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From YouTube: Built Heritage Sub-Committee – February 12, 2015
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Built Heritage Sub-Committee meeting – February 12, 2015 – Audio Stream
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
B
Okay,
good
morning,
everybody
welcome
to
the
second
meeting
of
the
belt
headed
subcommittee
and
2015.
We
have
a
full
agenda
this
morning,
so
we
will
try
and
get
through
the
items
efficiently
when,
when
we
can
so
in
terms
of
regrets,
councilor
Scott
Moffat
has
SAMHSA's
regrets
declarations
of
interest,
any
declarations
of
interest,
no
great
confirmation
of
minutes
from
the
meeting
of
the
13th
of
January
2015,
okay,
wonderful,
okay!
B
F
B
Congratulations
mr.
vice
chair,
okay,
moving
to
item
2,
which
is
the
build
herd
subcommittee
terms
of
reference
with
the
indulgence
of
the
subcommittee.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
to
defer
that
item
to
our
next
meeting
at
the
end
of
March,
and
the
reason
is
we're
having
this
retreat
session
at
the
beginning
of
March
and
I
thought.
B
That
would
be
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
roll
up
our
sleeves
and
talk
a
a
bit
about
the
terms
of
reference
and
some
of
the
details
which
still
need
to
be
ironed
out
in
terms
of
executing
on
them.
So
with
your
agreement,
can
we
defer
that
in
okay,
great
okay,
so
we're
maybe
not
in
three
now,
which
is
a
built
heritage
overview?
We've
asked
a
fist
to
do
a
brief
overview,
for
especially
the
benefit
of
the
three
new
members
of
the
committee.
Hopefully,
for
those
of
you,
who've
are
the
grizzled
veterans.
B
H
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
chair
I
will
try
to
be
to
try
to
be
brief,
so
my
name
is
Sally.
Koontz
I
am
the
coordinator
of
the
heritage
section
one
of
three
heritage
professionals
who
work
in
the
City
of
Ottawa,
all
the
other
ones,
who
you
always
see
sitting
at
this
desk
and
my
colleagues
are
Wesley
Collins
heritage,
planner
and
Anne
Fitzpatrick,
and
that
is
the
entirety
of
the
heritage
section.
H
The
hair
section
does
more
than
just
reports
for
the
built
heritage
subcommittee
that
are
active.
So
what
we
do
is
we
do
recommendations
for
heritage
designations
under
part,
four
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
Those
are
individual
properties.
We
do
recommendations
regarding
heritage
conservation,
districts,
designation
under
part
five
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
We
process
Energy's,
permit
applications,
and
you
see
these
a
lot
at
committee
for
buildings
that
are
designated
under
both
part
four
in
part.
Five.
H
We
also
sign-off
this
internal
work
of
a
section
also
involves
signing
off
building
permits
from
non-designated
buildings
that
have
their
own
heritage
reference
list
and
we
work
with
our
land
use,
cleaning
colonies
on
large
projects
that
involve
designated
buildings
such
as
the
Cathedral
Hill
projects,
and
then
the
oblate
lands
at
175,
which
meant,
and
we
have
a
heritage
grant
program.
In
addition,
we
have
that
we
work
on.
H
H
Conservation
is
defined
as
a
broad
range
of
activities
that
is
used
to
identify,
protect,
maintain
and
revitalize
a
property
cultural
heritage.
Landscape
is
ending
geographic
area.
There
has
been
demonstrates
human
intervention,
so
a
natural
landscape
that
has
never
been
touched
by
man
is
or
is
not
a
cultural
heritage
landscape.
Whereas
if
there's
interventions,
it
is
a
heritage
attributes.
You
hear
this
all
the
time
from
us
and
basically
an
attribute
is
a
principal
feature
or
element
of
a
building
that
contributes
to
it's
a
building
or
property
to
its
value
or
interest.
H
So
in
the
Turner's
are
in
terms
of
a
building.
An
attribute
could
be
it's:
it's
it's
windows
if
it's
a
church,
its
steeple,
anything
that
defines
and
gives
it
value,
and
certainly
when
the
designation
that
you'll
have
and
the
designations
that
you
have
in
front
of
you
today,
you
will
hear
talk
of
the
attributes.
Those
are
the
things
that
contribute
to
its
significance.
The
Ontario
Heritage
Act
is
the
act
that
we
work
with.
It
was
created
in
1875,
amended
in
2005.
H
It
gives
us
the
power,
municipalities,
the
power
to
designate
individual
buildings
and
Heritage
Conservation
districts.
It
also
includes
provision
for
a
Heritage
Register,
which
is
also
and
and
procedures
regarding
the
creation
of
plans
and
designation
of
buildings.
How
do
reports
get
to
you?
We
prepare
reports
upon
receipt
of
applications
for
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
and,
as
you
know,
recommendations
of
this
staff
rise
to
planning
committee
and
City
Council.
Of
course,
if
your
subcommittee
does
not
agree
with
us
to
sub
committee,
recommendation
can
rise
to
plan
Canadian,
City
Council.
H
Decisions
or
recommendations
regarding
designated
properties,
neighbors
community
associations,
heritage,
Ottawa
and
all
councillors
are
circulated,
so
part
for
individual
buildings
are
designated
for
their
cultural
heritage
value.
There's
about
327
in
Ottawa
investigated
under
part
four
request
to
designate.
This
is
something
that
is
a
question
that
often
comes
out
a
requester
doesn't
make
can
come
from
anyone,
an
individual,
a
community
Association,
a
city
councilor
or
it
can
be
initiated
by
heritage
staff
individually.
H
Individuals
who
request
designation
often
talk
to
us
about
the
significance
of
their
building,
and
there
is
now
an
application
form
for
individuals
and
community
associations
to
complete
prior
to
with,
as
their
request
for
designation.
So
now
there
was
a
certain
amount
of
rigor
associated
with
request
for
designation
under
from
the
public
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
H
How
do
we
decide
whether
something
has
significance
there?
Ontario
regulation
Oh
906
high,
that
prescribes
the
criteria
that
a
building
or
property
has
to
beat
to
to
be
designated,
so
it
has
to
meet
one
of
four
of
the
criteria
and
design
a
physical
value,
historical
or
associated
value
and
contextual
value,
you'll
notice.
In
your
reports
and
designations,
we
always
include
only
or
sex
to
remind
the
reader
of
the
criteria
that
we
work
with.
H
So
here's
a
just
a
brief
example.
I
chose
this
one
because
it's
not
a
building,
because
everybody
always
thinks
about
buildings.
This
is
a
ruin
and
a
cemetery.
It
was
designated
a
couple
of
years
ago,
so
we
went
through
the
attributes,
it's
the
Romania
they're,
the
remaining
walls,
the
shape
of
the
arches,
etc.
That's
the
building
and
the
landscape
is
also,
though
the
cemetery
as
a
landscape
is
also
designated
and
it
including
the
act.
Its
attributes
are
their
plan
and
layout,
trees,
etc,
etc.
H
So
you
see
a
statement
of
cultural
heritage
value
for
every
part
for
building
now.
What
happens
when
it's
designated,
as
you
know,
alterations
require
the
approval
of
City.
Council
demolitions
require
approval
of
City
Council,
and
now
we
have
a
new
clauses
and
our
property
standards
by
law
that
require
a
property
owner
to
maintain
my
heritage
attributes
of
a
building,
and
we
can
order
that
they
be
repaired,
part
5,
heritage
conservation,
districts
definition
and
from
the
Official
Plan,
usually
an
aggregate
of
buildings
open
spaces
and
streets
which
has
been
designated.
H
We
have
18
large
center
town,
Walker,
Park
and
small
Mitchell
Park
Briarcliff
and
lorn
Avenue
along
Avenue.
They
range
from
stable,
primarily
residential
areas,
to
excuse
buildings
within
these
districts.
They
are
approximately
3,500
buildings
designated
every
single,
solitary
building
within
the
boundaries
of
a
Heritage
Conservation
District
are
protected
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
so
even
builders
with
little
significance
still
have
a
process
that
has
to
be
followed
if
they
are
to
be
removed
or
changed.
This
is
very
important
because
sometimes
people
think
it's
only
the
old
buildings
that
are
designated
notice.
H
H
There's
a
request:
we
look
at
a
study
area.
There's
research
evaluation.
The
decision
is
made
to
designate.
We
prepare
an
HCD
plan
which
includes
guidelines
that
regarding
the
management
of
the
districts
and
there's
a
a
large
public
notification
process,
that's
required
by
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
that
we
follow
now.
Every
district
requires
a
plan
and
it's
approved
by
councils
Council.
We
have
guidelines
for
all
districts,
but
no
plan
it's
and
it
makes
the
document
enforceable.
H
Plans
have
to
include
this
is
from
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
so
we're
dealing
with
districts.
There's
a
you
see
a
plan.
Those
things
have
to
be
there.
There
is
no
there's,
no
they're
just
required,
so
objectives,
state,
the
cultural
heritage,
value,
the
attributes
of
the
district
at
see,
statements,
etc,
etc.
That
your
well
as
the
Beltre
subcommittee
and
districts
is
one
way
that
report
comes
forward.
This
is
your
minimal
role.
There's
more
that
can
be
done.
H
Is
the
report
that
this
meeting
that
build
your
subcommittee
is
considered
a
public
meeting
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
even
though
recommendations
to
plan
committee
and
City
Council
and
you
can
hear
public
delegations,
so
the
process
is
the
same
as
with
any
application.
So
what
happens
when
something
is
now
designated
to
alterations,
real
alterations
to
buildings
within
districts?
Any
division
designate
require
the
approval
of
City.
Council
demolitions
require
the
approval
of
City
Council.
The
official
plan
requires
the
public
works
in
Heritage.
Conservation
districts
must
respect
the
character
of
the
area.
H
Some
Heritage
Conservation
districts
have
zoning
provisions,
that's
a
regulate
location
of
additions
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
there's
no
property
standards
by
law
regarding
designated
buildings.
So
many
of
the
applications
you
see
in
front
of
you
are
construction
in
heritage
districts.
So
what
we
look
at
with
the
questions
we
ask
or
is
the
building
to
be
alters,
I'm
highly
rated,
a
highly
significant
building
within
a
district?
Does
it
contribute
to
the
character
of
the
district
or,
if
it
doesn't,
should
demolition
be
approved?
Does
the
if
it's
proposed?
H
Does
the
bell
gelatin
meet
the
design
guidelines
that
have
been
approved
by
council?
Doesn't
other
heritage
policy
and
has
the
community
been
consultant,
the
challenges
of
alterations
in
heritage
districts
are
all
individual
properties.
Is
that
sometimes
the
goals
of
the
property
owner
in
the
community
may
conflict?
It's
not
a
very
good
sentence.
Excuse
me:
consideration
of
heritage
value
in
a
district,
sometimes
that
individual
building
takes
over.
You
have
to
balance
the
needs
of
the
individual
building
and
building
owner
over
the
needs
of
the
entire
district
and
some
of
our
heritage.
H
Conservation
districts,
don't
have
heritage
plans,
and
so
it
is
difficult
to
have
standards
against
which
to
measure
interventions
to
the
district
city
has
other
heritage
planning
tools,
the
Heritage
overlay.
You
often
hear
people
talk
about
the
heritage.
Overlay
is
part
of
the
zoning
bylaw.
It
is
not
a
hair.
A
tool
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
is
a
tool
of
the
Planning
Act.
It
is
has
been
applied
to
many
designated
areas,
but
not
many
part
for
buildings,
but
not
all
in
some
areas
of
special
character.
H
It
has
requirements
regarding,
and
there
were,
the
size
and
location
of
additions
and
for
new
construction.
One
of
the
things
that
it
requires
is
that
if
a
building
is
demolished,
it
must
be
reconstructed
must
have
the
same
form
in
massing.
They
want
to
stress
that
it
doesn't
mean
that
a
replacement
building
has
to
be
built.
There
was
no
requirement.
The
city
cannot
require
anyone
to
build
a
building,
but
but
if
a
building
is
going
to,
if
there
is
a
replacement
building,
it
must
meet
the
Heritage
overlay.
H
It
was
also
parking
incentives
within
the
Heritage
overlay
that
don't
that
allow
a
lot
of
property
in
order
to
supply
less
parking
than
their
zoning
bylaw.
We
also
have
the
Official
Plan
two
sections
deal
with
with
heritage
to
point
five
point:
five
and
four
point
six:
these
have
the
policies
regarding
this
than
just
overarching
policies
that
enable
us
to
designate,
etc
and
then
from
more
finely
tuned
policies
regarding
cultural
heritage
in
five
statements
and
other
tools
that
we
use.
We
also
have
the
standards
and
guidelines
produced
by
Parks
Canada,
adopted
by
City
Council
in
2008.
H
We
use
them
evaluating
interventions
and
they
reflect
on
worldwide
practice
in
heritage
conservation.
There's.
Fourteen
standards,
for
example,
one
of
them
is
recognizing,
should
start
places
a
physical
record
of
its
time
place
in
use.
So
these
are
very
useful
for
us
assessing
applications,
but
also
for
the
standards
and
guidelines
can
help
anyone
understand
the
goals
of
heritage
conservation,
but
also
within
the
city.
H
There's
an
official
policy
statement
which
is
part
of
the
Planning
Act
section
two
point:
six
addresses
cultural
heritage
and
it
states
that
significant
bills,
heritage
resources
and
significant
cultural
heritage
landscapes
shall
be
conserved.
So
that
is
a
overarching
principle
of
the
planning
process
in
in
the
province,
and
it
also
has
two
point
six
point:
three
talk
about
the
assessing
and
alterations
on
lands
adjacent
to
heritage,
buildings
that
to
make
sure
and
properties
to
make
sure
that
the
protected
heritage
property
is
respected
and
that's
it
heritage
in
a
very
fast
I
hope,
minutes.
H
B
Thank
you,
miss
Coutts
that
was
very
useful.
I'm.
Certainly
open
I'm
gonna
open
the
floor
for
questions
or
comments.
We
will,
of
course,
have
a
chance
to
get
into
some
of
these
challenges
and
issues
in
greater
detail
at
our
session
in
early
March.
That
said,
if
there
are
any
questions
now
for
miss
Coutts.
Mr.
vice
chair
that.
F
H
B
Wonderful
well
with
that.
Thank
you
very
much
again
for
the
presentation.
We'll
move
on
to
our
next
item
then,
which
is
item
four
on
the
agenda,
which
is
the
designation
of
broadly
public
school
at
590,
bravia
Avenue
under
part
four
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
So
how
we're
going
to
proceed
with
this
item?
Is
we're
going
to
ask
miss
Collins
to
give
us
a
brief
presentation
of
this
item?
Then
we
have
a
number
of
public
delegations
which
would
like
to
speak
to
this.
B
I
Good
morning,
mr.
chair
members
of
the
committee,
thank
you
for
introducing
the
item.
As
you
know,
from
the
agenda,
this
is
a
recommendation
to
designate
Broadview
public
school
at
590,
Broadview
Avenue
under
part
4
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
So
I'm
going
to
reiterate
a
little
bit
of
what
you
just
heard
from
Sally
and
her
9
and
a
half
minute
talk.
I
The
property,
the
subject
property
was
located
at
the
intersection
of
Bob
View
Avenue
and
Dovercourt
Avenue
in
the
Highland
Park
neighborhood
in
West
Ottawa,
the
Ottawa
cozened
District
School
Board
owns
a
large
property
that
includes
both
broad
view:
public
school
as
well
as
Nepean
high
school
to
the
north.
So
the
two
buildings
make
a
large
campus
that
takes
up
a
whole
block.
I
This
photo
here,
it's
a
little
difficult
to
see
because
of
the
lights,
but
we
are
recommending
through
this
report.
The
designation
of
a
very
small
portion
of
this
existing
building.
The
original
portion
of
the
building,
which
was
built
in
1927,
is
what
we
are
recommending
for
designation
in
the
photo
on
the
lower
right.
You
can
see
that
it
is
a
small
portion
of
the
building.
This
is
an
MP
n
high
school
here
and
then
this
is
the
remainder
of
the
school
which
has
been
if
the
school
has
been
added
on
to
incrementally.
I
Since
the
1920s,
this
is
a
historic
photo,
courtesy
of
Professor
Bruce
Elliot
from
Carleton
University,
circa
1933
of
Broadview
public
school.
As
you
will
see
in
the
in
the
coming
photos,
the
building
has
changed
somewhat
since
its
original
construction,
but
essentially
mate
retains
its
form,
scale,
massing,
insa
and
most
of
its
detailing.
This
is
the
school
today.
I
This
is
the
front
facade
facing
onto
Broadview
Avenue,
so
the
only
portion
of
the
building
that
were
recommending
for
designation
is
this
portion
here,
the
two-story
portion
that
is
often
referred
to
by
the
community
as
the
Tower
of
the
school,
because
it
is
taller
than
the
rest
of
the
building.
In
light
of
yesterday's
approval
of
a
55
storey
building,
it's
probably
not
really
a
tower,
but
this
is
you
can
just
sort
of
see
the
South
facade
of
the
building
here.
I
This
is
where
the
first
of
the
additions
was
constructed
in
1947,
so
the
building
continues
south
along
broad
view
and
then
and
then
runs
west
into
form
an
l-shaped
building.
This
is
the
north
facade,
which
has
essentially
remained
unchanged
since
its
construction
and
the
South
facade
would
have
historically
matched
it
exactly.
I
This
is
just
some
photos
of
some
of
the
architectural
details.
The
building
is
red,
brick
and
stone,
so
you
can
see
the
stone
detailing
as
well
as
some
of
the
carved
stone
details.
This
picture
slightly
hard
to
see,
but
this
entablature
has
the
words
public
school
in
size
over
it,
and
this
area
here
would
have
originally
been
the
front
door,
as
we
saw
in
the
historic
photo.
I
So
just
a
little
bit
of
background,
the
property
is
located
in
the
Holland
Park
neighborhood.
It
is,
as
I
said,
adjacent
to
Nepean
High
School.
It
was
constructed
in
1927
after
the
first
school
on
this
site,
which
was
constructed
in
1916,
burned
down.
It
was
designed
by
the
architectural
concepts.
Aria
I've
got
the
conservation
Awards
on
my
mind,
the
out
of
architectural
firm
of
Richard's
in
a
bruh
who
also
designed
Nepean,
High
School
and
the
original
building
on
this
site.
I
Control
application
has
been
submitted
by
the
Ottawa
Carleton
District
School
Board
I'm,
just
going
to
I'm
going
to
let
the
school
board
speak
more
to
their
application
process,
but
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
quickly
the
proposed
site
plan,
so
the
site
plan
shows
the
new
school
building
being
built
at
the
southern
end
of
the
site
facing
onto
Dovercourt
Avenue
the
existing
building.
This
is
sort
of
the
approximate
location
of
it.
It
is
located
where
there
is
a
proposed
surface
parking
lot.
I
So,
as
Sally
mentioned
in
her
presentation,
there
are
three
main
policy
policies
that
we
look
at
when
we're
designating
looking
to
designate
properties.
The
provincial
policy
statement
provides
guidance
that
says
that
significant
built
heritage,
resources
and
significant
cultural
heritage
landscapes
shall
be
conserved.
I
Section
two
point:
five
point:
five
of
the
city's
official
plan
says
that
individual
buildings
will
be
designated
as
properties
of
cultural
heritage
value
under
part.
Four
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
and
section
29
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
gives
municipalities
the
ability
to
designate
properties
of
cultural
heritage
value
under
part.
Four
of
the
Heritage
Act,
as
I
mentioned
or
SLI
mentioned
I,
should
say
the
way
in
which
we
determine
whether
or
not
something
has
cultural
heritage
value
is
through
Ontario
regulation.
Oh
nine,
oh
six,
which
lays
out
the
criteria
for
designation.
I
So
it
requires
that,
in
order
to
be
designated,
a
property
must
meet
at
least
one
of
the
following
criteria,
and
the
criteria
are
designed
physical
value
associated
and
historical
value
and
contextual
value.
I'm
just
going
to
quickly
go
through
these
criteria
as
they
relate
to
broad
view
school.
So
the
first
criteria
is
design
value.
The
criteria
state
that
is
it
a
rare,
unique
representative
or
early
example
of
a
style.
Does
it
display
a
high
degree
of
craftsmanship,
artistic
mirrors,
or
does
it
demonstrate
a
high
degree
of
technical
or
scientific
achievement?
I
In
this
instance,
broad
view,
public
school
is
a
good
example
of
the
collegiate
Gothic
style
of
architecture
popular
for
school
construction
in
the
early
20th
century.
It
has
many
features
that
are
typical
of
this
style,
including
the
brick
and
limestone
that
I
mentioned.
It's
very
symmetrical
facade,
evenly
spaced
windows
and
the
curved
stone
detailing
historical
and
associative
value
is
the
next
category
and
it
states
that
a
property
does
it
have
direct
associations
with
a
theme
event,
belief,
person,
activity,
organization
or
institution.
I
Does
it
yield
information
that
contributes
to
the
understanding
of
a
community
and
does
it
demonstrate
the
work
of
an
architect
who
is
significant?
So
this
this
building
is
associated
with
the
development
of
public
schools
in
European
Township
in
the
early
20th
century
and
the
development
of
the
Highland
Park
neighborhood,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
it
is
the
only
remaining
school
constructed
by
school.
B
E
B
Absolutely
okay,
so
miss
Collins.
If
you
can
maybe
wait
and
we'll
come
back
to
you
later
so
now
in
terms
of
the
public
delegations,
we
have
10
speakers
on
the
list
and
members
of
the
public
when
I
call
you
up.
If
you
could
please
come,
come
forward.
There's
a
chair
here
just
to
miss
Collins
left
and
you
can
take
the
microphone.
We're
gonna
ask
and
we
ask
all
the
time
that
the
oil
submissions
are
limited
to
5
minutes.
B
J
Good
morning
stretch,
oh
thank
you
to
the
committee
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
just
a
few
words
about
who
I
am
I,
am
a
professional
environmental
engineer,
I'm
working
with
the
federal
government
in
their
chemicals
management,
division
and
I'm
a
broad
view,
a
school
parent
of
two
children,
one
of
whom
is
located
in
the
broad
view.
Tower
I.
J
Just
took
this
time
out
to
speak
with
you
today,
because
this
is
an
extremely
important
issue
for
our
community
I'm,
not
part
of
the
better
Babeu
community
I'm,
just
an
independent
observer
that
has
observed
this
dialogue
unfold
over
the
past
number
of
years
and
just
as
a
note,
I
do
appreciate
heritage
conservation
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
live
in
the
neighborhood
that
we
do
so.
As
mentioned
previously
I
the
school
is
built
in
1927
and
Leslie
spoke
to
the
exterior
facade.
J
J
J
There's
a
facility
a
condition
report
for
this
building,
and
it
does
note
that
there
is
the
best
asbestos
present
around
the
pipe
wrapping.
It
is
consider
the
toxic
substance
under
Canadian
weather
station
and
the
building
has
been
subject
to
flooding
and
the
condition
report
does
confirm
that
there's
LED
paid
through
and
cracks
in
the
foundation.
So
that's
just
a
little
bit
of
context
on
the
condition.
I
took
a
few
photos
just
to
give
you
a
and
I
do
have
the
visual
of
the
inside
of
the
building.
These
are
the
classrooms.
J
J
Today,
March
of
2014
last
year,
after
about
10
years
of
effort
of
parents
and
school
board,
officials,
teachers,
administrators
and
politicians,
Broadview
was
awarded
15
point
4
million
for
a
new
bed.
The
school
capacity
is
for
792
students.
This
provincial
money
is
for
a
new
school
build
and
cannot
be
used
for
the
renovation
of
a
existing
building.
So
we
are
on
a
very
tight
timeline
on
ministry.
Approvals
of
the
new
school
are
expected
by
April
15
2015
and
before
the
contract,
tendering
process
is
complete.
J
The
general
contractor
in
architect
need
to
complete
the
final
design
and
by
next
month
and
I'm,
just
as
two
notes
I
personally
and
many
other
parents
I've
spoken
to,
we
do
not
support
affecting
the
broad
view
about
project
in
any
way
based
on
this
heritage
designation.
We
do
expect
the
new
school
to
be
built
on
time
on
budget
and
that
the
current
approved
size
for
the
approximately
hundred
students
also
do
not
support
having
any
students
in
the
existing
broad
new
tower
after
the
rebuild
is
complete
due
to
the
learning
environment.
Thank.
J
J
B
K
Thank
You,
chair
councils
and
citizen
numbers
of
the
committee,
so
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
heritage,
Ottawa
I'm
vice
president,
but
I
also
want
to
declare
an
interest.
I've
lived
in
the
broad
view,
school
area
for
40
years
and
both
my
children
walk
to
school
for
10
years
to
that
building
this
this
presentation
is
in
support
of
the
staff
report
and
I'll
try
to
avoid
repeating
things
that
Miss
Collins
has
already
covered.
We've
had
various
input
so
there's
some
people
listed
on
this
chart.
K
The
you've
seen
this
picture
already
really
when
you
and
you
can
see
a
part
of
Nepean
sitting
just
beyond
the
school
as
it
appeared
in
1933
in
the
PM
of
course,
was
built
in
1922,
so
that
contemporary
same
architects
as
you've
heard
already,
and
you
also
seen
pictures
showing
the
present
condition.
They're
really.
The
only
difference
is
the
modernization
of
windows
in
the
same
openings
and
the
an
role
as
Leslie
was
pointed
out.
K
His
part
from
the
window
is
pretty
much
unmodified
and
some
of
the
decorative
stonework,
as
that
date
storm,
for
example,
which
see
enlarged
in
the
bottom-left
corner.
Those
details
all
still
exist,
so
what
I
want
to
emphasize
is,
first
of
all
that
this
is
a
very
permanent
neighborhood
landmark
and
with
Nepean
high
school.
It
contributes
to
the
streetscape.
The
cross
streets,
Dovercourt
and
Broadview
are
the
two
main
streets
of
the
entire
area.
In
fact,
they're
the
only
two
streets
that
pass
uninterrupted
through
the
area
east-west
and
north-south.
K
Right
now
is
really
not
it's
really
out
of
line
with
today's
values.
If
this
building
has
heritage
value
and
you've
heard
already
that
it
does
also,
one
thing
that
hasn't
been
mentioned
is
that
the
building
contains
10
classrooms,
which
is
exactly
the
same
number
that
are
being
planned
for
portables
to
be
provided
for
them.
Only
the
new
school
opens
and,
in
fact
occupying
a
larger
footprint.
K
I'll
mention
a
little
bit
later,
though
it
doesn't
have
to
do
with
the
designation
possible
future
uses,
and
we
have
already
presented
some
of
this
material
recently
to
the
school
board.
You
heard
that
it's
in
Highland
Park,
it
actually
is
also
forms
the
boundary
of
Michela
Park
and
mikela
is
another
turn-of-the-century
streetcar
suburb.
Together,
they
form
the
West
End
of
kitchen
city,
Ward
and
and
the
school
is
just
as
important
to
mikela
park
as
it
is
to
as
the
Highland
Park.
The
historic
links
wouldn't
be
in
high
school.
K
The
first
year
of
Nepean
operation,
the
school
didn't
exist,
so
the
Nepean
classes
met
on
the
top
floor
of
our
view.
When
Bob
you
burned
down
a
few
years
later,
the
broad
to
have
the
broad
view
classes
met
in
the
peon
high
school.
Until
a
new
school
could
be
built,
there
aren't
many
parts
or
designations
in
the
area
of
the
nearest
one
is
a
kilometer
away
and
is
the
massage
on
dark
and
all
the
other
designations
are
on
the
other
side
of
Richmond
Road
and
are
much
older
buildings.
K
So
there's
not
much
designated
heritage
in
the
area.
Just
to
mention
about
the
architects.
Not
only
were
they
very
significant
architects
in
Ottawa
and
building
schools
up
and
down
the
Ottawa
Valley,
but
they
were
neighbors
near
Richards
lived
at
550,
Broadview,
Avenue,
Broadway,
public
school
is
590
part
of
you
and
the
board
does
support
this
designation.
You've
seen
the
characteristics
of
the
bathing.
I
won't
really
mention
much
here,
except
in
terms
of
the
space
that's
available,
meeting
fire
regulations
and
so
on.
It's
pretty
straightforward.
K
The
basement
is
in
fact,
part
of
a
major
modification
that
was
done
to
the
building
complete
renovation
of
the
washrooms
and
in
fact
there
are
modern
washrooms
in
the
basement,
with
capacity
for
nearly
400
pupils.
According
to
the
building
code
requirements
for
schools,
the
next
two
slides
don't
really
have
anything
to
do
with
whether
you
designate
the
building
or
not,
but
they
have
been
discussed
with
the
school
board,
certainly
to
completely
renovate
the
building
would
cost
a
lot
but
to
bring
it
up
to
use
for
a
temporary
classroom.
K
Space
would
be
much
less,
and
this
is
based
on
the
evaluation.
That's
been
done
by
Ken
elder
I,
think
I'm
running
out
of
time
right,
I'm
getting
the
evil
eye.
So
we
can
leave
these
last
two
slides,
but
we
think
that
there's
plenty
of
potential
for
future
use
of
this
building
which
we
are
discussing
with
the
school
board,
but
your
decision
is
going
to
be
based
on
the
on
the
Heritage
values
of
the
building,
not
on
its
future
use.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
L
My
name
is
Claire
Todd
and
I
feel
like
a
new
comer
who
here
some
of
the
credentials,
the
people
in
the
neighborhood
but
I've
been
a
Bobbie
parent
for
five
years
and
I've
lived
in
McKellar
Park
for
twelve
and
I.
Was
the
chair.
A
chair
of
broad
views,
parent
council
for
two
years
from
2011
to
2013
and
I
was
also
involved
in
advocating
for
money
for
broad
view
to
be
rebuilt.
L
The
renovation
became
a
rebuild,
and
at
that
point
we
learned
that
every
part
of
the
building
envelope
was
failing.
The
heating,
the
electrical.
The
plumbing
systems
required
critical
attention:
the
state
of
the
foundation,
the
windows,
the
roof,
the
basement,
they're
all
flagged
for
urgent
repair
and,
in
addition,
the
challenge
of
the
presence
of
hazardous
materials
makes
even
the
tiniest
maintenance
project
at
bravia
a
pretty
big
deal.
We
have
to
displace
students
so
that
proper
abatement
measures
can
happen
and
I
brought
the
facility
conditions
report
with
me.
L
It's
a
big
document
pages
and
there's
a
hundred
analysis
about
another
report.
I
haven't
printed
it
it's
the
designated
substance
report,
it's
a
hundred
and
seventy-five
pages
and
it
itemizes
every
everything
in
the
building
and
it's
state
of
repair
go
down
bad
and
it
doesn't
itemize
just
where
the
tower
is,
but
it
might
be
worth
looking
at
now.
L
L
He
had
a
holiday
at
last
June
because
the
air-conditioning
was
down
for
one
day,
so
teachers
and
students
that
Broadview
they
work
in
conditions
that
most
adults
wouldn't
work
in
in
1976,
when
Broadview
received
sort
of
its
last
significant
renovation
funding,
I
was
in
grade
3
in
a
small
Northern
Ontario
school
that
was
built
to
celebrate
the
Centennial
and
in
1976
my
grade
3
classroom.
It
had
more
electrical
plugs
than
my
children's
classroom.
So,
like
some
of
these
things
are
just
I
shake
my
head.
L
So
while
I'm
saying
this
really
is,
please
do
not
designate
any
part
of
the
the
current
building.
Parents
I
think
parents
in
the
community.
We
are
supportive
of
heritage
and
I
think.
What
worries
us
is
that
we're
sort
of
we
are
opposed
to
the
prospect
of
continuing
to
use
the
tower
to
house
students
and
I.
L
L
I
think
that
if
pre-war
Broadview
is
considered
by
the
experts
by
you
to
be
really
important
to
the
story
of
Ottawa
and
really
to
the
story
of
Ontario,
there
needs
to
be
funding
that
recognizes
this
value
and
I
think
that
that's
our
huge
frustration
as
parents
and
even
as
the
community,
it
just
seems
wrong.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
Thank.
B
B
B
E
I
E
E
E
Hello,
my
name
is
Jay
Hooper
I
am
a
parent
community,
member,
mmoyer
and
I,
say
I'm
a
lawyer
just
so
that
you
can
understand
the
view
that
I
take
of
this.
It's
more
of
an
evidence
in
fact
base
view
than
perhaps
others.
I
was
part
of
the
review
movement
trying
to
get
funding
for
this,
and
it
is
a
very
difficult
task
to
get
funding.
I
echo
everything
that
Claire
todd
has
just
told
you
with
respect
to
the
funding
issues
with
respect
to
my
presentation
and
then
look
at
facts
and
evidence.
E
Hopefully
you
will
try
to
discern
between
facts
and
evidence
and
just
argument.
It's
a
difficult
process
to
understand
as
a
parent,
because
I
haven't
told
prior
to
coming
here
today
that
this
is
a
foregone
conclusion.
I
haven't
told,
but
the
backroom
channels
have
all
been
the
tease
of
all
been
crossed
and
I's
are
dotted
and
that
really
this
is
going
to
be
declared
heritage.
So
I'm
hoping
that
that
is
not
the
case.
E
E
So
I'm
going
to
base
my
presentation
on
myths
versus
facts,
myth
number
one
the
tower
can
be
used
to
replace
poor.
That
is
simply
not
true.
That
is
a
misinformation
and
rumor
that
has
been
circulated
throughout
the
community.
The
OCD
SB
staff
has
been
asked
this
directly
and
as
posted
the
following
answer
on
their
website
and
for
the
interest
of
time
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
the
answer.
It's
in
my
presentation,
which
I
understand
you
have
but
they've
only
been
started
for
782
spots.
E
If
you
put
a
spot
in
the
tower,
you
take
a
spot
away
from
the
main
building,
so
you
will
hear
that
it's
temporary,
you
know
here
are
their
submissions
on
this
and
I
understand.
The
future
use
is
not
in
their
consideration
which
I
find
difficult
to
fathom,
but
it
is
not
a
replacement
for
the
portables
our
counselor
NEPA
has
they
do
his
own
position
on
this
issue,
and
this
was
part
of
the
reason
that
I
expressed
a
little
frustration
is
mr.
E
E
The
City
of
Ottawa
on
its
website
has
indicated
it
has
its
own
commitment
to
meeting
these
requirements
and
should
is
therefore
I'm
asking
this
committee
to
understand.
It
should
not
be
making
a
decision
that
could
to
accessibility
on
a
public
school
campus
myth
number
three
accessible
issues
is
simple
to
address.
Put
in
some
ramps
and
elevators.
E
Recent
presentation
for
the
OCD
SB
suggests
an
elevator
can
be
easily
put
into
this
building,
as
well
as
ramping
and
I
want
you
to
review
the
follower
with
a
bit
of
common
sense.
This
is
the
diagram
that
was
presented
in
the
OCD
SB,
with
respect
to
elevators
in
ramping,
several
elevators,
several
ramps,
no
provision
for
costs
now
you've
heard
that
there
are
two
washrooms
in
this
building
both
are
in
the
basement.
My
daughter,
ghost
is
on
the
top
floor
of
the
tower.
E
She
has
to
walk
down
four
floors
to
go
to
the
bathroom
once
she
reaches
the
bathroom,
where
the
elevator
I
guess
would
come
to
the
basement.
You
then
have
to
go
up
three
steps
to
the
last
room,
so
even
if
you
put
an
elevator
in
it's
not
going
to
become
accessible
and
there's
no
place
for
ramps,
you've
already
seen
this
picture
with
effectiveness,
Chung's
presentation:
this
is
the
hallway
between
the
washrooms
I.
E
Don't
have
a
tape
measure
there,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
there's
no
real
chill
it's
going
to
fit
between
the
hallway
between
the
washrooms,
and
that
is
an
electrical
panel
and
solid,
solid
structure
in
a
wall
that
would
not
be
easily
widened.
So
there's
this
is
not
a
bearing
that's
going
to
be
made
accessible.
E
If
you
still
don't
believe
it'll
be
caught
for
her
to
make
this
building
accessible.
Go.
Ask
your
own
experts,
the
City
of
the
City
of
Ottawa,
plays
employees
building
experts
that
can
look
at
this
and
give
you
an
estimate.
The
OCD
SBS
today
is
4
to
5
million,
just
to
make
the
tower
use
usable
by
anyone
just
to
make
it
usable
by
the
first
student,
it's
four
or
five
million
dollars.
That
estimation
does
not
include
an
elevator
that
makes
brings
me
to
myth
for
the
OCD
SB
confront
is.
E
Yeah
you've
heard
about
the
cut
the
Capitol
issues.
I
have
evidence
on
my
powerpoint
presentation
about
the
issues
with
respect
to
it,
leaving
with
one
thing.
This
is
not
the
end
of
the
discussion
with
respect
to
the
city.
If
you
feel
that
you
need
to
have
some
personal
investment
in
this
decision,
understand
your
own
potential
liability
if
you
grant
Harwich
status
with
any
future
use-
and
this
becomes
a
derelict
building,
my
submission
is-
is
that
the
city
of
Iowa
could
be
found
potentially
responsible
if
anyone
gets
hurt.
Thank.
B
B
A
parent
and
your
concerns
about
the
future
use
of
the
school
but
I.
Think,
as
you
know,
that's
not
our
responsibility.
What
we're
looking
at
is
whether
or
not
it
should
be
designated
heritage.
You
didn't
touch
on
that
subject
and
I
wondered
whether
or
not
you
believe
this
building
does
have
heritage
merit,
because
that's
what
we're
here
to
discuss.
E
With
that,
because
I
honestly
don't
believe
that
that
with
any
future
use,
you
can
distinguish
something
that
has
heritage
if
you
are
going
to
have
something
your
own.
Miss
Collins
also
indicated
that
all
that
has
to
happen
is
that
the
building
has
to
be
made
safe,
the
roof
has
to
be
maintained
and
it
could
be
boarded
up.
That
is
not
what
anyone
in
this
field
you
want.
I
have
put,
in
my
end
of
my
presentation,
a
proposal,
an
answer
to
your
question.
E
If
you
feel
this
is
heritage
and
this
warrants
heritage
give
a
temporary
status,
this
tower
decision
doesn't
need
to
happen
until
2016.
By
that
time,
individuals
can
put
whatever
funding
they
need
to
put
in
to
give
a
plan,
but
you're
asking
saying
we
don't
have
to
decide
future
usage.
We
only
have
to
decide
heritage
and
that's
that's
not
our
problem.
The
issue,
sir,
is
that
the
City
of
Ottawa
has
that
other
planning
issues
where
third
player
liability
has
been
put
on
against
the
City
of
Ottawa.
E
If
they,
if
that
planning,
hasn't
gone
through
just
look
at
the
ash,
trees
that
are
affected
third
party
residents
and
then
they
successfully
sue
the
city
of
Ottawa
for
your
planning
issues.
If
you
feel
that
the
heritage
wants
it,
then
let's
all
work
together
and
make
sure
that
building
becomes
what
everyone
wants.
Let's
wait
until
2016,
okay.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
response.
No
other
questions
before
we
go
to
next,
because
I
do
want
to
disabuse
any
notion
that
there
was
a
backroom
deal
or
a
foregone
conclusion.
I
think
I
speak
on
behalf
of
the
committee
and
saying
we
take
the
public
delegation
process
very
seriously.
The
vote
will
happen
after
that
that
occurs,
and
after
there
is
a
discussion,
so
I
did
want
to
correct
what
I
think
is
a
misperception.
So
the
next
speaker
on
my
list
is
Tudor
Robbins.
G
Hi,
thanks
for
having
me
I
also
like
Jay,
have
a
feeling
that
there
needs
to
be
more
link
between
past
and
future
when
we
consider
these
things,
and
so
that
may
come
out
of
it
and
what
I
have
to
say.
Just
let
you
know
who
I
am
I'm
the
fourth
generation
of
my
family
to
live
in
the
Broadview
community.
G
My
great-grandfather
actually
built
a
large
brick
house
on
the
corner
of
Kenwood
and
Hillcrest
avenues.
It
is,
ironically,
slated
to
be
torn
down
very
soon.
I
personally
attended
Churchill
public
school
Amazo,
John
dog,
which
was
already
mentioned
as
a
designated
building
in
our
neighborhood,
and
and
also
robbed
UN
MPN
high
school.
My
children
currently
attend
by
view,
and
we
live
in
a
home
that
was
built
in
1927.
G
So
the
same
time
as
this
building
and
so
I
really
love
these
old
buildings,
I
would
say:
I
have
a
fairly
broad
perspective
on
and
affection
for
this
neighborhood.
This
is
a
neighborhood
I
chose
to
live
in,
and
this
is
the
type
of
neighborhood
I've
saw
that
whenever
I've
lived
in
other
Ontario
communities
and
I
do
that,
because
these
neighborhoods
are
vibrant
and
special
for
nearly
two
decades.
The
approach
to
new
school
construction
in
our
province
has
meant
these
neighborhoods
have
been
starved
of
one
of
the
biggest
contributors
to
the
vitality
of
core
heritage.
G
Neighborhoods,
that's
functioning.
Schools
that
meet
our
students
needs.
They
simply
haven't
been
made
and
there's
been
an
active
policy
against
rebuilding
and
replacing
them
in
core
neighborhoods
across
our
province
and
in
ours
in
our
city.
So
when
a
group
of
dedicated
parents
set
out
to
convince
all
levels
of
decision
makers
of
a
need
for
a
rebuilt
Broadview,
it
was
only
partly
because
of
the
inaccessibility,
the
dangerous
materials
and
the
restrictive
learning
conditions
in
our
particular
building.
G
G
So
you
know
many
times
over
the
last
weeks
and
months,
I've
heard
and
read
the
sentiment.
How
do
we
protect
and
keep
our
neighborhoods
alive
if
we
throw
away
our
past,
but
my
really
belief
is
that
a
more
pressing
question
right
now
is:
how
do
we
keep
these
neighborhoods
alive
if
they
can't
support
the
present
and
future
generations?
I
fear
a
restrictive
heritage,
designation
for
the
tower
portion
of
existing
Bob
view
building
will
be
enough
to
hamper
the
very
fragile
political
and
sensitive
rebuilt
process.
G
G
G
Yes,
there
may
be
arguments
there,
but
for
those
who
have
said
that
the
interior
is
a
disaster,
it's
worse
than
a
disaster,
not
I
do
not
want
my
child
in
that
school.
It
is
not
a
suitable
learning
environment
and
I
really
really
really
want
to
see
that
we
do
balance
the
past
in
the
future
and
that
we
don't
save
one
at
the
cost
of
the
other.
B
A
A
As
you
consider
a
designation
of
a
portion
of
the
broad
view,
public
school
I
would
first
like
to
tell
you
that
the
committee
members,
that,
as
the
owners
of
significant
real
estate
across
this
city,
the
OCDs
B,
does
understand
our
role
as
a
public
body
in
maintaining
these
properties
to
the
benefit
of
all
the
people
of
Ottawa.
We
consider
ourselves
good
stewards
of
the
schools
and
buildings
we
own
and
value
their
place
in
the
city
wherever
and
whenever
we
feel
that
is
possible
and
prudent.
A
A
In
the
case
of
Broadview
public
school,
the
school
community,
community
and
facility
improvement
needs
or
assessed
to
be
significant
enough,
but
we
have
been
granted
the
funding
to
rebuild
the
school
in
its
entirety
on
the
current
site.
The
portion
of
the
existing
schools
subject
of
today's
meeting
was
not
intended
to
be
worked
into
our
development
plans.
A
Indeed,
keeping
the
portion
the
tower
portion
of
building
does
complicate
the
future
planning
for
this
site
in
a
very
real
way.
We
have
tried
to
incorporate
sympathetic
features
in
the
new
and
school
that
honor
the
history
of
the
property.
As
the
new
bad
view,
public
school
is
used
for
generations
to
come.
We
hope.
A
A
B
K
Wood,
thank
you
for
that.
There
are
I,
think
approximately
90
parking
spots
that
have
been
proposed
for
the
site
if
the
City
of
Ottawa
were
willing
to
work
with
you
to
reduce
that
number
to
reduce
the
impact
of
preserving
the
tower.
If
it
is
designated,
are
you
willing
to
look
at
reducing
those
number
of
parking
spots?
Councillor.
A
B
N
N
Of
course,
we
are
aware
that
this
is
existing
campus,
as
demonstrated
on
this
on
this
picture,
and
our
vision
for
new
school
was
based
both
on
the
educational,
providing
education
facility
for
22
support,
21st
century
learning,
and
also
to
build
upon
the
rich
history
of
the
site,
existing
buildings
on
site
and
materiality
of
the
existing
buildings.
But
we
also
recognize
that
the
requires
spaces
for
the
numerous
activities
and
also
the
fact
that
there
will
be
more
than
800.
Students
of
site
needs
major
improvements
in
both
the
pedestrian
circulation,
as
well
as
the
traffic.
N
So
the
next
slide,
please
very
quickly.
This
has
been
your
campus
as
it
will
see
on
the
note
site,
existing
pipian
High
School
on
the
south
side,
our
score
being
a
gateway
to
community
and
incorporating
the
feature
of
the
existing
school.
How
did
we
go
about
it?
First
of
all
next
slide.
Please
built
upon
our
knowledge
of
existing
site.
We
have.
We
went
to
great
lengths
to
identify
values
of
the
site
and
brought
the
character
and
simply
existing
building
mystic
massing
details
and
covariant
features.
We
are
very
familiar
with
the
history
of
the
site.
N
Next
slide,
please.
We
have
identified
and
catalog
important
attributes
of
character
and
as
well
as
some
existing
buildings
and
base,
and
with
this
knowledge
we
have
created
design,
that's
led
piece
which
incorporates
many
of
those
features.
First
of
all,
and
that
decide
the
demonstrate
that
it
is
a
two-story
brick
building
with
the
type
of
and
massing
that
is
sympathetic
to
existing.
N
Cooperated
window
flailings,
which
were
present
in
both
characters
and
the
latest
later
design.
There
are
stone
components
the
points
components
as
you
can
see,
as
well
as
the
whole
experience,
urbanistic
experience
of
tower
and
main
entrance
next
slide.
Inhibition
related
this
building
to
into
the
application
of
talk
to
educate
students
about
the
existing
building
and
the
resistant
community.
N
As
you
can
see,
the
features
include
the
endow
in
inside
the
school
does
a
swabbie
which
will
be
interactive
to
that
student,
the
community
to
learn
about
the
school,
the
school,
the
components
of
the
school
designed
by
students.
They
will
ask
students
for
the
memories
of
the
school
and
will
incorporate
them
into
the
elevations.
You
can
see
that
next.
N
B
M
Unusually,
for
May
I
will
take
a
break
from
the
presentations.
I.
Just
have
a
couple
comments
first
good
morning,
mr.
chair,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
having
us
here
today.
As
you
can
tell,
this
is
very
important
in
the
community.
My
role
in
this
is
I.
Am
the
co-chair
of
the
school
council
of
broad
view
and
I
feel
my
role
is
to
always
look
at.
M
You
know
what
my
predecessors,
what
the
school's
main
purpose
is,
and
that's
really
to
look
at
the
bit,
how
we
can
benefit
to
kids
with
a
very
active
community,
that's
very
active
in
all
aspects
of
the
school,
their
learning
environment.
The
celebration
of
activities
were
very
lucky
that
our
funds
can
be
used
to
raise
and
empower
a
better
learning
environment.
In
over
the
past
decade,
parents,
educators,
the
trustees
and
the
board
have
talked
about
what
we
could
do
with
broad
view.
To
make
this
a
modern
learning
environment.
M
Many
different
ideas
were
passed
as
we
heard
earlier,
the
build
better
barbecue
team
came
out
asking
for
upgrades
to
the
school
which
hadn't
been
done
since
1976.
This
led
to
a
lot
of
discussion,
a
lot
of
fervor
and
discussion
across
many
parts
of
the
u.s.
DSP
or
DSP
sorry,
Otto,
Carlton
district
school
board.
Looking
at
what
could
be
done
with
regards
to
broad
view,
they
even
looked
a
casement
whether
the
school
would
be
potentially
demolished
altogether
and
the
and
the
students
could
go
other
other
places.
M
Obviously,
where
we
left
where
we
ended
up
was
the
school
itself
recognized.
It
was
no
longer
smart
to
be
throwing
good
money
after
bad
and
investing
in
the
school
there
were
safety
deficiencies
or
handicap
deficiencies.
There
are
concerns
about.
You
know
the
building
as
a
long-term
facility
for
housing
students.
The
most
important
thing
for
me
in
our
role
is
to
always
consider
the
safety
of
the
kids,
their
learning
environment
and
the
educators
that
work
and
live
in
this
environment.
I.
Think
it's
important
and
we've
heard
it
several
times.
Even
mr.
M
Lee
Perez
talked
about
it
in
his
comments
in
the
application.
There
is
safety
concerns
with
the
school
and
with
the
ongoing
establishment
of
the
of
the
tower
if
it
is
designated
a
Heritage
status.
We've
hired
points
where
this
takes
up
a
very
small
part
of
a
very
large
campus
and
I
think
that's
something
that
we
need
to
to
reflect
on
when
this
is
2
percent
10
percent
of
50
percent.
If
this
creates
an
environment
that
the
other
day
cannot
be
maintained
and
Heritage
status
has
three
key
points
that
that
we
reviewed
earlier.
M
However,
none
of
us
considered
the
safety
of
children.
We
have
over
2000
kids
on
this
campus,
a
range
from
age
4
to
age
18.
Since
I've
lived
in
this
neighborhood
we've
seen
fires
at
the
school
we've
been
we've
had
reported
break-ins
there
will
be
vandalism
by
leaving
a
potentially
damaged
building
for
any
period
of
time
will
creates
challenges
to
be
maintained
and
welcome
to
create
concerns
with
the
community
or
3
yards
to
say
to
the
children.
There's
a
great
campus
here,
I
think
there's
a
broader
discussion.
M
As
we've
heard,
this
school
was
built
in
27
or
is
rebuilt
in
27.
I
should
say:
Nepean
is
a
wonderful
school
itself
that
is
celebrated
92
years
in
existence,
so
we
should
consider
heritage
as
a
campus
discussion
and
all
the
buildings
they're
in,
and
what
we're
really
trying
to
do
here
and
I
feel
hard.
You
be.
M
What
we're
trying
to
do
here
is
very
environment
where
the
community
can
come
together
versus
the
way
it's
been
torn
apart
right
now
with
regard
to
this
heritage
discussion
and
ensure
that
our
children
have
a
place
where
they
will
learn,
and
they
will
probably
be
proud
when
their
kids
go
to
school,
that
we're
looking
at
building
in
decades
to
come.
Thank
you
thank.
B
D
Good
morning,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Ashley.
Brassfield
I
have
served
as
communications
for
the
Broadview
school
council
and
on
the
build
a
better
body
committee
since
I
joined
fellow
body
parents
to
form
this
committee
three
years
ago,
I'm
also
a
mother
of
an
eight
year
old
who
currently
attends
Broadview
and
a
four
year
old,
who
is
soon
to
attend
Broadview
in
my
role
at
Bob?
D
D
This
was
a
long
path
and
the
decision
was
not
made
easily.
The
renovation
was
considered
as
you've
heard,
but
dismissed
for
many
reasons,
including
the
sorbets
and
costs
to
renovate
the
school
to
today's
standards
and
the
logistical
challenges
of
where
to
house
our
nearly
1,000
students.
The
decision
to
rebuild
Barbie
was
made
by
the
board
and
the
ministry
as
the
best
way
for
our
students
in
our
community
a
very
important
and
monumental
decision
that
recognizes
the
need
to
once
again
invest
in
Ottawa
core
schools.
D
The
fact
that
our
community
received
funding
to
build
a
new
school
opens
many
doors
were
not
only
our
children
but
also
our
community.
This
is
something
to
celebrate
yet
we're
here.
Faced
with
the
decision
that
is
not
focused
and
what
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
children
of
our
community
and
its
impact
on
the
youngest
members
of
our
society,
but
whether
bricks
and
mortar
should
be
preserved
for
the
sake
of
heritage
and
posterity,
the
historic
value
of
our
society's
infrastructure
as
they
import.
D
But
the
evaluation
of
its
true
value
should
never
be
made
in
isolation
without
full
consideration
of
its
purpose
and
his
impact.
And
so
it
is
incredibly
disheartening
that,
after
years
of
working
for
a
better
environment
for
our
children,
the
very
people
who
have
the
power
to
enforce
designation
of
the
tower
have
no
accountability.
To
provide
funding
to
ensure
it
is
a
safe
and
appropriate
learning
environment
for
educational
needs
of
our
children.
D
Today,
no
accountability
to
ensure
that,
if
left
vacant,
it
does
not
pose
a
safety
hazard
to
the
hundreds
of
young
children
who
will
play
all
around
it
and
possibly
in
it,
and
they
will
plan
for
its
future.
Our
own
city
councilor,
mr.
Lieber,
who
supposedly
represents
the
best
interest
of
our
community,
is
more
intent
on
supporting
this
campaign
platform
than
supporting
the
nearly
1,000
children
abroad
view
not
to
mention
that
thousands,
yet
to
be
impacted
by
his
decision.
D
You
say:
council
labor
that
you're
confident
the
designation
of
the
tower
will
not
impact
the
rebirth
of
our
view.
Yet
you
have
no
say
in
what
the
board
does
with
its
property
and
you
and
you
back
a
decision
that
not
only
delays
the
rebuild,
but
if
designated
could
force
the
board
to
draw
from
its
already
limited
funds
to
restore
the
tower
a
decision
that
most
definitely
impacts
the
size
and
caliber
of
the
new
school.
This
is
not
a
long-term
vision.
D
This
is
not
considering
what
is
in
the
best
interest
of
those
who
have
no
voice
here
and
who
need
your
support.
The
most
I
hope
that
all
of
you
can
look
past
the
architecture
to
appreciate
that
the
decision
you
make.
Isn't
it
just
about
any
building,
it
is
a
school,
a
school
that
no
longer
supports
the
children
of
our
community.
I
choose
to
put
our
children
first
I
hope
he
will
do
the
same.
Thank
you.
B
C
Good
morning,
good
morning,
hi
thanks
for
letting
me
speak,
my
name
is
Sarah.
I
have
Ryan
I've
three
kids
at
bribe.
You
and
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
and
I
am
supportive
of
the
heritage.
Designation,
I
also
pass
school
council
member
I'm,
a
professional
geologist
and
I
do
environmental
site
assessments
and
have
done
some
designated
substance.
Work
I
already
know
the
ways
that
I'm
supportive
of
the
designation
is
that
the
school
is
located
at
the
top
of
the
hill
in
the
center
of
the
neighborhood
and
other
than
the
Nepean
high
school.
C
It's
one
of
the
only
remaining
community
buildings
in
the
area
as
a
reminder
among
the
residential
homes
of
the
neighborhood's
history.
It's
a
redis
representative,
the
neighborhood's
past.
It's
a
modest
small
village
school.
It
has
charm
as
the
last
remaining
school
three
built
by
the
old
village
and
is
designed
by
local
architect
who
lived
on
the
street.
The
current
plan
is
demolished
the
building
in
2016,
which
would
be
the
hundredth
birthday
of
the
original
school
building
which
brought
down
in
1926
on
New
Year's
Eve
after
the
caretakers
stoked
the
coal
furnace.
C
There's
a
lot
of
history
there.
That
should
be
maintained.
There's
been
a
lot
of
arguments
about
the
furnace.
Now
the
furnace
is
located
in.
One
of
the
extensions
that
would
be
demolished
in
the
school
would
get
a
new
furnace
flooding.
If
you
notice
the
building
is
built
on
the
raised
basement.
Apparently,
the
old
architect
knew
that
you
need
to
raise
the
basement
in
order
to
stop
the
building
from
flooding,
asbestos
and
lead,
and
this
part
of
the
building,
it's
minimal.
C
These
hundred-page
reports
you're
talking
about
before
mostly
to
the
older,
the
newer
parts
of
the
building.
You
know
that
newer
than
nineteen
twenty
six,
that
is
my
son,
is
in
the
top
of
the
school
building.
He
has
a
teacher
who's
new
to
the
school
unaware
of
the
controversy,
and
she
tells
me
it's
the
best
classroom.
She
has
it's
big,
it's
bigger
than
the
other
classrooms.
It
has
big
windows,
she
likes
it
she's
happy
there
and
it
has
heritage
value.
C
C
It
seems
to
me
that
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
in
this
committee
is
in
this
place
for
this
very
situation
where
the
landowner
has
gone
ahead
and
plan
to
redevelop
their
property
without
proper
infill
consideration
of
the
heritage
value
so
I'm
just
gonna
say
again
that
I
am
a
parent
at
Bob.
You
I,
live
in
the
community
and
I'm
fully
supportive
of
the
heritage
destination.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
B
You
very
much
ms
Ryan
I'm
just
looking
to
see
if
there
are
any
questions
from
committee
members
seeing
none.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
out
and
since
that's
the
last
of
our
public's,
because,
let
me
just
say
a
broader
thank
you
to
all
of
you.
I
know
that
coming
to
these
meetings
is
never
straightforward,
you
all
lead
busy
lives.
The
timing
doesn't
make
it
easy
for
those
who
are
work
who
have
work
or
other
responsibilities.
So
we
do
really
appreciate
your
interest
in
your
engagement
on
this
issue.
B
O
Thank
you,
I
just
put
holes
in
my
mouth,
so
if
you
hear
some
clacking,
it
was
that
or
a
coughing
fit
so
I.
You
know
I
come
to
this
this
meeting
today,
new
on
the
built
heritage
committee
and
and
these
decisions
can
be
difficult
to
make.
We
we
hear
from
both
sides-
and
you
know,
contrary
to
any
anything
said
today.
If
there
were
any
backroom
deals,
I
certainly
wasn't
part
of
it.
O
Just
just
over
unto
my
colleague
Jeff
Lee
Bruce
Ward,
including
my
eight-year-old
daughter,
who
goes
there
as
well
so
Devonshire
I
learned
as
I
read
this
report.
I
was
very
proud
to
learn.
You
know
shares
the
same
design
value
and
probably
a
lot
of
the
same
concerns
that
I
heard
from
parents
today.
You
know
my
some
of
the
kids
are
in
the
basement,
learning
and
there's
an
elevator
that
has
to
be
put
in,
and
you
know,
but
I
just
wondered.
Do
you
know
offhand?
O
Do
we
have
any
schools
in
the
in
the
urban
core
that
we
would
be
looking
at
designating
heritage
that
wouldn't
require
some
retrofitting
on
a
pretty
large
scale?
It
you
know,
is
there
you
know,
I,
think
that
you
know
I
go
back
to
and
I'll
just
finish
my
question
with
a
comment.
You
know:
I
go
back
to
every
level
of
government,
including
us,
including
this
level.
O
We
have
a
responsibility
for
investing
in
our
heritage,
investing
in
our
infrastructure
and
when
we
don't
do
it,
things
fall
apart
and
when
things
you
know
start
to
fall
apart,
I
don't
like
to
see
it
become
one
or
the
other.
You
know
we
didn't
invest.
Therefore
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
issues,
but
we
don't
save
our
heritage.
So
I'd
like
to
just
ask
you
know
offhand
and
I:
don't
know
whether
you
know
the
particulars,
but
is
there
a
school
that
we
could
be
looking
at
designating
heritage
that
wouldn't
require
some
investment
through.
H
You
mr.
chair
I,
can
bring
the
committee
up
to
date
also
on
schools
that
are
designated
much
more
public
school
as
a
designated
school
built
in
the
1890s.
It
is
currently
having
a
very
large
addition
belts
on
it
and
to
bring
it
up
up
to
current
standards
and
to
accommodate
all-day
kindergarten.
First
avenue
public
school
is
also
designated
under
part
for
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
Its
major
work
was
was
undertaken
prior
to
its
designation,
but
certainly
there's
been
major
work
at
First
Avenue.
H
H
But
you
know
the
the
report
is
to
designate
the
bricks
and
mortar
not
to
perpetuate
the
use
of
students.
Using
this
particular
school
were
designating
a
school
that
has
culture
recommending
the
designation
of
a
school
has
cultural
heritage
value.
You
know
it
is
beyond
what
this
community
can
do
and
what
staff
can
recommend
to
record
that
that
it
continued
to
be
a
school.
That's
not
something
that's
addressed
through
the
Heritage
Act.
E
That's
it:
okay,
I
just
want
to
get
it
clear.
In
my
mind,
you're
designating
the
original
old
part,
but
they've
been
a
lot
of
huge
additions
put
on
since
then,
and
those
additions
are
when
you
have
those
numbers
circled
up.
Where
are
those
additions?
Can
you
point
them
out
of
some
way,
but
then
they're
obviously
going
to
be
demolished
I
take
it.
I
This
is
the
proposed
so
plan
through
you,
mr.
chair,
so
I've
only
shown
the
approximate
location
of
the
original
school,
but
what
I'm
going
to
show
you
is
I
think
the
aerial
photo
is
probably
more
useful.
So
if
you
look
at
the
top
photos,
sorry
the
top
photo.
So
the
portion
in
red
here
is
the
1927
portion
of
the
school.
All
of
this,
the
various
additions
that
have
been
constructed
over
time-
and
all
of
this
is
not
included
in
the
proposed
designation
so
again
on
the
lower
photo.
Here's
the
portion
that's
proposed
for
designation.
I
E
We
were
doing
that
so
you
can
heat
the
school
in
operation
of
where
new
school
is
open.
That
happens
often
that's
on.
So
the
it's
a
really
a
very
small
piece
on
the
entire
property.
For
the
second
question
that
was
sort
of
raised
was
the
fact
of
the
Interior
and
its
problems,
which
I
think
that's
why
we've
had
some
I
was
a
Malayalee
boy.
When
we
started
doing
our
lively
renovations,
we
ran
into
asbestos
all
of
those
things
we
have
to
deal
with
it.
E
I
have
an
SS
number
one
in
my
ward
versus
built
in
eighth
in
the
1890s
we
restored
it
many
years
ago,
but
they've
found
more
things
now
and
it's
been
closed
for
some
time
to
get
restoration.
This
building
was
the
same
way,
so
it
can
be
done.
It's
not
easy,
but
there
is
obviously
if
they
take
that
down
they're
not
going
to
be
losing
very
much
of
their
play.
Space
I
think
it
was
risks
and
the
I
think
was
John.
E
Dave
Jean
said
that
David
that
they
could
be
made
into
a
community
center
and
that
would
require
a
partnership
with
the
city
or
a
community
group
of
some
sort.
We
have
those
in
other
places
and
it
could
be
rented
it
more
easily.
So
the
question
is
I:
don't
like
the
idea
of
a
derelict
building
and
putting
it
and
making
it
derelict,
makes
no
sense
at
all.
Has
any
thought
been
given
to
how
it
could
be
used,
or
are
we
just
looking
at
the
designation
now
and
that
would
have
to
come
in
the
future?
I.
I
Threw
you
mister
chair
at
this
point
in
time
we
are
looking
only
at
the
designation.
That
being
said,
the
Planning
Department
is
is
very
willing
to
work
with
the
school
board
to
come
to
a
new
use
for
the
building.
The
designation
does
not,
as
Sally
mentioned,
does
not
restrict
the
use
of
the
building
to
being
used
as
a
school.
I
think
there
are
several
examples
in
the
city
of
former
schools
that
have
been
reused
as
residential
buildings
and
former
churches
that
have
been
used
as
community
centers
and
fire
halls
that
are
community
centers.
I
So
adaptive
reuse
is
something
that
you
know
sort
of
the
sky's
the
limit
in
terms
of
the
types
of
use
that
could
go
in
a
building.
We
we
do
need
to
find
somebody
who
might
want
to
do
it
and,
of
course
it
is
still
the
school
board's
building.
So
it
is
their
their
choice
if
they
want
to
enter
into
some
sort
of
agreement
with
the
private
sector
or
the
public
sector.
That's.
E
That's
a
possibility.
I
know
the
school
board
has
problems
getting
funny
to
do
the
schools
I'm
quite
aware
of
that
I
think
everybody
in
the
community
is
I,
don't
like
to
having
it,
but
on
the
other
hand,
this
is
a
unique
building,
so
I've
been
struggling
with
it,
so
I
like
to
support
the
school
board
and
getting
their
new
school
to,
because
what
they
do
for
the
children
is
so
terribly
important.
On
the
other
hand,
like
that
site
is
so
large
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
hinder
their
ability
to
have
it
there.
E
Their
problem
is
what
are
they
going
to
do
with
it
and
they
don't
have
any
money
to
fix
it
up,
but
I
and
unfortunately
we
don't
have
good
grants
anymore
for
heritage
properties.
I
know
in
the
past
the
province
had
them,
I'll
use
them.
I
have
my
church
was
built
in
1839.
We
had
it
des
I
had
a
designated
exterior,
just
like
this
would
be
an
hole
inside
has
been
redone,
except
for
the
what
holds
it
up,
which
is
kind
of
important
and
the,
and
we
got
a
grant
at
that
time
from
the
provincial
government.
E
So
I
think
just
what
I'll
tell
the
public
that
that's
some
of
the
things
we
are
looking
at
to
see
that
if
we're
going
to
have
heritage
destinations
and
make
them
happen,
if
it
adds
cost
to
people,
then
there
should
be
some
way
we
do
it
with
free.
With
with
when
there's
the
soils
are
contaminated,
why
don't
we
do
it
with
the
buildings
that
are
contaminated?
It
doesn't
make
sense.
Okay,.
B
K
B
Against
the
zoning,
thank
you
for
that
clarification,
I
had
another
question.
That
may
be
something
that
that
planning
staff
may
want
to
answer
if,
if
this
building
were
to
be
designated
and
if
the
board
wanted
to
enter
into
some
partnership
with
some
other
organization
from
a
zoning
point
of
view,
would
there
be
the
potential
both
to
rezone
this
for
other
use
besides
a
school
and
if
there
needed
to
be
property
severance?
Would
that
be
something
that
could
occur
from
a
zoning
point
of
view?
Mr.
P
P
I
could
be
entered
into
where
there
might
be
an
opportunity
for
a
rezoning,
but
I
think
the
point
of
matter
is
and
under
the
Official
Plan
there
are
policies
that
support
looking
more
favorably
at
flexibility
in
terms
of
reuse
of
heritage,
buildings,
to
really
encourage
the
retention
of
those
buildings
and,
as
some
his
columns
indicated,
we're
more
than
prepared
to
work
with
the
school
board
to
look
at
what
opportunities
and
options
there
might
be.
That
can
support
the
adaptive,
reuse
and
the
retention
of
this
building.
P
B
You
for
that
answer,
seeing
no
other
questions
for
staff.
I
just
wanted
to
open
up
the
floor
for
any
discussion.
I,
remember
small.
Thank
you
very
much.
It
seems
to
me
the
staff
report
on
this
is
very
clear.
The
the
issue
is
in
their
conclusion
that
the
Bellevue
public
school
meets
all
three
of
the
criteria
outlined
in
the
Ontario
regulation,
and
this
is
significant
cultural
heritage,
resource
I,
think
says
it
all
I,
understand
and
sympathize.
B
What
members
of
the
community
that
look
at
the
building
is
an
old
building
and
problematic,
but
they,
the
issues
raised,
are
the
types
of
issues
that
are
present
in
every
old
building
and
I.
Think
when
we've
decided
that
we
do
to
preserve
heritage,
we
have
to
deal
with
that
and
I
think
this
is
a
particularly
important
case
because
I
don't
know
how
we
could
ever
expect
the
private
sector
to
preserve
heritage
if
the
public
sector
isn't
prepared
to
do
it.
B
Q
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I
would
like
to
follow
the
chairs
earlier
comments
thanking
people
who
came
out
to
print
delegations
present
to
us
today.
It
is
always
valued
and
very
appreciated,
and
many
of
you
spoke
very
eloquently
about
your
school
as
parents
I'm
a
parent
myself,
I
sat
on
school
boards
at
northern
school
boards,
but
on
school
committees
and
worked
on
many
in
any
capacity.
In
my
time
when
my
children
were
younger
but
I,
don't
many
I.
Q
Think
of
your
concerns
that
you
raised
today
speak
to
what
my
colleague
sandy
Smallwood
had
to
say
when
we
deal
with
heritage
buildings.
Invariably
we
are
dealing
with
many
of
the
issues
that
you
talked
about
today.
That
really
are
not
unique
to
the
original
portion
of
Broad.
You
Broadview
public
school
there's,
also
I,
think
costs
associated
with
demolishing
a
building
like
this
that
have
not
been
raised
today,
and
they
are
indeed
considerable,
which
is
something
that
needs
to
be
factored
in
as
well.
Q
When
you're
talking
about
larger
economics
of
the
site
and
I,
think
that
it's
important
also
to
recognize
that
the
designation
is
about
the
exterior
of
the
building
and
does
not
does
not
address
the
interior,
which
miss
Collins
also
noted,
because
there
did
seem
to
be
a
lot
of
concern
expressed
about
the
the
quality
of
the
interior.
But
then
again
there.
Another
point
of
view
raised
about
that
as
well,
so
I
too
will
be
supporting
the
recommendation
to
designate
this
property.
Thank
you.
F
Mr.
chart
I
would
like
to
really
congratulate
the
build,
a
better
rod,
few
parents,
Council
and
community.
Your
efforts
in
the
last
sort
of
decade
have
resulted
that
you
are
so
close
to
getting
the
school
that
will
be
an
amazing
learning
environment
for
your
children
and
for
the
community
and
I
like
the
compliment
I
like
calling
the
architect
or
the
design
of
the
new
school.
It's
quite
wonderful
I
understand
the
concern
of
the
delegations
that,
at
this
point,
this
part
of
school
is
designated.
F
It
may
jeopardize
the
whole
project
and
I've
heard
that
really
really
carefully.
It
is
very
fortunate,
looking
at
the
site
plan
that
the
historic
building
should
it
be
designated,
is
in
a
small
corner,
but
essentially
in
the
parking
lot
and
I
think
that
it's
clear
from
a
planning
perspective
that
this
is
not
going
to
jeopardize
or
compromise
the
layout
of
the
grounds
or
the
whether
your
building
itself.
F
I
think
that
retain
the
exterior
of
the
original
school
will
contribute
to
building
a
better
problem
because,
as
you
probably
can
teach
us
it's
not
just
in
the
classroom,
it's
in
the
community,
it's
in
the
context
and
I
think
retaining
a
historic
relic
like
helping
to
retain
an
elderly
person,
contribute
something
to
the
education
of
us
all.
When
you
see
it
rather
than
just
seeing
fragments
of
it
inside
the
glass
case
inside
building
adapter
these
of
buildings.
What's
to
desiccate,
it
is
not
any
process.
F
There's
amazing
number
of
successes,
some
for
education,
some
for
other
uses
community
uses
housing,
sees
the
concerns
that
there
are
with
the
interior
for
building
visited,
but
having
been
the
architect
for
adapting
other
schools
for
other
purposes.
I
understand
the
challenges,
but
these
are
soluble.
You
are
we're
all
sitting
in
the
adaptive
reuse
of
a
former
school
the
ground
you,
this
building,
had
significant
deterioration
when
it
was
abandoned
as
a
school
and
is
now
serving
another
purpose,
which
is
a
community
purpose.
Yes,
there's
money
involved,
but
I
think
that
that's
another
kind
of
challenge.
F
K
Mr.
chair-
and
this
is
my
first
time,
I-
think
meeting
somebody,
sir
congratulations
to
the
the
members
and
on
your
appointments.
I
am
a
proponent
of
maintaining
of
strong
protection
for
heritage
in
our
city,
and
this
school
is
located
in
the
community.
That
is
undergoing
really
rapid
change.
You
can
take
a
look
at
the
number
of
new
homes
just
on
broad
view
and
and
throughout
the
broader
Westborough
community.
The
nature
of
our
community
is
changing
and
it's
going
to
continue
to
and
I
think
it's
important
that
we
preserve
these
touchstones
with
our
past.
K
My
support
as
the
ward
councillor
in
this
neighborhood
for
the
building
is
predicated
on
my
confidence
that
the
new
school
will
be
built
as
it
was
presented
to
parents
on
time
and
on
budget
I
am
NOT.
One
of
those
who
would
propose
to
put
students
in
this
building
and
I'm,
certainly
cognizant
that
that
leaves
a
couple
of
different
options
for
what
might
happen
here.
The
building
may
sit
vacant
I'm,
not
totally
confident
that
we
can
make
an
adaptive
reuse
of
the
building
within
fairly
short
order.
K
K
I
I
leave
it
to
you
to
determine
how
you
want
to
vote
on
this
and
I'm
really
pleased
to
hear
that
it's
so
supportive,
but
just
understand
where
I'm
coming
from
I
think
it's
really
important
to
protect
heritage
and
I'm,
confident
that
we
can
make
this
a
community
asset
over
the
long
haul
and
I'm
willing
to
roll
up
my
sleeves
to
do
that.
I.
B
Think
very
much
as
councilor.
We
appreciate
the
comment
and
appreciate
you
coming
out
to
join
us
this
morning.
I
see
no
other
requests
for
the
floor,
so
it's
time
to
turn
to
the
recommendation
before
us,
but
the
built
headed
subcommittee
recommend
that
planning
committee
recommend
that
council
issue
a
notice
of
intention
to
designate
rafi
public
school
under
part
four
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
According
to
the
statement
of
cultural
heritage,
value
attached
is
document.
Six
is
the
recommendation
code.
Okay,.
B
Okay,
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
joining
us
this
morning
on
that
I
know
you're
staying
for
other
items,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
Thank
you
again
to
the
public
who
came
out
for
this
item.
If
you
don't
want
to
stay
for
the
remaining
items,
we
understand
and
we'll
turn
in
a
moment
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda.
B
There
are
no
registered
speakers
for
this
item.
So
I'm
gonna
ask
committee
members
whether
or
not
in
reviewing
the
documents.
You
have
any
questions
of
staff.
The
staff
report,
the
staff
recommendation-
is
to
support
the
application.
Are
there
any
questions
from
members?
Seeing
none
I,
don't
think
we
need
a
presentation
and
I
will
then
ask
whether
we
on
the
mode
on
the
recommendation
before
us.
B
Ok,
that
was
straightforward,
so
I'm
moving
to
the
next
item
in
our
agenda.
We
have
the
designation
of
st.
Ann's
rectory
at
17
mile
and
Avenue
under
part
4
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
We
have
a
number
of
emailed
comments.
We
have
so
many
audience
who's
prepared
to
speak
in
support
of
the
staff
recommendation,
which
is
also
in
support
of
designation.
B
F
Wondered
if
staff
could
make
a
a
90
second
presentation
on
this
if
possible,
because
it's
important
for
the
Lower
Town
neighborhood
we've
read
through
the
work,
but
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
because
this
is
a
will,
a
kind
of
unknown
resource
to
most
people.
And
if
you
could
do
that,
they
would
be
helpful.
H
You,
mr.
chair,
the
colleague
and
fitzpatrick,
it
was
responsible
for
writing
their
reports,
but
I
will
I
can
do
some
background
and
some
explanation
of
it.
The
st.
Anne's
rectory
is
is
located
on
Moran
Street
in
lower
town.
It
is
associated
with
église
Saint
Anne,
which
is
a
designated
Church
on
old,
st.
Patrick.
The
building
was
designed
by
Ottawa
architect,
w/e,
not
keen
in
the
1920s.
H
Yes
in
the
1920s
and
the
the
Lower
Town
Community
Association
requested
its
designation,
and
we
prepare
the
report
its
designated
for
its
architectural
significance
as
an
example
of
Rocky's
work
on
and
those
are
details,
massive
columns,
interesting
construction,
material
windows,
dormer
windows.
It
reflects
its
its
function
as
a
rectory
for
a
very
busy
parish
when
it
was
constructed.
Elements
of
the
interior
are
also
recommended
for
designation
and
included
in
the
list
of
heritage
attributes.
F
H
Is
called
the
National
House
of
Prayer
and
I
think
that
they
purchased
it
I,
think
they
own
own.
The
building
now
and
the
National
House
of
Prayer
them
is
an
organ
they're,
an
organization
that
I
know
if
they
lobby
they
pray
on
Parliament,
Hill,
I.
Think
for
the
good
of
us
all
and
it's
so
it's
an
office
use
and
there
and
there
and
there
I
think
that
they
also
have
place
they
there's
places
to
stay
there.
B
R
R
I
ended
on
heritage
issues
that
I
hope
you
will
find
informative.
It's
kind
of
a
kiss
and
cry
issue,
so
I'm
speaking
about
its
I,
want
to
say
that
we
support
the
designation
of
its
historic
when,
when
not
by
mouth,
key,
it's
recognized
by
the
community
for
all
the
attributes
that
are
required
for
designation
and
we're
fortunate
to
have
a
number
of
buildings
by
in
law,
town
attributed
to
now
ski
and
the
community
is
keen
to
have
each
one
of
them
recognized.
R
In
this
way,
the
co-chair
of
the
provincial
policy
statement
criteria
that,
in
the
definitions
that
we're
looking
to
more
and
more,
and
that
is
that
as
a
significant
building
associated
with
architectural,
cultural
and
social
history
identified
as
the
community
has
been
important
to
our
community,
research
work
by
the
community
has
begun
and
many
other
significant
buildings
in
the
community,
including
Europe
Street
School,
the
synagogue
period,
whatever
the
angle
flick
day
care
center
on
George,
as
well
as
threatened
buildings
on
a
little
street.
We
look
forward
to
having
these
builders
join.
R
Our
historic
communities
list
of
designated
buildings
who
look
at
the
built
heritage
subcommittee
will
have
an
opportunity
to
request
that
increased
funding
for
heritage
research
and
studies
be
included
in
the
2015
budget
to
ensure
those
important
buildings
in
our
community
can
be
protected
by
designation
and
finally,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
heritage
staff
for
their
work
on
the
file
and
the
community
members
who
assist
it
with
the
research.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Any
questions
is
Miss
McKenzie.
No,
seeing
none
I
think
we
can
turn
to
the
recommendation
before
us
that
the
build
her
so
can
we
recommend
the
planning
committee
recommend
that
council
issue
a
notice
of
intention
to
designate
17
Island
Avenue
under
part
4
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
Carib.
B
Excellent,
so
that
leaves
us
just
with
a
few
procedural
items.
Are
there
any
notices
of
motions,
no
inquiries,
none
their
business,
maybe
just
under
other
business.
I
will
mention
that
we
are
scheduled
to
have
our
call
it.
What
you
might
retreat
facilitated
session
on
Friday
mark
March,
the
6th
from
9:30
until
12:30.
We
have
a
venue
here
in
the
building
and
we'll
be
sending
out
a
proposed
agenda
for
that
to
members,
hopefully
by
end
of
next
week,
which
will
still
give
members
a
couple
of
weeks
to
comment.
F
B
It
is
yeah
yeah,
absolutely
so
again.
The
agenda
will
try
and
get
that
out
at
the
end
of
next
week
and
you'll
see
from
from
the
agenda
what
the
objectives
are.
I
spoke
a
little
bit
about
that
at
our
at
our
first
meeting
and
we
will
try
and
refine
it
and
make
sure
that
we
are
using
our
time
efficiently.
B
So
I
know
that
our
next
meeting
of
the
bill
hairy
subcommittee
is
going
to
be
pushed
back
from
our
original
March
12th
date
to
March
the
26th
at
9
a.m.
which
is
a
little
bit
of
an
unusual
start
time.
So
we
wanted
to
give
you
a
heads
up
that
will
be
starting
30
that
it's
earlier
then
then
regular.
So
on
that
we
can
turn
to
adjournment.