►
From YouTube: Planning Committee - September 8, 2022
Description
Planning Committee - September 8, 2022
Agenda and supporting documents available at www.ottawa.ca/agendas
C
C
C
It's
it's
stan.
I've
said
this
before
so
it's
repetitive
to
all
the
you
know
ones
and
twos
of
viewers
that
we
have
out
there.
But
it's
it's
a
stamped
piece
of
the
carrier:
dome
roof,
oh
yeah,
because
they
they
replaced
the
roof
in
2020
and
then
they
sold
off
bits
of
it
and
because,
like
my
son
played
in
a
basketball
camp
under
that
dome
roof,
and
then
we've
been
to
a
bunch
of
games
under
that
roof.
So
it
was
kind
of
a
cool
thing
to
grab
onto
excellent.
A
A
A
Thank
you
kelly.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
listed
as
items
4.1,
5.2,
5.3,
5.4
and
5.5
on
today's
agenda.
For
the
items
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal.
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal.
A
Are
there
any
declarations
of
interests
today,
I'm
seeing
none
confirmation
of
minutes
we're
actually
going
to
the
minutes
for
the
last
meeting
we're
going
to
deal
with
on
september
22nd.
So
we
can
skip
that
item
postponements
and
deferrals.
We
have
a
deferral
4.1
on
the
agenda
appeal
with
respect
to
official
plan
amendment
and
zoning
by-law
amendment
1186,
1188
and
1194
wellington
street
west.
We're
going
to
hold
this
item,
I
know
councillor
leeper
has
a
motion
we'll
introduce
that
motion
when
we
come
back
to
it.
So
we'll
hold
this
item
for
now.
A
E
A
C
Whereas
in
accordance
with
the
planning
act
and
see
ottawa
official
plan,
public
notification
of
official
plan
and
zoning,
vital
amendments
is
required
for
statutory
republic
meetings
and
whereas
proper
notice
needs
to
be
provided
at
least
10
days
prior
to
statutory
public
meeting,
and
whereas
staff
have
identified
that
certain
email
addresses
did
not
receive
notification
of
the
item
on
the
agenda.
Pursuant
to
the
act
and
city
policy.
A
Okay
item
number
5.2,
actually
5.2
and
5.3
are
basically
the
same.
Address.
5.2
is
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
70
and
74
nicholas
street
5.3
is
an
application
to
alter
70
nicholas
street,
a
property
designated
under
part
4
of
the
ontario
heritage
act.
This
is
in
rito.
Vanier
is
councillor
fleury
online
with
us,
because
I
believe
he
has
a
oh
hi
matt.
So
there's
no
public
delegations
registered,
I
believe,
there's
a
technical
amendment
to
this
and
councillor
fleury
has
a
direction
to
staff.
C
nicholas
to
create
a
new
exception
and
to
remove
the
subject
property
from
the
heritage
overlay
in
order
to
permit
construction
of
a
21-story,
mixed-use,
building,
incorporating
the
city
registry
office,
a
designated
heritage
building
and
whereas
city
staff
identified
errors
and
document
two
details
of
recommended
zoning.
Therefore
we
resolve
the
document
two
for
this
report
be
replaced
with
the
enclosed
revised
document.
Two
details
recommended
zoning
and
then
you
were
circulated.
There
is
a.
There
is
a
an
addendum
to
the
report
to
the
motion
that
has
the
the
new
documents
you
recommend
zoning.
I
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
are
there
any
requests
from
counselors
to
hold
this
item
for
discussion
at
all?
No
okay.
I
know
we
do
have
a
representative
from
cadillac
fairview
corporation
here,
aaron
cameron,
aaron.
If
the
committee
is
prepared
to
carry
the
staff
recommendations
as
amended,
do
you
wish
to
speak
to
the
item
today.
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
on
the
technical
amendment
that
chair
moffat
introduced
is
that
carried
okay,
okay
and
then
the
on
the
staff
recommendations
for
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
70
and
74
nicholas
street
as
amended?
Is
that
carried
carrier
carried
carried
okay
and
then
item
5.3
the
application
to
alter
70
nicholas
street
a
property
designated
under
part
four
of
the
ontario
heritage
act?
Are
the
report
recommendations
carried.
E
A
A
I
actually
think
we
could
probably
deal
with
this
item
very
quickly
right
now,
if
counselors
would
be
okay
with
that
and
give
jane
brammer
from
rothwell
heights,
just
a
chance
to
say
a
few
quick
words
and
then
I
know
miguel
tremblay
wants
to
address
committee
quickly
as
well.
So
if
everyone's
okay
with
that,
it's
a
little
bit
outside
of
our
usual
procedure,
but
I
think
we
could
deal
with
it
very
efficiently
here
now
kelly
do
we
have
jane
brammer
logged
in.
A
E
E
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
rothwell
heights
property
owners
association,
which
is
the
community
association
representing
the
residents
in
the
residential
zone
on
the
north
side
of
the
subject
site.
We
strongly
support
the
planners
report
and
do
not
support
the
applicant's
proposed
rezoning
application
or
its
associated
development
plans.
We
agree
with
city
planners
and
with
the
udrp
that
the
applicant's
proposed
tower
height
of
26
stories
is
inappropriate
in
scale
and
massing
for
this
suburban
location.
E
Our
concerns
were
outlined
in
a
12-page
report
submitted
to
the
city
on
the
9th
of
july
2021
during
the
public
consultation
period
for
this
file.
This
report
has
been
submitted
to
planning
committee
for
this
meeting
and
for
the
record,
our
concerns
have
been
based
on
advice
from
a
professional
planner.
E
One
major
concern
is
insufficient
lot
depth
for
appropriate
transition
from
a
tower
of
this
height
to
the
abutting
and
nearby
residential
properties.
The
combined
lot
depth
for
this
site
is
76.98
meters
significantly
greater
lot.
Depth
is
needed
for
tall
buildings
in
order
to
respect
the
45
degree
angular
plane
cited
in
the
urban
design
guidelines
for
high-rise
buildings.
E
E
We
further
noted
the
nearest
lrt
transit
stations
are
at
a
distance
of
1.8
kilometers.
The
surrounding
area
has
the
lowest
walkability
score
by
the
city's
own
assessment
and
again,
as
per
the
planner's
report.
Even
though
montreal
road
is
an
arterial
main
street
and
a
transit
priority
corridor,
no
specific
date
to
implement
measures
that
will
reduce
the
obstacles
faced
by
a
transit
user
has
been
identified
together.
These
factors
will
result
in
building
future
building
occupants
being
unavoidably
dependent
on
private
vehicles.
E
Redevelopment
of
this
part
of
montreal
road
will
happen
and
will
bring
increased
density
and
heights
of
buildings.
We
realize
this.
The
am
10
permitted.
Maximum
height
of
nine
stories
has
been
judged
by
the
city
to
be
the
appropriate
vision
to
help
meet
intensification
targets,
while
still
being
compatible
with
the
suburban
character
of
the
surrounding
area.
This
is
the
city's
vision
for
the
planned
function
of
the
area.
A
26-story
tower
is
not
part
of
that
vision.
A
K
K
Miguel
good
morning,
thank
you.
So
I
I'll
be
very
brief.
I'm
here
with
rod,
leahy
and
tim
v,
but
to
that
they're
available
to
respond
to
questions
if
you
have
any.
I
I'm
fully
aware
that
my
comments
to
the
committee
today
are
in
the
context
of
a
refusal
report,
which
is
unusual,
but
it's
that's
in
large
part
in
response
to
an
appeal
that
we
filed
for
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal.
K
Despite
staff's
comments
in
the
report,
we
have
been
fully
engaged
and
we
have
provided
design,
materials
and
and
design
studies
to
the
city,
and
we
have
consistently
been
of
the
opinion
that
the
proposal
for
a
26-story
tower
on
a
four-story
podium
is
actually
the
best
design
approach
for
this
property.
You
know,
as
ted
forebear
always
used
to
say
just
because
we
didn't
do
what
you
asked
doesn't
mean.
K
We
didn't
listen
to
you
as
I
go
forward,
though
I
wouldn't
mind
if
you
could
pull
up
my
presentation
kelly
and
go
immediately
to
slide
number
seven,
which
is
the
site
plan
and
it'll
help
guide.
Some
of
my
my
comments.
I'm
deliberately
skipping
over
all
of
the
the
policy
slides
they're
in
slide
number
seven,
which
is
the
site
plan,
but
I
do
want
to
spend
thank
you.
I
do
want
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
summarizing
the
the
designations
and
the
policies
given
that
the
application
was
submitted
in
september
2021.
K
The
zoning
bylaw
is
being
considered
under
the
current
and
enforce
official
plan,
but
I
can
advise
the
committee
that
the
proposal
for
the
26th
story
billing
along
montreal
road
is
also
fully
in
keeping
with
the
council
approved
draft
new
official
plan
now
permitting
heights
of
up
to
40
stories.
Given
the
width
of
the
roadway,
I
want
to
make
a
few
points
related
to
the
current
op.
K
First
and
foremost,
despite
the
staff
report,
the
entire
property,
which
includes
both
lots,
are
designated
arterial
main
street.
There
is
very
clear
policy
interpretation
sections
in
europe
that
that
give
us
that
direction.
Second,
the
arterial
main
street
designation
is
a
target
area
for
intensification.
K
It
promotes
compact
development,
mixed-use
buildings
and
yes,
there
is
an
as
of
right
consideration
of
nine
stories.
Having
said
that,
there
are
very
specific
policies
in
section
three,
six:
three,
it's
a
locational
criteria
as
to
when
the
city
should
evaluate
opportunities
for
high
rise,
given
that
this
property
is
at
the
intersection
of
an
arterial
main
street.
K
Montreal
road
is
an
arterial
main
street.
It's
an
arterial
road
and
it's
a
transit
priority
corridor.
Blair
road
is
a
collector
road
and
a
transit
priority
corridor
that
does
provide
access
to
the
gloucester
center
lrt
station.
Yes,
it
is
1.8
kilometers
removed
from
this
site,
but
the
city
recently
approved
the
transportation
committee
recently
approved
the
montreal
blair
road
transit
priority
corridor
environmental
study
report,
which
proposed
functional
design,
changes
to
this
exact
intersection
to
prioritize
transit,
cycling
and
pedestrian
movements.
K
These
types
of
studies
are
in
complete
response
to
potential
development
applications
along
arterial
main
street
corridors,
and
I
I
understand
that
the
city
doesn't
have
a
timing
for
the
construction
of
those
improvements,
but
these
are
the
kind
of
projects
that
incentivize
the
city
to
build
those
transit
measures.
I
didn't
show
you
the
air
photo
because
I
skipped
over
it,
but
this
is
actually
the
only
property
at
this
intersection
that
could
accommodate
a
high-rise
tower.
K
The
other
properties
are
either
too
shallow,
too
far
removed
from
the
intersection
or
it's
all
nrc
ownership
on
the
on
the
west
side.
So
in
short,
the
the
the
proposal
fully
meets
the
policy
direction
of
the
arterial
main
street,
and
that
includes
the
planned
function
as
jane
pointed
out,
but
I
also
want
to
speak
to
the
issue
of
building
transition,
because
the
arterial
mainstream
policies,
don't
say
you
can
do
high-rise
wherever
you
want.
K
It
says
you
can
do
it
if
you
transition
properly
to
existing
low-rise
neighborhoods,
so
I'll
speak
to
both
the
front
and
the
back,
because
staff
took
an
issue
with
the
transition
and
the
the
presence
of
the
building
along
montreal
road.
But
I
find
it
unfortunate
that
the
staff
report
doesn't
recognize
that
the
reason
we're
asking
for
some
relief
from
the
setbacks
along
montreal
road
is
because
we
only
have
40
meters
of
frontage,
and
most
of
it
is
curved.
K
A
K
So
in
term,
the
other
issue
that
staff
took
was
the
transition,
so
the
tower
setback
is
actually
32
meters
from
the
power
from
the
rear
property
line,
whereas
the
four-story
podium
is
22
meters
from
the
rear
property
line
in
in
response
to
jane's
comments,
this
committee
considers
high-rise
projects,
often
on
traditional
main
streets.
I
recognize
those
are
more
urban
sites,
but
the
average
depth
of
a
traditional
main
street
property
is
30
meters.
K
The
setback
for
the
tower
is
30
meters
on
this
site,
so
the
depth
of
this
property
is
ideally
fair
or
is
ideal
for
an
appropriate
transition
so
in.
In
summary,
we
think
that
this
proposal
meets
the
arterial
main
street
policies.
It
provides
a
very
comfortable
transition
better
than
most
sites.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
it
meets
the
city's
urban
design
guidelines
and
we
would
encourage
the
the
committee
to
consider
approving
the
zoning
by
law
amendment
as
per
the
details
in
the
in
the
staff
report.
B
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
members
of
committee.
I
will
keep
it
very
brief.
I
want
to
thank
not
only
gene
braymar
of
the
local
rothwall
heights,
the
property
owners
association.
We
had
over
300
comments.
We
had
many
many
people
take
part
within
the
discussions
we
saw.
You
know
a
udrp
and
granted
udrp
is
udrp,
come
back
with
a
very
similar
aligned
comments
that
were
not
nimby
that
were
very
concerned
about
what's
happening.
B
This
association
does
terrific
work
and
we've
worked
with
miguel
and
other
projects
in
the
past
that
have
been
very
quite
successful
with
foten.
This
is
just
one
that
unfortunately,
doesn't
meet.
What
what
the
community
scale
is.
I
do
want
to
thank
city
staff.
I
do
want
to
thank,
obviously
the
people
that
have
been
involved.
We've
been
meeting
for
a
year
on
a
regular
basis
as
a
subcommittee,
not
knowing
what
we
were
going
to
do.
We
were
going
to
have
about
30
or
40
people
come
in
as
speakers
today.
B
I'm
sure
members
of
committee
are
happy
that
that
is
not
the
case.
We
have
actually
worked
closely
and
professionally
with
gene
and
her
crew
to
have
jane,
as
the
representative
spokesperson
for
hundreds
of
people
within
the
community
and
to
to
miguel
and
foten.
Thank
you
for
your
professionalism.
This
has
been.
This
is
something
that
people
should
look
at
when
it
comes
to
planning
applications
to
keep
it
professional.
Keep
the
discussions
on
peace,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
members
of
committee
for
supporting
the
refusal
of
this
application.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
tim
and
thank
you
to
to
jane
and
miguel
for
your
presentations.
Today
we
will
keep
moving
on
through
our
agenda
item
number.
5.5
is
an
alta
vista
award.
It's
a
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
2254,
2262,
2270,
rayside
avenue
and
2345
alta
vista
drive.
There
are
no.
Actually,
there
are
public
delegations.
I
missed
that.
So
we
will
hold
this
item.
A
Item
number
six:
finance
services
department,
a
treasurer's
report
on
2021
growth,
related
revenues,
there's
no
delegations,
no
presentation
and
no
correspondence.
Is
this
report
received
received
received?
Thank
you,
okay,
so
that
takes
us
through
our
consent
agenda.
We
will
go
back
to
the
first
item,
which
was
item
4.1.
I
Thank
you
very
much
chair
colleagues
still
recall.
I
guess.
A
few
months
ago
the
1186
1194
16
story
at
the
corner
of
parkdale
and
wellington
came
before
this
committee.
We
expressed
some
significant
discomfort
with
the
height
with
the
way
in
which
it
is
at.
You
know
that
incredibly
congested
corner,
and
we
had
a
lot
of
sympathy
for
the
arguments
of
the
community
who
came
before
us
who
spoke
about
the
vision
for
our
traditional
main
streets
at
a
mid-rise
height.
I
My
ask
today
is
that
we
refuse
the
application
or
we
instruct
our
legal
staff
to
defend
a
decision
to
refuse
the
application,
and
I
have
a
motion
to
that
effect.
I
would
ask
that
it
go
on
screen.
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
so
it
does
not
meet
the
intent
of
the
official
plan
of
the
wellington
street
secondary
plan,
therefore
be
it
resolved.
I
The
planning
committee
amend
the
report
to
replace
the
recommendations
with
the
following
one:
that
planning
committee
recommend
the
council
instruct
legal
services
to
oppose
the
approval
of
the
zoning
and
official
plan.
Amendment
sought
in
the
appeal
in
respect
of
1186,
1188
and
1194
wellington
west,
and
be
further
resolved
that
legal
services
staff
be
directed
to
work
with
the
ward
councillor's
office
to
prepare
a
written
explanation
for
the
decision
to
oppose
the
zoning
and
official
plan
amendments
for
adoption
by
council
prior
to
the
council
meeting
of
september
21st
2022.
I
I
would
anticipate
that
if
this
motion
passes,
the
the
reasons
that
we
set
out
will
revolve
around
our
clear
direction
as
a
city
council,
as
a
planning
committee
for
mid-rise
heights
on
our
traditional
main
streets,
but
certainly
I'll
be
working
closely
with
with
legal
and
planning
staff
and
developing
that
over
the
course
of
the
next
bit.
So
colleagues,
I'm
urging
you
to
vote
in
favor
of
my
motion.
I
A
F
Good
morning,
mr
chair
members
of
committee,
thank
you
I'll,
be
relatively
brief.
I
mean
we
did
have
a
good
discussion
on
this
application
back
in
may
and
presented
our
our
opinion
on
the
application.
Why
we
do
think
it's
appropriate
at
this
traditional
main
street
location
I'll
just
quickly
revisit
those
those
points
which
are
outlined
in
the
staff
report
as
well,
which,
as
a
as
a
reminder,
staff,
do
support
the
the
application.
F
F
The
the
site
also
is
located
at
a
corner
which
the
secondary
plan
policies
do
specifically
note
as
potential
locations
for
additional
building
height,
granted
it's
up
to
nine
stories,
but
we're
relying
on
the
official
plan
which
does
recognize
locations
as
appropriate
for
greater
heights
through
a
secondary
plan
process
and
we've
completed
through
our
planning
rationale
and
submissions.
The
comprehensive
review
required
for
amendments
to
the
secondary
plan
in
line
that
conform
with
the
official
plan.
F
I
do
just
also
want
to
so
mention
that
the
mass
redistribution,
so
the
nine
story
form
in
vision
by
the
secondary
plan,
has
been
redistributed
on
the
site,
which
is
what
has
led
to
the
16
story,
form
the
16
story.
Building
with
six
story,
podium
is
generally
a
redistribution
of
the
nine
story,
form
permitted
in
the
secondary
plan,
which
we
think
lends
itself
to
a
better
design,
ultimately
for
for
the
streets
for
the
main
street,
as
well
as
for
hamilton
and
the
surroundings.
F
A
A
A
G
G
The
subject:
lands
also
known
as
the
st
thomas
campus
outlined
in
pink
along
the
east
side
of
altavista
drive
and
west
side
of
bray
side
avenue,
which
includes
the
saint
thomas,
apostle,
church,
nursery
school,
brie,
side,
house
and
elwood
house
next
slide.
Please,
the
blue
outline
identifies
the
general
location
of
the
proposed
low-rise
residential
expansion
in
relation
to
the
entire
st
compass,
st
thomas
campus,
in
pink.
G
G
From
the
new
op
schedule
b3,
the
subject:
lands
are
shown
as
the
neighborhood
designation,
with
the
within
the
outer
urban
transact
and
next
slide.
Please,
within
the
alta
vista
secondary
plan,
alto
vista
drive
is
identified
for
low
rise
residential
development,
which
runs
along
the
western
boundary
of
the
st
thomas
campus
and
again
the
campus
is
identified
with
the
blue
star
there
next
slide.
G
A
D
D
D
Then
we
have
the
saint
thomas,
the
apostle
church
to
the
south
of
that
followed
by
the
st
thomas,
the
apostle
nursery
school
and
then
to
the
east
of
that
is
the
existing
elwood
house.
So
the
previous
slide
had
a
photo
of
that
and
at
the
southwest
corner.
There's
the
ottawa
fire
station,
which
is
just
to
the
south
of
the
saint
thomas
campus
and
then
existing
residential
alongside
so
bracelet
avenue,
is
on
the
east
and
alta
vista
drive
is
on
the
west
of
the
property
next
slide.
L
L
With
regards
to
parking,
the
parking
has
been
reorganized
and
expanded
a
bit,
so
we
don't
meet
the
the
requirements
for
the
entire
campus.
That
is
all
all
one.
Two,
three
four
five
five
buildings,
as
well
as
the
the
bicycle
parking
you'll,
also
note
that
all
the
parking
is
is
not
seen
from
grayside
avenue,
but
it's
on
the
internal
side
of
the
site
and
that's
in
keeping
with
the
attitude
of
being
a
good
neighbor
with
with
regards
to
vehicular
circulation.
L
L
It
is
because
we're
looking
at
we're
using
the
existing
garbage
room
with
with
regards
to
trees
and
soft
landscaping,
and
this
is
always
a
touchy
subject.
We
are
removing
11
trees
to
have
this
development
happen,
but
we
are.
We
have
37
new
trees
on
site.
We
are
relocating
one
existing
tree
and
there
are
a
number
of
shrubs.
So
the
dark,
colored
green
on
this
site
plant
illustrate
the
new
trees
and
the
light
green
are
the
are
the
existing
trees.
A
E
E
We've
worked
very
hard
with
the
with
the
elwood
host
board
and
with
the
project
team,
to
try
and
and
make
this
extension
as
as
positive
as
possible,
not
only
for
the
community
members
for
the
campus
itself
and,
of
course,
in
support
of
the
seniors
and
affordable
housing
which
is
so
desperately
needed
in
the
city.
So
we're
very,
very
pleased
with
the
the
project
and
the
site
plan.
A
E
M
M
N
Clutier,
thank
you
very
much
chair
and
thank
you,
janice
and
and
kathy
nice
to
see
both
of
you
again
and-
and
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
the
time
and
the
work
of
getting
the
project
to
this
point
there's
still
work
to
do.
We
we
met
on
this
prior
to
the
prior
to
my
election
in
in
2014,
when
I
was
president
of
the
community
association,
not
so
much
the
planning
issues,
but
the
funding
issues
and
and
the
projects
as
a
whole.
N
N
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Well
I
found
myself
in
a
unique
position.
I
live
across
the
street
from
from
elwood
house
and
indeed
we're
looking
forward
to
this
this
project,
but
introducing
this
type
of
infill
development
into
an
existing
neighborhood
takes
a
little
bit
of
finesse,
and
I
wanted
to
just
touch
on
one
small
point
that
I
think
they
that
needs
some
attention
and
that's
with
the
the
recommendation
that
the
campus
be
one
lot
for
for
zoning
purposes
and,
in
principle,
excellent
idea.
B
The
right
the
right
thing
to
do,
because,
as
your
staff
report
recommends,
that
one
lot
for
zoning
purposes
will
make
should
make
the
overall
site
better
and
and
that's
important,
it
needs
to
be
better
and,
unfortunately,
some
of
the
decisions
that
seem
to
be
made
being
made
on
on
the
site
aren't
going
to
make
it
better,
for
certainly
the
residents
of
of
bray
side
avenue
and,
I
think,
violates
some
of
council's
directions
to
staff.
And
let
me
give
you
just
one
small
example
of
where
I
think
this
is.
B
This
doesn't
make
the
situation
better.
If
you
look
on
the
north
side
of
the
of
the
site
plan
and
mr
pelitzer
referenced
one
of
the
new
in
egresses
into
into
the
site,
that's
a
new!
That's
going
to
be
a
new
connection
to
the
broader
site.
It
connects
now
to
a
small
house
for
developmentally
challenged
adults,
it's
quite
a
great
place,
but
in
realigning
that
that
entrance
to
create
that
in
and
out
you
actually
have
to
cut
down
a
mature
city
tree
and
there's
the
rub.
B
Quite
frankly,
your
staff
are
very
diligent
in
telling
me
in
my
professional
capacity
you
can't
cut
down
city
trees,
in
fact
the
application
you
considered
at
your
last
planning
committee
meeting
on
three
basano
before
I
was
able
to
bring
my
zoning
to
to
committee
for
consideration.
I
was
told
I
had
to
protect
that
tree
and
I
couldn't
cut
it
down
for
a
for
in
essentially
a
driveway.
B
You
also,
you
also
recall,
that's
been
in
the
news,
75
grant
and
we
asked
the
same
thing:
can
we
cut
down
a
tree
for
a
driveway?
The
answer
was
absolutely
no,
but
it
seems
in
this
case
we're
prepared
to
sacrifice
a
mature
city
tree
for
a
driveway,
and
I
understand
that
you're
going
to
plant
more
but
a
large,
healthy,
mature
tree
replaced
by
50
millimeter
saplings.
Just
just
doesn't
really
it
doesn't
really
make
the
streetscape
better.
B
I
guess
is,
is
my
point
and
I'm
sure
that
you'll
hear
and
and
when
I
was
in
your
position,
I
heard
it
too.
There
were
a
million
reasons
why
things
couldn't
happen.
Why
you?
You
had
to
do
it,
why
you
know
whether
it's
emergency
vehicles
or
oh,
you
know-
and
I
think
in
this
instance
when
you're
creating
one
lot
for
zoning
purposes
for
the
purposes
of
making
the
streetscape
and
the
site
plan
better.
B
You
you
shouldn't
give
in
to
those
sort
of,
I
guess
standard
excuses.
You
should
actually
be
saying
to
the
applicant.
Listen
you
got
to
do
better,
you
you
need
to
you
need
to
protect
those
those
assets,
and
you
know
we
all
follow
city
council's
decisions.
You
know
the
40
percent
tree
canopy,
the
climate
emergency.
B
You
know
to
accept
the
development
short
welcome
it
embrace
it,
but
you
know
what
you
need
to
take
a
couple
of
steps
to
make
things
better
for
the
for
the
residents
to
live
along
bray,
side
avenue
and-
and
you
know
I
could-
I
could
talk
about
whether
the
access
is
really
needed
either.
Access
on
bracelet
avenue
is
really
needed,
but
you
know,
mr
chairman,
four,
for
the
purposes
of
of
this
discussion.
I
really
just
think
that
you
know
a
statement
from
a
plan
committee
that
says
you
know
what
we
recognize.
B
I
B
B
I
I
think
you
could,
because
right
now,
the
entrance
to
the
parking
lot
of
that
facility
is
curved
around
that
tree.
I
I
don't
know
why
you
can't
use
that
you
know
I'm
sure
you'll
you'll
hear
that
the
the
private
approach
by
law
and
and
there's
ever
there's
any
number,
I'm
sure
of
regulations.
That
might
say
you
can't,
but
I
think
you
can.
B
I
think
a
little
creativity
is
is
what's
needed
here
and
whether
it's
a
smaller,
maybe
it's
that
maybe
it
needs
to
be
three
meters
or
maybe
you
know,
which
is
the
size
of
driveways-
that
you
will
see
in
your
neighborhoods.
I
certainly
think
it
can
can
be
done.
I
mean
I'd
love
to
to
think
that
the
the
applicant
would
go
back
and
ask
do
they
really
actually
ever
need
these
accesses,
because
I
think
you
could
create
a
a
beautiful
tree-lined
streetscape
along
bray
side,
and
that
would
be
a
benefit.
B
But
you
know
what
that
that
ship
has
probably
sailed,
because
we
do
have
an
existing
one.
That
works
quite
fine
so,
but
I
think
it
can
be
done.
Okay
and
thanks
again
just
to
follow
your
staff,
often
tell
tell
applicants
like
look
at
find
a
way
to
protect
that
tree,
and
you
know
we
do
you'll
see
hopefully
in
the
near
future,
one
that,
where
you
know
no
one
thought
we
could
protect
the
tree
and
and
you're
doing
that,
because
you've
been
because
you've
been
given
clear
direction
by
your
staff.
I
N
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you
jeff
and
thank
you.
Thank
you
peter
for
your
always
thoughtful
and
productive
comments
on
on
city
planning
files
and
and
yes,
we
we
did
speak
yesterday.
He
and
I
you
and
I
peter
and
I've
exchanged
with
staff,
and
I
apologize
there's
a
phone
going
off
and
spoke
with
staff
yesterday,
and
they
are
going
to
propose
an
option
that
that
does
look
to
saving
that
linden
tree.
N
That
peter
is
is
referring
to,
and
so,
when
we
get
to
to
staff,
I
will
I
will
be
providing
some
direction
to
adjust
the
design
to
at
site
plan
so
that
the
policies
that
peter
was
referring
to
the
importance
of
trees
of
mature
trees
and
the
responsibility
of
developers
and
development
to
preserve
those
trees
is
is
respected.
So
peter.
Thank
you
for
your
intervention.
N
A
N
I
I
think
counselor
clutch
may
be
going
down
the
same
road
that
I'm
thinking,
but
as
I
want
to
get
staffs
and
john,
I'm
not
going
to
steal
your
thunder.
But
I'd
like
staff
to
comment
on
the
tree
matter.
Is
it
possible
to
save
the
tree
and
and
design
or
redesign
the
driveway
to
make
the
project
successful
and
feasible,
but
also
retain
the
tree,
which
should
be
a
main
priority.
G
Thanks
chair
this,
the
the
I'll
just
note
that
the
the
any
approval
for
any
tree
removals
is
done
through
the
site
plan.
So
that
is
a
few
steps
away.
Still
the
alteration
to
the
access
to
the
site
and
protection
of
the
trees
is
something
that
has
been
discussed.
There
are
some
concerns
as
far
as
maneuverability
of
of
larger
emergency
vehicles
or
servicing
in
the
area
underground
servicing.
I
Okay,
I'm
interested
to
learn
in
the
direction
that
counselor
kluche
is
about
to
put
on
the
floor.
I'd
say
that
when
we
approve
zoning
separate
from
the
site
plan,
meaning
when
they're
dealt
separately
and
there's
a
matter
of
time
in
between
both
sometimes
projects
get
so
far
advanced
that
when
you
raise
objections
during
the
site
plan,
it's
almost
too
late.
I
So
I
think
it's
very
important
today
for
the
committee
to
make
a
statement
and
says
yes
we're
willing
to
approve
this
application,
but
here's
our
expectations,
in
particular
with
the
tree
so
I'll
yield
the
florida
to
local
council
because
I
think
he's
going
in
this
direction.
But
I
think
we
have
to
be
very
clear
today
that
we
want
to
retain
this
tree,
whether
it's
part
of
site
plan
or
not,
that
this
remains
a
priority
for
us.
So
thank
you.
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
chair
and,
and
thank
you
councillor
brockington.
Yes,
certainly
at
the
consultations
we
we
we
did
discuss
entry
and
exit
and
and
parking
on
the
site
and
and
unit
configurations
timelines,
and
we
absolutely
discuss
the
environmental
impacts
of
this
and
and
of
the
construction
and
and
the
impact
on
trees.
N
I
do
not
recall
focusing
on
this
specific
tree,
but
it
has
been
highlighted,
and
I
appreciate
that
it
is
a
linden
tree.
It
is
over.
It
is
a
city
tree,
it
is
a
healthy
tree
and
so
it
it
should
be,
it
should
be
preserved
and
I
would
encourage
staff
to
preserve
and-
and
I
appreciate
the
the
discussion
I
had
yesterday
with
kelby
on
this
and
so
chair-
is
it
good
to
provide
direction
now,
because
I
have
no
questions.
I
will
only
have
just
very
brief
closing
comments.
N
So
I
would
like
to
provide
a
direction
to
staff
that
they
explore
in
in
a
diligent
and
a
fruitful
way,
all
the
ways
at
site
plan
that
to
see
that
no
healthy
tree,
no
healthy
city
tree
is
be
removed
to
put
in
a
laneway
for
the
simple
sake
of
a
laneway.
I
don't
know
if
that's
comprehensive
enough
or
clear
enough
for
for
for
for
staff.
That
would
be
my
direction.
N
N
N
All
right
go
right
ahead.
Thank
you.
Well,
elwood
is
has
been
part
of
the
community
for
for
a
long
long
time,
as
you've
heard-
and
I
heard
about
it
quite
a
while
ago-
and
I
sure
do
appreciate
the
commitment
in
this
context
of
the
board
members
volunteer
board
members
to
provide
additional
low-cost
senior
elderly
housing
in
this
wonderful
community.
N
It's
been
a
long
time
coming
again,
not
so
much
because
of
the
planning
aspects
but
funding
aspects-
and
I
know
that's
not
the
purview
of
this
committee,
but
I
just
want
to
say,
as
a
city,
we
need
to
do
better
to
to
bring
these
projects
to
support
the
the
the
residents.
The
organizations
like
the
elwood
house
board,
who
want
to
provide
new
housing
for
for
for
people.
So
I
leave
that
to
my
my
successors,
and
so
those
are
my
comments.
N
I
I
I
support
the
proposal
we
had
a
lot
of,
we
have
consultations
and
and
and
the
community
has
been
kept
informed
and
and
what
is
proposed
today,
notwithstanding
the
treat.
What
is
proposed
today
has
been
adjusted
based
on
some
of
the
some
of
the
comments
that
we
had
heard
in
the
past
few
years,
as
this
was
coming
to
fruition,
and
so
I
would
respectfully
request
my
council
colleagues
to
support
the
applications
to
support
the
staff
recommendation
and
and
move
along
on
the
zoning
for
for
this
property.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
the
report
recommendation
is
that
planning
committee
recommend
council
approve
an
amendment
to
the
zoning
bylaw
for
this
address,
as
shown
in
document
one
to
permit
the
construction
of
a
low-rise
apartment
building
as
detailed
in
document
two.
So
are
the
report.
Are
the
staff
report
recommendations
carried
period?
Okay,
thank
you.
So
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item
that
we
held,
which
is
item,
number
5.6,
the
orleans
corridor
secondary
plan.
A
We
do
have
robin
vandeland
here
who
will
have
a
presentation
for
us
this
spans
two
wards,
orleans,
ward,
1
and
innis
ward
2,
although
those
would
all
get
mixed
up
as
of
november
15th,
there's
a
number
of
technical
motions
and
other
motions,
and
we
do
have
six
delegations,
so
I
think
it'd
be
best
to
introduce
those
motions
right
at
the
start,
because
some
of
the
delegations
may
wish
to
address
those
so
before
we
even
get
to
robin
I'd
like
to
go.
Let's
start
with
our
technical
amendments.
C
Whereas
the
station
core
designation
in
the
orleans
quarter
secondary
plan
is
intended
to
be
the
focal
point
for
services
and
amenities
in
the
vicinity
of
o
train
stations
and
whereas
the
intent
of
section
5.15
is
to
provide
for
active
ground-oriented
frontages
along
streets
through
residential
retail
or
a
mix
of
complementary
uses,
and
whereas
section
5.15
includes
a
test
that
introduces
a
necessary
complexity.
That
does
not
contribute
to
the
desired
outcome.
C
Yes,
whereas
on
an
error
has
been
identified
in
the
orleans
secondary
plan
that
resulted
in
a
number
of
residential
properties
along
general
corridor
as
incorrectly
subject
to
a
maximum
height
schedule,
therefore
be
resolved.
With
respect
to
report
acs
2022
pi
edp0024
plan
can
be
replaced
document
three
schedule
b,
orleans
corridor
maximum
building
heights
with
the
attached
schedule
dated
september
8,
2022.
M
Perfect
so
I'll
read
this
so,
whereas
the
orleans
corridor
secondary
plan
seeks
to
modernize
and
intensify
residential
and
commercial
development
along
saint
joseph
boulevard,
in
line
with
a
new
official
plan,
whereas
many
of
the
properties
alongsio
zeff,
but
existing,
predominantly
two-story
established
neighborhoods,
whereas
intensification
must
fit
with
and
respect
the
existing
carry
character
of
established
neighborhoods
and
whereas
policy
6.6.6
of
the
new
official
plan
directs
development
to
provide
transitions
between
low
medium
and
high
dense
high-rise
development.
In
order
to
allow
for
sensitive
integration
of
new
development
and
policies.
4.6.61
directs.
I
M
Absolutely
I
absolutely
would
love
to
to
share
some
some
background
on
this.
So
a
lot
of
the
work
that
has
gone
into
this
plan
is
absolutely
in
consultation
with
the
community.
There's
been
a
lot
of
efforts
done
by
our
amazing
staff
on
this.
What
this
does
is
just
reminds
staff
that,
as
applications
come
forward
that,
as
per
the
official
plan,
that
we're
looking
at
setbacks
and
step
backs
appropriately
in
conjunction
with
the
abutting
residential
or
commercial
developments.
M
So
it
doesn't
change
or
it
doesn't
make
it
so
that
we
cannot
have
the
heights
that
are
outlined
in
the
plan.
What
it
does
is
it
it
takes
into
consideration
the
need
for
transition,
and
I'm
dealing
with
a
situation
very
similar
to
this
in
one
of
my
communities
where
that
wasn't
taken
into
account
when
the
zoning
was
changed
and
now
there's
very,
very
there's
very,
very
divisive
feelings
on
that
particular
thing.
So
what
this
does
is
it
brings
it
back
to
the
forefront
as
staff
are
considering
applications.
M
A
O
So,
on
behalf
of
the
community
planning
unit,
we're
really
proud
to
bring
forward
this
this
secondary
plan.
This
is
our
first
secondary
plan
issued
under
the
new
official
plan.
Although
we
are
awaiting
ministerial
approval,
we
have
the
five
big
moves
and
the
new
and
the
new
official
plan
and
the
directions
within
it
that
are
consistent
with
the
provincial
policy
statement
and
we're
very
proud
to
bring
this
forward
to
you.
O
O
They
are
15-minute
neighborhoods
development,
own
profits,
development,
around
rapid
transit
enhancements
to
the
public,
realm
parks
and
green
spaces,
prioritization
for
mobility
of
pedestrians
and
cyclists,
and
coordination
of
new
built
form
with
improvements
to
the
public
realm
next
slide.
We
were
very
gratified
with
the
the
amount
of
public
on
input
into
this
particular
plan.
We
had
three
open
houses.
The
first
one
was
we
had
close
to
300
people
attend
at
the
shankman
center.
It
was
quite
something
just
prior
to
the
pandemic.
O
Since
the
pandemic,
we've
had
two
open
houses
online.
Each
was
attended
by
more
than
150
people,
which
is
really
terrific.
The
things
that
we
heard
at
the
at
the
open
houses
were
actually
quite
consistent
with
what
we
heard
during
the
official
plan
review
people.
People
were
very
interested
in
walkability,
a
mixture
of
uses,
good
design,
public
realm
in
the
environment.
O
O
O
You
seek
to
build
new
and
improve
existing
pedestrian
cycling
connections
to
the
stations
into
the
main
street
and
to
provide
an
exceptional
public
realm
to
encourage
walking
and
cycling
across
the
town
center
and
the
main
street
areas
next
slide.
Please,
I
will
just
go
over
this
fairly
quickly.
This
is
the
designation
plan.
O
There
is
not
too
many
changes
since
the
technical
circulation.
I
don't
really
want
to
draw
your
eye
too
much
here,
but
we
are
here
to
answer.
Questions
relating
to
the
designations
associated
with
this
associated
with
this
schedule
is
the
next
slide.
Please,
the
maximum
height
schedule,
I'd
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
the
light
blue
areas.
On
st
joseph,
we,
the
technical
motion
that
we've
brought
forward,
there's
a
number
of
existing
neighborhoods
that
we
realized.
O
O
We
always
had
a
high
high
use
of
transit
usage
within
this
area,
so
it
was
critical
for
us
to
ensure
that
we
didn't
wall
off
or
didn't
create
a
condition
where
we
were
walling
off
station
areas
and
that
existing
neighborhoods
would
then
would
also
benefit
from
redevelopment
through
new
connections
to
the
stations
next
slide.
Please
I'm
now
going
to
go
to
my
colleague,
peter
giles,
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
our
flagship
part
of
the
plan
called
saint
joseph.
P
P
P
One
of
the
recommendations
of
the
report
is
to
approve
the
vision
for
this
complete
street.
That's
outlined
in
the
secondary
plans
document
one
and
in
the
in
annex
b.
That's
the
centrosome
boulevard
concept
plan
you'll,
find
that
in
documents
a
six
b
and
sixteen
the
concept
plan
was
prepared
by
persons
in
collaboration
with
city
staff.
P
This
involved
an
internal
technical
advisory
committee
that
included
staff
from
multiple
departments.
The
study
by
parsons
included
a
detailed
traffic
study.
As
a
result
of
this
analysis,
the
recommendation
is
to
maintain
a
four-lane
cross-section
west
of
zhendock
boulevard,
where
traffic
volumes
are
highest
and
move
to
a
three-lane,
cross-section
east
of
zhendock
boulevard.
P
P
While
the
concept
plan
is
really
quite
detailed,
it
still
needs
a
functional
design
plan,
which
is
an
even
more
detailed
transportation
study
before
these
plans
are
shovel
ready
funding
for
implementation
of
either
the
interim
or
ultimate
condition
is
expected
to
be
sought
through
the
transportation
master
plan
that
wraps
up
our
presentation.
We're
happy
to
take
questions.
Thank
you.
A
Q
Good
good
morning
again,
thank
you
for
the
committee
for
allowing
me
the
opportunity
to
make
some
comments
today.
I'd
like
to
thank
councillor
lulaf
and
staff
for
working
on
this.
This
has
been
somewhat
of
a
larger
exercise,
given
the
fact
that
it's
a
it's
a
larger
secondary
plan
that
I
guess
we
had
thought
about,
but
it's
encompassing
the
whole
the
whole
broadband
area,
some
of
the
items
that
that
are
in
the
report
that
I
received
identify
six
distinct
areas
and
they're.
They
identify
the
four
stations
that
are
currently
being
built.
Q
Jean-Dark
covenant,
glenn,
plast,
orleans
and
trim.
There
are
two
ghost
stations
that
have
not
been
identified
in
the
secondary
plan,
which
I
believe
should
be
identified,
because
this
secondary
plan
is
a
long-term
document.
It's
it
will
be
in
place
for
20
years,
30
years,
as
the
last
one
was,
and
the
the
tenth
line
station
is
important
because
tenth
line
road
is
a
major
arterial
road
that
brings
in
traffic
from
navin
it
it's.
Q
It
is
actually,
in
my
opinion,
a
better
15-minute
community
than
placed
orleans
because
it
has
access
to
the
ray
freya
community
center
and
the
police
station
is
actually
right
across
the
street,
so
it
does
have
some
significant
areas.
It's
actually
also
halfway
between
the
trim
station
and
the
plaster
line
station,
which
makes
it
that
you
can
walk
between
those
two
stations.
Q
Q
A
R
R
A
R
A
A
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
We
have
asked
for
supporting
documents
for
this
change
and
we
have
received
no
answers.
Yet
we
have
62
years
of
knowledge
of
the
land
and
we
disagree
with
the
intent
of
the
city
of
ottawa.
Regarding
our
land,
we
request
the
city
to
review
the
expropriation
and,
let's
work
together
in
finding
a
solution
that
works
for
both
parties.
S
Yes
good
morning,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay?
Yes,
we
can
yes,
okay,
so
I'm
I'm
actually
here
to
complement
what
denise
and
the
family
just
said.
We
have
an
agreement
with
them
to
to
purchase
it
to
develop
and,
of
course,
it's
all
dependent
on
what
occurs
here,
but
so,
if
you
could,
please
go
to
the
second
slide
or
to
the
next
slide.
S
So
the
official
plan,
as
they
said
currently
is,
is
designated
as
a
dr
zoning,
and
we
want
to
keep
that
dr
designation
and
it's
the
same
designation
as
the
west
of
the
property
and,
as
we
know,
the
east
has
already
been
building
on
it.
The
proposed
official
plan
is
to
change
the
dr
to
environmented,
protected
zoning
and,
of
course,
they've
mentioned
the
deficient
notice
on
this
next
slide.
Please.
S
So
this
is
the
location,
you'll
notice
that
the
green,
which
is
a
little
difficult
to
see,
but
it
is
identified
as
a
as
a
is
the
site
in
question
here,
there's
two
parcels
and
on
the
right
side
of
that
you'll
see
a
blue
b
section,
which
is
actually
the
brazil
which
currently
has
three
towers
and
three
future
towers
on
the
west
sides.
On
the
left
side
we
see
sea,
which
is
what
is
currently
in
front
of
of
the
committee,
to
approve
a
four
future
towers
and
that's
by
the
shangyee.
S
I
call
it
the
shangye
project,
but
I
also
want
you
to
to
notice
the
expropriated
section
that
the
menards
have
mentioned,
which
is
right
in
front.
It
used
to
be
their
land,
but
it
was
expropriated
and,
and
so
I'll
get
back
to
that
a
little
later,
the
yellow,
as
you
see,
is
what's
currently
zoned
dr
currently
and
so,
and
you
also
notice
the
lrt,
there's
a
little
round
spot
with
the
lrt
on
it.
S
That's
where
it's
currently
being
built
in
front
of
the
chain
yay,
if
you
will
property
next,
so
yeah,
okay,
that's
fine!
So,
on
the
east
side,
this
is
the
brazil
site,
and
so
you
notice
that
there's
three
buildings
that
currently
they're
finishing
the
2022
building
and
in
the
future,
they
have
three
more
towers
that
you
can
see
surrounding
it,
whether
beside
or
in
front
of
in
front
of
the
buildings.
Next
slide.
Please.
S
So
this
is
the
chinese
site.
This
is
the
east
side
of
the
property
and
we
can
see
that
there's
actually
four
towers
that
they're
proposing
and
I
want
to
bring
your
attention
to
the
blue
arrow,
it's
showing
where
the
culvert
is
currently
and
that's
for
the
storm
wall,
water,
drainage
and
and,
of
course,
they've
proposed
a
tower
to
to
be
there
and
to
control
the
the
drainage.
S
So
this
is
kind
of
a
view
if
we
were
to
to
build
the
two
towers
that
we
are
interested
in
in
building
from
the
south,
which
is
the
top
view.
We
see
what
I
showed
you
earlier
about
the
brazil
site
on
the
right
hand,
side
and
on
the
left,
it's
showing
three,
but
it's
actually
four
towers
that
they
want
to
do
it's
an
older
picture
and
if
we
look
down
at
the
north
view,
oh
that's.
S
S
S
A
A
H
H
So
we
have
submitted
a
letter
to
staff
we've
last
week,
commenting
on
the
technical,
secondary
plan
that
was
circulated
in
august,
and
we
raised
three
general
concerns
with
respect
to
the
secondary
plan.
Throughout
the
secondary
plan.
There
are
policies
that
require
non-residential
uses
on
the
ground
floor
of
all
buildings,
where
they
abund
any
kind
of
a
publicly
accessible
space.
H
So,
like
you've,
heard
on
the
official
plan
and
other
documents,
you
know
the
language
is
generally
prescriptive.
There's
limited
flexibility
and
as
much
as
like
as
much
as
our
clients
would
like
to
facilitate
and
implement
the
vision
of
the
secondary
plan.
It
may
be
impossible
to
do
so,
given
the
wording
of
some
of
the
specific
policies
in
the
secondary
plan.
H
They
are
not
motivated
to
enter
into
any
kind
of
a
cost.
Sharing
agreement,
that's
going
to
cost
them
money,
and
so
we
need
to
think
more
carefully
about
how
to
structure
any
kind
of
agreement
or
how
to
deal
with
the
funding
for
the
new
public
street.
That's
been
identified
in
this
in
the
gen
dark
station
area
and
how
to
deal
with
any
possible
over
dedications
of
parkland.
H
So
the
ask
of
committee
this
morning
is
really
quite
simple:
we'd
ask
that
you
direct
staff
to
work
with
us
to
refine
the
language,
the
secondary
plan
to
address
the
concerns
that
we've
raised
in
our
letter
before
this
matter
rises
to
a
council
on
september
21st
and
I'll.
Just
further
note
that
I
only
realized
this
morning
that
the
secondary
plan-
that's
before
you
today
for
adoption
is
not
the
secondary
plan
that
we
commented
on
last
week.
H
H
I've
even
found
a
change
that
doesn't
appear
to
be
reflected
in
the
secondary
plan.
That's
before
you
this
morning
for
adoption,
so
I
would
ask
committee
to
please
direct
staff
to
meet
with
us
over
the
next
two
weeks
and
which
may
lead
to
further
technical
amendments
being
brought
before
council
on
september,
the
21st
I'm
over
my
five
minutes.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
A
J
Secondly,
the
tenth
line
station.
If
I
can
ask
you
to
bring
up
my
slide
four,
that
we
prepared,
my
my
clients,
lands
are
outlined
in
blue
and
located
on
the
north
side
of
saint
joseph
just
east
of
the
tenth
line
station,
and
this
also
illustrates
their
proximity
to
the
future
tenth
line
station,
which
is
shown
in
orange
on
this
image.
The
station
location
is
within
200
meters
of
the
subject,
lands
and
that's
illustrated
in
annex
a
of
the
secondary
plan
which
reflects
the
station
location,
which
stems
from
a
city-initiated
study
as
recent
as
2019.
J
now,
conversely,
schedule
a
of
the
secondary
plan
shows
a
location
on
10th,
that's
near
the
highway
crossing.
That
would
still
be
less
than
400
meters
from
my
client's
lands
and
if
I
can
ask
slide
3
to
be
brought
up
now,
while
it
would
be
appropriate
to
have
this
inconsistency.
Clarify
what's
most
relevant
to
me
is
the
fact
that
the
area
surrounding
the
future
tenth
line
station
appears
to
have
been
planned
without
consideration
for
this
future
station,
which
has
been
planned
for
many
years
and
remains
on
schedule.
J
A
of
the
city's
new
official
pop,
the
area
surrounding
the
station
exhibits
the
same
merits
for
heightened
densities
as
other
station
areas
and
should
be
planned
for
building
heights
in
the
40-story
range.
Now
I
ask
you
to
consider
how
this
area
differs
from
example,
from,
for
example,
the
jean
dark
station
area,
that's
shown
at
the
western
edge
of
this
planning
area
just
south
of
the
highway.
J
The
10th
station
area
shown
with
the
blue
teardrop
on
this
image
is
just
as
close
to
the
station
would
not
supplant
an
existing
established
residential
neighborhood
and
are
separated
further
and
buffered
with
a
forested
area
from
the
low-rise
residential
area
to
the
north,
where
shadowing
and
overlook
impacts
would
normally
be
of
primary
concern.
Now
the
secondary
plan
rationale
for
taking
this
approach
seems
to
be
based
on
a
lack
of
funding
for
this
station
area.
J
In
my
view,
this
is
not
a
valid
planning
approach
and
it's
inconsistent
with
the
approach
staff
committee
and
council
have
consistently
taken
with
other
future
station
areas
such
as
those
along
carling
avenue
that,
to
my
knowledge,
are
also
not
funded.
The
appropriate
planning
approach
would
rather
to
be
introduced,
policies
that
are
based
on
the
plan
for
this
future
station
and
if
the
plan
for
this
area
actually
gets
removed
for
a
station
in
this
area
gets
removed,
the
secondary
plan
would
then
need
to
change
accordingly
at
that
time.
J
J
Such
an
approach
is
more
common
with
larger
land
holdings
that
involve
few
land
holders
like
placed
orleans
that
you
can
see
on
this
image,
which
is
one
parcel
compared
to
over
10
in
the
subject
area
near
my
client's
lands.
Such
policy
should
be
structured
with
policies
that,
in
my
view,
incentivize
demonstration,
planning
and
land
assembly
with
additional
height
and
density
opportunities.
J
Fourth
parks
planning
schedule
c,
which
I
don't
have
in
my
slide.
Deck
of
the
secondary
plan
places
a
park
symbol
on
the
subject,
lands
the
related
policies
appropriately
state
that
the
symbol
does
not
denote
a
park
location.
However,
in
our
experience
dealing
with
this
and
other
secondary
plans,
this
can
create
future
confusion
for
both
developers
and
city
development
review
staff.
If
the
symbol
is
not
meant
to
denote
specific
lens,
then
we
would
suggest
the
use
of
an
overlay
for
the
entire
area
on
schedule
c.
J
So
in
conclusion,
we
would
ask
the
committee,
either
direct
staff
to
amend
their
policy
directions
surrounding
the
10th
station
to
reflect
these
concerns,
or
ideally
direct
them
to
consider
and
consult
with
foten
before
returning
to
committee,
following
final
approval
of
the
new
official
plan.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
let's,
let's
do
this-
maybe
we'll
we'll
move
on
with
start
our
questions
to
staff
and
if
the
clerk's
office
can
can
check
with
robert
and
suzanne
and
see
if
we
can
resolve
that
issue.
In
the
background
I
would
actually
like
to
go
to
councillor.
Lulaf
he's
got
his
hand
up.
First,
your
quick
on
the
draw
counselor
over
to
you.
T
T
T
It
is
incredible:
a
walkable
cyclable,
safe
pedestrian
space
that
has
been
beautified
with
things
like
trees,
having
all
of
our
amenities
up
against
the
pedestrian
and
cycling
infrastructure,
in
a
way
that
we
couldn't
even
imagine,
except
through
the
bia
streetscape
plan.
I
am
utterly
impressed
with
the
renderings
that
this
team
has
put
together
and
the
work
that
they've
done
consulting
with
the
community
and
working
with
me
over
the
course
of
the
last
three
years.
T
This
is
going
to
transform
our
main
street
and
yes,
change
is
difficult,
but
when
all
you
hear
is
why
can't
we
bury
the
hydra
lines?
You
know,
why
does
saint
joseph
still
look
like
it's
stuck
in
the
1960s
and
I
used
to
joke
that.
You
know
having
large
sprawling
parking
lots
up
against
your
main
street
may
have
been
nice
in
the
1950s
when
people
were
driving.
You
know
1956
plymouth,
but
I
drive
a
20.
Well
did
until
very
recently
at
2013
kia,
rio,
that's
not
going
to
be
pulling
anybody
into
your
business.
T
T
They
can
walk
downstairs
and
get
a
coffee
in
the
morning
on
their
way
to
get
on
the
train
to
get
to
work
if
they're,
if
they
have
to
go
in,
we
would
really
like
to
see
people
continue
to
work
for
home
or
in
the
community,
and
we're
going
to
be
able
to
provide
employment
close
to
home
you'll,
be
able
to
live
work
and
play
in
the
same
neighborhood.
This
is
a
massive
opportunity
for
our
east
end
we're
finally
putting
orleans
on
the
map
in
a
real
way.
T
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
to
this
plan
being
implemented
and
to
finally
having
a
vibrant
and
livable
street
in
orleans.
The
biggest
problem
that
we
have
right
now
is
that
you
know
in
order
to
access
the
business.
That's
directly
behind
your
home,
you
have
to
walk
the
equivalent
of
five
city
blocks
just
to
get
there.
The
new
connectivity
plan-
that's
included
with
this
and
further
study,
will
ensure
that
that
is
no
longer
the
case
and
will
finally
have
a
livable
main
street
in
orleans.
It's
such
a
wonderful
thing.
T
Thank
you
very
much
to
everybody
who
played
a
part
in
it.
Robin
you've,
you've
knocked
it
out
of
the
park
with
this.
You
and
your
team
truly
truly
appreciate,
and
while
there
are
still
some
details
to
be
worked
out,
I
know
that
we'll
get
there
and
you'll
continue
to
consult.
As
you
have.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
truly
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
address
the
committee
today.
A
E
A
A
M
Thank
you
chair.
I
I
do
have
a
question
for
staff,
but
I
also
wanted
to
to
quickly
make
a
comment.
So
I'll
start
with
my
question,
I
did
want
to
bring
up
what
mary
chon
and
the
myers
group
had
suggested
in
terms
of
a
direction
to
staff,
and
I
would
like
to
propose
that
staff
move
forward
with
those
discussions
with
those
those
stakeholders
in
the
weeks
to
come
before
this
comes
to
council.
O
M
M
I
wanted
to
say
how
important
this
plan
is
for
the
east
end,
and
I
want
to
thank
my
council
colleague,
particularly
councilor
luloff,
as
well
as
councillor
kitts
and
councillor
tierney,
because
this
has
been
a
project
that
has
been
decades
in
the
making
and
counselor
luloff
mentioned
this
a
moment
ago.
But
you
know
oftentimes.
M
We
in
the
east
end
look
to
other
areas
of
our
city,
the
south
end
and
the
west
end,
and
we
say
why
can't
we
have
this.
Why
can't
we
have
a
beautiful
main
street
that
is
walkable
that
we
can
cycle
along,
that?
I
can
take
my
kids
and
we
can
go
from
shop
to
shop
and
do
you
know
our
groceries
at
and
have
a
croissant
at
and
and
sit
on
a
patio
right
now.
M
The
way
that
our
main
street
sanctuary,
the
true
heart
of
our
community,
is
not
that
it
is
absolutely
in
the
antithesis
to
pedestrian
friendly.
It
really
deters
people
from
wanting
to
be
there
and
that's
not
where
we
want
to
see
our
main
streets
be
across
the
city,
but
particularly
in
the
east
end,
and
I
want
to
actually.
I
so
greatly
appreciate
the
work
staff
have
put
into
this,
and
I
have
to
say
it
was
wonderful
to
see
it.
They
weren't
just
working
on
this.
M
M
It
actually
takes
into
account
the
surrounding
areas
that
will
be
changed
over
time
and
will
evolve
to
accommodate
all
the
economic
benefits
that
the
lrt
extension
is
going
to
bring
to
us
the
potential
potential
zoning
opportunities
that
will
have
the
potential
for
affordable
housing
near
transit
to
have
mixed
use
to
truly
have
the
community
that
orleans
deserves.
So
I
am
very,
very
pleased
to
see
this
come
forward
today.
I
look
forward
to
supporting
it.
M
D
Thank
you
chair.
I
do
want
to
take
a
turn
to
cheerlead
about
this
a
little
bit,
but
first
I
wanted
to
give
staff
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
some
of
what
the
delegations
touched
on.
I
believe
and
the
issues
that
the
menaals
brought
up
is
outside
the
scope
of
the
secondary
plan.
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
confirm
that.
O
E
E
E
However,
the
boundary
between
the
urban
natural
feature
and
the
employment
area
is
approximate
in
the
in
the
old
official
plan.
We
did
not
have
the
same
detailed
environmental
data
that
we
have
now
particularly
topographic
data,
and
the
schedules
also.
The
old
schedules
are
also
in
coreldraw,
which
were
not
geo-referenced,
so
any
location
information
was
always
somewhat
approximate.
E
When
we
worked
on
the
new
official
plan,
we
were
using
new
data
and
in
particular,
we
had
better
data
on
the
presence
of
significant
woodlands,
on
the
property
and
on
and
topographic
data
that
showed
us
where
the
top
of
the
slope
was
on
the
property.
Plus
we
had
good
floodplain
mapping
for
the
property
and
based
upon
that
data,
we
revised
the
the
boundary
of
the
urban
natural
feature
in
the
new
official
plan
to
include
essentially
all
of
the
property
regarding
it
as
as
being
almost
entirely
constrained
by
these
environmental
factors.
D
O
We
have,
we
have
some
specific
policies
in
the
secondary
plan.
There's
an
area
specific
policy
relating
to
that
block.
We
did
provide
upon
consultation
with
some
of
the
landowners,
including
mr
gabor.
We
whom
we
hope
to
hear
from
soon.
We
did
include
a
policy
that
suggested
that
if
the
council
were
to
decide
not
to
build
a
station
there,
because
we're
not
sure
whether
the
funding
will
come
it
is,
we
call
it
a
ghost
station,
but
it
is
the
station
and
all
of
our
and
all
of
our
master
plans.
D
I
know
all
about
ghost
stations
in
orleans,
south
navin,
so
I
think
that's
a
very
prudent
approach,
so
I
thank
you
steph.
I
I
I'll
attempt
to
be
brief,
because
my
colleague
said
a
lot
of
what
I
wanted
to
say,
but
there
is
a
reason
why
the
east
end
counselors
are
so
enthused
about
this
and
I
do
want
to
touch
on
it
and
you
know
the
corridor
isn't
located
in
my
ward,
but
this
is
transformational
for
the
east
end
and
approving
this
plan.
I
think,
is
a
monumental
moment
for
orleans.
D
So
a
planning
committee
meeting
might
feel
a
little
bit
unceremonious,
but
I
really
want
to
salute
staff
for
their
work
on
this.
I
think
the
team
under
robin
and
peter's
leadership
have
been
really
visionary
and
creative
and
thinking
outside
the
box
to
ensure
that
this
area
lives
up
to
its
potential
and
with
the
advent
of
these
lrt
stations.
D
I
I
I
only
have
one
question:
I'm
thinking
back
to
the
technical
emotions
that
were
brought
up
at
the
beginning,
and
I'm
sorry
I
don't
remember
if
it
was
one
of
the
technical
motions
or
maybe
counselor
dude
has
brought
a
motion
forward
to
delete
section
4.15
in
its
entirety.
Oh
a
counselor
often
made
that
as
a
technical
motion
I
just
lida
clay
in
in
orleans
is
is
always
a
concern.
O
Thank
you
through
you,
mr
chair.
We
did
work
very
closely
with
the
rideau
valley
conservation
authority
on
the
wording
of
that
section.
Originally,
we
had
some
policies
that
were
drafted
actually
prior
to
the
new
official
plan,
so
we've
been
working
on
these
marine
clay
policies
in
the
secondary
plan
for
about
a
year
and
a
half
two
years
just
to
make
sure,
because
it's
an
important
consideration,
especially
in
the
east
end
and
we'd,
been
listening
during
the
new
official
plan.
O
So
the
new
official
plan
came
forward.
The
new
official
plan
has
good
policies
relating
to
that.
We
kept
our
draft
policies
in
this
secondary
plan.
Upon
some
further
review
with
the
conservation
authority,
we
decided
that
a
specific
policy
wasn't
necessary
that
we
would
rather
rely
on
the
parent
official
following
policies.
O
I
O
O
A
Thanks
counselor,
I
have
two
quick
questions.
One
was
just
around
that
whole
idea
of.
I
think
it
was
mr
casagrande
who
questioned
whether
or
not
we
should
even
be
doing
this
with
an
op
that
hasn't
been
approved.
Yet
can
staff
address
that
concern,
please
whether
it's
appropriate
at
this
time
to
bring
forward
secondary
plans
without
an
approved
op.
O
E
Yeah.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Just
as
a
process
question
the
recommendation.
That's
before
you
right
now
is
not
in
fact
actually
calling
for
enactment
of
the
secondary
plan.
Now
what
it
is
doing
is
it
is
bringing
forward
the
secondary
plan
for
for
planning
committee
and
council's
consideration
and
then
upon
passage
of
the
new
official
plan
by
the
province
when
that
approval
comes
through.
We
would
then
bring
the
enacting
bylaw
for
this
secondary
plan
through
at
that
time.
O
For
you,
mr
chair,
yes,
we're
aware
of
that
concern.
We
spoke
about
it
actually,
with
a
couple
of
different
parties.
The
they're
intended
to
be
general
you'll,
see
as
well
on
the
on
the
height
schedule
that
there's
a
requirement
for
a
demonstration
plan
on
most
of
the
on,
I
think,
a
number
of
those
sites.
The
the
demonstration
plan
really
looks
carefully
at
the
integration
of
those
properties
and
the
connectivity
in
the
streets.
I
A
A
T
A
Yeah
and
we
apologize
for
the
difficulty
in
connecting
today
but
hope
we
can
hear
from
you
before
this
comes
to
council.
Okay,
so
let's
go
through
the
motions.
We
have
four
motions
so
we'll
go
through
each
one
and
see
if
the
committee
is
willing
to
carry
them.
The
first
one
was
a
technical
motion
on
sensitive
marine
clays.
S
O
A
E
A
Okay
and
then
the
final
report
recommendations
as
amended.
Are
they
carried
married?
Okay?
Well,
congratulations
to
everyone
to
staff
to
counselors
and
again,
thank
you
to
all
stakeholders
and
public
members
who
are
involved
in
this
a
great
example
of
how
public
input
and
consul
public
consultation
makes
for
an
excellent
overall
plan.
So
well
done
and
we'll
look
forward
to
this
coming
to
council
in
a
few
weeks.
A
I
think
that
was
our
last
item.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
actually
no,
it
was
not.
I
don't
think
we
have
any
in-camera
items,
but
we
do
have
a
motion
of
which
notice
has
been
previously
given
from
counselor
dudas
on
step
backs
within
the
innis
road
zoning
review
area.
So
let's
bring
that
motion
up
on
the
screen
if
we
can
and
counselor
dudes.
I
know
you
read
this
into
the
record
last
time.
If
you
want
to
introduce
it
for
us
and
we'll
go
from
there.
M
What
this
attempts
to
do
is
to
have
these
sites
re-examined
as
part
of
the
zoning
review,
the
bylozonium
review
to
ensure
that
they
actually
fit
the
characteristics
of
the
community
still
allowed
for
density,
but
allow
for
the
setbacks,
the
step
backs
and
the
tradition,
the
transitions
that
are
required
and
be
fitting
these
sites,
and
I
will
give
an
example,
one
of
the
sites
that
I'm
particularly
talking
about
is
adjacent
to
a
one-story
school.
So
it's
a
lot
of
one
stories
and
what
is
in
the
am11.
M
Zoning
allows
for
a
nine
story
next
to
some
of
these,
with
absolutely
no
setbacks
or
step
backs
laid
out
within
the
framework.
So
if
I
could
have
the
I'm
just
trying
to
see
if
I
could
either
therefore
be
resolved,
because
I
had
introduced
this
last
time
so,
okay
I'll
read
this-
that
the
planning
committee
recommend
council
prove
that
staff
be
directed
to
investigate
amending
the
zoning
bylaw
in
the
next
omnibus
amendment,
so
that
the
step
backs
within
the
innis
road
zoning
review
area
document.
M
One
are
applied
to
both
the
rear
and
side
yards,
where
development
of
butts
low-rise
residential
zones,
properties,
subject
to
an
active
planning.
Application
will
be
exempt
from
these
changes
to
re-examine
the
appropriateness
of
the
am11
subzone
within
the
innis
road
zoning
review
area
as
part
of
the
new
zoning
bylaw
project,
as
concerns
related
to
the
building
height
and
compatibility
with
the
surrounding
community,
remain.
E
A
A
Thank
you,
jordan,
for
all
of
your
help
over
the
last
couple
years,
jordan's
the
person
who
helps
me
get
prepared
for
this
meeting
and
working
alongside
the
clerk's
office
and
other
staff,
and
one
of
the
many
people
who
help
these
meetings
go
smoothly.
Thank
you,
jordan,
for
all
your
advice
and
help
on
our
local
ward
files
and
our
citywide
files
as
well.
So
thank
you
and
good
luck
with
your
next
adventure
and
with
that
we
are
adjourned.
Our
next
meeting
is
thursday
september
22nd
thanks
everybody
and
have
a
great
day
thank.