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Planning and Housing Commitee — 2023/09/06
Date: Wednesday, September 6, 2023
Location: Champlain Room, 110 Laurier Avenue West, and by electronic participation
B
So
we
got
a
bit
of
a
fiddly
meeting
today.
There's
lots
of
delegations,
some
procedural
stuff
and
speakers
to
I
think
most
of
the
items,
but
let's
see
what
we
can
clear
off.
The
top
I
will
first
acknowledge
that
Ottawa
is
located
on
the
unseated
territory
of
the
Algonquin
anishinaabe
nation,
whose
culture
and
presence
have
nurtured
and
continue
to
nurture.
This.
E
B
You
very
much
this
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
in
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
5.1
to
5.4
on
today's
for
the
items
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted,
May
appeal,
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
land
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
May
appeal
the
matter
to
the
Ontario
land
tribunal.
B
If
Council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
a
zoning,
bylaw,
Amendment
and
120
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments
prior
to
their
consideration
by
City
Council
on
September,
the
13th
2023,
please
email
or
call
the
committee
coordinator.
Are
there
any
Declarations
of
Interest?
B
None
confirmation
minutes
are
the
minutes
of
meeting
13
Wednesday
August
16
2023
confirmed
burned
item
okay,
so
going
through
the
substantive
agenda,
the
item
four
one:
the
Omnibus
official
plan
Amendment.
We
do
have
delegations
to
speak
to
that,
so
we
will
hold
it.
The
item
on
3430,
Carlene
Avenue.
We
have
a
presentation.
We
have
delegations
to
speak
to
that
so
we'll
hold
it.
B
The
zoning
bylaw
Amendment
for
314
Bell
Street
South,
we
don't
have
any
public
members
registered
to
speak
to
it.
I
know
there
is
a
technical
motion
that
is
going
to
be
moved
by
chair
Gower,
Lucas
tardioli
is
with
the
applicant
Lucas
if
you're
here
or
online.
If
committee
is
prepared
to
carry
this
item,
did
you
still
need
to
speak.
B
E
B
B
B
B
We
also
have
the
emotion
from
counselor
Hill
later
in
the
agenda,
just
because
I
know
there
are
a
couple
of
people
who
suggested
they
would
like
to
speak.
If
it's
going
to
be
held,
there
is
an
ipd
on
the
use
of
section
37
funds
to
fund
an
acquisition
by
the
Ottawa
Community
Land
Trust
in
beautiful
River
Ward,
with
the
funds
coming
from
kitchissippi
Ward
I
hadn't,
intended
to
hold
or
lift
that
item.
Did
anyone
want
that
lifted,
and
so
is
that
received?
B
The
first
item
is
the
Omnibus
official
plan
Amendment
that's
sort
of
a
routine
item
in
which
there's
a
lot
of
different
amendments
done
to
the
zoning
bylaw
to
ensure
that
it
matches
the
intent
of
the
official
plan.
We
don't
have
a
presentation
on
that,
but
I
know
staff
are
prepared
to
answer
questions
if
members
have
any,
but
we
also
have
delegations
on
that
today,
and
first
up
is
Jason
brograph
with
the
greater
Ottawa
Home
Builders
Association.
B
B
G
Oh
thanks
very
much
I
would
be
very
short
and
sweet
just
first
and
foremost,
thanks
very
much
for
delaying
this
from
the
previous
session
to
give
goba
and
City
staff
time
to
review
80
80
plus
changes.
Overall,
we
did
a
lot
of
good
work
with
staff
very
happy,
thanks
very
much
to
Robin
and
Ben
for
doing
that.
G
We
had
a
very
few
little
items
that
were
still
of
concern
left.
That
was
part
of
our
written
submission.
One
of
those
has
been
addressed
in
the
technical
Amendment
you
see
before
you.
Others
are
smaller
issues
and
one
was
an
issue,
a
misunderstanding
on
our
part.
So
Clarity
has
been
set
there.
So
we're
good
to
go
thanks
very
much.
B
B
H
Yeah,
thank
you.
Maybe
I
should
have
asked
this
to
go,
but
but
I
just
want
to
know
about
the
their
concern
about
the
wording
for
to
clarify
cycling
facilities,
including
the
shared
lanes,
and
if
that
can
be,
maybe
they
can
give
some
information
on
that
about
bike,
lane
cycle
tracks
and
multi-use
pathways.
I
B
I
I
When
we
really
should
have
mentioned
the
Wellington
West
plan,
it
was
in
the
rationale,
so
it
doesn't
change
the
outcome
of
what
we're
hoping
to
do
and
the
outcome's
still
correct,
but
our
rationale
was
incorrect
in
the
sense
that
we
should
have
said
that
we
wanted
to
move
the
properties
on
Armstrong
the
three
properties
in
Armstrong
into
the
Wellington
West
plan,
thanks
from
the
Wellington
West,
no
from
the
Scott
Street
plan
to
the
Wellington
bus
plan.
Sorry
thank.
B
B
J
All
right,
thank
you.
Mr
chair,
I'm,
Lisa,
Stern
I
was
the
planning
lead
on
this
application.
So
this
is
an
application
for
rezoning
at
3430,
Carling
Avenue
in
Bay
Ward
next
slide.
Please,
the
site
is
located
at
3430,
Carling
Avenue
on
the
south
side
of
Carling,
between
ellswatter
and
Crystal
Beach
drives.
J
J
J
The
proposed
development
includes
two
six-story
apartment
buildings,
with
a
combined
unit
count
of
186
units.
The
sites
is
proposed
to
be
accessed
from
Carling
Avenue
by
a
drive
aisle
between
the
two
buildings.
The
driveway
leads
to
visitor
parking
at
the
rear
and
Resident
parking
is
in
the
underground
parking
garage.
J
Next
slide,
please,
as
a
result
of
public
consultation
building,
heights
were
reduced
from
nine
stories
to
six
stories.
Next
stories
next
slide,
please,
it
is
recommended
that
planning
and
housing
committee
approved
the
zoning
by
bylaw
amendment
to
permit
two
six-story
buildings
on
the
site.
Next
slide:
please,
the
relief
sought
is
to
increase
the
height
at
the
front
of
the
property,
from
18.5
meters
to
20.5
meters
and
to
maintain
a
six-story
building.
J
Height
increase
FSI
from
2
to
2.1,
reduce
the
required
setback
along
Carling
Avenue
from
3
meters
to
1.5
meters,
reduce
the
required
landscape
buffer
along
Carling
from
3
meters
to
1.5
meters
and
reduce
this
the
minimum
separation
distance
between
a
building
and
a
private
way
from
1.8
meters
to
1.5
meters.
Next
slide,
please
book.
J
Neighborhoods
located
in
the
outer
urban
area
shall
accommodate
residential
growth
and
Implement
development
standards.
That
transition
away
from
a
Suburban
model
and
move
towards
Urban
built
forms
neighborhoods
shall
be
predominantly
wrote
low
rise.
However,
higher
Heights
are
permitted
in
areas
characterized
by
taller
buildings.
The
proposal
conforms
to
the
official
plan
by
providing
a
mid-rise
built
form
in
an
area
characterized
and
on
a
site
characterized
with
permissions
for
Mid
and
high-rise
buildings.
J
The
proposal
conforms
to
the
transition
policies
of
the
official
plan.
The
proposed
two
meter,
increased
in
height,
is
located
away
from
the
homes
on
Ultra
Water
Avenue
to
ensure
that
an
appropriate
transition
to
low-rise
developments
is
provided
and
a
right-of-way
protection
of
37.5
meters
for
Carling
Avenue
is
provided
and
is
adequate
to
achieve
the
city's
Transportation
goals,
including
the
provision
of
vehicle,
bicycle
and
pedestrian
infrastructure
to
current
standards.
B
B
K
K
K
A
conveyance
of
the
properties
Frontage
along
Carling
of
up
to
nearly
four
meters
in
depth,
is
being
provided
to
the
city
to
account
for
a
required
right-of-way
protection.
So
you
see
Carling
Avenue,
the
the
existing
roadway
and
then
a
fair
amount
of
blank
space
just
to
the
south
of
that.
That
is
as
a
result
of
the
required
right-of-way
conveyance
again,
despite
that
we're
doing
our
best
to
orient
the
buildings
toward
the
front
in
order
to
provide
generous
rear
yard
setbacks.
D
K
Committee
regarding
the
runaway
width
and
the
requested
front
yard
setback
reductions,
so
I
just
want
to
be
very
clear.
This
project
will
not
reduce
the
existing
right
away
with
long
curling,
as
previously
mentioned
roughly
3.4
to
3.9
meters.
Long
Carling
will
be
conveyed
to
the
city
for
a
widening
of
the
right-of-way.
K
What
we
did
request
was
a
reduction
in
the
widening
itself.
Now
Carling
Avenue
is
identified
as
requiring
a
protection
of
44
and
a
half
meters
at
this
height,
but
through
further
discussion
with
the
city,
we
determined
that
a
37.5
meter,
right-of-way
protection
at
this
height
is
an
appropriate
width.
K
Several
City
approved
cross-sections
for
our
trailer
roads
through
the
building
better
and
smarter
suburbs
initiative
show
the
active,
Transportation
lanes
and
Landscape
boulevards
can
be
comfortably
accommodated
in
right
away
of
less
than
37.5
meters.
I
do
have
some
slides
at
the
end
that
if
we
have
time
I'd
be
happy
to
to
illustrate
those
right
away
cross
sections.
K
B
H
H
H
But
while
I
have
you
one
of
the
things
that
stands
out
to
me
is
the
lack
of
bike
parking,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
that
can
be
increased
because
I
know
that's
not
for
the
zoning.
But
I
think
that
that
should
be
looked
at
so
that
we
can
show
that
the
concern
and
the
interests
that
you
have
in
for
your
future
residence
on
cycling,
infrastructure.
K
If
I'm
a
chair,
I'm
assuming
that
was,
was
that
a
question
to
be
answered,
please
go
ahead.
Yeah!
Okay,
thank
you
through
you,
chair,
I
I
would
like
to
note
that
the
proposed
development
is
providing
a
one-to-one
bike.
Parking
ratio,
as
I
recall,
well,
we'll
certainly
make
sure
that
that's
the
the
case
or
that
we
are
providing
a
comfortable
amount
of
bike
parking
through
the
site
plan
Control
process.
It's
perhaps
not
shown
on
the
site
plan,
since
the
majority
of
it
is
located
indoors.
K
B
L
B
M
My
basic
position
is
that
the
existing
zoning
already
allows
for
significant
intensification
needed
for
additional
housing,
and
what
one
does
not
want
is
something
that
is
a
result
of
zoning
exemptions
will
be
an
eyesore
and
an
unneeded
precedent
in
terms
of
setback
and
height,
in
that
this
part
of
the
city,
so
I'm
going
to
concentrate
my
remarks
on
the
setback
issue.
A
bit
of
my
background.
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
on
the
north
side
of
Carling
and
I'm
on
the
executive
of
the
Rocky
Point
homeowners
association.
M
Our
organization
supports
the
intervention
of
the
Crystal
Beach
Association
I've,
chaired
a
couple
of
affordable
and
supported
supportive
living
organizations
to
Mere
and
options
by
town
in
the
past.
So
I
wish
I.
Guess
it's
not
going
to
happen.
This
committee
would
require
and
support
projects
like
this
to
include
affordable
housing,
professionally
I'm,
now
retired
I
worked
for
several
Federal
organizations,
including
being
a
producer
of
ideas
at
CBC
and
a
director
of
various
audit
reports
for
the
auditor
general
of
Canada
and
in
those
roles.
M
So
I'd
like
to
express
my
appreciation
to
Lisa
Stern,
who
was
able
to
answer
these
questions.
I
had
some
questions
on
pretty
short
notice
because
they
weren't
clear
from
the
document.
It's
just
one
example.
It
was
stated
in
one
that
the
minimum
front
yard
setback
required
is
three
meteors
provided
as
six
and
0.125
meters.
M
Yet
the
zoning
exemption
was
requested
to
lower
the
setback
to
one
and
a
half
meters
didn't
make
any
sense
to
me,
but
miss
Dern
explained
that
this
is
due
to
some
minor
issue
at
the
West
edge
of
the
property,
which
was
not
clearly
explained
in
the
provided
documents.
So
I
asked
her
well.
How
far
will
the
buildings
actually
be
from
the
sidewalk
and
how
this
compared
with
the
apartment
complexes
that
will
be
on
either
side
of
it
and
she
replied?
The
apartments
to
the
West
are
set
back.
M
A
building
setback
of
16
and
a
half
meters
from
the
sidewalk
will
at
least
make
it
kind
of
a
diagonal
line
with
a
setback
of
the
nearby
apartment
buildings
because
it
won't
shut
out.
It
won't
be
much
of
an
eyesore
and
literally
out
of
line
with
everything
else
in
the
neighborhood
and
Beyond.
Thank
you.
B
H
Yeah,
first
of
all,
thank
you
very
much
Lewis
for
coming
out
today
and
taking
the
time
and
I
I
appreciate
your
your
concern
for
it.
It
it
is
precedent
setting.
This
is
something
we're
going
to
see
more
of,
as
we
look
at
intensification
and
I
know
that
you're
you,
you
understand
that
and,
and
and
we'll
probably
see
more
we'll
see
more
buildings.
H
This
is
not
a
part
of
town
that
has
seen
this
kind
of
development
and,
as
you
pointed
out,
six
stories
is
as
of
right
for
for
this
property,
but
your
concern
is
the
frontage
and
the
the
closeness
to
the
sidewalk.
Is
there
specific
concerns
that
you
have
about?
That
is
that
is
it
related
to
the
fact
that
it
may
you
know
that
it
might
crowd
out
or
what
is
the?
What
is
the
specific
well.
M
There
are
two
things:
I
mean
one's
just
the
visual
thing.
What
does
it
look
like?
You
know,
and
we've
got
some
nice
multi-residential
apartment
buildings
with
a
nice
setback.
So
what's
it
going
to
look
like
as
you
drive
along
Carling
and
the
other
thing
is
the
closer
it
gets
to
Carling
as
Carlin
gets
busier
and
busier.
Does
it
leave
you
room
to
to
literally
to
to
put
in
bike
lanes
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
there
there's
a
an
aesthetic
issue
and
then
there's
a
potential
future
issue
in
terms
of
traffic
patterns.
Yeah.
H
M
H
B
N
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
okay,
okay,
making
a
comment
on
the
last
speaker.
One
of
the
problems
of
the
sidewalk
is
the
sidewalk
is
still
close
to
Carling
Avenue.
So
what
happens
in
the
winter
time
is
the
sidewalk
snow.
Plow
throws
a
road
on
snow
and
Carling.
The
carting
is
decided
to
walk.
Snowball
throws
it
back
on
the
sidewalk
and
the
enemy's
office.
We
lose
half
the
right
hand
lane
on
Carling,
so
the
sidewalk
is
too
close
before
we
even
start.
N
Another
concern
with
this
location
is:
this
is
on
a
on
a
corner.
It's
on
a
curve
people
getting
out
of
the
gas
bar
turning
left
will
have
to
look
past
this
building
and
Dodge
the
800
kilometer
speed
limits
that
Vehicles
constantly
go
on
current
Avenue,
so
I
think
the
whole
thing
occurring,
Avenue
the
look,
the
safety
aspects,
the
whole
road
is
a
disaster
right
now.
N
Another
concern
I'd
like
to
mention
is
the
people
keep
talking
about
that?
You
can
put
a
six-story
building
in
because
the
zoning
on
both
sides
allows
I've
gone
back
and
checked
all
the
Sony,
and
what
I
am
discovering
is
what
was
done
back
in
2010
or
so
when
they
did
the
amalgamation
in
the
rezoning.
There's
a
lot
of
classical
mistakes
made
I'd
like
to
an
opinion,
Sony
and
typically
in
a
PN
zoned
middle
complexes,
which
is
what
we're
talking
about
here.
N
Mental
or
nipia
never
put
a
height
limit
on
them,
but
put
a
limitation
that
the
setbacks
to
neighborhood
properties
must
be
1.5
times.
The
height
limitation,
I've
gone
to
the
Ottawa
zoning,
and
almost
every
mental
location
in
the
PN
is
now
zoned
r5a,
with
a
height
limit
of
34
meters.
That
includes
Bayshore
Meadowlands.
All
these
things.
My
position
is
that
these
zonings
are
not
correct.
The
zoning
in
every
case,
along
Kearney
Avenue
is
forest
stories,
are
less
metal.
N
Lens
is
the
same
way
and
also
the
new
official
plan
specifically
says
that
the
the
allowed
building
form
here
should
be
low
rise,
not
mid-rise,
not
high
rise.
So
one
of
the
questions
I
have
is:
how
do
we
reflect
the
intent
of
the
zoning
application
that
the
PN
provided
back
in
the
I?
Don't
know
back
in
the
1970s
or
80s?
And
how
do
we
undo
some
of
these
zoning
mistakes?
We
have
right
now,
I
know
when
we
talked
about
the
official
plan.
N
The
previous
head
of
planning
said
that
if
the
new
official
plan
was
more
restrictive
than
what
was
there
before,
then
the
new
official
plan
would
take
over,
but
in
this
case,
they're
using
the
oil
official
plan
to
justify
the
same
height
in
the
new
official
plan.
So
my
question
is:
how
do
we
handle
this
inconsistency
between
what
was
there
before
and
what
the
new
official
plan
is
trying
to
reflect?
N
N
H
Thank
you
Rick
for
coming
out
today,
I
appreciate
it.
I
know
you've
been
following
it
closely,
and
you
know
the
history
of
of
zoning
in
in
the
what
used
to
be
Nepean
and
now
city
of
Ottawa,
and
it
was
a
mishmash
I
I
get
that,
and
these
are
questions
that
I
can
ask
to
the
planners
when
we
have
a
chance
to
to
ask
that,
because
I
know
that
you've
you've
looked
into
it
heavily
and
also
in
terms
of
the
cedar
tree
at
the
corner.
H
H
N
Well,
I
guess:
the
only
problem
I
have
here
is
we're
setting
a
precedent
by
using
the
existing
zoning
to
overrule
what's
in
the
new
official
plan,
and
that
scares
me
because
that
can
be
used
anywhere
along
currently
Avenue.
Now,
where
the
zoning
is
suspect,
for
example,
the
town
homes
in
Bayshore
are
all
Zone
to
be
34
meters
high,
all
the
town
homes.
Does
that
mean
the
query?
Village
can
tear
them
all
down
and
build
34
meter
Towers
tomorrow
it
seems
like
a
but
that's,
not
the
intended
official
plan.
N
H
A
B
N
B
O
O
No
I
did
not.
Okay.
Can
you
just
explain
your
thinking
as
to
why,
on
a
major
arterial
Road
with
its
proximity
to
both
the
Moody
and
Bayshore
LRT
stations
on
a
road
that
has
OC
transport
bus
service
thinking
long
term,
this
apartment
building
is
going
to
stand
there
for
half
a
century
or
more?
Why
we
wouldn't
be
thinking
about
building
taller
buildings
with
greater
density.
J
The
zoning
permissions
on
the
site
provide
for
six
story
buildings.
The
official
plan
provides
for
gentle
intensification
in
neighborhood
areas
that
are
outside
of
close
proximity
to
transits.
This
site
is
over
a
kilometer
walking
distance
to
Rapid
Transit
and,
as
such,
gentle
intensification
is
appropriate.
H
Thank
you
very
much
chair
and
just
for
councilor
brockington's
knowledge.
It
was
originally
Nine
Stories,
the
first
proposal
so
taller
skinnier
and
after
our
community
meeting,
they
heard
the
feedback
that
that's
was
just
too
much
for
the
residents,
so
they
lowered
it
to
six,
and
but
it's
it's
more
of
a
block.
It's
got
the
same
number
of
units
roughly
so
that
that's
what
happened,
but
anyway,
questions
for
for
staff.
H
J
The
zoning
bylaw
has
been
in
place
for
quite
some
time
now,
but
zoning
gives
a
property
development
rights
and
if
there
is
zoning
on
the
property
that
allows
six
stories,
the
applicant
is
able
to
come
through
with
a
planning
act.
Application
called
a
site
plan
control
where
we're
looking
at
site
design,
but
we're
not
looking
at
Heights
and
massing
development.
Permissions
are
given
by
the
zoning.
So
what
is
in
place
today
is
what
we
are
reviewing
under.
H
Thank
you,
so
we've
heard
the
concern
about
possibly
having
it
the
both
cases.
Both
both
delegates
talked
about
the
sidewalk
being
too
close
to
the
road
that
that
there's
not
enough
allowance
for
pedestrians
and
I.
Think
that's
that's
something
that's
very
important
to
emphasize,
if
that,
if
that's
a
priority
that
we're
giving
pedestrians
a
priority
in
that
area,
this
is
going
to
be
walking.
Distance
of
the
the
DND
headquarters,
which
is
massive.
H
Many
of
those
residents,
will
be
walking
right
now,
there's
not
a
sidewalk
for
part
of
it
we'll
work
on
that,
but
where
we
can
control
it,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
enough
sidewalk
that
it's
comfortable
that
it's
wide
and
also
that
we
have
the
possibility
of
cycle
tracks
on
both
sides
of
the
street.
Right
now
we
have
a
mop
on
the
north
side,
which
will
not
be
adequate
and
that
we
will
need
cycle
tracks
in
the
future
and
possibly
even
bus
bus
lane.
J
A
proposed
37.5
meter,
total
right-of-way,
which
is
what
will
be
provided
once
the
conveyance
with
this
site
is
achieved,
is
a
standard
Urban
arterial
which
would
allow
for
Street
trees,
cycle
Lanes
sidewalks
as
well
as
travel
roads.
So
the
right-of-way
allowance
is
sufficient
to
provide
infrastructure
in
this
area.
J
H
J
H
J
Transportation
has
advised
that
there
is
adequate
space
for
the
infrastructure
that
is
required
in
this
area,
which
would
be
vehicle
traffic,
Lanes,
cycling,
infrastructure,
sidewalks,
again
utilities
and
Street
trees.
There's
no
bus,
Rapid
Transit
planned
at
this
time
or
in
the
future,
dedicated
liens
for
bus
Rapid
Transit
at
this
location,
at
this
time
or
in
the
future.
At
this
location.
This
is
beyond
where
Richmond
turns
down
south
and
most
of
the
transit
will
be
on
the
east
side
of
Carling
heading
down
to
the
LRT
along
Richmond.
H
Okay,
what
we
don't
want
is
to
put
an
emphasis
on
vehicle
traffic,
so
we
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that
is
not
emphasized
and
I
know.
This
is
not
your
your
planner,
not
a
transportation
planner,
but
I
I
think
we
need
to
know
that
the
allowance
is
focusing
on
that
active
Transportation
aspect
when,
when
we
make
these
decisions,
correct.
H
J
There
are
three
or
four
I
think
they're
white
pine
trees
located
at
the
corner
of
the
site
where
the
the
Eastern
corner
of
the
building
is
at
the
front
and
they
will
be
removed
as
a
result
of
development,
as
is
typical
with
development
applications.
Tree
conservation
report
was
submitted
and
reviewed
by
the
city
Forester,
and
they
are
looking
to
see
that
the
removal
is
absolutely
necessary.
There's
no
way
around
it
and
they're
also
looking
to
see
that
there's
adequate
compensation
provided
the
city.
J
P
Thanks
thanks
chair
further
thinking,
this
might
be
a
site
plan
thing,
but
we'll
see.
Are
there
any
plans
in
the
location
you
know
given
given?
This
is
a
denser
development
and-
and
you
know
the
reason
why
a
lot
of
these
buildings
are
closer
to
the
road
nowadays
is-
is
just
changes
in
the
way
that
a
lot
of
these
developments
are
done,
whereas
before
the
focus
was
on
where
the
parking
lot
was.
P
Are
there
any
plans
to
include
some
form
of
Crossing
across
Carling
Avenue,
because
you
have
two
bus
stops
at
all's,
water
and
Crystal,
Beach,
I,
think
and
for
residents
or
passengers
to
get
off
the
bus?
Let's
say
on
the
north
side
of
Carling
to
get
to
this
building.
It
doesn't
look
like
a
very
attractive,
Crossing
and
and
I
think.
The
same
can
be
said
for
cyclists
wanting
to
cross
over
to
the
north
side
of
Arlington
to
the
MVP.
J
B
B
B
G
Q
B
Q
Q
Q
Surrounding
the
property
to
the
immediate
East
and
the
northeast
of
the
site
are
current.
A
residential
low-rise
residential
areas
to
the
further
east
are
several
residential
buildings
of
six
and
attend
stories
immediately
to
the
west
of
the
property
is
a
12-story
residential
Tower,
known
as
the
Danbury
and
to
the
Northwest.
It's
a
five-story
St
Patrick's
home
across
the
road
from
Ridgewood
Avenue
is
a
existing
church
and
Associated
Hall
and
a
parking
space
next
slide.
Please
I
should
note
the
property
is
dedicated
as
neighborhood
in
the
older
Urban
transact
of
the
official
plan.
Q
The
site
is
actually
very
close
to
a
minor,
Corridor
and
evolving
neighborhood
destination.
Next
slide,
please
thank
you.
The
property
is
about
100
meters,
away
in
within
walking
distance
to
Riverside
Drive,
which
is
a
major
Transit
priority
Corridor
in
the
city.
It
is
also
in
walking
distance
to
existing
oxy
transfer,
stops
about
less
than
20
minutes
of
walking
distance
to
the
Future
munis
Bay
LRT
station
next
across
a
load
of
a
reversal.
Drive
is
a
munis
Bay
Park,
which
is
a
major
city
district
park
with
various
recreational
facilities.
Q
Q
So
the
proposal
has
evolved
over
time
since
the
original
submission.
As
a
first
time
automation.
The
applicant
was
proposing
for
five
buildings
on
site,
with
building
Heights,
ranging
from
7
to
25
stories.
At
the
time,
the
courtyard
was
fully
concealed
from
Ridgewood
Avenue
over
time
through
the
technical
review
udrp
and
a
public
consultation.
The
proposal
has
been
revised
to
the
current
design,
which
is
a
four
buildings
on
site:
a
four-story,
a
two
four-story
buildings
and
one
six
story:
buildings
and
the
120
Story
Tower.
Q
Next,
please
so
the
site
is
not
within
the
Urban
Design
review
priority
area.
However,
the
proposal
went
to
an
informal
review
with
the
udrp
given
a
scale
and
the
proposal
changes
that
the
applicant
is
seeking.
The
udrp's
original
comments
was
also
concerned
with
regards
to
the
building
height
Street
Frontage,
along
Ridgewood,
so
those
comments
have
been
addressed
through
the
revision
of
The
Proposal.
The
udrp
was
also
a
generally
supportive
of
The
Proposal
landscape
plan.
Q
Thank
you.
So
the
the
current
Zoning
for
the
property
is
a
gm1.
With
a
boring
floor
space
index
of
1.0,
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
GM
Zone,
with
a
customized
exceptions
for
the
proposal,
that
includes
to
add
a
apartment
high-rise
as
a
permitted
use
to
reduce
minimum
required
parking
from
1.2
space
per
unit
to
0.95
space
per
unit,
building
Heights
will
be
defined
and
the
setbacks
be
specified
according
to
the
schedule
here.
There
are
also
other
exceptions
being
requested,
such
as
permit
rooftop
projection
for
building
2
or
area
B.
In
order
to
allow
amenity
space.
Q
The
site
is
in
close
proximity
to
represent
a
drive
which
is
a
trended
priority,
Corridor
and
I'm
going
to
be
in
a
major
Green
Space,
and
this
meets
the
op
policies
to
encourage
intensification,
how
the
information
in
those
locations
the
applicant,
also
commit
to
a
large
portion
of
the
large
dwelling
units
which
has
welcomed
the
best
staff
and
encouraged
in
the
official
plan.
The
app
can
also
made
a
refinements
to
the
proposal
to
address
udrp
City
staff
and
the
public
concerns
so
the
in
the
end.
B
O
You
chair,
yes,
just
to
formally
add
my
comments
to
the
staff
report,
whereas
the
ward
counselors
comments
were
inadvertently
omitted
from
the
report
on
this
item.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
the
comments
by
the
ward
counselor
section
of
the
report
be
replaced
with
the
text.
As
you
see
on
the
screen,
thanks
chair.
B
R
And
committee,
thank
you.
So
much
I'll
just
introduce
my
team
before
I
get
into
it.
I'm
here
today,
with
the
Architects
lead
Architects
on
the
file
Frank
Puentes
and
Aaron
janushewski,
as
well
as
the
representative
from
the
owner.
John
link,
we're
very
from
Brazil,
and
my
colleague
Jillian
Simpson,
from
poten
we're
representing
Brazil
in
this
file
for
the
zoning
application.
R
I
know
Lily
covered
a
lot
of
the
planning
context,
so
I
will
be
brief
in
that
sense
and
try
to
cover
other
aspects
of
The
Proposal
in
terms
of
our
approach
in
terms
of
compatibility
and
Community
fit
and
context.
Appropriate
development
and
I
welcome
questions
at
the
end
of
the
presentation.
If
I've
missed
anything,
if
you
require
clarification,
next
slide,
please.
R
So,
as
you
have
heard,
the
project
is
at
729
Ridgewood
Avenue,
it's
in
close
proximity
to
a
number
of
important
Community
recreational
employment
and
transportation
services.
Importantly,
as
Lee
mentioned,
it
is
less
than
20
minutes.
17
minute
walk
five
minute
bike
or
five
minute
bus
ride
to
the
mummy's
Bay
LRT
station,
as
well
as
the
future
Baseline
brt
station,
so
many
options
for
alternate
forms
of
transportation.
Next
slide.
Please
also,
as
mentioned-
and
this
is
important
in
terms
of
the
official
plan
designation
book,
which
I'll
talk
to
in
a
minute
of
a
neighborhood
designation.
R
There
are
a
number
of
existing
taller
buildings
in
the
mid
and
high
rise
category
on
the
site,
important
to
note
that
a
number
of
these
are
from
a
different
era
of
development
and
represent
what
would
be
called
the
bar
building
with
significantly
larger
floor
plates
compared
to
the
more
slender
Tower
design
that
we're
proposing
floor
plates
up
to
14
to
1500
square
meters.
Next
slide,
please
important
to
note
that
the
surrounding
contexts
help
to
inform
the
proposed
development
in
the
location
of
massing
and
height
on
the
property.
R
Certain
considerations
included
the
existing
parking
garage,
which
we've
aligned
the
high-rise
Tower
with
you'll,
see
in
a
moment
to
reduce
impacts
on
other,
more
sensitive
uses
in
the
area
in
terms
of
residential
and
recreational
uses,
there's
also
the
undeveloped
amenity
space
to
the
rear
of
property.
You
can
see
it
in
this
image
as
a
tennis
court,
which
helps
provide
additional
buffering
to
more
sensitive
land
uses
in
the
immediate
vicinity.
There's
an
existing
large
Cedar
hedge
row.
R
You
can
see
on
the
bottom
of
the
screen
here,
which
also
provides
additional
buffering
from
the
proposed
development
to
existing
parts
of
the
community.
That
is,
it's
going
to
be
retained
and
also
across
Ridgewood
there's
an
existing
institutional
building
with
a
large
vast
parking
lot,
which
is
typically
not
considered
to
be
a
more
sensitive
use
and
helps
with
transition
to
the
broader
Community.
Next
slide,
please,
as
was
mentioned,
the
project
now
after
revisions
based
on
discussions
with
the
community
and
staff
and
the
counselor
now
is
comprised
of
four
distinct
buildings
elements.
R
The
drive
aisle
is
Central
to
the
site
with
a
interior
Courtyard,
the
Consolidated
dry
vial
helps
to
avoid
unnecessary
altercation
vehicle
and
pedestrian
access
to
the
sighting
and
consolidate
the
consolidates
it
to
one
area.
Next
slide,
please,
as
we
can
see
here,
the
site
is
accessible
via
VIA.
Multiple
production
access
points
and
the
design
characteristics
will
promote
the
continuation
of
The
Pedestrian
fabric
along
Ridgewood,
which
is
further
complemented
by
the
at
grade
public
facing
amenities,
commercial
and
retail
space
on
the
site.
R
Next
slide,
please,
as
was
mentioned,
there
is
444
residential
units
within
the
project
over
10
of
which
are
two
plus
Den
in
three
bedroom
units
and
there's
a
proposed
bicycle
parking,
which
is
attempting
to
achieve
the
one-to-one
ratio
to
help
to
ensure
a
healthy
modal
split,
as
well
as
the
reduced
parking
requirements
for
the
site,
as
proposed
in
the
zoning
bylaw
Amendment.
Next
slide,
please,
as
Lily
mentioned
the
site
with
is
within
the
neighborhood
designation
and
the
official
plan.
R
Intensification
is
encouraged
throughout
the
city
to
achieve
more
growth
and
infill
and
Urban
Development
than
otherwise
and
in
the
neighborhood
designation
Heights
of
taller
buildings
above
the
low
rise
profile
are
promoted
where
and
the
site
is
in
an
area
characterized
by
high-risk
buildings
and
design
objectives
are
achieved.
Thanks
I'll
skip
ahead
to
slide
11.
If
you
don't
mind,
as
discussed
below
the
proposal,
here's
the
overarching
design
direction
of
the
official
plan.
The
site
is
over
13
000
square
meters
and
using
appropriate
design
and
transition
measures.
R
R
Please,
a
number
of
other
elements
have
been
included
within
the
project
to
ensure
compounded
compatibility,
low
rise
along
Ridgewood
Community,
facing
a
local
retail
space
and
in
general
The
Proposal
represents
the
development
of
an
underutilized
and
card
Centric
site
at
this
moment
towards
a
more
compatible
infill
development
and
I
should
mention.
Is
a
unique
aspect
of
the
zoning
bylaw
Provisions
that
have
been
provided,
the
the
setbacks
have
had
also
been
included
for
the
underground
garage.
R
B
O
I,
don't
all
this
to
say:
I've
worked
with
both
Brazil
and
and
their
representative
for
a
number
of
years
and
I
just
want
to
publicly
acknowledge
my
appreciation
for
their
commitment
to
listening
to
the
community
and
other
groups.
This
proposal
has
evolved,
as
a
number
have
acknowledged
over
the
past
few
years
and
I
think
that,
while
not
everyone
says
it's
perfect,
a
number
of
ranges
that
have
been
made
have
made
this
proposal
much
more
palatable
and
good
fit
for
the
community.
So
I
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
today.
Thank
you.
O
S
Thank
you,
so
much
chair
and
I
know
we'll
be
working
together
on
the
development
near
the
bus
station
in
my
Awards.
So
I
do
appreciate,
taking
a
look
at
what
you
put
together
here.
I
just
have
a
question
because
the
site
is
located
near
Mooney's
Bay.
It's
got
strong
cycling
pass.
It's
near
Carlton,
just
wondering
why
so
few
cycling
bike
parking
spaces.
Given
the
number
of
residents
you've
got
about
226
and
there's
444
units.
R
Thank
you,
councilor
truster,
great
question,
yeah
I
think
we
are
striving
to
achieve
that,
one
to
one
which
is
becoming
much
more
standard
these
days
that
will
be
further
explored
through
the
site
plan
Control
process,
which
is
ongoing.
It's
it's
understood
that
decided
is
in
a
really
great
location
to
facilitate
active
Transportation,
including
cycling,
especially
along
the
river
Pathways,
and
that
is
certainly
an
objective
of
the
development
and
something
that
we're
exploring
currently.
S
B
T
B
To
give
the
media
something
on
this
one
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
bead.
We
do
have
two
public
delegations.
First
up
Craig,
Searle
and
Mr
Searle
will
be
followed
by
Elliot,
bourgeois
Mr
Searle.
Are
you
online?
I
am
oh
there
you
are.
You
have
welcome
to
planning
and
housing
committee.
You
have
five
minutes
to
address
the
committee.
U
Thank
you
good
morning,
chair
leaper
and
fellow
committee
members.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
this
morning
as
a
resident
of
Riverside
Park
for
over
22
years
and
active
in
the
community
as
a
past.
Vice
president
and
president
of
the
Riverside
Park
Community
Association
I
am
quite
familiar
and
an
actively
involved
in
many
development
proposals
in
our
neighborhood,
such
as
the
canoe
Bay
site,
St,
Pat's,
nursing,
home,
the
ysb
center,
the
Mooney's
Bay
Early,
Learning
Center,
and
further
to
the
South.
U
The
perspective
Taggart
development
at
Hunt
Club
in
Riverside,
with
this
proposed
development
in
Ridgewood
Brazil,
has
worked
well
with
the
community,
and
their
development
plan
has
been
revised
many
times,
as
we've
heard
earlier,
in
a
positive
way
as
a
direct
result
of
community
feedback
and
Brazil's
willingness
to
listen
to
the
community
and
amend
their
plan
to
better
blend
in
with
the
neighborhood.
This
has
not
always
been
the
case
with
other
developers
in
our
neighborhood.
U
U
The
aspect-
the
commercial
aspect
of
this
plan
is
a
vital
addition
to
our
community
and
very
much
needed.
I.
Do,
however,
continue
to
have
concerns
about
how
all
these
new
developments,
such
as
the
Brazil
development,
the
Saint
Pat's
expansion,
the
norbury
770
Brookfield
and
the
Taggart
development
at
Hunt,
Comfort
Riverside
Drive,
with
the
increased
density,
will
impact
an
already
congested
Riverside
Drive.
U
It
mentions
that
para
2.1.3
that
canoe,
Bay
and
770
Brookfield
will
have
completed,
which
is
incorrect,
and
there
is
no
mention
of
the
Taggart
ysb
Saint
Pat's
and
Early
Learning
Center
developments,
which
will
already,
which
will
add
to
the
traffic
volume
in
their
study
I,
believe
their
para
3.2.2,
which
states
traffic
along
the
study
area
roadways
is
not
anticipated.
To
increase
drastically
is
wrong.
U
U
U
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Craig
I
appreciate
the
comments,
particularly
on
the
architecture.
I.
Think
every
member
of
the
committee
wishes.
We
had
a
bit
more
interesting
architecture
in
the
city,
we're
approving
lots
of
high-rises,
but
we're
not
getting
that
interesting.
Skyline
editorial
comments.
Aside.
Do
members
have
any
questions
for
Mr,
Searle
I,
don't
see
any.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
intervention
today.
Craig.
Thank
you.
Next
presentation
is
from
Elliot
bourgeois.
V
B
B
V
Thank
you
well,
I
promise.
It
won't
take
five
minutes,
so
thank
you.
Committee
members
delegates
applicants
for
for
allowing
me
to
speak
here
today.
I
will
be
a
representative
for
the
small
community.
That's
hiding
behind
that
will
be
hiding
in
the
shade
of
this
building.
That
will
be
going
up
in
the
in
the
corner
of
the
of
the
lot
here
so
I'm,
a
proponent
for
everything
that
that
the
gentleman
said
before
me
a
whole
proponent
of
the
intensification
and
of
the
commercial
space
being
used
more
effectively.
V
I
think
it's
a
great
plan.
The
original
this
plan
had
been
revised
a
few
times
to
our
detriment
to
the
road
houses
that
is
lining
the
this
street.
Oh
I,
can't
share
screen
here,
but
I
I
could
show
that
there's
a
line
of
building
the
line
of
small
residential
houses
behind
that
tennis
court
that
will
be
affected
by
this
dominant
building
in
our
Southern
Skyline.
V
But
you
know
it
is
strictly
really
to
just
voice
the
you
know.
The
concern
that
it
would
be
20
stories
is
pretty
tall.
I
think
it
was
originally
planning
to
that.
The
high
rise
was
going
to
be
closer
to
Ridgewood,
but
the
Danbury
people
were
affected
were
worried
that
that
was
going
to
affect
their
view.
Moving
the
tower
to
the
back
end
of
the
lot
is
going
to
adversely
affect
the
road
passes.
Skyline.
D
B
O
Thanks
Jerry
I
do
want
to
follow
up
on
on
the
last
speaker's
point
about
shadowing
the
the
location
of
the
tower
has
always
been
where
it
is,
while
some
of
the
other
buildings
have
been
modified
with
their
location
and
height,
the
the
tower
was
always
scheduled
to
be
sort
of
the
North
End.
The
tower
height
has
been
change.
26
stories,
25
stories
now
down
to
20.
O
a
shadow
study
has
been
produced.
Can
you
talk
to
the
committee
about
shadowing
the
resident,
there's
a
very
generous
setback
to
begin
with,
I
think
it's
36
meters
at
the
very
least,
but
the
residential
Community
to
the
media
North?
What
type
of
impacts
are
they
going
to
see
with
respect
to
shadowing
from
the
tower.
Q
Q
The
shuttle
study
does
indicate
that
the
impact
on
the
residential
backyards
and
as
a
result
of
the
towers,
is
minimum
suicide
plan.
Once
the
building
design
is
more
detailized,
the
rooftop
is
more
refined.
Will
take
a
more
detailed
look
into
the
shadow
study
to
minimize
the
any
impacts
on
the
tennis
Accord,
where
we
can
as
well.
O
W
Q
W
Thank
you
for
the
question
and
through
you
chair,
the
shadow
study
does
does
Define
the
updated
building,
Heights
and
whatnot.
Not
only
were
we
concerned
about
the
impacts
on
these
with
these
low-rise
properties
to
the
north,
but
also
questions
were
raised
by
the
community
as
far
as
Shadow
impacts
on
the
Garden
area
of
the
St
Patrick's
lot
as
well,
and
with
the
shadow
of
study
that
that
we
were
provided.
W
We
could
see
that
because
of
the
narrower
floor
plate
of
this
power,
the
the
shattering
impacts
are
are
actually
quite
minimal
in
in
that,
throughout
a
lot
of
the
year,
the
the
height
of
the
power
doesn't
doesn't
even
provide
a
shadow
on
these
lots
and
in
times
of
the
year
where
there
is
shadowing
impacts,
the
narrowness
of
this
Tower
results
in
shattering
impacts
of
only
less
than
a
couple
of
hours
per
per.
You
know
lot
so
from
from
that
point
of
view.
W
The
the
impacts
are
are
minimal
and
I
would
say
that,
because
of
the
form
of
this
development,
if
say,
building
two,
where
it's
six
stories,
if
that
was
taller,
that
that
bar
building
shape
would
create
more
of
a
shadowing
impact.
But
because
the
form
of
this,
this
development
has
taken
that
high-rise
and
mid-rise
shape.
H
Q
So
counselor
and
then
share
a
quick
response
of
the
know.
The
offer
bahaden
was
a
nod
being
considered
a
pseudos,
only
environment,
for
this
application.
It
is
more
up
to
the
applicant
to
evaluate
the
market
and
propose
anything
according
to
them.
You
know
whether
it's
at
or
below
or
above
market
value.
H
Q
The
when
we
look
at
this
proposal
we're
considering
the
access
to
the
transit,
the
access
to
a
large
major
amenity
space,
so
those
are
all
important
factors
to
contribute
to
the
quality
of
the
life
to
the
Future
residents.
So
that's
why
we
see
this
as
a
positive
development
and
Improvement
to
the
community.
D
H
Q
So
is
contemplated
for
one
of
the
buildings
fronting
onto
Ridgewood
and
the
the
ground
floor
for
that
building
will
be
dedicated
for
commercial
space.
How
the
developer
will
Market,
it
I
believe
it
well.
According
to
the
community
needs
and
the
market,
the
demand
I
would
agree.
A
grocery
store
would
be
appropriate
here.
O
That
yeah
I
will
acknowledge
that
we
did
lose
the
only
grocery
store
in
the
neighborhood
of
8
000
people,
the
country
grocer,
and
that
requires
us
all
to
travel
out
of
the
community
to
shop
and
as
Mr
Searle
indicated.
There
are
a
number
of
proposals
in
this
immediate
Community.
Other
development
proposals,
where
we're
trying
to
leverage
opportunities
to
bring
in
even
small
grocery
retailers
which
are
being
considered.
O
B
B
J
J
This
site
is
a
1.28
hectare.
Vacant
lot
located
on
the
south
side
of
Maritime
Way
north
of
the
417
in
Kanata
Town
Center
surrounding
land
uses
include
to
the
north
across
Maritime
way,
is
a
five-story
hotel,
the
Marriott
Town
Place
Suites
a
one
point:
six
four
hectare
lot:
that's
currently
vacant
in
the
Williams
Court
residential
complex,
which
compresses
five
buildings
of
five
to
twelve
stories
in
height
to
the
West
is
timberwalk.
A
recently
completed,
seven-story
retirement
home
and
across
Canada
Avenue
is
the
main
commercial
portion
of
the
kineta
Town
Center.
J
To
the
East
are
vacant
sites
for
development
along
Maritime,
Way
Beyond,
which
is
a
storm
water
management
Pond
to
the
South,
is
Highway
417.
next
slide,
please,
the
area's
designated
Town
Center
in
the
Suburban
transect,
the
subject
lands
are
within
the
boundaries
of
the
Canada
Town
Center
secondary
plan
and
are
designated
a
central
business
district.
The
Canada
Town
Center
secondary
plan
permits
high-rise
buildings
up
to
30
stories
at
this
location.
J
The
proposed
development
consists
of
two
high-rise
buildings
arranged
in
a
v-shape
containing
a
total
of
615
dwellings
and
390
98
square
meters
of
commercial
space
fronting
Maritime
way.
The
Eastern
Building
is
28
Stories.
The
Western
Building
is
30
stories
and
they
are
each
set
on
a
seven-story
podium.
J
J
J
The
height
and
scale
of
the
buildings
was
reviewed
in
accordance
with
official
plan
and
key
design
guidelines.
This
location
represents
a
significant
opportunity
for
intensification
in
proximity
to
Transit,
and
the
specific
policies
of
the
official
plan
that
allow
for
the
consideration
of
taller
buildings
have
been
met.
J
The
setbacks
provided
to
surrounding
properties
and
Canada
Avenue
are
consistent
with
the
regulations
for
high-rise
buildings
in
the
zoning
bylaw,
and
provide
adequate
space
for
sidewalks,
facilitate
trees,
plantings
within
the
road
right-of-way
and
provide
active,
Street
frontages
to
create
a
pleasant
pedestrian
environment.
Thank
you.
E
E
X
I
also
wanted
to
expand
a
little
bit
on
the
process
through
negotiations
with
Lisa
and
also
with
udrp.
Some
significant
changes
were
made
to
the
proposal
from
what
was
initially
submitted
to
do
with
the
massing,
in
particular,
the
heights
of
the
buildings,
their
locations
and
particularly
in
bringing
built
form
that
single
story
built
form,
which
is
where
the
commercial,
the
398
square
meters
of
commercial,
bring
that
closer
to
Maritime
way
and
activizing
that
Frontage
and
providing
some
commercial
which
wasn't
in
the
initial
proposal.
B
B
Y
Z
Z
Today
we're
discussing
a
deviation
to
the
height
of
buildings
in
the
area
for
reference.
We
I'm
going
to
call
this
the
the
Canada
City
Center,
because
it
is
part
of
it.
I
know
it's
called
the
town
center,
but
it
might
be
confused
with
the
Canada
Town
Center
across
the
south
of
it,
which
was
a
disaster
a
long
Maritime
way,
and
there
are
banners
posted
on
the
on
the
late
standards.
Z
At
this
time,
three
apartments
on
the
northwest
corner
of
approximately
15
15
stories
high
and
an
old
retirement
home,
just
about
100
meters,
east
of
that
of
about
six
stories
in
the
complex
on
the
south
east
side
or
the
Southwest
end,
which
is
the
streets
I
just
mentioned.
There
are
approximately
at
the
point
now
eight
apartment
buildings,
the
tallest
being
five-story,
are
being
12,
Stories,
the
shortest
being
five
stories.
There
are
three
hotels,
two
within
within
the
the
maritime
area
and
one
across
which
was
already
mentioned
to
the
Holiday
Inn.
Z
All
of
these
buildings
conform
to
What
I
would
call
the
height
restrictions
that
have
already
been
there
and
which
it
seems
that
all
the
buildings
that
are
being
built
and
the
three
that
are
pro
and
the
three
sites
that
are
are
now
under
construction
are
all
adhering
to
the
site
requirements
which
ice,
which,
in
my
mind,
was
put
there
for
a
purpose.
There
must
be
a
reason
there
was
a
height
restriction
put
on
on
this
area
for
the
life
of
me.
I
can't
see
why
this
particular
development
wants
to
go
up.
Z
30
stories
when
all
you
have
to
do
is
conform
and
look
at
what
is
existing
there
and
I
know
if
any
of
you
have
ever
walked
or
traveled
around
our
area.
You
know
what
I'm
talking
about
this
is
totally
out
of
whack
with
what's
what's
what's
there
and
what's
what
the
vision
of
the
Canada
Town
Center
was
for
I
I
admit
we
have
no
problems
with
with
the
apartment
going
up.
Everything
that
they
are
saying
is
true.
Every
of
course,
all
the
other
developer
developments
and
developers
put
up
came
up
with
the
same.
Z
It's
a
great
place
to
be
one
of
the
things
they
mentioned
was
the
transit
site
that
built
it
and
they
will
come.
Nobody
takes
public
transport
out
there.
I
myself
came
in
here
this
morning.
I
was
the
only
individual
I
left,
my
house,
at
a
quarter
to
eight
to
get
here.
I
got
here
25
after
nine
I
was
the
only
guy
that
got
on
the
61
at
the
corner
of
Canada
and
lady
and
Lord
Bing,
because
that's
where
they
would
get,
they
won't
go
to
the
transit
station.
Z
Z
Believe
me,
there
are
only
two
buses
that
come
down
here
or
come
into
the
city,
the
61
and
the
62
from
there
run
every
half
hour,
I,
don't
know
if
that's
going
to
change,
but
that
whole
area
as
far
as
Transit
goal
will
completely
change
once
the
The
Moody
Drive
station
is
open.
So
it's
a
moot
reason.
People
there
do
not
take
public
transit,
I
I
took
active,
Transportation
I
took
that
this
morning,
I've
lived
there
seven
years
and
I
take
the
bus
and
I
walk.
Z
So
I
have
a
pretty
good
idea
who
takes
the
bus
and
people
work
Canada
north
in
the
in
the
in
the
high-tech
area
they
work
from
home.
Now
then,
though,
Everything's
changed
since
covet
the
makeup
of
the
of
of
the
the
tenants
that
live
in
that
area.
I'm
a
senior
citizen,
probably
half
of
the
people
that
are
moving
into
this
area-
are
senior
citizens,
the
other.
On
my
four
to
16
Apartments.
Okay,
nine
of
us
are
senior
citizens.
Four
of
us
are
people
in
there.
Z
I
would
say
40s
and
50s,
whose
lifestyle
is
Apartments
now
they're
not
going
to
be
looking
to
buy
a
home
and
young
people
in
their
20s
and
30s,
who
might
be
looking
to
buy
a
home,
but
in
an
apartment
right
now
any
work
from
home.
They
go
to
DND
or
they
go
to
the
high
tech
center.
Nobody
is
going
to
take
a
transport
into
what
I
want
to
work
and
nobody
takes
public
transport
for
recreational
purposes.
Believe
me,
you're,.
AA
Thank
you
Mr
chair,
and
thank
you
for
all
the
rigmarole
here
with
me.
Getting
on
this
call.
I
am
just
down
the
hall
George
nice
to
see
you
thanks
for
coming
all
the
way
down
here
today,
you're
right
and
that
part
of
the
rationale
for
this
increase
in
height
is
because
eventually
we'll
have
stage
three
and
we'll
have
a
stop
there
at
Terry
Fox
with
the
LRT
coming
right.
There,
though,
do
you
not
see
that
maybe
in
the
future,
it'll
change
people's
habits,
absolutely
I
agree.
AA
C
AA
Sorry
George
I
just
said:
can
you
not
see
that
maybe
in
the
future,
with
LRT
right
there
that
the
usage
of
Transit
might
change
no
okay?
Our
predictions
are
such
that
it
would
be
much
more
used,
but
I
can
appreciate
that
it's
hard
when
there's
nobody
on
the
buses
right
now,
thanks
for
coming,
though
George.
B
E
E
Z
I
didn't
say
all
the
buses
were
empty.
Look
if
you
stand
in
the
corner
of
Lady,
Bing
or
Lord,
Bing
and
and
Canada,
and
watch
the
buses
that
exit
out
of
there
and
they
all
exit
out
of
there
that
go
in
there.
Most
of
them
are
I.
I
got
on.
I
was
the
only
one
on
the
bus
at
that
station
and
that's
right
where
this
building
is
going
up.
I
was
the
only
one
I'm,
not
saying
that
in
the
future.
That
might
happen,
but
I
people,
the
the
417,
was
clogged
right
through
the
eagleson.
Z
B
I'm,
sorry,
did
you
lower
your
hand?
Oh
fairness,
I'm,
sorry,
counselor
George
said,
don't
see
any
other
questions
for
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
intervention.
Today,
Mr
fluffner
was
the
the
last
public
delegation
so
we'll
turn
to
questions
of
Staff.
If
there's
anyone
have
any
questions
for
staff.
P
J
P
Thank
you,
and,
and
just
to
supplement
that
as
well.
The
public
delegation
mentioned
something
about
the
zoning
there
being
for,
for
this
application
being
out
of
quote
out
of
black
unquote,
you
know
I'm
looking
at
the
Canada
Center
secondary
plan,
whatever
it's
called
the
Canada
City
Center
secondary
plan
and
that
parcel
south
of
Maritime
way
is
actually
for
10
to
30
stories,
whereas
north
of
it
is
for
slightly
lower.
P
J
This
current,
this
secondary
plan
was
carried
forward
into
this
official
plan.
It
was
previously
the
Canada
Town
Center
special
policy
area
and
had
some
and
was
carried
forward
verbatim
into
the
new
official
plan.
I
can't
remember
offhand,
there's
been
the
timing.
Certainly
there's
been
plans
for
high
density
development
in
Canada
Town
Center,
since
the
90s
and
heights
were
updated
in
the
late
2010s.
P
Thank
you
and
last
thing
is
just
a
comment.
I
want
to
supplement
counselor
gower's
comments
about
Transit
usage
in
the
area.
The
the
public
delegation
took
the
bus
quarter
to
eight,
which
is
7
45
A.M
right
quarter
after
eight,
maybe
either
way
it's
during
morning
Peak,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
bus
routes
in
the
area
that
specifically
divert
ridership
from
there
to
reduce
overcrowding
right.
The
61c
skips
Terry
Fox.
You
have
the
61d,
which
goes
straight
to
the
Eagles
and
park
and
ride.
P
You
have
tons
of
Express
buses
in
the
area
that
make
give
the
appearance
of
you
know,
emptier
buses
and,
and
all
that
is
to
serve
all
that
is
to
benefit
the
writers
on
katimovic
drive,
so
they
don't
have
to
be
crowded
out
by
buses,
leaving
Terry
Fox
full.
So
it's
just
a
comment
to
supplement
to
councilman
gower's
comments
there,
so
I,
don't
I.
I
really
would
disagree
with
those
comments
about
the
buses
being
empty.
T
AA
AA
So
as
that
delegation
mentioned,
though
it
is,
it
is
very
high
for
the
area,
and
that
is
what
we
heard.
You
got
many
emails
about
it
over
time.
This
started
long
ago
with
counselor
Suds,
the
consultation
and
at
the
time
things
were
different
right.
Things
have
changed
and
you
know
the
community
has
said
this
is
awfully
high,
but
it
fits
within
the
secondary
plan
allowances.
Now
as
soon
as
we
do
that
that
zoning
review
Mr
chair
this
would
come
into
compliance
immediately
right.
The
30.
AA
The
high
rise
is
30
stories
so
but
I
appreciate
the
challenges
for
the
community.
Certainly
you
know
the
traffic
and
parking
on
the
side.
Streets
has
been
an
issue,
but
there
is
ample
parking
plus
bike
parking.
It
will
be
close
to
transit
in
the
future,
as
I
said
earlier,
like
100
years
from
now.
This
will
be,
you
know
the
place,
but
the
overall
theme
I've
tried
to
say
to
Residents
and
I
will
say
to
you
is,
if
not
here,
then,
where
you
know
where,
where
do
you
play
put
30-story
buildings?
AA
AA
B
B
L
L
AB
That
would
be
an
aggregated
amount
in
a
functional
rectangular
area
where
a
tree
might
be
planted
and
might
survive.
This
would
be
far
better
than
a
small
strip
around
the
perimeter.
The
r4u
zoning
requires
a
similar
aggregated
rectangular
area,
but
indicated
that
25
meter
Square
was
required
for
tree
survival.
So,
even
though
this
report
looks
like
it's
talking
about,
the
tree
could
survive
it's
a
bit
unclear
and
hopefully
forestry
could
provide
an
answer
to
that
next
slide.
Please.
AB
AB
Currently
long
semis
have
not
had
to
provide
any
rear
yard.
Soft
Landscaping
in
hintonburg.
Most
of
these
are
all
on
small
lots
that
are
300
meters
square
or
less
almost
all
semis
in
the
area
have
the
entire
rear
yard
paved
with
asphalt
from
lot
line
to
lot
line
any
other
building
in
the
r4u
zone,
with
four
units
or
more
on
a
lot.
That's
under
450
meters
square
is
prohibited
from
providing
any
parking,
but
the
long
semis
have
been
exempt
from
this
requirement.
AB
So
in
this
one
you
see,
they've
got
probably
actually
six
spots
in
this
one
between
the
two
buildings.
So
three,
each
next
slide.
Please
note
the
trees
in
green
space
in
the
neighboring
properties
and
nothing
on
this
one.
Any
building
with
three
units
or
more
and
the
r4u
Zone
must
provide
a
minimum
of
35
meters
square
soft
landscaping
and
ensure
an
aggregated
rectangular
area
of
25
meters
square,
which
we
were
told
then
was
the
area
needed
to
support
the
growth
of
a
tree
and
25.
Meter
square
is
not
all
that
big.
AB
AB
Please
vote
for
these
interim
measures
and
consider
our
suggestion
to
add
at
least
an
aggregated
area
sufficient
for
a
tree
to
grow
before
rear
yards
are
completely
paved
over.
The
new
zoning
bylaw
must
ensure
that
long
semis
are
required
to
follow
requirements
of
any
other
four
or
six
unit
building.
Thank
you.
B
B
AB
To
incorporate
option
four
together
with
option
five,
which
talks
about
having
a
an
aggregated
area,
so
not
just
15
percent,
that's
cover
that
would
be
soft
Landscaping,
but
also
having
an
aggregated
area.
That's
15
square
meters
and
a
rectangular
shape
that
would
be
a
functional
rectangle
and
using
the
wording
from
the
r4u
zoning,
which
talks
about
I.
Think
it's
twice
as
wide
as
long,
but
to
incorporate
that
language
in
so
that
you
have
a
functional
space
as
opposed
to
just
a
strip
around.
The
perimeter
which
I
worked
out.
B
H
H
We
We've
we've
worked
hard
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
green
area
on
the
front,
but
it
is
a
concern
and
I
found
that
also
it's
about
drainage
that
people
behind
those
those
properties
are
concerned
about
all
the
pavement
there
and
we
haven't
said
that
they
must
be
permeable
driveways
either
so
anyway,
I'll
be
asking
staff
about
comments
on
that.
This
is
something
we
noticed
as
well
that
that
this
is
a
concern,
so
I
appreciate
your
your
proposal
and
I'm
just
going
to
throw
this
out
because
I
prefer
trees.
H
AB
Yeah
and
I
that
was
discussed
at
the
meeting
and
I
know
that
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
pushback
on
that
by
industry
in
terms
of
the
cost.
We
would
love
to
see
that
absolutely
that
it
be
permeable
surfaces,
whether
it
doesn't
have
to
be
permeable
pavers,
it
could
be
gravel,
would
work,
that's
going
to
absorb
moisture,
because
we
do
see
people
in
surrounding
properties
getting
a
lot
of
water
it
it's
it.
It
is
supposed
to
be.
AB
The
drainage
is
supposed
to
be
there,
it's
supposed
to
be
graded
correctly
and
that's
not
happening
and
then
trying
to
get
that
corrected
is
years.
If
at
all
and
a
lot
of
frustration
and
ass
and
nagging
in
it,
it
still
doesn't
happen
so
preventing
it
in
the
first
place
is,
is
the
best
plan
absolutely.
H
AB
B
G
Maybe
not,
as
short
as
my
first
presentation,
but
hopefully
still
a
little
less
yeah.
We
worked
alongside
staff
on
a
number
of
discussions
over
these
and
the
options
available.
We're
happy
to
support
option
two,
as
staff's
recommendation
for
the
adus
I
really
want
to
see
those
things
progress
in
terms
of
the
backyard
Landscaping
of
the
options
happy
to
support
option
three,
which
is
certainly
you
know
the
limit
of
70
percent
Paving
on
for
parking.
G
The
reason
why
we
choose
three
over
five,
which
is
staff's
recommendation,
is
to
maximize
the
flexibility
of
that
remaining
thirty
percent.
You
have
consideration
for
patios,
Pathways
storage
for
garbage
or
bicycles,
or
what
have
you
so
we'd
like
to
see
a
bit
more
flexibility
on
that
30
percent
But?
Ultimately,
you
know
we
want
to
see
this
progress
and
move
forward,
and
you
know
what
I'll
leave
it
there
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
E
G
I,
don't
have
any
specifics.
What
I
would
say
is
that
members
are
holding
back
proceeding
with
these
types
of
projects
until
this
is
settled
right
that
there's
a
hesitation
there,
because
you
don't
want
to
have
to
fight
on
a
case-by-case
basis
about
what
the
rules-
and
you
know
what
the
rules
are
going
to
be
doing
that
and
not
proceeding
with
this.
H
G
Sure
so,
as
the
previous
delegate
did
say,
we
permeal
permeable
Paving
was
brought
up
as
the
discussions.
It
would
be.
Certainly
if
you
were
talking
about
like
interlocked,
one
of
our
members
did
did
a
quick
calculation
on
one
of
the.
You
know
any
of
the
typical
kind
of
pictures
that
Cheryl
had
shown
earlier
and
you're
looking
at
about
say
about
a
forty
thousand
dollar
increase
in
that
kind
of
cost.
H
Okay,
understood,
but
you
you
see
the
concern
of
drainage,
because
I
I've
already
been
through
this
already
with
for
sure
new
developments
that
had
previously
been
empty
lots
more
or
less
and
then
totally
paved
at
the
back,
which
means
the
person
behind
them
gets
run
off
so
and
and
the
need
for
trees.
What
about
increasing
the
capacity
for
trees
at
the
back.
G
So
you'd,
ultimately
with
your
third,
if
you're
you're
doing
70
parking,
you're
30,
you
could
split
up.
However,
however,
you
want
to
do
that
if
you
wanted
to
devote
more
space
to
green
and
add
to
trees.
Certainly
the
the
changes
would
allow
you
to
do
that
now.
I'd
also
reference
that
we
are
working
with
the
city
on
the
infrastructure
side
on
on-site
stormwater
management
to
retain,
because
there's
a
lot
of
movement
there
on
smaller
projects,
which
would
you
know
if
you're
increasing
roof
surface?
G
H
AC
AC
B
Y
Thank
you,
chair,
I
hope.
You
can
understand
me
here
well
and
good
evening.
Good
morning
say
good
morning,
chair
Lipa
and
members
of
the
planning
and
zoning
committee.
The
FCA
planning
and
zoning
committee
would
like
to
make
some
comments
regarding
the
bird
23
implementation
into
the
current
zoning
bylaw.
Y
We
support
the
lifting
of
the
30
rule
for
accessory
units,
and
it
gives
a
real
chance
to
create
livable
additional
dwelling
units
allowing
entrances
to
the
SSO
accessory
units
on
the
front
of
the
building
will
allow
greater
access
for
our
residence
with
Mobility
needs.
A
shared
single
entrance
would
be
a
preferred
solution,
but
it's
not
always
feasible
to
implement
parking
in
rear
yards.
This
is
a
hot
topic
for
a
lot
of
our
members
as
valuable
Green.
Space
is
disappearing
at
a
rapid
Pace
you
heard
before
from
Cheryl.
Y
It
is
understood
that
there
is
currently
loan
limitation
on
all
and
therefore
any
intermediate
restriction
is
better
than
none
at
all
option.
Five,
with
the
70
parking,
driveway
and
minimum
of
15
lands,
soft
Landscaping
would
be
the
preferred
option.
We
would
like
to
say
a
thank
you
to
the
zoning
group
with
David
Wise
Robert
send
us
God
and
Carol
Woody
for
the
open
discussion
between
staff,
the
industry
presented
by
gova
and
us.
Thank
you,
chair.
B
B
AD
Hi
I'm
I
have
a
presentation:
okay,
so
like
many
people
in
the
more
densely
developed
neighborhoods
in
Ottawa,
I'm
really
concerned
about
the
whole
heat
island
and
storm
water
issues
and
I
think
that
these
should
be
considered
right
at
the
beginning.
When
you
decide
to
craft
changes
to
zoning
now
regarding
the
options
for
addressing
parking
and
rear
yards
I,
my
point
is:
once
permissions
are
given
it's
hard
to
remove
them.
So
how
does
this
work
with
the
heat
island
storm
water
issues?
Next
slide,
please,
okay!
AD
AD
We
or
we
can
continue
to
do
nothing
and
then
we
end
up
with
our
new
abnormal
frequent
violent
weather
events,
polluted
air
wind
storms,
summer
and
winter
rain,
storms,
ice
storms,
blizzards
power,
outages,
tree
losses,
property
damage,
insufficient
sewer
and
storm
water
capacities
to
control
over
land
flooding,
streets,
undermined
by
water,
drinking
water,
quality,
affected,
novel
pathogens,
food
insecurity
as
arable
land
and
even
backyard
gardens
are
consumed
by
buildings.
Mental
and
physical
health
is
compromised.
Health
care
costs
are
already
skyrocketing.
AD
AD
This
just
kind
of
confirms
what
that
the
heat,
island
and
and
tree
canopy
really
do
sort
of
come
together
in
2017
the
tree
canopy
in
Champlain
Park
and
surrounding
area
generally
Concords
with
the
hotter
and
cooler
areas
in
the
2019
Peak
Island
map,
the
coolest
areas
have
both
Street
and
rear
yard
trees.
Next
slide
tree.
Please.
AD
So
everyone
lives
on
a
watershed.
Problems
with
water
start
on
the
land,
and
this
is
a
picture
of
showing
that
the
inner
urban
transect
overlized,
the
drinking
water
intake
protection,
Zone
ip2
and
it's
the
vulnerability-
is
measured
on
a
10-point
scale
and
shows
how
quickly
water
and
pollutants
move
from
the
surface
to
the
aquifer.
A
high
vulnerability
area
has
a
score
of
8
or
10.
AD
Ipz2
includes
the
on
and
offshore
areas
where
flowing
water
and
any
pollution
would
reach
the
intake
pipes
within
two
hours,
so
storm
water,
runoff
volume
and
Associated
pollutants
are
now
an
ongoing
problem
for
Champlain
Park
kitchissippi
other
Ottawa
residents
and
the
Ottawa
river
water
quality.
Generally
in
many
parts
of
Ottawa,
the
naturally
limited
permeability,
it's
Limestone,
Bedrock
Adam
near
the
surface,
means
that
the
climate
change
induced
free
increasingly
frequent
summer
and
winter
extreme
rain
events
overwhelm
storm
sewers
and
undermined
streets.
AD
We've
had
a
long
huge
volume
of
large
footprint
intensification
from
since
2007,
with
trees
removed,
severely
reduced
available
permeability.
The
development
already
exceeds
the
capacity
of
storm
water
and
sewer
systems.
We
saw
this
just
this
summer.
We've
had
a
lot
going
ongoing
for
the
last
few
years
in
July
on
July
28th,
a
series
of
severe
supercell
thunderstorms
created,
flash
flooding,
hail
power,
outages,
tornadoes,
major
damage
to
homes
and
vehicles.
AD
My
vehicle
was
one
August
10th,
77
millimeters
of
rain,
fell
in
a
few
hours,
flash
flooding
power,
outages,
sanitary
sewers,
regurgitated
contents
into
many
homes,
major
damage
to
homes.
The
combined
sewage
storage
tunnel
has
only
been
in
service
since
2020
I
recognize
that
the
volume
of
discharge
would
have
been
much
worse
without
it.
But
this
is
faint
praise.
More
big
storms
are
inevitable.
We
need
an
integrated
approach.
Let's
build
green
infrastructure
requirements
into
any
zoning
bylaw
that
we
have
next,
please
so.
Options
for
addressing
parking
in
rear
yards
so
do
does
the
do.
AD
What
we're
promo,
proposing
promote
development
of
safe,
healthy
streets
and
plant
spaces,
or
are
we
promoting
a
city
where
no
one
can
be
outside
in
the
summer
due
to
hot,
polluted
air
or
in
Winter
due
to
icy
sidewalks
and
encroaching
vehicles
or
wild
weather
in
any
season?
Will
the
kids
have
a
safe,
healthy
streets
and
places
to
play
that
there's
attractive
outdoor
space?
For
people
of
all
ages
and
abilities,
Ottawa
cannot
afford
to
replace
sanitary
and
storm
water
infrastructure.
How
can
people
be
expected
to
accept
repeated
sewage
events?
AD
AD
We
consider
the
three
proceeding
maps
showing
our
heat
island
tree
canopy
and
water
intake
protection
Zone.
As
a
report
card.
They
tell
us,
we
have
a
long
way
to
go
to
mitigate
damage.
That's
already
been
done.
Bylaws
and
Builders
are
not
yet
considering
the
increasing
number
of
wild
weather
events,
damage
and
Associated
costs
escalate
to
every
for
everyone.
If
our
bylaws
do
not
take
climate
change
into
consideration
and
really
the
development
Community
greatly
benefits
from
up
zoning
and
fewer
by
long
restrictions
in
return,
they
need
to
incorporate
Green,
Building
and
green
infrastructure
into
their
project.
AD
Plans
in
this
particular
case,
while
allocating
significant
outdoor
space
to
parking
should
not
be
a
first
consideration
anywhere,
allowing
it
in
the
more
densely
populated
transects,
just
because
it
might
be
desirable
in
outer
Urban
and
Suburban.
Transects
proves
that
the
one-size-fits
all
does
not
work
everywhere
and
will
cause
harm,
as
shown
in
the
three
preceding
slides.
B
B
B
AD
Well,
I
would
I
would
go
with
Cheryl's
option,
but
I
would
add
that
we
only
allow
it
if
all
surfaces
are
fully
permeable
require.
This
now
allow
only
if
a
significant
space
is
retained
as
green
space
with
room
for
trees
to
thrive
require
this.
Now
it's
not
valid
to
argue
that
providing
Green
Space
adds
to
an
owner's
cost
to
maintain
a
property
trees.
B
Fantastic
and
I
I
fully
agree
and
I'm
going
to
be
asking
staff
about
some
of
the
other
processes
right
now,
I
I
am
concerned
that
it's
not
a
holistic
look
at
how
to
deal
with
the
built
form
of
an
intensifying
City
and
extreme
climate
change.
Related
events
so
I'll
be
asking
some
questions
to
stop
on
that
Heather.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
president.
Just
make
sure
I
I'm
not
missing
anyone.
AD
B
F
Well,
thank
you
chair.
We
always
have
to
remember
that
these
are
interim
measures,
there's
a
lot
of
other
moving
pieces
that
are
going
that
are
that
are
working
at
the
same
time.
This
is
in
conjunction
with
the
urban
Forest
management
plan,
we'll
be
starting
the
Urban
Tree
planning
strategy
fairly
soon.
This
is
also
what,
in
conjunction
of
working
with
the
infrastructure
master
plan
as
well
as
is
Jason
berggruff
noted.
We
have
some
of
those
recommendations
coming
through
now.
F
F
So
that's
within
the
reporters,
the
regulation
that
we
are
strongly
considering
the
other
regulation
that
we're
also
strongly
considering,
is
providing
and
requiring
that
1.2
meter
buffer
to
also
be
required
there
as
well
to
make
sure
that
there
is
in
fact,
actually
a
spacing
distance
around
those
parking
areas
that
might
be
provided,
so
those
would
be
above
and
beyond
whichever
those
options
are
that
that
are
directed
from
planning
committee
today.
So
staff
are
indeed
working
on
those.
B
F
Tara
I
do
have
to
leave
that
to
our
infrastructure,
master
plan
and
colleagues
as
they
work
their
way
through.
They
are
still
in
discussions
with
some
of
those
details.
I
think
they
believe
also
have
a
technical
consultant,
that's
also
working
with
them,
so
I'd
have
to
defer
to
them
to
to
provide
some
of
those
details.
The
intent,
though,
as
we
work
our
way
through
is
to
do
as
at
all
possible
is
for
post-development
flows
to
match.
F
Pre-Development
flows
I.E
keep
as
much
water
on
the
site
as
you
can
to
not
make
the
problem
worse,
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
in
which
to
do
that.
The
challenge
is
to
make
it
as
cost
efficient
and
as
effective
as
possible,
so
that
you're
not
resulting
in
additional
procedural
hurdles
for
for
developing
to
move
its
way
through,
but
so
that
we
have
a
fairly
simple
and
easy
solution
going
forward.
AE
We've
got
a
path
forward
and
there's
more
discussion
to
come
because
I'd
be
very
hesitant
to
prove
that
portion
of
today's
report.
Knowing
that
there's
still
infrastructure
and
tree
canopy
considerations,
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
moving
Parts
here.
So
just
for
my
clarity.
What
exactly
as
part
of
this
discussion
in
the
rear
yard
surface
allocations?
What
are
we
supporting
here
today?
What
are
you
asking
us
to
approve.
F
Thank
you
very
much.
The
the
challenge
that
we
have
right
now
is.
We
are
to
be
blunt
in
a
reactive
mode
and
we
are
in
a
reactive
mode,
because
the
changes
to
build
22br
in
effect
now,
which
means
that
we
have
development
that
is
now
moving
forward
under
building
permit
now
that
can
pay
100
of
the
rear
yard.
F
Now
there
are
indeed
discussions
that
are
happening
with
respect
to
the
comprehensive
zoning
bylaw
process
through
the
infrastructure
master
plan
process.
That
will
happen
through
the
urban
Forest
management
plan
process
that
will
work
its
way
through,
but
right
now
we
know
that
we
have
a
challenge,
and
we
know
that
if
we
allow
development
to
proceed
as
it
is
right
now,
we
will
continue
to
have
those
challenges.
AE
F
F
Now
we
will
take
that
direction
and
we
will
go
back
and
we
will
craft
a
zoning
bylaw
and
we
will
bring
that
zoning
bylaw
back
to
committee
within
one
or
two
months
time
and
we
will
present
the
regulations
on
how
development
will
move
forward
in
the
interim
period
while
we
craft
that
larger
holistic
view
of
the
zoning
bylaw.
So
this
is
all
about
how
we
manage
development.
F
Now,
as
I
said,
we
are
in
a
reactive
mode,
because
Bill
23
is
in
effect
now
and
development
is
happening
now,
but
we
need
to
solve
this
issue
and
understand
with
Clarity
From
staff's
perspective
and
From
industry's
perspective,
how
we
can
move
forward
together
so
that
we
can
then
turn
our
attention
to
actually
looking
at
the
proactive
future
zoning
bylaw.
That's
the
challenge
that
we
have
and
that's
the
direction
that
we're
seeking.
Okay,
no.
AE
I
I
appreciate
that,
because
I
just
don't
want
us
to
make
a
decision
today
and
then
find
out,
we've
made
one
our
storm
water
issues.
Worse,
we've
made
any
major
detrimental
decisions
occurs
regarding
our
tree
canopy
and
I'm,
keeping
in
mind
the
fact
too,
that
we're
also
trying
to
mitigate
street
parking
right,
because
if
we
take,
if
we
take
out
the
opportunity
for
any
of
these
spaces
and
rear
yards
to
be
parking,
they're
going
to
go
to
our
streets
unless
they
have
easy
access
to
transit
or
their
cyclists.
AE
AF
B
This
is
not
out
of
Conformity
with
with
our
zoning,
and
we
are
giving
them
direction
to
go
away
with
the
option.
Five,
which
is
don't
let
them
pave
over
the
entire
back,
a
lot
for
parking
they're
going
to
craft
a
zoning
bylaw
for
our
consideration,
which
will
be
in
time
for
the
provincial
deadline.
So
that's,
basically,
what
we're
doing
today
is
guiding
them.
Counselor,
Lowe.
P
Thank
you
chair,
so,
given
that
these
are
interim
measures
and
and
something
more
holistic
is
coming
down,
the
pipe
do
you
foresee
and
I
know
you
can't
speak
for
developers
or
Builders,
but
do
you
foresee
developers
and
builders
waiting
until
that
more
holistic
approach
comes
and
result?
You
know
which
can
result
in
a
Deluge,
let's
say
of
applications
to
come
after
that
holistic
approach
is
done,
and
if
so,
are
you
prepared
to
handle
that.
F
Chair
with
respect
to
how
the
development
industry
might
react
to
these,
it's
might
be
best
to
bring
Mr
burgerf
back
up
to
ask,
and
we
can't.
We
can't
forecast
that
we
do
know,
and
we
do
appreciate
that
uncertainty
regarding
how
you
can
divvy
up
the
interior
of
a
building.
How
do
you
manage
the
relationship
between
those
various
units?
That
is
a
challenge
that
they
are
currently
dealing
with,
how
they
can
get
access
to
those
units
with
the
entranceway
requirements?
Things
like
that
those
are
challenges.
F
Those
affect
the
economics
of
how
you
are
actually
going
to
be
able
to
develop
that
home
itself.
With
respect
to
the
options
that
we've
presented,
that
we
have
had
discussions
with
industry
with
respect
to
the
70
parking
allowance,
as
I
said,
the
Baseline
that
is
right
now
is
no
restrictions
at
all.
100
of
the
rear
yard
can
be
used
for
parking
so
70.
F
Basically,
in
effect,
that's
going
from
three
cars,
three
parking
spaces
in
a
rear
yard
to
two
parking
spaces
in
a
rear
yard,
so
that
will
be
up
to
a
developer
as
to
how
they
are.
You
know
marketing
their
development
as
to
you
know,
does
this
work
for
them
with
respect
to
their
proforma?
Those
are
things
that
we
can't
answer.
We
do
understand
that
in
general
they
are
supportive
of
the
70
and
feel
that
they
can
still
make
that
work
with
the
development
models
that
they
do
have.
F
B
Thank
you
very
much
counselor.
So
if
we
adopt
the
staff
recommendations
today,
they
will
still
be
bringing
us
a
proposed
zoning
bylaw
to
to
vote
on
in
a
month
or
so,
and
then,
of
course,
we're
going
to
have
a
radically
different
zoning
bylaw
as
they
continue
to
work
through
the
comprehensive
zoning
bylaw
review.
But
this
is
a
necessary
interim
step.
B
I
also
want
to
reiterate
I
believe
it
was
Ms
Parrott
who
thanks
staff
for
fostering,
or
it
was
Robert
Robert
binkuru
thanks
staff
for
fostering
a
good
productive
dialogue
between
staff
communities
and
the
industry.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
your
work
on
that
is
this
report
carried
Gary.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
B
Thank
you
and
Paul
Lauren
and
Claire
now
I
didn't.
Thank
you
earlier
on
the
section
37
report
for
the
contribution
to
the
Ottawa
Community
Land,
Trust
I
know
you
were
creative
in
that
and
you
were
open-minded
in
that
and
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
So,
thank
you
for
your
willingness
to
take
a
chance
with
me.
B
B
B
B
D
B
T
B
B
B
B
AF
Thank
you
to
set
the
framework
for
how
we've
determined
the
recommendations
for
allocation
of
funding
that
are
before
you
today.
We
look
to
the
vision
and
objectives
of
several
guiding
documents.
Firstly,
there's
the
10-year
housing
and
homelessness
plan,
and
it
provides
that
300
to
570
new,
affordable
housing
units
are
needed
annually
to
meet
the
plan's
overall
Target
to
create
5700
to
8
500
new,
affordable
housing
options,
so
that
would
include
include
housing
allowances
and
benefits
as
well,
so
that
are
that's
between
2020
and
2030.
AF
A
key
component
of
the
plan
is
that
10
percent
of
all
new
affordable
units
are
Supportive
Housing.
The
long-range
financial
plan
supports
the
10-year
plan
and
assumes
that
a
one-third
investment
from
all
levels
of
government
totaling,
565
million,
will
deliver
500
new
units
per
year
for
that
10-year
period,
at
the
four-year
Mark.
Now
we're
we're
tracking,
fairly
well
in
terms
of
Investments
at
217
million
has
been
invested
with
the
city's
contribution
slightly
more
than
its
share
at
36
percent.
AF
Well,
we
haven't
met
our
overall
targets.
We
have
far
exceeded
the
goal
of
10
percent
of
new
units
being
Supportive
Housing
pandemic
related
funding
from
The
Province
and
the
federal
government
have
have
helped
us
achieve
that.
The
recommendations
in
this
report
will
also
support
the
creation
of
new
Supportive
Housing,
with
a
minimum
of
144
units
being
funded
next
slide.
Please.
AF
The
other
two
documents
that
support
the
vision
and
objectives
for
affordable
housing
include
the
municipal
housing
pledge
and
the
integrated
transition
to
housing
strategy.
The
housing
pledge
was
endorsed
by
Council
in
March
2023
and
has
a
target
of
151
000
new
units
overall
to
be
constructed
by
2031
and
within
Housing
Services.
There
are
several
initiatives
currently
underway
that
will
contribute
to
the
city
meeting
this
provincially
mandated
Target.
AF
The
integrated
transition
to
housing
strategy
is
comprised
of
short
to
long
term
strategies
to
support
people
experiencing
homelessness,
with
the
aim
of
transitioning
them
to
permanent
housing.
It
also
addresses
our
immediate
pressures
on
the
shelter
system.
The
strategy
includes
the
creation
of
a
new
Supportive
Housing,
Community
Hub,
which
is
now
being
considered
for
possibly
the
the
property
at
1245
Kilbourne
place,
Capital
investments
in
new
housing
over
the
past
several
years,
aligned
with
the
Mandate
of
this
strategy.
AF
The
funding
will
also
provide
contingency
toward
408
units
that
are
underway,
and
that
includes
271
units
by
OCH
at
mechanic
next
slide.
Please
so
recommendation
two
is
for
the
balance
of
the
term
of
council,
and
that
is
50.7
million
dollars
in
funding.
It's
made
up
of
45
million
in
city
capital,
15
million
for
each
year
of
the
lrfp
under
the
current
lrfp
and
then
5.17
in
million
in
provincial
funding,
and
that's
the
only
other
known
funding
at
this
time.
B
B
AG
AG
My
name
is
Mary
Wong
and
I'm.
I
am
coming
here
to
speak
as
to
the
president
of
Senator
Senator
Town,
Community
Association,
and
the
co-chair
of
the
cca's
housing
affordability
working
group
also
being
involved
with
Ottawa
Community
benefits
Network
for
the
last
four
years
and
I'm,
a
member
of
the
task
force
the
to
revitalize
Ottawa
downtown,
where
we
examine
options
to
convert
residential
officer
residential
the.
AG
Sorry,
the
Sea
of
Auto
has
declared
a
homeless
housing
homeless
emergency
in
2020
and
we
have
the
10-year
housing
homeless
plan,
as
well
as
the
inter
the
integrated
transition
to
housing
strategy
from
this
year.
Everyone
can
see
that
the
housing
and
homelessness
issue
the
housing
crisis
holds.
The
issue
has
increased
over
the
last
few
years
as
all
major
cities
in
Canada.
We
have
a
lot
of
more
people
with
that
sleeping
rough
and
so
on.
We
lose
seven
units
of
housing
under
750
for
each
unit.
AG
The
government
can
afford
to
build
and
and
that's
according
to
a
study
by
Steve
Pomeroy
and
that's
using
the
dates
of
2016
to
2020.,
so
I'm
here
to
to
be
in
support
of
the
house.
Affordable
housing
project
under
discussion
to
be
funded
and
I
would
like
to
propose
some
ideas
which
we
can
potentially
speed
up
things
even
faster,
so
a
fantastic
project.
AG
The
but
I
would
like
to
speak,
especially
in
favor
of
things
like
the
mhi
and
drink
cooperation
for
dream,
laboratory
Flats,
where
there
was
133
units
of
deeper,
affordable
housing
to
be
owned
by
mhi
at
79
of
medium
Market,
red
MMR,
sorry,
59,
the
its
stream
that
has
a
79
percent
for
117
units,
and
that
is
a
a
level
of
affordability.
That's
obtained
by
the
15
million
dollars.
The
city
Autos
is
funding
the
mhi
plus
the
15.7
million
dollars
from
co-investment
and
the
concession
prices
on
the
land
plus
higher
density.
AG
So,
but
this
is
a
very
interesting
new
model
which
that
bodies
ask
for
higher
density
actually
do
some
affordable
housing
with
the
nonprofit
housing
provider.
So,
in
addition
to
the
support,
I
would
like
to
suggest
few
options.
One
is
using
the
mhi
dream
model.
Maybe
we
can
require
some
of
the
developer,
asking
additional
density,
which
there's
a
lot
of
in
Center
town
to
offer
or
as
a
bylaw
requirement
to
do
some
affordable
housing,
preferably
with
nonprofit
housing
provider.
AG
I
actually
helped
to
organize
a
virtual
meeting
for
the
task
force
with
Steve
Painter
of
a
cancer
group
who
developed
an
expertise
in
conversions
and
they,
as
well
as
a
conversion
calculator.
They
helped
the
City
of
Calgary
with
their
the
Downtown
Development
incentive
program
and
also
I,
have
also
talked
with
the
federal
government,
multiple
departments
and
Ministries
and
MPS
about
the
potential
of
a
section,
95
type
acquisition
fund,
Federal
acquisition
fund,
a
subsidized,
two
percent
interest
rate
and
longer
amortization
at
50
years,
and
recently.
AG
We've
also
requested
that
30-year
terms
to
be
offered
to
non-profits
instead
of
10-year
consecutive
terms,
as
they
do
right
now,
because
the
predictability
has
a
lot
of
value
for
nonprofits.
So
that
concludes
my
my
delegation
and
I'm
open
to
answering
any
questions
or
discuss
any
of
these
ideas.
Further.
Thank
you.
Mary.
S
Hi
Mary,
thank
you
so
much
I
share
your
passion
for
housing
acquisition,
I'm,
really
thrilled
that
at
this
meeting
we
actually
just
approved
Jeff
Lee
Council
leaper,
using
his
acquisition.
It's
section
37
money
to
help
the
the
Ottawa
Community
Land
Trust
acquire
its
first
property
and
I
hope
to
do
the
same
in
my
ward.
If
I
can
figure
out
how
to
consolidate
this,
I
can
only
buy
a
new
award
yeah
if
I
I'm,
looking
to
consolidate
section
37
money
in
other
categories
and
moving
into
affordable
housing
to
help
with
an
acquisition
in
my
Awards.
S
So
Paul
I'd
be
very
excited
to
talk
about
that
in
the
future.
But
I
know
that
you
referred
to
the
Toronto's
Municipal
acquisition
program,
and
so
now
we
do
have
the
land
trust
that's
starting
to
do
some
Acquisitions.
What
do
you
think
the
city
could
do
to
help?
What?
How
would
you
envision
a
city-based
acquisition
program,
I.
AG
Think
it's
it
needs
some
funding
to
to
actually
the
issue
with
non-profits.
You
don't
have
Capital.
So
what
they
don't
have
is
the
quick
access
to
money.
I
volunteer
for
CCOC
and
I
know
I,
don't
think
it's
confidential.
They
actually
bid
on
several
civil
properties,
rooming
houses
and
they
had
the
highest
bid,
but
they
have
condition
for
financing
while
the
a
regular
developer
did
not
and
they
lost
it
to
the
to
the
developer.
AG
They
are
being
judged
on
the
the
project,
which
is
a
lot
tighter
and
then
inquired
co-investment
require
all
three
levels
of
government
right
now.
Provincial
funding
is
almost
missing
action,
so
so
it's
very
difficult
to
get
co-investment
through
as
well
as
I
heard.
The
grant
money
is
down
to
very
small
amounts
around
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
per
door
and
more
the
money
is
in
rcf5
and
and
loan-based
financing.
That's
why
we've
been
I
know:
BC
did
a
500
million
dollar
fund
to
be
Grant
based,
but
at
cost
of
housing
in
in
BC?
AG
S
Can
yeah?
Thank
you
very
much
for
that.
I
appreciate
that
I
very
interested
to
see
if
the
federal
government
comes
through
with
some
federal
acquisition
money,
that's
something
we
advocated
for
when
I
worked
at
fcm
and
in
the
meantime,
I'm
excited
about
the
first
acquisition
that
councilor
leaper
is
helping
the
land
trust
by
so
more
on
that
later.
Actually.
AG
Can
I
make
additional
comment
recently?
The
newly
appointed
Administration
Frazier
actually
said
that
there
there's
a
growing
Narrative
of
housing
as
infrastructure
and
that's
why
we've
been
talking
to
them
about,
like
Vienna
in
Singapore,
has
access
to
very
low
rate
financing
for
their
their
housing
and
that's
something
which
I
think
Canada
should
adopt.
And
it's
a
case
where
you
know
our
roads,
all
our
bridges.
Our
LRT
can
get
low
low
financing.
Why
not
our
housing?
When
it's
1500
years
old
lifespan,.
B
H
H
It's
like
a
wonderful
Storybook
of
what
we're
doing
next
and
appreciate
it,
but
we
know
it's
we
need
more,
and
one
of
the
concerns
I
have
is
is
the
growth
we
have
12
000
people
right
now
on
waiting
lists
for
affordable
housing,
and
this
will,
you
know,
help,
but
we
need
so
much
more
and
we're
hearing
about
influxes
of
refugees
coming
in
and
we
need
to
accommodate
them
as
well.
Do
we
have
a
strategy
that
will
work
towards
finding
funding
to
accommodate
these?
These
new
people
coming
in
who
need
housing
as
well.
B
Thank
you
for
the
question
and
through
you,
Mr
chose.
Undoubtedly
there
there
has
been
incredible
strain
put
on
our
housing
system
in
including
our
emergency
response,
and
we
are
working
out
all
that
with
all
levels
of
government
to
to
mitigate
the
issues
to
people
are
at
the
table.
People
are
identifying
strategies,
not
just
around
housing
but
along
the
Continuum
of
Care,
such
as
employment
and
and
acquiring
life
skills,
to
move
people
through
the
system
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
we
are
also
locally.
B
We
are
working
with
our
our
immigration
organizations,
Social
Services.
Everybody
is
working
together
on
how
we
can
streamline
the
processes
build
on
bit
on
best
practices,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
best
practices.
There
are
some
really
good
successes
happening.
So
how
can
we,
in
the
short
term
capitalize
on
those
successes
to
make
sure
that
you
know
people
who
come
to
Canada
don't
end
up
in
an
emergency
shelter
right?
H
B
AF
AF
We
didn't
set
aside
the
funds
this
year
for
pre-development
funding,
but
there
are,
as
you'll,
see
in
document
4
to
the
report.
There
are
over
1200
units
that
are
in
various
stages
of
pre-development,
getting
prepared
for
being
shovel,
ready
or
or
investment
ready,
so
I
think
we're
tracking
well
in
that
regard,
just
need
the
funding.
H
I
appreciate
it
and,
of
course,
I
appreciate
Ottawa
Community,
housing's
role
in
that
who
are
very
interested
in
in
Building,
large-scale,
Development
and
small
scale
development,
but
I
also
appreciate
the
other
partners
and
I
want
to
say
that
that's
important
as
well
that
we
have
that
variety
and
appreciate
those
efforts.
Thank
you.
P
P
You
should
have
a
lot
of
choice
across
the
city
to
be
able
to
afford
where
you
want
to
live
so
and
and
the
thing
that
my
colleague
counselor
Kavanaugh
there
said
about
shovel
ready
like
I,
feel
like
there
is
a
lot
of
potential
in
partnering
with
private
developers
in
getting
these
projects
off
the
ground,
quicker,
at
least
on
the
physical
building
side.
So
are
there
any
things
things
in
in
the
in
this
strategic
plan
to
to
account
for
more
inclusionary
zoning
or
at
least
introducing
it
on
a
small
scale?
AF
Chair
the
we
are
working
on
a
community
Improvement
plan,
it's
not
in
this
strategy,
but
we're
working
on
a
community
Improvement
plan
for
affordable
housing
that
would
Target
the
private
sector
and
incentivize
them
provide
some
Financial
offset
I
suppose
to
be
able
to
deliver
some
affordable
units
that
will
be
before
finance
and
Corporate
Services
committee
on
October
3rd.
We
inclusionary
zoning
is
actually
on
hold
at
the
moment.
It's
pending
regulations
to
come
out
through
Bill
23,
but
again
that
would
Target
private
sector
Developers
for
affordable
housing.
AF
S
S
But
in
the
specific
neighborhood
and
Somerset
ward
has
the
highest
rate
of
poverty
in
the
city,
so
it
really
will
be
deeply
affordable
but,
on
the
contrary,
we're
seeing
lots
of
examples
where
private
developers
have
benefited
from
the
rental
construction
financing
initiative
through
the
cmhc
and
they
produce
zero,
affordable
housing.
So,
every
time
a
private
developer
comes
to
me
and
wants
to
build
a
tall
building,
I'm
encouraging
them
to
explore
this
model,
because
I
think
it
has
a
lot
of
potential,
but
I
am
so.
S
S
This
is
not
acceptable
and
I'm
not
saying
that
staff
aren't
doing
everything
you
can,
but
we're
not
giving
you
the
money
that
you
need
to
build,
affordable
housing
anywhere
close
to
the
scale
that
we
need
in
this
city.
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
that
a
one
percent
tax
increase
would
be
20
million
dollars.
S
Other
cities
have
considered
an
affordable
housing
tax
levy
that
would
be
20
million
dollars
a
year
that
could
go
to
affordable
housing
I'm.
Just
putting
that
idea
out
there,
because
I
know
that
my
next
question
so
my
question
that
I'm
getting
to
is
so
you
mentioned:
should
there
be
any
remaining
or
additional
funding
that
there
are
other
priority
projects
that
you'd
like
to
fund?
What
is
the
funding
Gap?
S
S
S
So
obviously,
if
any
of
our
federal
provincial
partners
are
listening,
this
is
an
invitation
to
come
to
the
table,
but
I
would
suggest
that,
if
we're
more
ambitious,
we're
going
to
attract
more
investment
and
so
just
to
repeat
1249
new
apartments
approved
just
today
in
this
meeting
and
less
than
that
are
proposed
for
the
next
four
years.
That
really
does
worry
me.
I
also
just
wanted
I
have
some
concerns
about
the
data
in
this
report.
I
pointed
this
out.
S
Actually,
when
the
housing
department
gave
an
orientation
to
new
counselors
a
few
months
ago,
it
is
still
listing
the
average
Market
rent
in
Ottawa
for
a
studio
apartment
in
the
neighborhood
of
eleven
hundred
dollars.
It's
double
that
now
in
downtown
Ottawa.
It's
two
thousand
eighteen
hundred
to
two
thousand
for
Studio
to
one
bedroom,
so
I'm
just
very
concerned
that
we're
working
with
numbers
that
are
up
to
50
percent
inaccurate.
S
I
just
did
a
perusal
of
rental
listings
this
morning,
while
we
were
sitting
in
this
meeting
I'm
not
seeing
a
single
apartment,
that's
less
than
eighteen
hundred
dollars
in
the
city
of
Ottawa
right
now,
if
I'm,
seeing
anything
less
than
that,
it's
to
share
an
apartment,
so
I
I'm
just
wondering
what
we
can
do.
I
mean
I
understand
that
those
are
provincial
averages,
but
I'm
concerned
with
the
city
is
using
those
averages.
B
Thank
you
for
the
question
counselor
through
you,
chair,
I'm,
not
surprised
to
to
to
hear
that
they
seem
shocking.
They
are
22
2022
numbers
that
are
that
are
cmhc,
it's
not
the
city
that
determines
that
and
and
we
have
to
use
those
numbers.
It's
our
ongoing
issue
between
you
know
someone
setting
the
rates
and
the
actual
cost
of
renting
in
this
community
and
then
calculating
the
housing
benefits.
It's
it's
a
bit
of
a
nightmare.
S
Yeah
well-
and
you
know
very
well
that
people
are
not
accepting
the
portable
housing
subsidy
they're
staying
in
shelter
because
they
know
that
that
portable
housing
subsidy
will
not
get
them
the
housing
they
need
on
the
private
market,
and
this
is
part
of
why
we
have
so
many.
We
are
300
capacity
in
the
family,
shelter
system.
Yes,.
S
Yes,
I
am
very
excited
about
the
pilot
for
a
higher
subsidy
for
bigger
families
and
I've
been
talking
about
that
I.
Think
that's
a
very
good
thing.
I
just
have
my
last
question.
Is
you
know,
given
the
backlog
we
have
in
the
pipeline?
I
know
I
asked
this
when
you
brought
the
initial
housing
HAF
application
to
us,
but
why
did
we
not
ask
for
more
money
if
we
have
unfunded
projects
sitting
in
the
pipeline,
foreign.
B
S
What
would
you
need
from
us
to
be
more
ambitious?
Is
what
I'm
saying
I
know.
The
answer
is
money,
but
you
know
I
would
I
know
that
we're
entering
a
budget
period
where
council
is
going
to
tell
you
approximately
what
tax
rate
to
set,
but
I
would
really
like
to
know
how
much
money
you
would
need
to
actually
meet
our
targets
for
affordable
housing
I'll.
Let
you
sit
with
that.
S
AC
AH
C
B
I
B
AH
Okay,
my
next
question-
I,
don't
think-
is
relevant
anymore,
but
saying
I'm
struggling
a
little
bit
with
the
targets
we
have
set
for
ourselves,
because
I
completely
appreciate
the
need
to
be
aspirational
in
the
targets,
given
the
need
given
the
wait
list,
but
we're
failing
the
targets.
The
current
targets
pretty
significantly
so
I'm
concerned
that
they're
not
realistic,
we're
just
talking
about
sort
of
realistic
expectations
for
ourselves.
So
I,
don't
know
how
you
square
that
circle
in
terms
of
setting
something
that's
aspirational,
but
at
the
same
time
achievable
so
I.
B
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair
and
I
appreciate
the
question.
It's
actually
been
a
source
of
a
great
discussion
in
this
sector,
housing
and
homelessness.
When
we
were
developing
the
the
10-year
plan,
the
first
iteration
as
well
as
the
refresh-
and
you
know
it's
always
that
debate-
how
aspirational
do
you
go
with
your
targets
and
and
with
respect
to
the
affordable
housing
options?
B
So
all
this
to
say
that
there
there
are
some,
obviously
some
extenuating
factors
that
are
beyond
our
control,
but
going
back
reflecting
back
on
when
we
established
with
these
targets
with
the
community,
it
wasn't
just
staff
that
did
that
we
did.
It
was
based
on
extensive
Constitution
with
the
community.
I
still
believe
that
those
targets
were
appropriate.
Okay,.
B
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
the
that
that
Target
is
not
the
best.
It's
certainly
the
the
deeper
the
affordability
affordability,
the
best
it
is.
It's
also
tied
to
the
amount
of
funding.
So
if
more
funding
would
be
available,
we
would
be
able
to
purchase
a
deeper
affordability.
Unfortunately,
we're
trying
to
stretch
the
dollars
as
much
as
we
can
and
and
cater
to
a
wide
range
of
of
people
who
who
need
who
need
our
our
services
and
need
affordable
housing.
S
You
counselor
kids
I
was
wondering
if
I
could
just
clarify
that
though,
but
it
is
a
mixed
market
model
in
those
buildings.
So
that's
why
the
average
might
look
higher.
So
there
are
that
this
is
the
first.
The
building
across
the
street
is
the
first
time
CCOC
ever
or
sorry.
Och
experimented
with
this
model,
which
is
very
similar
to
CCOC,
which
is
that
it's
50
market
and
50
percent
deeply
affordable
in
the
building.
AI
Plan,
thank
you,
chair
and
I'd,
really
like
to
thank
staff
for
their
great
work
on
this
Capital
strategy
and
update.
I
know
that
my
ward
is
a
beneficiary
of
some
of
the
capital
Investments
that
have
been
undertaken,
including
by
Ottawa
community
housing
for
715
mckennach
road,
which
we
heard
about
271,
affordable
units
and
other
Investments
Habitat
for
Humanity
Shepherds
of
Good
Hope
in
the
past.
AI
AI
So
I
just
wanted
to
ask
staff
if
they
could
speak
to
the
impact
of
inflation,
because
we
know
a
dollar
that
we
approve
today
is
not
worth
the
same
next
year,
and
we
know
that
these
are
multi-year
projects
in
terms
of
implementation
and
construction,
and
we
also
know
that
you
know
over
the
last
several
years,
we've
seen
the
impact
of
inflation
and
as
well
supply
chain
on
our
construction
project.
So
I'm
just
wondering
how
we
stop
accounting
for
the
impact
of
inflation.
In
this
Capital
strategy,.
B
Thank
you
for
the
question
is
Mr
chair
through
you.
Without
a
doubt,
the
the
high
interest
rates,
the
inflation
inflationary
costs
construction,
have
have
risen
and
have
have
made
it
more
difficult
for
us
to
meet
our
our
targets
and
and
objectives
just
to
put
it
into
perspective
about
three
years
ago,
the
average
Chef
city
was
around
120
000
and
now
we're
up
to
200
000..
AI
I
appreciate
that
answer
so
to
translate.
Are
we
being
proactive
when
we
are
dealing
with
senior
levels
of
government
in
terms
of
the
the
requirements,
because
there
have
been
projects
where
you
know
we
have
received
dollars,
but
we
have
to
come
back
for
for
more,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
we're
being
more
proactive
due
to
the
impact
of
inflation
when
we
are
having
negotiations-
and
you
know,
negotiating
Financial
arrangements
with
with
the
senior
levels
of
government.
B
Thank
you
for
the
question.
In
actual
fact,
yes,
the
short
answer
is
yes,
we
are.
We
meet
regularly
with
with
our
colleagues
at
cmhc
to
review
the
projects
to
review
the
the
barriers,
the
the
challenges
that
we're
experiencing,
and
especially
the
increased
cost
and
inflationary
impact
that
it
has
on
our
project.
So
with
every
opportunity
we
take.
We
we
certainly
do
take
advantage
of
it
to
try
to
mitigate
these
these
scenarios
and
make
sure
that
we
we
deliver
on
target.
AI
I
appreciate
that
I
know
that
yesterday
we
got
some
confirmation
that
the
city
treasurer
and
the
finance
department
is
working
on
a
municipal
price
index,
and
if
we
are
seeing
a
refresh
of
our
10-year
housing
and
homelessness
plan,
it
would
be
good
to
ensure
that
that
MPI
is
integrated
into
that
report,
or
at
least
that's
Financial
formula
is
integrated
into
that
report.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
hard
work
on
this
report.
AI
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilor
King
I
thought
for
sure.
Council
troster
was
going
to
lower
emotion
on
us,
explain
some
truth
not
yet
not
yet
biting
time.
I,
don't
see
any
other
questions
for
staff,
Laura
and
Paul.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
continued
excellent
work
on
this
and
thank
you
to
members
of
the
committee
as
well
meeting
after
meeting
this
committee
is
seized
with
housing
issues.
B
It's
it's
noticeable
I've
been
a
city
councilor
now
for
nine
years,
and
this
committee
is
dealing
far
more
with
housing
issues
than
previously
indicative
I.
Think
of
the
commitment
this
Council
has
made
to
addressing
housing
issues
in
the
city.
So
is
this
report
carried
fantastic?
Thank
you
very
much.
Colleagues
I,
don't
think
counselor
Hill
is
here.
He
spoke
to
me
very
briefly
about
his
motion
with
respect
to
the
requirements
to
mitigate
against
increased
wind
uplift
low
loads
on
roofs.
B
P
Amendments
to
the
2012
building
code
therefore
be
resolved.
The
mayor
on
behalf
of
council,
write
a
letter
to
the
municipal
to
the
minister
of
Municipal
Affairs
and
Housing,
conveying
the
city
of
Ottawa
support
for
the
province's
proposed
Green
Building
Code
to
include
requirements
to
mitigate
against
increased
wind
uplift
loads
on
roofs
in
order
to
better
create
more
wind,
resilient
communities.
P
So
a
little
bit
of
a
tiny
bit
of
context
for
this
right
now,
most
most
suburban
houses
with
Gable
roofs
are
fast
and
using
Nails
Only,
and
we
know
that
in
most
wind
events,
a
lot
of
the
wind
kind
of
pushes
these
roofs
up.
In
fact,
one
of
the
tornadoes
in
barhaven
at
some
point
over
the
summer
blew
a
roof
over
the
train
tracks,
like
one
house,
actually
lost
its
entire
roof
and
it
landed
in
somebody's
backyard.
P
So
the
these
straps
were
made
mandatory
in
Florida
after
the
1992,
Hurricane,
Andrew
I
believe
his
name
is
and
since
then
they've
been
required
in
Florida.
Currently,
no
Canadian
province
of
territory
acquires
them.
There
are
some
localized
requirements
in
Canada,
but
we
feel
that
these
are
an
inexpensive
way
to
help
people
prevent
the
loss
of
well
their
roof,
the
roof
over
their
head
literally.
P
B
O
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
councilor,
Hill
and
I
have
spoke
about
this
motion
when
he
was
first
thinking
about
it.
Following
recent
incidents
in
barhaven
and
as
he's
the
vice
chair
of
the
emergency
preparedness
committee
as
well,
I'll
just
say
that
in
River
Ward
there
are
still
homes
that
stand
today
that
were
hit
by
the
May
2022
director
that
has
still
not
been
repaired
that
still
have
tarp
over
their
roofs.
The
siding
is
missing.
The
damage
was
so
significant
that
they
still
are
in
that
condition.
O
So
I
don't
know
the
Green
Building
Code
in
and
out,
but
what
I
do
know
is
that
incidents
that
we've
experienced
this
decade
are
going
to
happen
more
frequently
and
we
need
our
housing
to
withstand
or
better
withstand
incidents
like
what
we've
experienced.
So
it's
it's
the
reality
that
we
live
in
and
I'd
rather
spend
a
little
bit
more
today
when
a
home
is
being
constructed
than
have
to
repair
it.
The
significant
money
that
is
required
there
so
I
do
support
this
and
again.