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Meeting of the Finance and Economic Development Committee of Tuesday, February 2, 2021 - video stream
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
C
They
really
are
well
good
morning,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
and
a
formal
congratulations
to
matt,
for
he
and
his
wife
are
expecting,
but
also
for
that
great
shanty
song.
You
you
did.
I
heard
it
on
city
news
just
yesterday.
It
sounded
really
great.
So
if
this
politics
thing
doesn't
work
out,
there's
a
great
gig
ahead
and
east
coast
music,
congratulations
and
welcome
to
everyone
bef
well,
just
a
few
reminders,
which
is
our
standard
procedure
for
the
zoom
calls.
C
Please
stay
on
mute
at
all
times
unless
you're
called
upon
to
speak
members
of
council.
If
you
wish
to
speak
to
any
item,
please
use
the
raise
hand
feature
located
at
the
bottom
of
the
participants
list
in
zoom
and
star
9
for
members
on
the
phone.
The
meeting
will
be
live
streamed
on
youtube.
Members
and
staff
are
asked
to
position
their
cameras,
so
their
faces
are
centered
and
as
close
to
the
top
of
the
frame
as
possible
and
phone
and
participants.
Please
do
not
put
the
phone
on
hold
so
before
we
proceed.
D
E
C
C
We
have
an
additional
item.
We
have
to
waive
the
rules
to
allow
it
to
go
on
to
the
agenda
by
our
colleague
councillor
moffat.
Consideration
of
proposed
whitewood
avenue
servicing
on
suspension,
carry
counselor.
Do
you
want
to
deal
with
this
now?
Are
they
pretty
technical
in
nature
and
supported
my
staff.
G
Whereas
the
administrative
environment
conservation
parks
indicate
there
is
currently
no
provincial
funding
program
for
emergency
servicing
and
therefore
they
are
not
able
to
provide
financial
assistance
to
the
affected
residents
to
resolve
the
historic
issue
and
where
our
staff
have
prepared
a
scope
of
work
that
will
provide
the
affected
residence
with
a
safe
water
supply
and
considered
a
number
of
financial
options.
Financing
options.
Sorry,
including
a
local
improvement
charge,
which
is
not
recommended
at
this
time,
primarily
to
the
length
of
time
required
to
complete
the
process.
G
Staff
has
prepared
two
cost
estimate
options
based
on
the
project
scope
and
on
the
approach
taken
by
the
province
1993
as
follows:
option
one
domestic
water
supply
only
consisting
of
260
meters
of
100
millimeter
diameter
water
main
from
dr
leech
drive
the
class
d
total
capital
cost
estimate
for
this
option
is
approximately
1.23
million
dollars,
including
services
to
within
one
meter
of
each
building,
face
to
be
consistent
with
the
approach
taken
by
the
province.
1993.
This
option
would
be
fully
funded
by
the
city
option.
G
Two
would
be
a
domestic
water
supply
so
same
as
the
above,
except
this
one
would
would
be
partially
funded
by
the
residents
as
it
would
include
fire
hydrants.
So,
whereas
option
two
is
consistent
with
council's
ultimate
servicing
strategy
from
antique
which
envisions
an
extension
of
services,
including
fire
protection
for
existing
and
future
development
within
the
village
and
whereas
option
one
would
see
no
immediate
cost
to
the
residents
but
lacks
fire
protection.
G
G
Romantic
with
1.39
million
dollars
of
budget
authority
established
with
1.319
million
to
be
funded
from
the
city's
water
weight
reserve
and
71
000
be
funded
through
cost
recoveries
from
residents
and
that,
if
the
consultation
process
with
residents
cannot
be
resolved
prior
to
the
completion
design
process
of
option,
two
staff
will
proceed
with
option.
One
with
the
establishment
of
1.23
million
dollars
of
budget
authority
funded
from
the
city's
water
rate
reserve.
G
C
G
So
the
air,
the
areas
where
there
are
water
services
that
were
brought
in
1993
there
is
fire
protection,
so
we
would
tap
into
a
water
main.
That's
already
existing
on
dr
leach
whitewood
hits
dr
leech
right.
Behind
the
the
mantic
arena,
tennis
club
and
we'd
come
up.
We'd
come
up
water
whitewood
a
little
ways
with
either
the
100
millimeter
pipe
in
option,
one
or
the
two
or
sorry
an
option,
yeah
an
option
one
or
two
millimeter
pipe
based
on
the
support
for
the
residents.
H
Through
the
chair,
so
this
is
not
coming
out
of
existing
renewal
budgets.
It's
coming
out
of
the
water
rate
reserve,
so
I
don't
anticipate
that
would
have
any
impact
on
our
regular
renewal
program
in
terms
of
the
impact
the
reserve.
I
see
ms
steffensen
has
her
camera
on
so
I'll
pass
up
her
to
to
speak
to
the
impact
on
the
overall
reserve.
H
G
C
H
C
C
I
think
this
is
an
issue
that
has
goes
back
many
many
years
and
there's
now
no
longer
a
desire
for
the
the
road,
so
we're
handing
the
road
back
to
the
private
property
owner
in
the
business
part,
and
I
think
councilor
harder
has
sorry.
If
we
have
a
substantive
discussion
we'll
come
back
to
it.
Is
it
you
want
more.
H
Discussion,
no,
I
just
think
that
as
the
only
person
here
for
sure
that
knows
the
history
on
this,
this
is
a
very
good
deal
and
if
anyone
has
any
further
questions,
I
certainly
could
contribute
my
recollections
up
and
in
fact
nepean
had
money
set
aside
and
in
anyone.
I
think
eli
might
have
been
here
in
2004.
H
C
C
C
H
C
C
So
we
have
peter
radke
manager
of
realty
initiatives
and
development
who
will
bring
us
through
the
slide
deck,
and
then
we
ask
that
you
hold
your
questions
because
we
have
seven
delegations
that
would
like
to
speak
to
the
report
and
three
individuals
have
sent
correspondence
that
have
been
circulated.
So
mr
radke,
the
floor
is
yours
please
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
you
have
to
speak
up.
I
can
barely
hear.
A
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C
A
A
Since
that
disposal
the
airport
has
been
pri
has
been
operated
by
a
private
entity
as
part
of
that
disposal.
The
city
entered
into
a
municipal
capital
facility
agreement
with
west
capital
development,
part
of
that
agreement.
The
city
was
able
to
retain
options
on
specific
development
lands
to
incentivize
the
owner
to
improve
those
lands.
The
deadline
to
act
on
those
options
is
coming
due
in
march
march,
11
2021,
which
is
why
we're
before
you
today.
A
A
A
So
I'm
gonna
go
through
each
of
the
recommendations.
The
first
recommendation
is
requesting
an
extension
of
the
march
11th
deadline.
West
capital
development
wcd
has
agreed
to
extend
the
deadline
to
april
12th
so
that
we
have
some
time
to
finalize
the
amended
municipal
capital
capital
facility
agreement.
A
A
H
A
A
The
city
could
opt
to
repurchase
both
blocks.
The
cost
would
be
approximately
592
000
for
approximately
271
acres
city
staff
have
acquired
two
appraisals.
The
land's
been
appraised
at
5
million,
rather
than
repurchasing.
The
land
staff
has
negotiated
a
payment
from
wcd.
For
the
release
of
these
options,
a
payment
of
4.408
million
dollars
would
come
from
wcd.
A
The
592
that
the
city
would
have
had
to
pay
to
to
take
back.
The
lands
is
considered
owner
equity,
so
we
would
get.
We
would
net
out
4.4
million
dollars
the
way
it's
structured
wcd
would
make
a
down
payment,
700
000,
upon
signing
of
the
agreements,
and
the
balance
would
be
due
within
10
years
of
signing
the
agreements
or
registration
of
remaining
lands
for
development,
and
there
would
be
a
three
percent
interest
rate
attached
to
any
outstanding
debt
up
to
the
10-year
mark.
A
The
second
option
are
on
the
core
airport
lands.
The
existing
municipal
capital
facility
agreement
allows
the
city
to
repurchase
the
court
airport
lands
if
wcd
defaults
on
the
existing
mcfa
agreement
or
if
it's
not
following
the
federal
regulations
for
airport
operations,
and
that's
that's
regulated
by
transport,
canada.
A
The
amended
municipal
capital
facility
agreement
does
not
include
that
option
in.
In
that
specific
form,
federal
regulations
will
continue
to
govern
the
operations
at
the
airport.
The
city
will
still
have
an
ability
to
step
into
the
shoes
of
wcd
if
it
ceases
to
operate
the
airport
and
I'll
get
into
that
in
the
next
couple
of
slides
next
slide,
please
so
block
293
is
highlighted
in
the
yellow,
so
these
are
one
portion
of
the
development
lands.
These
are
considered
more
longer
term.
Future
development
lands
probably
10
to
20
years.
A
A
Next
slide,
please
recommendation
number
three:
we're
seeking
approval
of
the
amen
amendments
to
the
existing
mcf
agreement.
So,
overall,
the
the
changes
that
we're
proposing
for
the
the
agreement
will
provide
greater
autonomy
to
wcd,
to
act
as
any
private
business
owner
to
allow
for
growth
and
development
of
the
core
airport
lands.
A
One
of
the
changes
that
we're
proposing
is
we
will
be
requiring
a
bond,
a
performance
bond
from
wcd
in
the
amount
of
1
million.
This
bond
will
be
held
for
20
years
by
the
city
to
guarantee
airport
operation.
The
one
million
dollars
equals
approximately
two
years
two
years
of
operations,
and
it
would.
The
city
would
have
that
money
available
should
wcd
cease
to
operate
the
airport
beyond
the
first
20
years.
A
Wcd
has
also
agreed
to
a
second
20
years,
where
the
city
could
opt
to
step
into
wcd
shoes
if
they
cease
to
operate
the
airport
or
if
they
tried
to
sell
the
airport,
but
the
the
purchaser
didn't
want
to
operate
it
as
an
airport.
Again,
the
city
would
have
the
option
to
step
into
their
shoes
at
no
cost
to
the
city
to
take
over
the
airport.
A
The
final
highlight
to
the
changes
are
staff
is
recommending
that
we
reduce
the
communal,
hangar
requirements
from
one
hanger
per
four
residential
lots
to
one
hanger
per
15
residential
lots.
There
is
a
residential
subdivision,
that's
been
developed
and
the
idea
was
that
it
was
going
to
be
a
an
airside
residential
neighborhood
where
people
would
be
able
to
fly
in
and
keep
their
planes
into.
Hangars
wcd
has
shown
that
there
isn't
a
huge
market
for
this
and
so
they're
asking
for
this
reduced
ratio
and
city
staff.
B
C
On
okay,
thank
you
very
much
peter
and
we'll
now
go
to.
Delegations
first
is
andrew
wild
boar
owner
carp
airport,
so
mr
wild
boar,
if
you
could
come
on
to
our
screen-
and
you
have
five
minutes
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
questions
from
staff,
so
where
we
see
you
and
I
think
you're
unmuted
so
the
floor-
is
yours
please,
for
five
minutes.
K
Good
morning
your
worship
and
counselors
and
staff,
my
name
is
andrew
wildebore.
I
am
the
president
of
west
capital
developments.
I
have
read
the
report
to
fedco
and
it
accurately
reflects
the
terms
my
partners
and
I
have
agreed
to
just
a
his
bit
of
history.
My
partners
and
I
took
the
project
on
eight
years
ago
from
our
predecessor
who
was
struggling
under
unsurmountable
debt
and
the
project
was
under
duress.
K
There
was
a
fusion
of
capital
needed
to
the
tune
of
about
4.5
million
dollars,
and
we
covered
that
and
since
then
have
infused
another
20
million
dollars
into
the
project
and,
to
date,
have
not
received
a
penny
out
of
it
over
the
course
of
time.
West
capital
developments
has
managed
the
airport
maintain
the
airport
under
a
burden
of
liability,
keeping
up
with
the
protocol
safety
management
systems
in
a
very
tight
budget.
K
We
also
maintain
a
system
of
transparency
on
giving
a
five-year
budget
and
having
annual
advisory
meetings
with
our
airport,
tenants,
neighbors
and
city
staff,
and
we
do
quarterly
filings
to
date
with
the
city.
There's
a
discussion
about
our
flight
based
operations.
Fbo
as
it
comes
into
this
discussion,
west
capital
development
needs
to
find
a
balance
in
what
the
airport
needs
and
the
space
that
will
work.
K
We
are
committed
in
our
agreement
with
the
city
that,
before
any
severance,
is
granted
on
any
of
the
airport
lands
that
we
would
build
a
more
suitable
fbo
as
with
any
other
business,
to
ensure
its
success,
it
must
run
efficiently
and
effectively
and
for
a
business
to
be
sustainable,
sustainable.
It
must
at
least
have
an
expectation
of
profit.
The
carp
airport
has
competitors
such
as
gatineau
arm
prior
rock
cliff
and
smith
falls,
etc.
K
West
capital
developments
has
to
find
a
balance
between
the
costs
and
the
services
provide
maintenance
that
allows
the
airport
to
run
and
be
competitive
and
to
boot
when
it
comes
to
maintenance
and
budgets.
The
city
is
all
too
aware,
all
too
aware
of
that
roads
develop
potholes
water
drainage
is
an
ongoing
concern.
K
Grass
grows
and
snow
falls
when
it
comes
to
maintenance
and
budgets.
Sorry,
the
west
capital
has
personnel
and
performs
its
maintenance
ongoing
dealing
with
priorities,
and
not
all
issues
are
easy
to
fix.
We
do
provide
a
fuel
service
operation
during
business
hours
as
well
as
we
supply
fuel
after
hours
like
in
other
any
other
piece
of
equipment
known
to
mankind.
They
can
fail,
but
we
do
our
best
to
deliver.
K
Having
said
that,
the
real
discussion
on
the
table
today
is
the
release
of
the
repurchase
options
as
presented
by
peter.
The
intention
of
the
buyback
lands
were
to
ensure
the
buyer.
Wcd
would
develop
the
lands
which
we
are
and
by
no
means
was
the
intention
of
these
buyback
provisions
to
extract
money,
but
to
ensure
the
development
and
the
developer
to
agreement
with
the
city.
K
K
By
ensuring
its
longevity,
we
are
adding
capital
to
the
airport
or
providing
security
to
our
airport,
tenants
and
and
pilots
by
extending
it
to
a
40-year
life
span.
We're
increasing
tax
revenue
to
the
city
and
through
this
west
capital
is
allowed
to
develop,
continue
to
build
homes
in
the
neighborhood.
So,
finally,
again
to
I'd
like
to
thank
everybody
for
their
time
and
that's
my
remarks.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you
andrew
for
your
presentation,
mr
mayor,
we're
going
to
hear
from
other
speaker
and
I'm
not
sure
I
know
traditionally
we
won't
come
back
to
andrew,
but
since
andrew
maybe
be
able
to
answer
some
of
the
concern,
we're
gonna
hear
or
some
of
the
questions
gonna
hear
from
the
presenter.
I
would
like
andrew
to
to
be
available
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
to
answer
some
of
the
questions
committee
member
you're
gonna,
hear
through
if
that's
possible,.
D
Anything
else
just
good
question
for
andrew
and
andrew:
we
we
understand
the
west
west
capital.
The
development
is
is
in
negotiation
with
with
with
their
partner
and
which
is
you
are
the
city
partner,
but
you
have
tenant
they're
requesting
a
longer
lease.
Would
that
be
a
possibility
for
you
to
entertain
more
than
one
option,
perhaps
in
a
commercial
leasing?
We
have
multiple
options,
you
can
say
five
years
and
then
we
negotiate.
D
We
have
three
options
to
negotiate
so
to
make
it
longer,
because
some
of
the
pilots
claiming
they're
investing
quite
a
bit
in
their
hangar
and
they
like
to
be
somewhat
stay
longer.
But,
of
course
that's
between
you
and
the
tenant.
But
do
you
have
an
objection
to
a
longer
lease
with
option
on
from
your
partner.
C
C
J
J
As
some
of
you
are
aware,
I
have
been
I've,
been
actively
pushing
to
save
the
car
airport
and
feel
the
report
in
front
of
you
today
has
some
applause
to
it.
It
paints
a
picture
that
all
is
good
at
the
picture
that
all
is
good
and
the
wcd
has
been
doing
a
stand-up
job
and
they
have
been
in
some
areas.
I
submitted
two
two
emails
to
the
factory
members
over
the
weekend
and
included
supporting
documents
to
my
experience
with
wcd.
J
J
If
wcd
wants
to
develop
sections,
1.4
and
1.5,
it
is
my
opinion
that
that
should
be
is
that
should
be
accepted
as
long
as
it
does
not
affect
the
core
airport,
including
runways,
0
422
and
the
fbo
building,
and
they
will
not
limit
or
modify
the
operations
of
the
core
airport
in
doing
so
in
the
agreement
with
the.
Above,
all,
all
hangar
owners
should
receive
40-year
land
leases
with
structured
fees
for
the
full
terms
that
will
eliminate
surprises
or
massive
price
increases
down
the
road.
J
J
These
investments
need
to
be
protected
when
we
add
the
value
of
the
planes
and
helicopters
olympics
you're
talking
about
a
significant
amount
of
assets
that
are
owned
by
individuals
that
have
an
interest
in
the
carp
airport,
they're,
auto
residents,
they're,
taxpayers,
they're.
Also,
voters,
I
understand
we're
not
the
landowners,
however,
due
to
what
was
originally
agreed
upon
between
wcd
and
the
city
of
ottawa.
J
Transparency
and
communication
should
be
flooded
between
wc
and
all
parties
that
use
the
airport.
The
report
mentions
that
the
hangar
owners
attended
the
last
airport
advisory
meeting,
and
that
was
true.
I
was
present.
However,
the
meeting
was
more
of
an
information
session
on
what
wcd
had
done
in
the
past
year.
Hangar
owners
were
not
consulted
towards
future
plans
for
the
airport.
J
J
My
intentions
aren't
to
fight
with
wc
but
to
secure
the
future
of
the
airport
and
make
the
original
agreement
make
sure.
The
original
agreement
is
upheld,
it's
no
different
than
the
kanata
lakes
golf
course
or
the
equestrian
park.
These
are
all
valuable
assets
to
the
city
and
we
must
ensure
that
they
are
protected
as
initially
agreed.
J
If
we
want
to
just
build
houses,
there
are
a
lot
of
other
places
that
several
serviceable
lots
can
be
found.
Why
sacrificing
an
airport?
I
don't
quite
understand
that
the
hangar
owners
and
businesses
that
rely
on
the
carp
airport
for
their
live
leader.
We
deserve
a
voice
and
we
deserve
to
be
represented.
I
would
like
to
thank
councillor
alexandri
for
meeting
with
me
over
the
last
few
months
and
providing
insight
into
into
regards
of
the
original
agreement
and
an
agreement.
I
feel
the
city
of
ottawa,
wonderful.
J
Thank
you,
an
agreement
that
I
feel
the
city
of
ottawa
must
hold
wcd
accountable
for
I
question
the
movements
on
oh
422,
the
runway.
As
the
report,
I
personally
witnessed
more
than
12
landings
on
a
single
saturday.
I'd
like
to
see
proof
of
the
the
actual
report.
It
says,
there's
100
landings
on
that
runway.
How
is
it
tracked?
J
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you,
mr
mcgiver,
for
your
presentation.
When
you,
obviously
you
mentioned
about
the
the
gravel
runway,
is
that
correct
the
one
you
had
I
mean:
isn't
that?
Yes,
transparency?
Isn't
that
minister
transportation
or
transport
canada
would
have
that
information
you're
looking
for
to
make
sure
whatever
the
number
is.
If
you
are
in
dispute
with
the
number.
D
Oh
okay,
also,
you
mentioned
the
advisory
committee
dave.
Can
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
about
it
because
the
original
advisor
committee,
I
think,
was,
if
I
remember
correctly,
it
was
made
up
of
five
people.
I
think
five
individuals
from
the
from
the
hana
owner
or
rental,
my
corrupt
and
then
with
wcd,
and
I
think
the
city
will
sit
and
meet
him
as
an
observer
is
that
is
that
your
understanding
or
maybe
andrew
can
answer
the
question
but
the
makeup
of
the
laser
advisory
committee.
Sorry,
the
advisor
committee.
K
K
So
we
have
a
matter
of
two
people
outside
of
wcd,
as
well
as
a
neighbor,
a
neighboring
property
owner
that
can
influence
or
be
advised
of
what's
happening
at
the
airport
as
well,
and
so
that's
the
makeup
and
the
city
staff
does
sit
on
these
advisories.
We've
had
them
every
year
since
since
inception
on
an
annual
basis
and
report
our
last
years,
and
we
present
a
budget
as
well
as
our
five-year
plan
going
forward.
D
Okay,
I
I
I
would
I
would
follow
up
after
but
andrew,
would
you
have
an
objective
if,
if
a
city
council
sit
on
on
that
committee,
because
I
mean
we
don't
want
to
get
into
the
weed
of
private
business,
but
I
think
as
a
counselor,
since
a
lot
of
the
concern
comes
from
the
community
or
from
the
tenant
end
up
coming
to
our
to
our
office.
Would
that
be
objection
for
you
to
have
a
council
or
city
council
sit
on
that
committee.
C
L
So
I
do
want
to
have
a
quick
chat
about
the
report
and
unfortunately
there
are
inaccuracies
in
the
report
and
just
following
up
on
the
comment
that
mr
will
deport
made
on
the
advisory
committee.
That
would
tend
to
indicate
that
people
are
actually
part
of
the
decision
making
process
and
that's
not
the
case.
The
the
last
advisory
committee
was
a
15-minute
presentation
where
there
were
no
there.
L
L
We
we
had
an
incident
with
my
aircraft,
for
example,
last
winter,
where
ice
and
snow
came
off
a
hangar
and
almost
took
out
the
the
people
on
the
ground
and
the
aircraft,
and
there
was
an
air,
a
vehicle
parked
next
to
the
hangar
that
had
over
eight
thousand
dollars
worth
of
damage
that
was
caused
by
the
falling
ice
and
snow.
When
that
incident
was
reported
to
airport
management.
L
The
comment
back
was
well.
You
probably
shouldn't
have
parked
your
car
there,
so
we
had
to
fight
with
the
airport
management
to
actually
get
that
written
up
into
the
safety
management
system.
So
that's
one
example.
Another
example
is,
I
was
refueling
an
aircraft.
Last
year
after
it
had
been
so-called
repaired,
I
was
sprayed
with
avgas
all
over
my
clothes,
and
I
know
that
that
incident
was
also
not
reported
in
the
safety
management
system.
So
there
there
we
do
have
concerns
about
the
operation
of
the
airport.
L
We
do
have
safety
concerns
and
there
are
other
incidents
as
well.
That
will
most
likely
have
to
be
discussed
with
transport
canada,
I'm
happy
to
share
with
mister
wilderboy
after
the
meeting,
so
that
there
are
no
surprises,
but-
and
I'm
not
necessarily
going
to
talk
about
that
at
this
committee.
However,
to
to
be
honest,
the
the
report
does
gloss
over
those.
It
glosses
over
the
fact
that
there
is
not
a
good
relationship
between
the
tenants
and
operators
at
the
airport
and
wcd.
L
C
I
You
thank
you
for
taking
my
allowing
me
to
speak
for
five
minutes.
I
would
like
to
echo
both
dave
and
jones
comments,
and
I
would
like
to
add,
rather
than
repeating
what
is
already
been
mentioned,
that
in
the
last
10
years
there
is
seems
to
be
no
development
of
airport
at
all.
It
seems
to
be
just
babysitting
the
whole
airport
as
a
going
concern,
so
the
original
purchase
agreement
that
was
committed
by
the
developers
were
to
develop
the
airport
and
make
the
airports
better
in
the
last
10
years.
I
I
There
is
no
time
and
effort
has
been
put
into
it.
It
seems
to
be
just
a
lip
service
to
say:
oh
there's
no
demand
for
it.
The
demand
is
there.
If
you
have
the
willingness
to
go
and
market
as
such,
I
find
it
hard
to
believe
there
is
no
market
for
these.
Obviously,
the
developer
has
a
different
motives
than
just
developing
the
airport
and
and-
and
I
can
see
that
and
in
my
opinion
there
has
been
zero
commitments
from
developing
the
airport,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
has
been
heard.
I
The
other
comment
is
that
has
been
mentioned.
Is
that
the
good
stewardships-
and
I
don't
know
where
that's
coming
from
you?
You
talk
to
the
pilots
and
the
users
of
the
airport
they're
at
the
different
opinion,
just
because
they're
keeping
it
silenced
or
not,
reporting
to
transport
canada,
it
doesn't
mean
everything
is
it's.
100
is
not.
I
have
been
the
user
for
the
last
two
years.
I
have
used
the
gravel
runway
15
times
in
2020.
I
We
are
also
in
post
or
pre
covet
situation,
so
we
shouldn't
take
2020
as
a
proper
statistics
to
make
a
judgment
on
on
this
we
should
be
looking
at
100.
Movement
is
seriously
under
reported,
and
I
would
like
to
know
how
the
audit
has
been
done
to
verify
whether
that's
accurate.
I
can
tell
you:
I
have
used
it
15
times
in
2020,
that's
15
of
what
is
reported,
and
I
can
tell
you
my
instructor
has
used
it
many
many
times
and
he
was
shocked
when
I
told
him
about
100
euros.
I
It
should
be
held
longer
than
that,
probably
in
the
tune
of
five
million
dollar
bond,
and
also,
why
is
the
city
allowing
taxpayers
money
to
be
used
for
financing
a
developer
or
giving
them
a
finance
credit
of
three
percent?
I
would
like
to
take
that
if
I
was
given
an
option
as
the
city
of
also
considering
other
options,
for
example,
can
we
buy
it
from
you
and
run
the
airport
for
our
kids?
I
I
You
know
going
against
and
I
want
them
to
get
out
to
the
airport
and
and
start
looking
at
it
as
an
as
an
option,
and
I
don't
want
the
airport
shut
down
and
I
pay
a
lot
of
taxes.
You
you
go
and
check
on
my
name
and
I
pay
over
150
000
in
property
tax
alone
here
in
ottawa,
I
am
a
local
guy
and
it
should
be
held
local
and
and
for
longer
than
40
years.
Why?
Where
is
this
40
years
coming
from
one
minute?
Why
can't
we
consider
long
term?
I
If
there
is
a
commitment
to
keep
the
airport,
it
should
be
longer
than
40
years
and
and
we
as
a
hangover
I
own
two
hangers
there.
I
should
be
given
an
option
for
longer
than
40
years
20
year
with
four
other
options
should
be
considered,
that
that
proves
that
the
the
developer
has
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
want
the
developer
to
succeed.
I
want
the
rest
of
the
land
to
be.
You
know,
use
whatever
he
choose
to,
but
for
the
airport
we
as
a
hangover
like
dave
and
others
commit
said.
I
I
M
Okay
good
morning
again,
thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
committee
members,
for
this
opportunity
to
discuss
awfully
operational
issues
at
the
airport.
Briefly,
I
have
worked
in
the
aviation
institute
for
over
33
years
with
the
toronto
port
authority
at
the
billy
bishop
across
the
airport,
as
an
ottoman
native
originally.
C
M
My
decision
to
work
for
west
capital
and
under
the
leadership
of
andrew
wildeboro
was
based
on
acknowledgement
within
silk
events,
as
capital
is
firmly
dedicated
to
the
committed
and
successful
and
long-term
operations
airport.
I
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
address
the
issue
of
closing
runway
zero.
Four.
Twenty
two
only
zero
four
twenty
two
is
two
thousand
two
hundred
five
feet:
long
and
sixty
five
feet
wide.
It
is
unprepared,
gravel
surface.
This
runway
is
limited
to
small
single
engine,
air
fat
pipes
that
can
utilize
a
short
runway.
M
The
unpaved
gravel
surface
is
subject
to
frost
even
during
the
winter
months
and
in
spring.
The
gravel
pavement
requires
ongoing
grading
and
maintenance.
However,
due
to
the
aid
condition
of
the
runway,
there
are
structural
defects
and
surface
drainage
is
poor.
The
loss
of
granule
materials
they
needed
to
resurface
and
correct
structural
deficiencies
would
result
in
a
costly,
re-engineered,
re-engineered
runway
design
and
construction
project
runway.
20422
is
only
operational
typically
between
mid-may
and
early
november.
The
runway
is
not
lighted
and
is
only
operational
during
daylight
hours.
M
West
capital
airport
staff
will
always
monitor
aircraft
from
the
unicom
system.
However,
movements
were
not
recorded
until
march
of
2020..
We
began
on
march
2000
march
23rd
2020
and
recording
aircraft
movements
on
all
of
our
runways.
On
march
23rd
to
december
31st
of
last
year,
the
airport
staff
reported
full
of
10
thousand
106
movements
on
all
runways.
The
number
of
aircraft
movements,
a
landing,
a
kickoff
or
cut,
can
go
on
one
way.
0
4
22
was
what
we
recorded
was
100
movements,
even
which
represents
less
than
one
percent
of
all
modern
movements.
M
The
predominant
traffic
has
always
been
on
runway
ten.
Twenty
eight
most
operations
outside
am
and
four
pm
occur
on
this
runway.
Since
this
runway
is
lighted
and
utilized
for
nighttime
aircraft
operations,
the
lesbian
suggests
that
closing
runway
zero
four
to
two
would
create
a
safety
issue
by
not
having
a
crosswind
runway
available.
Personally,
I
don't
agree
with
this
view
as
it's
a
product's
decision
to
land
or
take
off
and
across
when
conditions
in
access
to
the
aircraft,
performance,
certification
and
beyond
the
pilot's
abilities.
M
M
With
these
conditions,
considerations
in
mind,
among
others,
west
capital
are
working
with
their
with
an
airport
planning
design
firm
to
determine
the
best
use
for
airport
lands
and
to
develop
a
strategic
airport
master
plan.
This
capital
is
also
considered
investment
since
the
maintenance
and
other
people
of
the
airport,
including
airside,
landside
and
hangar
areas,
in
an
effort
to
improve
operational
capacity
for
1028,
which
capital
is
considering
investing
in
a
parallel
tax
rate,
enabled
connections
and
safety
and
separation
of
aircraft
movements.
As
the
carp
airport,
okay,
to
resolve
much
many.
M
Many
of
these
issues
is
sorry.
I
forgot
myself
clear
prevailing
winds.
Runway
kuwait
is
is
most
often
used.
Currently
bromide
weight
is
news.
An
aircraft
must
taxi
on
to
alpha
tax
away
backtrack
on
to
the
romney
to
take
off.
If
there
are
other
aircraft
flying
in
the
circuit,
they
will
be
required
to
wait
until
the
aircraft
tax
racket
do
the
afternoon
until
it
takes
off
just
restricts
the
amount
of
takeoffs
and
landings
that
can
occur
in
peak
or
busy
hours
and
leads
to
delays
for
other
arriving
departing
aircraft
in
the
circuit.
M
These
were
all
to
resolve
these
issues.
Consideration
is
being
given
to
developing
an
airport
land
use
plan
which
would
incorporate
a
tax
well
parallel
to
runway
10
28..
This
will
reduce
10
seconds.
This
will
reduce
the
need
for
backtracking
thresholds,
increase
runway
capacity
from
peak
hours
and
minimize
delays
for
their
aircraft
to
illustrate
a
command
and
illustrate
a
commitment
to
the
airport
in
2020.
West
capital
made
several
significant.
C
N
N
Now
I
would
like
to
bring
to
the
attention
of
council
that,
throughout
previous
discussions,
the
group
of
people
who
happened
to
hang
out
at
the
airport
have
been
referred
to
as
tenants,
and
I
would
like
to
focus
council's
attention
on
the
fact
that,
with
respect
to
discussions
between
airport
occupants
and
the
city
of
ottawa,
we
are
hangar
owners.
We
are
the
people
who
have
put
in,
as
has
been
mentioned
previously,
between
25
and
30
million
dollars
of
our
own
capital,
to
build
infrastructure.
N
N
That
hadn't
been
said.
I'd
like
to
point
out,
as
others
have,
that
the
report
that
has
been
presented
today
contains
significant
shortcomings
and,
frankly,
has
been
very
heavily
slanted
toward
a
particular
viewpoint,
and
the
viewpoint
is
is,
of
course
the
the
viewpoint
of
the
developer.
I
know
that
we
have
andrew
on
board
here
today
and
I'm
glad
to
see
him
here
to
perhaps.
C
N
Moving
forward,
we
need
to
ensure
that
the
airport
has
long-term
viability.
We've
talked
about
40-year
leases,
we've
talked
about
a
20-year
performance
bond.
We
need
to
actually
ensure
that
20
years
for
anyone
who
has
a
significant
financial
commitment
already
sunk
in
the
ground
at
this
airport,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
that
20-year
amortization
period
is
not
viable.
N
I'd
also
like
to
point
out
that
there
have
been
several
incidents
at
the
airport
which
really
bring
into
into
the
great
focus
the
fact
that
the
airport
management,
the
airport
owner,
has
been
as
hands-off
as
possible,
as
do
little
as
possible
through
its
entire
tenure,
and
we
have
within
the
airport,
something
that's
called
a
safety
management
system.
It's
a
requirement
for
the
airport
to
have
in
place
it's
a
essentially
a
measure
of
the
quality
of
how
the
airport
is
operated
and
it
is
a
means
to
ensure
that
the
airport
remains
operating
safely.
N
The
safety
management
systems
at
carp
airport
is
frankly
a
lip
service.
We
have
had
incidents,
including
a
runway
incursion
which
has
been
documented
by
video.
It
has
been
presented
to
the
airport
manager,
the
airport
manager
said
nope,
that's
not
a
runway
incursion,
it
is
not
going
to
be
reported,
it
has
to
be
reported
transport,
canada
by
federal
law,
and
it
has
not
been.
This
is
only
one
incident.
There
have
been
several
when
we
also
look
at
the
safety
management
system.
N
One
of
the
requirements
is
that
there
be
a
an
airport
safety
committee
that
meets
at
a
minimum.
On
an
annual
basis
that
meeting
to
the
best
of
our
knowledge
has
not
taken
place
in
the
last
three
years.
I
have
this
on
good
word
from
a
member
who
has
been
a
part
of
the
committee
and
has
received
no
notification
of
any
ongoing
airport
safety
committee
meetings
again
in
violation
of
the
safety
management
system.
N
D
Counselor.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you,
mr
briggs,
for
your
presentation.
I
heard
it
for
the
second
time
today
that
there
is
almost
25
million
or
so
some
the
number
been
used
invested
in
those
hanging.
Are
we
talking
about
inside
the
hangar
or
the
outside?
They
have
like,
where
the
25
million,
I'm
I'm
just
trying
to
understand.
Where's
that
number
from.
N
Thank
you
for
your
question,
mr
al-shantry.
Let
us
be
very
clear:
the
hangar
owners
own
the
buildings
they
are
not
owned
by
the
airport
they
have
been
constructed
by
and
are
owned
by,
the
hangar
owners,
so
that
25
million
to
30
million
dollar
number
is
based
on
our
investment.
In
that
infrastructure.
We
actually
own
those
buildings,
everything
on
the
outside
and
everything
on
the
inside.
They
are
on
land,
which
is
least
from
the
airport
owner.
N
D
And
my
other
question,
mr
ricks
and
it
concerned
me
because
I'm
you
know
as
the
local
councillor
and
my
community
live
there
and
I
live
there
when
we
say
it's
some
unsafety
practice
or
incident,
but
you
as
an
individual,
whether
pilot
or
resident
or
or
tenant.
You
can
report
that
directly
to
them
to
transport.
Canada,
can't
you.
N
C
C
B
You
probably
don't
want
to
see
me
I'm
in
my
pajamas
lucky
you
I'm
kidding,
I'm
kidding
mayor
watson,
the
council,
members
and
the
fed
co
committee.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I
want
to
start
by
saying,
most
importantly,
I'm
a
taxpayer
of
ottawa.
I've
been
in
paying
taxes
and
have
a
home
and
other
investments
in
ottawa
for
over
40
years.
I
love
the
city.
B
B
B
I
have
only
one
request
and
I
do
echo
all
the
other
things
they
said,
but
I
have
one
request
and
it's
very
simple:
there
is
conservatively
over
30
million
dollars
of
infrastructure
investment,
not
counting
airplanes.
I'm
talking
hangers
buildings,
supporting
structures
in
that
airport
that
individuals,
business
owners
have
invested
in
and
put
into
that
airport
and
those
have
created
jobs.
They
continue
to
create
jobs,
they
fuel
our
economy,
they
fuel
the
area.
B
We
did
that
understanding
the
agreement
that
the
city
had
with
west
capital
development
and
made
those
investment
decisions
based
on
that,
so
west
capital
should
have
to
live
up
to
their
agreement,
not
change.
The
agreement
live
up
to
the
terms
of
that
agreement,
and
I'm
just
simply
asking
the
city
to
ensure
that
that
agreement
is
is
intact,
not
changed
and
they
live
up
to
it.
They
knew
what
they
were
signing.
B
They
got
a
sweetheart
deal
with
all
the
land
around
the
airport,
they're
developing
that
land
to
suggest
that
they're
not
going
to
or
not
making
money.
I
question
that
I
mean
west
capital
is
a
land
developer,
they
know
how
to
make
money,
and-
and
I
applaud
them
at
that-
they
should
but
don't
touch
the
core
airport.
We
made
an
investment
in
that
airport.
We
expect
it
to
be
protected
and
expect
west
capital
to
live
up
to
the
agreement,
or
we
would
not
have
made
that
investment.
I
would
not
have
made
that
investment.
B
Neither
would
the
other
people
the
so
so
please,
mr
mayor
and
council
members
in
fedco.
We
simply
want
them
to
live
up
there
to
that
agreement.
That's
all
nothing
more.
You
know
to
suggest.
There's
transparency.
I've,
like
I
said
I've
been
flying
since
the
90s
out
of
carp
have
had
a
hanger
for
the
last
seven
eight
years,
something
something
like
that.
I've
received
one
email
being
invited
to
an
informational
meeting.
There's
no
transparency.
B
B
I've
never
seen
any
transparency.
I've
never
been
invited
to
a
meeting
like
that.
I've
never
seen
minutes
of
meetings
from
that,
it
simply
doesn't
exist,
and
it's
it's.
It's
very
frustrating
to
have
to
listen
to
a
report
that
doesn't
have
all
the
facts
that
doesn't
consider
a
30
million
dollar
investment
made
by
hangar
owners
and
business
owners
that
I
think,
is
significant
and
should
be
considered,
and
I'm
asking
the
city
to
to
consider
that
and
and
not
let
not
let
let
west
capital
walk
away
or
change
this
agreement.
B
We
simply
want
the
agreement
and
there's
no
detriment
to
the
city
to
have
them
live
up
to
that
agreement.
The
detriment
is
to
the
to
the
people
who
built
that
airport
and
continue
to
create
jobs,
create
business
and
grow
our
city,
our
beautiful
city,
and
I'm
asking
I'm
asking
council
to
please
consider
that
consider
us
who've
been
left
out
of
the
report,
we're
not
being
considered
in
in
that
report,
and
we
want
to
be
considered
so
to
so.
To
summarize,
I
I
I
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
for,
for
allowing
us
to
to
be
heard.
B
D
D
Okay,
so
andrew,
I
asked
you
earlier
about
the
advisor
committee
I'd
like
to
to
refresh
our
mind,
because
I
think
there's
only
two
or
three
counselors
still
from
the
original
agreement
when
we
initiate
the
advisory
committee.
So
I
believe
our
staff
do
attend
as
as
observer,
but
I
think
the
committee
made
up,
as
you
said
earlier,
two
member
from
west
capital
and
three
from
the
owner
and
some
from
the
neighbor.
I
believe
is
that
correct,
like
what's
the
total
number
about
the
advisory
committee.
D
K
Thank
you,
your
worship
and
counselor.
So
we
have
an
advisory
committee.
The
advisory
committee
was
set
up
in
the
former
when
the
former
mcfda
was,
or
the
existing
mcfda
was
drafted
and
put
in
place
and
it
and
the
representation
has
to
be
from
a
neighbor
from
the
land
owner
west
capital
developments,
city
staff
and
at
least-
and
I
I
have
to
be
at
least
two
at
least
two
airport
representatives,
whether
they're
business
owners,
which
so
helicopter
transport,
has
been
a
on
the
advisory
committee.
K
I
I
fail
to
remember
the
name
up
to
last
year.
There
was
a
couple
that
two
other
hangar
owners
that
were
a
were
member
of
the
advisory
committee.
They
retired,
so
we
opened
it
up
this
year
to
and
invited
more
people
to
attend
because
of
one
person
was
no
longer
able
to
sit
as
an
airport
on
the
airport
advisory
committee
and
the
committee.
K
So,
therefore
they
get
advice
to
get
sit
on
the
committee,
so
they,
therefore
they
have
representation
there.
So
we're
commanded,
yes
and
there's
things
that
perhaps
of
safety
management
concern
that
I
have
heard.
We
have
an
sms
protocol,
it
is
regulated
by
transport,
canada.
They
do
audit
our
safety
management
system
on
an
annual
on
a
bi-annual
basis.
We
have
to
perform
an
individual
audit
on
our
safety
management
system
on
an
annual
basis
so
that
we
are
maintain
an
airport
that
is
safety
and
some
of
the
incidents.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
andrew
also.
I
asked
you
earlier.
We
heard
lee
sin
should
be
longer
than
20
years
and
and
and
that's
obviously
between
you
and
your
tenant,
and
I
don't
think
the
city
is
party
how
long
you
can
initiate
at
least,
but
you
said
earlier,
you
were
open
to
the
idea,
negotiate
more
options.
D
So,
basically,
if
we
sign
up,
if
you
sign
up
with
the
tenant
for
10
years,
you
might
give
them
10
or
20
years
to
be
negotiated
under
new
condition,
and
you
put
a
new
price.
You
said
you're
open
to
that
discussion
as
well,
because
I
want
the
reason
I'm
asking
you
this,
because
the
mayor
and
myself
earlier
in
we
said
we
made
it
clear
as
a
city
as
a
local
councillor.
D
D
K
M
M
K
H
E
Thank
you
for
the
question
counselor.
This
is
a
question.
That's
come
up
in
the
correspondence
a
number
of
times
since
we
were
first
before
fedco
in
in
the
fall
with
respect
to
the
the
airport,
the
city's,
not
the
owner
and
has
not
been
the
airport,
the
owner
of
this
airport
since
2011.,
you
know
we're
not
dealing
with
a
sale
of
the
property,
I'm
sure
in
2011,
when
this
property
was
sold,
the
city
would
have
been
more
than
happy
to
accept
additional
bids.
E
At
that
point
in
time,
however,
going
forward
and
where
we
are
currently,
you
know
we
were
faced
with
the
question
to
exercise
options
or
or
come
up
with
an
agreement
or
let
the
options
lapse
and,
and
those
are
three
potentially
viable
options.
The
the
staff
recommendation
before
you
today
is
to
to
move
forward
with
a
negotiated
agreement
with
respect
to
the
future
development
lands
with
respect
to
the
airport
itself.
E
There
is
nothing
that
has
been
occurred
that
would
trigger
the
city
having
the
option
to
repurchase
the
airport,
so
the
options
that
are
before
us
with
respect
to
you
know
potentially
accepting
other
bids.
You
know,
in
my
own
opinion,
I
think
it
would
be
bad
faith
for
us
to
to
move
forward,
exercise
those
options
and
then
start
negotiating
with
another
party.
However,
with
respect
to
the
actual
airport
lands
themselves,
those
options
have
not
been
triggered
at
this
point
in
time.
There's
a
within
the
municipal
capital
facility
agreement.
E
E
H
D
K
No
thank
you
counselor.
I
I
believe
that
the
report
that
pedco
has
presented
is
an
accurate
reflection.
I
believe
the
comments
of
mr
moody
do
summarize
the
position
of
the
mcfda
and
that
its
continuance
is
going
to
be
ongoing
and
again
I
support
the
fact
and
actually
endorse
the
the
fact
that,
if
a
counselor
such
as
yourself
counselor
also
terry,
would
be
welcome
to
help
and
be
on
the
advisory
for
our
airport.
K
D
You
andrew
very
much
mr
mayor
item
number
943,
an
amendment
to
require
was
wcd
or
subsequently
owner
to
maintain
a
performance
bond
in
the
amount
of
a
million
dollars.
I
would
like
to
that
to
represent
approximately
two
years
of
operating
costs
for
the
airport,
to
demonstrate
insurance
of
commitment
to
the
operation
of
the
airport
for
the
next
20
years,
I'd
like
mr
mayor
to
change
that
1
million
to
perhaps
at
least
2
or
3
million,
and
I'd
like
to
hear
from
staff.
E
With
respect
to
the
number
that's
presented
in
the
report,
I
I
think
it's
important
that
we,
you
know
the
number
that
we
came
to
as
a
result
of
a
negotiation
around
a
variety
of
different
aspects
and
options,
and
you
know,
while
city
staff
have
no
concern
with
that
number
being
greater.
We
can't
speak
on
behalf
of
west
capital
development,
and
you
know
the.
I
guess
I
would
only
point
out
that
the
the
number
that
was
arrived
in
the
report
was
was
arrived
at
in.
E
You
know
in
discussion
about
a
number
of
different
things,
and
it
wasn't
solely
around
that,
but
it
does
represent
two
years
operating
costs
and
with
respect
to
it
being
increased
staff.
Don't
have
a
concern
with
that,
but
again
it's
the
only
concern
would
be.
Is
it's
something
that,
in
the
bigger
picture
that
you
know,
consensus
can
be
achieved.
K
The
thank
you
through
your
mr
mayor.
The
it
was
as
presented
by
mr
moody,
an
ongoing
discussion
of
18
months
to
come
up
and
with
different
things
going
back
and
forth
in
order
to
find
some
sort
of
consensus,
which
I
think
we
did.
The
reason
why
we,
as
from
our
side,
settled
at
one
million,
is
number
one:
the
the
revenue
is
still
being
generated
by
the
airport
through
the
airport,
maintenance
charge
and
the
land
leases,
so
the
city.
D
Okay,
thank
you
for
that,
andrew
and
and
mr
mayor,
I'm
not
sure
if
I
know
that
this
is
negotiated
for
quite
some
times,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
staff
his
work
on
this
fire,
but
there's
nowhere,
because
I
know
the
city
is
not
looking
to
go
back
and
operate
an
airport
as
much
as
we
don't
want
to
operate.
A
golf
course
or
other
is
there's
a
there's
a
way
we
can
add
to
the
recommendation.
D
Nine
or
I
can
I
you
know
if
something
happened
to
the
so
to
allow
the
the
henner
or
the
the
airport
tenant
to
negotia
to
negotiate
directly
with
the
city.
If
this
is
something
to
happen,
if
there's
a
is,
there's
a
need
for
this
to
be
added
to
the
report,
because
we
heard
from
the
owners
they'll
be
willing
to
take
over
the
operation
of
the
airport
itself.
E
E
C
Mr
moody,
just
to
get
us
moving
on
this,
I
think
a
counselor.
The
clerk's
office
has
suggested
that
perhaps
you
work
with
them
on
the
wording
either
of
the
amount
and
your
participation
on
the
advisory
board,
so
that
you
can
present
that
at
the
council
meeting
and
that
if
those
members
of
con
committee
are
comfortable
voting
on
the
staff
report,
knowing
that
you
will
be
bringing
forward
potentially
one
or
two
amendments
at
council
does
that
sound,
fair
counselor.
D
That
sounds
more
than
fair,
but
if
you
allow
me
just
one
minute,
mr
mayor
to
say
thank
you
to
our
staff,
because
and
and
also
for
andrew
and
his
team
and
the
pilot
and
everyone
who've
been
in
touch
with
us.
Actually,
we've
been
quite
sometimes
I
visit
the
airport
myself.
I
I
I
talked
to
andrew.
I
saw
the
the
operation
myself.
This
is
something
I
take
pride
in
call
carp
airport
in
our
community
or
in
the
west
part
of
the
city,
and
I
made
it
clear
to
wcd
from
day
one.
D
D
I
would
like
to
increase
the
amount
for
item
number
nice,
so
andrew
is
not
surprised
and
also,
I
would
like
to
amend
the
advisory
committee
to
include
the
local
councillor
or
another
councillor
if
the
local
council
chose
not
to
sit
on
a
committee,
I
would
do
that,
but
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
to
derek
moody
and
peter
and
stephen
o'brien.
We
worked
together
on
this
report
and
it
was
many
back
and
forth.
D
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
all
of
you
for
for
support
if
this
this
is
very
valuable
asset
to
to
us
in
the
city
of
ottawa,
and
we
like
to
maintain
it,
and
I
want
to
thank
andrew
for
sticking
around
during
the
meeting
to
answer
some
of
their
concern.
My
colleague
have
with
that.
Mr
mayor,
I
would
ask
for
your
support
on
and
and
I
will
bring
couple
of
items
to
council
meeting
on
february
10th.
Thank
you.
H
C
Counselor
kavanaugh,
if
you're
still
there,
I've
had
a
word
from
from
mr
willis
that
in
fact
what
you
were
looking
for
is
actually
being
undertaken
now,
a
review
of
the
the
program.
That's
coming
back
in
the
fall,
so
your
direction
is
not
required
because
it's
already
in
the
work
plan.
So
I
think
council,
mr
willis,
can
confirm
that.
C
K
H
The
counselor
and
I
had
talked
about
a
month
ago
about
the
alignment
between
the
brownfield
policy
and
the
official
plans
effort
to
promote
intensification
at
tod
sites,
and
we
agreed
that
we're
doing
our
brownfield
policy
review.
The
application
before
you
today
is
completely
compliant
with
the
policy
as
it
stands.
Today
we
are
doing
a
review
of
the
program
and
the
counselor
gave
me
some
of
her
thoughts
and
I
think,
and
we've
agreed
to
look
at
those
in
the
policy
review.
H
H
H
Yet
it
is
not
related
to
transit,
so
they,
you
know
they
applied
under
the
rules
that
are
currently
there
and
that
that
makes
sense
and
it's
been
accepted,
but
going
forward.
We
have
to
look
at
promoting
so
that
so
that
the
rules
are
are
looking
at
what
kind
of
development
we
are
giving
emphasis
on
near
transit,
and
I
think
we
can.
H
We
can
do
better
in
terms
of
having
more
residential
and
so
giving
incentive
for
for
that
kind
of
development
rather
than
driving
storage
units,
so
that
we
we
can
do.
We
can
do
much
better.
We've
got
lincoln
field
is,
is
very
close
to
here
and
we
do
need
more
residential
buildings
near
transit
and
there
will
be
brown
fields
and
we
we
would
like
those
brown
fields
to
be
used.
So,
let's,
let's
incentivize
the
development
that
that
we
want
in
our
official
plan.
C
C
F
F
Local
social
procurement
capacity
building
and
job
creation.
Initiatives
are
included
in
the
city's
overall
recovery
strategy
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
chief
procurement
officer
report
back
to
the
finance
and
economic
development
committee
no
later
than
the
end
of
q3
2021,
with
the
actions
taken
to
enhance
social
sustainability
in
city
procurement
and
recommendations
to
incorporate
social
enterprises
in
future
city
procurement.
For
committee
and
council's
consideration,
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
social
procurement
opportunities
be
considered
as
part
of
projects
initiated
by
other
levels
of
government,
where
appropriate.
C
F
C
C
C
C
C
Okay,
so
mr
adler,
we're
having
a
little
bit
of
difficulty
so
carol
from
our
clerk's
office
is
going
to
email
you
to
see
if
we
can
get
that
fixed
in
the
interim,
we'll
get
the
second
speaker
to
speak.
Michael
murr,
executive
director
center
for
social
enterprise
development.
Michael,
are
you
there
there
I
see
you
there.
Can
we
hear
you
say
hello,
michael.
C
O
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
members
of
committee.
My
name
is
michael
murr.
I'm
the
executive
director
of
the
center
for
social
enterprise
development.
My
pleasure
to
be
here
this
morning
and
and
to
speak
in
support
of
councillor
duda's
motion.
Csed
is
a
non-profit.
We
were
founded
in
2013
and
we're
located
in
bayview
yards,
so
we
very
much
see
ourselves
as
part
of
the
broader
continuum
of
business
services
that
are
available
in
the
city.
We
work
with
charities,
non-profits
and
social
entrepreneurs
to
help
them
develop,
launch
and
grow
social
enterprises.
O
We
also
work
with
purchasers
who
are
looking
to
build
social
procurement
into
their
own
supply
chains.
Our
services
include
training
and
skills
development,
coaching
and
consulting
and
networking
and
procurement
activities.
So
you
may
have
heard
of
our
our
annual
conference.
Last
week
we
had
90
people
join
us,
including
will
mcdonald
and
very
pleased
to
say
we
had
a
really
energetic
conversation
around
the
theme
of
emerging,
stronger,
so
strategies
to
to
come
out
of
of
covet.
O
So
social
enterprise
then
sells
a
good
or
service
in
the
marketplace
like
any
other
business,
but
it
prioritizes
their
social
impact
over
profit,
so
it
prior
it
prioritizes
that
social
impact
and
it
reinvests
the
majority
of
their
of
their
earnings
back
into
their
social
mission.
And
why
do
they
do
that?
Well,
organizations,
charities
and
non-profits?
O
Recycling
services
that
are
provided
by
operation
come
homes,
bottle
works
and
accounting
services
believe
it
or
not.
So
we
have
intact
accounting,
which
is
a
social
enterprise
of
the
ottawa
chinese
community
services
center.
So
a
very,
very
wide
range,
and
why
do
organizations
purchase
from
social
enterprises
they?
O
I
think
they
do
that
because,
and
I
should
say
why
you
know
why
purchase
from
a
social
enterprise-
and
I
think
it's
every
purchase
has
a
ripple
effect,
whether
you
intend
it
or
not,
and
if
you
purchase
from
a
social
enterprise
you're
then
able
to
unlock
additional
community
wealth
so
beyond
the
factors
of
price
and
quality,
beyond
environmental
considerations
to
include
social
impact
and
social
purpose.
So
it
supports
the
cities.
I
believe
it
supports
the
city's
objectives
of
building
back
better
and
creating
that
long-term
community
wealth.
O
O
So,
although
yes,
social
enterprises
can
provide
some
types
of
services,
in
many
other
cases,
they're
going
to
be
strong,
tier
2
or
3
or
tier
3
suppliers
working
with
with
those
tier
1
suppliers
that
are
supplying
the
city
directly.
So
she
said
in
our
non-profit
role.
We
continue
to
work
with
non-profits
and
and
charities.
A
couple
of
years
ago,
we
helped
to
develop
dallow
property
services,
so
this
is
a
social
enterprise
of
the
somali
center
for
family
services.
O
O
So
in
closing,
I
I
very
much
support
the
motion
and
the
direction
of
the
city
is
an
absolutely
key
anchor
institution.
It
has
a
leadership
position.
It
is
seen
by
others
and
also
also
will
have
a
you
know,
a
huge,
influential
effect
in
the
community
when
other
purchasers
look
at
the
city
and
its
actions,
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
to
continue
along
this
path.
Take
advantage
of
the
interest
of
community
groups
like
csed
united
way,
east
ontario,
the
community
foundation
by
social
canada,
so
a
wide
number
of
organizations.
O
F
O
That
being
said,
there
have
been
some
areas
where,
in
fact,
in
fact,
if
I
was
talking
to
robino
fine
chocolates
the
other
day-
and
I
think
because
we're
all
sitting
at
home,
maybe
a
bit
more
hungry,
their
business-
has
actually
gone
through
the
roof.
Overall,
though,
it's
been
very
negative
and
with
areas
if
we
use
catering
as
an
example
so
catering
coffee
shops,
these
have
been
sort
of
traditional
areas
where
social
enterprises
have
started
up,
and
obviously
those
two
in
particular
have
been
hit
extremely
hard.
O
So
what
it's
meant
is
that
organizations
have
really
had
to
adjust
their
thinking.
Many
have
tried
to
accelerate
their
plans
in
terms
of
moving
online
in
terms
of
an
online
sales
channel.
Others
have
closed.
So,
if
we
think
of,
if
we
think
of
eat
more
soup,
which
was
a
social
enterprise
that
had
made
soup,
it
was
selling
their
their
homemade
soup
through
farm
boy
and
other
stores.
O
P
C
P
Well,
that's!
Okay!
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
today
to
the
committee.
I'm
a
member
of
the
steering
committee
of
the
lebreton
flats
community
benefits
coalition
and
I'm
speaking
today
on
the
coalition's
behalf.
The
coalition
was
formed
in
june
2019
with
the
goal
to
achieve
a
community
benefits
approach
for
the
redevelopment
of
lebreton
flats.
P
Currently,
the
coalition
comprises
30,
formal
members
and
ally
organizations,
including
the
center
for
social
enterprise,
development
causeway
work
center,
child
care.
Now
in
ottawa,
ottawa
district
labor
council
for
community
associations,
somerset
west
community
health
center,
the
ottawa
aboriginal
coalition
and
united
way,
ontario
east.
P
Many
existing
community
benefits
already
contain
social
procurement
provisions
that
are
generating
social
suppliers
for
every
construction
dollar
spent
here
in
ottawa,
coalitions
collaborating
with
the
ncc
the
joint
facilities,
project,
team
and
city
staff
to
advance
social
procurement
opportunities
through
a
community
benefits
lens
approval
of
this
motion.
This
important
motion
is
an
important
step
forward
to
focused
and
adequate
resources
to
convene
and
connect
all
relevant
stakeholders,
mobilize
solutions
and
track
and
evaluate
progress.
C
H
C
Just
on
the
sorry
other
business
or
inquiries,
we
have
any
written
inquiries,
madam
clerk,
so
the
special
joint
meeting
of
fedco
and
the
nominating
committee
will
convene
immediately
following
this
meeting
for
members
of
council.
You
will
need
to
log
off
this
meeting
and
log
into
the
special
joint
fedco
nominating
committee
zoom
meeting
and
the
clerk's
office
has
resent
you
the
zoom
details
for
ease
of
reference,
so
we'll
adjourn
now
and
meet
in
about
five
minutes.
So
motion
to
adjourn,
carried
at
update
all
right.
All
right,
we'll
see
you
in
five
minutes.