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Ottawa City Council and City of Ottawa Media Availability — 12 April, 2023
A
B
B
Over
the
course
of
the
last
week
we
were
confronted
with
two
major
challenges:
the
ice
storm
and
some
issues
with
the
light
rail
system
and
I
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
thank
the
staff
at
Public,
Works,
Emergency,
Management,
Hydro,
Ottawa
and
OC
Transpo,
and
all
the
other
staff
in
the
corporation,
whose
heroic
efforts
helped
our
community
through
this
difficult
time
and
whose
difficult
work
continues
as
we
follow
up
and
clean
up
on
on
all
of
those
issues.
So
thank
you
to
staff.
B
I
also
want
to
take
a
moment
to
recognize
that
this
is
International
Day
of
pink
a
day
against
bullying,
discrimination,
homophobia,
transphobia
and
trans
misogyny
and
today
is
also
April
12th,
which
is
the
anniversary
of
the
day
in
1980
when
Terry
Fox
started
the
marathon
of
hope,
so
I'll
mention
that
as
well
as
we
begin
today.
So
for
those
who
are
able,
please
rise
for
a
moment
of
personal
reflection,.
B
As
we
begin
our
meeting
today
and
on
behalf
of
Ottawa
city
council,
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
Ottawa
is
built
on
unseated
anishinaabe,
Algonquin
territory.
The
peoples
of
the
anishinaabe
Algonquin
Nation,
have
lived
on
this
territory
for
Millennia
their
culture
and
presence
have
nurtured
and
continue
to
nurture
this
land.
The
city
of
Ottawa
honors,
the
peoples
and
land
of
the
anishinaabe
Algonquin
nation
and
honors
all
First
Nations,
Inuit
and
metis
peoples
and
their
valuable
past
and
present
contributions
to
this
land.
C
Counselor
luloff
sent
counselor
dudas
president
counselor
Hill
present
counselor
Curry
here,
councilor
Kelly
president
councilor
Gower
counselor
Kavanaugh,
here
counselor
Johnson,
here
counselor
Divine,
here
counselor
Bradley,
here
counselor
Tierney,
councilor
King,
here
Council
truster
here
answer:
leaper
counselor
Brockington
here
councilman
here,
counselor
Carr,
here
councilor
kits
here:
councilor
derus,
yeah,
councilor
Brown,
here
councilor,
deresh,
Okay,
so
counselor,
Hubley,
counselor
Lowe,
here
mayor
Sutcliffe.
Here.
B
D
B
All
right
is
that
carriage,
okay,
let's
move
to
item
10,
which
is
from
the
city
clerk
10.1,
is
appointments
to
the
built
Heritage
committee
and
you
see
the
appointments
to
the
build
Heritage
committee
and
we're
going
to
move
through
a
series
of
appointments
here
to
various
boards
and
committees
on
the
built
Heritage
committee.
As
that
carriage
on
the
item
10.2,
which
is
appointments
to
the
Board
of
Health,
is
that
carried
item?
10.3
appointments
to
the
committee
of
adjustment?
B
Item
10.4
appointments
to
the
Property
Standards
and
license
appeals
committees,
I
carried
okay,
we'll
move
now
to
item
11,
Agricultural
and
Rural
Affairs
committee,
and
we
have
11.1
the
right
of
way.
Patio
bylaw
update
and
new
Urban
Design
guidelines
for
commercial
patios
is
that
carried
on
the
committee's
recommendation.
B
E
E
Then,
whereas
the
report
titled
acs-20023
RCF,
gen,
001
sale
on
naming
rights
to
the
Canada
rack
complex
indicates
the
preferred
name
as
Tony
Graham
Automotive
Group
Recreation
Complex
Kanata,
the,
whereas
Tony
Graham
group
also
markets
a
business
as
Tony
Graham
and
whereas
Tony
Graham
Automotive
Group,
has
requested
to
amend
the
proposed
naming
rights
from
the
Kanata
rec
center
to
Tony
Graham
recreational
complex
Canada,
therefore
be
it
resolved.
The
recommendation.
E
One
of
the
report
be
amended
from
quotes,
approved
the
naming
rights
proposal
from
Tony
Graham
Automotive
Group
to
rename
the
Kanata
Rec
complex,
the
Tony
Graham
Automotive
Group
recreational
complex
Canada
and
approve
the
naming
rights
proposal
from
Tony
Graham
Automotive
Group
to
rename
the
Kanata
Rec
complex.
The
Tony
Graham
recreational
complex
Kanata
and
Mr
Mayor
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
that
the
Graham
family
is
here
today
as
well.
For
this
piece
and
on
behalf
of
my
community
I,
certainly
appreciate
what
the
the
family
has
offered
to
do
here.
E
It
benefits
my
ward
as
well
as
across
the
city
because
I
thanks
to
Dan
chanye's
team,
they
worked
out
where
there
will
be
money
going
towards
youth
programming
across
the
city
from
the
sale
of
this
naming
right.
So
I
just
like
to
acknowledge
the
family
and
and
acknowledge
staff's
effort
in
putting
this
here
and
I
hope
everybody
can
support
it.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
thank.
B
B
Okay
item
13
the
environment
and
climate
change
committee
item
13.1
is
the
bylaw
exemption
for
tree
cutting
near
the
tawin
area,
we'll
hold
that
I
know.
There's
a
motion
on
that
that
we
will
we
will
discuss
item
13.2
is
Wastewater
energy
transfer
pilot
project
on
the
committee's
recommendation
is
that
carriage.
B
Item
13.3
financial
statements
for
in-house
solid
waste
collection,
external
audit
results
is
that
received
except
okay
item
13.4
electric
vehicle
parking
meter
stations
on
the
committee's
recommendations
is
that
carriage
item
14
is
the
finance
and
Corporate
Services
committee
14.1?
Is
the
comprehensive
Legal
Services
report
for
the
period
July
1st
to
December
31st?
Is
that
received
item
14.2?
Is
the
disposition
of
2022
tax
and
rate
supported
operating
Surplus
deficit
on
the
committee's
recommendations?
Is
that
carried
item?
14.3
is
the
2023
tax
policy
and
other
Revenue
matters
on
the
committee's
recommendations?
B
All
right
item
14.4
is
the
application
from
the
Ottawa
airport,
which
we
will
hold
for
further
discussion
item.
14.5
is
a
status
update
and
amendments
to
the
Better
Homes
Ottawa
Loan
program
on
the
committee's
recommendations
is
that
carriage
item
15
is
the
light
rail
subcommittee,
15.1
city
managers,
delegated
authority
with
respect
to
stage
one
and
stage
two
light
rail
is
that
received.
B
Item
16
is
planning
and
housing
committee
16.1
is
the
zoning
bylaw
Amendment
for
262
Armstrong
on
the
committee's
recommendation
is
that
carriage
item
17
is
also
planning
and
housing
committee.
17.1
is
the
zoning
bylaw
Amendment
for
366
Winona
Avenue
on
the
committee's
recommendation
is
that
carriage
item
17.2
is
949
North,
River,
Road
and
I
believe
we
have
a
technical
Amendment
here,
councilor
Leeper.
Thank
you
mayor.
F
Yeah
we
have
a
technical
Amendment
on
this,
whereas
the
with
respect
to
report
ACS,
a
technical
amendment
is
required
to
correct
an
error
on
page
five
of
the
staff
report
and
whereas
the
technical
amendment
has
no
impact
on
the
staff
recommendation,
nor
on
the
details
of
recommended
zoning
on
document.
2
of
the
staff
report,
therefore
be
it
resolved
that,
with
respect
to
the
report,
city
council
amend
the
staff
report
by
substituting
on
page
five
of
the
report.
F
Within
the
paragraph
titled
planning
rationale,
official
plan,
the
words
Heights
up
to
Nine
Stories
would
be
permissible
with
Heights.
Up
to
six
stories
would
be
permissible
and
be
further
resolved
that,
pursuant
to
subsets
from
3417
to
the
planning
act,
no
further
notice
be
given
and
that's
seconded
by
counselor
King.
B
Thank
you
counselor
leaper.
So
is
that
motion
carried
and
then
the
item
itself
is
that
carried
item?
18
is
the
transportation
committee's
report.
18.1
is
the
2022
electric
Kick
Scooter
pilot
project
pilot
report
for
year.
Three
on
the
committee's
recommendation
is
that
carriage
item
18.2
is
the
Strategic
Road
Safety
Action
Plan
annual
report?
B
B
G
You
mayor,
yes,
I,
did
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
acknowledge
the
revised
name.
I
think
is
a
better
name
and
I
appreciate
the
work
that
occurred
between
committee
and
Council
this
morning
and
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion
before
us.
My
question
is
actually
to
the
general
manager.
There
were
a
number
of
questions
at
committee
about
how
the
monies
realized
from
this
agreement
would
be
dispersed.
G
Some
is
going
towards
capital
projects
in
the
actual
Rec
Center
itself,
but
there
was
a
discussion
about
identifying
youth
programming
across
the
city
and
I've
received
a
number
of
inquiries
from
residents,
because
you
did
name
a
center
in
my
ward
I'm,
not
specifically
asking
about
my
community
center.
Rather
what
the
plan
is
to
to
diversify
the
funds
across
the
city?
How
do
you
make
those
decisions
and
how
will
that
be
communicated
to
council.
H
Mr
Mayor,
as
part
of
negotiating
this
agreement,
we
have
agreed
to
take
a
portion
of
the
funds
that
will
be
generated
annually
to
support
programming.
One
of
the
areas
of
interest
that
were
identified
were
youth
programming,
and
so
there
is
a
provision
in
there
to
provide
youth,
Fitness
memberships
at
17
facilities
across
the
city
where
the
city
has
has
Fitness
rooms,
and
so
this
program
will
offer
and
we
will
publicize
make
both
in
facilities
online
and
through
whatever
means
other
means.
H
H
H
Mr
Mayor,
to
be
clear,
it
will
be
at
all
17
locations.
The
and
I
believe
I
mentioned
this
at
the
committee.
The
funding
that
we
we'll
receive
from
Tony
Graham
will
offset
the
current
level
of
Revenue
that
we
receive
for
summer
memberships
in
this
category,
but
it
does
not
limit
participation
in
any
way.
There
is
really
no
incremental
cost
of
significance
to
the
city
and
offering
this.
Since
these
are
not
instructional
programs.
These
are
drop-in
participatory.
H
B
B
J
Yes,
I
do
okay,
it's
going
to
be
on
the
screen
as
well.
Okay,
it's
going
to
take
a
little
while
to
read,
whereas
in
February
2023,
the
city
of
Ottawa
received
numerous
complaints
from
the
public
regarding
the
cutting
and
removal
of
trees
on
lands
in
the
area
known
as
Taiwan
and
which
were
specifically
described
as
ptlt
16.
Con
7
of
Gloucester
ptlt
17,
con
7
of
Gloucester
PT
LT
18
cons,
7
of
Gloucester
ptlt
19.,
con
7
of
Gloucester
ptlt20
con
seven
of
Gloucester
as
in
NS
185933.
J
The
bylaw
was
enacted
by
city
council
to
protect
trees
in
the
city
of
Ottawa,
including
trees
on
private
property,
greater
than
one
hectare
and
identified
on
schedules.
G
2-0
of
the
bylaw
and
whereas
the
subject
lands
are
greater
than
one
hectare
in
size
and
fall
within
the
lens
depicted
in
schedule.
J
The
board
under
the
farming
and
food
production
protection
act
1998
the
ACT
to
assist
in
the
determination
of
what
constitutes
a
normal
Farm
practice
under
the
fact
and
the
interplay
of
such
practices
with
Municipal
bylaws
and
whereas
a
determination
by
the
board
May
assist
the
city
and
the
public
in
assessing
what
constitute
a
normal
Farm
practice
in
relation
to
Municipal
tree
protection.
Bylaws
generally,
and
may
assist
in
providing
clarity
specifically
as
to
whether
the
recent
acts
of
the
subject
lands
constitute
a
normal
Farm
practice
under
the
act
and
or
under
the
bylaw.
J
And
whereas
staff
have
been
directed
to
investigate
and
report
back
on.
Potential
changes
to
the
exemption
82
7
of
the
bylaw
to
required
landowners
to
obtain
a
formal
exemption
with
evidence
provided
and
communicate
with
neighbors
the
ward
counselor
City
staff
prior
to
tree
removals,
including
where
a
permit
is
not
required
by
the
Bala,
where
the
activity
is
sent
from
the
provisions
of
the
bylaw.
J
Removal
activity
is
considered
a
normal
Farm
practice
and
an
assessment
of
exemptions
for
normal
Farm
practices
and
related
Implement
implementation
processes
in
other
tree
bylaws
in
Ontario,
and
be
further
resolved
that
the
general
manager
of
planning,
real
estate
and
economic
development
department
report
to
the
environment
and
climate
change
committee
and
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee
in
Q3
2023.
As
to
the
outcome
of
the
status
investigation
and
any
Associated
recommendations
to
the
tree.
Protection
by
law.
2020
340.,
I
realized
that
was
very
long
and
very
20.
J
It's
very
important
and
I've
heard
from
Just
Foods,
who
are
actual
Farmers,
and
this
is
a
bit
of
an
insult
to
actual
Farmers,
because
they
work
very
hard
to
have
that
balance
of
Farmland
versus
our
tree,
canopy
and-
and
that
concerns
me
and
they
they
don't
want
this
to
be
considered
to
be
normal
Farm
practices.
It
harms
all
Farmers
that
are
basically
tarred
with
the
same
brush.
These
actions
were
in
bad
faith
and
it's
it
was
a
risk
they
took,
but
arbola,
let's
face
it,
had
a
hole
in
it.
J
We
need
to
work
with
staff
and
counsel
towards
a
vision
that
we
share
for
the
city,
not
someone
else's
vision,
who
continue
to
look
for
loopholes.
That
is
not
the
way
we
should
be
doing
things.
Many
farmers
in
rural
Ottawa
are
happy
to
Stuart
woodlots
hedgerows,
wetlands
and
with
a
minimum
annual
payment
that
acknowledged
the
huge
benefits
that
they
provide
to
the
city
and
its
residents
and
I'm
sure
we
can
do
that
throughout
the
city.
So
we
have
some
work
to
do.
Thank
you.
K
But
my
question
to
probably
Don
asking
him:
what
is
the
whole?
This
motion
is
gonna,
do
and
how
you'll
be
able
to
consult,
and
this
is
going
to
stay
within
our
city
staff,
that
working
on
internally
and
do
you
have
the
time
to
do
that
and
what's
the
resources
you
need
to
do
to
do
us
while
we
are
dealing
with
so
many
files
through
build
23
and
so
many
other
workload
and
I
think
I.
Remember
correctly.
K
Last
last
agriculture,
referee
committee,
you
came
to
us,
you
need
an
extension
time
on
adding
and
implementing
more
policies,
and
this
is
another
workload
we're
giving
you
can
you
please
a
little
bit
clarify
and
tell
us
for
Rural
counselors,
especially
like?
How
are
you
going
to
do
that
work
and
what
this
is
entail?
K
L
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
really
wasting
our
resources
on
and
asking
another
body
to
govern
us,
because
I
think
we're
capable
at
the
city
of
Idaho.
We
have
enough
committees
and
I
think
we
have
a
very
the
diligent
rural
Council
that
we
know
what
is
the
right
practice
or
not,
but
Mr
Mayor,
I'm,
gonna
I
have
no
problem
supporting
the
motion
because
we're
all
after
all,
speaking
with
the
councilors
governor
and
Council
of
men
are-
and
we
are,
we
are
in
the
studio
forever.
K
M
M
The
one
thing
that
I
am
concerned
about
Mr,
Mayor
and
I
did
go
on
at
length
that
committee,
so
I'll
keep
my
comments
short
here,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
message
is
clear:
that
the
city
of
Ottawa
is
not
coming
after
rural
landowners
looking
to
restrict
the
rights
that
they
have
as
Property
Owners.
One
thing
that
I
I
think
discounts
needs
to
remember
is
that
we
are
an
agricultural
City.
M
80
percent
of
the
city
of
Ottawa
resides
in
one
of
the
four
rural
warts
and
tree
clearing
for
Farm
related
practice
is
a
normal
farming
practice
and
it
happens
everywhere
in
the
rural
area.
I'm
not
going
to
speak
specifically
to
the
subject,
lands
at
question
because
I
think
that's
been
resolved
and
we
have
already
have
a
staff
report
and
memo
on
that.
My
concern,
though
Mr
Mayor
is
Mission
creep
for
the
tree.
M
Bylaw
I
want
to
make
sure
that
our
rural
landowners,
particularly
farmers,
are
protected
back
in
2017
when
the
tree
by
law
was
brought
in
and,
as
my
comments
reflect
at
the
environment
committee,
Mr
Mayor,
we
lost
hundreds,
if
not
thousands,
of
Acres,
of
trees
in
rural
Ottawa,
because
landowners
were
concerned
that
they
would
lose
the
rights
on
their
properties
and
so
to
protect
that
value.
So
they
could
continue
to
farm
in
the
future.
L
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Mr
Mayor,
certainly
I,
think
those
of
us
were
around
recall
those
discussions
when
the
tree
by
law
came
into
effect
and
it
does
not
currently
apply
to
the
rural
area
and
there's
no
intention
at
the
staff
level
at
this
time
to
apply
the
the
bylaw
to
the
rural
area.
The
motion
is
also
worded
carefully
in
that
the
the
farming
and
food
production
act,
which
is
you
know,
really
the
guiding
principle
that
we
have
to
abide
by
and
informs
many
of
our
bylaws
has
to
be
kept
in
mind.
M
Perfect,
thank
you
very
much
and
you
know
Mr
Mayor,
just
to
wrap
up
my
comments.
I
do
appreciate
the
intent
of
the
motion
and
I
as
Council
Drews
has
indicated.
I
have
no
issue
with
supporting
the
motion,
because
more
information
is
always
better.
What
I
do
want
to
ensure
Mr
Mayor
is
that
rural
Ottawa
is
protected,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you
will
find
no
better
Steward
of
the
land
than
a
landowner
or
a
farmer.
M
The
value
of
land
is
not
only
what's
on
top
of
it,
but
what
is
underneath
it,
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
we're
not
punishing
landowners.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
encouraging
agricultural
production
at
a
time
that
groceries
are
becoming
more
expensive
for
families.
We
want
to
do
everything
we
can
to
encourage
local
food
production,
so
Mr
Mayor.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
certainly
to
our
colleagues
who
are
considering
this
motion
and
to
the
emotional
and
secondary
for
amending
it
to
ensure
that
this
does
come
back
before
a
rack.
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor.
N
Thank
you,
so
I
was
very
intrigued
when
I
I
read
the
the
committee
report
and
the
the
nod
to
the
to
the
Tribunal
and
when
you
look
at
the
website
of
the
tribunal
and
you
look
at
its
mandate,
its
core
job
is
to
protect
the
farmer
from
from
complaints
from
the
neighbors,
essentially
on
their
operations
and
the
intent
there.
Obviously
right
across
Ontario
is
to
ensure
that
we
have
food
security,
that
we
protect
our
Farms,
that
we
have
a
viable
agriculture
industry.
N
So
this
is
a
tribunal,
I
heard
staff,
say
they're,
going
to
check
with
them,
I
guess
for
guidance,
I,
guess:
I
I,
don't
understand
that
I
mean
it.
This
is
a
tribunal
that
you
would
file
a
complaint
and
this
would
be
I.
Think
litigated.
If
you
look
at
all
the
cases
that
are
there
most
of
the
cases
are
the
neighbors
complaining
about
the
operations
of
the
farm.
N
O
P
Two
other
reasons
why
the
that
tribunal
is
presumably
not
the
appropriate
forum
for
this
particular
matter.
As
the
counselors
indicated,
it's
normally
for
Farmers
to
go
to
that
tribunal
to
deal
with
issues
where
the
bylaw
is
restrictive
and
the
exemption
that
the
motion
and
the
direction
speak
to
is
going
to
be
reviewed.
P
The
other
issue
is
the
board's
decision
on
these
matters
are
not
determinative
on
the
facts
of
this
particular
case.
They
may
be
persuasive,
but
it
won't
be
determinative.
And
thirdly,
the
timing
of
a
decision
of
the
board
would
likely
be
at
least
a
year
out,
and
the
issues
that
staff
are
dealing
with
at
the
planning
level
simply
would
be
addressed
before
that
period
of
time.
N
Thank
you
and
I
appreciate
the
analysis
and
again
I
have
some
some
difficulty
with
this
I.
Don't
think
this
is
the
form
I,
don't
think
the
cases
line
up
consistently
with
what
we're
looking
to
achieve
here
appreciate,
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
this
file,
but
if
we're
going
to
go
to
a
tribunal,
I
think
it
needs
to
be
the
right,
the
right
Avenue
it
doesn't
sound
like
in
this
case.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you.
Ameri
just
want
to
comment
that
I've
appreciated
the
the
comments
from
my
my
colleagues
today.
That's
helping
me
better
understand
this
issue
and
some
of
the
issues
that
their
residents
face
and
how
this
motion
may
or
may
not
impact
them.
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
this
correctly.
We
are.
L
Thank
you
for
the
question
Mr
Mayor
to
your
question,
counselor
the
we
received
Direction
last
year
to
bring
forward
amendments
to
the
tree
bylaw
in
terms
of
the
diameter
of
trees
that
are
subject
to
the
bylaw
outside
of
the
inner
urban
area.
So
that
is
the
change.
The
only
change
that
is
currently
planned
for
for
this
year.
So
that
is
the
the
scope
of
that
changes.
Thank.
G
It's
my
understanding,
for
example,
that
Federal
lands,
maybe
even
provincial
lands,
don't
need
any
type
of
permission
or
requirements
that
if
you
want
to
clear-cut
on
Federal
Land
within
the
city
of
Ottawa
boundary,
you
don't
need
permission.
You
don't
need
to
talk
to
local
counselors.
You
don't
need
to
talk
to
local
community
and
so
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
next
time
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
agricultural
purposes.
So
do
Staff
feel
that
this
would
be
the
more
appropriate
way
to
go
with
respect
to
the
tree
bylaw.
L
Mr
mirror
thanks
for
the
question
I.
Think
staff
would
recommend
that
allow
us
to
investigate
this
report
back
and
at
that
time,
if
there's
a,
if
there's
a
need
for
a
broader
review
of
the
tree
bylaw,
including
other
exemptions,
that
we
we
look
at
it
at
that
time,
and
you
know
we
take
direction
from
from
Council
on
priorities
and
what
would
need
to
move
but
I.
Think
at
this
point
the
recommendation
would
be
allow
us
to.
You
know,
do
the
work
on
this
piece
and
then
we'll
report
back.
G
Fair
enough,
okay
and
I
understand
that,
with
the
a
bylaw
work
plan
that
every
member
of
council
is
is
invited
to
give
input
to
which
the
committee
will
ultimately
approve
later
this
year,
that
this
could
be
something
that
members
of
council
could
give
direction
on.
But
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out,
because,
as
I'm
reviewing
both
this
motion
today
and
and
the
direction
that
councilor
Menard
gave
that
environment
Kennedy
I
was
thinking.
Okay,
this
is
the
Environmental
piece.
What
are
the
other
potential
ways
that
clear-cutting
could
happen
that
we
want
to
mitigate
going
forward?
Q
That's
something
I
would
like
to
see,
but
on
the
very
top
of
my
platform
was
you
know,
having
a
strong
voice
for
Rural
communities,
protecting
firearms
and
and
Farmers
rights,
and
and
making
it
easier
to
to
run
a
fire
and
maintain
your
farm
even
expand
your
your
farmable
land
I.
Don't
have
an
issue
with
that,
but
I
do
share
the
concerns
of
many
amongst
the
public
and
and
some
of
my
Council
colleagues.
Among
about
how
the
particular
clear-cut
that
spawned
this
conversation
was
was
handled
and
explained
to
to
the
people
of
Ottawa.
Q
Q
So
I'm
I'm,
looking
forward
to
being
part
of
that
conversation
and
I,
am
appreciative
that
councilor
Kavanaugh's
moved
a
motion
to
provide
an
Avenue
for
that,
but
I
I
do
wonder
and
and
based
on
Council
duroche
concerns
and
the
concerns
that
were
raised
through
legal.
Would
the
Mover
consider
an
amendment
to
the
motion
to
reflect
those
concerns?
Perhaps
there's
a
different
way
to
just
to
look
to
explore
this
as
a
council.
J
Q
R
Great,
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
and
I
want
to
thank
councilor,
Drews
and
Iraq
I.
Actually,
I
I
grew
up.
My
grandfather
was
a
farmer,
so
I
cleaned
the
Stalls
quite
a
bit
and
I
have
a
wee
bit
of
knowledge
about
it.
From
that
perspective,
that
being
said,
I
did
have
one
question.
We
spent
several
hours
11
members
of
the
committee
talking
about
this,
and
there
was
discussion
about
signing
a
non-disclosure
agreement
to
see
who's
actually
going
to
operate.
The
firm
did
anyone
take
you
up
on
that
Mr
O'connor.
P
L
The
memo
indicated-
and
we
we
consulted
with
legal
and
Mr
O'connor
on
this,
but
we
provided
the
opportunity
for
counselors
to
come
to
my
office
to
view
the
documentation
that
was
subject
to
commercial
con.
You
know,
confidentiality
and
one
counselor
has
taken
advantage
and
I
believe
four
or
five
are
planning
to
come,
hopefully
after
Council,
if
it
ends
at
a
good
time.
S
This
is
just
a
couple
of
facts:
I
mean
I,
dug
I,
dug
into
this
a
little
bit
after
after
committee
as
well,
and
and
reached
out
to
the
landowners
to
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
the
history
of
this
piece
of
property.
It
was
indeed
farmed
for
for
agriculture
and
the
woods
that
were
cut
down
were
planted.
It
was
a
mono
cultural,
Tree
Farm.
So
it's
not
like
this
was
you
know
a
clear-cut
piece
of
pristine
Bush
that
had
been
you
know
that
had
grown.
S
Naturally,
this
was
a
tree
farm
that
was
cut
so
I
think
that
returning
a
piece
of
land
that
was
used
as
agriculture
to
an
agricultural
purpose.
It's
zoned
as
such
is
probably
a
good
farming
practice
when
we're
in
the
middle
of
a
food
crisis,
groceries
cost
an
outrageous
amount,
having
Farms
close
to
home
I
think
is
a
good
thing,
but
I'm
not
certain
that
this
needs
to
be
referred
anywhere,
that
this
matter
needs
to
be
referred.
We've
heard
from
staff
that
it
didn't
break
any
bylaws.
S
T
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I
was
unfortunately
unable
to
attend
environment
committee
when
this
was
discussed,
but
I
did
follow
it
along
and
you
know,
I
do
I
do
have
some
big
feelings
about
what
we're
discussing
today.
As
many
of
you
know,
prior
to
the
ward
boundary
changes,
these
lands
were
located
in
Ward
19
and
they
now
are
located
in
Ward
20.,
and
it's
it's
really
for
me.
The
lack
of
communication
with
the
surrounding
community
and
counselors
is
what
I
took
issue
with
here
in.
T
In
my
view,
it
was
unacceptable
and
unfair
to
the
residents
of
Carlsbad
Springs.
They
are
stakeholders
in
this
project
as
well
and
deserve
to
be
informed
when
this
kind
of
significant
activity
is
happening
in
their
backyards
and
as
tawin
moves
forward.
That
communication
is
gonna
need
to
be
it's.
It's
absolutely
essential.
T
T
Then
I
want
to
thank
councilor
Brown
for
his
comments,
because
I,
don't
think
I
could
have
said
them
better
myself,
but
there
is
an
exemption
for
agricultural
purposes
for
this
reason
and
I'm
glad
to
have
that
Clarity
from
staff
that
we
aren't
looking
to
change
that,
because
we
do
need
to
encourage
local
food
production,
we
need
to
support
and
celebrate
our
agricultural
community
and
we
need
to
appreciate
the
value
of
farmed
land.
It's
a
different
kind
of
value
than
treed
land,
but
it's
a
value
all
the
same.
So
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor.
U
Gower,
yes,
thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
councilor
Curry
for
being
the
secondary
on
this.
Where
is
the
Ottawa
International
Airport
Community
Improvement
plan
ywcip
supports
the
development
of
the
Ottawa
airport
lands
and
provides
both
direct
and
indirect
economic
benefits
to
the
city
of
Ottawa
and
to
the
local
business
community,
and
where
is
the
Yow?
U
U
I
hope
the
motion
does
speak
for
itself.
This
is
a
significant
change
from
the
original
recommendations
that
were
before
us
at
the
finance
committee
last
week.
By
way
of
comparison,
the
grant
to
the
hotel
would
decrease
from
13
million
to
3.7
million,
and
the
next
net
tax
collected
by
the
city
would
increase
from
4.3
million
to
13.7
million
over
25
years.
U
G
The
ward
counselors
Deans
in
Brockington
meet
with
the
city's
nominees
to
the
board
of
the
airport
authority
to
express
council's
concern
with
proceeding
with
tree
cutting
before
further
negotiations
on
the
future
of
the
Red.
Pine
Forest
are
completed,
end
quote
and
whereas
the
meeting
request
was
never
fulfilled,
whereas
MP
David
McGinty
has
suggested
on
multiple
occasions
for
the
airport
to
meet
with
the
abutting
community
to
share
their
vision
and
strategic
Outlook
to
facilitate
greater
understanding
and
awareness
and
to
promote
open
and
constructive
Communications.
B
V
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
and
let
me
start
by
saying,
first
of
all,
what
I'm
about
to
say,
I
know
you
know
and
I
know
you
support
Economic
Development.
So
let
me
start
with
that.
So
airports,
Drive
Economic,
Development,
Economic
Development,
then
drives
City
revenues
and
an
increase
in
steady
revenues
then
drives
our
ability
to
pay
for
things
like
affordable
housing,
infrastructure
supports
programs
and
services,
all
the
things
we
want
to
pay
for.
V
So
that's
that's
the
flow,
so
we
all
I
think
understand
that
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
support
on
this
Council
for
the
health
of
our
airport.
I've
heard
that
over
and
over
again
I
think
this
file
comes
down
to
a
difference
between
those
who
support
a
sure
thing.
Take
the
deal
right
now
and
those
who
believe
that
if
we
hold
out
we'll
get
an
even
better
deal
because
the
hotel
will
be
built
regardless
of
the
tax
incentive,
we
know
door
number
one
door
number
two
is
unknown
and
it's
a
hope.
V
V
That
could
have
been
good
for
the
city
as
a
city
council
for
Canada,
North
I
see
it
as
my
job
to
make
sure
everyone
in
this
city
understands
why
both
are
Canada
Tech
Park
and
our
International
Airport
were
designated
and
approved
by
the
province.
In
our
official
plan
as
special
economic
districts,
the
Canada
North
Tech
park
has
over
540
tech
companies
bringing
in
13
billion
of
Canada's
GDP
every
year
its
companies
employ
tens
of
thousands
of
Ottawa
residents
just
in
case
some
are
not
aware.
90
of
the
business
in
the
tech
Park
is
international.
V
V
V
The
federal
government
just
announced
funding
to
support
a
biomedical
company,
evic
Diagnostics
and
then
renovus
to
Kickstart
Canada's
semiconductor
industry
right
in
our
own
special
economic
District.
Geopolitical
challenges
being
solved
right
in
our
City's
Tech
Park.
Our
Tech
Park
is
the
second
largest
tech
Park
in
North
America.
The
largest
is
Silicon
Valley,
but
let
me
show
you
the
difference
in
our
airports
and
so
the
diagram.
Sorry,
that's
going
up,
we'll
show
you
a
picture
of
our
airport
and
how
many
international
flights
we
have.
V
Which
is
completely
different,
and
that
is
the
largest
tech
Park
in
North
America,
and
ours
is
the
second
largest
and
the
difference
is
shocking.
We
have
a
problem
here.
Houston
the
economic
prosperity
of
our
Tech
Park
relies
on
International
connectivity
in
order
to
get
more
international
flights.
Our
Airport
Authority
has
to
buy
the
international
flights.
Their
revenue
stream
to
buy
those
flights
will
come
from
the
least
Revenue
they
would
get
from
the
new
interminal
hotel.
V
The
tech
Park
companies
need
the
international
flights,
our
Economic
Development
staff,
the
Board
of
Trade,
invest
Ottawa
Ottawa
tourism,
the
airport
Authority
and
the
mayor's
table
on
economic
development.
All
advocated
for
this
special
Community
Improvement
program
because
of
its
connection
to
Economic
Development.
The
details
of
our
CIP
listed
a
hotel
as
a
project
that
would
bring
in
Revenue
to
the
airport
so
that
it
can
buy
the
flights
and
create
a
hub
that
would
benefit
tourism,
the
city,
its
residents,
with
all
of
the
increase
in
Revenue
to
the
city.
V
However,
the
city
will
also
benefit
because
of
the
increase
in
passenger
volume
2.
for
every
passenger
that
gets
off
a
flight
and
then
on
another
flight,
because
we
will
then
be
a
hub.
The
city
will
get
two
dollars
and
sixteen
cents
per
passenger.
On
top
of
that,
the
higher
passenger
volume
will
increase
the
money
to
the
city
through
the
pro
property
in
lieu
of
taxes,
the
pilt
that
the
airport
pays
to
the
city
and
the
city
will
get
a
significant
increase
in
property
tax.
V
Now
that
the
vacant
land,
which
is
taxed
very
low,
will
be
designated
as
a
commercial
property
and
taxed
much
higher.
Some
of
you
are
willing
to
risk
losing
an
amazing
deal
for
the
city
I
and
the
companies
and
employees
of
the
tech
Park
invest
Ottawa
the
Ottawa
Board
of
Trade
Ottawa
tourism,
the
airport
Authority
and
our
very
own
city
of
Ottawa
Economic
Development
staff
who
have
worked
for
years
on
this
deal.
Think
this
is
an
amazing
opportunity
to
support
and
increase
Economic
Development
right
in
front
of
us
right
now
and
I
am
with
them.
I
This
is
the
issue
of
why
this
Council
has
wisely
said
that
sips
need
to
be
reviewed.
The
criteria
needs
to
be
reviewed,
as
is
the
Brownfield
criteria
because
of
the
exact
situation
that
we're
in
today,
I
I
wish
that
that
review
would
come
back
sooner
rather
than
later,
because
I
think
we're
going
to
get
into
these
pitch
battles
regularly.
I
With
these
things
coming
to
council
and
I
mean
my
motion
spoke
to
that
previously
about
how
we
should
get
this
review
done
and
then
come
back
with
an
agreement
of
counsel
how
we
move
forward
with
this
type
of
incentive
program.
I.
Think
if
international
flights
are
the
issue,
then
let's
work
on
international
flights.
I
A
tax
break
to
the
hotel
is
not
going
to
do
that
and
you
know
how
I
know
that,
because
three
other
hotels
are
currently
leased
by
the
airport,
they
bring
Economic
Development
and
they
did
it
without
a
municipal
taxpayer
Grant.
They
are
not
happy
about
this
and
they've
sent
a
letter
opposing
this,
and,
quite
frankly,
residents
of
Ottawa
aren't
happy
about
this
either.
Our
public
doesn't
want
this,
it's
clear
when
you
listen
to
them
in
public
forums.
They
are
not
happy
about
this,
so
I
think
the
city
could
not
really
have
done
a
better
job.
I
So
I
think
this
Motion
makes
the
case
that
we
were
making
a
committee
that
this
was
not
needed
in
the
first
place
that
we
were
going
to
spend
10
million
more
of
taxpayer
dollars
than
we
are
here
today,
and
this
last
minute
change
I
think
makes
that
case.
I
do
have
a
question
to
staff
mayor
and
it's
it's
when
when
is
the
Sip
review
and
the
Brownfield
review
supposed
to
come
back,
I
assume
to
fedco
at
this
point
or
to
a
finance
committee.
L
I
Okay,
that's
appreciated
I
guess
so.
I
just
suggest,
bearing
closing
that
that
counselors
vote
against
the
Gower
motion
that
that
be
voted
down
and
vote
against
the
report
as
a
whole,
which
has
come
here
in
that
66
tie
at
committee
that
this
taxpayer
Grant
is,
is
not
warranted
in
this
case,
and
we
can
better
spend
that
money
in
this
city
on
other
priorities
that
will
increase
economic
development
that
will
benefit
our
residents
greater
than
what
we're
seeing
here
today.
I
B
B
C
S
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
Man,
you
know
I
could
give
you
all
the
economic
reasons
why
we
should
support
this
like
the
city
is
going
to
be
up
now.
With
this
motion,
13
million
dollars
over
the
lifetime
of
the
agreement,
City
will
accrue
most
the
same
amount
in
fees
well
with
the
previous
amount,
in
in
fees
alone.
S
Immediately,
the
airport
will
use
this
rent
to
buy
airline
traffic
that
will
dramatically
increase
the
amount
of
tax
that
we
collect
in
perpetuity,
but
you've
heard
those
arguments
from
from
counselor
Curry
very
well
stated
and
you'll
hear
those
arguments
from
from
more
of
our
colleagues
I'm
sure
today,
but
instead
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
focus
on
you
know
the
the
disingenuous
and
entirely
fallacious
arguments
being
used.
Maybe
today,
I
can
help.
Some
of
you
find
your
inner
Chomsky
as
I
provide
a
very
cursory
crash
course
in
intellectual
self-defense
using
this
item.
S
S
Man
argument
a
false
dilemma
and
uses
the
no
true
Scotsman
fallacy
to
whether
intentional
or
not
vilify
any
member
who
supports
a
CIP
because,
of
course,
those
who
don't
support
taxpayers.
You
know
couldn't
possibly
support
the
CIP.
What
tribe
I
support
this
application,
because
I
support
taxpayers
don't
fall
victim
to
another
fallacy
appeal
to
emotion,
wishful
thinking,
which
is
arguing
for
a
course
of
action
by
The
Listener
in
according
to
what
might
be
pleasing
to
imagine,
rather
than
according
to
evidence
or
reason
this
hotel
is
likely
not
going
to
be
built
anyway.
S
Inflation
and
supply
chain
pressures
make
this
project
too
expensive.
These
are
facts:
don't
fall
victim
to
appeal
to
wealth
or
ad
hominem.
This
is
not
a
luxury
hotel.
In
fact,
the
per
night
stay
at
the
alt
is
below
average
for
all
hotels
in
Ottawa,
coming
in
at
about
180
a
night
which
is
under
the
215
average,
as
listed
on
kayak,
don't
make
it
about
who's
applying,
but
the
strength
of
the
application
which,
by
the
way,
meets
every
single
criteria
that
this
Council
passed
seven
months
ago.
S
Is
this
a
hard
application
to
support?
Only
if
you
underpin
your
arguments
with
intellectually
lazy
and
disingenuous
fallacy,
because
this
opposition
is
built
on
a
massive
House
of
Cards
we're
going
to
cut
off
our
nose,
despite
our
face
today,
leaving
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
on
the
table
in
future
taxes
paid
by
businesses.
But
what
good
is
a
nose
anyway?
S
If
we
can't
even
see
beyond
it,
if
you
want
to
keep
residential
property
taxes
low,
set
the
conditions
to
see
business
flourish
in
our
city,
they
pay
taxes
too,
and
the
larger
share
the
larger
the
share
that
they're
paying
the
more
affordable
living
here
is
going
to
be.
So
if
we
keep
laying
out
the
only
tools
that
we
can
legally
use,
if
we
keep
rolling
out
the
red
carpet
only
to
pull
it
out
from
underneath
applicants
that
meet
every
single
criteria,
we
send
a
signal
that
Ottawa
is
not
a
good
place
to
do
business.
S
L
L
Y
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
Mayor
I
do
find
it
very
unfortunate.
The
way
that
things
have
rolled
out
on
this
application.
We
as
a
council
had
an
opportunity
to
pause
the
CIP
program
early
on
on
our
mandate,
like
we
did
on
the
brownfields
program,
but
we
didn't
instead,
there's
been
a
review
of
the
program
ongoing
by
staff,
but
we
did
not
give
direction
to
staff
deposit.
So
while
we
talk
about
respect
for
taxpayers
dollars,
we
should
also
be
looking
at
our
Behavior.
Y
We
let
staff
continue
to
work
on
this
program,
promote
this
program
and
receive
and
review
applications.
We
let
the
applicant
go
through
the
entire
process
of
the
application,
this
for
a
CIP
program
that
was
approved
by
Council
only
in
July
of
last
year,
of
which
10
of
you
here
today
approved
Hotel
was
one
of
the
21
categories
that
was
approved.
The
only
exemption
was
made
for
the
type
of
business
was
a
payday
loan
company.
Y
Today's
vote
was
supposed
to
be
about
the
application
itself
and
we
have
definitely
heard
comments
from
my
colleagues
on
the
application.
But
many
of
the
comments
I've
heard
around
the
table
have
to
do
with
the
CIP
program.
The
people
don't
like
these
type
of
financing
models,
that
the
program
should
not
exist,
which
are
valid
opinions,
but
those
comments
should
have
been
contemplated
during
a
program
review
stage
and
not
in
the
context
of
reviewing
the
application.
Y
So,
while
I
not
will
not
be
supporting
the
application
today,
although
I
do
believe,
we
have
a
role
to
play
in
Economic,
Development
I
desperately
do
want
to
see
this
hotel
developed.
It
would
be
an
excellent
addition
to
the
airport
I
want
to
improved
service,
I
flew
to
Montreal
for
my
last
vacation
and
will
be
flying
out
of
Montreal
for
my
next.
Y
One
I
do,
however,
agree
wholeheartedly
that,
at
a
time
where
one
out
of
seven
residents
in
ottawa's
experiencing
food
insecurity
and
where
affordable
housing
is
in
Desperate
needs,
it
isn't
timely
to
be
giving
a
tax
break
to
a
successful
Canadian
company
and
I
do
have
listened
to
the
concerns
of
the
taxpayers
and
I
will
not
be
supporting
the
application,
but
I
do
think.
We
have
a
few
questions
to
answer
as
a
council.
Y
In
short
order
before
we
continue
down
a
path
of
council
members
undertaking
program
to
view
an
evaluation
when
we
are
supposed
to
be
reviewing
individual
applications
questions,
we
should
be
asking
ourselves
and
in
short
order
will
we
continue
to
receive
applications
for
the
CIP
programs,
or
will
we
pause
the
programs?
While
we
wait
for
the
review,
how
will
we
support
the
designation
of
the
airport
as
a
special
economic
District
in
the
official
plan
that
was
recently
approved
by
the
provincial
government?
If
we
don't
have
this
program?
Y
What
other
levers
do
we
have
to
support
economic
development
in
our
Special,
Districts
and
I'd,
just
like
to
add
before
I
do
vote
know
that
I
am
apologetic
to
the
way
that
this
has
rolled
out,
but
I
would
and
I.
Also
just
have
one
question
with
respect
to
the
Brockington
motion:
I'm
wondering
how
local
councilors
are
defined
with
respect
to
the
airport,
the
airport's
designated
in
the
official
plan
as
a
special
district,
but
there's
a
motion
which
part
of
it
is
only
the
local
councils
will
be
involved
in
this
Ming.
Y
D
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
Some
have
asked
why
there's
a
sip
program
at
the
airport
in
the
first
place
and
what
business
is
it
of
the
cities
to
help
the
airport
if
it's
struggling,
I
think
this
is
at
the
Crux
of
the
conversation
that
we're
having
here
today.
It's
a
very
important
question
about
this:
grant.
D
The
Ottawa
Airport
Authority
does
not
pay
property
taxes
in
the
same
way
that
residents
do
they
pay
it
in
pills
payments
in
lieu
of
taxes
to
the
city,
while
several
factors
go
into
this,
quite
simply
for
every
passenger
that
goes
through
the
airport.
The
city
is
paid
one
dollar
and
eight
cents
as
a
tax
pre-pandemic.
This
accounted
for
over
five
million
dollars
every
year.
Last
year,
that
number
was
cut
in
half
and
in
2021
it
was
only
slightly
over
a
million
dollars.
This
drop
in
revenue
for
the
city
is
substantial.
D
Up
until
this
year,
the
province
and
the
federal
governments
have
been
making
Canadian
cities
whole
and
filling
those
budget
gaps.
However,
both
the
Ontario
government
and
the
federal
government's
2023
budgets
stopped
doing
this.
That
means
that
all
of
the
financial
shortfalls
must
now
be
covered
by
us
as
a
municipality,
and
we
must
either
choose
to
raise
property
taxes
or
cut
services.
D
In
the
case
of
airports,
many
cities
opted
to
support
their
quick
recovery
and
fought
to
attract
new
and
returning
routes
by
making
direct
Financial
transfers.
I'll
give
Edmonton
city
council
as
an
example
which
made
a
direct
transfer
to
their
airport
monies
that
were
collected
from
residential
property
taxes
of
nearly
10
million
dollars.
They
were
not
alone.
Many
Canadian
cities
took
this
approach
to
try
to
help
make
their
airport
more
competitive
in
the
Scramble
for
roots.
D
Ottawa,
however,
opted
to
introduce
a
sip
plan,
rather
than
rely
on
a
bailout.
The
CIP
plan
offers
tax
increment
equivalent
grants
for
Approved
projects
and
I
know
that
there's
been
lots
of
conversation
about
what
that
actually
means
and
what
it
does
so
I
won't
go
into
that
today,
but
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
value
in
having
an
educational
component,
not
just
for
Council,
but
for
our
communities
as
to
what
it
actually
does
and
how
it
is
not
taxpayer
dollars.
D
If
you
were
to
visit
the
airport
today,
you
would
see
just
how
much
they're
struggling
with
flights
I
took
her
the
opportunity
to
look
at
yesterday
and
just
how
many
flights
were
coming
in
and
out.
There
was
less
than
70
flights
and
half
of
those
were
going
to
Toronto
were
basically
a
shuttle
bus
for
the
airport
in
Toronto.
While
there
are
a
little
more
than
a
dozen
international
flights
to
the
U.S
and
Mexico,
there
was
now
only
a
single
route
flying
out
of
Ottawa
that
travels
off
the
continent,
and
that
is
the
Air
France
route.
D
That's
running
five
times
a
week
to
Paris.
That's
it!
That's
all!
We've
got
when
discussing
the
CIP
Grant
application.
Some
argue
that
an
airport
hotel
may
eventually
get
built
in
those
25
years,
and
if
that
happens,
the
city
will
collect
the
full
property
taxes.
So
why
don't
we
just
wait
it
out?
They
would
be
completely
correct
about
the
hotel
specific
taxes.
However,
they
would
be
ignoring
the
Litany
of
other
taxes
that
are
collected
at
the
airport
and
that
actually
benefit
our
residents
and
our
city
coffers.
D
This
year,
the
city
passed
budget
2023
that
included
in
it
a
2.5
property
tax
increase.
This
increase
added
roughly
a
hundred
dollars
to
each
homeowner's
bill.
This
was
the
equivalent
to
roughly
96
people
traveling
through
Ottawa
Airport
pre-pandemic,
5
million
passengers
flew
out
of
our
airport,
with
400
427
000
of
those
traveling
outside
of
Canada
or
to
the
U.S
in
2022,
only
2.9
Million
flew
with
only
93
000
of
those
leaving
Canada
and
the
U.S
as
the
province
is
no
longer
covering
this
difference.
D
The
airport
Authority
wants
the
internal
terminal
hotel
with
a
Skywalk
right
into
the
terminal
building,
as
it
will
receive
monthly
monthly
rent
for
this
property,
which
it
will
then
use
to
buy
international
flights
from
the
major
carriers
they
had
to
pay
Air
France
for
the
direct
flight
to
Paris.
In
order
to
buy
more,
they
need
the
least
money
they
will
get
from
this
hotel
and
other
applicants
through
the
Sip
program.
D
What
many
do
not
know
is
that
cities
all
compete
to
have
their
airports
become
hubs
because
Hub
airports
bring
in
more
passengers
when
a
passenger
has
a
layover,
they
get,
they
get
off
the
plane
and
they
get
back
on
the
plane.
They
don't
even
have
to
leave
the
airport
that
counts
as
two
trips
and
the
municipality,
our
municipality.
We
actually
get
two
dollars
and
16
cents
for
that.
D
I
share
all
of
this
information,
because
this
conversation
is
so
much
more
about
a
hotel,
getting
a
tax
break.
We
opted
as
a
city
not
to
bail
at
the
airport,
but
if
this
grant
program
dies,
no
one
in
Ottawa
should
be
surprised.
If
that
conversation
is
that
that's
where
that
conversation
turns
to
because
it's
already
happened
in
multiple
Canadian
cities,
and
at
this
point
it
would
be
an
attempt
to
catch
up
to
those
airports,
but
realistically
they
have
a
head
start
and
they
have
already
been
confirming
flight
routes.
D
Edmonton
airport,
which
I
referenced
just
a
moment
ago,
saw
109
Grove
in
passenger
volume,
from
2021
to
2022,
and
at
2.7.2
million
passengers
forecast
for
2023
they're
already
approaching
their
pre-pandemic
passenger
levels.
As
this
loss
in
Revenue
becomes
permanent,
the
city
will
have
to
look
to
other
sources
of
revenue
and
that
will
include
money
from
our
taxpayers.
Z
Thank
you
mayor.
A
quick
question
about
the
Brockington
motion.
I
note
that
in
the
first
I
think
it's
the
first
operative
Clause
that
says
that
the
mayor
right
to
the
CEO
and
encouraging
the
work
with
counselors,
Bradley,
Brockington
and
derus
I
do
know
that
councilor
der
broche
is
actually
the
southern
neighbor
of
the
airport.
So
if,
if
counselor
I
guess
to
Roasters
and
Brockington
Are
all
willing
would
we
can
we
maybe
switch
them
around
in
the
motion?
Just
so?
It's
the
actual
neighbor.
G
Mayor
of
the
intent
is
to
invite
local
counselors,
and
so
the
names
aren't
as
important
as
the
objective,
and
that
is
the
local
counselors
work
with
the
airport,
so
I'm
very
open
to
to
counselor
cars
Point
as
well.
It
really
is
if
this
passes
working
with
counselors
in
this
southern
area,
to
work
on
a
session
with
the
airport.
So
it's
not
restrictive
to
the
three
mentioned.
N
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
speak
to
you
today,
as
a
neighbor
of
the
airport
for
over
20
years,
along
with
residents
of
Findlay
Creek
and
Riverside
South,
and
living
next
to
the
airport
is
very
much
like
living
next
to
a
big
elephant.
As
the
saying
goes,
the
entire
South
Gloucester
area
is
defined
by
the
airport
in
terms
of
the
location
of
the
homes
because
of
the
invisible
noise
Contours
that
Define
the
growth
in
the
South
End
and
the
airport
shares
with
us.
N
A
vast
Transportation
Network
that
is
under
massive
pressure
residents,
accept
I
think
that
we
we
live
in
this
Zone.
In
fact,
their
deeds
make
it
very
clear
that
you're
in
the
Airport
operating
Zone,
and
that
is
a
fact
of
life
and
and
if
just
a
few
weeks
ago,
I
found
myself
advocating
for
the
airport
as
a
key
economic
area
and
I
do
support
that.
But
with
the
right
tools,
I
am
new
to
this
file
and
was
not
prior
to
the
previous
decision
to
open
the
door
to
the
CIP.
N
So
I
do
think
that
I
have
that.
Liberty
have
that
privilege
to
have
have
a
fresh
look
at
this
particular
case.
At
the
time
of
the
decision,
I
tell
you.
I
had
reservations
because
we
do
have
employment
lands
in
South,
Ottawa
Ottawa.
That
I
think
are
much
more
deserving
candidates
for
a
CIP
and
I'll
speak
about
that.
So
my
position
today
is
based
on
a
few
points.
The
first
is
my
view
that
the
city's
first
job
to
support
businesses
is
providing
the
infrastructure.
N
We
have
had
considerable
work
done
in
in
the
the
area
in
terms
of
growth,
and
we
best
support
that
in
terms
of
the
employment
and
the
business
lands
by
providing
the
infrastructure
That's
essential
to
their
day-to-day
to
life.
I
was
disappointed
along
with
several
other
counselors.
That
is
part
of
this
budget
process,
that
we
put
a
question
mark
over
the
airport
Parkway,
and
that
decision
was
a
long
time
ago,
but
I
think
it
was
I.
N
Think
a
setback
for
the
residents
and
businesses
of
South
Ottawa,
including
the
airport
so
I,
do
have
concerns
with
that
and
I
think
the
residents
of
Riverside
South
are
rightly
saying
if
the
airport's
going
to
grow
and
we're
going
to
grow
and
the
infrastructure
needs
to
grow
with
that
and
I
think
that
is
a
fair
point
of
view.
I
would
add,
I
think
we're
doing
a
pretty
good
job
of
helping
your
airport
by
providing
future
customers.
N
We've
seen
tremendous
growth
in
Riverside,
South
and
Finley
Creek,
and
these
are
all
people,
businesses
that
will
use
the
airport
and
we've
set
some
very
ambitious
targets
to
increase
the
housing
growth
in
the
area.
My
second
concern
is
the
incrementalism
of
the
program
I.
You
know
I
really
think
that
the
the
focus
of
these
programs
should
be
on
stubborn
economic
areas
that
just
really
do
not
have
the
levers
for
economic
growth
and
I
think
we
saw
with
this
that
the
airport
does
have
levers.
N
N
It's
their
role
to
support
the
airports
and
ensure
that
they're
viable,
especially
in
these
small
markets
like
the
city
of
Ottawa
and,
unfortunately,
the
payments
in
lieu
of
taxes
system
is,
is
broken.
What
other
businesses,
because
of
the
pandemic,
paid
less
while
the
city
was
providing
the
same
level
of
service.
N
So
there's
some
real
fundamental
flaws
in
terms
of
how
the
cities
are
supported
in
terms
of
the
taxes
that
we
collect
from
the
federal
properties
and
I,
don't
think
we
should
gloss
over
that
in
any
way
and
I
really
do
see
this
as
a
federal
responsibility.
I'll
speak
to
the
Brockington
motion.
I
I
mean
I
I'm
happy
to
assist
in
any
way.
I
can
but
I
really
hope.
N
It's
the
federal
leaders
that
we
have
in
this
area
that
should
be
stepping
up
just
like
they
are
in
the
downtown
core
and
saying
that
we've
got
some
responsibility
here
to
manage
this
economic
area
in
the
downtown
I.
Think
the
federal
Representatives
need
to
do
the
same
thing
in
South
Ottawa,
so
in
closing,
I
have
I
think
been
a
friend
to
the
airport
in
the
past.
Through
other
tools,
I
supported
their
Billboards
at
that
time
that
were
controversial
that
brought
them
Revenue
I've
been
a
strong
advocate
for
the
north-south
LRT.
AA
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
on
the
business
case
that's
being
made
here.
This
is
not
a
service
or
a
business.
That's
lacking
the
area.
In
fact,
there
are
other
airport
hotels
and
that
were
not
subsidized
in
any
way
by
city
council
and
to
me
this
seems
this
would
represent
unfair
competition
for
those
businesses.
AA
I
understand
I,
agree
with
councilor
Carr
that
we
probably
should
have
paused
the
this
program
as
part
of
our
our
governance
review,
because
I've
been
hearing
from
many
many
residents,
whether
it
was
it's
the
Porsche
dealership
that
that
received
funding
for
a
tax
cut
through
this
program
in
the
last
term
of
council
or
this
hotel
residents,
don't
understand
how
this
would
impact
the
community
positively
well,
Hotel
German
is
not
a
publicly
traded
company.
It
appears
that
their
yearly
revenues
are
somewhere
between
100
and
500
million
dollars.
AA
To
me,
I
could
understand
the
financial
case.
For
example,
if
you
had
a
neighborhood
that
was
a
food
desert
that
really
needed
a
grocery
store.
I
could
understand
using
this
tool.
In
that
case,
if
there
were
other
unmet
needs,
downtown
would
love
a
hardware
store.
There
isn't
one
in
walking
distance
where
most
people
live
medical
services
near
seniors,
but
to
me
another
hotel
at
the
airport.
To
me,
it's
a
very
tenuous
connection
that
this
would
suddenly
make
the
airport
into
a
hub,
I,
I
I,
don't
see
the
evidence
of
that.
AA
AA
Again,
it's
a
tenuous
connection
that
this
would
lead
to
more
international
flights
and
therefore
more
tourism,
we're
already
investing
in
the
airport
significantly
by
extending
the
north
south
South
LRT,
which
I
think
is
fantastic
and
also
I,
think
this
is
financially
irresponsible.
We've
lost
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
of
Revenue
due
to
Bill
23.
AA
So
I
think
if
we
are
going
to
offer
grants
of
this
nature,
we
need
to
be
really
really
specific,
and
so
you
know
I
I
staff
did
their
job
in
this
case,
just
like
they
did
with
the
Porsche
dealership.
Technically
speaking,
this
meets
the
requirements
of
the
program,
but
I
think
it's
a
program.
We
need
to
pause,
we
need
to
review
and
that
we
have
no
business
subsidizing
extremely
wealthy
corporations
with
taxpayer
money.
Thank
you.
AB
AB
We
need
a
strong
private
sector
in
order
to
provide
the
good
paying
jobs
that
will
make
our
city
more
livable
in
Barrhaven.
West
I
cannot
move
towards
the
op
vision
of
50-minute
communities
without
a
significant
growth
in
good
paying
jobs.
We
need
good
employment
in
our
suburbs
and
opportunities
like
this
airport
hotel,
CIP
to
incentivize
Economic
Development
arcade,
in
addition
to
the
Canada
Tech
Park,
advantages
which
were
spoken
to
so
well
by
my
Council
colleague.
Lupine
has
a
10
kilometer
stretch
of
Highway
416
that
is
ripe
for
economic
growth.
AB
AB
I
want
my
daughters
to
be
able
to
afford
rent
or
a
mortgage
in
this
city.
We've
said
many
times
that
we
live
in
an
affordability
crisis.
Having
levers
at
the
city
level
to
incentivize
growth
that
would
not
naturally
occur
is
a
huge
asset.
In
this
specific
case,
we
have
the
opportunity
to
support
our
Airport's
growth,
a
program
which
all
of
the
key
stakeholders
support
the
Board
of
Trade
tourism
Ottawa,
our
own
economic
planners.
The
economic
advantages
to
our
city
are
not
political,
they
are
reality.
The
problem
is
that
the
public
narrative
has
been
skewed.
AB
This
is
not
City
taxpayers
paying
off
a
corporation.
It
is
not
that
at
all
and
perpetuating
this
false
equivalency
is
harmful.
This
is
offering
a
reduced
tax
rate
in
order
to
incentivize
growth.
That
wouldn't
otherwise
happen.
That's
it!
That's
all!
No
taxpayer
money
Investments.
This
program
pays
for
itself.
This
program
protects
taxpayers
because
it
generates
Revenue
that
would
not
otherwise
be
created.
We
end
up
ahead.
This
program
is
a
winner
for
the
city
and
our
taxpayers.
Other
municipalities
across
Canada
have
supported
their
airports.
It's
not
an
uncommon
practice.
AB
Economic
growth,
like
this,
creates
opportunity
for
increased
City
programming.
I
want
to
see
investments
in
infrastructure,
upgrades
generators
for
multi-story
apartments,
Road
surfacing
Transit
reserves,
affordable
housing
options
and
so
on,
but
to
not
take
advantage
of
economic
growth
opportunities.
In
order
to
accomplish
this,
growth
means
that
we
need
to
increase
the
tax
rate
to
pay
for
it.
Denying
this
opportunity
for
airport
growth
is
a
bad
policy
decision
for
the
long-term
prosperity
of
the
Econo
economy
of
the
city.
AB
AB
T
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I
did
speak
at
length
about
why
I
supported
this
at
committee
and
and
have
so
sense,
but
I
wanted
to
try
and
simplify
my
argument
today.
So
if
this
is
approved
today,
the
city
will
collect
13.7
million
over
the
next
25
years,
guaranteed
and
1
million
thereafter,
plus
3.7
million
in
permits
and
fees,
plus
30
million
in
local
construction
investment
plus
Revenue
collected
from
the
municipal
accommodation
tax.
That's
a
guarantee,
but
if
we
just
stick
with
that,
17.4
million
from
property
taxes
permits
and
fees.
T
If
you
vote
in
favor
of
this
today,
it's
guaranteed
money,
in-city
coffers
over
the
next
25
years
that
we
can
use
to
invest
in
infrastructure
and
housing
in
transit.
The
list
goes
on.
If
it's
rejected,
we
are
guaranteed
nothing
so
you're
gambling
with
17.4
million
in
taxpayer
dollars-
and
you
know
like
any
fun
night
at
the
casino.
When
you
make
a
bet,
you
have
a
chance
at
winning.
T
We
might
get
17.4
million,
plus
that
extra
3.4
million,
but
we
might
get
nothing
so
you
know
for
everyone
saying
that
they
know
that
the
hotel
is
going
to
be
built
anyway.
I,
don't
know
how
you
know
that,
but
I
balk
at
it,
because
we
have
both
the
airport
and
the
hotel
group
saying
that
that's
not
at
all
certain
and
the
experts
on
economic
development
in
this
city
are
own
Economic,
Development
staff,
but
also
the
Ottawa
Board
of
Trade
Ottawa
tourism,
the
tech
leaders.
They
are
saying,
take
the
deal.
T
They
see
this
as
critical
to
the
economic
development
of
our
city.
So
if
the
headline
was
Council
rolls
the
dice
on
17.4
million
of
your
tax
dollars,
do
you
think
residents
would
have
something
to
say
about
that?
I?
Do
I
really
do
that's?
Why
I
supported
it
and
the
reason
that
this
airport
CIP
was
created
is
because
the
airport
came
to
the
city
and
said
we
need
your
help
recovering
from
the
pandemic,
like
so
many
businesses,
but
the
reason
the
city
of
Ottawa
has
a
specific
vested
interest
in
seeing
the
airport
recover
quickly
and
recover.
T
Now
is
because
we
also
collect
a
check
from
the
airport
a
over
a
dollar
ahead
for
every
passenger
that
either
boards
or
gets
off
a
flight
at
the
Ottawa
airport
and
if
you're
on
a
connecting
flight.
You're
counted
twice
and
I've
said
these
numbers
before,
but
in
2019
pre-pandemic,
the
city
of
Ottawa
received
a
check
from
the
airport
for
5.5
million
dollars
for
that
passenger
fee
in
2021
it
went
down
to
1.4
million
dollars
a
73
decrease.
Again.
This
is
money
that
we
could
be
using.
We
need
money
now.
T
The
city
needs
money,
so
you
know
other
mid-side
cities
what
they
decided
to
do
is
they
literally
wrote
their
airport
authorities
a
check,
Edmonton
Regina,
Halifax,
Winnipeg,
but
I
think
the
city
bottle
was
creative.
We
said
we're
not
comfortable
using
actual
taxpayer
dollars
for
this,
but
you
know
what
we
will
do
we'll
set
up
this
incentive
program:
it'll
attract
Economic
Development
to
the
lands
that
you
own
and,
and
that
will
be
the
city's
contribution.
T
So
you
know,
other
councils
across
the
nation
recognize
the
value
of
the
airport,
to
the
overall
economic
prosperity
of
their
cities
and,
like
my
colleague,
was
just
saying,
I
think
in
Ottawa.
Unfortunately,
the
narrative
on
this
has
been
co-opted
and
I.
Think
we
have
something
to
lose
here.
So
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor.
J
Mr
Mayor
back
when
the
CIP
was
being
discussed,
I
voted
against
it
and
I
will
be
voting
against
this
motion
today.
I
did
vote
against
it
because
I
was
concerned,
or
rather
not
convinced
that
it
would
be
it
would
improve
or
increase
flights
to
Ottawa.
There's
many
factors
on
what
brings
people
to
Ottawa
and
why
direct
flights
would
be
better.
First
of
all,
we
lost
a
lot
and
everyone
did
due
to
the
pandemic.
We're
a
government,
town
and
more
meetings
were
being
done
by
zoom.
J
Zoom
hurt
us
more
than
anything,
and
it
continues
to
be
there.
So
why
come
here?
So
that's
a
that's.
A
big
loss
in
volume.
I
was
very
interested
to
listen
this
morning
on
CBC
radio
from
the
CEO
or
former
CEO
pardon
me
of
Air
Canada
Duncan
D
talking
about
he
didn't
think
this
would
help
I
felt
that
he
had
some
more
Authority
on
this
than
I
did
and
he
talked
about
how
the
airport
Authority
needs
to
speak
to
Airlines
and
convince
them
to
have
direct
flights.
J
We
have
made
some
gains
and
I
hope
to
see
that
continue.
Most
of
the
direct
flights
are
are
related
to
federal
government,
business
and
I.
Think
the
federal
government
needs
to
look
into
how
to
bring
back
things
like
meetings
and
conferences
Etc,
but
the
other
side
conversation
we
need
to
look
at
is
just
to
get
away
from
how
we
get
people
here.
J
We
think
in
terms
of
airports
is
High-Speed
Rail,
that's
something
that
we
need
to
discuss
for
the
future
too
of
getting
getting
people
to
Ottawa
and
that's
something
that
we
rarely
talk
about.
What
do
you
do
when
you
come
to
a
city
if
you
come
by
airport?
What's
your
first
impression
well
with
me
if
they
have
great
Transit,
if
I
can
get
from
that
Airport
to
downtown
I'm
impressed
and
I've
seen
that
in
many
cities?
That's
not
what
we're
doing
right
now
and
that
concerns
me
I.
J
Think
our
investment
in
excellent
public
transit
is
very
important.
It's
important
for
our
how
people
view
us
not
just
visitors
to
conferences
but
tourists
and
how
they
get
around.
So
we
do
have
a
lot
in
the
city
and
I'm
very
proud
of
it,
but
we
need
to
work
on
what
makes
us
great.
As
a
city
and
I,
don't
think
this
hotel
is
it?
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
mayor
councilor
Curry
and
her
opening
remarks
talked
about
the
West
Coast
San
Francisco
San
Fran
Oakland
San
Jose,
9.7
million
people
Ottawa
two
point
million
in
eastern
Ontario
San
Fran
airport.
Last
year,
40
42
million
passengers
went
through
that
airport
Ottawa
3
million.
We're
not
comparing
Apples
to
Apples
here
San
Fran
is
five
percent
are
five
times
larger
in
population
14
times
larger
in
passenger
count,
they're
a
hub
airport
for
United
and
Alaska.
G
We've
been
told
we're
intellectually
lazy
this
morning.
We're
arguing
a
micro
level
piece
and
we're
not
looking
at
the
macro
level
components
of
airport
competitiveness,
airport
rent-
where
are
you
born
of
trade
and
Ottawa
tourism,
on
Airport
rents
in
Ottawa
and
across
Canada
taxes
on
tickets
are
excessive
in
Canada.
Where
are
you
Board
of
Trade
and
Ottawa
tourism?
G
We
have
very
few
International
guests:
tourists
that
come
to
Ottawa.
They
go
to
Toronto.
They
go
along
the
401,
the
Montreal
Niagara
Falls,
Quebec
City.
They
don't
come
to
Otto
in
any
great
numbers.
Why
not?
Where
are
you
Ottawa
tourism,
Board
of
Trade
American
government
subsidized
some
flights
in
America,
so
smaller
markets
still
have
access
to
Transportation,
so
people
can
travel?
Do
we
do
that
in
Canada
to
the
North
or
East
Coast
or
other
rural
areas
that
could
get
people
moving
as
well
and
we've
seen
with
the
introduction
of
ultra
low-cost
Airlines
in
Canada?
G
People
who
didn't
travel
before
by
air
are
now
traveling
because
they
can
get
those
cheap
tickets
and
visit
family
in
these
smaller
markets,
where
it's
cheaper
for
Airlines
to
land,
cheaper
fees.
So
these
are
macro
level
issues
that
affect
competitiveness,
that
can
get
more
people
traveling
and
we're
arguing
about
a
hotel
Grant.
G
Where
have
we
been
on
all
these
issues
that
contribute
to
the
competitiveness
of
airports
and
contribute
to
higher
costs
for
Canadians
to
travel
within
our
country
down
to
the
States
or
internationally?
That's
intellectually
lazy
to
not
fight
the
good
fight
on
the
big
issues
that
are
impacting
airports
in
this
city.
I,
don't
think.
Sip
is
the
number
one
tool
that
we
have
for
economic
development.
I.
G
If
there's
demand
for
a
ninth
hotel
in
this
area,
build
it
with
your
own
money,
if
there's
truly
demand
for
this
hotel,
where
there
is
a
financially
viable
case
to
support
this
hotel,
then
Jermaine
go
for
it.
As
I
said
to
the
delegate
at
committee,
I
want
you
to
come
to
Ottawa
I'm
glad
you
have
hotels
in
Ottawa.
I
want
you
to
be
in
Ottawa
for
a
long
time,
but
please
use
your
money
to
build
your
hotel.
G
I
do
believe.
An
economic
argument
can
be
made
for
either
side.
There
will
be
economic
benefits
to
our
city
if
we
provide
this
Grant
and
the
hotel
gets
built
and
I
do
believe
that
if
they
choose
not
to
build,
but
there's
an
economic
case
for
a
ninth
Hotel,
someone
will
come
in,
don't
know
the
timelines
counselor,
but
that
will
come
in
because
the
market
will
dictate
it.
G
Mr
LaRoche
said
in
five
years,
there'll
be
two
extra
million
passengers
using
our
Airport,
and
we
know
that
there's
a
net
increase
in
population
in
this
city
of
at
least
10
000
people
per
year.
So
when
you
have
a
federal
government
as
our
major
employer
that
still
can't
get
its
act
together
on
our
our
employees
allowed
to
travel,
are
there
going
to
be
big
conferences
again
what
those
timelines
are
when
we
are
the
capital
of
Canada,
when
a
lot
of
that
should
be
happening
in
this
city
that
impacts
us.
G
They
were
a
major
component
of
passengers
who
were
using
the
airport.
Yes,
it's
a
diverse
mix
of
passengers,
but
who's
having
that
conversation
and
all
the
other
things
I
listed.
So
we
can
argue
about
the
the
micro
level
issues
that
impact
our
airport
and
it's
fair
game
to
have
that
discussion
today.
But
if
we
don't
address
the
bigger
issues
that
impact
their
parts,
we
will
never
make
any
significant
progress
in
this
city.
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor,.
V
B
R
R
This
one's
been
a
a
wrestling
match
for
me,
because
I
truly
believe
the
the
the
CIP
is
to
incentivize
a
business
to
build
in
advance
of
when
they're
not
going
to
do
it
and
I
think
we've
seen
that
in
Belle's
Corners
in
Orleans
and
localized
cips,
I,
truly
support
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
based
on
Merit
and
that's
why
we
actually
have
a
final
rubber
stamp
at
the
end
of
the
day.
The
problem
I
have
with
this
one.
Is
you
know
the
incentive
to
build.
I
think
is
already
there.
R
The
the
the
other
issue
is
aside
from
the
other
eight
hotels
that
are
there.
800
meters
from
the
door
with
a
shuttle
service,
still
guarantees
that
you
could
stay
at
a
hotel
right
next
door
for
30
seconds,
so
you
can
go
stand
in
line
for
three
hours
at
Customs.
It
doesn't
change
anything
it's.
This
is
part
of
the
problem
I'm.
R
Having
with
this
one
I
I
think
we
were
sold
a
bill
of
goods
that
we
would
find
a
way
to
be
able
to
make
us
into
an
airport
that
that
would
incentivize
people
to
come
here
and
change
things
and
I
don't
see
a
hotel
doing
that.
The
the
fact
that
when
we
were
at
committee,
they
were
asking
for
a
certain
amount
of
money,
the
fact
that
they
reduced
the
number
reduce
the
years.
R
It's
almost
like
they're
caching,
you
know
it's
like
coupons
at
a
grocery
store
now
they're,
just
looking
for
anything
at
this
point
and
frankly,
they
can
afford
to
do
it
on
their
own
I,
I'm,
I've,
I've
I.
You
know
this
is
why
we
don't
rubber
stamp
things.
We
have
to
look
at
everything
in
its
totality.
R
You
take
it
to
the
bank
they're
going
to
build
this
building
they're
going
to
build
this
hotel
with
or
without
us.
I'd
rather
see
this
money
going
to.
If
we
actually
do
and
again,
we've
had
a
duly
elected
mayor
that
is
committed
to
reviewing
cips
I
want
to
make
sure
they
go
to
projects
that
are
going
to
really
help
local
communities
and
I.
Don't
see
that
in
this
case.
So
for
that
reason,
I
will
not
be
supporting
the
CIP
today
and
thank
you
for
the
time
Mr
Mayor.
F
F
The
other
part
of
the
gamble
that
needs
to
pay
off
is
that
having
an
airport
hotel
attached
to
the
terminal
is
going
to
give
the
airport
enough
lease
Revenue
to
begin
Landing
international
flights.
You
got
to
pay
to
play,
We're
told
the
amount
of
lease
Revenue
that
will
come
into
the
Ottawa
airport
from
having
the
hotel
attached
from
that
incremental
revenue
is
not
going
to
land
Lufthansa
flights,
it's
not
going
to
land
flights
to
London,
it's
not
going
to
land
flights
to
Singapore.
F
If
we
want
to
play
in
that
space,
let's
make
that
decision
as
a
council,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
make
a
much
much
bigger
bet.
The
ante
is
far
far
higher
than
what
we're
talking
about
today
in
international
Aviation
and
tourism.
I
think
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
talking
about
is
very,
very
small
chips.
F
We
don't
have
big
chips
to
play
properly
in
this
space.
What
we
do
have
are
the
tools
that
councilor
Brockington
and
the
councilor
DeRose
spoke
about
Municipal
tools
that
helped
to
incentivize
businesses,
zoning
building
infrastructure,
the
stuff
that
is
our
knitting.
Those
are
the
chips
that
we
can
throw
on
the
table
and
those
are
the
gambles
that
we
can
make
successfully,
but
I
don't
believe
they're
trying
to
play
in
in
these
multi-million
dollar
spaces.
F
Is
this
Ottawa
Municipal
council's
place
to
play
folks
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
talking
about
may
be
relatively
small
in
order
to
try
to
retrieve
the
outcomes
that
we
want
and
I
can't?
Imagine
that
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
talking
about
is
going
to
successfully
fight
those
big
Market
forces.
But
it
is
a
lot
of
money
to
us
at
3.74
million
dollar
tax
break
over
the
course
of
the
next
10
years.
F
Is
revenues
to
provide
services
to
residents
are
going
to
have
to
be
made
up
from
the
rest
of
the
tax
base
right?
Maybe
the
taxpayer
is
not
cutting
a
check
to
the
airport,
but
the
taxpayers
are
subsidizing
the
airport
we
have
we're
going
to
go
into
next
year
with
a
closing
balance
in
our
Transit
operating
revenue
of
I
believe
8.9
million
dollars
somewhere
in
that
ballpark.
That's
not
going
to
be
enough
for
us
to
cover
the
operating
shortfall
that
we're
going
to
experience
next
year,
a
300
or
30.
F
Sorry,
a
3.74
million
dollar
tax
holiday
is
real
money
when
it
comes
to
doing
the
things
that
Municipal
councils
are
supposed
to
be
doing,
which
is
providing
services
to
the
residents
of
Ottawa.
If
we
can't
afford
to
play
in
the
big
space,
then,
let's
work
with
our
partners.
Let's
work
with
our
allies,
let's
work
with
other
levels
in
government
in
order
to
do
that
effectively,
but
in
the
meantime
we
need
to
stick
to
our
knitting
and
make
sure
that
the
residents
of
Ottawa
get
the
services
that
we
have
promised
them.
F
E
L
You
know
whether
flights
will
be
coming
back
or
not.
Our
payment
in
lieu
of
taxes
is
based
on
passenger
volumes.
The
more
volumes
passenger
trips,
as
we've
heard,
the
more
pills
that
the
city
you
know
gains
as
a
result.
So
I'm
not
sure
I'm
answering
your
question
exactly,
but
if
you
want
to
clarify
I'll,
do
my
best.
No.
E
It
sounds
like
we
share
the
same
Viewpoint
I'm,
not
seeing
the
direct
link
between
this
application
and
the
increase
in
flight
and
and
I'm
not
hearing
anything
about
what
happened
to
all
the
flights
we
already
paid
for.
Are
they
coming
back
or
do
we
repay
for
them?
I
I
was
hoping
that
that
would
have
been
part
of
the
background
reporting
or
that
went
into
the
report
in
support
of
this
application
that
we
would
have
an
answer
on
that.
Okay,.
L
So
certainly
you
know
the
airport
is.
You
know,
they've
indicated
at
the
meeting
that
they're
working
you
know
they're
they're,
in
contact
with
carriers
trying
to
get
those
flights
back.
You
know
to
the
city
of
Ottawa,
they
spoke
of.
You
know,
aspirations
of
creating
a
a
hub
at
the
city
and
not
that
this
application
would
do
that
do
that
on
its
own,
but
they
felt
that
this
would
be
an
important
piece
of
a
much
bigger
puzzle.
E
L
E
U
U
So
I
don't
think
we
can
fault
the
hotel
for
applying
for
a
grant
that
we
offered
and
I
suppose
we
could
look
at
it
cynically
and
say:
well,
maybe
their
business
case
isn't
really
that
in
that
Dire
Straits,
but
remember
the
hotel
I
think
they
told
us
a
committee.
Pardon
me
of
the
airport
has
been
looking
for
a
hotel
to
be
a
part
of
their
strategic
plan
for
the
airport
for
seven
years
and
they
do
not
have
any
other
viable
Partners.
This
is
the
only
one.
U
That's
come
to
the
table
on
the
basis
of
the
CIP
tax
incremental
Grant.
This
is
intended
to
kick-start
development
around
the
airport.
That's
what
the
CIP
is
for.
The
hotel
is
a
crucial
part
of
the
airport
strategy
to
attract
more
flights
and
more
passengers,
which
is
a
benefit
to
us
directly.
As
a
city,
there
may
be
a
market
for
a
hotel,
maybe
five
years
from
now,
maybe
10
years
from
now.
U
The
whole
point
of
the
CIP
is
to
help
kick-start
development
now
as
part
of
recovery
from
the
covid
pandemic
and
keep
us
competitive
with
other
cities
bigger
picture.
There
are
four
things
we
can
do
as
a
council
to
help
people
in
our
city.
We
can
make
decisions
to
improve
health
and
wellness.
We
can
help
improve
access
and
affordability
of
housing.
We
can
help
to
improve
mobility
and
we
can
help
to
secure
better
jobs
and
more
jobs
in
our
community.
U
This
application
speaks
directly
to
that
last
Point,
jobs
and
economic
development,
and-
and
all
of
these
things
are
linked
together.
I
mentioned
earlier-
the
airport
in
2017.
This
is
the
latest
figures
that
they've
published
contributed
2.2
billion
dollars
towards
the
city's
GDP.
In
that
year,
our
total
GDP
at
the
city
was
67
billion,
so
that
means
the
airport
contributed
three
percent,
roughly
three
percent
of
our
City's
entire
economic
output.
So
why
is
there
so
much
attention
here?
Why
do
we
have
a
CIP
here?
Why
is
the
airport
area
Special
Economic
Development
Zone?
U
It's,
because
with
that
it
would
be
in
a
pretty
awful
situation
in
our
city
in
terms
of
economic
health
in
terms
of
jobs
in
terms
of
prosperity
in
our
city
in
Toronto,
Richard
Florida
did
a
study
just
before
the
pandemic,
a
respected,
City,
Builder
and
person
with
a
lot
of
great
ideas
about
cities,
and
he
found
that
airports
were
as
important
as
a
high-tech
sector
or
attracting
high-skilled
talent
in
promoting
economic
prosperity
in
the
city.
So
it
is
important
this
hotel.
Yes,
it's
a
hotel.
U
It's
one,
one
piece
of
a
very
important
strategic
strategy
for
the
airport
recognize
also
we
have
people
from
the
airport
in
the
hotel
here
today,
they're
not
available
to
answer
questions,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
them
for
attending
and
I
guess:
I'll
leave
it
there
and
we'll
see
we'll
see
how
the
vote
goes.
Thank
you
mayor.
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Gower
I'll,
just
say
a
couple
of
quick
things
to
wrap
up.
First
of
all,
I
wanted
to
speak
to
councilor
brockington's
motion
which
I
don't
support,
but
I
say
that
with
a
smile
and
I
say
that
respectfully
because,
as
as
the
counselor
knows,
I,
don't
support
motions
that
ask
me
to
write
letters
and
I.
Also,
don't
the
airport
doesn't
report
to
us.
It
doesn't
report
to
the
finance
committee,
so
there's
there's
nothing.
B
I
support
the
intent
of
the
motion
and
I
and
the
the
content
of
the
motion
is
all
things
that
we
can
do
anyway.
So
we
can
I
I
can
engage
with
the
airport.
I
can
engage
with
the
tourism
Community
I
can
and
we
can
ask
the
airport
to
come
to
a
to
our
finance
committee
meetings
without
a
motion.
So
again
respectfully
I
don't
support
the
motion,
but
we'll
let
we'll
let
the
votes
go
where
they
go
on
that.
B
Often,
these
decisions
get
framed
as
this
versus
that,
and
there
are
different,
a
bunch
of
different
versions
of
that
that
we've
heard
I,
don't
believe
that
the
decisions
of
city
council
must
always
be
a
choice
between
economic
development
and
our
other
priorities.
As
I
have
said
many
times,
I
see
Economic
Development
as
the
the
engine
that
creates
the
resources
that
we
need
to
address
our
other
priorities,
including
affordable
housing,
climate
change,
homelessness,
mental
health
and
addiction,
and
so
on.
B
I
I
want
to
be
clear
as
well
that
I
support
staff
and
appreciate
the
hard
work
that
they
put
into
this
proposal
and
also
that
I
respect
the
counselors
who
support
this
proposal
and
I
respect
their
reasons
for
doing
so.
This
has
been
a
healthy
conversation
and
I
think
it
underscores
why
we
need
to
review
the
CIP
program
and
have
clear
criteria
going
forward
so
that
we
are
all
in
agreement
and
we're
on
the
same
page
in
terms
of
what
we
want
from
this
program.
B
I
think
the
debate
that
we've
seen
today
is
demonstrates
why
I'm
not
a
fan
of
cips,
because
we
all
apply
different
criteria
and
I
think
we
need
more
clarity
around
that
going
forward.
So
I
hope
that
we
will
soon
hear
the
results
of
that
review
and
be
able
to
move
forward
with
more
clarity
about
what
we
will
support
and
what
we
will
not
support
going
forward.
So,
as
you
know,
I'm
not
voting
for
this
proposal.
B
Show
host
I
am
confident
that
we
will
find
other
ways
that
do
not
involve
taxpayers
money,
to
stimulate
tourism
and
economic
development
and
to
support
the
airport's
aspiration
to
become
a
travel.
Hub
and
I
am
committed
to
working
on
these
Solutions
immediately
I've
already
reached
out
to
engage
with
leaders
at
the
airport
and
in
the
business
Community
to
start
that
work,
so
I
won't
be
supporting
the
proposal,
but
I
do
support
the
airport
and
the
work
that
we
need
to
do
going
forward.
B
AC
AD
A
I
C
S
C
S
B
D
I
Yes,
this
was
about
the
fireworks
by
law
and
so
therefore
be
resolved
at
the
city
of
Ottawa
Grant.
An
exemption
to
bylaw
number
2003
237
has
amended
to
the
Ottawa
Sports
Entertainment
Group
to
allow
for
the
use
of
smoke
devices
for
Athletico
games,
starting
April,
15
2023
until
December
31st
2026
for
home
games
and
playoff
games.
If
required,
and
granting
Jose
get
exemption
from
section
17
of
the
bylaw,
which
requires
a
permit
application
to
be
made
30
days
in
advance
to
the
proposed
use,
subject
to
osig
meeting.
I
All
other
permit
requirements
of
the
bylaw,
including
section
18,
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
fire
chief
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
following
the
following:
the
2024
season,
the
GM
of
emergency
and
protective
services
issue,
a
memo
to
council
summarizing
any
issues
raised
by
the
public,
osegg
or
ofs.
Regarding
the
use
of
smoke
devices
at
TD
place.
N
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Mayor,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
councilor
Rudolph
for
seconding
this
motion
and
thank
him
publicly
for
his
service
in
the
military,
as
well
as
counselor
Hill
for
his
service
in
the
military.
This
motion
is
aimed
at
recognizing
the
100th
anniversary
of
the
Royal
Canadian
Navy
Reserves
across
this
country
and
locally
the
be
100th
anniversary
of
the
hmcs
Carlton
and
in
this
motion
I'm
proposing
three
means
by
which
we
would
recognize
the
reserve
and
hmcs
Carlton.
N
The
first
through
you,
Mr
Mayor,
granting
of
the
freedom
of
the
city
to
hmcs
Carlton
in
September
of
2023
and
understand
protocol
is,
is
working
on
this
important
ceremony,
planting
some
Royal
Canadian
Navy
Reserve,
Two
anniversary
tulips
that
have
been
developed
in
partnership
with
the
the
Canadian
tourist
Canadian,
Tulip
Festival,
the
Ottawa
tulip
festival
and
planting
of
a
Tree
in
Diamond
Jubilee
Park
in
Finley
Creek,
which
I
will
support
through
through
my
office.
So
today
we
pay
tribute
to
the
generations
of
sailors
officers
and
support
staff.
N
Who've
served
with
distinction
in
the
Royal
Canadian
Navy.
We
honor
their
courage,
their
commitment,
their
sacrifice
and
as
they
face
adversity,
uncertainty
and
danger
and
fulfilling
their
responsibility
to
our
to
our
country
and
to
our
to
our
city
and
to
our
allies.
And
this
is
an
important
anniversary
for
the
reserves
and
for
the
Navy.
We
didn't
have
a
Navy
until
1923
and
it
was
really
part
of
our
country
becoming
more
of
an
international
country.
N
So
again,
I
I'm
very
proud
to
to
put
this
forward
today,
Mr
Mayor,
to
to
support
the
men
and
women
and
and
staff
of
the
Navy
and
to
the
reserves,
who
basically
have
undertaken
kind
of
a
part-time
role
to
to
step
up
when
we
need
them
to
step
up
to
serve
our
community,
whether
it
be
floods
or
are
supporting
our
emergency
services
or
ultimately
serving
on
a
ship
or
on
a
submarine
in
some
capacity
around
the
world.
For
protecting
our
work.
N
Had
the
privilege
of
attending
a
banquet
with
the
men
and
women
of
hmcs,
Carlton
and
I
can
tell
you
that
you
should
be
very
proud
of
the
work
that
they
are
doing
onto
the
leadership
of
Andrew
Knowlton,
so
I
thank
members
for
their
support
today
in
honoring,
the
Navy
Reserves
and
the
the
important
history
and
contributions
of
hmcs
Carleton
locally.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
councilor
Dave
I'll.
Just
add
a
personal
note.
If
you'll
permit
me
that
my
late
sister
was
a
member
of
the
Royal
Canadian
Reserves
at
hmcs,
Carlton
and
probably
most
of
the
happiest
moments
of
her
life
were
spent
with
with
the
people
there.
So
I
appreciate
you
bringing
this
forward.
Thank
you,
counselor
is
the
motion
carried.
Q
Therefore
be
it
resolved
that
the
city
council
waived
60
percent
of
the
cash
and
live
for
Parkland
fees
required
for
the
pending
building
permit
at
5703
loggers
way
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
city
council
direct
staff
to
review
the
Parkland
dedication
by
law
to
determine
whether
the
bylaw
should
be
amended
to
extend
the
transition
Clauses
for
Rural
building
permits
outside
of
villages
where
lands
were
subdivided
for
individual
residential
law
purposes.
Prior
to
the
new
bylaw
coming
into
force
and
report
back
to
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
committee
by
Q3
of
2024..
Q
So
I'll
just
take
the
time
to
to
explain
why
I
did
this
and
and
what
I'm
really
trying
to
achieve.
I've
I
have
received
a
couple
calls
from
colleagues
concerned
with
what
what
it
is
I'm
trying
to
do
here
and
for
me
until
two
years
ago
or
a
year
ago
we
did
not
collect
cash
and
Lewis
Parkland
at
the
building
page
or
a
building
permit
stage,
and
so
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
who
would
argue
that
we
shouldn't
be
doing
it
at
that
stage.
Q
But
that's
not
what
I'm
going
to
be
arguing
today
and
in
fact,
when
I
started
this
process.
My
goal
was
not
to
waive
the
Parkland
dedication
fee.
It
was
to
bring
it
down
to
a
a
flat
rate
which
is
currently
offered
at
the
stage
of
plan
of
subdivision
and
or
creating
a
lot
through
consent.
So
all
I'm,
really
trying
to
do
is
allow
someone
getting
a
building
permit
when
they
have
cash
and
Lou
applied
at
that
stage.
Q
I
would
like
for
them
to
be
able
to
have
the
option
to
choose
the
flat
rate
like
they
do
at
the
other
stages
of
the
process.
So
I
think
it's
somewhat
unfair
to
ask
an
individual
home
builder,
just
trying
to
build
a
single
home
for
their
family
to
pay
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
just
for
cash
in
lieu
of
Parkland
and
I
have
received
a
couple
of
calls
from
people
in
my
award
concerned
about
that.
I
would
think
that
this
normally
would
occur
in
rural
areas.
Q
Just
because
of
the
way
plans
of
subdivision
have
have
gone
since
since
amalgamation
and
people
paying
cash
and
live
with
Parkland.
So
someone
buys
a
a
lot
and
then
goes
to
get
a
building
permit
and
gets
assessed.
Parkland
fee
gets
surprised,
obviously,
and
again,
I'm
not
here,
to
waive
the
entire
fee.
Q
J
Yeah,
thank
you.
Mayor
I
appreciate
you
wanting
to
help
out
the
certain
people
but
I'm
concerned
about
the
precedent.
The
sets,
especially
when
we've
lost
Revenue
with
development
charges,
so
I'd
like
to
get
a
comment
from
staff
about
this
being
precedent.
Setting
having
one
offs
is
always
tricky
because
we
we
use
that
Revenue
in
good
faith
and
and
it's
important
so
can
I,
get
a
comment
from
planning
staff
or
for
Park
staff.
Perhaps.
H
H
So
we
are
very
mindful
of
setting
precedent
in
in
terms
of
both
the
cash
and
lieu
and
then
the
actual
taking
of
land
four
Parks
and
therefore
have
advised
the
counselor
that
this
would
be
a
council
decision
and,
to
the
greatest
extent
possible
that
it
only
applied
to
this
specific
property.
If
Council
deems
an
exception
to
be
made
to
to
the
bylaw.
J
AE
Thank
you,
mayor,
councilor,
Kavanaugh,
ask
my
question
to
staff,
but
I
also
appreciate
the
intent
of
the
intent
of
this
motion
by
councilor,
Kelly
and
but
I
also
can't
support
weaving
of
the
fees
on
a
one-off
basis,
but
I
would
support
the
review
because
I
appreciate
that
there's
a
role
of
context
here
that
perhaps
is
not
the
same
in
other
areas
of
the
city.
So
if
we
do
call
the
gazing
A's
on
this
motion,
I
would
like
to
separate
those
two
Clauses.
AE
I
At
the
same
time,
I
think
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
getting
a
whole
bunch
of
property
owners
coming
to
us
and
requesting
these
things
on
a
regular
basis,
and
so
you
know
I'm
willing
to
to
support
the
motion
today,
but
I
think
the
I'd
be
concerned
about
the
the
future
president.
That's
why,
with
the
review
I
hope
staff
are
very
clear
about.
I
You
know
policy
in
this
regard
and
have
a
clear
position
of
of
we
support
this
or
we
don't
and
I'm
not
hearing
that
today,
but
I
think
we
need
to
clear
a
very
clear
position
from
our
staff
team
based
on
all
the
work
we
just
did
on
the
The
Parks
dedication
violent
mayor.
That
was
a
lot
of
that
was
a
lot
of
effort
that
went
in
by
City
staff
and
given
the
appeals
that
are
going
on
now,
I
want
to
hear
a
clear
position
from
our
from
our
staff,
team
and
I.
I
The
last
point
I'll
just
make
mayor
is
that
yes,
councilmate
is
the
authority
on
Cil
at
the
end
of
the
day
in
terms
of
waiving
issues,
but
but
these
should
probably
go
to
Iraq
in
the
first
place.
Right
should
go
through
the
Iraq
committee
and
then
come
here
for
a
final
decision
so
just
to
to
put
that
out
there
too.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you
very
much
Mr
Mayor,
and
certainly
thanks
to
my
colleague,
counselor
Kelly,
for
bringing
this
forward.
This
is
a
large
issue
in
the
rural
area,
and
you
know
a
quick
Google,
Maps
search
will
show
you
that
the
distance
from
the
subject
property
that
we're
discussing
today
to
the
closest
Municipal
Park
is
seven
and
a
half
kilometers
away.
The
second
closest
park
is
12
kilometers
away,
and
so,
when
we're
looking
at
Parkland
funds
to
develop
parks
and
communities,
it's
certainly
in
my
mind
would
not
apply
here.
M
Also
respecting
the
comments
of
my
colleagues,
Mr
Mayor
and
in
terms
of
precedent
setting.
We
don't
want
to
do
that,
but
I
certainly
think
this
is
another
example
of
a
one-size-fits-all
policy
that
doesn't
quite
fit
us
here.
You
know
counselors
in
the
rural
area,
just
like
our
colleagues
in
the
urban
area
are
supportive
of
funding
for
Community
Parks.
M
We
just
want
to
make
sure
those
that
are
paying
for
them
can
actually
use
them
and
a
seven
and
a
half
kilometer
distance
from
the
subject
property
to
the
closest
simple
Park,
certainly
is
evidence
that
this
policy
does
warrant
a
review,
which
is
why
I
was
pleased
to
Second
this
motion.
Mr
Mayor
from
my
colleague.
That's
all
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor.
K
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
like
I'm
a
little
bit.
This
is
a
little
bit
slippery
slope
for
us
and
especially
in
the
rural
area,
but
I
like
to
hear
the
comment
from
our
staff
concerning
this
motion
and
are
we
setting
presence
on
that
or
not
and
what
else
another
application
on
another
group
is
going
to
come
for
us
to
start
bringing
motion
to
council.
So
if
someone
can
answer
that,
that
would
be
great.
H
K
Q
I
just
interact
there
I'd
like
to
get
clarification
from
staff,
if
that's
possible,
because
when
I
first
started
this
Pursuit
again,
my
my
goal
is
not
to
wave
it
the
only
reason
I'm
trying
to
wave
it
is
because
we
can't
change
the
bylaw
till
later
on
because
of
all
of
those
appeals.
So
I
worked
with
staff
to
sort
of
alleviate
that,
but
it
was
my
understanding
that
only
Council
can
waive
cash
and
live
with
Parkland
fees
and
therefore
we
would
not
be
able
to
do
this
at
Iraq.
C
F
Do
I
I
would
be
happy
to
enough
to
refer
this
back
to
committee.
I,
don't
see
a
problem
with
passing
this
today,
I
know
I
had
a
chance
to
chat
with
counselor
Kelly
and
with
staff
as
well
on
this
one.
The
the
motion
is
crafted
such
that
it's
an
issue
between
the
counselor
and
his
community,
because
it
is
the
award
portion.
That's
waived
so
I
I'm
ready
to
support
the
motion
as
it
stands
today,
without
necessarily
referring
it.
R
Leaper
counselor
Tierney
great
to
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
and
I
appreciate
everything.
My
Council
colleagues
doing
I
actually
grew
up
at
constant
space,
so
I
completely
understand,
there's
differences.
So
just
on
the
item
of
referral,
we
always
like
to
have
the
opportunity
for
the
public
to
come
out
and
speak,
and
this
will
give
that
opportunity.
R
U
B
Okay,
then,
on
the
referral
motion.
Is
that
carried
okay?
Thank
you.
So,
let's
move
to
motions
requiring
suspension
of
the
rules
of
procedure.
There's
a
motion
from
counselor
leaper
seconded
by
counselor
Gower.
That
is
time
sensitive.
Regarding
100
Stacy,
Drive
councilor
leaper
did
you
do
you
want
to
speak
at
times.
F
I'll
read
the
motion
mayor
and
then
I'll
ask
Mr,
White
or
one
of
the
legal
team
to
give
the
council
some
context,
whereas
the
witness
list
for
the
100cc
hearing
is
to
be
submitted
on
April,
13,
2023
and
whereas
Legal
Services
has
not
been
successful
in
retaining
a
witness
to
provide
planning
opinion.
Evidence,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
rules
of
procedure
be
suspended
to
permit
the
following
notion.
F
Whereas
on
September,
21st
2022
city
council
refused
the
rezoning
application
in
respect
of
100
species
and
whereas
Legal
Services
reached
out
to
six
planning
firms
to
seek
to
retain
opinion
evidence
in
support
of
the
position
of
council
and
whereas
no
firm
accepted
the
retainer.
Therefore
be
it
resolved
that
legal
services
be
instructed
to
advise
the
Ontario
land
tribunal
that
the
city
will
not
oppose
the
rezoning
application
respective
100cc
from
ip6
to
r4y01
and
01r,
as
detailed
in
the
staff
report
and
I'll
turn
that
over
to
staff.
For
for
the
context
on
this.
O
Mayor
I
think
some
there
was
some
additional
context
circulated
by
memo
this
morning.
I
think
that
the
memo
itself
is
largely
self-explanatory
and
I
don't
purport
to
be
like
Mr
Mark,
an
expert
in
the
planet
area,
but
suffice
to
say
that
the
city's
position
needs
to
be
supported
by
external
expert
evidence
and
in
the
event
that
we
are
unable
to
provide
that
the
likelihood
of
success
at
the
tribunal
is
negligible
and,
as
a
result,
while
I
think
that
would
the
outcome
would
be
essentially
predetermined.
O
F
V
You
Mr
Mayor,
so,
as
you
can
imagine,
the
community
of
Canada
North
is
quite
upset
about
this.
However
I.
What
I
really
want
to
do
is
thank
Tim
Mark
and
the
legal
staff
and
the
mayor
staff
for
all
of
their
help.
In
the
last
ditch
efforts
the
amount
of
work
that
went
on
trying
to
get
a
planner
Engineers
to
defend
the
city's
position
was
admirable
and
I
really
appreciate
that.
V
Let
I
just
want
to
remind
people
who
voted
in
sport
of
the
community
here
and
people
who
weren't
here
that
this
is
a
development
where
it's
an
apartment,
building
in
an
industrial
park,
beside
a
wood
processing
plant
and
a
nuclear
facility
with
no
Transportation
options
within
a
kilometer
with
no
pedestrians,
sidewalks,
no
Lighting
in
the
industrial
park
and
two
failed
intersections
on
the
street
and
then
the
next
street
over
unbelievable
traffic
congestion,
and
rightly
so.
This
Council
rejected
that
application,
because
this
Council
said
that's
not
a
good
place
for
people
to
live.
V
Why
would
I
spend
the
time
it's
going
to
fail?
You
know,
there's
there's
a
view
at
the
Olt
that
you
know
what
does
it
matter?
Let's
build
on
a
wetland,
so
I
I
want
everyone
to
understand
that
and
appreciate
how
disappointed
the
community
is,
because
it
was
such
a
strong
case
and
it's
not
a
good
place
for
people
to
live
and
I
certainly
hope
that
we
have
site
plan.
V
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
say
in
site
plan,
but
our
staff
do
there
are
things
that
can
be
done
to
make
sure
that
it
is
actually
a
safe
place
for
people
to
live
anyway.
So
I
don't
really
want
to
support
this,
but
I
think
it's
silly
to
vote
against
it,
because
it's
something
we
have
to
do
now,
but
anyway,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you're
all
aware
of
what
this
one
was
about.
Anyway,
thank
you
again
staff
and
to
the
mayor's
staff
for
all
of
your
help.
AE
Thanks
Mr
Mayor:
this
is
just
I've,
not
seen
a
emotion
like
this
before
and
unfortunately,
I
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
read
the
memo
that
came
out
just
after
9
A.M
this
morning.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
the
firms
that
you
reached
out
to
refused
to
be
a
witness
on
behalf
of
the
city
and
that's
the
requirement
of
the
the
Olt
is
that
we
have
a
witness
like
they
did
not
support.
The
city's
position
in
this
case
is
that
what
transpired.
AE
B
AC
If
so,
how
was
the
estimate
determined?
If
not,
why
have
we
not
question
two?
Should
staff
determine
that
this
tree
clearing
was
not
carried
out
in
accordance
with
normal
Farm
practices?
What
action
would
the
city
take
to
a
remediate
the
tree
loss
in
accordance
with
the
no
net
loss
policy,
which
is
policy,
4.8,
point
1.5
in
the
new
official
plan
and
B?
What
action
would
the
city
take
to
pursue
the
enforcement
of
appropriate
bylaws
pursuant
to
the
inappropriate
removal
of
trees?
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I,
believe
this
has
been
circulated
to
everybody.
It's
a
lesson
learned
I'll
call
it
from
the
storm.
Over
the
last
few
years,
the
city
of
Ottawa
has
been
experiencing
weather
events
that
are
significantly
stronger
and
more
frequent
than
they
have
been
in
the
past.
In
turn,
we
are
seeing
large
areas
of
the
city
lose
power
for
more
than
just
a
few
hours.
These
power
outages
extend
to
our
street
lights
and
our
traffic
lights,
and
in
some
areas
this
makes
them
driving
at
night.
E
Extremely
hazardous
I
would
like
to
ask
that
staff
look
into
what
options
might
be
available
to
us
to
help
make
the
intersections
more
visible
and
safe
during
a
power
outage.
I
would
also
like
to
know
if
staff
can
provide
an
estimated
estimated
cost
of
adding
additional
reflective
tape
to
our
traffic
intersections
traffic,
light
soy
and
intersections
in
the
intern,
or
is
there
a
possible
permanent
solution
to
help
ensure
the
traffic
singles
are
visible
during
power
outages,
which
will
increase
safety
for
Motors
and
pedestrians
and
Mr
Mayor?
E
E
So
you
know,
according
to
the
rules
of
the
dryer
driving
rules,
you
should
treat
it
as
a
four-way
stop
I
just
think
we
have
to
do
a
little
more
for
the
intersections,
where
there
is
no
tape,
because
I
I
honestly
witnessed
it
firsthand
where
cars
just
blew
through
the
intersections
and
I'd
like
to
think
it's,
because
they
couldn't
see
the
lights
and
just
weren't
recklessly
driving
during
the
storm.
So
is
this.
So
is
this
an
inquiry
I'm
putting
in
hoping
we
get
a
an
answer
back
and
appreciate
that.
B
AG
AH
Hi
everybody
I'm
actually
hoping
for
some
thoughts
Reflections
on
the
housing
bill
from
last
Friday.
If
Thursday
I
guess
it
was
the
fourth
housing
bill
in
Ontario
and
it
discusses
a
lot
about
well,
the
criticisms,
at
least
so
far,
is
that
we
could
encroach
more
on
Farmland,
more
housing
in
rural
areas.
I
wonder
perhaps
I'll
go
to
you
first
on
just
like
first
thoughts
at
seeing
this.
There
was
a
lot
in
there
and
what
you
think
it
might
mean
for
the
city
just
given
that
bill
23
passed
in
December.
L
Thanks
yeah
there's
a
lot
there
we're
we're
diving
into
it.
There's
proposed
changes
to
the
site
plan
limits
on
the
10
units
or
less
maybe
pulling
back
a
little
bit
in
sensitive
areas.
There's
a
new
PPS,
that's
being
a
provincial
policy
statement,
that's
being
consulted
on
rental
replacement,
a
lot
of
changes
that
were
released
Thursday
before
the
long
weekend.
So,
as
you
can
imagine,
we're
just
starting
to
dive
into
it.
L
AH
Perhaps
to
you
may
or
suck
left
them,
because
there's
also
I
mean
you
could
do
an
urban
boundary
change
at
any
time
or
like
just
changes
there,
that
that
change.
That
relationship
with
the
province
and
also
I,
see
you
know
ministerial
zoning
orders
Etc
in
various
places
where
the
minister
could
just
impose
something
on
the
city.
I
wonder
what
your
thoughts
are
on
that
just
the
development
of
the
relationship
in
terms
of
urban
planning,
especially
given.
AH
B
So
I
don't
have
a
lot
to
add
to
what
Don
said:
I
we're
still
taking
a
look
at
at
everything
and
what
the
implications
are
and
we'll
probably
have
more
to
say
about
it
later,
and
we
continue
to
work
closely
with
the
provincial
government
and
we
share
the
goal
of
building
more
homes.
But
in
terms
of
the
details
of
this
side,
we're
gonna,
you
know,
I
want
to
hear
what
staff
have
to
say
and
what
the
implications
are
before.
I
comment
in
more
detail:
okay,.
B
R
AF
AF
B
X
L
Thanks
for
the
question,
so
yeah
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
since
the
you
know.
The
tree
cutting
incident
in
terms
of
is
that
a
normal
firm
practice
so
we're
there
is
this
board
that's
been
set
up
to.
You
know,
there's
some
discussion
today
around
that,
so
we're
going
to
be,
you
know
trying
to
find
out
from
the
board.
L
You
know
if
there's
any
direction,
past
precedent,
we're
gonna,
be
Consulting
with
the
ministry
of
agricultural
Agricultural
and
Rural
Affairs,
the
provincial
Ministry,
who
are
responsible
for
agriculture
if
they
can
give
us
any
guidance
in
terms
of
the
normal
Farm
practices.
Aspect
of
this
whole
discussions.
We're
also
looking
at
other
municipalities
that
you
know
have
been
faced
with
this
in
the
past
and
if
they
have
any
guidelines
that
would
help
the
city
inform
its
tree
tree
bylaw
approach
in
the
future.
AD
Real
quick
follow
up
on
that.
Do
you
know
if
it's
actually
going
to
be
possible?
There
is
a
question
raised
today,
but
there
is
a
formal
process,
of
course,
of
going
to
the
board
that
that's
not
what
what
is
happening
here.
What's
your
proposing
with
consultation
like
do
you
know
if
this
tribunal
will
even
like
how
that
would
work,
how,
if
they're
open
to
doing
this.
L
Yeah,
as
legal
indicated,
we
don't
it
is
set
up
as
more
of
a
dispute
resolution
system,
but
with
other
boards
there's,
you
know
the
potential
of
talking
to
the
caseworker.
You
know
the
administration
that
supports
that
board
to
see
if
we
can
glean
any
insights
there
and
we'll
also
be
talking
as
I
mentioned,
to
the
the
governing
Ministry.
In
terms
of
you
know
the
the
provincial
Ministry
responsible
for
agriculture
to
see
what
insights
we
we
can
gain
there
based
on
other
experiences
they've
had
across
the
province.
AI
X
X
X
X
B
On
a
hotel
yeah,
so
you
know,
as
I've
said
many
times,
I
support,
Economic
Development
I
support
the
airport,
I
support
the
tourism
sector,
the
visitor
economy.
I.
Just
don't
think
this
is
the
way
to
do
it
and
I've
I've
said
many
times,
including
during
the
election
campaign
that
I
don't
support
taxpayers
money
going
to
specific
private
businesses
and
I
think
we
saw
during
the
council
meeting
today
very
strong
arguments
that
were
presented
on
both
sides.