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A
Good
morning,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
both
Julie
Ramsey
this
year,
a
behavioral,
echoed
a
committee.
They
phenol
asserted
that
more
economic
overcome
all
sale,
Aranea
dozen
min
it
will
ask
all
members
of
council
to
take
their
seat.
Anyone
who
wishes
to
speak
to
an
item
that's
on
the
agenda
if
they
could
sign
up
under
the
television
screen
over,
can
also
no
confusa
cold.
A
Confirmation
of
minutes,
our
depth,
cylinder
processor,
elbow
pull
this
septembre
de
midi
sweet
for
the
minutes
of
the
September
10th
2018
carry
communications
as
presented.
We
have
a
presentation
from
mr.
mank
oniy,
we'll
just
go
through
the
rest
of
the
agenda
officer,
city
clerk
and
Cilicia
burette
here,
miss
Polly,
the
never
cars
li,
a
legislative
services
appalls
in
a
committee,
Costa
TV
or
a
service
officer,
but
for
any
argument:
deceptive
Indies,
with
French
language
services,
Advisory
Committee
tourism,
2018,
received
no
in
camera
items.
A
Information
previously
distributed
charitable
and
vacancy
rates
annual
report
upon
order,
dinner,
dissenters,
poorly
they're,
really
nervous,
Anse,
aoc
property
assessment
builds
assessment,
review
peel
board
and
those
are
both
received.
Okay,
so
we
have
a
presentation,
the
last
mr.
man
Kony
and
his
team
to
come
forward
on
the
status
of
light
rail
transit
and
we
mister
Crips
is
going
to
join
him
as
well.
Let
him
get
set
up
and
we'll
begin
in
just
a
moment.
Hoboken
also
knows
a
minute.
B
Good
morning,
Samara
good
morning,
members
in
committee
I
want
to
start
off
today's
presentation
with
highlighting
some
key
milestones,
and
these
milestones
are
important,
as
they're
you've
heard
me
talk
over
and
over
again
and
all
the
previous
updates.
What
are
the
indicators
are
the
markers
that
show
that
we're
making
progress
in
the
key
area
that
is
important
for
the
moving
to
revenue
service,
which
is
the
testing
and
commissioning
phase,
and
so
we've
achieved.
Our
TG
has
achieved
some
key
milestones
that
I
want
to
highlight
for
you.
B
First
trains
are
running
in
test
mode
from
Tony's
pasture
to
Blair
through
the
entire
corridor,
including
the
tunnel.
For
example.
Last
night
we
had
four
trains
in
the
afternoon
that
stepped
up
to
five
and
then
last
evening
we
had
about
six
that
we
had
six
trade
and
trains.
We
did
about
fifty
five
trips
end
to
end
in
full
cVTC
mode,
so
the
communication
base
train
control
system
was
working.
Those
were
single
trains.
B
Last
evening,
item
number
two
and
again
another
indicator,
a
marker
that
shows
we're
trending
in
the
right
direction
in
terms
of
testing
and
commissioning
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
RTG
completed
critical
test,
it's
called
the
line,
speed
test
and
it
drives
out
four
deliverables.
The
first
is:
it
confirms
that
the
train
can
run
from
end
to
end
from
tönnies
to
Blair
within
the
prescribed
end-to-end
travel
time,
so
it
would
achieve
that.
So
that
was
a
very
good
indicator.
It
all
not
travel.
Time
also
includes
the
second
bullet,
which
is
the
station
dwell
times.
B
Those
are
the
various
and
different
dwell
times
at
each
station
to
enable
the
doors
to
open
and
close
based
on
the
volume
projections
of
the
various
stations.
It
also
achieved
the
top
speed
of
83
kilometers
an
hour.
The
average
line
speed
is
substantially
lower
than
that.
Obviously,
when
you
factor
in
all
the
stops
and
starts,
and
it
ran
in
full
cVTC
mode
from
Tunney's
to
Blair,
so
that
major
milestone
that
we
want
to
acknowledge,
RTG
has
achieved
with
respect
to
the
East
End
station's
bullet
number
three
I'm
happy
to
report.
B
The
DSN
stations
are
essentially
complete.
Mr.
Willis
and
his
team
have
a
dedicated
crew
of
inspectors
and
all
the
inspections
are
nearing
completion,
and
now
our
TG
is
applying
for
the
occupancy
permits
which
mr.
Willis
and
his
team
are
indicating
are
about
to
be
issued
for
the
East
End
stations.
I'm
also
happy
to
report
that
all
fare
gates
and
fair
vending
machines
have
been
installed
recalled.
B
We
use
the
Trillium
Line
as
the
proof
of
concept,
so
we've
completed
all
the
installations
on
the
Confederation
line
and
now
we're
moving
into
testing
and
commissioning
to
make
sure
all
those
systems
and
substances
are
communicating
item.
Five
is
the
state
of
software.
That's
the
operations,
control
room
systems
that
they
use
to
monitor
the
system
and
to
adjust
subsystems
as
they
need
to,
depending
on
various
situations.
That's
under
testing
and
commissioning.
Also
and
number
six
is
an
important
point
in
and
say
key
takeaway
from
today's
presentation.
B
Rtg
has
built
forward
a
proposal
that
we
are
100%,
supportive
of
and
that's
they
want
to
launch
a
practice
plan
later
this
month,
which
involves
running
from
Tunney's
to
Blair,
with
the
equivalent
of
the
full
fleet
complement,
and
it's
important
in
that.
That
is
again
another
indicator
that
we'll
be
able
to
see
if
they're
successful
in
that
as
to
how
the
system
is
performing,
and
is
it
doing
everything
it's
ended
to
do.
B
They
are
not
contractually
obligated
to
do
this,
and
this
is
totally
different
than
what's
called
trial,
running
which
I'll
talk
about
later
on
in
the
presentation,
so
they
want
to
rehearse
and
practice
the
system
to
see
where
they
are
in
terms
of
overall
requirements,
and
is
it
doing
what
it's
intended
to
do
and
then,
lastly,
number
seven
on
key
milestones
is
when
we
go
to
revenue
service.
The
trains
get
positioned
item
attract
very
early
in
the
morning,
so
as
if
it's
a
6:00
a.m.
B
start
we'll
be
out
there,
two
hours
earlier
positioning
the
trains
out
along
the
corridor
and
there's
a
process
from
getting
them
from
the
maintenance
storage
facility
out
to
the
main
line.
So
there
was
a
test
that
RTG
did
with
our
staff
and
our
operators
and
that
went
through
successfully.
So
it
demonstrated
that
the
system
can
do
that.
Next.
Mr.
mayor
I
want
to
show
you
in
the
committee
this
video
you're,
going
to
go
on
a
train
ride
from
Blair
all
the
way
to
Tony's
pasture.
B
B
So
they
have
it
mr.
mayor,
that's
when
they
do
the
testing
commissioning
from
one
end
of
the
system.
Together,
it
gives
you
an
inside
look
at
all
the
details,
including
the
tunnel
and
all
the
critical
components,
as
you
can
tell,
there's
a
lot
to
the
system
and
we're
progressing
in
the
right
direction.
I
now
want
to
walk
you
through
the
various
elements
of
the
station
starting
off
in
the
east,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
these
stations
are
complete
and
the
last
piece
is
to
get
occupancy
permits
in
them.
B
So
we're
highlighting
for
you
today
some
of
the
amenities
in
the
East
End
stations,
a
lot
of
the
things
that
you've
added
that
make
these
stations
iconic
and
certainly
world-class
in
terms
of
being
a
multimodal
operation.
You
recall
you
added
ample
parking
for
bicycles
and
mops
and
so
forth.
Certainly
when
you
look
at
some
of
the
stations-
and
you
see
the
the
last
pieces
coming
together-
everything
from
decals
on
doors
to
wayfinding
systems,
it's
an
indicator
that
we're
reaching
that
final
stretch.
So
this
is
inside
sent
along
Tremblay
station.
B
The
pole
mounted
the
oh
that
lights
up
at
night
as
you've.
Seen
many
tweets
of
that?
It's
an
indicator.
It's
a
wayfinding
system
and
certainly
important
for
getting
people
to
our
stations.
Herdmen
is
complete.
You
recall
there
was
a
lot
of
work
that
was
remaining
on
that
station
there
and
I've
given
for
you
today.
A
shot
of
some
of
the
nighttime
perspectives.
B
Lighting
is
on
on
the
stations
they're,
doing
everything
that's
needed
during
nighttime
operations,
which
includes
lighting
level
tests
to
make
sure
that
it's
meeting
the
specifications
for
our
customers
and
for
the
operations
to
the
far
left
I
draw
your
attention
to
the
iconic
Lantern
that
our
Great
Architect
has
put
in
the
station
designs,
though
white
large
kiosks.
They
have
the
oh
that's
embedded
in
there.
You
will
see
that,
along
with
the
the
far
far
left
is
the
the
wayfinding.
B
Oh
that's
lit
up
at
night
that
helps
our
customers
say
they
simply
look
for
the
oh
and
you'll
find
the
LRT
stations
you
oughta
want
finishing
touches
are
occurring
there
also,
and
an
example
of
some
of
the
wayfinding
and
the
connections
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists
and
all
users
of
our
infrastructure
fare
gates
and
vending
machines.
They're
all
installed,
as
I
said
earlier
on,
but
also
an
example
of
how
its
integrated
into
the
station,
so
our
vending
machines
don't
stick
out
of
the
wall.
B
With
respect
to
the
underground
stations.
You
recall,
there
was
a
lot
of
work
that
was
remaining
on
reto
RTG
continues
to
operate
24/7
you
can
see
the
progress
they
have
made
here.
Ceiling,
tiles
and
ceramic
floors
are
in
lighting.
The
backdrop
of
that
picture
is
the
artwork
that's
etched,
glass
that
you
can
look
down
into
the
platform
level
and
to
the
far
left,
our
speakers
for
announcements
and
so
forth
and
wayfinding
systems.
B
This
is
at
the
platform
level
down
below
reto
and
just
a
reminder
that
red
fence
that
you
see,
that
is
a
temporary
fence
that
enables
us
to
do
the
train,
testing
and
commissioning
and
go
through
at
design
speeds
for
for
our
testing
process.
Other
elements
of
Rideau
station
is
the
connection
point.
It
demonstrates
serving
all
the
crews
that
are
working
concurrently,
but
the
finishing
touches
to
Rideau
station
and
away
from
a
a
build
perspective,
ceiling,
tiles,
wayfinding,
art
cases
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
escalators
and
stairs
are
all
being
finished
and
commissioned.
B
The
excavation
portals
for
for
the
work
that
was
occurring
on
retail
station,
including
the
ventilation
grades
and
so
forth,
are
all
complete,
so
rido
Street
is
in
a
new
state
from
a
rehab
perspective
in
terms
of
being
closed
up
from
the
excavation
works,
Parliament
ceramic
tiles,
on
the
right
hand,
side
on
the
wall,
wayfinding,
escalators
and
so
forth,
and
then
also
today,
we
wanted
to
demonstrate
a
few
of
the
above
ground
station
connections
that
again
are
nearing
completion.
So
that's
lyon,
once
you
remove
the
hoarding
and
some
the
fencing
everything
has
done
them.
B
This
is
a
great
shot
of
inside
of
wine
station.
I
can
tell
you
members
of
committee
that
it
is
a
meticulously
designed
piece
of
infrastructure,
the
acoustics
in
there
phenomenal
it's
not
like
a
cavernous,
old-style
subway,
where
acoustically
it
doesn't
work.
All
that's
left
to
be
done.
There
is
some
LED
lights
in
those
columns
that
you
see
throughout
the
concourse
so
to
the
left,
are
escalators
to
the
writer
stairs
elevators
in
the
middle
and
so
forth.
Their
gates
are
down
at
the
far
end.
B
The
streetscaping
is
nearing
completion,
also
Queen
Street.
This
is
between
Metcalf
and
O'connor,
so
you're,
seeing
the
final
stages
of
that,
and
now
we
move
to
the
West
stations.
This
is
a
great
shot
of
penicillin,
an
architectural
perspective.
It
draws
you
in
it
shows
the
ceiling,
tiles,
the
wayfinding
systems,
the
roof
lines
and
what's
important
about
primacy.
Mr.
mayor,
you
are
not
only
building
an
LRT
system,
you
are
building
a
multimodal
transportation
system.
B
You
invested
in
mops,
you
invested
in
cycling
lanes,
and
you
recall,
we
had
a
challenge
on
this
booth
Street
and
thanks
to
mr.
crypts
and
his
team,
we've
done
a
phenomenal
job.
I'm
happy
to
report
that
the
cycling
lanes
were
now
are
now
incorporated
and
are
nearing
the
final
stages
of
markings
and
so
forth.
So
the
cycling
community
I
know
is
highly
critical
of
this
connection
and
thanks
to
some
very
good
ingenuity
from
mr.
B
crypts
and
the
OC
Transpo
team
and
others,
we
we
figured
this
one
out
so
we'll
have
those
lanes
on
that
that
bridge
Bayview,
Station,
amazing
plazas
throughout
the
system,
this
one's
your
connection
point
to
the
north
south
and
to
all
that
development,
that's
going
to
be
occurring
there
again
bicycle
connection
points
you
step
down
to
the
Trillium
Line
area.
There's
outwork!
You
remember,
there's
criticism
that
we
didn't
have
connectivity.
B
At
this
point,
tony's
pasture
is
the
end
of
the
line
for
now
until
you
break
down
on
stage
two
and
there's
great
work
being
done
here
on
final
landscaping,
on
the
plaza
and
here
in
the
forefront,
where
they're
doing
some
great
masonry
work
with
walls
and
landscaping
features
and
then
a
great
shot
of
the
ceiling
lighting
feature,
that's
through
the
sunlight
through
skylight,
with
those
multicolored
lenses
that
they
have
in
them,
and
now
I
want
to
move
to
the
testing
and
commissioning
of
the
CB
TC
system.
The
communication
based
train
control.
B
Remember
that
controls
the
entire
train
operation.
It's
been
used
around
the
world,
it's
proven
technology,
it
puts
safety
at
the
forefront,
so
the
East
is
almost
complete.
The
underground
testing
is
underway
and
the
West
is
nearing
completion,
also
for
the
communication-based
train
control
system
and
I'm
happy
to
report
that
that
is
going
very
well.
Our
T
G
shares
metrics
and
testing
protocols
and
mr.
Chris
and
his
team
oversee
that,
and
the
this
part
of
the
project
is
trending
very
well
with
respect
to
the
vehicles
in
the
universe.
B
With
that
train
control
system,
we
have
now
transitioned
to
double
conscious
or
two
trains
connected
together
again,
another
major
milestone
and,
as
I've
said,
all
along
we're.
Looking
for
those
indicators
that
move
us
into
the
end
state
of
how
this
train
operation
needs
to
work,
there's
integrated
testing
through
the
full
alignment
in
terms
of
yeah,
the
trains
being
tested
and
they
can
operate
multiple
vehicles
with
full
control
from
end
to
end,
as
we
could
began
last
night
with
up
to
six
trains
running
at
full
line.
B
Rt
g
is
focusing
on
that
practice
plan
and
the
details
providing
us
those
details
so
that
they
can
launch
that,
hopefully,
in
the
end
of
November,
and
we
get
an
inside
look
as
to
how
the
entire
system
is
working
with
respect
to
operational
systems,
the
SCADA
system,
that's
our
control
functionality
that
our
operator
that
our
controllers
use
I'm
happy
to
report
that
they
delivered
that
software.
There
is
classroom
training,
that's
underway.
Once
the
full
commission
is
completed.
B
We
then
move
to
infield
training
and
another
milestone
at
the
end
of
this
slide
is
the
RTG
has
moved
their
testing
regime
into
our
control
center,
which
I'll
show
you
a
picture
of
in
a
moment,
so
the
transit
operation
control
center,
the
TOC
see
many
of
you.
Then
this
is
a
first
in
North
America.
You
know
I
often
talk
about
how
in
Ottawa
we
don't
brag
or
that
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done
but
I've
been
to
New
York,
City,
Boston
and
we've
been
to
Philadelphia
other
large
operations.
B
Nobody
has
what
you're
building
in
Ottawa
a
fully
integrated
multimodal
control
system,
all
modes,
train
electric
diesel,
bus
power
and
security.
All
integrated
under
one
system:
why
is
that
important?
You
can
adjust
the
systems
on
the
fly.
You
can
make
adjustments
for
winter
conditions,
breakdowns
and
so
forth,
and
this
part
of
the
project
is
being
watched
by
the
transit
world.
This
is
the
the
center
to
the
right.
Those
screens
up
on
the
far
right
are
the
bus
squeeze
and
a
direct
feed
from
our
traffic
operations.
Control
center,
fully
integrated
into
here
to
the
left.
B
Now
the
civil
build
is
important,
but
you
also
also
have
to
be
operational,
ready
and
I
want
to
show
you
some
of
the
significant
milestones
we've
achieved
on
the
city
side
of
things.
So
the
the
bus
to
rail
connections
are
critical.
The
train
system
is
important,
but
we're
going
to
continue
rely
on
a
very
efficient
bus
system.
We
are
going
to
feed
customers
of
various
stations
throughout
the
network
in
the
three
major
transfer.
Points
are
Tony's,
headsman
and
Blair.
B
This
hasn't
been
done,
but
we
wanted
to
be
proactive,
we've
tested,
we
are
testing
each
one
of
those
three
transfer
points
using
mock
service
scenarios,
so
we've
taken
bus
and
staff
and
we've
pushed
volume
through
those
stations
to
see
how
they
will
perform
I'm
happy
to
report
that
Eggman
was
done
on
October
28th
and
it
performed
very,
very
well
we're
finalizing
all
the
results
from
the
observation
tests
and
so
forth.
We
now
move
to
Tiny's
and
to
Blair
and
I
just
want
to
share
with
you
some
photos.
This
is
about.
B
It
was
just
we
started
at
4:00.
In
the
morning
we
took
about
40
50
buses
and
we
started
to
stress
test
the
platforms
and
created
situations,
including
mock
incidents,
accidents
and
so
forth.
This
is
a
snail
we're
trying
to
actually
get
the
system
Jam
to
see
how
far
we
can
go
to
prevent
any
chaos
and
so
forth.
So
the
system
performed
very,
very
well
so
herdmen,
as
has
a
great
green
box
attached
to
it
from
a
bus
to
rail
transfer
perspective.
Next
is
the
great
work
that
we're
doing
with
our
emergency
partners.
B
Thank
you
to
mr.
Demonte
and
chief
Bertolo.
They
have
been
great
partners
throughout
this
I
get
many
questions
about
what
are
we
doing
for
emergency
training
exercises
and
risk
management,
and
so
forth?
I
can
assure
members
of
council.
We
have
a
risk
registry.
We
have
hundreds
of
scenarios
that
we've
not
that
we
add
other
layer
complexity
in
that
we
are
the
nation's
capital
and
we
have
safety
protocols
that
are
confidential
in
nature.
We
are
right
near
the
Parliament
district,
so
we
need
to
be
cognizant
of
that.
B
So
there's
been
numerous
training
exercises
and
that
we've
gone
from
paper
to
tabletop
to
to
in
the
field,
and
it
includes
all
our
partners,
police,
paramedics,
fire
and
other
city
departments,
including
Emergency,
Operations
Group,
and
the
purpose
of
that
is
to
practice
and
to
ensure
that
we're
ready
for
what
what
the
potentially
occurred.
You
will
always
have
an
incident.
B
You
need
to
be
ready
for
them,
and
these
shots
show
you
the
mobilisation
of
the
various
partners
and
not
only
are
they
there,
but
they're,
also
bringing
your
equipment
and
their
skills
and
their
training
to
the
forefront,
great
partners.
They
enjoyed
these
exercises
and
the
learnings
were
great.
We
do
not
reinvent
the
wheel.
There
are
other
agencies
out
there
that
have
these
types
of
operations,
so
we
take
the
best
practices
from
them
and
we
take
the
knowledge
from
our
emergency
partners
and
incorporate
them.
B
Training
training
is
ongoing,
including
their
operators
and
our
controllers
and
all
city
staff.
A
reminder
that
OC
transfer
is
going
through
the
most
significant
change
organization
in
the
history,
and
it's
not
just
about
operating
the
trains.
It's
customer
service,
it's
call
intake,
it's
planning
its
operations
and
supervisory
services
also,
so
there's
an
impacts
entire
organization.
These
are
some
exercises
in
the
maintenance
and
storage
facility,
with
our
great
staff,
doing
pre-trip
inspections
and
so
forth.
This
was
during
that
handover
exercise
that
I
mentioned
early
on.
That's
a
train
going
through
the
and
over
the
switches.
B
So,
mr.
mayor,
the
the
key
activities
that
we
continue
to
monitor
and
I
know,
I
will
again
emphasize
we're
looking
for
progress
and
indicators
in
the
testing
and
commissioning
environment.
So
we
we
are
working
hand-in-hand
with
our
T
G
to
complete
and
embrace
the
details
associated
with
that
practice
plan
that
they're
bringing
forward
it
ensures
what
I've
talked
about
over
and
over
again.
That
is
the
system
performing
the
way
it's
supposed
to
with
run
time.
B
Speed
do
all
times
and
all
the
subsystems
and
and
major
systems
working
routine,
you
to
watch
Rideau
Parliament
and
the
West
stations
to
get
them
to
the
state
of
completeness
that
the
East
End
stations
have
achieved
and
we're
coordinating
with
our
Building
Code
services
as
we
need
to
secure
occupancy
permits.
Our
two
units
are
secure
permits,
there's
the
full
complement
of
vehicles
operating
in
c
bt
c
node
along
the
entire
alignment,
the
end-to-end
vehicle
testing
and
system
verifications.
What
does
that
mean?
B
B
Rtg
successfully
launches
their
practice
plan,
and
hopefully
that
goes
well
we'll
learn
from
that
bill.
Learned
from
that
again,
that's
not
a
contractually
obligated
step.
It's
a
very
good,
proactive
measure
that
our
external
experts
have
also
endorsed,
and
the
mr.
crypts
and
myself
and
our
teams
from
the
applaud
RTG
for
doing
this
initiative.
The
if
you
to
move
on
to
safety,
sign-off,
better
safety
auditor,
a
reminder
that
they
need
to
go
through
everything,
all
the
documentation,
ensure
that
the
system
is
safe
and
reliable,
where
you
can
then
move
to
substantial
completion.
B
If
that
gets
signed
off
you,
then
move
to
trial,
running
and
trial
running
is
a
proscribed
protocol
that
they
need
to
pass,
and
that's
why
doing
this
first
step
is
helpful
for
r2g.
They
can
see
if
there's
any
bugs
in
the
system
and
they
can
be
proactive
and
get
to
trial,
running
and
get
a
higher
level
of
confidence
with
respect,
and
then
they
can,
if
they
pass
trial
running,
they
can
move
to
RSA
and
I'll.
B
Our
position
continues
to
be
that
it's
sometime
in
q1
of
2019
RTG,
that,
with
respect
to
the
specific
date
RTG
has
made
it
clear
to
us
and
both
myself
mr.
crypts
and
the
city
manager
agree.
We
want
a
date
that
assures
as
much
certainty
as
they
can
provide.
We
want
a
reliable
date.
We
want
a
date,
that's
based
on
technical
findings.
We
want
to
let
a
date
that's
aligned
to
what
I've
been
telling
counsel
all
the
time
is
that
you
need
to
see
those
markers
moving
in
the
right
direction.
B
Those
indicators
on
testing
and
commissioning
so
q1
2019
is
what
I
can
provide
you
today.
There's
still
work
to
be
done,
and
you
know
to
be
candid:
there
are
very
good
days
in
testing
and
commissioning
and
there
are
challenging
days
and
that's
what
you
want.
You
want
to
find
out
where
the
issues
out
and
you
want
to
proactively
deal
with
them
the
goal.
The
outcome
is
very
crystal
clear:
a
safe,
reliable
system
that
gets
the
taxpayers
the
2.1
billion
dollar
investment
in
accordance
of
the
project
agreement.
That's
our
relentless
perceived
mr.
B
A
Thank
you
very,
very
much
mr.
McCarney
mr.
crypts
and
the
entire
team
I
think
when
people
see
the
video
they're
going
to
be
quite
proud
and
excited
the
progress,
that's
been
made
and
end
recognizers
still
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done,
but
we
appreciate
getting
the
the
commitment
from
the
first
quarter
of
2019
as
well.
So
questions
from
members
of
council
councillor
deeds.
C
Thank
you
and
I
recognize
how
big
this
project
is
and
how
many
parts
of
the
system
need
to
work
together
in
order
to
make
this
work
so
looks
like
you're
moving
forward
in
the
right
direction.
I
think
I
agree
with
you.
It's
very
hard
to
serve
it
on
a
certainty
when
it's
going
to
be
ready
because
it'll
be
ready
when
it's
ready
and
probably
not,
but
you
talked
about
the
practice
plan.
I
wondered
if
the
practice
plan
involves
people
again
member.
B
Part
of
the
practice
plan
no,
but
we
have
a
separate
exercise
with
full
loads
with
a
staff
volunteering
and
we're
looking
for
non
transit
customers,
people
that
don't
typically
use
the
system
because
often,
if
you
get
you
know,
if
I
load
it
up
with
a
bunch
of
OSI
transport
drivers
and
staff
as
an
example,
they
know
how
to
use
the
system
we're
looking
for
people
that
aren't
as
familiar
with
it.
So
we
have
a
full
test
that
we'll
be
doing
exactly
that
outside
of
our
practice
plan
and
a
number
of
other
tests
also
so.
B
C
B
B
We
have.
We
continue
to
have
a
fantastic
relationship
with
with
a
tu
279
and
with
all
the
unions
and
so
they're
fully
cooperative
to
understand,
and
they
the
presidents
understand
that,
once
we
have
a
date
that
has
that
high
probability
from
rgg
and
high
confidence
level,
then
we
can
adjust
the
notices
to
to
the
Union
net
to
the
operators.
They're
sticking
around
and
they've
been
very,
very
loyal
to
the
company.
B
We've
seen
none
of
that
trend
and
I
commend
them
for
doing
that
are
some
of
them
actively
looking
for
employment,
absolutely,
we
actually
have
measures
in
place
we're
working
with
our
HR
team
that
we're
helping
them.
You
know
CD,
preparation
and
so
forth,
so
that
when
they
do
get
their
layoff
notice,
the
positioned
for
their
work
and
have
other
transit
agencies
calling
me
asking
them
to
consider
applying
I,
know:
Kingston's
expanding
mature,
all
looking
for
500
operators
and
so
forth.
So
we'll
we're
bridging
all
those
opportunities
and
we're
passing
those
on
okay.
C
B
We
are
not
increasing
the
fares,
we're
going
to
bring
all
of
that
to
us
by
the
budget
process
in
the
direction
was
taken.
The
treasurer
and
I
spoke
and
spoke
to
mr.
O'connor.
So
legislature,
we
from
a
governance
perspective
were
not
increase
in
fares
and
we
bring
the
for
the
report
as
per
the
budget
process.
Okay,.
C
We
agree,
there's
been
cancelled,
trips
and
late
trips
and
problematic
trips
and
it's
difficult
for
the
users,
but
it's
not
worse
than
anybody
else's,
which
is
not
really
an
acceptable
answer
to
me
or
to
the
transit
riders
in
my
board.
So
what
are
you
going
to
do
between
now
and
when
that
revenue
service
on
the
LRT
starts
to
address
the
real
and
problematic
problems
of
the
existing
transit
routes?
Today,.
B
So
so
I
I
hear
the
message
loud
and
clear:
I've
had
many
counselors
talk
to
me
about
the
challenges
and
the
reality
is
the
following.
You
have
couple
things:
there
is
no
playbook
for
this.
Nobody
has
done
this
in
the
world.
The
busiest
BRT
and
put
five
detours
in
place
for
an
extended
period
of
time
and,
as
we
know,
we've
done
a
fairly
good
job
of
that
in
terms
of
figuring
out
how
to
do
that.
I
always
thank
our
customers,
because
I
know
the
stress
they're
under
it
is
a
challenge
for
them.
B
We
are
when
it's
bad,
it's
bad.
We
one
little
hiccup
in
the
downtown
core
tips,
the
entire
interline
system.
You
have
an
interline
system
and
those
buses
that
are
in
detour
get
caught
up
in
the
same
traffic
than
anybody
else
does,
and
so
what
we're
doing
with
our
team
is
where
we
can.
We
fill
in
with
what
limited
spare
buses
we
have
as
part
of
our
operational
plan,
will
work
individually
with
each
councillor
to
explore
ideas.
I
just
finished
an
extensive
process
with
councillor
harder
and
councillor
Dean's.
B
If
there's
challenges
in
your
award
I
know,
I
wasn't
aware
that
there
are
I'm
happy
to
bring
an
individual
think
outside
the
box,
because
we
wanted
to
care
the
customer,
and
you
know,
I,
hear
the
noise
out
there
also
I
know
what
you've
been
receiving
at
the
doors.
I
also
know
that
we
deliver
hundreds
of
thousands
of
passenger
trips
every
day
and
we
don't
from
those
people.
B
But
if
it's
your
trip
and
you're
late,
you
don't
care
about
the
other
300,000
people
that
we've
moved
safely
through
the
system,
so
I
understand
it,
and
so
what
I
offer
is
some
of
the
smartest
people
in
the
transit
industry.
You
know
our
team
will
meet
with
you
will
meet
with
your
staff
and
hear
that
the
issues
and
see
what
we
can
do.
We
are
limited
right
now,
though,
in
terms
of
we're
transforming
the
entire
system,
and
so
it's
not
that
staff
want
to
defend
that.
It's
not
occurring
out
there.
B
C
Yeah
well
I'm,
not
quite
finished
I'm,
not
sure.
That's
enough,
so
I
think
there
has
to
be
a
better
plan
and
yeah
I've
worked
with
your
staff
for
sure
on
the
routes
in
my
word,
but
the
they'd
failed
on
some,
but
not
on
earth
and
I
wonder
what
impact
it's
going
to
have
on
ridership
retention
in
the
long
term.
When
people
you
can't
be
late
to
work
on
an
ongoing
basis
without
making
another
choice,
I.
B
Understand
ridership
last
quarter
was
up
saving
again
I
thank
the
customers
for
taking
the
service
I.
You
know,
I,
there
are
situations
where
it's
going
to
occur.
We're
gonna
get
a
snowstorm
one
of
these
days
and
it
would
be
a
challenge,
but
the
focus
I
believe
needs
to
be
to
continue
to
what
we're
getting
in
terms
of
this
system
and
how
to
improve
the
system,
reliability
and
the
performance
of
it.
You
have
stage
two
coming
also
that
takes
you
even
a
step
further,
but
we
are
in
full
detours
on
five
segments
of
that
transit
way.
B
That's
always
part
of
the
plan.
It's
been
part
of
the
plan.
We
knew
this
is
going
to
be
a
challenge.
We
don't
have
unlimited
resources
if
I
had
extra
buses
and
extra
people
I
would
deploy
them.
We
do
not
have
that
and
you
did
buy
extra
buses
for
the
detours.
As
you
know,
those
have
all
been
fully
deployed,
and
so
we
will
work
to
the
best
of
our
ability
to
do
what
we
can
and
to
see.
B
B
Haven't
seen
the
draft
yet
I
know
I'll
ask
the
treasurer
to
speak
to
that,
but
just
to
also
give
you
assurances
we're
doing
everything
that
we've
told
you
we're
doing
like
we've
penalized
our
r2g
a
million
dollars
for
the
November
2nd
date
that
gets
locked
off
for
their
next
bill.
So
perhaps
the
treasurer
can
ask
answer
on
the
memo
we.
D
D
Mr.
mayor
and
thank
you
John
your
team
very
informative
this
morning
and
we've
got
now
just
a
couple
of
questions,
so
the
the
simulation
that
you
showed
us
at
4:00
in
the
morning
or
whatever
in
tried
to
jam
the
system
and
back
it
up
and
all
those
sorts
of
things.
So
there
were
no
people
involved
in
that,
though
correct.
That
was
not
a
scenario
where
we
had
people
getting
on
and
off
of
the
buses.
That's
yet
to
come.
Yeah.
B
The
risk
on
the
bus
piece
isn't
significant.
The
people
on
the
trains
is
the
simulation
that
we
want
to
do
councillor
Dean's
this
point:
that's
what
we
want
to
see
in
terms
of
wayfinding
and
so
forth.
The
issue
on
those
transfer
points
were
the
busiest
some
of
the
busiest
transfers
in
North
America.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
the
buses
could
do
other
maneuvers
in
those
transfer
areas.
Okay,.
D
D
We've
talked
a
lot
and
councillor
Dean's
raised
about
concerns
about
the
existing
service
and,
and
you
have
said
that
we
are
going
to
see
a
significant
change
when
the
train
gets
into
into
play
and
is
working
and
but
I
guess.
My
question
is
about
Montreal,
with
a
subway
system.
Stuff
happens
so
in
terms
of
managing
expectations
on
opening
day
open
week.
What
what
is
likely
the
biggest
challenge
for
the
writer?
This
is
not
going
to
be
the
magic
bullet.
It's
not
going
to
fix
everything
just
because
the
train
is
there.
D
So
if
I
was
going
to
be
taking
that
train
the
first
the
first
week,
what
yep
expectation
did
you
be
working
notes
to
manage
for
me
as
an
existing
writer
or
some,
whose
warning
the
tribal
system?
What
you
think
is
not
going
to
work
where
is
not
going
to
not
going
to
work
as
well
as
people
anticipate
it
might
if
we
get
one
going,
certainly.
B
So
start
at
the
outcome
level
level:
where
does
the
enhancements
to
a
reliability
on
bus
service?
Improve
it's
simple?
You
don't
have
buses
that
have
to
go
through
the
core
in
the
linings
less
than
the
outcome
base
and
words
can
stay
more
in
the
east,
west
and
south
and
focus
on
that
on
the
what
what
the
customer
lends.
B
What
are
the
issues?
What
can
belong
and
what
are
the
contingency
plans,
because
you're
absolutely
like
things
will
go
wrong.
The
train
will
break
down
one
day.
What
do
you
do
you
go
to
what's
called
bus,
bridging
service
like
they
do
in
Montreal,
Toronto,
New,
York
and
Boston?
We
have
bus,
bridging
signage
that
you're
going
to
see
we're
going
to
through
the
ready
campaign,
incrementally
start
to
educate
the
public
on
all
those
elements
that
you're
pointing
to
counselor
and
that's
why?
B
When
I
meet
with
RTG
I
say
the
RSA
date
is
important,
not
just
because
we
launched
but
I
have
hundreds
of
thousands
of
customers
that
we
need
to
educate,
and
we
want
to
do
that
incrementally,
not
a
Big
Bang.
That's
all
ready
to
go
and
ready
to
be
launched
as
part
of
the
ready
for
rail
campaign,
and
so
it's
incremental
feeding
to
our
customers.
D
A
next
question
and
I
know:
I
won't,
pin
you
down
on
a
date.
We've
all
tried
for
months
to
do
that.
The
media
us
I
know
we're
not
going
to
get
a
date
from
you
today,
but
you've
said
first
quarter
is
your
best
expectation?
Are
you
getting
any
advice?
I
know:
we've
got
our
independence
panel
of
experts
reunion.
The
whole
thing.
Are
we
getting
any
advice
as
to
concerns
about
a
midwinter
opening
versus
the
spring
opening?
Is
there
other
other
issues
in
the
noel
match?
Well,.
B
No
railroad
system
wants
to
open
up
in
the
winter
because
it
presents
another
challenge,
but
what
you
do
to
mitigate
that,
if
we
are
into
a
winter
launch,
I
have
a
crew
right
now
with
our
TM.
That's
the
maintenance
consortium
down
in
boston.
Boston
went
through
the
worst
rail
and
LRT
winter
disaster
years
ago.
You
can
google
it
and
see
what
happened
that
trains
shut
down
for
days.
B
The
lessons
learned
from
that
the
equipment,
the
deployment
of
resources
we
tapped
into
them
years
ago,
we've
taken
that
in
without
their
seeing
that
firsthand,
our
TM
has
specialized
equipment
that
they're
testing
right
now,
we've
seen
all
that
we've
had
the
independent
assessment
team.
Look
at
that
and
then
we're
doing
a
lot
of
best-in-class
scenarios
for
winter
plans,
which,
for
example,
don't
shut
down
your
service
overnight.
If
it's
freezing
rain
or
snowing,
keep
the
trains
running.
B
So
your
track
stays
clear
and
so
forth,
so
we're
mitigating
all
those
things
and
on
the
ground,
at
OC
transfer,
we
have
a
few
thousands
years
of
experience
of
rail
operators
that
not
just
operated
systems
but
they're.
Also,
testing
commissioned
they're
embedded
with
our
team's
training
them
on
all
those
things,
and
our
team
is
a
very
good
general
manager
on
their
maintenance
side.
They
have
an
excellent
relationship
with
hey
and.
D
Last
last
question
this:
this
is
the
last
meeting
of
this
committee
for
this,
the
council
and
there's
a
bit
of
a
gap
between
before
we
get
committees
up
and
running
again
how
our
updates
going
to
be
handled
between
now
and
then
we
have,
we
have
a
new
fedko
or
whatever.
We
might
call
it
in
the
next
tournament
Council.
How
is
that
going
to
manage
if
there's
something
that
comes
up,
that
we
need
to
know
that
so.
B
A
couple
of
things,
our
quarterly
mammals
will
continue.
I
know
we
have
one
coming
out,
I
believe
it's
on
the
20th
November
and
then
obviously,
this
file
reports
to
the
mayor's
office
so
I'll
take
guidance
from
him
and
the
city
manager.
If
there's
any
major
updates
on
that,
but
I
suspect
it
may
be
honest.
The
city
manager
comment,
as
we've
done
in
the
past,
of
their
significant
milestones:
we've
communicated
through
memos,
so
yeah.
D
A
Think
is
the
general
manager
said
Kell,
sir,
if
there
is
information
that
will
be
shared
with
everyone,
every
councillors
in
this
interim
period,
where
we
don't
have
our
new
committee
structure
set
up,
but
we're
all
going
to
be
sworn
in
on
December
1st
and
will
be
available
to
the
need
for
an
emergency
meeting
of
any
kind.
I'll
certainly
be
pleased
to
call
one.
So
thank
you.
Thank
You,
deputy
there
Taylor,
please
thanks
very
much
mr.
mayor
and
thank
you
very
much
mr.
Mahoney,
mr.
Crump's
you've
done
an
exceptional
job,
not
just
with
the
system.
A
With
your
update
today
and
with
your
presentation,
the
fullness
of
your
presentation,
my
colleagues
questions.
Most
of
my
questions
have
been
knocked
off.
I
do
want
to
say
thank
you
very
much
for
the
route
changes
that
you're
able
to
implement.
In
my
ward,
the
151
153
to
patch
the
western
extension
of
the
the
11.
A
Although
I
do
share
councillor
Dean's
Council
is
concerned
that
you
know
we're
going
to
get
to
a
scenario
where
we
need
to
manage
that
expectation
for
people
that
day
one
of
rail
were
not
suddenly
in
a
position
where
we
have
an
abundance
of
busses.
Now
that
can
fill
every
gap
and
address
every
issue.
So
you
know
I'm
hopeful
to
see
how
that
rolls
out
positively.
A
My
one
question
left
from
the
presentation
you
covered
all
the
others
was
you
know
you
did
articulate
that
it
was
a
bit
of
an
advancement
having
everything
integrated
in
the
TOC,
see
in
one
room
and
of
course
my
thoughts
immediately
went
to
what
happens
if
that
room
goes
down
so
I'm
sure
you've
got
a
redundancy
plan
for
that,
but
I'd
love
to
hear.
You
say
that
with.
B
D
Yes,
thank
you.
We've
covered
a
lot
of
the
big
questions,
but
this
one's
no
less
important.
You
know
that
I
both
been
asking
about
bird
friendly
status
of
the
glass
on
that
it
got
media
coverage
again
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
what
is
the
progress
on
I
suppose
whether
we
need
to
be
installing
decals
after
the
fact
on
some
glass
or
whether
we've
proactively
moved
to
glass?
That
won't
need
that
sort
of
after
that,
after
the
fact
treatment.
B
So,
as
a
counselor
through
mr.
mayor,
we
responded
to
I
apologize.
I
can't
remember
the
Association.
We
gave
them
our
similar
responses.
Mister
Crips
can
operate
in
a
moment,
and
so
it's
the
best
we
can
do
right
now.
You
know
to
be
candid:
I
don't
have
a
team
of
people
working
on
this
I.
Don't
it's
important,
but
it's
not
a
priority
right
now
in
terms
of
everything
else,
we
have
done
some
mitigation
measures
which
I'll
ask
say:
mister
Crips.
To
elaborate
on
that.
The
response
that
you
provided.
D
As
one
of
the
common
techniques
used
to
reduce
bird
strikes,
the
lighting
of
the
stations
is
designed
to
sort
of
minimize
minimize
the
attraction
of
birds,
the
overhead,
the
overhang
as
part
of
that
part
of
that
strategy
as
well
and
sort
of
minimizing
vegetation
in
the
substantial
vegetation
in
the
area
of
this
station
is
one
of
the
things
that
will
prevent
birds
from
nesting
in
that
area
and
then
sort
of
attracting
them
to
the
to
the
station.
So
off
the
top.
D
My
head,
they're
sort
of
the
main
the
main
strategies
that
that
are
commonly
in
use
center
use
on
this
system.
I
I
know
there
are
a
number
of
techniques
for
doing
it,
and
what
I
really
want
to
know
is
that
we're
not
digging
a
deeper
hole
so
to
speak,
that
work,
that
you
know
choosing
the
right
design,
as
with
the
glass
here,
looking
forward
to
future
phases
so
that
we
won't
have
added
expense
later.
D
D
You
mr.
mayor
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
mr.
mayor
Conan,
a
couple
of
questions
for
you,
the,
as
some
of
the
councillors
alluded
to
there's
concern
what
the
transit
system
is
its
operating.
Today,
we've
asked
a
lot
of
our
riders
to
be
patient
until
the
LRT
comes
in
one
of
the
messages
I
heard
from
your
staff
and
from
you
was
that
the
existing
buses
are
going
to
be
taken
out
of
service
like
they
haven't,
been
maintained
on
their
last
legs.
What's
the
status
of
those
buses
going
into
q2?
D
If
that's,
where
we're
waiting
for
the
end
of
q1,
will
those
buses
still
be
there
we're
going
to
if
we
slip
another
date?
Are
we
going
to
have
to
do
something
about
that,
because
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
councillor
Dean
subgroups
being
cancelled
on
these
old
buses
being
put
on
those
Roots
right
now
and
I'm
really
afraid
that
we're
not
going
to
have
something
with
fill
those
gaps?
That's.
B
A
great
question:
I
can
assure
you
that
we
are
making
our
fleet
count
every
single
day.
Mr.
Griggs
is
a
head
mechanic,
zoom
phenomenal
job,
and
it
is
a
challenging
job
because
those
vehicles
just
to
be
clear.
We
are
maintaining
them,
it
just
didn't,
have
their
mid
life
rehab
and
all
those
major
programs
reupholstering
and
all
that
done
to
them,
because
we
knew
they
were
end-of-life
and
when
we
heard
from
our
tgd
about
the
delay,
he
put
a
plan
in
place
to
ensure
that
those
vehicles
can
continue.
B
D
My
other
question
is
to
do
with
the
1
million
dollar
penalty
that
you
mentioned.
You
know
our
million
dollars
most
of
us
there's
a
lot
of
money,
but
in
the
scheme
of
this
contract
and
million,
really
isn't
that
much
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
it's
worked
at
all
is
any
kind
of
an
incentive
to
get
things
done.
Or
should
we
be
looking
at
in
the
next
contract
to
be
done
that
those
penalty
levels
would
be
much
higher
so.
B
Two
things
on
that:
just
a
reminder:
it's
a
p3
and
our
TG
is
also
not
getting.
Therefore,
million
dollars
a
month,
maintenance
payment
from
us
and
the
bunch
of
confidential
numbers
from
the
lenders
and
penalties
and
sub
penalties
worth
millions
of
dollars
that
they're
feeling
every
month
so
they're
incentivized
to
to
move
as
quickly
and
as
effectively
as
they
can
remembering
that
there's
a
30
year,
maintenance
agreement
that
they
get
so
they
want
to
build
the
system
because
I
get
this
question
also.
B
Well,
how
do
you
know
they're
not
going
to
you
know,
circumvent
and
lower
their
standards?
It's
not
in
their
best
interest
for
30
years,
with
another
billion
to
do
things
on
the
cheap
so
and
we
have
oversight
on
them
also.
But
the
other
thing
is
mr.
Swale
and
his
team
who
works
for
me
on
stage
two
he's
been
tasked
with
a
deep
dive
on
lessons
learned
from
stage
one.
B
We
heard
everyone
loud
and
clear
on
load,
you
do
differently
better
and
so
forth
and
when
he
brings
forward
that
report,
when
we
bring
into
that
stage
to
report,
you'll
see
a
whole
section
on
lessons
learned
on
how
we've
changed
things
in
terms
of
milestone,
payments
and
so
forth.
On
that
regard,
so
exactly
your
point
counselor.
What
do
we
learn
on
stage,
one
on
everything
from
design
to
administration,
the
contract
payments,
cash
flow
and
so
forth?
And
how
do
we
at
four
and.
B
D
You,
my
last
question,
is
to
do
with
the
preparations
that
you're
doing
for
the
launch.
I
can
visualize
the
loading
of
the
trains
going
relatively
smooth
because
big
doors
six
hundred
people
can
get
on
two
cars.
It
should
go
relatively
smooth.
The
unload,
however
I,
don't
visualize
as
going
quite
so
smooth
getting
those
six
hundred
people
onto
what
seven
double
decker,
so
it
and
get
those
double
deckers
out
of
wherever
the
train
stopped
is.
Is
there
going
to
be
actual
practice
done
of
the
load
and
unload
like
with
people?
D
B
That's
exactly
a
counselor
Dean's
is
point,
and-
and
it
goes
all
the
way
to
the
bus
issue-
also
so
two
things:
there's
fourteen
doors
in
these
trains-
a
lot
of
doors
for
that
in
a
note
movement
and
then
what
we
learn
through
the
focus
group
is
everyone
understood
because
of
the
frequency
of
service.
You
don't
have
to
panic.
If
you
miss
your
train,
you
wait
for
less
than
five
minutes.
The
next
train
will
come
what
the
focus
group
opened
their
eyes
to
is
my
connection
home
for
train
to
bus.
B
So
is
my
bus
going
to
be
waiting
there,
so
we
went
to
Montreal
and
other
is
like
Chicago
to
have
big
bus
transfers.
They've
done
some
very
of
things
on
signage
and
how
to
stage
those
buses
and
have
supervisory
staff
there
ready.
So
we're
not
concerned
about
the
loading
and
unloading
where
the
customers
have
told
us,
we've
heard
them
loud
and
clear
is:
will
my
bus
be
there
waiting
for
me
on
that
snowy
day
to
go
home,
so
we've
got
some
mitigation
measures
that
we've
implemented
that
we
hadn't
thought
about.
A
B
So
I,
you
know
back
to
our
saying
the
presentation.
Two
things
our
TG
owns
the
date.
It's
their
contract
and
they're
accountable
for
bringing
that
date
to
us
and
I
know
the
public
looks
through
the
city
and
saying
you
missed
the
date.
We
did
not
miss
the
date.
Rtg
missed
the
date
and
they're
being
penalized
accordingly
and
money
through
the
cash
flows
of
the
p3s
environment
and
so
forth.
B
What
we
don't
want
is
another
date
that
we
get
everybody
focused
on
and
then
it's
seen
as
a
failure
and
as
I've
said
in
some
of
my
media
interviews,
are
we
chasing
a
date?
Are
we
chasing
a
safe,
reliable
system
that
meets
the
2.1
billion
dollars?
That's
outlined
in
the
project
agreement
and
we've
been
relentless
with
our
tg2
saying
we're
not
changing
standards,
we're
not
changing
the
designs,
we're
not
changing
the
service
level.
B
Why
you're
converting
the
business
brt
day,
one
full
loads
to
LRT,
and
we
have
said
to
them
over
and
over
again
and
we're
now
meeting
the
city
manager
myself.
Mr.
crickshaw
meeting
with
the
executives
of
that
group
every
week
and
we've
said
you
give
us
a
date
when
you
can
prove
and
demonstrate
you
can
get
to
that
date.
B
Why
would
you
put
another
date
out
there
to
our
customers
when
we
don't
have
from
them
the
high
level
of
confidence
that
we
need
to
see
so
do
they
have
a
list
of
things
they
need
to
do
it's
the
last
slide,
those
seven
things
need
to
be
articulated
and
they
need
to
achieve
them
now.
If
I
walk
in
their
footsteps,
they
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
pass
trial
running
it.
B
If
they
don't
pass
trial
running,
they
can't
move
to
the
net
stays,
so
we've
been
diligent
with
them
on
saying
you
need
to
think
through
all
those
scenarios,
and
what
you
saw
today
is
increment
ality
in
terms
of
steps
moving
forward
that
they're
starting
to
get
into
that
zone.
That
I
said
I
wanted
to
see
from
a
testing
and
commissioning
just.
A
A
Can
you
just
give
any
more
details
on
the
ongoing
discussions
regarding
the
cost
recovery?
You
talked
about
the
memo
that
will
be
released
within
two
weeks
that
you've
been.
You
know
it's
five
months
now
and
to
cost
overruns.
How
have
the
discussions?
Even
preliminary
discussions
been
on
not
just
the
million
dollars
you
wanted
to
hold
back
on
the
next
payment,
but
the
millions
of
cost
overruns
that
we
do
want
to
recoup
going
forward.
Is
there
anything
that
you
can
share
with
the
committee?
Absolutely.
B
So
to
go
back,
you
recall,
we
brought
it
a
restated
transit
budget
based
on
November
2nd.
So
that's
how
the
books
are
aligned,
a
reminder.
We
have
all
the
cash
we
have
not
given
an
a
substantial
complainant
payment
and
there
are
safe
payments
with
mr.
crypts
two
hundred
and
two
hundred
and
sixty
one
million
dollars.
That's
what
we
hold.
They
have
not
seen
a
nickel
of
that
the
city
manager
has
been
crystal-clear.
B
B
The
integrated
city,
team
and
external
experts
are
doing
is
using
every
mechanism
through
the
project
agreement
to
recover
those
costs
and
we
are
tracking
all
of
those
and
we
have
to
do
the
forecast
which
missus
Similac
can
every
team
are
looking
at
because
you
recall
we
had
things
such
as
ridership
bump
for
for
2018
and
so
forth.
So
we're
tracking
all
those-
and
we
have
articulated
that
position
to
RTG.
A
Finally,
my
last
question:
on
the
lighter
note:
can
you
just
give
the
committee
an
update
on
Euler
discussions
with
potential
retailers
in
stations
you're
talking
about
busking
or
buskers?
Can
you
just
talk
about
the
livability
and
and
what
options
riders
will
be
able
to
get
in
each
station
or
in
the
main
stations,
at
least
to.
B
Councilor
I,
like
that
word
that
livability,
because
it's
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
with
some
small
retail
spaces
in
them
and
the
transit
industry
has
not
been
very
good
at
leveraging
those
assets.
So
we
we're
not
experts
in
that.
So
we've
gone
out
to
market
to
look
for
organizations
from
the
private
sector
that
can
can
come
up
with
those
spaces
and
we
said:
we've
been
where
they
are
innovative.
You
can
bring
national
international
companies
or
you
can
use
it
to
stimulate
local
businesses.
So
we've
talked
to
our
economic
and
development
group.
B
They're
part
of
the
review
team
buskers
will
be
licensing
buskers
within
the
stations
pop-ups
and
so
forth,
so
that
we
can
have
that
livability,
but
you
do
it
in
a
structured
format.
So
it's
welcoming
it's
safe.
It's
inclusive,
it's
reflective
of
your
community!
So
it's
not
about
chasing
the
money
in
terms
of
retail
spaces,
because
they're
very
small,
but
what
we've
said
is
a
minimum
threshold.
Is
it
can't
cost
us
any
money,
so
minimum
break-even?
And
then,
if
we
make
a
profit,
that's
a
bonus
on
that,
and
so
that's
I
believe
it's
out
to
market.
D
Just
say
nah
missing
a
longing
for
questions
were
answered,
but
it
was
one
that
touching
trust
is
in
transition
from
pemko.
Today,
you
too,
when
the
new
members,
when
the
sitting
on
any
mention
that
yes,
human
bein
contact,
will
tell
in
the
more
directly
made
us
a
cushion
and
an
ad
was
written
on
the
table,
eventful
late
numbers
to
members
that
will
not
be
with
the
next
committee
and
the
next
council.
So
really
lien
are
the
quorum
if
needed
implements
a
ancient
update
that
you
have
to
bring
forward
with
us
and
the
city
manager.
Also.
D
Apologize
for
mr.
mayor
the
way
the
schedule
is
currently
being
laid
out,
you
probably
would
not
have
a
standard,
effective
meeting
until
February.
Having
said
that,
if
it's
decided
in
December
that
counselor
does
establish
fedko
in
the
terms
of
reference,
don't
change,
then.
Yes,
you,
the
possibility
of
calling
an
earlier
meeting.
Okay.
A
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
good
morning,
just
a
couple
of
quick
questions.
I
know
a
lot
of
ground
has
been
covered,
but
returning
for
a
moment
to
the
revenue
service
availability
day,
I
recall
when
we
were
discussing
the
RSA
date
last
year
or
earlier
in
the
year
I've
been
anticipating.
That
was
May,
24th,
don't
know
if
that
date
is
exactly
right.
A
Mr.
Mahoney
talked
about
how
the
revenue
service
availability,
didn
t
equal
the
time
when
the
trains
would
actually
be
running,
that
there
would
be
a
period
of
I
think
it
was
a
number
of
weeks
four
to
six
weeks
or
something
that
LC
transyl
would
have
ownership
of
the
system,
but
would
need
to
run
its
own
testing,
and
so
just
for
clarity's
sake.
When
we
talk
about
q1
2019,
that's
the
revenue
service
availability
date
will
take
place
in
q1.
I
think
is
what
mr.
McCarney
is
saying.
B
Yes,
it's
a
good
question.
Our
position
has
been
and
continues
to
be,
once
we
have
the
RSA
date.
Occ
Transpo
needs
between
seven
and
ten
days
to
do
some
final
operational
things,
and
then
we
could
launch
service
and
bus
service
for
about
three
weeks
in
the
event
that
there's
issues
on
the
system.
So
it's
a
safeguard
to
the
operation,
so
that
continues
to
be
the
plan,
so
once
you
get
RSA
to
achieve
it,
we
can
then
look
to
about
seven
to
ten
days
through
to
get
into
launch
mode.
Okay,.
A
D
A
D
A
D
Would
really
be
up
to
RTG
to
determine
that
provide
those
dates
to
us
they
contractually.
They
need
to
give
us
a
countdown
notice
to
to
RSA
they're
sorry
to
substantial
completion,
and
then
they
need
to
give
us
ten
days
notice
of
substantial
completion
once
that
is
achieved.
Trial
running
can
happen
once
that
is
achieved
according
to
the
project
agreement.
Rsa
can
be
achieved
after
that,
so
the
time
the
timing
in
there
is
variable
it
could
be
in
the
original.
D
D
B
Direction
we're
taking
okay
and,
as
I've
said,
it
doesn't
mean
that
RTG
is
going
to
be
accepting
a
patent.
They
won't
challenge
us
on
that,
and
that
will
have
is
talking
about
the
pros
and
cons
of
that.
So
there's
always
a
risk
with
those
things,
but
that
is
the
direction
from
the
city
manager
quit.
B
Not
there
yet
it's
if
the
concept
is
that
we're
deducting
it
from
those
payments
rather
than
having
to
chase
them
for
the
money,
but
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
to
all
this
there's
it's
it's
it's
complicated
in
terms
of
collecting
all
the
costs
and
looking
at
the
pros
and
the
cons
and
that
legal
analysis,
and
obviously
we
don't
want
to
be
doing
this
in
a
public
forum
forum
in
terms
of
what
those
pros
and
cons
are.
That's
it
Thank
You.
Mr.
mayor.
A
Kelso
blade
please
thank
you
very
much
mr.
mayor
and
thank
you
mr.
Mann
Konya
and
mr.
Hurst
I
think
this
by
far
the
most
positive
presentation
we've
had
on
LRT
in
quite
some
time.
So
thank
you
for
your
your
efforts
on
that
I
want
to
focus
on
the
customer
experience
a
little
bit.
These
technical
details
are
important,
obviously,
but
I
trust
that
we
have
the
capacity
internally
to
deal
with
them
over
the
coming
months,
but
as
a
customer
who's
anticipating
this
new
thing
that
we're
getting
right.
A
This,
the
new
car
that
we're
about
to
get
I
know
that
we
have
the
ready
for
whale
campaign,
and
you
know
that's
been
on
ice
for
a
bit
as
a
result
of
the
delays.
When
would
we
expect
do
we
need
an
RSA
date
to
go
to
the
next
steps
of
that
campaign?
Or
can
we
do
some
of
that
work
without
knowing
the
RSA
date?
As
an
example?
Do
technically,
could
we
say
today,
council,
a
you
live
in
this
part
of
Orleans
if
you
were
to
get
on
your
bus
at
7:30
when
the
Train
opens?
B
And
we're
thinking
through
exactly
that,
it's
a
great
point:
the
team
that's
on
this
is
looking
at.
What
can
we
put
out
there
without
causing
I?
Don't
want
to
put
something
out
there
than
have
to
retract
it?
Exactly
to
your
point,
I
think,
there's
some
of
that
we
can
put
out
there.
We
are
waiting
for
the
ax
access
to
the
stations
to
do
some
video
footage,
because
that's
also
very
good.
Then
we
pump
that
out
through
your
various
Twitter
feeds
and
so
forth.
We
had
a
very
good
discussion.
B
We
want
to
do
some
customer
focus
group
testing
on
that
and
the
challenge
with
that
is,
you
could
launch
it,
but
then
all
your
lutes
and
in
place
so
until
you
have
that
date,
so
it
yes
to
some
of
that
and
I
think
we
can
do
some
some
of
those
in
increments,
but
where
the
good
news
is
were
ready
to
go
once
we
know
what
that
RSA
did
is
to
take
care
of
the
customer,
because
I
gave
100%
it's
about
wrapping
the
service
around
that
the
customer.
It's
about.
A
Excellent
and
and
just
on
the
notification
periods
so
between
now
and
January
2nd,
we
expect
RTG
to
give
us
some
kind
of
new,
revised
RSA
date
and
we'll
either
accept
it
or
not.
If
they
were
to
come
back
and
say:
okay,
the
date
is
20
days
from
now.
That
seems
like
a
short
notice.
Look.
What
is
the
minimum
amount
of
time?
They
need
they're
required
to
give
us
and
what
is
our
view
on
I
guess
what
would
be
the
decision
making
matrix
on
whether
we
think
that's
a
good
date
from
a
customer
experience?
A
Point
of
view
like
do
we
want
to
start
running
this
on
the
third
week
of
February?
I
guess
is
what
I
was
what
I'm
getting
at
and
who
would
that
be
a
report
to
committee
to
say
these
are
your
options
or
is
that
something
that
we've
already
delegated
authority
to
you
to
do?
Can
you
maybe
walk
us
through
that?
So.
B
I'll,
let
mr.
Crips
speak
to
the
mechanics
of
the
contractual
obligations
a
moment,
but
to
your
point
of
when's
a
good
date.
We
have
a
whole
matrix
scenario
of
what
day
of
the
week,
with
date
a
month
we
have
to
a
transition
employees
through
booking
operations.
We
have
to
transition
the
customers
where
their
quarterly
bus
changes.
So
it's
not
just
they
can
throw
a
dart
and
pick
a
date
and
we
accept
it.
B
B
It's
very
complex
for
our
customers,
because
they're
going
through
the
most
significant
change
ever
so
we
layer
on
all
those
pieces
to
that,
and
they
can't
just
pick
a
date
and
we
say:
Nelly
agree
with
it
of
that,
so
they
had
their
eyes
opened
in
terms
of
the
complex.
Shall
I
ask
mr.
crepes
to
share
with
you
the
contract
piece.
D
B
Yes,
you
and
all
these
ten
counselors
have
certainly
talked
to
me
about
that.
There's
a
another
integrated
team,
as
looking
at
it
unpacking
all
the
detours
remember
to
work
going
into
them.
We
have
to
put
them
all
back
out,
undo
them
and
the
mission
I've
given
mr.
Landry
is:
is
there
a
way
to
make
that
ramp
the
first
to
be
released?
I
can't
guarantee
you
that
when
I
fill
she's
very
meticulous
on
those
things,
there's
a
lot
of
rules
with
em
tear
that
we
need
to
follow
and
so
forth.
B
We
need
the
buses
totally
out
of
that
lane.
So
it's
at
the
top
of
the
list,
but
I
can't
have
the
mixed
traffic
of
that
interchange,
because
MTA
won't
permit
that,
and
we
certainly
wouldn't
encourage
that
you'd
be
a
risk.
It
is
at
the
top
of
the
list
in
terms
of
priorities.
We
understand
the
impact
to
your
GM
community
and
you've
all
spoken
to
me
about
it.
You
have
councilor
breakouts
from
Annette
message
received
and.
A
A
Now,
so
people
ask
me
every
day
Oh
one's
it
open
air,
they
can
move
the
pylons
inside
the
traffic
flowing
and
I
have
to
say
here
they
pump
the
brakes
went
not
quite
there
yet,
and
it
would
be
really
great
to
go
back
and
give
them
an
update
within
my
community.
So
thank
you
very
much
right.
Well,
thank
you
very
much
mr.
crypts
and
mr.
Mahoney
for
a
very
thorough
update.
A
lot
of
work
has
been
done
since
we
last
met
I.
A
Think
the
video
overwhelmingly
positive
tweets
from
people
were
very
excited
about
seeing
the
stations
and
and
going
from
end
to
end
so
obviously
we're
down
to
the
crunch
time,
and
we
very
much
appreciate
all
the
long
hours
you
and
your
team
have
been
putting
in
to
this
particular
project
which,
as
we
all
know,
is
the
largest
infrastructure
project
in
our
city's
history.
So,
thank
you
for
a
job
well
done.