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Part 2 of meeting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsL_1uUSd3U&t=13s
The Election Compliance Audit Committee is an arm’s length City of Ottawa Committee and does not report to Ottawa City Council. Election Compliance Audit Committee reviews applications for compliance audits of the election campaign finances of candidates and registered third-party advertisers and considers report(s) from the City Clerk and Solicitor on apparent contraventions of contribution limits.
Agendas, minutes, decisions and more information on the Election Compliance Audit Committee may be found at: http://ottawa.ca/ecac
B
And
welcome
to
the
election
compliance
audit
committee
meeting.
We
have
a
quorum
here,
I
see
and
so
may
therefore
be
call
the
meeting
to
order.
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interest
for
this
meeting,
seeing
none?
We
shall
continue
with
the
first
matter
on
the
agenda
being
the
confirmation
of
the
minutes
of
meeting
number
three
there.
Any
changes
deletions
additions,
all
in
favor
carried
unanimously
confirmed.
B
Most
of
what
I
have
to
say
following
is
repetitious
and
can
be
found
in
the
reports
before
the
members
and
in
the
meetings
that
minutes
of
the
meetings
we've
just
approved.
A
summary
may
be
useful
as
to
where
we
are
at
what
stage
we
are
today
at
it's
July
17th
meeting
this
committee
granted
an
apt
application
for
compliance
audit
with
respect
to
candidate
doodahs
election
campaign
finances.
B
As
a
main
item
of
business
in
today's
meeting,
the
auditor
appointed
by
this
committee
will
proceed
to
investigate
the
candidates,
election
campaign
finances
and
will
report
back
to
this
committee.
The
auditor's
investigation
will
be
conducted
independently
and
will
be
carried
out
to
determine
whether
the
candidate
at
issue
has
apparently
contravened
the
provisions
of
the
municipal
election
Act.
B
The
auditor's
report
will
outline
any
apparent
contradiction:
contradictions
of
the
act
by
the
candidate.
Once
the
auditor's
report
returns
to
this
committee,
we
will
convene
another
meeting
to
consider
the
auditor's
report
and
will
decide
whether
to
commence
a
legal
proceeding
against
the
candidate
for
any
apparent
contraventions.
B
It
bears
repeating
that
neither
this
committee
nor
any
auditor
appointed
by
this
committee
have
any
power
to
determine
whether
a
contravention
of
the
act
has
in
fact
occurred.
That
Duty
is
left
to
the
court.
The
parties
may
make
submissions
at
this
time
on
today's
item
if
they
wish
and
if
they
are
present.
B
C
Chair,
thank
you.
I
have
one
question
and
it's
it's
a
it's.
A
technicality
really
I'm
sure
it's
won't
amount
to
anything,
but
it's
not
evident
from
the
proposal
that
mr.
Perron
is
a
licensed
public
accountant
in
Ontario.
Under
the
Ontario
Act
he
is
obviously
a
chartered
accountant
and
as
and
it's
a
CPA
in
Canada,
he
is
a
member
I.
Think
of
the
the
Quebec
order,
but
it's
not
evident
that
he's
licensed
under
the
the
public
accountant
Act
in
Ontario,
and
he
is
so
required,
I
believe
in
order
to
conduct
this
audit
I
think
section.
C
C
D
You
mr.
chair,
yes,
we
can
do
that.
Our
our
intention
was
to
to
meet
with
mr.
Perot
and
his
team
go
over
their
proposal.
Before
reporting
back
to
the
committee
to
answer
any
questions,
you
may
have
included
the
one
about
the
technical
requirement
under
the
Act
to
be
properly
licensed
in
Ontario,
pursuing
as
a
public
accounting,
Act
2004.
D
There
are
a
few
formal
questions
that
need
to
be
asked.
For
instance,
there
are
some
citations
of
the
former
statute,
the
former
Municipal
Elections
Act
prior
to
the
2016-17
amendments,
which
are
included
in
the
proposal.
There's
also
a
process
and
planning
outline
which
would
mirror
more
appropriately
a
review
engagement
rather
than
actual
audit
engagement.
And,
of
course,
it
doesn't
really
comply
necessarily
with
what's
provided
by
the
scope
and
the
substance
of
a
report
under
the
Municipal
Elections
Act.
D
B
B
B
C
B
C
B
C
B
B
A
D
Because
you've
already
ordered
a
compliance
audit
to
take
place
at
some
point,
you
will
have
to
appoint
an
auditor
to
carry
it
out.
If
it's
not
these
proponents,
then
it
will
have
to
be
somebody
else.
I
would
imagine
that,
in
conjunction
with
the
city
staff,
we
will
set
out
another
request
for
proposals
from
interested
auditors
and
reconvene
at
that
point
once
we
receive
their
proposals.
D
I
would
highlight,
however,
that
if
you
want
us
to
meet
with
the
good
people
from
again
Moshe,
but
we
can
certainly
do
that,
go
over
their
proposal
and
perhaps
suggest
to
them
that
a
greater
degree
of
care
would
have
been
required
if
they
had
any
other
competitors
on
this
particular
request.
They
would
likely
not
have
made
it
as
far
as
they
will
in
this
particular
process
and.
D
D
B
D
You
asked
me
to
go
back
four
years
in
time.
Mr.
chair
I,
don't
know
if
I
can
go
back
that
far
and
be
precise.
What
I?
What
what
I
can
tell
you
is
my
recollection,
is
that
agreement
as
to
the
scope
of
the
the
terms,
the
the
references
to
be
to
be
relied
upon
and
the
work
to
be
carried
out
did
not
seem
to
be
an
issue.