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Ottawa City Council and Media Availability
Date: Wednesday, March 1, 2023
B
E
F
G
As
we
begin
our
meeting
today
and
on
behalf
of
Ottawa
city
council
I
wish
to
acknowledge
that
Ottawa
is
built
on
unseated
anishinaabe,
Algonquin
territory.
The
peoples
of
the
anishinaabe
Algonquin
Nation,
have
lived
on
this
territory
for
Millennia
their
culture
and
presence
have
nurtured
and
continue
to
nurture
this
land.
The
city
of
Ottawa
honors,
the.
H
After
the
adoption
of
the
budget
2023,
we
will
start
working
on
putting
together
these
strategies
for
our
mandate.
We
will
dive
into
the
Strategic
review
of
the
program
and
services
thanking
all
memorable
members
of
council
for
your
collaboration
during
this
process.
Over
the
past
several
weeks,
you've
brought
forward
several
questions
and
suggestions
about
the
budget
I'm
in
the
middle
of
thanking
you,
councilor
Menard,
so
I'm
thanking
counselors
right
now
and
you're
you're,
not
listening.
I
want
you
to
hear
this.
H
So
I
want
to
thank
all
counselors
for
the
work
that
we've
done
to
resolve
issues,
bring
forward
suggestions
and
improve
the
budget.
Several
of
the
veteran
counselors
have
commented
to
me
that
the
process
has
felt
very
different
this
year
and
I'm
gratified
to
hear
that
I
think
we
have
clearly
demonstrated
that
we
have
brought
change
to
City
Hall.
The
change
that
our
residents
expected
of
us
I
also
want
to
thank
the
thousands
of
residents
who.
B
H
B
The
engagement
of
standing
committees
and
the
support
of
staff
when
the
budget
was
tabled.
I
said
it
was
not
about
numbers,
but
about
people
and
their
priorities.
I'm
pleased
that
that
sentiment
has
been
reflected
in
our
thinking
and
our
work
throughout
the
past
month
at
City
Hall
and
as
a
result
of
that
work,
there
are
a
number
of
changes
that
are
directed
at
making
life
better
for
our
residents,
while
respecting
how
the
budget
impacts
the
pocketbooks
of
people
facing
the
current
affordability
crisis.
B
J
B
City's
tax
revenues
are
increasing
by
4.7
percent.
This
does
not
mean
that
every
motion
put
before
Council
today
will
receive
unanimous
support,
but
I
believe
we
all
share
the
same
goal
of
maintaining
and
creating
affordability
for
our
residents
and
improving
city
services.
I
want
to
thank
our
interim
city
manager,
Wendy
Stephenson
and
acting
Chief
Financial
Officer
Cyril
Rogers
and
his
team
for
their
tireless
efforts
in
supporting
Council
through
the
budget
process.
B
A
They
have
resulted
in
a
lot
of
solutions
and
motions
that
will
be
considered
today,
based
on
feedback
occurred
from
across
the
city.
Staff
worked
under
Council
direction
to
assemble
a
budget
that
balances
needs
across
the
city,
while
ensuring
the
city
doesn't
add
to
the
burden
on
families
with
a
significant
tax
increase.
This
process
has
been
very
good,
but
it
hasn't
been
perfect,
particularly
because
the
first
budget
after
an
election
must
be
completed
on
a
short
timetable.
A
There's
no
question
that
this
is
a
tight
budget
and
without
the
appropriate
level
of
support
from
our
provincial
and
federal
governments,
we
will
have
significant
pressures
on
our
finances
next
year
and
Beyond,
particularly
in
areas
like
Transit
and
infrastructure.
I
want
to
reiterate
my
commitment
to
working
with
other
levels
of
government
to
address
the
pressures
we're
facing
today
and
that
we
will
face
in
the
future.
This
will
be
a
primary
focus
of
my
work,
moving
into
the
2024
budget
process,
I'm.
A
Looking
forward
to
the
discussions
today
and
I
hope
that
you
will
support
this
budget
I
believe
it
is
both
fiscally
responsible
and
compassionate
I
believe
it
is
balanced
and
affordable
I
believe
it
respects
our
residents
and
reflects
our
priorities.
I
also
believe
it
proves
that
all
of
us
can
work
together,
collaboratively
productively
and
effectively
to
build
a
better
City
for
everyone.
A
Thank
you
all
again
and
I'll
now
ask
the
deputy
clerk
to
do
the
Roll
Call
councilor
counselor
dudas,
EC,
councilor
Hill,
president
counselor
Curry,
here
councilor
Kelly,
president
counselor
Gower,
here
councilor
Kavanaugh,
here
councilor
Johnson,
here
counselor
Devine,
here
councilor
Bradley,
here,
councilor
Tooney
president,
you
see
counselor
King
here,
counselor
troster,
here,
councilor
leaper,
here
councilor
Brockington,
here
councilman,
here,
counselor
Carr,
here
councilor
kits
here,
councilor
derus
here,
sir
Brown
here,
counselor
derush,
counselor,
Hubley,
counselor
Lowe,
here
Sutcliffe
here
you
have
a
quorum
Mr
Mayor!
Thank
you.
A
A
Your
Worship,
in
accordance
with
sections
five
and
six
of
the
municipal
conflict
of
interest
act
by
councilor,
Ralston
King,
declare
a
potential
indirect
pecuniary
interest
on
the
following
portion
of
the
2023
draft
operating
and
capital
budget,
as
I
am
on
the
board
of
the
Rito
winter
trail
of
Ottawa,
an
organization
which,
via
the
winter
Trail
Alliance,
would
receive
funding
from
or
would
potentially
receive,
funding
from
this
budget
line
item
Recreation
cultural
and
facility
services,
community
recreation,
culture
and
sports
program,
community
recreation
and
cultural
programs,
page
25
of
the
CSC
budget
book.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Counselor
Gower,
counselor,
luloff,
okay,
Mr,
Mayor,
I'm,
Matthew
love
declare
a
potential
deemed
Community
interest
on
the
following
portions
of
the
2023
emergency
preparedness
and
protective
services
committee,
draft
operating
budget
emergency
and
protective
services,
fire
Services
operating
resource
requirement,
Communications
page
six
of
the
Epps
budget
book.
As
my
beautiful,
intelligent
and
patient
spouse
is
employed
by
versatility.
It's
not
funny.
A
It's
true
is
employed
by
a
versatility
term,
Public
Safety,
a
software
firm
that
provides
services
to
Ottawa
fire
services
and
would
receive
funding
from
or
would
potentially
receive
funding
from
these
budget
line
items.
Thank
you.
Councilor,
luloff
and
I
understand
councilor
Brown.
You
have
a
point
of
privilege.
Yes,
thank
you
very
much.
A
Mr
Mayor
I
rise
in
a
point
of
personal
privilege
to
advise
counsel
in
advance
of
consideration
of
the
Ottawa
Police
Services
Board
budget
at
today's
meeting
to
acknowledge
that
my
sister
and
brother-in-law
are
employed
by
the
Ottawa
Police
Service
I've
consulted
with
the
Integrity
commissioner
and
confirmed
that
I
do
not
have
a
pecuniary
in
conflict
of
interest
under
the
municipal
conflict
of
interest
act,
but
wish
to
declare
the
relationship
to
provide
transparency
on
the
matter.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
A
Okay,
let's
move
to
there
are
no
regrets
as
I
understand
it.
So,
let's
move
to
item
six
motion
to
introduce
reports.
Counselor
dudas,
be
it
resolved
that
the
following
reports
be
received
and
considered
one.
The
report
from
the
finance
and
Corporate
Services
Department
titled
2023
draft
operating
in
capital
budgets.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
K
K
K
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
be
it
resolved
that
city
council
sitting
has
Committee
of
the
whole
receive
and
consider
the
draft
2023
operating
and
capital
budgets,
as
recommended
by
the
committee
of
adjustment,
crime
prevention,
Ottawa,
the
Ottawa
Police
Services
Board,
the
Ottawa
Public
Library
board,
the
Ottawa
Board
of
Health
and
by
the
standing
committees
and
Transit
Commission,
and
the
draft
2023
rate
supported
operating
and
capital
budget,
as
recommended
by
the
environment
and
climate
change
committee.
As
listed
in
the
council.
L
L
L
L
L
Obviously,
it's
been
a
tight
year
for
everybody
at
the
in
the
municipality,
including
opsb,
who's
impacted
by
the
less
than
inflationary
increases
for
2023,
but
I
think
it's
precisely
these
type
of
circumstances
that
we
need
to
really
dig
deep
on
where
we
allocate
funding
and
so
for
me.
I've
talked
a
lot
about
mental
health
response
teams.
I
know
we
want
to
advance
that
this
year,
but
a
15.2
million
dollar
increase
to
a
budget
where
we
have
difficulty
finding
money
for
things
like
pools.
Things
like
affordable
housing.
M
Obviously,
there's
a
lot
of
attrition
being
hired
back
here,
too
I
believe
in
about
70
other
officers.
If
I
understood
correctly
from
my
meetings
with
the
Police
Services
Board,
we
are
allocating
40
million
dollars
to
a
single
police
station
in
the
budget,
but
less
than
half
of
that
for
affordable
housing
across
the
city
on
the
capital.
You
know,
Returns
the
affordable
housing
capital
budget
really
shouldn't
bear
the
brunt
of
the
real
dollar
shortfalls
that
we've
got
in
inflation
and
so
housing
people
putting
downward
pressure
on
our
Ottawa
rental
market
prices.
M
Team
I
didn't
appreciate
the
response
from
the
chief
at
the
time
that
you
know
we
don't
we
oppose
transferring
money
from
the
police
services
budget
towards
mental
health
response
teams.
Well,
we
know
that
we'll
reduce
their
workload.
We've
seen
it
work
in
Toronto.
We
saw
that
work
in
Toronto
that
that
pilot
that
came
back
was
exemplary.
Now
we're
seeing
across
the
country
and
across
North
America,
we
can
shift
some
of
those
very
expensive
police
response,
resources
to
other
methods
that
work
better,
are
cheaper
and
have
better
outcomes
for
people
and
I.
M
Thank
you,
councilor
Menard,
councilor
Bradley.
Thank
you.
Mayor
I
just
had
a
question
around
the
efficiencies
that
you
found
in
this
year's
budget
and
I
know.
The
previous
board
had
said
a
fairly
high
efficiency
Target
that
that
was
not
met.
So
I'm
just
wondering
why
the
efficiencies
found
in
this
year's
budget
are
not
being
put
towards
that
Target,
but
being
reinvested
in
the
service
Mr
Mayor.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
So
yeah
the
last
years
in
2022,
there
was
a
very
aggressive
efficiency,
Target.
N
It
is
more
of
a
modest
efficiency
Target
that
was
set
this
year,
but
it
is
on
the
backs
of
the
last
decade
us
as
a
Police
Service
having
having
achieved
27
million
dollars
in
efficiencies.
So,
although
we
did
not
achieve
an
aggressive,
Target,
sorry
a
set
an
aggressive
Target
this
year,
we
have
achieved
it
and
we
are
looking
at
ways
in
this
budget
year
to
find
more
efficiencies
within
our
service
areas
in
years
to
come.
N
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
I
guess.
The
question,
though,
was
why
the
efficiencies
from
this
year
were
not
were
reinvested
as
opposed
to
being
put
towards
that
Target.
So,
did
you
not
feel
that
you
could
put
that
towards
the
the
Target
that
was
set
in
the
previous
year
I'm
going
to
apologize,
but
there
was
clicking
in
my
ear,
just
as
the
important
part
of
the
question
came
through
so
can
you
ask
it
again.
N
Was
you
you
had
found
some
efficiencies
in
this
year's
budget
and
instead
of
putting
it
towards
the
efficiency
Target
that
was
set
in
the
previous
year?
You
reinvested
in
the
service
and
I'm
just
wondering
why
you
felt
that
you
needed
to
reinvest
those
dollars
as
opposed
to
put
it
towards
the
efficiency
targets
from
the
previous
year
Well,
we
believe,
we've
well.
We
know
we've
found
other
Solutions
to
make
up
for
previous
the
previous
year
shortfall,
so
in
finding
the
1.5
million
that
existed
still
and.
M
M
Mayor
I
will
also
be
dissenting
on
this
item
for
many
of
the
same
reasons
that
counselor
Menard
articulated
I
like
to
say
what
we
fund
tells
us
who
we
are,
and
those
of
us
who
have
been
fighting
desperately
to
get
an
increase
in
our
Capital,
spend
for
affordable
housing
and
I
am
happy
to
say,
there's
motions
coming
forward
today
that
will
make
some
movement
in
that
direction.
It
is
felt
like
fighting
for
scraps.
M
Again
so
I
will
say:
I
have
been
encouraged
with
some
of
the
recent
attempts
for
the
Convoy
to
return
and
the
level
of
communication
from
police
and
Emergency
Services
has
certainly
been
much
better,
but
I
don't
think
we're
there
yet
and
I,
don't
think
the
faith
in
my
community
is
particularly
high
in
the
Ottawa
Police
Service
right
now,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
so.
Thank
you.
Very
much.
I
will
also
be
dissenting.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
and
thank
you
Chief
Stubbs
and
thank
you
D.C
Chief
Bell
for
being
here.
I
I
will
also
be
dissenting
on
the
police
budget,
but
not
at
all,
because
I
don't
believe
that
the
Ops
provides
an
essential
service.
I
absolutely
do
believe
that
the
Ops
provides
an
essential
service.
The
concern
I
have
for
me
the
questions.
O
I
have
is
whether
or
not
everything
that
the
Ops
is
currently
doing
is
appropriate.
Work
for
the
Ops
and
I
think
that
the
Ops
themselves
recognize
that
more
work
can
and
should
be
done
by
other
forces.
I
had
been
hoping
that
Police
Services
Board
as
last
year
would
have
directed
some
resources
away.
That
did
not
happen
this
year,
I've
been
hoping
for
it.
O
It
was
interesting
to
note
in
the
and
I
was
so
appreciative
that
the
Ops
did
a
consultation
did
a
poll
which
was
a
a
solid
poll,
and
it
was
interesting
to
note
that
it
seemed
like
50
percent
in
of
the
surveys
were
looking
for.
More
policing
and
50
were
not,
and
that
enough
that
lack
of
clarity
of
of
a
public
desire
for
greater
investment
is
enough
for
me
to
sense
that
perhaps
the
level
of
investment
that
is
being
placed
is
is
not
necessarily
warranted.
O
The
police
is
not
always
the
solution
to
that,
and
so
I
am
looking
to
see
feet
if
I
can
find
other
ways,
perhaps
in
the
2024
budget.
To
do
that
and
just
finally
I
mean
we
all
know
that
we
are
in
a
tight
budget
year
and
in
a
tight
budget
year.
As
you
know,
many
of
my
colleagues
say
we
need
to
make
difficult
decisions
and,
whereas
I
can
understand,
the
the
long-term
need
of
a
policing
station
in
in
Bar
Haven
is
in
the
need.
O
There's
such
a
significant
capital
investment
in
this
budget
for
that
police
station
right
now
that,
at
a
time
when
we're
making
such
tough
decisions
on
other
things
that
are,
admittedly
across
the
city,
an
emergency,
it
doesn't
feel
like
the
emergency
being
stated
in
the
police
budget
Rises
to
the
same
level
of
urgency
of
our
other
needs,
and
so
for
that
reason,
while
I
I
support
what
the
Ops
does
I
just
can't
support
the
the
increase
in
the
budget.
Thank
you.
O
N
The
finance
and
audit
committee
meeting
recently
raised
again
and
I
want
to
get
a
better
understanding
of
how
resources
will
be
perhaps
realigned
this
year
and
that's
regarding
how
neighborhood
police
officers
engage
communities
that
they're
assigned
to
I've
talked
about
the
neighborhood
response.
Teams
and
I've
talked
about
the
role
of
community
police
officers.
Both.
G
And
change
has
been
what
I
think
is:
opportunities
for
better
cohesion
and
and
collaboration
between
nrts,
that
are
assigned
to
specific
neighborhoods
and
the
community.
The
role
of
the
community
police
officers
and
I've
talked
about
how
priorities
of
these
units
are
determined.
Basically,
they
are
assigned
to
serve
particular
neighborhoods
and
there's
a
growing
appetite
for
communities
to
be
better
engaged
and
consulted
on
what
those
needs
are.
This
really
is
a
partnership
right.
G
This
was
unraveled
or
unveiled
by
the
police
as
a
partnership
in
communities
where
all
parties
need
to
work
together
for
the
betterment
of
communities
and
since
I've
raised
this
a
number
of
times,
I
just
want
to
give
the
chief
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
his
vision
for
the
nrts.
Whether
resources
will
be
realigned
to
reflect
the
concerns
they've
been
bringing
to
the
police's
attention.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor.
G
P
Focusing
on
the
specific
issues
that
the
community
feels
are
important
in
those
and
those
individual
neighborhoods,
and
there's
no
doubt
that
all
our
nrt
teams
should
have
separate
priorities.
They'll
be
crossover,
I'm
sure
in
some,
but
it
should
be
specific
to
those
neighborhoods
and
and
that
really
is
the
vision.
Isn't
it
it's
it's
about
engaging
at
a
hot
in
an
in-depth
level
of.
M
What
they
should
be
doing,
where
should
they
be
spending
their
time
and
what
they
should
be
doing?
What
level
of
enforcement,
what
level
of
community
engagement?
What
level
of
diversion
all
of
those
programs
that
we
run
can
be
catered
to?
Those
particular
to
those
particular
neighborhoods
superintendent
Bryden
is
in
charge
of
the
neighborhood
resource
team
and
I
know
in
2023.
Q
Bryden
Advocates
greatly
for
for
those
teams,
the
value
is
immeasurable.
They
often
do
get
detracted
or
from
their
substantive
duties
when
they
have
to
work.
You
know
protests
or
major
events
that
come
in
and
that
Focus
isn't
100
and
that's
where
I
really
need
I
want
them
to
be
100
focused
on
their
particular
neighborhoods
and
that's
just
not
reality.
They
end
up
getting
diverted.
Q
So
that's
something
that
we
have
to
try
to
avoid
as
much
as
we
can
so
I'm,
looking
forward
to
working
with
superintendent,
Bryden
and
and
his
team,
as
they
you
know,
get
into
those
different
neighborhoods
and
certainly
I
want
to
specifically
attend
a
couple
of
those
myself.
So
I
can
hear
the
conversation
and
hear
how
those
priorities
are
being
developed
just
so
I
hear
from
myself
as
well.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
and
thank
you
chief
for
that
I
appreciate
that
and
look
forward
to
greater
opportunities
this
year
with
the
Ops.
Q
Thank
you
very
much.
Mayor
I
can't
support
this
budget
this
year,
because
I
haven't
seen
anything
that
is
concrete
in
terms
of
mental
health,
supports
and
I.
Think
that
was
incredibly
important
when
I
look
at
the
concerns.
In
my
own
word
and
across
the
city,
many
of
the
calls
are
related
to
Social
Service
concerns
such
as
you
know,
problems
with
people
breaking
into
cars,
Etc.
Looking
for
petty
change,
things
like
that,
but
the
bigger
calls
on
mental
health
concerns
people
still
feel
that
they
don't
have.
They
don't
really
want
to
call
the
police.
Q
Because
I
do
believe
that's
what
people
want
we've
had
cases
of
of
of
persons
that
are
are
obviously
have
issues,
and
we
know
that
they're
not
necessarily
dangerous,
yet
they
still
they
need
mental
health
supports.
They
need
a
specialist
to
help
them
in
when,
when
there's
an
emergency
call-
and
it's
not
just
happening
downtown-
it's
happening
all
over
so
I
want
to
know.
If
that
is
what
is
being
looked
at
solidly
for
2024.
Q
R
Progress
has
been
made,
Miss
Donna
gray
is
beside
me
here
and
she
is
leading
a
team
that
is
working
towards
a
pilot
that
is
similar
to
a
Toronto
model
and
I
I
might
even
defer
to
miss
gray.
If
she
wants
to
talk
more
about
that,
but
we
are
participating
in
that
group
and-
and
we
are
investing-
you
know-
I
will
say
we
are
paying.
There
has
been
money
taking
deferred
from
our
budget
to
this
to
the
topic
of
mental
health
from
previous
city
councils.
R
Over
two
million
dollars
is
actively
in
the
community,
and
agencies
are
working
to
provide
that
service
their
individual
service.
We
are,
in
fact,
as
well
looking
on
a
call
deferral
program
ourselves
within
our
own
dispatch.
We
are
also
looking
to
hire
and
put
full-time
a
mental
health
support
worker
into
our
Dispatch
Center,
where
they
can
call
or
I'm
sorry
Speak
directly
to
people
that
are
in
crisis
and
try
to
de-escalate
them
or
defer
them
right
away
or
wait
until
police
does
do
get
there.
R
B
Mr
Mayor
to
miss
gray
or
maybe
when
it's
her
turn
to
talk,
I'm,
not
sure
the
protocol.
There
sure
I
think
that's
a
good
idea.
There
I
know:
they're
Donna
gray
spoke
yesterday
at
the
community
and
Social
Services
meeting
and
it,
and
there
have
been
a
number
of
questions
from
counselors
about
the
prospect
of
accelerating
the
implementation
of
a
of
a
pilot.
O
O
I
know
in
his
early
days
he's
made
that
a
priority
to
participate
and
to
start
to
guide
the
work
of
The,
Guiding
Council
and
the
work
that
the
team's
doing
and
really
excited
to
be
advancing
the
work
and
where
we've
gotten
today
in
terms
of
an
alternate
response
and
I
think
at
committee.
What
you
heard
yesterday
was
escalating
what
we
could
do
in
2023
with.
S
Moving
to
an
alternate
response-
and
so
the
first
piece
that
Chief
Stubbs
spoke
about
just
right
now-
is
about
training
dispatch
officers.
Putting
mental
health
supports
into
the
call
center
as
the
first
9-1-1
starting
to
understand
and
build
the
correct
algorithms
that
we
can
start
to
divert
the
calls
and
understand
the
types
of
calls
that
need
to
go
with
police
support
and
what
we're
doing
now
is
building
with
our
EMS
and
9-1-1
partners
and
with
police
a
fourth
option.
M
M
2023
you'll
really
see
the
full
package
of
investment
that
will
help
you
understand
where
those
investments
will
go
so
that
we
have
a
correct
mental
health
response,
and
that
is
work
that
we
are
doing
very
much
in
Partnership
as
Community
safety
and
well-being
advisory,
which
also
has
Public
Health
around
that
table
the
school
boards
and
and
another
a
number
of
community
organizations
and
then
at
the
very
Grassroots
team,
The
Guiding
Council,
which
has
all
mental
health
practitioners
in
the
city.
Building
that
response.
M
T
Thank
you,
Donna.
Thank
you,
councilor
Kavanaugh,
councilor
Brown.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Mayor
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
our
Police
Service
to
hear
at
least
a
voice
of
compliment
and
I
am
very
proud
to
have
two
members
of
my
family,
who
are
members
of
the
Ottawa
Police
Service
I.
Think
the
Ottawa
Police
Service
does
an
excellent
job
under
very
tough
conditions,
providing
service
to
our
communities.
I
think
that
the
unhelpful
rhetoric
around
robbing
Peter
to
pay
Paul
in
terms
of
providing
additional
funding
to
social
services
at
the.
O
S
D
Are
assets
to
our
community
and
certainly
the
Ottawa
Police
Services
Board
members
do
a
great
job
in
their
role
and,
lastly,
Mr
Mayor
I
would
say
if
there
are
members
of
our
Council
that
wish
to
see
fewer
police
resources
in
their
communities.
Ward
21
stands
ready
to
accept
an
increased
level
of
policing
services
in
the
ward
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
the
top
of
that
list.
If
there's
any
redeployment,
that's
going
to
happen.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Mayor!
D
Thank
you.
Councilor
Brown,
councilor
Lowe.
Thank
you
and
I.
I
have
very
similar
sentiments
as
counselor
Brown
has
a
lot
of
the
doors
I
knocked
during
the
campaign
had
a
lot
of
concerns
that
would
require
an
actual
police
response,
but
my
question
for
for
I
guess
the
chief
or
or
the
deputy
chief
is
just
around
the
South,
the
new
South
police
station,
like
what
does
it
represent?
D
I'll,
let
Deputy
Bell
answer
a
lot
of
that
question,
but
you
know
I
think
what
it
represents.
Primarily.
Obviously
it's
been
an
issue
that
has
been
talked
about
amongst
the
police
board
in
the
Ops
for
well
over
a
decade
and
we're.
Finally,
at
a
point
where
we
want
to
move
and
and
execute
the
plan
that
has
been
developed
but
I
think
it's
a
strong
message
as
well
to
the
southern
part
of
Ottawa
that
has
grown
in
population,
a
significant
amount
and
we
do
need
a
presence
in
that
area.
D
The
buildings
that
service
the
southern
part
of
of
Ottawa.
You
know
the
green
Bank.
The
lead
trim
are
very
old
they're,
not
they're,
not
workable
for
us
anymore
in
terms
of
Renovations
and
whatnot,
so
that
that
presence,
I
think
is
very
important
for
for
the
community
and
for
our
membership
to
ensure
that
they're
in
a
location
where
they
can
respond
to
the
community's
needs
in
a
timely
manner.
We'll
pass
over
to
to
Deputy
Bell
for
for
more
comments.
Thank
you
Chief.
D
So,
as
the
chief
indicated,
I
think,
the
the
first
and
foremost
opportunity
that
it
gives
the
city
in
terms
of
policing
is
is
a
geographical
location
where
police
officers
can
deploy
from
that
in
itself
means
that
they
are
more
readily
available
for
calls
for
service
within
the
area
that
they're
responsible
for
right.
Now,
our
our
stations
are
positioned
to
the
West
Central
at
Leitrim,
but
in
more
Northerly
area.
D
South
Division
will
allow
us
to
position
ourselves
so
that
we
have
that
South
area
of
the
city
better
better
geographically
covered
for
deployment,
as
well
as
meet
the
needs
of
the
growth
that
is
anticipated
in
our
city
around
that
area.
Beyond
that,
it
will
be
a
fully
functional
police
station
that
will
have
the
deployment
options
from
it,
but
it
will
also
have
front
desk
Services.
It
will
have
the
ability
for
people
to
report
crimes
and
or
report
collisions
in
the
area.
N
And
if,
in
the
end,
that
building
ends
up
achieving
savings
like
operational
savings
from
retiring
to
Old,
buildings,
I
think
ending
releases
of
two
other
buildings.
Where
would
that
money
ultimately
go
so
as
part
of
our
facility's
strategic
plan,
we've
forecasted
out
our
facilities
needs
for
the
next
15
years,
South
Division
will
what
if
it's
approved
and
built
we'll
come
online
in
2026,
2026
Leitrim
will
come
offline
for
us
in
2027,
green
bank
will
come
offline
for
us
as
part
of
the
facility
strategic
plan.
N
M
V
Mayor
I
guess
I'll
be
the
first
around
the
table,
I
want
to
say
to
the
not
just
to
the
Chief
and
the
deputy
chief,
but
to
all
the
men
and
women
of
the
Ottawa
Police
Service.
Thank
you
for
what
you
do
for
our
community
for
your
service,
the
long
hours
and
the
effort
that's
put
in
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
especially
the
front
line
officers
know
that
they
are
supportive
and
so
I
appreciate
your
efforts
here.
V
I
think
Mr,
Mayor
I,
hear
the
concerns
of
some
of
my
colleagues
about
the
mental
health
calls
I
share
those
concerns.
I
absolutely
do
believe.
We
need
to
do
something
about
it.
I
just
I
prefer
the
Donna
gray
option.
Instead
of
funding
it
from
the
police.
I
think
we
have
to
find
the
funding
and
work
with
our
partners
to
make
sure
that
proper
mental
health
response
is
available,
that
the
police
can
use,
or
maybe
the
police
don't
even
have
to
be
involved
in
a
lot
of
those
calls.
V
Thank
you,
counselor
Hubley,
just
a
quick
follow-up
on
that.
Donna.
If
you
don't
mind,
do
we
I
at
one
point
I,
remember
somebody
raising
the
fact
that
there
are
other
sources
of
potential
funding
for
other
projects
and
that
sort
of
thing
is
that
not
is
that
not
the
case
with
regard
to
potentially
going
to
the
provincial
government
for
some
support
on
this?
M
W
B
M
V
On
something
as
complex
as
this
I
I
applaud
the
initiative
and
I
respect
the
fact
that
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
very
complex
issue.
My
concern
is
one
of
risk
exposure
to
the
city
in
the
in
the
the
diversion
to
mental
health
calls
and
our
service
model
and
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
that.
What's
the
risk.
M
That
the
city
is
going
to
be
exposed
to,
from
the
perspective
of
you,
know,
sending
a
mental
health,
professional
or
a
team
that
are
not
perhaps
security
oriented
into
a
scenario
where
they
could
perhaps
find
themselves
in
a
vulnerable
situation,
and
so
are
we
are
we
dealing
with
that
from
a
liability
or
an
insurance
perspective,
and
what
does
that
model?
Look
like
from
a
budget
23
perspective.
M
Thank
you,
councilor
Hill,
Mr,
Mayor
I'll.
Let
the
liability
risks
High,
perhaps
with
Miss
gray,
I
I
will
say
that
there
is
risk,
the
every
call
will
be
triaged
and
that
risk
assessment
needs
to
occur
in
regards
to
the
circumstances
that
are
being
presented
by
the
person
in
crisis.
And
obviously
you
know
through
our
Dispatch
Center
as
well.
We
can
run
some
history.
Is
there
any
History
of
Violence
with
that
person
Etc?
V
The
actual
risk
and
liability,
perhaps
to
my
colleagues,
to
the
right.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
that's
an
excellent
question.
Counselor,
you
know
from
a
paramedic
perspective,
we're
heavily
involved
in
this
program
and
and
I
can
tell
you
that,
when
you're
trying
to
divert
calls
there's
algorithms
that
need
to
be
developed,
Toronto's
already
gone
through
some
of
this.
So
we'll
learn
from
their
experience.
V
But
you
know,
hopefully
we'll
reduce
the
risk
by
making
sure
we're
going
to
the
right
calls
and
anything
with
violence
or
or
threats
of
violence
would
obviously
include
our
police
Partners
in
the
response.
So
risk
is
what
we
do
from
a
response
perspective
and
we
always
analyze
that
and
I.
Think
that,
where
we're
at
right
now
is
is
doing
that
research
and
making
sure
that
we
have
the
right
algorithms
to
dispatch
the
right
resources
to
the
right
calls.
V
Y
Y
Thank
you,
counselor
Hill,
counselor
Curry.
Thank
you
just
a
few
comments
really
thank
you
all
for
such
important
comments
and
questions
and
thinking
on
this
because
I
guess
the
theme
I
guess
I
would
want
to
convey
is
stay
tuned
is.
Is
the
general
theme
there's
lots
of
work
to
be
done,
obviously,
to
ensure
that
we
have
the
right
response
and,
and
over
the
next
year,
I
really
encourage
all
counselors
to
watch
what
what
we
talk
about
at
our
Police
Services
Board
meetings,
because
these
will
be
the
very
topics.
M
Crimes
committed
the
change
in
that
crime
level.
All
of
that
is
to
come
and
what
the
Police
Services
Board
will
be
focused
on.
You
know
the
conversations
will
include
special
constables.
Will
we
use
special
constables
instead
of
police?
Will
we
use
the
Ottawa
Community
Housing
model
where
there
are
security
off
officers
instead
of
having
a
police
response?
All
of
these
things
will
be
what
we'll
be
looking
at.
I
guess.
M
The
topic
I
heard
a
lot
about
was
at
the
doors
and
even
at
this
meeting
here
right
now
is
neighborhood
resource
teams
and
I
guess
I
would
say
to
my
Council
colleagues
that
the
the
reality
is
those
things
cost
money
too.
You
know
to
make
sure
that
there
are
resource
teams
and
staffed
adequately
for
all
of
the
outlying
neighborhoods.
You
see
the
increase
in
crime
in
the
rural
areas.
M
I
had
an
email
today
about
a
Canada
store
more
than
one
can
add
a
store
that
now
is
only
admitting
one
person
at
a
time
because
they're
worried
about
crime
and
who
comes
in
the
door
that
they
can't
control.
So
when
those
types
of
things
happen,
you
think
a
neighborhood
resource
team
would
be
very
helpful
there,
but
there
may
be
not
staffed
adequately
to
be
able
to
respond
because
they're
in
other
areas,
I
would
notice.
W
W
Z
Or
thinking
it's
not
either
or
it's
both
and
how
do
we
make
that
happen
because
I
think
we
all
know
what
we
want
to
see
and-
and
maybe
aren't
quite
sure
right
now
about
what
that
will
cost,
but
I
think
you've
heard
from
many
people
here
today
how
important
this
entire
issue
is
to
everyone.
Police
Police,
Services,
Board,
City
staff
and
the
other
comment
I
will
make.
Is
the
Toronto
model
that
we'll
be
looking
at
very
carefully
was
funded
by
Toronto
City
Council?
Z
It
didn't
come
from
the
Police
Services
Board
budget
and
that's
a
really
important
thing
to
note.
It's
the
the
concept
of
it
having
to
come
from
police
services
budget
instead
of
coming
from
Council
I,
think
that
we
need
to
put
more
thought
into
for
the
budget
2024..
So
anyway,
I
really
appreciate
the
comments
and,
as
I
said
at
the
beginning,
stay
tuned
and
please
pay
attention
to
what's
happening
at
Police,
Services
Board,
because
I
think
we
are
all
thinking
the
same
thing
and
may
go
about
it
slightly
different
ways
and
with
different
timing.
Z
Z
AA
A
queen's
view
station
there's
going
to
be
a
transit
station
where
we're
looking
at
Transit
oriented
development.
This
is
a
property
that
the
city
leases
to
the
police
services
and
it
would
be
an
ideal
spot
for
affordable
housing
and
I
hope
that
you
will
consider
this,
because
this
would
be
a
very
strong
gesture
to
consider
finding
another
location
for
what
is
basically
an
administrative
office.
AA
So
it
could
be
anywhere
perhaps
amalgamating
with
other
services,
but
I'd
like
you
to
take
a
look
at
that,
because
this
is
is
something
that
would
be
crucial
for
creating
more
affordable
housing
in
the
future
in
an
ideal
location
right
beside
a
transit
station,
so
can
I
if
I
want
to
make
sure
you're
aware
of
that.
But
do
you
have
any
comments
mayor
through
to
councilor
Kavanaugh?
Certainly,
NADA
wasn't
I've
never
heard
that
proposal
before
or
that
that
perspective.
AA
So
certainly
we
can
take
that
away
and
and
examine
that
that
very
idea,
I
can
tell
you.
We
have
excellent
staff
at
the
city
for
real
estate
who
help
in
terms
of
if
you're,
at
least
with
the
city.
You
can
move
to
another
location
and
they're
they're
excellent
at
doing
this.
It's
kind
of
our
own
Re,
Max
team,
again
the
city
but
I,
strongly
suggest
you
look
at
it.
AA
AA
O
O
Thank
you
Chief.
Did
you
want
to
respond
to
that?
Please
just
briefly.
Thank
you.
Councilor
derosha
and
for
starters,
I
do
have
intentions.
I
know,
Deputy
Bell
did
the
bulk
of
the
consultations
with
the
counselors
through
this
tight
budget
season.
I
do
have
intentions
of
visiting
each
ward
in
each
counselor
throughout
the
summer
months,
sort
of
in
the
non-budget
season.
So
there's
not
such.
B
That
press
of
of
getting
through
all
of
those
meetings
so
I
thank
you
for
the
invite
to
Riverside,
South
and
I'll
be
sure
to
get
there.
There's
no
doubt
and
I
understand
your
message
of
people
on
the
road
they
need
to
be
on
the
road.
That
presence
is
key,
something
I
support
and
I've
always
supported.
AA
AA
B
M
Q
The
thoughts
we
do,
we
have
formed
an
auto
task,
a
task
force
group
that
is
targeting
and
examining.
What's
going
on
here
in
Ottawa,
in
particular,
I
will
say
this
as
as
a
bit
of
great
work
that
occurred.
There
was
a
a
theft
of
a
vehicle
last
night
and
our
our
team
responded
very
quickly
and
swarmed,
a
certain
area
to
try
to
locate
the
vehicle
and
located
the
vehicle,
leaving
town
towards.
B
Q
Great
bit
of
work,
they
are
they're
very
tuned
in
and
they're
upset
about
this.
The
police
officers
in
the
field
are
upset
that
this
is
happening.
It's
very
sophisticated,
very
organized
and
they're
having
success
around
the
province
and
we
as
a
group,
as
an
industry
of
police
agencies,
have
to
work
together
to
try
to
stop
thanks
Chief.
That's
encouraging
we're
very
good
at
writing
letters,
so
the
mayor's
very
good
at
writing
letters
here.
Q
B
AB
You're
bringing
to
the
work
that
you're
doing
I'd
be
happy
to
sort
of
champion
that
at
the
council
table
I'll
be
supporting
your
budget.
I
think
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
I'm,
I'm
I
think
it's
promising
that
you're
talking
about
bringing
a
lot
of
innovation
and
aligning
what
I
think
are
the
expectations
of
the
public
to
have
a
very
modern
and
very
professional
police
force.
So
thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
alplant.
AB
We
merci
beaucoup.
Thank
you
so
much
we
we
made
in
we
haven't
asked
with
the
federal
government.
We
requested
extra
sums
because
of
the
protests,
so
people
are
coming
here
in
Ottawa.
They
have
the
right
to
protest,
but
most
of
the
time
they're
protesting
against
the
federal
government,
but
we
need
locals
to
manage
these
protests.
So
where
are
we
with
this
demand?
How
can
we
manage
this
situation?
AB
AB
AB
It's
a
municipal
cost
as
well,
potentially
provincial,
potentially
Federal
as
well
too,
and
there
is
active
meetings
that
are
being
held
with
those
levels
of
government
and
I
can
tell
you
that
we
are
working
very
well
together
amongst
the
agencies,
the
Parliamentary
Precinct,
the
director,
Larry
brookson
and
Nevada
and
I
have
met
on
a
number
of
occasions.
The
opp
we're
working
very
close
with,
as
well
as
the
RCMP
and
I've
seen.
AC
The
Convoy
anniversary
events,
if
you
will,
and
as
we're
going
into
St
Patrick's
Day
and
a
potential
visit
by
the
the
President
of
the
U.S,
that
is
coming
very
quickly
without
full
confirmation
of
all
the
details.
We're
working
very
well
with
those
agencies,
but
it
is
very
costly
and
it
is
something
that
we
just
can't
keep
up
with
that
workload.
AA
So
we
are
actively
pursuing
that
Messi
concer
plants,
counselor
Johnson.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Mayor
I
just
wanted
to
I
wasn't
planning
on
speaking,
but
then,
when
counselor
Curry
chose
to
speak
I,
it
was
really
coming
alive.
For
me
what
I
wanted
to
contribute
to
the
conversation?
So
I
will
be
voting
against
this
budget
today
because
of
all
of
the
exciting
things
to
come.
AA
I
I
do
believe
we
are
looking
forward
to
2024
and
I
did
have
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
Steve
Bell
and
we
were
able
to
discuss
the
ideas
of
multi-year
budgeting
in
order
to
tell
the
story,
but
I
do
think.
We
need
to
look
at
the
performance
indicators
that
are
most
of
interest
to
the
community.
What
are
the
police
doing
that?
They
are
supposed
to
be
doing.
My
car
was
stolen,
August
19th
from
my
front
driveway
like
I
get
it.
Q
For
them
to
to
make
sure
that
everyone
feels
safe
and
so
I'll
be
voting
against
this
budget
today,
because
I
believe
that
we
can
do
better
to
tell
the
story
about
what
response
is
appropriate
at
what
time
and
I
know
that
my
Council
colleagues
are
working
hard
on
the
police
services
or
to
try
and
make
this
happen.
So
I
I
wanted
to
be
able
to
articulate
that
I
will
be
voting
against
this
budget
in
anticipation
of
what
we
can
see
for
2024..
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilor
Johnson,
councilor
Menard.
Q
AD
Support
for
mental
health
response
appreciate
that
those
words
as
well
as
a
lot
of
other
colleagues
who
understand
the
value
of
that,
and
just
just
in
conversation,
just
seeing
this
conversation
here,
I've
circulated
emotion
from
Miss
author
McDonald
that
would
allow
for
a
500
000
offset
into
mental
health
response
teams.
I
know.
As
a
council,
we
want
to
accelerate
that
program.
We've
previously
invested
550
000
in
the
past.
This
would
almost
double
that
amount.
AE
Q
Percentage
that
has
been
identified
in
the
police
budget
onto
the
Professional
Services
efficiencies,
so
they
identified
their
efficiencies.
This
is
something
that
we
can
come
back
with
and
say:
look
let's
Advance
alternative
call
response
and
mental
health.
If
you
believe
in
alternative
conscious
mental
health
response
and
Outreach
teams,
we're.
AE
AE
I
hope
that
there
we
can
support
this.
It
is
a
very
modest
amount
compared
to
the
larger
Police
Services
Board
this
as
far
as
I
understand
it,
given
the
efficiencies
that
have
been
found
to
the
reduction
to
Professional
Services,
which
is
on
page
122
of
the
Auto
police
services
operating
budget.
This
is
something
that
I
think
we,
as
accounts,
will
need
to
Signal.
We
care
about
this
priority.
It's
a
small
amount
of
money
to
transfer
over
and
it'll,
almost
double.
AE
What
we've
previously
put
into
this,
that
we
know
we're
going
to
need
in
2023
and
2024
I've
heard
mayor
I,
know,
we've
said:
let's
accelerate
this
program
and
to
get
a
program
like
this
started,
you
you
need
to
finance,
and
it's
not
just
in
one
particular
Ward.
This
is
right
across
the
city
right.
Every
Ward
could
use
this.
Every
Ward
gets.
Mental
health
calls
every
single
one,
and
so,
let's
make
sure
that
that
we're
allocating
this
across
the
city
and
that
we
invest
in
a
priority
for
a
modest
amount
of
money.
AE
K
To
execute
to
get
to
an
alternate
response-
and
it
probably
wasn't
clear
in
my
explanation-
and
it
came
up
yesterday
at
committee,
around
you're-
doing
all
that
work
for
550
000.
well
in
addition
to
the
550
000,
the
Investments
That
police-
are
making
to
contribute
toward
joint
solution.
Is
the
training
of
dispatch
that
I
spoke
to?
It
is
the
call
diversion
work
that
we
need
to
do
and
as
part
of
EMS,
and
it
is
support
in
figuring
out
those
alternate
responses
as
well.
So
there
is
money,
and
maybe
the
chief
could
speak
to
that.
Q
Q
Reduction
of
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
police
budget
would
have.
Is
that
I
understand
your
councilman
you're
saying
this?
This
is
the
efficiencies
that
were
identified
by
the
police,
that's
correct
mayor
and
just
to
clarify
too
it's
for
2023
and
2024
be
two
years
out,
and
obviously
we
know
550
is
not
enough,
but
a
two-year
I
understand
for
2023
wouldn't
be
full
U.S,
but
in
future
years,
as.
K
Well,
which
is
why
we
allocated
previously
and
hasn't
all
been
spent
that
550.
I
know
this
will
be
for
future
years
as
well.
So,
and
yes,
it's
speaking
to
the
comments
earlier
about
the
reduction
to
Professional
Services,
there's
a
520
000
savings
that
have
been
found
by
the
Ops
on
page
122
of
the
Ops
budget,
binders
that
520
000
in
efficiencies
that
were
found,
I
presume,
have
already
been
reallocated
in
the
budget
right
they're,
not
just
sitting
there
unused.
Is
that
correct
right?
K
We
have,
we
have
use
for
the
the
401
million
dollars
is
accounted
for.
If
you
will
yeah.
So
can
you
if,
if
this
police
budget
would
be
to
be
reduced
by
500
000?
What
would
be
the
impact
of
that?
Well,
we
would
have
to
consider
what
we
would
have
to
save
in
a
you
know
to
make
up
that
500
thousand
dollars,
yeah
I,
might
just
let
Deputy
Bell
speak
a
bit
more
to
that.
Thank
you,
Chief
yeah
Mr
bear
so.
O
The
the
body
of
work
that
they
were
doing
so
there
would
need
to
be
the
reduction
of
four
positions
within
the
organization
within
this
budget.
If
we
were
to
remove
that
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
okay
and
Donna
gray
mentioned
the
work
that
the
the
contribution
that
the
police
are
already
making
in
resources
towards
this
response
and
I
know
you've
also
hired
additional
Mental
Health
Resources
or
are
planning
to
hire
through
the
budget
additional
Mental
Health
Resources.
Can
you
put
a
number
on
that?
O
Yes,
so
we
we
plan
on
investing
internally,
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
which
is
part
of
our
base
budget
within
the
mental
health
programs.
That
will
include
the
continuation
with
the
guiding
Council
on
the
call
deferral
evaluation
and
setting
up
that
system,
that
fourth
pillar,
that
Donna
spoke
about,
as
well
as
looking
at
hiring
and
training
or
hiring
a
mental
health
resource
and
then
training
all
of
our
mental.
O
O
S
Of
the
police
system,
so
when
we're
talking
about
moving
resources
into
the
community,
we're
not
I
understand
the
work
that
you're
doing
internally
within
the
police
force
and
I
really
value
that
partnership
with
Donna
Gray's
department.
But
you
know
just
this
year,
I
I
know
Council
Curry.
You
mentioned
the
Ottawa
Community
Housing
internal
security
team,
which
is
another
example
of
a
non-police
crisis
response.
They
approached
me
when
I
went
to
one
of
the
Christmas
parties
on
at
415.
O
Mclaren
to
tell
me
that
their
proactive
outreach
program
that
the
funding
had
ended
for
that
and
that
they
could
no
longer
do
that
proactive
response
in
their
building.
Similarly
speaking,
you
know
there's
very
tenuous
funding
for
the
homeless
crisis
relief,
work
that
comes
out
of
Somerset,
West,
Community,
Health,
Center
and
also
their
dope
program,
which
is
which
is
works
with
people
who
use
drugs,
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
call
for
an
alternative
to
policing
is
coming.
It's
also
coming
from
business
owners.
It's
coming
very
loudly
from
business
owners.
O
Q
And,
symbolically,
to
show
that
investing
on
Alternatives
means
moving
money
out
of
policing
and
into
community
services,
and
that
Community
safety
and
well-being
encompasses
so
much
more
than
policing,
and
it
is
really
frustrating
to
see
how
fight
how
hard
we
have
to
fight
I,
keep
saying
we're
fighting
for
scraps,
but
our
Frontline
services
are
not
keeping
up
with
needs,
and
these
are
the
services
that
do
prevent
crime,
which
is
why
I
support
this
motion.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilor
trosterer
constell
plant.
Q
Thank
you,
counselor,
Menard
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
elaborate
a
bit
more
on
the
need
for
services
outside
of
Ward
12.
Yesterday
we
heard
about
eight
hours
of
delegations
of
people
basically
begging
for
services
outside
of
the
core
core
that
I'm,
simply
referring
to
word.
Twelves
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
elaborate
on
that
a
bit.
Please.
Merci,.
AF
Seen
in
in
Toronto
there's
been
specific
areas
set
up
all
across
that
City.
For
this
pilot,
their
pilot
is
between
7.2
and
7.9
million
dollars
annually
in
a
three-year
pilot,
obviously
thought
it
was
going
to
need
funding
not
at
that
much
funding.
But
you
know
about
a
fourth
of
that
funding
for
us
to
get
our
set
up
and
we
get
calls
all
the
time.
AF
I
can
tell
you
on
Bank
Street
there's
calls
constantly
for
mental
health
support
constantly,
for
you
know,
addictions
issues
constantly
for
homelessness,
and
so
this
is
a
right
across
the
city
issue.
Obviously
you
know
Services
tend
to
be
concentrated
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
this
response
team
is
able
to
go
right
across
the
city
where
that
demand
is
and
where
Ottawa
Police
receive
these
calls
through
the
9-1-1
service.
AF
So
we
know
from
that
pilot
in
Toronto
that
they
set
up
specific
areas
all
across
the
city
that
that,
were,
you
know,
being
piloted.
This
I
suspect
the
same
is
needed
here
in
Ottawa.
It's
not
just
one
particular
area
where
it's
contradicted
can
I
ask
a
follow-up
deputy
chief
Bell.
Could
you
also
touch
upon
the
need
for
services
outside
of
Ward
12?
AF
So
we
know
that
in
where
I
live
in
Canada
there's
need
for
mental
health
services,
addiction,
support
services,
so
I,
don't
think
I.
Don't
think
I
have
any
empirical
data
to
share
here,
but
we
know
in
all
of
our
conversations
in
every
one
of
my
conversations
with
the
counselors
around
this
table.
There
was
the
call
for
more
services
and
a
loud
call
for
more
Mental
Health
and
Social
Service
supports
from
every
corner
of
the
city.
AF
So
we
have
two
willing
Partners
here
sitting
at
this
table,
working
on
the
exact
same
issue,
so
taking
money
from
one
to
give
to
the
other
is
going
to
make
no
material
difference
whatsoever.
We're
having
a
discussion
about
reallocating
funds
from
a
budget.
That's
been
passed
by
a
board
undermining
the
work
for
symbolism.
AF
This
is
not
a
valuable
use
of
our
time,
nor
is
it
particularly
honest,
taking
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
police
to
get
to
community
and
Social
Services
when
they're,
both
working
on
the
exact
same
issue
is
a
shell
game
and
again
it
makes
no
material
difference
whatsoever.
I
will
be
voting
against
this
motion.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilor
luloff,
counselor
Bradley.
AF
Thank
you
mayor,
a
question
just
to
our
point
of
clarity
on
the
the
four
positions
that
would
be
removed.
If
we
were
to
move
forward
with
this
reallocation,
are
those
uniformed
officers
or
are
those
civilians,
so
those
will
be
civilian
positions,
so
civilian
positions,
like
would
support
as
a
mental
health
worker
within
our
communication
Center.
So
they
aren't.
The
money
we've
allocated
is
not
for
uniform
position.
It
is
for
civilian
positions.
AF
Okay,
sorry,
you
said
that
they
would
be
mental
health
workers.
They
could
be
drawn
on
to
to
invest
in
the
mental
health
workers
that
we're
talking
about
in
placing
in
our
communication
Center
this
year
that
we're
planning
to
place
in
our
communication
Center
in
this
year.
Okay,
I
guess
where
I
struggle
with
this
budget
is
you
know
the
previous
board
had
said?
V
You
know-
and
this
isn't
just
five
hundred
thousand
dollars-
it's
500
500
000
of
Base
funding
in
perpetuity.
So
this
will
then
increase
that
budget
year
after
year
after
year,
so
we
can
make
meaningful
Investments
and
movement
Upon
Our,
alternative
call
response
model,
so
I
know
that
we
say
that
they're
doing
the
same
work
but
they're
but
they're.
Not.
This
is
a
different.
This
is
a
different
model.
This
is
a
different
way
of
responding
to
people
in
need.
V
AG
AG
Thank
you,
mayor,
I.
Think
some
of
my
questions
have
been
answered
a
little
bit
Deputy
deputy
chief
Bell,
when,
when
the
mayor
was
asking
what
impact
the
500
000
in
Cuts
would
have-
and
you
said
that
would
be
in
in
four
positions
and
I-
think
I
understood
from
councilor
Bradley
right
now
that
those
positions
would
be
for
civilians
who
would
be
engaged
to
some
extent
in
Social
in
in
respond
to
what
I
guess
we're
trying
to
have
the
money
be
diverted
to,
but
for
those
business.
AG
No,
then,
no
Philip,
please
correct
sorry.
So
what
those
positions
they
would
be
for
civilian
positions
that
would
be
invested
into
our
the
start
of
the
investment
into
our
communication
Center
as
staff
who
would
provide
mental
health
supports
within
that
area
for
incoming
calls.
Okay,
thank
you,
but
but
they're
not
yet
positions
filled.
So
we
are
not
this;
this
would
not
be.
This
would
not
be
diminishing
your
current
Force.
This
would
be
diminishing
your
anticipated
growth.
Is
that
correct?
B
AH
Money
to
support
that
work
this
year,
thank
you
and
question
for
Donna
gray
and
thank
you
for
your
patience
with
me.
But
you
know
this
is
a
motion
that
I'm
just
dealing
with
right.
Now
it
does
sound.
You
know,
at
the
surface
level
that
this
motion
is
looking
to
put
more
funding
towards
to
you
know
to
more
Force,
more
funding
away
from
police
towards
Community
Services
to
do
what
it
sounds
like.
AH
B
P
Thank
you,
Mr,
Mayor
and
I.
Think
there's
I
think
there's
a
number
of
issues
that
have
been
put
on
the
table
and
I
think.
With
regards
to
the
first
question
around
the
plan
that
we
have
to
create
an
alternate
police
response.
That's
the
combination
of
work
that
we're
doing
today
that
we
think
will
lead
to
a
bigger
investment
needed
in
2024,
which
I
think
councilor.
P
Menard
is
saying
advancing
that
knowing
that
that's
going
to
come
at
some
point,
I
think
the
other
issue
that
we've
heard
loud
and
clear
I
think
with
councilor
toster
saying,
is
that
there
is
increased
need
for
mental
health
response,
which
I
think
is.
You
know
outside
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
now
and
we
we
heard
that
and
I
think
that
that
really
is
a
decision.
AG
AG
AG
AA
That
needs
to
be
filled,
and
could
we
fill
that
with
500
000?
Yes,
if
the
question
is,
do
we
need
this
work
to
advance
what
the
council
priority
of
the
alternate
police
response
that
you've
directed
us
to
do
in
the
budget?
No
I
believe
that
we
can
do
that
with
the
existing
supports
and
that
the
full
model
will
come
in
the
2024
budget
for
full
investment.
AA
AA
Thank
you
Mr
Mayor,
so
we
have
supported
from
the
outset
the
guiding
Council,
particularly
from
a
funding
perspective,
the
Secretariat
so
for
the
past
18
plus
months.
That's
money
that
we've
funded
in
order
to
to
benefit
to
build
on
the
work
that
the
guiding
Council
has
done
and
start
to
implement
the
pilots
from
the
policing
perspective
that
they're
engaged
in.
AA
We
have
advised
them
that,
as
of
the
end
of
March,
as
of
the
end
of
this
month,
we'll
no
longer
be
supporting
the
Secretariat,
so
the
administrative
function
as
they
transition
to
program
implementation,
we
will
still
have
money
going
towards
the
work
of
The
Guiding
Council.
It
just
won't
be
around
Administration
it'll,
be
around
program
implementation.
AA
Okay,
thank
you,
councilor
leaper.
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
and
I.
I
do
feel
as
though
we're
kind
of
circling
around
an
issue
that
I
I
think
clearly
divides.
Counsel
at
this
point,
which
is
who's
going
to
be
responsible
for
responding
to
mental
health,
calls
we're
hearing
from
police
about
police
involvement.
With
the
response
there
are
groups
that
councilor
troster
has
spoken
about
who
are
working
with
the
community
health
centers,
the
dope
group.
AA
AA
B
It's
not
just
going
to
be
the
city
and
police
who
are
trained
up
and
resource
to
provide
this
new
response.
We're
going
to
have
to
depend
on
the
people
who
are
already
trying
to
provide
this
response
today,
I
I'm,
not
necessarily
overly
invested
in
in
finding
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
out
of
one
efficiency,
I
absolutely
get
that
the
police
have
probably
put
that
put
that
efficiency
savings
back
into
getting
a
Dispatch
Center
up
and
ready
to
start
providing
alternative
response.
B
Thank
you.
Councilman
leaper,
counselor
dejosh,
thanks
Mr,
Mayor,
Mr,
Mayor,
I,
wonder
if,
if
through
you,
if
I
could
get
an
answer,
if
is
this
Motion
in
order?
I
guess
I'd
always
understood
that
our
role
here
was
to
vote
yes
or
no
on
the
police
budget
and
that
we
didn't
have
authority
to
to
influence
the
the
line
by
line
and
I'm
not
trying
to
be
mischievous
here.
B
Procedurally
Mr,
Mayor,
I,
I
think
again,
I
think
it'd,
be
people
asking
that
question
because
I
think
it
was
a
I
was
always
told
that
you
you.
You
know
it's
a
yes
or
no
decision
today
and
we
just
had
an
auditor
General's
report.
You
know
part
of
that
was
hey,
follow,
follow
procedures
follow
proper
process,
and
this
is
a
last
minute
motion
didn't
go
through
the
vetting
so
again,
I'm
not
trying
to
be
mischievous
here.
I
just
would
like
to
hear
that
this
this
motion's
in
order.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
David
White,
mayor
with
respect
to
what's
provided
in
the
police
services
act.
Council
is
not
bound
to
accept
the
estimates
of
submitted
by
The
Police
Services
Board.
It
can
set
a
different
amount.
It
can
provide
more
or
it
can
provide
less,
but
council
is
not
permitted.
To
do
is
to
identify
a
line
item
or
several
line
items
within
the
budget.
B
All
it
can
do
is
set
the
overall
total
and
is
then
up
to
the
board,
in
consultation
with
the
chief
and
the
Ops,
to
determine
how
it
will
deal
with
that
budget
reduction.
If,
if
the
board
is
of
the
view
that
it
cannot
provide
adequate
and
effective
policing
with
that
budget
reduction,
it
may
ask
the
Ontario
civilian
police
commission
to
adjudicate
that
question.
D
C
C
AB
AB
AF
C
C
B
By
500
000
and
then
with
respect
later
on
today,
when
we
are
dealing
with
the
community
services
budget,
there
would
have
been
a
supplementary
motion
increasing
that
budget
by
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Thank
you,
but
you're
saying
the
motion
is
in
order,
though,
is
that
your
mic's
not
on
same
Mr
Mayor?
That
I
would
have
preferred
the
the
motion
to
be
two
motions:
I
understand
that.
AA
J
C
N
B
In
terms
of
an
alternative,
the
only
course
if
the
board
does
not
believe
that
it
can
provide
adequate
and
effective
policing
with
the
budget.
That
Council
sets
is
to
the
ocpc,
and
that
would-
and
that
would
be
one
of
those
situations
that
the
AG
identified,
where
each
side
would
then
be
required
to
have
independent
counseling.
V
L
The
police
services
act
if
the
board
is
of
the
view
that
the
amount
established
by
Council
for
its
budget
is,
is
inadequate
and
it
can't
it
cannot
provide
adequate
and
effective
policing
in
accordance
with
the
municipalities
needs.
Then
it
has
recourse
to
the
Ontario
civilian
police
commission
to
adjudicate
that.
L
Okay,
thank
you
did
you
want
to
say
yeah.
Please
go
ahead,
councilman
thanks!
So
much
Mary
just
on
wrap
up,
you
know
appreciate
the
discussion
around
the
table.
This
is
a
good
discussion.
It's
important
one.
We
have
to
have
counselor
I'm,
just
going
to
jump
in
dude
I
was
going
to
say
a
few
words
I,
don't
I,
don't
I'm
happy
to
go
after
you,
but
if
you
want
to
whatever
you'd
like,
if
you
want
to
keep
going
I'll
go
out
whenever
you'd
like
me
to
okay,
go
ahead,
okay
and
I'll
yeah.
L
Thank
you
so
just
to
say,
I
really
appreciate
my
colleagues
points
about
this,
and
these
things
aren't
easy.
Of
course,
I
know
the
previous
Council
has
set
a
goal
to
have
these
mental
health
response
teams
launched
this
current
Council
has
also
set
that
goal
and
I
think
the
the
foremost
Point
here
is
that
mental
health
response
teams
save
police
money.
L
If
you
want
to
save
money
for
the
police,
so
they
can
do
other
things,
then
you
need
to
invest
in
mental
health
response
teams
to
do
so
in
every
jurisdiction
where
these
are
implemented.
It's
a
two-for-one
savings,
at
least
so
the
point
about
not
wanting
to
you
know
remove
money
from
the
police
because
you're
concerned
about
where
those
resources
might
go
this.
L
This
will
save
them
money
in
the
future,
because
the
program
in
Toronto,
diverted
1500
calls
80
percent
of
those
calls
were
diverted
to
a
group
that
can
do
it
for
less
money
with
better
outcomes,
and
we
heard
the
police
chief
in
Toronto
we
had.
We
heard
our
own
police
chief
and
I
appreciate
the
comments
from
the
police
chief
saying
that
those
results
were
surprising.
I
think
they
were,
they
were.
B
So
if
you
want
to
save
money
for
the
police-
and
you
want
to
reinvest
those
priorities
in
the
future-
and
we
want
to
do
what
we
say
we
were
going
to
do-
which
is
to
accelerate
the
mental
health
response
teams
in
Ottawa
in
2023
and
2024
we're
going
to
have
to
find
funding.
This
won't
even
cover
it
we're
going
to
need
more
than
this,
and
so
that
budget
coming
back
in
2024
you're,
going
to
see
a
bigger
request
from
that.
B
AD
What
percentage
is
that
zero
point
two
or
something
and
that's
all
0.2
percent?
So
we
say
this
is
a
big
priority
for
us.
Let's
invest
in
it.
Let's
do
the
right
thing
here
and
save
the
police
money
in
the
future,
because
we've
been
so
proactive
on
this
I
think
the
pilot
in
Toronto's
indicative
mayor
they
spend
7.2
to
7.9
million
on
a
three-year
project,
they're
gaining
savings
as
a
result
and
they're
seeing
the
results
come
back
to
us.
I
appreciate,
Miss,
gray
and
I
thank
her
for
the
35
years
of
service.
AD
I
have
utmost
respect
for,
for
what
Ms
Berry
has
done,
the
accomplishments
you've
you've
had
in
the
municipality
and
the
work
that
you've
done
on
the
guiding
Council
to
get
us
to
this
point
and
I
heard
your
comments
about
the
need
for
that
funding
in
in
the
future.
2023,
2024
and
I
know
the
accelerated
the
push
to
accelerate
I
said
on
the
radio
the
other
day
mayor
that
I
think
there's
Talk
Amongst
Council.
AD
We
want
to
accelerate
this
program
and
I
believe
in
in
you
and
you're
going
to
do
it
I
think
you're
going
to
be
the
mayor
that
brings
this
in
finally
in
our
city
that
needs
it.
So,
let's
work
together
on
this
I,
don't
think
this
needs
to
be
a
big
divisive
issue.
It's
a
small
amount
of
money,
there's
going
to
be
effective
police
services
and
we're
investing
a
priority.
We
say
we
all
support.
So
let's
get
behind
this.
AD
Let's
save
the
police,
some
money
in
the
future
and
let's
get
a
mental
health
response
team
established
in
the
city
of
Otto
as
soon
as
possible.
I
hope
my
colleagues
can
support
this
today.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilor
Menard
and
I
wanted
to
give
you
the
option
of
either
going
before
me
or
after
me,
because
I
don't
know
you
know,
I,
don't
always
have
to
have
the
last
word
and
you're.
If
you,
if
you
hear
me,
say
something
here
that
you
want
to
respond
to
I'll
gladly,
have
you
speak
again,
so
I?
AD
You
know
I
support
the
intent
of
the
motion.
I
think
we
all
want
to
invest
in
this
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
support
the
motion
respectfully
but
I'm
I'm,
saying
that
because
I
think,
because
I
want
to
support
the
work,
that's
already
being
done
by
the
police
service
and
by
by
Donna
Gray's
Department
community
and
Social
Services
I
want
to
support
the
great
work
of
the
Ottawa
Police
Services
Board
in
finalizing
a
budget
for
2023
without
counsel
overriding
that
work
and
and
taking
money
out
of
the
police
budget.
AK
I
think
there
are
other
sources
of
funding
which
we've
already
identified,
that
we
potentially
could
tap
into
and
I'm
also
a
little
bit
uncomfortable
with
you
know
my
my
preference
and
I
know
this
is
all
within.
You
know
the
normal
process,
with
a
budget
and
with
any
council
meeting.
But
you
know
my
preference
is
to
do
this
kind
of
work
outside
Council
meetings,
not
during
Council
meetings.
S
Of
money,
but
it
is
five
hundred
thousand
dollars.
It
is
for
positions.
It
is
changing
the
police
services
plans
for
2023,
which
have
already
been
approved
by
The
Police
Services
Board.
So
you
know
my
preference
would
be
to
do
this
kind
of
work
outside
a
meeting
and
do
it.
You
know,
with
staff
and
with
the
Police
Service
working
together,
so
I
still
support
the
direction
of
the
guiding
Council
I,
still
support,
accelerating
that
work.
AK
For
the
reasons
I
mentioned,
I
won't
I
won't
support
the
motion,
but
I
will
commit
to
moving
all
of
these
issues
forward
as
quickly
as
possible
after
this
meeting.
So
there
are
no
other
comments.
I
think
we'll
move
to
a
recorded
vote
on
counselor
Menard's
motion,
counselor
dudas,
no
counselor,
Gower,
no
counselor
Kelly,
no
answer
luloff,
no
counselor
King,
yes,
counselor
Tierney,
no,
sir
Curry,
no
counselor
kits
no
counselor
Carr,
no.
AD
AL
AL
Are
there
are
there
any
other
comments
on
the
police
services,
draft
operating
and
capital
budgets
and
Ace
mayor,
okay?
Yep?
So
if
we
could
call
the
vote
on
that,
please
counselor
dudas,
yes,
counselor
Gower,
yes,
counselor
Kelly,
yes,
councilor
luloff,
yes,
counselor,
King,
no
counselor
Tierney;
yes,
counselor
Curry,
yes,
counselor
Kitts,
yes,
councilor
Carr,.
L
AK
Counselor
Hill,
yes,
we
counselor
Hubley,
yes,
councilor
Brockington,
yes,
mayor
Sutcliffe,
yes,
17
years,
eight
Nays!
Thank
you.
Let's
move
to
the
Ottawa
Public
Library
board,
draft
operating
and
capital
budget,
as
recommended
by
the
Ottawa
Public
Library
board
and
I
understand.
There's
a
motion
from
counselor
Brockington.
AL
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity,
so
people
of
Ottawa
certainly
appreciate
and
recognize
the
importance
of
the
Ottawa
Public
Library,
not
just
in
our
city,
but
in
the
neighborhoods
that
span
the
Four
Corners
riverward
is
certainly
no
exception.
Despite
no
immediate
local
library,
residents
travel
to
Avail
themselves
of
resources
at
our
branches
and
they
make
use.
D
Limited
in
programming,
some
limited
in-person
programming
and
we
have
the
kiosk
and
hold
lockers
that
serve
Hunt,
Club
Riverside
Park
communities
in
Riverwood.
We
have
strong
engaged
cohorts
of
residents
who
Champion
increase,
opl
presence
in
the
ward
and
I
thank
them
for
their
passionate
advocacy.
AD
City
council
requests
that
the
Ottawa
Public
Library
board
direct
its
staff
to
initiate
the
activities
of
the
Community
Development
function
in
Ward
16
riverward
meeting
with
the
counselor
and
Community
Association
leaders
to
discuss
priorities
and
to
consider
input
regarding
the
expansion
of
opl
programming
and
services
in
the
area
and
again
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
I
acknowledge
the
conversations
that
have
happened
that
have
got
us
to
this
point
today
and
I.
Thank
the
opl
very
much.
Thank
you.
AD
AK
If
we
can
confirm
that,
but
and
just
to
be
clear,
just
from
a
procedural
point
of
view
this
this
in
a
different
context,
this
could
have
been
done
perhaps
as
a
Direction,
but
because
it's
a
a
police
board,
it
can't
be
done
as
a
direction.
It
has
to
be
a
motion
so
just
to
just
to
provide
some
context
on
that,
but
councilor
luloff
did
you
want
to
speak
to
that?
Please
a
bit
a
bit
of
an
awkward.
D
B
Two
full-time
employees
and
we'll
also
reassign
one
full-time
employee
to
be
doing
this
Community
Development
work,
which
is
just
so
important
in
a
city,
that's
as
large
as
as
as
ours,
and
given
the
fact
that
most
of
the
branches
that
we
do
have
are
you
know,
remnants
of
amalgamation.
This
Community
Development
work
in
Wards,
especially
where
you
know
we
may
not
have
a
physical
presence,
is
very
very
important.
B
Staff,
expertise
and
guidance
is
the
most
impactful
resource
that
we
can
allocate
to
this
work
and
we've
heard
from
the
community
a
desire
to
work
in
closer
partnership.
So
this
budget
sets
the
direction
to
meet
that
need.
Specifically,
our
staff
are
going
to
initiate
and
manage
Community
relationships
plan
resulting
service
offerings,
sometimes
they'll
be
delivering
it
themselves,
and
sometimes
with
other
staff
and
service
areas
and
we'll.
B
With
Partners,
based
on
these
outcomes,
so
this
work
is
going
to
be
undertaken
by
a
team
and
will
inform
any
possible
additional
recommendations
in
the
2024
budget
and
Beyond.
So
riverward
residents,
specifically
and
residents
from
across
the
city,
can
expect
to
see
the
work
happening.
You
know
in
their
Ward
expand
or
expand
by
or
before
September
2023.
As
the
community
development
team
has
established
the
conversations
get
underway
when
our
staffing
situation
improves.
B
Overall,
which
is
which
is
good
news
in
River
Ward
increased
opl
service
office
offerings
could
include
additional
story
times
at
the
community
center.
A
spring
session
is
planned
right
now.
You
know
events,
presentations,
programs
focused
on
other
age
groups
and
interest,
targeted
programs
held
at
partner
organizations
and
more
depending
on
the
needs,
and
depending
on
the
feedback
that
comes
out
of
of
this
discussion,
which
we're
committed
to
to
beginning
in
in
River
Ward,
but
will
also
be
across
the
city.
B
I
think
it's
important
that
we
engage
with
with
residents
in
all
Awards
across
the
city.
So
again
this
work's
not
going
to
be
limited
to
River
Ward.
So,
don't
don't
worry
everyone
around
the
table
will
will
be
in
your
areas
too.
In
fact,
we
don't
allocate
Services
based
on
Ward.
It's
based
on
geography,
so
we'll
indeed
reach
out
to
all
members
of
council
for
similar
support,
leveraging
their
knowledge
and
relationships
with
their
communities
and
we're
glad
to
have
respect
receptive
and
engaged
communities
to
provide
input
into
this
work.
B
AA
Just
to
clarify
that
Community
Development
is
a
key
mechanism
by
which
we
initiate
and
manage
those
long-term
relationships,
and
importantly,
it
does
so
beyond
the
walls
of
our
bricks
and
mortar
location,
and
so
what
is
provided
for
in
this
budget
I
think
is
entirely
appropriate
for
the
needs
expressed
by
the
community.
Thank
you.
AA
Thank
you.
Bose!
Let's
go
next
to
counselor
Hill!
Thank
you!
Mr
Mayor,
first
staff
I
think
I
just
heard
that
we
have
the
adequate
resources
in
the
23
budget
in
order
to
essentially
do
what's
being
asked
for
in
this
motion
and
I.
Think
what
I've
also
heard
in
the
motion
is
that
we're
looking
to
have
continued
Community
engagement
and
dialogue
in
order
to
ensure
that
there
are
no
gaps
in
coverage
for
Library
services
and
support,
so
I
don't
completely
understand
what
the
value
of
the
motion
is.
AA
B
And,
and
so
I
do
want,
I
do
want
to
mention
that
we
are
undergoing
a
Gap,
a
service
Gap
analysis
through
two
different
mechanisms.
Right
now,
one
being
our
service
delivery
framework
that
we'll
be
looking
at
to
this
term
aboard
and
also
our
facilities
framework,
and
so
this
work
is,
it
will
will
only
add
to.
AB
AB
Thank
you,
councilor
Hill,
counselor
kits.
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
I
appreciate
what
the
counselors
doing
with
this
motion,
advocating
for
increased
services
and
programming
in
their
Ward,
but
River
Ward
is
not
the
only
Ward.
Without
a
branch,
Ward
19
doesn't
have
a
branch
and
my
residents
actually
have
to
travel
farther
or
in
some
cases,
much
farther
to
reach
a
branch.
So
can
I
ask
how
many
Wards
are
in
that
situation.
AB
AB
AB
Thank
you,
yeah.
The
motion
directs
staff
requests
staff
to
initiate
this
work
in
River
Ward,
because
we
know
we
have
very
fertile
ground
on
a
very
receptive
Community
there,
but
it
wouldn't
obviate
that
same
work
occurring
elsewhere
and
so
I'll
I'll
leave
aside
any
any
wording
around
the
wording
of
the
of
the
amendment,
but
the
intention
of
staff
and
what
this
budget
provides
for
is
to
undertake
that
work
in
a
consistent
manner.
It's
about
the
starting
point
for
that
work.
AB
Okay,
so
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
you're
indifferent,
because
the
work
is
going
to
happen
anyway,
so
whether
it's
captured
in
the
motion
or
not
it's
happening.
Okay,
thank
you.
We
will
ensure
to
to
be
doing
the
same
kind
of
work
in
your
ward
as
well.
Counselor,
the
Ottawa
Public
Library
is,
is
quite
good
at
walking
and
chewing
gum
at
the
same
time.
So
I
think
we'll
be
undergoing
all
this
work.
At
the
same
time,
thank
you.
AB
I
think
you
know,
based
on
that,
I
think
I
will
be
dissenting
on
the
motion
just
because
I
don't
think
it's
necessary.
I
think
that
work
is
already
happening.
I
think
we
heard
that
at
the
board-
and
we
heard
that
again
today-
you
know
and
I
don't
want
my
residents
to
feel
that
there's
you
know
special
attention
being
paid
to
another
Ward
over.
My
ward,
but
I
appreciate
your
comments.
Thank
you.
AB
Thank
you.
Counselor
kids,
counselor
Curry.
Thank
you.
Mr,
Mayor,
I.
Think
this
motion
is
really
neither
here
nor
there
because
we
have
such
support
for
it.
However,
I
will
say
having
sat
on
the
Caldwell
Family
Center
board
there
and
not
Council
brockington's
Ward
for
many
years.
What
was
astonishing
were
the
EDI
scores
for
that
area
in
School
Readiness.
AB
So
absolutely
there
are
words
that
don't
have
library
branches,
but
there
are
Awards
in
addition
to
that
that
have
very
low
EDI
scores
where
we
know
schools,
kids
are
not
ready
for
school,
I.
Think
councilor,
brockington's
Ward.
Only
29
percent
of
kids
are
ready
for
school.
You
see
another
awards
that
numbers
up
around
80.,
so
it
highlights
the
need
for
libraries.
It
highlights
the
need
for
a
consultation
on
how
those
resources
can
get
to
kids
and
families
and
obviously
not
just
children.
Well,
literacy
is
important
for
everyone.
H
Affect
other
consultations
as
well
and
I'm
sure
you
look
at
the
EDI
scores,
but
I
would
just
highlight
them
as
a
very
important
marker.
The
Gap
analysis
that
we're
doing
as
part
of
our
facilities
framework
will
certainly
be
looking
at
that
that's
part
of
the
metrics,
so
we
will
certainly
be
looking
at
EDI
scores
and
need
in
community
we're
looking
at
this
through
a
community
Equity
lens.
So,
yes,
that
is
absolutely
something
that
is
going
to
be
looked
at
through
the
facilities.
AM
Framework
as
well
I,
don't
know
if
the
CEO
would
like
to
comment
further
on
that,
but
this
this
is.
This
is
baked
into
the
process
that
that
will
be
part
of
our.
You
know
our
metrics
for
deciding
how
to
prioritize
programming
and
services
and
and
and
the
like,
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
I'll
just
clarify
a
little
bit
if
I
may
that
our
first
data
point
that
we
use
is
to
take
a
neighborhood
and
use
ons.
The
Ottawa
neighborhood
study
data
to
determine
distance
average,
walking
distance
pedestrian
distance
to
a.
H
Local
branch,
that's
the
Gateway
criteria
and
we
have
different
distances
for
different
sectors
of
the
city
and
then
once
a
sec,
a
neighborhood
is
through
that
Gateway
criteria.
Then
we
apply
those
other
lenses
in
order
to
prioritize
those
gaps,
so
it
would
be
informed
by
those
factors.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
mean
that
is
the
other
part
of
it.
We
used
to
do
that
at
the
school
board.
H
H
AC
AC
O
Public
Health
budget
is
that
carried
good
item.
C
is
the
recommendation
set
out
in
a
Board
of
Health
motion
to
cosign
letters
with
the
chair
of
the
Board
of
Health
to
the
province
of
Ontario?
Is
that
carried
good?
Thank
you
all
right.
We
will
move
now
to
City
budgets,
as
recommended
by
the
standing
committees
of
council,
starting
with
the
Agricultural
and
Rural
Affairs
committee
portion
of
the
draft
operating
and
capital
budgets.
O
Any
questions
or
comments
on
that
is
it
carried
good,
hey
the
audit
committee
portion
of
the
2023
draft
operating
budget
is
that
carried
page
two
is
way
better
than
page
one,
probably
didn't
jinx.
It
number
eight,
the
community
services
committee,
a
portion
of
the
2023
draft
operating
in
capital
budgets,
I
understand
there
is
a
motion
from
counselor
Menard
councilman.
O
So
this
is
for
myself
and
councilor
truster
on
portable
toilets
and
waiting
pool
hours.
I
think
I'll
just
read
the
therefore
be
it
resolved.
I
I,
just
I,
do
want
to
thank
before
I.
Do
thank
your
office
for
helping
to
to
draft
and
work
on
this
together
and
recognize
the
need
in
this
area
going
forward
as
well.
O
So
it's
therefore
be
resolved
at
the
required
base.
Budget
adjustment
of
33
000
for
the
rental
costs
of
an
additional
48
portable
toilets
and
17
000
for
the
opening
of
a
select
number
of
geographically
dispersed
waiting,
pools
on
Canada
Day
and
the
August
Civic
holiday,
be
funded
by
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
reduction
in
the
tax,
supported
Services
diesel
fuel
budget
and
be
a
further
resolve
that
the
department
consult
with
each
Ward
counselor.
O
As
washroom
operating
hours
for
existing
facilities
and
bring
these
forward
as
part
of
the
2024
budget
for
city
council,
consideration
and
just
very
brief
motivation
on
this
mayor,
each
counselor
would
have
two
extra
locations
for
their
award,
so
you
can
pick
based
on
where
you're,
seeing
that
need
in
your
award
for
for
more
bathroom
use,
whether
it
be
high-use,
Sports
fields
or
parks
in
your
area,
the
other.
The
other
piece
of
this
is
obviously
we
have
a
lot
of
washrooms.
O
Our
wading
pools,
obviously,
we've
got
some
some
staggering
that
happens.
I
worked
with
Dan
cheniere's
office
to
better
understand
that
I
think
you
all
saw
the
memo
that
came
out.
I'm
hopeful
that
in
the
future,
this
this
budget
can
be
ameliorated
just
a
little
bit
to
open
our
pools
longer.
Obviously,
climate
change
is
happening.
We're
seeing
the
effects
it's
hotter
later
and
earlier,
and
we
are
in
need
of
these
types
of
facilities
for
for
residents,
for
families,
for
people
in
need.
O
AC
Comments
or
questions
about
the
motion
and
also
about
the
community
services
committee
portion
of
the
draft
operating
and
capital
budget.
So
it's
open
on
anything
in
that
and
then
we'll
move
to
voting
on
the
motion
and
the
different
parts
of
the
budget.
Councilor
troster.
Thank
you.
First
I'll
speak
to
the
to
the
notion
that
I'm
co-sponsoring
with
councilor.
O
Menard
I
I
cannot
emphasize
how
important
bathroom
access
is
in
the
downtown
core.
One
of
the
chief
complaints.
People
are
finding
human
waste
in
parks
in
garden
beds
in
their
front
yard.
It's
inhumane,
it
is
unsanitary.
Public
bathrooms
are
a
necessity
and
until
we
can
roll
out
a
comprehensive
City
public
bathroom
strategy,
I
don't
think
that
two
porta
potties
per
award
it's
too
much
to
ask
for
and
if
any
Ward
doesn't
want.
AC
W
N
That
commitment,
but
I,
think
we
also
need
to
discuss
the
difference
between
eliminating
a
program
and
a
functional
cut,
and
what
we're
hearing
from
so
many
of
our
Community
Partners
is
the
need
is
higher
and
their
dollars
aren't
going
as
far
I
know.
Mr
Mayor.
You
mentioned
that,
for
example,
the
rate
of
food
inflation
is
something
that
we
don't
necessarily
have
to
deal
with
as
much
as
a
city,
but
the
agencies
we
fund,
need
to
do
that.
N
V
V
There
are
more
than
8
000
people
that
go
through
a
shelter
system
every
year
when
we
know
it's
cheaper
and
more
effective
to
House
people.
It
just
requires
upfront
investment,
so
I'm,
very
proud
that,
thanks
to
the
leadership
of
counselors,
Carr
and
King,
and
flaunt
yesterday
at
Community
Services,
we
approved
a
road
map
to
moving
people
out
of.
AN
Overflow,
physical
distancing,
shelters
into
permanent,
Supportive,
Housing
and
I'm
really
confident
that
we're
going
to
make
this
happen,
but
right
now
the
situation
is
untenable.
The
longer
we
delay
fixing
these
problems,
the
more
it's
going
to
cost
us
to
fix
and
the
more
damage
that
will
occur
so
I
just
I,
really
want
to
thank
staff
for
working
closely
with
my
office.
We
almost
brought
a
couple
of
motions
to
secure
small
but
key
pieces
of
funding,
but
staff
worked
with
us
to
help
find
options.
AN
V
S
Of
Frontline
services
in
our
neighborhood
to
find
out
what
is
really
needing
Community
needs,
because
we
always
need
more
to
meet
the
need,
and
these
are
not,
as
these
are
not
optional,
Services
they're
really
essential
for
the
survival
of
my
neighbors
in
Somerset
Ward.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Councilor
troster,
counselor
dudas.
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
I
had
a
question
about
the
funding
source,
so
I
noted
that
in
this
budget
in
this
motion,
it's
it's
pulling
the
money
from
the
diesel
fuel
budget.
S
S
AM
In
the
month
of
January,
so
it
kind
of
gave
us
a
little
bit
of
capacity
spare
capacity
to
address
the
bigger
component,
which
should
be
the
trans-emotional
which
will
come
shortly
and
then
just
a
little
bit
of
residual,
because
Citywide
tax
side
of
the
equation
that
diesel
budget
is
much
smaller.
So
that's
why
there's
less
funding
there
from
that
perspective
and
you'll
see
more
on
the
the
transit
side?
Okay.
AM
Okay,
that's
good
to
know
the
only
other
question
I
have
is
you
know,
I
know
the
city
when
they
provide
porta,
potties
they're
doing
that
generally
in
summer
months.
Can
you
confirm
that
this
will
be
available
in
the
winter
months
and
I
say
that
specifically,
because
there
is
an
amazing
group
in
my
ward,
it.
AJ
Group
and
they've
been
asking
for
facilities
for
their
users
for
a
while,
but
they
only
run
in
the
winter.
So
I
really
I
want
to
support
this
motion,
but
I
want
to
know
that
it's
not
just
seasonally,
explicit
Mr
Mayor
I
can
confirm
that
the
porta
potties
can
be
installed
year-round
as
long
as
they're
an
accessible
location
for
servicing
on
a
weekly
basis.
There'd
be
no
issue
with
winter.
Wonderful,
it
might
be
cold
to
use
during
the
winter,
but
I'm
happy
to
know
that
it's
available,
so
thank
you
very
much.
AN
AD
Of
town,
and
so
I
was
just
talking
with
councilor
troster,
and
we
were
wondering
if
whoever
is
leading
this
initiative,
I've
never
met
them.
I,
I
they've,
never
met
with
my
office
and
I
just
confirmed
they've,
never
emailed
my
office
either.
So
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
do
a
direction
to
staff
that
they
meet
with
us
myself
and
counselor
truster
to
determine
an
appropriate
location.
O
A
variety
of
different
things,
both
service
gaps
and
what
came
out
was
a
need
for
mental
health
practitioners,
Community
Mental
Health
practitioners
in
the
community-
that
is
out
of
the
scope
of
the
city
in
terms
of
being
funding
that,
because
it
was
really
clinical
resources,
so
part
of
the
work
was
to
do
a
proposal
and
to
build
that
proposal.
That
work
was
done
with
Ottawa
Inner
City
Health.
That
proposal
was
provided
to
the
Ottawa
Hospital,
who
is
working
with
the
Ontario
Health
teams
to
look
at
then.
How
would
that
get
funded?
O
How
would
that
be
governed?
And
what
would
that
look
like
so
I
think
what
I
would
recommend
is
that
I
direct
yourself
and
counselor
troster
to
the
Ottawa
Hospital
and
happy
to
make
that
connection
around
the
supports
and
what
that
looks
like
and
where
they're
proposing
those
be
located.
But
the
the
your
your
memo
here
says
there
is
City
staff
involved,
correct.
P
P
L
L
So
at
this
point
in
time,
the
work
that
we
did
was
to
identify
the
gaps,
make
the
links,
find
an
opportunity
for
funding
sources
and
put
the
appropriate
governance
in
place.
Now
it
would
be
up
to
them
about
where
they
would
go
so
again.
I
would
direct
you
to
the
Ottawa
Hospital
and
happy
to
make
those
connections
with
the
team
and
then
would
you
would
your
team
support
looking
at
a
location
outside
of
the
byword
market
in
Lower
Town,
a
permanent
location,
I'm,
assuming
it's
a
like
an
actual
clinic
and
that
I'm
wondering?
AN
This
outside
of
the
byword
market
in
Lower,
Town,
Mr
Mayor,
where
it
gets
located
and
how
it's
actually
located,
is
the
responsibility.
I,
don't
direct
clinical
mental
health
supports.
That
is
the
responsibility
of
the
Ottawa
Hospital.
So
they
would
be.
They
would
be
the
ones
determining
where
those
specific
resources
would
go
and
how
they're
governed
and
how
they're
managed.
L
L
Okay,
sorry
do
I,
do
I
still
need
a
direction
to
staff,
though,
for
you
to
make
that
connection
I
think
yeah.
Okay!
Thank
you.
Okay!
Thank
you,
counselor
Kavanaugh.
Thank
you
very
much,
I
very
much
support.
This
motion.
There's
been
lobbies
for
many
many
years
from
a
group
called
gotta
go
that
has
been
lobbying
about
having
public
bathrooms
available
throughout
the
city
and
with
heat
waves.
L
Beaches
are
a
prime
target
because
when
there's
a
heat
wave
in
May
and
it's
happened
and
the
and
the
facilities
are
not
open
for
bathrooms,
it's
a
huge
problem
and
we're
getting
that
more
and
more.
That
didn't
happen
in
the
past.
It's
happening
now.
So
this
is
a
good
start.
We
have
to
look
at
bathrooms
eventually
available
all
year
round
in
public
places.
I
think
that's
really
really
important,
but
I
support
the
the
direction
and
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
this
as
a
philosophy.
Thank
you.
L
AM
Waiting
pools,
but
as
an
interim
measure,
I
I
appreciate
the
challenge
that
that
is
there
and
I
appreciate
fully
that
people
want
to
use
these
water
facilities
in
the
longer
term
and
in
the
newer
communities.
We've
adopted
the
the
splash
pads
right,
which
gives
the
community
that
opportunity
to
to
take
advantage
of
it
throughout
the
day,
and
we
don't
have
this.
L
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
Yes,
indeed,
most
of
our
wading
pools
are
approaching
end
of
life.
If
they
haven't
already
reached,
we
have
done
a
few
conversions
from
Wading
pools.
We
did
One
two
summers
ago,
I
believe
and
with
each
one
that
comes
up.
We
do
enter
into
discussions
with
the
counselor
and
the
community
in
terms
of
what
should
be
replaced,
whether
they
would
like
to
go
with
a
splash
pad
as
an
alternative
that,
as
you
know,
does
not
have
service
hours
and
it
provides
a
different
service
but
longer
longer
coverage.
L
I
appreciate
that
again,
I'll
support
it
as
as
an
interim
measure
and
I
hope
we're
going
to
continue
on
that
path
to
come
up
with
I,
think
much
more
environmentally
friendly
structures
and
ones
that
are
less
costly
to
the
taxpayer
and
ultimately,
it's
the
same
level
of
service
across
the
city
of
Ottawa.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
councilor
Dave,
councilor
Hill.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
and
certainly
I
can
appreciate.
Having
sat
through
that
same
meeting
as
many
others
did
yesterday,
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
about
the
issue
of
of
access
to
washrooms
and
and
just
the
ability
for
people
to
to
go
about
their
day
without
having
to
to
plan
it
around
a
wash
and
break
I've.
L
To
pay
Paul
I
guess
is
what
I'm
asking
for,
or
would
this
have
a
an
impact
Downstream
on
other
programming
that
we
could
potentially
be
looking
at
just
a
bit
of
a
question
on
on
the
financing
of
it,
Mr
Mayor,
so
we're
definitely
not
Rob
and
Peter
to
pay
Paul.
Basically,
as
we
started
the
budget
process,
we
age
our
contracts
to
the
tune
of
60
percent
of
the
shorter
term,
and
then
we
kind
of
deal
a
bit
more
in
the
longer
term
and
what
we
found
in
the.
I
B
B
B
For
the
cost
of
these
go
huts
and
we
actually
ran
out
of
money
to
be
able
to
put
them
all
out
during
that
time.
Has
the
market
corrected
or
the
prices
starting
to
fall
because
Ivan,
the
sponsor
a
local
football
group,
the
North
Gloucester
Giants,
to
be
able
to
have
them,
have
a
porta
potty
because
they
were
so
expensive
and
we
couldn't
afford
to
do
it
so
I'm
just
wondering:
do
you
have
enough
budget
for
this,
because
the
price
of
those
things
is
quite
expensive
up
until
last
year?
B
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
Yes,
indeed,
the
the
we've
seen
a
stabilization
of
the
markets,
so
the
33
000
that
is
in
this
motion
is
really
based
on
about
a
hundred
dollars
a
month
per
unit
coming
in,
which
is
pretty
well
pre-pandemic
prices.
We're
we're
almost
back
there.
That's
terrific
news!
Thank
you
very
much.
AC
AC
C
So
the
city
we
heard
at
at
Iraq
last
week
that
there
seems
to
to
be
a
lack
of
of
of
mental
health
help
in
rural
areas
across
the
city
too.
So
just
just
hoping
that
we're
not
necessarily
only
concentrating
on
one
area
of
the
city
that
that
we're
looking
for
Partnerships
to
be
able
to
deliver
Mental,
Health
Services.
B
Across
the
city,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
and
absolutely
I
think
what
we're
what
we're
seeing
and
we
definitely
started
the
community
services
committee
yesterday
is
you
know,
mental
health
and
struggles
are
across
every
municipality
and
part
of
the
first
phase
of
the
initiative
that
we're
working
with
in
2023
with
Paramedic
Services
is
to
expand
that
city-wide.
That
response
into
the
medical
system
and
those
Partners
around
the
table
that
are
looking
at
mental
health
and
our
mental
health
practitioners
are
looking.
AF
At
the
overarching
system
having
to
respond
in
some
way
or
understanding
the
needs
across
all
Geographic
Geographic
areas,
somehow
and
also
I,
think
that's.
A
key
piece
of
the
advocacy
campaign
that
has
to
also
be
a
part
is
ensuring
that
Ottawa
has
its
fair
share
of
mental
health,
supports
from
the
appropriate.
B
Ministries
that
actually
fund
mental
health
and
it's
making
the
distinction
between
where
it's
municipality's
responsibility
and
where
is
the
responsibilities
of
other
levels
of
government,
so
we're
hoping
that
we
do
a
concentrated
effort
in
rural
areas
will
be
a
key
component
as
well
of
that.
Thank
you
so
much
a
really
really
excellent
work
in
that
area.
To
do
true
truly
appreciate
it.
B
It
seems
that,
time
and
time
again,
our
Ottawa
paramedic
service
steps
up
to
fill
gaps
that
are
left
by
other
orders
of
government
entirely
impressed
with
with
the
work
that
you're
doing
in
conjunction
with
the
Ottawa
paramedic
service.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Councilor
luloff,
counselor
Lowe.
Thank
you,
mayor
I
want
to.
Z
AO
Z
Being
put
in
Jeopardy
in
the
future
when
price,
when
fuel
prices
rise
to
the
point
where,
like
that
that
savings
is
lost,
Mr
Mayor
knows
this
would
be
a
base
adjustment,
so
this
base
is
now
there,
so
this
gives
Dan
the
opportunity
to
continue
on
with
that
program.
Okay,
thanks!
Thank
you.
Councilor
low,
councilor
Brockington.
Z
Thank
you
mayor
the
feedback
from
grandparents
daycare
providers,
parents
who
talk
about
going
to
Parks,
who
don't
have
porta,
potty
or
washroom,
and
the
second
they
arrive
while
little
one
says:
I
have
to
go
to
the
bathroom
and
you've
got
to
pack
up
and
pull
the
wagon
back.
The
second
little
toes
touch
Splash
Pad
water.
Z
Z
Z
I
do
want
to
ask
I,
didn't
ask
it
yesterday,
but
there's
no
resource
noted
in
the
budget
for
Mooney's,
Bay,
Hill
renovation
or
the
next
step.
We
are
to
get
back
a
plan
with
at
least
options
for
consideration.
I
believe
in
Q3
I
could
be
wrong
on
the
timelines,
but
the
budget
is
silent,
so
are.
Are
we
in
a
wait
and
see
approach
and
then
we
would
maybe
consider
something
in
2024.
What's
the
the
thinking
along
that
Mr
Mayor?
That's
good,
that's
correct!
We
are
in
a
study
and
determine
costs.
Z
What
we
will
have
by
the
end
of
this
year
is
what
council
directed
us
to
come
back
with
that
which
which
are
some
options
and
the
costs
for
them
in
the
absence
of
actually
having
any
specific
costs.
There
is
nothing
in
here.
The
work
that
we
are
doing
this
year
is
being
funded
internally
by
the
department.
Okay,
thank
you.
Z
Yesterday
I
asked
about
Park
amenity
renewal
and
how
that
gets
planned
for
in
the
budget
and
I
asked
I
had
to
ask
my
question
a
few
times,
but
Ms
John's
confirmed
that
critical
components
within
parks
are
prioritized
and
money
is
set
aside.
My
observation
is
particularly
in
parks
in
my
Warden
as
I
visit.
Other
parks
that
are
older.
Is
they
look
older,
that
amenities
are
worn
out
and
while
they
may
not
be
at
the
condition
of
their
unsafe,
for
the
public
to
to
use.
B
AB
Want
to
know
I
guess
from
a
financial
strategy
point
of
view
as
our
Parks
age.
Is
there
an
exponential
increase
in
the
funding
that
we're
allocating
to
recognize
like
any
other
asset,
as
it
gets
older,
you
have
to
put
more
resources
into
it.
Is
that
keeping
pace
when
I
speak
to
people
in
infrastructure
renewal?
They
say
that
our
allocation
is
not
matching
the
need
that
there
is
in
fact,
a
deficit,
a
renewal
deficit.
N
Significant
increases
again
this
year,
we
committed
to
closing
that
Gap
by
2026..
So
that's
the
overall
funding
Gap
that
was
done
in
2017..
We
will
be
coming
back
this
term
in
2024.
2025
time
frame
would
revise
versions
of
that
at
more
detailed
level
levels
due
to
the
amps
Mr
province's
legislative
municipalities
to
bring
forward.
So
thank
you,
yeah
I'm.
N
We
have
strategy
in
in
some
of
my
parks
where,
rather
than
renew
the
whole
playground
or
Park,
we'll
do
components
so
this
year,
we'll
replace
the
swing
set
and
maybe
three
years
from
now
we'll
do
the
slide
and
even
though
everything
else
has
come
to
the
end
of
its
life
cycle,
it's
not
in
a
critical
state.
So
we're
going
to
postpone
that
work
and
we're
going
to
impact
the
community
multiple
times
over
a.
B
B
I
would
never
push
back
on
fixing
or
repairing
an
amenity
that
is
broken
or
unsafe,
but
it's
a
bit
of
a
head
scratcher
for
some
of
my
older
parks
where
we're
doing
amenity
replacement,
and
it's
like
a
10-year
plan
or
a
12-year
plan
when
I
think
we
should
be
doing
it
all
at
once.
Finally,
my
last
question
is
just
about
the
coyote
management
strategy.
B
K
B
L
Yes,
thanks
for
repeating
the
question,
yes
in
terms
of
a
budget
need,
we
have
what
we
need
to
respond
and
come
back
with
that
revised
strategy
all
right.
Thank
you
mayor
on
that
point.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilor
Brockington.
Are
there
any
other
comments
or
questions
either
on
Council
or
Menards
porta
potty
motion,
as
it
was
referred
to
or
or
the
rest
of
the
community
and
Community
Services
committee
draft
operating
into
Capital
budgets?
L
B
E
I'd
like
to
register
descent,
okay
on
the
the
sorry,
the
community,
safety
and
well-being,
the
1A,
sorry,
which
one
the
community
safety
and
well-being
policy
1A.
Okay
within
item
D
on
the
agenda:
Mr
Mayor.
The
item
was
1A
on
the
community
services
committee
budget
roadmap.
In
this
case
it
would
be
under
8
D
community
services
and
Social
Services
General
manager's,
Office
business
support
services
and
Community
safety,
well-being
policy
and
analytics
operating
resource
requirements.
Thank
you,
Caitlin.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
item
8e
Community,
Services
committee
draft
capital
budget
is
that
carried?
E
AP
Thank
you,
mayor,
not
a
question
just
to
thanks
very
much
to
our
bylaw
folks,
for
having
heard
the
message
we
sent
at
the
Epps
with
respect
to
dogs
and
park
enforcement,
we
can
look
forward
to
some
increased
enforcement
as
a
result
of
some
of
that
discussion,
for
which
in
Residence
of
Giuseppe
are
grateful.
Thank
you
mayor.
AP
AP
AP
B
AA
Housing
account
to
be
increased
prior
to
that
long-range
financial
plan.
Update,
therefore,
be
it
resolve
that
the
sale
of
surplus
land
account
budget
be
increased
by
1
million
to
2.5
million
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
increase
in
revenue
from
the
sale
of
surplus
land
account
be
allocated
to
the
municipal
investment
in
affordable
housing
account
910-954.
AA
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
very
much
to
the
mayor
for
working
with
me,
probably
over
the
last
four
weeks
to
get
here.
I
think
there
was
an
acknowledgment
from
all
staff
at
the
planning
and
housing
committee
that
the
current
budget
for
affordable
housing
Capital
at
15
million
was
not
adequate
and
there
was
a
a
whole
willingness
to
accelerate
that
long-range
financial
plan,
but
that
the
budget
in
front
of
us
was
based
on
the
previous
long-range
financial
plan
and
that's
why
it
was
15
million.
AA
So
thank
you
very
much
to
my
colleagues
and
to
Mr
Mayor
for
for
getting
us
here.
Thank
you,
councilor
Johnson,
so
I'll
open
it
up
to
comments
or
questions
about
the
motion
and
about
the
planning
and
housing
committee
portion
of
the
draft
operating
and
capital
budget.
So
wherever
you'd
like
to
go
Council
or
truster.
AA
Thank
you.
So
much
mayor
I
wanted
to
recognize
councilor,
Johnson
and
the
mayor's
office
for
this
work.
I
think
it's
incredibly
important,
but
I
will
say
that
the
community
housing
providers
and
agencies
and
shelters
that
came
to
planning
housing
committee
were
asking
for
an
increase
of
a
minimum
of
five
million
dollars.
AA
AR
It's
very
important,
and
you
know
we
have
20
000.
Sorry,
we
have
12
000
people
on
the
wait
list
for
affordable
housing
in
our
city.
I
think
we
all
agree.
We
need
to
massively
scale
up
our
investment
in
affordable
housing
and
I
hope
that
this
is
a
sign
of
things
to
come,
because
I'd
like
to
see
this
budget
doubled
next
year,
but
we'll
get
there
thanks
for
getting
us
to
this
point,
though
councilor
Johnson
and
mayor
Sutcliffe.
AA
AR
I'm
very
happy
with
it,
both
as
a
counselor
and
as
chair
of
Ottawa
Community
Housing,
who
is
a
major
partner
with
the
city
on
creating
more
affordable
housing
and
just
a
reminder
that
this
is
a
start
that
should
be
treated
as
a
start.
This
should
not
be
considered
okay,
we
were
there
and
also
we
need
to
continue
to
push
and
Lobby
if
I.
AA
AA
Thank
you.
Councilor
Kavanaugh
I'll
add
my
own
expression
of
gratitude
to
counselor
Johnson
for
initiating
this
and
working
closely
with
me
and
with
my
office
on
moving
this
forward
and
as
councilor
Kavanaugh
just
said,
I
think
it
is
just
a
start
and
it
is
important
that
we
are
working
with
other
levels
of
government
and
leveraging
whatever
investment
we're
making
in
affordable
housing,
going
forward
to
to
capitalize
on
other
initiatives
like
the
rapid,
Housing,
Initiative
and
others,
and.
P
Be
used
to
build,
affordable
housing
going
forward,
so
we
will
have
a
lot
more
work
to
do
on
this
issue
in
the
weeks
ahead.
I
expect
it
will
be
a
big
part
of
our
discussions
around
the
term
of
council
priorities,
so
I
look
forward
to
working
with
everyone
on
that.
Are
there
any
other
comments
or
questions
on
the
motion
or
on
the
planning
and
housing
committee
portion
of
the
budget?
P
Okay,
is
the
motion
carried
just
for
the
dissent
on
I'm,
very
grateful
for
the
motion,
but
still
I'm
dissenting
on
I,
believe
item
10B
the
planning
and
has
been
Community
Drive
capital
budget?
Okay
for
the
motion,
but
you're
not
dissenting
on
the
motion?
No,
definitely:
okay,
okay!
So
on
the
remainder
of
the
budget,
so
item
10A
one
and
two
and
item
10B
is
that
carried
any
other
dissents
on
either
10A
or
10B.
S
S
There
are
two
components
of
free
fares
that
had
to
be
addressed.
One
was
the
zero
to
seven
year
old.
Sorry,
the
six
and
seven
year
olds
that
we
provided
free
fair
to
as
of
last
year,
that
had
to
have
a
funding
source
identified
from
2023
and
going
forward,
and
then
the
new
piece
are
the
children
who
are
aged
8
to
12
also
comes
with
a
cost.
So
my
appreciation
to
staff
who
looked
at
this
matter
and
came.
AB
Savings
and
diesel
fuel
which
provides
an
offset
and
which
can
be
carried
forward
at
that
point,
so
I'll
just
read.
The
therefore
Clause
excuse
me
that
transit
fare
is
for
children.
Aged
8
to
12,
shall
become
free
of
charge
and
go
into
effect
on
July,
1st
2023
and
that
fares
for
children,
age,
zero
to
seven
continue
as
well
into
2023,
and
that
both
fares
on
an
ongoing
basis
and
the
356
000
budget
pressure
be
funded
by
a
356
000
reduction.
AR
AR
Thank
you,
your
worship
and
I'm
introducing
a
motion
concerning
the
reinstatement
of
bus
service
to
Water
Edge
Village.
That's
a
new
community
in
on
the
former
rockleaf
Air
Force
Base,
where
many
residents
have
contacted
me,
especially
those
who
work
in
the
public
service
who
have
children
and
who
want
to
take
Transit
downtown
and
to
shop.
So
this
is
representative
of
their
concerns.
Therefore,
be
it
resolve.
AR
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
thank
you.
Councilor
King
and
councilor
Carr
I
believe,
has
a
motion
as
well.
Yes,
hi!
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Mayor
and
I.
Don't
normally
like
to
do
things
on
the
fly,
but
had
a
lot
of
interest
in
the
past
24
hours
about
the
scaffolding
at
Herdman
station
I'm,
going
to
first
acknowledge
that
the
station
is
actually
inside
counselor,
Menards
Ward,
but
just
barely
and
I
tend
to
take
ownership
of
it.
AR
Much
as
he
seems
to
take
ownership
of
all
four
corners
of
Bank
in
Riverside,
so
I
will
just
briefly
the
scaffolding
at
Herdman
station
is
was
designed
to
be
temporary.
It's
not
the
best
looking
in
the
world,
but
it
certainly
is
the
only
thing
that
provides
any
protection
from
the
the
elements
and,
if
you've
got
a
long
track
down
to
the
44
like
I.
Do
it's
really
needed?
I
know
that
there's
been
a
permanent
solution
asked
but
I'd
like
us
to
look
at
extending
the
temporary.
AQ
AQ
AB
AB
AB
B
This
motion,
I
think,
speaks
to
to
that
in
some
ways
that
we're
trying
to
get
lifelong
users
the
best
way
to
do
that
is
really
Transit,
ridership
and
so
I
think
this
will
encourage
not
only
those
those
12
and
unders,
but
the
the
parents,
the
Guardians
of
those
children,
to
get
on
the
bus
and
we'll
encourage
them.
I
think
we'll
see
I
think
we'll
see
a
savings
as.
B
B
AF
Think
OC
Transfer
might
even
use
that
now.
So
look
I
I
do
want
to
thank
you
in
all
seriousness,
councilor
Brockington
for
the
work
in
this
area.
I
know
he
had
brought
the
motion
previously
around
seven-year-olds
and
gradually
kind
of
moving
that
up.
I
know.
Odsp
is
another
big
area
that
we
might
look
at
in
the
future,
but
wholeheartedly
support
the
motion
for
a
very
you
know,
cost
effective
way
of
doing
it
on
the
the
cost
to
purchase
or
the
the
the
counselor
car
motion.
AF
I
did
have
some
questions
to
staff,
about
the
scaffolding
and
I
and
I
guess
the
question
is
we,
you
know
I
had
put
forward
a
a
direction
previously
at
Transit
Commission
to
have
staff
report
back
on
the
the
capital
cost
and
come
back
to
Transit
Commission.
Do
you
anticipate
a
gap
in
in
that
in
that
service
that
we
offer
right
now,
which
is
more
important,
I
think
in
the
in
the
summertime
than
it
is
in
the
winter
time?
AF
Because
of
the
shading
right
that
transit
station
was
not
designed
as
well
as
it
could
be.
I,
don't
think
and
I'm
wondering
do
you
appreciate?
Do
you
anticipate
a
gap
in
that
in
that
service
in
the
summer,
and
then
the
second
question
is
around
the
cost
to
purchasing
the
scaffolding.
I
saw
how
much
it
cost
to
rent
over
that
time.
Could
we
not
have
purchased
that
scaffolding
for
a
for
a
cheaper
amount
and
just
and
owned
it
to
have
it
in
in
perpetuity
until
a
more
permanent
solution
could
be
found.
AF
AF
Until
the
end
of
April,
then
that's
when
we'd
be
seeking
to
take
it
down,
and
you
know
we
would
be
continuing
to
work
and
see
if
we
can
get
a
more
appropriate
long-term
solution
in
before
the
bad
weather
next
year.
Just
just
a
comment
mayor
that
the
I
think
Herman
versus
Tony's
that
there
is
a
I
think
a
greater
need
at
hurtman.
Certainly
I,
don't
know
if
counselor
leaper
would
agree
or
not,
but
I
think
that
when.
AR
AR
For
for
Route
17
to
be
restored
to
Waterbridge
Village
I
do
want
to
note
that
currently
there
is
an
all-day
route
that
runs
in
that
Village
Route
27
does
go
to
Saint
Laurent
station
and
I
do
believe
it.
It
in
fact
runs
all
day.
It
runs
midday
as
well,
so
it
like
my
I,
don't
want
us
to
get
into
the
details
and
nitty-gritty
of
the
route
planning
because
I'm
sure
every
single
one
of
us
around
the
table
here.
AM
Have
roots
that
were
suspended
in
June
of
2021
that
we
want
to
bring
back
service
levels
that
we
want
to
bring
back.
So
this
is
not
not
a
motion
that
I
want
that
I'm
gonna
support,
because
it's
it
it
probably
opens
the
gates
for
all
of
us
to
to
you
know:
I
want
I
want
171
service
in
the
weekend,
I'm
sure
counselor
Hill
wants
275
back
and
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
AM
B
Free
transit
for
the
Youth
I
just
want
to
commit
I
am
a
hundred
percent
in
favor
of
improving
our
ridership
on
our
transit
system.
I
want
to
seek
the
the
best
options
in
order
to
get
to
that
space.
I
think
in
the
near
term,
I'd
measure
that
over
the
next
couple
years,
I
think
the
best
mechanism
to
get
there
is.
AQ
Twofold
one
of
them,
it
is
improving
our
operational
Communications
with
Transit
Riders,
so
that
when
somebody
knows
that
their
bus
arrives
at
702,
they
show
up
at
the
right
time
the
right
place
and
it
arrives
at
the
right
time.
That'll
be
the
first
piece.
The
second
one
would
be
in
the
subscription
model
that
we're
offering
to
folks,
which
I
think
is
a
bit
outdated.
Just
given
the
hybrid
model.
B
B
B
L
B
There's
several
approaches
that
we
took
in
building
the
budget
porosity
transpo
to
respond
to
the
situation
we
find
ourselves
in
with
inflation,
many
inflationary
costs,
with
also
with
the
substantial
costs
of
opening
the
two
new
train
lines
later
this
year.
The
first
was
to
look
very
carefully
at
all
aspects
of
our
operating
budget
and
the
biggest
thing
there
was
that
we
can
reduce
some
of
our
bus
maintenance.
AP
B
City's
largest
employer,
the
federal
government
asking
its
employees
to
work
on
site
only
half
the
time.
The
next
thing
we
did
was
look
very
closely
at
our
Capital
expenditures
required
in
2023
and
especially
those
ones
which
are
funded
almost
directly
from
the
operating
budget,
and
we
found
several
things
that
we
can
do
there.
Some.
F
Mr
Mayor,
we
had
a
just
the
the
service
based
on
the
level
of
what
that
we
saw
during
the
pandemic.
Actually,
this
the
level
of
the
service
is
very
good
for
the
amount
of
people
who
are
taking
Transit
and,
as
my
colleague
said,
the
rejection
that
we
proposed
today
are
only
for
this
year.
Unfortunately,
it's
not
it's
not
recurrent,
so
we
will
continue
to
work
with
with
my
my
partner,
my
colleagues,
to
to
be
able
to
identify
other
things
to
continue
to
have
a
good
service,
but
with
the
lower
costs
possible.
F
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
I
think
it's
a
chicken
and
egg
thing,
because
if
you
have
low
ridership,
you
might
decrease
service,
but
then
the
service
becomes
less
reliable
if
there's
less
frequency.
So
this
is
something
that
I
am
seriously
concerned
about
and
I
hear
constantly
from
residents
who
don't
think
they're
getting
good
service
for
mostly
transpo
and
I,
know
you're
all
working
very
hard,
but
you
know
cutting
I'm
very
concerned
about
about
cuts
to
Transit.
F
AL
Permanent
fix
and
to
don't
rely
anymore
on
these
rental.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
and,
and
you
know
just
I
really
believe
we
need
to
build
a
city
that
works
for
people
and
having
Shelter
From.
The
elements
is
a
pretty
pretty
key
piece
of
making
Transit
work
for
people
in
this
city
anyway.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Councilor
truster,
just
a
quick
follow-up
on
your
earlier
questions.
AL
AQ
Thank
you
very
much
mayor
mayor,
I'm,
going
to
be
moving
with
councilor
Brockington
seconding
correct
that
the
car
motion
with
respect
to
directing
staff
to
retain
the
scaffolding
at
Herman
station
be
amended
to
include
Chinese
pasture
station
I
hadn't
anticipated
that
we
would
be
making
this
effort
today.
But
if
Herdman
is
going
to
be
retained,
I
need
to
insist
that
Chinese.
AL
AL
N
Those
shelters
are
small.
This
is
an
extremely
crowded
station
during
peak
hours.
There
is
insufficient
space
in
the
shelter
it
is
about.
I
just
did
a
quick
drawing
on
Geo
Ottawa,
it's
about
200
meters
from
the
exit
from
the
station
area
to
a
stop
D,
where
folks
wait
for
their
best.
This
is
for,
for
the
south
end,
so
I
will
be
putting
out
amendments
on
the
floor
unless
it's
considered
friendly
by
counselor
Carr.
N
N
AS
Works
in
progress,
the
same
funding
source,
so
just
the
the
motion-
Remains,
the
Same
and
I-
think
Caitlyn
probably
has
the
sense
of
it
to
modify
the
language
and
the
first
be
it
resolve
that
says.
Herdman
station
to
read,
Herdman
and
Tony's
pasture
stations
and
the
funding
sources
remain
the
same
so
I'm
sure
other
counselors
will
have
questions
about
that.
But
I
guess
the
first
I'll
just
ask
on
behalf
of
everyone.
AS
Do
you
need
a
calculator
I
I
between
the
two
between
the
two
stations?
It
would
be
for
four
months,
so
one
third
of
the
year
that
would
come
out
to
about
two
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
for
the
year
for
both
stations
combined
in
comparison
to
we
were
the
Herdman
station.
Installation
is
smaller,
and
so
it
would
have
been.
It
would
have
been
less
than
half
of
that
it
would
have
been
in.
U
A
N
This
isn't
a
regulated
market,
so
it's
it's
whatever.
Our
current
supplier
would
charge
us
so
Mr,
Mayor,
I,
guess
effectively.
What
this
does
is.
It
adds
about
160,
000
or
so
requirement
more
for
Transit
defined
through
their
existing
Capital
Works
in
progress
program.
The
fine
net
funding
I
caution,
taking
any
more
risks.
AS
That
you
know
you
can't
give
allow
us
to
one
kid
and
not
give
allowance
to
another
kid
in
this
scenario,
so
I'm
supportive
of
supporting
you
with
having
both
there.
If
that's
what
the
decision
is
so
can
I
ask
for
an
opinion
from
from
OC
Transfer
on
whether
it's
as
important
and
as
helpful,
to
maintain
the
scaffolding
at
Tony's
pasture
as
it
is
at
Herdman
station,
particularly
given
that
it's
more
expensive
to
do
so
at
Tony's
pasture.
AS
AR
The
sorry
go
ahead:
counselor
leaper,
sorry
were
you
speaking,
oh
yeah,
no
I
was
just
going
to
say:
let's
continue
to
hear
from
people
about
the
three
original
motions,
counselor
leapers
motion
and
anything
else
to
do
with
the
Transit
Commission
budget.
Thank
you
just
I
I
would
say.
Thank
you
very
much
to
the
answers
for
mostly
transpo
I
think
it
is
an
equity
issue
between
the
folks
who
are
using
the
different
stations
across
the
city.
N
Already
I'm
just
wondering
if
I
could
ask
a
question
of
clarification,
which
I
think
may
help,
because
I
don't
understand.
The
answer
we
just
received
are
the
resources
that
we're
debating
not
to
cover
a
12-month
calendar
year
or
just
seasonal
I.
Just
need
that
clarification.
So
my
understanding
is
the
motion
from
counselor
Carr
was
to
maintain
the
scaffolding
until
April
30th.
Is
that
not
how
it's
worded
and
that
staff
be
we'll
come
back
with
suggested
improvements.
N
So,
do
you
want
to
speak
to
that
counselor
car,
or
do
you
want
to
stop
to
speak
to
that
I
think
it's
best
if
staff
speak
to
it,
but
my
understanding
was
that
the
scaffolding
we
were
going
to
make
sure
that
it
could
stay
up
through
the
rainy
weather
until
April
30th.
We
may
not
be
able
to
have
it
throughout
the
summer,
but
you're
looking
for
you're
going
to
come
back
with
costing
on
a
more
permanent
solution.
N
Z
Z
If
we
were
looking
at
this
today
and
saying,
should
we
if
we
we
did
not
have
any
scaffolding-
and
this
was
in
front
of
us
saying-
should
we
invest
700
000
a
year
in
new
scaffolding?
I
think
this
Council
would
have
a
hard
time
approving
that
when
you
think
of
where
that
money
could
be
invested
elsewhere,
I
mean
think
of
all
the
porta
potties
you
can
rent
with
700
000.
It's
a
lot
of
money
for
temporary
scaffolding,
so
I'm
glad.
We
also
have
this
part
of
this.
Z
A
commitment
from
staff
to
look
at
a
more
permanent
solution
that
will
address
the
issues
at
Herdman
station
and
tunnies
as
well
on
King's
motion.
I,
won't
vote
against
it,
but
just
reminding
all
counselors.
If
you
have
ideas
about
Roots
staff,
are
always
willing
to
have
a
look
at
that.
I
have
a
route
61
in
my
award
that
we
want
to
improve
to
provide
better
access
for
employees
of
long-term
care
homes
and
staff
is,
is
doing
some
research
on
that.
Z
Z
But
on
that
I
point
out,
Toronto
has
asked
for
367
million
dollars
they're
in
much
the
same
boat
as
us
in
terms
of
reduced
ridership,
so
I
think
39
million
dollars
is
a
pretty
modest.
Ask
Montreal
has
asked
their
provincial
government
for
82
million
dollars,
so
this
is
a
problem
that
many
cities
are
facing
and
I
think
it's
realistic
for
us
to
look
onto
other
levels
of
government.
Z
Some
cities
in
Canada
are
lucky
that
provincial
governments
provide
them
with
dedicated
funding
year
after
year
after
year,
not
just
inside
a
pandemic,
so
I
don't
think.
39
million
is
an
unreasonable
request
to
make
to
the
provincial
government,
given
how
essential
Transit
is
to
our
community,
and
my
last
thought
is.
We
can't
reiterate
enough:
the
operations
line
of
this
budget
is
five
percent
higher
than
it
was
in
2022.
27.5
million
dollars
more
that's.
A
five
percent
increase
towards
operations.
Z
It'll
allow
the
OC
transport
team
to
hire
the
equivalent
of
112
full-time
equivalents
that
that
includes
a
lot
of
new
drivers
to
address
reliability.
So
our
job
as
council
is
to
make
sure
OC
transfers
funded,
so
they
can
deliver
the
level
of
service
that
we've
been
asking
for,
and
this
budget
does
that
so
I
will
support
it
and
I
hope
counselors
will
support
it
as
well.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Counselor
Gower
counselor
Katz.
Z
Z
P
AP
Frequently
on
that,
thank
you
and
we
have
been
having
some
I
have
been
having
some
good
chats
with
staff
about
that
route
in
particular.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
and
again
just
for
clarity
this.
If
this
motion
passes
it,
it
doesn't
mean
that
it's
going
to
be
prioritized
over
other
routes.
Is
that
correct,
correct,
Mr,
Mayor,
no
prioritize,
because
we
receive
a
motion.
P
AR
S
We're
setting
ourselves
up
that
the
this
budget
is
already
pre-cut,
but
you
know
the
roots
and
that
it's
counting
on
cuts
and
we're
okaying
that
today.
So
please
give
me
some
clarification
on
that,
because
we're
having
the
budget
now
but
we're
going
to
discuss,
let's
face
it,
they're
probably
going
to
be
root.
Cuts
I,
don't
think
there'll
be
expansions
very
much
anyway.
So
please
clarify
how
that
works
within
the
budget.
S
AT
AT
From
what
you're
saying
is
it's
going
to
be
lined
up
with
that
opening
of
stage
two,
the
the
changes,
which
means
that,
well
the
part,
the
part
that
is
going
to
be
opening
anyway,
because
it's
not
going
to
be
opening
in
the
west?
We
know
that
it's
17
months
behind
it's
going
to
be
at
the
earliest
2026..
So
would
that
mean
that
there
would
be
no
root
changes
in
that
area
for
the
West
End.
AT
AT
L
I'll
be
attending
when
I
can,
when
I
was
I
had
two
motions
that
seemed
to
be
very
relevant.
I
did
have
a
motion
about
GPS,
robot,
reliability
and
I,
move
that
I
believe
in
2019
about
having
more
reliable
service
through
apps
to
know
when
your
your
bus
is
coming
and
I'd
like
an
update
on
that.
Please.
L
So
I
appreciate
that
again.
I
want
to
thank
councilor
Brockington
on
the
motion
on
free
trips
for
kids.
If
I
can
say
that
if
I
can
see
grandparents
on
Wednesdays
and
Sundays,
getting
the
kids
and
the
parents
are
still
at
home,
of
course,
because
they're
still
working
and
they're
not
using
their
services,
but
the
kids
and
the
grandparents
will
probably
be
doing
it.
So.
L
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Mayor,
so
I
I
will
be
voting
against
the
budget.
Renee
and
I
want
to
express
to
you
and
to
Pat
that
this
is
not
a
lack
of
confidence
in
what
you
can
do.
This
is
my
my
signal
that
we
need
to
do
better
and
for
the
people
of
college
Ward
who
want
to
use
Transit.
They
are
looking
forward
to
it
being
a
reliable
service
for
them,
but
as
it
stands,
given
the
constraints
that
I
believe
this
budget
puts
on
your
team,
we
won't
be
able
to
do
so.
L
I
have
Bell's
Corners
in
my
ward,
Bell's
Corners
is
you
know
the
connectivity
to
Belle's
Corners
is
really
tricky
and
we
did
see
service
Cuts
during
the
pandemic
to
that
area
and
for
them
to
get
to
the
new
LRT.
They
actually
have
to
go
over
the
Queen's
way
to
get
there,
so
we're
going
to
have
to
to
give
them
the
incentive
to
change
their
behavior
they're,
going
to
have
they're
going
to
pass
where
they
can
get
on
The
Queensway
with
their
car
on
a
bus
to
get
to
where
the
LRT
is
going
to
go.
AM
L
AM
You
know
when
speaking
with
Pat,
like
you
OC,
Transfer
I,
believe,
is
one
of
the
few
departments,
one
of
the
few
departments
where,
if
we
give
them
more,
they
can
do
more.
If
we
give
them
more,
they
can
try
and
get
that
chicken
before
the
egg.
If
I
may,
they
can
put
the
roots
out
and
see
what
the
uptake
is.
If
we
continue
to
create
a
situation
where
the
ridership.
L
Has
to
show
evidence
for
the
roots,
then
we
will
not
be
able
to
get
the
data.
We
need
to
make
better
informed
decisions,
and
so
my
dissenting
on
this
budget
is
is
not
a
lack
of
confidence
in
your
leadership.
It
is.
It
is
the
understanding
that
I
don't
think
in
2023,
as
it's
currently
built
we're
going
to
be
able
to
get
there
for
the
residents
of
college
Ward.
This
Buzz
this
budget
does
just
not
give
staff
the
tools
that
they
need
to
give
citizens
the
transit
they
deserve.
AM
With
these
two
motions
with
respect
to
the
scaffolding
I
think
actually,
this
is
the
closest
Peter
to
pay
Paul
situation
that
we've
had
so
far
because
we're
actually
asking
transit
to
take
within
their
own
budget
to
be
able
to
pay
for
scaffolding
for
for
basic
element
Shades.
That
is
a
really
sad
situation.
So
I,
don't
envy
your
position.
I
I
respect
you
all
immensely,
but
I
don't
believe
that
the
current
2.5
Levy
is
going
to
be
able
to
adequately
meet
the
needs
of
college
Warden
residents
for
OC
Transfer
I.
AM
L
AQ
AT
AT
AT
I
see
this
as
a
risk
management
exercise
in
terms
of
identifying
the
health
and
safety
issues
for
our
Transit
Riders
versus
the
the
budgetary
pressures
that
we'll
face
by
by
looking
at
this,
this
increased
cost
and
I
guess.
My
question
is:
do
we
have
any
statistics
or
any
data
that
we
can
use
to
identify?
You
know
the
risks
to
our
Transit
Riders
as
from
whether
it's
a
heat
stroke
or
a
health
hazards
perspective
of
not
having
these
in
place
and
and
then
from
there?
AA
Or
there's
no
health
and
safety
issue
linked
to
these
shelters,
even
if
I
wasn't
here
at
that
time,
when
the
train
was
deployed,
their
there
were,
issues
are
linked
to
the
train
and
the
ridership
is
very,
very
high.
At
that
time,
many
people
were
inside
the
station
at
one
time
and
many
people
had
to
wait
outside.
This
is
why
we
decided
to
set
up
these
temporary
shelters
and
we
know
what
happened.
Unfortunately,
in
March
2020,
the
pandemic
struck.
AA
Ridership
went
down
considerably
without
boasting
we're
working
with
our
partners
to
reduce
breakdowns,
so
there
are
fewer
people
who
have
to
wait
outside,
because
people
can
now
wait
inside
the
station
because
there
are
more
trains
now.
We
hope
that
ridership
will
pick
up
in
the
future
that
people
will
be
able
to
wait
inside
the
station
because
there'll
be
fewer
breakdowns.
AA
AA
In
the
past,
we've
decided
to
build
this
scaffold
owning
scaffolding,
for
the
reasons
that
we
have
set
out,
but
we
don't
think
it's
necessary
today,
but
the
OC
transport
we
think,
will
be
able
to
come
up
with
a
prominent
solution
and
we
want
to
be
required
to
pay
rental
on
a
yearly
basis.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Brockington.
AA
Thank
you
mayor.
When
we
first
opened
the
LRT,
we
immediately
heard
from
passengers
about
their
experience
at
Tunis
at
Herdman
and
at
Blair
in
particular,
and
what
passengers
said
was.
They
were
exposed
to
the
elements
and
they
were
quite
concerned
that,
despite
not
the
most
longest
walk
in
the
world,
getting
from
one
LRT
stop
to
their
local
bus,
stop
which
would
then
take
them
on
to
their
connection,
was
exposing
them
to
all
elements.
AA
B
B
K
As
a
major
issue
causing
reliability
issue
and
we're
providing
more
ft's
in
this
budget,
which
is
very
good
and
Mr
scrimzier
at
Transit
Commission
stated
that
a
number
of
bus
routes,
their
schedules-
are
being
reviewed
for
realistic
times
on
those
routes
and
he
listed
about
a
dozen
off
the
top
of
it
off
of
his
head.
So
I
appreciate
that,
because
I
do
believe,
those
two
are
contributing
to
reliability,
issues
not
the
whole
picture,
but
certainly
a
good
proportion.
K
K
We
get
reliability,
performance
percentages
every
month,
97
98,
the
GM's
goal
is
99.5
and
I
do
want
to
be
able
to
see
and
track
the
number
of
daily
run
cancellations
that
happen,
because
I
think
that
metric
is
very
important
as
well.
The
second
component
I'm
concerned
about
is
the
projected
deficit
and
I
just
wanted
clarification
from
the
city
treasure
again.
What
that
number
is
what
what
are
we
projecting?
As
our
deficit
before
an
upper
level
of
government
offset.
K
K
K
K
In
2022
we
anticipated
or
projected
a
quite
a
substantial
deficit.
We
believe
we
were
going
to
be
receiving
an
offset.
We
received
a
majority
of
that
offset,
but
not
the
full
amount.
What
is
our
plan
to
offset
any
difference
between
the
full
projects
that
and
a
number
less
than
that
that
we
received
from
an
upper
level
of
government?
What's
our
plan
to
cover
off
the
rest,
so
Mr
Mayor
to
you're
correct?
We
did
have
a
good
commitment
that
we
received
63
million
back
in
November,
December
time
frame
in
that
letter
from
our
partners.
K
Above
us,
there
was
mentioned
that
municipalities
could
have
the
opportunity
to
go
back
this
year
to
subsidize
or
find
the
remaining
deficit
for
2022.
The
projection
right
now
for
2022
is
around
that
2022
24
million
dollar
deficit.
Obviously
you
know
our
mitigations.
Are
we
go
to
our
reserves
first
and
then
from
there,
we'd
have
to
go
into
more
Capital
cuts
to
kind
of
find
the
funding
it.
Obviously,
as
a
last
Reserve
or
last
last,
step
would
be
you.
B
Know,
service,
Cuts
or
boring
from
other
reserves
as
a
final
mitigation
strategy,
and
do
we
have
any
indication
when,
in
this
calendar
year,
we
will
have
a
more
definite
idea
about
the
payment
that
we
were
going
to
receive
Mr
Mayor?
My
expectation
would
be
you
know,
sometime
over
the
next
month
or
two.
G
The
challenge
we
have
I
guess
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
is
our
upper
Partners.
Provincial
and
federal
their
calendar
year
is
March
31st,
so
they
obviously
need
to
go
through
their
process
and
and
get
all
the
submissions
from
the
municipalities
for
what
they
required
in
2022
from
there.
Then
you
got
to
go
through
the
process
that
they
reach
out
and
then
we'll
resubmit.
G
AM
P
P
P
P
I
support
other
pieces
of
this
budget
around
a
fair
freeze
and
a
push
to
try
to
get
more
drivers
hired
to
reduce
the
the
scheduling
issues
that
we've
been
seeing
support
those
pieces,
but
there's
a
large
chunk
as
well
that
I
have
concerns
about
with
previous
reductions
and
so
I
think
it's
important.
We
recognize
today
that
in
in
2020
we
made
Fairly
significant
reductions
because
of
the
pandemic,
but.
Y
The
argument
was
made
earlier
today
about
service
in
our
Awards
about
you
know
what
I
consider
to
be
an
important
innovation
in
policing
that
will
deliver
better
outcomes,
but
the
former
mayor's
argument
was
used
that
if,
if
you
don't
want,
you
know
more
police
resources
in
your
ward,
then
then
that
that
you
know
then
you'll
take
them
right.
Transfer
them
over
to
to
another.
Y
But
the
difference
is
when
we
made
those
reductions.
Our
ridership
was
much
lower
than
it
is
today.
That's
a
fact
right.
We're
projecting
I
think.
Is
it
80
by
the
end
of
this
year,
75
to
80,
and
so
when
we
made
those
reductions,
though
we
were
at
45,
so
we've
had
increases
in
ridership,
but
those
service
level
reductions
have
been
maintained.
Y
But
on
this
piece
this
is
one
that
I
I'm
concerned
that
the
service
that
we're
that
we're
seeing
experiencing
we
get
emails
about
daily
is
going
to
be
tough
to
improve
without
some
enhancements
financially
to
to
do
so.
So
mayor
I
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
hear
me
today
and
I'm
all
descent
on
that
11a
item.
Y
P
AQ
Mr
bear
the
the
profile
Through
The
Years,
based
on
starting
the
year
at
65,
ending
the
year
at
75
percent
for
an
average
for
the
full
year
of
70
percent.
Great.
Thank
you.
Counselor
Divine
go
ahead.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor!
It's
it's
interesting.
How
much
longer
we're
we're
going
to
be
here
today
than
we
had
perhaps
anticipated
and
I
think
that,
what's
that
is
telling
me
are,
are
two
things.
AQ
First
of
all
that
that
we
as
as
counselors,
are
all
benefiting,
sir
from
the
very
receptive
and
welcoming
and
collaborative
tone
that
you
have
set
for
us,
Mr
Mayor,
for
which
I
am
grateful
and
for
which
I
I
think
you
deserve
to
be
commended
it.
It
takes
leadership
to
make
space
for
this
level
of
dissent
and
I'm
grateful
for
it,
but
the
amount
of
time
we're
spending
here
today
is
also
for
me
an
indication
that
the
draft
budget
that
we
have
before
us
has
gaps
in.
L
Our
roadmap
and
these
gaps
are
showing
that
this
budget
might
not
be
needing
the
needs
of
the
many
as
many
residents
of
our
city,
as
we'd
hoped
for
with
regards
to
Transit
I
am
going
to
be
dissenting
on
the
transit
budget
and
I
applaud
what
my
counselor,
my
colleague,
Uncle
Johnson,
said
Madam
amalcar.
That
is
not
a
a
comment
on
on
your
leadership.
L
Transit,
reliability
and
specifically
bus
reliability
in
my
ward,
was
absolutely
among
the
top
three
issues
and
so
I'm
just
I'm
not
supporting
the
budget,
because
I'm
concerned
that
what
we
that
we
are
not
doing
enough
to
ensure
that
our
public
transit
becomes
the
vital
service
that
we
needed
to
be
at
a
critical
time.
When,
in
my
opinion,
and
in
the
opinions
of
many
in
my
ward,
we
should
be
doing
everything
we
can
to
bring
Riders
back.
L
Our
transit
system
has
been
hit
with
so
many
challenges
lately,
whether
they
be
operational
or
technical
or
service
or
even
reputational,
and
all
of
those
challenges
are
making
it
very
hard
indeed
to
attract
and
retain
new
Riders,
which
I
believe
should
be
our
long-term
Focus.
The
issue
of
it's
interesting
that
the
issue
of
scaffolding
has
come
up
and
I'm
grateful
we're
having
the
conversation
of
scaffolding
and
that
we
might
be
making
amendments
to
it
and
I
I.
L
Respect
with
what
one
of
my
colleagues
was
saying
was
that
with
regards
to
scaffolding
and
and
how
to
solve
that
problem
that
the
problem
of
scaffolding
at
Herdman
might
be
easier
to
solve,
because
it's
a
smaller
problem
and
therefore
a
cheaper
problem
to
solve,
but
for
the
Riders,
whether
you're
at
Herdman
or
or
tunnies.
It's
the
same
challenge
you're
facing
that
and
I
I
have
been
a
writer
at
Tony's
many
times
and
it's
extremely
disincentivizing
to
stand
there.
L
It's
a
really
long,
walk
from
Tony's
to
the
end
stations
on
The
Concourse
that
take
you
to
ward
nine.
It's
a
very,
very
disincentivizing
experience
to
be
sitting
there
and
I'm,
not
so
much
concerned
about
the
risk
and
safety
of
standing
out
in
the
rain
I'm
concerned
about
providing
a
lousy
service
for
those
customers
and.
AL
AO
You
know
yeah
it's
it's
226.
anyway,
counselor
Brown,
please.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Mayor
and
I
have
a
question
for
Mr,
Rogers
and
I
appreciated
counselor
brockington's
line
of
questioning
it
answered
many
of
my
own
questions
but
Mr
Rogers
I'm,
hoping
you
can
explain
to
me
how
Reserve
funds
are
funded.
How
do
we
ensure
that
we
have
money
going
into
those
Reserve
accounts
every
year,
Mr
Mayor
first,
just
call
me
Cyril,
makes
me
feel
younger.
The
reserves
are
basically
for
from
a
Transit
perspective.
B
Funding
into
the
capital
reserve
for
for
Transit
and
we
obviously
add
some
money
to
the
operating
Reserve
as
well.
Okay,
and
in
in
your
part
of
your
explanation
to
councilor
Brockington,
you
said:
if
we
didn't
have
enough
in
the
transit
Reserve
we'd
have
to
go
to
other
reserves.
What
other
Reserve
account?
Would
we
draw
upon
Mr
Mayor?
So
we
would
go
to
our
Transit
capital
reserve
first,
then,
of
course
we
would
go
through
a
stage
approach
in
terms
of
Financial
Risk
mitigations
discretionary
spending
freeze,
try
and
keep
it
contained
within
Transit.
If.
B
C
B
For
the
third
time
now
for
this
topic
there,
there
seems
to
be
a
bit
of
a
misconception
that,
by
throwing
just
just
throwing
money
at
public
transit
that
we're
going
to
improve
the
servicemen,
there
are
a
lot
of
other
that's
partially
true.
Actually,
but
then
there
are
also
a
lot
of
other
factors
that
are
affecting
the
current
service.
Reliability.
I
know
that
staffing
has
been
a
long-standing
issue
before
you
know,
before
the
LRT,
before
the
introduction
of
the
30-minute
Break
by
by
the
CLC.
B
A
lot
of
the
labor
issues
that
we
had
before
were
able
to
be
covered
by
overtime
staff
might
comment
on
this
later
on,
if
I'm
wrong
in
any
way.
But
a
lot
of
these
issues
now
are
we
just
The?
Operators
are
just
not
there
and
by
throwing
more
money
at
it,
it's
not
going
to
speed
up
the
hiring
process.
It's
not
going
to
screen
more
people
in
it's
not
going
to
speed
up
the
training
process,
because
we
want
operators
who
are
qualified.
B
We
don't
want
operators
who
know
how
to
operate
their
vehicles
safely,
as
well
as
manage
any
issues
that
come
up
when
they're
on
the
road.
So
I
was
wondering
if
staff
can
comment
on
kind
of
the
Staffing
picture
right
now
like
how
how
many
of
our
canceled
trips
are
a
result
of
no
operators.
And
how
far
are
we
right
now
in
filling
those
vacant
operator,
positions.
U
AJ
AI
J
C
G
AJ
C
C
S
C
B
L
A
good
thing
for
me
could
be
zero
cancellations.
Unfortunately,
we
will
need
to
accept
a
80
cancellations
during
a
weekday
and
10
12
cancellations
during
the
weekend
during
the
weekend.
We're
performing
very,
very
well.
The
challenge
is
during
the
weekday
and
I
would
say.
Probably
50
percent
of
my
cancellations
are
related
to
people
who
will
not
we're
not
there
either
because
they
don't
show
up
or
I,
don't
have
sufficient
bus
drivers
as
I
said,
but
it's
it's
very
hard
to
finger
point.
L
One
reason,
because
it's
a
combination
of
factors
and
tocc
is
trying
to
do
to
do
his
best
to
to
control
that,
so
it's
not
very,
very
well
identified,
but
we
can
come
with
with
more
information
at
Transit
Commission.
If
you,
if
you
would
like
to
see
that
okay
I'll,
ask
you
that
on
Friday
yeah
thanks
thanks,
councilor
low
councilor
Brockington.
Thank
you
mayor.
L
If
we
finish
this
calendar
year
at
75
percent
of
our
pre-coveted
ridership,
how
many
more
years
is
it
going
to
take
for
us
just
to
get
to
100
just
to
break
even
where
we
were,
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
rely
on
upper
levels
of
government
to
help
contribute
with
our
deficit?
So
this
conversation
needs
to
happen.
We
can't
be
going
through
this
every
year
where
we
still
don't
know.
Today.
We're
asked
to
approve
this
budget,
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
have
40
million
dollar
deficit
covered
off
or
not.
L
L
If
you
want
to
have
any
discussion
about
frequency
of
service,
augmenting
frequency,
reliability,
it
does
require
resources,
and
so
I'm,
really
this
year
as
part
of
my
role
in
the
Transit
Commission
looking
at
those
metrics,
and
we
have
to
hold
our
own
staff
accountable,
because
we're
giving
significant
resources
in
this
budget
and
I'm
expecting
to
see
reliability
covered
off
so
reliability.
Mr
Mayor
is
a
main
concern
that
I
still
have
with
this
budget.
The.
B
P
AI
And
I
think
we're
all
acutely
aware
of
the
challenges:
reliability
available,
availability
of
roots.
These
are
things
that
you
know
I'm
battling
in
my
community
as
well,
and
we
know
that
OC
Transpo
is
working
to
address
these
things.
We've
heard
some
encouraging
things
both
today
and
at
Transit
Commission,
but,
given
that
this
is
the
first
budget
for
a
lot
of
counselors
I'd,
like
a
comment,
what
happens
if
the
budget
doesn't
pass?
What
happens
if
a
majority
of
votes
know
what
happens
operationally
and
councilor
kids?
You
mean
specifically
the
transit
portion
of
the.
P
Thank
you
counselor
for
the
question.
What
that
would
mean
is
we
have
no
budget
for
Transit?
The
next
step
in
this
process
is
to
set
the
tax
rates.
Once
we
do
have
a
finalized
budget.
That
report
will
be
coming
to
the
finance
and
Corporate
Services
Committee
in
April.
We
would
be
unable
to
set
tax
rates
for
the
entire
city
and
issue
those
bills.
B
Z
Councilor
de
Bruce
you're
dissenting
as
well.
Yes,
the
motion
from
counselor
King
seconded
by
counselor
troster
on
the
the
route
which
again
I'll,
you
know
I'll
point
out,
I
think
every
every
counselor
has
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
OC
Transpo
about
roots
and
there's
a
review
going
on
no
matter
what,
but
is
the
motion
carried.
Z
R
R
R
AI
Counselor
Devine
no
counselor
DeRose,
no
sir
Brown,
no
counselor
Lowe,
yes,
counselor
Johnson,
no
counselor
de
Rush,
counselor
Bradley;
yes,
Council
troster,
yes,
counselor
leaper,
we
counselor
Kavanaugh;
yes,
counselor,
Menard,
sorry!
Yes,
it
was
the
capital
budget.
I
wanted
to
dissent
on
I.
Think
we've
got
the
rock
concert
Hill!
Yes,.
AI
AI
Hour,
yes,
counselor
Kelly,
yes,
counselor
luloff,
yes,
counselor
King,
no
counselor
Tierney;
yes,
counselor
Curry;
yes,
counselor
Kitts;
yes,
counselor
Carr,
yes,
counselor,
divine,
no
counselor
derus!
Well,
sir
Brown
no
counselor
low;
yes,
counselor,
Johnson,
no
ster,
yes,
counselor
Bradley,
yes,
counselor
troster!
No.
R
Also
Hubley
councilor
Brockington,
yes,
mayor
Sutcliffe,
yes,
18
years,
seven
Nays.
Thank
you.
Okay,
moving
to
item
12,
Transportation
committee
portion
of
the
draft
operating
Capital
budgets
and
we
have
a
few
motions
here,
beginning
with
councilor
Brockington
Council
Brockington.
So
you
actually
have
two
motions.
One
is
on
a
crossing
guard
and
the
other
is.
R
L
L
To
be
completely
transparent
with
my
colleagues,
this
does
not
yet
meet
warrants.
Funding
was
provided
by
the
MTO
a
few
years
ago.
We
allocated
this
was
the
number
one
ask
in
the
community
location
for
a
crossing
guard
and
because
demand
was
so
high
when
that
funding
was
complete.
I
have
supplemented
that
out
of
my
office
budget
due
to
council
resolution
as
much
as
I
like
having
the
crossing
guard
there.
Mr
Mayor
I
would
like
the
city
to
assume
the
cost,
and
that's
why
this
motion
is
being
presented
today
at
Council.
L
So
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
the
crossing
guard
at
the
LA
Perrier
Maryville
Anna
intersection
be
staffed
on
a
permanent
basis.
As
of
March
1st
and
all
costs
associated
with
the
guard,
approximately
thirteen
thousand
per
year
be
assumed
by
the
city
and
paid
for
from
the
automated
speed
enforcement
Revenue
budget
area.
Thank
you
and
do
you
want
me
to
go
right
into
yeah?
You
might
as
well
present
the
other
motion.
Thank
you
mayor.
So
at
Transit
there's
Transportation
committee.
L
At
the
committee
meeting,
there
was
a
commitment
that
staff
would
continue
to
work
with
the
community
and
myself
I
want
to
get
this
in
writing,
because
it's
such
a
volatile
file,
Mr
Mayor,
that
this
is
the
warning
that
that
helps
me.
Work
with
staff
going
forward
so
therefore
be
resolved.
That
staff
continue
engage
with
the
local
community
and
word
counselor
on
the
final
design
process,
specifically
relating
to
the
Walkley.
B
L
L
Are
there
any
locations
that
are
ahead
of
maravel
and
Anna
I
believe
in
terms
of
the
queue
for
for
a
crossing
guard,
yeah
Mr
Mayor
of
the
just
a
bit
of
context?
In
2022,
we
we
received
an
evaluated
51
request
for
different
locations,
10
of
them
actually
meet
warrants
and
and
those
tens
are
being
funded
from
the
2023
budget.
The
remaining
40
or
41
did
not
be
warrants,
therefore,
are
not
being
funded
this
one
when
we
did
the
assessment
rank
35
out
of
the
50s.
L
So
at
this
point,
when
you
take
out
the
tender,
find
that
they're
still
give
or
take
about
25
that
are
ahead
of
this
one
thanks
for
any
information
so
yeah.
This
means
that
I
won't
be
supporting
this
notion,
because
this
means
that
we
will
be
again
giving
giving
a
specific
location,
preferential
treatment
when
there
are
25
other
locations.
That.
B
That
have
and
sorry
that
have
not
met
warrants
and
that
have
you
know
that
probably
have
similar
demands.
I'm
sure
many
of
our
many
of
my
colleagues
around
the
table
have
locations
around
the
city
that
they
would
love
to
see
a
crossing
guard,
and
this
this
goes
for
traffic
management
measures
as
well.
Like
always
stops
traffic
lights,
protect
the
lefts
and
all
this
stuff
and
like
motions
I,
don't
think,
are
the
best
way
to
do
this.
B
C
Counselors
Lowe's
position
and
I
certainly
would
suggest
that
we
need
to
move
in
an
evidence-based
Direction.
But
what
I
hope
that
this
motion
will
open
up
is
a
further
conversation
about
the
investment
in
Road
Safety
that
we
make
for
our
city.
We
we
do
need
evidence,
but
we
need
to
ensure
that
we
have
various
factors
contributing.
B
Prioritize
Road
Safety,
as
a
council,
we
could
we
could
layer
into
this
conversation
and
so
I
I
wanted
to
support
councilor
Brockington
in
his
efforts
to
try
and
bring
visibility
to
this
issue.
I
I
know
that
we
have
several
signalized
intersections
or
signals
that
have
met
warrants
that
we
are
currently
not
funding
around
60
million
dollars.
So
we
have
a
chronic
problem
of
underfunding,
road
safety
here
and
so
warrant
or
no
warrant.
I
think
this.
This
motion
brings
light
to
the
fact
that
there
are
children
involved.
G
B
I
applaud,
counselor,
brockington's
suggestion
to
use
the
revenues
from
the
photo
radar,
and
perhaps
if
revenues
continue
to
be
as
high
as
they
have
been
from
photo
radar.
Maybe
we
can
fund
all
these
locations,
but
I
I
I
can't
support
jumping
the
queue
without
some
information
about
how
many
locations
and
what
those
locations.
AA
Are
that
we're
we're
jumping
ahead
of
so
can
staff
produce
that
and
share
that
with
the
public
and
what
council
Mr
Mayor?
We
can
certainly
share
the
list
with
members
of
council.
We
we
already
share
that
information
individually
with
the
counselors
that
are
affected
whenever
we
do
a
warrant
review
for
a
crossing
under
award,
so
individual
word
counselors
would
be
aware
of
the
ones
that
we've
done
a
review
and
either
they
met
or
have
not
met.
AA
The
the
Lawrence
and
and
I
would
just
like
to
draw
a
bit
of
a
distinction
with
the
controlled
intersection,
the
warrants
where,
yes,
there
is
a
long
list,
that's
not
funded
in
the
case
of
the
crossing
guards.
Once
they
meet
the
warrants,
we
make
every
effort
to
dedicate
the
resources
to
them.
So
this
year,
as
I
mentioned,
there
were
10
that
met
the
list
and
those
are
the
ten
that
you
see
in
a
budget
for
2023..
AA
That's
great
Alan,
but
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
here
is
there,
because
that
process
up
till
now
has
worked
I
think
for
most
counselors,
but
we're
about
to
throw
that
out
the
window.
We're
gonna
now
create
our
own
list
of
who's
going
first,
so
I
think
it's
important
for
residents
to
know
who's
getting
bumped
off
that
priority
list
so
that
we
can
go
to
a
lower
one
My
Hope
here
with
that
list.
Is
that
we'll
find
a
way
to
fund
them
all
yeah
the
as
I
mentioned
Mr
Mayor.
AA
We
can
provide
the
list
a
bit
of
context
on
terms
of
the
warrant,
so
the
warrants
were
actually
approved
by
Council
back
in
2019..
The
counselor
at
the
warrants
are
actually
based
on
the
Ontario
traffic
Council
guides
that
have
been
developed
and
those
guys
were
developed
basically
with
the
input
of
municipalities
across
the
across
the
province
of
which
the
city
of
Ottawa
participated
in
that
in
that
effort.
AA
There
would
be
no
evidence
to
be
able
to
support
why
unwarranted
locations
would
be
permitted
to
move
forward,
and
then
it
opens
up
the
process
to
a
lot
more
subjectivity
in
terms
of
decision
making
and
I
think
most
of
the
public
when
we
explain
that
process
and
how
staff
evaluated
and
that
its
experts
that
do
this
evaluation
for
us
I
know
certainly
with
school
councils
and
that
that
I've
dealt
with
that
we're
looking
for
crossing
guards.
They
all
supported
the
process
and
we're
happy
that
we
had
a
process
in
place.
AA
AA
Are
you
okay
about
that
I'm
going
to
speak
next?
Do
you
have
anything
else
and
I'll
address
your
question
in
one
second?
Well,
okay,
I
may
want
to
speak
after
him,
then,
since
he
can't
answer
the
question
now.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thanks
mayor
I
I
just
have
a
few
questions
for
staff
and
then
I'll
I'll
enter
counselor
hoobly's
question.
AA
Through
motions
of
counsel-
yes,
yes,
and
how
often
does
that
have
during
any
term
of
counsel
rough
number?
It's
it
very
much
varies.
So
we
we've
seen
a
number
of
Staff
sorry.
Counselor
reports
come
to
Transportation
committee
outlining
concerns
within
communities.
Arguments
are
made
and
the
counselor
pitches
to
the
committee
and
if
approved,
comes
to
council
and
Council
has
I
think
in
every
case
approved
that
request
local
request.
We
rely
on
the
local
counselor
to
bring
road
safety
concerns
that
warranted
a
stop
sign
and
we've
approved
them.
D
We're
not
going
to
see
fewer
students
walking
over
time,
we're
going
to
see
more
and
that
puts
more
pressure
on
the
city
to
provide
school
crossing
guards.
Chair
I'm
going
to
withdraw
my
motion
at
this
time
because
the
funding
is
still
there
for
this
guard.
The
funding
still
will
be
coming
out
of
my
office.
I
I,
don't
think
I'm
any
more
special
than
any
other
intersections
that
have
been
assessed.
But
what
I've
tried
to
present
today
is
this
is
a
dangerous
intersection.
D
We
had
a
death
on
the
street
two
blocks
away
just
last
year,
not
of
a
student
but
still
pedestrian
was
killed,
and
this
is
a
dangerous
Street.
This
is
a
dangerous
Street
and
I.
Do
hope
that,
as
the
automated
speed
enforcement
campaign
expands
and
there's
more
revenues
coming
into
the
city,
and
they
must
be
directed
to
Road
Safety
initiatives,
we
have
a
broader
conversation
about
how
to
allocate
These
funds,
so
Mr
Mayor
I'm
going
to
withdraw
this
motion
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
Councilor
Brockington,
could
you
let's
move
to
your
direction,
then,
if
you're
ready
to
provide
the
direction
that
you
have
on
sidewalks.
Thank
you.
Yes,
so
speaking
with
staff
over
the
last
little
while
about
sidewalks
in
general
and
the
need
for
greater
investment,
this
wording
has
been
prepared
and
the
direction
is
the
best
way
to
go.
So.
D
B
P
AA
Okay
and
then
12b
the
remaining
Transportation
committee
draft
operating
budget
is
that
carried
and
12C
the
draft
capital
budget,
as
amended
is
that
carried?
You
said
on
12
C2,
please,
the
sent
also,
okay,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
we
capture
that
who
just
put
up
your
hand
if
you've
dissented
so
Mr
Mayor.
We
have
I,
have
a
dissent
from
counselor,
Johnson,
Kavanaugh,
dudas,
luloff
and
daruss
on
the
transportation
committee,
capital
budget
and
counselor
derosh
on
item
C2,
which
is
the
second
realized
resolution
with
respect
to
the
airport.
Parkway.
AA
Good
on
that
everybody's
vote
has
been
recorded,
yeah,
okay,
sorry,
I
I
could
have
split
those
into
it,
but
I
think
we
captured
everything.
Okay!
Thank
you.
Let's
move
to
item
13
the
environment
and
climate
change
committee,
portion
of
the
2023
draft
operating
and
capital
budgets
and
I
know.
Councilor
Gower
has
declared
an
interest
on.
J
K
K
But
a
is
carried
I
hadn't,
I,
hadn't
yeah,
so
a
is
already
a
is
carried
so
now
we'll
move
to
Item
B
counselor
Brown
is
noted
as
dissent
is,
that
carried
item
C
again
councilor
Brown
has
noted
his
dissent
is
item
C
carried
item.
D
is
the
rate
supported
operating
budget?
Is
that
carriage
item
e
the
rate
supported
capital
budget?
Is
that
carried
okay.
K
Okay
item
14
is
the
finance
and
Corporate
Services
committee
portion
of
the
2023
draft
operating
and
capital
budgets.
Are
there
any
comments
or
questions
on
that
is
that
carriage
okay
item
15?
Is
the
service
review
framework,
as
outlined
in
the
2023
draft
operating
in
capital,
budgets,
report
and
I
know?
Councilor
Menard
has
a
motion
on
that
Council
Menard.
K
B
Whereas
the
city
strives
to
ensure
value
for
money
in
its
Service
delivery
and
operations,
and
whereas
the
service
review
process
needs
to
be
established
and
whereas
the
intent
of
the
service
review
program
is
to
verify
value
for
money
and
look
at
Service
delivery
without
a
bias
to
shifting
from
in-house
provision
to
external
delivery.
And
whereas
the
governance
report
references,
greater
transparency.
Z
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
following
amendments
be
made
to
document
3
of
the
2023
draft
operating
and
capital
budgets,
report
policy,
statements
and
principles
of
service
review
framework
principles.
Four,
the
overall
goal
of
the
review
program
is
to
ensure
the
delivery
of
high
quality
services
to
Residents,
while
ensuring
value
for
money,
not
service
level
cuts.
Z
Six
Environmental,
Quality
and
or
Public
Safety
will
not
be
compromised.
When
considering
the
service
delivery
model,
human
resource
policy,
city
employees
will
be
treated
fairly
and
the
applicable
Collective
Agreement
terms
and
conditions
will
be
respected
in
any
review
and
or
changes
to
Service
delivery
options.
One
in
the
instance
of
managed
competition,
including
in-house
bids
and
contact
tracks
with
private
sector
agents,
said
contracts.
Z
Should
not
be
a
barrier
to
becoming
competitive
or
to
providing
quality
services,
be
it
further
resolve
that
the
following
amendments
be
made
to
document
4
service
review
framework
step
one
opportunity
identification,
the
following
criteria:
cost
to
maintain
long-term
long-term
viability,
ability
to
achieve
economies
of
scope
and
scale
across
and
within
delivered
services
and
long-term
potential
for
savings
step.
Two
Service
delivery,
option,
analysis
and
high
level
design.
Z
The
paragraph
one
revised
to
read
the
service
delivery
option
for
consideration
include,
but
are
not
limited
to
internal,
as
is
internal
re-engineering,
managed
competition,
including
in-house
bids,
slash
contracts
and
internalizing
third-party
Service
delivery.
Contracting
out
p3s
paragraph
two
revised
to
read.
Public
consultation
will
be
undertaking
where
the
findings
of
the
analysis
indicate
either
an
adjustment
to
existing
service
levels
or
change
in
delivery
model
should
be
recommended
for
Council
consideration.
Z
The
findings
in
this
analysis,
along
with
the
next
steps
and
public
consultation
input,
will
be
brought
forward
to
the
appropriate
signing
committee
for
consideration
where
warranted
step.
Three.
The
change
here
is
including
the
including
in-house
bids
contracts
internalizing
third-party
Service
delivery
and
step
four
implementation
and
validation.
Paragraph
one
revised
to
read
the
stage
involves:
implementing,
managing
and
monitoring
the
new
or
restructured
service
provider
to
ensure
Improvement
targets
and
benefits
are
achieved.
That's
a
lot
of
words
there,
but
I
bet.
The
basic
fundamental
point
of
why
we
were
looking
at
this
is
to
I
guess
reflect.
Z
I
think
my
colleagues
have
seen
representatives
of
over
11
000
city
employees
recently
sent
a
letter
to
members
of
council
on
Monday
expressing
the
concerns
about
the
proposed
framework.
I
share
in
those
concerns.
I
think
that's
why
mayor
we've
we've
worked
to
and
councilor
Devine.
Thank
you
for
seconding
this
to
consult
with
your
office
and
see
them
addressed
through
this
through
this
motion.
So
I
think
this
better
reflects
the
language
I.
You
know
I'm
bringing
it
forward
to
clarify
the
evaluations
as
well
as
make
sure
public
consultation
is
included.
We
didn't.
Z
We
didn't
have
that
in
the
first
instance,
public
consultations
embedded
in
these
documents
now
which
which
we'll
need
to
do
and
I,
think
you
know
I-
do
want
to
make
it
clear
as
well
I'm
going
to
support
this
amendment
and
I'll
support
the
the
over
overall
review.
I
I
do
want
to
make
it
clear,
just
personally
I,
not
afraid
to
admit
I,
believe
in
in
public
service.
I
think
that
our
services
are
best
delivered
public
in-house
by
public
sector
employees
and
I.
Z
I
think
the
empirical
record
is
is
clear
on
this
and
that
we've
seen
reports
that
have
come
out
of
late
that
have
challenged
the
city's
Reliance
on
that
on
that
model,
and
so
you
know
mayor
I
think
this
is
a
reasonable
motion
that
brings
us
together
to
get
to
what
we've
said
we
want
this
to
be,
which
is
not
about
service
level
Cuts,
but
high
quality
services
and
value
for
money,
so
appreciate
your
support
and
and
staff
support
on
this
and
counselor
Devine.
For
second
thanks.
Z
Thank
you,
counselor
Menard,
councilor,
Curry
I,
just
my
general
comment
on
this
is
a
working
group
can
actually
recommend
whatever
it
wants.
It
will
be
up
to
committees
and
the
community
to
decide
what
they
want
to
do
with
it.
You
know
so
I
just
don't
want
people
to
falsely
believe
that
if
there's
a
great
recommendation
that
would
save
the
city
millions
of
dollars
that
the
working
group
would
say,
oh,
but
this
motion
says
that
we
couldn't
bring
It
Forward
I
mean
what.
D
Possible
review
done
we're
going
line
by
line
programs
and
services,
all
of
them
liaising
with
the
auditor
general,
so
I
guess
I
would
just
want
to
make
sure
people
are
not
believing
that
this
motion
would
stop
us
from
looking
at
anything
and
bringing
it
forward
for
people
to
consider.
The
working
group
has
no
power
or
authority.
D
It
just
is
a
working
group
doing
work
and
an
idea
can
come
forward
just
as
any
day
of
the
week
in
an
idea
can
come
forward
and
if
all
of
city,
council
or
committee
says
oh
well,
we
don't
like
that
or
it
doesn't
work
with
what
we're
we're
already
trying
to
do.
Then
that's
that's
fair,
but
when
a
working
group
is
doing,
work,
I
think
it
it's
going
to
do
work
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
leave
any
stone
unturned.
D
AM
AM
AM
Obviously,
at
any
given
time
as
an
individual,
counselor
or
three
counselors
can
sit
down
and
come
up
with
ideas
about
how
they
think
the
city
should
deliver
Services
going
forward
and
bring
those
to
committee
or
Council
and
there's
no
way
for
them
to
be
restricted
from
proposing
emotion
on
something
by
some
other
motion
that
prevents
that
from
happening
right.
So
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
think.
That's
I
think
this
is
more
a
reflection
of
the
principles
behind
the
service
review.
D
But
it
doesn't
limit
the
the
working
group,
nor
does
it
limit
any
counselor
or
group
of
counselors
from
bringing
forward
ideas
going
forward
of
any
nature,
which
would
then
be
at
the
discretion
of
counsel
and
I.
Think
it's
important
to
reiterate.
The
working
group
does
not
have
the
power
to
make
changes
to
city
services
or
the
city
budget.
Any
any
proposals
the
working
group
produces
would
have
to
come
before
full
Council
in
the
end
as.
P
So,
thank
you
to
that
councilor
Curry,
counselor,
low
thanks
mayor
I,
just
want
to
seek
some
clarification
from
the
Mover
in
the
first
operative
Clause
underneath
a
human
resource
policy.
The
first
point
in
the
instances
of
managed
competition
et
cetera
Etc.
Maybe
it
was
my
6
30
a.m.
Brain
not
reading
it
very
well.
But
do
you
mind
breaking
that
apart
a
little
for
me
and
telling
me
what
that
means.
AM
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor.
This
was
just
to
clarify
that
there
is
a
broader
section
of
a
potential
value
for
money,
quality
of
services
that
could
have
been
included
here,
including
in-house
bids,
and
it
wasn't
just
a
Contracting
out
sort
of
P3
approach
that
there
is
a
lot
that
we
can
look
at
in
terms
of
internalizing
city
services
that
may
have
been
contracted
out
previously,
which
I
know
we've
done
in
the
past.
Z
Should
be
looking
at
overall,
so
this
also,
my
my
assumption
then
would
be.
My
interpretation
I
should
say
would
be
correct
that
if
we
end
up
finding
a
contract
that
should
not
block
us
from
providing
our
own
services,
I
think
I
think
that
the
main
goal
here
is
that
Collective
Agreements
are
going
to
be
respected
right
and,
as
we
have
Collective
agreements
that
that's
we're
going
to
respect
those
agreements
and
their
their
service
level
changes.
B
L
L
We
need
to
know
that
the
services
and
programs
that
we
are
offering
and
delivering
to
the
people
of
the
city
are
are
being
done
at
Best
Value,
but
in
doing
so
we
do
need
to
broaden
our
thinking
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
looking
at
the
best
delivery
model
for
each
program,
whether
it's
fully
fully
public,
fully
private
or
something
in
between
and
with
that.
That
has
a
goal
with
getting
the
best
result
of
this
framework.
B
E
Of
this
process
as
possible,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
counselor
Devine.
Any
other
comments
on
that
is
motion
carried
okay
and
is
the
is
item
15.
The
service
review
framework,
as
amended.
Is
that
carried
okay?
So
we're
moving
now
to
part
three,
which
is
the
delegation
of
authority,
and
there
are
a
couple
emotions
here,
beginning
with
a
motion
from
counselor
Johnson,
councilor
Johnson.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
so
I
think
I
will
jump
to
the
therefore
be
it
resolves.
This
is
the
emotion
that
is
requesting
staff
to
explore
the
feasibility
of
multi-year
budgeting
and
performance
measures
in
time
for
our
2024
budget
process.
The
actual
implementation
of
that
multi-year
budgeting
and
performance
measures
would
still
be
coming
back
to
council,
but
this
is
a
motion
to
stop
to
explore
it.
B
It
further
resolved
that
the
Chief
Financial
Officer
report
to
Council
on
these
assessments
at
such
a
date
that
would
enable
the
implementation
of
a
multi-year
budget
or
multi-year
forecast,
as
well
as
including
Council
strategic
priorities,
an
Associated
performance
measures
into
the
2024
budget
should
Council
determine
to
proceed
with
them.
So
I'd
like
to
first
thank
the
mayor
and
his
staff
for
helping
to
draft
this
motion.
B
So,
as
the
motion
mentions,
several
other
Canadian
cities
have
applied
multi-year
budgeting
with
great
success,
most
notably
Vancouver
here
in
Ontario,
it
is
London
and
although
you
know,
cities
certainly
have
a
lot
of
variability
in
size
and
scope
and
responsibility
and
priority
it
is.
It
is
my
opinion
that
if
we
were
to
consider
adopting
multi-year
budgeting,
we
might
be
able
to
tell
a
different
story.
H
Of
how
we've
been
driving
towards
particular
goals
year
over
year-
and
we
might
have
a
clearer
understanding
around
this
Council
table,
what
the
trade-offs
might
be,
because
we'll
have
already
established
those
those
priorities
as
part
of
our
term
of
council
priorities.
So
this
motion
is
just
to
explore
it.
It
would
it
I
mean
undoubtedly,
it
does
change
the
way
way
that
we
do
work
it
it.
It
implies
a
different
way
of
doing
work
for
our
staff,
but
it
would
also
imply
a
different
way
of
doing
work.
B
For
us,
as
counselors
and
and
certainly
with
the
mayor,
we
would
have
to
work
together
to
determine
strategic
priorities
that
now
are
strategic
objectives.
We
are
trying
to
drive
somewhere
and
the
multi-year
budgeting
will
underpin
those
priorities
year
over
year,
but
I
believe
you
know,
given
my
experience.
Certainly
brief,
as
it
is
over
the
last
three
months,
our
ability
to
come
together
already
across
political
differences
or
differences
of
opinion.
I
think
that
we
could
really
engage
in
this
strategic.
AC
Planning
process
in
a
in
a
different
way,
it
would
require
25
people
coming
together
and
and
doing
harder
work
up
front,
but
I
think.
If
we
were
to
move
into
this
multi-year
framework,
we
might
be
able
to
move
more
nimbly
later.
There
is
an
expression
that
sometimes
to
move
fast,
you
need
to
move
slow,
so
this
kind
of
process
introduces
that
idea.
AC
I'm
also
really
attracted
to
the
idea
of
just
providing
residents
with
more
certainty
and
making
more
strategic
use
of
this
governing
body's
time
in
reviewing
the
budgets,
while
the
administration's
time
is
to
prepare
the
budgets
so
again,
I.
This
motion
does
not
Implement
any
changes,
but
it
begs
for
some
curiosity
about
the
tools
and
processes
that
are
already
at
our
disposal
to
create
a
policy
Innovation
that
would
I
think
work
serve
well
to
restore
trust
with
the
people
of
Ottawa
and
create
the
vision
that
we
all
espouse.
Thank
you.
AC
Thank
you.
Councilor
Johnson,
councilor
Curry.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
in
principle,
I
support
this
motion.
Most
sports
I
sit
on
do
multi-year
budgeting
and
do
rolling
plans,
but
you
know
I
I
do
want
to
ask
staff
about
how
difficult
it
would
be
to
do
this,
because
this
is
what
I
understand
every
time
I've
asked
any
staff
member
here
about
something
some
project.
They
talk
to
me
in
terms
of
this
year
and
next
year
or
the
next
year.
It
it
to
me
I've
always
felt
that
staff
are
multi-year.
N
N
If
you
look
at
our
budget
book,
1200
plus
plages
is
probably
one
of
the
most
detailed
budgets
that
I've
seen.
So
if
you
expect
to
see
that
with
a
four-year
View,
I
I
can't
deliver
on
that,
but
what
I
can
deliver
on
is
exploring
this
option
because
we
do
do
four-year
planning.
We
do
10-year
planning.
In
some
cases
we
do
30-year
planning.
N
So
that
kind
of
addressed
your
question
a
little
bit
Yeah,
it
absolutely
does
I
just
I.
Don't
want
anybody
leaving
here
thinking
that
all
of
a
sudden
we've
come
up
with
this
new
bright
idea
that
you've
never
thought
of
before
and
I.
Just
don't
think.
That's
fair!
So,
but
I
I
agree
that
we
as
a
council
can
start
looking
at
things
differently
and
I.
Think
our
strategic
planning
process,
that's
about
to
start,
will
really
feed
into
this
anyway.
I'll
be
supporting
this,
of
course,
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
staff
had
that
opportunity.
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilor
Curry
counselor
low,
thank
you
mayor
and
I
I'm,
generally
generally,
supportive
of
this
as
well,
just
because
it
does
give
us
a
better
view
down
the
road
of
what
we're
doing
but
to
build
on
councilor
Curry's
comments
about
this
is
something
that
staff
already
do.
This
is
something
that
we
don't
do
just
yet
if
we
were
to
adopt
this
approach.
AL
It
would
bind
us
to
something
and
we'd
have
to
like
reconsider
certain
items
or
anything
Mr
Mayor
no
I
mean
that's
part
of
Municipal
act.
We're
still
required
to
come
back
and
adopt
the
annual
budget,
so
it
will
be
I'll
call
it
a
forecast
versus
a
multi-year
budget
for
technicality
in
terms
of
terminology,
but
we
will
still
come
back
and
refresh
that
budget.
You
just
need
to
be
open
for
some
variances
if
I
were
to
provide
you
with
2024
forecast
today,
and
we
fast
forward
to
November
there's
going
to
be
changes
inevitably
right.
AL
So
you
know
we
need
to
temper
the
ins
and
outs
and
the
questions
in
terms
of
what
changed
at
that
level.
Just
kind
of
the
forecast
is
a
forecast.
The
annual
budget
will
be
more
concrete
each
year
that
we
come
forward
great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilor
low,
counselor,
Johnson
I
just
wanted
to
wrap
up
I
guess
so.
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
thank
councilor
Curry
for
that
clarification.
AL
I
I'm
I'm
grateful
for
the
support
around
the
table.
I
I
certainly
don't
suggest
that
this
presumes
that
we
don't
have
any
other
emergencies,
although
God
willing,
let's
hope
we
don't
have
anything
too
significant,
but
I
I
do
appreciate
the
the
energy
around
the
table
to
to
work
collaboratively
and
I.
Think
that
by
creating
this
type
of
forecast,
we
will
be
able
to
tell
a
story
about
where
we
go
and
measure
how
we
get
there
and
I
think
that's
a
very
powerful
opportunity.
Thank
you.
AL
Thank
you.
Counselor
Johnson.
Any
other
comments
is
the
motion
carried
next.
We
have
a
motion
counselor
Brockington,
on
that,
every
on
on
basically
reviewing
the
budget
process.
Councilor
Brockington.
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
for
your
support
on
this
motion
as
well.
Although
it
is
recognized
that
the
city's
budget
process
has.
N
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
staff
be
directed
to
conduct
a
budget
survey
for
all
members
of
council
about
the
2023
budget
process
and
report
back
to
Council
on
the
results
of
as
part
of
the
2024
budget
directions
report
or
earlier,
if
possible.
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you.
Councilor
Brockington
is
the
motion
carried.
N
Thank
you,
a
motion
from
counselor
King
on
a
municipal
price
index,
councilor
King.
Thank
you.
Your
worship
for
municipalities,
and
especially
the
city
of
Ottawa,
knowing
how
inflation
is
impacting
Municipal
expenditures
is
very
important,
especially
in
today's
challenging
economic
environment.
A
municipal
price
index
would
paint
a
comprehensive
picture
of
price
changes
that
impact
a
range
of
City
spending.
N
It
is
an
objective
measure
of
Municipal
inflationary
Trends,
as
it
relies
mainly
on
price
movements
measured
in
the
marketplace
for
goods
and
services
bought
by
the
city
of
Ottawa.
This
differs
from
the
Consumer
Price
Index,
which
measures
the
prices
that
eight
consumer
faces
when
buying
a
basket
of
goods
for
a
household.
A
tool
such
as
the
municipal
price
index
would
help
the
city
monitor,
weather
increases
and
expenditures
are
rising
at
the
same
rate
as
increases
in
the
prices
for
goods
and
services
it
purchases.
N
The
motion
before
you
asked
City
staff
to
Simply,
determine
the
feasibility
of
developing
and
applying
this
tool
to
Future
budgets.
It
is
an
important
tool
since
it
would
complement
any
proposed
multi-year
budget
framework,
so
the
resolution
is
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
Council
direct
the
city
treasurer
to
prepare
a
report
to
determine
the
feasibility
of
developing
a
municipal
price
index
for
the
city
of
Ottawa
I'd
like
to
thank
councilor
Johnson
for
seconding
this
motion
and
would
like
to
ask
for
colleague
support.
Thank
you
mayor.
N
Thank
you.
Everyone
all
right.
Let's
move
on
to
item
16,
which
is
the
council,
approved
the
that
the
Chief
Financial
Officer,
be
delegated
the
authority
to
adjust
the
accrual
budget
to
include
any
budget
changes
approved
by
Council
as
part
of
the
final
adopted
budget
and
to
include
the
accrual
budget
presentation
within
the
city
of
ottawa's
final
adopted
2023
budget
book
for
information
purposes,
as
described
in
the
report
entitled
report
on
2023
budget
expenses
pursuant
to
Ontario
regulation.
AB
Motion
carried
I'm
17
approved
that
the
Chief
Financial
Officer
be
delegated
the
authority
to
make
the
necessary
adjustments
to
the
2023
draft
operating
budget
and
to
make
any
necessary
Authority
and
debt
financing.
Adjustments
to
the
2023
draft
capital
budget
to
reflect
the
adopted
budget
and
any
approved
amendments
is
that
carried
item.
18
approved
that
the
interim
city
manager
or
her
delegate
be
authorized
to
make
applications
for
any
subsidies.
B
B
Resolve
that
their
recommendations
set
out
in
the
20
23
draft
operating
and
capital
budget
reports
outlined
below,
including
all
amendments
and
resolutions
approved
by
Council
and
Committee
of
the
whole,
be
received
and
adopted
as
amended
I'm
known,
and
it's
all
on
the
screen,
I'm
happy
to
read
it
at
length
if
you
wish,
but
I
can
skip
down
to
the
further
be
resolve.
Please
do
awesome,
be
it
further
resolve
that
any
descents
and
Declarations
of
Interest
recorded
during
the
committee
of
whole
session
be
deemed
to
be
recorded
in
the
council
session.
B
B
Whereas
completing
unnecessary
or
cumbersome
work-related
medical
notes
and
forms
has
been
identified
as
an
area
of
inefficiency
for
private
Primary.
Care
Professionals,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
staff
in
all
departments
be
directed
to
review
processes
that
require
medical
note
or
form
and
identify
where
requirements
for
medical
notes
or
forms
can
be
eliminated
or
simplified
and
report
back
to
council
as
soon
as
possible.
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor.
B
And
I
want
to
thank
the
second
year
counselor
Kitts,
who
is
the
chair
of
Ottawa
Public
Health,
whereas
March
11
2020,
the
World
Health
Organization
declared
the
covid-19
viral
infection
as
a
pandemic
and
whereas
covid-19
pandemic
has
been
unprecedented
in
his
far-reaching
impacts,
including
Collective
trauma
on
individuals,
families,
children
and
vulnerable
communities.
Whereas
the
impacts
of
covid-19
continue
to
be
felt
in
an
over
tax
and
under-resourced,
Health
Care
system
and
a
range
of
other
public
services
that
have
still
not
fully
recovered
from
the
pandemic.
B
And
whereas
the
leadership
and
Frontline
workers
at
Ottawa,
Public
Health,
as
well
as
as
health
and
social
service
agencies
across
the
city
of
Ottawa,
have
worked
tirelessly
and
effectively
to
guide
the
city
of
Ottawa
through
the
covid-19
pandemic
and
continue
to
Monitor
and
respond
to
a
vast
range
of
pandemic
related
impacts.
Whereas
in
March
2021
government
of
Canada
has
designated
March
11
2021
as
a
national
day
of
observance
to
commemorate
the
people
who
have
lost
their
their
lives
and
the
significant
impact
we
have
all
felt
because
of
covid-19.
And
whereas
of
February
27
2023.
B
Over
51
000
Canadian
families
have
lost
a
loved
one
and
whereas
on
February
27
2023
1019
Ottawa
residents
have
died
as
a
result
of
covet
19..
This
does
not
take
into
account
the
number
or
impacted
where
families
where
family
died
elsewhere,
nationally
or
internationally,
whereas
every
death
from
covid-19
will
leave
several
individuals
and
families
bereaved.
B
I'm
sure,
as
enticing
for
a
long
meeting,
so
whereas
wineries
in
Ontario
that
are
not
part
of
the
vqa
and
sell
100
Ontario
Wine
directly
to
a
licensee,
such
as
restaurants,
are
subject
to
a
markup
and
wine
Levy
imposed
by
the
LCBO,
which
is
not
applied
to
sales
of
vqa
wineries
to
licensees.
And
whereas
the
Direct
Delivery
of
100
Ontario,
non-vqa
Wine
to
a
licensee
is
an
important
part
of
the
local
agri-tourism
wine
industry.
B
Therefore,
be
it
resolve
that
the
mayor
on
behalf
of
council,
right
to
Ontario's,
Minister
of
Finance,
Minister
of
red
tape,
reduction,
minister
of
Agriculture
food
and
Rural
Affairs
and
minister
of
Tourism,
job
creation
and
trade,
supporting
the
elimination
of
the
LCBO
markup
and
wine
levy
on
Direct
Delivery
of
100
Ontario,
non-vqa
Wine
to
a
licensed
C
and
be
it
further
resolve
that
the
mayor
provide
any
updates
to
City
Council
on
any
progress
or
responses
received.
Regarding
this
matter.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Counselor
kids,
counselor
Kavanaugh.
B
Thank
you.
Mr
bear
and
thank
you
to
councilor
Johnson
for
seconding
this
motion.
Whereas
Ottawa
has
a
significant
and
growing
older
adult
population
who
are
living
with
a
range
of
Social
and
Health
needs,
and
whereas
women
are
disproportionately
represented
among
older
adults
living
in
the
community
and
needing
Support
Services
to
maintain
their
health
quality
of
life
and
Independence.
B
B
And
whereas
Ottawa
is
currently
hosting
a
two-year
Oasis
pilot
project
to
demonstrate
the
efficacy
and
cost
effectiveness
of
the
Oasis
model
in
partnership
with
Queen's
University,
the
Old
Forge,
the
Council
on
Aging
and
the
residents
in
three
Ambleside
condos
in
bayward.
Whereas
Oasis
pilot
project
are
also
operating
in
Belleville
Hamilton
London
and
are
in
the
process
of
being
launched
by
Community
groups
in
a
host
of
other
Ontario
cities.
And
whereas
several
Community
groups
and
organization
in
Ottawa
are
seeking.
Funding
to
initiate
Oasis
type
programs
in
their
communities
therefore
be
resolved.
B
That
the
mayor
right
to
the
premier
of
Ontario
and
the
minister
of
health
and
long-term
care
to
request
a
significant
allocation
of
sustained
funding
for
community-based
aging
and
police
supports.
Like
the
North
Oasis
model,
which
are
proven
to
increase
quality
of
life,
life
and
self-determination
prevent
unnecessary
use
of
Emergency
Services
delay
the
need
for
admission
to
long-term
care
and
save
significant
tax
dollars.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you.
Councilor
Kavanaugh
final
notice
of
motion
is
from
counselor
truster
hi.
This
is
to
close
the
road
for
the
Fire
and
Ice
Festival
on
Bay
Street,
so
I'm
just
going
to
read
the
be
it
results,
therefore
be
a
resolve.
The
council
approved
the
road
closure
for
Bank
Street
from
Slater
to
Somerset
West.
The
road
closure
will
begin
at
1
pm
on
Friday
March,
17
2023
and
end
at
5
a.m.
On
Monday
March,
20th
2023
for
the
Fire
and
Ice
winter
festival,
providing
it
meets
the
requirements,
conditions
and
approval
of
special
events,
advisory
team.