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A
Not
to
try
to
partner
with
organizations
to
elevate
the
culture
here
in
Ottawa
and
I
think
that
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
discussing.
It's
an
area
that
I
don't
work
in
within
within
Shopify,
but
we've
been
discussing
how
we
can
get
the
word
out
more
about
the
types
of
activities
that
people
can
do
when
they
move
here.
So
when
a
candidate
decides
say
to
come
in
and
join
us
for
five
days
and
check
out
the
city,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
in
our
office
knows
where
to
take
them.
D
Looking
forward
to
seeing
the
the
music
strategy
come
out
and
I
think
we
are
launching
that
sometime
in
February
to
talk
about
some
of
the
things
we
can
do
on
at
least
the
music
side,
but
all
of
our
cultural
pursuits
are
going
to
be
critical
to
address.
If,
if
I
may,
you
may
not
have
the
number
directly
at
hand,
but.
E
B
D
F
And
basically,
it
just
shows
that
the
city
solution
is
not
the
best
solution.
I
offered
13
options
that
were
better
solutions
and
I'm
glad
councillor
de
Roos
is
here
because
I've
been
told
by
Peters
I've
been
working
with
that
he
has
a
good
business
mind
and
he
understands
business
cases
to
a
great
degree.
So
basically,
what
I
did
was
I
just
created.
It
didn't
take
very
long,
but
I
came
up
with.
This
is
just
a
quick
summary:
I
have
13
industry
standard
ground
coverings
and
I
created
a
cost
for
them.
F
For
the
qualitative
side,
some
people
say
well.
Business
cases
are
all
money.
Well,
they're,
not
there
they're
quality
as
well.
Here
are
some
rated
criteria.
I
used,
they
said
well,
the
covering
out
in
that
front
lawn
should
be
able
to
cover
the
wheel
traffic
and
the
pedestrian
traffic
that
it's
being
exposed
to.
It
should
be
permeable.
That
means
green,
environmentally
friendly,
that
it'll
absorb
water,
and
it
also
should
be
esoteric,
aesthetically
pleasing
it
should
correspond
or
complement
the
Confederation
Park.
So
there
should
be
some
green
in
it.
F
F
What
I
did
was
a
cost
in
which
the
city
doesn't
usually
do.
It
goes
out
20
years
and
I
used
constant
year.
Dollars
is
Callay,
did
the
dollar
value
by
the
actual
performance
of
the
service
or
the
good,
and
then
I
came
up
with
budget
year
dollars
for
each
for
the
next
20
years
and
then
from
there
I
took
it
down
to
discount
rate,
so
I
can
get
a
present
value.
I'm,
not
sure.
F
If
everybody's
familiar
with
this
but
again
councillor
de
Roos
is
when
you're
doing
a
long-term
costing
you
bring
everything
down
to
present
value,
so
you
can
do
an
apple
to
Apple
comparison
and
that's
what
I
did
basically,
and
this
was
a
result,
we
see
the
status
quo,
four
hundred
sixty-three
thousand
dollars,
that's
that
first,
the
first
line
the
patio
stones
are
paving
stones
that
they
want
to
put
in
is
more
expensive.
It's
gonna
be
five
hundred
thirty
eight
thousand
dollars,
and
it
only
has
a
qualitative
factor
of
fifty
three
as
we
go
down.
F
I
looked
at
artificial
grass,
but
what
we
came
up
with
was
those
two
highlighted
ones:
the
plastic
grids
and
the
permeable
interlocked
concrete
segments.
So
what
we
saw
there
is
they
meet
the
requirements,
a
hundred
percent
of
what
the
city
wants
from
that
front
lawn
and
they
do
it
a
lot
cheaper.
In
fact,
it's
about
half
the
price
for
the
permeable
concrete,
so
essentially
what
we're
looking
at
or
I'll
leave
that
up
for
you
in
case.
You
want
two
things
here.
F
First
of
all,
at
the
small
level,
at
the
micro
level,
the
committee
basically
accepted
that
report,
and
now
the
city
staff
we're
gonna,
carry
on
and
do
what
they've
been
always
doing
and
they
are
gonna
explore
the
expensive
option.
The
committee
didn't
do
anything
they've
been
there
silence.
They
basically
endorsed
what
the
city
wanted
to
do,
but
on
their
recommendations-
and
this
is
not
unique
to
this
committee
at
the
macro
level-
I
started
out
with
hybrid
buses.
There
was
no
business
case
for
that.
F
G
Afternoon
chair,
madam
chair
councillors,
we
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
comment
and
the
2018
city
budget.
My
name
is
Kate,
said
Roosevelt
Peters
CEO
of
Canada
I'm.
Here
with
our
president,
mrs.
Aldama
Moussa
address
the
vital
importance
of
funding
or
culture
appropriate
program.
Titled,
it's
a
trap
in
the
potential
of
the
500,000
on-ramp
funding
or
asking
of
funding,
is
in
a
City
of
Ottawa,
which
is
being
traumatized
in
its
very
recent
history.
My
homicide
and
violence
in
youth
that
are
from
visible
minority
and
other
backgrounds.
G
We
run
a
pilot
presentation
and
the
otherworld
Technical
High
School
in
vining,
in
which,
on
an
unexpected,
strong
impact,
came
from
many
other
you
to
not
just
minority
youth
but
also
white
cute,
showing
the
changing
face
of
Ottawa
and
the
connection
of
all
youth
and
communities
in
this
great
city
that
we
live
in
are
not
only
impacting
the
black
youth
and
communities
there
are
positively
impacting
all
youth
and
communities.
I
leave
it
to
a
president
to
continue
explaining
to
our
council
the
importance
of
funding
such
programs.
G
Thank
you
for
having
me
and
before
starting
I,
just
like
to
congratulate
the
City
of
Ottawa
and
crime
prevention
Arwa
regarding
the
efforts
to
curb
what
has
been
such
as
in
2016
rise
in
terms
of
homicide
and
youth
crime.
However,
the
reason
we
are
here
is
not
because
the
Caribbean
Union
of
Canada
claims
to
have
the
panacea
but
works
towards
solutions.
You
have
heard
many
other
organizations
come
here
talk
about
issues
such
as
you
often
heard
regarding,
for
example,
housing
regarding
fundings,
and
we
work
with
many
of
these
organizations
such
as
even
right
here.
G
Some
of
these
people
are
people
that
we
work
with
among
you,
some
of
your
councilors.
Now
we
have
to
be
aware
of
the
fact
that
when
we
talk
in
terms
of
youth-
and
you
know,
you've
crime
and
we
talk
about
intervention,
crime
prevention,
but
also
we
have
to
address
family
preservation,
because
if,
on
a
macro
level,
I
can
talk
about
the
Ottawa
anti
black
racism
report,
I
can
talk
about
the
are
WA
gang
strategy.
I
can
talk
about
the
United
Nations
decade
of
Africans
people
on
a
micro
level
in
terms
of
the
reality.
G
I
have
to
talk
about
such
a
finger,
the
shooting
that
happened
in
Caldwell,
a
shooting
that
happen
in
front
of
children,
a
shooting
that
happened
in
the
very
community
in
broad
daylight,
which
was
the
11th
homicide
of
2017
in
the
City
of
Ottawa.
That
is
too
often
talked
of
as
being
boring,
but
a
city
which
is
our
city,
which
we
must
claim
and
for
that,
when
we
asking
for
$100,000,
the
Sun
may
seem
quite
high
to
some.
But
all
the
statistic
reported
that
it
costs
over
$100,000
for
one
inmate
a
year.
G
We
are
asking
for
a
program:
that's
$100,000,
to
have
access
in
our
high
schools
in
Ottawa
all
the
district
school
board's,
in
order
to
bring
the
awareness
to
do
youth,
an
awareness,
that's
brought
by
specialists
and
people
who
have
lived
our
life,
the
pilot
project
that
we
ran
already
had
a
homeless
homeless
or
former
homeless
youth.
It
had
a
black
man
who
had
been
incarcerated
for
ten
years.
G
Regarding
gang
a
gang
life,
we
also
have
a
survivor
of
sex
trafficking,
but
also
to
prevent
them
from
entering
or
even
considering
their
life,
by
showing
them
the
perspectives
and
the
choices
that
can
come
when
our
CEO
ketse
Peters
ran
the
pilot
project.
One
of
the
big
surprises
that
we
had
was
the
implication
of
white
youth.
Why?
Because,
in
this
21st
century
multicultural
Arwa,
the
white
kids
that
are
too
often
talked
about
in
the
news
regarding
opioids
also
have
black
friends.
G
They
have
friends
from
Africa
from
Haiti
from
Jamaica,
and
they
are
also
being
witnesses
to
the
destruction
that
is
happening
because
of
the
fact
of
a
lack
in
terms
of
culturally
appropriate
program
and
a
certain
sensitivity
that
requires
for
our
own
people
to
address
the
issues.
So
this
is
a
reason
why
we
are
here
to
address
you
the
reason
why
we
seek
for
the
City
of
Ottawa
budget
of
2018
to
give
us
this
amount
so
that
we
can
better
deliver
and
we
can
truly
and
truthfully
have
this
Ottawa
that
we
desire.
C
E
Good
afternoon,
madam
chair
and
committee
members,
thank
you
very
much
for
this
opportunity
to
address
the
committee.
As
the
madam
chair
said,
my
name
is
Lorna
LeMay
and
I
am
the
director
of
a
community
mediation
program
in
the
City
of
Ottawa
called
community
mediation,
Ottawa
I'm
here
wearing
four
hats
today,
so
that's
gonna
be
a
bit
of
a
juggle,
but
I'll
try
to
be
clear
about
the
different
hats.
E
So
hat
number
one
is:
is
the
community
mediation
organization
that
I
run,
which
has
absolutely
no
funding
zero
funding
and
what
we
do
is
we
deliver
conflict,
coaching
mediation
services,
group
dialogues
and
interventions
and
training
to
folks
in
the
community,
marginalized
folks
in
the
community
who
find
themselves
in
conflict
or
in
need
of
capacity-building
to
avoid
conflict
or
conflict
or
deal
with
conflict,
and
they
don't
have
any
types
of
funding
or
access
to
support
to
be
able
to
do
that.
So
we
run
all
of
these
programs.
E
They
are
all
run
with
trained
volunteers
that
are
trained
to
a
provincial
standard.
We
have
almost
a
hundred
volunteers
that
work
for
our
organization
and
delivering
and
giving
back
to
the
community
in
this
way.
So
that's
sort
of
hat
number
one
zero
funding,
I
just
came
back
from
our
annual
general
meeting,
we're
part
of
a
provincial
group
that
sets
standards
for
this
type
of
work
across
the
province
in
various
different
cities.
We
are
the
only
one.
I
was
quite
dismayed
to
realize
that
has
absolutely
no
city
support
in
any
way.
E
Every
last
one
of
our
sister
and
brother
organisations
has
city
funding.
I'll
give
you
an
idea
where
we
get
our
referrals
from.
We
get
a
lot
of
referrals
from
community
housing.
We
deal
in
many
of
the
community
housing
buildings
where
we
will
go
in,
and
capacity
build
and
help
the
folks
within
the
community
build
understanding,
cluesive,
'ti
and
facing
conflict
and
being
together
as
a
community
in
a
positive
way.
So
we
do
that
we
do
that
with
the
community
housing
staff
as
well
as
all
of
the
folks
within
the
buildings.
E
In
fact,
we
have
also
called
in
I
believe
we
have
and
a
request
from
councillor
Lieber
right
now
to
go
into
a
building
and
do
some
work
with
you.
So
we've
had
many
ward
councillors
reach
out
to
us
and
say:
could
you
help
us
with
a
community
dialogue
around
a
particular
issue
in
my
ward?
So
we
do
a
lot
of
that
work
and
again
it's
all
on
the
backs
of
volunteers
for
free
to
the
community.
E
So
the
third
hat
that
I
wear
a
second
one
is
as
a
member
of
the
provincial
organization.
That's
the
third
hat
that
I
wear
is.
We
have
launched
a
coalition
in
the
city
and
it's
called
the
O
RCC,
so
it's
the
Ottawa
restorative
community
coalition.
What
we've
done
is
we've
brought.
We
started
with
about
a
dozen
organizations.
E
We
are
now
24
and
Counting
of
organizations
across
the
city
that
build
capacity
in
the
community
at
the
grassroots
level,
the
frontlines
of
the
community,
whether
it
be
in
restorative
justice,
whether
it
be
in
conflict
resolution,
whatever
the
needs
of
the
community
are
at
the
grassroots.
That
is
what
we
do,
and
we've
brought
ourselves
together
as
a
coalition
to
see
to
make
sure
we're
not
duplicating
efforts
to
tap
into
our
own
resources
to
build
strength
as
an
as
a
group
as
an
advocacy
group
and
to
look
for
opportunities.
E
We
work
a
lot
with
Ottawa
police
we've
just
launched
formalized
our
partnership
with
them
and
we'd
take
referrals
from
them
for
doing
work
in
the
community
as
well
from
the
community
police
officers.
So
far,
we've
done
almost
40
referrals
from
the
police,
where
we
have
resolved
them
peacefully,
allowing
the
police
officers
to
go
and
do
the
police
type
work
come
January.
E
This
work
is
going
to
be
launched
with
all
of
the
frontline
police
officers,
so
not
just
the
community
police
officers,
but
all
of
the
frontline
officers
have
our
referral
cards
in
their
black
books
and
constantly
refer
cases
in
situations
to
us
where
we
can
resolve
an
issue
without
having
to
engage
in
this
system,
whether
it
be
the
judicial
system
by
law
or
anything
else,
I
think
just
the
final
thing
is
in
terms
of
funding.
We
need
to
keep
our
doors
open.
We've
proven
that
we
are
delivering
a
valuable
service.
E
We
have
statistics
every
which
way
you
can
imagine
that
we
can
share
the
value.
Is
there
the
needs?
Are
there
bringing
a
coalition
together?
We
feel
is
one
way
to
increase
our
voice
and
increase
the
services
that
we
can
provide
without
any
duplication,
so
sustainable
funding
is
certainly
one
thing,
but
also
project-based
funding.
So
we're
really
here
for
an
opening
for
both
thank
you
and.
F
You,
madam
chair,
just
following
up
on
your
comment
about
the
work
you're
doing
with
auto
police,
and
essentially
it
sounds
like
what
you're
doing
is
you're,
taking
some
of
the
issues
that
they're
dealing
with
and
and
and
resolving
in
a
different
way,
which
I'm,
assuming
frees
up
some
of
their
resources.
Because
are
you
compensated
in
any
way
by
o-p-s
for
the
work
that
you
do
in
in
conjunction
with
them?
Not.
E
At
all,
this
is
the
first
stage
of
the
program.
What
we
wanted
to
do
was
demonstrate
set
up
the
processes
and
the
orientation
of
the
officers
and
actually
demonstrate
the
value
of
the
work
that
we
can
do
and
they're
they're
neat.
There
will
definitely
have
to
be
an
ask
for
funding,
otherwise
we
will
not
be
able
to
continue
the
work,
especially
once
it
gets
rolled
out
to
the
entire
frontline
of
the
of
the
force.
Well,.
F
D
D
H
E
Have
been
as
community
mediation
Ottawa,
it's
been
four
years.
We
were
reconfigured
again
it's
that
funding
challenge
of.
Where
do
we
go
for
funding?
We've
actually
been?
We
have
been
in
existence
for
more
than
a
decade.
It's
just
under
sort
of
different
models
and
right
now
there
is
no
funding
model.
We
were.
We
are
literally
sitting
in
an
office
that
we
borrow
space
from,
and
my
position
is
slightly
funded.
Okay,.
A
D
E
You're
talking
about
sustainable
funding,
we
do
have
a
full
full
funding
proposal
that
I
would
be
happy
to
share
that
has
all
the
details.
It's
really
just
a
core
funding
of
two
FTEs
that
can
actually
run
the
office
and
the
training
programs
and
make
sure
that
we
deliver
the
service,
especially
to
Ottawa
police
by
law,
office
and
Ottawa,
Community
Housing
and
the
other
things
we're
quite
happy
to
to
go
on
a
project
basis
and
actually
look
for
grant
funding
as
well
to
support
some
of
the
programs
that
we
do.
So.
D
I
Thank
You,
chair
and
counselor
Lieber
sort
of
covered
some
of
the
questions
or
direction
that
I
was
going
with
and
I'm
just
curious
as
to
the
sources
of
your
funding.
Now
are
they
from
grants
from
the
Community,
Foundation
or
other
sources
that
we've
heard
from
some
of
the
other
groups,
and
why
do
you
feel
at
this
time
that
you've
you
need
to
come
to
the
city?
Is
it
because
you're,
seeing
more
and
more
of
your
resources,
eating
up
I
know
you're
at
st.
Paul's
I
think
in
terms
of.
E
E
So
the
the
support,
the
financial
support
that
we
have
right
now
actually
comes
through
the
Canadian
Institute
for
conflict
resolution,
part
of
it
they
donate
some
money.
In
terms
of
my
position,
they
donate
the
space
which
is
in
partnership
with
the
st.
Paul
University,
and
the
rest
of
it
is
through
fundraising
that
we
do,
and
also
through
some
private
donations,
which
are
very,
very
small
that
doesn't
even
cover
the
training
that
we
do
to
train.
Our
mediators
I
have
a
roster
of
about
50,
volunteer
mediators
that
are
trained
to
provincial
standards,
most
of
them.
E
The
vast
majority
of
them
are
mediators
by
by
profession,
who
have
either
retired
or
simply
want
to
give
back
to
the
community.
By
continuing
to
do
this
good
work,
so
there's
about
50
of
them.
We
have
about
25
folks
who
are
trained
in
conflict,
coaching
who
again
give
time
back
to
the
community,
doing
conflict,
coaching
and
then
I
also
have
a
group
of
trainers
and
facilitators
who
do
group
dialogues
and
training
work
with
frontline
workers,
so
social
workers.
E
We
often
you'll
often
see
us
in
a
resource
center
training,
the
frontline
program
staff
to
better
deal
with
the
conflicts
they're
faced
and
just
in
the
line
of
their
work.
So
that's
sort
of
the
pieces
that
we
do
so
the
funding
we
actually
run
right
now,
based
on
$30,000
a
year.
That's
it
and
that's
by
the
grace
of
the
Institute
and
some
private
donations.
I
I
I
D
J
Good
afternoon,
chair
afternoon,
councilors,
my
name
is
Mehta
premier
I'm,
a
resident
of
Bay
Shore,
neighborhood
and
I
would
like
to
share
my
thoughts
with
the
committee
today
regarding
how
to
increase
access
to
healthy
food
in
our
city.
I'm,
not
here,
to
represent
an
organization
I'll,
be
speaking
as
a
community
volunteer
and
resident
to
share
my
growing
concern
for
the
absence
of
on-ramp
funding
for
organizations
that
are
not
currently
receiving
funds
from
the
city.
J
I
would
urge
the
committee
to
be
bold
in
putting
forward
a
vision
to
support
emergent
organizations
that
offer
multiple
social
and
health
benefits
while
they
increase
food
access
in
our
city.
These
observations
are
mainly
anchored
in
Bay
Shore
neighborhood.
This
is
the
community.
I've
lived
for
the
last
16
years.
It's
a
community
with
many
challenges
for
low-income
families,
as
we
have
heard
earlier
today.
This
is
putting
great
pressure
on
access
to
affordable
food.
At
the
same
time,
the
neighborhood
has
unique
strengths
of
cultural
diversity
and
high
level
of
education.
J
In
a
sense,
the
community
reflects
the
rich
potential
of
its
residents,
as
well
as
the
many
ways
in
which
social
policies
so
far
are
failing.
Our
residents,
while
most
of
these
policies,
are
outside
the
scope
of
the
city
to
be
fair.
There
is
a
lot
that
the
city
can
do
to
facilitate
progress
in
ways
that
will
generate
most
positive
outcomes
with
the
least
spending
such
as
in
the
area
of
increasing
food
access.
Most
importantly,
the
city
initiatives
around
food
have
great
multiplier
effects.
J
They
increase
community
cohesion
engagement
and
unleash
the
energy
of
creative
solutions
to
persisted
problems
for
the
last
six
years,
I'm
actively
volunteering
and
organizing
in
neighborhood
initiatives
such
as
the
Bay
Shore
community
garden,
the
community
oven,
the
street
foods
collective
and
share
a
brief
observation
based
on
the
experience
of
these
projects.
What
has
started
as
additional
means
of
increasing
food
access
outside
the
regular
food
bank
channels
has
evolved
into
partnerships
and
cooperation
with
peer
organizations
working
in
other
communities
and
citywide.
J
The
result
has
been
an
active
contribution
to
an
expanding
network
of
peers
in
our
city
that
are
passionate
about
healthy
food
groups,
working
on
new
ways
of
growing
food
teaching,
about
food,
preparing
sharing
and
marketing
food.
The
spin-offs
in
terms
of
place,
making
the
nutritional,
social
and
educational
benefits
were
most
surprising
and
positive.
J
Later
for
several
events
and
ongoing
support,
we
have
relied
on
platforms
opor
offered
by
market
mobile,
hidden
harvest,
Ottawa
incubator,
kitchen
party,
Food,
Centre
food
share,
Ottawa,
just
to
name
a
few
of
the
emergent
organizations
that
I'm
drawing
the
committee's
attention.
This
is
the
huge
potential
of
these
like-minded
groups
that
I
would
like
to
speak
today
and
I'm
speaking
today
between
the
established
organizations
that
receive
city
funding
and
community
initiatives
that
are
fostered
by
the
existing
funding.
There
are
middle
range
and
grassroot
organizations
that
kickstart
creative
ways
to
respond
to
issues.
J
Some
of
these
issues
are
new
and
emerging.
Some
are
perennial
and
need
new
approaches.
In
addition
to
established
ways,
to
put
it
very
shortly,
we
do
need
the
food
banks
for
acute
crisis,
but
we
also
need
a
vision
to
foster
new
organizations
beyond
their
startup
phases.
Programs
that
need
to
be
complemented
by
went
inventive
ways
of
growing
sharing,
marketing
local,
fresh
and
minimally
processed
food.
J
I
would
like
to
urge
the
city
to
be
bold
and
visionary,
perhaps
not
in
the
dollar
amounts
at
the
initial
stage,
but
in
setting
up
a
framework
to
promote
innovation
in
our
city
at
the
grassroots
level,
when
it
relates
to
food
access
once
the
vision
and
framework
is
in
place.
Our
experience
in
one
underprivileged
neighborhood
shows
that
the
middle
range
organizations
will
have
multiple
nutritional
and
social
engagement
effects.
With
these
thoughts,
I
would
like
to
ask
them
committee,
firstly,
to
establish
a
new
on-ramp
fund
to
support
groups
that
address
new
and
emerging
needs.
J
Secondly,
to
find
the
resources
for
this
new
fund
without
making
any
cuts
from
the
proposed
proposed
sustainable
funds
for
social
service
agencies
and
thirdly,
to
set
up
a
mechanism
to
invite
and
prioritize
the
initiatives
of
these
new
organizations
by
involving
residents
in
the
process.
In
short,
I
would
like
to
suggest
that
you
present
a
vision
for
the
coming
wave
of
organizations
that
offer
creative
solutions
to
the
perennial
problems
of
healthy
food
access
in
our
city.
Thank.
D
K
You
mr.
vice
chair,
just
a
quick
comment
to
thank
you
for
coming
this
afternoon
and
for
speaking
on
behalf
of
those
groups,
I
think
food
security
is
exactly
the
area
that
we
could
see
a
benefit
for
if
we
were
to
find
the
funds
for
some
sort
of
on-ramp
funding.
There's
some
great,
exciting
work
happening
throughout
the
city
on
food
literacy,
on
growing
food,
on
cooking
food,
whether
it's
the
part
food
center
mo
mobile
market,
others,
so
I
think
it
was
really
important
to
hear
from
you
and
I.
Thank
you
for
coming
this
afternoon.
D
Good
further
questions.
Thank
you
for
coming.
Next,
we
will
hear
from
kimberly
mann.
The
collaborative
justice
program
is
kimberly
mann
in
the
gallery,
once
twice
kimberly
man,
okay,
we'll
move
on
speaker
number,
forty
Tara,
apretty
I
was
told
she
might
have
left
as
of
2:30
Tara.
You
'pretty
canada,
nepal,
solitary
for
peace,
No,
okay,
we'll
continue.
L
So
some
of
the
benefits
so
Jake,
Arlo
and
Katrina
six
are
the
founders
of
hen
harvest
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
found
throughout
our
research
with
them
is
that
they
see
profit
of
the
organizing
profit
generated
by
hidden
harvest.
So
any
funds
generated
by
the
organization
as
a
means
to
an
end-
and
this
end
is
to
ensure
social
good.
So
profits
are
redistributed
throughout
the
community
and
currently
they're
a
ways
away
from
achieving
profitability,
but
they
nevertheless
distribute
the
bounties
reaped
from
the
harvest
throughout
the
community
in
a
number
of
ways.
L
So,
firstly,
this
would
be
community
building,
so
harvests
are
not
only
an
opportunity
for
people
to
access
free
fruits
and
nuts
and
also
help
to
collect
fresh,
nutritious
foods
for
local
food
agencies.
So
harvests
are
also
community
building
events
in
which
people
from
particular
geographies
geographic
areas
come
together
to
learn,
collect
and
appreciate
local
foods.
Equally
harvests
provide
educational
opportunities
in
which
volunteers
learn
about
and
come
to
appreciate,
trees
and
urban
ecosystems,
so
they're
also
reconnecting
with
their
natural
environment.
L
Hidden
harvest
further
aims
to
develop
knowledge
by
offering
a
slew
of
food
skills
workshops
where
people
can
learn
how
to
use
and
preserve
the
foods
that
they
gather
in
these
ways.
Hidden
harvests
allow
aligns
itself
with
principles
of
food
sovereignty,
so
even
beyond
food
security
in
community
food
security
by
providing
meaningful
connections
to
food,
increasing
the
social,
cultural,
economic
and
food
value
of
urban
colleges
and
increasing
people's
control
over
their
food
systems.
L
So
it
is
a
multi-pronged
approach
to
food
issues,
so
they're
not
just
about
collecting
and
redistributing
food,
but
they're,
also
about
educating
and
developing
the
community
around
this.
So
here
food
is
not
just
a
means
to
an
end.
It's
an
it's
a
part
of
the
solution,
so
there
are
a
number
of
challenges,
the
first
of
which
is
securing
annual
funding
to
support
their
harvests.
L
So,
like
many
social
enterprises,
hidden
harvest
faces
struggles
and
ensuring
funding
to
support
their
operating
costs
and
to
grow
and
to
be
able
to
harvest
all
the
trees
that
they've
been
able
to
map
throughout
the
city.
Despite
these
challenges,
hidden
harvest
is
an
incredibly
innovative
and
creative
enterprise,
and
this
is
allowing
them
to
develop
and
grow.
L
Despite
their
funding
challenges,
for
instance,
their
tech
savvy
approach
to
harvest
lowers
their
operating
costs
has
allowed
them
to
create
a
harvest,
centered
social
network
of
sorts,
and
in
harnessing
this
creativity,
there
are
a
number
of
opportunities
to
ensure
the
continued
success
and
growth
of
hidden
harvests.
They
use
social
and
visual
midi
media
to
enhance
their
partnerships
with
other
urban
harvest
organizations
and
to
help
grow
through
their
sharing
knowledge
and
last
key
lessons
on
operations,
organization
and
funding.
L
L
So
this
idea
of
sharing
profit
and
profit
as
the
social
good,
again
and
hidden
harvest
we
see
is
an
organic
building
towards
organic
community
relations,
so
built
on
shared
interests,
shared
learning
opportunities
and
it
allows
people
to
connect
with
place
in
participating
in
community
building
processes
and
connecting
with
ecosystems
and
reconceptualize
in
this
idea
of
surplus.
So
a
surplus
food
is
seen
oftentimes
as
waste,
so
there
reconceptualizing,
the
surplus,
is
actual
edible.
L
Food
and
I
have
been
to
you
numerous
hidden
harvest
occasions
and
that's
actually
really
hard
to
attend
to
harvest,
because
there's
so
many
people
who
want
to
go
and
there's
not
enough
trees
to
meet
the
demand
at
the
moment.
So
an
increase
in
funding
would
allow
more
people
to
who
want
to
participate
in
harvests
who
participate
and
if
I'll
go
back
a
slide.
We.
L
D
D
M
Wonderful
beneficiaries
of
a
housing
subsidy
I
was
very
lucky
because
I
got
my
housing
subsidy.
After
two
years,
many
families
are
told
they
may
have
to
wait
five
years,
some
even
ten
years,
that's
to
period
all
you're
doing
by
making
them
wait.
That
long
is
putting
more
stress
on
them
and
we
all
know
what
stress
does
to
our
health
and
makes
them
more
vulnerable
because
they
are
making
more
choices
every
month
about
which
bills
they're
not
going
to
pay,
so
they
can
keeper
over
their
mouth.
M
So
it's
really
important
to
put
back
the
four
hundred
million
dollars
of
housing
money.
The
second
thing
I'll
talk
about
is
surround
pop
money.
I
live
in
a
food
desert,
I
live
in
Strathcona
Heights,
and
it
is
at
least
two
buses
to
get
to
any
grocery
store
and
those
are
usually
the
most
expensive
coffee,
stirrers,
so
they're,
not
cursory
stores
that
I
can
use
my
certain
time
because
I
live
on
ODSP,
and
so
it's
really
important
that
we
have
maximum
bar
and
the
food
bank
in
our
community
so
that
we
get
better
food.
M
M
M
Something
else
I'd
like
to
mention
is
I've
been
in
this
building,
probably
three
times
over
the
last
two
weeks.
The
first
time
I
went
by
to
see
the
accessibility
office
which,
as
long
as
I
have
lived
here,
neither
on
has
been
where
service,
Canada
and
service
Ontario
is,
and
the
planning
department
right
beside
the
Planning
Department
they're,
not
there
anymore
I
have
gone
three
times
to
the
information
desk
and
they
haven't
been
able
to
figure
that
now.
M
This
gives
a
very
bad
message
to
those
of
us
with
disabilities
who
make
use
of
the
accessibility
office,
often
to
report
various
problems
around
this
city.
Now
it
seems
to
be
hidden
to
be
to
talk
to
them
and
to
get
to
them.
I,
don't
know
what
has
happened,
but
something
needs
to
be
done
to
make
them
back
where
I
mean,
if
not
where
they
work,
at
least
in
a
place
that
where
we
know
where
they
are
I'm
a
can
get
to
them
easily
and
quickly.
M
I've
recorded
several
problems
in
this
city
which
the
city
didn't
create,
but
I
was
almost
run
over
on
Rito
Street
by
a
bus,
because
the
construction,
barber
market
didn't
have
a
flagger
that
day
and
they
had
this
big
truck
that
chatted
into
the
lane
and
I
was
almost
hit
and
run
over.
So
these
things
happen
sometimes
and
being
able
to
report
them
as
soon
as
possible
and
accurately
and
quickly
and
easily.
It
is
important
just.
C
G
C
C
D
Good
afternoon,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
so
very
quickly.
It's
my
understanding
that
the
City
of
Ottawa
used
to
have
a
housing
policy.
Planner
I,
don't
know
that
person's
name,
but
apparently
he
retired
four
years
ago,
and
since
that
time
his
position
has
not
been
replaced.
I
assume
if
he
were
to
be
replaced.
It
would
be
related
to
this
budget
for
your
department.
D
We
want
to
argue
strongly
in
favor
of
the
idea
that
someone
needs
to
take
the
lead
here
at
City,
Hall
on
ensuring
that
transit
oriented
developments,
prioritize
social
housing
in
the
City
of
Ottawa.
Otherwise,
we're
gonna
see
a
situation
where
the
property
values
around
the
light
rail
transit
stations
rapidly
increase.
They
are
already
rising
and
we're
gonna
see
gentrification
and
urban
displacement
of
some
of
our
most
vulnerable
citizens,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
ask
madam
chair
and
the
members
of
this
committee.
D
Because
we
know
the
city
is
taking
on
considerable
debt
to
build
that
new
light.
Rail
system,
which
is
wonderful,
but
how
is
the
community
going
to
benefit
from
that
system?
And
we
really
want
to
ensure
that
we're
not
seeing
situations
where
people
are
facing
urban
displacement.
So
that's
what
I'm
asking
for
I,
don't
think
it
would
require
new
money.
Maybe
people
could
do
it
within
their
existing
envelopes
and
just
assign
a
point
person.
We
need
someone
in
the
leadership
role
to
do
that
and
to
make
it
a
priority.
Thank
you.
Well,.
C
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
Hoshi
and
I
have
to
say
I
agree
with.
You
actually
raised
this
at
a
committee
last
week
that,
through
the
whole
Salvation
Army
exercise,
it
became
apparent
to
me
that
one
of
the
staff
positions
we
don't
have
in
this
corporation
anymore
as
a
social
planner
and
clearly
that's
something
that
we
would
all
benefit
from.
So
thank
you
for
raising
that
with
us
today.
Are
there
any
questions
seeing
none?
D
A
My
name
is
Silvia
Simpson
and
I
work
at
Center,
Town
daycare
center
Town
daycare
has
been
in
business
for
42
years
and
I've
been
there
for
almost
40
of
them.
More
importantly,
though,
I
am
a
parent
and
a
grandparent
as
parents.
There
are
some
very
important
questions
that
we
ask
ourselves
when
it
comes
to
our
little
ones
and
although
some
may
seem
trivial,
we
can
assure
you
that
they
are
in
fact,
critically
important
who
will
wash
their
hands
if
they
need
help.
Who
will
be
patient
with
them
on
grumpy
Monday
mornings?
A
Who
will
teach
them
how
to
share
with
others
who
will
help
them
sell
it
sort
out
a
problem,
make
sure
that
they're
properly
dressed
for
outside
and
make
sure
that
they
feel
safe
and
loved
or,
more
importantly,
who
can
step
in
and
do
our
most
most
important
job
while
we're
away
working
and
the
simple
answer
is:
whoever
does
that
job
best?
Without
a
doubt,
our
children
are
going
to
be
the
single
greatest
investment
of
our
lives
and
we
want
them
to
have
the
greatest
opportunities
out
there
and
why
shouldn't
we?
E
A
E
A
My
name
is
Karla
Tomlinson
I'm,
a
longtime
health
care
educator
at
Wellington
childcare
centre
down
the
street
from
here
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
obviously,
the
center
I
belong
to,
as
well
as
the
parents
and
the
community
that
accessed
the
center.
Since
the
freeze
of
subsidy
spaces
in
2016,
our
centre
has
has
really
felt
the
impact
most
of
the
families
that
we
service
come
come
from
a
marginalized
sector
and
definitely
require
those
subsidies.
A
When
the
subsidies
became
unfrozen,
which
was
it
went
from
September
of
2016
to
the
end
of
March
to
17,
we
weren't
seeing
a
rejuvenation
of
families
being
allowed
to
attend
our
centres
when
we
started
speaking
to
these
families.
The
information
that
was
shared
was
that
you
know
they
were
given
the
permission
to
come
and
look
at
our
centres,
but
if
they
wanted
a
subsidized
space,
they
needed
to
go
to
a
city
run
municipal
center
only
and
that's
where
their
subsidy
would
be
fulfilled.
A
The
impact
to
all
of
the
centers
in
the
downtown
core
has
has
been
quite
strong.
Centres
have
had
to
lay
off
staff
and
many
families.
The
worst
part
of
it
is
that
families
are
not
able
to
access
the
these
empty
spaces,
because
the
city
is
not
offering
up
subsidies
for
them
to
go
to
work
in
school,
so
that
that's.
Why
we're
here
today,
and
we
really
want
to
speak
on
behalf
of
our
communities-
we've
been
in
in
the
downtown
core
for
over
40
years.
A
D
H
D
C
Okay,
thank
you,
counsellor
Brockington
and
just
let
me
start
by
saying
thank
you
to
all
of
the
delegations
who
came
out
today.
I
think
I.
Think
for
all
of
us
to
hear
from
so
many
people
about
so
many
pressing
issues
in
our
community
he's
a
good
reminder
of
the
people
in
this
neighborhood
in
this
city.
That
really
need
our
help,
and
you
know
I've
said
this
before
it
I'll
say
it
again.
C
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
address
that
need
and
when
you
have,
when
you
have
an
organization
like
the
social
Planning
Council
coming
and
offering
to
match
our
funding,
I
felt
like
we're
in
the
dragon
stands
like
I'll.
Take
that
deal,
because
that
we
need
the
help.
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
get
this
done.
I
pitched
this
as
the
chair
of
this
committee,
I
pitched
it
to
the
mayor
and
city
manager
during
a
run-up
to
this
budget
and
I'm
disappointed
it's
not
in
the
budget,
it
needs
to
be
in
the
budget.
C
D
Thank
you
and
madam
chair
and
again
thank
you
to
our
treasurer
and
assistant
treasurer
finance
staff,
all
general
managers
for
their
efforts
to
get
this
budget
before
us
and
for
the
members
of
the
community
who
have
come
out
today
to
share
their
thoughts
and
concerns
with
us
and
for
other
members
who
have
participated
in
other
committee
meetings.
It's
3:30,
so
I
will
do
my
best
to
keep
my
questions
short
and
to
the
point
I
wanted
to
just
like
every
committee.
D
D
As
far
as
the
the
addition
of
FTEs
and
that
increase
in
2018,
there
have
been
investments
within
the
last
year
or
two
Oh
to
address
the
shortage
of
FTEs
that
the
city
has
had
and
to
respond
to
particularly
the
response
times
that
had
fallen,
and
so
I
asked
the
general
manager
through
you,
madam
chair,
the
FTEs
that
are
being
incorporated
into
the
budget.
I
think
we
can
agree
are
necessary.
D
What
is
the
GM's
thoughts
on
whether
this
is
sufficient?
Is
the
number
that
has
been
proposed
by
staff
the
number,
because
that's
what
we
can
afford,
or
is
the
number
being
proposed
by
staff,
the
actual
number
that
will
get
us
to
the
equilibrium
that
we
need
as
a
city,
to
provide
emergency
services
to
our
residents.
O
Cherrylle
last
Chief
Cassidy
to
come
up
and,
and
maybe
also
add
some
comments
if
he
wishes,
but
as
the
counselor
indicated
we
had
fallen
behind.
This
committee
worked
with
us
to
to
look
at
the
challenges
we
had
and
in
a
very
short
period
now
we'll
have
added
if
these
14
are
added
to
the
to
the
complement
added
50
overall
in
this
term
of
counsel
and
10
vehicles,
what
I
can
tell
you
and
I'll
achieve
Cassie
to
talk
more
in
detail?
If
you
wish,
as
he
indicated,
we
have
now
gotten
back
on
track.
O
We
are
now
meeting
the
standard
that
this
committee
and
council
approved
of
eight-minute
response
at
the
75th
percentile
for
all
CTS,
one
of
the
most
critical
calls.
We
met
that
we're
now
there
with
the
resources
that
have
been
added,
the
analysis
that
we
have
of
the
growth
of
this
year
and
likely
the
growth
of
next
half
year.
D
They're,
you
believe,
there's
a
direct
correlation
between
the
added
number
of
FTEs
and
better
response
times.
It's
not
because
the
weather's
been
better
because
the
construction
may
be
from
one
year
to
another.
I
tend
to
agree
with
you,
but
I
want
to
make
sure,
after
only
analyzing
six
to
nine
months,
that
we
have
enough
time
to
make
that
conclusion,
but
you're
fairly
confident
going
into
2018
that
we
are
I
am.
O
Chair
and
those
issues
that
you
that
you
indicate
whether
it's
weather,
whether
it's
construction
and
you
won-
you
didn't
mention
the
the
very
busy
and
a
challenging
year
from
an
emergency
response
capability
of
our
2017
activities.
It
also
added
to
that
were
also
included
in
that,
but
I'll
turn
over
to
chair
cat
to
chair
Cassidy
to
Chief
Cassidy.
If
he
has
any
additional
comments,
you'd
like
to
add.
P
D
You,
madam
chair,
through
you
to
the
GM
of
Parks
and
Recreation,
we
heard
a
delegation
today
from
God
ago
to
talk
about
the
benefits
quality
of
life
benefits,
of
having
accessible
washrooms,
not
only
at
transit
stations,
but
in
some
of
our
more
neighborhood
parks.
Could
I
just
hear
a
response
from
staff?
Is
there
a
plan
to
try
and
incorporate
more
accessible
washrooms,
particularly
in
our
green
spaces?
Next
year,.
Q
Chair,
yes,
so
there
is
the
city
currently
rents
out
every
summer
and
installs
about
a
hundred
portable
toilets
in
parks
across
the
city,
about
half
of
those
are
done
directly
by
the
city
and
in
the
other,
half
primarily
through
sports
organizations.
Much
like
the
gada
got
a
go
group
we're
suggesting
and
we
do
offer
that
service
to
all
of
our
sports
leagues,
so
they
have
the
ability
to
contract
through
us
through
one
provider
to
have
units
installed
at
their
sites.
Q
D
Q
D
To
be
engaged
in
that
process,
if
I
could
move
over
to
bylaw,
in
particular
mr.
Demonte,
with
the
pending
legalization
of
marijuana
around
at
or
around
July
1st
next
year,
what
will
bylaws
role
be
with
respect
to
shops
which
are
not
authorized
or
legal
to
sell?
We
have
had
we,
the
city
have
had
challenges
in
addressing
the
illegal
pot
shops
that
exist
now,
there's
a
little
chicken-and-egg,
whether
it's
bylaw
issue
versus
police
issue.
O
The
vice-chairs
question
is
is
apropos,
as
this
committee
knows,
the
senior
levels
of
govern
both
the
federal
and
provincial
government
and
now
are
starting
to
let
us
know
and
we're
starting
to
see
the
legislation
as
to
where
they're
they're
going
with
this.
The
government
of
Ontario
is
doing
a
a
crown
corporation
like
an
LCBO
and
they'll
be
set
up.
So
fundamentally
that
will
go
through
the
normal
planning
process.
We're
going
to
be
consulted.
The
city
is
set
up.
O
The
other
thing
that
we
you'll
be
you'll
be
seeing
is
what
one
will
be
able
to
get
home
delivery
to
through
the
official
process.
There
will
be
no
other
legal
entity
that
will
exist
and
our
understanding
is
both.
The
federal
and
provincial
government
are
giving
police
services
more
tools,
although
they
they
have
several
right
now
under
the
Criminal
Code
to
close
the
the
ones
you're
referring
to
the
illegal
ones.
O
So
as
it
stands
now,
if
one
would
project
in
time-
and
we
stand
to
be
corrected
because
you
understand
this-
is
a
moving
file
and
there's
a
lot
of
details,
we
don't
have
there
wouldn't
be
per
se
much
role
for
by
law
officers.
Now,
there's
talk
on
the
on
the
tobacco
side
or
the
use
of
the
product
are,
there,
tools
will
be
given
to
municipal
law
enforcement
officers
there
and
I'll.
Let
Roger
talk
about
that,
but
that's
kind
of
like
smoking,
bylaws
and
and
all
that
that
are
being
harmonized
as
well
too
so
Roger.
D
As
a
charity
I,
the
only
thing
I
cannot
I
guess
is
about
the
G
M
DeMatteis
mentioned
is
the
smoke-free
bylaws,
so
our
smoke-free
by
law
currently
would
would
prohibit
the
use
of
marijuana
in
in
parks,
I
guess.
The
question
really
is
what
legal
authority
will
be
given
to
regulate
the
common
areas
of
apartment,
buildings
and
office
buildings,
and
things
like
that?
So
that's
yet
to
be
determined,
so
we're
hoping
that
in
the
near
future,
we'll
have
some
answers
to
those
questions.
D
But
at
this
point
we
don't
really
know
can
I
just
underscore
the
importance
that
and
I
said
this
at
the
finance
and
Audit
Committee
of
the
Police
Services
Board-
that
your
shop
documents
the
time
and
resources
that
are
being
spent,
particularly
for
the
legalization
of
marijuana
file,
because
if
the
province
and
feds
are
collecting
tax
revenues
they're
getting
something.
And
yet
there
are
costs
that
municipalities
have
to
incur,
because
a
higher
level
government
has
passed
a
law.
We
need
to
make
a
strong
case
and
document
what
those
costs
are
to
our
taxpayer.
O
If
I
may
encourage
you,
that
is
part
of
the
work
that
staff
are
doing
and
collectively
the
municipalities
through
the
Federation
of
Canadian
Municipalities
are
also
documenting
that
at
a
national
level
to
be
able
to
make
representations
to
the
federal
government.
Obviously,
but
we
are
doing
that
in
concert
with
all
our
municipal
colleagues
and
particularly
the
finance
team,
so
that
is
being
undertaken
as
we
speak
and
again
it's
kind
of
a
moving
file.
D
Our
new
residents
of
the
city
have
indicated
that
the
social
needs,
the
medical
and
social
needs
that
some
of
these
refugees
carry
are
much
greater
than
what
we're
expected
and
that
these
agencies
are
now
having
to
invest
more
resources
with
these
refugees
than
expected,
and
so
I'd
like
to
ask:
are
these
costs
associated
with
the
refugees?
In
particular,
there's
net
increases
to
those
costs
than
what
we're
previously
budget.
Are
we
again?
D
Is
there
any
capacity
to
document
these
and
and
say
to
the
federal
government
as
much
as
we
welcome
and
want
to
help
and
serve
and
and
help
them
integrate
and
into
society
and
deal
with
the
various
challenges
that
they
may
be?
Faced
with
that
there
were
additional
costs
that
were
not
anticipated
and
we're
looking
to
offset
some
of
those
is
that
being
addressed
any
further.
N
N
Think
that,
as
part
of
the
review,
we
can
certainly
try
to
identify
what
different
pressures
have
been
contributing
to
these
to
the
the
needs
in
the
community
and
if
there's
any
opportunity
that,
as
a
result
of
that
analysis,
reflects
that
there's
another
opportunity
to
engage
another
level
of
government
in
a
very
you
know
concrete
way
in
terms
of
what
we're
finding
in
terms
of
the
needs
of
the
City
of
Ottawa.
We
can
certainly
do
that.
Okay,.
S
S
If
you
approve
this
budget,
you
add
14
new
paramedics
for
this
year,
then
six
months
you
will
pay
a
hundred
percent
of
that
cost,
but
next
year
the
ministry
will
add
their
50%
it's
only
because
our
fiscal
years
are
not
exactly
the
same
as
with
the
province,
so
we
have
as
the
calendar
year
and
they
have
the
year
from
March
to
April.
So
that's
why,
in
its
standard,
so
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
investments
you're
making
is
fifty
percent
will
be
paid
by
the
government
of
Ontario.
S
Okay,
you
talked
about
the
14
paramedics
that
are
planned
here.
Through
this,
these
investments.
It
will
the
plan
be
effective
from
July
1st.
Yes,
normally,
as
you
know,
our
goal
is
that
these
people
are
graduates
from
the
college
here
and
when
they
do
graduate
in
the
spring,
usually
in
June
the
process
is
over,
people
are
hired
and
it
takes
about
a
month
to
integrate
them
in
the
corporation
to
our
procedures
or
policies,
and
then
on
July
1st
they'll
be
on
the
road
of
operating
on
the
territory.
S
And
until
then,
as
council,
we
will
maintain
the
percentages
that
yes,
one.
One
of
your
colleagues
asked
me.
The
question
in
English
I
can
assure
you
that,
and
chief
Cassidy
said
it
to
the
investments
you've
made
brought
us
back
to
our
goal
of
75
percent
of
response
time
to
critical
situation
within
eight
minutes.
S
You
don't
have
to
check
this,
but
there's
a
section
for
CCTV
camera
and
the
replacement
I
do
believe
in
the
importance
of
having
a
safe
infrastructure.
Did
you
ever
do
an
analysis
on
the
opportunity,
just
like
the
London
to
have
these
things
in
public
spaces,
high
density
in
high
density
area
like
Lansdowne
and
buy
wine
market?
S
S
The
idea
that
the
state
would
be
spying
is
not
well
welcome,
but
we
know
that
London
and
in
other
cities
in
the
world
it
is
an
additional
tool,
but
mr.
Porter,
he
will
give
you
more
details
on
this.
Madam
chair
we've
looked
at
what
was
going
on
in
London
and
elsewhere,
and
right
now
we
will
be
bringing
a
policy
to
the
committee
I
hope
in
the
spring
2018.
S
R
How's
fees
and
I
hope
that
when
we
come
back,
you
come
back
to
committee.
We
have
a
wholesome
discussion
because
I
know
that
building
codes
involve
by
la
staffs
involved.
I
know
that
some
member
of
Janice's
teams
involved
I
think
there's
some
issues.
There's
some
gaps
there
that
everyone's
throwing
the
ball
each
other
so
I
just
wanted
to
raise
that,
in
my
mind,
the
conformity
to
Building
Code
services
and
property
standards
and
other
bylaws
should
be
our
primary
focus
in
this
license
objective.
R
So
maybe
more
of
a
statement
on
that
on
that
front,
the
other
one
is
the
so
I'll
move
on
to
the
housing
social
services
group
Janice.
If,
if
you're,
ok
with
that
Janice,
maybe
on
page
69
there's
under
the
housing
section
that
says,
there's
an
additional
3.8
million
dollars,
he
just
run
run
us
through
what
that
in
those
additional
dollars
will
will
achieve.
N
R
N
R
N
So
the
way
that
the
social
housing
is
set
up
under
the
Housing
Services
Act
is
that
every
single
year
they
look
at
a
series
of
indices
related
to
things
like
utilities,
mortgages,
insurance
and
those
sorts
of
things,
and
they
set
certain
percentages
of
increases
and
it's
legislated
and
the
City
of
Ottawa
must
pay
those.
So
that's
on
the
social
housing
aside
from
the
provinces
perspective
and
that's
a
pressure
of
1.7
million
than
the
other
1.3
million
dollars,
as
we've
talked
about
here
before
it
committee.
N
Is
we
over
the
years
we
have
benefited
from
about
32
million
dollars
in
federal
funding
that
has
slowly
eroding
and
we've
lost
1.3
million
dollars
this
year
and
by
2029
that
that
the
balance
of
that
28
million
dollars
will
pretty
much
be
completely
eroded.
So
so
what
happens?
Is
we
either
as
a
city
we
backstop
it,
or
it
does
mean
that
folks
that
are
benefiting
from
social
housing
or
subsidies
would
essentially
lose
their
subsidies.
R
On
page
45,
another
housing
question,
it
says:
there's
an
amount,
a
sorry
page,
48
community
homeless
prevention
initiative.
So
we
spent
around
one
hundred
and
thirty
million
dollar
a
year
and
this
year
we're
growing
it
by
one
point:
seven:
six
million.
Can
you
just
clarify
what,
though
I
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
get
is?
Is
there
any
additional
new
capital,
or
these
remain
operational
subsidy
objectives.
B
So
in
regards
to
so
I
think
you
are
confusing
the
two
madam
chair
I
think
you
may
be
confusing
the
two
line
items
under
housing
programs.
We
do
have
that
1.7
million
increase
and
as
Janice
previously
mentioned,
that
due
to
the
indices
for
social
housing,
what
she
just
explained
under
the
community
homelessness
prevention
initiative.
You
see
a
figure
there
for
2018
of
50
million
dollars.
Thirty
six
thirty
seven
point.
Six
million
of
that
is
from
the
province
and
the
city
further
subsidizes
that
envelope
by
twelve
point,
eight
million
dollars.
B
Community
homelessness
prevention,
initiative
envelope,
funds,
a
variety
of
housing
and
homelessness
initiatives,
so
it
is
emergency
shelter
per
diems.
It's
the
per
diems.
We
pay
to
our
residential
services,
homes,
operators,
it's
other
housing
and
homelessness
programs
in
the
city,
and
it's
also
the
housing
benefits
that
Ontario
Works
administers
in
our
behalf.
So
it's
a
suite
of
services
that
are
funded
there.
Okay,.
R
R
Okay,
moving
on
to
other
ones
in
social
services,
what
is
the
so?
We've
had
a
tough
year
in
child
care
and
in
long-term
care.
We've
certainly
been
been
discussing
this
for
some
time.
What
is
the
current
waiting
list
for
our
long-term
care
access?
So
we
often
talk
about
the
10,000
for
the
registry
for
affordable
housing,
but
for
long-term
care
in
Ottawa
for
the
I
guess
we
have
four
or
five
centers
so.
N
Alas,
Dean,
let
who
is
the
administrator
for
the
director
for
long-term
care,
we
do
have
four
long-term
care
homes
and
in
terms
of
the
waitlist
he'll,
provide
you
with
the
numbers.
But
what's
important
is
that
there
may
be
some
duplication,
as
people
may
have
interest
in
one
or
more
homes.
So
there
may
be
some
duplication
and
numbers
that
Dean,
let's
going
to
provide.
A
Two
counts
of
Fleury
through
madam
chair:
the
wait
list
for
the
city
long-term
care
homes.
Currently
we
have
twenty
three
hundred
eighteen
individuals
on
the
waitlist.
Individuals
are
eligible
for
up
to
five
choices
and,
as
Janice
indicated,
some
of
these
people
may
be
on
more
than
one
homes
list,
and
currently
the
access
to
homes
of
the
City
of
Ottawa
is
around
two
years
to
get
into
one
of
our
homes.
A
R
A
R
Sorry
I'm
just
wanting
to
make
sure
I
cover
I
guess
my
last
one
for
this
group
would
relate
to
child
care
services.
That's
my
last
one
for
this
group.
So
there's
an
increase
in
almost
18
million
dollars
in
the
budget
for
child
children,
services,
I
guess.
My
question
is
I'm
unclear
because
I
read
some
numbers
with
the
Auditor
General.
We've
exchanged
some
emails
so
today
how
many
people
are
on
the
wait
list
for
subsidy
and
then,
if
this
budgets
approved
under
the
current
format?
How
would
that
impact
the
current
waiting
list
for
subsidies
there.
N
Are
currently
approximately
1,500
families
waiting
for
a
subsidy
with
the
expansion
funding
that
we're
receiving
from
the
province,
we
hope
to
serve
over
1400.
So
we
get
hope
to
get
to
the
point
where
we
have
significantly
reduced,
if
not
eliminated
the
waitlist,
especially
for
the
children,
0
0
to
6
and
with.
N
D
F
You
much
very
much
mr.
chair,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
heard
a
number
of
delegations
speak
about
is
the
four
million
dollars
in
in
funding
for
for
housing.
That
it
was
said
was
taken
away.
So
this
has
come
up
before
so
can
you
clarify?
Was
it?
Was
it
taken
away?
Was
it
repurposed
what
happened
to
that
four
million
dollars
so.
B
In
2015,
we
had
an
approximately
eleven
million
dollar
pressure
in
the
housing
services
budget,
which
is
about
ten
percent
of
our
budget,
and
this
was
primarily
due
to
what
Janice
talked
about
earlier
is
the
provincial
indices
that
we
use
to
calculate
what
we
paid
to
social
housing
providers.
So
at
that
point
in
time,
we
managed
to
mitigate
about
seven
million
dollars
of
that
11
million
dollar
pressure,
and
we
made
the
decision
to
transfer
to
realign
that
four
million
dollars
from
capital
money
into
operating
money.
F
So
the
overall
housing
budget
didn't
change,
but
how
we,
how
we
used
it,
how
we
purposed
it
changed
that
is
correct.
Okay,
one
of
the
delegations
spoke
about.
Only
52,
affordable
units
have
been
built
in
2016,
she'd,
inspect
to
2017,
so
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
tell
us
how
many
units
we
built
in
2017
and
how
many
we
have
in
the
pipe
for
the
next
say
three
years
to.
B
Date
in
2017
we've
completed
146
units.
We
currently
have
255
units
that
are
in
various
stages
of
development,
we'll
make
an
announcement
earlier
those
earlier
next
week
about
another,
let's
say
about
another
130
units
and
with
funding
that
we
have,
through
our
various
federal
provincial
funding
streams
and
new
funding,
that
we
attracted
through
the
home
for
good
program
through
an
expression
of
interest,
we'll
be
able
to
build
somewhere
in
about
three
up
to
three
hundred
units
twenty-eight
to
approve
in
2018.
F
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
appreciate
that
clarification.
We
also
heard
a
lot
about
about
the
Ottawa
festivals
and
what
they've
done
and
funding
they
have
and
is
a
potential
funding
source
for
the
Ottawa
festivals.
Ask
the
new
hotel
task
tax
rather
and
and
if
so,
like.
What
role
do
we
have
to
play
in
those
discussions?
If
any.
H
We
2017
was
the
high-water
mark
for
hotel
tax
at
the
City
of
Ottawa.
So
we're
not
certain
at
this
point
in
time.
Actually
how
much
we
will
raise.
As
you
know
this,
we
don't
even
have
the
report
passed.
It
will
be
discussed
at
Council
next
week.
So
at
this
point
in
time,
I
can't
tell
you
if
there's
going
to
be
extra
monies
raised,
that
we
don't
have
to
pass
to
Ottawa
tourism
and
what
our
role
would
be
in
it.
I'm
I
cannot
tell
you
at
this
point
in
time:
councilor.
That's
still
all
to
be
determined.
H
F
H
It's
what
they
raised
in
2017
from
the
voluntary
tax
that
we
will
have
to
make
certain
that
that
at
least
that
amount
goes
to
Ottawa,
tourism
and
I
understand.
There
was
also
a
discussion
about
actually
increasing
the
amount
that
they
get
to
be
able
to
deal
with
what
we're
referring
to
as
the
2017
hangover.
The
fact
that
there's,
not
all
those
events
happening
in
2018
that
happened
in
2017
and.
F
H
Think
we
do,
but
we
do
sit
on
the
Ottawa
Tourism
Board
I
do
believe.
We
have
two
members
who
sit
on
the
board,
so
they
come
up
with
their
plan
as
to
how
they
are
going
to
spend
the
money
and
they
have
to
report
back
to
us,
but
I
didn't
see
under
the
regulation
that
we
had
an
ability
to
direct
them
to
spend
it
one
way
or
the
other
okay.
Thank
you
for
that.
F
We
also
talked
obviously
a
lot
about
ramp
funding,
and
so
my
question
miss
Burrell.
If
somehow
this
committee
or
a
council
next
week,
found
a
way
to
to
put
more
money
on
the
table
for
ramp
funding.
How
long
would
it
then
take
your
team
to
in
effect,
administer
and
deploy
those
funds
to
applicants
so.
N
We
do
have
experience,
obviously
with
with
project
funding,
as
we
had
been
issuing
it
in
the
past.
Clara
Farrar
is
the
manager
of
partner
and
stakeholder
initiatives,
and
she
has
a
tremendous
experience
with
you
know
the
timing,
the
engagement
that's
required
and
the
rollout
and
the
implementation,
ultimately,
the
the
OSHA
wins
so
I'll
turn
over
to
Clara,
to
provide
you
with
a
bit
of
detail
terms
of
past
selection
processes.
A
Madam
chair,
what
we
would
do
first
is
look
at
what
our
process
was
in
just
before
2012
and
establish
a
similar
type
of
process.
We
would
consult
with
the
community
of
partners
who
you
heard
from
some
of
whom
you
heard
from
today,
and
we
would
expect
that
if
we
were
to
use
similar
structures,
we
could
have
that
funding
out
by
the
end
of
a
q1.
Okay,.
F
A
If
ma'am
sheriff
it's
the
will
of
counsel
that
we
undertake
that
review
in
2018,
what
we
would
do
is
likely
approach
this
depending
on.
Of
course,
what
counsel
decides
approach
this
as
a
project
funding
situation,
issuing
one-time
project
funding
for
2018
to
organizations
following
as
I
said,
similar
processes
in
terms
of
funding
allocations
that
we've
had
in
the
past
for
project
funding?
That
would
give
us
2018
to
conduct
a
community
funding
framework
review,
and
we
would
then
bring
at
the
beginning
of
2019,
bring
back
revised
community
funding
framework
to
Council
with
recommendations
for
approval.
Okay,.
F
N
Are
committed
to
doing
that
review,
however,
if
a
direction
from
Council
would
work
as
well,
and
it
would
be
just
back
to
your
question
about
on-ramp.
It
wouldn't
be
reviewed
of
on-ramp,
as
there
is
none
right
now.
That
would
be
the
project
funding,
but
it
would
be
the
entire
sustainability
fund
envelope
of
23
million
dollars.
F
F
N
I
I
N
I
N
Read
their
document
my
I'd
have
to
revisit
it,
but
my
understanding
is
that
it
was
it.
They
recognized
the
commitment
came
from
from
from
the
city
as
a
step
forward,
but
there
was
some
additional
asks:
I
think
around
increasing
the
sustainability
fund
and
and
creating
more
project,
creating
the
project
funding.
But
I.
Could
we
look
at
that
document.
I
I
With
regards
to
the
second
point,
in
your
response
to
councilor
egg
line
now
you're
saying
that
we're
reviewing
it
in
2018,
are
we
reviewing
it
because
this
came
forward
or
was
it
sounds
like
so?
Was
this
not
on
your
working
plan
to
be
reviewed
in
2018,
or
are
we
doing
it
reactively
as
a
result
of
these
groups
coming
forward
now
in
suggesting
this,
we.
I
I
B
B
Sorry
33
percent
we're
58
percent
percent,
and
the
federal
government
is
about
nine
percent.
So
from
an
operating
perspective,
we
are
contributing
more
money
than
any
other
level
of
government
from
a
capital
perspective.
We
continue
to
contribute
more
money
than
any
other
level
of
government
through
things
like
collecting
money
from
land
sales,
development
charges,
the
housing
reserve
from
things
like
refinancing
of
mortgages
with
Ottawa
community
housing.
So
we
are
maintaining
our
capital
contributions.
I
I
I'll
try
to
stay
around
these
issues
since
I
have
you
here
now
with
regards
to
the
the
Syrian
refugees
and
just
refugee
file
in
general?
Is
that
fairly
steady
now,
and
is
it
fair
to
say
that
the
next
step
is?
Is
the
challenges
or
the
spike
that
we
might
see
from
the
asylum
seekers?
I
know
the
mayor's
working
group
met
last
week.
B
Madam
chair,
so
we
started
to
see
an
increase
in
refugee
claimants
from
the
United
States
throughout
the
summer
of
last
year.
To
date,
we've
seen
238
households
that
have
sought
emergency
shelter
within
the
city
of
Ottawa.
Many
of
them
are
family,
some
are
singles
or
fewer
couples.
So
what
we've
done
we
provided?
We've
been
able
to
place,
probably
only
about
18
of
those
238
families.
We
are
practicing
what
we
call
active
diversion
so
we're
encouraging
people
who
are
coming
to
the
city
to
stay
with
family
and
friends.
B
Some
are
making
their
own
arrangements,
some
are
moving
on
to
other
communities,
but
we
certainly
even
before
this
influx
of
refugee
claimants
from
the
u.s.,
had
started
to
see
a
significant
and
Staind
increase
in
request
for
a
Family
Shelter
placement
that
started
in
September
of
2016
normally
through
in
a
given
year.
The
numbers
fluctuate
month-to-month,
but
we
haven't
seen
that
reduction
since
about
September
of
2016.
So
over
this
summer
we
did
a
couple
of
different
things
to
try
and
create
flow
and
movement
within
the
Family
Shelter
system.
B
We
brought
a
report
to
Council
called
the
local
priorities
report
in
September
of
this
year
and
now.
Families
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
in
the
city
of
Ottawa
and
are
staying
within
one
of
our
family
shelters
or
our
off-site
services
are
automatically
considered
for
all
social
housing
options
across
the
city
of
Ottawa
that
are
suitable
to
their
family
size.
Before
we
would
have
families
who
would
select
three
or
four
communities
and
then
their
wait
times
would
be
much
longer.
We're
also
strictly
enforcing
the
one
offer
policy.
B
So
when
families
receive
an
offer
of
social,
social,
housing
or
rent
supplement,
and
then
their
family,
a
shelter
system
they're
expected
to
accept
that
offer.
Through
these
initiatives
we're
trying
to
create
flow
and
movement,
so
we
can
be
responsive
to
the
increased
demand
was
seeing.
We're
also
strongly
promoting
these
of
housing
allowances,
which
is
a
portable
housing
subsidy
to
encourage
families
to
move
out
into
the
private
mark,
promotes
a
choice
and
helps
with
affordability
from
families
and
we're
strategically.
You
know,
making
investment
so
that
we
can
continue
to
afford
to
offer
those
housing
allowances.
A
Yes,
madam
chair,
we
continue
to
work
very
closely
with
community
partners,
settlement
service
providers
and
others
working
specifically
to
respond
to
the
needs
of
new
arrivals
and
refugees,
and
we
will
continue
to
do
that.
We
sit
on
refugee
six
one
three
and
through
our
community
funding
team,
we
are
in
constant
contact
with
agencies
that
are
feeling
or
experiencing
pressures
with
regard
to
new
arrivals
and
or
any
other
operational
pressures
that
might
have
some
kind
of
association
with
newcomers,
and
you
know
we
will
continue
to
do
that.
I
We
heard
quite
a
bit-
and
this
came
up
as
I
mentioned
earlier-
at
one
of
our
budget
meetings
with
councilor
egg
line,
councillor
Taylor
in
the
West
End
about
bedbugs,
and
we
heard
it
from
some
of
the
delegations
today
so
and
it
seems
like
everybody's,
pointing
the
finger
to
someone
to
who's
supposed
to
be
helping
with
that.
So
what
is
the
responsibility
of
us
as
a
city
to
address
that
issue
and
I
know
Public
Health,
some
sort
of
awareness
campaigns
and
public
education
campaigns?
But
what
is
there
all
of
the
municipality?
B
Can
certainly
comment
on
some
work
that
Housing
Services
is
is
doing
in
cooperate.
Collaboration
with
Ottawa
Public,
Health
they've
provided
some
funding
to
the
housing
services
towards
year
end
for
the
last
three
years.
What
we've
done
with
that
funding
is
we've
reached
out
to
one
of
our
housing
loss
prevention
agencies?
Actually,
axon
Lodge
mom
who's
then
used
that
money
to
buy
what
we
would
call
bedbug
supplies.
B
Things
like
mattress
covers
in
bed,
motes
and
Vaseline
and
garbage
bags
and
assembled
them
into
kits,
and
then
those
kids
are
distributed
to
housing,
first,
agencies
to
community
health
and
resource
centers
to
rooming
houses
to
supportive
and
affordable
housing
providers.
So
that's
what
we're
doing
at
housing
services
I
can
also
provide
a
little
bit
of
context
around
for
Ontario
work,
so
the
employment
and
social
services
they
also
provide
some
supports
with
funding
for
those
same
set
of
supplies.
B
I
B
I
B
T
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
That
was
a
very
good
presentation
and
I.
Just
really
it
was
I
know
people
think
it's
a
long
day,
but
it's
very
important
for
us
to
listen
to
the
needs
of
our
community
citywide,
and
it
was
really
an
eye-opener
to
see
and
hear
from
most
of
those
agency
before
I
start.
My
question
I
want
to
thank
all
the
delegation
today
that
they
came
up
and
spoke
about
their
issues
and
the
challenges
they
have
day
after
day
serving
our
resident
in
city
of
Arwa.
T
I
want
to
give
my
question
and
I
know:
I'm
gonna
go
back
and
circle
to
one
issue
that
really
close
to
my
heart
and
to
my
community
and
I'm
gonna
talk
a
little
bit
about
paramedics
and
I
want
to
ask
through
you,
madam
chair,
ask
chief
Demonte
and
probably
chief
Cassidy
about
a
few
questions
throughout
the
process.
I
know:
we've
been
working
in
the
last
few
years
to
to
bring
back
the
number
and
respond
time
that
we
we
do
deserve
in
the
City
of
Ottawa.
T
I
just
want
to
see
that
what
the
new
investment
we're
making,
what
the
14
and
I
know.
In
the
last
few
years
we
had
24
and
12
I,
know
and
I'm
congratulation
now
you're
catch.
You
are
catching
actually
and
hearing
your
75%,
our
eight-minute
percenter,
but
what
this
is
going
to
really
do
to
the
rural
resident
and
what
we
could
expect
to
see
in
the
next
year.
I
know
that
the
process
is
long
and
I
know
that
when
we
hire
12
paramedic,
it's
not,
we
can
hire
them
today
and
then
they'll
be
starting
tomorrow.
T
O
Chair
on
the
in
essence
and
I
think
mention
this
term
the
we're
getting
back
on
track.
So
we
have
gotten
back
on
track
with
the
investment
that
the
council,
when
this
committee
is
done,
we
are
now
meeting
our
targets.
The
analysis
now
that's
been
done.
Is
we
continue
to
project?
We
look
at
a
historic
growth.
We've
continued
to
project
that
and
the
additional
14
we're
we're
quite
confident.
Olmi
will
maintain
that
response
time
target
with
the
additional
14.
O
So
certainly
that's
what
you'll
see
if
the
additional
14
are
hired,
you're,
correct
and
I
mentioned
it
earlier.
I
think
it
was
an
in
response
to
one
of
your
colleagues
in
French.
However,
so
we
we
wait
for
the
graduation
of
the
colleges
because
they
come
through
the
three-year
program
as
graduate
paramedics,
we'll
hire
them
in
June
and
then
they'll
go
through.
What's
called
our
intake
process,
our
preceptor
process,
where
they'll
be
integrated
into
the
city,
its
policies
as
procedures
are
operating
our
functioning
and
then
they'll
be
released
into
the
community
to
serve
the
community.
O
As
of
July,
operationally
I'm
going
to
turn
over
to
chief
kasi
to
tell
you
how
and
we've
had
these
discussions
about
the
urban
core
and
now
as
we're
covering
that.
Certainly
the
I
know,
what's
near
and
dear
to
your
heart,
councilor
and
the
rural
councillors,
how
it's
going
to
impact
positively
the
results
in
in
the
rural
communities.
P
Thank
you
through
your
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
for
the
question.
It
is
a.
It
is
a
balancing
assessment
that
that
it
gets
done
to
to
assign
and
deploy
the
the
resources
that
are
available
at
any
given
time
and
any
addition
to
those
resources,
given
a
stable
call
volume
at
any
given
point
is
going
to
increase
our
coverage
capabilities
so
well.
We
maintain
our
priority
post
listing
and
we
fill
that
priority
post
listing
the
more
resources
that
are
available
at
any
given
time
can
fill
up
that
priority
post
list
higher.
P
There
are
other
aspects
that
we're
continuing
to
look
at
and
that
we've
looked
at
over
the
last
couple
of
months
regarding
the
the
ratio
of
transport
vehicles
and
PR
use
the
single
paramedic
units
and
we're
undertaking
a
there's,
a
couple
things
that
need
to
happen
to
get
this
this
process
underway.
One
is
a
change
in
provincial
policy
to
allow
PR
use
to
attend
calls
as
single
units.
Right
now
we
send
if
we
send
a
Pru,
we
also
send
a
transport
vehicle
at
the
same
time
that
can
utilize
two
resources
when
one
would
do
so.
P
We're
chasing
that
that
policy
change
with
the
ministry,
regardless
of
that
the
ratio
of
our
transport
to
PR
use
is,
is
under
review
right
now
and
so
within
the
the
current
and
the
in
the
2018
funding
envelope,
we'll
be
looking
at
maximizing
those
resources
through
that
ratio
change
so
to
circle.
Back
to
your
question,
counselor
I'd
like
to
just
say
that
the
investment
in
in
paramedics
and
in
the
the
resources
can
only
benefit
the
performance
of
the
system.
T
Thank
You
chief,
so
I'm
really
happy
to
hear
this
positive
news,
because
you
know
madam
chair,
under
your
leadership.
This
in
this
term
and
I,
want
to
also
thank
mr.
de
Monte
for
yourself
consolation
theory
and
the
mayor's
office
for
working
with
us.
I
know
you
recall
the
issue
that
we
start
having
in
2015
and
you
listen.
T
You
listen
to
our
resident
in
the
city
and
you
worked
very
hard
with
our
general
manager
and
you
work
also
with
the
chief
at
that
time,
and
you
work
with
the
council
that
been
impacted
and
the
respond
time
at
the
inner
city
should
be
really
reflecting
on
the
people.
Life
in
the
City
of
Ottawa
I
can't
believe
an
investment
50%
from
the
city
and
50%
from
the
province,
and
we
stopped.
We
have
a
lacking
of
hiring
and
we
decided
that
we
need
to
freeze
back
in
the
years.
T
I
I
will
never
making
sure
in
every
budget
as
long
I'm
a
councillor
that
will
never
accept
a
year
that
we
will
not
look
at
the
growth
at
the
city
and
hiring
paramedic
to
making
sure
to
achieve
our
number
like.
If
you
look
at
the
fire
and
paramedic,
we
invest
100
percent
on
both
services,
which
is
core
service
and
paramedic
that
will
receive
50
percent.
We
lack
and
we
put
our
life
of
our
resident
dangerous
because
it's
very
important
transporting
that
patient
from
point
A
to
point
B
to
the
hospital.
T
The
first
10
15
minutes
are
critical
in
any
incident,
heart
attack
or
or
stroke
so
I'm
very
happy
to
see
them.
Investment
and
I
want
to
thank
the
chair
and
all
of
you
for
working
with
us
who
making
sure
this
will
never
happen
again
and
I,
don't
see
any
time
that
the
city
of
ara
will
play
catch-up
in
any
services
specifically
and
core
services.
So
thank
you
for
that.
My
second
question
will
probably
Thank
You
chief.
My
second
question,
madam
chair,
will
probably
direct
it
to
our
parks
and
recs
general
manager.
Mr.
T
Cheney
I
know
you've
been
actively
working
hard,
whether
challenging
and
I
know
you're.
You
have
lots
of
Park
in
a
city,
far
away
need
to
be
rebuilt
and
constructed,
and
how
do
you
see?
I,
look
at
the
budget
line
and
all
the
project
that
you
are
trying
to
get
for
next
year.
Are
you
confident
that
you're
going
to
be
able
I
know
there
is
some
project
has
been
little
bit
back
behind?
Q
Q
T
Q
K
Few
questions
first
on
social
services
and
I'm,
just
looking
at
page
87
of
the
budget
documents
and
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
the
implications
of
some
of
these
numbers.
So
my
first
question
is
just
looking
at
the
municipal
portion
of
the
spending
on
social
services.
Is
it
correct
to
characterize
the
municipal
portion
as
meaning
that
the
draft
budget
proposes
that
we
would
spend
4.7
million
dollars
less
on
social
services
in
2018
than
we
did
in
2017?.
N
K
K
K
H
Off
the
top
of
my
head:
no,
but
you
approved
us
terminal
council
priorities
and
that
would
have
included
the
5.2
million
in
2018
and
it
would
have
been
allocated
to
a
number
of
projects
across
the
entire
city.
So
I
will,
if
you
want
counselor,
I,
can
dig
up
the
your
term
of
council
priorities
in
the
spreadsheet
that
was
included
with
it,
which
shows
where
the
allocation
is
in
each
of
the
years.
That.
Q
I
think
I
have
it
counselor.
So
what
you're?
What
you're
seeing
there
I
believe
it
is
that,
and
this
is
in
the
GM
section
of
the
budget,
which
is
generally
the
collect
all
for
all
the
grants
external
grants
that
we
get
provincial
federal,
what
whatever
they
might
be,
and,
of
course
those
are
always
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
based
on
what
we
got
the
year
before.
By
and
large,
they
are
an
in-and-out
type
of
transaction
because
for
the
most
part
for
every
dollar
we
get
we
have
to
spend
on
a
very
specific
project.
Q
Some
of
them
are,
for
example,
provincial
programs
for
special
needs
to
integrate
children
into
programming.
Those
kinds
of
there
is
a
large
Healthy
Kids
grant
that
comes
in
as
part
of
that
that
wasn't
anticipated.
So
by
and
large,
those
are
a
a
best-guess
from
year
to
year,
in
terms
of
how
many,
how
much
in
terms
of
grants
will
come
in
okay.
K
I
I
see
the
additional
money
that
we
got
from
the
province
and
the
feds
on
page
103
for
community
recreation
and
cultural
programs.
But
if
the
1.3
million
that
I'm
speaking
of
on
page
a
hundred,
it
was
flow
through
money
from
the
province
for
the
feds.
Why
wouldn't
it
be
listed
under
revenue
by
the
federal
or
provincial
government
in
the
lines
above
fees
and
services.
Q
H
K
K
Additional
monies
from
the
province
and
the
federal
government
for
community
recreation
and
cultural
programs
and
I
just
wasn't
sure,
was
that
additional
2017
money
that
we
got
from
the
province
and
the
feds
this
year
or
I'm
just
curious.
If
you
know
what
accounts
for
almost
doubling
of
the
provincial
money
and
doubling
of
the
federal
money
again.
Q
K
N
Madam
chair,
we
do
have
space
in
our
social
service
centers,
where
we
provide
employment
services
and
we
do
invite
agencies
to
come
in
and
provide
services
to
our
clients
and
also
to
bring
their
clients
as
clients
in.
We
are
in
the
process
of
reviewing
that
at
this
point
and
I
would
want
to
check
back
with
the
director
of
communal
services
to
see
if
there's
anything,
that's
been
planned
around
community
hubs,
and
it
is
an
interest
of
ours
as
well.
Great.
K
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
finish
with
two
items.
The
first
is
the
issue
of
the
hotel
tax,
which
came
up
I.
Think
council
I
had
some
questions
about
it
and
I
think
the
treasurer
remarked
that
in
that
draft
recommendation,
that's
before
council
next
week.
The
advice
from
staff
is
that
we
set
the
revenues
that
we
give
to
Ottawa
tourism,
the
level
that
they
received
through
a
3%
levy
in
2017,
and
it
just
strikes
me
as
a
little
bit
odd
to
do
it.
That
way.
K
Let's
assume-
and
hopefully
this
won't
happen,
but
if
there
were
ever
a
situation
if
we
set
that
as
the
benchmark
and
in
a
future
year
at
4%,
we
don't
achieve
the
amount
that
we
achieved.
A
3%
in
2017.
Aren't
we
setting
ourselves
up
for
potential
deficit
and,
if
that's
the
contractual
agreement,
where
would
that
delta
come
from
so.
H
First
of
all,
it's
not
staffs
recommendation.
It's
in
the
regulation
that
the
province
passed
last
week,
which
says
you
have
to
if
you
have
a
voluntary
Hotel
tax
now
once
there
is
a
mandatory
whole
hotel
tax,
you
have
to
ensure
that
the
tourism
entity
that
was
receiving
those
funds
which
in
this
case
is
Ottawa
tourism,
receive
the
equivalent
of
what
they
received
in
2017.
H
So
the
first
thing
you
have
to
do
is
make
them
whole,
but
there
is
no
obligation
if
the
funds,
actually,
if
we
because
2017
was
our
high-water
mark.
If
we
do
not
generate
that
in
2018
with
the
4%
and
everybody
participating.
If
we
don't
generate
it,
there's
no
obligation
on
the
city
to
make
them
whole
and
does.
K
The
regulation
also
allow
municipalities
to
determine,
for
instance,
if
and
I
think
you
answered
this
question,
but
I
just
want
to
be
certain.
So
if,
if
we
set
the
tax
of
four
percent,
do
we
have
the
discretion
to
say
we're
gonna
give
Ottawa
tourism
3%,
let's
assume
that
we
match
or
let's,
let's
assume,
either
that
the
3%
meets
that
target
or
we
defer
it
to
2019
so
that
we
have
a
lower
benchmark.
H
So
your
first
obligation
is
to
keep
them
whole
on
a
dollar
amount.
So
if
we
raise
ten
million,
they
receive
ten
million
for
that
in
2017.
That's
what
they
have
to
receive
in
2018.
We
don't
know
what
this
will
generate.
So
once
you
get
past
keeping
them
whole,
then
the
discussion
becomes
what
happens
with
the
residual.
We
would
be
coming
back
to
Council
to
discuss
the
allocation
of
any
residual
in
the
future,
but
at
this
point
in
time,
I
can't
even
tell
you
what
that
potentially
could
be.
We
do
sit
right
now.
H
The
mayor
and
the
director
of
Economic
Development
sit
on
the
board
of
Ottawa
tourism,
so
they
do
have
an
ability
to
influence
what
Ottawa
tourism
spends
the
money
on,
but
ultimately
the
City
Council
other
than
once
you
get
past.
The
hundred
percent
of
what
they
received
in
2017
doesn't
have
an
ability
to
influence
what
they
spend
that
money
on
council.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
and
I
too,
want
to
start
off
by
thanking
all
the
delegations
that
came
today
to
present
to
us
some
very
valid
points
and
some
good
discussion
points
in
terms
of
where
they
feel
that
some
of
the
funding
may
be
lagging
or
may
need
improvements.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions:
first,
starting
with
the
social
housing
and
stuff
to
miss
Parral,
miss
Burrell
in
terms
of
the
money
that
we're
obligated
to
fund
as
a
municipality
for
social
programming,
you
mentioned
or
I.
F
F
F
N
It's
not
a
specific,
madam
chair:
it's
not
a
specific
amount.
Every
year
they
do
a
review
of
the
of
a
series
of
indices
based
on.
What's
happened
the
previous
year
around
changes
around
insurance,
utility
water
costs,
all
of
those
things
and
based
on
that
they
come
up
with
a
percentage
of
increase.
So
it's
not
as
flat
2%
or
anything
like
that,
and
those
indices
are
passed
down
by
the
provincial
government
to
the
City
of
Ottawa
and
they
say:
thou
shalt
pay
social
housing
providers
this
this
number
of
funding
related
to
those
5
or
6
indices.
N
So
in
this
case,
if
there
is
a
requirement
for
the
city
to
add
1.7
million
dollars
for
social
housing
providers
and
as
Shelley
pointed
out
earlier
a
number
of
years
ago,
it
was
up
to
12
million
dollars
so
from
one
year
to
the
next,
it's
difficult
to
know
what
those
indices
are
going
to
to
be,
and
it
is
legislated
under
the
Housing,
Services
Act.
So.
F
N
N
F
You
and
I've
got
a
question
for
Shelley
in
terms
of
the
you
mentioned
and
I.
Think
some
of
my
colleagues
already
questioned
you
on
the
four
million
dollars
that
you
know
you
transferred
from
opera
l
from
capital
to
operating
to
questions
on
that.
First
of
all,
are
you
or
is
the
Department
allowed
to
transfer
money
between
operating
capital
because
usually
an
accounting
processes?
Both
accounts
should
be
somewhat
separate.
N
So
the
the
four
million
dollars
came
out
of
the
city,
100%
housing
and
homelessness
and
that
initiative,
so
that
was
the
14
million
dollars
that
was
approved
back
in
2012,
and
the
decision
was
made
at
committee
to
move
the
4
million
dollars
from
capital
over
to
operating.
To
offset
that
that
pressure.
Madam
chair
I,
would
just
also
like
to
add
to
what
shelf
Shelley's
mentioned
earlier
that
since
that
time,
there
was
an
additional
2
million
dollars
brought
in
in
2015.
F
F
Q
Chair
chair,
the
the
the
fun
we're
talking
about
is
roughly
fifteen
million
for
buildings
and
another
five
million
for
parks.
All
of
the
city
assets
are
part
of
our
comprehensive
asset
management
system
that
is
run
by
mr.
Gontier
by
the
the
infrastructure
department.
We
work
with
them
and
they
rate
and
evaluate
every
asset
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
generally
based
on
the
the
evaluation
system
that
they
have.
They
recommend
and
what
you
see
in
this
book
is
essentially
the
highest
need
items
in
each
of
the
categories
that
they
are
recommending.
We
addressed
this
year
and.
Q
Chair
there
are
assets
that
are
being
reviewed
for
for
decommissioning
or
or
to
to
look
at
either
disposing
of.
We
are,
as
as
we've
advised
council
looking
at
a
plan
to
look
at
all
of
our
arenas,
for
example,
and
rationalize
them,
and
and
look
at
some
of
the
aging
inventory
to
see
if
they
can
either
be
repurposed
or
replaced,
and
so
yes,
there
are.
There
are
buildings
that
are
approaching
end-of-life
on
the
list
and
have
been
identified
as
such
with
you
know,
a
high
needs
and
and
a
need
for
a
future
plan.
F
Q
F
Thank
you
for
that,
mr.
shinny
and
my
final
question
is
back
to
or
to
the
general
manager
mr.
de
Monte,
mr.
Davonte,
in
terms
of
the
presentation
that
mr.
Roger
made
about
the
need
for
by
law
officers
going
forward
or
services
that
they
would
be
providing
next
year,
especially
with
the
introduction
of
legalized
marijuana
in
terms
of
the
smoking
part
of
it.
If
it's
a
medicinal
use
of
a
marijuana
of
item,
how
are
we
going
to
enforce
that
in
terms
of
within
our
smoking
bottle?
Chair.
O
That
is
still
up
for
debate.
The
the
government
of
Ontario
as
they're
reviewing
multiple
legislations
as
they
as
it
impacts.
The
the
in
the
intake
of
marijuana
now
is,
as
a
product
that'll
be
legally
available
in
Ontario.
That
also,
as
a
question
is
being
asked,
and
we
met
with
representatives
of
three
ministries
and
they
kind
of
gave
us
an
overview
of
what
they're
starting
to
look
at
and
the
smoke-free
Ontario
Act
may
see
some
modifications
but
I'll.
Let
director
Chapman
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
more
about
what
they
kind
of
hinted
towards.
O
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
That's
exactly
it
I
mean
it's
again.
It's
a
moving
target,
we're
not
we're
not
sure
what
what's
gonna
happen
come
the
new
year.
What
I
can
tell
you
is
that
we
are
working
with
the
province
and
ongoing
communication,
and
there
is
some
discussion
with
mostly
with
the
the
health
units,
but
in
our
case,
where
we
do,
the
enforcement
of
smoke-free
Ontario
we've
been
included
in
those
discussions
and
it's
about
how
we're
gonna
regulate.
So
my
understanding
is
that
some
amendments
will
be
done
to
smoke-free
Ontario
to
include
marijuana.
F
D
That's
so
through
your
mom
chair,
we
are,
as
you
know,
we
we
under
underwent
a
service
review
through
a
consultant
KPMG
this
past
summer
and
we
continued
to
analyze.
The
report
that's
been
provided
to
us
by
our
consultant.
We
are
coming
with
a
staff
report
on
our
service
review
in
q1
next
year,
so
we're
not
sure
yet,
where,
where
that'll
land
we're
just
still
in
the
review
stage,
thank.
R
S
S
And
for
waiting
the
fees
and
contingencies,
Shelley
gave
a
list
earlier
of
all
the
capital
projects
we
had
in
2017
and
the
ones
that
are
planned
in
2018.
If
it's
only
a
certain
amount
of
money
or
the
number
of
units,
it
should
be
enough
to
be
clear.
You
know,
because
my
colleague
Michael
earlier
och
threw
renewed
mortgages.
Everything
we
can
do
with
this
is
reinvest
in
our
property,
we're
not
reinvesting,
so
this
does
not
create
any
new
units.
It
just
allows
us
to
maintain
our
current
stock.
I.
Just
wanted
this
to
be
clear
for
everybody.
S
S
S
Where
there
are
problems
quite
right
and
Carling
too
I
think
is
it
in
good
state
and
the
third
one
is
O'conner
a
women's
shelter.
It
needs
a
lot
of
work,
but
as
for
the
investments,
I
don't
have
the
details
on
what
is
required
if
it's
the
roof,
the
windows
I
don't
have
any
information,
but
we
have
an
audit
plan
asset
management
plan
for
this.
Could
you
share
that
with
the
committee?
Yes,.
S
101,
public
art
policy,
renewal
I
think
it's
important
to
have
it
that's
right,
but
where
will
the
funds
come
back
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars?
It
says
that
it
will
come
from
new
developments,
but
I
don't
understand.
It
seems
strange
unless
I'm
mistaken
it
should
come.
It
should
come
from
operations
because
the
funds
are
coming
from
development.
Is
the
one
percent
of
development
I,
don't
think
we
should
use
this
1%
to
to
develop
our
plan,
it's
kind
of
stealing
from
our
arts
sector.
Well,
madam
chair,
it's
nothing
news.
S
There
were
more
eligible
projects
for
the
1%
and
that
created
an
increase
in
the
number
of
projects,
and
that
will
also
require
more
work
to
be
done
and
more
compensation
so
with
the
net
zero
sum
that
shows
that
there
is
more
activities
in
the
arts
program
just
like
it
was
for
projects
before
page
121.
There's
various
improvements,
parks
improvements,
one
is
parking
lot
asphalt,
I,
don't
understand
a
hundred
and
forty
five
thousand
dollars.
Why
would
Park
and
Recreation
pay
for
parking
lots?
I,
think
it
should
be
the
parking
reservoir
and
not
parks
and
recreations?
S
It's
part
of
the
comprehensive
asset
management.
The
parking
lots
around
our
facilities
are
included
in
this
projects.
From
what
I
know,
I'm,
not
an
expert.
The
parking
area
in
parks
and
recreation
facilities
are
not
covered
by
the
parking
reserve
fund.
I'm,
not
an
expert,
but
usually
the
repairs
or
replacement,
are
funded
through
the
comprehensive
asset
management
plan.
R
Your
we
have
a
huge
parking
reserved
fund
and
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
redo
our
parking
lots
in
parks.
You
shouldn't
undercut
those
efforts.
We
should
focus
on
the
asset
management
plan.
We
could
do
for
our
parks,
building
and
others
which
already
have
a
backlog
and
actually
fund
the
parking
lots
with
the
parking
lot
dollars.
So
maybe-
and
you
can
clarify
why
we
are
not
using
those
funds.
H
I
harken
back
to
the
time
I
tried
to
use
the
parking
reserved
to
pay
for
the
parking
lot
at
Landsdowne
and
was
told
no
you're
not
able
to
use
the
parking
reserved
for
any
thing
other
than
on-street
and
off-street
parking
that
contribute
in
the
areas
where
the
bia
s
where
most
of
this
revenue
is
generated
from.
So
this
is
a
part
of
the
parking
management
strategy
that
was
adopted
back
in
2008
I.
H
R
Q
Chair
there
are
a
couple
of
instances
here
too,
to
explain.
Most
of
our
fee
schedule
is
that
two
percent-
and
that
is,
as
per
the
council
directive,
there
are
two
two
or
three
notable
examples.
One
of
them
is
arena.
Ice
rentals
that
are
at
five
point
six
percent:
that
higher
amount
is
the
third
year
of
a
three-year
plan
that
council
approved
three
years
ago
to
bring
arena
ice
rental
rates
back
to
the
level
of
subsidy,
both
for
minors
and
adults
that
they
were
prior
to
the
four
year.
Q
The
three-year
five
point,
six
percent
increase:
will
this
year
bring
it
back
to
where
it
would
have
been
had
we
just
put
inflation
on
those
those
fees
in
every
year
since
they
were
frozen?
So
that's
the
explanation
for
the
five
point.
Six,
it's
the
last
year
next
year,
you
would
see
arena
fees
increased
to
two
to
a
similar
level
to
all
of
our
other
fees.
Q
But
when
we
do
we
round
it
out
to
the
next
25
cents
and
that's
mostly
from
a
cash
handling,
petty
cash
management
perspective
that
we
like
to
to
keep
things
in
in
increments
of
25.
So
this
is
one
of
those
years
where
we're
increasing
it.
It
looks
like
a
lot,
but
generally
it's
a
quarter
that
we're
talking
about
and.
R
I
can
respect
that
I
just
I
guess.
My
point
is
that
the
blanket
freeze
was
a
good
theory.
Now
the
blanket
unfreeze
in
my
mind,
creates
other
sets
of
challenges,
so
I
think
the
summer
caps,
the
public
swims,
the
public
and
some
of
our
learn
to
program
should
flatten
out
as
soon
as
we
can.
My
last
question
is
in
relations
to
part
of
your
portfolio
is
also
the
building
management.
I.
Think
the
program
is
the
beam
group.
Q
Yes,
the
beam
group
has
been
fortunate
to
benefit
from
a
million
dollars
a
year
in
funding
for
energy
retrofits,
and
that
has
been
over
the
last
three
years.
We
have
committed
all
but
two
I
believe
it's
somewhere
in
the
area
of
$200,000
to
date
of
the
money
allocated
to
that,
and
it
has
been
things
like.
T
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I.
Just
have
one
question:
we
were,
I
heard
from
councilor
caucasian
a
councillor
Brockington
talking
about
the
refugee
and
the
impact
that
they
are
making
in
our
community,
and
I
think
we
talked
about
that
last
year,
when
we
were
talking
about
the
one-year
mark.
My
my
question
is
to
staff.
Are
we
are
we
looking
when
we
are
reviewing
the
process
and
talking
to
these
agencies?
So
can
we
know
that
how
many
agency
are
impacted
by
the
refugee
demand
that
we
have
in
our
community
like?
T
Are
we
keeping
track
with
those
numbers
to
be
able,
when
we
sit
with
our
counterpart
or
the
federal
government,
to
talk
about
the
cost
and
and
the
prices
that
we
are
paying
for
some
other
agency
that
really
taken
from
other
agency
like
we're,
putting
a
pressure?
Basically
on
our
agency,
that
we
already
serving
our
community?
And
now
we
have
extra
pressure
and
the
first
door
is
it's
the
municipality
and
us
so
I
just
need
to
know
like?
T
N
So,
madam
chair,
first
of
all,
in
terms
of
social
assistance,
we
know
that
approximately
70%
of
the
families
did
apply
for
social
assistance
after
the
first
year.
All
social
assistance
benefits
are
provided
by
the
provincial
government
as
and
those
services
include
employment
services
and
some
discretionary
benefits.
So
that's
from
the
perspective
of
the
services
that
the
City
of
Ottawa
provides
in
terms
of
the
other,
the
the
other
agencies
all
turn
it
over
to
Clara
in
terms
of
knowing
whether
or
not
we
have
a
sense
of
the
capacity
and
the
pressure.
Thank
you.
A
Madam
chair,
to
our
knowledge,
there
has
not
been
a
financial
accounting
of
impact.
What
we
have
heard
around
the
refuge's
six
one
three
table
is
how
agencies
have
come
together:
they've
leveraged
each
other's
resources,
they've
leveraged
community
resources,
they've
leveraged
funding
from
other
levels
of
government
to
adequately
respond
to
the
needs
of
refugees.
Of
course,
there
are
pressures
that
they're
continuing
to
face,
and
we
hear
about
them.
A
T
You
but
I
still
think
we
need
to
proactively
find
the
financial
pressure
of
the
dollar
so
we'll
be
able
when
we
talk
to
our
federal
partner
or
some
other
level
of
government
to
be
able
to
get
help,
because
basically,
the
community
and
the
agency
that
you
and
I
were
talking
about
there.
They
are
paying
the
price
and
the
pressure
from
other
committees,
so
they're
taking
basically
they're
serving
the
refugees
I'm,
also
serving
some
other
resident
community
and
we're
putting
pressure
on
both
of
them.
I
think
through
the
process.
T
A
I
Thank
You
chair
mr.
Shen
ei
for
the
wreck,
complex
and
River
sites
out,
there's
4.5
million
dollars
there
and
the
2.9
for
the
detailed
design.
So
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
that's
the
the
money
is
for
the
land
transaction
and
then
the
money
that's
going
to
come
back
from
the
local
developer
there
to
help
with
the
detailed
design.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
Q
I
I
I
Q
I
Q
Chair
the
the
counselor
is
talking
about
the
museum,
the
accession
policy
that
we
are
working
on
and
the
process
I
just
a
week
ago
was
presented
with
the
final.
What
looks
like
is
going
to
be
the
final
draft
of
this
policy.
We
will
be
moving
to
public
consultation
in
the
new
year
and
and
so
yes,
we're
very
close,
and
we
will
have
a
report
before
council
in
the
first
half
of
next
year.
Okay,.
I
I
With
regards
to
one
of
the
delegations,
Ottawa
festivals,
we've
heard
about
the
2017
hangover
effect
and
Carolyn
I
think
what
she
was
here
mentioned
that
she's
working
closely
with
you
and
Parks
and
Rec
so
well.
How?
How
are
you
contributing
or
assisting
those
organizations
to
to
ensure
a
smooth
succession
for
them
in
2018,
with
some
of
their
events
and
the
success
of
those
events
in
attracting
the
numbers
that
they'd
like
to
see
for
their
festivals.
Q
Chair
most
of
the
festivals
that
well
certainly
a
good
number
of
the
festivals
that
Caroline
represents,
do
receive
funding
through
the
through
our
cultural
funding
program.
Festival
funding
is
about
1.6
million
dollars
a
year.
It's
in
this
budget,
as
well
as
the
3%
increase
to
do
to
that
base,
including
the
provision
for
minimum
wage,
which
we
believe
will
impact
festivals,
because
they
of
course,
have
a
lot
of
workers
that
that
that
are
in
that
category.
Q
So
we
will
be
working
with
them
in
terms
of
the
plans
they
have
for
this
year.
Of
course,
the
they
did
benefit
from
the
additional
influx
of
funding
last
year
from
the
2017
office
that
won't
be
available
this
year,
and-
and
so
we
will
do
what
we
can
within
the
existing
resources
supported
and
to
make
sure
that
the
funds
that
are
available
go
to
the
to
the
events
that
are
going
to
give
the
best
results.
That's
done
through
the
the
arm-length
jury
process.
C
I
C
P
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
chair
question.
For
mr.
Xiang
yay
under
recreation,
cultural
facility
services
operating
resource
requirement
alysus.
So
under
the
revenue
I
see
that
last
year
we
had
a
deficit
of
well.
We
brought
in
4.5
million
dollars
less
than
we
budgeted
for
and
this
year
it
looks
like
we're
budgeting
for
the
same
amount
that
we
budgeted
for
last
year.
So
I'm
just
wondering
what
ideas
you
have
to
try
to
make
up
that
difference
this
year
could.
Q
C
P
C
Councillor
Shirley
there's
no
one.
Other
people
knew
questioningly,
so
I
just
have
one
follow-up
question
for
you,
mr.
Demonte,
and
with
regards
to
a
question
that
was
asked
about
the
paramedic,
the
14
paramedics
in
2018
and
I
thought
I
heard
just
say
that
we
would
pay
a
hundred
percent
of
the
cost
because
we
were
out
of
sync
with
the
provincial
funding
stream.
So
I
guess
just
a
couple
questions
about
that.
One
is:
can
we
get
in
sync
with
the
provincial
funding
stream
if
we
were
to
move
that
date
in
some
direction
or
if
we
can't?
O
The
province
has
been
using
this
model
for
some
time
now.
Anna
and
I
I,
don't
remember
exactly
when
it
started.
That
is
the
model
the
the
municipality
makes
its
investment.
Then
we
provide
the
actuals
to
the
province
and
then
in
our
next
year
funding
they
they
adjust
their
funding
to
the
municipality.
So
they're,
not
that
I'm,
aware
of
there's
any
way
to
recoup
it.
That's
that's
the
model
that's
used
across
the
province,
so.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
returning
to
this
question
of
the
on-ramp
funding,
and
just
so
that
there's
greater
precision
on
what
councilor
gly
had
requested
of
staff
I
just
want
to
read
out
a
direction
to
staff
which
I've
checked
with
councilor
egg
Lyon.
He
agrees
is
in
the
spirit
of
what
he
was
intending
with
his
direction.
So
I'll
just
read
it
out
and
pass
it
to
staff
in
writing
so
that
staff
be
directed
to
identify
potential
sources
of
funding
from
within
the
community
and
Protective
Services
Committee
budget.
K
That
could
be
reallocated
to
allow
the
city
to
take
advantage
of
the
social
planning
councils
offer
of
matching
funding
and
that
options
be
provided
to
council
prior
to
its
consideration
of
the
2018
draft
budget.
So
there
are
the
ideas
building
on
councilor
Allies
direction.
If,
indeed,
there
is
a
mechanism
by
which
we
can
take
advantage
of
the
social
planning
councils
generous
offer.
I
think
it
would
be
important
to
understand
where
that
money
could
conceivably
come
from.
K
We'll
ask
the
CPS
portfolio
to
identify
$100,000
as
a
minimum
which,
by
the
way
I
calculated,
is
less
than
0.001
percent
of
the
CPS
budget.
So
it
shouldn't
be
too
too
hard,
but
it
would
be
great
for
council
to
see
those
options
and
to
be
able
to
make
decision
next
Wednesday
on
whether
it
wants
to
move
ahead
on
with
an
on-ramp
funding
program
for
2018.
Thank
you.
C
Okay,
Thank
You
counselor
Nussbaum
we're
now
going
to
get
to
the
road
map.
So,
as
you
know,
I
have
declared
a
conflict
and
council
brockington
was
going
to
take
the
chair,
but
he
has
a
conflict
of
his
own.
He
had
to
go
pick
up
his
kids,
so
counselor
news
bomb
is
going
to
take
the
chair
and
deal
with
items
to
C
and
5a
first
and
then
and
I
know.
Counselor
caucus
has
a
question
and
then
I
will
return
to
the
chair
will
go
through
the
rest
of
the.
C
K
I
We
won't
take
a
picture
and
send
it
to
the
mayor.
My
question
was
with
regards
to
the
recent
announcement
I
think
was
in
October
or
November.
How
does
that
sort
of
flow
in
how
do
those
dollars
flow
into
the
budget,
because
I
know
we
were
sort
of
done
and
how
does
that
impact
the
spaces?
The
childcare
spaces
next
year.
N
K
O
To
their
preferred
providers
list,
and
they
have
the
ability
to
find
childcare
right
now
and
the
other
500
children
that
are
0
to
6
on
the
wait
list
are
going
to
be
assessed
by
the
end
of
the
year
for
eligibility
and
added
to
their
list
as
well,
and
then
the
2018
funding.
We
are
still
waiting
on
the
details
from
the
province
around
what
that
can
be
used
for.
Okay,.
I
I
I
I
C
C
C
C
We're
going
to
approve
everything
except
D,
1
and
F
1,
because
counselor
surely
has
a
conflict
on
those
one,
so
he'll
leave
the
table
for
the
rest
of
it.
So
can
we
approve
the
community
and
social
services
budget
carried
okay
and
then
counselors?
Really,
if
you
want
to
leave
the
table,
we
can
we
approve
D,
1
and
F
1
carried
carried.
C
Thank
you
moving
on
then
to
item
number
3,
recreation,
cultural
and
cultural
and
facility
services
budget,
a
through
E
carried
okay
item
number,
four
public
works,
department,
parks,
operating
resource
requirement,
ok,
page
65
carried
and
then
the
community
and
Protective
Services
Committee
capital
budget.
That
has
not
already
been
carried
carried,
and
that's
it.
Thank
you
all
very
much
so.
Can
we
carry
the
cps
budget
in
its
entirety
carried?
Thank
you,
okay!