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B
B
B
And
I
know
you
have
some
family
and
friends
in
the
audience
as
well,
and
we
welcome
them
as
well.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
to
support
your
family
and
friends
on
this
very
important
day
in
our
city's
history.
For
those
who
are
able
to
would
you
please
rise
for
a
moment
of
personal
reflection
and
the
remain
standing
for
the
national
anthem
that
will
be
introduced
in
just
a
moment.
B
He
currently
resides
and
performs
regularly
at
private
events,
while
developing
an
online
following
as
the
singing
bellman
and
I
first
heard
Mario
at
the
stars
of
the
city
celebration
with
the
tourism
industry,
as
he
is
with
the
tourism
of
the
hospitality
industry.
So
please
join
me
on
this
special
occasion
and
my
pleasure
to
introduce
mario
robear
thank.
D
E
D
B
Well,
thank
you
very
much.
Muriel
big
finish
on
Oh
Canada
appreciate
it.
It's
an
honor
now
to
invite
Elio
Marcantonio
to
the
podium
for
this
council
city
builder
award
presentation
with
your
city,
councilor
Jan
harder,
so
come
on
forward.
Elio
Matt
na
edom
on
Theresa
Lepore,
the
Emperor,
please
Elio,.
B
And
warm
welcome
to
Elios
family,
who
were
here
and
friends.
This
award
that
we
present
at
the
beginning
of
every
council
meeting
recognizes
people
who
have
demonstrated
a
commitment
to
making
our
city
a
better
place
through
outstanding
volunteerism,
an
exemplary
action
in
2010
Elio
and
his
five-year-old
son
Dean,
who
was
already
quite
a
daredevil
at
the
time,
discovered
their
passion
for
BMX
racing
on
a
track
in
East.
B
The
Nepean
BMX
association
became
an
incorporated
nonprofit
organization
in
june
2012,
and
the
process
of
building
the
club
began
Elio
credits,
the
tremendous
support
he
received
from
councillor
Jan
harder
in
helping
the
organization
identify,
Clarkfield,
Park
location,
many
hundreds
of
hours
were
spent
planning
and
building
a
state-of-the-art
track
that
has
been
used
for
the
BMX
capital
city
Nationals
in
2015,
2016
and
2018
with
enthusiasm
and
dedication
has
been
very
effective
at
motivating
and
inspire
others
to
be
part
of
his
vision.
Yellow
gives
credit
to
donors
and
supporters
and
supplied
materials
and
help
fund.
B
The
purchase
of
equipment,
On
June,
1st
21st
rather
2013,
then
the
pn
BMX
association
ran
its
inaugural
event
at
clark
field
park
and
within
three
short
years.
It
became
one
of
the
largest
BMX
associations
in
all
of
north
america.
Illios
vision
was
to
build
a
BMX
park
that
is
inclusive
to
all
families
in
the
community
and
the
benefits
have
been
far-reaching.
B
Construction
and
maintenance
of
the
track
is
done
by
volunteers
and
Elio
gives
them
much
credit
for
continuing
to
help
and
support
this
project.
The
tract
promotes
a
healthy,
active
lifestyle
and
brings
community
together,
while
also
generating
revenue
for
local
businesses.
Ilio
and
the
association
have
done
an
amazing
job
to
provide
much
appreciated.
Bmx
track
and
bar
Haven
I
visited
the
track
with
councilor
harder
and
a
number
of
occasions
and
I'd
like
to
thank
you
very,
very
much
for
your
passion
and
your
contribution
of
the
community.
German
SS
ace
at
ocasion
program,
FC,
I'd,.
E
E
A
I
presented
the
idea
to
bring
a
BMX
track
to
to
the
BART
Haven
Community.
You
understood
that
meta
fits
that
it
BMX
track
would
bring
to
the
families
of
bar,
even
as
well
as
well
as
the
surrounding
areas.
And.
Lastly,
I
like
to
thank
my
wife
Sarah
for
your
support
with
this
project
and
your
significant
volunteer
time
that
you
that
you
put
towards.
B
Thank
you
very
much,
and
congratulations
for
the
next
presentation
of
the
honor
proclaiming
University
of
Ottawa
GG's
women's
soccer
team
day
in
Ottawa,
and
pleased
to
invite
the
following
individuals
to
come
forward.
Rito
Vanier
councillor
met
CEO
flurry
where
University
of
Ottawa
is
situated:
head
coach,
Steve,
Johnson
assistant
coaches,
Stewart
Barbour,
john
bersia,
veronica
Mazzella,
and
our
guests
of
honor,
the
University
of
Ottawa
Gigi's
women's
soccer
team.
If
they'd
all
come
forward,
please,
let's
give
these
national
champions
a
round
of
applause.
A
B
Well,
it's
a
real
pleasure
and
you
saw
by
the
response
by
the
members
of
council
and
our
audience
here
today.
How
proud
we
are
the
gee-gees
women's
soccer
team.
These
players
worked
hard
to
get
to
the
2018
youth
sports
women's
soccer
championship
game
and
they
wanted
an
exciting
2-1
victory
over
the
Trinity
Western
Spartans,
a
GG
field
on
November
11th,
winning
the
gold
medal
game.
I.
Think
it's
safe
to
say
that
you
Ottawa,
is
building
a
reputation
for
athletic
excellence
right
across
the
country.
She's
a
qua
Matt
won't
pay
on
these
I.
B
Relations
to
the
entire
team,
we
had
the
honor
of
hosting
you
for
breakfast
upstairs
and
presented
each
member
with
a
certificate
and
we're
very,
very
proud
of
your
accomplishments.
I'd
like
to
ask
Miranda,
Smith
and
Margot
Shore
to
join
me
for
the
presentation
and
we'll
just
get
the
proclamation
here.
B
B
H
C
Don't
go
namitha,
maxium,
artis
and
I'd
like
to
thank
the
mayor
and
the
city
administration
for
having
us
this
morning.
It's
an
honor
to
represent
the
University
and
the
City
of
Ottawa,
we're
very
proud
of
our
winnings,
and
that
would
not
have
been
possible
without
the
support
of
everyone
here.
Thank
you.
F
E
F
A
J
E
B
K
Here
are
much
mr.
mayor
that
the
report
from
the
city,
clerk
and
solicitor
entitled
2018
2020
to
council
governance
review
be
received
and
considered
and
that
the
rules
of
procedure
be
suspended
to
receive
in
table.
The
report
from
the
general
manager,
emergency
protective
services
entitled
report
on
in
tario
cannabis
legislation,
cannabis,
retail
stores
and
response
to
council
direction
of
August
29
2018.
As
this
report
will
be
considered
by
counsel
at
this
special
meeting
on
Thursday
December
13th
2018
on.
B
The
motion
carried
reports,
city
clerk
and
solicitor,
2018
2020,
council
governance
review.
We
have
a
number
of
motions
that
have
been
submitted.
Does
anyone
else
have
any
other
motions
at
this
time?
This
is
the
time
to
bring
forward
a
motion,
so
it
gives
the
clerk's
office
an
opportunity
to
councillor
Kavanagh.
B
L
B
B
B
Give
you
the
report
page
numbers
that
we're
dealing
with
standing
committees
subcommittees
and
Transit
Commission
pages
22
to
53
item
one,
the
council
committee
structure
for
2018
2020
to
term
of
counsel,
as
outlined
in
this
report
and
as
follows:
effective
immediately:
a
agricultural
affairs
committee,
B
audit
committee,
C
community
and
Protective
Service,
Committee
D
Environment
and
climate
protection
committee,
e
Finance
and
Economic
Development
Committee,
and
its
associated
subcommittees.
One
IT
subcommittee
to
eliminating
the
Member
Services
Subcommittee,
F,
Planning
Committee
and
its
associated
subcommittees
built
heritage
subcommittee,
G,
Transit,
Commission
and
H
Transportation
Committee.
H
D
Mayor
the
process
is
a
lot
of
the
policies
and
procedures
that
have
been
put
in
place
by
this
council
under
the
accountability
framework,
the
integrity
commissioner,
your
expense
policy
you're,
putting
things
on
line.
All
of
those
things
had
largely
been
dealt
with,
including
how
you
get
award
office.
These
were
all
things
early
on
in
the
after
amalgamation
that
that
committee
was
tasked
to
deal
with
and
I,
don't
believe
it's
met
since
2009,
but
in.
H
D
C
A
Into
the
LRT
so
I'm
very
comfortable
that
the
LRT
planning
funding
and
all
of
the
structure
has
been
in
fedko
and
I
understand
from
the
report
that
once
it
is
operationalized
so
once
the
LRT
opens,
the
governance
will
shift
to
the
Transit
Commission.
But
it's
unclear
to
me
if,
if
there
were
two
to
have
specific
questions
as
part
of
the
construction
as
part
of
some
of
the
the
performances
and
oversight
is,
that
is
that,
does
that
remain
within
the
Fed
Co
Authority?
Or
is
that
carried
to
the
Transit
Commission
once
the
LRT
is
open?
Once.
D
A
A
Thank
you
for
clarifying
the
other,
the
other
question
I
have
or
the
other
it's
more
of
a
point.
So
I've
been
a
member
of
this
communion
Protective
Services
Committee
over
the
last
eight
years.
It's
really
one
of
the
operational
committees
of
Council
it
overseas
from
housing
to
by
law
services
to
emergency
services
to
long-term
care,
child
care.
A
So
there's
a
lot
a
lot
of
variety
of
reports
and
certainly
when,
when
I
met
with
with
with
the
clerk
I
did
highlight
that
that
was
of
concern
because
it's
it
carries
a
heavy
load
depending
on
term
of
council
priorities.
So
it's
more
of
a
comment
that
I
would
have
loved
to
see,
and
maybe
there
is
an
opportunity
to
create
kind
of
a
working
group
style
that
planning
committee
had
established
for
the
building,
better
revitalized,
neighborhood
or
council
liaison
for
specific
topics.
M
B
M
It
indicates
that
the
mayor's
suggesting,
in
order
to
strengthen
ties
between
Eric
and
planning
committee,
that
the
chairs
of
each
of
those
committee
be
ex
officio
on
the
other
committee
and
because
we
don't
use
ex
officio
very
often
I'm
wondering
why
we're
recommending
ex
officio,
as
opposed
to
them,
just
being
a
member
of
the
committee,
because
I
would
think
it
might
be
a
long
day
for
somebody
to
sit
at
planning
committee,
for
example,
all
day
without
having
a
vote
and
I'm
just
wondering
what
the
rationale
for
ex
officio
is.
Yes,.
D
Mr.
mayor,
with
regards
that,
the
ex
officio
has
a
particular
title
to
it
and
a
bit
of
cachet
because
we
don't
use
ex
officio
members
as
part
of
the
quorum.
So,
therefore,
if
you
make
them
regular
members
through
part
of
the
quorum
and
we
looked
at
this
particular
recommendation
and
eat
arose
as
a
result
of
there
might
be
once
in
a
while.
D
J
Thanks
very
much
mr.
mayor
and
through
you
just
a
question
to
to
staff
around
our
planning
committee
structure
and
the
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee.
My
understanding
is
that
planning
matters
are
referred
to
the
agricultural
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee.
If
it's
within
the
the
rural
areas
and
that
there's
representation
of
rural
councilors
predominantly
on
that
committee,
can
you
just
give
me
the
rationale
for
why
those
planning
matters
are
considered
there
and
not
at
Planning
Committee?
Yes,.
D
Mr.
mayor,
you
know
I'll
I'll
start
my
comments,
saying
it's
not
just
planning
matters.
Any
matters
that
occur
largely
or
predominantly
in
the
rural
area
are
assigned
to
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs.
Committee
staff
have
from
time
to
time
looked
at
whether
or
not
there
is
something
we
could
call
a
citywide
view
and
not
have
it
at
one
committee
or
another.
But
there
was
no
consensus
on
that
and
the
the
Rural
Affairs
Committee
is
a
little
bit
different
than
a
lot
of
our
other
standing
committees.
D
J
Thanks
very
much
for
that
I
think.
The
governance
framework
around
the
agricultural
rural
affairs
committee
is
fantastic,
that
that
should
obviously
continue
that
it's
made
up
of
representative
members
elected
by
those
folks
that
deal
with
planning
matters
in
their
area.
Who
would
have
a
more
I
guess
fulsome
view
of
of
those
matters
in
their
backyard.
J
I
think
that
the
comets
been
made
to
me
that
regional
representation
around
Planning
Committee,
given
that
it's
our
by
far
busiest
Committee
and
deals
with
a
number
of
matters
that
regional
representation
may
be
a
model
we
wish
to
consider
in
the
future.
I'm
not
raising
a
motion
here
today,
but
I
would
appreciate
comments
on
a
potential
regional
representation
through
Planning
Committee
in
the
future
from
staff.
Mr.
D
Mayor
we'll
certainly
certainly
take
that
under
advisement
I
think
the
only
thing
I
would
have
added
to
this
at
this
point
in
time
is
the
previous
comments
with
regard
to
the
ex
officio
member
that
would
draw
if
there
was
such
as
a
regional
view,
one
would
presume
that
the
planning
committee
chair
then
good
go
to
Iraq
and
could
participate
fully
on
those
types
of
issues.
Thanks.
B
B
A
a
rack
be
planning
C,
built
heritage,
any
questions
on
pages,
22,
24,
33
and
35
to
36
on
the
motion
carried
item
three
that
the
terms
of
reference
for
the
IT
subcommittee
be
amended
to
formalize
the
subcommittee's
budget
approval
process,
as
described
in
this
report,
Lapage
Venton.
If
at
fault
carry
item
for
the
elimination
of
the
members
services
subcommittee
is
outlined
in
this
report
and
counsel
shan't
Erie
asked
that
question:
are
they
and
other
questions
on
the
demise
of
that
committee
that
has
not
met
in
years
carried.
B
Him
five,
the
terms
of
reference
for
the
built
heritage
subcommittee,
be
revised
to
enable
the
subcommittee
to
make
recommendations
directly.
The
City
Council
regarding
Ontario
Heritage
Act
reports
approved
by
the
subcommittee
that
do
not
include
an
accompanying
zoning
bylaw
or
official
plan
amendment,
as
described
in
the
report
pages
35
to
38
carried
item
number
six,
that
the
terms
of
reference
for
the
Transportation
Committee
be
revised
to
clarify
that
front.
B
Ending
agreements
relating
to
transportation
matters
will
be
considered
by
planning
committee,
as
described
in
this
report
pages
41
to
42
carried
item
7,
the
council
committee
and
Commission
Commission
calendar
meeting
locations
and
other
committee
matters
is
outlined
in
this
report.
Pages
42
to
45
carry
a
that.
The
Vice,
the
chairs
and
vice
chairs
be
appointed
for
the
term
of
council
pages
45
to
46
that
the
nominating
committee
mandate
and
process
is
outlined
in
this
report
pages
50
to
53,
and
we
have
a
motion
by
councillor
McKenney
seconded
by
Councillor
Brockington
councillor,
McKenney,
pleased.
N
You,
mr.
mayor,
and
this
this
motion,
you
know,
recognizes
I,
think
I.
Think
the
fact
that
we
are
contemplating
women's
lay
on
a
women's
Bureau
recognises
that
diversity
in
all
of
our
decision-making.
If
we
have
diversity
in
in
those
in
those
voices
we
you
know,
we
we
make
overall,
better
decisions
and
the
nominating
committee
plays
a
very
important
function
in
picking
the
chairs,
vice-chairs
and
and
the
people
who
will
certainly
play
a
leadership
role
in
in
this
term
of
council
and
where
we
sit
on
different
committees
and
councils.
N
So
it's
this
motion
and
you
know
in
recognizing
that
would
commit
us
to
50
percent
representation
of
women
on
that
nominating
committee.
It's
it's
a
not
a
it's.
It's
only
one
meeting,
really
it's
not
a
very
long
commitment,
but
it's
it
does
play
a
very
important
role
in
in
how
we
move
forward.
So
do
you
want
me
to
read
it
out?
I
think
it's
really.
N
B
On
the
motion
carried,
thank
you
on
the
motion
on
number
nine.
As
amended
carried
item
number
10,
the
ward
and
positions
specific
appointments
is
outlined
in
document
1,
which
is
pages
52
53
carried
item
number
11,
that
the
revised
terms
of
reference
for
standing
committees
subcommittees
in
the
transit
commission
be
submitted
in
draft
form
to
the
respective
committees
Commission
at
their
first
meeting,
420
in
2019
for
consideration
and
recommendation
to
Council
for
approval.
B
O
Thank
You
mayor
in
2010,
when
the
Planning
and
Environment
Committee
was
split
into
Planning
and
Environment
Committee.
There
was
no
recommendation
in
that
year's
governance
report
to
include
any
responsibilities
for
affordable
housing
in
the
planning
committees,
mandate
for
reasons
that
I
suspect
were
largely
because
of
the
personalities
interests
involved
at
the
time.
The
the
budget
for
affordable
housing
that
comes
from
our
federal
and
provincial
partners
was
put
under
planning
committee.
O
So
there
is
there's
an
affordable
housing
program,
a
capital
budget
that
is
the
responsibility
of
planning
committee
to
approve
where
the
rest
of
our
affordable
housing
strategy
sits
under
the
community
and
Protective
Services
Committee.
My
motion
would
move
responsibility
for
that
capital
budget
of
associated
with
affordable
housing
over
to
the
community
and
Protective
Services
Committee,
so
that
it
can
take
a
holistic
look
at
our
affordable
housing
initiatives.
O
Quite
frankly,
within
the
planning
committee
budget
every
year
that
one
affordable
housing
item
comes
before
us,
we
hear
some
delegations
from
housing
advocates
and
then
generally
just
rubber-stamp
the
budget
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
richer
discussion
with
respect
to
affordable
housing
to
have
all
of
the
tools
under
the
community
and
Protective
Services.
Mr.
O
mayor,
if
I
can
just
read
the
the
therefore
be
it
resolved,
perhaps
therefore
it
resolved
that
the
terms
of
reference
for
the
community
and
Protective
Services
Committee
reflect
the
responsibility
for
the
city's,
affordable
housing
strategy
and
all
related
housing
policy
initiatives,
including
development
and
policies
related
to
the
city's
official
plan.
Okay,.
G
A
G
The
urban
is
what
the
urban
is.
M'q
committee
studies
is
quite
complicated.
The
community
services
and
Protection
Committee
did
approve
a
10
year
plan
for
housing.
The
policy
and
investment,
as
well
as
operational
issues,
are
the
responsibility
of
the
community
and
Protection
Committee,
but
investments
that
are
needed
to
achieve
those
goals
if
were
would
be
met.
If
our
director-general
were
in
both
committees,
I
know
that
mr.
Willis
is
currently
looking
at
inclusive
zone
edge,
which
is
also
a
very
important
issue.
This
is
a
problem
we
had
with
a
former
committee.
G
F
N
P
I'm
losing
my
touch
okay,
so
when
the
decision
was
made
to
split
the
planning
environment
committee
into
the
planning
and
then
the
Environment
Committee
and
some
opportunities
for
change
happen
at
that
time,
initially,
the
consideration
was
to
keep
all
of
affordable
housing
in
the
planning
committee,
and
but
at
that
time
it
was
decided.
You
know
what
the
people
part
of
it.
The
policy
for
the
people
etc
was
a
better
fit
with
community
Protective
Services,
and
that's
why
that
was,
but
as
far
as
housing
itself
and
its
construction
etc.
O
Mayor
this
is
really
a
question
for
the
clerk.
Mr.
cork
is
just
so.
I
am
second
in
this
motion,
so
obviously
I'm
in
favor
of,
but
just
for
clarification
for
everyone
around
the
table.
This
motion
does
not
take
away
planning
committees
right
and
an
authority
to
to
make
the
zoning
decisions
around
where
something
might
be
built,
what
height?
It
might
be
all
those
sorts
of
things
that
still
still
remains
with
Planning
Committee
correct.
That's.
N
You,
mr.
mayor,
another
question
to
staff:
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
when
environment
was
taken
out
of
planning
at
that
point,
the
terms
of
reference
changed
for
the
planning
department
and
brought
the
capital
piece
of
housing
over.
There
am
I,
am
I,
not
correct
housing.
The
full
housing
bucket
never
existed
under
planning.
It
was
actually
moved
over
there
when
environment
was
taken
out
of
planning
and
environment.
Is
that
not
correct.
N
D
N
B
N
O
Thanks
mayor
so
just
to
wrap
that
up,
I
also
considered
important.
The
the
staff
who
are
largely
responsible
for
dealing
with
the
investment
in
affordable
housing
dollars
are
in
our
housing
branch
and
I.
Think
it's
important
that
they
have.
You
know
sort
of
one
committee
through
which
to
report.
We
also
see
that
housing
advocates
really
they're
required
to
come
to
two
different
committee
meetings,
they're
advocating
for
housing
measures
at
CPSC
and
then
they're
coming
to
planning
committee
for
this
one
kind
of
anomaly
within
our
larger
budgets.
O
M
Thank
you.
Mr.
mayor
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
if
we
do
make
housing
whole
again,
which
makes
sense
to
me
that,
in
the
event
that
we're
talking
about
inclusionary
zoning
or
issues
that
obviously
have
connections
to
the
Planning
Committee,
there
is
nothing
to
prevent
us
from
having
a
joint
meeting
between
CPS
and
the
Planning
Committee
to
address
those
issues.
That's
all
I
wanted
to
say
how.
K
Q
Mr.
mayor,
just
in
response
to
council
blades
question
I
mean
I
I.
The
department
supports
the
intent
behind
the
motion,
but
the
motion
is
written.
Actually,
we
fear
complicates
a
number
of
very
major
files
that
the
department
has
to
move
in
the
next
term
of
council.
The
official
plan
inclusionary
zoning,
every
development
charges
decision
every
section,
37
decision
related
to
housing,
affordable
housing,
is
a
tool.
It's
not
clear
from
the
motion
as
written,
which
committee
has
jurisdiction
over
it.
Q
Forecasts
on
housing
supply
which
were
required
to
provide
planning
committee
right
now
to
meet
provincial
meant
per
inch,
lis
mandated
requirements
and
reporting
on
that
development,
monitoring
on
the
housing
supply
which
were
required
to
do
provincially
mandated.
So
with
committee
cycles
and
the
like
I,
there
has
to
be
a
way
to
to
involve
councillors
of
interest,
but
I
fear
that
we
have
a
very
large
number
of
files
that
will
have
it's
not
clear
which
committee
they
would
go
through
the
way.
The
motions
written
at
this
point
in
time.
Well,.
K
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
Mr.
Willis
and
I
think
we
can
all
agree
mr.
mayor
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
term
of
council
full
of
long
term
planning,
whether
it's
the
official
plan,
the
transportation
master
plan,
the
recreation
plan,
a
housing
plan
and
to
have
our
professional
staff
say,
that's
something
we
are
contemplate
doing
on
the
first
day.
We'll
content
will
perhaps
negatively
affect
all
of
that
planning
and
and
lead
to
a
lack
of
clarity
on
how
to
do
those
plans.
K
J
Order
councilman
our
thanks
very
much
mr.
mayor
and
so
just
a
question
to
staff
cuz
being
being
new
to
this,
the
the
items
that
that
you
just
mentioned
mr.
Willis,
what
what
was
the
process
before
it
was
in
planning
committee?
How
did
it
exist
previously
and
work
in
that
way?
Amongst
all
of
those
those
items.
Q
L
R
O
J
That
that's
helpful
I.
You
know
with
regard
to
this
motion,
to
meet
to
me
having
something
where
it's
comprehensive.
We
were
dealing
with
both
the
operational
and
capital
in
the
same
time,
given
how
important
housing
is
going
to
be
to
this
to
this
term.
I
guess
I
would
ask
staff
if
this
motion
were
to
pass.
How
would
you
implement
it
so
that
we
were
able
to
feasibly?
J
Q
Mr.
mayor
staff
will
do
as
Council
directs.
First
of
all,
first
department
council
will
take
any
direction.
Council
gives
us
on
this.
The
concern
I
raised
the
lack
of
clarity
on
a
number
of
issues
that
this
motion
as
written
is
extremely
broad,
and
if,
if
council
votes
in
favor
of
the
motion,
we
will
bring
all
of
these
different
reports
that
I
listed
the
Official
Plan
reports
related
to
housing,
inclusionary
zoning
development
charges,
issues
related
to
where
they
are
related
to
affordable
housing.
Q
Any
section
37
agreement
that
relates
to
affordable
housing
forecasts
and
reporting
on
housing
supply
development
monitoring
will
all
have
to
be
reported
to
both
committees
in
cycle
which,
as
you
as
you,
can
and
appreciate.
Our
concern
is
that's
a
doubling
of
effort.
It's
confusing
to
the
public
which
committee
they're
coming
to,
and
it
would
lengthen
the
cycle
to
get
these
matters
before
council
for
a
final
decision,
but
we
will
do
as
Council
directs
I
just
we.
J
Q
A
Q
E
The
capital
budget
at
budget
time,
as
well
as
the
as
well
as
the
operating
and
then
anytime
we
get
substantial
funding
from
the
federal
and
provincial
government,
is
when
we
go
to
planning
and
talk
about
the
investments
and
the
recommendations.
Therefore,
so
we
can
certainly,
typically,
what
we
will
do
is
bring
it
to
CPS
as
well.
So
I
think
that
if
the
the
narrow
scope
as
suggested
is
certainly
workable,
but
in
terms
of
the
other
responsibilities
as
it
relates
to
planning,
you
know
things
like
inclusionary.
E
You
mr.
mayor
to
you
to
staff
I
guess
would
this
implementation
of
this
motion
and
the
changes?
That's
gonna
happen
how
much
staff
time
is
gonna
take,
and
this
is
gonna
impact
any
project
right
now
that
we're
already
moving
forward
the
city
is
moving
forward
with
them.
That's
how
how
this
is
gonna
come
and
take
place
from
your
perspective.
Q
Mr.
mayor,
if
the
motion
is
amended
as
councillor
flurry
has
suggested,
it
does
narrow
the
impact
considerably
and
as
miss
Burrell
indicated,
and
she
can
speak
and
add
two
points
we
would
likely
have
carried
those
reports
to
both
committees,
regardless
because
of
their
impact,
and
then
certainly
council
at
any
kind
of
time,
can
direct
us
to
take
for
information
to
another
committee
should
that
be
necessary
through
direction.
Q
B
B
I'd
urge
members
of
council
not
to
support
this.
We
heard
from
our
staff
that
there
are
a
number
of
issues
that
rightfully
belong
with
the
planning
committee,
we're
going
to
be
dealing
with
inclusionary
zoning,
a
DC
bylaw
review,
official
plan,
transit,
oriented
development
and
the
placement
of
affordable
housing
near
transit
stations,
which
is
a
planning,
responsibility,
the
TMP
and
so
on,
and
we've
heard
from
the
the
chair
planning
and
the
last
term
of
Council
that
the
system
that
we
had
in
place
is
working
well,
I,
don't
like
the
idea
of
joint
committees.
B
O
F
H
L
K
B
B
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
mayor,
during
the
recent
campaign,
getting
elected
I
heard
a
lot
about
bus
routes.
People
are
thrilled
with
the
LRT
coming,
but
it's
a
long
ways
off
in
Bay
Ward,
one
of
their
top
concerns
was
was
what
they
felt
was
an
arbitrary
cut
to
a
route
that
was
well
well
used
and
well
thought
of,
and
it
you
know
it
was
obvious
that
there
was
there
was
concerns
in
terms
of
of
how
these
decisions
were
made.
When
route
number
11
was
was
cut.
C
We
have
a
substantial
budget,
and
one
of
our
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
is
update
service
during
the
different
sessions,
the
fall
the
winter
and
the
summer,
and
we
take
into
consideration
the
workability,
but
one
route
that
was
particularly
that
I
noticed
was
number
11
was,
was
cut.
That
was
a
well
used
service
and
it
just
seems
there
was
a
disconnect
and,
as
I
talked
to
individuals
across
the
ward
I
heard
about
it,
and
it
was
clear
that
that
we
need
more
input
to
to
have
these
roots
work.
C
B
R
You,
mr.
mayor
and
and
perhaps
what
I'll
describe
is
how
the
current
system
works.
It's
as
we
adjust
the
network
four
times
a
year
and
the
way
the
structure
were
set
up.
It
enables
counselors
those
of
you,
because
you
know
your
community
is
better
than
we
do
to
consult
with
staff
and
make
adjustments
leading
up
to
those
quarterly
adjustments
and
also
in
between
those
adjustments,
and
so
you
know,
recent
evidence
of
that
is
counselor
harder
in
her
ward
councillor,
fluidity.
R
In
his
ward
and
last
night,
we
met
with
a
group
from
from
the
Vanek
group
that
wants
some
adjustments
on
those
routes.
The
the
golden
rule
is,
of
course,
we
work
within
existing
resources
and
what
the
current
system
does
is.
It
enables
the
ward
councillors
to
request
adjustments
and
to
work
with
the
community
and
to
implement
those
adjustments.
The
motion-
that's
before
you
for
consideration,
would
in
essence
eliminate
that
flexibility
you'd
bring
it
to
a
citywide
discussion,
so
your
route
would
be
up
against
other
wards
in
terms
of
discussions.
R
It
would
severely
protract
the
timelines
and
and
to
be
candid
and
blunt
basically,
you'd,
be
stuck
on
for
adjustment
periods
and
little
virtually
no
adjustments,
in-between
I've,
already
met
with
some
councillor,
elects
we're
working
on
some
solutions.
There
and
I'd
be
happy
to
work
with
with
councilor
cabinet
on
on
the
route
11.
The
other
recent
examples
I
point
to
is
there
was
some
adjustments
made
with
the
LRT
that
several
councillors
were
not
satisfied
with
quickly
implemented
those
changes.
If
we
did
not
have
that
delegated
authority,
we
would
have
to
bring
a
report.
R
Two
counts
to
committee
then
rise
to
council
and
we
wouldn't
even
be
near
implementing
those
roots.
So
we
wrap
the
service
around
the
single
most
important
thing,
and
that's
the
customer.
You
own
the
service
you
on
the
interaction
with
your
communities.
You
know
them
better
than
we
do,
and
so
the
flexibility
that
currently
is
in
place,
we
think
is,
is
in
best
interest
of
everyone.
This
motion
would
would
restrict
us
severely
and
again
to
be
candid.
P
Thank
you.
Mr.
mayor
and
I
understand
the
motivation
councillor
Kavanagh
for
bringing
that
forward,
but
I
would
go
look
at
councillor
Dean's
and
recall
when
she
was
the
chair
of
transit
and
when
we
had
a
nightmare
situation
with
routes
there
was
major
route
changes,
etc.
At
that
time.
Nobody
knows
your
ward,
like
you,
do.
No
one
knows:
Bar
Haven,
like
I,
do
I
have
60,000
people.
P
We
are
far
away
okay,
without
the
help
that
I've
had
from
mr.
man
Kony
and
his
team
working
within
what
was
already
available
in
bar
Haven
and
being
able
to
MacGyver
that,
if
you
will
I
would
not
be
having
the
changes.
It
is
far
from
perfect.
Okay,
there
are
snow
days
when
it's
still
awful.
There
are
still
full
buses
that
are
passing
people
by
I.
Don't
want
to
get
involved
with
what
counselor,
dude
us
and
counselor
lulav
are
doing
in
their
neck
of
the
woods.
P
I
don't
know:
they're
people
I'm
not
talking
to
them,
I'm
not
receiving
the
phone
calls
I'm
not
receiving
the
emails
I'm,
not
having
people
confront
me
in
every
single
place
that
they
possibly
can,
whether
it's
mental
wreck,
Walter
Baker,
the
ruthie,
Dickinson
or
any
store
in
bar
Haven,
or
on
a
bus
when
I'm
there
when
I'm
on
the
bus
about
them.
They
know
what
their
needs
are,
gonna
be
and
how
to
best
help
their
people
working
with
our
senior
management.
P
So,
with
all
due
respect,
I
suggest
you
do
not
support
this,
that
you
continue
to
work
with
the
management
they're,
always
going
to
try
their
very
best
to
come
up
with
solutions.
The
only
time
I've
had
a
crossover
situation
was
a
person
who
lives
in
cat
and
councillor
McKenna's
board
who,
as
you
know,
it
was
about
the
it's
about
when
the
LRT
opens
and
changing
that
that
route
will
go
back
to
what
it
was
that
goes
to
the
RCMP
so
other
than
that.
Take
care
of
your
own
backyard
work
hard
with
OC
Transpo.
O
E
G
You
mr.
mayor
I'd,
like
to
support
what
councillor
harder
just
said.
These
it
becomes
absolutely
unbearable
if
those
operational
decisions
were
made
by
the
planning
or
by
the
transit
committee.
They
would
become
very
politicized.
I'd
like
to
ask
mr.
Marconi
whether
other
large
cities
in
Canada,
in
his
opinion,
in
other
large
cities
in
Canada,
should
say:
do
the
public
transit
committees
have
operational
responsibilities
within
their
mandate?
I
think
no.
But
in
some
cities
like
Toronto
and
in
Toronto,
for
example,
there's
the
the
Ottawa
transit
rider
group,
that's
been
started
up.
G
G
So,
with
a
dialogue
with
the
community,
things
can
be
changed.
In
my
view,
Toronto
is
set
up.
Much
like
we
are
and
has
the
same
approach,
but
I
can
find
out.
I
agree
with
the
notion
that
dialogue
with
community
groups
and
wards
are
crucial
in
dealing
with
problems
and
difficulties
that
arise
with
one
route
or
another.
I
can
say
from
experience
that
dealing
with
OC
Transpo
and
their
people
are
always
all
are
always
engaged
in
with
the
aim
of
helping
people
like
councillor
harder
I.
Don't
think
that
this
motion
by
councillor
Kavanagh
should
be
supported.
G
B
M
Thank
You
mr.
mayor.
Well,
let
me
just
start
by
saying
that
I
certainly
understand
councillor
Cavanaugh's
motivation
for
this
motion,
because
we
all
heard
plenty
during
the
election
and
since
the
election
about
transit
routes
and
the
frustration
that
the
public
have
with
those.
But
as
councillor
harder
correctly
pointed
out,
I
mean
I.
M
Think
for
me,
the
issue
is
making
sure
that
we
have
enough
funds
in
our
transit
budget
to
provide
the
quality
service
across
the
city
that
we
all
need
and
that
our
electors,
our
residents,
expect.
But
for
us
to
get
into
that
level
of
detail
and
setting
the
roots
really
ends.
We
don't
ever
cut
an
inefficient
route.
That
way,
everything
goes
that's
what
we
saw
in
the
past
and
for
that
reason,
I'm
not
going
to
support
this
motion.
Thank.
L
Mahoney
I
just
want
to
ask
you
and
I,
don't
want
to
put
you
on
the
spot
but
I'm.
Ultimately,
what
I
want
is
a
better
ability
to
impact
change.
Keeping
in
the
whole
city
context.
Is
there
a
way
that
I
don't
get
quarterly
meetings
with
OC
Transpo
brass
I
mean
you
and
I
had
an
appointment
today
at
11:30,
we're
probably
not
going
to
make
that
today,
but
mr.
Scrimgeour,
your
assistant
deals
with
a
lot
of
issues
in
my
ward,
he's
very
good,
but
sometimes
I
get
sort
of
the
standard
response.
L
So
how
can
councillors
get
effective
change
within
their
communities?
We
keep
hearing
about
bar
Haven
issues.
Oc
Transpo
has
significant
challenge
as
well
trying
to
meet
those
needs,
but
I
think
that's.
What
we're
trying
to
look
for
is
a
a
better
balance
when
chronic
issues
in
Ward's
continue
to
persist
year
after
year
after
year.
What
is
the
best
way
to
address
and
deal
with
those
issues.
R
Councillor,
you
do
exactly
what
what
you've
done
you've
reached
out
to
me.
You've
asked
for
a
meeting
and
we're
supposed
to
meet
today
and
I'm,
bringing
you
some
good
news
on
some
of
your
chronic
issue.
It's
gonna
take
some
time,
and
but
we
have
a
plan
to
address
one
of
your
chronic
issues
and
it's
it's
the
proof
of
concept
that
I
just
talked
about
that
once
we
know
the
level
detail
other
than,
as
you
know,
I
like
the
meeting
yesterday,
we
had
with
the
auto
transit
group.
R
If
one
of
the
speakers
said
it
well,
is
it
a
perceived
problem
or
is
it
a
real
problem?
Once
we
have
the
facts
and
it's
sometimes
it
takes
time
to
get
the
facts,
and
sometimes
it
takes
the
ward
councillor
to
do
some
things
councillor
hard
or
unlock
some
issues
for
us
on
some
areas
where
we
couldn't
run
buses
again,
because
she
knows
the
ward
I
do
have
an
update
on
your
issue
and
it's
because
you've
brought
the
facts
to
us.
We
were
able
to
do
that
deep
dive.
Mr.
R
scrimmages
done
the
analysis
and
if
we
have
our
meeting
today
or
tomorrow
would
so
to
me
it's
it's
very
straightforward.
It's
that
you,
you
ask
us,
you
bring
us
the
problems.
Councillor
Dean's
is,
if,
like
some
issues
for
me,
I'm
doing
a
deep
dive
on
that
one
also,
and
once
we
know
of
the
the
real
issues
we
can
look
at
that
and
bring
those
things
to
you
not
cast
in
stones,
and
you
can
have
the
dialogue
with
your
community.
N
You
mr.
mayor
I
do
want
to
also
start
by
thanking
councillor
Kavanagh
for
raising
this.
There
probably
isn't
a
day
that
goes
by
that
I,
don't
get
an
email
from
frustrated
transit
rider,
and
you
know-
and
at
this
point
you
know
we're
we're
in
a
tougher
position.
We're
waiting
for
LRT
to
open
things
will
change,
but
you
know
I
think
that
councillor
Dean's
articulated
at
best.
The
issue
is
that
you
know
if
we
don't
if
there,
if
we
don't
have
the
service,
it's
it's
not
because
I
should
be
taking
it
from
somewhere
else.
N
It's
because
we
don't
have
the
resources
where
we're
dealing
with
too
small
of
a
bucket,
so
I'm
not
going
to
support
the
motion.
I
certainly
would
not
want
to
put
any
of
us
myself,
especially
you
know
in
a
position
where
I
fighting
for
someone
else's
resources,
because
I
don't
want
a
route
in
in
the
ward
that
serves
residents
that
I
represent
truncated
and
I.
Think
you
know
if
we
look
back
at
the
number
eleven
when
that,
when
that
route
was
was
changed
and
we
came
out
and
we
asked
for
a
reinstatement,
we
did.
N
N
My
concern
is
that
we
would
be
fighting
over
routes
that
don't
affect
our
residents
so
that
we,
you
know
that
we
keep
our
our
preferred
routes,
but
that
the
very
neighborhoods
who
often
need
better
transit
could
be
the
losers,
the
ones
who
don't
have
the
resources
for
this
strong
advocacy,
the
ones
whose
you
know
residents.
Perhaps
if
they're
you
know
lower-income,
aren't
able
to
come
out
and
and
and
voice
their
concerns
in
the
same
way
as
other
neighborhoods
could
be
the
you
know,
and
and
are
often
the
ones
left
out
of
those
broader
decisions.
N
So
I
just
want
to
I
wanted
to
go
on
record
as
to
why
I'm
not
able
to
support
this
motion
today
so
that
we
can
move
forward.
But
I
do
want
to
make
one
last
comment,
and
that
is
that
you
know
when
we
hear
it's
about
resources.
You
know
in
this
upcoming
budget
I
expect
from
every
department
to
understand
and
to
be
you
know
to
be
given
the
evidence
in
firm
ation.
N
We
need
on
what
the
resources
are
to
meet
the
needs
of
residents,
so
if
it
is
underfunding,
I
want
to
hear
that
and
I
think
that
that's
when
that's
the
conversation
that
needs
to
happen
not
so
much
root
versus
the
other,
but
you
know
how
much
more
money
do
we
put
in
transit
services
or
housing
or
recreation?
If,
in
fact,
that
is
the
issue,
Thank
You.
H
You
mr.
mayor
I
want
to
thank
my
council
colleague
for
bringing
this
forward.
As
many
of
us
have
mentioned,
this
is
a
top-of-mind
issue
for
our
residents.
I
will
say
that
I
will
not
be
in
favor
of
this
motion
because
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
anything
that
political,
it
Assizes
an
operational
procedure
and
I
have
to
say
that
you
know,
after
after
being
elected,
I,
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
mr.
Mahoney
and
mr.
Scrivener
and
many
of
their
staff,
and
they
were
quite
forward
for
thinking
forward.
H
C
C
B
A
You,
mr.
mayor
so
I'll
start
8
years
ago
there
was
a
review
of
the
entire
Advisory
Committee
structure.
There's
been
some
changes
that
are
very
effective.
I've
been
the
liaison
for
the
culture
and
Recreation
Advisory
Committee
for
some
time
and
I've
noticed
that
members
of
our
community
is
sitting
on
more
formal
committees
and
and
some
of
the
the
rules
and
regulations
there
they're
not
familiar
with
them.
A
So
what
I'm
trying
to
do
is
keep
the
exist,
the
same
structure
but
pilot
for
one
of
the
advisory
committees,
a
structure
where
the
the
the
same
reporting
mechanisms
would
be
in
place.
The
same
consultation
would
be
in
place.
Obviously
we
would
ask
that
staff
that
presented
that
committee
come
as
early
as
possible
before
there's
a
draft
report
for
really
input,
but
fundamentally
that
we
would
allow
for
the
committee
more
of
a
cafe
style
discussion
on
the
staff
proposal
and
that,
if
appropriate,
that
the
location
could
be
moved.
I'll
give
you
an
example.
A
A
So
those
are
the
sort
of
that
this
sort
of
pilot
that
I'm
looking
forward
to
I'll
read
the
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
staff
be
directed
to
examine
options
within
the
existing
government
framework
and
budgets
for
improving
the
ability
for
advisory
committee
members
to
provide
input
in
decision-making,
including,
but
not
limited,
to
providing
additional
flexibility
within
the
within
and
outside
of
the
Advisory
Committee
rules
and
procedure
to
eliminate
any
barriers
to
participation
and
feedback.
Having
advisory
committee
meet
in
the
community
rather
than
at
City
Hall.
A
When
the
when
relevant
to
the
agenda
item
or
project
under
discussion
and
providing
additional
guidance
to
staff
on
the
requirements
for
bringing
forward
items
to
the
Advisory
Committee
in
a
timely
matter
and
that
requirements
for
providing
on
that
feedback
and
requirements
for
reporting
on
the
feedback
received
and
be
it
FURTHER.
Resolved
that
these
administrative
process
improvements
be
piloted
with
the
arts,
culture
and
Recreation
Advisory
Committee,
and
that
staff
be
directed
to
report
back
as
part
of
the
2018
2020.
To
midterm
governance
review
now.
S
They
think
your
worship,
not
only
am
I
sexiness,
I'm
gonna
vote
for
it.
It
no
I
think
it's.
This
particular
committee,
especially,
is,
is
the
right
one
to
choose
to
pilot
this,
because
it's
the
one
that
needs
to
be
most
agile
yet
at
the
same
time,
relaxed
and
I
think
this
committee
will
probably
appreciate
it
more
than
others
and
if
it
doesn't
work
there,
we're
not
gonna,
try
it
anywhere
else.
Obviously,
the.
H
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
and
I'm,
looking
forward
to
see
council
Schiraldi
and
some
of
those
Advisory
Committee.
My
question
is
to
the
staff
the
cause
of
move
and
meeting,
because
I
know
we
have
a
legislative
to
stay
in
the
city
for
recording
for
translation
for
other
move
in
a
meeting
outside
the
City
Hall.
What
will
be
the
cost
of
this?
Yes,.
H
F
Mayor
what
it's
being
proposed
does
not,
as
I
understand
the
motion,
a
suggestion
that
all
of
the
meetings
of
the
Advisory
Committee
would
be
moved
off-site
to
non
city
facilities.
But
rather
we
would
work
within
our
existing
budget
envelope
to
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
If
there
was
an
issue
pertaining
to
a
particular
location
to
move
that
meeting
to
that
location,
minimizing
the
cost
and
accommodating
within
our
existing
Advisory
Committee
budget
and.
B
So
on
the
motion
carried
on
the
item
as
amended,
carry
item
to
the
renewal
of
the
current
public
members,
appointments
to
the
planning
advice
community
for
2018
2020
to
carry
item
three.
The
advice
that
Advisory
Committee
Council
liaisons,
be
appointed
by
the
relevant
standing
committees
as
outlined
in
this
report,
carry
item
four
that
the
following
measures
be
implemented
to
address
requirements
from
bill
175.
B
The
safer
Ontario
act
that
the
GM
of
emergency
protective
services
be
directed
to
draft
a
community
safety
and
well-being
plan
and
to
bring
forward
to
CPS
and
council
report
regarding
the
work
plan
for
developing
the
community
safety
and
well-being
plan.
No
later
q4
2019
is
outlined
in
this
report
and
at
the
terms
of
reference
for
crime
prevention,
Ottawa
BIA
amended
to
provide
CPO
with
a
responsibility
to
establish
an
advisory
committee
to
be
designated
at
the
city's
community
safety
and
well-being.
Advisory
Committee
for
the
purposes
of
bill
175
by
q2
2019
is
outlined
in
this
report.
B
Q
The
issue
that
I
am
identifying
today
is
a
recommendation
from
staff
in
the
governance
report
on
page
68
to
change
slightly
the
way
in
which
the
budget
the
budget
process
operates
and
in
fairness
to
staff,
I
suspect
they
are
doing
so
because
they
must
have
heard
from
a
number
of
councillors
who
were
perhaps
dissatisfied
with
the
way
the
budget
process
worked
over
the
last
term
of
Council
and
so
I
thank
them
for
giving
it
an
excellent
try.
That
said,
I
don't
think
it's
quite
right.
Q
The
way
it's
proposed
in
the
report
and
just
to
explain
what
the
report
recommends
right
now
is
in
a
standing
committee
context,
whereas
in
the
previous
term
of
council
the
standing
committee
was
restricted
to
proposing
any
increases
in
its
budget,
it
had
to
find
offsets
within
its
own
budget.
What
the
proposal
is
on
page
68
is
that
a
standing
committee,
if
it
wished
to
increase
its
budget,
would
be
allowed
to
identify
offsets
in
other
standing
committee
budgets.
Q
So,
to
give
an
example,
if
at
cpsc
committee
we
heard
from
dozens
of
delegations
that
stress
the
importance
of
fire
prevention
and
the
need
for
greater
fire
service
resources-
and
the
committee
said:
okay,
we're
going
to
recommend
another
fire
truck
in
order
to
finance
that
they
could
go
into
the
transportation
budget
and
say
we're
taking
that
from
snow
plowing
or
any
other
committee
offset.
And
of
course,
if
CPSC
is
meeting
last,
then
there
would
be
no
opportunity
for
members
of
the
transportation
committee
or
others
to
perhaps
a
challenge
that
or
question
it
and
so
again.
Q
Well,
I
think
the
goal
was
increased
flexibility.
My
fear
is,
it
would
result
in
a
little
bit
of
chaos
in
terms
of
committees,
poaching
from
one
another
in
ways
that
maybe
aren't
as
transparent
and
art
is
clear
to
the
public
as
they
ought
to
be.
That
said,
the
purpose
behind
it
I
think
is,
is
valid,
and
the
issue
here
is
that
standing
committees
do
often
hear
from
many
many
members
of
the
public.
Q
So
you
could
often
get
dozens
of
people
coming
out
to
speak
to
a
certain
issue
and
under
the
previous
rules,
the
standing
committee
had
no
formal
way
of
communicating
to
committee
of
the
whole
that
there
might
be
a
particular
budget
pressure
and
so
well.
I
think
the
goal
should
always
be
for
standing
committees
to
find
ways
of
solving
budget
pressures
within
their
own
budget.
It
certainly
has
occurred
and
I
can
imagine
it
could
occur.
Q
If
a
standing
committee
or
ultimately
committee
of
the
whole
feels
that
there
needs
to
be
an
adjustment
in
a
in
a
particular
budget,
so
in
place
of
what
staff
have
put
forward,
what
I'm
suggesting
is
that,
in
a
case,
let's
use
the
fire
truck
example
again,
CPSC
feels
it
needs
another
fire
truck
or
the
city
needs
another
fire
truck.
It
doesn't
feel
confident
identifying
offsets.
Q
What
could
happen
in
that
case
is
they
simply
identify
through
the
motion
that
goes
to
committee,
the
hole
that
they've
identified
a
fire
truck
as
a
budget
pressure
in
the
intervening
period
between
CPSC
and
community,
the
whole
staff
would
be
asked,
then
to
say:
well,
if
you
want
another
fire
truck
here,
are
the
various
options:
reserves,
reallocation,
offsets,
increased
resource
requirements,
other
levels
of
government
etc?
So
it
gives
a
little
bit
of
rigor
to
the
process.
Q
It
gives
staff
an
opportunity
to
provide
advice
to
committee
the
whole
on
options
should
committee
of
the
whole
choose
to
respond
to
that
budget
pressure,
but,
of
course,
committee
of
the
whole
can
ultimately
also
say
sorry,
we
don't
think
the
city
does
need
another
fire
truck
and
that
financial
pressure
would
not
be
accepted.
So
it's
it's
a
slightly
different
process
than
what
put
forward
68,
I,
think
it's
more
transparent,
I
think
it
gives
greater
flexibility
to
committees
without
raiding
other
committees,
budgets
and
I.
Q
S
In
the
via
FURTHER
RESOLVED,
section
from
the
word
prior
onward
strike
that
okay,
that
is
the
motion
and
okay.
If
they
could
scroll
up,
because
you
can't
actually
see
what
I'm
striking
scroll
down
then,
if
further
okay,
can
you
see
it?
Okay,
so
just
strike
that
so,
first
of
all,
I
I
want
to
support
the
motion.
I
understand
that
technically,
under
the
current
system,
you
could
technically
do
this,
but
in
practice
it's
not
likely.
Any
change
is
not
likely
to
pass
and
we've
got
ample
evidence
of
that
over
the
last
eight
years.
S
S
It
identifies
that
as
a
pressure
that
goes
to
committee
of
the
whole
and
allows
committee
of
the
whole
to
either
approve
or
not
approve
proposed
reduction
in
another
envelopes
area,
but
it
also
allows
that
period
of
several
days
between
the
committee
meeting
and
the
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting
for
members
to
speak
with
staff
to
find
out
the
funding
sources,
for
example,
of
the
things
that
you're
you
might
propose
to
cut.
They
may
not
be
those
that
actually
have
the
same
net
impact
on
the
bottom
line.
S
They
also
provide
the
opportunity
for
staff
or
members
of
council
to
gather
around
and
see
what
makes
more
sense
or
whether
this
the
proposal
would
actually
make
sense
and
it
lets
those
decisions
happen
in
the
open
in
a
transparent
way
for
the
public
to
see.
So
if
there
is
a
proposal,
for
example,
to
add
a
fire
truck
which
is
in
one
envelope
take
out
I,
don't
know
a
decorative
structure
at
a
transit
station.
That's
in
another
envelope,
then
it
lets
committee
of
the
whole
make
that
decision
and
make
it
set
that
priority.
S
But
by
adding
this
amendment
it
doesn't
just
fluff
it
off
onto
staff
to
come
up
with
a
setting
of
priorities.
It
leaves
us
to
set
the
priorities
because
we
were
the
ones
elected
to
set
the
priorities
and
I
think
doing
it.
This
way,
the
public
will
be
able
to
see
how
we
actually
are
setting
priorities
and
they'll
be
able
to
see
what
choices
are
actually
being
made,
and
it
will
be
something
that
is
actually
possible
and
not
just
technically
possible.
H
Thank
you
mr.
mayor,
when
I've
got
a
question,
but
then
I
would
encourage
my
colleague
not
to
support
either
the
amendment
or
the
motion.
Mr
O'connor
in
in
a
pass.
Each
committee
will
take
care
of
their
budget.
If
there's
an
increase
or
decrease,
we
have
to
find
it
within
that
budget
am
I,
correct,
that's
correct!
Mr.
H
H
H
H
P
You
mr.
mayor
and
I
would
I'm
just
going
to
start
off
with
Transportation
Committee
I
think
that,
as
things
currently
stand,
we
usually
get
one
or
two
intersections
done
in
the
city
a
year.
Okay,
there's
going
to
be
unless
we
change
things.
Unless
the
recommendation
comes
back,
we're
going
to
be
still
about
two
million
dollars
or
something
in
the
budget
for
all
the
intersections
I
forget
how
many
I
think
there's
50
on
the
list.
Okay,
we
have
one
at
Barnsdale
and
Prince
of
Wales.
P
That
has
there's
others
that
are
priorities,
but
they
have
had
accident
records
of
three.
This
one
has
30
in
my
mind
just
because
of
the
safety
issue
alone
and
that
many
accidents
it
should
be
there
should
be.
A
mechanism
allows
us
to
do
that,
and
I
mentioned
that
to
mr.
Kenton
lacus
so
say
in
transportation.
All
of
us
come
forward
and
say
we
want
those
50
funded.
That's
gonna
mean
an
amount
of
money.
P
Okay,
if
you
want
to
make
a
decision
on
transportation,
then
you're
gonna
have
to
make
the
decision
today,
based
on
what
else
is
in
that
that
envelope
and
that's
okay,
okay
and
the
reason
it's
okay
is
because
we
set
policy.
We
set
a
guideline
for
budget
and
these
people
work
really
really
hard
to
implement
and
to
use
their
best
advice
in
guiding
us
through.
P
Where
we
have
positions
of
you
know
where
you're
it's
your
turn
to
have
a
crossing
guard
and
the
warrants
have
been
achieved
and
all
of
those
things
that
will
happen
and
that
are
funded
through
the
budget.
I,
don't
want
to
put
them
in
a
position
to
win
or
lose
the
popularity
contest,
quite
frankly,
okay
on
based
on
the
fact
that
maybe
six
of
us
get
together
and
overburden
over
and
and
and
tell
them.
P
The
system
we
have
is
an
effective
system.
You
know
I'll
give
you
an
example
on
a
personal
level,
you
didn't
hear
me
coming
and
saying-
and
I
should
have,
because
in
bar
Haven,
with
the
pressure
and
the
population
and
the
safety
issues
that
we
have
with
the
tracks
and
everything
else,
I
could
put
forward
a
very
good
argument
as
to
why
I
should
steal
from
somebody
else
in
this
city.
Okay,
my
job
is
to
make
the
best
decision
I
can,
with
what
I
have
so
I
had
to
make
a
decision
to
take.
P
Eighty
million
dollars
from
the
Green
Bank
realignment
to
spend
it
on
strand
hurt
instead,
which
will
have
an
overpass
and
address
one
of
those
safety
issues,
and
it
is
a
project
that
right
now,
strand
heard,
which
is
the
new
Hunt
Club,
which
is
the
third
for
seventeen,
is
a
Ring
Road
that
a
full
third
of
it
is
a
two-lane
rural
road
with
ditches.
That
was
the
decision
that
I
had
to
make
based
on
representing
my
folks.
P
Remember
that
when
they
put
the
budget
forward,
there's
room
for
movement
they're,
reflecting
from
their
best
knowledge
and
taking
into
account
our
best
directions
to
come
forward
with
something
that
they
feel
will
represent
and
serve
our
public
very
well,
our
citizenry
very
well,
so
to
ask
them
to
go
back
and
then
make
other
choices.
Be
careful
what
you
ask
for,
because
it
could
be
your
library,
that's
on
the
chopping
block
and
I'm
telling
you,
if
that's
not
pretty,
to
see
that
happen.
2004
was
a
nightmare.
Thank
You!
Mr.
mayor.
G
Burner
pisander
least
WA
concierge,
our
Sifu
clay,
Sharon
question
Yonah,
yeah,
I
posed
geography,
a
question
you
can
see:
Al
Shean,
Terry,
Sullivan,
Castillo,
circuitry
and
Wanda
repairs
on
Twitter.
She
do
question
so
far
about
severe
addiction,
the
depot's
and
Ontario
dbj
de
la
Villa,
Mella
ooh
D
key
for
you.
Don't
you
hear
the
link
particular
for
the
committee
clarify.
E
F
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
the
city
clerk
was
correct.
It's
what
we're
recommending
here
is.
You
could
look
across
other
standing
committees,
but
they
have
to
be
appropriate
funds.
You
have
specific
tax
levies.
So,
for
example,
the
what
I
heard
was
a
question
taking
a
firetruck
and
funding
it
from
transit.
Well,
you
can't
do
that.
Your
transit
levy
is
a
dedicated
levy.
We
raise
it
only
for
transit.
F
You
can't
use
that
money
to
buy
a
firetruck,
so
in
consultation
with
staff,
because
we
would
have
to
tell
you
is
this
an
appropriate
either
an
expenditure
reduction
or
a
revenue
to
use
for
whatever
it
is
you're
trying
to
add
to
the
budget?
So
there
is
consultation
that
goes
back
and
forth
in
crafting
those
motions
to
begin
with.
We
have
when
we
I
can
remember
a
few
years
ago
we
had
an
issue
with
child
care
and
they
wanted
to
increase
the
amount
we
we
put
into,
or
maybe
it
wasn't
child
care.
F
We
think
it
was
something
in
in
social
services
area.
We
came,
we
collectively
went
together
and
worked
on
it
and
came
up
with
a
wafer
to
be
funded
within
its
own
within
its
own
budget,
but
now
we're
expanding
it
a
little
bit
more
so
you'd
be
able
to
look.
For
example,
non-departmental,
that's
one
of
the
bigger
areas
in
the
city
and
there's
lots
of
revenues
and
expenditures
in
there.
You'd
be
able
to
look
in
that
as
well.
F
What
is
an
appropriate
revenue
is
really
anything
other
than
a
tax
increase,
because
if
you
ask
for
tax
increase,
then
you're
asking
to
go
beyond
the
mandates.
You've
given
us,
but
there's
no
saying
that
if
you
you
don't
have
a
solution
for
it
that
you
can't
raise
it
at
committee
of
the
whole
and
ask
for
a
tax
increase
at
that
time,
and
that
has
happened
in
the
past
as
well.
Thank.
E
J
J
And
so
just
to
address
a
couple
of
other
points
that
my
honorable
colleagues
had
mentioned.
I
want
to
be
clear
about
what
this
change
is
recommending
without
without
counsel
Ernest
Baum's
motion
factoring
in
at
all
the
current
change
in
the
governance
report.
If
it
were
to
pass
today
without
councilors
nuts
bombs
motion
would
mean
that
we
are
taking
from
someone
else's
pocket
and
putting
it
into
our
own
pockets
in
committee
structure.
That
is
the
recommended
change
in
the
budget
document.
J
So
right
now,
if
you
don't
pass
council
Nussbaum's
motion
you're
going
to
be
taking
from
other
people's
pockets
and
putting
into
your
own
pockets
as
a
committee
as
a
staff
member
at
FCM
previously
in
the
big-city
mayor's
caucus.
One
of
the
things
we
talked
about
most
was
the
tools
that
municipalities
have
to
be
able
to
raise
revenue
to
be
able
to
work
within
the
budgets
they
have
provincially
and
federally
to
get
things
done,
and
the
campaign
indeed
in
2019
is
going
to
speak
about
those
things
as
well.
J
How
there's
not
enough
tools
in
in
the
toolbox
for
municipalities
and
councillors
to
actually
deal
with
the
priorities
that
they
have
to
deal
with
at
the
local
level?
What
this
motion
does
is
gives
you
more
tools
to
work
with
within
the
current
budget.
I
see
no
reason
why
we
should
further
restrict
ourselves
given
how
restricted
we
are
provincially
and
federally
already
within
this
process,
and
so
you
know
you
can
still
work
with
staff.
You
can
still
identify
offsetting
budget
increases
in
other
areas.
J
If
you
wish
those
things
you
can
still
do,
if
you
prefer
to
do
that,
and
that's
your
concern
to
go
to
another
committee
and
say
hey,
maybe
we
can
work
on
this
too.
Together.
That's
still,
that's
still
fair
game,
but
what
this
also
does
is
say,
look
it.
You
can
also
debate
a
committee
of
the
whole.
What
might
be
the
top
priority
of
another
committee?
That's
a
major
priority
coming
forward.
You
can
debate
that
you
can
discuss
reserves
that
may
exist
you.
J
You
can
also
ask
staff
and
in
this
current
budget
report
the
way
our
excuse
me
governance
report.
The
way
it
is.
You
can't
really
do
that.
You
can
ask
staff
to
identify
areas
and
say
please
you
go
out
and
find
this
spot,
because
this
is
a
pressure
this
committee
is
facing
year
after
year,
we
haven't
been
able
to
address
it.
Help
us
find
something
here.
J
So
this
motion
frees
up
our
hands,
provides
more
tools
for
us
to
work
together
and
identify
collectively,
as
the
mayor's
comments
existed,
that
in
our
swearing-in
ceremony
to
work
together
to
find
what
our
top
priorities
are
to
achieve.
This
so
I'll
be
in
support
of
this
motion.
I
hope.
My
colleagues
also
support
it.
Thank.
K
I
want
to
confirm
that
the
premise
that
the
motion
is
based
on
is
actually
the
correct
interpretation,
so,
as
council
responders
describe
it,
I
think
councillor
Menard,
just
described
and
as
I'm
reading
it,
whichever
committee
goes.
First
is
gonna.
Have
the
pick
of
the
litter
right?
If
I'm,
if
I'm
committee
number
one
and
I've
got
a
gap
that
I
want
to
fund
I'm
going
to
be
able
to
identify
that
offset
from
any
other
of
the
committee's
budgets.
F
Not
quite
so
the
intent
is
is
that
every
time,
if
you're
not
finding
the
offset
within
your
own
particular
committee
budget,
if
there's
a
motion
to
take
from
another
budget,
it
actually
then
goes
to
committee
of
the
whole.
So
every
committee
has
the
opportunity
to
look
at
all
the
other
community
budget,
but
and
everyone
that
is
cross
committee
goes
to
committee
of
the
whole
to
deliberate
on
the
ones.
You
decide
that
you're
able
to
accomplish
within
your
own
budget.
F
B
F
I'm
sorry,
counselor
I,
don't
understand
where
it
limits
us
where
it
limits
the
the
third
or
fourth
committee.
They
still
have
that
option
of
looking
at
from
the
city
budget
as
a
whole,
and
we
provided
a
clarification.
You
know
Kyle,
provided
it
so
recently
that
talked
about
the
fact
that
this
would
all
rise
to
Council.
Yes,.
K
K
If
this
is
the
interpretation
I'm
fine
with,
except
for
we
just
an
hour
ago,
had
a
20-minute
discussion
that
no
one
knew
the
answer
to,
because
management
had
changed
over
years
and
I.
Don't
want
the
interpretation
to
change
in
year,
three
or
four
the
term,
because
you
know
you've
decided
to
move
on
or
someone
else
is
left.
If
that's
the
interpretation
I'm
happy
to
live
with
it,
but
I
want
it
to
be
in
the
interpretation
for
the
four
years
that.
D
Just
add
to
that,
mr.
mayor,
the
Municipal
Act
requires
all
municipalities
to
pass
their
budget
by
council
and
you
cannot
defer
that
in
any
way,
shape
or
form
are
delegated
and
second
off
the
city's
procedure.
Bylaw
mandates.
That
council
will
address
the
the
budget
in
committee
of
the
whole,
so
those
issues
are
already
in
place.
Sure.
N
You
mr.
mayor
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
what
counts
are
harder
I
raised
around
the
intersections
and
the
way
that
this
motion
is
written
today
with
that
fourth
bullet,
the
very
the
the
the
very
issue
that
was
of
concern
that
you
would
be
able
to
quote
unquote
poach
from
another
committee
with
this
bullet
in
place.
That
is
exactly
what
we
would
be
able
to
do.
We
would
be
able
to
pass
a
motion
at
one
committee
recommending
an
offsetting
reduction
in
a
different
committee.
Yes,
it
would.
N
You
would
have
to
get
that
passed
at
committee
by
majority
and
it
would
rise
to
committee
of
the
whole,
but
it
is
a
significant
change
to
2014
2018
when
we
could
only
identify
offsetting
reductions
within
the
the
envelope
that
we
that
the
was
mandated
by
our
committee
is
that
correct
mr.
O'connor?
Yes,.
N
What
this
motion
does
is
it
it
takes
that
away
so
that
you
know
if
you
are
at
CPSC,
and
that's
your
last
committee
and
everybody's,
you
know
we
know
what
has
been
passed
at
other
committees.
We
may
just
be
turning
around
and
poaching
back.
I
mean
I,
think
that
at
the
at
the
vit
I
think
that
this
actually
I
think
that
this
this
gives
us.
You
know
the
the
opportunity
and
not
one
that
I
think
we
want
to
be
looking
at.
You
know
what
priorities
and
what
levels
of
service
we
would
like
to
reduce.
N
So
we
could
in
fact
say
you
know
what
I
want
an
intersection
more
two,
more
intersections
finance
in
this
budget
at
transportation
we
spend
a
bit
of
money
over
there
in
childcare,
so
I'm
gonna
take
it
out
of
childcare
and
that's
the
motion
that
goes
up,
and
that
is
the
debate
and
let's,
let's
be
clear
with
this
in
place.
That
is
the
debate
that
we
will
have
at
committee
of
the
whole.
What
this
motion
does.
N
Is
it
not
only
takes
away
that
that
scenario,
but
it
it
allows
for
flexibility
if,
in
fact,
we
want
to
be
able
to
identify
a
pressure
in
any
standing
committee?
Well
go
back
to
transportation,
you
know
we
are
often
asked
why
we
can't
put
in
place
the
crossing
guards
to
get
our
kids
to
school
safely.
Where
I
said
all
the
time
staff
go
out.
They
say
yes,
it
it
qualifies,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
year
or
two
before
you're
gonna
get
that
crossing
guard.
So,
let's
just
say
a
transportation
committee.
N
We've
got
you
know
we.
We
say
you
know
that's
going
to
cause
that
that
would
be
another
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
to
catch
up
on
that
backlog.
What
the
the
flexibility
for
us
is
that
we're
able
to
have
that
debate
at
committee
of
the
whole
today
when
groups
come
out
to
us
all
of
our
standing
committees,
we
can
sit
there,
we
listen,
we
may
sympathize,
but
we
really
can
do
very
little.
We
can't
do
anything.
We're
not
going
to.
You
know,
take
from
childcare
to
put
more
money
into
into
housing.
N
We're
not
going
to
do
that
at
our
committees,
we're
not
going
to
do
it
at
transportation,
we're
not
doing
it
at
transit.
So
what
this
does
is
it?
It
raises
the
pressures
that
we've
heard
from
from
the
public
to
committee
of
the
whole,
where,
quite
frankly,
that's
where
we
should
be
having
those
conversations
they
have
to
go
through
committee.
N
You
have
to
have
a
majority
of
committee
agreed
to
put
that
on
the
table,
and
then
we
have
that
discussion
and
we
have
our
votes
and
that's
how
democracy
works
and
that's
how
our
City
Council
needs
to
govern
it.
We
need
to
have
those
discussions
in
public
I.
Disagree
that
we
will
be
here
all
day
and
all
night
and
swapping
out
it
can
it
will
be
thoughtful.
It's
why
we
have
standing
committees.
We
all
sit
on
different
standing
committees.
M
M
Well
sorry,
we
don't
have
any
money
and
you
know
we
can't
give
this
group
more
money,
even
though
you're
doing
amazing
work
and
we
recognize
you
don't
have
enough,
because
we'd
have
to
take
it
from
our
housing
budget
and
they
don't
have
enough
either,
and
so
it
was
frustrating
and
I
think
it
led
us
all
to
feel
like
we
left
the
public
feeling
we
weren't
listening
to
them
and
that
just
wasn't
good
enough.
So
now
the
recommendation
in
the
report
today
sort
of
opens
it
up
and
says:
okay.
M
M
So
the
process
that
councillor
Nussbaum
is
recommending
is
that
the
committee
will
listen
to
the
public.
The
committee
does
not
have
to
agree
with
the
recommendations
coming
from
the
public,
but
where
they
very
much
do
agree
that
this
is
something
that
should
be
considered.
This
would
be
sent
to
the
committee
of
the
whole
and
identified
as
a
budget
pressure.
M
The
committee
chairs
the
mayor's
office
to
try
and
identify
if
we
wanted
to
do
that,
how
would
we
best
go
about
that
and
then
that
recommendation
coming
to
the
committee
of
whole
to
me
is
the
best
process
and
the
one
that
creates
the
the
lease
disunity
on
this
council.
So
I
would
very
much
support.
Counseling
news,
vamps
motion,
accounts.
O
Thank
You,
mayor
and
I
would
just
like
to
agree
with
the
previous
two
speakers.
Councillors,
Dean's
and
McKenney
I.
Think
there's
a
growing
recognition
around
the
table
this
morning
that,
as
written
the
the
process
needs
to
be
fixed
I,
don't
think
we
can
pass
the
recommended
process,
as
is
without
getting
ourselves
into
that
situation
of
you
know,
cutting
lifeguards
in
order
to
pay
for
crossing
guards.
O
I
do
like
the
idea
of
sending
up
that
pressors
list
and
having
the
totality
of
the
pressures
as
identified
by
the
committee
in
front
of
committee
of
the
whole,
it
gives
staff
an
opportunity
to
quantify
to
make
suggestions
as
to
how
those
can
be
dealt
with
over
the
course
of
a
couple
of
weeks
of
discussion
and
debate.
Getting
a
growing
notion
of
how
far
away
we
are
from
our
tax
target
is
is
going
to
be
important
and
the
degree
to
which
the
Committee
of
the
Whole
meeting
is
is
a
day's
long.
O
Bun
fight
is
really
up
to
us.
It
is
up
to
us
to
be
disciplined.
It
is
up
to
us
to
be
thoughtful.
It
is
up
to
us
not
to
be
parochial.
It
is
up
to
us
to
take
a
citywide
view
and
the
degree
to
which
this
council
can
do
that
will
dictate
or
not
the
success
of
this
process.
I
think
I'm,
confident
that
this
council
can
send
up
those
pressures
and
have
a
reasonable
discussion,
a
thoughtful
discussion
about
how
we're
going
to
fund
those.
O
If
we
can
keeping
in
mind
the
tax
target
that
is
set
out
in
our
directions
to
to
staff,
we
need
to
fix
this
line.
The
way
it's
going
to
work
I'm
hearing
is
is
not
going
to
be
an
appropriate
way
to
put
our
budget
together
for
the
next
four
years.
The
process,
as
it's
been
set
out
by
councillor
Nussbaum,
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
understand
what
all
of
the
committee's
priorities
are
to
take
a
look
at
the
the
quantum
of
those
asks
to
make
determinations
about
what
we
can
fund
or
not.
O
Where
can
we
find
offset
or
not,
I
think
if,
if
we,
you
know
one
of
the
nice
nuances
that
councillor
sure
le
has
brought
is
to
take
away
the
staff
requirement
to
to
suggest
how
to
do
those
offsets.
I
can
certainly
see
myself
supporting
that,
but
the
the
process.
We
have
two
processes
in
front
of
us
right
now.
O
One
of
them
is
council
earnest
bones
which
gets
us
to
a
good,
flexible
discussion
or
the
process,
as
it's
been
suggested
in
the
governance
report,
which
I
think
will
only
lead
to
a
lot
of
ill
will
and
and
logistical
a
logistical
nightmare,
so
I'll
be
I'll,
be
supporting
councillor
of
Nussbaum
promotion,
I.
Think.
O
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I'm
in
an
odd
position
this
morning,
because
because
I'm
not
crazy
about
councillor
news
bombs,
motion
but
I'm,
equally,
not
crazy
about
staffs
recommendation
for
all
the
work
that
they
put
into
it.
So
at
this
point,
I
I'm
feeling,
like
I'm,
probably
going
to
vote
against
councilor
news
bombs,
motion
and
I'm,
probably
going
to
vote
against
staffs
recommendation
because
I
don't
think
either
of
them
really
answers
the
answers.
O
The
question
and
both
of
them
have
the
effect
I
think
of
pitting
committee
against
committee,
so
committee
a
will
go
first
and
they'll
decide
to
take
from
committee
B
committee.
B
will
go
the
next
day
and
take
from
committee
a
and
then
on
the
third
day
committee
C
will
take
from
B
and
a
and
then
will
will
throw
up
our
hands
and
will
say
to
staff,
fix
it
and
that's
not
staffs
job.
It's
our
job.
O
The
current
process
that
we
use.
We
do
have
the
ability
to
come
to
committee
of
the
whole
and
make
our
pitch
and
say
we
would
like
to
put
more
money
from
this
project
into
that
project.
That's
the
funding
source!
That's
what
we
want
to
do,
I'm
not
going
to
say
it
was
done
much
in
the
last
term
because
it
wasn't,
but
it's
there
and
it's
available
and
and
one
of
the
things
about
that
that
appeals
is
you're,
doing
it
as
a
group
all
together
having
that
discussion
in
either
these
two
scenarios.
O
If
you
go
the
the
the
report
way
again,
you're
clearly
pitting
committees,
but
even
if
you
go
councillor
news,
poms
way,
I
think
you're
also
putting
councillors
in
a
very
odd
situation,
because
you
sit
on
committee
a
and
you
decide.
This
is
the
priority,
and
this
is
where
the
and
and
and
that's
what
you
want
to
do.
And
then
the
next
day
you
sit
on
committee,
be
same
counts
for
a
different
committee.
Here,
a
different
group
of
citizens
saying
no,
no,
we
need
to
do
this,
and
then
you
say:
oh
wow,
yeah.
That's
right!
O
That's
probably
a
better
priority
than
the
one
I
heard
yesterday,
and
so
how
do
you
vote
on
the
priorities
in
the
second
committee
in
the
third
committee
you're
doing
it
in
a
vacuum?
You're
doing
it
in
a
vacuum
from
your
colleagues
and
you're.
Doing
it
in
a
vacuum
from
from
from
getting
full
input
from
all
the
citizen
groups,
all
the
stakeholders
as
to
what
they
want
to
do
so,
as
I
said,
I'm
I'm
in
the
odd
position
right
now
that
that
I
I
won't
be
supporting
council
news.
O
Mom's
motion,
but
I'll
also
be
asking
for
for
a
recorded
vote
on
the
recommendation
of
staff,
because
I
don't
see
myself
supporting
that
either.
Unfortunately,
as
they
sit
here
and
I've
been
thinking
about
it,
I
don't
have
a
better
idea
and
and
I
wish
that
I
did
to
put
forward
for
us
to
consider
this
morning.
But
I,
don't
think
option
A
or
option
B
solves
what
people
are
concerned
about
or
will
create
a
better
budget.
I
fear
that
what
it's
going
to
do
is
it's
going
to
create
more
dissension.
O
It's
going
to
create
more
fights
and
to
piggyback
a
little
bit
on
one
councillor
harder
said.
You
know
what
you
wish
for
might
not
be
what
you
wish
for,
and
you
might
get
options
on
the
table
that
are
going
to
hurt
your
community
you're
gonna
hurt
the
city
as
a
whole
and
they're
going
to
pick
councilor
against
councilor
staff
knows
the
budget
process
in
some
ways
better
than
we
do.
O
We
know
our
communities,
but
they
know,
for
example,
where
you
can
take
the
money
from
where
you
can
shift
it,
what
you
can
do
with
it
and
the
reality
is
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
amount
of
money
that
we
have
to
play
with
on
the
on
the
budget.
When
you
take
away
the
statutory
obligations
and
the
and
the
shuttered
envelopes
is
not
all
that
much
I'm,
not
sure
everybody
around
this
table
understands
that
at
this
point
in
time,
but
it's
not
all
that
much.
O
It's
a
very,
very
small
slice
of
the
pie
so
again,
I'm
not
gonna
support
either
I
wish
I
had
a
better
idea.
Maybe
staff
can
come
up
with
a
better
idea
by
the
12th.
Assuming
everybody
follows
my
lead
and
votes
everything
down,
I
think
that's
unlikely,
but
again
I
in
good
conscience.
I
can't
support
either
of
these
options
and
I
won't
support
either
of
these
options.
Thank.
L
You,
your
worship,
just
a
few
comments
so
next
week
we're
going
to
give
direction
to
staff
to
set
a
tax
target
so
that
they
can
put
together
the
preliminary
budget
and
we're
gonna
do
that
in
absence
of
a
full
discussion
about
what
our
priorities
are.
We've
just
gone
through
an
election
we've
all
heard
what
the
main
priorities
are
for
our
communities
and
but
we're
gonna
set
that
target
in
absence
of
a
full
discussion
of
the
debate
at
that
time.
L
L
Even
if
there's
no
room
left
within
their
committee
to
provide
additional
resources
to
a
particular
initiative,
they
can
still
address
it
when
it
comes
to
counsel-
and
there
are
ways
to
address
that
we
just
have
a
process
in
place
now
that
has
some
strict
rules
and
parameters
in
place.
So
we
don't
have
chaos,
because
there
were
some
concerns
with
previous
councils
and
the
framework
that
existed.
L
The
proposal
allows
additional
options
or
provides
for
additional
options,
and
flexibility
and
I
do
think
it's
wise
to
have
a
mechanism
where
the
committee
flags
its
main
issues
or
priorities
that
are
not
addressed
within
the
budget.
It's
recommending
to
Council
so
as
councillor
Eglin,
might
admit
and
acknowledge.
Maybe
the
proposal
before
us
isn't
perfect,
but
I
certainly
acknowledge
there
has
to
be
a
little
more
flexibility
than
what
we
worked
with
in
the
last
term
of
council.
There's
also
the
midterm
governance
review
in
two
years.
L
So
we
think
that
this
process
needs
to
be
changed
if
this
is
passed,
there's
an
opportunity
for
council
within
two
years
to
reflect
and
put
something
forward
in
that
case.
So
you
know
every
budget
that
we
pass
must
be
balanced.
So
even
if
committees
come
with
a
shopping
list
of
an
extra
twenty
million
dollars,
there
has
to
be
a
way
to
either
have
an
off
that
or
deal
with
that.
We
can't
pass
budgets
that
aren't
balanced.
L
So
that
is
another
mechanism
that
that
ensures
that
there's
discipline
around
here
so
I
do
think
that
the
committees
have
felt
somewhat
restricted
in
truly
expressing
and
identifying
what
additional
pressures
have
been.
I,
certainly
support
budget
prudence,
and
there
has
to
be
limits
within
there,
but
I'm
certainly
open
to
trying
a
different
option
this
round
to
ensure
that
issues
that
are
not
incorporated
within
committees,
budgets
are
at
least
flagged
for.
L
C
We
have
to
be
careful
when
we
talk
about
the
budget
process,
it's
as
if
we
would
individually
go
to
a
bank
to
see
a
financial
adviser
when
we
go
see
a
financial
adviser.
We
have
a
series
of
options
that
are
proposed
to
us,
and
then
we
make
a
personal
decision
about
our
money.
Now
we
have
a
governance
model
here,
where
we
all
have
our
individual
priorities.
C
A
A
The
community
is
not
appraised
of
all
of
those
sets
of
priorities
that
form
the
budget
within
the
tax
rates
that
were
that
were
discussed
and
and
and
directed
upon
so
I'm.
Okay,
I
go
to
a
consultation.
Someone
says
we
need
a
new
bus
route,
I'm
intrigued
as
a
councilor.
It's
not
necessarily
a
budget
pressure.
It
might
be
a
follow
up
issue,
an
operational
issue
that
I
have
to
take
on
with
OC
Transpo
following
the
budget
consultation.
So
when
we
host
budget
consultations
in
our
community,
the
community
comes
out
and
says:
I
want
this
done.
A
We
we
we
can
factor
that
in
many
ways,
and
sometimes
the
budget
allocation
is
the
way
to
solve,
but
it's
not
always,
but
then
we
take
on
that
information.
We
bring
it
to
committee.
There's
delegations
at
committee,
I
have
no
problem
that
we
stay
within
the
parameters
of
the
overall
strategic
direction.
What
I
struggle
with
is
then,
if
there's
a
collective
agreement
of
a
new
priority
that
emerged
through
the
budget
consultations,
then
we
have
to
find
an
offset
at
this
counsel.
A
So
we
can't
have
an
emerging
issue
come
out
of
all
of
the
consultations
of
all
of
our
committees.
That
is
new.
We
have
to
find
an
offset
at
this
committee
at
this
council.
I
have
no
issues
leading
into
all
of
the
structure
of
formation
of
the
budget
going
through
committee
going
through
our
consultation,
I
think
it
that's.
That
goes
smooth.
That
goes
well.
It's
the
structure
that
if
we
have
an
emerging
issue
and
it
lands
at
this
table
if
it's
new,
we
have
to
find
an
offset
pressure.
A
Even
if
the
majority
of
council
agrees
and
that's
that's
the
type
of
pressure,
if
I
were
our
financial
adviser,
I
would
say
why
remove
that
tool?
Why
remove
that
tool?
You
have
that
tool
in
front
of
you
leave
it
on
the
table.
We
have
the
the
direction
from
the
mayor's
office
from
Council
and
from
senior
management.
Let
that
let
that
be
consulted
upon,
let
that
be
let
the
delegations
come
through
and
then,
if
there's
no
changes
great,
it
lands
at
this
table.
A
We
approve
the
budget,
but
if
there
are
that
we
can
have
that
conversation
and
not
be
squeezed
out,
because
we
haven't
found
an
offset
that
is
the
nuts
and
bolt
of
that
issue.
Let's
not
try
to
reinvent
the
entire
consultation
process
and
budget
evasion
process.
It's
it's
really
at
this
table.
Can
we
find
new
pressures
without
finding
an
offsetting
amount
within
the
existing
budget
and
and
and
to
me
that
that's
the
nuts
and
bolt
I
how
I
I
challenge
us
like
if
you're
not
comfortable
with
with
Toby's
motion?
Well,
then,
why?
What
else?
B
Q
You
Marion
and
thank
you
very
much
to
colleagues,
I
I,
listened
intently
and
I
thought
I
thought
that
was
a
really
important
and
interesting
discussion.
Two
issues
that
I
just
wanted
to
raise.
In
summary
one
of
them
is
there
was
a
suggestion
and
some
of
the
interventions
that
the
draft
budget
you
know
already
is
representing
is
the
staffs
best
sense
of
the
broader
city,
wide
public
interest
and
I.
Think
that's
correct
and
I
think
the
staff
do
an
excellent
job
with
it.
Q
If
we
aren't
prepared
to
contemplate
changes
in
a
more
structured
way
and
that
absolutely
does
risk
a
discussion
around
the
council
table
on
possible
changes,
then
I
am
asking
myself.
Why
are
we
here?
Why
don't
we
just
delegate
the
budget
to
staff,
because
that
would
be
an
option
or
simply
constrain
ourselves.
Q
Even
more
and
say
no
changes
will
be
permitted,
but
I
think
we
recognize
that
a
combination
of
the
consultations
that
we
undertake
and
by
asking
citizens
to
come
to
committee-
and
we
ask
them
to
do
so
because
we
are
I,
think
implicitly
implying
that
they're
showing
up
at
committee
has
the
potential
to
have
an
outcome.
That's
different
from
the
input
and
so
I
think.
Q
Q
It's
very
clear
from
the
way
the
votes
landed
that
had
I
had
the
ability
to
do
that.
My
motion
would
have
failed.
A
majority
of
transit
commissioners
would
have
said
we
don't
agree
with
that
concept
of
a
fare
freeze,
and
so
the
outcome
would
have
been
exactly
the
same
and
in
fact
the
discussion
would
have
happened
at
transit
as
opposed
to
fold
council
with
public
delegations
there
etc,
and
so
it
just
is
a
good
example
of
we're
simply
providing
that
the
flexibility
does
not
mean
we're
gonna
end
up
with
a
different
outcome
on
particular
issues.
Q
Q
The
purpose
of
this
motion
is
to
try
and
find
an
improvement
where
we
feel
that
we
are
listening
to
the
public,
providing
for
a
healthy,
constructive
discussion
around
the
council
table
that
doesn't
end
up
pitting
standing
committee
against
each
other
in
the
individual
process
of
determining
their
own
budget
and
their
own
budget
priorities,
and
so
I'll
stop
there
Thank
You.
Mr.
mayor
great,
thank
you.
B
Just
a
couple
of
observations:
I'm
not
supporting
the
councillor
Nussbaum
motion
I
am
supporting
the
staff
recommendation,
which
can
be
found
on
page
68
and
69.
Let's
just
clarify
a
couple
of
things.
First
of
all,
first
of
all,
if
I
don't
think
they're
gonna
be
a
lot
of
occasions
where
one
committee
is
gonna,
take
from
another
committee.
B
I,
just
don't
think
that's
going
to
happen
because
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
us
sit
on
different
committees
and
we'll
have
the
the
voice
of
that
committee
to
speak
for
or
against
a
particular
issue,
but
it
has
to
pass
the
committee.
If
the
committee
majority
do
not
support
adding
you
know
taking
away
from
the
transit
commission
to
put
into
CPS,
then
it
dies
and
it
doesn't
go
forward.
B
But
if
it
does
pass-
and
this
is
the
change
we've
made
it
more
flexible
because
members
of
council
told
me
they
wanted
some
flexibility
if
it
does
pass,
it
has
to
go
through
the
scrutiny
of
committee
of
the
whole
and
then
council.
So
you
have
those
checks
and
balances,
and
it's
not
one-sided,
and
the
second
beef
therefore
be
it
resolved,
is
really
an
abdication
of
our
responsibility.
We're
saying
we
don't
want
to
take
responsibility
for
being
the
bearer
of
bad
news.
We
have
to
cut
someone
so
we'll
go
and
ask
staff
to
do
it.
B
Well,
staff
wasn't
elected
to
make
the
tough
decisions
we
were
and
I
remember
in
years
gone
by
at
the
old
city,
councillor
Dean's
will
remember
when
we
asked
staff,
they
came
back
with,
let's
cut
the
wading,
pools
the
Royal
Swan
program
and
crossing
guards.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
helpful
advice
that
went
over
like
a
lead
balloon
and
then
we
had
to
regroup
and,
of
course,
find
other
more
sensible
reductions.
This
whole
issue
of
the
public
coming
to
speak
to
us
with
the
system
that's
been
put
in
place
by
the
staff
recommendation.
B
It
allows
the
public
to
have
a
say
at
committee
and
they
know
full
well,
what's
going
to
go
up
the
line
to
committee
of
the
whole
in
the
past,
there
is
no
requirement
for
a
member
of
council
to
signal
at
committee.
I'm
gonna
go
and
try
to
take
money
out
of
another
budget
at
least
now.
There's
that
there's
that
level
of
transparency
and
the
notion
you
know,
let's,
let's
be
honest
with
one
another,
every
single
group
that
appears
before
us
wants
more
money.
B
Not
one
group
in
the
last
eight
years
came
asking
for
less
money,
so
brace
yourself,
folks,
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
people
that
are
gonna,
come
and
see
us
and
sometimes
we'll
be
able
to
adjust
and
and
be
flexible
but
other
times
and
most
of
the
time,
we'll
have
to
say,
I'm.
Sorry,
we
don't
have
the
money
to
do
that
or
it's
not
within
our
mandate
or
because
the
province
has
cut
this.
We're
gonna
have
to
fill
the
void.
B
So
the
reality
is
that
I
think
what
we've
done
with
the
staff
report
is
to
give
greater
flexibility
so
that
a
matter
can
go
up
to
committee
of
the
whole
and
then
on
to
Council
at
budget
time
and
that's
why
I
think
this.
The
recommendation
from
the
staff
is
solid
and
I
think
the
treasurer
outlined
that
very
clearly
for
us,
so
mr.
city
manager,
if
you
could
give
us
your
thoughts
on
the
new
small
motion
and
then
we'll
call
for
the
votes.
Mr.
T
Mayor
I
have
a
couple
of
thoughts
that
I
just
like
to
offer
for
councils
consideration.
The
first
one
is
that
you
know
I've
been
around
long
enough
to
see
the
various
budget
processes.
I.
Think
I'm
on
my
eighth
Council
and
I've
seen
the
various
processes
that
we've
had
and
I
can
tell
you
that
the
portion
of
the
motion,
where
staff
provide
recommendations
in
terms
of
how
to
fund
particular
motions
that
come
out
of
committee,
is
very
challenging
outside
of
standing.
T
What
the
priorities
are
of
council
in
terms
of
what
you
think
are
the
priorities
citywide
and
in
your
own
wards,
a
lot
of
things
that
senior
staff
will
look
at
with
respect
to
budget
solutions
and
options
are
going
to
be
effectively
service,
reductions
and
there's
things
that
we
would
do
maybe
from
a
pure
business
case
perspective
that
might
be
totally
unpalatable.
Politically
wading
pools
was
something
that
you
know
was
tried
in
the
past.
We
have
underutilized
facilities.
We
have
client
service
centers
in
the
rural
areas
that
the
Auditor
General
said
we
should
close.
T
Yet
the
public
believes
that
they
should
be
open,
particularly
in
those
in
those
wards.
There's
all
kinds
of
things
that
if
we
actually
started
looking
at,
we
were
put
on
the
list
that
you
were
considered
but
I
don't
know
how
that
would
be
helpful
because
it
would
basically
effectively
pit
a
counselor
against
counselor
in
terms
of
the
wards
and
the
priorities
in
your
own
wards,
let
alone
what
your
priorities
are.
Citywide
a
strategic
plan
is
coming
to
council
in
the
spring.
We're
going
to
start
that
process
we're
in
a
hurry
up
kind
of
offense.
T
For
this
budget.
We
have
two
budgets
I
just
want
to
remind
council
mayor.
We
have
two
budgets
being
approved
in
2019,
the
2019
budget,
which
will
be
approved
at
the
end
of
March,
early
April,
and
then
the
2020
budget,
which
will
be
approved
later
in
the
year.
Probably
around
December,
in
between
that
there's,
a
provincial
budget
that
lands
in
in
the
spring
and
I
worry
also
about
the
discipline
for
our
staff
in
particular.
T
When
we
don't
know
what
the
impact
is
going
to
be
of
significant
service
changes
or
funding
recommendations,
the
other
thing
I
like
that
is
and
I
believe
one
of
the
counselors
I
think
it
was
councilor
I
do
I
mentioned
is
that
there
isn't
as
much
flexibility
as
you
might
think
in
the
budget,
because
many
of
the
items
in
the
budget
are
provincially
funded
their
transfer
payments.
There
are
federal
money,
there's
revenue
sources
that
we
have
there
fairs
Parks
and
Recreation
fees.
T
There
isn't
as
much
flexibility
quite
frankly
that
you
have
access
to
all
the
all
the
committees
to
make
the
same
equal
and,
as
Marian
said,
you
know,
it
has
to
be
an
appropriate
appropriate
reduction
offset.
You
don't
find
appropriateness
in
every
committee
because
of
the
nature
where
the
funding
comes
from,
whether
it's
rate,
whether
it's
capital
funding,
whether
it's
provincial
funding
and
we
have
mandates
that
we
have
to
deliver.
The
other
thing
I
would
offer
is
that
a
committee
of
the
whole
count
we
come
to
work
every
day
to
try
to
solve
problems
for
councillors.
T
That's
our
that's
our
belief.
That's
our
mandate
and
nothing
stops
councillors,
especially
if
the
next
two
motions
pass,
which
basically
direct
that
the
chairs
of
the
committees
will
work
with
the
mayor
in
the
city
manager,
develop
the
budget
and
each
individual
councillor
will
meet
with
the
mayor
and
the
city
manager
and
the
treasurer
to
look
at
your
own
priorities.
T
You
will
have
significant
input
into
the
development
of
that
budget
and
that's
the
time
when
we
can
get
an
assessment
from
you
in
terms
of
what
things
you
think
are
priorities
and
not
priorities
for
us
as
we
finalize
the
budget
and
bring
it
to
you.
But
that
does
not
stop
any
member
of
council
from
moving
a
motion,
a
committee,
the
whole
from
anything
you've
heard
either
through
your
recent
election.
You
were
just
out
on
the
door
and
you
have
a
pretty
good
sense
of
what's
happening
or
what
happens
from
people
that
come
to
the
committee.
T
Think
for
a
lot
of
us
around
the
council
table
who
have
been
engaged
in
this
process
in
the
past,
making
those
kind
of
decisions
on
the
fly
without
good
analysis
without
a
good
priority
framework
for
us
to
work
in
makes
it
very
challenging
to
to
give
you
the
best
possible
option.
So
you
can
achieve
your
objectives.
B
I
think
counselor
harder
made
the
point
in
years
gone
by.
It
was
like
the
Jerry
Lewis
telethon,
you
know
they
put
the
number
up
and
it
keep
going
up
and
up
and
up-
and
you
know,
by
supporting
the
motion-
we're
abdicating
our
responsibility.
We
have
to
make
some
tough
decisions
and,
if
the
province
so
the
federal
government
come
down
with
a
budget
that
impacts
us,
we
have
to
make
some
tougher
decisions.
B
T
B
B
M
I
just
made
the
result,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
fifth
bullet
and
the
recommended
process
for
the
2018
to
2022
tech
support
justice
Oakland
on
page
67
and
68
in
the
2018
to
2022
council
governance.
Review
report
be
amended
such
that
the
city
manager
be
directed
to
work
with
mayor's
office
and
here's
a
change
and
each
committee
chair
to
develop
draft
annual
budgets
that
are
consistent
with
the
council's
of
perv
budget
direction.
M
I
think
this
is
probably
the
intent
of
the
process
anyway,
but
it
just
didn't
say
that
the
committee
chairs
would
the
city
manager
would
work
with
the
committee
chairs
and
often
the
committee
chairs,
of
the
link
to
the
communities
of
interest
in
those
particular
budgets.
So
I
think
it
will
just
enhance
the
process
to
have
the
city
manager
work
with
the
committee
chairs
as
well
in
its
seconded
by
Councillor,
play
a.
E
B
S
Therefore,
they
resolved
that
the
recommended
process
for
20
19
to
22
tax
supported
budgets,
as
outlined
on
page
67
and
68
in
the
2018
to
2020
20
to
council
governance.
Review
report
be
amended
such
that
the
mayor
will
consult
with
each
member
of
council
with
respect
to
the
members
individual
budget
priorities
and
concerns
before
the
mayor's
office
works
with
the
city
manager
to
develop
the
draft
annual
budgets.
This
may
have
happened
anyway,
but
it
puts
it
into
the
document.
Hey.
B
R
F
B
Okay,
so
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
accountability
and
transparency
that
the
2018
annual
report
of
the
integrity,
commissioner
is
attached
attaches
document
to
be
received.
Pages
74
to
75,
received
item
two
that
the
following
measures
be
implemented
to
address
the
mandatory
requirements
resulting
from
bill
68.
The
modernizing
Ontario's
municipal
legislation
act
2017.
B
They
established
the
draft
Code
of
Conduct
for
members
of
local
boards
by
law,
as
described
in
the
report
and
document
to
is
and
attach
to
document
three
that
the
integrity
commissioner
engaged
an
external
lawyer
on
retainer
is
described
in
the
report
in
document
2
and
adopt
the
process
for
publicly
registering
declarations
of
interest,
as
described
in
this
report.
In
document
carried
item,
3
established
the
draft
Code
of
Conduct
for
members
of
council
bylaws
described
in
this
document
as
respite
in
this
report
and
document
2
is
attached.
B
B
Three
local
boards
received
the
updated
listing
of
local
boards
and
documents
six
in
the
status
report
in
the
compliance
of
the
city's
agency
boards
and
commissions,
with
respect
to
the
Municipal
Act
2001
policy
requirements,
as
outlined
in
this
report
and
direct
staff
to
provide
a
further
update
on
ABC
compliance
agency
boards
and
commission.
As
part
of
the
2018
2020
to
mid
term
governance
report
and
councillor
flurry
has
a
motion
seconded
by
Councillor
Elgin
Terry
conceal
any
yes.
A
Mr.
mayor
veer,
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
I
present
my
motion
I'll
begin
by
just
setting
out
some
context.
So
as
members
of
council,
your
area
might
have
Business
Improvement
associations,
because
they're
in
your
area,
right
away,
you're
a
member
of
the
board
and
I
want
to
thank
the
clerk
for
clarifying
my
second,
whereas
is
as
staff
initiated,
and
it
really
clarifies
our
role
on
the
bi
as
ex
officio
members.
A
It
has
been
situations
for
me
that
have
been
complex
because
I've
had
situations
where
I've
had
to
vote
against
the
BIA
budget,
specifically
because
I
didn't
see
the
improvement
for
a
business
community
on
some
of
our
main
corridors
and
I
wanted
I
wanted
some
clarity
as
to
what
is
my
role
on
those
local
boards.
I
have
no
way
of
not
sitting
on
the
board.
I
want
to
support
our
business
community,
but
I
didn't
agree
with
the
board
direction.
So
I
want
to
thank
the
clarification
and
the
work
of
our
clerk
relating
to
that.
A
A
We
need
proper
reporting
and
governance.
So
I
want
to
what
really
this
does.
Is
it
ensures
that
the
agenda
as
an
agenda
item
that
that
is
that
be
discussed
so
that
we
can
support
our
larger
bis
without
impacting
those
that
have
smaller
budgets,
but
really
relating
to
some
of
the
independence
about
financial
management
and
accountability?
Reporting
to
that.
B
F
Have
to
chime
in
on
this
one
for
sure
just
to
to
state
I,
do
support
this
I
think
that
having
lived
and
breathed
the
ins
and
outs
of
running
a
BIA,
there
are
certainly
some
cautions
when
it
comes
to
the
financial
situation
and
the
stability
of
these
organizations
and
I
think
the
direction
is
provided
here.
Exploring
alternative
governance
and
financial
management
models
is
would
definitely
be
well-received.
So
thank.
A
B
Right
so
on,
the
motion
is
presented
carried
on
the
report,
as
amended
carried
item
number,
to
receive
an
update
on
guidance
and
guidelines
for
selection
panel
members,
as
described
in
this
report
pages.
Eighty
seven.
Eighty
eight
carried
item:
three,
the
Ottawa
lands,
Development
Corporation
Board
of
Directors,
be
six
members
in
consisting
of
four
members
of
council
and
two
citizen
members,
as
outlined
in
this
report,
and
we
have
I
believe
it's
just
now.
One
motion
from
councillor
brockington
seconded
by
Councillor
leaper.
So
if
councillor
Brogdon,
if
you
can
of
the
floor
or
introduce
your
motion,
please.
L
L
Okay,
so
I'll
put
that
on
the
floor.
Thank
you.
Your
worship
move
my
myself
seconded
by
Councillor
leaper.
The
item
before
us
now
is
to
talk
about
a
provision
that
will
provide
a
ward
councillor.
The
opportunity
to
address
the
board
if
her
or
his
community
or
property
within
his
or
her
community
is
on
the
agenda
right
now
for
some
context,
particularly
for
our
new
members,
the
Ottawa
community
lands,
develoment
Corp
was
created
almost
10
years
ago
in
2007
it's
an
arm's-length
corporation.
L
It
has
an
8
member
board,
they're
all
elected
members
of
City
Council
who
are
on
that
board
and
they
deal
with
the
city's
property
because
of
the
confidential
nature
of
their
dealings.
If
you're,
not
a
member
of
the
board,
you
are
not
privy
to
attend
their
board
meetings
just
because
of
real
estate
matters,
and
so,
as
issues
come
up
in
your
ward,
you
are
briefed
by
a
staff
of
the
Corp
and
you
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
input.
L
Don't
think
really
there
should
be
any
matter
dealt
with
in
our
wards
that
we
cannot
be
fully
informed
about
and
have
the
full
opportunity
to
address
the
board
or
Commission
or
any
other
body.
That's
dealing
with
our
wort
under
the
auspices
of
the
City
of
Ottawa,
and
so
this
provides
an
opportunity
not
not
to
be
on
the
board
not
to
sit
on
them.
The
whole
agenda.
L
B
E
Yes,
mr.
mayor,
maybe
I
can
just
sort
of
give
a
brief
explanation
in
terms
of
the
process,
so
you're
absolutely
correct.
If
properties
to
be
circulated,
we're
considering
to
be
surplus.
It
goes
to
the
various
city
departments,
including
the
ward
councillor.
During
that
time,
obviously,
the
ward
councillor
is
consulted.
If,
subsequently,
the
decision
is
to
move
it
forward
into
the
Ottawa
community
alliance,
Development
Corporation.
Obviously
that
takes
action
by
fedko
as
well
as
council.
E
Once
again,
the
local
ward
councillor
would
be
consulted
in
that
regard,
and
we've
had
situations
in
the
time
from
time
to
time
where
the
councillors
basic
assets,
certain
things
to
be
done.
So
as
a
result
of
that
that
would
be
included
within
the
staff
report.
That
would
then
go
to
that
goal,
making
the
recommendation
that
the
lands
be
transferred
into
the
Ottawa
community
lands
corporation
that
ultimately
up
to
a
council.
So
once
it
does
get
into
the
Ottawa
community
lies
Development
Corporation,
it's
for
the
board
itself,
the
directors
to
discuss.
E
S
Your
worship,
just
if
we
look
back
at
the
reason
we
created
this
corporation
and
I,
think
it
gives
a
good
outlook
as
to
why
this
motions
in
front
of
us
originally
and
in
most
places
when
a
city
has
surplus
properties.
It
declares
them
surplus,
they
go
on
sale
and
in
many
cases
they
have
a
real
estate
agent
or
some
other
mechanism
for
conducting
the
sale,
and
it's
all
about
price
we're
almost
always
about
price.
S
Several
years
ago,
we
discovered
or
realize
that
there
was
property
that
the
city
was
divesting
itself
of.
That
would
then
get
rezone
and
become
worth
significantly
more
money
because
of
the
rezoning
and
we
did
not,
or
the
taxpayers
did
not
see
any
of
that
money.
So
one
of
the
reasons
for
creating
the
corporation
was
to
get
taxpayers
in
on
a
share
of
that
uplift
price
that
resulted
from
the
rezoning.
S
Secondly,
we
if
we
were
to
just
sell
a
property,
there
were
only
certain
tools.
We
would
have
to
determine
what
could
be
put
on
the
property,
what
type
of
plan
etc.
So
somebody
who
bought
it
would
put
in
their
application
and
we
could
only
deal
with
it
as
planning
committee
with
the
tools
available
there.
So
one
of
the
reasons
we
created
the
corporation.
S
The
second
reason
was
that
we
could,
as
owners
of
the
property,
put
a
plan
on
the
property
or
specify
what
type
of
plan
the
property
would
have
and
what
could
be
built
there
much
more
control
than
we
had
through
the
planning
process.
Thirdly,
we
wanted
to
ensure
smaller
developers
had
opportunities
to
develop
this
former
city
land,
as
opposed
to
just
the
big
three
and
so
and
forth.
S
It
could
offer
in
secret,
and
there
are
advantages
to
that
from
the
point
of
view
of
selling
property,
but
there
are
disadvantages
from
the
point
of
view
of
trying
to
ensure
the
development
occurs
as
much
as
possibly
in
conjunction
with
the
public
right
now.
If
a,
if
a
private
sector
developer
wants
to
develop
a
property,
they
come
to
see
the
counselor
with
what
they're
planning
that
step
isn't
there.
S
If,
if
we
continue
like
this
without
compelling
the
councillor
to
be
part
of
it
and
so
I,
don't
think
this
process
is
necessarily
bad
if
we
keep
our
eyes
on
the
goals,
but
if
we
don't
ensure
that
we
have
at
least
as
much
involvement
by
the
counselor
at
the
pre
consultation
stage
as
exists
today,
then
we
have
what
a
couple
counsellors
have
have
objected
to
over
the
past
four
years.
So
I
don't
see
counsellors
who
aren't
on
the
committee
wanting
to
go
to
every
committee
meeting
or
anything
like
that
and
I.
K
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
mayor
I
think
councillor.
Charlie
was
right
in
terms
of
why
the
the
corporation
was
was
created
and
he
was
around
when
it
was
happened.
When
it
was
created,
selling
land
can
be
tough.
City
owns
a
lot
of
land,
and
sometimes
people
think
that
that
vacant
land
is
a
park
or
sometime
when
it's
not
or
they
think
it's
this
when
it's
not,
and
so
it
can
be
controversial.
K
That's
part
of
the
benefit
of
having
the
OSI
LDC.
Not
all
land
goes
to
the
OSI
LDC,
so
for
it
for
land
to
be
sold
first,
we
as
a
group
have
to
decide
that
we
don't
need
it
and
we
don't
want
it.
Then
we
have
to
decide
it's
substantial
enough
that
something
real
could
happen
there
and
there
could
be
value
up
with
so
we're
gonna,
send
it
to
ocl
DC
in
Sisson
and
instead
of
selling
it
our
our
selves.
K
There
is
lots
of
opportunity
for
the
local
councillor
to
intervene
and
either
of
those
stages.
So
if
it
is
a
political
problem
or
if
it
is
a
political
process,
there's
already
lots
of
politics
there
adding
a
third
layer
of
politics
in
the
negotiation
of
the
sale
of
the
land.
I,
don't
think,
is
a
very
good
idea.
I,
don't
know
who's
necessarily
buying
the
land
next
door
to
me
until
they
move
in
and
I'm
not
sure
that
I
should
have
as
a
role
in
that
process.
K
If
the
land
is
important
to
you,
don't
vote
for
it
to
be
sold.
If
it's
really
important
to
you
vote
for
the
city
to
do
something
with
it
turn
it
into
a
park
or
do
a
community
design
plan
or
get
money
to
build
a
fire
station
or
whatever
the
heck
it
is
you
want,
but
if
it's
really
that
important
to
you,
then
it
shouldn't
be
surplus.
K
If
you're
saying
it's
surplus,
then
really
the
market
then
should
take
over
and
if
you
don't
like
the
zoning
they're
coming
for
for
hard
with
don't
vote
for
zoning
at
planning
and
don't
vote
for
zoning
at
at
committee,
but
inserting
more
politics
into
a
into
a
process.
You've
already
pre
decided,
is
inserting
politics
into
a
piece
of
land
that
you've
already
decided,
isn't
important
enough
for
you
to
want
to
do
anything
publicly
with
doesn't
make
the
process
any
better
or
any
more
transparent.
So
I
would
encourage
everyone
to
vote
against
this.
K
P
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
and
I
totally
agree
with
a
councillor,
bleh
I
think
councillor,
bleh
and
I
have
been
on
the
OC
LDC
since
the
since
its
inception.
In
fact,
I
was
the
first
chair
and
it
was
created
under
the
busines
Corporation
wasn't
created
under
the
business
act
of
Ontario,
as
opposed
to
the
municipal
act,
for
the
very
reasons
that
it
operates.
P
It
was
set
up
for
the
reasons
as
councillor
play
said
and
to
make
money
for
this
city,
while
the
still
time
putting
the
values
in
the
councillor
sure
Ellie
spoke
to
and
and
the
having
the
opportunity
to
control
what
kind
of
development
is
going
there
make
no
mistake
about
it
after
the
decisions
going
forward
and
and
really
the
after,
the
sale
is
made
and
the
zoning
goes
forward,
etc.
That's
a
very
public
process
as
councillor
brockington
knows,
and
it
comes
to
the
to
the
planning
committee
or
Iraq
or
wherever
it
needs
to
go.
P
D
The
fundamental
differences
and
I
think
it's
already
been
referenced
by
some
of
the
other
members
is
the
fact
that
this
is
in
fact
a
private
corporation.
It
is
built
for
a
specific
purpose
for
it
to
be
arm's
length
from
council.
You
are
the
sole
shareholder,
so
once
a
year
they
come
and
you
would
get
to
make
decisions
and
receive
information
from
them,
but
for
all
of
that
they
are
not
subject
to
public
meeting
notices.
D
P
In
fact,
it
was
likely
one
of
the
very
first
transit
oriented
developments
we
did
was
was
the
long
fields
in
the
bar
Haven
area
come
in
now
that
I
come
to
think
about
it.
But
I
think
that
in
since
inception
that
we've
raised
that
Corporation
has
raised.
I
probably
am
under
guessing
it,
but
about
80
million
dollars
for
the
city
of
Ottawa.
Is
that
about
right,
Gord.
E
P
Almost
50
and
30
as
I
recall,
so
that's
where
I
came
up
with
the
80
okay
and
we
and
yet
we
still
kept
the
control,
and
yet
it
still
came
back
to
planning
committee.
So
just
because
maybe
some
and
the
other
thing
too,
is
that
the
councillor,
even
if
they
were
allowed
to
attend,
would
not
be
allowed
to
go
out
and
speak
on
it
in
their
community.
So
I
think
that
when
you
have,
the
conversation
is
when
it
comes
forward.
P
There's
a
piece
of
land
at
the
old
Wow,
whatever
Chinese
place
on
Richmond
Road,
okay
and
we're
going
to
give
it
to
them,
because
we
we
want
them
to
market
it.
For
us,
that's
the
time
when
that
councillor,
because
you're
making
decision
should
talk
to
them
before
they
get
into
the
process.
Have
the
conversation
then?
And
then
certainly
you
know
once
it
comes
back
to
planning
in
that
you
have
all
the
opportunities
but
the
guidelines
so
that
they
follow
are
ones
that
we've
set
up
good
planning
practices.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
O
Thanks
mayor
I
think
one
of
the
fundamental
issues
that
I
take
with
the
way
OC
LDC
operates
without
that
ward
councillor
input
is
that
it
is.
It
is
unfair.
There
are
a
number
of
us
as
councillors
who
have
an
inside
view
as
to
what
is
happening
in
our
ward.
If
there
is
a
piece
of
property
that
was
going
to
be
sold,
we
are
at
the
table
if
there
is
a
discussion
about
things
like
the
potential
buyers.
O
Don't
see
a
huge
issue
with
allowing
the
ward
of
the
ward
councillor
to
get
the
same
view
of
those
dealings
as
the
councillors
who
sit
on
the
committee,
obviously
subject
to
two
NDA's,
so
I
will
be
supporting
councillor
Brockton's
motion,
because
I
think
it
addresses
a
fundamental
of
unfairness
between
the
various
different
councillors
on
council.
A.
E
You,
mr.
mayor
that
just
I
want
to
cautious
people
all
my
colleagues
at
this
table
because
the
process
we
have
right
now,
it
works
well
for
city
councillors
because
we
are
taking
the
politic
out
of
the
sails.
We're
knurl
were
not
a
real
estate
agent
and
we
shouldn't
be
involved
in
this
process.
I
know
the
process
helped
me
in
the
last
term,
because
I
know
that
I
did
work,
that
there
was
a
property
was
sold
in.
My
community
and
I
was
very
happy
with
the
process.
E
I
approached
ocl,
DC
and
I
spoke
to
them
about
the
parcel
and
they
informed
me
that
they're
gonna
put
it
for
sale.
If
there
isn't
a
piece
important
for
you
in
your
community,
and
you
really
think
you
can
do
something
with
it,
you
should
maybe
approach
them
and
talk
to
them,
but
the
process
works
well
and
I,
cautious,
my
colleague
from
change
policy
politicizing
this
process.
Thank
you.
M
You
mr.
mayor
well,
I
sat
on
this
land
Development
Corporation
for
the
past
term
of
counsel
and
I
want
to
tell
you
about
the
most
uncomfortable
day
that
I
had
on
on
that
land.
Development
Corporation
and
it
was
sale
of
a
piece
of
property
to
Ana
budding
land
owner.
The
budding
land
owner
was
a
gravel
pit.
M
The
sale
of
this
particular
property
was
not
going
to
be
used
for
gravel
extraction,
but
the
net
impact,
because
the
net
impact,
because
you
have
to
have
a
buffer
from
residential
property
wise
to
actually
move
the
gravel
pit
much
closer
to
a
residential
neighborhood.
That
was
the
net
impact
and
I
felt
very
uncomfortable
with
making
that
decision.
Knowing
that
was
the
net
impact
of
it
without
the
ward
councillor,
even
knowing,
where
we're
doing
that,
there
is
no
approval
process
to
come,
because
this
was
now
going
to
instead
of
the
the
the
buffer
that
they
had.
M
That
buffer
then
could
be
used
for
gravel
extraction,
because
they're
purchasing
a
new
buffer,
much
closer
to
people's
homes
and
I
felt.
If
that
had
been
in
my
ward
as
a
member
of
council,
I
should
have
been
told
that
as
part
of
the
process,
so
that
I
could
let
my
residents
know
and
if
they
objected
to
that
this
is
city
property,
that
they
should
have
the
right
to
input
into
the
process.
But
that
was
done
without
the
knowledge
of
the
ward
councillor
or
the
community.
M
That
was
being
impacted
by
that
sale
of
the
land,
and
that
was
an
uncomfortable
day
for
me
and
that's
why
I
really
think
that
councillor
brockington
has
it
right,
where
there's
impacts
on
community
and
impacts
on
the
councillor
that
answers
for
those
impacts
that
they
should
be
made
aware
of
that,
and
that
doesn't
always
happen.
That's
why
I'm
going
to
support
councillor
Brockington
motion,
okay,.
B
P
Anyone's
interested
on
page
90,
where
it
speaks
to
the
board
composition,
one
of
the
things
that
the
corporation
has
recommended
is,
furthermore,
to
avoid
political
potential
conflicts
of
interest.
It
would
be
preferable
the
members
of
council
appointed
to
the
board
not
be
members
of
planning
committee,
nor
from
wards
that
contain
significant
parcels
of
land
to
be
handled
by
the
OC
LDC.
P
So
if
you
look
at
kitchen
Sippy,
if
you
look
at
college
ward
and
you
look
at
bar
Haven,
where
there's
been
a
lot
and
all
three
of
us
on
the
Planning
Committee-
we're
not
even
allowed
to
be
on
the
board,
I
think
that
that's
quite
restrictive.
So
if
we
pull
that
out
as
a
friendly
amendment,
I
think
that
then
there's
absolutely
room
to
support
council
Brockington,
and
then
we
allow
anybody
to
be
to
be
on
the
that
puts
their
name
forward.
P
But
we
a
corporation
still
has
the
sanctity
of
his
privacy
and
operates
under
the
business
act
and
the
person
that
the
the
councillor
who
is
of
the
area
when
they
come
to
the
table
has
to
absolutely
be
under
the
same
rule
of
privacy,
but
they
absolutely
get
to
participate.
So
that's
my
friendly
amendment,
okay,.
F
I
B
L
E
L
A
Thank
You
mr.
mayor,
so
this
was
brought
by
the
clerk
of
Ottawa
Public
Health
Board
I
I'll
present.
The
motion
basically,
is
that
until
the
new
members
until
election
committee
has
selected
you
members,
there
needs
to
be
there's
one
or
two
meetings,
so
we're
asking
to
extend
the
appointment
of
all
citizen
members
until
the
appointments
have
been
done
by
council.
Okay,.
B
The
motion
carried
thank
you
for
that.
The
next
item
is
report,
recommendations,
part
four
or
four
amendments
to
various
bylaws
policies
and
related
matters.
The
amendments
to
the
procedure
bylaw,
as
described
in
this
report
in
document
seven
pages
93
to
99
councilor
egg
lie,
has
a
motion
side
of
a
councillor
flurry
with
respect
to
release
of
committee
agendas.
Earlier
very.
O
Much
mr.
mayor,
so
as
a
committee
chair
and
I
can
think,
I
can
speak
for
all
the
committee
chairs
over
the
last
couple
of
terms.
One
of
the
most
common
concerns
we
hear
from
delegations,
community
associations,
public
stakeholder
groups-
is
they
feel
they
don't
have
enough
time
to
digest.
The
report
when
it
comes
out,
don't
have
enough
time
to
meet
and
consider
it
so
that
they
can
come
to
committee
and
and
make
a
presentation.
So
what
I
am
proposing?
It's
a
very
simple
change:
wording
wise.
O
It
changes
it
from
seven
calendar
days
to
seven
business
days.
What
that
effectively
means
is
that
the
advance
notice
for
reports
and
agendas
for
for
public
committee
meetings
will
be
nine
days
and
in
certain
cases,
if
there's
a
holiday
Monday,
for
example,
it
would
be
ten
days.
So
it
gives
just
a
little
bit
more
time
for
people
to
consider
the
reports
and
and
make
arrangements
if
they
want
to
come
down
to
the
actual
meeting
and
speak
to
it.
O
So
again,
we've
all
just
finished,
knocking
on
doors,
thousands
and
thousands
of
doors
across
the
city
and
I'm
sure
that
it
many
of
them.
You
heard
that
they
want
council
to
be
more
transparent,
more
open,
more
accessible,
I
think
this
is
a
good
step
towards
doing
that,
and
I
would
hope
that
everybody
would
support
this
motion.
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
thank
you
so
on
the
motion,
as
presented
by
councilor
egg
line
carry
councillor
brockington
on
I
just
was
explained
to
councillor
Bryant
in
the
desire
and
the
next
point.
It's
not
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
Mr.
clerk,
it
shall
not
should
so
it's
a
recommendation
because
sometimes
you'll
put
for
an
inquiry
and
if
staff
have
enough,
they
can
bring
you
an
ounce
and
answer
at
the
council
meeting,
but
there's
no
restriction.
You
could
still
bring
an
inquiry
at
the
committee
meeting
of
the
council.
B
It's
just
we're
encouraging
you
to
try
to
do
it
24
hours
in
advance,
so
staff
of
a
chance
to
respond,
and
the
issue
may
go
away
because
it's
resolved
or
it
may
not,
and
it
needs
further
study.
So
with
that
information
counselor,
are
you
okay
with
leaving
it
shall,
instead
of
should
or
should,
instead
of
shall
should?
Instead
of
shall
yeah.
L
O
Yes,
thank
you,
I
sort
of
started
this
I
think
with
my
inquiry
on
inquiries
last
term,
everybody
thought
it
was
kind
of
funny
at
the
time,
but
but
the
motivation
behind
it
was
real
and
it
continues
to
be
real
and
and
the
reason
that
I
supported
this
and
asked
for
this
to
be
included
in
the
governance
report.
Is
we
keep
track
of
the
inquiries
made?
We
keep
track
of
when
they've
been
answered.
O
One
of
the
things
we
don't
really
keep
track
of
is
the
cost
in
terms
of
real
dollars
and
resources,
and
often
staff
are
in
the
middle
of
a
meeting,
and
somebody
throws
out
an
inquiry
to
them,
and
staff
feels
I
think
that
they
need
to
say.
Yes,
we
can
do
that
and
then
we
don't
really
see
what
the
hidden
cost
of
that
is.
O
So
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
putting
forward
this
recommendation
and
that
would
encourage
all
councillors
to,
even
though
it's
should,
instead
of
shall
I'd
like
you,
if
you
can
all
lean
towards
the
shell,
because
there
is
a
real
hidden
cost
here
to
the
taxpayer,
and
many
of
these
things
can
be
fixed
through
a
phone
call
to
a
to
a
manager
of
a
department
through
an
email
exchange.
Once
we
get
into
the
formal
inquiry
piece,
there's
there's
circulations
that
have
to
be
done.
O
There's
translations
that
need
to
be
the
costs,
add
up
quickly
as
well
as
staff
time
so
I
encourage
everybody
to
please
give
some
advance
notice
to
staff
staff
can
then
come
back
to
us
as
a
group
and
say
the
interesting
question
bill
by
the
way
it's
going
to
cost
seventeen
thousand
dollars
to
answer
that
question
and
we
can
weigh
in
on
whether
that
it's
a
reasonable
way
to
spend
taxpayers
money.
So
again,
thank
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
that
mr.
mayor
and
thank
you
councillor
brockington
for
withdrawing
your
motion.
That's.
B
That's
a
good
point,
thanks
to
both
councillors
on
the
motion
carried
as
amended
item
2
is
the
amendments
to
the
delegation
of
authority.
Bylaws
described
a
report
in
document
8,
councilor,
harder
and
egg
lie.
Have
an
amendment
councilor
harder,
so
this
is
on
third
party
infrastructure
agreements,
believe
it's
technical
in
nature
to
give
staff
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
to
get
on
with
the
job.
P
To
the
further
authorities
of
general
manager-
yes,
okay,
so
I'm
sure
that
mr.
Willis
can
explain
better
than
I
can.
But
basically
we
now
have
a
situation
where,
for
for
anyone
who
has
a
lot
of
work
going
on,
it
will
mean
the
difference
between
taking
an
opportunity
of
not
having
the
road
cut
again
in
like
two
months
when
you
have
the
work
done.
So
this
is
taking
advantage
of
opportunities
which
I
would
think
will
be
cost-saving
for
sure.
P
But
taking
that
advantage
when
we
know
that
there's
a
project,
that's
already
been
approved
and
is
in
the
budget
for
a
given
year,
and
we
can
have
the
flexibility
to
have
it
undertaken.
We
already
do
that
with
the
other
side,
so
the
private
business,
where
we
have
a
project
going
on
that
they
work
with
us
and
we
have
the
the
authority
over
it
as
well.
So
perhaps
mr.
I
mean
mayor
Watson,
mr.
Willis
could
just
speak
as
this
is
mr.
Willis
could
just
comment
officer.
Q
Willits
Senate
very
very
quickly,
mr.
Merritt
IRA,
the
department
and
my
role
currently
already
has
delegated
authority
to
when
third
parties
want
us
to
do
work
for
them
within
city
construction
projects
we
to
coordinate
construction,
so
the
construction
all
happens
at
the
same
time.
Think
about
utility
companies
think
about
MTO.
Q
Think
about
Enbridge
others
like
that
where
we
can
do
it
for
them
and
provided
we
get
reimbursed,
we
just
want
the
reverse
opportunity
as
well,
so
that
when
construction
coordination
is
actually
an
opportunity
for
us,
we
could
actually
do
that
and
get
that
reimbursed
and
there
are
checks
and
balances
in
terms
of
the
procurement
requirements
on
that
in
the
motion,
so
that,
as
I
said,
would
give
it
it's
a
very
modest
amount.
Any
larger
amount
like
that
would
come
to
committee
and
council.
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Okay.
So
on
councilor
harness
motion,
amendment
carried
on
the
motion
as
amended
carried
item
three,
the
amendments,
the
procurement
bylaws
described
in
this
report
pages
105
106
carried
the
amendment
to
the
Ottawa
Fire
Services
bylaw,
is
described
in
this
report
pages
106,
107
and
update
item
five,
the
amendments
the
appointment
policy
has
described
in
this
report
and
in
document
nine
councillor
Kavanagh,
has
a
motion
seconded
by
Councillor,
lulav
and
councillor
du
das
has
given
a
friendly
amendment.
B
C
And
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues,
councillor
lilifer,
seconding
it
and
councillor
dude
asks
for
her
friendly
amendment.
It's
very
appropriate
and
I
actually
want
to
thank
the
previous
council
for
working
towards
this,
because
they
did
do
work
on
proving
looking
into
a
women's
Bureau,
and
this
is
what
is
leading
to
this,
and
so
I
want
to
give
them
that
thanks,
because
we've
got
work
to
do,
and
this
is
to
look
towards
as
you
can
read
from
it,
that
it's
the
goal
of
appointing
50%
representation
of
women
and
taking
into
account
diversity
where
possible.
C
B
And
just
for
clarification,
counselor
do
daus's
motion
includes
and
take
into
consideration
diversity
as
the
amendment
and
you're
content
with
that.
So
I
do
urge
members
of
council
to
support
this.
This
was
a
the
50-50.
A
gender
balance
was
something
that
I
made
a
commitment
to
during
the
election
campaign
and
I
think
it.
Certainly
we
get
a
lot
of
really
good
applications
from
men
and
women
across
the
city
and
I
think
this
is
timely
and
I'm
glad
we're
doing
it
on
the
first
meeting
so
on
the
motion
carried
at
update.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Next.
Is
the
item
is
amended
carried
on
item
six,
the
amendments
to
the
advisory
committees,
participation,
expense
bars
described
in
this
report
and
document
10
pages
110
and
111
carry
item
7.
The
amendments
to
the
Advisory
Committee
procedure,
bylaw
and
Code
of
Conduct
are
described
in
this
report
in
document
11
page
111,
112,
council,
Ernest
bomb
on
item
7,
Thank.
Q
You,
mr.
mayor
just
a
very
quick
technical
question
on
this
item
and
I,
it
also
applies
to
a
few
other
documents
that
we
are
passing
through
now.
One
of
the
changes
in
this
bylaw
is
changing
the
term
clerk
to
city
clerk
and
solicitor
for
the
City
of
Ottawa,
I
guess
my
two
questions
are:
is
it
deemed
that
using
the
word
clerk
in
this
viola
is
problematic,
so
is
there
a
problem,
we're
trying
to
be
resolved
and
then
I
guess?
Q
The
second
question
is:
although
we
can
not
anticipate
a
day
when
Rick
O'connor
is
not
here
with
us,
unfortunately,
I
imagine
one
day
he
will
want
to
grab
his
fishing
rod
and
so
at
that
time,
if
there
is
a
decision
to
have
the
city
clerk
in
the
city,
solicitor
be
two
different
people,
then
would
we
not
have
to
amend
these
bylaws
again
and
so?
Hence
my
first
question:
is
there
a
problem
that
we
need
to
solve
now
or
are
we
just
creating?
So
that's
essentially
that
what
the
question
is
thanks.
Mr.
D
B
J
Thanks
very
much
mr.
mayor,
some
of
this
is
just
housekeeping,
but
after
reading
reports
with
regard
to
this
committee,
it
became
clear
that
we
could
clean
our
process
up
to
ensure
complainants
also
receive
notice
if
an
order
affecting
them
has
been
appealed
and
further.
That
standing
could
be
granted
by
the
committee
to
the
original
complainant
in
front
of
the
PSL
AC
to
provide
further
context
to
the
original
complaint.
I
worked
with
staff
on
this.
J
A
Well,
I
I'm,
just
curious
as
to
the
I
like
that,
we're
bringing
in
and
clarifying
some
of
the
policy
issues
but
I'm
concerned
like,
for
example,
the
property
standards.
There's
a
very
particular
issue
where,
if
a
tenant
raises
that
same
old
exam
moves
out,
then
the
complaint
loses
so
there's
a
lot
of
property
standard
components,
property
maintenance
that
are
that
are
at
play.
I
wonder
like
we're
passing
this
amendment,
but
if
council
deems
to
review
these
policies
as
part
of
term
of
council
priority
that
that
would
not
alleviate
that
opportunity.
Is
that
correct.
B
Q
B
Danny
councilman:
are
you
had
staff
help
with
the
drafting
of
this?
So
okay,
that's
fine!
Thank
you
carried
carried
item
10,
the
I'm,
sorry
item
11,
renewal
of
the
temporary
I'm.
Sorry
10
is
amended,
carry
item
11
the
renewal
of
the
temporary
boring
bylaw,
as
described
in
this
report
and
in
document
20
very
part,
5
other
matters,
the
creation,
1,
the
creation
of
positions
of
council
liaison
for
housing
and
homelessness,
Sports,
Commissioner
and
council
liaison
for
women's
issue
to
be
considered
by
the
nominating
committee
and
City
Council
is
described
in
this
report.
B
M
You
mr.
Maryl
just
read
the
therefore
bit
resolved
part,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
language
and
recommendation
1
under
part
5
other
matters
in
2018
2020
to
governance.
Review
report
be
amended
to
change
the
name
of
the
council
liaison
for
women's
issues
to
the
new
title
of
council
liaison
for
women
and
gender
equity
and
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
the
new
position
title
of
council
liaison
for
women
and
gender
equity
be
reflected
throughout
the
2018
to
2022
governance
review
report.
M
Wherever
the
previous
title
appeared
and
let
me
just
say,
I
think
it
was
me
that
wrote
this
back
in
March
2018,
but
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that.
Since
that
time
it
has
become
clear
that
their
preferred
and
current
language
is
women
and
gender
equity
and
so
just
trying
to
reflect
that
in
the
most
up-to-date
language.
Ok,
thank.
B
M
You
mr.
mayor,
the
bit
resolve
says
that
council
appointed
special
liaison
on
housing
and
homelessness
also
be
a
member
of
the
community
and
Protective
Services
Committee,
and
the
reason
for
this
is
that
during
2014
to
2018
period,
when
there
was
a
liaison
appointed,
that
person
was
not
a
member
of
CPS
and
it
left
a
bit
of
a
disconnect.
There
was
no
reporting
relationship
to
the
committee.
M
They
were
and
I
just
think,
I
think
it's
important
that
we
signal
how
much
we
view
housing
and
homelessness
as
an
important
thing
for
this
council
to
be
safe
with
by
naming
as
special
liaison.
But
it's
also
important
that
we
have
a
reporting
structure
that
works
and
that
there's
a
link
to
the
committee
that
has
carriage
of
this
issue.
So
I
think
if
it
is
a
member
of
the
committee,
that
is
a
special
liaison,
it
will
work
best.
S
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Worship,
yeah,
I
think
this
makes
a
lot
of
sense
because,
just
fundamentally
we
are
an
elected
body
and
we're
exercising
the
elements
of
democracy,
and
if,
if
we
take
the
subject
matter
that
housing
and
homelessness
liaison
has-
and
we
I
think
we
have
to
have
that
subject
matter
ultimately
be
brought
up
and
debated
in
a
democratic,
open
forum
where
the
public
can
come
in
comment
as
opposed
to
having
a
liaison
go
off
on
his
or
her
own
and
and
come
up
with
a
direction
or
recommended
direction.
S
We
saw
in
the
last
term
that
the
committee
went
one
way
and
the
the
liaison
went
a
different
direction
in
in
their
reports
and
the
incongruity.
There
is
one
issue,
but
that
I
think
the
central
issue
is
that
it
has
to
come
back
to
the
democratically-elected
body,
debating
it
in
the
open
and
by
having
the
liaison
be
a
member
of
the
committee.
It
makes.
That
was
something
that
is
going
to
happen.
B
2019
operating
budget
in
a
corporation
and
be
incorporated
in
the
draft
2019
operating
budget
in
the
partner
at
stakeholder
initiatives,
branch,
the
committee
and
social
service
department,
along
with
any
additional
funds,
required
to
support
the
first
phase
of
this
work.
As
described
in
the
report,
the
councillor
Dean's
has
a
motion
seconded
by
Councillor
McKenney
verdeans.
Thank.
M
M
Branch,
the
community
and
social
services
department,
along
with
any
additional
funds,
required
to
support
the
first
phase
of
this
work,
as
described
in
this
report,
I
think
it's
clear
that
most
minutes,
apart
from
the
report,
the
way
it's
written
municipalities
are
doing
exactly
these
things.
As
the
first
steps
and
they're
outlined
there.
I
just
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
we
too
will
be
doing
that
one.
A
A
It's
it's
been
delayed
and
has
dragged
on,
obviously
will
carry
through
in
this
term
I'm
just
prescribing
one
component
of
that
review,
which
is
the
parking
authority
so
that
staff
come
back
to
Transportation
Committee
by
q2
of
2019.
So
it's
just
prescribes
when
we
want
that
section
of
that
report,
that's
all
I'm
asking
it
did
carry
through
committee
in
terms
of
priority.
I
was
just
never
never
achieved
last
term.
Okay,.
O
E
O
H
The
second
component
of
that
is
the
governance
structure,
which
will
include
the
consideration
of
a
parking
Authority,
and
the
third
component
of
that
is
the
new
parking
bike
parking
strategy
that
we
want
to
bring
forward.
It
is
a
complex
program
and
we
feel
the
timelines
are
required
to
bring
all
components
to
council
so
that
they
can
have
a
fulsome
view
of
the
strategy.
If
the
motion
passes,
we'd
have
to
regroup
with
staff.
My
sense
is
that
some
of
that
would
fall
off,
probably
the
bike
parking
strategy
and
likely
other
components
of
the
strategy.
B
L
Thank
you,
your
worship,
just
a
question
for
the
city,
clerk
and
solicitor
on
page
163
164.
It
just
talks
about
the
pending
city,
about
a
ward
boundary
review.
Just
some
concerns
in
my
community
there's
some
wording
here
that
I
just
want
clarify.
This
is
part
of
the
forthcoming
report.
The
word
boundary
report
staff
will
also
review
matters
relating
to
word
boundary.
Reviews
that
arose
recently
in
the
City
of
Toronto
I
certainly
applaud
the
attempts
to
look
at
best
practices.
Lessons
learned
to
make
sure
our
processes
is
smooth,
but
the
concerns
are
about.
L
D
Mr.
mayor,
the
reference
to
bill
five
in
there
is
to
assure
that
members,
as
we
go
forward
with
the
warbound
review,
will
appreciate
that
constitutionally
speaking,
the
province
of
Ontario
is
supreme
with
regards
to
all
municipalities.
So,
as
Toronto
experienced,
they
went
through
I
believe
a
three
year
or
boundary
review
with
external
consultants,
multiple
sessions
of
consultation,
I
believe
it
was
fairly
expensive
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
province
of
Ontario
passed
legislation
to
provide
the
number
that
they
want
and,
quite
frankly,
the
boundaries.
D
P
P
L
P
In
order
for
the
change
to
be
made,
and
since
I
represent
60,000
plus
people
with
a
forecast
of
over
70,000
by
the
end
of
this
term,
it's
absolutely
important
that
we
get
this
done.
So
I
look
forward
to
the
process
and
I'm
hoping
are
you
going
to
be
put
in,
giving
us
a
draft
or
starting
it
in
the
first
quarter
of
2019?
And
are
you
going
to
put
together
a
sponsor?
Each
group.
D
F
D
K
B
Okay,
so
we
have
councillor
flurries
motion
well,
I
think,
there's
support
for
it,
so
carried
dissent
by
councillors,
tyranny
and
egg
lie
and
then
the
I'm
sure
Ali
and
the
other
items
on
boundary
review
and
so
on
has
received.
You
see,
item
number
7
report,
recommendations,
the
city,
clerk
and
solicitor
be
delegated
the
authority
to
implement
changes
to
all
related
processes,
procedures,
policies,
terms
of
reference
and
to
bring
forward
bylaws
is
required
to
implement
councils
decisions
further
to
the
approval
of
this
report
and
to
reflect
the
current
organizational
alignment
Callister.
Also
in
theory,
Thank.
H
You,
mr.
mayor
just
a
question
to
the
clerk,
as
you
prepared
for
the
terminal
from
trees
or
committee
term
of
reference,
can
we
can
we
have
some
input
at
some
point
where
we
can
add
concern
about
natural
disaster
and
have
some
focus
on
emergency
management
as
a
part
of
term
of
reference
for
a
committee,
s.
D
B
You
appreciate
that
Thank
You
counselor
on
item
7
carried
next
is
motion
to
strike
the
nominating
committee.
I
have
a
motion
move
by
myself
saying
by
Councillor
Tierney,
whereas
pursuant
to
subsection,
94
2
of
the
procedure
by
law,
the
first
meeting
of
the
nominating
committee
has
been
scheduled
for
9:30
a.m.
B
Tuesday
December
11th,
with
its
report
rising
for
consideration
at
the
City
Council
meeting
on
Wednesday
December
12th
2018,
therefore
be
it
resolved.
The
council
approved
the
appointment
of
eight
members
of
Council
to
serve
on
the
nominating
committee,
in
addition
to
the
mayor's
chair,
to
make
recommendations
to
Council
on
appointments
of
members
of
council
to
standing
committees
subcommittees
boards
and
the
selection
panels,
and
other
appointments
is
settled
in
the
governance
report.
B
Be
it
further
resolved
that
the
members
of
the
nominating
committee
be
councilors,
Moffitt,
Elgin,
Terry,
bleh,
dude
acids,
harder,
Kavanaugh
and
myself
on
the
report
carried
so
on.
The
first
of
all
think
I
think
a
big
thanks
to
our
staff.
This
takes
a
lot
of
time.
I
know
a
number
of
members
of
the
clerk's
office
work
burning
the
midnight
oil
and
I'd
like
to
thank
mr.
Clerk
and
his
staff
for
a
job.
Well
done.
Bravo,
congratulations!
B
Today,
I
call
Inc
staff
are
tabling
the
report
on
Ontario's
cannabis
legislation,
cannabis
retail
stores
and
responses
to
council
direction
of
August
29
2018,
our
general
manager
of
emergency
and
Protective
Services
Anthony
Demonte
is
here
to
provide
us
with
a
high-level
overview
of
the
report
to
help
inform
our
discussion
on
December
13th
at
our
special
committee
of
the
whole.
As
you
know,
the
various
levels
of
government
have
been
preparing
for
the
legalization
of
recreational
cannabis
simultaneously.
Much
of
the
responsibilities
for
the
management
and
regulation
of
recreational
cannabis
rests
with
the
federal
provincial
governments.
B
However,
at
issue
for
us
is
in
this
debate
is
whether
or
not
to
allow
private
retail
cannabis
stores.
In
Ottawa
and
what
specifically,
we
need
to
keep
discussing
with
upper
levels
of
government
a
lot
of
work,
public
consultation
and
analysis
has
happened
since
August
29th
to
make
sure
we
have
the
information
we
need
to
make
this
important
decision.
B
All
of
this
is
summarized
in
the
report
that
has
just
been
handed
to
you
and
the
council
will
be
considering
on
December
13th.
It
includes
information
on
the
regulatory
framework
for
cannabis,
retail
stores
and
summary
of
staffs
analysis
and
staffs
recommendation
I'd
like
to
remind
council
and
members
of
the
public
that
public
delegations
can
be
heard
in
committee
of
the
whole
on
December
13th
here
in
the
council
chamber
today
is
only
for
high-level
questions.
B
This
is
important
for
my
colleagues
to
understand
we're
simply
tabling,
and
only
questions
that
are
very
much
a
high
level
based
on
process
or
procedure
will
be
allowed
we'll
debate
and
ask
your
detailed
questions
on
to
the
staff
on
December,
13th
or
I'd
also
encourage
members
of
council
before
that
to
meet
one-on-one
with.
Perhaps
the
chief
or
our
legal
staff
or
Public
Health
and
I
would
remind
members
that
the
police
chief
chief
borne
low
and
dr.
B
etches,
our
medical
officer
health,
will
be
in
attendance,
December
13th
to
respond
to
any
questions
with
respect
to
the
professional
input
that
they
have
provided
in
this
report
table
today.
So
following
the
presentation
today,
Council
will
table
the
report
for
consideration
on
the
13th
and
now
over
to
you,
mr.
Demonte
Thank.
C
I
Be
before
council
for
consideration
of
the
special
meeting
on
Thursday,
December,
13th
and
public
key
delegations
as
you've
indicated
mayor,
we'll
also
have
the
opportunity
to
provide
comments
to
you
on
the
report
at
that
time.
This
report
specifically
addresses
the
province
of
Ontario's
private
retail
regime
for
recreational
cannabis,
as
well
as
councils
direction.
The
staff
received
this
past
August.
The
decision
before
council
is
whether
to
opt
out
from
having
private
retail
cannabis
stores
in
the
city
of
Ottawa
prior
to
the
provinces,
January
22nd
deadline.
I
In
the
report
you
will
see
the
staff
are
recommending
to
allow
private
cannabis
retail
stores
to
operate
in
Ottawa,
beginning
April,
1st
2019.
You
will
find
the
information
supporting
staff
recommendation,
including
an
analysis
of
the
implications
of
opting
out
which
include
crime,
related
consequences,
economic
development
opportunities,
the
proximity
proximity
rather
of
other
jurisdictions,
public
health
considerations
and
access
to
additional
provincial
funding.
I
The
report
also
responds
to
council's
direction
the
staff
to
provide
information
on
key
provisions
of
both
the
federal
and
provincial
government
and
framework,
as
well
as
the
work
that
city
staff
has
completed,
to
prepare
the
cannabis
for
cannabis
legalization
both
externally.
In
terms
of
outreach,
we've
done
with
a
MoU
the
government
of
Ontario,
the
city
of
Toronto
and
with
our
partners
in
Ottawa,
Public
Health
and
the
Ottawa
Police
Service
and
internally,
to
respond
to
the
requests
from
the
public
to
ensure
that
all
city
departments
and
municipal
partners
were
ready
to
respond.
I
I
I
For
short,
the
retail
model
also
includes
an
unlimited
number
of
private
retail
stores
and
provision
where
municipalities
could
choose
to
opt
out
from
the
retail
cannabis
regime.
From
that
announcement,
came
councils
direction
to
staff,
to
review
the
new
regime
and
explore
options
and
consequences
of
opting
out
the
province
of
Ontario's
cannabis
legislation
was
enacted,
October
17th
the
same
day
that
recreational
cannabis
became
legal
in
Canada
and
the
regulations
to
support
the
private
retail
regime
was
later
passed
on.
November
14th.
I
Both
the
integrated
cannabis
legalization
steering
committee
and
the
operational
team,
which
includes
Ottawa
police
and
Ottawa
Public
Health,
were
established
to
first
ensure
the
readiness
to
respond
to
the
cannabis
related
calls
for
service.
Secondly,
to
develop
a
comprehensive
landing
page
on
Ottawa
CA
to
help
inform
residents
third
to
ensure
that
all
3-1-1
calls
could
be
triaged
and
handled
effectively
and
finally,
to
review
and
update
the
city's
internal
policies
related
to
cannabis.
I
Additionally,
the
marijuana
has
supported
this
ongoing
work
by
writing
to
the
Minister
of
Finance,
the
Attorney
General
of
Ontario
and
the
minister
of
municipal
Affairs
and
housing
to
specifically
discuss
municipal
powers
regarding
the
cannabis
retail
act.
The
province
of
Ontario
has
created
a
cannabis
retail
model
that
will
establish
a
private
retail
stores.
As
of
April
1st
in
municipalities
that
allow
them,
as
noted
earlier,
municipalities
have,
until
January
22nd
to
decide
whether
they
wish
to
opt
out
of
this
model.
I
Under
the
prevent
the
provinces,
regulatory
regime
and,
as
earlier
stated
by
our
city
solicitor
again,
the
provincial
constitutional
powers,
there
is
no
legal
authority
for
municipalities
to
regulate
the
stores
and
municipalities
are
prohibited
from
licensing
or
putting
specific
zoning
in
place
for
cannabis,
retail
stores.
As
a
result,
the
AG
CEO
will
decide
who
can
operate
cannabis,
retail
stores
and
where
they
will
be
located.
Provincial
legislation
in
the
addition
to
the
AGCO
standards
will
dictate
how
these
stores
operate.
I
The
legislation
provides
that
the
AG
CEO
must
reject
applications
that
are
not
in
the
public
interest,
which
has
been
defined
under
the
regulation
as
meaning
protecting
public
health
and
safety,
protecting
youth
and
restricting
access
to
cannabis
and
preventing
illicit
activities
in
relation
to
cannabis.
Further
the
agcl
receives
an
application,
and
municipalities
will
have
15
days
to
provide
comment.
I
Municipalities
in
Ontario
have
a
one-time
option
to
opt
out
of
this
provincially
regulated
retail
model.
If
a
municipality
chooses
to
opt
out,
it
can
only
reverse
this
decision
once
and
it
must
provide
notification
to
the
agcl
registra
by
January
22nd
2019.
If
a
municipality
decides
not
to
opt
out,
they
have
by
default
chosen
to
allow
private
stores
to
operate
and
there's
no
reversing
this
decision.
The
Ontario
Ministry
of
Finance
has
confirmed
a
40
million
dollar
envelope
for
municipalities
during
the
first
two
years
to
support
enforcement
and
other
implementation
related
costs.
I
The
funding
will
be
this
distributed
as
follows:
the
province
will
distribute
the
first
payment
of
50
million
dollars,
which
will
be
paid
to
all
municipalities
on
a
per
household
basis.
This
amounts
for
Ottawa
to
just
over
1
million
dollars.
The
province
will
then
distribute
a
second
payment
of
15
million
dollars
after
January
22nd
to
all
municipalities
on
a
per
household
basis
that
have
opted
in
again.
This
would
amount
to
at
least
1
million
dollars
for
the
city
of
Ottawa,
but
may
be
higher,
depending
on
the
proportion
of
municipalities
that
decide
to
opt
out
across
Ontario.
I
If
a
municipality
decides
to
opt
out
in
the
second
round,
the
payment
will
only
be
$5,000.
The
province
is
also
setting
aside
10
million
dollars
of
municipal
funding
to
address
costs
that
are
unforeseen
and
the
priority
will
be
given
to
those
municipalities
that
have
not
opted
out.
In
addition,
the
province
of
Ontario
portion
of
the
revenue
from
recreational
cannabis
if
it
exceeds
100
million
dollars
in
the
first
two
years
of
legalization,
the
province
will
provide
50%
of
the
surplus
to
be
divided
amongst
the
municipalities
that
have
opted
in.
I
Therefore,
based
on
staff's
recommendation
to
allow
private
retail
of
cannabis
stores,
it
is
estimated
the
city
Vata
will
receive
over
2
million
dollars
at
a
minimum,
as
well
as
access
to
other
potential
provincial
funding
to
offset
costs.
As
a
result
and
directed
by
city
staff,
we
undertook
analysis
to
collect
public
input
on
cannabis.
Retail
stores
to
methods
of
collecting
input
were
chosen.
Ekos
Research
Associates
were
retained
to
conduct
public
opinion
research
by
randomized
telephone
surveys
to
provide
citywide
measurement
of
public
opinion
on
cannabis,
retail
stores,
the
eCos
public
opinion.
I
Research
revealed
that
48
percent
supported
having
cannabis
retail
stores
and
43
percent
were
opposed.
However,
these
numbers
are
more
polarized,
depending
on
whether
the
respondents
supported
the
legalization
of
recreational
cannabis.
Among
the
supporters
of
legalized
cannabis,
78
percent
were
in
favor,
whereas
only
10
percent
were
in
faith.
That
did
not
that
oppose
legalization,
also
worthy
of
note
88%
of
those
who
will
purchase
would
prefer
to
buy
in
a
store
as
tipo
as
opposed
to
online.
The
second
method
of
collecting
input
was
through
the
online
public
survey
at
Ottawa
CA.
I
The
online
survey
received
more
than
twenty
three
thousand
twenty
three
thousand
eight
hundred
responses
and
close
to
sixteen
thousand
of
those
were
from
the
Ottawa
area.
The
online
survey
favored
having
cannabis
retail
stores
in
Ottawa,
as
seventy
eight
percent
were
in
favor,
and
they
have
a
87
percent
of
those
who
purchase
would
prefer
to
buy
from
his
store
these
public
import
opportunities
are
further
detailed
in
the
report.
I
In
conclusion,
staff
is
recommending
that
the
City
of
Ottawa
council
agree
to
have
private
retail
stores
in
Ottawa,
based
on
the
five
following
key
areas.
First,
the
anticipated
negative
consequences
of
allowing
the
illicit
cannabis
market
to
flourish
and
controlling
access
to
minors.
If
there
is
no
legal
retail
option,
organized
crime
and
illegal
sellers
will
continue
to
fill
that
void.
Secondly,
the
potential
economic
development
opportunities
in
proximity
to
other
jurisdictions
and
impacts
having
private
retail
cannabis
stores
in
Ottawa.
I
Third,
the
public
health
advantages
of
having
private
retail
cannabis
stores,
namely
those
related
to
the
quality
of
the
product
and
the
education
and
support
that
can
be
provided
at
the
point
of
sale
in
a
retail
store
model.
Fourth,
the
public
input
received
in
favor
of
having
cannabis
retail
stores
and,
in
particular,
input
provided
by
cannabis,
consumers
in
Ottawa,
who
would
prefer
to
shop
in
retail
stores
and,
finally,
the
financial
advantages
to
help
offset
legalization
and
implementation
costs
by
having
access
to
additional
provincial
funding.
I
Excuse
me
from
allowing
cannabis
retail
stores
in
summary,
staff
have
provided
a
great
deal
of
information,
and
you
receive
the
report
of
over
150
pages
this
morning
to
consider
over
the
next
week
we
will
be
reaching
out
to
members
of
council
over
the
course
of
the
next
few
days
to
meet
different,
fired
and
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
with
respect
to
the
contents.
As
the
mayor
indicated,
our
colleagues,
the
chief
of
police
and
the
medical
officer
of
health
and
their
staff
will
also
be
available.
I
G
B
Behalf
of
council,
mr.
de
Mandy's
worked
very
hard
on
this
report
and
he
has
also
been
very
much
a
key
member
of
the
the
task
force
at
the
province-wide
level
working
with
amo.
So
he's
he's
very
well
versed
on
the
issues
just
to
remind
members.
These
have
to
be
at
a
I
hate
using
the
word
high-level
in
this
debate,
but
a
broad
perspective
on
procedure.
So
please
don't
get
into
the
weeds.
It's
just
been
tabled.
The
whole
purpose
of
tabling
is
bring
it
back
and
come
back
with
your
questions.
A
A
And
then
my
second
question
and
it's
the
last
one
here.
It
relates
to
your
presenting
an
OP
in
OP
out
but
you're,
not
presenting
what
I
believe
to
be
a
third
option,
and
my
question
is
at
a
high
level
to
the
clerk
really
relates
to
mr.
Clerk,
under
the
guidelines
of
the
province
relating
to
this
matter.
What
happens
if
council
were
to
choose
not
to
vote
on
opping
in
or
opping
out.
K
K
Would
be
helpful
if
before
now
and
are
the
individual
briefings
that
mr.
Daponte
offered
or
the
debate
on
the
19th
or
whatever
it
is,
could
in
the
common
drive
you
put
relevant
supporting
documentation
that
might
be
available
from
a
mole
or
AGCO
or
whomever
else
may
have
weighed
in
on
these
issues
over
the
last
number
of
months.
While
it's
been
in
the
public
debate
very.
I
H
I
H
I
I
Your
second
part
of
the
question
is
with
regards
to
the
illegal
dispensaries
that
is
clearly
a
police
matter.
The
the
new
cannabis
Act
does
give
police
services
significantly
more
powers
than
they
had
previously
to
shut
those
illegal
dispensaries
down,
including
more
stringent
fines
and
other
other
elements
as
well.
Now,
the
owner
of
a
building
that
allows
an
illegal
operation
can
also
be
charged
and
there's
significant
fines.
I
H
I
The
challenge
with
that
is
because
of
the
different
that
we've
all
gone
through
municipal
elections
because
of
different
timing,
when
different
councils
are
beginning
to
look
at
this
varies
across
the
province.
I,
don't
believe,
we'll
have
a
clear
understanding
how
many
municipalities
are
using,
which
option,
unfortunately,
by
that
then,
but
will
will
attempt
to
get
whatever
list
we
have
will
bring.
But
we
see
it
will
not
be
exhaustive
and
I.
Don't
know
how
helpful
will
be
in
for
you
and
your
debate
that
will
bring
you
what
we
have.
Okay.
O
I
O
And
the
second
question
I
think
the
mural
stopped
me
if
I'm
going
too
far,
but
you
spoke
about
public
health
is
going
to
be
at
the
meeting,
and
you
also
spoke
in
your
presentation
that
one
of
the
advantages
is
public
health
will
be
involved.
Is
there
a
formal
commitment
from
the
province?
The
public
health
will
be
working
with
the
independent
shop
owners.
Do
we
have?
Is
that
in
place
or
not
in
place,
and
will
we
have
more
information
about
that
at
the
special
meeting.
I
Mayor
I,
don't
want
to
get
into
too
much
detail
v.
We
can
discuss
it
more
in
detail
at
the
meeting,
but
in
essence
the
province
is
responsible
on
the
on-site.
They
are
completely
responsible
and
they
have
assumed
the
responsibility
to
do
public
health
messaging
when
products
are
being
sold
in
those
retail
stores.
That
completely
belongs
to
them
public
health.
The
medical
officer
of
Health
will
be
present
because
they
were
extremely
important
in
the
preparation
of
this
report,
with
their
professional
expertise,
as
well
as
the
police
service
and
the
chief
helped
us
enormously.
I
O
E
I
From
a
policy
perspective
and
decision-making
for
elected
officials,
I
think
the
the
fundamentals
are
there,
so
the
the
concept
of
law
is
there
from
a
provincial
government,
the
only
element,
that's
still
in
development
and
I
and
I
alluded
into
in
my
presentation.
The
AG
CEO
is
still
working
on
their
components.
I
So
if
you
apply
to
run
be
an
operator,
some
of
the
details
of
what
their
expectations
of
you
for
the
stores
and
the
details
of
the
installation
inside
the
stores
other
than
what's
provided
already
in
federal
and
provincial
law-
that's
still
being
worked
on,
but
in
essence,
I
think,
both
from
a
federal
perspective
and
we'll
get
more
in
detail
at
the
presentation.
The
meeting
and
the
provincial
perspective.
You
have
pretty
much
everything.
That's
that's
available
to
you
for
a
policy
decision.
Thank
you.
B
G
N
G
Estimated
cost
of
regular
rise
well,
mr.
cutie,
this
is
a
kind
of
detail
that
we'll
be
asking
about
then
I
understand
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that
the
people
I
can
ask
that
question
of
will
be
here
on
the
13th,
your
worship.
We
will
ensure
that
we
are
in
a
position
to
answer
the
questions
by
the
councilor.
L
Thank
you,
your
worship.
At
the
beginning,
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
debate
on
the
Salvation
Army
multi-use
Center,
the
city
clerk,
read
a
statement
about
what
items
of
discussion
were
in
scope
and
what
items
of
discussion
were
at
a
scope.
I
think
it
would
be
useful,
as
we
start
to
think
about,
and
we
get
into
this
document
and
think
about
the
types
of
discussion,
points
and
debate
that
we
want
that
the
city
clerk
remind
members
of
council
what
is
in
scope
for
debate
and
discussion.
L
Well,
there
are
certain
things
that
maybe
we
want
to
get
into
that.
We
just
aren't
authorized
or
permitted
to
do
so
so
I'm
just
suggesting
it
would
be
useful
to
me
at
least
if
the
city
clerk
could
send
a
brief
one
pager
about
what
items
are
in
scope
for
us
to
debate
and
discuss
next
week
and
what
authority
we
don't
have
it
as
under
provincial
legislation.
B
Mr.
clerk
point,
it's
also
I
think
maybe
what
I
can
do
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
because
we'll
have
public
delegations
after
the
presentation
is
to
remind
members
the
public
as
well.
You
know
the
debate
over
whether
it's
legalized
or
not
is
over.
We
don't
have
any
authority
on
that.
We've
got
to
move
forward
yeah.
Thank
you.
Councillor,
Minard,
please.
J
It's
very
much
mr.
mayor
shouldn't
around
the
actual
locations
of
these
I've
been
receiving
inquiries
quite
a
quite
frequently
for
four
areas.
In
my
ward,
where
people
would
like
to
to
open
a
dispensary
or
what
have
you?
Is
there
any
chance
that
we'd
get
to
report
on
that
day?
Next
week?
That
will
say
here's
the
inquires
we've
had
so
far,
I'm
sure
you've
had
many
of
them.
I
Mayor
as
indicated
that
responsibility
is
purely
with
the
AGCO,
those
requests
go
to
them.
They
will
make
all
those
decisions
where
and
we'll
have
that
debate.
We've
we've
proposed
something
in
one
of
the
recommendations
that
gives
my
colleague,
steve
willis
and
the
ward
councillor
an
opportunity
to
at
least
let
known
our
position
again.
The
authority
is
not
with
us,
they
can
receiver
and
and
take
our
advice
or
or
move
on,
but
we'll
get
more
into
that
debate,
and
we
can
answer
that
more
clearly
on
the
13th
I.
J
Know
I
understand
that
it's
with
the
AGCO
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
list
of
some
sort
that
they've
already
compiled
of
inquires,
they've
received
aware
that
might
be
in
our
Ward's
is
there's
gonna
be
several
that
open
up
if
this
passes
and
so
a
neat
list
that
they
may
have
in
advance
and
be
helpful
to
know
if
they
had
that
or
received
inquiries.
I
think
it'd
be
good
for
council.
I
Mayor
the
discussion
we've
had
with
the
AG
cos
until
the
end
of
until
the
date
they're
just
receiving
and
compiling
they're,
not
they're,
not
processing
any
of
those
requests
until
you've
made
your
decision
as
whether
you're
opting
in
or
out
and
then
maybe
then
we
will
be
able
to
receive,
or
we
will
through
a
process
will
be
established
with
the
city,
so
unfortunately,
don't
believe
we'll
have
any
inkling
of
that
for
the
13k.
That's
helpful.
Thank.
C
You
very
much
it's
already
been
pointed
out
that
we
have
very
little
control
over
the
zoning
that
the
province
says
has
stated
what
they
want
and
it's
very
difficult
to
go
from
there,
but
one
of
the
other
questions
I
have
is
in
regards
to
private
property
and
bylaws.
This
has
already
been
coming
up
in
the
election.
In
terms
of
you
know,
you
know
my
neighbor's
smoking.
It's
bothering
me
that
kind
of
stuff.
Where
does
that
fit
in
to
what
we
can
control
yeah.
B
I
Mayor
just
on
that,
it
for
certainly
emergency
protective
services,
and
we
last
year
had
a
big
debate,
a
policy
debate
on
on
uber.
This
is
a
significant
we've.
Never
seen
that
many
responses
a
so
it
very
much
is
a
large
response
to
a
public
to
a
public
issue.
So
there
was
obviously
a
lot
of
interest.
It's
the
largest
we've
seen.
F
B
Else
on
process,
so
let
me
just
read
out
that
it's
meeting
of
December
5th
City
Council
receiving
table
to
report
on
Ontario
cannabis
legislation,
cannabis
retail
stores
in
response
to
council
direction
on
August
29th
2018
for
consideration
of
the
December
13th
special
meeting
of
council
called
for
that
purpose
and
which
will
include
receiving
public
delegations
so
received,
and
just
the
clerk
has
asked
me
to
clarify
the
composition
that
are
meeting
committee
is
a
total
of
8,
including
me
not
in
addition
to
me
motion
to
adopt
reports,
councillors,
bleh
and
Nussbaum.
Please.
K
B
B
D
B
A
A
Lane
2
council
approved
maintance
quality
standards
for
the
remainder
of
the
current
budget
year
and
whereas
the
current
city
or
whereas
the
city
treasurer,
has
advised
that
the
tax
rate
stabilization
reserve
is
potentially
funding
source
for
the
continued
maintenance
of
the
MacArthur
Avenue
bike
lane
for
the
remainder
of
the
current
year,
therefore
be
resolved.
That
council
approved
funding
for
the
text
from
the
tax
stabilisation
reserve
fund
to
maintain
the
MacArthur
Avenue
bike
lanes
to
council,
approved
maintenance
quality
standards
for
the
remainder
of
the
current
budget.