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Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee – October 5, 2017 - Audio Stream.
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A
So
counselor
Blaye
has
let
me
know
that
the
community
will
not
be
here
today.
So
it's
just
the
four
of
us
to
date.
So
declarations
of
interest
see
none
conformation
minutes
of
the
meeting
of
September
7th
2017
scary.
Thank
you.
So
this
is
a
public
meeting
to
discuss
sorry
to
consider
the
proposed
zoning,
bylaw
and
official
plan
amendments
lists
as
items
1,
2,
3,
&
5
on
today's
agenda
for
the
items
listed
above
only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today.
A
Our
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
Municipal
Board.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
Ontario
to
may
appeal
the
matter
to
deterrence
reward.
If
council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
with
in
120
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
zoning
and
180
days
for
an
official
plan
amendments,
a
comment
sheet
is
available
at
the
door
for
anyone
wishing
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments.
A
So
item
number
1
is
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
part
of
30
179
done
Robin
Road
in
West
Carlton
March,
the
head
Cultural
Affairs
Committee
recommend
council
approve
an
amendment
to
zoning
bylaw
2008
2
5
0.
For
part
of
3
1,
7
9
done
Robin
Road
for
the
purposes
of
rezoning,
a
portion
of
the
lands
from
agricultural
AG
1
to
agricultural
sub-zone,
6
AG
6
to
prohibit
residential
uses
on
the
retain
farm
land
as
detailed
and
document
2.
So
this
would
be
a
surplus
farm,
severance
application
and
2
that
echoes
real
Affairs.
A
Thank
you
item
number
two
is
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
part
of
one
one:
five,
six
Jenkinson
Road
in
Reno
Goulburn,
the
a
cultural
affairs
committee
recommend
council,
approved
amendments
to
zoning
bylaw
2008,
two,
five,
zero,
four
part
of
one
one:
five,
six
Jenkinson
Road,
also
known
as
Henderson
quarry
to
permit
mineral
extraction,
uses
and
recognize
additional
area
to
be
added
to
the
Huntley
provincially
significant
wetland
boundary
as
detailed
document
two,
and
that
the
agricultural
affairs
committee
approve
consultation,
detail
section
of
this
report.
So
this
is
just
a
expansion
of
existing
quarry.
A
It's
already
zoned
mineral
resource,
and
this
will
be
just
this.
Application
just
allows
it
to
extraction
actually
occur.
We
have
one
speaker
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
Tim
chatter,
from
jail.
Richards
understand,
Tim.
Wherever
you
are
where'd,
you
go.
Oh
you're
way
back
there
that,
if
that,
if
we're
prepared,
so
you
carry
this,
that
you
are
comfortable
with
not
speaking
all
right.
Thank
you.
So,
on
that
item
carried.
Thank
you
item
number
three.
Is
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
five,
seven,
two,
one,
five,
seven,
three
one
and
five,
seven
four
one
mansik
Main
streets.
A
A
B
You
mr.
chair
and
I
just
want
to
recognize
our
friend
from
North
Dundas
Mayor
Eric
Duncan
that
he
is
here
in
the
crowd
with
us
today
and
I
know.
We've
been
working
very
closely
with
you
on
lots
of
files,
but
I
just
want
to
recognize
that
you're
here
and
you're
welcome
to
agricultural
refer
committee.
We're
very
happy
to
have
you
with
us
here
this
morning.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
You
councillor
drusen,
thank
you,
your
worship
for
being
here
so
I'm,
scaried
I.
Remember:
five
is
revised
requirements
for
rural
coaches
and
private
services.
We
are
going
to
have
a
presentation
on
that
and
I
believe
there's
also
a
technical
amendments,
a
technical
motion
for
that
one
as
well
so
we'll
hold
that
item
we'll
come
back
to
that
after
item
number,
three,
so
back
time,
number:
three:
okay,
sorry,
there's
also
a
information
previously
distributed
that
adjustment
panel.
Three
reserved
appointments.
A
That
was
one
of
our
members
on
the
committee
of
adjustment
panel
3,
which
is
Fred
bark
I've,
stepped
down
and
he's
been
replaced
by
one
of
our
reserves,
which
is
Terry
Otto
all
right.
So
item
number
three:
is
the
zone
environment
for
five,
seven,
two
one:
five,
seven
three
one:
five,
seven
for
romantic
main
streets
and
I'll:
ask
Jeff
foster
Chuck,
who
is
the
lead
planner
on
the
file,
provide
a
presentation
on
the
item.
C
Reserve
Committee
mm-hmm
zoning
bylaw
amendment.
This
zoning
by
lemon
examines
the
appropriateness
of
his
owning
change
at
five
seven,
two
one,
five,
seven
three
one
and
five,
seven
four
one
manitech
main
mr.
chair
this.
This
amendment
was
filed
concurrently,
would
have
planets
subdivision
notice
of
the
approval
of
the
plan
of
subdivision
was
sent
and
the
city
received
an
appeal
on
September,
18th
2017.
We
acknowledge
the
possibility
of
this
zoning
amendment
also
being
appealed
and
recommended
moving
forward
with
consideration
of
this
report,
as
the
Ontario
board
prefers
all
matters
of
appeal
to
be
heard.
C
The
purpose
of
this
zoning
amendment
is
to
facilitate
the
development
of
a
draft
plan
of
subdivision.
The
subdivision
proposes
to
develop
the
site
to
accommodate
37
single
detached
dwellings,
including
five
waterfront
Lots
along
the
Rideau
River
and
the
reader
45
bungalow
townhouses,
and
a
park
block
the
site
is
currently
zoned
village,
residential
first
density.
The
zoning
amendment
addresses
the
proposed
mixed
of
residential
uses
and
requested
exceptions
to
put
to
the
provisions.
This
amendment
also
take
into
account
an
existing
single-family
dwelling.
C
In
recognition
to
the
autumn
view,
residents
and
the
commitment
to
locate
detached
dwellings
along
the
northern
part
of
the
site,
this
the
the
area
proposed
to
be
rezone,
dwell
B
to
v1.
A
this
sound
is
only
category
limits.
The
uses
to
detached
dwellings.
Further
an
exception
to
the
provisions
will
also
be
provided
for
an
increase
in
the
rear
yard
setback,
providing
a
greater
separation
distance
between
the
existing
and
proposed
dwellings.
As
for
the
existing
dwelling,
it
will
be
zoned
v
1a,
with
an
exception.
C
The
exception
is
required
to
address
or
to
adjust
the
provisions
to
recognize
what
already
exists.
Remainder
of
the
development
envelope
is
to
be
zoned,
B,
3
B,
with
an
exception
this
zone
will
provide
for
a
mix
of
residential
uses,
while
the
exception
to
the
provisions
provides
for
flexibility
in
the
building
style.
It
is
anticipated
that
the
range
of
mixed
uses
is
likely
to
include
townhouse,
bungalows
and
detached
dwellings
and
finally,.
A
C
A
no
one
zone
will
be
introduced
in
recognition
of
the
park
block
and
also
on
public
and
private
lands
within
30
metres
of
the
Rideau
River.
This
final
slide
details
the
zoning
amendment,
with
the
exceptions
highlighted
in
red
mr.
chair
this
zoning
amendment
has
been
examined
pursuant
to
the
provisions
of
the
Official
Plan
and
the
manitech
secondary
plan.
The
zoning
meets
the
prescribed
mixed
and
percentage
of
residential
units
and
minimum
density
targets,
as
set
out
in
the
manitech
secondary
plan.
A
A
No
sorry
so
just
to
be
just
to
be
clear
on
that.
The
the
appeal
to
the
OMB
is
based
on
the
draft
plan
of
subdivision,
and
we
are
I've
actually
already
met
with
the
appellant
on
that,
as
with
regional
in
the
city
and
we're
working
on
these
basis
of
that
appeal.
So,
yes,
this
application
for
zoning
could
also
be
appealed,
but
isn't
yet
being
appealed.
A
A
A
A
All
right,
it's
likely
not
necessary.
You
know
I'm
happy
to
speak
to
the
item.
Briefly
in
terms
of
the
opposition
that
we've
seen
the
fast
you
guys
can
sit
down,
sir.
So
this
is
something
that
we've
been
at
for
quite
some
time.
This
property
itself
was
highlighted
specifically
in
the
second
Mantic
secondary
plan
review
that
we
conducted
between
2013
and
2015,
which
was
finally
approved
in
january
of
2016,
and
we
we
touched
on
a
number
of
the
vacant
properties
within
manitech
as
to
what
they
could
be,
what
they
could
become.
A
The
applicants
actually
came
out
of
that
secondary
plan
review,
based
on
the
comments
heard
from
the
community
about
looking
for
a
development
that
was
more
in
line
with
seniors
a
place
where
seniors
could
go
and
live
and
sort
of
downsize,
but
stay
in
Mantic.
It's
something
that's
not
readily
offered
in
manitech.
This
application
is
very
similar
to
what
what
the
applicant
has
built
in
equal
EQ
homes,
development
equal
as
well
as
firming
crossing.
So
at
that
the
public
mean
that
we
held
in
in
January.
A
We
did
have
quite
a
bit
of
opposition
at
that
at
that
meeting
from
that
we
actively
worked
with
the
direct
neighbors
residence
on
calimary
residents
on
Island
View
to
do
our
best
to
address
the
concerns
of
those
communities,
I'm,
not
going
to
pretend
that
we
satisfied
every
single
concern,
because
that's
just
not
realistic,
but
but
we
did,
we
did
work
with
both
and
the
development.
The
application
that
you
see
today
has
been
altered
to
reflect
that.
So
it's
not
what
was
presented
to
the
community
in
in
January.
It's
been
altered
to
reflect
that.
A
So
there's
been
a
change
to
the
look
of
the
pump
station.
There's
been
a
change
to
the
accesses
on
to
Kelly
Marie
we've
moved
the
the
detached
dwellings
away
from
island
view
and
put
them
over
onto
Kelly
Marie,
putting
these
single
detached
dwellings
backing
on
to
island
view,
which
gives
them
a
greater
setback
from
the
rear
yards.
We
managed
to
preserve
working
on
preserving
the
greenery
along
the
backside
of
the
island
view
properties
just
a
couple
things
like
that.
A
There's
some
other
stuff
when,
in
terms
of
servicing
the
location,
the
force
may
not
being
in
the
road
allowance
on,
kill
him
or
he
would
actually
being
within
the
development.
These
are
all
things
that
we've
addressed.
That's
came
directly
from
that's
that
consultation
meeting
back
in
back
in
January
and
a
number
of
the
items
that
were
appealed,
we're
actually
more
based
on
looking
for
clarification
on
those
and
how
we
were
addressing
those
items.
A
A
B
Thank
You
mr.
chair
and
through
that,
whereas
a
report
ACS
2017,
p,
IE,
PS
0-1-0-3,
recommends
approval
of
zoning
bylaw
amendments
to
permit
village
residential
plan
of
subdivision
and
whereas
the
magnetic
secondary
plan
has
minimum
and
maximum
density
policy
based
on
calculations
using
gross
hectares
of
the
entire
site
and
whereas
the
proposed
v3
be
sub-zone,
has
no
maximum
density
provision
and
the
proposed
VA
v1a
exception
zone
have
no
density
provisions
and
whereas
to
provide
to
provide
consistency
between
the
magnetic
secondary
plan
and
the
proposed
zoning.
B
Zoning
provisions
should
be
introduced
to
reflect
the
minimum
and
maximum
gross
hectare.
Density
policy
of
the
magnetics
secondary
plan
therefore
be
resolved.
That
document
one
location
map
of
report
AC
as
2017
bie
PS
0
1
0
3,
be
replaced
with
the
location
map
attached
to
this
motion.
Be
it
further
resolved
that
document
details
of
recommended
zoning
be
amended
as
follows:
a
by
adding
the
text
as
xxx
following
the
text
xx
x,
1,
R
and
X
xx,
2,
R
and
X
X
X
3
are
wherever
they
appear.
B
B
Is
units
per
gross
hectare
to
the
maximum
of
20
units
per
gross
hectare
calculated
using
the
entire
area
show
as
area
a
on
schedule,
X
X,
X
and
C
by
adding
the
new
item
which
states
MN
part
17
schedules
by
adding
a
new
schedule,
s
xxx
be
further
resolved
that
the
report
be
amended
by
adding
the
schedule
attached
to
this
motion
as
document
5,
be
it
FURTHER
RESOLVED
that
pursuing
the
planning
act,
subsection,
34,
17,
no
further
notice
be
given.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
should
just
a
staff
just
to
this
is
just
tech,
11
clarifying
an
aspirin
report,
so
nothing
substantial
changes
as
real
as
emotional.
Thank
you.
So,
on
the
on
the
amendments
carried
and
on
the
report,
thank
you
so
on
to
item
number
5,
which
is
the
revised
quirements
for
rural
coaches
and
private
services.
I
am
also
on
this
item,
going
to
ask
for
our
reports.
We
have
la
Miguel
ax,
it's
here
and
Michelle
Keaney,
to
discuss
the
reports
and
we
Davies
is
also
in
the
room.
A
D
D
That
committee
directed
us
to
undertake
in
order
to
provide
moral
code
houses
on
private
services,
so
by
background
in
October
of
last
year,
motion
was
passed
by
Council
to
investigate
a
less
onerous
approach
to
allowing
coach
houses
in
the
rural
area.
We
appeared
before
you,
mr.
chairman,
in
June,
with
finance
of
our
work
and
further
we're
further
directed
to
take
another
closer
look
at
some
of
the
presented
at
that
time.
I'm.
D
D
Mr.
chairman
give
further
flexibility
to
people
who
live
in
the
rural
area
and
have
properties
that
are
on
private
services
to
be
able
to
do
coach
houses.
As
of
right,
we
have
proposed
modifications
to
the
Official
Plan
to
the
zoning
bylaw
incitement
site
plan
by
law
and
as
well.
We
provided
a
streamlined
process
for
the
scope
to
studies
of
soil
conditions
that
are
necessary
for
Coach
houses
on
private
services.
I.
D
D
So,
instead
we
are
including
language
that
refers
to
a
lot
being
of
sufficient
dimension
to
be
able
to
sustain
privately
private
services.
We
are
removing
the
site
plan,
control
requirement
for
any
lot,
that
is
on
municipal
water
services
or
smaller
than
0.625
hectares,
and
we
are
creating
a
policy
that
will
guide
future
minor
variances
applications
to
lower
the
zoning
bylaw
minimum.
So
the
zoning
bylaw
minimum
is
modifying
the
minimum
lot
size
as
of
right
from
point
8
hectares,
which
is
2
acres
to
point
65
and
we've
included
and
councillor
blaze,
not
here
today.
D
But
this
was
in
his
ward
site-specific
provision
to
allow
for
coach-house
at
40,
689,
Anderson,
Road
and
finally,
for
the
site
plan
control
bylaw,
we're
removing
the
requirement
for
site
plan
control
on
Lots
that
are
smaller
than
point
65.
And
the
reason
for
that
is
that
if
you're
going
below
point
65,
then
we
have
a
process
in
front
of
the
committee
of
adjustment
through
which
we
can
undertake
the
hydrogeological
scoped
study
and
we
also
remove
the
application
of
site
plan
control
for
rural
Lots
that
have
a
connection
to
a
municipal
water
system.
D
So
we
are
streamlining
that
process
and
removing
fees
and
red
tape.
On
that
front,
and
in
terms
of
the
hydro
geological
study,
we
are
recommending
a
committee
receive
the
terms
of
reference
which
will
guide
applicants
when
hydro
gee
study
is
required,
that's
applicable
to
lots
that
are
greater
than
point
65
hectares.
It
will
be
applicable
in
areas
where
there
are
no
municipal
services
and
we're
revising
the
booklet
called
how
to
build
a
coach
house
in
Ottawa
to
reflect
these
changes,
which
will
be
available
for
download
on
the
website.
D
A
E
A
F
Thank
you,
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
and
thank
you
a
lot
for
your
presentation
and
we
see
we
came
a
long
way
from
where
we
started
I'd
like
you
to
tell
us
here
the
benefit
of
having
coach-house
versus
having
a
Grammy
suite.
You
know
we
have,
we
have
policy
can
build
agree.
Can
you
tell
me
the
different
requirement
between
the
two
mr.
D
Chairman,
the
advantage
of
a
coach
house
is
that
it
provides
for
secondary
dwelling
where
the
people
who
will
live
in
that
secondary
dwelling
have
their
own
four
walls,
it's
a
different
setup
than
having
a
basement
apartment
or
having
a
second
unit
within
your
house.
So
really,
this
provision
opens
up
possibilities
for
people
who
want
a
different
type
of
arrangement
on
the
same
property
and
allows
for
in
a
lot
of
cases,
multi-generational
arrangements
on
the
same
lot.
That's
what
we
see
is
a
fundamental
advantage.
It
opens
up
possibilities
and
choice
in
terms
of
dwellings.
What.
F
My
colleagues
will
support
that,
because
I
think
it's
necessary
for
the
for
the
rural
area
to
make
it
basically
affordable
and
and
easy
to
do
because
so
far
we
heard
all
not
too
many
people
apply,
but
I
mean
when
they
start
asking
staff.
They
were
faced
with
the
whole
list
of
consideration
and
you
know
they
put
that
hand
up,
say:
okay,
it's
too
much
to
be
able
to
start
this
process,
but
I've
seen
we
came
a
long
way.
F
We
change
it
quite
a
bit
I'm
happy
with,
but
one
of
the
area
we
will
ask
and
I
don't
know
if
some
or
maybe
remark
can
help
us
with
this
about
the
development
charge
for
Coach
houses.
We've
been
asked
by
by
some
of
our
resident,
especially
the
area
in
transit
B,
where
we
don't
have
transit.
Why
do
we
have
to
pay
a
transit
on
a
development
charge?
If
it's
a
coach
house
the
question
trying
to
understand
it?
Why.
E
Silent
fire
technology,
mr.
Chu,
mr.
chair,
the
rationale
behind
having
development
charges
due
for
transit
is
the
significant
emphasis
this
councilman
prior
counsels
have
put
on
transit,
and
so
there
are
several
exemptions
within
the
bylaw
which
used
to
be
complete
exemptions.
But
with
the
enactment
of
the
bylaw
in
2014,
they
were
required
to
pay
into
development
charges
for
transit
purposes,
and
so
that
it
is
because
that
significant
emphasis
had
many
types
of
development
that
works
and
before
are
now
being
required
to
pay
the
transit
component.
E
F
The
same
thing
from
mr.
Baker
I
check
with
him
before
you're
right,
but
I'm,
just
trying
to
bear
with
me
Allah
I'm,
trying
to
to
find
out
still
be
viable
for
the
resident
to
go
with
the
coach
house.
If
he's
gonna
be
DC
on
transit
or
should
again
go
through
a
granny
suite,
because
a
lot
of
people
would
guess
they
would
like
to
have
their
pianist
living
with
them
on
the
same
property
and
and
we
encourage
that
the
provincial
government
encourage
people
to
stay
home
with
their
family
to
keep
them
away
from
the
system.
F
F
Mr.
chair,
maybe
you
know
we
can
take
on
this
item
when
it
comes
time
to
submit
mr.
chair
I
have
a
motion:
where
are
the
minimum
lot
size
requirement
for
Coach
house
on
private
service,
as
recommended
to
be
reduced
to
0.65
hatcher,
and
whereas
there
is
a
desire
from
the
interested
property
owner
to
see
a
lower
lot
size?
F
Therefore,
and
whereas
the
coach-house
application
will
be
subject,
the
requirements
with
the
regard
to
all
capacity
and
subject
system
impact,
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
minimum
lot
size
requirement
for
Coach
houses
and
private
service
to
set
at
point
four
hectares.
We
have
further
resolved
that
staff
be
directed
to
provide
to
council
any
required
language
to
implement
this
motion.
F
We
have
further
resolved
that
the
city
of
our
body
view
this
policy
in
five
years
to
determine
the
impact
of
the
lower
lot
size
requirement
yet
further
resolve
that
there
is
no
further
notice
so
into
section
34,
subsection,
17
after
Planina,
so
I
will
help
serve.
They
reduce
it.
Mr.
chair,
but
I
think
this
will
help
with
this
with
the
one
acre
lot
if
they
meet.
If
they
meet
the
septic
system
requirement.
A
That's
right
so
I
guess
in
the
aspect
of
their
motion.
It
speaks
to
language
required
prior
to
Council
we'd.
Also,
there's
the
aspect
of
site
plan
control
we'd
have
to
alter
that
from
0.65
down
to
four
before
council,
so
that
site
plan
control,
wouldn't
you
would
get
lost
and
that
it
would
be
it
be
under
point
four.
That
would
then
go
to
committee
of
adjustment
for
a
minor
variants.
So
that's
that
would
be
also
the
language
that
needs
to
be
altered
in
their
in
their
proposed
policy.
I.
A
Think
it's
a
I
think
a
part
of
the
motion
to
in
terms
of
coming
back.
I
know
there
are
our
concerns
from
a
policy
perspective.
I
know
the
Official
Plan
Policy.
Sorry,
the
provincial
policy
statement
speaks
to
lot
sizes
and
come
when
it
comes
to
servicing.
I
know
the
point
for
falls
below
that.
So
taking
the
time
I,
don't
know
how
many
we're
gonna
get
a
tease,
we've
seen
that
we
have
these
applications.
None
of
these
are
obviously
in
the
threshold
that
we're
talking
about
so
between
0.4
0.65.
A
A
So,
based
on
the
concerns
that
staff
have
with
regard
to
impacts,
you
know
environmental
impacts,
septic
impacts
on
a
lot
size
below
0.65
of
a
hectare,
you'll
come
back
and
four
or
five
years
and
say,
and
what
has
been
the
impact
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
that,
because
we
are
going
against
policy
on
this
I'm,
not
asking
staff
to
support
that,
because
I
know
where
you
sit
on
that.
But
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
have
that
information
in
the
future
to
see
if
applications
have
come
forward.
B
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
about
it
and
I
want
to
thank
my
colleague,
construction,
Tyrion,
I
know.
Councillor
Moffat
and
staff
has
been
working
very
hard
with
this,
and
we've
been
having
tons
of
discussion
over
it.
The
idea
is
behind
coach
houses
and
why
construction?
It
is
asking
all
this
question.
We
are
trying
to
put
a
policy
and
we're
trying
to
put
a
product
to
our
resident,
to
making
sure
they
can
afford
it
and
they
can
build
coach
houses.
B
If
you
look
at
rural
ro,
there
is
a
desire
from
resident
to
stay
in
the
community,
and
this
is
where
demonstrate
earlier
and
other
motion
of
we
keep
talking.
We
have
shortage
in
our
community
for
small
density
for
small
homes
where
resident
can
not
they
want
to
downsize,
but
also
they
don't
want
to
leave
the
village.
B
They
don't
want
to
leave
the
community
so
we're
trying
to
find
a
product
to
be
able
to
instead
of
putting
a
red
tape
and
let
them
giving
them
a
runaround
and
make
it
hard
on
them
and
to
answer
some
of
your
question,
we've
been
talking.
This
back
and
forth
why
residents
are
not
applying
for
it,
because
it's
not
it
doesn't
have
appetite.
Why
I'm
going
to
apply
for
Coach
House
and
have
any
interest
if
there
is
so
many
red
tapes,
and
there
is
so
many
a
policy
behind
it.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
here?
B
We're
trying
to
ease
the
language
we're
trying
to
work
with
our
resident
to
making
sure
that
we
have
some
product
we
can
offer
for
them,
so
they
can
really
be
attracted
and
build
in
the
company
community.
So
these
conversation
between
staff
and
us
and
a
chair,
I
know
he's
been
taking
a
lead
on
this
and
I
know
it's
hard
when
you're
crafting
a
policy
that
it
doesn't
exist
in
any
other
municipalities,
so
every
bulb
about.
They
are
looking
at
us
to
see
how
we're
gonna
provide
coach
houses
and
rural
area
in
a
rural
setting.
B
B
We
could
work
with
our
resident
to
encourage
them
to
applying
and
have
some
coach
house
is
built,
and
we
learned
from
working
with
you
guys
and
briefing
our
community,
our
committee,
with
how
the
result
and
see
if,
in
the
next
four
or
five
years,
we
can
readjust
the
policy
but
also
I,
like
you,
too,
I
like
to
direct
staff.
Mr.
B
A
Thank
you,
yeah
I,
probably
wise
when
you
come
back
for
your
board
a
year
from
now
to
include
others,
pallies
I
know
as
of
right.
Now
it's
really
us,
like
I,
said
we
have
discussed
I
mentioned
like
a
year
ago
or
not
a
year
ago.
I
mentioned
it,
but
four
months
ago,
Innisfil
has
a
policy
that
does
speak
to
private
services,
but
they
only
spend
less
than
a
Twitter
amount
of
characters.
Actually,
referring
to
coach
has
no
private
services.
A
They
just
punt
it
to
provincial
policy,
which
may
or
may
not
exist
so
I'm
not
really
sure
how
they're
handling
that,
but
it's
it
lacks
clarity.
I
was
trying
to
look
to
them
for
guidance
as
to
how
we're
handling
it's
a
figure.
Maybe
they
were
doing
something
that
was
clear
and
easy,
but
it
seems
that
they're
not
and
I
know.
Kingston
is
looking
at
this
as
well
right
now
as
to
how
they're
adopting
a
policy.
A
So
it
will
be
interesting
to
see
how
other
municipalities
bring
this
forward
and
if
there's
anything
to
learn,
I
mean
imagine.
As
councillor
Duru
said,
they'll
be
looking
to
us,
but
I
get
receive
as
they
go
through
it.
They
see
ours.
Maybe
they
see
things
that
could
be
done
differently
so
that
we
can
learn
from
them
as
well
and
revise
this
in
the
future,
if
need
be,
if
there's
any
way
to
make
it
easier
in
the
future.
A
B
A
B
Canisters,
thank
you.
This
one
doesn't
have
access,
so
no
worries.
Where
is
report
AC,
2017,
p,
IE
e
DP,
0
0
4
0,
to
comment
on
official
plan
amendment
to
introduce
more
flexible
requirement
for
Coach
houses
in
a
rural
area
on
private
services
and
whereas
grammatical
errors
in
proposed
policy
changes
has
been
identified
and
required
modifications
so
to
achieve
their
intent.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
following
changes
to
be
made
to
document
one
proposed
amendment
to
official
plan
of
the
City
of
Ottawa
and
staff
report.
One
item
be
under
Section
two
of
Part
B.
A
Correct
so
I
would
have
I
would
have
used
the
word
minor
errors
instead
of
grammatical
errors,
just
just
future
just
seems
to
throw
people
under
the
bus
there,
so
so
on
the
on
the
technical
amendment
carried
and
on
construction
series
motion
carried.
Thank
you
on
the
report
as
amended.
Thank
you.
So
that
is
it
for
the
substantive
items
on
the
agenda.
In-Camera
items
there
are
none.
Unless
we
want
to
just
go
on
camera
and
talk
about
people
that
aren't
here,
we
already
did
IP
DS
but
publish
sorry,
so
open
mic
session.
A
A
G
G
So
the
first
area
to
touch
on
is
the
the
paramedics
ponce
in
the
in
the
rural
area.
We've
recently
received
the
2016
annual
report
on
the
ambulance
service
and
the
response
time
targets
that
apply
the
first
one
in
the
urban
area
of
eight
minutes,
that's
recorded
in
the
report.
The
rural
response
time
is
not
reported
in
the
the
report
at
all.
Neither
the
target
nor
the
performance
and
the
the
report
concludes
with
saying
you
know
there
are
no
world
implications
associated
with
a
report.
G
Well,
the
reason
there
aren't
any
implications
is
that
the
rural
implications
were
not
discussed
in
the
report,
significant
difference
in
response
times
that
needs
to
be
reported
on
and
and
regularly
addressed.
The
good
news
is
that,
according
to
information,
the
councilor
provided
me,
the
response
time
in
the
rural
areas
is
about
twelve
point
four
and
that's
a
relatively
good
news
compared
to
the
target
that.
G
Unfortunately,
when
staff
responded
by
that
integration,
they
made
the
comparison
with
the
rest
of
rural
Ontario
were
not
virile,
Ontario
or
rural
Ottawa,
and
that
comparison
needs
to
be
made
a
somewhat
related
item.
The
third
bullet
there
on
the
the
offload
nervous
pilot
project
I,
was
pleased
to
see
the
results.
G
Based
on
what
I've,
seen
and
colleagues
have
seen
that
the
the
Civic
Hospital
and
particularly
particular
there
are
a
lot
of
ambulance
that
are
still
piled
up.
There
be
very
interesting
to
see
how
much
we
could
save
by
putting
a
little
bit
more
provincial,
and
maybe
even
federal
money
in
that
particular
project.
G
G
G
To
start
from
the
city
did
enter
into
a
very
interesting
project
with
Explorer
net
about
ten
years
ago,
and
that
made
some
significant
progress.
Unfortunately,
it
fell
fall
short
of
the
the
expectations
I
think
on
both
parties.
The
target
was
for
a
five
megabit
connection
and
from
looking
at
the
existing
Cir
data
were
generally
only
getting
two
to
three
megabits
in
the
rural
areas.
Most,
unfortunately,
the
triple-b
project
did
not
appear
to
have
specified
the
need
to
report
on
the
performance
ie.
G
A
G
G
The
mayor
in
one
of
his
press
interviews
on
budget
27
defines
our
roads
as
being
in
pretty
good
shape.
At
the
same
time,
the
state
of
the
assets
report
basically
says
that
75%
of
the
roads
aren't
up
to
the
good
condition
that
we
expect
as
a
standard
that
we
set
as
a
standard
and
I
think
even
more
alarming.
30%
of
the
roadwork
is
in
a
condition
that
may
negatively
impact
the
level
of
service.
Well,
the
third
of
our
roads
aren't
capable
of
performing
as
roads.
I
think
we
have
a
serious
problem.
A
A
G
At
the
data
that
is
available
when
Council
decided
last
spring
to
seize
the
regular
reporting,
that
basically
said
rely
upon
the
OMB
I
reports.
Well,
this
is
the
OMB
a
report
that
I
provided
to
several
of
the
budget
meetings.
The
mayor
clearly
identifies
that
we
have
an
infrastructure
deficit,
but
we
don't
identify
it.
When
we
had
a
problem
with
the
community
housing
we
identify,
we
did
a
study,
we
identified
the
dollar
value
and
we
started
to
fund
it.
We
haven't
done
that
and
I
don't
see
anything
in
the
new
long-range
financial
plan.
G
G
The
second
item
on
high-speed
Internet
we've
got
a
lot
of
competition
across
the
country
for
that
seven
hundred
and
fifty
million
dollars
that
crtc
identified
Ottawa
is
known
by
the
rest
of
the
country
as
fat
cat
city.
We're
going
to
have
a
hard
time
convincing
them
that
there
is
in
fact
I
speed,
internet
desert
out
here
in
the
rural
areas.
We've
got
to
start
getting
our
numbers
together,
and
the
last
item
is
my
perennial
question.
G
A
You
I
likely
needs
to
get
on
the
first
one,
while
they're
rhetorical
I'm,
like
the
best
at
rhetoric,
so
on
the
first
one,
I
could
I
get
you
some
information
response
from
the
city
on
that
on
number.
Two,
if
you
send
me
some
blood,
if
you
press
the
report,
this
gentleman
named
Chris
cope
that
works
on
this
I
know
from
the
CRTC
perspective.
I
think
that
that
plan
on
there
is
garbage
five
megabits
per
second
in
the
rural
area
is
trash.
If
you
want
anything,
it
has
to
be
at
least
25,
possibly
50.
A
It's
their
targets
are
poor
and
technically
the
service
of
five
megabits
per
second
in
Ottawa
is
available.
I
know
it
doesn't
always
reach
that
it
goes
up
and
down
we're.
Seeing
Bell
is
trying
to
do
their
best
to
bring
more
five
into
the
rural
area.
We're
seeing
that
in
some
of
our
larger
communities,
more
needs
to
be
done.
There's
no
question.
I,
know,
Chris
cope
who
works
in
our
economic
development
apartment.
Has
information
on
that
and
I
can
probably
get
him
to
respond
to
you
on
the
third
one.
The
long-range
financial
plan.
A
Five
does
speak
to
infrastructure
in
the
next
10
years
and
it
does
speak
to
the
funding
gap
that
we
have
the
infrastructure
deficit
that
we
have,
which
is
70
million
dollars
a
year,
we're
spending
on
12
million
dollars
and
we
should
be
spent
ninety
five
dollars
annually
over
the
next
10
years.
We're
gonna
close
that
gap,
we're
gonna,
add
eight
point:
seven
million
dollars
per
year
annually
every
year.
Obviously
that's
what
generally
means
for
the
next
ten
years.
A
You
should
close
that
gap
in
2018
we're
also
adding
an
extra
15
million
dollars
to
that
to
further
reduce
that.
So
we
do
have
a
plan
to
do
that,
and
it
would
probably
be
more
rolled
out
a
bit
more
in
detail
during
the
2018
budgets,
which
will
come
next
month,
but
there
is.
It
is
in
that
long
range
financial
plan.
That
would
do
speak
to
that.
We
recognize
the
deficit.
You
know,
we've
done
things
over
the
past
several
years.
We've
increased
our
contribution
to
capital
we've.
A
We
did
the
the
auto
on
the
move
program,
which
is
through
an
forty
million
dollar
investment
into
roads.
It
helped
us
catch
up
a
bit,
but
it
wasn't
enough.
So
we
recognize
that
we
need
an
annual
contribution.
We
need
dedicated
operating
dollars
toward
that
every
year
in
the
budget
and
we're
putting
that
were
building
it
into
the
bottom
line
in
2018
and
every
year
for
the
next
ten
years
up
to
2027
by
2027,
we
will
have
projected
to
fill
that
gap.
B
Thank
you
again
for
coming
here
this
morning
and
addressing
some
of
the
issue,
but
I
do
assure
you.
There
is
on
a
paramedic
on
a
paramedic
issue
that
we've
been
talking
about
it.
In
the
last
three
years:
counselor
Chantilly
myself
and
the
chair
Eric
councillor,
Moffat
we've
been
really
working
closely
with
our
paramedic,
because
paramedic
is
a
necessary
service,
and
this
is
a
core
service
that
we
should
provide
to
our
resident.
B
I
live
in
the
rural
area
myself
and
it's
heartened
me
to
see
if
we're
really
not
responding,
especially
for
when
we
have
a
seat
as
one
and
we
have
a
heart
attack
or
stroke
or
something
but
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you
realize
and
I
don't
have.
The
number
I
wish
I
have
the
me,
but
in
the
last
three
years
we
did
in
an
emergency.
We
pulled
12,
we
added
12,
FTE
paramedic,
and
these
are
these
are
not
to
replace
people
that
retire
or
people
are
getting
to
methanol.
B
If
these
are
12
new
FTE
and
in
the
last
year
we
were
able
to
add
another
24.
What
the
report
doesn't
tell
you,
we
don't
have,
because
the
paramedic
professional
paramedic
it
doesn't
take
1
months
to
put
them
in
service.
You
hire
them,
you
train
them,
they
have
to
be
certified
and
it
take
time
for
them
to
be
on
a
service
or
on
the
ground.
This
year
we
were
only
able,
by
July
1st
and
Canada
day,
we
were
able
to
implement
a
new
24
paramedic.
B
So
this
conversation
is
always
happening
and
we
are
always
making
sure
that
we
have
a
good
timing
for
responding
our
committee
for
for
me
personally,
if
you
look
at
an
Osgood
my
respond
time
in
my
community
right
now,
it's
11
11
minute
and
24
second,
is
that
what
I
want?
No
I
want
more
than
I
want
a
better,
but
that's
what
we
are
working.
It's
a
massive
city
geographically
and
we
are
making
sure
we
don't
have,
because
what
the
growth
is
happening.
G
In
order
to
demonstrate
the
improvements
to
counsel
and
to
residents,
those
sort
of
stats
have
got
to
be
included
in
the
animal
report
and
we
shouldn't
have
to
wait
until
next
report
to
find
out
oops-
it's
not
in
there.
So
I
would
request
that.
Now
we
ask
the
pyramid
service
to
ensure
that
they
include
in
next
year's
report
an
equivalent
analysis
of
the
rural
response
time
for
ambulances.
B
Okay,
sorry
and
I
want
to
add
I
want
to
echo
councillor
Moffat
we've
been
working
very
hard
in
the
Disturb
of
Council
to
add
some
more
money
for
a
rural
road,
and
you
see
in
the
past.
We
we
did
pull
some
money
for
extra
road
improvement.
And,
yes,
we
have
a
long
range,
a
financial
plan
in
the
next
ten
years
to
close
that
gap
and
I'm
a.
G
Very
simple
soldier
and
I
have
difficulty
after
having
read
both
the
long
bridge
financial
plan
and
the
state
of
the
assets
report.
I
do
not
have
a
lot
of
confidence
that
we
have
adequately
identified.
The
other
shortfall
and
I
have
not
seen
anything
that
indicates
there's
something
that
sounds
like
a
plan
there's
this
vague
hope
that
in
ten
years,
if
we
follow
those
graph
lines,
things
may
improve
well
the
last
ten
years
they
didn't
improve,
because
we
did
follow
the
graph
lines
and
we
were
grossly
underfunded.
All.
H
Lend
you
mine,
great,
ok,
part
of
the
problem
were
facing
not
just
in
the
rural
worlds,
but
the
city
roads
is
that
the
feds
and
the
province
in
the
last
two
years
have
stopped
funding
roads
and
how
we
do
a
lot
of
roads.
Is
we
take
their
dollars
and
match
those
dollars?
What
we
call
50
cent
dollars
or
thirty
three
cent
dollars,
depending
on
the
funding
provided?
It's
the
new
federal
government
does
not
support
roads
that
supports
transit.
We
can
get
money
for
adding
bus
stops
and
and
sidewalks
and
bike
lanes.
H
That's
why
you
see
in
this
this
current
year,
I
believe
councilor
blade,
put
five
million
dollars
in
bike
lanes
into
the
Cumberland
Ward,
and
you
know
that's
more
money
than
when
into
roads
in
most
Ward's.
So
it's
it
shows
us
because
he's
getting
the
federal
funds
to
do
that.
So
it's
a
challenge
for
us.
H
This
budget,
we're
gonna,
have
to
cut
money
in
other
envelopes
to
try
to
get
some
more
money
into
the
roads,
because
the
state
of
as
you're
pointing
out
in
your
report
here
the
state
of
our
roads
is
not
good
and
it's
getting
worse.
So
we've
got
to
do
find
some
money
somewhere,
but
it
means
cutting
back
elsewhere.
A
So
that
is
it
for
the
open
mic
session
notice.
Emotion,
none
inquiry,
it's
none!
Other
business
non-german
carried
carried.
Our
next
meeting
is
Thursday
November
2nd.
We
also
have
meeting
November
23rd,
which
will
be
our
our
budget
meeting
in
Iraq.
We
don't
have
a
December
meeting.
That's
been
moved
up
to
November
23rd
to
deal
with
the
budget.
Thank
you.