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From YouTube: Built Heritage Sub-Committee – April 14, 2016
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Built Heritage Sub-Committee meeting – April 14, 2016 – Audio Stream
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
B
Okay,
good
morning,
everybody
and
welcome
to
this
meeting
of
the
built
heritage
subcommittee
before
we
start
I'd
like
to
note
that
simultaneous
interpretation
will
be
provided
for
item
three
on
the
agenda
and
committee
members
and
members
of
public
are
reminded
to
use
their
earphones
as
necessary
and
for
members
of
the
public.
We
have
translation
devices
and
your
phones
located
in
the
box
on
the
front
table
and
also
in
southeastern
typically
also
Mutiny,
said.
I
fell,
political.
B
Happen
on
Oh
mom
go
to
committee,
the
potty
like
a
tail
or
bells
wear
on
this
kid.
A
mom
go
to
public,
saw
MBTA
utilize,
a
laser
polite
reduction.
It
is
a
could
tell
the
truth
on
a
broad
swell,
a
table
situate
paid
lobbyist,
okay,
so
moving
on
to
the
agenda
in
terms
of
regrets,
Vice
Chair
Petoskey
has
informed
us
that
he
is
not
able
to
attend
the
meeting
declarations
of
interest.
Any
I
see
none
confirmation
of
minutes
from
my
meeting
of
11th
February
2016.
B
B
So
we'll
begin
with
item
1,
which
is
an
application
for
the
demolition
of
a
garage
and
the
construction
of
a
new
one
at
16th
Sweetland
Avenue.
Can
we
tell
you
that,
or
did
members
of
the
committee
have
comments?
No,
that
item
code
great
item
two
is
an
application
for
new
construction.
At
140,
Howard
Street
members
of
the
committee
will
recall.
We
had
approved
a
design
for
a
previous
house.
Then
there
unfortunately
had
been
a
fire
on
the
property
property
was
sold.
The
new
owners
have
come
back
with
plans
to
build
a
house
on
that
site.
B
No
comments
from
the
public
that
was
approved
also
by
the
Heritage
Committee
of
the
Rockland
Park
residents.
Association.
Can
we
carry
that
on
it
yeah,
okay,
wonderful
Ida,
number
three,
which
is
the
designation
of
the
former
bath
gesture
and
synagogue,
we're
gonna
hold
back,
because
staff
are
going
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
that
designation
recommendation
item
4,
which
is
a
designation
of
Kilroy
21
with
rail
avenue.
B
We're
gonna
hold
that
item
to,
because
members
of
the
public
would
like
to
speak
to
us
about
that
item
5,
which
is
an
application
to
alter
the
Hungarian
embassy,
is
a
case
where
there
had
been
a
previous
application
which
had
it
had
expired.
This
is
an
application
to
alter
the
sunroom
portion
of
the
building.
B
B
Okay,
so
the
question
had
been
landscaping
that
counsellor
and
McKenney
said
we're
okay
with
that
we're
dealing
with
that
separately.
So
so
that
I
mean
that
item
is
guided
item.
Seven,
always
a
list
of
heritage
from
its
issue
through
delegated
authority
in
2015
members
will
recall
that
we
established
this
procedure
at
our
retreat
last
spring
and
passed
it
I
think
in
July
in
order
just
so
that
we
are
aware
of
permits
that
are
issued
through
delegated
authority.
There
is
a
list
located
in
the
agenda.
B
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
producing
that
any
questions
or
comments
on
that.
Or
can
we
carry
that
okay,
yeah
very
useful,
so
that
is
cari?
Thank
you.
Staff.
We're
going
to
hold
item
8,
which
is
Heritage
Register
procedures
just
so
that
staff
can
briefly
outline
what
those
procedures
are.
I,
think
it's
straightforward,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
committee
members
to
just
do
different
stuff
on
that
item.
9
status,
update
on
inquiries
or
motions.
Can
we
carry
that?
B
D
Okay,
the
property
is
located
on
the
east
side
of
King
Edward
Avenue
north
of
the
intersection
of
King
Edward
and
Vito
is
an
aerial
view
of
the
property.
It's
located
in
the
return
to
this
cell
there's
a
high-rise
building
to
the
south
that
you
can
see
here
in
several
historic
buildings,
including
the
hydroelectric
station
and
the
champagne
baths
to
the
north.
D
D
Here's
two
photos
of
the
building.
It's
a
three-story
brick
structure,
constructed
in
1904
in
the
Romanesque
Revival
style,
the
building
served
the
addict
yes
run
congregation,
which
was
authorized
first
Jewish
congregation
until
1956
when
it
was
converted
to
the
jewish
memorial
community
chapel
in
1957
the
function
as
a
site
as
Jews
funerals
in
1997,
and
today
the
synagogue
serves
as
a
church
for
the
French
congregation
of
the
seventh-day
Adventist
Church
of
Canada.
D
Some
of
the
took
about
policies,
the
city's
official
plane
states
that
individual
buildings
will
be
designated
as
properties
of
cultural
heritage
value
and
the
provincial
policy
students
faces
significant.
Both
heritage
resources
shall
be
conserved,
as
section
21
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
gives
me
miss
power
usability
the
resident
properties
of
cultural
heritage
value
in
order
mm
I
hope
they
must
meet
regulation
906.
D
This
has
which
indicate
the
property
will
have
their
own
associative.
What
contextual
value
so
design
value?
The
property
is
a
David
temple
or
the
Romanesque
Revival
style
and
everything
about
architecture.
It's
the
Ariat
or
it's
the
oldest
remaining
synagogue
in
Ottawa.
The
architectural
features
include
the
roundups
entranceway,
the
elaborate
and
arch
windows,
the
two
parallel
projecting
in
based
after
the
motion
spiral,
decorative
metal
Durham's.
It's
one
of
the
two
synagogues
in
Canada
to
have
that
feature.
D
The
historical
in
the
sort
of
value
is
that
it
was
created
to
accommodate
the
Jewish
community
in
Lower
Town,
which
have
outgrown
its
earlier
synagogue,
which
of
their
own
Murray
Street
and
was
designed
by
audible,
architect,
john
WH
watts,
with
alterations
by
Allen
forward
and
Cecil
purchase
the
Confessor
evaluated.
It
complements
the
remaining
historic
buildings
on
carried
adenoids,
as
mentioned
for
champagne
baths
and
hydroelectric
station.
It's
a
unique
architectural
style
to
make
sure
the
visual
and
the
historical
match
for
the
community.
D
You
can
see
it
stands
out
against
the
high-rise
for
themself
in
terms
of
consultation
for
the
property,
the
property
owner,
the
seventh-day
Adventist
Church
of
Canada
is
aware
of
the
proposed
designation
in
conversations
with
the
pastor
of
the
church.
They've
indicated
that
they
are
not
in
support
of
the
designation
as
they're
nervous
in
terms
of
the
impact
on
potential
development,
but
I
believe
that
earlier
and
their
representative
are
here
today.
D
B
E
You
good
morning,
as
mentioned,
my
name
is
Mark
Letourneau
I'm
here
from
Latino
heritage,
consulting
with
my
colleague,
Chris
Sugiyama,
on
behalf
of
the
Aggies
advantage.
Did
this
do
septum,
as
you
think,
affirmed
Ottawa,
we're
here
to
cover
a
couple
of
different
points?
We
first
want
to
thank
everyone
for
allowing
us
the
opportunity
to
speak
by
saying
we
actually
are
at
the
point
where
we
are
not
going
to
object
to
the
designation.
E
One
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
highlight
is
that
this
is
an
active
community
with
over
five
members.
They
do
have
specific
needs
and
the
key
focus
of
their
activities
is
on
their
pastoral
mission,
which
often
may
require
alterations
and
changes
to
the
structure
and
the
community
is
concerned.
Whether
or
not
the
designation
will
affect
that
ability.
Now
we've
had
the
opportunity
to
stalk
with
staff
and
we
actually
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
talk
with
staff
in
the
census
is
know.
E
The
intent
is
not
to
have
a
negative
effect
on
the
pastoral
mission,
nor
even
to
stop
an
appropriate
adaptive,
reuse
or
redevelopment
of
the
site,
but
in
speaking
with
the
community.
This
is
one
of
the
concerns
and
they
would
like,
if
possible,
some
sort
of
statement
indicating
that
the
intent
is
not
to
do
that.
E
We
also
wanted
to
confirm
that
in
state
at
this
time
there
is
no
plan
for
sale
redevelopment,
but
the
community
wants
to
ensure
that
their
opportunities
in
the
future
are
as
flexible
as
possible,
and
in
terms
of
that,
you
have
a
couple
of
clarifications
within
the
an
opportunity
to
review
the
draft
while
the
opportunity
to
talk
with
staff.
We
would
ask
that
the
committee
consider
these
as
part
of
the
revisions
to
the
notice
of
intent
to
designate
the
proposed
really
refers
to
the
building
as
both
a
three-story
and
two-story
building.
E
We
would
ask
that
that
be
clarified
as
a
two-story
with
basement
the
statement.
Five
evenly
spaced
round
arch
stained-glass
windows
on
the
front
facade
with
stone
cells,
we
are
suggesting
that
it
read
cathedral
glass
instead
of
stained-glass,
they
revised
the
description
of
the
two-story
round
arched
window
openings
with
a
circular
stained-glass
window
impaired
one
over
one
windows
with
stone
cells
to
identify
that
the
row,
the
round
arch
window,
openings,
blazing's
and
cells
of
a
circular
window
and
the
two
paired
one
of
the
one
windows
on
each
tower.
E
E
That
the
statement
of
cultural
heritage
value,
particularly
the
historical
associative
value,
be
revised
to
include
the
building's
history
as
the
Jewish
community
memorial
chapel,
which
was
from
1957
to
1997,
but
also
the
fact
that
this
is
a
home
to
an
active
community,
and
it
has
been
home
to
that
community
since
1997
and
then
additional
small
change
that
we
and
is
right.
Now
it
refers
to
the
architectural
reasons
for
designation
and
we
encouraged
a
change
to
the
actual
wording
of
the
actus
physical
design
attributes
that
values.
E
The
last
two
things
that
we
wanted
to
raise
within
the
proposed
designation
by
law
are
two
of
the
attributes.
The
first
is
the
rectangular
plan.
Two-Story
massing
we're
wondering
if
it
may
be
more
appropriate
to
refer
to
the
legibility
of
the
structure
as
three-dimensional
building,
as
opposed
to
referring
to
the
massing,
knowing
based
off
our
conversations
with
staff
that
there
may
be
an
opportunity
for
adaptive,
reuse,
possibly
in
addition
possible
redevelopment
and
for
the
important
thing
is
being
able
to
see
this
not
as
a
facade.
E
That
is
actually
a
three-dimensional
structure,
as
opposed
to
saying
rectangular
plan
two-story
massing.
The
other
is
the
reference
to
the
segmental
arched
window,
openings
with
stone
sales
on
the
east
and
west
facades.
The
segmental
arch
windows
are
actually
over
the
area
where
we
do
have
concerns
about
the
foundation.
They've
actually
been
refitted
with
a
much
smaller
window
and
there's
been
interior
alterations
and
a
number
of
the
windows
have
actually
been
altered.
E
E
If
committee
members
were
aware
of
any
opportunities,
whether
or
not
the
city
actually
would
support
provisions
in
a
proposed
planning
application,
things
like
instead
of
cash
in
lieu
of
parkland,
waiving
that
possibly
waiving
development
fees
looking
at
density
bonusing
these
sort
of
things
that
would
actually
encourage
the
adaptive,
reuse
and
retention
of
the
sort
of
structure
again
and
along
without
density,
bonus
in
density
density
rights
transfers.
And
the
last
thing
that
we
wanted
to
ask
the
committee
is
if
the
committee
and
staff
would
be
amenable
to
the
community
developing
a
conservation
plan.
E
One
of
the
concerns
of
the
community
was
having
to
come
for
this
for
every
little
thing
and
in
discussions
with
them,
they
are
amenable
to
looking
at
a
5
to
10
year
plan
for
some
of
the
work
working
with
staff
to
define
what
is
maintenance
and
bringing
something
like
that.
Back
to
this
committee,
so
that
they
don't
have
to
keep
coming
back
for
numerous
approvals.
Thank.
B
You
for
let
you
go
a
little
bit
over,
because
I
recognize
that
you
had
a
lot
of
issues
to
raise.
Let
me
just
make
sort
of
a
brief
comment
about
some
of
the
issues
you
raised
and
then
all
you
don't
technically
have
a
right
to
ask
questions.
You've
raised
some
interesting
points
which
laughs
to
clarify
with
regard
to
the
process
for
making
alteration
or
changes
to
the
building,
if
counsel
does
indeed
designate
it.
B
Changes
to
that
what's
before
the
committee
is
actually
the
designation
and
so
inaccuracies
in
the
report.
I
certainly
invite
you
to
speak
to
staff
I'm
sure
staff
would
be
amenable
to
changing
things
which
are
factually
incorrect,
but,
what's
before
this
committee
right
now
is
the
designation
under
part
4
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
so
be
able
to
get
into
the
wording,
changes
and
wording
issues.
That's
something
that
I
encourage
you
to
take
up
with
staff.
Do
you
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
staff
to
explain
to
you
very
briefly
what
the
process
is?
B
F
B
G
You
first
of
all,
I
want
to
really
thank
you
for
coming
forward
supporting
the
designation,
because
it's
not
often
we
get
a
building
that
screams
heritage
like
this
one
does.
This
is
really
so
important,
just
decide
for
the
fact.
It's
a
beautiful
building,
it's
interesting
to
read
some
of
the
letters
about
people
and
in
the
community
for
whom
this
has
been
such
a
landmark
in
the
community.
So
I
really
am
happy
that
you're
not
opposing
the
designation.
A
couple
of
comments.
G
One
was
certainly
as
a
committee
member
I
would
support
TDI's
transfer
of
development
rights
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
hope
that
you
will
pursue
that
with
staff,
because,
certainly
when
we
want
to
save
a
building,
we
have
to
look
at
a
way
of
also
providing
incentives
for
the
owner
to
do
that.
So
I
would
certainly
encourage
you
to
follow
up
on
that.
If
that
became
the
case,
one
other
thing
was
just
you
mentioned
about
the
foundation
and
I,
see
it's
a
beautiful
cut,
limestone
foundation.
G
So
I
don't
think
it
affects
what
we're
discussing
today,
but
I
would
suggest
that
you
have
someone
who
is
a
qualified
restoration
expert.
Have
a
look
at
the
foundation
that
is
a
foundation
that
I
would
certainly
want
to
see,
preserve
and,
as
in
one
of
many
buildings
with
home,
stone
foundations
like
that
they
can
be
maintained.
Sometimes
you
may
think
it's
worse
than
it
is,
and
it
may
be
a
simple
matter
of
some
repointing
and
some
repairs,
so
I
would
certainly
encourage
you
to
do
that
as
well.
Thank
you.
B
Any
other
questions
for
the
speaker
seeing
I'm
one
one
last
point
to
mention
is
that
you
may
again
want
to
speak
offline
with
staff,
who
can
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
the
heritage
grant
program
that's
operating
in
the
City
of
Ottawa,
so
all
all
that
the
staff
follow
up
with
you
on
that
item.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
out
this
morning.
Preciate
the
effort
and
the
detail
through
which
you've
read
the
report
and
the
supporting
documents.
Much
appreciated.
B
B
F
D
B
No
other
questions
of
staff
I,
don't
sense,
a
huge
issue
with
the
staff
recommendations.
So,
okay,
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
so
we
are
moving
on
to
item
4,
which
is
the
designation
of
Kiyomori
21
with
a
Avenue
under
part,
four
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
so
we're
gonna
start
with
a
presentation
from
staff.
We
have
a
number
of
members
of
the
public
who
are
signed
up
on
this
item.
I
would
also
just
like
to
mention
that
we
will
a
brief
technical
amendment
on
this
item.
B
The
staff
have
asked
that
a
small
amendment
to
the
report
be
made
to
better
describe
a
portion
of
I
believe
it's
the
masonry.
It's
a
small
change
and
we'll
deal
with
that
technical
amendment
later,
but
I
just
did
well
members
of
the
public
to
be
aware
of
that.
So
with
that
introduction
miss
Collins
over
to
you,
please.
H
Sorry
for
the
delay
good
morning,
mr.
chair
members
of
committee,
this
is
the
designation
of
kill
morning
at
21
with
roe
Avenue
on
the
part
floor
of
the
Ontario.
Heritage
opt
just
give
you
an
idea
of
the
location.
The
property
is
located
in
former
Nepean,
just
west
of
Merrivale
Road,
just
off
of
Withrow
Avenue,
as
you
can
see
from
this
photo
or
this
map.
Sorry,
it's
quite
a
large
property,
as
it
currently
sits.
H
This
aerial
photo,
although
it's
a
bit
bright
in
here,
it's
difficult
to
see
the
house
dates
from
the
1840s,
so
it
doesn't
fit
on
the
grid
with
everything
else
and
has
has
a
very
large
property
associated
with
it
should
give
you
an
idea.
This
is
the
view
from
the
street
so
as
as
I
said,
it's
quite
far
back
from
the
street,
and
it
isn't
very
easy
to
see
it's
located
back
here.
Oh.
H
H
H
H
Building
with
a
central
cable,
with
a
fan
light
in
the
front
window,
you
can
see
sorry
with
a
family
in
the
front
window
right
here.
The
building
was
constructed
in
the
eighteen
between
circa
1840
to
1854
William
Scott,
who
was
one
of
the
early
pioneers
in
this
area.
The
front
facade
and
you'll
see
this
see.
The
technical
amendment
that's
been
proposed
is
constructed
of
dressed
limestone
made
in
regular
courses
and
the
rear
and
side
facades
of
rough
cut,
limestone
laid
in
random
courses.
H
H
H
So
the
city's
official
plan
I
won't
go
through
this
again,
as
my
colleague
Ann
has
done
this
in
the
last
presentation.
But
the
city's
official
plan
says
that
it's
significant
historic
buildings
will
be
designated
on
the
part.
Four
and
the
provincial
policy
statement
says
that
cultural
heritage
resources
will
be
preserved
until
a
regulation
on
I
know
six
states
and
in
order
to
be
designated
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
a
property
must
meet
at
least
one
of
the
following
criteria,
which
are
design
value,
historic
value
and
contextual
value
for
design
value.
H
As
I
said,
this
is
a
good
example
of
a
vernacular
stone
building
constructed
in
the
classical
tradition
in
the
early
to
mid
19th
century,
as
you'll
see
in
the
Heritage
survey
form.
There
are
several
examples
of
this
type
of
building
throughout
the
Rideau
Canal
corridor,
a
more
quite
commonly
built
by
early
Irish
and
Scottish
immigrants
from
locally
quarried
stone.
It's
constructed
of
limestone.
It
has
a
gable
roof
and
symmetrical
facade.
H
Its
historical
associate
value
comes
from
its
association
with
the
early
development
of
the
city
view
neighborhood
and
even
earlier
than
the
only
settlement
of
Nepean,
as
I
said,
constructed
between
1840
and
1850,
from
William
Scott,
who
emigrated
from
Ireland
to
Canada
as
a
child
in
1819,
it
is
associated
with
Confederation
poet,
William
Wilfred
Campbell,
who
wrote
a
poem
about
pill,
mining
which
you'll
see
excerpted
in
the
Heritage
survey
form
his
1916
poem
blood
drops
of
Heroes.
He
is
the
person
who
named
the
site
kawaii.
He
did
only
live
there
for
four
years,
but
it
is.
H
It
is
surmised
that
he
always
dreamed
of
having
a
country
estate
that
reminded
him
of
his
ancestral
home
in
Scotland,
which
is
what
this
property
became
for
him
in
terms
of
consultation.
The
property
owner
is
aware
of
the
proposed
designation
and
I
believe
they
are
here
today.
Council,
surely
is
in
support
of
the
designation,
and
his
comments
are
included
in
the
staff
report.
Heritage
Ottawa
also
supports
the
designation
and
members
of
the
local
community
have
been
involved
in
and
contributed
to
the
research
on
this
property.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
We
have
members
of
the
public
who
are
signed
up
to
speak
so
maybe
we'll
go
through
the
list
and
then
we'll
give
committee
members
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
or
at
a
comment
on
the
recommendation.
So
we
have
eight
speakers
signed
up
as
far
the
first
speaker
on
the
list
is
Margie
hausen
good
morning
committee
and
just
so
that
all
speakers
know
if
it's
your
first
time
speaking
a
council
committee.
A
Cheer
Lisbon
members
of
the
committee
good
morning,
my
name
is
Margie
Howsam
and
I
am
one
of
the
three
current
owners
of
the
property.
From
a
sentimental
perspective.
We,
the
three
current
owners
and
children
of
the
previous
owner
who
loved
his
house
and
his
City
can
sympathize
with
the
idea
of
keeping
our
family
home
intact
and
in
use.
However,
we
feel
that
a
political
drive
to
control
other
people's
private
land
disposition
is
unfair
value,
expropriation
and
an
unsavory
precedent
that
leads
to
significant
penalizing
of
any
owners
ability
to
sell
their
property
in
good
faith.
A
It
also
imposes
an
unrealistic
expectation
that
old
building
heritage
maintenance
can
continue
in
death.
We
either
forced
on
owners
or
out
of
our
ones
municipal
taxes.
Now
about
the
history
and
the
famous
occupants
poor
Alfred
Campbell
lived
in
that
location
for
three
years
only
from
1915
to
1918.
There
is
nothing
about
the
house
that
recognizes
him.
A
He
spent
more
than
15
years
in
Wiarton
Ontario,
for
example,
and
from
what
we
can
ascertain
why
Orton
has
instead
chosen
as
its
claim
to
fame
Willy
Wiarton,
the
Alvino
grown
Groundhog
Day
Festival
about
the
naming
of
21
with
drill
the
report
continually
uses
the
name,
kill
Maury
to
refer
to
the
house
and
their
references
Campbell
plan
with
that
name
in
it.
We
feel
that
this
is
romantically
prejudicial,
since
only
the
port
really
used
it
before
this
heritage
unit
initiative.
A
A
This
is
not
a
really
an
unusual
example
in
the
air,
nor
a
landmark
it
does
not
have
fine
architectural
detail
or
craftsmanship.
Nor
does
it
support
the
character
of
the
area.
It's
not
even
there
within
walking
distance.
There
are
two
other
examples
that
I
have
hold
us
up
them
here:
41,
beaver
Ridge
and
2
Peter
Street.
There
are
other
examples
in
the
Ottawa
landscape.
How
many
examples
are
needed
to
keep
the
heritage,
an
active,
add
to
taxpayers
load.
B
A
And
again,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
I
just
like
to
continue
on
the
impact
of
the
intent
of
heritage,
designation
and
issues
going
forward
so
I'm,
just
basically
a
continuation
simply.
The
intent
of
designation
has
penalized
the
value
and
sale
or
private
property
on
announcement
of
the
intention.
The
owners
lost
a
film
good
for
the
asking
price,
the
revised
submission
lured
by
considerably
more
than
a
half
a
million
dollars.
A
It
discouraged
interest
due
to
uncertain
side
status
and
also
concern
over
approval
requirements
and
the
proven
process
delays
for
any
contemplated
renovations,
impacting
the
building
exterior
at
the
time.
They
also
lost
a
favorite
individual
order.
They
wanted
it
for
the
land
and
the
state
during
the
controversy,
and
that
was
one
that
we
wanted.
The
initiative
has
penalized
the
owners
by
triggering
substantial,
ongoing
support
costs
to
the
estate
third
costs
for
taxes,
utilities,
insurance
and
required
services
are
about
three
thousand
five
hundred
and
seventy
dollars
a
month.
A
Besides
non-monetary
obligations
to
regularly
visit
and
monitor
for
the
mail
and
secure
conditions
as
well,
there
may
be
other
repair,
incidentals
cleaning
and
any
legal
fees.
Both
the
city
and
the
owners
should
ask
needs
to
address
particular
safeguards
or
interests.
The
issues
going
forward
the
building
should
be
maintained.
It's
expected
that
any
new
owner
would
want
to
modernize
or
personalize
it
to
suit
their
needs
without
bureaucratic
encumbrance
or
undue
material
or
construction
limitations.
A
A
B
H
J
Hi
I'm
here
to
read
an
address
by
Jane
Moore,
who
is
our
president
of
the
post
pathway
good
morning,
and
thank
you
for
this
short
time
to
explain:
Campbell
and
Kim
Maury
to
the
importance
of
Campbell
and
Gilmour
to
the
poet's
pathway.
We
all
know
for
Campbell
is
one
of
our
five
national
poets,
the
Confederation
poets.
These
poets
are
said
to
have
actually
initiated
Canadian
literature.
Our
monument,
which
consists
of
homes
along
the
34
kilometers
pace,
is
a
national
monument,
Canadian
poets
and
to
Canada
itself
and
is
surely
the
largest
monument
of
this
type.
J
J
Campbell's
involvement
in
Auto
began
when
he
arrived
in
1891
as
a
successful
poet
and
expecting
to
find
employment
because
Sir
John,
a
was
hiring
poets.
Pardalis
goal
was
to
make
Ottawa
the
cultural
capital
of
Canada
and
Campbell
worked
for
the
government,
mostly
in
the
militia
department
and
the
archives.
He
became
friends
with
Duncan
Campbell
Scott,
an
article
Blackmon
and
all
three
lived
in
Ottawa
until
their
deaths.
J
The
three
wrote
a
lively
weekly,
literary
column
in
the
for
a
year
and
a
half
they
lived,
worked
and
socialized
in
Ottawa,
where
they
joined
the
Royal
Society
and
the
scientific
society
and
help
create
the
fabric
of
the
city
they
played
in
the
land,
walking,
canoeing,
camping
and
learning
and
loving
all
that
land.
They
wrote
about
Canada's
churches
and
bowels
rivers
and
woods.
J
The
war
Campbell
wrote,
prolifically
essays
novels,
plays
articles
and
poems
of
all
types,
but
above
all,
poetry
of
the
land,
about
the
woods,
the
snow,
the
author
of
Rio
rivers,
out
of
the
northern
waste
you
wash
your
Thunder
and
sweep,
and
he
wrote
about
Komori
when
the
woods
at
Komara
are
scarlet
and
gold
and
the
vines
are
like
blood
on
the
wall.
He
also
had
many
poems
about
citizens.
One
was
to
Hindi
Harper
best
friend,
who
a
young.
J
Why
Mackenzie
King
Harper
drowned
bravely
trying
to
save
Betsy
blair
from
drowning
in
the
icy
Ottawa
River
during
a
skating
party
at
the
governor-general's
William
Lyon
Mackenzie
King,
later
Prime
Minister
became
Campbell's
best
friend
and
himself
raised
the
money
for
Campbells
memorial.
A
bench
and
a
bronze
plaque
in
Beachwood
Cemetery,
the
poet's
pathway,
has
erected
three
plaques
to
Campbell.
He
wrote
down
the
Merrivale
road
after
moving
to
come
warring
and
replace
that
poem
on
a
bronze
plaque
and
a
boulder
outs.
J
Beside
a
pond
on
colonnade
Road
you'll
see
a
picture
I
provided
close
to
kumari
to
mark
his
home
the
day
of
the
unveiling
November
8
2011
CBC
radio,
how
the
competition
to
see
who
could
write
the
best
Merivale
Road
poem
today.
It
also
plays
Campbell's
a
wood
lyric
at
the
entrance
to
coronation.
Park
woods
those
words
into
the
stilly
woods
I
go
mark
so
much
of
what
we
want
to
say,
with
our
pathway
homage
to
nature,
to
earth,
to
Canada
and
to
the
still
places
within
the
heart,
replace
the
third
Campbell
poem.
J
Last
year,
at
the
entrance
to
Mackay
Lake
Makai
Lake,
a
rock
lift
park,
Canadian
students
for
students
for
decades
memorize,
the
famous
lines
of
Campbell's
iconic
Indian
summer,
along
the
lines
of
smokey
hills,
the
crimson
crimson
forest
stands
and
all
the
day
the
Blue
Jay
calls
throughout
the
autumn
lands
when
Campbell
died
in
1918,
neighbors
and
friends
and
city
view,
wrote
poems
telling
how
he
had
enlarged
their
lives.
They
predicted
that
now
the
song
is
hushed
the
singer.
Strangely
still,
the
years
would
reveal
Campbell
as
singer
and
prophet
patriot
and
man
since
2010.
J
Our
work
on
the
poet's
pathway
has
been
supported
with
grants
each
year
from
the
ottawa's
heritage
department
and
we
erected
twelve
beautiful
and
meaningful
moments.
Monuments
across
the
city
so
far,
number
thirteen
is
on
the
way
and
the
monument
completing
our
own
work
of
art.
This
outdoor
tribute
to
Ottawa
her
lands
and
her
poets
will
go
up
outside
the
city
archives.
In
2017,
Campbell's
daughter,
the
fake
Alec
wrote
this
of
her
dad
and
Komori.
They
were
very
hard
at
Komori.
He
was
very
happy
there
and
he
and
my
mother
were
enthusiastic.
J
J
B
J
Thank
you
that
you
know
what
are
the
same.
Things
resonate
with
what
he
was
trying
to
do
there
and
what
what
has
been
written
about
this
particular
house,
Phil
Jenkins
of
the
Ottawa
Citizen
recently
wrote
an
article
saying
that
this
would
be
a
wonderful
place
to
have
as
a
poet's
retreat.
There
are
four
such
retreats
in
Canada
already,
and
this
considering
that
ww
Campbell
is
one
of,
if
not
Canada's,
greatest
poet,
maybe
outside
Archibald
lemon.
Historically,
this
would
be.
You
know
a
really
fitting
thought
to
put.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
B
Great
other
any
questions
for
mr.
Bassett
I,
CNN
I.
Thank
you
for
coming
out
and
maybe
just
a
quick
note
for
people
in
the
audience
who
are
wondering
about
the
process
that
we're
engaged
in
now,
because
this
is
important
issues
often
come
up
under
a
designation
requests
about
affordability
and
other
issues.
We
really
charged
right
now
with
evaluating
a
staff
recommendation
to
designate
a
property
under
Section
29
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
B
The
legislation
says
that
we
may
designate
if
one
of
three
criteria
are
satisfied,
they
design
a
physical
value,
a
staff
have
said
historical
or
associative
value,
which
I
think
is
what
mr.
Glossop
was
speaking
to
and
contextual
value,
and
it's
our
job
to
make
a
decision
as
to
whether
we
agree
with
staff
that
the
property
in
question
satisfies
one
or
more
of
these
three
criteria.
So
I
just
wanted
to
set
that
out,
because
I
agree
that
the
history
portion
that
mr.
B
Carter
spoke
of
is
actually
relevant
to
this
question,
as
were
the
items
raised
earlier
by
Miss
Howsam.
But
the
issues
of
cost
and
issues
of
relate
outside
of
those
three
criteria
really
part
of
the
decision-making
process.
At
this
moment
there
is
always
an
opportunity
for
a
property
owner
of
a
designated
property
to
come
back
to
Council
and
alter
a
property
to
demolish
a
property,
but
it
is
important
to
state
that
what's
under
consideration.
Right
now
is
the
evaluation
of
these
three
criteria
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
K
Today,
as
an
adult
at
16
with
road,
just
across
from
the
Roger
property,
has
little
girl
in
the
50s
and
early
60s
I
used
to
walk
with
my
friends
over
to
the
Rogers
woods
to
play
on
our
truck
that
we
would
walk
through
as
balancing
weights
as
kids
do
getting
from
one
end
to
the
other.
It
was
a
game.
It
was
our
pastime.
This
week
the
owner
destroyed
the
front
of
the
beautiful
stone
wall.
There's
some
pictures
here
of
the
wall
as.
K
To
sit
at
my
home
and
watch
birds
and
other
wildlife
flip
between
the
trees
on
the
property
at
21,
with
Joe
and
my
feelers,
what
a
delight
when
you
think
that
one
block
away
from
that
property
at
21
with
Joe
is
a
landmark
in
our
neighborhood
one
that
has
been
there
from
there
before
Canada
began.
It
hasn't
been
outstanding,
historical
significance,
and
this
is
what
is
left
to
city
whose
beginnings
in
Canada's
north
from
look
shook
is
considered
a
lamb.
K
An
old
dry
stock
Stonewall
would
definitely
be
a
landmark
here
in
our
community
when
looking
at
the
recommendations
for
property,
designation
of
the
former
avoids
property
at
175,
Main
Street,
the
trees
are
a
big
consideration
when
deciding
whether
to
include
the
property
with
the
building
so
sure
they'll,
mature
trees
at
21,
North
Carroll.
You
would
also
be
included
in
this
consideration.
It
should
also
be
noted
that
the
owner
has
started
to
clear
these
old
trees
from
the
property.
K
He
called
it
Kilmer
it's
original
stone
wall
as
referenced
by
the
Historical
Society
of
Ottawa
and
J
Morris
walk
I.
Had
those
references
here
enjoy
the
trees
and
bring
up
his
family.
He
can
relax
and
write
his
poetry,
not
sure
which
was
about
the
beauty
and
aesthetics
of
his
property.
William
Campbell
was
friends
with
other
famous
national
Forbes,
Archibald
Laughlin
and
Duncan
Campbell
Scott,
as
we
now
call
the
Confederate
poets,
who
is
also
close
friend
of
Prime
Minister
William
Lyon
Mackenzie
came.
K
Unfortunately,
Campbell
died
on
New
Year's
morning
1918.
They
left
behind
a
wealth
of
cultural
heritage
at
his
property
on
their
Road.
Eventually,
in
the
earth,
property
was
bought
by
another
prominent
person,
dr.
Jay
David
Roger.
He
was
a
well-known
physician
in
the
auto
area
and
he
lived
in
our
community
until
his
death.
Last
year.
He
and
his
wife
brought
up
their
family
at
21
with
Roe
and
he
cared
for
and
loved
the
land
and
the
trees
in
his
gardens.
K
K
As
the
woods
we
played
in
the
Rockies
the
wall
we
scaled
and
walked
along
the
Halloween's,
who
walked
the
long
driveway,
a
big
stone
to
the
big
stone
house
who
the
neighborhood
ritual,
when
I
eventually
enjoy
with
my
children
and
my
grandchildren
as
an
adult
that
continues
to
be
part
of
my
life.
I
was
across
the
street.
For
me,
it
is
where
dr.
Roger
walked
and
chatted.
He
was
something
we
passed
every
day.
K
The
beautiful
property
in
the
middle
of
our
crazy
world
seconds
from
busy
narrow
road
is
a
sign
of
peace
and
tranquility
right
here
in
the
middle
of
our
hectic
everyday
life.
It
is
a
landmark.
It
is
part
of
the
fabric
of
this
community
if
the
beautiful
historic
stone
houses
does.
That
would
be
wonderful.
K
Future
peace
and
continuity
from
our
past,
our
cultural
heritage,
would
be
lost
forever.
This
continuity
has
cross
generations
already
and
the
property
that
has
been
steadfast
as
a
place
where
people
can
establish
their
locations.
This
property
is
a
piece
of
my
heritage
for
many
people
and
I.
Ask
you
to
carefully
consider
the
property,
along
with
the
house
for
designation
as
you
move
forward
when
I
sit
on
my
porch
or
look
out
of
my
window.
I
see
beautiful,
mature
trees,
stone
stock
country
wall
a
little
piece
of
tranquil
country
in
our
fast-paced
world.
K
B
I
The
only
way
to
save
property
like
that
is,
it
has
to
be
bought
by
government
or
something
you
can't.
We
can't
say,
because
it
enjoy
a
piece
of
property
that
people
can't
use
their
own
property,
so
we
will
say
for
who
could
save
the
house,
but
what
happens?
The
property
would
be
done
later
with
concert
rally
and
planning
staff
if
they
came
in
with
something-
and
you
know
it's
nice
to
have
that-
we
all
have
things
like
that,
but
if
they're
not
in
public
ownership,
we
can't
force
it
on
people
like
that.
B
C
Name
is
sturgeon
and
I
live
at
64,
Cantor
Boulevard,
which
is
about
500
meters
or
so
from
the
property
in
question,
and
it's
a
nice
segue
from
Nancy's
comments,
because
my
view
is
that
the
property,
as
well
as
the
house
should
be
part
of
the
destination.
The
reason
basically
is
that
the
property
is
the
frame
for
the
house
as
a
picture
and
just
like
the
Mona
Lisa
would
be
worth
far
less
if
it
was
in
my
basement
in
the
file
folder,
this
property
itself
would
be
simply
the
house
and
not
the
property.
C
That
goes
along
with
it
in
the
same
way
that
another
analogy
would
be
a
diamond
ring.
If
you
take
the
time
and
out
of
the
ring,
it's
a
diamond
so
beautiful,
but
you
can't
show
it
off.
You
can't
do
anything
with
it.
You
can't
display
it
and
the
property
here.
Is
this
as
much
part
of
the
heritage
designation,
as
the
house
itself
is.
B
If
you
have
a
comment
on
the
document
related
to
the
report,
if
you
see
facts
from
actually
you
can
raise
it
with
staff
offline.
Are
you
finished
with
your
statement?
Yes,
I
am
ok.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
want
to
see
if
there
are
any
questions
from
committee
members
I
don't
see
any.
So.
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
out
and
expressing
your
view.
Thank
you.
So
next
on
the
list
is
Enya
an
Arabic.
L
Good
morning
and
welcome
good
morning
hi,
my
name
is
Anja.
Mihailovich
I
live
in
the
other
heritage,
stone
home
in
city
view.
These
homes
were
built
to
last
and
will
stand
longer
than
any
recently
built
ones.
It
is
essential
that
we
protect
and
designate
21
were
thrown
its
grounds
with
heritage
designation,
a
stone
farmhouse
needs
to
be.
L
Thank
you.
A
stone
farmhouse
needs
room
to
be.
It
was
the
intent
when
originally
built
and
to
take
away
the
land
that
surrounds
it
would
be
taking
away
its
identity,
its
identity
within
our
neighborhood.
What,
if
I
ever
be
lost?
If
it's
it
on
a
small
parcel
of
land
drowned
out
by
the
new
homes?
At
some
point,
the
city
must
put
value
and
importance
to
the
few
lucky
heritage
homes
that
still
have
some
land
remaining
within
the
city.
Why
is
densification?
Giving
more
value
than
historic
preservation?
L
21
with
Roe,
has
not
only
just
over
two
acres,
but
many
features
that,
for
a
long
time
in
our
area
created
a
landmark
to
its
identity,
from
the
mature
trees
surrounding
the
property
as
dry,
stacked,
stone
fence
along
two
sites,
and
it's
a
state
lake
presence.
The
long
winding
lane
way
from
the
street,
surrounded
by
nature,
these
features
are
unique
to
this
property
and
should
be
preserved.
The
city
has,
over
the
last
hundred
years,
allowed
this
home
to
become
what
it
is
today.
L
Every
permit
issued,
severance
granted
in
variance
allowed,
has
all
been
approved
and
signed
off
on
even
the
orientation
of
the
home
to
its
surrounding
was
plan
approved
by
the
city.
The
irony
is
that
these
are
the
very
reasons
that
the
heritage
group
has
not
included
the
land.
With
its
recommendation
for
designation,
the
cities
should
take
responsibility
for
its
past
decisions
and
not
hold
them
against
a
property
that
is
truly
worth
of
designation.
I
recommend
that
the
heritage
designation
be
allocated
both
to
this
throne
home
and
the
entire
grounds
that
remain
in
my
research.
L
The
property
exhibits
all
the
attributes
required
to
be
a
landmark
within
our
community
and
the
City
of
Ottawa
I
am
disappointed
by
the
process
of
designation.
This
week,
our
community
felt
helpless
as
the
dry
stacked
stone
wall
was
torn
down,
as
our
community
tries
to
gain
in
heritage.
Designation
I
feel
that
the
property
should
remain
in
it,
as
is
condition
until
a
decision
is
made.
L
B
M
M
M
This
must
have
been
owned
by
some
aristocrats
and
everything
else,
there's
so
simple
property.
Definitely
not.
The
Eclipse
was
large
to
a
quarter
acre
and
a
lot
of
people
in
the
stone
house
near
the
museum
near
the
church,
his
small
property.
It's
not
nervous,
you
know
it's
exposed,
it
doesn't
get
noticed,
but
if
you
mentioned
to
locals
torn
or
throw
maybe
oh
I
know
all
about
that
expression.
M
Some
of
the
people
that
been
here
for
most
of
their
lives,
they
say
yeah,
we
used
to
play
there
all
the
time
and
they
grew
up
around
when
I
was
larger
before
it
got
severed,
it
is
the
landmark
of
the
community.
So
in
the
report
that
does
talk,
is
this
a
landmark
and
talks
just
being
a
large
green
space?
Unfortunately,
I
have
to
disagree
that
it
is
a
landmark.
It's
if
you
look
at
what
do
you
see?
You
see
this
large
property
that
really
stands
out.
M
I
understand
where
others
are
concerning
that
and
I
understand
where
they're
coming
from,
but
this
is
more
than
just
just
trying
to
save
land.
Just
cuz
I
heard
it's
a
Houston
should
have
something
that
is
meaningful.
Also
única
said
the
exact
examples
of
our
heritage.
Our
properties
was
175
and
Main
Street
that
definitely
didn't
the
same
policy
reversal.
M
Yes,
the
house
doesn't
face
the
street,
but
back
in
1840,
actually
faced
the
only
Street
that
went
through
there,
which
would
have
been
nerville,
because
these
were
all
hundred
acre
properties.
But
when
you
look
at
it,
the
first
thing
you
think
of
is
an
estate
property
house
might
be
turned
off
a
little
bit,
but
you
have
that
beautiful,
whining
way,
treeline
property
and
you're
going
to
this
majestic
house,
which
goes
into
other
points,
I've
been
raised
about
maintenance
and
taking
care
of
the
house.
Oh
I
understand
that.
M
Yes,
this
house
needed
taken
care
of
you,
see
lots
of
heritage
properties
and
they
being
let
go
and
then
fortunately
need
to
be
dental.
The
most
our
house,
where
we
bought
it,
was
in
a
very
similar
state.
Unfortunately,
the
previous
school
that
had
been
rented
out
from
the
church
had
really
trashed
the
interior.
We
completely
restored
the
house,
not
just
one
of
it.
We
restored
the
interior.
M
That
looks
exactly
like
that
takes
yes,
some
restrictions
to
be
as
original
as
possible.
The
around
the
stone
has
to
follow
a
specific
heritage,
reason
that
it's
a
real
and
minor
inconvenience,
but
if
the
stone
has
to
be
reappointed
anyways,
you
don't
have
to
do.
It
is
probably
regular
maintenance
for
any
type
house.
M
Does
go
beyond
the
port.
Mr.
Campbell,
this
house
is
actually
the
oldest
house
in
this.
Neighborhood
is
representative
of
the
original
land
allocation,
the
Scott
family,
as
was
mentioned
in
the
report,
agree
there
are
99
or
1890,
and
if
you
look
at
there
the
map
from
1879,
you
can
see
the
entire
city
view
is
actually
owned
by
the
Scott
family
and
their
descendants.
You
see
scoff
and
you
see
the
Sullivans,
which
is
what
Mary
Jane,
who
is
the
oldest
daughter
married
into
the
Solon
family.
They
are
the
entire
studio.
This
is
actually
a
major
park.
M
M
C
N
The
Rogers
house
was
built
in
1844
the
Scott
family.
In
the
early
nineteen
hundreds,
it
became
home
to
one
Wilford
Campbell,
a
renown,
Canadian
writer
and
one
of
the
Confederation
poets.
I'd,
always
remember
one
of
his
poems
I
studied
in
school
along
the
line
of
smoky
Hills,
the
Crimson
forest
stands
and
all
the
day-to-day
Jays
call
throughout
the
autumn
lands.
It's
hard
to
believe
that
this
park
lived
around
the
corner
from
my
house.
N
Under
Ontario
Heritage
Act
municipalities
can
pass
bylaws
to
designate
properties
of
cultural
heritage,
value
or
interest
according
to
provincial
government.
Designation
of
heritage
properties
is
a
way
of
publicly
acknowledging
a
properties
of
value
to
a
community.
At
the
same
time,
designation
helps
to
ensure
the
conservation
of
these
important
places
for
the
benefit
and
enjoyment
of
present
and
future
generations.
A
heritage
designation
recognize
the
importance
of
the
property
to
local
community.
N
It
protects
the
property's
cultural
heritage
value,
it
encourages
good
stewardship
and
conservation,
and
the
projects,
knowledge
and
understanding
about
the
property
members
of
our
community
related
that
the
Camorra
house
is
being
considered
for
heritage
designation.
This
original
stone
farmhouse
is
an
alder
Mayor
Bill
in
the
predates
existing
neighborhood.
In
fact,
it
predates
Confederation
and
it
represents
an
important
piece
of
our
Canadian
history.
N
My
family's
lived
in
City
View
since
1980.
We've
always
been
intrigued
by
this
unique
old
stone
house
and
its
surrounding
property.
The
garden
house,
sir,
mostly
hidden
from
the
road
by
known
Stonewall
and
large
evergreens,
which
have
made
the
property
even
more
intriguing,
I've,
never
passed
it
without
looking
up
the
stone
flank
driveway
to
get
a
glimpse
of
the
property
in
the
house.
It's
somehow
magically
transformed
me
transforms
you
to
a
different
time
in
a
place.
N
N
Apparently
it
was
really
a
farm
house
and
crops
and
animals
were
raised
on
the
surrounding
farmland.
I
can't
even
match
the
events
that
must
have
taken
place
from
this
property,
the
families
who
have
our
that
pier
the
births
and
deaths,
the
hardships,
the
winters
that
they
would
have
had
to
endure.
The
existence
of
this
homestead
helps
to
preserve
our
cultural
heritage
and
the
memory
of
those
early
settlers.
N
It's
unique
property
and
sharp
contrast
to
the
existing
housing
styles
found
in
our
community
today,
when
Wilfred
Campbell
lived
here,
it
had
only
5
acres
and
worked
and
live
had
only
5
acres
and
he
worked
on
weekends
and
days
off
to
transform
rough
grounds
into
gardens
and
landscaping.
He
knew
many
important
politicians,
writers
of
the
time
and
imagined
that
they
probably
visited
and
partied
on
this
property
in
some.
It
is
fortunate
that
today,
several
acres
of
these
gardens
have
still
been
preserved
around
the
house.
N
This
land
frames
the
house
and
helps
to
give
it
its
stately
appearance.
It
is
the
building
and
the
natural
elements
that
surround
it,
that
collectively
naked
a
cultural
heritage,
landscape.
The
house
is
visually
and
historically
linked
to
its
surroundings,
the
entire
property
minds
of
our
heritage
and
the
development
of
the
community.
It
gives
us
of
place.
We
visit
learned
that
the
entire
property
of
some
two
acres
is
up
for
sale.
We
nots,
assisted
21,
we
throw
Avenue
with
potential
development
of
some
14
watts
50
by
a
hundred
feet.
N
We
believe
that
the
protection
of
the
stone
house
alone
in
the
middle
of
a
new
subdivision
of
some
12
additional
stone
and
new
houses,
or
do
little
to
preserve
this
unique
property
for
the
benefit
and
enjoyment
of
present
and
future
generations.
The
line
needs
to
be
included
to
recognize
the
agricultural
heritage
of
our
area.
Designation,
the
entire
property
would
recognize
importance
of
the
property
to
local
community
and
it
would
encourage
good
stewardship
and
conservation.
N
Besides
the
importance
of
protecting
our
heritage,
the
preservation
of
this
property
is
vital
to
our
community.
This
property
with
stone
wall
country
lane,
gardens
and
mature
trees
has
been
a
landmark
in
the
center
of
a
neighborhood
for
well
over
a
hundred
years.
The
to
the
land
surrounding
the
house
is
an
integral
part
of
the
property
we
understand.
The
surrounding
lands
are
often
included
when
properties
are
given
heritage
status
to
preserve
them.
In
fact,
entire
districts
have
Heritage
status.
This
property
certainly
meets
the
criteria.
N
B
N
To
say
yeah,
it's
this
part
is
the
last
opportunity
for
any
open
house
to
be
our
in
the
open
space
to
be
included
in
our
neighborhood.
So
it's
crucial
that
this
property
is
preserved.
Our
community
feels
that
this
designation
may
present
a
unique
opportunity
for
us
to
consider
purchasing
the
property
for
long
term
protection
and
to
share
it.
Hopefully
it
conventionally
become
a
public
property
for
the
benefit
enjoyment
of
everyone.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
O
21
with
Road,
also
known
as
Kim,
Maury
or
Rogers
house,
if
you
like,
be
designated
as
an
important
heritage
landmark.
This
request
refers
to
the
property
and
home
which
was
built
in
the
1830s
as
I
know,
you've
already
heard,
and
the
remaining
grounds
of
approximately
2.2
acres
2.02
acres,
both
which
predate
Confederation.
O
O
November
1977
the
Community
Association
produced
this
report
entitled
city
view
tomorrow.
A
report
on
current
community
concerns,
I
have
brief,
quotes
I'd
like
to
point
out
to
you
on
page
14.
I,
remember
six
also
to
view
heritage
buildings
Appendix
A
should
be
included
in
Heritage
Register
of
the
province
of
Ontario
to
ensure
their
continued
existence
and
appropriate
site
areas
assigned
to
them
in
keeping
with
their
character
and
importance
and
Surrey.
O
Buildings
should
also
be
registered
on
page
20
under
heritage
buildings
for
handsome
survivors
of
civil
years
were
all
passed,
and
in
the
midst
of
today's
suburban
community,
three
stone
farmhouses,
both
in
the
mid
1880s
and
a
frame
house,
but
later
that
century
are
described
in
the
following
pages.
These
memories
and
Lapine's
routes
must
be
suitably
protected
and
preserved
for
future
generations
of
our
community.
On
page
24
of
this
document
that
was
written
in
1977,
the
scarred
house
21.
O
O
O
This
land,
as
you
know,
represents
the
original
settlers
knew
of
the
fact
that
nervous
the
narrow
area
to
bubble
its
density
in
the
next
10
years.
That's
on
the
books.
This
is,
we
can't
afford
to
lose
this
historic,
green
space.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
Ottawa
to
have
its
own
Stanley
Park,
as
in
Vancouver
or
Central
Park,
as
in
New
York,
right
in
the
heart
of
modern
Ottawa.
Thank.
B
A
Good
morning,
thank
you
here.
Tada
is
not
opposed
to
development
of
this
property
comment
in
the
report
was
meant
to
indicate
that
we
wanted
sufficient
land
around
the
house
that
it
would.
It
would
sort
of
retain
a
certain
integrity
or
a
concern,
perhaps
because
many
of
us
are
downtown
people
about
the
inadequate
side
yard,
sometimes
provided
by
the
zoning
bylaws.
That
may
not
be
the
case
in
this
area
of
the
city.
A
It
has
occurred
to
me,
since
those
comments
were
submitted,
that,
through
the
development
process,
there
will
either
be
a
requirement
to
provide
parkland
or
there
will
be
occasional,
parkland
contribution
required,
which
could
be
significant.
Sixty
percent
of
the
cash
in
lieu
of
parkland
contribution
remains
in
the
area
where
the
info
intensification
was
taking
place
and
surely
it
would
be
possible.
A
It
should
be
possible
that
to
ensure
that
the
selected
through
passion
through
the
what's
it
called
the
Parkland
contribution
or
the
purchased
through
the
cash
in
lieu
of
parkland
contribution
could
in
fact
make
sure
that
there
is
sufficient
land
around
the
house
to
make
it
to
retain
its
integrity.
So
there
is
some
funding
or
process
available,
I
think
to
protect
the
house,
while
still
permitting
a
reasonable
amount
of
development
on
the
property.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
same
any
questions,
I,
don't
see
any.
So
thank
you
for
coming
out
this
morning,
so
that
I
believe
is
the
end
of
the
list
of
public
speakers
for
on
this
item.
I
just
thought
I
would
few
issues
that
were
raised
by
members
like
that
I
think
it's
important
just
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
clarity
on
the
first
days.
It
is
a
valid
question
to
ask
whether
or
not
the
committee
wishes
to
consider
only
the
house
or
the
associated
property
as
part
of
the
designation.
B
It
is
not,
however,
the
job
of
this
committee
to
apply
on
or
approve
any
potential
development
plans
on
that
property
and
I'm
wondering
miss
netten.
Could
you
just
maybe
briefly
speak
to
the
process
if
there
were
a
desire
on
the
part
of
a
existing
or
future
part
where
the
owner
to
develop
portions
of
that
property
or
mr.
Hurley.
C
The
current
zoning
is
a
it's
in
our
one
zone,
large
law,
it's
consistent
with
the
neighborhood,
so
there
is
the
possibility
that
there
could
be
relief
from
the
zoning
bylaw
required,
but
at
this
time
respectfully-
and
we
don't
have
any
proposals
before
us
in
terms
of
the
previous
speakers
comment-
it
was
correct
through
the.
If
there
were
lot
creation,
there
could
be
either
cash
in
lieu
or
small
parkland
dedication
obtained
through
that
process.
B
Thank
you.
The
second
item
of
clarification,
I
just
wanted
to
raise
is
the
issue
of
tree
removal.
The
City
of
Ottawa
does
have
a
tree
which
requires
any
property
owner
to
get
a
distinctive
tree
permit
for
any
tree
with
a
circumference
of
50,
centimeters
or
greater
so
I.
Just
thought.
I
would
communicate
that
as
a
point
of
information,
so
open
up
the
floor
for
discussion
or
comments
or
questions
of
staff
on
the
report.
I
H
C
H
Sure
the
property
was
considered
as
part
of
the
decision-making
process
in
recommending
this
building
for
designation,
the
the
historic
value
of
the
property,
in
our
opinion,
is
more
related
to
its
history
as
a
farm
property.
The
property
has
not
function
as
a
farm
in
a
hundred
years
or
more
and
has
and
does
not
have
the
attributes
of
a
farm
today.
So
staff
did
not
feel
that
the
inclusion
of
this
property
as
a
sort
of
estate
property
associated
with
Wilfred
Campbell
for
three
years
merited
the
inclusion
of
the
property
as
a
contextual
for
its
contextual
value.
B
P
P
And
so,
despite
being
yelled
at
oldest
surveyed
municipality
dating
back
to
the
1700s,
we
have
probably
the
fewest
remaining
heritage
properties,
and
this
one
is
one
of
the
ones
that
that
I
think
should
have
been
protected.
We
have,
in
the
former
city,
be
used
to
be
a
police
village,
and
this
house
was
the
jewel
and
center
of
of
city
views,
architecture
and
heritage,
then
on
through
the
creation
of
Nepean,
it's
an
organization
with
Nepean
and
then
up
to
the
new
city
of
ottawa.
P
It
remains
one
of
very
few
properties
still
available
to
protect
the
heritage
of
nepean.
Nepean
did
do
some
other
things
too,
to
protect
heritage.
We
did
spend
a
lot
of
money,
commissioning
heritage
wall,
history,
books
about
Nepean,
to
preserve
the
history,
at
least
the
story,
but
we
didn't
do
a
lot
to
protect
the
actual
buildings.
I
think
I've
been
involved
in
probably
75%
of
the
heritage
designations
in
the
former
city
of
Nepean.
That
doesn't
mean
I've
been
walking
around
that
long,
but
you
know
we
did
house
on
piety
way
in
fallow
field.
P
We
recently
did
al
steakhouse
on
Robertson
Road,
protecting
the
first
for
those
corners
guess
what
the
first
bar
in
bells
corners
and
and
we've
had
a
couple
of
others
through
Nepean,
but
not
nearly
enough
for
a
city
that
meant
so
much
to
so
many
people
and
was
really
the
first
in
the
area
to
be
a
survey
municipality.
So
we
aren't
going
to
get
many
more
chances
other
than
this
one,
and
maybe
one
or
two
others.
So
I
just
asked
committee
to
keep
that
in
mind.
G
P
I
would
accept
that
I
know
what
the
report
says
and
I
know
the
sense
of
committee
here
today,
but
we
really
need
the
house
designated
it.
You
don't
get
another
chance
for
this
with
the
near
well,
not
even
it's
still
off,
but
one
of
the
people.
Speakers
who
came
we're
in
search
of
something
like
a
heritage
house
has
come
up
with
a
sort
of
a
second
best
to
this,
but
we
definitely
need
the
house
to
be
designated
after
that.
We
definitely
need
the
land
around
it
to
be
treated
properly
in
relation
to
the
house.
B
F
Thank
you
I
just
like
to
say
to
acknowledge
the
the
turnout
this
morning,
following
on
councillor,
Ali's
comments
that
the
former
city
of
Nepean
does
not
have
a
lot
of
heritage
left
and
clearly
to
see
the
turnout
in
an
area
of
our
city
that
isn't
surrounded
by
heritage,
as
this
committee
usually
deals
with
properties
that
are
in
far
more
dense
heritage
areas
of
the
city,
so
it
is,
it
is
good
to
see
the
community
interest
in
this
property,
as
it
turns
out.
I
am
actually
familiar
with
this
property
and
have
walked
by
it
myself.
F
On
a
number
of
occasions,
the
first
time
I
came
across
it
I
was
stopped
stuck
in
my
strap
stopped
in
my
tracks.
Oh
just
what
is
this
doing
here?
This
is
just
such
an
anomaly
and
an
incredible
property
and,
of
course,
I've
been
drawn
back
to
it
over
time,
just
because
of
its
interesting
landscape
as
much
as
the
house
itself,
the
house
is
so
set
back
and
difficult
to
see
that
it
really
isn't
about
the
house
alone.
It
is
about
the
cultural
landscape
that
surrounds
it.
F
Certainly
I,
don't
I
wouldn't
expect
the
entire
property
to
be
designated.
There
are
opportunities
to
do
sensitive
development
in
places
like
this,
that
incorporate
landscape
and
original
heritage,
property
or
heritage
buildings.
So
I
am
I'm
not
encouraging
a
full
designation,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
see
something
in
terms
of
some
land
and
protection
around
the
building
itself.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
H
Yes,
if
the
designation
is
approved
and
put
in
place
by
counsel
prior
to
any
development
occurring
on
the
on
the
property,
any
future
development
would
involve
heritage
staff
and
likely
include
a
cultural
heritage
impact
statement
in
order
to
ensure
that
the
impacts
of
the
proposed
development
are
properly
considered.
Thank.
I
The
church
I
had
designated
heritage
in
the
90s
and
the
advances
not
yet,
but
because
it's
next
to
it
on
the
same
property,
it
does
get
looked
at
and
they
have
actually
been
recommending
to
lay
people
in
our
church
that
they
should
get
a
designate
as
well
and
the.
But
we've
got
the
whole
the
heritage.
People
did
take
a
look
at
to
see
how
it
made
it
so
it
fit
in
with
the
things
so
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
they
do
do
and
if
they
gave
some
useful
comments
at
the
time
and
I.
I
Think
that's
what
happen
in
this
case
as
well
and
I
know.
Certainly,
council,
surely
is
very
cognizant
of
it
and
any
type
of
planning
that
comes
forward.
I.
Think
we
would
all
support
him
and
in
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
view
of
the
house
and
how
it's
been
cooperate
into
that
is
protected.
I
have
an
interesting
one
in
the
business
park
that
is
set
well
back
from
the
road.
I
The
monk
house,
which
is
a
beautiful
house,
I,
don't
think
they've
ever
designated,
but
a
company
decided
they
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
protected
when
they
built
there.
So
they
built
a
building
next
door
kind
of
attached
to
it,
but
the
house
still
keeps
its
framework
is
still
back
in
the
trees,
so
it
is
possible
to
do
development
around
a
building
like
this.
That
will
maintain
a
lot
of
its
character
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we
would
like
to
see
in
the
end.
So
thank
you
all
for
coming.
Okay,.
C
2016.01.13
interject,
and
where
is
the
Hilary
Josh
abuse
and
Doctrine
v
requirement
clarification.
It
resolved
that
the
both
Harris
tho
committee
approved
the
following
technical
amendment
to
the
report,
one
that
the
second
bullet
in
the
list
of
heritage
attributes
be
replaced
with
limestone
masonry
construction,
rough
cut
and
made
in
random
courses
on
the
side
and
rear
facades
and
dressed
and
laid
in
regular
courses
on
the
front
facade.
C
B
Just
to
clarify
this
is
just
a
textural
change
to
the
report
that
staff
asked
us
to
initiate
is
echo
great
on
the
report
recommendation
that
they,
both
headed
subcommittee,
recommend
that
Planning
Committee
recommend
that
council
issue
a
notice
of
intention
to
designate
convoy,
2100
Avenue
hundred
part
four
of
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
According
to
this
statement
of
cultural
heritage
value
attached
as
document
five
and
as
amended,
is
that
recommendation
carried
okay?
Great.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
to
staff
and
thank
you
to
all
the
members
of
the
public
for
coming
out.
B
H
Thank
You
mr.
chair
I,
don't
have
a
PowerPoint
for
this
one,
so
I'll
just
briefly
go
through
the
motivations
for
the
report
and
and
what
it
says
as
a
result
of
various
demolitions
of
properties
listed
on
the
Heritage
Register
and
the
lack
of
a
procedure
to
address
those
demolitions
staff
have
developed
a
series
of
procedures
related
to
addition,
demolition
and
removal
of
properties
from
the
Heritage
Register.
The
document
that
we're
asking
you
to
approve
is
attached
says
document
1
to
the
staff
report.
H
The
procedures,
for
addition
include
that
properties
will
be
added
in
various
ways
to
the
register,
including
heritage
inventories,
staff
initiated
designations,
sorry
additions,
property
owner
requests
and
through
Heritage
Conservation
District
studies.
So
one
of
the
main
ways
that
properties
may
be
added
over
the
next
few
years
would
be
through
the
ongoing
citywide
heritage
initiative
that,
as
part
of
this,
the
department's
work
plan.
That's
going
on
right
now.
H
The
crux
of
this
report
is
around
the
demolition
of
properties
listed
on
the
Heritage
Register.
So
all
the
Act
requires
is
that
the
property
owner
provide
the
city
with
60
days
notice
in
advance
of
demolition
of
a
property,
but
it
also
includes
a
clause
that
says
that
the
city
can
that
the
notice
shall
be
accompanied
by
such
plans
and
shall
set
out
such
information
as
the
council
may
require.
H
And
so
we
decided
that
perhaps
there
was
a
requirement
for
additional
information
beyond
just
a
letter
saying
we
wish
to
demolish
or
we
are
going
to
demolish
our
property.
I
conducted
some
best
practice:
research
across
the
province,
which
you'll
see
some
of
the
precedent,
research
included
in
document
2
of
the
report.
H
We
are
suggesting
that
the
60-day
notice
be
accompanied
by
a
form
that
includes
it's
basically
like
an
application
form,
but
it's
not
an
application,
because
it's
notice
that
outlines
the
property
information
the
date
that
it's
submitted,
the
rationale
for
the
demolition,
so
why
they
want
to
demolish
it.
And
that
may
be
as
simple
as
we
wish
to
redevelop
the
property.
But
we
are
asking
for
that
rationale,
any
studies
that
might
be
required.
H
So
if
the
rationale
is
that
the
building
is
contaminated
or
something
like
that,
that
there
may
be
a
request
made
by
staff
to
provide
proof
of
that
information
as
as
photo
documentation
of
the
buildings
so
that
it
can
be
placed
at
the
city
archives.
The
procedure
around
this
in
the
past
has
been
that,
once
we
receive
a
notice
of
intention
to
demolish,
staff
have
been
bringing
forward
a
sort
of
a
memo
to
this
committee,
advising
them
that
there
is
a
demolition
notice
that
has
been
received.
H
If
we
determine
that
the
property
should
not
be
designated
no
will
be
brought
forward
unless
requested
by
the
ward
councillor
or
the
chair
of
the
Harwich
subcommittee.
So
that's
the
that's
the
mean
portion
of
the
report
and
then
the
final
pieces.
There
were
movable
properties
from
the
register.
So
at
this
point
we
have
properties
that
are
still
listed
on
the
register
but
are
actually
no
longer
in
existence,
because
the
approval
of
City
Council
is
required
in
order
to
remove
a
property
from
the
register.
H
So
we
are
proposing
that
a
report
will
be
prepared
in
the
first
quarter
of
each
year.
That
will
recommend
removal
of
any
properties
that
have
been
demolished
over
the
course
of
a
year.
Any
staff
initiated
removals
for
any
reason,
as
well
as
any
requests
we
might
have
from
property
owners
to
remove
their
property
from
the
register,
so
it
will
include
recommendations
to
either
remove
or
to
deny
removal
of
a
property
from
the
register,
and
that's
about
it.
C
Just
John
write
everything
when
we
dealt
with
3524,
it
mean,
and
it
was
determined
very
early
on
the
60-day
process
that
it
could
not
that
it
was
not
going
to
be
protected.
It
was
not
worthy
protection
by
the
city,
but
then
they
probably
only
had
to
wait
the
entire
60
days
before
they
could
actually
obtain
a
dental
instrument.
Are
we
attempting
to
address
that
anyway,
or
is
that
a
an
Act
issue
that
we
would
not
be
able
to
address
on
our
end.
H
We
did
three
in
mr.
chair.
We
did
consider
this
in
in
crafting
this
procedure
and
exactly
that's
that
one
situation.
We
are
not
addressing
that
in
this
proposed
procedure
and
the
reason
for
it
is
that
we
were
concerned
that,
rather
than
going
through
a
proposed
procedure,
which
is
to
provide
appropriate
information
and
historical
information
about
the
building,
if
requested
and
weighed
out
the
60
days,
property
owners
would
just
apply
to
have
their
building
removed
and
we
would
just
be
constantly
dealing
with
requests
to
remove
buildings
in
order
to
skirt
the
requirements
of
demolition.
H
C
That's
not
the
point.
The
point
was
that
no
one's
heard
anything
the
because,
because
you
had
already
determined
you
already
responded
and
the
fact
is,
you
responded
within
a
few
days,
so
they
saw
the
way
to
a
55
days
after
you
responded
instead
of
building
that,
even
though
everyone
was
finally
returned
to
going
down.
H
B
B
Thank
you.
That's
a
good
question.
We
have
the
answer
of
any
other
questions
or
comments.
If
not,
then
I
guess
what
we
do
is
we
approve,
so
is
that
recommendation
K?
Okay,
great!
That's
going
to
planning
into
full
council
for
your
information,
okay!
So
next
on
our
list,
is
we
finished
with
the
substantive
items
that
are
now
in
camera
items?
No
notices
of
motion
that
I'm,
aware
of
any
inquiries
I
see
none.
So
under
other
business
we
have
is
the
technical
circulation
part
of
other
business?
No,
that's
a
separate
item
right.
Okay.
F
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
there
are
the
three
applications
earning
bylaw
amendments
are
at
135,
Barret,
Street,
two
to
four
Cooper
and
seventy
Richmond
Road
135
Barret
is
is,
as
you
know,
on
circulation
on
the
plans
have
been
to
to
you
DRP,
and
we
are
anticipating
revised
plans
and
the
heritage
application,
which
is
required
if
they're
for
the
development
of
this
site
has
not
yet
been
received.
But
you
will.
This
will
be
in
front
of
you
as
an
application
on
to
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.