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From YouTube: Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee / Court of Revision - July 4, 2019 - Part 1 of 2
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Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
Beginning of Court of Revision : https://youtu.be/Ldu-iiP5FzI?t=2449
Part 2 of this meeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLv766eCoME
A
A
B
A
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
copper
hands
of
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
item
1
2
3
on
today's
agenda
for
the
items
just
mentioned.
Only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendment
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
Appeal
Tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
have
peeled
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
Appeal
Tribunal,
if
counsel,
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
hundred
fifty
days.
A
Item
number
1
zoning
bylaw
amendment
part
of
45:28,
would
killed
in
Road
and
West
Carlton
March
Ward
5.
The
agricultural
affairs
committee
recommend
council
approve
an
amendment
to
zoning
bylaw
to
0
0
8
2,
5,
0
4
part
of
45:28.
What
Colton
wrote
for
the
purpose
of
rezoning,
a
portion
of
the
lands
from
agricultural
zone
sub
zone
to
AG
to
to
agriculture
zone
sub
zones
787
to
prohibit
residential
use
on
the
retaining
farmland
as
detail
and
document
to
item
number
two.
There
cultural
affair
committee
approved
the
consultation
details
section
of
this
report.
A
A
It's
the
same
that
agricultural
committee
recommend
council
approve
an
amendment
to
zone
bylaw
to
0
0
8
2
5,
0
4
part
of
3194
Donnelly
drive
for
the
purpose
of
rezoning,
the
land
from
agricultural
subs
on
to
AG
2,
to
agricultural
subs,
on
6a
g
6,
to
prohibit
residential
users
on
a
retaining
farmland,
as
detailed
in
document
to
item
number
2.
The
agricultural
affair
can
merely
approve
the
consultation
details
section
of
this
report.
C
You
mr.
chair,
it's
a
technical
amendment
to
replace
the
location
map
in
document
1,
whereas
the
report
for
zoning
bylaw
amendment
part
of
3194,
Donnelly
Drive,
has
been
prepared
to
fulfill
a
condition
of
severance
approval
imposed
by
the
committee
of
adjustment
and
whereas
the
location
map
provided
in
document
1
of
the
report
did
not
Li
in
the
correct
location
to
be
rezone,
as
described
in
the
report.
C
Therefore
be
it
resolved
that
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee
recommend
to
council
to
replace
the
map
and
document
1
with
the
attached
corrected
location
map
and
be
it
further
resolved
that,
pursuant
to
the
Planning
Act
subsection,
34,
17,
no
further
notice
be
given
and
there's
a
map
attached
to
the
motion
as
well.
Okay,.
A
A
The
agricultural
affair
committee
recommend
council
approve
an
amendment
through
zoning
bylaw
to
0
0,
8,
2,
5,
0,
4,
part
of
the
1365
Galera
side
row
for
the
purpose
of
rezoning,
a
portion
of
the
land
from
agricultural
zone,
sub
zone,
3,
AG
3
to
agriculture
zone
sub-zone
787
to
prohibit
residential
uses
on
the
retaining
farmland,
as
detailed
in
document
to
item
number
2
that
the
agricultural
affair
committee
approved
the
consultation
detail
section
of
this
report.
They
be
included
as
a
part
of
the
previous
planation
on
the
item.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
C
A
C
D
Well,
thank
you
very
much
and
good
morning.
Everyone.
My
name
is
julia
robinson
and
I
work
in
planning
infrastructure
and
economic
development,
and
I
have
been
coordinating
the
ottawa
rural,
clean
water
program
since
2014
I'm
joined
today
by
my
colleague,
Tara
Redpath,
who's
gonna,
give
away
Tara
is,
has
recently
joined
the
natural
systems
and
Rural
Affairs
team,
and
this
program
will
be
shifting
over
to
her
in
the
coming
weeks.
I'm
also
joined
by
Rhonda
boats
Rhonda's
with
south
nation
conservation.
South
nation
conservation,
is
our
lead
program
administer
for
the
for
the
rural
clean
water
program.
D
D
We
provide
cost
share
grants
that
I
will
talk
to
speak
to
to
the
diversity
of
the
grants.
As
I
mentioned,
it
is
a
partnership
with
the
Conservation
Authority.
So
we
worked
very
closely
with
South
nation,
Rideau,
Valley
and
Mississippi
Valley
conservation
authorities
to
deliver
the
program.
It
is
funded
through
a
special
levy
of
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
that
is
administered
by
south
nation
conservation.
On
behalf
of
the
cities
program,
we
benefit
from
a
very
much
of
a
stakeholder
involvement
in
this
program,
so
we
have
an
external
program
committee
that
really
guides
the
program.
D
Overall,
we
have
representatives
from
local
agriculture
and
stewardship
associations,
as
well
as
representatives
of
various
provincial
ministries.
In
addition
to
that,
in
each
of
the
three
conservation
area
thority
areas,
we
have
local
project
review
committees
consisting
of
local
farmers
and
other
local
residents
who
assist
with
the
review
and
approval
of
each
of
the
grants
and
in
the
respective
areas.
The
program
is
reviewed
every
five
years.
I've
goes
through
an
annual
review
program
and
a
renewal
and
we've
been
operating
since
2016
and
the
current
program
and
there
it
will
be
renewed
again
in
2020.
D
So
we
have
18
grant
types
grants
that
are
available
through
the
program
and
these
are
in
the
five
categories
that
I've
listed
up
there.
So
under
nutrient
management,
this
is
things
like
manure
treatment
and
storage,
precision,
farming
and
what,
of
course,
fencing
to
keep
livestock
out
of
out
of
water
courses
under
soil
protection.
This
includes
erosion,
control
and
shoreline
stabilization,
as
well
as
cover
crops,
which
is
a
new
project
that
was
introduced
in
2016.
Under
water
management.
We've
got
well
decommissioning.
D
We
have
septic
repair
in
areas
at
highest
risk,
so
close
to
water
courses
or
in
well
protection
source,
water
protection
areas
and
also
child
drain
control
structures,
which
I
will
speak
to
a
little
bit
later
on,
as
well
under
land
stewardship.
We're
looking
at
wind
breaks
what
of
course,
buffers
land
retirement
incentive
programs
as
well
as
forest
management
force
and
wetland
management
plans,
and
the
last
quarter
category
is
education
and
innovation.
So
we
can
respond
to
interesting,
innovative
ideas
put
forward
by
landowners
in
the
area.
D
D
So
the
program
is
in
terms
of
eligibility,
any
landowner
in
our
rural
areas
is
eligible
for
it.
So
for
all
the
types
of
projects
and
then
within
the
urban
boundary,
any
farms
within
the
urban
boundary
are
eligible
to
apply
and
any
landowner
that
has
a
well
that
is
requires
be
commissioning
is
eligible
as
well
in
terms
of
promotion.
This
is
done
as
jointly
between
the
city
and
our
Conservation
Authority
partners
and
other
partners
involved
in
the
program
committee.
D
So
we
do
it
through
a
combination
of
physical
postcards
and
if
any
of
your
office's
are
in
need
of
them,
I
always
have
a
stock
and
can
get
you
some
more.
These
are
also
available
at
the
local
community,
centers
and
and
different
locations
throughout
our
rural
areas.
We
do
have
ads
in
local
newspapers.
Increasingly,
we've
been
using
social
media
so
Facebook
and
Twitter
to
get
the
word
out.
D
Terms
of
the
program
for
2018,
we
had
49
projects
completed,
and
these
are
projects
that
were
either
approved
in
2017
or
2018,
but
completed
this
year.
We
awarded
150,000
dollars
in
grants
from
the
program
and
landowners
contributed
close
to
five
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
as
their
contribution
and
I
always
like
to
flag
this.
It
really
is
a
cost
year
program.
It's
a
win-win
where
the
grant
program
is,
is
really
catalyzing,
substantial
investment
in
in
land
and
water
stewardship
and
in
our
in
our
areas
there
are.
D
D
So,
just
in
terms
of
the
breakdown
of
the
projects,
we
continue
to
see
uptake
in
all
of
our
project.
Category
types,
the
most
popular
projects
that
were
approved
in
2018
were
forest
management
plans,
and
this
was
a
new
category
that
was
added
in
2016,
we're
still
seeing
a
lot
of
uptake
on
erosion,
control
and
stream
bank
stabilization
projects,
as
well
as
well
decommissioning
projects
in
terms
of
the
the
most
amount
and
from
the
grants
that
were
awarded.
D
In
support
to
these
seven
properties.
Six
of
them
have
been
completed.
One
of
them
is
almost
completed.
Of
these
I
was
able
to
check
that
I
know
that
staff
from
either
Rita
or
Mississippi
have
been
out
there
to
see
how
they've
held
up
in
the
latest
floods
and
so
far
the
indication
as
they've
done
fairly
well
with
the
plantings
it's
fairly.
They
haven't
really
taken
root
yet
because
it's
recent
but
again
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
they
that
so
far
it's
it's
that
they're
holding
up.
D
So
if
you
see
in
the
example
up
here,
these
projects
typically
include
a
combination
of
the
stone
or
the
riprap
in
the
bottom
part
of
where
the
erosion
is
happening
just
to
withstand
that
direct
water
pressure
and
then
on
the
right-hand
side.
There's
been
a
whole
series
of
plants
to
basically
strengthen
and
strengthen
that
whole
property
in
that
section
and
so
Mississippi
Valley
went
in
the
grant
was
to
support
the
work
done
with
the
with
these
stones
and
then
the
Mississippi
Valley
went
in
and
did
the
additional
planting
in
that
in
that
area.
D
So
I
know
just
on
that
point.
I
know
there
was
some
concern
when
the
floods
happened
in
2017
of.
Would
we
have
adequate
funds
to
cover
that
and
absolutely
we
were
able
to
respond
to
any
requests
that
came
through
through
the
program,
because
I
know
that
was
a
priority
that
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
to
have
there
to
be
able
to
support
those
landowners.
D
So
the
next
project
I
wanted
to
highlight
is
one
that
we
did
through
our
education
and
innovation
grant
support,
and
this
is
a
larger
project
that
we
were
one
of
many
partners
that
were
supporting
a
demonstration
project
on
a
grass
buffer
and
erosion
control,
and
this
site
is
on
the
South,
castor,
municipal
drain,
so
running
through
several
properties.
But
we
worked
with
one
local
producer
who
was
having
erosion
in
his
particular
section
where
it
was
going
through
the
farm
and
the
demonstration
project
involved
a
number
of
things.
D
So
he
gets
to
use
that
that
grass
and
hay
for
or
the
grasses
sari
to
support
his
livestock
and
it
becomes
this
X
extra
defense
against
the
river.
We
found
that
it's
hard
to
get
permanent
buffers
established
that
are
purely
vegetation
along
it.
So
this
is
a
really
nice
solution
where
everyone
benefits
by
having
this
grass
buffer.
This
was
done
as
a
partnership
with
several
parts
of
the
city,
so
it
was
supported
through
the
city's
water
environment
strategy.
D
The
municipal
drain
unit
here
had
a
big
part
in
in
doing
some
of
the
physical
work
associated
with
the
drain.
We
work
closely
with
them.
South
nation
conservation
o-over
saw
the
entire
project
and
we
worked
with
Alice,
which
is
another
local
stewardship
organization
that
supports
best
practice
best
management,
agricultural
practices.
The
rural
clean
water
program
just
gave
a
small
grant
to
support
the
education
part,
so
we
supported
there's
a
sign
that
you
can
see
down
there.
That's
going
in
on
this
site.
We've
got
profile
information
about
the
project.
D
E
F
E
F
E
Gonna
be
able
to
mow
this
area
a
couple
times
a
year
and
use
the
grass
as
food
for
his
cows,
not
only
that,
but
the
grass
buffer
is
going
to
contribute
to
healthy
soil
processes
and
soil
conservation
for
this
project,
in
particular.
We're
also
going
to
be
using
this
as
a
demonstration
site
for
other
local
producers
in
the
area.
D
D
So
it
is
a
structure,
that's
attached
into
a
tile
drain
or
onto
a
header
of
a
tile
drain,
so
they
can
physically
close
it
and,
as
you
can
see
in
the
diagram,
especially
in
low
water
conditions,
it's
really
important
that
it's
another
tool
for
them
to
be
able
to
keep
that
water
on
their
property
when
they
need
it.
It
is
a
a
relatively
new
technology
for
Eastern
Ontario,
as
I
mentioned.
So
through
the
program
in
2017.
D
We
did
a
workshop
to
get
people
together
to
talk
about
it
and
learn
from
to
hear
from
the
people
that
put
it
in
as
well
as
a
farmers
experience
on
it,
and
then
this
year
we
have
we've
been
fortunate
that
we've
had
our
first
project
come
through.
That's
been
supported
through
the
program,
so
that's
good
news
and
we've
also
partnered
with
the
Ontario
soil
and
crop
Improvement
Association,
who
worked
with
agriculture
and
agri-food
Canada
to
produce
another
video.
That
really
is
highlighting
it's
less
on
the
technical
side
of
it.
D
It's
more
highlighting
farmers
experience
the
benefits
to
the
farm
as
well
as
to
the
environment.
So
there
is
a
video
there
as
well.
It's
five
minutes.
So
I
don't
know.
If
you
want
me
to
show
it
now
or
you
can
take
a
look
at
it
later.
It's
all
linked
on
the
on
this
site.
I'll
send
I,
can
send
you
the
link
to
it.
So
you
can
see
it.
D
So
last
slide
just
in
terms
of
the
finance
financial
overview
of
the
program
so
in
in
all
in
in
this
year,
the
the
projects
that
were
completed
have
a
value
of
almost
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars,
representing
one
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
contribution
from
the
city's
program
and
the
five
hundred
fifty
from
landowner
contribution.
Our
budget
in
2018
was
close
to
two
hundred
sixty
thousand
dollars.
D
So
in
addition
to
the
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
special
levy,
we
have
some
carryover
funds
from
last
year,
which
were
already
earmarked
for
projects
that
were
being
completed
in
this
year.
So
our
expenses
are
at
a
hundred
and
close
to
a
close
one
hundred
and
eighty
seven
thousand,
with
the
balance
already
encumbered
for
approved
projects
that
are
being
completed
in
this
year.
The
2019
program
is
well
underway.
D
We
have
this
year
and
next
year,
as
the
last
of
the
five
year
phase,
and
then
we
will
be
doing
another
project,
program,
review
and
renewal
coming
forward
with
a
proposed
new
program
that
will
be
in
the
end
of
twenty
eight
twenty
twenty.
That
report
will
come
forward,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have.
A
G
D
D
G
D
Definitely
any
every
time
for
every
individual
project
there's
a
review
process
where
they're
looking
at
what
the
best
solution
will
be
for
that
particular
site
and
for
those
kinds
of
projects.
They
would
also
go
through
the
additional,
like
the
planning
approvals
from
the
conservation
authority
for
any
shoreline
work.
But
a
combination
of
stabilization
through
stone
with
the
vegetation
is
absolutely.
G
Because,
like
if
the
house
is
built
on
a
well
in
an
area
that
floods
mm-hmm,
you
know
constantly
constant,
constant
spake
on
stantly,
but
I
just
wondering
what
the
what
the
guidelines
would
be
for,
like
that
house
that
was
sitting
there.
Obviously,
if
it
was
my
house
I
want
to
protect
it
or
I
want
the
roof
rack.
But
how
do
you
like?
How
do
you
it's
just
you
look
you
examine
each
case
individually,
absolutely
and.
D
As
the
conservation
authorities
who
have
the
responsibility
of
approving
the
projects
for
any
work
that
happens
along
shorelines
mm-hm,
so
it's
we,
they
are
the
ones
that
will
determine
if
it's
the
suitable
response
for
that
area.
I
think
in
that
particular
example,
and
when
I've
had
conversations
with
others
in
the
in
the
past,
its
the
vegetation
alone
is
not
going
to
do
it,
so
they
need
a
combination
of
measures
that's
going
to
withstand,
particularly
on
areas
where
you've
got
a
lot
of
wave
action.
That's
coming!
Okay,
okay,.
D
H
Thank
you.
Mr.
chair
Thank,
You
Julia
for
great
presentation,
I
questioned
about
the
tile
drain
controlled
the
news.
He
said
that
it's
a
new
technology-
probably
maybe
my
answers,
probably
they're,
all
in
a
video
that
we
want
to
watch.
But
since
we
haven't
seen
it,
what
do
you
mean
by
new
technology?
Can
you
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
because,
like
we've
been
doing
tile
drains
for
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
years,
so
absolutely.
I
D
Physical
structure,
which
then
blocks
the
end
of
the
tile
drain,
and
it's
either
done
on
an
individual
tile
drain
or
more
commonly
along
the
header,
and
so
it's
a
it's.
It's
not.
It
needs
to
either
be
installed
when
new
tile
drains
are
be
putting
in
or
it
can
be
retrofitted
on
to
existing
tile
drains.
So
it's
a
new
technology
and
in
that
sense
that
most
tile
drains
don't
have
a
way
of
managing
water
levels
on
that
on
it
they're.
D
Taking
advantage
and
benefit
of
living
now,
it's
I
mean
like
any
technology.
It's
got
to
be
site-specific.
This
works
really
well
when
it's
a
relatively
flat
slope
and
there
are
I
think
when
we
look
taking
a
look
at
reasons
why
people
are
hesitant
to
adopt
this
new
practice,
part
of
it
as
its
new
part
of
it,
is
it's
just
a
change
in
what
they
have
to
do
in
terms
of
physically
getting
out
there,
and
it
is
a
matter
of
making
sure
that
it's
suitable
for
for
their
science
good.
H
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
also
echo
what
construction
theory
said.
Congratulations
on
your
great
education,
video
I
really
enjoyed
it.
I
know.
I
also
want
to
congratulate
south's
nation
conservation
authority,
because
I
know
we
they
they
host
and
they
work
with
the
city
to
to
manage
the
program.
So
I
know
that
it's
been
a
lots
of
it's
been,
you
values,
lots
of
farmers,
lots
of
landowner
and
our
community
has
been
taking
advantage
of
it
and
you
guys
been
great
working
with
them.
So
I
want
to
welcome
Tara
to
her
a
new
job.
H
C
D
Program
that
that
takes
a
look
at
each
individual
and
make
sure
that
it
meets
our
criteria
and
it
will
have
water
quality
and
watershed
benefits,
as
well
as
benefits
to
the
producer.
I
would
say
of
the
ones
that
are
either
too
often.
If
they're
they
will
be
deferred
because
we
want
further
information.
So
there's
a
back
and
forth
that
happens
between
the
site,
reps
and
the
individual
applicant.
In
terms
of,
is
this
a
standard
number
I?
Don't
have
those
numbers
in
my
head,
but
roughly
I
mean
it's
more.
D
F
J
I
stole
over
the
last
two
years,
we
have
seen
an
increase
in
the
number
of
projects,
so
we
have
actually
were
in
a
position
of
having
a
waiting
list
at
the
end
of
2017
2018,
which
we
were
able
to
accommodate
with
the
next
year's
funding.
So
we
have
seen
an
increase
in
applications
over
the
last
two
years.
Okay,.
D
As
part
of
the
review
was
take
a
hard
look
at
our
promotional
methods
and
also
the
types
of
grants
that
we
did
and
we
modified
those
because
in
the
past
years
we
hadn't
been
fully
subscribed
as
a
program.
So
you
have
to
ask
the
question:
is
it
still
needed
and
I
think
we've
been
able
to
demonstrate
with
the
uptake
that
absolutely
the
program
is
still
needed
and
is
still
there's
still
lots
of
interesting?
D
Yeah
yeah:
we
we
can't
we.
Unless
people
have
we
haven't
we,
so
we
do
advertise
through
the
or
we
send
an
email
out
with
the
Rural
Affairs
newsletter.
Unless
someone
has
joined
and
is
in
would
like
to
receive
any
email
from
the
city
or
himself
nation,
we
can't
just
do
a
blanket
contact,
so,
okay,
I
just.
J
Wanted
to
add
to
we
do
on
the
program
committee
that
Julia
mentioned,
have
farm
groups,
so
they're
very
good
about
putting
it
in
their
newsletters
and
start
cleaning
out
to
their
members.
But
we
really
rely
on
those
farmer
connections,
so
a
farmer
being
involved
with
either
the
Federation
of
Agriculture
stolen
crop
of
the
organic
producers,
one
of
those
farm
organizations.
They
are
very
good
about
promoting
the
program,
but
we've
run
our
South
nation
program
for
20
odd
years
and
there's
still
people
that
haven't
heard
of
it.
So
it
is
a
challenge
for
any
program.
A
I
D
I
think
that's
where
the
benefit
of
the
five-year
review
comes
in
right,
so
every
five
year
cycle
we
get
to
sit
back
and
say:
do
we
have
the
right
mix
of
projects?
What
else
should
we
be
considering?
How
does
it
complement
other
programs?
So
when
we
last
did
the
review?
The
other
thing
we
look
at
is
well
what
other
funding
is
available
in
the
area.
So
there's
been
quite
a
lot
of
changes
to
federal
and
provincial
funding
for
producers
over
the
years.
So
we
take
a
close
look
at
that
and
see
well
where's.
I
I
understand
in
western
ontario
there's
some
farmers
that
are
using
that
type
of
additive
and,
like
I
said,
there's
a
cost
to
it.
I
know
some
farmers
in
this
area
have
have
asked
talk
to
me
about
it
said
you
know
was
this:
is
this
an
option
for
me,
but
maybe
could
use
some
assistance
in
in
acquiring
it
or
paying
for
it
I
just
I
worried
it
might
I
deal
a
lot
this
in
the
in
the
rural
area.
I
We
hear
I'm
always
on
the
the
minority
end
defending
modern
farming
and
a
lot
of
residents,
don't
fully
understand
modern
farming
and
they
don't
like
the
impact
of
it
on
their
quality
of
life.
So
my
fear
is
that
government
regulation
is
going
to
hurt
modern
farming,
so
I
look
at.
Could
we
help
it
instead
of
hurting
it?
Could
we
help
everyone
through
that
process?
And
what
can
we
do
as
opposed
to
just
residents?
You
know
pushing
for
more
regulations
so
that
doesn't
impact
them
okay.
So
thanks
thank.
D
G
A
J
Sure
so
conservation
authorities,
we
have
a
general
levy
which
is
set
out
through
the
conservation
authorities
act,
so
that
deals
with
all
of
our
regular
programming.
There
is
provision
for
us
to
special
levy,
municipalities
that
ask
for
specific
programs
in
their
area,
so
the
general
levy
is
basically
funding.
That's
covered
across
the
jurisdiction.
The
special
levy
is
for
an
individual
municipality
for
a
specific
program,
so
Ottawa
real,
clean
water
program
is
one
example
of
a
special
levy.
J
J
A
You
any
other
questions
well,
thank
you
very
much
both
of
you
and
Julia
good
luck
in
your
future
adventure
and
wish
you
all
the
best
on
the
item
received.
Thank
you.
We
have
no
one
sign
up
for
open
mic
session
notice
of
motion
for
consideration
that
subset
meetings
will
have
none
inquiries.
No
other
business.
We
like
to
welcome
the
Moffatt
clans
to
our
meeting
they're
sitting
nice
and
quiet
back
there.
Can
you
wave
yeah?
That's
it!
Thank
you
so
with
that
I
need
a
motion
to
adjourn
this
meeting
so
motion
to
adjourn.
A
This
Court
will
now
convene
for
the
first
sentence
of
the
court
of
revision
under
section
46
of
the
drainage
F
there
has
been,
there
has
been
one
appeal
received
by
the
clerk,
so
any
owner
of
land
assess
under
the
engineer's
report,
who
has
not
provided
written
notice
of
appeal
to
the
clerk
in
advance
of
this
hearing,
should
identify
themselves
to
the
clerk
assistant
at
this
time.
Within
a
request
to
be
heard.
If
you
haven't
signed
up,
you
can
sign
up
but
I
believe
the
rules
are
there.
A
H
A
K
My
name
is
Dave
Anderson
I'm,
an
owner
of
block
18
I've,
had
many
discussions
with
many
landowners
in
the
past
couple
weeks,
Bruce
Krusty
Tom
black
homeowners,
association,
Mike,
Wesley
anyways.
This
is
just
an
introduction,
saying
a
city
official
stated
once
that
drainage
meeting
in
a
drainage
meeting
noble
our
boundaries
should
be
made
without
having
boots
on
the
ground,
meaning
physical
assessments
should
be
made
before
determining
outcomes
so
getting
into
it
appendix
following
a
in
regards
to
flowing
Creek.
K
My
first
meeting
with
Robinson
consultants,
it
was
pointed
out
on
their
map
that
they
had
provided
earlier,
was
in
corrected
location
of
this
going
creek
going,
creek
originates
up
in
highway,
70,
highway,
7
by
Tomlinson
spit
and
the
only
flowing
water
that
goes
through.
That
is
a
spring
runoff
and
farmers
drainage,
which
is
not
incorporated
within
their
appendix
for
charges.
K
The
drainage
ditch
shown
on
my
property
and
property
adjacent
to
me
in
the
drainage,
ditch
flows,
down
Bleek's
road
and
then
crosses
over
into
my
neighbor's
property
and
then
comes
across
my
property
as
going
all
the
way
down.
Bleek's
road
to
flowing
Creek,
ditch,
ditch
on
my
property
dries
up
every
year
with
snowmelt
and
there's
really
not
any
drainage
into
that.
K
These
ditches
were
created,
you
know
long
long
ago,
anyways
and
they
should
be
currently
located
down.
Bleek's
Road
flowing
Creek
also
dries
up,
except
that
we
have
farmers
pipes
draining
into
it,
and
I
do
have
photographs
of
this,
because
mr.
Gagne
asked
me
do
I
have
proof
yes,
I
do
have
proof.
I
have
pictures
of
all
the
drainage
areas
now
I'm
going
to
go
over
to
now
to
the
van
gaal
drain,
the
flow
of
water
going
through
the
middle.
My
property
shows
that
I
have
water,
pockets
and
and
flooded.
K
Even
if
the
water
had
the
proper
drainage
flow,
there
would
be
a
very
small
part
of
my
property
that
would
be
assessed
in
this,
but
I
am
assessed
at
a
large.
A
large
amount,
so
I've
got
a
15
or
20
foot
berm
that
travels
parallel
to
this
drain.
It
along
my
property
and
they've
got
the
boundary
over
shown
over
in
the
fire
side.
Now,
there's
a
a
map
that
was
put
up
by
the
City
of
Ottawa
that
has
more
accuracy
to
it,
and
here
it
is
right
here,
as
evidenced
right
here.
K
This
is
more
accurate
to
the
assessment
of
the
boundary
lines
where
that
berm
is
and
where,
as
opposed
to
the
consultants
line
which
are
have
a
going
in
the
middle
of
almost
right
through.
Is
it's
improper,
so
I'm
trying
to
make
this
fast,
because
I
only
have
18
minutes
so
point?
Okay,
so
that
with
that,
so
there's
that
15
20
foot
berm
that
travels
along
there.
That's
all
been
dated
there.
So
in
summary,
all
properties
not
affiliated
with
blocks
22
and
23
should
be
omitted
from
the
proposed
bylaw
219.
K
Due
to
the
inaccurate
assumptions
and
assessments,
this
area
separate
from
blocks,
22
and
23,
should
be
properly
evaluated
before,
including
it
into
a
separate
vial
law.
Landowners
were
never
visited
and
there
was
never
a
physical
review
of
properties
concerned.
The
red
lines
that
dictate
the
boundary
lines
are
not
accurately
represented.
If
the
water
was
flowing
properly
again
by
the
nature
pipelines,
there
would
be
limited
accumulation
of
water
in
these
areas
so
that
farmers,
child
draining
and
flowing
Creek
north
of
me
are
also
not
responsible
for
any
of
this
drainage
Act.
K
There
are
many
detailed
factors
that
have
not
been
taken
into
consideration.
This
area
with
not
within
this
bylaw
plan
violas,
are
designed
to
be
based
on
accurate
and
concrete
facts,
and
not
detailed
information
assumptions
under
proposed
information.
Additional
requirements
and
cost
from
a
developer
should
be
not
be
imposed
upon
landowners
upstream.
Any
future
issues
and
solutions
with
drainage
within
blocks,
22
and
23
should
be
read
the
responsibility
of
the
developer,
based
upon
accurate
studies
done
by
contractors
and
not
the
responsibility
of
landowners.
We
are
not
receiving
any
monetary
funding
on
this
in
our
annual
runoff.
K
It's
not
considered
an
emergency.
This
fin
on
our
properties
has
taken
probably
up
to
a
thousand
years
to
develop
and
cannot
easily
be
repaired
once
it
is
destroyed.
A
fen
helps
provide
clean
ground
on
ground
water
to
Wildlife
and
natural
resources.
What
environmental
studies
have
been
done
in
regards
to
further
damage
to
this?
K
This
bylaw
219
is
vague
in
regards
to
future
costs
to
landowners
and
has
no
definition
and
should
not
be
made,
should
be
made
only
to
the
lands
being
developed
with
unblocks,
22
and
23,
and
not
impact
any
other
landowners
with
further
studies,
without
further
studies
and
proper
investigation
without
assessments
and
assessments.
Again,
these.
K
So
here
I
have
a
petition
of
over
30
landowners.
In
regards
that
I'd
like
to
wrap
up,
my
petition
will
take
another
five
minutes
to
read,
but
I
have
a
petition
here
of
over
30
landowners
in
agreement,
saying
that
bylaw
to
0,
1
9
should
be
only
imposed
on
blocks
22
and
23.
So
I
will
have
this
petition
available.
For
you,
sir.
K
I
K
D
C
I
D
I
K
K
K
I
K
K
K
K
G
K
K
Lay
nice
future
maintenance
I
explain
to
the
landowners.
What
this
this
area
here
like
we,
how
there's
no
definition
to
this
bylaw
to
19
for
us
landowners?
How
we're
going
to
be
imposed
upon
a
bylaw
to
19
that
we
have
no
definition
to
and
we're
gonna
be
asked
to
pay
extra
fees,
taxes
or
something
we
don't
know
about.
I
suppose
that.
B
Mr.
chair,
we
have,
as
counselor,
has
comment
there.
There
was.
This
issue
was
raised
before
the
meeting
to
consider,
and
so
we
went
back
and
did
a
couple
of
things
at
that
time.
One
is
we.
We
went
back
and
looked
at
the
most
recent
City
of
Ottawa
lidar
information,
which
is
very,
very
accurate
and
confirmed
that
you.
F
B
B
This
assessment,
with
respect
to
the
comment
about
the
development
and
paying
and
and
again
as
this,
to
make
it
very
clear,
the
total
cost
of
the
work
that's
being
done
at
this
time,
including
the
cost
of
the
engineer's
report,
will
be
a
charge
against
the
landowners
in
the
development
who
are
doing
the
development.
So
there's
no
charge
at
this
time
to
any
of
the
other
landowners
within
the
drainage
basin
and
in
addition
for
the
purpose
of
putting
the
assessment
schedules
together,
we
always
make
an
assumption
on
what
the
costs
might
be
in
the
future.
B
So
in
this
case
we
had
made
an
assumption.
The
total
cost
could
be
twenty
thousand
dollars.
How
that
we
have
assessed
11250
as
a
special
assessment
against
the
lands
in
that
area
being
developed,
so
that
in
fact
the
amount
has
been
pointed
out
that
would
be
assessed
to
the
other
upstream
property
owners
ends
up
being
less
than
what
it
is
in
the
existing
bylaw.
But
that's
that
wasn't
by
design.
It's
just
ended
up
being.
In
that
case
now,
my
colleague
Lauren
Franklin
also
went
out
and
visited
the
site
with
mr.
B
Anderson
and
walked
the
hydro
easement
and
confirmed
yes,
the
the
hydro
when
they
put
a
roadway
through
there
built
it
up,
and
there
is
some
some
blockage.
There
is
a
low
area
where
the
drain
crosses
so
under
higher
flow
conditions.
The
water
does
continue
to
go
over
that
drain
and
it
gets
into
the
van
gaal
drain.
So
this
assessment,
the
opportunity
as
really
is
the
drain,
doesn't
go
up
there.
It's
not
to
extend
the
drain,
but
everybody
who's
within
drainage
basin
contributes
some
flow
and
therefore
they
are
assessed.
B
The
other
thing
in
the
case
of
mr.
Anderson's
property
in
particular,
we
have
we
use
what
we
have
turned
a
land
use
factor
basically,
and
we
look
at
land,
and
so
we
start
and
say
a
cultural
land
or
vacant
open
space
land.
We
give
it
a
factor
of
1
roads.
We
give
a
factor
of
4
areas
like
wetlands.
We
give
a
factor
0.5
in
the
case
of
mr.
B
Anderson's
property,
we
use
the
a
factor
of
0.6,
so
we've
also
taken
into
account
the
fact
that
it's
not
draining
to
the
same
extent
as
a
piece
of
land
that
would
otherwise
be
open
and
and
clear
to
drain
down
to
the
area.
So
we've
we've
looked
at
the
previously
and
again
we're
you
know
the
the
concern
or
question
about
the
drainage
area
and
feel
that
it's
within
the
normal
tolerances
is
accurate
on
his
property.
B
You
know
if,
if
he's
looking
for
drainage
to
flowing
Creek
or
the
improvements
there,
that's
he
can
petition
for
that
or
he
can
bring
that
forward.
But
that's
not
part
of
this
situation
so
that
that
we
don't
see
any
any
information
to
provide
to
us.
That
would
have
us
alter
the
assessment
on
this
property,
and
that
has
counseling
offices
pointed
out.
Is
the
only
that's
really
what
this
is
dealing
but
you're
not
dealing
with
the
bylaw?
That's
previously
gone
through,
so
just
dead.
I
K
K
K
So
that
was
explained
to
me
a
little
bit
differently.
Okay,
I'll
accept
that,
but
they
again
the
the
drainage
line
that
they're
showing
on
this
thing
here
has
gone
through.
I
have
I
have
held
land
and
I
disagree
with
the
lidar
lidar
can,
as
he
says,
is
100%
accurate.
Well,
there's
a
lot
of
factors
we've
taken
in
the
place
when
lidar
is
utilized
and
all
sorts
of
electronic
equipment
can
have
a
little
bit
malfunctions
and
there's
been
issues
with
lighter
and
now
other
other
areas
as
well.
In
regards.
D
A
But
this
is
outside
the
Kroger
vision
plans.
We
only
have
to
stay
with
it
and
mr.
Anderson,
please
feel
free
to
meet
with
mr.
Robeson
or
our
staff.
After
this
meeting.
Maybe
they
can
explain
to
you,
which
seems
there's
some
misunderstanding
somewhere,
but
as
a
core
provision,
we
have
to
stick
to
our
mandate
here.
So
thank
so
there's
a
statement
here.
It
has
to
be
that
this
court
adopt
the
assessment
in
the
engineer's
report
dated
November
2018.