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Planning Committee - Meeting of Thursday, September 24, 2020 – Video Stream
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D
A
E
E
A
E
Absolutely
except
you
heard
them,
they
opened
with
I'm
down,
and
so
you
heard
them
say
I'm
down
and
then
it
just
went
crazy,
but
I've
never
been.
I
don't
think
that
you
know
before
then,
definitely
and
since
then,
in
a
situation
of
that
kind
of
power.
If
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about
sure,
I
saw
a
cream
as
well.
A
lot
of
people
couldn't
say
that
massey
hall
in
toronto,
I
think
I
was
grade
12
or
something
anyway
enough
about
us
in
music.
E
F
E
B
E
Thank
you
good
morning,
everyone.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
one
and
three
on
today's
agenda
for
the
items
just
mentioned.
Only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
appeal
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
appeal
tribunal.
E
If
council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
zoning
and
120
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments
prior
to
their
consideration
by
city
council
on
october
14th,
please
email
or
call
the
committee
or
council
coordinator,
our
lovely
coordinator
is
melody.
Definitely,
and
so
thank
you.
Everyone
for
today,
councillor
moffat,
have
texted
me
to
say
that
he's
running
a
little
late,
so
he'll
be
joining
us
shortly.
I
don't
have
any
other
regrets.
E
E
E
E
Okay,
so
the
first
item
which
we
will
hold
because
we
have
speakers-
was
a
deferral
from
quite
a
while
back
months
ago,
the
zoning
changes
to
regulate
residential
development
in
the
urban
area
inside
the
green
belt.
As
I
said,
we
have
speakers
and
we
will
have
a
brief
presentation
to
update
us
on
that.
E
E
E
D
Yes,
so
for
1
12
nelson
street
clarification
of
zoning
details,
whereas
the
report
recommends
zoning
changes
to
the
lands
known
municipally
as
112
nelson
street
by
adding
a
holding
provision
contingent
on
entering
into
entering
into
a
registration
of
a
section,
37
agreement
and
whereas
the
land
shown
in
document
1f
use
the
existing
zoning
on
the
property
as
ig1h11
and
whereas
the
intent
of
this
report
is
to
rezone
the
lands
to
add
a
holding
symbol.
In
addition
to
the
zoning
details
contained
in
the
report,
as
approved
by
council
on
july
11
2018,
therefore
be
resolved.
D
The
planning
committee
recommend
to
council
that
the
following
changes
be
made
to
the
staff
report
that
the
document
1f
be
replaced
with
the
following
map
that
the
zoning
details
in
document
2
dealing
with
112
nelson
street
be
replaced
with
the
following
reason.
The
lands
is
shown
in
document
1f
and
add
the
provisions
as
detailed
in
the
report.
E
D
E
E
E
A
Thanks
and
I
believe
it's
an
item-
that's
going
to
come
to
planning
committee,
I
had
asked
at
city
council,
I
put
forward
an
inquiry
with
respect
to
development
charges
in
after
the
fact,
conversions
and
whether
or
not
those
are
being
collected
and
and
billed
for
I'm
just
wondering
when
we
can
expect
an
answer
to
that.
One.
E
E
C
I
really
need
to
acknowledge
the
collaborative
efforts
of
both
the
goba
uic
council
and
fca,
particularly
the
last
few
months
in
resolving
a
number
of
very
sticky
issues
that
were
holding
us
back
from
moving
this
forward
and
that
that
emphasis
can't
be.
I
can't
emphasize
that
enough.
That
kind
of
collaborative,
constructive
work
really
is
the
way
to
go
moving
forward.
So
I
really
appreciate
those
efforts.
This
is
a
major
piece.
This
is
a
pretty
substantial
piece
as
we
move
forward.
C
We
all
recognize
that
we
have
significant
infill
and
intensification
pressures
coming
forward
and
what
this
piece
of
work
does
is
this
works
to
balance,
how
infill
is
going
to
land
in
our
neighborhoods
and
sets
the
stage
for
how
development
will
occur
going
forward?
So,
let's,
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we
all
highlight
that
as
much
as
we
passed
r4
yesterday,
which
moved
forward
with
low-rise
apartments.
C
This
report
is
also
very
tightly
integrated
with
what
was
passed
at
council
yesterday
and
there
is
an
awful
lot
of
synergy
between
these
two
reports
and
there
will
be
synergy
between
other
reports
going
forward.
These
are
all
interconnected
with
a
number
of
other
significant
city
initiatives.
So
again,
I
really
want
to
appreciate
all
the
collaborative
effort
that
has
moved
forward.
H
Thank
you
david
good
morning,
madam
chair
and
members
of
committee
looks
like
my
presentation.
Slides
are
coming
up
right
there
perfect,
so
in
monitoring
the
infield
rules
that
were
that
came
into
force
in
effect,
in
2015
and
2016,
we
saw
the
concerns
that
still
come
up
generally
fall
into
one
of
three
major
categories.
H
H
Please
thank
you.
So
the
major
focus
of
these
changes
down
to
two
words
landscaping
first,
so
what
that
means
is
in
every
front
yard.
There
is
a
minimum
required
soft
landscaped
area
which
must
be
aggregated,
and
so,
in
addition
to
being
aggregated,
it
must
above
the
front
lock
line
so
that
it
essentially
can
also
contribute
to
the
landscaping
of
the
right-of-way.
This
can
be
anywhere
depending
on
the
lot
width
from
30
to
40
other
major
changes,
restrictions
on
driveway
widths.
H
Presently
we
do
have
restrictions
on
driveway
widths
that
apply
to
the
older
neighborhoods.
What
we
refer
to
as
mature
neighborhoods
overlay.
We
are
now
expanding
those
same
restrictions
to
all
wards
inside
the
green
belt,
where
presently
there's
there's
a
maximum
driveway
width
that
can
go
as
high
as
half
of
the
lot.
We
are
imposing
some
restrictions
on
that
walkways,
so
we
have
rules
on
walkways
here
which
will
essentially
limit
their
width
and
ensure
that
they
are
used
for
what
they're
actually
intended
to
be
used.
H
So
not
significant
surfacing
area
is
not
something
that
can
be
used
as
an
illegal
parking
area
rules
for
garages
so
essentially
ensuring
that
when
an
infill
contains
a
garage,
the
pedestrian
front
entrance,
the
main
front
entrance
is
still
emphasized
and
more
important
within
the
mature
neighborhoods.
The
streetscape
character
analysis
process
that
is
required
within
phil
has
been
revised,
essentially
to
be
simpler
and
easier
for
both
builders
and
staff
to
to
manage
in
fact,
next
slide.
H
Please
thank
you
in
terms
of
what
has
changed
between
when
this
was
presented
in
may
and
now.
First
of
all,
driveways
will
continue
to
be
permitted
on
lots
between
six
meters
and
seven
meters
in
width.
Originally,
it
was
going
to
be
prohibited
below
seven.
There
were
a
number
of
concerns
raised
with
driveways,
but
at
this
point
we
do
acknowledge
that
the
landscape
burst
can
be
met
on
that
width.
Balconies
will
be
permitted
to
project
up
to
1.2
meters
on
shallow
lots
below
about
100
feet
in
depth.
H
Basically,
staff
I
think,
recognize
that
the
need
for
outdoor
amenity
spaces
with
units,
particularly
in
the
age
of
of
covet
19
and
physical,
distancing,
ensuring
that
there's
that
outdoor
amenity
space
available.
So
that's
that's,
going
to
be
primitive.
There
permitted
projections
can
be
based
off
the
provided
setback
for
existing
homes,
so
essentially,
what
this
means
is
homes
that
have
been
constructed
legally
before
the
infill
bylaws
that
are
set
back
closer
than
what
we
require
today,
they're
still
permitted
to
add
things
like
decks
and
and
porches
to
a
certain
extent.
H
So
when
we
put
that
all
together,
what
we're
expecting
to
see
from
this
is
improved
infill
design,
greater
focus
on
soft
landscaping
and
space
for
larger
and
healthier
trees,
reduced
emphasis
on
the
car
and
hard
surfaces
and
putting
that
all
together,
better
and
more
context-sensitive
and
fill
in
in
existing
neighborhoods.
Thank
you
very
much.
E
A
Thanks
chair
and
yes,
I
do
have
a
motion
with
respect
to
balconies
the
rear
yard
balconies
that
are
on
substandard
louds,
so
lots
that
are
less
than
23.5
meters.
We
want
to
ensure
that
on
rel
you
know
very
shallow
lots
that
balconies
don't
project
into
the
area
that
should
be
green
space.
I'm
going
to
skip
the
warehouses
on
this,
but
therefore
be
it
resolved.
A
The
planning
committee
recommended
council
to
amend
the
document,
section
65
table
65
row,
6
to
read
in
the
r1
r2
r3
and
r4
zones
within
area,
a
of
schedule,
342
1
6a
applies
and
two
on
a
lot
with
a
depth
of
between
23.5
and
30.5
meters,
where
the
rear
lot
line
of
butts
in
r1r234
zone.
The
maximum
projection
is
2
meters
at
or
below
the
first
floor
and
1.2
meters
above
the
first
floor,
where
a
lot
has
a
depth
of
23
and
a
half
meters
or
less
the
maximum
projection
is
zero
meters.
A
Four.
In
all
other
cases,
the
maximum
projection
is
two
meters:
five,
where
a
deck
or
balcony
occurs
above
the
first
floor
and
is
within
1.5
meters
of
an
exterior,
sidewall
or
interior
sidewall
lot
line
of
a
residential
zone
lot
to
1.5
meter.
High
opaque
screen
is
to
be
provided
facing
the
interior
side
lot
and
be
it
resolve
that
there'd
be
no
further
notice
pursuant
to
section
3417
of
the
planning
act.
My
my
understanding
is
that
this
is
something
that
folks
have
collaborated
on
and
has
staff
support.
C
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
counselors.
The
federation
of
citizens.
Association
fca,
is
pleased
to
have
participated
in
the
infill
addendum
and
to
provide
comments
over
the
years.
As
you
are
aware,
neighborhoods
manner
for
all
members
and
community
associations
as
volunteers
and
committed
participants
in
the
planning
process.
We
know
our
communities
and
have
a
vested
interest
in
future
development
and
changes
that
will
affect
our
neighborhoods.
G
All
of
you
are
aware
of
the
real
projections
balconies
issue:
the
current
buy
law,
profits
them
on
lots.
Less
than
30
meters
in
depth
and
staff
acknowledged
that
the
original
intent
was
the
standard
100
feet
lot
and
that
there
was
a
conversion
error
from
imperial
measurements
to
metric
ones
were
made.
G
Despite
the
original
intent
staff
opinion
changed
to
allow
reduced
with
projections
of
1.2
meter
to
be
allowed
on
all
knots,
30.5
meters
or
less
the
newest
motion
from
jeff
lieber,
just
tabled
of
profiting
them
on
lots
less
than
23
and
a
half
meters
is
the
right
direction.
But
it's
not
enough.
In
our
opinion,
juliet
or
recess
balconies
will
be
a
better
option
to
preserve
much
needed
rear
yard
green
space.
G
G
E
Counselor
fleury,
I'm
do
you
have
questions
for
mr
brinker,
or
do
you
just
want
to
be
first
on
the
list?
First
on
the
list
after
all
right,
so,
mr
brinker,
thank
you
very
much,
and
I
appreciate
you
coming
out
today.
Thank
you,
murray
towns,
up
next
chair
of
the
infield
council
for
goba,
the
greater
ottawa
homebuilders
association
murray.
I
saw
you
there.
F
F
E
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
committee
members
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
Our
lead
of
planning
and
city
issues
wasn't
available,
so
I
happily
stood
in
I've
been
a
new
resident
of
qtn
for
about
15
months,
and
I've
personally
noticed
so
my
job.
I
had
some
draw
draw
dropping
field
projects
which
I
think
reinforced
the
position
that
our
committee,
our
land
and
planning
committee,
took
that
we
sent
on
to
the
city
this
week.
J
J
If
you
refer
to
pages
two
and
three
in
our
formal
submission
you'll
see
a
couple
of
examples
of
this,
where
we'd
certainly
like
to
see
that
that
sort
of
outcome
avoided
in
the
future.
We
also
see
a
lot
of
significant
loss
of
green
space
in
tree
canopy,
which
ultimately
means
more
rain.
Wear
off
that
contributes
to
multi-million
dollar
sewer
upgrades
we'll
eventually
have
to
pay
for
an
issue
around
lack
of
snow
for
snow
removal
means
people
are
pushing
more
snow
into
the
streets
and,
as
you
know,
several
streets
in
qtn
don't
have
sidewalks.
J
That
said,
in
short,
we
sort
of
we
certainly
understand
the
need
for
intensification,
but
how
it's
unfolding
is
qtn
in
qtn
is
feeling
stronger
opposition
and
a
real
lack
of
confidence
in
the
ability
of
the
city
of
bottler.
To
get
this
right,
it's
it's.
You
know
increasingly,
given
this
cova
situation,
we're
all
spending
a
lot
more
time
walking
the
streets
through
the
day.
I
see
people
going
by
all
the
time.
J
Like
multiple
times
more
of
our
residents
are
taking
notice
of
active
projects
that
are
going
to
the
committee
of
adjustment
now
we'd
urge
committee
members
to
approve
the
proposes
these
proposed
amendments
and
give
our
community
some
hope
during
what
our
pretty
stressful
times.
In
our
you
know,
the
old
adage,
our
home,
is
our
castle.
J
J
Changes
are
also
needed
in
the
planning
process
to
respect
and
give
greater
weight
to
the
character
of
individual
neighborhoods
and
to
work
with
residents
and
community
organizations
such
as
qtn's
association
to
see
soft
infrastructure
that
is
essential
for
the
well-being
of
more
densely
populated
areas
in
qtn
we've
also,
we've
seen
building
permits
being
granted
for
projects
that
don't
fit
current
zoning
rules.
Variances
are
easily
approved
by
the
committee
without
considering
the
cumulative
impacts,
which
then
become
precedence
for
approving
more
of
the
same
footprint
that
was
supposed
to
be
an
exception.
J
If
you
go
to
attachment
one
or
submission,
if
you
look
at
alpine
over
a
three
year
period
alpine
avenue
over
three
year
period,
you'll
note
what
we're
talking
about
it
really
does
change
and
ultimately
transform
a
neighborhood
there's
a
great
feature
in
google
maps.
If
you
ever
noticed,
they
they're
they're,
storing.
E
J
D
J
And
see
these
changes
so
ultimately,
the
proposed
changes
to
the
zoning
are
absolutely.
There
is
another
fix
to
what
we
think.
What
we
see
is
a
problematic
approach
to
intensification
in
closing
the
qcn
association
hopes.
The
official
upcoming
official
plan
will
include
broader
approaches
to
smart
intensification
that
give
greater
weight
to
the
character
of
individual
neighborhoods
in
the
planning
process.
E
C
E
I
I
And
then
people
are
are
frustrated.
I'll.
Ask
staff
about
that,
because
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
your
your
feed
on
that,
because
it's
been
a
frustration
because
they
may
have
had
followed
just
the
rules,
but
then
the
resident
will
add
landscaping
or
lock
up
and-
and
we
have
more
complications.
J
Oh,
your
response,
absolutely
yeah.
There's,
certainly
you
know
the
notion
of
partially
complete
landscaping,
and
I
think
it
just
boils
down
to
pure
ignorance,
and
I
don't
mean
that
in
a
negative
way,
two
people
just
don't
know
the
rules
they're
either
you
know
lay
persons
or
not
contractors,
and
you
know
think
that
yeah,
I
hate
grass
I'll
paint
the
whole
front
lawn
or
I'll
put
in
soft
skating.
That
really
stretches
the
definition.
J
I
think
we've
had
examples
where
we've
called
bylaw
and
had
to
actually
you
know
people
were
parking
on
this
softscaping
and
they
had
to
redo
the
work.
So
there's
no
question:
there's
either
you
know
a
willful
disregard
for
the
rules
or
just
ignorance
of
them,
and
when
we
talk
about
renewal
and
smart
intensification
and
focus
on
process,
maybe
there's
some
more
clever
things.
We
can
do
to
reinforce
that.
You
can't
just
you
know,
willfully
do
about
do
what
you
will
with
the
property.
Perhaps
on
title
change
you
get.
I
Yeah,
because
I'm
finding
that
people
are
now
having
to
report
in
and
nobody
wants
to
be,
the
snitch
it
should
have
been
dealt
with
but
yeah.
So
we
need
something
there
that
reminds
people
that
they
can't
go
beyond
what
and
have
a
really
good
idea
of
what
what
the
rules
are,
and
so
you
don't
have
to
have
neighbors
fighting
neighbors,
that's
been
a
concern.
I
Qtn
is
particularly
interesting
as
well,
because
you
don't
have
very
many
sidewalks
and
also
ditches,
which
is
a
drainage
issue.
So
drainage
is
really
important,
and
I
know
that
qtn
has
also
been
very
passionate
about
the
tree
bylaw
and
frankly,
it's
something
that
I
felt
just
fueled.
The
reason
why
we
need
to
change
when
we
needed
to
change
the
tree
by
law
when
I
saw
it's
always
after
the
fact
that
you
find
out
about
a
tree
going
down
and
even
though
a
developer
may
have
said
that
they'll
save
the
tree.
H
I
Our
rules
that
gave
us
any
ability
to
to
make
them
do
so
and,
and
that's
been
a
concern
as
well,
so
the
soft
landscaping
is
more
than
just
a
pretty
piece
of
grass.
It's
it's
important
to
have
for
for
trees
with
is
so.
Do
you
find
that
that's
important
that
the
tree
bylaw
is
an
important
partner
in
this
presentation
as
well?
It.
J
Would
be
great
if
it
could
be
cross-referenced
in
the
code.
We
certainly
have
friends
in
vancouver
that
are
absolutely
fearful
of
touching
trees.
It's
the
fines
are
so
steep
that
individual
homeowners
and
developers
do
pay
attention
to
those
rules,
because
it's
an
exorbitant
amount.
So
we've
certainly
seen
and
again
go
back
to
google
maps
and
slide
the
time
scale.
You
will
see
the
trees
that
have
come
down.
It's
it's
all
there
in
black
and
white,
and
I
can
count
a
number
of
current
projects
underway
where
the
three
escapes
gone.
J
There
is
even
one
that's
under
variance
of
review
right
now,
there's
seven
feet
of
missing
space
on
the
side:
lots
that's
a
whole
basketball
player.
By
the
way
there
was
even
there's
one
tree
on
the
neighbor's
property
hung
over
and
it
was
locked
down
now
whether
and
if
the
developer
and
home
new
owner
had
permission
for
that.
B
B
B
We
are
here
to
support
the
intent
of
the
staff
report
and
the
provisions
as
they
pertain
to
our
communities
lot
fabric,
since
they
addressed
some
of
the
remaining
outstanding
issues
that
previously
have
been
identified
by
staff
for
correction.
We
agree
with
the
fca
comments
on
rear
yard
balcony
on
our
100
foot.
Deep
lots
certainly
balcony
projection.
Then
privacy
issues
have
been
mentioned
in
a
number
of
cases.
B
B
Motion
for
smaller
lots,
we've
directly
experienced
many
of
the
problems,
as
described
by
andy
church,
especially
on
our
r2
side,
where
subdivision
of
50
by
100
watts
to
build
semi-detached
homes
has
been
going
at
a
great
rate.
The
provisions
respond
to
the
climate
emergency
by
helping
to
make
residential
neighborhoods
more
resilient
to
climate
change.
B
The
current
recommendation
for
aggregated
soft
landscaping
will
address
many
of
the
issues
that
we
have
seen
where
front
yards,
especially
on
our
most
intensified
street,
which
is
carlton,
which
is
my
street.
I
live
in
the
midst
of
it.
We
have
a
very
short
depth
of
right
of
way
and
we're
seeing
a
huge
loss
of
tree,
canopy
and
opportunities
for
gardens
and
soft
landscaping
and
permeability,
snow
storage,
etc.
B
We
certainly
are
very
supportive
of
the
inclusion
in
the
staff
report
of
specific
guidance
to
be
provided
to
the
committee
of
adjustment
on
minor
variance
review.
This
is
one
of
the
areas
on
which
this
by-law
will
either
be
well
implemented
or
in
which
it
will
fail,
and
that's
been,
a
community
concern
all
along
and
the
other
thing
we
we
would
like
to
emphasize
in
that
has
been
mentioned
by
councillor
kavanaugh
and
I
believe
by
andy
church
is
the
importance
of
enforcement.
B
We
have
seen
the
same
things
that
andy
has
mentioned
where
either
the
the
the
soft
landscaping
is
not
done.
According
to
the
plans
on
file
and
the
inspectors
are
not
catching
it
or
the
new
owners
move
in,
and
maybe
the
developer
has
yeah,
the
developer
may
have
done
what
was
required,
but
the
new
owners
change
it
again.
It's
is
it.
Is
it
the
neighbors
versus
neighbor
and
community
association
versus
neighbor,
or
can
the
city
be
more
proactive
in
ensuring
that
all
of
this
is
well
implemented?
A
You
know
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
quick
comment
to
say
thank
you
very
much,
lynn
for
the
work
that
you
and
heather
are
doing.
There
is
probably
no
more
a
sophisticated
community
association
with
respect
to
infill
than
the
champlain
park.
Community
association-
I
know
you
and
murray-
are-
are
well
acquainted
and
I
appreciate
the
the
collaborations
that
occur
between
developers
and
the
community
in
champlain
park,
and
I
I
hope
that
my
colleagues
hear
the
the
the
message
you
have
that
this
is
a
positive
direction
for
our
infill
rules.
A
It's
never
going
to
be
quite
what
the
community
is
seeking,
because
there
is
compromises
that
need
to
be
made,
but
the
fact
that
you
are
largely
in
favor
of
these
this
new
direction
is
is
encouraging,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
continued
work.
We've
been
doing
this
for
years
and
keep
doing
it.
Thank
you.
E
Well
sad,
I
mean
I
I
it
was
lovely
to
see
you
lynn,
but
heather
is
one
of
our
most
common
folks
to
come
out
and
speak
on
community
issues.
So
it's
a
a
double
whammy
for
the
two
of
you
to
be
so
engaged
and
I
think
that's
probably
why
your
community
association
is
so
strong
on
these
issues.
So,
thank
you
very
much.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
of
staff
on
this
item?
K
Thanks
for
this,
so
I
want
to
thank
the
entire
team
beth
david
and
robert
robert
and
I
robert
was
the
development
review
officer
downstairs
for
a
number
of
years,
so
he's
seen
specifically
my
concerns
firsthand
in
sandy
hill
over
the
years
and
what
what
what
a
journey
it's
been
on
that
front.
You
know
as
much
as
I
couldn't
support
the
r4
yesterday
as
much
as
I.
K
I
know
that
our
planning
staff
understand
the
wide
range
of
issues
and
and
to
me
today's
report
is
a
a
sign
of
that,
so
I
want
to
raise
a
couple
of
elements
going
forward
just
to
understand
the
process.
So
once
this
report
is
approved,
when
do
these
measures
apply
and
then
can
you
maybe
speak
to
this
is
a
planning
report,
but
a
lot
of
the
infills,
don't
necessarily
make
it
to
planning
to
planning
approval.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
I
mean
these.
These
are
intended
to
come
into
effect
like
as
of
as
of
the
date
council
adopts
them,
and
they
will
apply
across
all
wards
inside
the
green
belt
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
doing
as
this
moves
forward
is.
We
do
intend
to
engage
with
development,
review
staff,
building
code,
services,
staff
and
bylaw
services
with
respect
to
ensuring
compliance,
ensuring
everyone
understands
like
what
the
new
rules
are
going
forward.
K
I
I
get
what
you're
saying
generally,
but
I
just
specifically:
how
do
we
make
sure
that
committee
of
adjustment
doesn't
wave
some
of
these
or
that
you
know
building
code
authorities
are
limited
to
building,
yet
these
have
wider
implication
and
not
every
application
makes
it
into
planning's
hands.
So
just
want
to
understand
the
enforceability
of
of
the
intent
here.
C
I'm
chair,
I
think
it's
really
important
to
appreciate
that
this
is
not
a
suggestion.
Now.
This
is
now
the
law,
so
once
this
is
enacted,
it
is
now
the
law
that
you
need
to
follow.
So
when
building
code
is
reviewing
a
permit,
this
will
now
be
the
measure
of
zoning
compliance
when
development
review
is
reviewing
an
application,
it
is
now
this
that
is
now
what
you
need
to
move
your
way
from
now.
C
One
of
the
things
that
we've
been
very
careful
about
is
to
make
sure
that
that
planning
report
specifies
what
the
intent
of
this
bylaw
is,
which
is
landscaping
first,
and
that
will
be
communicated
very
clearly
through
the
training
materials
that
we
will
be
providing
to
development
review
and
to
the
committee
of
adjustment
staff,
and
we
will
also
be
making
sure
as
well
too,
that
that
moves
forward.
We
are
also
looking
at
an
integrated
training
regime
with
our
natural
systems.
C
Colleagues,
as
they
roll
out
the
urban
tree
bylaws
as
well
too,
and
with
our
infrastructure
colleagues
as
well
too,
as
we
as
we
move
forward
with
understanding
where
service
laterals
and
things
like
that
go.
So
this
is
a
one
city,
one
team
effort.
This
is
something
that
we
consider
to
be
very
important
and
we
will
be
moving
forward
all
the
way
across
the
board
on
making
sure
that
this
stays
a
priority,
and
everyone
understands
why
we've
done
this.
But
again
this
will
be
the
law.
C
K
And
I
thank
you
for
that.
That's
good
to
put
to
record
and
be
clear
on
appreciate
that
my
my
only
outstanding
question
is
about
the
changes
to
permitting
driveways
in
in
six
meter.
Lots
and
I
recognize
the
negotiations
and
compromise
that
need
to
to
happen
to
get
overall
support
for
for
these
types
of
reports.
But
I
look
to
lower
town.
K
For
example,
lower
town
has
towns
like
side
by
side
continuously,
with
no
curb
cuts
and
and
tenants
or
owners,
basically
buy
a
parking
pass
and
and
park
on
street
and
there's
very
little
issue,
and
so
I
wonder
in
the
infill
environment,
why
do
we
continue
to
offer
and
support
curb
cuts?
Just
from
a
policy
point
of
view,
when
we
have
examples
like
lower
town,
where
you
know
it
it
works,
you
know
I
could
live
in
a
in
an
area.
Have
a
car
leave.
C
Madame
chair,
the
part
within
lower
town,
specifically,
that
is
also
captured
as
part
of
the
mature
neighborhoods
overlay
and
so
a
key
part
of
the
revision
that
we're
doing
to
the
streetscape
character.
Analysis
is
whether
or
not
there
are
garages
on
the
front
facade
and
if
the
character
of
that
street
is
there
are
no
garages
on
that
front
facade,
then
the
developer
or
the
applicant
is
going
to
have
to
find
another
place
to
park
their
car
with
respect
to
the
the
driveways
between
six
and
seven
meters.
C
Staff
does
continue
to
have
some
concerns
as
part
of
the
compromise,
where
murray
noted
that
goba
wasn't
entirely
satisfied,
fca
wasn't
entirely
satisfied.
Staff
wasn't
entirely
satisfied
either,
but
we've
all
agreed
to
monitor
what's
happening.
These
are
new
rules
that
are
coming
in.
The
landscaping
requirement
is
a
very
significant
and
large
chunk
of
that
front
yard
that
is
going
to
be
dedicated.
The
walkway
provision,
as
well
too,
to
eliminate
the
potential
for
for
driveway,
widening
and
for
illegal
front
yard
parking
using
a
walkway
is
the
basis.
C
That's
also
going
to
be
gone
too,
and
so
we
agreed
with
with
goba
that
it
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
watch
and
see
how
this
happens
and
see
if
those
on-street
and
off-street
concerns
can
be
solved
both
through
this
by-law
and
also
through
excellent
design
brought
forward
by
the
industry
as
well
too.
So
it
really
is
a
push-pull
that's
what
the
monitoring
process
is
for.
If
it
turns
out
that
we
continue
to
have
those
on
and
off
site
challenges,
then
that's
something
where
we
now
have
a
framework.
C
We
can
come
back
in
and
say:
look
this
isn't
working
as
as
we
thought
it
was
going
to
be.
Let's
come
back
and
let's
revisit
this
where
we're
at
so
that's
that's
really
the
main
thrust
of
this.
We
need
to
collect
some
data.
We
need
to
let
the
new
rules
take
effect
and
then
see
how
they
work
and
if
they
don't
we'll,
be
back.
K
K
The
the
the
other
piece
too,
is
once
the
property
is
built
once
the
great
front
landscaping
is
provided,
nothing
says
that
an
owner
and
their
family
or
a
renter
doesn't
park
on
the
green
space.
So
you
know
the
the
tree
component
plays
a
massive
role
not
only
in
its
tree
function,
but
also
as
being
a
big
deterrent
to
future
front
yard
expansions.
K
A
Thank
you,
madam
sharon.
Good
morning
to
you
and
everyone
most
of
my
questions
have
already
been
asked
or
addressed
so
I'll.
Just
stick
the
balcony
amendment
motion
by
counselor
leaper
can
staff
just
clarify?
Does
this
apply
to
balconies
that
are
exclusively
off
the
ground?
Is
it
focusing
on
balconies
balcony,
slash
patios
for
ground
floor
units?
What
is
the
issue
with
a
bound
balcony
that
is
elevated
above
the
ground.
C
Madame
chair,
the
challenge
that
that
we
were
experiencing
with
respect
to
rear
projections
and
decks
is
sorry.
Let
me
back
up
for
a
second,
because
I'm
drifting
off
into
a
wrong
topic.
The
main
challenge
here
is
the
balance
between
privacy
and
the
ability
for
people
to
have
access
to
outdoor
amenities
space.
C
There
are
two
key
numbers:
six
meters
and
7.5
meters
and
those
are
the
numbers
that
are
in
the
base.
Zoning
bylaw
and
then
infill
2
amends
those
numbers.
That's
the
standard,
rear
yard
setback
provision,
a
6,
meter,
rear
yard
setback,
provides
space
for
amenity
area
for
patios,
barbecues
chairs
things
like
that
plus.
It
also
provides
some
additional
space
for
those
trees
for
soft
landscaping.
A
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
I
don't
really
have
any
questions.
I
did
want
to
say,
though,
just
a
quick
recap
in
the
last
term
of
counsel,
in
a
process
that
was
really
begun
and-
and
I
was
heavily
involved
even
before
getting
elected,
we
did
infill
one
and
two
which
largely
stopped
the
lot
line
to
lot
line
infill.
That
was
such
a
scourge,
the
streetscape
character.
A
We're
going
to
monitor
it
and
we'll
we'll
we'll
make
tweaks
if
necessary,
and
there
can
be
a
high
degree
of
community
cynicism
around
that
I'm
pointing
to
for
our
residents,
who
are
cynical,
I'm
pointing
to
the
new
infill
rules
that
we're
passing
to
show
the
kind
of
progress
that
the
city
can
make
and
the
depth
of
its
commitment
to
trying
to
achieve
better
infill.
It's
it's
kind
of
slowing
down
in
kitchissippi.
I
don't
have
as
many
applications
in
front
of
the
panel
as
we
used
to.
A
A
L
Thanks
very
much
chair
and
thank
you
for
the
report.
I
echo
councillor
lieber's
comments,
there's
a
lot
of
good
in
this.
If
I'm
not
looking
directly
at
the
screen,
it's
cuz.
I
got
my
my
bigger
screen
in
front
of
me
here
and
the
smaller
ones
on
the
computer
with
the
camera.
So
that's
why
I'm
not
looking
directly
at
you
in
the
screen
here,
but
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
staff,
to
the
fca,
to
community
associations
and
to
goba
and
others
who
have
contributed
towards
this.
L
I
think
we're
ending
up
with
a
lot
of
improvement
here.
There's
a
lot
of
positives
here.
There's
a
few
things
still
to
be
desired
that
I
have
questions
about
which
I'll
ask
now,
but
the
on
the
overall
I'm
seeing
positive
movements
here
and
that's
always
a
good
thing.
So
the
just
I'll
just
go
through
the
comments
that
that
I
do
have
and
that
you
know
maybe
some
amendments
for
council
will
see,
but
I
wanted
to
go
through
them
and
see
what
the
staff
response
is.
L
So
the
first
one
is
around
walkways
in
the
original
submission
that
we
had
had
from
staff
from
beth's
work.
We
had
walkways
that
were
not
counted
towards
the
soft
landscape
area,
and
so
what
changed
is
that
now
walkways
can
be
counted
towards
the
soft
landscape
area,
and
so
it
means
that
essentially
we
we
lose
some
soft
landscape
area
by
moving
that
way,
and
this
has
implications
for
for
climate
change,
especially
some
of
these
rules
that
we're
bringing
in.
So
that's
why
I
mentioned
them.
C
Change,
I'm
chair,
in
fact,
actually
the
may
submission
did
include
walkways
as
part
of
the
soft
landscaping
area.
It
just
phrased
it
differently,
so
it
was
a
a
bit
difficult
to
to
parse
the
way
the
original
bylaw
wrote.
Is
you
needed
to
provide
a
soft
landscaped
area
then
once
you'd
provided
it
a
walkway
could
go
through
it.
That's
essentially
the
same
thing:
we've
just
been
more
upfront
and
more
straightforward
about
it,
so
it
is
the
same
thing.
C
The
other
thing
to
recall,
though,
is
that
a
walkway
will
not
be
prohibited
on
a
lot
that
is
less
than
10
meters
of
10
meters.
Deep,
so
in
terms
of
providing
that
area,
you
first
have
to
provide
that
large,
substantial
required
soft
landscaped
area
and
that's
a
key
important
thing,
and
that
is
again
geared
toward
providing
the
opportunity
for
a
substantial
tree
to
be
planted
with
our
forestry
colleagues.
C
Then
you
can
then
work
on
your
hardscaping
and
some
of
the
other
things
that
bring
value
to
the
streetscape,
such
as
a
patio
such
as
providing
that
pedestrian
connection
things
like
that.
So
we
do
think
that
this
is
still
very
much
in
balance.
There
is
really
no
difference
from
what
we
provided
in
may,
except
that
we
did
change
the
language
just
to
clarify
things,
because
it
was
confusing
for
people
to
understand
under
how
it
was
originally
written.
L
Yes,
because
originally
written
there
was
no
sentence.
That
said
and
may
be
included
in
the
calculated
area,
and
that
was
under
section
g
of
set
schedule.
342
walkways
five
schedule:
g
set
of
walkways
permitted
to
go
through
the
required
minimum
aggregate
soft
landscape
area,
but
then
it
was
changed
to
clarify
it
says
and
may
be
included
in
the
calculated
area.
So
it
was
always
your
intention,
then,
of
staff,
including
the
may
report,
to
have
walkways
included
as
soft
space
as
part
of
the
aggregate
overall.
C
Yeah,
madame
chair
walkways
are
very
different
than
driveways.
They
do
not
have
the
thick
base
that
a
walkway
that
a
driveway
has
they're
not
there
to
support
a
car,
so
you
have
the
ability
for
roots
to
grow
under
walkways
and,
of
course
they
have
all
kinds
of
different
materials.
Some
people
put
down
little
pavers,
some
people
put
down.
You
know
different
kinds
of
stuff,
so
it
really
they
do
form
part
of
that
hardscaped
element.
So,
yes,
it
was
the
intention
before
wasn't
phrased.
That
way,
but
certainly
it's
it's
more
clear.
L
I
know
when
the
original
port
staff
had
pointed
out
tree
roots
can
grow
underneath
a
walkway,
but
my
understanding
was
that
the
earlier
report
did
recognize
that
walkways
are
not
soft
landscaping
and
prohibited
they're
being
counted
towards
that
that
soft
landscape
area.
So
maybe
some
more
clarification.
You
know
on
that
because
I
I
thought
that
was
the
case
when
I
read
the
first
piece,
but
I
could
be
wrong
so
appreciate
appreciate
the
response.
The
other
thing
that
seems
to
have
changed
is
that
there's,
no,
you
you've
removed
the
definition
of
a
walkway.
L
C
It
does
not
mean
that
there
is
no
definition
of
a
walkway
under
the
under
the
provincial
requirements,
the
informational
interpretations
act
and
the
way
we
the
way
we
do
things
in
zoning.
When
we
don't
have
a
definition,
it
does
not
mean
that
it
does
not
exist.
It
means
you
refer
back
to
a
common
definition
of
what
is
commonly
understood
to
be
a
walkway
which
is,
in
this
case
here
a
pedestrian
path
that
provides
access
to
your
home.
C
That
is
much
more
flexible.
It's
very
clear
for
development
review
staff
to
use
it's
very
clear
for
building
code
and
also
for
bylaw
to
use,
and
we
have
set
those
parameters
on
what
you
can
and
cannot
use
a
walkway,
for
it
really
did
not
provide
any
value
to
add
the
definition
of
walkway
and
it
had
the
potential
of
causing
actually
a
lot
of
unintended
consequences.
L
Okay,
that's
helpful,
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
just
give
you
the
reason.
I'm
raising
these
pieces,
it's
mostly
about
front
yard.
It's
mostly
about
trees,
we're
losing
our
urban
tree
canopy
rapidly,
and
so
a
number
of
these
provisions
that
were
originally
came
in
may
the
soft
landscaping
piece,
the
driveway
piece
those
would
have
helped
in
the
maintenance
of
our
of
our
trees,
tree
scape,
and
that's
why
I'm
concerned
and
that's
why
I'm
raising
these
issues.
So
on
the
driveway
widths,
it's
the
same
issue.
L
C
C
So
that
is
a
fairly
significant
chunk
of
land
that
gets
taken
off
a
narrow
piece
of
infill
in
the
infill
two
area.
It
was
much
worse.
You
could
have
50
percent
of
your
front
yard,
taken
up
by
a
driveway
plus
an
additional
1.8
meters
of
walkway
that
could
directly
abut
that
driveway,
which,
as
queensway
terrace,
has
seen
on
alpine
avenue,
as
we've
seen
in
vanier
and
overbrook,
and
the
numerous
other
communities
where
infill
has
come
in
on
these
narrow
lots
has
led
to
the
essential
paving
over
of
those
front
yards.
C
C
As
we've
said
before,
with
respect
to
the
balancing
of
these
things,
we
do
think
it's
important
to
monitor
how
industry
puts
forward
designs
between
six
and
seven
meters
to
make
sure
that
we
are
going
to
achieve
that
soft
landscaping,
that
we
are
going
to
manage
those
on-site
and
offsite
impacts.
But
we
do
think
that
this
is
a
very
substantial
improvement
from
the
existing
situation
for
both
the
infill
one
area
and
also
the
infiltrator
area
as
well,
where
they
will
see
a
a
a
very
significant
change.
L
Yes
and
of
course
david,
I
I
support
the
overall
changes,
I'm
I'm
speaking
about
the
the
the
change
between
may
and
now
and
that
that's
obviously
what
I'm
referring
to
that.
That's
six
versus
seven
meters-
and
I
understand-
that's
probably
just
a
a
give
right
to
to
collaborate
to
make
sure
that
this
gets
support
as
much
as
possible.
So
just
to
understand
where
that
came
from,
I
suspect,
goba
had
had
issues
with
that,
and
so
just
to
be.
C
Again,
but
I'm
chair
to
be
clear
as
part
of
this
it,
it
really
is
about
testing
these
new
rules
and
industry,
absolutely
as
as
murray
communicated
in
his
communication
go
but
did
have
concerns
but
they're
willing
to
test
these
new
rules
out
and
give
it
a
try
same
thing
with
the
fca
as
well
too.
They
have
concerns,
but
they're
they're,
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
these
rules
unfold
and
staff
as
well
too,
are
very
interested
in
seeing
how
these
new
rules
unfold
as
well
too.
C
L
E
Thank
you
very
much
and
that's
all
the
hands
that
I
see
up.
You
know,
I
think
it's
telling
us.
I
think
councilor
lieper
said
that
you
know
we
had
four
speakers
today,
plus
the
questions
coming
from
our
colleagues,
in
that
it
shows
the
amount
of
work
that's
gone
into
this,
and
that
work
of
course,
is
as
wonderful
as
the
staff
is
that
has
worked
on
it
for
a
long
time.
It
doesn't
happen
without
the
contribution
of
our
community
associations
that
are
always
engaged
in
particular.
E
E
E
E
Committee
receive
and
consider
the
following
report
and
substitution
for
report
dated
april
22nd,
2020
and
motion
number
plc,
2020
23
4.
The
planning
committee
recommended
council
approve
the
zoning
changes
detailed
in
document
one
to
resolve
issues
and
anomalies
of
the
2015
infield
zoning
regulations
of
bylaws
2012
147
in
2015-228
as
amended.
E
But
I
missed
the
boat
on
that
I
wanted
to
just
mention
today.
It
was
the
second
item
that
we
carried
the
changes
to
the
definition
of
the
minor
rezoning
application
type.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
we
haven't
had
the
discussion
about
feasts
and
on
this
since
2001.,
so
myself
being
around
in
2001.
I
can
tell
you
boy
that
first
term
was
just
crazy.
E
E
But
one
aspect,
however:
the
application
fees
requiring
further
consideration,
reporting
was
defining
what
types
of
requests
were
rezoning
would
be
considered
minor
and
major
for
the
purposes
of
applying
different
fees.
So
that's
a
long
time
ago,
and
I
wanted
to
to
thank
amanda
marsh
and
and
the
whole
team
for
their
work
on
this.
I
know
that
it
is
going
to
make
a
difference
for
small
businesses
and
at
a
time
now
this
is
like.
E
We
have
now
that's
why
this
initiative
is
endorsed
by
the
city's
economic
recovery
task
force
as
a
quick
win
to
help
them
we
did
receive
today
through
mr
willis
from
david
renfroe
david,
I
think,
is
the
chair
of
goba
this
year,
but
some
of
you
know
him
anyway,
and
he
says
congratulations
and
thank
you
for
proposing
these
changes.
The
9
500
reduction
in
the
application
fee
is
significant,
we'll
pass
this
on
to
members
and
it
has
very
little
impact
on
the
city
itself.
In
fact
over.
E
E
E
A
A
E
E
That
no
problem,
it
believe
me
it
was
kind
of
confusing.
While
the
meeting
was
going
on
too,
we
were
going
back
and
forth
on
it
a
little
bit,
so
that
is
for
the
next
meeting
any
inquiries.
I
was
gonna
write
one
out,
but
I
just
but
I
forget
whether
staff
are
already
doing
this.
So
I
don't
know
whether
mr
james
or
probably
mr
herway
or
john,
are
you
on.
Are
you
on
hollywood
squares
here?