are
quite
a
few
tributaries,
except
for
the
one
that's
running
across
the
top
left
on
our
diagonal
that
Shirley's
Brook
and
that's
where
they're
trying
to
bring
water
into
the
hizzle
system.
That
system
goes
all
the
way
up
to
the
Ottawa
River
and
is
influenced
by
the
Ottawa
River
water
levels.
So
any
flood
plain
mapping
or
studies
that
have
been
done
may
be
out
of
date
now
because
of
the
2019
flooding.
G
Staff
report
objective
is
to
provide
legal
and
sufficient
outlet
for
KNL
phases.
Seven
and
eight
KNL
right
now
has
legal
outlet,
because
the
top
of
the
drain
is
there.
The
top
part
is
the
water
course,
but
they
don't
have
sufficient
outlet
into
the
drain
and
phase
seven
and
eight
all
they
need
is
to
connect
to
the
beaver
pond
so
that
they
can
get
to
the
to
the
drain.
The
the
MFE
NVC
a
flood
plain
mapping
says
that
K&L
wants
to
split
the
flows.
G
G
Originally
to
the
Walter
Bo's
municipal
drain,
which
hasn't
been
abandoned
and
they
need
to
identify
downstream
cat-channel
characteristics
and
any
changes
made
or
plan
to
downstream
infrastructure.
The
problems
identified
in
it
by
the
section
65
engineer
there
are
identified,
and
there
is
also
a
list
I've
provided
that
later
in
my
presentation,
which
I
won't
be
putting
on
the
screen.
G
The
list
of
infrastructure
changes
since
then,
which
are
making
the
currently
in
process
section
70
report
unreliable
and
unless
they
address
those
changes
and
will
and
will
also
impact
the
ability
of
the
section
10
engineer
to
do
the
work.
Then
they
have
to
decide
whether
to
recommend
the
diversion
and
extension
and
identify
drainage
works
and
identify
costs.
It's
very
likely
to
be
high,
because
section
65
was
has
already
identified.
G
This
map
is
showing
you
more
more
details
on
on
the
flooding.
It's
showing
you,
the
from
the
beaver
pond
right
down
to
the
little
arrow
there
on.
The
left
is
showing
the
area
where
the
part
of
the
problem
is
is
caused
by
the
new
channel
being
put
in
and
not
closing
off
the
old.
It
resulted
in
the
March
put
a
pumping
station
in
the
marshes
village
flooding
in
2004,
the
other
one
is
Shirley's
Brook
and
there's
also
flooding
downstream
on
that
one,
and
that's
where
they're
supposed
to.
G
So
the
alternatives
that
I
see
it
there,
you
can
deny
the
request
or
you
can
defer
it
or
you
can
consider
abandoning
the
municipal
drain
the
banding,
and
it
would
be
a
good
idea
because
the
National
Capital
Commission
isn't
subject
to
the
drain
and
it's
also
a
sewage
system.
It's
not
not
a
dream.
Okay,.
F
G
G
There's
a
very
long
list,
which
I
said
I
wouldn't
show,
but
it's
some
there
is
that
that's
the
infrastructure
changes
it's
a
very
long
list
of
infrastructure
changes
and
there's
a
very
long
list
of
roads
and
that
are
overtopped
throughout
the
system,
all
the
way
down
to
the
Ottawa
River.
So
if
you
get
a
section
10
report
coming
in
and
saying
yes
well,
they're
not
going
to
look
at
that
part
of
it,
they're
just
going
to
look
at
what's
from
the
middle
drain
up
to
the
beaver
pond.
D
G
G
D
G
D
G
D
A
D
A
H
There
nowadays
Thank
You
counsel,
I'm
Colin
Brennan,
representing
the
National
Capital
Commission.
As
a
municipal
engineer,
to
provide
our
comments
on
this
petition.
The
NCC
has
been
working
with.
There
is
an
ongoing,
as
as
the
report
included
with
this
petition
indicates,
there
is
an
ongoing
drainage,
engineer's
report
in
process.
H
The
National
Capital
Commission
has
been
working
with
Andy
Robinson,
the
drainage
engineer
and
the
City
of
Ottawa
on
this
file.
It
is
quite
a
complicated
file,
given
the
complications
of
municipal
drains
in
federal
lands
and
given
the
technical
complications
within
the
water
course
there's
a
long
history
of
problems
that
the
NCC
has
been
studying
and
trying
to
remediate
for
the
past
20
years.
H
Given
that
context,
the
the
ongoing
work
would
be
disrupted
if
the
KL
petition
were
approved
at
this
time,
the
work
that's
ongoing.
If
it
were
completed
and
issued
to
Council,
then
this
petition
could
come
through
and
be
dealt
with
and
in
the
appropriate
timeline.
In
our
view,
given
that
the
National
Capital
Commission
requests
that
the
committee
defer,
the
KL
petition
request
for
a
preliminary
engineering
report
on
diverting
lands
from
Shirley's
Brook
watershed
into
the
Kissel
Creek
drain
and
Watts
Creek
watershed.
C
A
C
A
F
H
The
existing
there's
an
existing
study
that
affects
the
natural
drainage
to
the
Kissell
drain.
The
conclusions
of
this
study
include
outlining
defining
clearly
what
the
watershed
boundary
is
and
what
lands
are
serviced
by
the
kids'll
drain
and
which
lands
are
therefore
not
serviced.
Implicitly,
the
petition
now
involves
asking
the
question:
could
lands
that
do
not
naturally
drain
in
this
direction,
be
serviced
by
that
drain?
So
more,
you
know
there.
It
effectively
reopens
the
case
of
that.
H
The
current
engineer's
report
is
trying
to
close,
and
so
it's
a
bit
it's
a
confusing
scenario
to
before
the
current
report
has
been
completed,
to
say:
well,
should
it
could
it
be
changed,
of
course?
Well,
there
are
well,
you
know,
and
the
same
engineer
would
is
being
asked
to
work
on
both
files
as
well.
H
H
H
And
I
believe
folks
are
hoping
the
current
report
completed
before
that,
if
no
I
think
I
think
the
intent
is
that
it's
less
than
six
months
to
complete
the
current
report.
But
yes,
the
the
intention
and
the
involve
parties
to
my
knowledge
are
all
working
towards
getting
the
current
report
completed
in
a
timely
fashion.
I.
A
I
Thank
you
very
much.
My
name
is
Marcela.
Dynami
I
represent
all
right.
My
name
is
marcell.
Demi
I
represent
KL
I'm
here
with
Peter
dear
our
engineer
so
KL
through
the
originally
filed.
The
application
for
this
petition,
for
in
part
reasons
that
this
diversion
of
drainage
is
was
somewhat
approved
in
2006
through
an
OMB
report.
The
the
motivation
for
the
diversion
was
in
part
to
not
have
to
build
a
pawn
in
two
trillion
words.
Trillion
words
is
a
what
a
lot
that
sink
in
our
Lakes
I
was
always
proposed
to
be
maintained
as
a
woodlot.
I
So
now
we
do
have
our
ECA
for
the
phase.
Nine
four,
so
phase.
Seven
and
eight
is
the
next
step
for
us.
So
the
drainage
report
that's
ongoing
right
now,
I
guess
we
started
in
2016.
It
was
approved
by
this
committee
in
2016,
so
it's
taken
already
two
and
a
half
years.
It's
still
not
complete
current
state
right
now
is
that
as
I
understand
that
the
NCC
is
still
has
not
allowed
are
in
the
engineer
to
finalize
some
of
the
work
on
the
site,
so
they
can
go
on
site
to
do
some
geo
text.
I
So
so,
in
essence,
the
NCC
is
somewhat
the
part
of
the
cause
for
this
layer
in
finalizing
this
report.
So
all
we're
trying
to
do
right
now
is
then
sort
of
bring
on
phase
seven
and
eight,
which
is
the
next
phase
for
the
development,
and
what
this
will
do,
in
my
mind,
will
be
in
to
inform
the
engineer
as
to
the
impact
of
7:8
being
diverted
to
the
Kissel
Creek.
A
D
B
A
So
councillor
Meehan,
first
and
we'll
start,
you
have
some
question
for
staff,
but
maybe
mr.
Robinson
and
Dave
together,
or
maybe
our
legal
you
can
explain
to
the
committee.
This
is
a
preliminary
report
under
Section
10.
If
you
can
tell
us,
you
know
that
the
the
suction
tent
of
the
drainage
Japs
response
in
to
put
it
in
a
contact.
If
you
don't
mind
from
from
legal
perspective,.
D
D
D
J
Again
there
it's
a
legal
question
which
I'll
leave
there,
but
from
an
engineering
point
of
view,
what
we
we
are
looking
to
do
is
to
provide
a
solution
that
does
not
worsen
the
situation.
I
mean
it's
not
going
to
take
care
of
any
flooding.
That's
there.
Now
and
and
again
that
gets
into
a
legal
question
which
is
beyond
what
I
should
even
try
to
comment
on,
but
but
the
principle
is
to
come
up
with
a
solution
that
will
will
accommodate
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done
without
increasing
those
risks
or
liabilities
and.
D
F
D
D
A
F
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
whereas
report
I'll
say
where,
as
this
report
was
circulated,
to
staff
for
comment
in
accordance
with
the
standard
procedure,
and
whereas
the
legal
comment
in
the
legal
implications
section
of
the
report
was
not
incorporated
into
the
final
report,
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
the
comment
and
the
legal
implications
section
of
the
report
be
replaced
with
the
following.
There
are
no
legal
impediments
to
adopting
the
recommendation
in
this
report.
This
is
a
motion
to
create
to
correct
a
editing
error
on.
A
E
A
So
mr.
Dion,
you
have
five
minute
to
address
the
committee.
I
believe
you
know
the
file,
so
we
don't
have
to
give
you
background
on
it.
So,
on
the
item,
seven!
Okay,
if
you
press
your
button,
there's
a
button
says
push:
okay,
all
right!
No,
let's
just
touch
it.
The
touch
will
fix
it:
hello,
uh-huh,
okay,
it's
working
now:
okay,
hi.
E
We
are
looking
at
starting
a
demonstration
farm
to
raise
public
awareness
and
education
surrounding
cannabis,
how
the
zoning
has
been
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
a
setback
for
us,
with
the
NCC,
putting
a
policy
in
place
to
either
allow
or
disallow
people
to
grow
cannabis
on
federal
lands
in
Ottawa.
So
I
appreciate
you
guys
making
the
changes
that
were
required
in
order
for
this
to
happen
in
such
a
timely
fashion
and
there's
a
couple
of
things
once
these
changes
are
in
place
going
forward
that
I'm
looking
at
addressing
today.
E
E
Also,
we
can
we
compress
the
seeds
and
make
cold-pressed
hemp
seed
oil,
and
this
is
something
that
we
don't
require
any
licensing
for
at
this
point
now
in
the
fall,
the
cannabis
act
came
up
with
some
new
rules
that
allow
for
the
extraction
of
a
molecule
out
of
the
plant,
the
CBD
molecule
to
be
extracted,
it's
similar
to
this
oil
here,
but
it's
a
bit
a
little
bit
different.
So
for
that
we
need
a
processing
license.
E
Farmers
would
like
to
have
the
ability
to
process
the
hemp
for
the
CBD
oil
under
the
cannabis
act
on
the
firm.
The
reason
for
that
is,
it
is
not
logistically
feasible
to
ship
the
kind
of
biomass
off
of
the
farm
to
a
laboratory
that
is
not
equipped
to
handle
that
material,
because
a
hemp
crop
there's
a
lot
of
biomass
that
comes
off
of
the
field
and
the
farmers
need
to
be
able
to
process
that
in
the
field
to
a
certain
degree
before
they
can
ship
it
to
a
laboratory
for
further
refinement.
E
So
the
way
it
stands
right
now
we're
working
with
a
company
in
Ottawa
locally.
That's
retrofitting
shipping
containers
to
have
a
GMP
style
laboratory
which
would
be
in
alignment
with
the
federal
regulations
for
the
processors
license.
So
in
this
container,
we'll
have
a
lab
that
could
go
to
the
field
potentially
to
do
that
crude
extraction
before
sending
it
off
to
the
lab
in
the
city
for
a
further
refinement.
E
E
I'm
of
the
mind
that
it
should
be
on
the
farm
where
the
action
is
happening
to
refine
it
to
a
point
where
we
can
ship
it
to
the
laboratories
for
further
refinement,
because
we
can't
ship,
like
wagons
of
material
into
the
city,
to
a
laboratory,
that's
not
equipped
to
handle
it.
So
that's
the
industry's
problem
right
now,
I
think
they're,
one
of
many
problems
that
we're
facing
as
it's
being
developed
so
I
guess
it
would
be.
That
would
be.
E
A
D
Mr.
chair,
thank
you
in
terms
of
the
specific
zoning
on
in
this
specific
case.
We
need
to
consider
some
of
the
specific
information
about
the
type
of
activity.
Obviously,
the
city
regulates
land
use.
So
if
the
use
of
the
property
was
for
production,
it
might
require
different
zoning
than
if
it
was
just
outdoor
growing
of
cannabis
plants.
The
current
zoning
regulates
production
and
growing
separately,
so
there
might
be
a
zoning
issue
there.
D
If
production
activities
were
happening
on
a
on
a
farm
that
was
was
zoned
only
for
only
for
growing
uses,
so
we
would
invite
the
public
delegate
delegate
to
to
contacts
the
staff
if
he
has
questions
about
the
specific
zoning
on
his
site
and
we'd,
be
happy
to
work
with
him
to
understand
the
specific
issue.
I
think.
A
Mr.
Dion,
so
we
don't
have
to
have
it
back
and
forth
without
legal.
We
asked
a
question.
Perhaps
if
you
have
concern,
maybe
you
can
talk
to
our
legal
on
the
side
and
from
now
till
Council,
but
I
mean
really
what
you're
submitting
today
is
a
question
where
staff
they
can.
They
can
address
that
or
they
can,
but
if
can
maybe
have
question
for
mr.
Dion,
but
after
we
have
from
legal.
So
what
my
advice
you
can
meet
with
legal
and
talk
about
this
specific
question.
Hopefully
they
can
help
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
F
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee
recommend
to
council
to
amend
document
1b
details
of
recommended
zoning
as
follows:
number
1
amend
item
1
and
document
1
be
details
of
recommended
zoning.
So
it
reads
as
follows:
amend
section,
2,
1,
1,
1
C
by
adding
the
following
provisions:
cannabis
production
facility,
limited
to
outdoor
cultivation
and
greenhouse
cultivation
in
a
greenhouse
that
existed
as
of
the
date
of
the
passing
this
bylaw
number
to
add
the
following.
As
item
three
undocumented,
the
details
of
recommended
zoning
amends
section
240
exceptions
by
amending
exception.
A
Thank
You
mr.
vice
chair
and
that's
that's.
The
amendment
to
item
number
7
item
number
7:
that
agricultural
affairs
committee
recommend
council
approve
an
amendment
to
zoning
bylaw
to
0
0
8
through
5-0
to
permit
cannabis
production
facility
uses
in
Ag
and
ru
zoning,
as
detailed
in
document
1
be
detailed
and
recommended.
Zoning
on
item
unfree
fall
on
earth
amendment
carry
on
the
report
as
amended.
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much
folks
and
I
believe
that
we
conclude
our
final
item.
So
we
go
now
to
open
mic.
I,
don't
believe
somebody
registered
for
the
open
mic.
A
No
such
motion
for
consideration
a
sub-sub
meeting.
None,
we
didn't
have
any
inquiries,
we
don't
have
any
other
business.
Other
business
tomorrow
is
the
food
eighth
day,
and
this
is
a
fundraising
for
the
Ottawa
Food
Bank
and
we
have
a
barbecue
from
I
believe
from
11:00
to
2:00.
Ticket
is
$10
that
include.
Adele
include
works,
lunch
burger
with
the
soft
drink
and
chips
and
I
hope
you
can
join
us.
This
is
a
good
fundraising
for
our
food
bank
and
we
have
Milkin
competition,
and/or
championship
or
Olympic.
A
Whatever
you
want
to
call
it
I
want
it
more
than
once
so
George
the
ruse
is
dying
to
win
it
once
at
least
so.
I
hope
you
can
join
us
tomorrow
and
have
lunch
and
have
some
fun
supporting
the
food
bank.
With
that.
I
would
adjourn
this
meeting
for
agricultural
rule
affirmation.
So
I
need
a
motion
to
adjourn
so
move
on.
It's
a
vice
chair.
We
adjourn
the
Iraq.
Thank
you
very
much
folks,
and
then
we
have
we
open
a
meeting.
It's
called
quarter.
Provision
and
I
have
to
read.
A
This
Court
will
now
convene
for
the
first
sitting
of
the
court
revision
under
Section
4
6
of
the
drainage
earth.
There
have
been
no
appeal
received
by
the
clerk
my
correct
and
the
owner
of
land
assess
under
the
engineer's
report,
who
have
not
provided
written
notice
of
appeal
to
the
clerk
in
advance
of
the
hearing
should
identify
themselves
to
the
clerk
assistant
at
this
time
with
a
request
to
to
be
her
as
anyone
here
to
speak
about
the
O'keefe
drainage
report,
any
landowner
within
that
catchment
area
I
see
none.
Sir,
would
read
this.
A
So
since
we
have
none
so
at
the
conclusion
of
the
award
process
behind
this
court
adopted
the
assessment
at
in
engineer's
report
dated
November
2018,
the
decision
rendered
by
this
court
might
be
appealed
to
the
Agriculture
Food
and
Rural
Affairs
Appeal
Tribunal
within
21
days
after
day,
June
6
2007
odors
are
available
from
the
city,
drainage
superintendent,
which
is
in
this
case
mr.
Ryan,
and
the
extension
to
five
zero
zero
eight
and
the
phone
number
of
the
city's
number
five.
Eight
zero,
two
four
two,
two:
four
with
that
the
court
of
revision
exert
an
adjournment.