►
From YouTube: Planning Committee - October 10, 2019
Description
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
Listed
as
eight
is
one
three
four
and
five
on
today's
agenda
for
the
items
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
oil
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
to
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
Appeal
Tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
appeal
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
Appeal
Tribunal.
A
B
A
Changed.
That's
why
I
say
it
now.
Did
you
want
it?
It's
not
like
something
we
have
in
our
control,
it's
120
days
and
it's
90
days,
90
days
for
receipt
of
the
planning.
Oh,
this
is
an
inside
joke.
Okay,
all
right!
So
when
I
spoke
previously
and
said,
maybe
we
could
beat
everybody
I
was
coming
to
committee.
I
can
tell
you
that
we
do
have
regrets
from
the
council.
Brockington
is
at
the
airport
this
morning
on
City
business
and
councillor.
Ellie
is
not
here
and
councillor.
A
A
A
A
C
Chair,
you
know
the
staff
is
very
happy
to
be
here
with
this
report
today.
I
think
this
is
a
you
know,
an
excellent
example
of
cooperation
and
working
with
our
private
sector
around
providing
affordable
housing
and
I.
Think
this
is
a
significant
move
afford
and
step
for
Ottawa
and
I
can
see
my
housing
colleagues
in
the
room
today
and
I
think
we're
all
very
happy
about
what
we've
been
able
to
achieve
with
this
with
this
particular
file
and
we're
more
than
excited
and
the
work
that
we've
done
with
the
ward
councillor.
C
A
B
And
this
is
on
behalf
of
councillor
McKenney
and
reading
over
her
comments.
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
fully
in
agreement
with
them,
whereas
report
AC,
etc
details
the
intent
for
the
City
of
Ottawa
and
Trinity
developments
to
enter
into
a
Memorandum
of
Understanding
to
address
the
issue
of
affordable
housing
at
900,
Albert,
Street
and
whereas
Ward
counselors
can
submit
comments
to
be
included
in
reports.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
following
replaced.
B
The
text
of
comments
by
ward
councillor,
section
of
the
Memorandum
of
Understanding
between
the
City
of
Ottawa
and
801
Albert
Street
Inc
report.
Mckenna's
comments
as
follows:
I
am
pleased
to
see
this
investment
in
affordable
housing
by
Trinity
developments.
Thank
them
for
the
ongoing
deliberations
to
arrive
at
the
amount.
However,
this
MOU
is
also
evidenced
that
the
City
of
Ottawa
needs
a
strong
inclusionary
zoning
policy
to
ensure
affordable
housing
is
provided
in
all
new
developments.
B
Communities
and
the
city
should
not
be
required
to
fight
for
affordable
housing
funds
to
be
supplied
retroactively,
Lee,
Ann,
I
see
policy
would
have
achieved
more
affordable
units
within
a
site
in
close
proximity
to
Rapid
Transit.
The
community
expects
that
these
funds
will
remain
within
the
vicinity
of
900
Albert
and
will
help
to
continue
to
provide
affordable
housing
units
in
this
community
to
contribute
to
transit,
oriented
development
around
the
new
LRT
stations.
B
B
And
whereas
the
city
centralized
waiting
lists
for
social
housing
now
exceeds
12,000.
Households
and
more
efforts
need
to
be
made
to
provide
affordable
housing
options
and,
whereas,
through
the
sale
of
parcel,
1
and
parcel
to
parcel
of
adjacent
city
land,
there
is
more
opportunity
for
this
proposed
development.
B
Be
covered
by
funds
from
this
tax,
Stabilization
Reserve,
and
whereas
the
city's
disposal
of
real
property
policy
states
that
all
city-owned
real
property
is
a
corporate
asset
and
monies
received
from
the
disposal
of
any
real
property
shall
be
deposited
to
the
city.
Sale
of
surplus
land
account
unless
otherwise
directed
by
City.
Council,
therefore
be
it
resolved.
B
The
Planning
Committee
recommend
Council
approved
that
to
allocate
the
full
1.25
million
dollars
from
the
sale
of
afford
to
affordable
housing
that
one
requirement
one
point
for
the
city's
disposal
of
real
property
policy
be
waived
and
that
monies
received
from
the
sale
of
these
lands
described
above
to
801
Albert
Street,
be
directed
to
affordable
housing.
Next.
A
E
A
Was
writing
him,
so
we
are
only
looking
at
consent,
items
and
ones
we
can
get
rid
of
you
know
and
and
just
have
people
leave
and
not
stay
on
this.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions,
or
could
we
just
deal
with
this
one
now
with
the
two
amendments?
Is
everybody
good
with
that
yeah?
What
we'll
wait
a
minute
I'm,
just
asking
yeah?
Okay.
A
So
on
the
first
amendment,
which
was
to
include
the
comments
which,
of
course
the
comments
were
well
read
and
excellent
into
the
report-
is
that
carried
and
then
the
second
one
was
with
regard
to
the
transfer
of
the
money
and
the
recognition
for
the
in
this
case
trinity
and
their
contribution
and
recognizing
then
community
and
tying
the
money
to
the
community
is
that
is
that
Carrie?
So
on
the
item
as
amended
Carrie.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
A
Matthew
Miguel
'cut
is
here
from
Fulton.
Do
you
need
to
speak
if
we
don't,
if
we're
prepared
to
carry
it?
Okay.
Good.
Is
this
item
carried?
Thank
you
I
remember
for
zoning
bylaw
amendment
part
of
37:18,
Green,
Bank,
Road,
I'm,
pretty
sure
we
have
nobody
here
for
this.
One
they'd
have
to
find
it
first
Jamie
Posen
Jamie.
You
don't
need
to
speak
if
we
don't
need
to
okay.
Thank
you
is
this
I'm
carried.
Thank
you.
Zoning
bylaw
amendment
350
Terry,
Fox
Drive
is
item
number
five.
It's
in
Kanata
north.
We
have
oh.
A
We
have,
if
necessary,
Robert
Tran
from
Wesley
clover
and
Greg
winters
not
no
comments,
it's
not
necessary
for
prepared
to
carry
it.
Thank
you.
So
the
item
at
on
Terry
Fox
350,
is
carried
perfect.
Thank
you
item
number.
Six
is
the
federal
land
initiative,
715
mechanic,
road
being
block
21
of
water,
Ridge
village
opportunity
to
acquire
land
for
development
of
affordable
housing?
This
is
a
riff.
This
is
really
good
news.
We're
all
really
pleased
with
this
I.
Don't
have
anyone
I,
don't
think
to
speak
to
it.
A
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
to
waive
the
rules
to
consider
a
motion
that
counselor
leaper
I
think
it's
dazzling
for
this
moving
it
leapers
moving
on
behalf
of
counselor
flurry.
Are
there
rules
waived,
okay
and
we'll
deal
with
that
after
we
deal
with
item
number
one,
which
is
the
first
held
item
and
we'll
go
back
to
this?
This
is
floodplain
zoning
flood
plain
mapping
updates
phase
three.
We
have.
A
A
F
With
respect
to
those
areas,
madam
chair
staff
concurs
that
the
holding
symbol
is
more
than
appropriate.
There
is
no
need
to
emplace
additional
burden,
in
particular
the
the
particulars
of
this
particular
application,
and
these
particular
areas
is
that
they
have
gone
through
exhaustive,
detailed
design.
Exhaustive
technical
study
and
so
staff
are
of
the
opinion
that
there
is
no
risk
to
the
city
or
to
the
area
with
respect
to
not
in
placing
the
hold
of
the
floodplain
and
that
the
holding
zone
provides
adequate
protection
but
I'm
sure.
E
Right
thanks,
madam
Cheryl,
it's
a
technical
thing.
There's
a
beautiful
graphic
on
the
back,
therefore
be
resolved
that
map
for
and
document
to
be
replaced
with
the
attached
map,
for
which
does
not
apply
the
flood
plain
overlay
to
the
subject
land
and
be
it
FURTHER.
Resolved.
No
further
of
notice
provided
pursuant
to
section
34
17
of
the
Planning
Act.
A
A
D
D
The
creeks
in
particularly
that
I
want
to
speak
to
today
is
known
as
tributary
that
runs
through
the
middle
and
heart
of
the
development
and
as
through
our
the
CDP
process
that
was
approved
by
committee
and
council.
Here
at
City
of
Ottawa.
We
had
proposed
that
we're
going
to
relocate
that
tributary
to
through
this
subdivision
process,
and
we
have
designs
that
are
conceptually
in
in
with
the
City
of
Ottawa
now
to
show
that
realignment.
D
The
floodplain
that
is
being
shown
on
today's
mapping
in
the
report
is
reflective
of
a
technical
study
that
the
conservation
authority
did
a
number
of
years
ago
and
has
been
adopted
by
their
board
the
problem
that
we're
having
with
that
technical
study
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
the
details
of
the
technical
nature's
of
it
too
much
today.
But
the
problem
they're,
having
is
that
the
floodplain
modeling
that
was
used
by
the
Conservation
Authority
is
based
on
a
floodplain
that
allows
for
the
entire
development
of
the
area.
D
So
it's
assuming
that
all
the
houses
are
built
in
the.
However,
because
of
an
interpretation
of
the
policies,
the
conservation
authority
were
obligated
to
look
at
it
as
if
there's
no
stormwater
management,
which
is
an
anomaly
we're
not
going
to
be
ruling
that
in
this
process
we
have
an
approved
EMP,
an
approved
master
servicing
plan.
That
shows
there's
going
to
be
stormwater
management
ponds
and,
in
fact,
we've
advanced
those
detailed
designs
to
the
point
where
we're
making
final
submissions
for
a
draft
plant
approval
to
the
city
on
that
basis.
A
So
Lorraine
and
David
are
you?
Are
you
aware
of
this?
Have
you
given
it
any
consideration
in
advance,
or
is
this
something
that
you'd
like
to
take
away
and
report
back
on
before
it
goes
to?
This
item
goes
to
council
on
councillor
gaurs
liking.
That
idea
on
the
23rd
23rd
23rd
of
October.
Would
you
like
to
have
that
time
to
comment
chair.
F
I
think
it
is
advisable
that
staff
have
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
mr.
Greg
winters
and
also
with
the
MBC
as
well
too,
and
understand
exactly
what
the
implications
of
this
were
mindful
that
if
there
is
development
application
that's
coming
in
shortly,
that
might
affect
that.
Then
there
may
be
other
opportunities
for
them,
for
the
risk
to
be
mitigated
from
the
city
by
a
different
means,
and
so
we'd
certainly
like
that
that
time
to
explore
that
that.
D
This
one's
can
add
a
Research
Park,
so
this
is
Keira
pee
properties
in
the
Kannada
North
Business
Park.
They
have
the
dominate
amount
of
land
holdings
in
the
Kannada
North
Business
Park
and,
as
I
was
staring
at
the
math
for
Cu
developments.
It
caught
my
eye
that
their
properties,
three
of
their
significant
development
parcels
in
the
Kannada
North
distant
park,
designated
employment
lands
in
the
official
plan
that
we're
proposing
and
currently
marketing
for
buildings
are
upwards
of
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
square
feet.
Significant
job
creation
in
Kannada
north
are
now
in
the
floodplain.
D
So
this
slipped
through
the
process
and
again
we're
like
let's
work
with
the
CA.
We
understand
the
regulatory
mappings
in
place
give
us
the
time
to
work
through
the
process
to
resolve
that
before
adding
another
layer
of
mapping
to
this
that
we'll
have
to
correct
down
the
road.
These
sites
cannot
be
tossed
away.
They
were
approved
in
2000,
they're,
registered
blocks
and
a
plan
of
subdivision,
and
they
need
to
remain
as
development
parcels.
A
G
During
their
process,
because
I
mean
this
is
the
end
of
the
when
it
comes
to
planning
community
agriculture,
Affairs
Committee,
it
has
already
gone
through
an
extensive
process,
consultation
process
meeting
with
landowners
working
with
the
various
authorities
to
deal
with
these
before
it
actually
finally
gets
to
us.
So
it's
not
like
it's
news
to
anyone
as
to
what's
happening
by
the
time
it
gets
to
this
point.
So
did
you
work
with
the
MVC
on
this
when,
when
these
came
up
through.
D
The
chair,
we
didn't
get
the
opportunity,
these
were
an
active
development
applications.
Our
clients
are
marketing
these
sites
behind
closed
doors,
and
they
would
come
to
us
as
development
consultants
when
something
came
forward
to
look
at
the
development
opportunities
in
the
site.
So
we
didn't
have
it
on
our
active
radar
to
be
looking
at
the
mapping.
Cu
development
was
different
because
we
had
an
application
in
the
process
of
the
city
of
auto.
We
were
already
engaged.
D
The
the
assumption
is
like
I've,
looked
at
the
public
consultation
record
and
I'm
not
going
to
debate
that
that
city
staff
did
have
numerous
public
open
houses.
There
was
a
website.
There
is
notice
that
apparently
went
out,
but
being
a
large
corporation
I,
don't
know
whose
dust
this
might
have
ended
up
on
I
can't
even
presumed
as
why
they
wouldn't
have
brought
this
to
my
attention
to
say:
hey
we've
got
a
development
say
they
certainly
would
have
noticed
that
it
was
a
problem
if
it
had
been
brought
to
their
attention,
because.
G
That
place
driving
homeowners,
don't
necessarily
have
the
luxury
of
having
someone
like
yourself
come
and
speak
on
their
behalf
at
committee
like
this,
and
yet
private
homeowners
are
the
ones
who
are
largely
impacted
by
flood
plain
mapping
if
it's
manipulated
by
a
larger
group
in
a
larger
land
mass,
because,
ultimately,
it's
like
it's
like
a
bathtub.
If
you,
if
you
take
water
to
one
side,
it's
got
to
go
somewhere
else
on
the
other
side.
So
it's
you
know
you,
the
the
the
risk
here
to
everyone
else
in
that
watershed.
D
Through
the
chair,
in
both
of
these
cases,
there
has
actually
been
significant
study
for
the
flood.
Plain
mapping
in
this
case
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
topography
for
all.
We
know
at
this
point
in
time.
The
mapping
may
be
suggesting
that
there
might
be
one
inch
of
water
on
the
krp
sites.
For
instance
the
can
add
a
North
instance
for
Cu
developments.
It's
even
better.
D
We've
done
our
own
modeling,
we're
working
with
jf
Sabra
and
we're
working
with
de
sel
engineering,
who
are
doing
the
applications
for
Vale
craft
and
for
Mentos
across
the
street.
So
we
have
full
confidence
that
the
small
amount
of
area
between
our
sites
and
leading
to
the
Ottawa
River
are
not
going
to
be
impacted
by
what
we're
proposing
today.
It's
it's
just
a
technical
issue
that
we
just
have
to
work
our
way
through
to
resolve.
A
E
I
guess
it's
part
comment
and
maybe
staff
can
clarify
so
I
don't
want
to
share
incorrect
information.
I
think
we
should
be
very,
very
careful
as
a
committee
as
an
account
sole
to
start
playing
around
with
floodplain
mappings
and
technical
reports.
Around
floodplains,
I
think
we're
putting
ourselves
and
residents
and
landowners
at
significant
risk
if
we
start
changing
things.
This
is
an
extensive
study.
There
have
been
many
steps
in
the
process
that
Mississippi
Valley,
Conservation
Authority
and
their
experts
have
gone
through.
E
We
also
sat
at
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
last
week
and
heard
from
several
landowners
with
similar
concerns
and
what
we
told
them
was
there's
a
process.
If
you
have
a
concern
about
the
flood
plain
mapping,
there's
an
appeal
process,
there's
a
process
where
you
can
hire
your
own
engineer
and
I
think
we
should
be
applying
the
same
criteria
here,
but
maybe
staff
could
just
very
quickly
at
this
point.
If
any
landowner,
a
corporation
or
resident
has
a
concern
about
the
accuracy
of
the
flood
plain
Maps.
What
is
the
process
for
them
to
raise
that?
F
But
I'm
chair,
the
flood
plain
mapping,
is
from
the
conservation
authorities
in
this
case.
Here.
The
flood
plain
mapping
is
board
approved
by
the
conservation
authority,
so
you're
right,
it
has
gone
through
a
rigorous
technical
process.
With
respect
to
amendment
of
the
floodplain,
it
does
need
to
go
through
the
conservation
authorities
as
well
in
order
for
them
to
review
and
assess
what
the
implications
of
that
would
be
you're,
indeed
very
correct.
F
For
example,
the
motion
that
you
have
before
you
today
with
respect
to
the
the
Arcadia
lands
at
feed
mill
creek
that
has
gone
through
exhaustive
technical
studies,
and
so
staff
can
be
comfortable
in
that
case
by
saying
that
the
floodplain
regulatory
layer
in
zoning
is
not
necessarily
needed
because
we
have
other
mechanisms
in
place
that
can
support
that
where
an
application
is
earlier
in
the
process.
Again,
those
protections
don't
exist.
That
level
of
detail
doesn't
necessarily
exist.
F
There
is
a
process
by
which,
through
a
development,
application
going
through,
can
apply
for
a
lifting
of
that
floodplain
amendment
as
part
of
that
development,
application
and
again
staff
would
look
at
that
and
decide
whether
or
not
that
needs
to
be
lifted.
It
could
be
lifted
entirely
and
would
be
supportable
or
whether
there
might
need
to
be
additional
holds
put
in
place
to
ensure
that
there
is
still
a
restriction
of
development
until
the
final
permits
have
been
obtained.
So
in
this
case
here,
what
mr.
F
winters
has
pointed
out
is
there
are
a
number
of
detailed
technical
studies
that
are
incoming
the
status
of
which
staff
at
the
table
here
do
not
know
so
we'd
like
to
have
an
opportunity
to
have
the
conversation
with
mr.
winters
and
also
with
the
conservation
authority
and
understand
what
the
level
of
detail
is,
that
they
that
they're
at
and
then
to
be
able
to
come
back
to
Council,
with
a
recommendation
on
whether
to
continue
with
the
emplacement
of
the
zoning
or
to
potentially
go
by
a
different
mechanism.
A
So
we
have
the
technical
amendments,
so
just
a
minute,
councillor,
Minard,
councillor,
Minard
councilman,
are
just
want
to.
Let
me
finish
with
them
for
a
minute:
okay,
thanks!
So
that's
clear
direction
that
you
have
between
now
and
and
council
meeting.
That
will
expect
to
get
some
comments
back
from
you.
Some
pretty
detailed
comments.
A
D
G
F
E
A
Okay,
so
on
the
technical
amendment,
I
was
caring
and
on
the
report,
as
amended
and
expecting
the
information
to
follow
before
Council
Carrie.
Thank
you
thanks
for
coming
out.
Okay,
so
the
only
one
we
have
left
I
think
is
the
motion
that
was
waived
on
that
councillor.
Leaper
is
going
to
succinctly
put
before
us
on
behalf
of
our
friend
and
colleague,
councillor
Larry,.
A
B
F
But
AM
chair
I
would
say
that
staff
have
some
reservations
concerning
it.
Staff
are
mindful
that
we
are
currently
engaged
in
the
r4
technical
analysis
as
part
of
the
are
for
phase
2,
where
we
are
assessing
the
ability
to
develop
multi-unit
buildings,
low-rise
apartments
within
the
r4
zone.
As
part
of
that
technical
analysis,
we
are
looking
at
all
of
the
various
mechanisms
that
go
into
a
low-rise
apartment
from
the
garbage
and
waste
management
area
to
the
amenity
area,
building
entrances
all
of
those
various
structural
features.
F
We
certainly
understand
what
the
implications
of
removing
a
certain
area
from
inside
the
volume
of
a
building
in
terms
of
it
needing
to
be
compensated
elsewhere,
either
through
changes
in
the
performance
of
that
building,
either
through
quality
or
envelope
size
or
intentionally
having
those
costs
passed
down
to
an
end
user
or
an
end.
Buyer,
so
certainly
staff
for
mindful
that
there
are
implications
with
respect
to
the
imposition
of
an
additional
constraint
on
multi-unit
buildings.
F
H
So
I
want
staff
to
do
the
analysis
and
come
back
with
the
are
for
review
to
look
at
that
specific
group.
This
bottle
only
applies
to
Sandy
Hill
and
it's
already
in
place
for
the
majority
of
the
dwellings,
but
we've
missed
any
dwelling,
that's
under
400
square
meters.
So
that's
what
they'll
be
looking
at
and
that's
what
we'll
be
discussing
as
part
of
our
four
I
just
want
to
give
a
direction,
and
this
again
is
specific
to
San
Yael
and
we've
already
given
a
direction
relating
to
to
garbage
being
internal.
A
F
Well,
madam
chair
I,
think
the
the
challenge
that
we
have
is
with
an
indoor
garbage
storage
areas.
They
all
need
to
be
of
a
certain
size
in
order
to
be
able
to
move
the
bins
back
and
forth
and
to
be
able
to
have
access
so
which
means
that
these
rooms
are
the
equivalent
of
removing
about
a
bedroom
in
size
in
terms
of
that
spatial
area.
That
is
something
that,
on
a
larger
building,
is
more
easily
able
to
be
accommodated
on
a
building
that
is
less
than
400
square
meters
in
size.
F
That
becomes
a
more
significant
portion
of
that
buildings.
Floor
area,
and
so
the
question
in
staff's
mind
is
is
what
is
the
value
with
respect
to
the
the
the
benefits
and
the
the
pros
and
cons
of
doing
that?
And
again?
What
are
the
unintended
consequences
of
imposing
that
type
of
imposition
on
that
internal
volume?.
B
So
I
don't
want
to
go
down
the
path
of
pre
debating
whether
or
not
requiring
smaller
buildings
to
manage
their
garbage
internally
is
or
is
not
a
good
idea,
I'm,
not
sure
that
if
it
came
forward
as
a
proposed
zoning
amendment
that
even
I
would
support
it.
We
have
an
affordable
housing
crisis
and
adding
one
more
unit
into
something
that
might
otherwise
be
a
five-unit
building
is,
is
potentially
a
good
thing,
but
I
don't
want
to
pre
debate
today.
B
F
The
that
is
something
that
we
are
actually
already
doing
within
the
are
for
phase
two.
We
understand
what
the
implications
of
requiring
indoor
garbage
storage
area
are
recall
that,
within
the
remainder
of
the
city,
what
we
passed
in
our
for
phase
one
was
the
requirement
for
a
garbage
storage
area
to
be
provided.
F
383
and
the
motion
that
was
passed
as
part
of
the
or
for
phase
1
restricted,
garbage
storage
area
entirely
within
the
main
building,
so
that
option
to
to
go
for
a
different
methodology
of
handling
the
same
problem
is
not
there
within
Sandy
Hill,
and
so
the
question
again
is
is
what
is
the
consequence
of
that?
And
what
are
the
implications
of
that
with
respect
to
both
the
ability
for
the
building
envelope
to
be
viable,
but
also
for
where
those
costs
are
and
be
directed,
because
those
costs
will
be
borne
by
somebody.
E
F
F
The
direction
to
staff
is
to
assess
the
mechanisms.
There
are
different
mechanisms
by
which
we
could
do
this.
Certainly
if
the
requirement
and
the
direction
is
to
require
garbage
store
should
be
inside
the
building,
there
are
different
mechanisms
by
which
that
can
occur.
There
is
the
upcoming
review
with
the
waste
management
bylaw
that
is
coming
up.
Currently,
that
applies
to
buildings
that
are
six
units
and
over.
That
is
one
mechanism
by
which
this
could
be
done.
Another
mechanism
could
be
to
require
the
garbage
storage
inside
the
main
building.
F
E
And
sorry,
madam
chair,
I,
I,
think
that's
the
point,
though
right.
So
all
this
is
doing
is
saying
what
are
the
mechanisms
and
how
would
we
do
it?
Give
us
a
report
like
all
we're
asking
her.
All
councilor
is
asking
for
us
to
be
armed
with
information
so
that
we
can
take
an
informed
decision
out
of
future
data
as
to
whether
we
think
it's
a
good
idea,
one
into
how
you
would
actually
do
it
so
I'm,
just
I'm
trying
to
understand
what
the
problem
in
that
is.
I
guess
I.
A
Think
their
pin
is
politically
honest
as
possible,
probably
for
me
I
think
that
there
being
I
mean
their
staff
there
being
as
politically
honest
to
saying.
I
know
that
there's
other
people
that
are
you
know,
do
the
work
in
this
area
in
that
and
our
that
our
staff,
but
they're,
not
you,
know,
they're
they
they
know
they
can
do
the
work
they're
going
to
come
back
with
what
you're
hearing
mr.wai
say:
it's
not
going
to
change
likely
because
that's
he's
given
consideration
to
it.
You
brought
up
the
the
waste
management
plan.
G
During
all
this
master
plan,
it's
gonna
look
at
it's
going
to
look
at
buildings.
You
don't
to
look
at
how
we
manage
how
we
handle
our
waste
and
how
we
process
waste
and
how
we
do
really
everything
I
mean
the
whole
point
of
this
always
master
plan
is
to
look
at
every
single
aspect
of
waste
in
this
city.
So,
if
that,
if
that
includes,
you
know,
containers
and
now
we're
looking
at
storing
waste
on
properties,
and
we
can
certainly
look
at
that
and
that
in
that
process,.
H
To
clarify,
certainly
looking
forward
to
both
the
planning
elements
and
the
practical
pickup
of
waste
receptacles
I
want
you
to
know.
I
sit
on
CPS,
that's
bylaw
services
and
I
see
the
issues
of
when
we
don't
design
things
accordingly.
How
costly
it
is
for
bylaw
to
be
there
every
week,
giving
fines
speaking
to
owners
so
I'm
trying
to
correct
something
in
the
front
end.
It's
we've
done
partly,
and
hopefully
we
can
I
can
get
your
support
to
give
a
direction
for
that.
We
consider
that
review.
E
H
F
The
initial
waste
management
area
that
was
determined
in
the
r4
phase,
one
was
as
a
direct
reaction
to
the
issue
of
bunk
houses.
Those
were
the
excessively
large
excessive
bedrooms
buildings
that
were
occurring
within
the
inner
city
area,
particularly
in
Sand
Hill,
but
also
occurring
as
well
to
within
center
town
and
the
Glebe
and
Heron
Park,
and
some
as
well
to
in
Hintonburg
as
well,
and
so
when
staff
crafted
the
exception
to
say
that
this
would
apply
to
buildings
of
400
square
meters
and
more.
F
It
is
because
staff
saw
that
there
was
a
gap
that
was
occurring
between
small
buildings
and
buildings
that
were
less
than
six
meters
that
were
not
covered
by
the
waste
management
bylaw,
and
so
we
wanted
to
ensure
that
there
was
in
fact
to
dedicate
a
garbage
storage
area
to
accommodate
those
large
buildings.
It
was
not
staffs
intention
that
this
would
apply
to
all
buildings
that
this
would
apply
to
buildings
that
are
of
a
smaller
footprint
that
are
more
compatible
and
more
contextual
at
the
neighborhood.
F
That
being
said,
of
course,
if
staff
are
directed
to
look
at
the
implications
of
adding
an
indoor
garbage
storage
area
within
that
staff
would
do
so.
We
are
mindful,
however,
though,
that
that
would
require
more
detailed,
modeling
and
analysis
of
what
that
implications
would
be
on
the
floor
print,
but
that
is
something
that
stuff
could
incorporate.
A
Okay,
anybody
else
have
anything
to
say
so
on
the
motion
for
direction
to
consider
that
as
part
of
the
r4
is
that
carried
okay,
it
was
good
to
have
the
discussion
and
we'll
see
what
you
come
back
with.
Thank
you
thanks,
counselor
flurry,
great
guess
what
we
are
I
think
yeah
and
you
noticed
any
notices
of
motion.
No
any
enquiries,
I,
don't
think
there's
any
other
business.
Okay,
so
we'll
see
you
again
the
day
after
Council
October
24th.