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Ottawa City Council meeting and City of Ottawa Media Availability — 2023/05/24
B
All
right
we're
going
to
get
started
everyone
good
morning.
Everyone
we've
sorted
out
the
audio
issues
so
we'll
get
started
so
I
will
now
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
for
those
who
are
able
please
rise
for
a
moment
of
personal
reflection,.
B
As
we
begin
our
meeting
today
and
on
behalf
of
Ottawa
city
council,
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
Ottawa
is
built
on
unseated
anishinaabe,
Algonquin
territory.
The
peoples
of
the
anishinaabe
Algonquin
Nation,
have
lived
on
this
territory
for
millennia,
their
culture
and
presence
have
nurtured
and
continue
to
nurture
this
land.
The
city
of
Ottawa
honors,
the
peoples
and
land
of
the
anishinaabe
Algonquin
nation
and
honors
all
First
Nations,
Inuit
and
metis
peoples
and
their
valuable
past
and
present
contributions
to
this
land.
B
C
B
Public
Works
week
focusing
on
infrastructure
facilities
and
services
that
are
important
in
fact
vital
to
our
communities.
Public
Works
professionals
make
an
impact
on
our
daily
lives
and,
on
behalf
of
the
city
of
Ottawa,
we
want
to
thank
all
of
the
members
of
our
teams
in
these
areas
for
continually
and
consistently
rising
to
the
challenges
that
we
face
and
working
to
improve
city
services.
B
B
Proclamation
that
therefore
I
Mark
Sutcliffe,
mayor
of
the
city
of
Ottawa,
do
hereby
Proclaim
May
21st
to
the
27th
2023
National
Public
Works
week
in
Ottawa
and
I
encourage
all
our
citizens
to
pay
tribute
to
our
Public
Works
professionals
and
to
recognize
the
substantial
contributions
they
make
to
protecting
our
health
safety
and
quality
of
life.
B
D
B
You
all
right
item
five
confirmation
of
minutes
from
the
council
meeting
of
May
10
2023
are
the
minutes
carriage.
Are
there
any
Declarations
of
Interest.
B
I'll
note
the
communications
from
the
association
of
municipalities
of
Ontario,
and
we
item
made
his
response
to
inquiries
and
I
know
that
councilor
Brockington
wants
to
lift
that
inquiry
response
because
he
has
a
direction
for
staff
on
that.
So
if
it's,
the
will
of
council
we'll
allow
that
to
happen,
is
everybody?
Okay,
with
that?
G
Thank
you,
Marin
colleagues.
Yes,
this
direction
is
coming
out
of
discussion
and
events
that
happened
this
past
winter,
with
respect
to
extreme
cold
that
we
have
and
working
with
staff
I
have
the
following
direction:
that
community
and
social
services
staff
be
directed
to
release
the
location
of
shelters
or
other
appropriate
sites
such
as
temporary
physical,
distancing
centers
for
those
who
need
overnight
support
as
part
of
initial
Communications
about
extreme
weather
events,
recognizing
that
some
addresses
cannot
be
released
for
safety
and
or
legal
reasons.
G
B
Thank
you
item.
Nine
regrets.
As
you
know,
counselor
Tierney
is
not
here
he's
way
on
business,
with
the
Federation
of
Canadian
municipalities,
so
motion
to
introduce
reports,
councilor
dudas.
I
Thank
you
that
the
report
from
the
emergency
preparedness
and
protective
services
committee
report
for
planning
and
housing
committee
report
nine
and
the
report
from
the
city
clerk
entitled
summary
of
oral
and
written
Republic's
missions
for
items
subject
to
the
planning
act.
Explanation,
requirements
at
the
city
council,
meeting
of
May
10
2023
be
received
and
considered
and
that
the
rules
of
procedure
be
suspended
to
receive
and
consider
Community
Services
committee
report
3
due
to
the
time
sensitivity
of
the
item
contained
in
the
report.
J
J
J
C
C
B
K
We
know
in
word
12
that
Emergency
Shelters
are
not
a
solution.
We've
had
two
children
die.
C
K
B
L
You
very
much
Mr
Mayor
and
just
a
couple
of
questions
for
for
staff
on
this.
The
the
report
does
state
that,
in
addition
to
the
dedicated
homelessness
funding
portfolio
of
the
city,
funds,
unforeseen
costs
to
pay
for
off-site
hotels
and
motels
for
families.
L
C
L
I
guess
the
the
question
is:
what
is
our
strategy
for
foreign.
L
Bottle
of
running
from
emergency
to
emergency
in
terms
of
of
shelter
and
trying
to
invest
those
funds
instead
in
permanent,
affordable
housing
that
can
House
people
instead
of
I
think
benefiting
hoteliers
in
the
city
to
a
great
degree
for
for
quite
a
lot
of
expense.
I
think
we
can
start
to
change
that
model
here
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
counselors
around
the
the
table
that
have
been
speaking
about
that
since
last
term
as
well
and
I
hope
that
we've
got
a
strategy
in
place
that
moves
us
move.
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Menards.
Anyone
else
on
this,
okay
is
the
are
the
recommendations
carried
all
right?
Thank
you.
Moving
to
item
15,
there
are
no
in-camera
items.
B
Item
16
disposition
of
items
approved
by
committees
under
delegated
authority.
Is
that
received
item
17
motion
to
adopt
reports,
counselor
dudes.
I
That
the
report
from
the
community
services
committee
report
three
emergency
preparedness
and
protective
services
committee
report
for
planning
and
housing
committee
report,
nine
in
the
report
from
the
city
clerk
entitled
summary
of
oral
and
written
public
submissions
for
items
subject
to
the
planning
act.
Explanation
requirements
at
the
city
council,
meeting
of
May
10
2023,
be
received
and
adopted
as
amended.
B
B
From
18.2
is
a
motion
from
counselor
dudes
on
National,
Health
and
Fitness
day
promotion.
The
notice
of
motion
was
previously
given
on
May
10th
and
there
there
have
been
some
slight
amendments
to
this
motion.
I
understand
councilor
dudas,
yes,.
I
Very
slight
I'll
read
the
therefore
be
resolved
and
then
open
up.
The
questions
if
need
be,
therefore
be
resolved.
That
city
council
declares
Saturday
June
3rd
2023
to
be
National,
Health
and
Fitness
day
in
Ottawa,
and
be
a
further
resolved.
That
city
council
approved
that
the
city
extend
to
adults,
free
admission
for
public
swimming
at
select,
city-operated
swimming
pools
and
City
operated
weight
and
cardio
rooms,
as
well
as
a
free
virtual
Zumba
class
on
Saturday
June
3rd
2023,
in
recognition
of
the
2023
National
Health
and
Fitness
day.
P
B
Q
You
and
thank
you
for
seconding
my
motion
mayor,
so
I'll
just
read
the
therefore
be
result
so
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
cancel
approved
the
road
closure
for
Somerset
Street
West
from
Bronson
Avenue
and
Empress
Street.
The
road
closure
will
begin
at
8
pm
on
Thursday
June,
1st
2023
and
end
at
5
a.m,
on
Monday
June,
5th
2023
for
the
Ottawa
Chinatown
Night
Market,
providing
it
meets
the
requirements,
conditions
and
approval
of
the
special
events,
advisory,
team
and
I
hope.
I
see
you
all
out
there.
The
food
is
delicious.
It's
a
really
great
time.
B
We
can
all
do
Zumba
there
as
well.
Okay,
is
the
motion
carried?
Thank
you
item.
18.4
is
the
motion
from
counselor
Hubley
regarding
waste
management
and,
like
the
previous
motion,
there's
there's
been
some
amendments
to
this
counselor
Hubley,
but
go
ahead
and
speak
to
this
okay
and.
R
So
the
motion
reads
now,
whereas
the
city
bar
was
declared
a
climate
and
housing
emergency
and
whereas
the
city
of
Ottawa
is
dealing
with
an
expiring
landfill
and
whereas
the
residents
of
our
city
produce
180,
000
tons
of
garbage
a
year
currently
and
whereas
cities
around
the
world
across
the
country
and
even
just
outside
our
own
Municipal,
boundaries
have
chosen
to
divert
waste
from
landfill,
and
many
of
these
cities
are
currently
using
various
Technologies,
such
as,
but
not
limited
to
incineration
and
other
waste
aversion
methods
that
convert
waste
to
energy
and
whereas
it
is
prudent
for
the
city
of
Ottawa
to
address
the
long-term,
solid
waste
needs
of
our
city
that
both
benefit
residents,
taxpayers
and
the
environment.
R
Council
approved
Vision,
guiding
principles
and
goals
and,
finally,
be
it
further
resolved
that,
following
council's
receipt
of
the
draft
Solid
Waste
master
plan
staff
be
ready
to
conduct
a
feasibility
study
and
business
case
for
council's
preferred
alternative
disposal.
Technology,
including
a
through
Market,
sounding
to
understand
the
various
Contracting
models,
as
well
as
benefits
and
risks
of
the
preferred
approach,
all
of
which
will
be
presented
to
council
as
soon
as
practical,
but
no
later
than
by
the
end
of
the
2022-2026
term
of
council.
R
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Hubley,
councilor,
Carr,
sorry,
Council.
Let's
go
to
council
Bernard!
First
sorry
thanks.
L
Thanks
very
much
Mr
Mayor
I
hope
you
can
hear
me.
Okay,
I
I
just
have
some
questions
for
staff
on
the
motion.
It
seems
like
a
lot
of
misinformation
is
being
caused
by
this
motion.
I
think
that's
what
that's
what
happens
when
the
process
isn't
really
followed
with
the
solid
waste
master
plan
and
the
committee
where
this
is
housed.
It
appears
that
some
believe
that
an
incinerator
will
replace
the
need
to
move
forward
and
approve
a
new
curbside
diversion
policy
can
Steph.
Please
comment
on
that.
M
Foreign
in
terms
of
regardless
the
technology
that's
selected
at
the
end,
whether
it's
a
disposal
site
whether
it's
an
inciderator,
whether
it's
a
wasted
energy
facility,
there
will
still
be
a
requirement
to
increase
our
diversion
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
examples
that
we
can
point
to
is
our
is
a
Durham
municipality
that
do
have
an
inciderator
that
was
built
probably
around
2016
and
as
part
of
that
approval
process
from
the
ministry.
There
is
a
requirement
for
the
city
to
increase
its
diversion
Target,
so
one
doesn't
negate
the
other
they're.
Really
it's.
L
M
Mr
Mayor:
we
only
have
preliminary
findings
right
now
and
we'll
have
more
detail
to
provide
us
part
of
the
solid
waste
master
plan
in
the
in
the
fall.
But
our
estimates
right
now
would
range
between
300
and
450
million.
So
that's
whether
it's
a
landfill
site,
an
incinerator
or
waste
of
energy
facility.
L
Yeah
and
I
understand
that's
the
most
expensive
of
all
of
the
options
we
have
in
front
of
Us
increasing
taxpayer
funds.
That
would
have
to
go
to
something
like
that
in
comparison
to
other
models.
Does
the
motion
do
anything
that
wasn't
already
in
the
staff
work
plan
and
would
it
commit
Ottawa
to
mass
burn
incineration
or
or
waste
to
energy.
M
I,
don't
think
that
the
motion
has
written,
commits
a
city
to
anything
else
than
what
we're
planning
on
bringing
forward
as
part
of
the
master
plan
in
the
fall.
I
think
what
the
motion
does
is
just
reinforces
that
this
is
going
to
be
an
option
that
Council
recognizes
will
be
included
as
part
of
these
solid
waste
master
plan.
So
when
the
plan
comes
forward
as
a
surprise
to
council
to
see
the
suite
of
options,
that's
going
to
be
presented
to
them
at
the
time.
Okay,.
L
It
recognizes
that
an
option
is
to
explore
implementing
short-term
measures
like
like
tag
a
bag
or
recognizing
the
need
to
invest
in
a
new
landfill
or
turn
to
residuals
management
technology
over
the
medium
and
longer
term.
So
I
know
we've
done
that.
It
seems
clear
to
me
that
this
motion
is
is
redundant.
It's
it's
just
for
show
and
and
not
accomplishing
much.
L
Unfortunately,
so
you
know
happy
that
it's
going
to
be
referred
back
to
staff
or
the
process,
they
were
already
undertaking,
and
you
know
looking
forward
to
the
discussions
which
was
already
going
to
occur
as
part
of
the
process
that
we've
set
out
in
place
in
the
saw
waste
master
plan.
Thank
you
mayor.
S
Yes,
thanks
very
much
for
bringing
us
forward.
I
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
for
discussion
that
it's
created,
and
certainly
the
introduction
of
this
topic
has
generated
discussion
and
provided
an
extremely
healthy
boost
to
my
email
volumes.
S
I
do
believe
that
councilman
Menard
covered
off
the
question
that
I
was
seeking
with
respect
to
whether
or
not
we
would
still
require
the
proposed
curbside
waste
diversion
options
that
are
presented,
and
my
understanding
from
that
is
yes.
I
just
have
a
clarification
question
on
that.
S
My
understanding
of
the
curbside
waste
diversion
options
were
that
they
were
both
an
effort
to
not
only
increase
our
recycling
for
environmental
purposes,
decreased
Trail
Road
the
airspace
at
Trail
Road,
but
also
because
there
were
provincial
targets
that
needed
to
be
met
as
part
of
diversion.
If
we
were
to
move
forward
with
a
diver,
an
incineration
or
other
option,
would
we
still
need
to
meet
those
provincial
targets.
M
Mr
Mayor
there's
no
indication
right
now
that
the
province
would
move
away
from
the
targets.
The
The
Province
already
has
targets
when
it
comes
to
Organics,
they're,
basically
expecting
municipalities
to
achieve
a
70
percent
diversion
for
Organics
and
the
city
still
falls
short
of
that
of
that
Target
and,
as
indicated,
the
the
most
recent
example
is
Durham
region
and
Durham
region
is
further
approval
process.
There
is
a
requirement
as
part
of
the
approval
that
they
continue
to
increase
their
diversion
rate,
so,
as
I
mentioned
before,
one
doesn't
negate
the
other.
M
It's
not
one
or
the
other.
It's
really
both
that
need
to
go
hand
in
hand,
because
the
the
benefit
of
increasing
diversion
is
regardless
of
what
the
technology
is
going
to
be
at
the
end,
whether
it's
a
landfill
waste
of
energy
or
or
incinerator
increasing
the
diversion
targets
will
reduce
those
those
operating
costs.
U
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you,
mayor.
Those
questions
for
staff.
I
know
the
approval
of
a
new
landfill
or
any
expansion
of
landfill
probably
takes
about
10
10
years
I.
Believe
it
was.
Are
you
aware
of
what
what
sort
of
timeline
Durham
region
had
to
go
through
to
get
their
incinerator
from
start
to
finish
to
operational.
M
V
U
Okay,
thanks
very
much,
my
one
of
one
of
the
concerns
I
have
based
on
some
of
the
discussion
that
we've
been
having
is
I.
Think
the
cost
of
a
new
landfill
is
well
significantly
more
expensive
than
an
incinerator,
and
even
though
there
is
an
envelope
within
which
all
the
options
fall,
a
landfill
is
definitely
the
most
environmentally
damaging
and
the
heaviest
impact
in
terms
of
budget
I
grew
up
in
a
town
where
I
grew
up
in
a
town
that
introduced
a
bag
limit
and
I
know.
I
know.
U
Part
of
the
big
discussion
here
is
introducing
the
bag
limit.
I
grew
up
in
a
town
that
had
that
and
they
introduced
an
effective
Recycling
and
composting
service.
Alongside
with
the
bag
tag
and
a
limit,
and
in
the
end
it
was
actually
effective.
Recycling
and
composting
that
actually
drove
diversion
rates
up,
not
the
bag
tag
and
the
City
of
Markham
actually
eliminated
their
bag
limit
and
bag
tag
by
the
mid-2010s.
U
Because
of
that
so
I'm
I'm
more
in
favor
of
nudging,
our
residents
towards
improving
their
diversity
rather
than
posing
ourselves
upon
them
and
I.
Think
it's
worth
exploring
alternate
ways
of
increasing
our
diversion
and
improving
the
way
we
manage
our
waste,
rather
than
simply
placing
the
onus
on
a
onus
on
our
residence
all
the
time.
Thank
you.
T
Learn
about
incineration.
It's
basically
sending
pollutants
Up
in
Smoke,
I'm
very
concerned
and
I
I
saw
that
in
our
report,
Waste
Management
that
Staff
feel
the
same
and
they've
expressed
the
concerns.
It's
also
a
hefty
cost,
with
over
300
million
and
taking
up
to
15
years
to
be
fully
operated.
T
I
have
no
expertise
in
science,
but
I
happen
to
give
birth
to
someone
who
is
got
a
PhD
in
atmospheric
chemistry,
so
I
asked
them
and
they
said
anything
you
send
up
in
the
air
stays
there.
It's
not
a
good
option.
I
I
it
it's!
It
makes
it
sound,
easy
and
frankly,
I
think
it'll
discourage
people
from
diversion.
They'll
think
that
well,
don't
have
to
worry
about
it.
It's
just
going
to
be
burned
up,
so
I
I
have
a
lot
of
hesitancy
in
anything
about
incineration.
Thank
you.
M
Mr
Mayor
I
think
the
straight
answer
is
no.
There
will
always
be
a
requirement
for
landfill
as
much
as
we're
encouraging
residents
to
separate
their
waste.
Divert
increased
recycling,
increase
their
use
of
Organics,
there's
always
going
to
be
residual
waste
that
we
have
to
that.
We
have
to
manage
so
there's
always
going
to
be
a
need
for
an
endpoint,
whether
it's
a
landfill
incinerator
or
a
waste
of
energy
facility.
I
So
in
respect
to
this
particular
motion,
I
fully
agree
with
it.
It's
asking
staff
to
look
at
it
to
fully
investigate,
and
this
leads
to.
My
other
question
is
I
recall.
This
is
before
my
time
a
little
bit
but
I
recall
the
conversations
with
it
was
plasco
energy.
My
understanding
is
classical
energy
went
into
Predator
default,
and
the
city
had
ended
its
relationship
with
that
I'm.
I
Not
asking
you
to
to
talk
about
that
end
that
you
know
project
that
business
relationship,
but
has
City
staff
or
the
city
in
a
true
sense,
investigated
the
option
of
an
incinerator.
Since
that
time
have
you
done
the
leg
work
to
see
if
it
was
a
viable
option,
since
that
deal
fell
through.
M
Mr
Mayor
I'll
start
with
the
I'll
start
with
the
answer
and
then,
if
Shelley
McDonald
has
any
additional
information
to
share
a
lesser
to
step
in
so
I'm,
not
aware
that
since
classical
that
we've
done
anything
I
would
say
concrete
in
terms
of
incinerator
or
other
Technologies.
I
So
we
as
a
city
once
before
thought
that
incineration
was
a
viable
option
so
much
so
that
we
almost
went
to
the
the
nth
degree
of
of
having
this
business
relationship
and
building.
It
I
think
that
it's
prudent
for
us
to
look
at
all
options
as
part
of
the
solid
weight
smash
applying
the
timing
is
impeccable,
in
addition
to
just
asking
residents
to
do
more
to
go
to
the
nth
degree.
I
We
as
a
city
need
to
provide
leadership
and
say:
we've
turned
over
every
stone
and
looked
at
every
option
for
a
permanent,
viable
solution
to
our
waste
disposal.
So
I
am
very
much
in
favor
of
this
motion
and
I
would
encourage
my
colleagues
to
support
it
as
well
as
one
of
the
tools
in
our
toolbox
in
dealing
with
a
sustainable
option
to
our
solution
or
to
our
waste
problem.
G
M
Mr
Mayor
we're
looking
at
a
range
right
now.
The
latest
estimates
that
we
had
varied
between
2036
and
2038,
but
recognizing
that
that
could
vary
year
to
year,
depending
on
how
much
waste
we're
sending
to
the
landfill.
G
So
you
know:
that's
not
that
far
from
now
and
remind
us
again,
when
does
a
final
decision
need
to
be
made
on
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
the
end
of
the
day
the
end
of
the
landfill?
When
do
we
have
to
actually
make
a
decision.
M
Mr
Mayor
the
the
solid
waste
the
draft
Solid
Waste
master
plan
is
going
to
be
tabled
in
the
fall.
What
the
final
plan
being
approved
by
Council
in
early
2024,
and
at
that
point,
that
will
set
the
directions
for
the
next
steps,
around
directions
to
staff
related
to
the
longer
term
sighting
of
whatever
technology
is
being
used.
At
that
point,
it's
going
to
be
done
in
light
of
other
options
that
we're
going
to
be
presenting
to
council
around.
M
I'm
not
going
to
presuppose
basically
what's
going
to
be
in
the
master
plan
at
this
point.
I
think
it's
realistic
to
expect
that
in
that
30-year
time
frame,
we
will
have
far
surpassed
basically
the
capacity
at
Trail
Road.
So
there
are
other
options
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at.
So
that's
why
I
was
saying
that
the
demotion
as
presented
is
in
alignment
with
the
solid
waste
master
plan.
Just
helps
to
reinforce
the
fact
that
we
will
be
looking
at
different
Technologies
before
we
come
back
to
council
yeah.
G
That's
the
word
I
have
on
my
report,
counselor
car,
but
when
I
arrived
at
the
council
table,
the
plasco
matter
was
basically
winding
down
and
I
was
not
privy
to
those
preliminary
discussions.
So
I
I
don't
know
if
it
was
a
completely
private
sector-led
initiative,
whether
the
city
was
looking
for
a
partnership,
whether
the
city
was
reviewing
options
and
cooling
consideration,
and
we
had
called
for
proposals,
but
I
think
it
would
be
useful
as
a
takeaway
to
provide
basically
a
historical
outline
for
members
of
Council
on
that
deal.
G
So
we
could
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
happened
and
why
that
deal
fell
through
I.
Also
think
it
would
be
wise
for
staff
when,
if
this
motion
passes
and
talks
about
the
feasibility
to
give
us
some
some
background
and
information
on
what
other
jurisdictions
who
are
in
similar
circumstance
across
the
world
are
doing.
Are
they
agreeing
to
build
new
landfills
in
their
own
backyards
or
are
they
looking
to
incineration
or
other
options
to
deal
with
their
waste?
G
And
yes,
there
are
many
many
options
to
reduce
and
divert
waste
but,
as
you
even
admit,
Mr
general
manager,
we
will
still
have
waste
that
has
to
go
somewhere
at
some
point.
So
what
are
cities
and
other
jurisdictions
who
are
in
a
similar
position
as
us
that
have
to
make
a
decision
of
whether
or
not
they
build
a
new
landfill
or
not
doing
around
the
world?
What
are
they
deciding
on,
because
this
is
a
once
in
an
every
50
hundred
year
decision
and
so
what
are
modern
day
cities
doing
with
respect
to
their
waste?
G
As
far
as
those
big
decisions,
it's
part
of
the
waste
management
plan,
we
talk
about
the
need
to
make
blue
bin
blackbin
green
bin
mandatory.
Wouldn't
that
be
great
if
people
didn't
put
this
type
of
waste
in
their
garbage,
the
landfill,
the
need
for
multi-unit
buildings
to
have
organic
waste
collection
and
a
huge
missing
Gap
in
this
province,
the
ICI
is
the
industrial,
commercial
and
institutional
that
don't
have
to
recycle.
There's
no
requirement
for
these
sectors
to
recycle,
so
a
lot
of
waste
going
to
the
landfill.
G
Like
other
speakers,
I
I
don't
want
to
close
any
doors
on
on
options
before
us
and
I
do
believe
it's
wise
to
at
least
conduct
this
feasibility
study
to
get
this
information
to
feed
into
the
decisions
that
we're
going
to
be
forced
to
make
or
not
forced,
but
to
look
at
next
year
and
ultimately
need
to
make
some
decisions
and
that's
why
I
believe
it's
wise
to
support
the
motion
before
us
today.
Thank
you.
Thank.
W
Thank
you
mayor.
So,
although
the
motion
does
feel
somewhat
unnecessary
because
it,
it
seems
like
it's
leading
us
down
a
path
that
staff
is
is
already
handed
down.
I
am
generally
supportive
of
the
motion,
because
it
does
speak
to
an
urgency
and
a
clear
path
of
action
to
determine
the
best
options
for
our
future
and
because
it
does
reignite.
W
The
discussion
about
the
long-term
plan
and
I
have
been
studying,
proven
existing
successful
models
for
incineration
worldwide,
whether
it's
the
the
industry
leader
copenhill
in
Denmark
or
or
the
expansion
of
of
a
facility
in
PEI,
so
I
do
believe
that
there
could
be
Solutions
out
there
for
that
kind
of
model.
But,
like
some
of
my
colleagues
have
addressed,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
in
if
we
pass
this
motion
here
today,
we're
not
pre-determining
the
outcome
of
next
week's
debate.
W
We
need
I
do
believe.
We
need
to
consider
technology
technology-based
alternative
solution
to
landfill,
but
we
also
need
to
reduce
the
amount
of
garbage
we
produce
as
a
city
that
ends
up
in
our
landfill.
We
need
to
do
both
and,
like
Allen
Gontier
just
said,
the
two
solutions
need
to
go
hand
in
hand.
W
I
don't
want
us
to
fall
into
the
Trap
of
believing
that
technology
is
the
only
solution
to
this
problem.
Changing
human
behavior
needs
to
be
part
of
the
solution.
What
we
have
with
the
hugely
Brown
motion
is
the
possibility
for
a
technological
solution
and
what
we
have
with
the
pay.
As
you
throw
policy
addresses
our
Behavior
as
residents
in
terms
of
waste
reduction.
We
need
both
technology
and
a
greater
effort
from
residents
to
make
this
work.
W
X
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I'm
not
going
to
talk
about
the
report,
we're
going
to
leave
it
for
next
week,
but
I
have
a
couple
questions
to
staff,
I'm,
Mr,
gante
and
Miss
McAllen
in
July
2019.
We
did
approve
the
way.
The
solid
waste
master
plan
am
I
missing.
Something
on
that
or
am
I
correct
on
this.
X
We've
been
out
since
2019,
you
came
to
our
communities
and
we've
done
public
consultation,
and
you
heard
it
from
our
resident
that-
and
you
said
it-
that
every
option
is
on
the
table
and
you're
telling
me
today
that
you
haven't
looked
at
any
of
these
options
other
than
Durham.
By
the
way,
like
I
mean
you
keep
bringing
Durham,
but
there
is
many
other
technologies
that
work,
but
our
city
I
got
stuck
on
the
Durham
example.
M
Mr
Mayor
just
to
clarify
so
yes,
since
2019,
we
have
been
working
on
the
solar
waste
master
plan.
We've
provided
council
with
two
update
reports.
The
the
master
plan
was
undertaken
in
three
phases:
phases.
One
and
two
have
already
been
submitted
to
the
last
term
of
council.
So
what
we're
into
now
is
phase
three,
which
is
basically
the
last
phase
of
the
solid
waste
master
plan
as
part
of
that
process.
M
Yes,
there
was
extensive
public
engagement,
probably
one
of
the
most
extensive
engagement
process
that
we've
had
and
as
part
of
that,
we've
also
looked
at
different
technologies
that
are
available.
So,
yes,
we
have
been
proceeding
on
that
basis.
The
only
reason
why
I
brought
back
Durham
was
just
because
it's
a
more
recent
example.
M
It's
one
that's
close
to
home,
and
it's
one
that
just
reinforces
that,
even
as
part
of
an
incinerator,
projector
still
a
requirement
to
increase
diversion,
but
there's
many
other
examples
that
we're
also
going
to
be
able
to
include
the
room
is
only
one
of
many
that
we've
been
looking
into.
X
No
I
appreciate
it
and
the
reason
is
I
like
that
motion,
because
it
enforces
that
we
need
to
look
at
different
technology.
We
have
technology
in
coppingham,
Council
of
divine
just
mentioned
that
Germany
they
use
five.
They
generate
five
percent
of
the
energy
through
incinerator
and
we're
not
only
saying
about
things
generator.
There
is
multiple
other
technology
that
could
be
used
and
I'm,
hoping
that
this
motion
will
enforce
that,
because
we
need
to
look
at
solution
and
not
no
one's
saying
we
need
a
landfill
and
our
resident.
Really
we
keep
talking
about
diversion.
X
X
And
you
can't
tell
me
that
our
resident
and
we're
shaming
our
residents
are
not
doing
diversion,
because
if
you
drive
around
our
city,
our
residents
are
very
responsible
and
I
personally
think
before
you
go
out
and
and
look
at
the
resident
telling
them
they're
not
doing
good
job
by
shaming
them
and
telling
them
their
diversion
is
not
right.
I
think
you
should
look
up
into
your
operation
personally.
X
What
happened
to
that
10
year
we
keep
talking
about
and
where
is
the
time
gone
so
personally,
Mr
Mayor
I
think
before
we
go
out
and
start
telling
the
public
they're
not
doing
their
job
and
they're
not
diverting.
We
should
look
at
our
in
our
landfill
how
we
are
managing
and
then
we
need
to
look
at
all
these
examples,
and
we've
been
talking
about
for
three
years
and
we
come
out
and
we're
talking
to
the
resident
about
how
they're
gonna
put
their
garbage
on
the
curb
City.
X
Okay,
I
heard
that
someone's
talking
about
the
cost
we
bought
a
billion
of
dollars
to
build
an
LRT
system
to
serve
some
of
our
residents
and
people
forget
counselors,
you
are
responsible,
garbage
is
core
services
and
our
responsibility
is
to
pick
up
the
garbage.
It's
one
of
our
mandate
for
the
for
the
city
of
Ottawa
resume.
X
So
if
we
have
to
borrow
money
to
build
it,
and
then
we
keep
using
example
as
a
plus
course
and
other
technology
that
they
don't
want,
you
know
what
there
is
so
many
other
technology
does
work
and
I
don't
like
to
be
a
guinea
pig
of
any
technology.
Let's
find
technology
doesn't
work
and
that's
what
this
motion
demonstrates.
F
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
I,
like
many
of
my
colleagues,
have
very
significant
concerns
about
going
down
the
path
toward
incineration.
The
credible
assertions
that
we
see
over
and
over
again
are
significantly
increased
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
of
air
pollution
and
both
of
those
are
existential
threats.
F
They
are
the
wrong
direction
for
this
city
to
go
down,
but
I
have
also
been
urged
to
be
open-minded
by
residents
to
understanding
the
Technologies
and
and
getting
the
information
so
before
I
support
this
motion
today,
I
would
just
ask
staff.
Do
you
consider
that
this
motion
sets
us
down
a
path
toward
incineration
as
a
as
a
preferred
option
in
the
solid
waste
master
plan?
Do
you
I
I'm,
looking
at
some
of
the
post
recommendation,
steps
around
building
business
case,
viability,
studies,
ability,
studies
if
we
pass
this
motion
today?
F
M
Mr
Mayor
Noah
I,
don't
read
that
into
the
into
the
motion.
What
I
read
into
the
motion
is
that
Council
would
want
us
to
ensure
that
basically,
we
review
those
Alternatives
as
part
of
the
solar
waste
Master
Plan
before
we
come
back
to
you
in
the
fall,
which
is
what
we're
planning
on
on
doing
at
this
point,
we're
not
committing
to
a
final
outcome,
we're
committing
to
a
process
and
a
level
awareness
around.
What's
going
to
be
included
as
part
of
that
process
in
the
in
the
fall.
M
F
Will
that
reports
and
recommendations
come
with
fairly
clear
and
rigorous
comparisons
of
things
like
air
pollutants
and
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions
from
various
different
alternatives?.
M
F
F
This
motion
speaks
in
the,
whereas
Clauses
to
some
of
the
advantages
and
technologies
that
I,
don't
necessarily
agree
with,
makes
assertions
about
technologies
that
I,
don't
necessarily
agree
with,
and
the
risks
of
getting
it
wrong
are
so
huge
at
a
point
where
we
are
facing
an
existential
threat
from
air
pollution
and
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
F
That
has
to
be
our
primary
focus,
but
I
am
looking
forward
to
getting
the
analysis
that
staff
bring
back
to
us
and
I
would
ask
them
to
be
as
rigorous
and
clear
as
science
allows,
with
respect
to
a
comparison
of
those
different
options.
Thank
you.
B
R
If
you
go
to
me
last
and
is
that
just
wrap
up
because
I
have
questions,
so
that's
why
I
put
my
hand
up
is
to
ask
the
questions
now
and
then
do
the
wrap
up,
but.
B
Y
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Mayor
and
I
really
do
appreciate
the
good
discussion
today.
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
with
with
open
minds
on
this
and
I.
Appreciate
that
very
much.
You
know
we
really
do
need
to
stop
fooling
ourselves.
You
know
this.
This
is
an
issue.
That's
that's
going
to
catch
up
with
us
and
we've
been
avoiding
it
for
12
years.
Y
Y
You
know
bringing
a
new
and
expensive
program
online
to
extend
the
life
of
the
landfill
for
for
two
years
is
really
not
a
progressive
policy,
nor
is
it
acceptable
to
most
residents.
That's
why
this
motion
is
good.
We
need
a
long-term
plan
and
saddling
residents
with
a
new
tax
is
not
a
long-term
plan.
Y
It
may
suit
our
needs
in
the
short
term,
but
it's
not
a
long-term
plan
and
make
no
mistake.
If
you
give
Solid
Waste
Management
a
new
Revenue
stream,
it'll
it'll
never
go
away,
we'll
be
stuck
with
a
policy
that
will
disproportionately
punish
larger
families
and
poorer
families.
Y
There
are
other
issues
like
illegal
dumping
and
burning
I'll,
save
that
for
the
later
debate
at
at
environment
committee.
But
the
technology
is
is
out
there.
Y
It's
it's
being
used
in
in
Newark
in
Harrisburg
Pennsylvania
in
Fort,
Myers
Florida
in
Dickerson
Maryland
in
Vienna
Austria
in
Malmo
I'll
talk
about
that
one
in
a
minute
in
Brampton,
in
Stoke,
on
Trent,
in
Chester,
in
the
United
States
in
Middlesbrough,
in
greater
London
in
Metro
Vancouver,
a
New
Delhi,
there's,
there's
loads
of
examples
where
there's
where
there's
good
technology
for
for
waste
energy,
we're
not
talking
about
incineration.
Y
It's
a
bit
of
a
waste
we're
talking
about
waste
to
energy
like
the
sysav
waste
to
energy
plant,
which
I've
got
a
resident
by
name
of
Bernie
James.
That
calls
me
every
month
to
talk
to
me
about
this.
This
plant
so
I
hope
he's
listening.
Y
It
is
the
most
energy
efficient
plant
in
Sweden
and
as
well
as
it's
the
most
advanced
plant
in
the
world.
The
plan
includes
four
boilers
and
the
first
two
of
which
began
operation
in
1973..
This
has
been
an
option
since
1973.
the
two
Advanced
boilers
fitted
were
fitted
in
2003
and
2008
and
they're
steam
boilers
that
generate
electricity
and
District
Heating,
and
so
through.
This
they've
also
set
up.
You
know
not.
They
haven't
just
concentrated
on
this.
Y
They've
set
up
an
area
to
to
process
sort
store
and
recycle
waste
as
well.
So
specific
examples
include
sorting
bulky,
waste
composting,
chipping
wood,
recovering
Metals
as
well
and
reloading
this.
The
site
was
originally
designed
as
a
landfill,
but
only
a
small
portion
of
the
waste
actually
goes
into
landfill
at
the
two
sites.
Y
They
include
facilities
to
process,
household
and
Commercial
waste,
using
waste
combustion
to
recover
energy,
biological
treatment
for
Reuse
Recycling
and
then
the
small
landfill
instead
for
ways
that
that
can't
be
used
in
any
of
the
other
processes.
So
so,
coupled
with
adjacent
greenhouses,
we
could
be
using
the
excess
heat
created
to
grow
trees,
plants
and
other
Landscaping
features
without
much
cost
of
taxpayers
would
be
doing
that
year
round.
So
we're
not.
We
don't
have
to
be
buying
these
things.
We
could
be
growing
them
ourselves.
Y
We
could
save
a
lot
of
money
with
a
with
a
solution
like
this
and
we
can
offset
costs
as
well
that
that's
what
a
progressive
solution
looks
like
simply
kicking
the
can
down
the
road.
You
know
with
bag
tags
or
clandestiny.
Raising
taxes
is
not
a
progressive
solution.
We
can
do
better
and,
let's
find
out
what
better
looks
like:
let's
abandon
our
ideology
for
a
moment,
be
open-minded
and
better.
Yet,
let's,
let's
be
explicit
about
the
fact
that
we
want
to
be
open-minded
and
that's
exactly
what
this
motion
does.
Y
So,
let's
get
the
information
that
this
and
be
explicit
about
the
information
that
we
want
and
make
a
make
a
considered
decision,
instead
of
tying
ourselves
down
with
what
looks
like
a
short-term
solution,
but
will
actually
just
be
a
long-term
tax
on
on
that
will
disprofessionally
disproportionately
affect
large
families
and
and
people
without
a
means
to
pay
the
extra
thanks.
Thank.
Z
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Mayor
and
I'd
like
to
start
off
by
thanking
my
colleague,
councilor
Hubley,
for
his
partnership
on
this
and
for
staff,
support
and
drafting
this
motion.
I
know:
councilor,
Hubley
and
I
wish
to
be
very
clear
that
there's
no
misinformation
contained
in
this
motion.
In
fact,
its
goal
is
to
be
as
public
as
possible
with
solutions
that
could
help
us
address.
The
current
needs
to
divert
waste
but
also
ensure
that
we
have
a
long-term
solution
that
will
solve
our
waste
problems.
Z
I
know
that
some
colleagues
have
concerns
about
one
technology
over
another,
which
is
why
this
motion
is
very
broad.
We
want
to
ensure
that
every
option
is
on
the
table
that
we
have
command
of
all
of
the
facts
in
the
fall.
When
we
look
at
the
updated
Solid,
Waste
master
plan,
everything
needs
to
be
on
the
table,
so
we
can
have
an
open
and
honest
dialogue
with
our
residents.
Our
communities
and
our
colleagues
around
the
council
table
I.
V
Z
Technological
solution
to
address
the
city's
needs,
I
think
that's
responsible,
I,
think
it's
practicable
and
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day.
That's
what
residents
are
going
to
expect.
We
don't
want
to
say
not
in
my
backyard,
but
let's
go
forward
with
something
I'm
saying
my
community
is
ready
to
take
a
progressive
solution
and
implement
it
at
I
would
prefer
the
Trail
Road
waste
facility
or
another
suitable
site.
Z
I
also
know
that
any
solution
is
unlikely
to
be
cited
in
urban
Ottawa,
which
means
rural
Ottawa
will
have
to
step
up
and
bear
this
front,
which
is
why
my
interest
and
desire
is
finding
a
solution
that
will
work
for
us
all
around
the
table
again.
Mr
Mayor
I
think
this
is
timely.
We've
heard
from
staff
that
this
is
in
line
with
the
current
pathway
that
we're
on
it
helps
provide
that
Clarity
of
language
around
the
process
and
I'm
excited
to
see
the
options
that
will
come
forward
in
the
fall.
Z
So
I
do
encourage
my
colleagues
to
support
the
motion.
It
is
purely
for
informational
purposes.
We
are
not
asking
for
a
decision
to
be
decided
upon
today.
Rather,
we
are
asking
for
the
facts
to
come
forward,
so
we
can
make
an
informed
decision
that
will
affect
our
city
for
the
next
few
decades.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Mayor.
AA
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
and
I'd
like
to
sincerely
thank
both
councilor
Hughley
and
councilor
Brown
for
bringing
this
forward.
Counselor
Brown
does
have
the
municipal
landfill
in
his
Ward
I
I
have
one
in
mind
as
well,
so
we
it's
not
a
municipal
one,
it's
a
private
one,
but
it's
still
a
constant
reminder
of
how
quick
waste
builds
up
and
and
the
the
need
to
manage
it
in
a
more
efficient
fashion
and
and
use
it
to
our
advantage.
AA
So
I
I
I,
think
there's
a
lot
of
tools
to
to
look
at
and
and
use.
There's
a
and
and
I
would
like
to
also
point
out
that
the
waste
energy
is
not
a
New
Concept
and
we're
actually
already
doing
it
at
both
of
those
landfills
we're
just
not
using
incineration
as
the
tool
to
do
it
right
now.
So
I
think
looking
at
different
options
is
prudent
and
I.
Don't
I
don't
see
this
as
some
sneaky
motion
to
stop
any
diversion
efforts
from
happening.
AA
I
think
that
this
is
just
asking
staff
to
look
into
options
which
I
think
is
is
great
and
I
want
to
thank
the
movers
for
doing
that.
So
much
appreciated.
Thank
you,
mayor.
AB
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I,
like
so
many
of
my
colleagues,
think
we
need
to
explore
these
options,
so
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion
and
I
do
understand
that
this
work
was
already
underway
by
staff
personally
I'm
very
interested
to
learn
more
about
this
specific
technology,
but
for
the
sake
of
our
email
volumes,
I
do
hope.
The
public
and
the
media
are
hearing
that
we
did
not
make
a
decision
today.
We
are
just
requesting
more
information.
AB
I
do
have
a
question
though
counselor
DeRose
hinted
at
this,
but
a
2007
report
to
the
then
planning
and
environment
committee
said
that
the
revised
railroad
facility
site
life
was
approximately
42
years,
assuming
Baseline
2006
tonnage
or
39
years,
with
increased
tonnage,
so
2007
plus
39,
taking
the
higher
of
the
two
would
have
given
us
2046.
AB
A
solid
waste
road
map
in
2019
also
said
2046.
Then
in
2021,
the
annual
monitoring
update
the
life
expectancy
dropped
to
2036
and
I
know
that
a
recent
Memo
from
Public
Works
cited
the
same
figure
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
could
unpack
what's
contributed
to
the
loss
of
of
10
years
between
2019
and
2021,
it
seems
like
there
was
a
big
shift
in
our
Mass.
M
Yeah
I'll
start
with
the
answer
and
then
I'll
ask
Shelley
McDonald
to
step
in
with
the
details.
I
think
one
thing
to
appreciate
is
the
is
the
level
of
Technology
being
used
to
be
able
to
assess,
especially
the
remaining
airspace
capacity,
that's
available
at
the
landfill
site
and
that
certainly
has
improved
over
time,
which
means
that
basically,
some
of
the
projections
have
also
shifted
accordingly.
M
Plus
waste
continues
to
be
consumed
every
single
day
at
the
at
the
landfill,
so
that
is
also
subject
to
the
amount
of
waste
that
we're
taking
in
but
I'll.
Let
Shelly
elaborate
a
bit
more
on
the
on
the
specifics.
V
V
Regulatory
changes
change
as
well,
which
may
require
us,
which
had
require
us
to
close
certain
stages
of
the
landfill
earlier
than
what
it
would
have
been
a
previously
anticipated
when
those
approvals
had
taken
place,
and
you
can
appreciate
that
landfills
are
very
Dynamic
environments,
recognizing
that,
depending
on
the
weather
conditions,
as
well
as
depending
on
some
of
the
environmental
factors
that
come
into
play,
plays
a
part
in
how
we
place
waste
as
well
as
the
timing
for
for
when
those
cells
need
to
close.
So
it
it
is
a
continual
Evolution.
V
We
are
doing
things
in
order
to
try
to
make
the
most
of
the
current
airspace
that
we
have
available
to
us
doing
things
like
shredding
waste,
doing
things
by
using
different
types
of
machines
to
compact
the
material
and
also
looking
at
as
part
of
the
master
plan,
incorporating
new
diversion
options.
So
then
that
way
there
can
be
other
places
to
to
bring
some
of
bulky
waste
as
opposed
to
to
landfilling
them.
AB
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Sally
I
think
there's
probably
a
lot
of
interest
around
the
table
in
this,
so
could
I
perhaps
have
a
direction
of
staff
to
maybe
prepare
a
memo
on
sure
what
happened
there,
between
2019
and
2021,
to
shift
that
that
figure
would
that
be
Fair.
M
We
could
take
that
direction
away,
chair
or
a
mirror.
AB
E
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
Baron.
Thank
you
to
to
all
the
staff
that
prepared
the
the
work
not
just
for
this
motion,
but
also
for
the
the
broader
discussion
we're
going
to
have
next
week
and
to
my
colleagues
for
a
good
debate
on
this
topic
today.
Just
a
very
specific
question
to
staff
I
know
that
Solid
Waste
Management
is
not
a
unique
problem
to
the
city
of
Ottawa
and
I.
E
Just
want
to
ensure
that,
in
the
process
of
looking
at
this
over
the
next
four
to
six
months,
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
the
possibility
of
options
to
share
the
burden
with
other
municipalities
as
well,
for
example,
you
know
Gatineau
Montreal,
Kingston
other
places
that
are
also
having
Solid
Waste
Management.
You
know
issues
going
forward
because
perhaps
there
could
be
a
sharing
arrangement.
M
So
Mr
Mayor,
if
I,
can
just
comment
on
that.
The
stuff
I've
been
working
on
this
for
probably
the
past
four
years
in
terms
of
The
Soloist
master
plan
and
as
part
of
that
process,
there
has
been
a
lot
of
Engagement
with
other
municipalities,
other
organizations
to
really
better
understand,
basically
how
they're
managing
their
waste.
Some
of
the
options
that
they've
looked
at
even
in
Ontario
were
part
of
the
regional
Public
Works
organization.
M
That
has
basically
some
of
the
key
municipalities
across
the
city
and
there
is
a
solid
waste
subcommittee
as
part
of
that
of
which
Shelley
co-chairs
that
committee.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
Engagement
to
to
understand
what
others
are
doing
and
what
synergies
may
be
available
and
those
are
all
part
of
the
learnings
that
we're
going
through
and
that
we're
going
to
be
reporting
back
to
Council
in
in
the
fall.
E
Thank
you
very
much
just
to
be
clear.
I
know
that,
from
an
Ontario
perspective,
there's
there's
a
lack
of
an
invisible
boundary
there,
but
are
there
options
to
look
at
at
partnering
with
Gatineau
or
with
Quebec
Partners
as
well
or
is?
Is
that
barrier
just
too
too
big.
M
I
think
there's
always
partnership
opportunities,
I
think
when
we
start
crossing
boundaries,
things
get
a
lot
more
complicated
because
of
legislative
requirements,
but
certainly
in
Ontario.
Those
are
certainly
options
that
are
on
the
table
and
you've
seen
even
last
year
when
we
had
gfl
approach
the
city
with
they
were
having
issues
at
their
landfill.
They
required
basically
the
use
of
our
landfill
on
a
temporary
basis,
and
then
we
we
reciprocate
afterwards
I
think
there's
some
of
that
understanding.
M
R
You
Mr
Mayor,
so
colleagues
I
just
want
to
clear
up
some
information
here.
That's
been
put
on
the
table
this
motion
as
a
if
you
read
it
in
its
entirety.
What
we
are
asking
for,
what
katzel
brown
and
I
are
asking
for
is
for
staff
to
provide
more
information
about
all
the
options
we
didn't
zero
in
on
incineration.
You
know
just
outside
our
Municipal
boundary
in
the
Empire
area,
they're
using
steam
instead
of
incineration,
so
there's
other
choices
out
there
for
us.
R
What
we
want
by
this
motion
is
we're
asking
for
staff
to
give
us
all
the
choices,
so
the
council
can
make
an
informed
decision.
So
I've
got
some
concerns
with
some
of
the
information
that's
put
out
there
to
try
to
encourage
people
not
to
vote
for
this
motion,
one
of
which
is
the
cost
of
landfill
versus
incineration.
We
know
there's
a
huge
difference
and
guess
what
the
most
expensive
one
is
landfill,
there's,
probably
close
to
I.
R
Think
staff
would
agree
it's
somewhere
between
115,
sorry,
50
and
100
million
dollars,
likely
the
difference
between
incineration
and
landfill.
The
other
thing
is:
what's
the
cleanest
technology,
we
know
a
Durham,
for
example,
that
has
an
incinerator
in
Ontario
now
operating
a
license.
There's
also
emerald
and
the
federal
government
have
76
different
incinerators
operating
in
the
country
right
now,
but
let's
take
Durham.
They
have
to
report
every
day
on.
What's
in
their
stocks,
how
clean
they
are,
there's
a
threshold
as
to
how
high
they
can
go.
R
They
never
go
near
that
high
level
as
far
as
I've
ever
seen
in
the
reports,
but
the
reporting
out
of
Durham
is
that
it's
95
cleaner
than
landfill.
So
so
anybody
trying
to
tell
you
stick
with
landfill.
It's
cleaner
they're!
Really.
You
know
they
probably
have
some
swamp
plan.
They
want
to
sell
you
as
well.
It's
it's
misleading.
We
have
to
take
in
I'm
a
big
believer
in
evidence-based
decision-making.
R
That's
why
I
want
to
see
this
information
in
the
fall,
and
we
can
talk
about.
We
worked
on
this
motion.
Some
suggest
that
the
motion
is
misleading.
It's
not!
We
work
with
staff
to
put
this
together.
It's
questions,
there's
no
statements
of
facts
in
there
that
anybody
could
say
is
misleading.
Again.
That's
a
strategy
to
try
to
take
support
away
from
the
motion,
but
one
of
the
parts
of
this
motion
that
I
reluctantly
agreed
to
is
the
last
part
which
says
that
they
can
have
the
whole
term
to
report
back
to
me.
R
That's
an
attempt
to
push
this
to
another
term
of
counseling
I've
been
here
since
2010
with
councilor
Tierney
and
we've
watched
us
over
and
over
again,
we
will
keep
being
told.
Oh,
you
know
we're
going
to
report
back
and
guess
what
you'll
get
that
report
right
in
the
middle
of
the
next
election,
and
it
won't
be
your
Council
that
decides
it.
So
again,
this
gets
bumped,
as
counselor
kits
pointed
out,
we're
up
against
a
deadline.
We
can,
if
we
make
this
decision
in
the
next
year,
our
ourselves
to
say.
R
Okay,
we
want
to
go
with,
let's
pick
a
b
c
d
or
F
that
they
present
to
us.
If
we
want
to
go
to
a
different
option,
we
can
set
the
rules
of
that
now.
It
will
be
us,
as
the
Council
of
the
city
with
I
would
say
by
the
reaction
so
far
from
the
public.
The
citizen
just
did
a
survey
saying
84
percent
support
us
looking
at
other
options.
So
if
you
want
to
be
on
the
side
of
your
your
residence
and
your
your
community,
you've
got
to
look
at
other
options.
Here.
R
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
I,
hope
Council
will
support
this
I
think
I've
covered
off
all
my
points
here,
and
maybe
staff
can
confirm
that
this
report
is
about
lots
of
other
options
besides
incineration
or
landfill.
Is
that
correct.
AC
B
Moving
on
to
modus
emotions
requiring
suspension
of
the
rules
of
procedure,
so
we
have
five
motions
that
I'm
aware
of
that
require
suspensions
of
suspension
of
the
rules
of
procedure
almost
all
because
of
the
time-sensitive
nature
of
the
Motions.
B
So
first
is
emotion
from
counselor
troster
regarding
Bill
5,
stopping
harassment
and
abuse
by
local
leaders
act
that
I
understand
that's
going
for
a
second
reading
before
our
next
council
meeting
in
provincial
legislature.
That
is
so
on
suspension
of
the
rules
is
that
carried
counselor
truster.
Q
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
before
I
read
the
motion.
I
don't
need
to
remind
Council
why
we
need
this
bill
to
be
passed
in
the
Ontario
legislature
after
shameful
abusive
actions
by
a
former
member
of
city
council
I
even
had
one
of
the
former
victims
of
this
treatment
right
to
me
to
to
thank
me
and
counselor
Kavanaugh
for
bringing
this
motion
forward
right
now.
Q
There's
absolutely
no
mechanism
for
a
city
council
to
have
real
consequences
for
someone
who
is
found
to
have
engaged
in
this
kind
of
horrendous
disrespectful,
abusive
con
conduct
towards
a
member
of
the
public
or
a
member
of
City
staff.
Q
424-4
seeking
revisions
to
the
municipal
act
2001
that
would
provide
for
the
vacating
seat
the
vacating
of
the
seat
of
a
member
of
council
who
has
been
found
unclear
and
convincing
evidence
to
have
committed
serious
misconduct,
including
any
definitions
necessary
for
the
implementation
of
such
a
provision
and
whereas
on
August,
10,
2022,
Ottawa,
MPP,
Stephen,
blay,
reintroduced
Bill
5.
Stopping
harassment
and
abuse
by
local
leaders.
Q
The
mayor
wrote
to
the
premier
of
Ontario
to
support
both
in
support
of
Bill
5
and
ask
that
the
government
of
Ontario
fast
tracked
the
approval
of
the
legislation
and
that
a
letter
of
support
be
sent
to
local
mpps,
MPP
Stephen
blae,
the
premier
and
minister
of
Municipal
Affairs
and
Housing,
the
association
and
the
association
of
municipalities
of
Ontario.
And
whereas
on
November
9.
2022.
Q
And
whereas
all
employees
are
entitled
to
a
safe
and
healthy
workplace
and
whereas
the
city
of
ottawa's
commitment
to
preventing,
protecting
against
and
addressing
workplace
violence
and
harassment
is
enshrined
in
the
workplace,
violence
and
harassment
policy
and
whereas
Bill
5
would
require
codes
of
conduct
for
Council
and
its
local
boards
to
include
a
requirement
that
members
comply
with
workplace
violence
and
harassment.
Policies
established
by
the
municipality
or
its
local
boards
and
whereas
the
Amendments
under
Bill
5
would
also
permit
municipalities
and
local
boards
to
direct
the
Integrity.
Commissioner.
Q
To
apply
to
the
court
to
vacate
a
member's
seat
if
the
commissioner's
inquiry
determines
that
the
member
contravened
the
code
of
conduct
by
failing
to
comply
with
the
workplace,
violence
or
harassment
policies,
whereas
it
is
estimated
that
over
100
municipalities
and
Ontario's
Big
City
Mayors
have
formally
endorsed
bill
5.
and
whereas
the
association
of
municipalities
of
Ontario
and
the
rural
Ontario
municipalities,
Association
have
expressed
to
the
provincial
government
their
support
for
legislation
to
update
Municipal
codes
of
conduct
to,
among
other
matters,
incorporate
measures
included
in
bill.
Q
5.,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
Ottawa
city
council
requests
that
the
mayor
right
to
the
premier
of
Ontario,
to
express
support
of
Bill
5,
stopping
harassment
and
abuse
by
local
leaders,
act
2022
on
behalf
of
the
2022
to
2026
Ottawa
city
council,
and
that
the
letter
also
be
sent
to
all
local
mpps,
including
Stephen
blay,
as
well
as
the
minister
of
Municipal
Affairs
and
the
association
of
municipalities
of
Ontario.
Thank
you.
B
Next,
we
have
a
motion
from
councilor
troster
regarding
Italian
Festival
on
suspension
of
the
rules
is
that
carriage
counselor
troster
much.
Q
More
lighter
Fair,
whereas
the
Preston
Street
business,
Improvement
Association,
will
host
the
annual
Italian
Festival
and
whereas
many
of
the
Italian
Festival
activities
will
be
happening.
Outdoors
on
Preston
Street,
between
Carling
Avenue
and
Somerset,
Street
West
and
the
Ferrari
demonstration
Zone
will
be
taking
place
on
Carling
between
Preston
Street
and
Sherwood.
Drive
activities
consist
of
outdoor
on-street,
patios,
Italian
car
displays
and
various
other
forms
of
entertainment
and
whereas
the
Bia
has
requested
the
closure
of
Preston
Street
from
Carling
Avenue
to
Somerset
Street
rest.
Q
On
Monday
June,
12
2023,
the
road
will
reopen
each
morning
at
1am
and
reclose
at
9am
each
day
and
whereas
the
Bia
has
requested
a
single
Lane
reduction
in
each
Direction
on
Carling
Avenue
from
Preston
Street
to
Sherwood
Drive,
beginning
at
2
A.M
on
Friday,
June,
9th
2023
to
make
necessary
preparations
for
the
Ferrari
demonstration
and
whereas
the
city
of
Ottawa
special
events,
streets,
bylaw,
2001
to
2-260,
prohibits
road
closures
and
Lane
reductions
before
6
PM
Monday
to
Friday
there.
It
be
therefore
be
it
resolved.
Q
The
council
approved
the
road
closure
for
Preston
Street
from
Carling
Avenue
to
Somerset,
Street
West
and
single
Lane
reductions
on
Carling
Avenue
between
Preston
Street
and
Sherwood
Drive.
The
Preston
Street
road
closure
will
begin
at
8pm
on
Friday,
June,
9th
2023
and
end
at
5
00
a.m.
On
Monday
June,
the
12th
2023
and
single
Lane
reductions
in
each
Direction
on
Carling
Avenue
will
begin
at
2
A.M
on
Friday,
June,
9th
2023
to
prepare
for
the
Ferrari
demonstration
Zone,
providing
both
components
meet
the
requirements,
conditions
and
approval
of
the
special
events
advisory.
Thank
you.
AE
Great,
thank
you,
Mr
Maron.
Thank
you,
colleagues,
for
the
opportunity
to
bring
this
motion
forward
today
to
recognize
the
incredible
contributions
of
seniors
in
our
community.
I'll
read
out
the
motion
which
is
seconded
by
councilor
Brockington,
whereas
Canadian
demographics
indicate
that
seniors
are
one
of
the
fastest
growing
population
groups
in
our
communities
and
whereas,
according
to
the
2021
census
from
statistics,
Canada,
172,
172
and
150
persons,
age,
65
and
over
reside
in
the
city
of
Ottawa,
making
up
16.9
percent
of
the
total
population.
AE
And
it's
expected
that
by
the
year
2031
more
than
one
in
five
residents
living
in
Ottawa
will
be
over
the
age
of
65.
And
whereas
the
city
of
Ottawa
has
benefited
from
the
many
tireless
hours
of
volunteer
work
and
Leadership
generously
donated
by
local
senior
citizens.
And
whereas
senior
citizens
have
helped
to
build
our
communities
through
active
living,
shared
knowledge
and
a
diversity
of
experiences.
And
whereas
the
month
of
June
is
recognized
by
the
province
of
Ontario
as
seniors
month.
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Bradley
is
the
motion
carried
next
is
a
motion
from
councilor
Lowell
regarding
appointing
councilor
Brown
to
the
Rideau
Valley
conservation
Authority,
whose
next
meeting
is
coming
up
shortly
so
on
suspension
of
the
rules?
Is
that
carried
counselor
Lowell.
U
Thank
you
mayor,
whereas
the
city
of
Ottawa
is
currently
eligible
to
appoint
five
members
to
the
Rita
Valley
conservation
Authority,
the
rbca
board
of
directors,
in
accordance
with
the
conservation
authorities
act,
whereas
there
is
a
pending
vacancy
on
the
board
that
is
required
to
be
filled
by
a
member
of
council
and
whereas
the
office
of
the
city
clerk
is
circulated
for
expressions
of
interest
for
members
of
council
and
Council.
Brown
has
expressed
interest
in
being
appointed
to
the
University
of
board
of
directors,
therefore
be
resolved.
B
F
Leaper,
thank
you
and
colleagues.
I
wrote
to
you
about
this
yesterday
afternoon,
you're
only
allowed
to
paint
one
building
one
wall
of
a
building,
but
they're
seeking
to
paint
all
four
so
I'll
just
move
to
the
therefore
be
it
resolved
and
just
quickly
note
that
late
yesterday,
I
also
spoke
to
the
Bia,
who
are
wholly
supportive
of
this
as
well.
F
So,
therefore,
be
it
resolve
the
council
approving
exemption
to
the
Ottawa
mural
bylaw
for
the
application
submitted
by
the
urban
Art
Collective
to
allow
for
murals
to
be
painted
on
all
four
walls,
external
walls
of
the
building
for
which
the
application
has
been
submitted,
1088
Somerset,
Street
West
and
be
it
further
resolve
that
the
applicants
will
otherwise
adhere
to
the
conditions
of
their
permit
as
set
out
by
the
Ottawa
mural
bylaw.
B
His
motion
carried
thank
you
item,
20
notices,
a
motion
for
consideration
at
a
subsequent
meeting
I.
There
is
a
notice
of
motion
from
councilor
Brockington
councilor
Brockington.
Thank
you
for
advancing
this
motion
on
my
behalf.
As
members
of
council
will
know,
some
of
you
will
know,
we
hosted
the
Ambassador
from
the
Ukraine
to
Canada
Julia
kovalev
at
the
mayor's
breakfast
last
week,
and
at
that
time
we
announced
that
we
would
be
making
this
motion.
B
She
had
requested
of
me
in
a
courtesy
call
to
my
office
a
couple
of
months
ago
that
if
the
city
of
Ottawa
wanted
to
help
the
people
of
Ukraine,
we
could
provide
decommissioned
emergency
vehicles
to
them.
So
this
is
the
first
step
toward
that
of
providing
a
decommissioned
ambulance
to
support
humanitarian
efforts
in
the
Ukraine,
so
councilor
Brockington.
If
you
would
please.
G
Thank
you
mayor
certainly
honored,
to
move
this,
whereas
the
city
of
Ottawa
has
previously
donated
Surplus
ambulances
to
specific
causes
or
organizations
such
as
the
Salvation
Army
community
and
Emergency
Response
Team,
the
government
of
Nunavut,
as
well
as
organizations
doing
work
in
Ghana
and
Ethiopia,
whereas
the
embassy
of
Ukraine
has
expressed
the
need
for
a
decommissioned
ambulance
to
support
their
humanitarian
efforts
and
provide
medical
Aid
in
this
growing
emergency
situation
and
whereas
the
provision
of
an
ambulance
will
pursue
the
goal
of
ensuring
adequate
conditions
to
provide
urgent
medical
care
and
to
further
improve
emergency
response
in
the
Ukraine.
G
Whereas
section
41-4
of
the
city's
procurement
bylaw
2000-50
has
amended
states
that
quote
the
sale
of
surplus
furniture,
Vehicles
equipment,
stock
supplies
and
other
goods
and
material
shall
be
made
to
the
highest
response
of
bidder
and
the
sale
shall
be
made
in
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
this
bylaw
were
applicable,
end
of
quote
and
therefore
or
be
it
resolved.
The
council
waive
subsection
41-4
of
bylaw
number
50
of
I'm,
not
sure
if
that
should
be
200
or
2000
as
amended,
and
approve
the
donation
of
one
ambulance
to
the
Embassy
of
Ukraine.
Thank
you
mayor.
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Brockington
item
21
on
the
agenda
is
a
notice
of
intent
from
the
Ottawa
Community
Housing
Corporation
to
hold
the
annual
general
meeting
of
the
shareholder
at
the
council
meeting
scheduled
for
June
14
2023
item
22
motion
to
introduce
bylaws,
counselor
dudas.
AC
AC
AG
Thank
you
very
much,
so
my
question
is
for
Claire
Ferreira
and
Paul
Levine.
We
were
talking
about
homelessness
today,
as
Council
approved
the
recommendations
from
committee
and
I
just
wondered.
If
you
could
tell
us
kind
of
succinctly
how
critical
is
the
need
in
the
city's
homeless,
Community
right
now.
H
Question
in
Ottawa
in
2020,
the
city
of
Ottawa,
declared
a
housing
crisis
and
homelessness
crisis.
We
continue
to
see
an
overflow
of
need
and
demand
for
both
emergency
shelter
and
affordable
housing
and
affordable
housing,
with
supports
that
I
would
say,
and
that
sort
of
encompasses
where
we
are
right
now
in
terms
of
our
our
needs
locally.
AG
And
kind
of
reflecting
the
the
words
about
delegating
Authority
in
the
recommendations
of
motion,
how
important
is
it
for
the
housing
department
to
be
able
to
move
quickly
if
new
funding
is
available
to
update
the
homeless
plan
homelessness
plan.
H
Thank
you.
The
delegated
authority
that
we
have
a
staff
is
covered
as
part
of
the
city's
delegated
authority
bylaw
it.
What
we
must
do
when
we
receive
substantive
amounts
of
funding
funding
annually
from
the
province
is
bring
that
funding
and
the
spending
plan
to
council,
and
that
is
what
we've
done
in
this
case.
AH
I
can't
hide
it
sorry,
a
question
for
the
mayor.
Would
you
support
a
pay
as
you
throw
bag
and
tag
program
in
the
city
of
Ottawa.
B
I've
been
listening
to
Residents
and
I've,
been
listening
to
counselors
over
the
last
few
weeks
since,
since
the
discussion
began
and
I
think
we're
all
keeping
an
open
mind
about
this.
We
we
need
to
divert
more
from
landfill,
we're
facing
some
very
expensive
decisions
about
future
Solutions
and
I'm.
B
Looking
forward
to
hearing
more
about
what
our
options
are
on
that
so
I
think
I,
you
know
we're
continuing
to
talk
about
it,
I'm
I'm,
supportive
of
doing
what
we
need
to
do
to
divert
more
from
more
waste
from
landfill,
but
I
think
there
are
still
a
few
options
in
terms
of
what
we
can
do
to
achieve.
That.
B
Thank
you.
Well,
it
I
think
I
think
we're
still
trying
to
settle
on
what
the
right
plan
is.
So
there's
you
know,
as
you
know,
there's
two
pieces
to
this.
One
is
what's
the
long-term
solution,
no
matter
how
much
we
divert
in
the
next
few
years,
we
are
still
going
to
have
to
either
build
another
landfill
or
develop
and
invest
in
some
other
technology
or
some
other
solution
for
disposing
of
solid
waste
and
in
the
meantime
we
will
have.
B
You
know
to
do
everything
we
can
to
divert
garbage
from
landfill
and-
and
that's
probably
the
more
immediate
decision
that
we'll
have
to
make
obviously
so
I'm
I'm,
keeping
an
open
mind
about
that.
I
think
there
are
some
steps
we
need
to
take,
but
I
I'm
I'm,
waiting
to
hear
more
from
the
community
and
from
counselors
on
on
what
on
what
the
right
place
to
land
is
on
that.
AH
So
my
next
motion:
it's
a
bit
of
a
process
question
with
this
motion
going
forward
now
to
look
at
Technologies
what
happens
now
with
the
debate
about
bang
and
take
that
committee
and
and
that
strain
that's
going
forward,
I'm
just
giving
us.
M
Thank
you
for
the
question
Leah.
So
the
the
two
issues
are
really
complementary.
One
doesn't
supersede
the
other.
One
is
focused.
The
one
that's
coming
in
June
is
really
focused
on
resonant
Behavior
related
to
increasing
diversion.
M
The
motion
that
was
presented
was
more
around
more
the
end
product,
so
once
once
we're
dealing
with
the
end
waste
or
composition.
Basically,
how
do
we
deal
with
that?
Recognizing
that
we
have
a
landfill?
That's
that
is
coming
to
the
end
of
his
life,
and
we
need
to
be
planning
for
for
that
next
cycle.
So
for
me,
and
as
the
mayor
indicated,
there
are
two
important
discussions
and
they're
very
much
complementary.
AC
P
B
I
support
that
I
support
that
bill.
Bill
five
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
reasonable
and
appropriate.
AD
And
I'll
the
the
legislation
I.
AF
AF
B
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
decision
for
Council
and
I.
Think
I
think
it's
good
that
we're
taking
the
time
and
considering
all
our
options,
and
we
have.
We
have
two
solutions
that
we
need
to
find.
One
is
the
long-term
solution
of
what's
going
to
happen
to
garbage
10
12
years
from
now.
Where
is
it
going
to
go
and
I'm
open
to
all
the
options
for
that
and
I
want
to
see
what
the
pros
and
cons
are
of
each
of
the
potential
Solutions
and
then
more
immediately.
B
Obviously,
we
have
to
divert
more
from
landfill
so
that
we
are
prolonging
the
current
landfill
site
and
and
and
putting
off
as
long
as
possible
the
significant
costs
that
will
be
associated
with
another
solution.
So
I'm
I'm
open
to
the
discussion
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
reaching
a
conclusion
on
the
best
way
forward
for
residents
and
for
the
city
so
that
we're
not
making
things
too
complicated
or
difficult
for
residents,
but
we
are
incentivizing
diversion
from
landfill
and
that
we
are
making
sure
we're
not
sending
too
much
to
landfill.
B
So
clearly
the
the
you
know
what
we
have
now,
where
there's
a
six
bag
limit-
and
it's
not
really
enforced,
is-
is
not
the
way
to
go
going
forward.
So
we
need
to
find
something
that
that
will
work
and
that-
and
that
is
not
too
much
disruption
for
residents.
AI
My
official
question
this
would
be
for
Mr
gonzi.
Can
you
elaborate
a
bit
about
the
expected
length,
the
lifespan
of
of
the
Trail
Road
dump
when,
when
the
sooner
the
soonest
it
might
be
closed
and
how
long
you
could
prolong
it?
If
there's
more
diversion.
M
Yeah,
so
thank
you
for
the
question.
The
the
current
estimates
are
20
to
36
to
2038.,
especially
when
we
expect
to
reach
the
capacity
the
existing
landfill.
So
it's
part
of
the
solid
waste
master
plan
is
looking
for
30
years
out
to
say
how
are
we
going
to
be
managing
waste
in
the
city
of
Ottawa?
M
Part
of
that
is
basically,
how
do
we
try
to
extend
as
much
as
we
can
the
life
of
the
existing
asset
that
we
have
before
we
start
to
look
at
other
Alternatives,
regardless
of
Technology,
whether
it's
another
landfill,
whether
it's
an
incineration
or
at
least
two
waste
of
energy.
So
when
we
look
at
the
time
span
required
to
even
consider
those
options,
we're
often
talking
about
10
to
15
years
from
the
time
that
we
start
the
feasibilities
to
the
time
that
they're
running
there's
key
decisions
that
will
have
to
be
made.
AI
As
a
follow-up
question
to
Mayor,
Sutcliffe
I
know
that
counselor
hului's
motion
is
just
about
all
the
options,
but
clearly
incineration
is
is
maybe
the
prime
one
and
I
know
you
weren't
on
Council
when
Pasco
was
underway,
but
you
certainly
covered
it
as
a
journalist
in
that
previous
career
and
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
concerns
about
incineration
yourself
as
a
possible
solution.
B
And
I
know
there
are
concerns
and
I'm
aware
of
them.
I
haven't
studied
all
the
different
options
closely.
There
are
pros
and
cons,
obviously,
to
every
potential
solution
and
every
form
of
technology.
I
think
you
know
plasco
it's
a
it's
a
shame
that
that
didn't
work
out
it.
It's
it
didn't
turn
out
to
be
a
great
deal
for
the
city
of
Ottawa,
but
it's
it
was
one
scenario
and
so
I'm
sure
there
are
lots
of
different
options
and-
and
a
lot
of
time
has
passed
since
then
so
going
forward.
B
T
C
Have
a
question
for
the
mayor
or
on
the
homelessness
prevention
program,
if
I
understood
is
that
there's
only
one
thing
that
allows
you
to
distribute
housing,
I
didn't
I,
hear
the
last
part
of
your
question.
I
understand
now,
there's
only
one
one
thing
that
allows
you
to
use
the
money
based
on
the
priorities
of
the
city.
C
Yeah,
thanks
for
the
question
about
the
funding
for
homelessness
prevention,
we're
referring
to
city
funding
for
homelessness,
that's
been
Consolidated
so
that
there's
a
better
fund
management
and
that
we
can
better
meet
the
needs
of
the
population
and
the
20
Millions
from
The
Province
I.
Think
you
mentioned
that
yesterday.