►
From YouTube: Ottawa City Council – 9 December 2020 (2)
Description
Ottawa City Council – 9 December 2020 – live meeting stream.
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
B
A
Okay,
callings
we're
now
back
to
the
main
city
council
meeting
page
22
of
the
agenda.
Postponements
and
deferrals.
Fedco
report
number
18
rapport
number
this
with
the
committee.
They
financed
the
dubman
economic
and
we're
also
dealing
with
the
waterfall
report
by
the
auditor-general
of
in
time.
It's
been
moved
to
this
item
from
page
26.
A
and
we'll
just
go
through
directions
and
motions.
First,
I
have
direction
the
staff
that,
as
part
of
the
amendments
to
the
lpp
agreements
and
keeping
with
the
letter
received
from
oseg
on
december
7th
2020
in
response
to
the
request
from
the
mayor
and
the
sports
commissioner,
matt
fleury
staff
ensure
that
osaka's
commitment
to
keep
the
ottawa
red,
blacks
and
67s
playing
at
lansdowne
park
for
another
10
years
is
reflected
in
the
revised
agreement.
A
C
And
whereas
the
city
intends
to
strike
a
working
group
and
counsel
our
sponsors
group
that
will
look
into
the
long-term
operational
planning
of
lansdowne
park,
whereas
the
most
prudent
course
of
action
for
the
city
would
be
to
allow
for
some
short-term
relief.
While
allowing
the
working
group
and
sponsors
group
to
consider
the
implications
of
the
long-term
being
proposed.
C
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
city
council
approved
the
10-year
waterfall
extension
of
the
lansdowne
park.
Partnership
plan.
With
the
following
conditions,
a
formal
business
plan
and
operational
plan
describing
how
long-term
challenges
with
the
site
can
be
ameliorated
is
submitted
to
the
satisfaction
of
city
council.
C
Indeed,
that
these
elements
be
presented
to
the
working
group
and
council
sponsors
grew
prior
to
going
to
full
council
for
consideration
in
2021.
This
term
and
b
refer
the
proposed
changes
to
the
retail
rent
agreements
and
participation.
Rent
changes
to
the
working
group
encounter
sponsors
group
to
review
a
transfer
of
sale
to
retail
portion
of
the
site,
the
future
revenue
loss
to
the
city,
the
effects
on
the
waterfall
and
the
implications
of
the
effects
on
coca-19
on
retail.
C
C
D
Mr
mayor,
I
through
you
to
the
counselor,
I
believe
the
counselor
is
referring
to
the
the
original
audit
that
we
did
on
management
lands
down
contract
and,
as
we
have
discussed
in
any
of
the
audits
that
we've
done.
We
believe
that
it's
that
it's
prudent
to
to
identify
your
risks
in
the
short
term,
medium
term
and
long
term,
and
we
found
issues
with
the.
C
Partnership
come
on
muted
there,
there
we
are,
and
right
now
the
city
does
not
use,
has
not
been
using
the
original
and
or
updated
financial
forecast
during
their
financial
results,
review
to
compare
the
actual
performance
against
the
original
and
updated
expectations.
So
so
what
effect
does
that
have
by
not
comparing
to
the
original
pro
forma
forecast.
D
D
The
operations
of
the
partnership,
the
activities
of
the
partnership
and
comparing
them
to
the
original
original
performer
that
was
that
was
presented
to
council
when,
when
they
improved
the
partnership,
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
should
exclude
any
other
analysis.
But
we
believe
that
there's
some
value
in
in
presenting
that
as
a
as
a
competitor
as
well.
C
C
I
am,
these
are
all
to
you,
mr
johnson,
and
by
the
way,
mr
hughes,
before
you
answer,
I
just
wanted
to
say
congratulations
on
your
tenure
as
well
as
auditor
general,
and
I
wish
you
the
best
in
moving
on
I
do
want.
I
wanted
to
preface
my
comments
with
that.
I
missed
that,
but
I
I've
appreciated
working
with
you
in
the
short
time
we've
had
to
so
thank
you
for
all
you've
done
for
the
city,
but
these
are
all
to
you
and
then
I'll
move
to
a
power.
Very
quick.
D
Mr
mayor,
I
don't
happen
to
have
in
front
of
me
the
the
numbers
for
the
the
additional
proposal
that
was
made
to
to
support
the
the
lansdowne
partnership,
but
I
do
know
that
that
there
was
initially
some
prospect
of
of
a
payout
to
the
city
through
the
partnership
and
that,
subsequent
to
the
the
original
approval
by
council,
it's
now
been
determined
that
that
will
be
no
there's
little
expectation
of
payout.
At
the
current
time,.
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
and
my
last
question
to
you,
mr
hughes.
You
you
found
some
anomalies
with
the
waterfall
both
for
incorrectly
allocated
equity
and
the
need
to
immediately
remediate
issues
to
ensure
the
city's
interests
are
appropriately
protected.
Can
you
just
go
into
a
bit
more
detail
on
that?
What
you.
D
D
B
E
Non-Cash
transactions-
these
are
amounts
in
a
forecasted
waterfall
distribution
spreadsheet.
The
other
item
that
was
noted
in
our
report
was
an
item
from
2012-2013,
where
the
the
again
the
the
oseg
equity
account.
There
was
a
timing
difference
in
the
minimum
equity
that
was
contributed
at
the
time,
the
partnership
between
2012
and
2013,
and
that
timing
difference
resulted
in
a
an
overstatement
of
944
thousand
dollars.
E
C
With
osi,
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
mean
the
concerning
part
of
this
report
was
the
general
oversight,
the
lack
of
controls
on
where
we're
seeing
how
those
allocations
are
made
to
the
waterfall,
and
that
is
that
is
a
continuing
concern
when
you
read
that
report
and
given
the
roll-up
of
those
consolidated
financial
statements
and
the
inability
to
get
into
the
details
about
what
should
go
where
and
who
decides
that,
and
so
I
appreciate
your
work
on
this
chair
I'll,
pass
it.
I
I
I'll
pass
it
back
to
you.
C
A
F
That
includes,
but
is
not
limited
to
representatives
from
the
following:
the
old
ottawa,
south
old
ottawa,
east
and
glebe
community
associations,
a
representative
of
homewood
avenue
residents,
the
bank
street
business
improvement
area,
the
ottawa
farmers
market
ottawa
tourism,
invest
ottawa,
the
ottawa
council
of
bias,
john
de
fer
de
la
capitan,
nationale,
the
ottawa
music
industry
coalition,
the
ottawa
festival
network
and
the
international
alliance
of
theatrical
stage.
Employees
ayatsi.
F
So
this
is
the
staff
report
recommended,
obviously
the
staff
working
group,
as
well
as
a
council
sponsors
group.
That
would
advise
that
staff
working
group.
So
this
motion
seeks
to
add
a
stakeholder
sounding
board
similar
to
what
we
have
in
place
for
other
large
city
projects
and
initiatives
such
as
a
solid
waste
master
plan,
and
I
know
this-
this
builds
on
a
suggestion.
A
G
B
B
B
D
B
G
Won't
be
any
different
than
my
intervention
at
fedco
on
the
matter.
I
guess
earlier
in
november.
I
I
think
we
all
have
a
stake
in
lansdowne,
because
we
care
about
it
because
it
it
has
been
a
success
story
when
you
think
of
the
public
spaces
that
were
created
when
you
think
of
the
aberdeen
and
horticulture
building,
the
challenge
is
the
pandemic,
and
the
challenge,
frankly,
is
also
the
life
cycle
on
both
the
stadium
and
the
arena.
G
How
can
we
ensure
that,
ultimately,
we
don't
end
up
with
an
end-of-life
state
for
an
arena
and
a
stadium
and
all
the
pieces
that
can
pull
together
to
make
that
particular
element
of
the
oseg
partnership
as
a
as
a
as
a
sustainable
one?
So
I
want
to
thank
everyone
involved
today.
I
think
there's
a
long
road
ahead,
and
I
want
to
also
thank
mr
greenberg
and
and
mr
gowdy
for
responding
to
the
letter.
G
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
have
questions
about
the
the
two
motions
before
us.
If
this
that's
the
right
time,
the
council
menard's
motion
it
mentions
in
it,
it
states
that
oseg
will
receive
468.4
million
dollars
under
the
waterfall.
As
a
result
of
this
report,
I
was
hoping
staff
could
provide
some
clarification
that
some
insight
into
that,
because
that's
not
the
number
that
I
was
left
with
when
we
were
reading
the
report
or
understanding
it.
So
could
you
provide
some
common.
I
B
E
Impossible
to
do
okay.
That
thing,
that's
incredibly
helpful
to
understand.
Thank
you
for
that,
as
well
in
respect
to
counselor
gower's
motion
which
I
will
be
supporting,
but
I
just
I
would
like
some
clarification
on
that
I've
had
the
benefit
of
being
on
on
actually
both
of
the
sponsors
group,
where
we've
had
that
sounding
board.
I
just
want
clarification
and
respect
to
the
role
of
this
sounding
board
initiative,
and
that
will
they
have
will
they
be
feeding
their
in
in
their
insights
into
the
staff
working
group?
E
Will
they
will
they
be
bringing
that
back
as
a
as
a
report
that
will
be
public,
or
will
it
just
be
a
matter
of
making
sure
that
we
have
a
fulsome
discussion
and
provide
that
information
and
council
gower?
I
see
now
one
more
other
thing:
would
it
be
possible
to
include
the
ottawa
board
of
trade
because
we've
included
a
number
of
our
very
prominent
leaders
in
the
in
the
industry
in
terms
of
businesses,
and
I
know
that
they
play
a
very
significant
role
in
our
community
in
that
respect,.
F
I
I
can
clarify
from
the
motion
that
the
stakeholder
sounding
board
made
up
of
the
community
groups,
and
the
business
groups
in
the
motion
would
be
working
with
the
staff
working
group
and
providing
feedback.
Perhaps
mr
canelacos
can
give
some
more
clarity
as
to
how
that
feedback
would
be
formally
captured
from
a
governance
perspective,
so
that
fedco
and
council
are
aware
of
how
that
feedback
is
being
used.
J
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Our
intent
would
be
to
use
the
sounding
board
to
receive
input,
so
we
could
bring
back
the
sponsorship
group,
so
the
sponsorship
group
would
have
oversight
over
the
working
group
and
over
our
public
consultation.
So
as
we
receive
inputs
from
the
public
consultation
and
the
groups
that
are
listed
and
constantly
in
counselor
gower's
motion,
all
of
that
will
be
fed
back
to
the
sponsorship
group
and,
ultimately,
staff
would
be
making
their
recommendations
from
a
compilation
of
all
those
things
back
to
full
council
or
committee.
Then
council.
E
Okay,
no,
that's
very
that's
very
helpful
to
understand,
because
when
I
saw
the
the
makeup
of
the
group,
once
again,
we
have
some
group,
some
individuals,
some
representation
on
it
that
may
have
competing
interests.
We
may
have
a
bia
in
canada
that
won't
have
as
much
so.
Once
again,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
we
reflect
on
how
they're
going
to
provide
input
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day
it's
going
to
be
council,
it's
going
to
be
the
community.
It's
going
to
be
those
most
effective
that
have
the
stronger
role
in
this.
A
K
Thanks
just
on
the
on
the
stakeholder
sounding
board,
obviously
I
think
it's
a
good
a
good
plan
and
it
helps
and
addresses
some
of
the
comments
and
and
desires
that
the
council
member
raised,
but
just
to
be
clear
on
that
that
the
motion
says
include,
but
not
limited
too,
so
we
don't
necessarily
need
to
be
picking
the
members
of
that
committee
of
that
board.
Sorry,
the
sounding
board
here
today
that
that
that
membership
will
be,
as
was
the
case
with
the
solid
waste
master
plan.
A
A
F
C
C
B
A
C
I
think
he
was
telling
me
that
counselor
mckenney
and
was
it
counselor
brocken,
got
the
exact
same
votes
on
their
first
election
that
anyway,
scott's
better
at
that
than
I
am,
but
I
think
I'm
going
to
start
in.
So
if
you
just
switch
to
the
next
slide,
please
perfect,
so
it's
important
that
counselors
understand,
there's
two
things
that
we're
doing:
it's
not
just
a
10-year
extension.
That's
being
looked
at
today.
C
so
that
that
22
year,
retail
extension
gives
ottawa
gives
up
the
rent
for
those
spaces
in
that
portion
of
the
site
until
2066
and
50
of
the
net
profits
from
the
retail
under
the
10-year
extension
we're
giving
up
rent
for
the
arena,
the
stadium
and
the
retail
portion
for
the
10
years,
and
there
is
no
competition
for
how
this
site
could
be
operated
in
the
future.
We
just
move
forward
with
this
and
on
the
22-year
extension,
there's
been
no
analysis
on
how
the
transfer
of
the
retail
portion
of
the
site
will
work.
C
You've
heard
that
they're
looking
for
another
partner
to
be
brought
in-
and
mr
greenberg
mentioned,
bringing
this
into
the
waterfall,
but
no
analysis
by
staff
has
been
provided
to
counselors
we'd,
be
approving
something
today
that
we
don't
know
how
it's
going
to
look
in
terms
of
that
waterfall.
What
it
would
do,
it's
a
bit
premature
next
slide,
please.
C
So
this
is
what
the
waterfall
looks
like
in
terms
of
actual
returns
and
as
you
heard
from
city
staff,
there
are
some
equity
considerations.
I've
put
in
the
investments
at
the
front
of
this
slide
on
osage
and
the
city
of
ottawa's,
how
much
we've
each
put
in
so,
let's
say:
152
million
city
210
oseg's
expected
to
put
in
another
40,
mostly
from
operational
losses.
That's
how
this
works.
It's
if
there's
operational
losses
they
put
that
in
there
and
at
the
end
of
the
30-year
agreement
it
would
be
216.5
million.
C
At
the
end
of
that
extra
10
years,
it
would
be
468
million
again
minus
some
of
the
equity.
The
city
has
never
talked
about
the
city's
equity
in
a
negative
fashion.
210
million
dollars
we're
getting
zero
dollars
back
after
that
40
years,
and
nor
our
contribution
of
equity
would
also
not
come
back
next
slide.
Please,
and
this
is
what
the
auditor
general
found.
C
C
Oseg's
funding
went
to
359
million
and
then
we're
asking
ourselves.
Does
this
ensure
that
the
public
has
a
strong
chance
of
repayment
of
invested
capital
and
in
this
case
it
it
clearly
does
not
that
that
changed
next
slide.
Please
so
city
staff
have
been
making
these
these
arguments
about
it,
and
I
understand
the
arguments.
C
One
is
that
oseg's
best
business
decision
would
be
to
default
under
the
current
terms,
and
the
second
is
that
if
volkswagen
leaves
we're
on
the
hook
for
continuing
operational
costs,
but
the
first
point
should
be
really
referenced,
it
doesn't
look
like
oseg's
about
to
leave.
There
is
a
forthcoming
potential
deal
in
the
works.
As
you
know,
in
a
northside
stance,
the
profit
made
from
those
other
transactions
outside
the
waterfall
still
exists.
The
sponsorship,
for
example,
some
of
the
other
teams
that
are
not
part
of
the
original
deal.
C
We
said
that
there
will
be
no
teams,
even
though
we're
50
percent
owers
of
the
teams.
We
said,
there's
going
to
be
a
massive
reduction
in
events,
we're
talking
about
retail,
sub
leases
being
taken
over
by
the
city
and
principal
and
interest
repayment
of
the
retail
loan
and
the
loan
for
arena.
The
loan
for
arena
is
paid
regardless,
but
these
were
very
pessimistic
terms.
So,
under
those
terms,
anybody
looking
at
this
would
just
say.
C
C
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I've
just
seen
the
slides
the
first
time
they
weren't
shared
with
with
staff,
so
I'm
just
I'm
just
assessing
it.
As
I
see
each
slide
and
you
know,
unfortunately,
the
slides
paint
a
picture
which
don't
provide
the
full
context
which
I
believe
staff
have
provided
in
the
report
and
in
the
fedco
meeting
and
in
numerous
questions
that
counselor
menard
has
staff.
J
I
just
want
to
point
out
clarification
for
the
members
of
council
that
didn't
attend
fedco
that
day
or
that
maybe
reading
these
slides
and
and
not
having
the
complete
picture
that
we
presented
on
the
other
day.
I
go
back
to
what
council
in
my
powerpoint
presentation
what
council,
when
they
approved
the
deal
with
lansdowne
that
lands
down
with
osage.
They
had
several
financial
objectives.
One
of
them
was
operating
the
stadium
and
parking
garage
with
having
without
having
to
fund
these
through
tax
dollars
check.
J
We
haven't
had
to
fund
them
through
tax
dollars,
not
funding
number
two,
not
funding
the
capital
life
cycle,
replacement,
cost
for
the
stadium
and
parking
garage
through
tax
dollars.
We
have
not
had
to
put
any
life
cycle
dollars
into
it.
That's
all
been
on
all
say,
having
the
debt
servicing
and
the
capital
expenditures
for
the
stadium
and
parking
garage
funded
through
incremental
taxes
generated
by
the
site
and
cost
avoidance,
and
that's
in
fact,
what's
happened
before
lansdowne
was
there
we
were
paying
millions
of
dollars
to
maintain
that
site
and
getting
nothing
in
return.
J
The
original
term,
including
interest-
and
I
think,
that's
an
important
part
to
remember
that
the
city
will
have
these
new
facilities.
These
facilities
paid
off
by
the
incremental
tax
dollars
because
of
development
on
the
site.
And
so
you
know
the
the
issue
around
equity
and
what
the
city
has
has
not
invested
any
equity
in
that
site.
The
expectation
that
you
know
when
you're
compared
back
to
the
original
financial
statements
and
you
look
at
the
the
statements
going
forward.
J
Our
base
case
was
based
on
the
assumptions
from
the
original
financial
statements
going
forward
and
as
isabel
jasmine.
Our
deputy
treasurer
has
said.
There
is
no
expectation
that
we're
going
to
get
any
kind
of
return
on
participation
rent
as
we're
sitting
right
now
going
forwards.
So
it's
a
moot
point
the
issue
around
whether
or
say
walks
away
from
the
from
the
deal.
J
That
thousand
dollars
is
gone,
and
then
someone
says
to
you:
I
want
you
to
invest
another
three
hundred
dollars
into
the
same
investment,
but
we're
not
doing
anything
to
make
sure
you
get
back
that
three
hundred
dollars
at
some
point.
You
have
to
make
a
decision,
regardless
of
your
financial
status,
of
whether
you're
going
to
be
prepared
to
continue
to
invest
in
something
where
there's
no
return
back
to
you,
and
what
oseg
is
asking
for
now
is
a
is
more
time
to
be
able
to
recoup
at
least
some
interest.
J
J
So
when
we
looked
at
the
whole
case,
a
rational
person
would
have
to
assume-
and
everybody
I've
talked
to
that
has
expertise
in
this
area
tells
me
that
mr
greenberg
hasn't
told
me
this,
but
tells
me
that
they
would
be
better
off
walking
away
if
the
city
doesn't
lend
them
a
hand,
then,
rather
staying
in
and
continuing
to
pour
operating
dollars
to
fund
their
operating
deficits
from
their
pockets
as
partners
versus
walking
away
from
the
equity
invested,
I
don't
believe
it's
a
bluff.
I
believe
it's
a
it's.
What
a
rational
business
person
would
do.
J
I
think
any
one
of
us
that
individuals,
even
if
we
had
a
little
thousand
dollar
investment,
would
do
the
same
thing.
So
we've
taken
great
lengths
to
explain
this
and
to
present
all
the
information
before
council
and
we
believe
the
council
has
all
the
information
required
to
make
a
decision,
and
my
last
point,
mr
mayor,
is
that
they
have
been
losing
money
since
the
beginning,
but
this
has
accelerated
since
march
since
covet
hit.
They
are
losing
money
every
day.
These
are
real
dollars.
J
We
want
to
continue
to
be
protected
and
we
want
to
continue
maintaining
the
risk
profile
over
on
aussie
old
sag
and
not
on
the
city,
because,
right
now
we
don't
have
the
risk,
but
there
needs
to
be
a
rebalancing
of
that
of
the
of
the
risk,
because
it's
swung
too
far
over
to
our
partner.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
A
M
Mr
mayor,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
to
speak,
although
I'm
being
urged
by
my
colleagues
to
probably
bite
my
tongue
and
not
say
very
much.
I
I
just
saw
councillor
menard's
presentation
for
the
first
time
there
are
so
many
inaccuracies
in
there.
I
wish
he
would
have
presented
it
ahead
of
time,
so
we'd
have
a
chance
to
just
show
him
where
things
were
were
wrong.
It's
just
it's
just
completely
completely
completely
wrong
and
and
as
as
city
managers
just
pointed
out,
it
left
out
a
lot
of
positive
things.
M
The
city
over
the
last
10
years
that
we've
been
at
this
has
saved
itself
30
to
50
million
dollars
in
total.
None
of
that
appears
in
the
analysis
that
you've
seen
today.
So
so
I
think
the
city
manager
has
has
positioned
it.
Well,
he
has
he
has.
He
has
said
that
there
needs
to
be
a
continuing
good
faith
on
the
part
of
both
both
sides.
This
is
a
partnership.
M
We've
indicated
that
that
with
covet
now
hitting
us
in
an
incredible
way,
we've
lost
all
of
our
all
of
our
business
at
the
mass
gatherings,
as
everybody
knows
can't
take
place
and
we
lost
a
cfl
football
season.
I'm
not
sure
we're
going
to
get
an
ohl
season
in
so
we're
looking
to
our
partner
to
help
us
and
it's
not
a
handout,
we're
not
asking
the
city
to
give
us
any
money.
M
I
think
the
requests
that
we've
made
are
very
reasonable.
I
think
the
city
report
looked
at
all
the
risks
and
presented
a
balance
of
base
aggressive
and
pessimistic
views,
and
it's
all
in
the
city
report
there.
So
that's
that's
the
city
administration
that
looked
at
it
independently
from
what
we
said.
So
those
are.
Those
are
my
comments,
mr
mayor.
A
J
I'm
sorry
I'm
just
telling
you,
mr
mayor,
I
guess
the
the
issue
has
to
be
in
terms
of
did
we
invest?
We
invested
in
the
in
the
sports
stadium
in
the
parking
garage
where
there
was
a
debt
that
was
taken
out,
which
is
paid
by
the
taxes.
So
we
said
we
see
that
differently
than
the
equity
that
oseg
put
into
the
site
to
develop
that
site
their
own,
their
own
equity,
which
you're
getting
back.
C
H
J
J
H
Well,
I
don't
know
if
you
borrow
210
million
dollars
and
invested
in
a
site
and
the
taxpayers
have
to
pay.
It
back
sounds
like
an
investment
in
the
site
to
me,
but
I
mean
maybe
we're
just
wordsmithing
just
a
few
things
one.
I
wanted
to
thank
mr
greenberg
and
mr
doughty
for
the
time
that
they
spent
with
me
answering
my
questions,
and
I
certainly
appreciate
the
position
that
they're
in
especially
in
terms
of
the
short
term
and
the
impacts
of
covet
on
that
side.
H
A
A
A
C
C
Sure
so
I'll,
let
me
just
respond
to
some
of
what
the
city
manager
said.
Mr
greenberg
says:
well,
there's
these
polices
in
this
in
this
report
that
he
doesn't
agree
with
walt
named
them.
Then
none
of
that
none
of
that
was
named
in
there,
and
I
took
those
that
information
from
the
report
and
from
information
passed
from
staff.
So
if
there's
something
specific
in
there,
that's
wrong
by
all
means
point
it
out,
but
don't
just
say.
The
whole
thing
is
ludicrous.
C
The
city
manager
mentioned
well.
If
you
had
a
thousand
dollars-
and
you
asked
to
invest
an
additional
three
hundred
dollars
but
you're
not
doing
anything
to
get
back
the
three
hundred
dollars.
Would
you
do
it
like
they're,
just
doing
this
out
of
charity
that
I'm
sorry
but
we're
extending
spaces
at
a
dollar
a
year
for
10
and
then
22
years?
C
In
the
case
of
the
retail
we're
giving
up
millions
of
future
revenue
without
any
business
plan
whatsoever
of
how
to
fix
the
long-term
issues,
because
it's
not
just
covid
this
site,
since
the
very
get-go
has
had
problems
in
non-game
days
and
has
had
issues
with
the
retail
site?
The
big
box
stores
that
were
put
in
and
jose
will
admit
that
too,
and
so
it's
not
just
that
we're
we're
trying
to
stem
a
short-term
piece.
C
These
are
long-term
changes
that
are
giving
up
city
of
water
revenue
and,
quite
frankly,
it
feels
like
we're
being
negligent
as
a
city.
Our
responsibility
is
to
our
residents
first
and
foremost,
that's
who
we're
responsible
to,
and
in
this
case
it
doesn't
feel
like
that
at
all,
and
so
the
other
piece
that
came
up
no
one
else
would
become
a
partner
that
was
said
by
the
city
manager.
The
city
has
no
idea,
it
hasn't
done
the
analysis.
It
hasn't
even
tried
to
look
at
an
opportunity.
C
C
And
so
the
motion
that
I've
got
in
front
of
us
would
do
that.
It
would
allow
a
short-term
it
would
allow
the
short-term
piece
and
extend
the
deal
for
10
years
with
conditions
such
as
a
business
plan
such
as
a
value
for
money,
audit
and
and
and
oseg's
not
leaving
with
that
piece
there.
The
last
the
other
piece
that
mentioned
is
tax
increment
financing,
well.
C
Tax
increment
financing
is
very
suspect
to
say
that
you're
building
something
on
a
site
and
that
those
taxes
are
paying
just
directly
for
that
site
ignores
the
need
to
pay
for
other
city
services
like
garbage
and
snow
clearing
right
across
the
city.
It
is
not
that's
not
how
those
things
work
and,
in
this
case
that's
the
way
we
did
it
with
lands
down,
but
it
is.
It
is
certainly
not
the
way
that
it's
supposed
to
work
and
so
on
the
tax
increment
financing
arguments
that
are
being
made
assigning.
C
You
know,
75
of
the
potential
real
realtor
taxes
when
we're
giving
up
all
those
other
pieces.
Around
cert
city
services
are
supposed
to
be
funded.
That
housing
would
have
been
built
anyway,
and
so
that's
another,
a
big
problem
with
this,
and
I
guess
at
the
end
of
the
day,
what
we're
looking
at
here
is.
C
There's
no
guarantee
this
deal
would
be
anything
more
than
a
minor
stop
gap
and
they'll
be
back
again
asking
for
this.
In
the
in
this
piece,
I've
been
working
with
them
very
closely.
I
have
to
swear
on
many
other
pieces
of
this
deal
to
try
to
make
this
site
as
successful
as
possible
because
we
all
want
it
to
succeed,
but
we
can't
just
say
that
we
want
it
to
succeed
and
not
do
our
due
diligence
and
mitigate
the
city's
risks,
which
the
auditor
general
has
pointed
out
at
the
beginning.
C
A
Great,
thank
you
very
much
just
to
wrap
up
a
couple
of
comments.
First
of
all,
thank
you,
ken
hughes,
our
city,
auditor
general,
for
your
distinguished
service
and
your
long
time
with
the
city,
not
just
with
as
auditor
general,
but
before
that
as
deputy
treasurer,
we
wish
you
the
best
in
your
next
phase
of
your
life
and
all
the
best
over
the
holiday
season
for
you
and
your
family.
I
also
want
to
thank
roger
greenberg.
A
I
I
was
very
as
always
impressed
with
his
presentation
and
his
diplomacy.
I
think
this
has
been
probably
the
most
frustrating
file
that
you
have
dealt
with
as
a
business
person.
Your
character
is
besmirched
from
time
to
time,
and
I
very
much
admire
the
work
that
you've
done
for
this
project,
and
this
has
been,
as
you
pointed
out,
a
labor
of
love.
This
is
not
some
get-rich-quick
scheme
that
you
and
your
partners
invested
in
thinking.
You
were
going
to.
You
know
turn
to
turn
out
to
be.
A
A
I
won
virtually
every
poll
in
both
of
those
elections,
including
the
poll
where
the
individual
lived
and
the
residents
of
homewood
avenue
the
public
like
lansdowne,
20
million
visitors,
a
thousand
full-time
jobs,
2500
part-time
jobs,
greater
opportunity
for
green
space,
trees,
children's
playground,
skate
park,
skating,
rink,
basketball,
court,
community
garden,
the
beautiful
horticulture
and
aberdeen
pavilion,
two
of
the
most
used
and
rented
buildings
in
all
of
the
city
of
ottawa,
and
I
am
proud
to
be
associated
with
that
particular
project.
There
are
some
people
that,
quite
frankly,
will
never
please.
A
You
know
we'll
constantly
move
the
yardstick
or
the
goal
post
every
time.
We
agree
to
something,
and
I
commend
counselor
gower
for
the
motion
that
he
brought
forward
to
broaden
the
stakeholders,
because
this
is
really
a
city-wide
facility.
It
happens
to
be
located
in
one
neighborhood,
but
it
really
is
a
citywide
facility
and
should
be
treated
as
such.
I
would
strongly
urge
you
if
you,
if
you
want
to
kill
lansdowne
you
vote
for
this
motion.
A
Plain
and
simple:
you
want
to
just
kill
the
whole
deal
and
we
end
up
with
everything
with
none
of
the
benefits.
Then
you
vote
for
this,
but
I
would
strongly
urge
you
send
a
signal
to
those
partners
in
the
private
sector
and
those
individuals
who
have
put
blood,
sweat,
tears
and
money
into
this
facility.
A
Stop
the
nonsense
of
spreading
this
ridiculous
notion
that
this
is
a
bailout
as
steve
cadillac
has
so
forcefully
said.
The
reality
is
that
when,
when
lansdowne
was
just
a
cruddy
old
parking
lot
with
bad
asphalt
and
run
down
buildings,
we
were
losing
three
to
four
million
dollars
a
year,
because
guess
what
not?
A
lot
of
people
wanted
to
book?
Cruddy
old
buildings,
the
coliseum
building?
Remember
the
food,
the
international
food
bazaar
building,
the
old
curl
of
drones.
They
were
a
mess.
A
Now
it's
a
destination
spot.
Yes,
we
need
more
density
on
the
site
to
make
it
even
more
vibrant,
but
the
reality
is
that
we
are
generating
six
million
dollars
a
year
in
property
tax
revenue
which
we
never
had
before.
We
had
a
grand
total
of
zero
dollars
in
property
tax.
Prior
to
this,
so
please
support
this
reponse
set
project
the
parklands
down.
I.
M
A
United
way,
kickoff
campaign,
and
so
many
other
great
events
that
took
place
at
that
site
and
the
sense
of
pride
had
brought
to
us
as
a
community.
So
I
feel
I
have
a
very
strong
mandate.
The
people
I
talk
to
in
the
in
the
gleam
and
old
ottawa
south
really
love
the
site.
Is
it
perfect,
of
course
not,
but
let's
build
on
that
great
success
and
make
it
even
better
in
the
future.
So
I'd
encourage
you,
please
don't
vote
to
kill
lansdowne
park,
the
revitalization,
a
vote
against
the
menard
motion,
yeas
and
nays.
F
F
G
M
G
I
C
A
L
A
A
A
A
We
have
a
number
of
motions,
so
we'll
we'll
get
the
motions
tabled
first.
So
if
you
just
introduce
your
motion
and
not
speak
to
it
and
we'll
just
come
back
to
them
as
we
as
you
put
your
hand
up
so
the
first
one
is
moved
by
myself,
signed
by
counselor
suds,
whereas
a
general
practice
formalized
as
part
of
the
2009
midterm
governance
review
report.
The
midterm
review
is
also
a
regular
opportunity
for
members
of
council
to
review
their
membership.
A
Therefore
being
resolved.
The
council
considered
and
approved
one
of
the
following
members
for
appointment
as
chair
of
cpsc,
one
alphabetically,
councillor
luloff
and
second
councillor
mckenny.
So
we'll
move
on
that
next
is
counselor
menard
participation
of
mayor
and
debate,
counselor
menard.
If
you'd
like
to
introduce
your
motion.
C
The
city's
rules
procedure
are
silent
on
a
particular
matter
and
whereas
robert's
rules
of
order
state
the
following
in
regard
to
the
chair
of
an
assembly
participating
in
debate,
this
should
rarely
be
done
and
nothing
can
justify
it
in
a
case
where
much
feeling
is
shown,
and
there
is
a
liability
difficulty
in
preserving
order.
If
the
chairman
has
even
the
appearance
of
being
a
partisan,
he
loses
much
of
his
ability
to
control
those
who
are
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
question.
There
is
nothing
to
justify.
C
C
After
having
made
his
speech
until
after
the
pending
question
is
disposed
of,
and
whereas
the
position
provisions
of
the
city's
current
procedure
by
law
on
the
chairing
of
council
do
not
align
with
this
approach
and
whereas,
although
section
4
of
the
procedure
by
law
governing
the
participation
of
mayor
and
debate,
does
allow
for
some
greater
latitude
than
what
is
outlined
in
robert's
rules
of
order,
the
current
practice
nevertheless
deviates
from
sub-section
4-1
of
the
procedure.
Bylaw
as
well,
which
states
the
following.
C
With
respect
to
this
rule
and
the
current
practice,
therefore
be
it
resolve
that
the
following
amendments
be
made
to
document
seven
proposed
amendments
to
procedure,
bylaw
one.
The
mayor
may
state
relevant
facts
on
the
mayor's
position
on
any
matter
before
the
council,
without
leaving
the
chair,
which
may
take
place
immediately
prior
to
the
vote.
Or
should
the
mover
of
a
substantive
motion
wish
to
reply
pursuant
to
section
47
prior
to
the
movers
wrap
up
two,
it
shall
be
permissible
for
the
mayor
to
move
a
motion
or
debate
a
question
without
first
leaving
the
chair.
C
Unless
a
member
of
council
requests
that
the
chair
be
seated
and
three.
If
the
mayor
desires
to
leave
the
chair
to
move
a
motion
or
to
take
part
in
the
debate,
the
mayor
shall
call
on
the
member
designated
as
deputy
mayor
pursuant
to
section
5
to
preside
until
the
mayor
resumes
the
chair
and
the
mayor
shall
assume
a
seat
reserved
for
a
counselor.
A
C
C
We
also
recognize
and
respect
the
cultural
diversity
that
first
nations
and
unmet
people
bring
to
the
city
of
ottawa
and
whereas,
in
accordance
with
action,
2
under
education,
awareness
building
within
the
2018
reconciliation
action
plan
report,
the
city
has
incorporated
acknowledgments
of
algonquin
unseated
territory.
At
the
opening
of
city
organized
events.
C
The
council
has
not
formally
extended
such
acknowledgments
to
means
of
counsel
and
whereas
this
recognition
should
not
only
inform
a
reconciliation
action
plan
but
should
inform
all
work
of
council
regardless
of
where
or
by
what
means
council
is
meeting
and
whereas
this
recognition
should
therefore
not
only
be
made
in
the
context
of
a
reconciliation
action
plan
but
should
be
made
whenever
council
is
conducting.
Business.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved.
The
following
amendments
be
made
to
document
seven
proposed
amendments
to
procedure,
bylaw
2019-8,
regular
and
special
city
council
meeting
29
agenda
in
council.
A
B
I
Yes,
I
just
want
to
make
a
clarification
with
manager,
gray,
first
just
just
a
question
to
clarify
for
the
public-
and
this
is
in
terms
of
the
movement
of
making
indigenous
gender
and
equity
as
an
optional
to
be
optional
in
in
reporting
in
the
implications,
so
to
clarify
for
the
public.
It's
my
understanding
that
if
council
approves
this
section,
it
will
be
expected
that
indigenous
gender
and
equity
will
be
completed
in
staff
reports
where
it
is
applicable.
I
Yes,
that
is
correct.
Yes,
so
my
direction
to
staff
is
that
that,
from
that
staff
from
gender
and
race,
equity,
inclusion,
indigenous
relations
and
social
development
services
work
with
the
council
sponsorship
group
for
women
and
gender
equity
to
do
a
review
on
the
use
of
the
indigenous
gender
and
equity
implications
section
in
q4
of
of
2021
to
ensure
that
it
is
being
used
appropriately
by
staff
and
determine
if
additional
supports
are
necessary.
A
K
K
Apparently
they
never
robert's
rules
of
order
clearly
never
predicted
a
female
as
a
chair
and
then
just
on
the
on
the
lens,
the
climate
lens
matter,
so
between
fedco
and
today,
speaking
with
with
staff
and
with
counselor
menard
as
well
as
my
vice
chair,
just
wanted
to
ask
staff
to
provide
their
interpretation
of
what
that
means.
I
think
you
know
I
raised
some
concerns
about
the
term
optional.
K
I
think
the
term
optional
is
a
is
an
inconvenient
term,
but
knowing
that,
after
speaking
with
staff,
some
more
understanding
how
it
will
be
applied
and
it
will
be
applied
to
pretty
much
exactly
where
we
want
it
to
be
applied
to
all
the
areas
where
we'll
see
a
significant
potential
impact
from
a
climate
perspective.
So
if
I
could
just
ask
staff
to
provide
comments
to
that
and
provide
that
clarity
on
when
it
will
be
applied
and
how
that
will
impact
certain
reports.
F
So,
mr
mayor,
perhaps
I'll
start
to
answer
the
question
and
the
clerk
may
choose
to
add
to
what
I
do.
I
think
the
the
result
of
the
changes
in
the
motion
are
focusing
the
report.
The
comments
on
the
most
significant
long-range
planning
files,
the
city,
will
be
bringing
forward
this
term
of
council.
This
will
give
us
the
time
between
now
and
the
next
governance
review
at
end
of
term
to
learn
how
to
do
this
properly.
F
I
thought
it
was
quite
instructive
that
counselor
kavanaugh
talked
about
the
prep
work
for
the
gender
and
equity
lens
that
has
been
done.
We
need
to
do
that
same
work
now
for
the
remaining
reports,
and
we
will
have
the
climate
lands
on
every
major
policy
initiative
between
now
and
the
end
of
this
term.
So
I
think
it's
on
where
it
matters
is
really
what
my
advice
to
council.
K
Yeah,
thank
you
and
I
appreciate
that.
I
appreciate
the
feedback
and
response
from
andrew
flowers
as
well
with
the
climate
resilience
unit.
I
think
it's
it's
just
important
to
get
that,
obviously,
to
get
that
interpretation
from
the
from
the
folks
that
will
be
implementing
the
lens
and
applying
it
to
to
our
our
work
through
the
committees
and
council.
Thank
you
for
that
appreciate.
K
A
F
A
O
I
recommend
we,
we
separate
the
emergency
management
from
the
social
services
and
there
was
no
appetite
early,
but
now
we
saw
how
heavy
the
workload
is
on
one
share
to
to
do
this,
so
just
just
on
our
record
for
for
the
next
term
of
council.
Maybe
we
should
revisit
this
committee
and
the
makeup
of
the
community.
A
I
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
I
just
want
to
say
a
thank
you
to
the
former
chair,
councillor
suds,
and
I
see
that
it's
a
very
demanding
job
and
I
appreciate
all
that
she's
done
and
through
some
very
busy
days,
and
I
appreciate
that
we've
had
a
female
chair.
I
think
it's
important
to
continue
to
consider
gender
equity
in
this
portfolio.
Thank
you.
A
C
F
B
F
I
have
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
them
for
six
years
now
and
I
I
do
not
know
anyone
other
than
city
staff
who
have
the
depth
of
understanding
across
our
social
services
spheres
that
catherine
mckinney
does
within
the
city.
I
rely
on
them
to
help
me
navigate
the
relatively
byzantine
child
care,
housing.
F
Other
social
supports
that
that
the
committee
deals
with
and-
and
we
know
that
in
mayor
watson's
councils,
the
chairs
are
are
more
than
just
chairs.
They
are
de
facto
ministers
of
the
the
portfolios
that
are
under
the
purview
of
those
committees,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
if
we
are
appointing
a
de
facto
minister
in
charge
of
things
like
housing,
child
care,
social
services
that
we
put
in
place
the
most
expert
person
we
can
at
a
time
when
these
issues
are
absolutely
at
the
fore
of
the
issues
that
the
city
faces.
F
So
I
I
hope
that
counselors
will
make
a
decision
and
vote
their
conscience
in
favor
of
the
best
person.
I
know
around
this
table
to
address
these
absolutely
critical
issues
at
this
juncture,
as
well
as
to
keep
in
mind
the
gender
diversity
of
of
the
chairs
of
our
committees,
which
is
something
that
I
think
a
lot
of
people
in
this
city
are
looking
for
us
to
try
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
so
with
that
mayor.
Thank
you
for
the
time.
A
B
J
A
Next
motion
is
moved
by
myself
signed
by
councillor
dudas,
whereas
council
has
approved
the
appointment
of
councillor
matt
luloff
to
replace
genocides
as
chair
of
cps
or
is
expressing
interest
in
the
position
of
chair
of
cps
council.
Olaf
advised
that
he
would
be
prepared
to
step
down
as
deputy
mayor
should
he
be
appointed
chair
of
cpsc,
whereas
in
accordance
with
2018-2022
governance
report
and
the
approach
taken
over
the
last
three
terms
of
council,
deputy
mayors
are
recommended
to
counsel
by
the
mayor.
A
E
Yes,
mr
mayor,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
say
you
know
we
had
just
had
a
conversation
about
the
importance
of
having
women
in
a
you
know,
a
formative
role
in
our
council,
and
you
know
having
been
the
deputy
mayor
for
this
past
half
of
term
of
council.
It
is
more
than
a
symbolic
role.
It
is
a
role
in
which
we
get
to
respond
and
work
with
different
departments.
E
F
Thanks
a
quick
comment
to
counselor
dude
at
this
point
it
would
be
great
if
the
deputy
mayors,
if
they,
if
we
are
intended
to
have
regional
representation
across
the
city,
could
also
represent
the
the
core
of
the
city,
but
no
it's
east,
west
and
south
mayor.
You
know
I
will
I
will
vote,
but
I
think
it
would
have
behooved
you
to
put
this
to
consultation
with
the
members
and
solicit
interest
from
the
the
members
of
council
to
see
who
might
have
been
interested
in
this
position.
F
B
To
you,
I
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
councillor
john
assats
for
her
work
on
cps.
I
know
that
she's
done
an
amazing
job
in
the
last
two
years.
I
don't
know,
council
ruloff
will
be
doing
similar
job
and
I'm
very
happy
for
him
on
congratulations,
council,
ruloff
and
I'm
very
happy
to
have
councillor
as
a
deputy
mayor
with
us,
serving
with
myself
and
counselor
doors
and
yourself
and
just
a
quick,
quick
comment.
Counselor.
B
And
including
the
mayor
representing
the
corps,
and
then
you
have
deputy
mayor
from
west
and
east
and
south,
I
think
if
you
look
at
around
the
table,
I
think
that
it's
very
well
balanced
and
well
representative.
So
I
just
want
to
congratulate
my
colleague
and
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
for
allowing
us
to.
I
F
M
O
B
I
P
B
C
A
A
G
Thanks
mayor,
let's
just
get
right
into
it
number
one.
Basically,
if
I
read
this
right,
we
we
have
debate.
The
mover
of
emotion
gets
a
wrap
up
the
mayor,
if
he
so
chooses,
can
have
the
final
word.
What
this
motion
now
and
one
says
if
the
move
or
emotion
wants
to
have
the
final
final
word.
That
would
then
be
permitted.
Am
I
correct
with
that
interpretation.
D
G
So
I
mean
we
have
a
free
flow
of
ideas.
Now
we
have
a
structure,
so
I'm
just
going
to
ask
councillor
menard
in
his
wrap-up
if
he
could
just
address
that
point
and
again
the
city
clerk,
if
he
could
clarify.
I
don't
know
too
many
occasions
during
my
tenure
here
where
the
mayor
has
removed
himself
from
the
chair's
position
to
debate.
He,
and
this
is
part
two
of
the
motion.
So
again,
could
the
city
clerk
just
comment
on
that
this?
G
D
Is
my
understanding,
mr
mayor,
and
with
regards
to
subsection
four
one
of
the
procedure
bylaw
and
the
part
of
the
resolution
towards
the
end
which
it
says,
but
it
shall
not
be
permissible
for
the
mayor
to
move
a
motion
or
debate
a
question
without
first
leaving
the
chair.
I
can
say
in
the
last
20
or
so
years
of
being
the
clerk
or
deputy
clerk
that
that
is
honored
more
in
the
breach,
as
they
say
in
fact
was
pioneered
several
terms
of
counsel
ago
by
a
former
planning
committee
chair.
G
E
E
E
Okay,
so
I
I
understand
the
need
for
increased
collaboration
amongst
all
council
members.
It'd
be
wonderful
if
we
could
always
agree
on
all
things
that
won't
always
come
to
pass
and
once
again
sometimes
situations
get
heated
and
100.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
always
working
with
a
level
of
decorum,
but
I
recognize
that
you
know
I
represent
my
ward
and
and
other
counselors
represent
their
awards.
The
mayor
represents
our
city,
so
in
that
respect
I
will
not
ever
even
consider
supporting
this
motion.
E
F
C
Sure,
if
you
have
more
counselors
off,
I
can
deal
with
it.
Oh
I
see
diane
dean's.
I
see
casper
beans
on
the
on
the
list
here.
So
no,
that's
not
the
intent.
It's
not
the
intent
to
have
to
have
multiple
wrap-ups.
It's
the
intent
is
to
have
one
wrap
up
and
like
everywhere
else,
that
I've
been
on
a
board
with
robert's
rules
of
order.
The
mover
of
emotion
gets
that
wrap
up
on
that
last
word
rather
than
another
member
of
council
directing
people
how
to
vote
at
the
end
of
everyone
else's
emotions.
C
A
O
H
While
the
chair
or
the
mayor,
proposed
their
motion
and
that
that
did
go
on
for
a
long
time,
and
I
just
did
I
just
wonder
how
we
changed
that
I
don't
believe
we
ever
had
a
vote
to
change
that
that
I
can
recall
so
is
it?
Has
it
just
slid
over
time,
because
that
certainly
was
the
practice,
and
it
was
a
practice
that
this
council
followed
for
a
long
time.
D
Mr
mayor,
as
indicated
earlier,
my
recollection
is
that
yes,
the
subsection
has
been
as
it
is
for
many
years.
Having
said
that,
though,
a
lot
of
committee
chairs
and
former
mayors
have
done
both
practices
have
spoken
from
the
chair
and
moved
motions
and
removed
themselves
from
the
chair.
So
but,
as
I
said,
my
recollection
is
that
often
it's
been
honored
more
in
the
breach
that
that
it
has
not
been
followed.
H
C
As
the
mayor
is
the
only
member
of
council
elected
city-wide
and
absolutely
expected
to
provide
that
perspective
and
go
beyond
the
potential
parochialism
of
members
of
council
tied
to
one
area
of
the
city.
I
really
agree
with
that.
However,
the
chair
must
also
endeavor
to
act
and
it's
why
we
see
this
in
toronto
and
be
seen
as
acting
objectively
in
their
duties
as
chair
as
they're,
ultimately,
the
arbiter
of
the
democratic
process
at
council,
including
the
maintenance
of
the
rules
of
order
and
that's
why
to
counselor
brocking
this
point
as
well.
C
Robert's
rules
and
our
procedure.
Bila
are
clear
on
the
need
for
the
chair
to
see
the
chair.
If
they're
going
to
participate
in
the
moving
or
debate
of
motions
and
giving
councils
generally
seemed
more
amenable
to
overlooking
the
formality
of
the
mayor,
seating,
the
chair,
when
engaging
in
debate
or
moving
a
motion,
I
do
think
our
bylaw
should
be
updated
to
reflect
this,
which
is
what
the
bylaw
does.
A
A
This
is
really
makes
us
look
rather
foolish
quite
frankly,
so
I'm
going
to
call
yes
and
nays.
I
encourage
members
to
defeat
the
monarch
me
in
motion.
It's
clear
that
the
counselor
in
question
is
concerned
that
I
get
the
last
word,
because
I
can
clarify
and
correct
a
lot
of
information
that
sometimes
comes
out
during
the
debate.
I
make
no
apologies
for
that.
I
think
it's
important
that
members
of
council
have
my
perspective
on
this.
A
F
N
I
L
D
K
O
C
A
A
C
Yes,
I
have,
I
have
introduced
it,
but
I
did
want
to.
I
don't
need
to
speak
to
it.
I
don't
think
I
the
the
motion
speaks
for
itself.
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
there
is
a
direction
to
staff
to
consult
on
this
motion
in
terms
of
the
nothing
about
us
without
us
decree,
and
so
it
would
be
helpful
given
that
we're
looking
to
change
practice.
A
Okay,
I'd
like
to
move
a
referral
motion
move
by
myself,
certainly
by
counselor
suds,
whereas
city
council
has
adopted
a
formal
structure.
The
city
has
in
place
to
implement
the
truth
and
reconciliation
action
plan,
whereas
it's
important
to
honor
the
principles
and
the
collaborative
relationship
and
the
good
work
of
the
formal
process.
That
is
in
place
to
consult
on
this
issue,
whereas
the
city
has
a
duty
to
look
at
this
with
the
indigenous
community
in
consultation
with
the
broad-based
community
and
not
assume.
A
So
my
understanding
is
that
the
the
office
that
we
have
established
has
not
been
consulted
on
this.
So
this
simply
brings
it
to
the
formal
group
of
women
and
men
who
are
kind
enough
to
sit
on
the
city's
aboriginal
working
group
to
ask
for
their
input
in
consultation
and
particularly
with
the
chiefs
of
the
algonquin
nation
as
well,
because
we
do
have
a
protocol
in
place
and
we'd
like
to
not
surprise
them
with
this
motion,
but
ask
for
their
input.
A
K
A
N
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
just
a
question
to
staff.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
through
this
process,
when
it
does
come
back
that
counselor
menard
does
get
credit
for
the
motion
and
for
bringing
this
to
us,
I
don't
want
to
see
it
slipped
into
a
report
somewhere
and
and
credit
redirected.
So
can
I
just
find
out
from
staff
how
we
will
see
that
come
back
and
what
would
be
the
assurance
that
we
would
have
that
council
menard
would
would
get
credit
for
having
raised
this.
D
N
A
Great
any
other
comments
on
referral
on
the
referral
motion,
carried
and
updating
the
governance
report,
as
amended
carried
all
right.
Next
is
auto
award
boundary
review,
2020,
recommendations
and
report.
We
have
quite
a
few-
I'm
sorry,
just
I
believe
three
motions,
some
of
them
we're
going
to
have
to
get
some
clarification
on
because
they
seem
to
contradict
one
another.
So
first
one
is
future
ward.
Boundary
reviews
moved
by
councillor
harder
seconded
by
councillor
moffatt,
and
I
know
councillor.
Al
shantiri
was
deeply
involved
in
this
as
well
councilor
harder.
B
Sure,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
Well,
we
know
that
this
report
has
caused
a
lot
of
interest,
certainly
in
the
city,
recommending
the
realignment
into
24
awards
and
whereas
this
our
decisions
may
last
for
three
or
possibly
four
municipal
elections,
so
possibly
until
2034,
and
know
that
we
continue
to
have
really
high
growth
areas
in
the
city
but
not
limited,
including,
but
not
limited
to
fast-growing
areas
of
bar
haven
and
cumberland.
B
There
may
be
variances
in
locations
and
or
rates
of
growth
from
what
is
forecasted
in
the
ottawa
for
board
boundary
review.
So
this
recommends
future
councils
that
staff
be
directed
to
review
population
and
growth
numbers
every
four
years,
beginning
in
2024
to
determine
whether
population
figures
have
varied
sufficiently
from
the
projections.
B
A
Thank
you.
It's
great
to
see
you
back
counselor
harder
just
to
remind
members
of
council.
We
have
the
consultants
who
did
the
review
with
us
available
for
questions
or
comments.
That's
beat
bauerin
and
gary
davidson
and
russell
matthew,
as
well
as
our
own
staff
from
the
the
city.
The
next
motion
future
boundary
reviews
the
boundary
between
overbrook
and
vanier.
Now
this
is
moved
by
councillor
king
and
seconded
by
councillor
fleury.
Just
so
I'm
clear
councillor
fleury
you
had
the
vanier.
G
G
P
P
We
appreciate
their
culture,
their
unique
history,
the
importance
of
the
francophone
heritage
and
their
wish
to
see
their
historical
border
protected.
But
it's
also
the
wish
of
overbrook
residents
that
that
that
area
that
overbrook
has
extended
the
same
courtesy.
There
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
history
to
the
overbrook
neighborhood.
P
The
first
references
to
overbrook
occurred
in
1911
with
three
key
streets
commemorating
the
new
king
george
and
queen
mary,
which
is
where
overbrook
gets
the
name
of
two
of
her
main
streets
they
had
visited
in
1901
and
ascended.
The
throne
in
1910
and
overbrook
was
annexed
by
the
city
of
ottawa.
On
january
1st
1950..
P
Community
identity,
a
community
and
identity
are
shaped
by
many
factors
and
the
boundaries
between
vanier
and
overbrook
have
worked
well
for
more
than
70
years.
Moving
this
boundary
to
donald
street
does
not
make
sense
and
truncates
the
community
moving
nearly
20
percent
of
its
residential
area
into
another
ward.
The
local
community
resource
center
uses
the
boundaries
of
the
ward
as
its
catchment
and,
as
I
had
said
in
a
in
a
speaking
to
a
different
motion.
P
We
are
dealing
with
major
issues,
especially
social
issues,
where
50
of
the
children
within
this
area
of
the
ward
are
within
poverty.
They
and
the
community
associations
are
invested
in
their
neighbors
and
have
been
working
hard
to
help
them
be
connected
with
social
services
and
resources.
They
don't
want
to
see
their
neighbor
neighbors
moved
to
a
different
ward.
Finally,
the
suggestion
of
a
boundary
shift
came
from
the
consultants,
after
public
consultation
on
the
original
option,
which
did
not
incorporate
the
the
new
boundary
shift.
P
So
the
community
saw
the
boundaries,
as
is
in
the
summer,
and
then
they
shifted.
This
is
not
right
or
fair
or
or
proper
consultation
for
affected
communities.
The
difference
between
moving
the
boundary
is
about
200
meters
in
in
either
direction.
If
the
purpose
of
the
boundary
review
was
predominantly
to
maintain
voter
parity,
this
change
does
not
make
a
difference
in
population
size,
a
difference
of
less
than
2
000
people
in
either
direction
where
rita
rockliffe
is,
is
well
within
the
tolerances.
P
The
community
members
feel
strongly
about
their
identity
and
are
angry
that
they
did
not
have
the
opportunity
to
be
consulted
using
macarthur
as
a
boundary
does
not
work
for
vanier
and
using
donald
street
as
the
boundary
does
not
work
for
overbrook.
It
should
not
be
zero-sum
for
either
communities
we
should
be.
We
should
not
be
hamstrung
into
a
boundary
that
does
not
work
for
either
community
for
the
sake
of
tidy
borders.
P
So
that's
why
I'm
urging
colleagues
to
please
support
this
motion
to
leave
the
southern
boundary
between
the
two
historic
communities
as
outlined
in
my
motion.
I
know
that
the
mayor
who
is
asking
me
to
speak
to
the
cardinal
glenn
motion-
I
did
have
that
as
separate,
and
I
and
I
presented
these
motions
separately
because
both
communities
have
a
massive
concerns
about
about
the
the
way
that
the
option
six
has
been
redrawn
and
they
wanted
to
have
that
full
fair
hearing
for
for
both
communities.
A
B
B
The
change
in
the
ward
boundary
does
not
prevent
members
of
the
cardinal
grand
community
to
work
cooperatively
with
mana
park.
Manor
park
is
to
the
north
separated
from
cardinal
glenn
by
the
big
cemetery.
That
happens
all
the
time.
Community
associations
cooperate,
but
the
current
boundary
divides
the
community
in
two.
B
B
G
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I
obviously
second
the
motion,
because
the
current
boundaries
do
reflect
vania
and
overbrook.
I
I
I
just
have
a
question
for
the
consultants,
because,
when
option
six
was
presented,
I
raised
concern
as
a
local
counselor
for
for
vanier,
in
identifying
amenities
of
vanier
that
were
outside
south
of
macarthur
and
and
counselor.
G
King
and
I's
intervention
with
you
was
to
protect
the
existing
boundary
and-
and
you
came
back
with
a
donald,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
when
you
say
option,
six
did
include
vanier
option:
six,
which,
which
created
a
southern
border
of
macarthur,
did
lose
some
vania
amenities.
So
just
for
the
record,
I
believe
that
was
discussed
and
presented
at
fedco.
G
Mr
mayor,
I
just
want
to
clarify
what
we
have
on
the
table
is
a
an
amended
fedco
report
that
protected
the
vania
amenities
and
based
on
their
their
consultant's
recommendation,
because
they're
also
counselor
king
and
I's
recommendation
was
to
keep
the
existing
boundaries
between
vania
and
overbrook,
and
the
consultants
came
back,
and
maybe
this
clerk
can
speak
to
that
because
the
clerk
was
was
privy
to
counselor
king
and
I's
request.
Initially,
following
the
presentation
of
option,
six.
G
A
D
F
L
B
D
G
So
you
know
if,
if
that
criteria
is
good
enough
for
my
award,
it's
certainly
good
enough,
for
other
words
as
well,
and
so
that's
sort
of
the
dilemma
I
have
now
because
I
I
completely
understand
what
counselor
king
is
trying
to
do
for
his
community,
but
also
appreciating
the
feedback
and
information
we've
got
back
from
our
consultants.
So
I
think
that
one
of
the
great
things
that
makes
a
community
is
the
sense
of
belongingness
and
community
that
people
have
where
they
live,
which
is.
I
D
I
Okay,
no,
I
appreciate
it
because
I
I
do
think
that
it's
not
I
mean
because
we're
trying
to
concentrate
having
more
population
growth
within
the
within
the
belt.
I
think
we
have
to
take
a
serious
look,
because
we
we
don't
know
how
it's
going
to
pop
up
all
over
the
place,
there's
a
lot
of
variances
that
are
still
unknown.
K
Thank
you
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
this
counselor
king
earlier
mentioned
annexation.
You
know,
as
the
representative
for
for
richmond,
which
was
annexed
by
goldberg
and
then
for
former
goldberg,
which
was
glenn
karen,
was
annexed
by
kanata
and
then
representing
parts
of
the
pn.
When
jeff
leiper
knows
all
about
the
annexation
of
nepean,
don't
get
me
started,
I
could
go
for
three
hours.
Probably
it's
it's
an
upcoming
podcast
on
annexation,
but
I
want
to
just
a
couple
comments
one.
K
I
support
the
obviously
I'm
seconding
a
cancer
el
shanteria
and
I
had
spoken
quite
a
bit
in
the
past
about
rural
for
rural
and
things
like
that
and
keeping
rural
with
rural.
I
think
one
of
the
concerns
I
have
is
once
you
depart
from
that,
and
I've
spoken
to
biata
and
gary
about
this
a
little
bit
in
recent
in
the
recent
week
once
you
depart
from
rural
with
rural,
and
you
start
to
go
to
that
suburban
rural
combination,
I
think
we,
I
think
we
get
it
wrong
on
cumberland.
K
I
think
if
you,
I
think
the
residents
agree-
and
I
actually
think
counselor
kids
probably
agrees
this
too,
and
that
the
idea
of
splitting
cumberland
in
three
was
never
really
the
idea.
It
was
not
really
the
vision.
Unfortunately,
it
happens
because
you
start
to
move
around
the
population
numbers
and
really
with
with
orleans
and
kind
of
the
blackburn
hamlet
situation.
Where,
where
do
you
put
it?
That's
what
that's?
What
causes
you
to
split
cumberland
into
three
I'd
like
to
think
that
this
motion
allows
that
sober
second
thought
to
look
at
that
in
four
years.
K
From
now
to
say:
is
this
really
the
right
decision
we've
already
heard
from
residents
in
vars
that
they're
not
too
happy
with
it?
I
think
it's
kind
of
a
well.
What
about
us?
You
forgot
us,
you
left
us
behind
down
here,
south
of
russell
road,
so
I
think
those
are
things
where
I'd
hate
to
see
us
make
a
decision
today
that
lasts
for
the
next
three
elections.
If
it's
the
wrong
decision,
the
motion
allows
us
to
revisit
that
in
2024
and,
if
necessary,
in
2028,
depending
how
things
go.
K
Ultimately,
some
of
the
other
concerns
I
mean
intensification
is
going
to
take
time.
You
know
we're
not
even
going
to
have
the
zoning
by
law
implemented
until
the
end
of
next
term
to
implement
that
60,
and
it's
the
same
with
the
growth
that
we
talked
previously
in
the
expansion
areas,
but
I
do
believe
that
that's
for
the
most
part
gets
it
right.
I
don't.
I
don't
support
any
emotions
that
that
fiddle
with
with
boundaries
and
move
people
around.
K
You
know,
I
think
we
put
the
consultant
in
place
to
make
these
boundaries
based
on
the
principles
that
that
they
explained.
That's
why
I
voted
against
all
the
ones
before,
of
course,
I've
been
historically
awful
at
getting
support
for
my
positions
in
this
in
this
endeavor
for
the
last
year
and
a
half,
but
so
be
it
I'll
continue
that
today,
but
you
know,
I
think
I
think
ultimately
the
report
I
stand
by
the
report
that
was
presented.
I
stand
by
the
principles
that
were
set
out
in
the
report.
K
I
don't
believe
we
should.
We
should
support
motions
that
that
move
people
around
ultimately,
where
you
live,
doesn't
change,
who
you
vote
for
is
the
only
thing
that
changes
and
counselor
harder
and
mean-
and
I
can
can
attest
to
how
we
work
together
on
the
stonebridge
issue
and
that
worked
out
incredibly
well,
I
didn't
represent.
I
think
I
represented
11
homes
in
all
of
stonebridge.
K
The
other
two
halves
were
well.
The
two
halves
really
were
split
by
counselor
harder
and
mean,
but
we
all
work
together.
I
mean
that's
the
reality
of
what
we
do.
I
know
many
counselors
work
together
when
you
have
these
situations
just
last
week,
I
think
councilor
lieber
had
cancer
cavanaugh
in
on
a
in
on
a
public
meeting
in
that
mckellar
park
area.
K
O
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
I'd
like
to
begin
by
thanking
the
consultant.
It
feels
like
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
together,
even
from
the
first
boundary
review
to
the
second
to
the
third,
I
I
must
say
I
said
it
to
biata,
but
I
like
to
say
it
on
record
here
you
handle
the
meetings
very
professionally.
Thank
you
very
much
for
listening
to
all
people's
concern
and
with
no
idea
in
your
opinion
was
a
bad
idea.
You
were
there
to
listen,
and
you
present
us
with
a
report.
O
I
have
to
admit
it
publicly.
I
agree
with
councillor
menard
when
it
is
hard
when
counselors
start
tinkering
with
boundaries
to
what
they
feel
is
the
right
thing,
because
because
because
it
looks
in
the
end,
we
are
self-serving,
each
other
or
helping
each
other
or
just
like
voting
for
your
own
race.
Sometimes
if
you
pay
a
raise,
so
I
I
find
it,
we
have
a
consultant.
We
get
the
report
from
the
consultant.
We
listen
to
the
community
and
the
principle
of
keeping
rural
with
rural.
O
It
was.
It
was
a
sound
from
the
last
boundary
review
in
2005
and
that's
why
we
we
won
the
day
at
the
omb
and
and
we
where
we
are
today,
I
said
it
before
where
you
live,
it
doesn't
matter.
How
big
is
your
word
also
doesn't
matter,
because,
even
with
all
the
changes,
I
still
have
the
largest
word
in
the
city
and,
quite
honestly,
I'm
proud
of
the
the
people
we
represent
in
the
south
march
from
2005,
because
those
people
have
been
voted
for
me
three
times
with
within
80.
O
So
obviously,
if
you're
a
good
counselor
and
you
work
for
the
community,
they're
brought
for
it
doesn't
matter
where
they
live
or
traditionally
part
of
canada
or
part
of
west
cart,
and
I
was
really
adamant
with
to
to
support
the
report
the
way
it
is.
But
when
counselor
kids
spoke
to
me
and
counselor
rula
say
she
went
door
to
door
and
her
resident
mass
majority
of
them.
O
They
want
to
stay
with
orlin.
For
a
reason,
most
importantly,
is
the
language
they
feel
more
connected
to
a
francophone
community,
and
I
said
to
counselor
kids,
and
I
say
today
we
are
lucky
she's,
a
counselor
who
live
in
a
rural
area
who
who's
willing
to
represent
the
rural
area.
Her
first
day
on
the
job
said,
I
want
to
go
back
to
agricultural
rural
affair
committee
and
we
welcome
her
there.
O
So
I
feel
comfortable
supporting
that
motion
in
front
of
us
with
this.
You
know
with
given
the
opportunity
for
part
of
cumberland
to
go
with
oscar.
The
other
part
goes
with
council,
kids
and
the
small
portion
will
go
to
council
lula.
Do
I
think
in
principle
that's
a
good
idea:
absolutely
not
8
000
residents
in
the
rural
area,
mixed
with
50
000
in
the
suburbia.
I
don't
think
that's
a
fair.
O
You
know
you
can
do
the
math,
but
we
have
council
who's
willing
to
work
together
and,
quite
honestly,
I
think
counselor
mafia
tachana,
the
neighboring
counselor.
Sometimes
they
work
well
together
we
had
the
what
we
call
south
martial
canada,
north
community
design
plan.
I
think
from
day
one
councillor
wilkinson
and
I
we
attend
every
meeting
together.
It's
my
area
still,
but
we
work
together
and
counselor.
O
Sad
was
elected
two
years
ago
and
we
did
the
same
thing
we
joined
meet
and
we
worked
together
and
we
we
continued
to
work
together
and
we
should
all
work
together
on
this,
but
I
just
want
the
consultant
to
know
you
did
a
bang
on
job
based
on
what
we
saw
in
the
past
in
the
last
two
review:
how
to
connect
rural
resident
with
and
leave
suburban
with,
suburbia
and
urban
with
them.
So
you
did
a
great
job.
O
Unfortunately,
we
had
to
write
something
and
that's
why
I'm
supporting
the
council
from
councillor
hard
and
and
moffat
to
to
revisit
this
in
four
years.
Maybe
in
four
years
people
change
their
heart
change
of
mind.
Maybe
whatever
something
happened,
we
should
give
them,
and
this
this
motion
make
no
mistake,
is
not
you
can't
bound
next
counsel
with
that
notion.
It's
just
to
have
the
clerk
give
the
opportunity
to
review
those
boundaries,
but
it
doesn't
make
it
that
you
know
if
next
council
they
decide
not
to.
O
I
don't
think
that
would
go
very
far,
but
with
that
again,
thanks
to
you
to
the
consulting
vietnam,
gary
and
matt
mr
russell-
and
I
have
to
say
you
guys,
did
a
great
job
and
to
our
clerk
staff
for
managing
those
meeting
and
creating
their
translation
and
listening
to
every
person
who
have
something
to
say.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I
will
be
supporting
council
harvard
moffat
motion.
I
will
not
be
supporting
any
other
motion
in
this
matter.
Okay,.
C
You
thank
you
chair
and
from
what
I
read.
The
original
consultants
report
for
the
east,
cumberland
ward,
would
that
it
would
have
been
similar
size
to
councillor
el
shantiri's.
Ward.
Now
is
my
understanding
would
have
been
around
this
around
the
similar
size,
either
a
little
bit
smaller
a
little
bit
bigger
from
what
I
recall
reading.
I
think
he
makes
a
good
point
about
that.
My
concern
is
around
the
lpat
hearing
that
could
come
on
this,
and
so
I
have
a
few
questions
around
that.
C
How
does
it
work
when
it
when
it
goes
to
lpat
in
the
city?
If
the
city
loses
its
case
of
making
these
changes
to
cumberland?
What
what
happens?
What
occurs
at
that
time
is.
Is
it
that
the
lpat
says
here
it
reverts
back
to
the
original
recommendation,
or
does
it
go
back
to
council
and
then
we're
we're
faced
with
another
decision.
F
Mr
mayor,
it's
tim
mark
speaking.
There
are
well
there's
many
options,
but
there's
what
would
most
likely
occur,
given
the
initial
report
that
set
off
the
ward
bound
review
in
this
term
of
council.
That
report
noted
that
there
are
issues
that
need
to
be
addressed.
Those
issues
continue
and
therefore,
in
my
opinion,
if
there
were
an
appeal
to
the
local
planning
appeal
tribunal,
I
and
this
tribunal
was
not
satisfied
with
the
evidence
in
support
of
whatever
by-law
council
adopts.
C
Okay,
that's
very
helpful,
mr
mark,
in
your
experience,
do
they
normally
determine
the
boundaries
based
on
the
original
recommendation
that
that
had
come
to
council
or
from
from
consultants
or
or
how
is
that
determined
normally
at
that
stage
by
by
them?
What
are
they?
What
criteria
do
they
use
is?
Is
it
something
that's
already
been
in
front
of
us
or
do
they
say?
This
is
what
we
think
is
best,
and
here
it
is.
F
P
F
C
Okay
and-
and
I
fed
you,
I
did
ask
you
about
the
timing
and
you
said
that
they
under
they
consider
these
fairly
expeditiously,
given
the
the
nature
of
them.
So
I
appreciate
that
as
well.
Mr
mark,
I
just
I
think
we
should
be
supporting
the
consultant's
report,
as
is,
and
that's
what
I'll
be
doing
today.
Thank
you.
A
F
N
B
P
A
A
F
F
H
K
P
C
A
A
G
A
H
H
Nine
three
finance
and
audit
commit
development
committee
report
19
for
planning
committee
report,
33
five
transit
commission
report,
seven
six
transportation
committee
report,
fourteen
seven
item,
one
of
finance
and
economic
development
committee
report,
18
ate
the
reports
from
the
city
clerk
entitled
college
board,
8
delegation
of
budgetary
authority
approvals
and
related
matters
and
summary
of
oral
written
public
submissions
for
items
subject
to
the
planning
act.
Explanation
requirements
at
the
city
council
meeting
of
november
25th
2020
and
nine.
N
K
N
Low
income
pass
to
a
sliding
scale.
Fare
therefore,
be
it
resolve
that
staff
examine
options
for
sliding
scale,
fares
and
passes
and
be
it
for
the
result
that
staff
examine
options
for
eliminating
the
means
test
when
applying
for
any
low
income
or
special
pass,
and
be
it
further
resolve
that
staff
report
to
transit
commission
by
q2
2021
on
their
findings,
including
how
other
cities
are
managing
these
issues.
N
Essentially,
what
we're
looking
at
is,
first
the
sliding
scale
fair
there
structure
that
you
know
if
you
have
no
money,
if
you
are
in
a
shelter
today,
there's
no
reason
why
we
don't
give
just
give
you
a
transit
pass
for
five
dollars,
a
nominal
amount,
and
if
you
are
earning
10
000
a
year,
why
not
give
it
to
you
for
eight
because
you're,
not
being
you
can't
purchase
it
anyway?
So
it's
you
know
I
would.
N
Presumably,
what
happens
is
kids
who
are
living
in
poverty
if
they
are
able
to
take
transit
and
get
around
by
transit,
they
stay
on
transit.
You
know
we
heard
from
a
woman
at
transit
commission
that
she
shares
her
transit
pass
with
four
people
in
her
house,
so
she
uses
it
to
go
to
part-time
work.
She
uses
it
to
do
groceries,
but
then
just
to
give
it
to
her
older
child
kids
to
get
to
high
school
and
to
get
into
and
to
move
about
the
city.
N
You
know,
there's
no
reason
why
we
shouldn't
provide
that
family
with
more
options
for
transit
that
they
could
actually
afford.
The
equipass
has
got
a
hard
stop,
and
anything
just
above
it
is,
is
just
not
affordable,
and
if
you
are
earning
nothing,
if
you're
on
ow
or
odsp,
you
know
that's
where
the
that's
where
the
means
test
comes
in.
N
You
know,
asking
people
to
prove
that
they're
poor,
really
is
you
know,
is-
is
difficult
for
people
it's
difficult
for
them
to
do
it,
it's
difficult
for
teenagers
to
do
it
for
for
families
to
do
it.
I
believe
that
most
people
are
honest.
They
aren't
going
to
take
something
that
that
they
don't
you
know,
need
access
to,
and
you
know
it
again
it
would.
It
would
benefit
our
entire
system,
it
would
get
people
on
to
transit,
it
would
keep
them
on
transit
and
and-
and
most
importantly,
it
would.
N
You
know,
allow
people
who
I
asked
somerset
west
community
health
center,
for
example,
how
many
bus
passes
they
give
up
people
who
visit
and
every
month
it's
you
know
it's
it's
over.
Three
thousand
people
need
to
get
around
and
they
and
they've
run
out
every
month,
so
people
are
left
not
being
able
to
get
to
a
medical
appointment
not
being
able
to
get.
You
know
downtown
to
a
lunch
program
not
being
able
to
get
you
know
across
town
for
something.
So
it's
you
know
by
providing
even
just
five
dollars
a
month.
N
A
F
Mr
mayor,
it's
counselor
hubley.
Maybe
I
can
help
address
that
for
you.
We
have.
We
have
a
working
group
that
was
approved
by
the
commission.
That's
going
to
look
at
the
aqua
pass
system
and
find
a
way
to
not
only
freeze
the
pairs
but
see
if
we
can
do
something
about
reducing
the
past
as
well.
A
lot
of
what
council
mckinney
is
asking
for
is
part
of
what
that
working
group
will
look
at,
but
I'll
be
up
front.
F
We're
not
looking
at
removing
the
means
test
for
every
single
pass
in
cases
of
odsp
clients.
They
go
through
a
means
test
already
to
qualify
for
their
their
benefit.
So
we
can
look
at
waiving
the
requirement
for
a
means
test
for
clients
that
have
already
gone
through
some
sort
of
process
that
the
city
can
approve,
but
we
can't
just
say
to
the
general
public:
anybody
who
wants
to
pass
come
get
it.
We
won't
ask
you
if
you
qualify
for
it.
If
we
do
that,
it
totally
destroys
the
budget.
F
A
M
Well,
we
we
would
need
direction
from
council
on
how
we
are
to
determine
which
individual
people
that
try
to
buy
a
pass
are
entitled
to
which
discount.
We
have
that
clarity
for
all
of
the
existing
age-based
discounts.
We,
you
know
the
the
direction
from
council
is
clear
and
we
we
ask
people
to
prove
their
age
for
the
let's
say
the
ones
that
are
based
on
their
personal
situation.
If
a
discount
is
clear,
if
someone
shows
that
they
are
receiving
odsp,
then
they
are
entitled
to
a
community
pass.
M
We
understand
the
difficulty
in
doing
so
and
the
amount
of
documents
that
need
to
be
assembled
to
make
that
application,
but
we're
also
as
flexible
as
we
can
be
well
in
how
they
demonstrate
that
they're
the
low
income
status,
while
still
remaining
consistent
with
the
direction
we
have
from
council.
So
if
there
were
changes
in
criteria
or
if
there
were
additional
gradations
of
what
the
counselor
calls
a
scale.
A
A
M
F
Yes,
I
support
the
firm
it's.
As
I
mentioned,
we
have
a
working
group.
That's
going
to
look
at
a
lot
of
these
pieces.
We've
extended
the
invitation
to
councillor
mckinney
to
join
that
working
group.
If
she
wanted
to,
I
don't
know
where
she's
at
today,
some
days
she
wants
to
other
days,
she
doesn't,
but
the
work
will
get
done
there
and
it'll
get
done
early
into
next
year.
We
will
be
coming
back
to
the
commission
with
options.
E
E
I
couldn't
find
a
municipality,
didn't
that
didn't
have
a
means
test
and
I
think
it
would
be
interesting
to
see
what
the
working
group
can
come
back
with
in
terms
of
what
that
would
look
like
or
how
we
could
have.
Some
kind
of
you
know,
fairness
in
terms
of
it
and,
basically
how
it
would
play
out.
I
think
the
best
place
for
this
to
be
examined
would
be
through
that
working
group.
E
I
really
do
hope
that
the
council
mckenny
is
part
of
that,
because
I
think
that
this
motion
has
a
lot
of
value
in
it,
but
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
us
to
see
a
working
group
looking
at
some
aspects
of
fares
and
not
look
at
the
whole
enchiladas,
so
to
speak.
So
I
I
would
fully
support
it
being
discussed
as
a
whole
piece
at
the
working
group
and
being
brought
back
for
that
consideration.
N
Oh,
thank
you
two
points.
One.
I've
never
indicated
that
I
don't
want
to
be
on
the
working
group,
I'm
not
sure
what
counselor
hughley
is
referring
to,
but
I
was
put
on
it
and
I've
always
looked
forward
to
being
a
part
of
that.
So
just
clarify
that.
Second,
I
think
that
you
know
referring
it
to
a
working
group.
N
We've
already
heard
that
the
chair
is
saying
no
to
one
aspect
of
it
and
I'm
not
sure
why
one
person,
23
plus
mayor
person,
counsel,
gets
to
say
yes
or
no,
but
you
know
if
it
goes
to
the
working
group.
Obviously
now
we
know
that
you
know
that
the
the
outcome
will
be
will
be
slanted
and-
and
we
won't
get
an
honest
report
back
from
staff
and
that's
what
I'm
looking
for
here
I
mean
it.
Can
you
know
q2
2021,
it's
not
a
tremendous
amount
of
work.
N
N
So
you
know
I'd
really
like
to
see
something
come
out
of
today
that
you
know
that
is
a
a
cue
to
people
out
there
who
who
need
our
help
again,
that
we're
that
we're
listening
to
refer
it
back
and
tell
you
know.
I
think
that
it's
clear
now
that
the
chair
doesn't
want
to
have
anything
to
do
with
one
aspect
of
it.
I
think
the
mayor
made
it
clear
that
he
feels
that
it's
already
happening,
although
it
isn't
the
equipass
and
a
community
pass,
is
not
a
sliding
scale.
N
F
K
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
It's
myself
councillor
mckinney
and
commissioner
carricotto
were
the
three
identified,
along
with
a
number
of
staff,
the
treasurer,
the
general
manager
and
several
other
managers
from
oc
transport.
That
would
help
make
sure
that
we
get
all
the
right
information
on
the
table
to
present
to
the
commission
on
these
options.
F
Yeah,
it's
a
in
my
view,
it's
a
duplication
of
the
effort.
I
I
like
taking
opportunity
counselor
moffat,
to
clarify
my
comments
on
eliminating
the
means
test.
The
the
me
expressing
the
likelihood
of
something
like
that
getting
approved
by
the
commission
without
a
major
outcry
by
taxpayers.
It's
not
predetermined.
We're
certainly
going
to
look
at
it.
There's
a
way
to
do
things
where
we're
going
to
do
it.
The
the
goal
of
the
working
group
is
to
try
to
serve
these
customers
even
better
than
we're
doing
it
today.
K
Yeah,
I
know-
and
I
don't
think
I
think
I
mean
like
I
agree
with
you-
I
don't
think
councillor
mckinney
wants
you
know
to
create
a
situation
where
I
can
get
a
cheaper
pass.
I
think
she's
looking
at
the
lower
income
folks
who
don't
currently
take
transit
that
if
they
could
so
ultimately
I
find
that
you
know
the
two
options
are
virtually
the
same.
K
G
On
referral,
mr
mayor,
I
I
too
agree
with
counts
from
off
it.
Perhaps
the
way
to
to
refer
it
is
to
make
sure
that
we
get
an
actual
breakdown
and
debrief
on
the
particular
matter
of
the
mean
testing.
I
don't
know
if
that,
if,
if
that
could
be
added
to
the
direction,
if
it
is
referred
just
looking
to
you
and
the
clerks
on
on
process,
because
I
I
too
agree
with
scott,
I
think
we're
getting
to
the
same
thing,
but
I
think
counselor
mckenny's
point
is
really
getting
to.
G
A
G
A
Yeah,
that's
the
motion
before
us
is
on
referral
and
I
guess
the
reason
I
moved
I'm.
The
mover
of
referral
is
that
the
original
motion
wants
to
get
rid
of
the
means
test,
but
wants
to
have
a
sliding
scale.
Well,
how
do
you
determine
who
fits
into
the
sliding
scale?
If
you
don't
have
a
means
test,
because
it
just
is
not
making
a
whole
lot
of
sense?
I
think
it's
better
to
take
this
offline,
bring
it
to
the
working
group
that
was
established
to
look
at
these
things.
A
G
A
G
A
Therefore,
be
it
resolved.
The
city
study
the
power
to
impose
an
optional
property
tax
on
the
assessment
of
vacant
residential
units,
including
an
analysis
of
potential
revenue
and
report
back
by
the
end
of
the
second
quarter
of
2021
on
the
feasibility
and
viability
of
implementing
such
a
tax.
Just
briefly
on
this,
this
is
timely
on
a
number
of
fronts.
A
As
you
know,
toronto
announced
a
similar
decision
about
a
week
or
so
ago
in
the
globe
and
mail
today
and
encourage
members
of
council
to
read
the
lead
or
the
only
editorial
in
today's
globe
and
mail
that
talks
about
vancouver's
success
and
how
the
numbers
went
down
as
well
as
mentioning
us
and
the
city
of
toronto.
Moving
forward
with
this
particular
initiative,
we
had
great
success.
For
instance,
when
I
brought
forward
the
recommendation
with
respect
to
businesses
being
vacant
and
and
receiving
that
favorable
tax
status.
A
The
treasurer
tells
me
that's
saving
us
several
million
dollars
a
year.
I
noticed
councillor
mckinney.
There
was
a
fire
and
an
abandoned
building
on
your
in
your
ward.
Just
two
days
ago.
I
think
on
summerset.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
it
was
all
boarded
up.
I
know,
councillor
leaper
has
many
many
buildings
throughout
his
neighborhood
that
are
boarded
up,
they've
become
both
an
eyesore,
and
you
know
some
sometimes
dangerous
when
people
are
squatting
in
these
buildings
and
setting
them
on
fire
and
so
on.
A
So
I'd
urge
members
of
council
to
support
the
motion.
I
thank
councillor
mckinney,
mr
housing
liaison
for
her
support
of
this
initiative
and
I
hope
that
we
get
a
unanimous
vote
that
we
can
go
back
to
the
province
and
ask
for
this
authority
that
could
potentially
bring
in
hundreds
of
thousands,
if
not
millions,
of
dollars
and
really
spur
these
absentee
and
sometimes
slum
landlords
getting
their
act
together
and
not
allowing
these
buildings
to
deteriorate
to
the
point
where
they
become
a
safety
hazard
in
the
community.
E
E
I
just
wanted
to
know
for
clarification,
though,
when,
when
this
is
being
brought
forward,
will
there
be
a
definition
of
what
we
mean
by
vacant
properties
so
once
again,
there's
a
very
strong
difference
between
a
derelict
property
or
even
a
long-term
vacant
property
and
a
property
that
is
left
empty
by
people
who
are
sobers
going
down
to
florida?
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
have
some
clarity
on
the
definition
of
what
is
vacant.
A
Yeah
there
will
be.
I
know
I
don't
know
if
the
treasurer
wants
to
comment
on
this,
but
you
know
there's.
Obviously
things
like
if
a
house
is
having
a
difficult
time
selling
and
it's
empty
we're
not
going
to
go
and
put
the
tax
on
on
them,
but
we'll
use
some
of
the
examples
that
they
used
in
vancouver.
B
E
F
Thank
you
mayor
and
mayor.
Thank
you
very
much
for
bringing
this
forward.
It's
it's
a
tool
that
the
residents
of
kitchissippi
are
very
much
looking
forward
to
having
and
I
hope,
we're
successful
in
achieving
it.
Just
a
quick
point
of
clarification
on
my
support
for
the
motion.
I
actually
hope
we
don't
bring
in
you
know
a
lot
of
money
from
a
vacant
property
tax.
The
goal
of
the
vacant
property
tax
has
to
be
to
ensure
that
properties
aren't
vacant
and
that
they
are
housing
people.
F
B
B
B
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mayor
just
want
to
be
on
record
as
saying
thank
you
for
bringing
this
forward.
I
think
that
it's
important
that
we
ensure
that
buildings
in
our
city
are
are
kept
in
good
repair
or
not.
You
know
we
do
what
we
can
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
sit,
boarded
up
for
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
and
you
know
safety
being
one
of
them.
N
Obviously,
when
you
have
holes
in
your
streetscape
and
street
front,
it's
you
know,
gaps
that
these
empty
buildings
create
it's.
It
brings
down
the
entire
neighborhood
and
people
should
you
know
people
who
own
property
should
be
responsible
for
that.
So
I
strongly
support
this
and
hope
that
it,
for
the
most
part
allows
you
know,
compels
people
to
to
to
develop,
but
if
not
to
have
that
that
funding
for
affordable
housing
is
certainly
a
very
positive
step.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
Yes,
I
support
this
motion.
I
just
want
to
add
that
all
situations
aren't
the
same
and
that
we
should
look
at
getting
rid
of
vacant
houses
for
sure,
and
I
want
to
give
a
thanks
to
our
legal
staff,
because
I've
got
a
situation
where
we
have
abandoned
properties
where
there's
no
owner
anymore,
as
it
were,
numbered
companies
etc
and
we're
working
through
it
all
and
it
turns
out.
I
Cra
is
the
lien
on
it,
and
I
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
appreciation,
because
when
canada
revenue
agencies
to
lean
on
the
property,
you
got
a
lot.
You
got
a
lot
of
negotiations
to
do
and
and
that's
another
complication-
and
I
don't
know
how
many
other
situations
end
up
doing
having
this
situation.
I
A
Great
thank
you.
Anyone
else
wish
to
speak
so
just
to
follow
up
on
something
counselor,
leaper
indicated.
The
ideal
situation
is
that
this
does
not
become
a
a
big
source
of
revenue
for
us,
but
in
fact
it
spurs
owners
on
to
get
these
homes
occupied
by
either
tenants
or
family
members.
But
in
those
cases
where
that
is
not
happening,
100
of
the
money
would
go
back
into
affordable
housing
for
the
city
of
ottawa.
So
thank
you
for
everyone's
comments
and
on
the
motion
carried
very
adapting
I'll.
A
A
That
provides
impressive
views
of
the
river
parliament
hill
and
le
breton
flats,
but
is
currently
out
of
service,
whereas
the
city
of
ottawa
purchased
the
currently
out
of
service
railway
bridge
from
canadian
pacific
railway
in
2005
for
a
future
longer
term
transit
crossing
and
whereas
the
city
has
an
obligation
to
maintain
the
structure
and
perform
periodic
inspections.
Evaluations
to
assess
the
condition
ensure
integrity
of
the
bridge,
whereas
the
prince
of
wales
bridge
is
being
retained
as
a
future.
A
Rail
transit
bridge
in
the
city's
three-year
plan
is
filed
by
the
canadian
transportation
agency
and
whereas
the
prince
of
wales
bridge
is
an
asset
that
can
be
improved
to
elevate
active
transportation
between
ottawa
and
gatineau
as
an
interim
use
and
would
serve
as
an
interprovincial
link
for
cycling,
commuters,
recreational
users
and
visitors
and
whereas
preparing
the
bridge
for
an
interim
use,
would
require
structural
repair,
work
permits
and
approvals
to
begin
construction,
including
environmental
assessment
of
design.
That
will
take
time
to
complete
and
obtain.
A
A
Prince
of
wales
bridge
peer
work,
which
contains
funds
for
the
rehabilitation
of
bridge
piers,
whereas
staff
reviewed
opportunities
to
phase
the
the
peer
rehabilitation
work
on
the
bridge
and
determine
that
540
000
could
be
reassigned
to
the
ea
and
design
and
the
bridge
deck
modification
into
a
multi-use
pathway,
from
the
account
for
the
prince
of
wales
bridge
peer
work,
908
990,
without
impacting
the
rehabilitation
plans
of
the
structure
as
peer
works
can
be
priorized
with
the
remaining
funds
and
completed
in
phases.
Therefore
be
it
resolved.
The
council
authorized.
A
The
use
of
existing
funds
of
the
prince
of
wales
bridge
account
908
990
to
undertake
environmental
assessment
and
design
work
for
the
interim
use
of
the
prince
of
wales
bridge
is
a
multi-use
pathway,
be
it
further
resolve
the
council
direct
the
general
manager,
planning
infrastructure
and
economic
development
to
notify
council
via
memo
upon
the
approval
of
the
environmental
assessment
and
provide
further
details
of
the
detailed
design
of
the
multi-use
pathway
being
further
resolved.
The
council
further
authorized
the
city,
once
appropriate.
A
Funding
of
the
project
becomes
available
from
another
level
of
government
to
proceed
with
the
construction
of
the
multi-use
pathway.
With
the
concurrence
of
the
city
treasurer
and
the
general
manager,
planning
infrastructure
and
economic
development,
so
that
is
seconded
by
councillor
leeper,
it's
it's
literally
the
dividing
line
between
councillor
mckinney's,
ward
and
councillor
leepers
ward
and
I
believe
both
obviously
councilor
lieber
is
supportive
and
I
believe
councilor
mckinney
is
supportive.
It
would
be
a
great
alternative
for
cyclists
and
pedestrians
to
use
that
to
go
into
gatineau.
A
I
L
Clutier,
thank
you,
your
worship
before
I
introduce
the
motion.
I
didn't
have
the
opportunity
myself
to
to
thank
the
auditor
general
in
this,
his
final
council
meeting
and
it's
with
mixed
emotions
that
I
say
thank
you
to
him.
He's
been
a
well-respected
figure
at
city
hall,
since
2000's,
an
auditor
general
since
2013.
L
B
L
L
The
third,
whereas
refers
to
motions
that
were
approved
in
may
this
year
to
start
the
search
for
new
auditor
general,
the
fourth,
whereas
talked
about
the
challenges
that
hiring
panel
has
had
with
respect
to
to
finalizing
its
decisions
for
a
new,
a
new
auditor
general
and
that
it
requires
more
time.
The
fifth
one
discusses
the
the
causes
in
the
municipal
act,
where
the
auditor
general
can
delegate
his
powers
to
other
persons.
L
Therefore
be
it
resolved
that
city
council
direct,
the
auditor
general
hiring
panel
to
report
back
council
by
2021
with
a
recommended
candidate
for
council's
approval.
As
the
new
auditor
general,
we
had
further
resolved
that
upon
expiration
of
ken
hughes's
appointment
as
auditor
general
on
december
31st,
2020,
deputy
auditor,
general
sonja,
brennan
and
ed
miner
shall
operate
the
office
of
the
auditor
general
on
an
interim
basis
in
accordance
with
their
delegated
statutory
powers
and
duties.
L
As
described
in
this
motion
and
pursuant
to
any
requirements
relating
to
the
auditor
general
under
the
municipal
act
2001
and
the
bylaw
2013
375,
as
amended
until
the
new
auditor
general
is
appointed
and
the
final
therefore
be
resolved.
That
council
waived.
The
requirements
set
out
in
subsection
11
1
of
bylaw
2013
375,
as
amended
for
the
current
auditor
general
to
submit
to
council
an
annual
audit
plan
for
2021
with
council
to
issue
further
direction
to
the
new
auditor
general
upon
appointment.
Regarding
the
timing
of
an
interim
audit
plan,.
F
Thank
you.
Could
the
clerk's
team
please
put
that
motion
back
up,
there's
just
something
in
the
first,
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
I
wanted
to
ask
the
mover
for
clarity
on.
I
think
I
don't
want
to
assume,
but
I
think
the
intention
is
to
have
a
recommendation
back
to
council
by
the
end
of
q1
2021,
and
if
that's
the
case,
would
you
accept
as
a
friendly
amendment,
though
we
add
the
word
by
the
end
of
q1,
of
2021.
L
A
G
Therefore,
it
resolved
that
council
approved
demolition
control
for
the
existing
building
on
the
property
subject
to
the
following
condition:
one
that,
until
the
time
of
the
construction
of
the
first
replacement
building
the
registered
owner
shall
landscape
the
property
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
general
manager
of
planning
infrastructure
and
economic
development.
The
registered
owners
shall
prohibit
the
use
of
the
property
for
other
interim
uses
and
maintain
the
property
in
accordance
with
the
property
standards
bylaw.
Two,
that
the
landscaping
of
the
property
shall
be
finalized
in
collaboration
with
city
staff.
G
Three,
oh
sorry
about
that
three.
That
owners
shall
pay
100
securities
to
the
city
for
the
value
of
the
landscaping
prop
property
for
the
securities
to
be
released
once
these
works
are
completed.
Four:
the
owner
agrees
that
the
discretion
of
the
general
manager,
planning
infrastructure
and
economic
development
department,
a
replacement
building,
must
be
substantially
completed
within
five
years.
From
the
date
of
this
approval,
and
in
default
thereof,
the
clerk
shall
enter
into
a
collector
role.
G
To
sum
of
5000
for
the
residential
dwelling
to
be
demolished,
five,
the
registered
owners
shall
enter
into
an
agreement
with
the
city
of
ottawa
to
include
the
foregoing
conditions
and
pay
all
costs
associated
with
the
registration
of
said
agreement.
As
such
time
as
the
billing
permit
is
issued
to
redevelop
the
site
and
a
replacement
building
is
in
place,
the
agreement
will
become
null
and
void
and
will
be
released
upon
request
of
the
owner.
The
owner
shall
pay
all
costs
associated
with
the
release
of
of
the
agreement.
G
Six,
the
owner
agrees
that
the
demolition
permit
will
not
be
issued
and
the
building
cannot
be
demolished
until
such
time
that
the
agreement
references
herein
has
been
executed
and
registered
on
title
seven.
This
approval
is
considered
null
and
void
if
the
agreement
is
not
executed
within
six
months
of
council
approval.
A
A
A
G
Whereas
the
city
of
ottawa
is
committing
to
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
whereas
the
city
is
planning
to
install
24
new
on-street,
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
at
12
stations
across
ottawa,
whereas
these
stations
are
being
installed
as
part
of
the
street
parking
facility
improvements
and
to
increase
uptake
in
electric
vehicles
in
ottawa,
whereas
switching
from
gas
from
gas
and
diesel
to
electric
vehicles
is
one
of
the
most
important
actions
required
to
meet
ottawa's
target
to
reduce
ghg
emissions
by
100
by
2050.
Whereas
to
meet
this
target
by
by
2030
90
of
new
vehicles.
G
Sold
will
be
elect
will
have
to
be
electric.
Therefore,
be
it
resolve
that
ottawa
city
council
request
that
the
ottawa
police
services
board
ask
the
ottawa
police
services
to
work
with
the
city
of
ottawa
and
its
partner
partners
in
vari,
an
affiliate
of
hydro
ottawa
to
support
under
the
zero
emission
vehicle
infrastructure
program,
to
complete
an
assessment
in
2021
to
determine
if
an
electric
vehicle
pilot
project
can
be
implemented
by
the
ottawa
police
services.
Where
operationally
feasible.
P
Thank
you,
your
worship.
I
will
summarize
the
whereases.
Basically,
this
motion
is
a
response
to
residents
advocacy.
That's
began
in
2018
and
in
the
spirit
of
reconciliation
with
first
nations.
People
who
reside
in
in
the
nation's
capital.
I've
been
working
with
the
lyndon
lee
community
in
rita
rockliffe
to
see
lajava
avenue.
Renamed
avenue
was
named
for
a
founding
father
of
confederation,
who's
considered
a
key
architect
of
the
residential
school
system.
P
That
council
approved
that
la
java
avenue
located
in
rita,
rockliffe
ward
13,
be
renamed
command
away
and
be
it
further
resolve
that
council
direct
staff
in
the
addressing
and
science
branch
of
building
code
services
work
with
the
ward
councillor
to
implement
discrete
name
change
in
a
timely
manner,
while
respecting
the
timelines
issued
by
canada
post
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
all
costs
related
to
the
street
renaming,
including
name
change,
fee
blade
signs
and
posts.
Notifications
along
with
any
subsequent
unveiling,
will
be
funded
through
the
counselor's
office.