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From YouTube: Planning Committee - November 14, 2019
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A
A
You'll
have
everyone's
attention.
Please
thank
you
for
the
items
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
all
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
Appeal
Tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
Appeal
Tribunal.
A
If
counsel
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
zoning
in
120
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment,
a
comment
sheet
is
available
at
the
door
which
I
see
some
of
you
are
taking
advantage
of
for
anyone
wishing
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments.
If
anybody
has
on
the
committee,
has
any
motions
they'd
like
to
bring
forward
on
any
of
the
items
in
advance,
that
would
be
great
so
that
we
have
a
chance
to
review
it,
as
does
the
delegations
and
the
applicant.
B
A
Item
number
one
is
a
deferred
item
from
the
last
meeting
and
we're
going
to
just
hang
on
to
it
not
have
it
be
first
they're
working
in
the
back
rooms
of
Calcutta
trying
to
come
up
with
a
negotiated
deal
so
we'll
just
hang
on
to
that
one
and
there's
also
a
technical
amendment
on
that
one
on
the
second
one
is
the
stormwater
management
guidelines
for
the
Pine
Crest
Creek
West
burrow
area.
Vice-Chair
tyranny
has
a
referral
motion.
A
Able
to
consult
with
the
public
on
this
because
there's
certainly
a
lot
of
concern
for
ecological
reasons,
on
that
Pine,
Crest
Creek,
absolutely,
and
that's
why
we
are
doubling
it
take
that
extra
time.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
today,
so
on
the
deferral
of
the
stormwater
management
guidelines
for
the
Pine
Crest
Creek
West
burrow
area
carry
and
that's
not,
and
often
with
the
deferral
it's
like
to
the
next
meeting,
but
this
is
actually
to
q1
2020.
A
The
next
item
is
the
Official
Plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
for
89
Richmond
Road.
We
don't
have
any
speakers
doing
now.
We
have
speakers
where
is
it
okay,
we're
holding
that
we
have
a
speaker
and
and
the
applicant?
The
next
item
is
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
and
plan
of
subdivision
for
21
Withrow
Avenue.
We
have
seven
or
more
speakers
on
that.
So
we'll
pull
that
item.
A
D
You,
madam
chair,
whereas
report
AS,
ACS
2009
or
2019
PI
PS
0,
0,
7,
8
zoning
bylaw
amendment
wente,
159,
mayor
Blair,
Road
speaks
to
permit
employment
uses
and
recreational
and
athletic
facilities
and/or
as
2159
mayor
blow
is
within
the
East
urban
community
phase.
3
community
design
plans,
study
area
and
whereas
the
community
design
plan
has
not
yet
been
approved
by
council,
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
the
report
amend
as
follows.
D
The
delay
in
subject
of
the
report
be
rezone
from
IG
7
H
21
to
IG
7
x,
h,
21,
h
that
the
following
provisions
be
added
to
item
2
c
of
the
document
details
of
recommended
zoning.
The
h
symbol
will
not
be
removed
until
such
time
as
it
can
be
demonstrated
that
the
lands
be
serviced
for
all
municipal
servicing,
including
roads,
water
and
sanitary
and
storm
sewers,
and
to
a
community
design
plan
for
the
mixed-use
center
is
approved.
D
A
Okay,
you
support
it.
Are
you
both
aware
of
that?
You
are
so.
If
we're
prepared
to
carry
that
and
the
item,
do
you
still
need
to
speak?
Okay,
I
have
to
ask
you,
even
though
it
says
that
you
said
that
it's
just
a
lot.
So,
on
the
amendment
carry
and
on
the
on
the
item
on
the
report,
2159
mayor,
blue
Road,
as
amended,
carry
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
coming
all
right.
Next
up
we
have
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
470,
Gloucester,
Street
and
89
and
91
Nepean
Street.
A
We
have
two
people
representing
the
the
applicant
and
that's
all
so
Ellen
Potts
and
Vincent
Denham
a
are
you,
my
cell
son
baby,
okay,
how's
that
baby
I
say:
hey,
that's
personal
okay.
So
if,
if
we're
prepared
to
I,
wasn't
looking
for
that
kind
of
just
a
question,
if
we're
prepared
to
carry
this,
do
you
still
need
to
speak?
Okay?
Perfect?
So
is
this
item
carry?
Thank
you.
Next
item
is
housing
mix
and
new
residential
communities
yep.
A
D
Since
its
technical,
I'll,
just
read,
therefore
be
resolved
that
the
following
changes
be
made
to
the
staff
report,
one
that
the
Planning
Committee
amended.
The
staff
report
item
in
regards
to
175
a
Main
Street
as
follows:
a
by
replacing
the
text
for
a
minimum
of
50%
with
the
text
for
a
minimum
of
65
percent
and
B
by
replacing
the
text
abutting
lot
line
with
the
text
facing
the
front
lawn
line
and
be
it
FURTHER
RESOLVED
that
no
further
notice
be
provided
pursuant
to
subsection
34:17
of
the
Planning
Act.
A
Okay,
does
anyone
have
any
questions
about
that?
This
is
the
Greystone
enrolled,
auto
ease,
okay,
so
on
the
technical
amendment,
is
it
caring
and
on
the
Omnibus
amendments
as
amended
carried
okay,
then
we
have
a
motion
to
add
an
additional
item
to
the
agenda
and
vice-chair
tyranny.
This
is
at
473,
Albert,
Street,
yeah
again.
D
A
In
the
two
years,
zoning
period,
which
is
why
we
are
being
asked
to
do
it
yep
Kathryn
knows
everybody
knows
I
shouldn't
say
that
Katherine
knows
can't
a
councillor.
Mckenney
knows
yes,
we
should
never
assume.
Thank
you
for
asking
okay.
So
now
it's
on
the
agenda
is
the
item.
Well,
let's
just
deal
with
it.
Is
it
Carrie
Carrie
all
right
good,
now
we'll
go
back
to
the
beginning
and
I
saw
councilor
egg
lie
where?
Where
did
you
go?
A
No,
but
you
could
you
could
state
what
questions
you
have
without
asking
them.
I
mean
if
you
have
concerns
I
would
come
on
forward.
There's
a
senior
there
right
beside
the
I.
Don't
know
why
we
have
the
extra
mic.
Maybe
the
real
mics
aren't
working
yeah
see
what
the
red
light
is
sit
down.
Yeah,
yeah,
you're
gonna
have
five
minutes
and
the
way
this
works
is
you're
here
you
came
out
today
came
down
to
this
place
and
you
have
some
concerns
about
this
application.
So
that's
we're
not
going
to
answer
your
questions.
F
So
I
have
a
little
bit
of
knowledge
about
what
is
going
to
transpire
specifically
about
that
building.
It's
going
to
be
a
six
story,
condo
with
two
floors
of
commercial
on
the
bottom.
My
concerns
are
traffic,
we're
going
to
have
I'm
a
resident
in
the
area,
and
we
are
already
going
to
have
a
huge
condo
building
being
built
at
the
corner
of
Wellington
and
Island
Park,
which
is
going
to
dump
a
lot
of
traffic
on
to
both
Wellington
and
island
park.
F
This
particular
building,
although
it's
small,
my
understanding
is
that
there
is
going
to
be
an
indoor
style,
Nordic
style,
spa
in
the
bottom
of
this
particular
building.
If
that
is
the
case,
it's
going
to
become
a
most
like
a
tourist
attraction.
People
are
going
to
be
coming
from
all
over
to
enjoy
this.
F
Yes,
of
course,
there's
transit,
but
I
think
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
issues
with
parking,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
issues
with
traffic
and
there's
also
going
to
be
a
lot
of
issues
with,
let's
say
garbage,
I'm,
not
sure
how
people
are
going
to
be
handling
that
particular
problem.
If
it
is
going
to
be
an
indoor,
Scandinavian
style,
spa,
it's
going
to
produce
a
lot
of
garbage.
It's
gonna
produce
a
lot
of
steam
inside
boilers.
I,
don't
know
how
they're
dealing
with
that.
F
If
this
building
is
built,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
issues
with
right
for
the
people
on
the
other
side
of
89
Richmond,
the
windows
could
be
blocked
on
that
side,
and
so
I
did
read
a
little
bit
about
setbacks
and
there
is
a
suggestion
of
doing
a
four
story
as
opposed
to
six
story.
There's
putting
the
Zen
garden
in
the
front
which
I
think
with
we
be
a
better
idea
just
to
maybe
avoid
bad
Canyon
style
that
we're
getting
there
and
then
I
guess
you
know.
F
A
So
I'm
we
have
staff
here
that
have
been
working
on
this
project
with
the
applicant
with
the
community
yep,
so
you've
raised.
Some
I
think
some
typical
concerns
that
we
hear
all
the
time.
You've
added
some
new
ones,
however,
and
I'm
going
to
ask
staff
to
respond
to
those
questions.
Okay,
why
they
made
the
decision
they
did
based
on
understanding
your
concerns.
Thank.
F
A
F
A
A
G
G
There
won't
be
a
lot
of
people
in
this
bar
at
any
given
time
so
today,
Planning
Committee,
I'm,
going
to
guess
will
recommend
to
council
that
this
be
approved,
we'll
have
a
week
and
a
half
or
so
until
Council
approves
it
and
then
there'll
be
a
site
plan
process
where
I'll
again
be
going
out
to
the
public
for
a
bit
of
a
consultation
on
that
one.
But
if
you
give
my
office
a
call,
I'm
happy
to
work
through
some
of
these
questions.
Some
of
these
questions
just.
F
G
Doesn't
have
parking
either
I
know
it's
it's
an
interesting
neighborhood
where
businesses
are
choosing
to
move,
take
advantage
of
foot
traffic,
take
advantage
of
the
vibe
on
the
street
and
there
they're
moving
in,
despite
knowing
very
well
that
parking
on
the
street
is
extremely
challenged
so,
but
more
than
happy
to
continue
working
with
you
through
the
next
week
and
a
half
before
council,
and
then
once
we
move
into
site
plan
where
some
of
the
specific
details
that
you've
raised
will
be
dealt
with
as
well.
Okay,
thank
you.
F
H
I
G
Quickly
to
two
members
of
the
committee,
I
am
really
pleased
actually
to
see
something
coming
in
for
Richmond
Road
in
my
ward
that
essentially
meets
the
spirit
and
word
of
the
secondary
plan.
A
six
story.
Building
on
Richmond
Road
is
it's
what's
contemplated
for
the
neighborhood
and
I'm
glad
to
see
something
come
in
and
ask
for
a
six
story
building.
This
is
not
radical
rezoning.
So
thanks
to
the
owners
for
for
not
grasping.
A
There
you
go
so
we
don't
have
any
any
amendments
or
anything
on
this
one.
So
on
the
item:
89
Richmond,
Road,
Official,
Plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment
says
it
carried.
Thank
you,
okay.
So
the
next
one
is
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
and
planners
subdivision
421
with
row
in
City
View,
my
first
home
my
parents
ever
owned.
I
was
six
months
old.
J
A
A
J
J
Everyone
comes
with
a
sacrifice.
Members
of
this
committee
have
been
asked
to
sacrifice
a
unique
history:
heritage
property
filled
with
mature
trees.
That
Ottawa
should
be
proud
of
that
counts
towards
first-class
green
space
that
should
be
part
of
city
building
and
that
would
inevitably
attract
a
better,
more
appropriate
plan.
J
The
prize
for
making
this
sacrifice
is
a
small
luxury
development,
locking
mature
trees
composed
of
large
houses,
with
huge
driveways
on
tiny
Lots,
not
very
exciting
for
city
building,
I
would
say
after
hearing
many
of
today's
presentations,
I
sympathize
with
the
committee,
who
may
be
thinking
I,
really
don't
want
to
destroy
a
hundred
mature
trees
in
a
city
that
wants
more
trees.
I,
really
don't
want
to
sacrifice
this
opportunity
for
to
be
true
for
Ottawa
to
be
proud
of
a
small
remaining
part
of
its
real
and
cultural
heritage.
J
I,
don't
want
to
contradict
the
fabric
of
a
unique
and
liveable
community
of
city
view.
I,
don't
want
to
sacrifice
the
principles
of
the
urban
parkland
strategy
and
we
recognize
that
the
committee
has
not
asked
been
asked
to
weigh
two
options.
The
committee
is
simply
asked
to
decide
if
this
current
plan
is
appropriate
for
this
current
location,
and
you
do
have
the
option
to
say
no
so
you're
going
to
hear
a
lot
about
City
View
today,
but
I'm
just
going
to
concentrate
on
the
I.
J
What
we
feel
are
the
reasons
that
you
can
say
no
to
this
development.
First
of
all,
lot
size
and
built
coverage.
This
is
just
a
quick
picture
from
Google
Street
view
of
a
typical
street
in
our
neighborhood
you'll
recognize
this
miss
harder
from
your
days
in
this
neighborhood.
It's
a
very
unique
neighborhood.
It
looks
nice
people
like
it
the
way
it
is,
and
it's
important
for
Ottawa
to
preserve
neighborhoods
like
this.
J
This
is
typical
again
of
what's
happening
in
the
neighborhood.
The
50-foot
Lots
that
you
see
here
are
a
variance
that's
being
approved
on
one
on
what
should
be
sixty
five
foot
Lots
according
to
the
bylaw.
This
is
what
50-foot
Lots
do.
The
current
development
is
proposing.
40
foot
Lots
on
most
of
the
properties,
City
View
is
zoned
for
65
foot
Lots
approving
forty
foot
Lots
goes
far
beyond
the
50
foot,
Lots
that
are
already
destructive
of
our
neighborhood
fabric.
J
The
second
point
I
want
to
make
city
view,
is
already
in
a
parkland
deficit.
Cash
and
a
leave
should
have
been
collected
on
more
than
a
hundred
infill
homes
in
our
community.
That
should
have
gone
a
long
way
towards
purchasing
this
property.
There's
been
a
loophole
in
cash
in
lieu
which
could
be
talked
about,
but
the
long
and
short
of
it
is
that
these
thirteen
new
homes
with
no
green
space
of
their
own
will
draw
on
a
neighborhood
that
is
already
in
parkland
deficit.
J
Furthermore,
in
cruel
irony,
this
property
has
been
given
an
artificially
inflated
value
beyond
what
the
cash
in
lieu
could
possibly
support
by
entertaining
a
development
that
goes
far
beyond
the
zoning
density.
Do
you
see
how
this
is
tragically
circular
and
ironic?
We
think
a
lawyer
ought
to
look
at
this
one.
The
third
reason
I
give
you
is
that
this
property
surrounds
a
heritage
home
you'll
hear
a
lot
about
that.
If
this
property
must
be
developed,
it
should
reflect
the
character
of
this
home.
J
It
should
include
open
space,
mature
trees
that
are
hallmarks
of
the
it
States
heritage,
and
the
public
should
be
able
to
see
the
home
and
reflect
on
its
place
in
Ottawa's
history.
This
plan
development
achieves
nothing.
None
of
that.
That
is
no
effort,
no
real
effort
to
design
with
nature
or
with
heritage,
and
the
could
have
been
just
by
respecting
the
bylaw
density
in
the
neighborhood.
J
Instead,
the
development
flaunts
a
request
to
push
the
development
density
far
beyond
what
it
is
owned
for
so
I
leave
you
with
these
three
reasons,
you're
going
to
hear
more
about
these
reasons,
you're
going
to
hear
more
about
the
heritage
from
other
speakers.
Please
keep
what
I
think
these
three
reasons
to
say
no
to
this
development
in
mind
as
we
go
through
today,
and
all
of
these
other
reasons
that
may
strike
your
passion.
You
can
use
these
three
reasons
to
say
no
and
go
home
with
a
clear
conscience.
J
A
J
A
K
K
So
I'm
going
to
try
to
be
as
experienced
as
possible,
as
I
said
the
title.
My
statement
is:
it's
all
Komori
the
traffic
here
that
Post
CDs
have
all
been
strongly
influenced
by
the
stark
candle
Canary
residents,
as
well
as
the
lanes
surrounding
the
structure.
The
surrounding
mature
trees,
including
some
baby
trees,
stretched
along
with
roll
avenue
itself,
and
if
you
recall,
from
the
location,
it's
bounded
by
the
Queen
yourself
on
your
throat
and
sometimes
place
and
in
between,
is
toll.
K
K
The
underlying
branches-
and
you
also
see
the
effects
amateur
double
chant,
no
better
nut
tree
that
has
been
stumped
and
you
can
see
the
after
effects
of
that
stomping.
This
picture
speaks
for
itself.
You
also
see
the
united
carriage
home,
which
was
originally
associated
with
21
or
thrilled,
and
then
to
the
immediate
rest
of
the
21
with
your
property.
The
photographs
also
show
you
should
be
bit
just
metres
for
the
rest,
along
21,
whistle
and
again,
the
previous
speaker
showed
some
example,
which
is
basically
a
roll
of
structure
and
so
would
meet
you
yep.
K
K
A
K
A
A
H
More
tea,
madam
chair
members
of
the
planning
committee,
my
name
is
Joan
Clark
and
I'm,
president
of
both
City
View
Community
Association,
and
the
Komori
Heritage
Society
city
view.
Community
has
been
working
for
years
to
try
to
save
this
house
and
property
at
21
with
row.
Our
community
was
part
of
a
group
who
were
instrumental
in
having
the
house
declared
heritage
city
view
felt
that
the
land
at
21
with
row
was
an
important
part
of
this
landmark
in
our
community.
It
reflected
the
history
of
the
early
settlers
who
arrived
in
Nepean.
H
H
H
People
gave
us
money
and
signed
pledges
to
help
out
with
more
money
and
help
it
and
help
it
within
coin
contributions
to
restoring
and
maintaining
the
way
at
the
house
and
the
property
Komori
Heritage
Society,
formed
and
incorporated
in
March
2019
is
the
result
of
formalizing
the
importance
of
saving
this
history.
The
goal
our
goals
are
to
promote
Canadian
artists
in
all
fields
of
art
and
culture,
to
promote
equal
opportunities
for
artists,
to
promote
outdoor
garden
sports,
to
create
a
recreation
cultural
center.
H
To
be
aware
that
the
property
is
situated
on
unseeded
Algonquin
territory,
to
facilitate
and
support
the
teaching
of
Canadian
arts,
to
facilitate
the
establishment
and
upkeep
of
heritage
gardens
and
to
provide
opportunities
to
celebrate
the
past
and
kilmoray
special
place
in
the
history
of
city
view.
That's
what
the
future
should
be
421
with
roll.
Why
are
we
here
to
object
strenuously
to
the
acceptance
of
this
proposed
subdivision
and
rezoning
to
represent
the
wish
of
the
people,
the
taxpayer,
to
oppose
a
rezoning
that
seems
to
be
created
just
for
this
subdivision?
H
Why
do
we
have
bylaws
and
we're
here
to
communicate
to
you
the
Planning
Committee,
that
this
proposal
is
the
wrong
use
of
this
precious
land?
Just
a
few
days
ago,
we
celebrated
Remembrance
Day.
This
is
a
day
to
remember
the
sacrifices
that
these
men
and
women
endured
for
the
generations
to
come.
This
was
not
about
money,
it
wasn't
about
them.
It
was
about
the
state
of
our
country
for
those
who
follow.
After
us,
our
children
and
our
children's
children,
that
is
our
responsibility,
protect.
What
is
precious
and
celebrated?
Do
not
waste
it
on
short-term
gains.
H
How
can
we
stop
this
subdivision
from
happening?
It
all
reminds
me
of
a
Joni
Mitchell
song.
They
pay
paradise
to
put
in
a
parking
lot.
How
can
you,
the
planning
committee,
who
represents
the
good
decisions
for
our
city,
helped
to
make
this
right
by
listening
to
the
people?
How
can
the
planning
committee
justify
the
enormous
time
spent
on
making
a
development
acceptable
instead
of
helping
our
community
create
a
hub
where
people
would
gather?
H
In
fact,
it
was
a
city
employee
from
the
planning
department
who
appeared
as
an
expert
witness
for
this
development
at
an
ill
Pat
hearing,
no
one
from
the
city
was
there
to
support
us
and
Hort
the
decision
made
by
the
committee
of
adjustment.
We
were
on
our
own
once
again
with
the
city
Buick
Community,
Association,
Camry,
Heritage
Society
have
work
tires
tirelessly
to
this
landmark.
Most
of
our
time
has
been
preparing
and
researching
our
opposition.
H
A
subdivision
that
will
set
a
precedent
in
our
community
developers
will
use
this
case
to
take
down
more
trees
and
crowd
in
more
houses.
What
do
we
want?
We
want
to
celebrate
our
history.
We
want
to
promote
the
arts,
we
want
to
share
the
indigenous
culture
with
those
who
don't
understand.
We
want
a
center
a
hub
for
people
to
gather
our
area
has
a
large
population
of
seniors.
When
we
talk
about
a
park,
we
visualize
swings
and
monkey
bars.
What
about
our
seniors?
What
about
a
nature
park,
or
do
we
treat
seniors
the
same
way?
H
A
Oops
is
a
little
bit
past,
but
thank
you
again.
We
did
have
your
submission,
that's
what
you
know
for
everybody.
That's
here,
I
know
that
a
lot
of
people
this
be
the
one
and
only
time
you
ever
come
here,
but
it's
really
helpful
when
we
have
the
opportunity
to
read
it.
Do
you
have
a
question?
Councillor
gala
has
a
question:
I
want.
L
To
first
ask:
it:
was
you
who
wrote
the
article
in
the
citizen
earlier
this
week?
Yes,
the
op-ed
okay!
Thank
you
for
that.
It
was
good
overview.
I've
been
following
this
one
for
a
few
years
through
heritage,
Ottawa's
efforts
to
ensure
heritage,
designation
but
I've.
Just
the
the
idea
of
anyone
acquiring
the
property.
I
know
you're
doing
fundraising,
but
what's
the
idea
of
what
kind
of
value
does
this
land
have?
What
is
the
owner?
What
would
the
owner
sell
it
for
how
much
would
need
to
be
raised
in
order
to
acquire
the
property.
H
Did
that
was
our
counselors
advice
there?
There
is
some
options
to
us
like
we
did
do
a
levy
and
we
surveyed
half
of
our
homes,
and
we
had
a
70%
agreement
to
pay
a
$60
every
levy
for
10
years,
so
that
was
successful
and
then
it
was
stopped.
There
were
a
couple
of
other
deals,
but
the
the
cash
in
lieu
of
a
central
cash
in
lieu,
because
this
is
bigger,
the
city
view
award
eight.
H
It
is
a
City
of
Ottawa
Park
cultural
center,
it
so
cash
and
moved
in
my
mind
could
be
used
to
help
us
out,
and
then
there
have
been
donors.
Everybody
who
wants
to
donate
money
is
kind
of
waiting
for
this
decision
and
and
we
have
people
in
place,
but
it's
been
so
up
in
the
air
that
people
are
saying
we
need
a
decision.
Are
we
going
forward,
then
we're
on
your
side.
I
had
somebody
this
morning.
Emailing
me
saying:
I
want
to
help
I
want
to
help
preserve
this
and
we're
getting
that
all
the
time.
H
A
D
You
were
saying
you
were
working
with
the
counselor
in
the
area
and
discussing
a
local
levy
to
be
applied
to
purchase.
His
credit
was
one
of
our
plans-
okay
and
and
was
city
staff
involved
in
that,
or
was
that
just
a
counselor
that
was
a
counselor
okay
and
how
much
a
fundraising
have
you
done
so
far
in
raise
to
date?
We.
C
H
D
H
Have
spoken
and
I
know
Julie,
who
I've
spoken
to
said
he'll
roll
out
the
red
carpet
for
us.
You
know
to
to
sell
it,
so
we
we
just
need.
We
need
support
from
the
city
to
say
this
is
a
good
idea.
Yes,
you
know
we
need
that
in
our
official
plan
you
know
or
vision.
The
vision
for
the
official
plan
in
2020
city
view
is
going
to
be
annihilated.
M
M
Good
morning,
thank
you
for
listening
to
us.
We've
seen
a
number
of
submissions
through
our
crossing
the
desk,
and
this
one
is
particularly
important.
It's
only
one
it's
from
mr.
Arthur
capelin
and
he
is
an
architect
and
he
designed
his
house
many
decades
ago
and
he
lives
in
it
and
it's
right
on
the
southeast
corner
of
this
property.
It's
an
idyllic
place,
it's
a
wonderful
place
and
the
next
lot
up
to
him
was
going
to
be
the
thoroughfare.
So
if
it
turns
into
a
construction
zone,
it's
gonna
be
a
nightmare.
M
He'll
lose
his
house,
so
he
wrote
a
beautiful
letter,
November
the
fifth
the
day
after
that
it
was
announced
at
this
healing
was
going
to
be
held.
So
he
wrote
this
letter
and
I'm
going
to
read
it.
It
says
it
perfectly.
The
this
is
a
gentleman
he's
well
respected,
he's
an
architect
and
he's
technical,
and
he
knows
some
of
the
details
that
you
might
want
to
hear.
I
hope
you
do
it
in
five
minutes
for
age
and
health
reasons
I'm
under
will
unable
to
make
this
presentation
in
person
I'm
making
it.
M
My
home
is
bounded
on
two
sides
by
the
property
in
question,
so
my
interest
in
this
development
or
paramount-
it
has
been
said
many
times
before,
but
it
was
worth
repeating.
The
21
Withrow
Avenue
site
is
a
very
is
very
special,
with
beautiful,
mature
trees,
it's
important
heritage
home
and
its
location
within
built-up
single-family
neighborhood.
It
deserves
particular
developmental
attention
that
is
sensitive
to
these
conditions.
Our
community
is
short
of
parkland,
and
this
is
the
last
one
open-space
the
ideal.
It's
ideally
suited
it's
ready-made
and
it's
a
much-needed
amenity.
M
Not
only
does
the
development
proposal
preclude
this,
it
does
not
provide
the
minimum
percentage
of
park
space
under
the
current
codes.
The
scheme
offers
no
public
amenities
of
any
kind
and
even
discourages
public
access
through
the
site.
It
is
a
privatized
scheme.
The
contrabass
contribution
made
to
the
Treasury
at
the
City
of
Ottawa
and
Mayor
park
space
would
likely
have
little
effect
on
our
community
facilities.
It
seems
wrong
to
me
that
densification
of
our
community
should
be
considered
with
it
without
inclusion.
M
The
park
space,
the
project
began
badly
when
the
for
sale
for
sale
sign
was
installed
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
included
a
note
that
there
were
14
Lots
available
on
the
site.
Although
this
is
a
completely
arbitrary
number,
it
established
a
maximum
price
for
the
property
and
fee
for
the
realtor,
if
achievable,
it
would
also
provide
marks
maximum
profit
for
the
developer.
However,
over
the
past
two
years,
the
developer
has
yet
to
find
a
way
to
obtain
approval
for
these
Lots.
M
The
most
recent
plan
for
the
overall
property
has
changed
little
since
its
first
iteration
over
a
year
ago,
despite
the
extensive
critique
and
commentary
offered
to
the
developer.
Since
that
time,
his
position
seems
to
have
hardened
of
the
many
detailed
landscape
and
engineering
comments
which
were
which
attempted
to
ameliorate
the
scheme
to
achieve
some
degree
of
his
acceptance.
Few,
if
any
have
been
satisfactorily
addressed,
there
are
five
locations
in
this
new
plan
where
large
blank
sidewalls
of
proposed
residences,
overpowered,
neighborhood
properties,
the
five
units
in
a
regimented
roll
are
40.
M
Foot
Lots
within
likely
will
have
common
materials,
standard
building
plans
all
minimally
spaced
and
are
so
close
to
rural
housing,
as
can
be
achieved
or
actually
adjoining
them.
This
is
over
built
and
out
of
character
in
the
dramatic
contrast
to
the
eight
lot
shown
in
the
option
and
a
far
in
another
way.
There
is
one
lot
in
the
northwest
corner
which
exceeds
everything
greatly.
Give
you
the
approach
of
the
developer,
to
maximize
the
built
area
on
the
twelve
units.
There's
real
prospect
for
a
home
on
this
to
be
gigantic.
M
A
Don't
forget:
there's
two
two
weeks
last
day
likely
until
the
next
council
meeting
when
this
item
would
be
on
the
agenda
as
well.
So
you
know
that
so
the
other
members
of
council
will
have
access
to
what
you
say
today
and
to
the
submission.
So
anybody
has
a
formal
submission
but
hasn't
submitted
it.
Yet
that
would
be
helpful
if
you
do,
because
you
know
when
the
committee
coordinator
does
the
minutes.
It's
it's.
It's
quite
limited
in
its
embellishment
of
what
you're
saying
okay.
A
A
E
Mm-Hmm
there
you
go
hi
I'm,
Nancy,
Wilson
I
live
at
16
with
her,
oh
so
right
across
from
the
property.
I
agree
with
everything
the
first
speaker,
Nick
tinker
said
and
following
the
following
speakers,
I
think
it
gives
you
reason
say
no
to
this
proposal.
Hello,
Velma
strip
21,
would
throw
a
nice
neighborhood.
I'm
have
always
have
always
lived
here.
I,
look
out
my
window
and
see
the
stately
trees
on
the
property
and
I
feel
so
sad
and
helpless,
knowing
that
it
could
all
be
taken
away
from
the
community.
E
E
She
says
a
note
on
art
and
heritage
of
an
kilmoray.
Hilary
is
the
only
home
in
the
confederation
poets
remaining
of
the
Confederation
poets
remaining
in
Ottawa
hardly
destroyed
the
home
of
Confederation
poet,
Duncan
Campbell
Scott
on
Lewis
Street,
opposite
this
very
City
Hall.
Now
it
is
a
parking
lot
also
destroyed
was
the
family
home
of
Confederation
poet,
Archibald
Lampman,
on
144th
Nicholas
throughout
the
years
and
planning
committee
after
planning
committee,
City
Council
after
City
Council
significant
buildings
in
Ottawa
have
disappeared.
E
For
example,
I
still
gave
the
majestic
Capitol
Theater
on
Bank
Street
Ottawa
has
nothing
to
approach,
is
stately
Beauty,
its
size
of
dignity,
I
know
it's
parked
on
dreams
and
me
as
a
teenager
and
I
saw
the
Kingston
Trio
there
and
watch
my
first
Shakespearean
play
there,
King
Lear
what
magic
I
learned
in
and
what
theatre
really
was
passion
and
humor,
but
was
vibrant,
not
flat
words
on
a
page,
our
heritage
matters
its
roots,
it
roots
us
in
our
country.
What
is
in
our
back
gives
us
permanence.
It
promotes
uncommon,
it
promotes.
E
Common
understanding
it
makes
people
feel
our
heritage
places
should
be
public,
honored
and
proudly
displayed,
not
hidden,
not
small,
not
chopped
into
pieces.
They
should
be
used
for
education,
for
inspiration
for
joy,
the
peace
and
humming
hearts
for
more
wonderful,
but
more
wonderful
men,
gardens
at
kilmoray,
nineteenth-century
gardens
with
bloodroot
in
hepatica
with
daffodils
and
dozens
of
other
wealth.
E
I
was
written
about
by
the
Confederation
poets
an
hour
by
hour,
among
all
shapes
that
grow
a
purple
moon,
some
daisies
gem
with
gold,
where
the
burnished
cups
of
the
marigold
blooms,
trillions,
scatter
their
wait,
winged
stars
I
see
the
blood
route
starting
also
bird
it
with
the
spring
Stratford's
garden
of
Elizabeth,
II
and
flowers
and
Shakespeare's
lines
from
plays
could
be
a
model
for
our
garden.
Other
countries
celebrate
their
people,
their
histories,
their
places,
a
life
and
art
not
just
in
form
of
Scots,
have
been
homes
and
gardens
and
streets.
E
We
are
watching
the
destruction
of
green
Ottawa
for
light
rail
and
condos,
watching
the
devastation
of
wildlife,
breeding,
the
toxic
fumes
of
diesels
and
trucks
and
suv's,
seeing
the
smothering
of
Earth
with
concrete
and
asphalt
the
chopping
down
of
trees
that
swallow
up
those
fumes.
Our
kids
are
sick
or
more
allergic,
more
dyslexic,
more
vulnerable
and
ever
Keep
Calm
islands,
green
gardens,
tasting
bunches
for
classes
and
some
concerts
keep
Kilauea
green
in
the
summer,
scarlet
and
gold
in
the
winter
or
the
whole
story.
E
A
A
N
B
N
Along
with
the
City
of
Ottawa
councillors,
we
to
embrace
the
city's
value
admission.
Many
of
these
are
outlined
in
the
city
about
was
own
Official
Plan.
The
role
of
the
Official
Plan
is
to
recognize
the
need
to
consider
the
social,
economic,
environmental
and
cultural
outcomes
of
land-use
decisions
and
how
these
will
affect
future
generations.
N
The
Official
Plan
is
set
to
manage
the
growth
in
ways
that
reinforce
the
qualities
of
city's,
most
valued
qualities
of
the
city,
most
valued
by
its
residents.
It's
distinctly
liveable
communities,
its
screen
and
open
character
and
its
unique
characteristics
that
distinguish
Ottawa
from
all
other
places.
The
plan
states
this
pad
meets
the
challenges
of
growth
of
the
next
20
years
by
pursuing
strategic
directions
in
the
following
key
areas:
managing
growth,
providing
infrastructure,
maintaining
environmental
integrity
and
building
livable
communities.
N
Notes
under
these
headings
include
green
spaces
will
be
valued
and
protected
for
their
environmental,
cultural
heritage,
recreational
educational
and
aesthetic
qualities,
familiar
landscapes
and
heritage.
Buildings
will
be
conserved.
Despite
ongoing
change,
growth
will
be
managed
ways
that
create
complete
communities
with
a
good
balance
of
facilities
and
services
to
meet
people's
everyday
needs,
including
schools,
community
facilities
parks,
a
variety
of
housing
and
places
to
work
and
shop.
Attention
to
the
sign
will
help
create
attractive
communities
while
buildings
open
space
and
transportation
work
together.
N
Other
sections,
the
official
plan,
are
also
relevant
to
the
consideration
of
this
application
section
233.
With
regards
to
stormwater
management,
it
states
that
stormwater
retrofit
planning
is
required
to
address
the
cumulative
impacts
of
infill
development
in
areas
of
the
city
that
developed
without
stray
water
management.
This
is
city
view
this
should
be
addressed
before
any
other
development
is
approved
in
our
community.
We
have
no
storm
sewers,
section,
2,
4,
1,
air
quality
and
climate
change.
N
It
is
ironic
that
the
city
in
purchase
tree
planting
in
this
case
it's
considered
the
trees
with
respect
to
green
spaces,
section
of
245,
the
Official
Plan
notes,
green
spaces.
The
Midlands
and
urban
areas
and
villages
also
help
create
a
sense
of
place
and
provide
physical
boundaries,
features
and
buffers
within
in-between
communities.
They
model
a
climate
and
provide
a
place
to
grow
food
and
community
gardens
as
historical
settings.
Cultural
heritage
landscapes
provide
information
about
the
past.
N
The
Official
Plan
continues:
are
the
residents
value
the
green
spaces
and
recognize
the
the
space
makes
to
the
high
quality
of
living
here,
as
the
populational
city
grows
to
twenty
thousand
thirty
one?
The
challenge
will
be
to
maintain
these
high
standards
as
new
communities
are
at
an
existing
neighborhoods
accommodate
inform
development
council.
N
It
has
the
power
to
transform
mundane
daily
experiences
into
a
deeper
understanding
of
where
we
have
come
from
and
it
enhances
our
quality
of
life
by
engendering
an
appreciation
of
local
identity
and
shared
community.
Our
cultural
heritage,
more
than
any
other
element
of
urban
design,
defines
what
is
unique
and
distinct
about.
Ottawa
and
equipment
contributes
to
the
livability
of
our
communities
five
seconds.
Okay,
also
states.
The
city
can
participate,
no,
second,
all
right,
yep
I,
just
like
design
and
summary
of
your
submission.
Many
of
these
policies
have
not
been
considered
and
revealed
this
application.
A
O
Okay,
I
would
just
like
to
speak
from
the
heart
about
the
importance
of
this
place,
and
people
have
referred
to
it.
As
being
you
know,
the
heart
of
city
view
it's
also
a
green
beating
heart
in
the
whole
amalgamated
City.
If
you
look
at
the
map,
almost
right
in
the
geographical
center
kill
mori
house
and
to
destroy
this
beautiful
property
will
be
an
irreversible
mistake.
O
I
don't
believe
that
it
should
be
allowed
and
there's
so
many
aspects
of
the
proposed
development
that
just
seemed
completely
wrongheaded,
as
other
people
have
expressed
and
in
some
detail,
I
was
going
to
look
a
bit
at
the
issue
of
water
runoff,
and
the
problem
here
is
a
planning
and
urban
management
have
decided
that
water
is
a
waste
product
instead
of
a
precious
resource,
and
so
even
the
city
is
requiring
people
to
raise
the
level
of
the
property.
So
the
water
will
run
onto
the
road.
O
O
The
whole
city
is
doing
this
and
more
and
more
water
runs
off
faster
and
faster,
and
we
get
more
and
more
flooding
in
the
spring,
because
that
water
is
not
being
held
back
anywhere.
We
need
to
regard
water
as
a
resource,
and
one
of
the
submissions
I
sent
in
and
I've
brought
it
to
people's
attention
before
there's
the
possibility
that
every
home
and
I
don't
mean
just
in
the
proposed
development,
but
every
new
home
built
should
have
its
own
cistern
and
all
these
garages,
they
don't
have
any
rooms
below
them.
O
You
could
install
a
huge
sister
in
there.
The
water
from
the
roof
could
go
into
it.
The
homeowner
would
have
water
for
the
lawn
in
the
garden
and
everything
else,
and
that
would
save
us
from
some
of
the
flooding
that
is
happening
in
the
spring.
All
these
properties
near
the
water
that
are
vulnerable
it's
because
there
is
too
much
runoff
and
because
the
this
kind
of
wrongheaded
development
idea
that
water
has
to
run
onto
the
road
it
shouldn't,
and
so
that's
just
another
one
aspect
of
this
development.
That
seems
wrong
to
me.
O
But
what
we
need
to
do
here
is
value,
something
very
special
and
unique.
It's
special
and
unique
in
all
of
Ottawa
to
have
this
beautiful
home
to
have
grounds
around
it,
and
you
know:
we've
respected
private
property.
We
don't
go
onto
the
property
because
we
know
it's
not
public
access,
but
this
new
development
would
completely
destroy
any
hope
of
access,
any
hope
of
people
being
able
to
visit
the
heritage
property
which
we
should
be
allowed
to
do,
and
the
committee
they're
the
the
foundation
that
set
up
that
would
like
to
manage
it.
O
That
would
like
to
have
a
public
access
to
hold
cultural
events
there
that
none
of
that
will
be
able
to
happen,
and
so
I
would
like
to
appeal
to
the
members
of
this
committee
to
say
no
to
this
development.
The
the
committee
of
adjustment
even
had
said
no
completely
to
it,
but
L
can't
Pat
came
in
and
and
their
process
was
kind
of
slanted
and
they
their
lawyers
control.
O
B
B
B
Confederación
poets
have
been
destroyed
in
meetings
like
this
over
the
years,
and
I
would
like
to
hope
that
we
can
do
better
today,
William
Wilford
Campbell
is
a
great
man.
He
was
our
first
poet
laureate.
He
wrote
many
important
documents
for
our
country
for
the
history
of
our
country,
who's
brought
to
Ottawa
to
be
a
voice
for
our
country.
B
To
buy
his
place
in
the
country-
and
this
was
the
kill
Mori
estate,
where
the
nature
that
he
loved
and
that
he
wrote
so
much
about,
and
then
he
created
a
Canadian
voice
for
an
understanding
as
we
as
Canadians
and
our
love
of
nature
and
our
recognition.
That
nature
is
what
people
around
the
world
see
is
being
part
of
Canada.
He
helped
create
this
I'm
from
the
poet's
pathway
committee.
We
created
a
monument
to
Canada's
poets
and
as
a
green
necklace.
B
B
B
B
B
A
B
E
However,
our
community
is
experiencing
the
rapid
erosion
of
a
foundation
upon
which
the
most
livable
midsize
city
in
North
America
can
be
developed
by
the
time
the
city
approves
and
is
fully
capable
of
implementing
the
plan.
Our
community
will
already
be
Delap
and
developed
into
a
slab
of
concrete
our
extensive
tree,
canopy,
all
other
plant
components
and
the
diverse
species
that
they
will
support
will
be
gone
as
well
as
the
environmental
services
and
health
benefits
they
provide
to
improve
our
quality
of
life.
We
can
call
ourselves
a
mature
community.
We
have
no
parks.
E
Our
green
space
is
mainly
on
private
property.
Our
green
space
is
the
green
stuff
on
our
properties.
When
you
look
down
a
street
in
City
View,
without
the
current
influence
in
Philly,
as
Nick
showed
you,
you
see
streets
lined
with
trees,
lots
with
shrubs
and
soft
plant
material.
When
you
look
down
a
street
with
current
in
Philly,
no
trees,
no
greenery,
no
garden,
it's
the
same
stone
mansions,
covering
the
whole
lot
with
a
small
token
long,
a
concrete
and
stone
desert.
That
is
what
is
development.
E
The
city
has
committed
to
a
climate
change
strategy.
Even
mature
communities
such
as
City
View,
with
their
greenery,
can
collectively
contribute
to
mitigating
the
effects
of
climate
change,
such
as
the
cooling
effect,
the
reduction
of
heat
island
and
health,
Ebola
FEX
and
improving
air
quality,
and
it
has
been
proven
that
green
space
is
essential
to
healthy
communities,
both
physically
and
mentally.
Our
private
property
green
space.
The
green
stuff
contributes
to
our
community
health.
E
The
city
could
promote
an
appropriate
type
of
development
in
mature
communities
such
as
city
view,
rather
than
the
oratio
territory,
shrub
and
all
associated
living
beings.
The
type
of
development
that
takes
place
now
provides
no
compensation
or
replacement
for
loss.
The
loss
of
Environmental
Services,
the
loss
of
health
benefits.
It
gives
nothing
back
to
the
community.
It
deprives
the
community
so
can
marry
a
green
oasis
to
a
KERS
with
over
100
mature
trees,
as
mentioned
by
previous
speakers.
With
a
great
variety
of
species
is
environmentally
significant,
it
could
contribute
greatly
to
community
health
and
livability.
E
A
A
N
C
Out,
thank
you.
Members
of
council
I,
don't
chair,
I'm
a
resident
of
Ottawa
and
always
lived
here
all
of
my
life,
my
parents,
have
my
great-grandparents.
Have
we've
seen
a
lot
of
things
happen
in
our
communities,
I'd
like
to
start
out
by
congratulating
all
the
people
prior
to
me
who
spoke,
they
spoke
from
their
heart
and
their
beliefs,
not
only
for
their
community
for
all
communities.
C
We've
done
a
lot
of
development
in
our
city,
as
we
all
know,
to
find
people
like
you've
had
prior
to
me
again
dedicated
to
help
the
city
they
help.
The
councillors
to
arrive
at
something
they
love
to
see
is
amazing.
I
was
part
of
the
committee
for
a
period
of
time
and
I
wasn't
able
to
continue
only
because
we
there
was
a
health
matter
in
my
family
and
I
didn't
find
out
about
this
meeting
today
until
yesterday,
but
I
didn't
want
to
miss
it.
C
C
C
C
C
C
Are
raising
are
built
within
their
communities
now
I.
Don't
have
any
information
in
writing.
Sorry
about
that,
however.
I
will,
in
the
days
follow
and
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
I
know
counselors,
because
I
know
you
feel,
have
a
difficult
job
but
think
about
why
you
became
counselors
to
help
the
community.
Thank
you.
A
C
B
B
A
A
I
Thank
you.
Thank
you
good
morning,
madam
chair
members
of
the
planning
committee.
My
name
is
Jonah.
Bond
to
my
right
is
Emma
Blanchard
of
Port
Ladner
survey,
she's
legal
counsel
to
the
applicant
I'll,
make
a
few
brief
remarks
outlining
the
salient
points
of
the
application
and
we'll
leave
it
at
that.
As
I
know,
been
many
many
speakers
this
morning,
you'll
receive
a
comprehensive
written
report
from
planning
staff.
I
will
do
my
best,
not
to
repeat
all
the
contents
of
that
report.
I
think
it
speaks
for
itself,
a
considerable
amount
of
time.
I
Money
and
effort
has
been
expended
in
advancing
the
applications
for
subdivision
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
since
they
were
filed
over
two
years
ago
in
early
November
of
2017,
there
has
been,
in
our
view,
ample
opportunity
for
public
consultation.
Please
recall:
there's
been
a
parallel
process
over
the
past
couple
of
years
with
a
committee
of
adjustment
application
and
a
subsequent
l-pad
hearing
for
four
Lots
fronting
with
row,
which
do
not
form
part
of
the
subdivision.
I'll
touch
on
this.
In
a
few
moments,
let
me
say
that
we
acknowledge
and
respect
the
comments
from
the
public.
I
We've
done
our
best
to
address
their
concerns,
and
we
believe
that
we've
arrived
at
a
final
plan
that
is
based
on
sound
planning
principles.
This
is
a
highly
unique
site.
We
acknowledge
that
this
is
point
8
acres
of
land
with
frontage
on
three
streets.
It's
improved
with
a
heritage
designated
structure
known
as
kilmury
house
Komori
house
and
the
lands
are
privately
owned.
It
was
constructed
170
years
ago.
Komori
is
not
being
demolished
and
city
view,
in
our
view,
is
not
being
annihilated.
I
With
respect
to
the
subdivision
proposal,
the
application
calls
for
ten
freehold
Lots,
nine
of
which
will
contain
two-story
detached
dwellings
on
lots
raging
in
size
from
353
to
777
square
meters.
The
heritage
house
will
remain
showcased
amongst
his
Enclave
on
a
1,000
84
square
meter
lot.
Once
again,
it
is
being
saved,
not
demolished,
recall
once
again
that
the
application
applies
only
to
part
of
the
site.
The
lands
frontier
with
row
will
contain
four
homes,
detached
dwellings
being
developed
pursuant
to
consent
in
various
applications.
I
I
There
is
a
concurrent
zoning
bylaw
amendment
proposal,
rezoning
the
lands
from
our
one
FF
exception,
632,
which
is
the
zoning
in
the
bulk
of
city
view
to
an
r1
our
special
exception
zone.
This
once
again
pertains
only
to
the
Lots
within
the
subdivision
in
the
interior
portion,
not
the
floor,
Lots
fronting
on
with
row
with
respect
to
our
planning
rationale.
The
provincial
policy
statement,
which
provides
the
overall
guidance
for
land-use
planning
in
the
province
of
Ontario,
calls
for
the
efficient
development
patterns
and
an
appropriate
housing
mix.
I
We
submit
that
we
are
satisfying
this
directive,
we're
also
protecting
the
cultural
heritage
asset
in
the
form
of
rehabilitation
of
Kilmore
e
house.
The
official
plan
of
the
City
of
Ottawa
designates
the
lands
is
general
urban
area.
We
feel
that
we
are
contributing
to
a
range
of
housing
types
at
providing
a
much
sought-after
form
of
housing,
stock
being
single-family
detached
residences
that
are
consistent
with
the
urban
design
guidelines
for
low-rise,
infill
housing
and
accordingly,
we
are
satisfying
the
goals
of
city
intensification.
I
In
my
view,
one
the
most
important
points
to
recognize
here
is
that
of
compatibility.
Compatibility
does
not
mean
the
same
as
what
it
means
is.
It
can
coexist
with,
and
it's
our
view
that
the
ten
lot
subdivision
will
coexist
with
the
existing
fabric
and
lauding
pattern
in
city
view.
Bear
in
mind
that
the
access
for
the
subdivision
will
be
private
road
it'll,
be
shielded
from
the
community
and
will
form
an
enclave.
The
four
Lots
frontier
with
Roe
are
a
different
development
fabric,
more
consistent
with
the
overall
seedy
view
lauding
pattern.
I
So,
once
again,
it's
the
two-phase
development
with
a
service
public
road
serving
the
four
Lots
on
city
view
upon
on
with
row
rather,
which
are
not
part
of
the
subdivision
and
Phase.
Two
which
we're
discussing
today,
will
have
a
different
lot
fabric,
a
different
architectural
style,
to
respect
the
kill,
mori
house
and
will
be
governed
by
a
different
zoning
which
has
been
proposed
in
the
staff
report.
I
A
B
I
do
have
some
questions
I'm
going
to
you
were
speaking
about
the
trees
and
the
replanting
and
preservation
plans.
Can
you
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
just
a
little
bit
more
on
your
preservation.
I've
been
looking
at
images
of
the
the
trees
that
are
along
there.
They're
lining
the
the
edges
of
the
property.
What
can
we
expect
to
see
so.
I
There
once
again,
there's
two
components:
the
development
there's,
the
four
Lots
front
and
Withrow,
which
actually
do
not
form
part
of
the
subdivision.
Those
are
being
developed
pursuant
to
an
L
Pat
decision
in
May
of
2019
and
that's
a
different
development
application,
the
preservation
and
rehabilitation
or
replanting
and
I'm
referring
to
relates
to
within
the
actual
interior
portion
on
the
private
road
that
will
be
cut
in
through
st.
Helens.
So
I'm,
not
a
landscape.
Architect.
I
B
B
P
E
I
B
I
B
I
Is
to
sell
it
to
a
private,
a
private
homeowner,
so
the
number
I've
been
given
for
rehabilitation
is
anywhere
up
to
four
hundred
thousand
to
rehabilitate
the
actual
house.
There's
a
separate
garage
structure
which
is
not
designated
heritage
that
has
to
be
rebuilt
at
a
cost
of
approximately
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
so
and.
B
I
G
I
would
challenge
you
again
to
tell
me
how
you're
responding
to
community
concerns
the
loss
of
open
space
when
I
take
a
look
at
the
city
view
in
whole.
This
is
a
large,
significant
loss
of
open
space
that
we've
heard
about
from
resident
after
resident
and
I
would
ask
you
to
tell
me
again
how
you're
addressing
the
the
residents
concerns
there,
the
lack
of
parks.
You
know
there
are
very
few
parks
nearby.
G
Certainly,
even
though
I'm
representing
a
really
dense
urban
neighborhood
I've
got
a
lot
more
pocket
parks
that
residents
could
take
advantage
of
if
you're
north
of
with
row.
There
is
very
little
for
you
by
way
of
publicly
owned
park.
Space
and
I
challenge
you
to
tell
me
how
this
addresses
the
community's
concern
over
the
loss
of
potential
park.
Space
they've
described
their
commitment
to
doing
whatever
it
takes
to
turn
this
into
a
park.
I
I,
don't
see
how
your
proposal
furthers
their
interest
on
that
front
and
also
breathing
space
for
the
heritage.
G
Property
I
understand
that
the
grounds
are
not
part
of
the
heritage
designation,
but
it
does
require
in
order
to
I
I'm
hearing
the
community's
concerns
about
the
the
loss
of
the
proper
framing
of
the
heritage
house.
It's
going
to
be
surrounded
by
you
know,
million-dollar
homes
that
are
going
to
be
quite
large.
Tell
me
again:
how
is
your
proposal
responding
to
the
community's
concerns.
I
Thanks
for
your
questions
with
respect
to
the
trees,
I'll
pass
around
a
copy
of
the
landscape
plan,
I
can't
sit
here
and
tell
you
that
there
won't
be
any
loss
of
trees
that
wouldn't
be
truthful,
but
it's
our
view
and
in
consultation
with
a
landscape
architect
that
there
will
be
sufficient
rehabilitation,
protection
and
supplementation
of
trees
to
satisfy
the
city's
concerns.
In
that
regard.
I
I
There'll
be
cash
into
a
parkland
paid
to
augment
the
current
parks
in
the
ward
and
the
citywide
area,
as
per
city
policy,
and
with
respect
to
your
final
point
about
the
fabric
of
the
lot
development
and
how
it
works.
In
order
to
make
this
development
work
both
physically
and
financially,
there
has
to
be
a
certain
density
achieved.
To
be
frank,
the
development
of
the
kill
Mori
house
will
take
place
on
a
lot
which
has
a
minimum
lot:
width
of
23
meters
and
minimum
law
area
1080
square
meters.
I
So
that's
about
three
times
the
size,
the
other
Lots
in
that
particular
enclave
of
of
homes.
So
some
effort
has
been
made
to
showcase
it
and
to
make
it
prominent
and
to
protect
it.
I
appreciate
the
concerns
of
the
residents,
but
in
order
to
make
this
all
work
both
physically
and
financially,
there
has
to
be
a
certain
arrangement
on
the
site
and
the
zoning
bylaw.
G
The
other
question
I
have
is
probably
for
more
for
mr.
T
bears
than
then
then
you
folks,
which
is
why
proceed
with
this
now
the
the
residents
are
without
full-time
representation
to
bears
properties
all
over
the
city
that
it
is
currently
developing.
You
and
I
have
have
chats
about
those
from
time
to
time
why
this
property?
Why
now,
why
not
give
these
residents
the
opportunity
to
see
what
they
can
do
in
terms
of
saving
it
and
I?
We
can
treat
that
as
rhetorical
unless
mr.
D
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
legation
today,
I've
heard
a
lot
of
the
people
come
up,
they're,
very
passionate
about
this
property.
Here
some
number
of
you
know:
half
million
dollars,
I
looked
at
it
and
go.
This
is
a
million
dollar
property?
Clearly
I'm,
not
a
realtor.
By
any
stretch
back,
have
you
actually
even
contemplated
any
kind
of
number
I
mean
it's
not
new.
We've
seen
it
happen,
I
guess
there
was
a
golf
course.
That's
recently
been
purchased
by
the
community.
So
have
you
guys
given
any
thought
to
that?
I
It's
a
good
question
I'm
given
to
understand,
subject
to
miss
Blanchard's
comments
that
our
client
has
this
under
green,
the
purchase
and
sale.
So
I'm
not
sure
he
has
the
latitude
to
necessarily
do
that
unless
he
assigned
the
agreement
of
purchase
and
sale
to
the
residents
or
Community
Association
or
some
other
Society
I'll.
Let
miss
Blanchard
speak
to
that
opportunity.
Q
For
you,
madam
chair
I,
think
mr.
Taveras
has
always
had
been
clear
with
the
community
that
he
would
be
prepared
to
entertain
an
offer,
but
this
has
been
two
years
in
coming
and
ultimately
can't
wait
forever.
The
first
application
was
made
in
2017.
I
am
advised
that
there's
been
no
genuine
offer
to
purchase
the
property,
so
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day.
It's
not
something
that
mr.
Tavares
is
necessary
as
necessarily
foreclosed
or
precluded
over
the
last
two
years.
But
ultimately,
you
know
he's
got
to
move
ahead
with
his
plans.
Q
D
And
that
that
was
my
fear,
because
you
know
you
heard
some
of
my
questions
before
about.
Did
the
counselor
for
the
area
make
mention
of
some
kind
of
local
levee
that
could
apply
to
it,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
there's
no
magic
number
and
no
one
from
society
is
speaking
to
side
B,
it's
very
difficult
to
make
this
happen.
I
A
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
few
things
I
wanted
to
ask.
One
was
at
least
one
of
the
delegations
mentioned.
The
Parkland
deficit
and
I.
Think
council
early
purchase
raised
that
as
well,
how
a
staff
calculated
the
parkland
required
in
this
area
and
made
that
determination
that
there's
no
parkland
deficit
currently
Jennifer.
F
Q
Q
Madam
chair
council,
it
hasn't
been
calculated
that
there
is
no
parkland
deficit
in
the
area.
What's
been
calculated
is
the
distance
from
Withrow
to
accessible
parklands,
so
from
21
with
RO,
there
are
seven
parks
within
a
one
point:
five
kilometer
radius,
so
their
first
City
View
Park
is
about
400
meters
from
21
Withrow
and
that's
a
point
for
for
Hector
park.
Q
Bassano
Park
is
a
point:
zero
nine
hectare
park
and
it's
430
meters
from
21
Withrow
Gilby
Park
is
a
3.5
hectare
community
park
and
it
is
800
metres
from
21
with
row
dug
fro
Bell
Park
is
a
point
8
hectare
Park
and
it's
900
meters
from
21
with
row.
Ansley
Park
is
a
1.2
hectare.
Park
neighborhood
park.
It's
one
kilometer
from
21
and
through
with
row.
Q
L
Ok,
I'm
just
trying
to
think
of
criteria.
If,
if
the
community
was
coming
and
saying,
we
would
like
the
city
to
look
at
purchasing
this
in
partnership
with
the
community.
What
kind
of
criteria
would
you
be
looking
at
then
decide
whether
or
not
that's
a
logical
or
you
know
a
logical
purchase
for
the
city
to
make
so.
Q
The
Parks
and
Rec
at
the
time
when
it
was
started
to
move
forward.
We
looked
at
the
cost
of
rehabilitating
the
the
heritage
house
and
then
that
there's
we
have
no
way
to
fund
the
cost
of
that
and
then
running
it.
So
the
rehabilitation
of
that
house
for
a
commercial
for
a
public
use
is
greater
than
that
for
a
single
residential
use
and
then
also
running
that
property.
It
was
just
cost
prohibitive
for
us.
Okay,.
L
I
wanted
to
move
on
because
that
the
house
does
have
heritage,
designation
dating
back
I,
think
to
2016
I,
don't
know
the
specifics
of
that
designation
and
what
kind
of
setbacks,
or
what
kind
of
just
looking
at
the
the
overall
site
plan?
Does
it
respect
any
of
the
requirements
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act
designation.
F
C
Madam
chair,
the
when
the
property
was
designated
under
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act,
the
the
intention
was
that
a
parcel
of
land
when
it
went
and
if
the
plan
for
subdivision
went
through
that
a
parcel
of
land
that
was
adequate
to
protect
and
honor
its
cultural
heritage
value
around
the
property
would
be
it
would
be,
it
would
be
created
and
a
lot
would
be
created.
And
that's
what's
happened
through
the
through
the
plan
of
subdivision
process.
C
L
G
Majors
asking
and
maybe
mr.
mark
can
assist
the
four
parcels
that
are
not
part
of
this
plan
of
subdivision,
but
that
have
been
approved
by
the
ALP
at
to
go
in
along
with
ro.
What
was
the
committee
of
adjustment
rationale
for
turning
those
down?
What
was
what
were
the
basic
arguments
in
front
of
the
ELL
Patna,
and
why
did
it
decide
the
way
it
did
and
are
any
of
those
arguments
relevant
to
how
the
ALP
at
might
look
at
the
further
subdivision
of
this?
This
larger
lot.
G
Madam
chair
I,
don't
have
the
decision
of
the
for
the
severance
adjacent
to
this
parcel
in
front
of
me,
so
I'm
not
in
the
position
to
speak
to
the
recommendations
that
the
committee
made
at
the
time
happy
to
get
that
information
for
you
in
advance
of
council.
If
that
helps
yeah
I'd
appreciate
that
Tim,
do
you
have
any
dome?
So
if
I
could
see
the
the
C
of
a
in
L
Pat
decisions
before
council,
that
would
be
helpful.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah
I
think
that
for
some
people
who
this
is
their
first
term
of
counsel,
this
is
not
the
first
discussion
we've
had
on
this
application
and
not
the
first
time
that
we've
heard
from
mr.
Shen
yeas
park
staff
from
the
Heritage
aspect
of
why
things
have
rolled
out
the
way
that
they
have
has
just
taken
a
lot
longer
than
normal
to
get
to
this
process
where
we
are
today.
So
you
know,
we've
heard
from
from
miss
Coutts
on
her
thoughts
and
the
way
the
heritage
designation
went
and
the
land
around
it.
A
You
heard
on
the
park's
specific
I
mean
city
of
you
is
a
very
defined
community.
It's
it's
it's
with
the
exception
of
Ryan
farm
being
parked
in
a
piece
of
it.
It's
an
easy
definition
for
city
of
you
and
it's
interesting
to
hear
the
amount
of
park
space.
But
you
know
I,
look
at
in
Barr
Haven,
the
Mowen's
one
of
the
original
farming
families
and
they,
the
mowett
farm
house,
was
kept
with
an
end.
A
Nepean
designation,
but
the
rest
of
the
immediate
farmland
along
Melville
was
developed
into
I,
think
eight
homes
or
something
like
that,
a
budding
you
know
the
street.
It's
not
it's,
not
rare,
not
to
have
parkland.
It's
not
rare
for
us
to
get
cash
in
lieu
of
parkland
for
properties.
It
happens.
All
the
time
counselor
counselors
in
the
inner
area
have
got
a
couple
of
million
dollars
in
some
cases
of
money
because
we're
not
putting
parks
into
there.
A
Whereas
suburban
areas,
we
tend
to
build
the
parks
as
we're
building
the
communities,
but
not
always
right
now,
I
have
when
it's
finally
being
developed
by
uniform,
but
it's
on
law.
It's
on
long
fields,
former
jock
fell
through
Stonebridge
and
was
always
called
the
pink
house.
I
took
the
pink
house
down
in
the
building
56
units
they're,
not
putting
any
parkland
there
on
that
space,
but
they're
giving
cash
and
little
parkland
so
I
am.
A
You
know,
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
more
history
and
investigation
that
we've
done
and
I
know
the
community
has
been
engaged
for
a
couple
of
years
and
the
counselor
was
very
engaged
as
well
and
I.
Think
that
that's
important
now
we're
not
bereft
of
counsel
representation,
because
we
purposely
made
the
decision
to
have
counsel
speak
on
behalf
of
just
as
we
have
with
counselor
Dean's,
Council,
brockington
and
counselor
me.
E
A
Are
officially
the
representative,
counselor
Moffitt
and
counselor
hubely
are
on
the
counselor
Ellis
area,
so
I
just
bring
that
to
your
attention.
So
thank
you
everybody
for
coming
out
today
and
thank
you
thank
you
for
the
staff
Thank
You
Jarek
to
have
the
wisdom
to
have
the
parks,
people
and
the
and
the
heritage.
People
wasn't
I'm
giving
credit
in
the
wrong
place.
Thank
you.
R
Things
I
have
any
questions
for
any
delegations
or
staff,
so
I
sworn
see
and
pardon
my
voice.
It's
a
good
times
the
raspy
voicing
gonna
record
a
jazz
album
when
I'm
done
here
so
on
this
file.
It's
I
had
the
pleasure
to
meet
with
Joan
Clarke
and
Jill
Prout.
Last
week,
I
had
some
discussions
as
well
with
with
Jada
bears
as
well
about
the
property
and
Bill
Holtzman.
There's,
certainly
some
challenges
in
the
city
view.
Crestview
area
fell
apart
perspective.
R
There's
no
there's
no
question
the
difficulty
becomes
is
that
is
that
developers
possibility
is
that
the
city's
responsibility
I
think
it
going
back
a
couple
years
on
this
file
and
being
on
built
heritage
when
we
designated
it
and
keep
mine.
The
current
owners
were
not
interested
in
the
designation
whatsoever.
They
wanted
to
tear
the
house
down
and
develop
the
entire
thing,
so
saving
the
property
saving
the
building
itself
was
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
It's
difficult
that
we
can't
save
the
entire
site,
but
there's
also
a
financial
component
to
that.
R
As
as
everyone
knows,
you
know
hindsight
being
what
it
is
there
is.
There
was
probably
the
opportunity
to
do
more
in
terms
of
a
levy
process.
Councillor,
Harvey
and
I
are,
of
course,
counselor
Mian
and
councillor
caucus
before
her
were
involved
with
a
levy
process.
With
you
know,
in
under
six
or
seven
months,
we
managed
to
get
a
levy
voted
on
and
approved
to
the
tune
of
seven
million
dollars
to
protect
green
space.
R
It's
not
like
it's
impossible,
but
there
becomes
a
time
a
point
in
time
where
your
opportunities
lapse
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
challenges
here
from
the
cash
in
lieu
of
parkland
perspective.
There
is
$530,000
in
the
college,
Ward
CIL,
accounts
and
I
think
it
would
be
wise
to
use
that
in
this
area,
I
look
at
the
at
the
designated
major
open
space
at
the
very
south
end
of
Crestview,
which
is
of
the
Crestview
Community
Association
area,
which
is
the
hydro
corridor.
R
You
know
what's
one
of
the
opportunities
there,
what's
the
potential
there
developmental
or
male
role
with
the
revelry
developments,
you
know
there
should
be
green
space
in
these
developments.
It's
currently
in
asphalt
wasteland.
There
should
be
opportunity,
through
future
growth
in
the
area,
to
create
better
amenity
space.
I
know
we
listed
the
parks
and
it's
a
challenge
right,
because
you
look
at
the
parks,
you
say
yes,
there's
parks,
but
Doug
fobel
Park
is
not
exactly
a
community
park.
It's
a
ball
diamond!
R
It's
just
it's
just
a
ball
diamond
right,
so
there
are
parks
in
this
area,
but
they're
very
specific,
so
they're,
not
just
community
gathering
spaces
there.
There
are
purpose-built
parks
that
have
specific
uses.
There's
one
damage
to
two
schools
as
probaly
tennis
courts,
privately
privately
operated,
tennis
courts,
the
city
land,
but
it's
probably
operated.
R
So
there
are
some
unique
realities
to
this
specific
area
of
college
Ward
that
do
not
exist
in
the
other
areas
of
college
Ward,
so
I
do
believe
there
is
a
need
to
cover
down
the
city
to
to
make
some
effort
from
a
park
space
perspective,
but
in
terms
of
this
actual
develop
application,
you
know
the
rights
are
there
that
the
the
official
plan
states
that
it
is
a
general
urban
area?
It
is
permissible
to
be
developed.
I
know
there
was
the
mention
of
the
climate
change
aspect.
R
The
climate
change
master
plan
is
not
going
to
be
what
you
think
it's
gonna
be
when
it
comes
forward.
It
is
going
to
promote
an
intensification,
severe
intensification
across
the
city
that
is
likely
going
to
make
all
secondary
plans
rendered
moot,
because
it
is
going
to
require
much
more
intensification
in
areas
that
are
currently
by
definition
underdeveloped.
R
So
it's
not
the
best
tool
to
use
to
fight
intensification
because
it
is
going
to
be
the
catalyst
to
even
more
intensification.
I
do
want
to
ask
one
question
all
actually,
just
off
top
my
mind
more
of
a
direction.
There
is
an
interesting
aspect
in
this
community
from
the
cash
and
loot
perspective
and
the
lots
the
lot
fabric
it
hasn't.
They
haven't
all
created
the
ability
for
cash
lieu
to
come
in.
Is
there
an
ability
to
look
at
that?
R
R
I
think
I
think
you
will
see
more
infill
in
this
community
and
and
if
every
single
time
we
see
that
infill,
if
we're
losing
the
opportunity
to
get
cash
and
LU
that's
going
to
make
the
situation
worse
so
I'm,
just
curious,
yeah
I'll
be
interested
to
look
at
that
further
and
see
what
opportunities
there.
So
that's
why
thank
the
folks
that
came
forward
again
thanks
to
it's
not
an
ideal
situation
to
be
in,
but
I
do
think.
D
This
is
a
housekeeping
one
again,
madam
chair.
Therefore,
it
be
resolved
that
the
planning
committee
add
the
following
recommendation:
that
the
planning
committee
refer:
the
completion
of
the
subdivision
process
and
registration
of
the
subdivision
plan
to
staff
in
accordance
with
the
delegated
authority.
Bylaws.
C
C
A
Okay-
and
you
probably
heard
that
we're
looking
for
some
more
information
from
staff
between
now
and
council
council
will
be
in
November,
the
27th
and
anyone
who
has
not
submitted
their
their
speaking
notes.
Please
provide
them
to
us
and
does
not
be
today,
send
them
in
email
or
etc.
Just
we
have
them
so
that
the
rest
of
the
council
can
have
a
good
look
at
everything
before
them,
and
also
councillor
leaper
had
asked
for
information
on
the
committee
of
adjustment
ruling
and
the
l-pad
mr.
mark.
A
A
The
next
item,
the
item,
we're
going
back
to-
is
that
deferral
item
that
you've
seen
a
lot
of
activity
in
the
room
inside
outside
where's
councillor
egg
lay
oh
there.
You
are
so
councillor
egg.
Why?
Perhaps
you
want
to
as
succinctly
as
possible,
speak
to
the
confusion
before
me
and
what's
caused
all
the
activity
in
running
around
so.
S
It's
not
so
much
confusion,
it's
more
like
collaboration,
so
I'll
get
to
it
quickly.
So
we've
been
working
I've
been
working
along
with
the
couple
representatives
from
my
community,
because
there's
two
community
associations
impacted
by
this
project,
Country,
Place
and
and
the
and
the
Glen's
around
the
redevelopment
of
the
hydro
site
on
by
Marilyn
flak.
S
So
what
you'll
see
before
you
is,
there's
a
there's,
a
technical
amendment
which
I'm
not
going
to
speak
to
I
had
nothing
to
do
with
that.
That's
just
just
crossing
T's
and
dotting
eyes
from
staffs
perspective,
but
you'll
see
there
are
two
motions
in
front
of
you
that
councillor
leaper
has
has
agreed
to
move
on.
My
behalf
at
the
heart
of
the
matter
is
that
this
is
a
rezoning
application.
There
isn't
a
specific
tenant
in
place
or
project
in
place.
S
The
second
one
was
the
one
that
had
a
shuttling
back
and
forth
in
and
out
of
the
room,
and
that
has
to
do
with
the
specific
uses
around
car,
dealership
or
repair
facilities,
and
the
the
community
was
looking
at
a
restriction
on
the
amount
of
the
lot
size
that
could
be
used
for
that
and
it's.
If
any
of
you
were
going
to
pass
that
law.
It's
a
quite
a
significant
lot,
and
so
they
were
looking.
They
were
accepting
not
happily,
but
accepting
that
that
a
car
dealership
could
go
there.
S
So
the
second
motion
dealing
with
the
the
maximal
lot
coverage
being
limited
to
80%
for
outdoor
display,
sale,
rental,
servicing
and
storage
and
motor
vehicles
and
heavy
vehicles,
is
the
one
we've
been
going
back
and
forth
on
this
morning
and
again,
I
want
to
thank
Brian,
caster,
Gandhi
and
his
and
his
team
here
today
for
listening
to
the
community
being
prepared
to
be
flexible
in
those
discussions
and
his
coin,
who
couldn't
be
here
as
I
understand,
is
in
France.
I
think
also
has
been
part
of
these
part
of
these.
S
Discussions
have
been
going
on
for
a
couple
of
weeks
since
the
deferral
so
I
want
to
thank
them
as
well.
So
I
think
we
come
forward
with
with
was
something
that
the
both
sides
can
live
with,
accepting
that
a
car
dealership
would
go
in
there
potentially
and
that's
not
necessarily
what
they
want.
But
the
again
the
applicant
has
been
sensitive
to
making
and
is
appealing
a
site
as
possible
if
there
was
a
site
like
that.
S
A
S
A
And
so
we've
got
Jack.
Are
you
all
by
yourself
left
here
with
the
original?
Oh
there
you
are
hi,
and
so
it
was
good
to
see
the
flurry
of
activity
and
the
hard
work
that
definitely
a
councillor.
Eglee
has
done
so
you
are
an
agreement
with
these
two,
the
one
that
speaks
to
the
no
gas
bar
no
cannabis,
even
though
I
might
add
that
it's
across
the
street,
from
the
one
and
only
strip
club
that
Nepean
ever
had
and
would
ever
be
allowed
to
have
I
know
it's
gone.
A
D
And
command
chair,
as
a
council
I
mentioned
this
is
the
crossing
T's
darting
eyes.
Therefore,
I'd
be
resolved.
That
planning
committee
recommend
to
council
the
zoning
details
in
document
3
under
the
proposed
new
exception
to
section
39,
2
1,
add
the
text
in
column.
5,
subsection
255
does
not
apply
to
an
automobile
body
shop,
a
heavy
equipment
or
heavy
equipment
and
vehicle
sales,
rental
and
servicing
use
and
storage
yard,
and
be
it
FURTHER
RESOLVED
that,
pursuant
to
the
planning,
acts
subsection,
34,
17,
no
further
notice
to
be
given
so.
A
On
the
technical
amendment
carried
and
so
on,
the
on
the
first
motion
with
regard
to
the
Adam
maximum
lock
coverage
of
80%
for
land
use
used
for
the
outdoor
display,
sale,
rental,
servicing
and
storage
of
motor
vehicles
and
heavy
vehicles
to
the
provisions
in
column
5
and
be
it
FURTHER,
RESOLVED
that
pursuant
to
Planning,
Act,
subsection,
34
17
no
further
notice
be
given,
is
that
item
carried
well
they've
worked
it
out
now.
Okay,
I
mean
it's
good
when,
when
they
actually,
when
everybody
does
work
it
out.
A
So
if
you
know,
thank
you
again,
everyone
for
doing
that.
The
next
item
is
with
regard
to
the
add
the
gas
bar
and
the
cannabis
production
facility
to
the
land.
Use
is
prohibited
and
at
a
minimum,
soft
landscape
buffer
of
5
meters
along
there
of
a
road
and
slack
road
to
the
provisions
in
column,
5
carry
good
so
on
the
item
as
amended.
A
A
L
I
did
have
a
few
questions
for
staff.
I
had
a
chance
to
speak
with
mr.
Finley
yesterday,
and
it
was
a
useful
conversation,
but
I
just
want
to
ask
a
few
clarifying
questions
at
a
couple.
Calm.
It's
the
first
one
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
on
the
report
that
the
30%
only
applies
to
CDP's
after
June
2009.
That's
correct!
That's.
P
Correct
there
are,
there
are
a
number
of
policies
in
a
number
of
sections
of
the
plan
that
deal
with
this
percentage
of
residents.
The
one
that's
generally
applies
to
the
urban
area
applies
to
CDP's.
After
that
date
there
are
specific
ones
that
apply
to
specific
areas
of
expansion,
areas
added
through
OPI
76.
So
that's
the
reason
for
a
number
of
different
amendments
throughout
the
Official
Plan,
but
it.
P
So
so,
there's
there's
a
number
of
sections
in
the
Official
Plan
that
needed
to
be
amended
to
implement
this,
because
it's
a
duplicated
policy
dealing
with
specific
areas,
but
you're
generally
correct
that
for
the
general
rural
area,
sorry,
the
German
urban
area
of
the
city.
This
policy
only
applies
to
CDP's
after
that
date,
so.
L
L
P
Is
a
it's
an
agreed
percentage
that
we
have
already
implemented
through
a
number
of
amendments
to
the
Official
Plan?
These
is
the
percentage
basically
came
out
as
a
result
of
the
CDP's
done
for
a
number
of
communities,
so
that
was
what
the
industry
was
able
to
get
and
meet
the
density
that
we
also
require
in
those
areas.
So
it
we
felt
it
reasonable
to
make
it
a
citywide
standard.
Now
it
may
well
be
reviewed
through
the
new
office
plan
weed.
That's
that's
coming
down
the
pond!
So.
L
B
L
It's
just
interesting
because
we
have
two
active
development
proposals
in
Statesville
right
now,
one
of
them
the
lead
concern
from
residents,
is
around
whether
or
not
townhomes
is
an
appropriate
form,
given
that
it's
an
existing
single-family
development
and
it's
how
important
is
keeping
single-family
homes
as
part
of
the
overall
context
of
the
neighborhood
and
in
another
neighbor
and
another
neighborhood.
It's
almost
the
opposite.
L
It
is
in
a
CDP
and
so
far
there
haven't
been
or
there's
been
too
many
singles
built,
and
so
one
of
the
challenges
is
that
any
new
developments
are
having
trouble
achieving
the
minimum
units
per
hectare.
So
you
can
kind
of
see
in
different
angles
how
these
percentages
are
really
important,
but
and
then
in
the
overall
conversation
about
urban
boundary,
expansion
and
building
communities
that
are
sustainable
and
affordable
for
the
city
to
service,
like
it's
a
difficult
number
to
come
up
with
and
be
interesting
to
see
how
you
approach
to
having
the
Official
Plan
recommendations.
A
Was
had
the
same
kind
of
thinking
along
the
same
lines
this
morning,
so
I
asked
the
question
of.
Are
we
stuck
with
this
amount
in
suburban
communities?
Every
suburban
developer
will
tell
you
what's
driving
growth
in
our
city?
Is
immigration?
It's
new
Canadians,
it's
nothing
else
than
that
and
they
want
large
single
homes
and
without,
without
one
exception
anytime.
There
is
a
new
development
in
any
of
our
suburban
communities.
The
people
sleeping
over
are
for
the
single
homes,
no
one's
sleeping
over
to
get
a
townhome
okay.
A
So
if
you
have
80
Lots
that
are
released,
four
singles
people
are
in
camps
for
at
least
three
days,
waiting
to
buy
those
Lots
and
most
of
them-
and
this
is
the
this-
is
the
industry
that
has
said
most
of
them
are
new
Canadians
or
they're
people
that
have
been
here
raising
their
family,
but
they
still
want
to
have
that
larger
family
experience
in
their
home
and
they
they
want
their
own
property.
So
it's
a
reality
that
we
have
so
my
question
is
I.
A
G
Thanks
counselor
me
and
had
to
leave
the
meeting,
but
she
did
ask
me
to
to
pass
on
the
following
counselor
me
and
yep.
So
her
concern
is
that,
as
we
see
fewer
singles
that
there's
the
potential
for
an
exacerbation
of
parking
difficulties,
our
Lavoie
already
has
congestion
islands
new
residential
street,
because
homes
are
being
built
with
driveways
that
can
barely
fit
one
vehicle
and
four,
you
know
I
think
counselor.
You
may
have
already
dealt
with
some
of
this
in
the
building.
G
Better
suburbs
are
being
built
with
drivers,
it
barely
fit
one
vehicle
forcing
many
two
or
even
three
vehicle
families
to
park
on
the
road
leads
to
parking.
Complaints
requires
staff
time
for
by
law
to
enforce
parking
restrictions.
Many
Lots
are
already
small.
Reducing
single
unit
dwellings
will
allow
developers
to
squeeze
even
more
people
into
smaller
spaces.
G
She
is
wondering
whether
staff
would
take
as
a
direction
and
I'm
open
to
your
guidance
on
this,
a
request
to
review
what
Planning,
Committee
and
City
Council
need
to
do
to
change
our
requirements
for
the
size
of
driveways
and
what
options,
if
any,
is
the
city
looking
at
to
alleviate
community
parking
issues?
Such
as
community
parking,
lots
or
other
techniques
to
reduce
residence
parking
on
residential
streets,
so.
A
Fortunately,
we
have
mr.
Allen
megaliths
here,
who
was
the
chief
architect
on
the
bureaucrats
side
of
the
building,
better
smarter
suburbs,
along
with
myself
and
councillor
Blake
councillor
hubely,
councillor
Kadri,
and
we
have
that
information.
We
have
the
weekend
share
with
her
the
thought
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
etc,
etc
and
AB.
The
pressures
that
she's,
identifying
or
pressures
that
we
know
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
successful
in
doing
with
BBS
s,
was
being
able
to
plant
trees
and
now
we're
back
to
having
a
problem
with
that
again.
A
So
you
think
that
you've
got
problems
with
trees.
Imagine
a
landscape
with
no
trees
and
they're
back
to
that,
and
we
spent
two
years
on
that
on
the
trenching
with
utilities.
So
we're
back
wrestling
with
that
again.
But
the
very
principles
of
why,
like
it,
was
honestly,
as
my
idea
like
six
years
ago,
to
come
up
with
we've
got
to
put
a
lens
on
suburban
communities
because
we
haven't
spent
any
time.
It
was
for
these
reasons
that
we
did
so.
D
B
D
But
it
precludes
the
elected
officials
or
the
community.
That's
engaging
in
the
in
the
discussion
during
the
process
of
requiring
them
to
do
more
right.
I
would
prefer
to
have
the
stick
and
give
them
the
carrot
through
negotiation
and
to
simply
give
them
the
carrot
and
need
to
beg
for
my
supper
later.
D
I
agree
like
the
the
the
number
of
townhomes
that
we're
building
in
some
of
these
neighborhoods
in
fairness
is
obscene.
It's
creating
huge
operational
for
snow-clearing,
it's
creating
huge
Hana
Street
parking
issues,
it's
reducing
the
opportunity
for
it's
creating
these
camps.
Basically,
three
four
days
before
before
releases
I
agreed
the
townhomes
move,
but
they
simply
stay
recirculate
within
the
market.
D
So
yeah
there's
a
high
volume
of
sales,
but
it's
recirculating,
recirculating,
recirculating
I,
don't
know
any
Builder
who
hasn't
moved
all
of
their
singles
within
the
time
frame
that
they've
wanted
to
move
them,
not
nor
lean.
So
I,
don't
know
how
it's
working
any
other
neighborhoods
so
in
in
Orleans,
when
Minto
released
encore
when
madame
e
released
Summerside
when
Tamarack
released,
Cardenal,
Creek
and
God
knows
Welles
released
what
the
singles
were
gone
inside
a
week.
D
So
I,
just
I,
don't
buy
the
argument
that
they
can't
move
singles
and
I
know
what
the
operational
problems
are
when
you've
got
that
number
of
towns,
despite
what
we
want,
despite
what
our
goals
and
dreams
are.
Despite
Orleans
having
the
highest
ridership
of
lows,
you
transfer
of
anywhere
even
people
living
in
town
homes
have
two
cars
and
the
more
townhomes
you
build
the
lower
the
price
people
like
me
can
buy
one
or
two
and
I
can
rent
them
out
to
six
students
and
now
they're
six
cars
right.
D
D
What's
the
extra
you're
going
to
give
us
in
exchange
for
that
trade-off,
I
would
prefer
to
have
the
sticks,
so
I
can
get
the
carrot
as
opposed
to
just
giving
them
the
carrot
and
wondering
why
the
things
not
working
properly
so
I
won't
support.
This
amendment
I,
would
prefer
to
keep
the
higher
number
and
do
case-by-case
based
off
a
trade
offs.
If
that's
what
we
need
to
do,
I
get
I,
think
that
gives
the
community
and
us
a
lot
more
power.
D
A
A
Okay,
because
you
know
what
I'm
gonna
tell
you
something
like
Bruce,
I'm
glad
that
you're
here,
because
back
your
predecessor
was
never
believable
every
time
he
would
come
and
speak.
We
would
people
that
were
on
the
Planning
Committee
and
not
many
of
us,
maybe
maybe
Steve
you
were,
would
say:
yep
people
don't
want
to
buy
singles
anymore
and
we
go
okay.
You
know
what
and
that's
the
dichotomy
of
this
city
right
we
have
and
and
and
like
as
we
go
forward
with
the
Official
Plan.
You
cannot
pigeonhole
anything.
A
What
happens
in
a
in
a
in
a
particular
part
does
not
happen
in
any
other
part.
We
have
a
great
commonality
between
Canada
Orleans
Cumberland.
You
know
bar
Haven
Riverside
South
Statesville.
We
do
okay,
but
you
have
nothing
in
common
with
what
you
guys
have
okay
so-
and
this
is
we
get
into
this
all
the
time
and
then
there's
the
whole
rural
nuance.
If
you
will
and
what
I
like
about
where
we're
going
is
at
least
there's
a
recognition
of
reality
of
what
the
industry
knows.
A
Sometimes
I
think
in
this
case
I
was
told
by
members
of
the
industry
this
morning
and
by
staff.
That
is
because
it's
not
fixing
it,
it's
not
30.
So
if
it's
not
30
and
it
can
be
something
else,
why
do
we
have?
Why
are
we
doing
it
like?
Why
do
we
have
to
do
it?
What
mr.
menges?
Why
do
you
need
us
to
do
this
because.
B
B
B
Madam
chair,
this,
as
with
any
official
plan
amendment,
this
is
open
to
the
discretion
of
the
committee.
However,
I
concur
with
what
mr.
McGillis
said.
This
came
out
of
the
discussions
with
the
industry
on
OPA
150,
OPA
180.
The
reason
it
wasn't
brought
forward
in
the
to
settlement
reports
that
occurred
on
that
is
that
this
policy
was
not
addressed
in
those
amendments
and
could
not
be
handled
by
a
modification
before
the
tribunal.
It
required
a
separate
OPA
with
the
standard
public
consultation
process,
and
that
is
why
it
is
before
you
today.
A
G
D
P
Just
going
to
say
that
we've
already
done
this
for
large
parts
of
the
expansion
areas
that
were
added
through
OPA
76,
the
industry
came
back
to
us
when
we
did
the
community
design
plans
for
those
areas,
and
the
number
of
30%
is
not
arbitrary.
It's
based
on
plans
where
they've
worked
through
the
layouts
for
these
communities.
They've
looked
at
the
intensification
target
that
we
have
for
those
areas
and
the
density
that
we're
requiring
for
residential
development
and
to
do
the
to
mix.
P
P
What
they
were
proposing
came
to
thirty
point,
one
three
or
something
like
that.
So
that's
the
reason
why
we
settled
for
thirty,
and
we
have
made
those
amendments
already
in
three
areas
of
the
city
when
we
were
dealing
with
the
industry
on
the
appeals,
one
of
the
things
that
they
were
hanging.
Their
hat
on
in
the
appeals
was
getting.
This
standardize
across
the
city.
Unfortunately
it
was
not.
It
was
not
an
appealed
matter
and
therefore
could
not
be
dealt
with
by
the
board
or
the
l-pad.
P
L
I
actually
think
we
should
not
refer
it
to
staff
I
would
encourage
committee
members
if
you're
concerned
about
this
to
do
it
have
a
call
with
mr.
Finley.
It's
more
of
a
formalization
of
a
number
of
agreements
through
O
pas
that
we've
already
been
involved
in
the
idea
of
minimum
percentages
for
singles
or
towns
or
apartments
is
worth
a
broader
discussion,
but
I
think
it's
out
of
the
context
of
the
report.
That's
before
us.
If
you
still
have
concerns
after
talking
to
mr.
L
Finley
between
now
and
counsel,
maybe
that's
the
time
to
send
it
back
to
staff,
but
I
I
think
well
without
boring
us
all
to
death
with
OPA
after
OPA
I.
Don't
think
it's
worth
sending
it
back
and
I
think
what
they've
put
in
front
of
us
is
is
reasonable
to
formalize
discussions
that
have
had
been
happening
for
a
number
of
years
and.
A
It
has
the
flexibility
if
needed
as
well.
Okay,
so
on
the
item,
harry
dissent
by
a
councillor
play
okay.
Thank
you.
I
think
that
is
it.
Is
that
it,
madam
committee
coordinator,
all
right:
does
anybody
have
any
notices
of
motion
any
enquiries,
any
other
business,
we're
two
meetings
away
from
Christmas
I?
Think
you
have
the
28th
and
the
28th
is
a
large
agenda.
Oh.
D
A
D
A
And
then
we
have
the
one,
the
joint
one,
which
is
really
super
important
right.
What
putting
it
off
to
where
we
have.
We
have
a
motion
that
we're
following
yeah
of
Iraq
and
and
planning
committee:
no
we're
doing
it
on
December,
the
9th.
That's
what
he's
ready
for
okay
March!
Are
you
on
holidays
and
March,
or
something
yeah?
Well,
then?
Okay,
that's
it
adjourned
until
the
28th,
then
we
have
the
9th
and
I
guess
we
have
the
13th
or
the
14th
12.