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Planning Committee - September 23, 2021
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B
D
It's
9
31
and
I
see
at
least
six
smiling
faces
of
planning
committee
members,
so
welcome
everyone
to
our
planning
committee.
I
wish
to
acknowledge
that
ottawa
is
located
on
unseated
territory
of
the
algonquin
anishinaabe
nation.
D
G
F
Councillor
hugh
hubley
here,
council,
co-chairman,
moffat.
C
D
Here
you
have
corn
chair.
Thank
you.
This
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
1,
3,
4,
5,
6,
7,
8,
9
and
11
on
today's
agenda.
For
the
items
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
oral
submissions
today
or
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal.
D
In
addition,
the
applicant
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal.
If
council
does
not
adopt
an
amendment
within
90
days
of
receipt
of
the
application
for
zoning
and
120
days
for
an
official
plan
amendment
to
submit
written
comments
on
these
amendments
prior
to
their
consideration
by
city
council
on
october,
13
2021,
please
email
or
call
the
committee
or
council
coordinator
I'd
also
like
to
remind
committee
members.
If
you
have
any
motions
this
morning
to
please
send
those
to
the
clerk's
office,
the
committee
coordinator,
so
those
can
be
circulated
to
our
members.
D
So
what
we're
gonna
do?
We
have
several
items
on
the
agenda
for
people
who
are
tuning
in
and
watching
on
on
youtube
this
morning.
What
we'll
do
is
we'll
go
through
each
of
the
items
if
there
are
any
delegations
registered
for
the
items
we'll
hold
those
and
come
back
to
them
later.
If
there
are
any
items
where
we
do
not
have
a
delegation,
we
will
we'll
consider
carrying
those
items
so
we'll
go
through
one
by
one.
D
H
A
Common
is
is
very
fast.
It's
it's
just
that
we're
all
just
happy
that
counselor
has
done
work
on
this.
I
think
there
there
are
some
concerns
with
the
parking
the
surface
parking
here.
You've
got
215
parking
spaces
and
there's
an
internal
roundabout
here,
so
it
just
a
lot
of
surface
parking
and
just
in
terms
of
where
we're
shifting
in
the
city
it's
a
this
is
a
really
massive
spot
to
land.
A
There
are
a
lot
of
cars
planned
here
that
need
around
about
internally
there's
three
times
more
ground
floor
space
for
cars
than
than
people,
and
really
a
lot
of
the
site
is,
is
you
know,
paving
over
two-thirds
of
the
lot
for
surface
parking?
So
I
just
we
as
we
move
along
in
our
city.
A
We
the
the
importance
of
of
having
obviously
highly
accessible
transit
system,
but
planning
for
a
future
where
we
don't
have
as
many
cars
in
in
our
suburban
and
our
urban
areas
is
important
one
hand
there's
a
lot
of
low-rise
rental
options
planned
here.
I
think,
which
is
a
good
thing
and
and
appreciate
the
council's
work
on
this.
A
Given
how
hard
it
is
to
find
these
sorts
of
options
outside
the
core,
but
continue
to
be
concerned
about
some
of
the
parking
now
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
mention
chair,
because
I
think
we
we
should
be
paying
attention
to
that
more
and
more
as
a
planning
committee
as
we
as
we
approve
these
developments.
So
thanks
to
counselor
kids,
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
one
point.
H
Yeah,
no,
I
know
my
community
has
been
engaged
with
many
of
you
on
this
file
and
I
thank
you
for
for
taking
the
time
to
to
meet
with
them
and
hear
them
out.
This
has
changed
a
little
bit.
Initially,
we
were
looking
at
zoning
for
the
entire
block,
which
included
the
nonce.
Woods,
which
is,
is
what
the
community
had
brought
forward
concerns
on.
I
mean
there
are
concerns
about
the
part
that
we
are
looking
at
today,
as
well,
especially
with
transportation
and
traffic.
H
You've
heard
counselor
judas,
and
I
speak
to
this
quite
significantly,
but
in
a
I
would
say,
compromise
to
allow
for
continued
discussions
on
saving
the
non-swoods.
The
community
association
has
put
their
support
behind
this
rezoning
of
just
the
the
the
part
of
2065
portobello,
so
I
will
be
supporting
this,
but
I
will
appreciate
your
continued
support
as
we
work
through
the
the
non-swoods
piece.
Thank
you.
D
Okay,
we
do
have
the
applicant
here
greg
winters,
nova
tech
and
kelly
rhodenizer
from
regional
group.
If
the
committee's
prepared
to
carry
this
greg
and
kelly,
do
you
need
to
speak
today
to
committee.
I
K
Committee
and
co-chairs
no,
I
do
not
need
to
speak
either.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
and-
and
thank
you
council
kitts,
for
your
work
on
this
file.
It's
a
complicated,
complex
one.
Thank
you.
Okay.
The
second
item
on
the
agenda
is
city
priorities
for
community
benefits
at
le
breton
flats
and
funding
approaches
for
city-owned
facilities.
There
is
a
delegation,
so
we
will
hold
this
item.
D
Item
number
three
is
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
for
one
and
19,
sir
john,
a
mcdonald
parkway.
There
are
eight
public
delegations
plus
the
applicant
for
this
item,
so
we
will
hold
this
item
and
I
understand
counselor
libra
has
some
motions
too,
which
we'll
introduce
so
when
we
get
to
it
item
number
four
is
official
plan
amendment
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
two
robinson
avenue
and
320
lee's
avenue
in
rita
vanier.
D
There
is
a
delegation
registered,
so
we
will
hold
item
number
four
item.
Number
five
is
an
official
plan
amendment
and
zoning
by
law,
amendment
for
6301
and
6475
campo
drive
in
canada.
There
is
the
delegation
registered,
so
we
will
hold
it's.
Marianne
wilkinson
is
the
registered
delegation
for
that
item.
Item
number
six
official
plan
amendment
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
861
clyde
avenue
in
kitchissippi.
There
are
no
delegations
registered.
D
Are
there
any
any
any
committee
members
who
wish
to
hold
this
item.
D
L
I'd
offer
to
to
move
that
forward.
D
Okay,
while
it's
coming
up,
we
do
have
the
applicants
here
at
tim
smith,
urban
strategies
and
nathan
godlovich
from
evoke
architecture.
If
the
committee
is
prepared
to
to
carry
this
with
the
amendments,
do
you
need
to
speak
on
this
item
today.
D
There's
the
motion
on
the
screen:
now:
okay,
sorry,
nathan,
godless
from.
C
D
D
Is
would
be
carried.
L
Thanks,
I
won't
read
all
of
the
whereases.
Essentially
this
building
is
or
this
development
is
proposed
in
the
current
kitchissippi
ward,
following
the
ward
boundary
changes
that
will
actually
be
in
riverward
and
the
immediately
adjacent
low-rise
neighborhood
that
is
most
likely
to
be
affected
by
changing
traffic
patterns
is
going
to
be
in
the
future.
L
Bayward
councillors,
kavanaugh
brockington
and
I
met
with
planning
staff
to
come
up
with
the
following
motion,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
at
the
100
000
cash
contribution
for
traffic
calming
not
go
to
the
ward
15
account
but
be
divided
50.
Each
between
wards,
7
and
16,
therefore
be
it
resolved
that
there
be
no
further
notice
pursuant
to
section
3417
of
the
planning
act.
D
Thank
you,
counselor
any
questions
or
comments
on
that
motion.
D
D
D
There
is
a
representative
from
the
applicant
jacob
balduc
who's
with
us
jacob.
If
the
committee
is
prepared
to
carry
this
item,
do
you
wish
to
speak
today.
D
D
D
D
I
don't
think
so.
We
have
from
the
applicant
greg
winters,
nova
tech
and
pat
ferris,
krp
properties,
greg
or
pat.
If
the
committee
is
prepared
to
carry
this,
do
you
wish
to
speak
today?
No,
I
do
not
mr
chair.
Thank
you.
Okay,
thank
you
greg.
So
are
the
report
recommendations
carried.
D
Item
number
10
and
item
number
11
are
for
the
same
property.
We
will
consider
them
together.
We
have
no
delegations
registered
for
either
of
these.
Are
there
any
committee
members
who
want
to
hold
this
one?
It's
in
rita
of
any
council
flurries
word
counselor
flurry.
E
E
I
certainly
appreciate
that
the
applicant
has
tried
to
make
the
changes,
but
I
continue
in
my
perspective.
It
continues
to
come
up
short
as
it
relates
to
the
height
the
additional
porch
and
the
overhang
over
the
driveway.
E
E
Obviously
we
could,
we
could
add
a
number
of
things
to
the
site
and
we'll
continue
to
work
with
the
applicant,
but
I
I'm
concerned
that
the
addition
does
does
remove
its
standing
on
the
property
and.
E
That
it
overbuilds
the
the
look
of
that
heritage
building,
so
I
I've
worked
with
ashley.
I've
worked
with
the
applicant,
I'm
still
not
happy,
but
I
I
didn't
want
to
formalize
my
concerns
for
the
record.
D
Okay,
thank
you
counselor.
So
there's
no
delegations,
we
do
have
caleb
blakely
representing
the
applicant
klf
we're
prepared
to
carry
both
of
these
items.
Do
you
need
to
make
a
presentation
today
or
speak
today
to
the
committee.
D
Okay,
thank
you
so
we'll
take
these
one
by
one.
So
item
number
10
is
application
to
alter
65
stewart
street
a
property
designated
under
part
4
of
the
ontario
heritage
act.
Are
the
report
recommendations
carried
jared
varied?
Thank
you
and
then
item
number
eleven
is
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
stuart
street?
Are
the
report
recommendations
carried.
D
M
Excuse
me
chair:
it's
a
counselor
meehan.
Are
you
saying,
there's
you're
saying
there's
no
delegations
registered
to
speak
on
this
item
today.
M
A
little
bit
I
was
about
a
bit
surprised,
thank
you.
D
That
would
be
surprising
if
number
13
had
none,
absolutely
okay,
so
there's
there's
no
delegations,
so
we
we
won't
need
to
hold
this.
One
is
the
are
the
report
recommendations
carried.
D
D
And
then
number
14
is
status,
update,
planning,
committee
inquiries
and
motions
for
the
period
ending
september
3rd
2021..
Does
anyone
wish
to
hold
that
item.
E
Archibald
street
zoning
bylaw
amendment
we
do
is
sorry,
is
it
being
held
because
there's
a
public
delegation.
That's.
D
Correct,
okay,
thank
you.
We
have
one
one
delegation
registered.
Thank
you
okay,
so
we
have
a
number
of
items
that
we've
held.
The
last
item
on
the
agenda
has
many
delegations,
and
so
does
so.
Does
item
number
three?
It's
going
to
be
a
long
day
here,
and
so
just
for
a
heads
up
committee
members
and
to
delegations
who
are
registered.
D
We
will
try
to
take
a
break
around
the
noon
hour.
This
is
going
to
go
well
into
the
afternoon,
so
we'll
take
a
break
where
it
makes
sense
to
take
a
break
depending
where
we're
at
in
the
agenda
sometime
around
12
12
30
p.m.
So
you
can
plan
plan
your
your
lunch
and
your
breaks
around
that
so
going
back
to
the
beginning.
D
The
first
item
that
we
held
was
the
item
number
two.
So
this
is
city
priorities
for
community
benefits
at
le
breton
flats
and
funding
approaches
for
city-owned
facilities
in
somerset
ward.
We
do
have
allison
hamlin.
Is
the
city
planner
responsible
for
this
file?
I
believe
she
has
a
brief
overview
prepared
if
the
committee
wishes
to
to
hear
it
before
we
go
to
the
public
delegation.
M
So,
yes,
I
can
provide
a
brief
presentation.
So,
yes,
my
name
is
allison
hamlin.
This
report
comes
out
of
our
economic
development
services
department
and
identifies
city
priorities
for
community
benefits
at
le
breton
flats
and
the
funding
approaches
for
city-owned
facilities.
So
back
in
next
slide.
Please.
M
This
is
the
location
of
lebreton
flats.
The
shaded
area
is
the
area
of
the
national
capital,
commission's
lebron
flats
master
concept,
plan
area,
and
the
outline
shows
the
new
pima
c
station
and
the
bretton
flats
district
of
the
west
downtown
core,
which
will
be
a
secondary
plan
within
the
new
official
plan.
M
So
for
background,
the
ncc
launched
the
building
le
breton
redevelopment
project
in
2019,
and
then
staff
reported
to
council
in
july
2020
and
were
directed
to
establish
an
interdepartmental
group
to
prioritize
the
community
benefits
or
the
social
and
physical
outcomes
that
the
city
would
require
through
the
redevelopment.
M
So
staff
met
in
the
fall
of
2020
to
prepare
a
list
of
of
potential
priorities.
Next
slide,
please.
M
M
At
the
same
time,
the
national
capital
commission
has
also
formed
a
public
advisory
group
that
includes
representation
of
the
coalition
and
that's
an
ongoing
group
that
will
engage
directly
with
the
ncc
on
community
benefits
through
the
redevelopment
of
lebreton
flats.
Next
slide.
M
Associated
with
the
redevelopment
are
plans,
the
lebreton
flats
master
concept
plan
which
the
ncc
prep
has
has
prepared
and
the
board
of
directors
of
the
ncc
adopted
in
april
of
this
year,
and
that
plan
shows
a
multi-decade
vision
to
transform
the
site
into
a
complete
community
staff
will
also,
through
the
new
official
plan
process,
be
bringing
forward
the
direction
from
that
master
concept
plan
into
the
new
official
plan,
and
this
area
will
form
part
of
the
primacy
station
and
the
bretton
flats
district
within
the
west
downtown
core
secondary
plan.
M
So
this
list
is
not
intended
to
be
a
list
of
required
outcomes,
but
rather
a
strategic
list
of
possible
opportunities
and
it's
identifying
the
city's
priorities.
So
it's
not
intended
to
curtail
any
other
efforts
or
goals
that
the
ncc
or
other
stakeholders
might
have
in
achieving
any
kind
of
specific
physical
or
social
outcomes
at
lebreton
flats.
M
The
matrix
identifies
a
number
of
specific
priorities,
as
I
said.
Oh
can
you
go
back
one
slide,
please.
It
describes
who's
responsible
for
the
construction
and
the
operation
for
the
timing
of
delivery
for
the
city
tools
that
we
will
use
to
secure
the
benefit
for
sources
of
funding,
and
it
contains
additional
comments
and
staff
expect
that
over
the
lifetime
of
the
project,
this
matrix
will
be
reviewed
and
updated
and
new
projects
will
be
added,
and
this
matrix
will
also
enable
us
to
monitor
progress
throughout
the
development
horizon.
M
M
So
the
kinds
of
funding
strategies
that
may
be
used
would
include
area,
specific
development
charges
or
area
specific
levies.
So
staff
are
recommending,
through
this
report,
that
various
departments
report
back
in
q2
2022
to
council
on
on
these
funding
strategies
for
implementation.
M
D
P
Hi,
my
apologies.
This
is
the
first
time
I
was
speaking
as
a
panelist,
so
I
didn't
know
the
technical
zoom
necessary
to
make
it
work.
P
Hi,
my
name
is
mary
huang.
I
am
on
the
steering
committee
of
ottawa
community
benefits
network
and
I'm
also
on
the
board
of
center
town
community
association,
and
we
had
a
meeting
with
allison,
hamlin
and
her
colleague
last
week,
and
that
and
the
meeting
was
very
good.
I
we
would
definitely
like
what
she
has
done
in
planning
for
the
additional
community
benefits
charge
to
pay
for
some
of
the
city
run
facility.
That
would
go
into
the
lebreton
flat
parcel.
P
But
I
would
like
to
highlight
a
few
factors
and
for
your
consideration,
a
few
items
reconsideration
in
that
the
secondary
plan
for
the
bretton
flats
has
a
very
generic
25,
affordable
housing
with
no
specif
specified
level
of
affordability
in
view
that
lebreton
flat
in
1962
the
federal
government
evicted
somewhere
between
three
to
five
thousand
people
residents
from
the
russian
flats.
P
I
hope
there
will
be
some
some
requirement
down
the
road
for
how
much
deeply
affordable
units
would
be
in
laboratory
flats
and
second,
and
I
would
hope
that
we
have
been
in
dialogue
with
the
ncc
and
they
keep
saying
that
any
cba
would
need
to
involve
the
city
and
and
that,
rather
than
them,
because
their
their
world
is
more
land
sale
and
they
don't
have
the
mechanism
to
trigger
some
of
the
things
that's
necessary
in
in
a
proper
cba.
So
I
hope
this.
P
The
city
will
consider
down
the
road.
A
formal
community
benefits
framework
like
toronto
and
vancouver
has
in
the
before
us,
and
they
have
blazed
the
trail
and
that
maybe
ottawa
can
look
at
whether
it's
possible
to
to
implement
that
and
and
and
or
inclusionary
zoning
such
as
montrose,
20,
2020
and-
and
I
will
I
will
appreciate
if
there
are
more
consultations,
public
consultations,
because
the
last
public
consultation
held
by
the
ncc
was
in
fall
of
2019.
P
Before
the
master
concept
plan
was
released.
There
was
no
follow-up
consultation
even
on
zoom
to
to
discuss
the
message,
master
concept
when
it
was
brought
to
the
ncc
board,
and
but
the
public
was
not
invited
to
comment
on
it.
So
maybe
the
the
city
of
ottawa
can
invite
public
to
comment
on
the
secondary
plan
so
that
there
will
be
some
public
consultation
and
while
we,
the
ottawa
community,
benefit
network
nf32
member
had
two
aboriginal
groups,
gigno
housing
and
the
ottawa
average
of
group.
P
As
members,
we,
the
abbreviation
group,
is
a
white
and
very
diverse
stakeholder,
and
the
ncc
is
only
consulting
with
one.
P
So
maybe
the
city
can
invite
more
aboriginal
groups
to
the
table,
a
stakeholder
for
a
wider
consultation
of
the
secondary
plan,
because
I
I
guess
we
cannot
invite
them
to
comment
on
the
the
master
concept,
but
at
least
maybe
allow
them
to
comment
on
a
secondary
plan
and
what
they
see.
Maybe
things
that
will
be
useful
for
the
aboriginal
in
the
indigenous
communities
and-
and
I
think
I'm
I'm
sorry
not
to
mention
I'm
a
glad.
P
This
is
in
addition
to
the
community
benefits
charge.
That's
replacing
sessions
37,
that's
my
time.
C
Hi
mary
thanks
for
thanks
for
coming
out
thanks
for
all
of
your
work,
obviously,
on
the
community
benefits
network.
I
think
I
see
mary
more
than
I
see
my
own
staff
these
days.
Mary
is
quite
involved
in
the
community
and-
and
I
can
assure
members
of
of
the
committee
that
her
her
values
and
and
what
she's
looking
for
in
in
our
downtown
communities
really
do
reflect
the
larger
community.
So
it
is
good
to
have
you
out
here
mary
and
thank
you
for
that.
C
I
just
want
to.
I
just
want
to
circle
back
around
with
you
mary,
on
one
point
in
particular
that
that
you
raised
on
in
on
housing
and
the
fact
that.
D
I'm
not
sure
if
counselor
mckenny's
frozen
for
everyone,
or
just
for
me
frozen
for
everyone
all
right.
Let's
give.
Let's
give
the
counselor
just
a
moment
to
try
to
reconnect
mary.
I
have
a
question
for
you
from
the
community's
perspective,
so
this
is
a
the
bretton
flats
is
going
to
be
developed
over
decades
30
years
in
the
near
term,
let's
say
in
the
the
first
five
years
to
10
years.
Obviously,
affordable
housing
is
a
is
a
priority,
but
what
are
the
out
of
all
of
the
strategic
priorities
identified
here?
C
P
I
think
some
some
people
are
very
interested
in
community
spaces,
either
a
hub
or
something
for
a
community
center
or
potentially
later
on
community
health
center.
When,
when
there's
a
little
bit
more
residence,
probably
it
would
not
be
realistic
for
the
lebreton
flats
east,
but
maybe
an
earlier
stage
of
phase
one
or
phase
two
of
lebron
flats
west.
Unless
there's
room
in
some
of
the
joint
joint
tenders
or
in
the
parcel
of
city
land.
That
actually
has
some
that's
likely
to
be
our
community
housing
building.
P
P
That's
from
the
general
public,
both
on
the
ncc
public
consultation
and
some
people
who
live
in
the
neighborhood
have
expressed,
and
I
don't
know
how
easy
that
is
to
achieve
definitely
hard
for
for-profit
buildings,
because
they
are
trying
to
charge
very
high
rate
rents
which,
for
a
grocery
store,
that
is,
the
margin,
are
much
thinner,
sometimes
to
have
trouble
achieving,
but
maybe
in
the
och
building,
maybe
possibility
or
alternative
if
that's
not
feasible,
a
drugstore
with
a
food
pantry
that
can
at
least
take
care
of
the
very
basic,
immediate
needs
of
the
people
who
live.
P
There
could
be
very,
very
useful
and
and
several
people,
a
number
of
the
community
associations
are
very
concerned
about
green
space
and
there
are
park
space
aligned.
P
But
I
don't
know
if
the
ncc
planned
to
have
access
to
them
in
the
early
stages
of
the
lebraton
flats
west
or
more
towards
the
later
stages,
because
the
one
of
the
meetings
we
had
they
say
they
intend
to
take
money
from
the
sale
of
the
parcels
of
land
and
then
put
it
into
the
public
things
like
the
parks,
the
green
space,
and
you
know
the
public,
art
and
so
on.
P
So
does
that
mean
it
doesn't
happen
until
the
very
end
or
is
it
happening
sometime
in
the
middle
or
can
a
little
bit
of
it
be
included
with
each
face?
I
I
don't
know
because
I
I
remember
the
public
consultation,
some
people
mention
community
garden
or
smaller
neighborhood
parks.
So
maybe
that
can
be
incorporated
so
that
there
will
be
green
space
along
each
face,
not
just
the
big
green
space
they
planned
for
the
the
more
western
portion
of
it.
So.
C
Hi,
I
am
I'm
not
gonna
turn
on
my
camera.
My
my
internet
is
a
bit
wonky.
I'm
gonna
blame
it
on
all
those
r1
buses
going
behind
my
house
here,
putting
down
my
my
internet
and
the
rain
and
squirrels
mary.
Just
I
just
want
to.
I
just
want
to
circle
background
to
the
issue
of
affordable
housing,
because
you
know
we
don't
have.
C
You
know
anywhere
a
strong
definition
of
what
affordable
housing
is,
but
not
just
that
not
just
in
terms
of
of
how
much,
but
how
long
and
often
public
entities,
municipalities
consider
you
know
housing
for
10
years,
15
30
even
to
be
sufficient,
but
we
know
that
that
really
is
transitional.
C
It
means
that
it
doesn't
stay
in
in
on
the
market
as
affordable
housing
is
that
has
that
been
part
of
the
discussions
with
the
community
benefit
alliance
lines
in
terms
of
our
network,
rather
in
terms
of
what
type
of
affordability
you're
looking
for
and
what?
What
terms
you're.
Looking
for.
P
I
I
know
the
25
doesn't
have
a
definition
of
affordability
and
the
deeply
affordable
sometimes
doesn't
happen
without
provincial
subsidies
as
well.
So
I
I
am,
I
do
have
an
engineering
degree
and
this
was
an
mba,
so
I
did
the
numbers.
P
I
think
it
would
be
very
hard
to
achieve
25
deeply
affordable,
but
I
think
there
should
be
a
clear
definition
of,
or
at
least
a
target,
how
much
what's
a
percentage
that's
expected
to
be
deeply
affordable
and
hopefully
that
deeply
affordable
portion
is
in
perpetuity.
I
know
with
the
auto
company
benefits.
P
Sorry:
community
housing
corporation
under
steven
gager,
being
part
of
the
picture
of
bretton
flat
east,
were
at
least
guaranteed
of
some,
some
of
that
deeply
affordable,
permanent
housing
and
they
are
part
of
the
bid
for
the
parcel
as
103
consortium
and
there
are
some
affordable
housing
components,
and
I
I'm
not
privy
to
the
terms
of
the
rfq.
P
But
there
are
some
points
given
for
affordable
housing
and
which
the
the
federal
government
and
the
ncc
would
take
off
in
the
sale
price
of
the
land
in
order
to
facilitate
for
a
house.
But
I
don't
know
what
picture
those
parcels
were
would
end
up
being
depends
on
who,
who
wins
and
and
the
I
know,
ncc
went
to
the
planners,
allison
hamlet,
stating
I
I
can't
remember,
ten
or
twelve
and
a
half
percent
of
affordable
housing,
which
is
more.
P
The
canada
lands,
a
company,
a
position
for
the
lens
they
sell
and
and
the
allison
on
behalf
of
the
city.
We
repeated
the
requirement
for
25,
affordable
housing,
but
there
was
no
definition
for
the
level
of
affordability,
cmhc
uses
for
rental
construction.
P
Finance
initiative
uses
thirty
percent
on
medium
income
for
the
city,
which
is
a
hundred
nine
thousand
currently,
which
means
it's
27.25
and
they
they're
asking
for
either
or
either
attempt
either
that
or
maximum
achievable
market
rent
and
10
percent
off
that
or
20
to
30
percent
off
for
a
smaller
subset
of
the
the
units
of
20
to
30
percent,
and
I
I
live
at
a
ccoc
housing
in
arlington,
I'm
in
a
market
rate
unit,
I'm
paying
1600
and
change
the
banking
flora
which
got
cmhc
rental
construction
financing
is
funding,
they
are
charging
24.07
and
even
20
30
below
2400.
P
It's
1680
to
1920
way
above
what
non-profit
housing
is
charging
and
we
have
a
housing
crisis
in
ottawa.
I
feel
for
the
people
who
are
seniors
own
basic
oas,
cpp
and
gis,
because
a
single
is
twenty
thousand
dollars.
A
couple
is
thirty:
two
thousand
dollars
even
a
couple
can
only
afford.
I
think
when
I
did.
The
numbers
was
seven
hundred
fifty
dollars
a
month
on
in
rent
and
it's
very,
very
difficult
to
find
housing
for
750
dollars,
let
alone
for
the
single
or
people
in
odsp
or
ontario
works.
P
So
I
think
we
need
to
have
at
least
a
minimal,
deeply
affordable
and
hopefully
perpetual
requirement
for
lebreton
flats
because
they
did
evict
three
to
five
thousand
people.
C
Thanks
mary,
I
keep
freezing
so
I
did
get
most
of
that.
I
know
that
committee
members
are
still
on.
So,
if
you
can
hear
me,
thank
you.
I
can't
get
my
my
camera
up,
but
thanks
everyone,
and
thanks
mary
for
for
being
out
today.
D
N
Yes,
thanks
very
much
sorry
about
that.
I
was
just
thinking
about
the
ass
and
when
I
saw
child
care,
which
is
great
that
that
ask
is
being
put
in
I'm
wondering
about
a
school
there
as
well.
If,
if
it
would
afford
to
have
a
school
as
well
as
a
child
care
center,
there's
not,
I
don't
think,
there's
a
lot
close
close
by,
but
in
terms
of
making,
it
feel
like
a
community.
D
P
P
They
need
child
care
and
they
need
places
close
by
not
commuting
by
bus
for
a
long
time
to
drop
off
their
kids
and
commuting
by
bus
to
their
work,
so
the
schools
I
would
defer
to
somebody
more
knowledgeable,
though
I
don't
think
there's
a
a
formal
ask.
P
I
think
it's
a
nice
to
have-
and
I
guess
you
will-
the
city
of
ottawa
would
need
to
or
in
this
school
what
will
need
to
balance
what
kind
of
extra
excess
capacity
there
is
in
some
of
the
the
school
in
the
like
dalhousie
or
other
places
in
somerset
word.
P
I
I
know
there's
one
near
next
to
the
somerset
west,
coming
health
center
on
rosemont
eastwood
near
the
parkdale
food
centers,
whereby
pacquiao
food
center
is
moving
their
food
bank
operation
to
hamilton,
and
so
I
I
I
don't
know
enough
about
the
current
capacity
versus
demands
to
make
a
fair
assessment.
P
P
But
we
also
don't
have
a
accurate
picture
on
how
many
residents
they're
they're
on
the
total
residence.
So
so
it's
kind
of
hard
to
put
finger
in
the
air
ear
without
knowing
how
many
residents,
how
fast
they're
coming
in
to
make
a
accurate
assessment
to
what
the
needs
are.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
counselor
and
thanks
again,
mary
for
your
presentation.
Today.
Are
there
any
questions
for
staff,
counselor,
dude,
ass,.
C
Yes,
thank
you.
I
actually
it's
in
the
same
vein
of
questioning.
I
was
curious
about
the
child
care
component
because
we
don't
know
who's
going
to
to
live
there,
and
you
know
when
city
staff
were
undertaking
this.
I
was
curious
as
to
why
maybe
like
a
senior
center
wasn't
considered
or
once
again
a
school
or
some
of
the
other
assets
that
would
fit
various
demographics
in
different
ages.
M
Okay,
thank
you
chair.
I
can
answer
that
so
we're
looking
at
the
city
priorities.
Basically,
the
sort
of
city
fund
funded
facilities
that
would
be
located
within
the
bretton
flats.
We
anticipate
that
the
staff
anticipates
that,
through
the
official
plan,
work
and
and
future
zoning
work
that
there
will
be
permissions
within
the
zoning
for
other
types
of
uses,
all
of
all
variety
of
uses,
including
seniors
homes
and
including
a
school.
M
There
is
actually
work
underway
with
one
of
the
school
boards
to
see
if
there
is
an
opportunity
to
locate
a
school
here,
but
I
would
on
on
the
on
the
question
of
the
child
care.
If
you
have
a
specific
question
related
to
child
care,
we
do
have
the
director
of
children's
services
here
with
us,
jason
sabrin,
and
I
could
he
could
elaborate
on
on
what
comes
next.
There.
C
Well,
maybe
I
can
also
before
jason
before
you
chime
in
maybe
I'll.
Also
ask
too
you
know
if
you're
speaking
about
a
school,
many
of
the
schools
provide
child
care
within
them.
We
know
that
the
federal
liberal
government
was
just
reelected
and
they
have
a
very
fulsome
child
care
program
that
they're
hoping
to
implement.
So
I'm
wondering
why
our
municipality
is
considering
this
as
one
of
the
overarching
priorities
in
terms
of
this
particular
project.
C
When
a
couple
of
these
things
are
in
flux
and
if
it
is
a
priority,
then
I
look
at
it
and
you're
saying
that
this
would
be
implemented
in
the
middle
or
late
phases
of
the
project
so
10
to
20
years.
So
if
anybody
moving
in
there
right
now
has
little
kid
not
now,
but
when
it's
built
has
little
kids,
they
got
to
wait
10
years
for
it.
M
What
we,
the
next
step,
that
staff
needs
to
undertake
related
to
the
child
care
facility
is
the
needs
assessment,
some
of
the
other
things
that
we've
identified,
like
the
the
community
park
and
the
community
building
they're
a
little
bit
further
along
and
sort
of
the
needs
assessment
work,
and
so
the
next
step
in
terms
of
implementation,
for
those
things,
is
to
find
the
funding
and
that
can
be
through
area
specific
development
charges
or
using
the
development
charges
by
law
that
will
be
coming
up
in
in
future
years.
M
So
so
this
is
sort
of
setting
the
stage
for
for
for
identifying
needs
and
funding.
It's
true
that
there
that
may
take
time-
and
there
may
be
development
happening
in
the
meantime,
but
I
think
that
you
know
when
we,
when
we
start
here,
to
find
the
funding
we'll
be
able
to
deliver
it
as
soon
as
possible.
C
So
then,
it
goes
back
to
my
question,
though,
why
city
funding
for
child
care,
as
opposed
to
say,
a
senior
center,
when,
if
you're,
looking
10
or
20
years
in
the
future,
there
could
be
a
fulsome
child
care
program
out
there
there
may
be
a
private
entity
running
out
of
a
school.
I
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
have
this
in.
C
I
guess
maybe
my
direction
would
be
then
and
if
staff's
willing
to
take
it,
is
that
to
look
at
all
the
opportunities
that
will
come
out
within
this
time
span
to
partner
with
a
school,
if
they're
going
to
be
doing
something
they
have
some
wonderful.
The
coccinel
is
a
wonderful
daycare
out
here
in
the
east
end,
I'm
just
confused
as
to
why
this
one's
such
a
such
a
priority,
but
yet
10
20
years
from
now.
We
might
not
see
it
so.
G
And
just
maybe
my
camera
isn't
my
internet's
a
little
slow
today,
maybe
I'll
just
turn
off
my
camera
just
to
make
sure.
G
G
The
child
care
world
right
now
is
very
variable,
there's
the
potential
of
a
national
program,
but
I
will
also
remind
council:
there
is
a
city
strategic
priority
to
invest
in
more
or
less
our
child
care
service
plan,
which
is
around
increasing
access,
and
I
think,
with
the
opportunities
the
city
is
seeing
with
a
lot
of
growth
happening,
whether
we're
talking
lebron
or
any
of
these
lrt
potentials.
There's
a
unique
opportunity
to
address
what
parents
have
been
asking
for
is
closer
to
their
homes,
closer
to
transit.
G
They
want
easier
access
to
these
services,
so
as
we're
kind
of
talking
to
with
schools
and
the
potential,
we
want
the
ability
to
kind
of
take
the
time
to
do.
This
needs
assessment
figure
out
where
the
funding
is
coming
from,
because
there
could
be
coming
from
feds.
The
schools
have
been
an
amazing
partner.
It's
a
significant
reason
why
the
access
has
grown
over
the
last
few
years
because
they
are
building
more
access
to
child
care.
G
C
I
appreciate
that
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
the
results
of
the
needs
assessment
before
we
look
at
placing
any
city
services
in
that
area,
because
once
again,
I
do
recall,
I
think,
was
that
community
protective
services
that
we
had
a
discussion
about
the
city,
stepping
back
from
a
child
care
facility
that
was
in
rideau
vanier
area,
and
that
there
was
a
strong
need
and
maybe
councilor
kavanaugh
is
going
to
speak
to
this
in
the
bay
ward
area.
C
G
We
will
consider
this
as
well
as
part
of
that
review
as
well
and,
like
I
said
it's
very
variable
right
now
in
child
care,
but
the
data
and
the
evidence
is
key
to
making
sure
we're
addressing
those
highest
priorities
focused
highly
on
you
know
the
vulnerable
sector
and
the
ones
who
face
the
most
systematic
barriers.
D
Thank
you,
okay.
Thank
you
councillor.
I
I
wanted
to
just
ask
allison.
Before
we
go
to
councillor
kavanaugh
council
fleury,
the
the
25
goal
that
the
ncc
has
set
out
for
affordable
housing
at
le
breton.
Do
we
know
what
that
translates
to
into
a
number
of
units
and
and
how
granular
are
we
in
the
planning
like?
Is
there
a
number?
The
city
is
targeting
to
contribute
towards
that
25
goal
through
different
investments
and
and
policy.
M
So
that's
so
that
could
be
3
000
people
or
more
living
in
those
units
in
terms
of
the
city's
role,
though,
in
term
with
the
delivery
of
the
affordable
housing,
where
we
will
work
together
with
the
with
the
ncc
and
our
federal
partners
to
to
to
identify
land
for
non-profit,
affordable
housing
development,
that
would
be
the
preference
I
think
as
opposed
to
and
then
and
then,
if
also,
if
there's
units
within
a
private
development.
That's
another
alternative.
D
M
I
Okay
good
morning,
thank
you,
chair
yeah,
the
definition,
I
think
that's
something
we'll
have
to
continue
to
work
with.
Of
course,
we
want
the
units
to
be
as
affordable
as
possible
to
meet
the
you
know:
lower
income,
households
in
the
city,
a
more
vulnerable
residence.
That's
why
our
preference
first
is
for
land
over
units
one,
so
we
can
get
some
land.
You
know
over
to
the
not-for-profit
and
charitable
sectors
who
we
fund
and
we
work
with
them
to
provide
that
deeply
affordable
housing.
I
The
second
option
would
be
you
know
something
along
the
lines
of
some
kind
of
inclusionary
policy
within
within
the
private
sector.
You
know
with
respect
to
how
affordable
the
housing
can
get
really
depends
on
what
kind
of
incentives
the
city
and
other
levels
of
government
can
provide.
So,
for
example,
with
the
ncc
now
you
know,
we've
been
asking
them
to
work
with
cmhc
to
at
least
make
lands
available
and
they've.
I
They
have
agreed
to
do
that
and
it
looks
like
they're
doing
that
in
the
library
district
and
we
hope
that
they'll
continue
to
do
that.
But
a
lot
of
it's
going
to
depend
on
future,
affordable
housing
programs
for
both
federal
and
provincial
governments
and
because
it's
such
a
long
build
out
period.
It's
hard
for
us
to
really
identify
what
all
that
housing
will
be.
But
our
preference
is
to
make
sure
it
is
as
affordable
as
possible.
D
Okay,
thanks
for
clarifying
that
counselor
cavanaugh.
N
Yeah
no
thank
you.
I
I
appreciate
the
effort
that's
being
made
for
for
child
care,
for
the
reasons
that
have
been
outlined
and
thank
you
for
your
work
on
that.
I
think
it's
kind
of
a
catch-22:
if
you,
if
you
didn't
put
those
in
you,
would
attract
people
that
didn't
have
kids,
but
you
want
to
attract
people
with
kids
to
make
it
a
livable
long-term
neighborhood
for
families.
So
I'm
hoping
that's
why
I
asked
about
schools
as
well.
N
If
you're
setting
aside
a
land
for
child
care,
it
could
be
that
you're
setting
aside
land
for
possible
school
and
it
sounded
like
you-
were
having
those
conversations
which
is
great
because
this
used
to
be
a
family
neighborhood.
I've
met
someone
who
grew
up,
who
grew
up
there
as
a
child,
and
I
think
the
dream
would
be
to
have
it
back
to
that
that
we
took
a
lot
away
when
we
we
chase
families
out
of
there.
So
I
I'd
like
to
see
it
return
to
that.
N
I'm
sure
that
others
would
too.
So
I
just
that's
why
I
was
asking
about
the
school,
because
possibly
that
can
be
combined
since
schools
are
moving
towards
having
child
care
facilities
within
them.
I
I
wanted
to
know
what
what
the
possibility
is,
if
that's
even
thought
of
as
a
combination
not
to
take
away
from,
because
they
are
not
the
school's
system,
but
it
can
be
within
a
school.
N
So
is
that
is
that
something
that
is
looked
at
as
a
combination
with
child
care
and
and
a
school.
M
Yeah
those
discussions
are
being
had
and
with
the
needs
assessment
for
the
the
child
care
and
the
funding
arrangements
being
figured
out.
We
can
work
together
with
another
with
a
partner
if
it
works
to
the
timing,
works
to
put
something
in
school.
Great.
Thank
you.
N
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
wasn't
going
to
jump
in,
but
there
there
was
a
reference
to
ritovanian.
I
felt
compelled
to
ensure
two
con
two
elements,
one
which
is
as
a
counselor,
and
I
encourage
all
colleagues
to
support
child
care
wherever
possible.
Folks
need
child
care
where
they
live.
They
need
child
care
where
they
where
they
work.
So
that
would
be
my
general
comment
to
to
this,
but
more
specifically
to
to
the
intervention
from
a
colleague
relating
to
the
closure
of
pinocchio.
E
E
E
But
to
me
I
want
to
restate
that
the
francophone
aspects
led
by
the
city
and
the
provisions
of
meeting
the
visions
of
the
city
remain
the
same
and
it's
not
against
my
colleague
in
bayward,
who
I
know
has
needs
as
well.
But
it's
just
to
come
back
in
relations
to
to
to
the
situation
so
that
that
was
fully
discussed
at
cps.
So,
just
simply
for
point
of
clarification
and
for
record.
D
Okay,
thank
you,
counselor.
Are
there
any
other
questions
for
staff
on
this
should
also
know.
We
do
have
a
letter
from
the
national
capital
commission
in
support
of
the
strategy
and
the
report,
recommendations.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
to
to
staff
and
counselor
mckinney
and
to
all
the
community
members
who've
been
involved
in
the
in
this
planning
process,
leading
up
to
this
report.
D
We're
going
to
move
on
to
item
number
three.
This
is
the
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
for
1
and
19,
sir
john,
a
macdonald
parkway
in
kitchissippi
ward
councillor
leeper
has
two
motions,
I
believe
are
three
motions
on
this
three
motions
on
this.
So,
let's
start
by
introducing
the
motions.
L
Thanks
and
I'll
ask
eric
to
put
those
up
in
whatever
order.
He
feels
feels
best
I'll
I'll,
just
introduce
it
by
saying
the
the
applicant
and
I
remain
irreconcilably
oppo
on
opposite
sides
with
respect
to
using
this
land
for
embassies,
but
I
am
putting
three
motions
forward
today
that
I
feel
could
have
a
significant
effect
in
mitigating
some
of
the
impacts,
all
three
of
which
I
believe
are
reasonable.
L
I
did
reach
out
roughly
a
week
or
so
ago,
along
with
the
city
staff,
to
see
whether
the
ncc
would
be
willing
to
discuss
these
ahead
of
time,
so
we
could
walk
with
hand
in
hand
to
this
meeting.
Unfortunately,
that
meeting
didn't
happen,
and
so
I'm
hoping
to
get
your
support
today,
but
I
cannot
tell
you
whether
the
applicant
supports
these
so
without
reading
all
of
the
whereases
one
of
the
first
motions
is
that
the
community
design
plan
for
this
area
had
shown
a
slightly
larger
park.
L
I'd
like
to
have
the
part
that's
proposed
with
this
development,
be
in
conformity
with
that,
therefore,
be
it
resolve
the
pages
31
and
32,
as
found
in
document
2
of
the
report
and
page
36.
As
found
in
document
4
of
the
report
be
revised
with
the
documents
enclosed,
I
believe
the
document
has
been
sir.
The
motion
has
been
circulated,
so
you
can
see
the
the
difference
in
size
of
park
that
I
am
proposing.
L
And
then
there's
a
second
motion
with
respect
to
there.
I
I
don't
feel
that
the
language
is
particularly
strong
enough
to
ensure
that
if
the
ncc
is
proposing
five
embassies
here,
which
is
a
reduction
from
the
initial
sixth
that
they
had
proposed,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
language
is
relatively
ironclad
around.
That,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
following
be
added
as
a
new
provision
under
section
2
d
of
document
3,
as
found
on
page
35
of
the
report
x,
maximum
number
of
offices
limited
to
embassy
uses
or
diplomatic
missions.
L
We're
concerned
that
with
five
embassies
and
some
unclear
language
in
the
official
plan
amendment
that
there
might
be
the
temptation
to
build
a
parkade,
I
don't
believe
that
that
is
the
ncc's
intention,
but
we
just
want
to
make
sure
to
put
some
certainty
around
that,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
section.
13
of
the
official
plan
amendment
as
found
on
page
30
of
document
2,
be
revised
by
deleting
parking,
is
encouraged
to
locate
in
a
building
or
underground
and
substitute
with
the
following
wording.
Parking
is
strongly
encouraged
to
locate
underground.
L
We
feel
that
that
will
take
off
the
potential
of
having
a
parkade
on
the
property
through
the
rest
of
the
debate
over
this
item.
I
also
have
several
areas
where
I'm
hoping
colleagues
will
allow
me
to
give
some
direction
to
staff
on
things
to
work
on
before
this
comes
to
council.
But
those
are
the
three
motions
that
I
am
hoping
colleagues
will
will
support
thanks.
Chair.
D
D
We
have
the
applicant
who's
here,
who
also,
who
will
also
give
a
brief
presentation.
We
have
eight
public
delegations
registered
so
we'll
give
an
opportunity
for
each
of
those
delegations
to
share
their
feedback
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
staff
and
the
applicant
for
questions
after
a
public
delegation.
M
Thank
you
chair
good
morning,
members
of
planning
committee.
I'm
the
file
lead
for
the
proposed
amendments
to
the
city's
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
for
lands
at
1
and
19.
Sir
john,
a
macdonald
parkway.
M
M
Ottawa
river
is
located
on
the
to
the
north
beyond
the
parkway
and
the
federal
park
land
and
the
city's
innovation
center
at
bayview
yards
is
located
to
the
east
of
the
subject
site
on
the
other
side
of
slidell
and
to
the
south
is
the
mechanicsville
neighborhood,
which
includes
a
mix
of
uses,
but
is
predominantly
residential
and
the
site
is
irregular
in
shape
and
there
are
approximately
it's
approximately
3.7
hectares
in
size,
there's
some
on-site
vegetation,
trees
and
grass,
but
no
programmed
recreational
space
next
slide.
Please.
M
M
The
development
of
the
embassies
aligns
with
the
capital
function
of
the
lands,
as
defined
in
federal
land
use
plans,
and
it
was
contemplated
in
the
scott
street
sec
design.
Sorry,
scott
street
community
design
plan
next
slide.
M
So,
in
terms
of
consultation,
the
city's
public
notification
and
consultation
policy
was
followed
about.
176
individuals
responded
with
comments
or
questions
and
most
were
concerned
or
had
or
were
opposed
to
the
proposal.
In
february
of
2021
there
was
a
virtual
information
session
hosted
by
counselor
leeper.
I
pretended
by
approximately.
M
50
members
of
the
public,
the
planner,
also
met
with-
I
also
met
with
the
mechanicsville
community
association
in
march.
So
the
there
were
a
number
of
categories.
I
guess
of
public
comments.
They
ranged
from
land
use
to
built
form
to
site
layout
to
vehicular
traffic,
pedestrian
and
cyclist
safety,
parkland
and
green
space.
Noise
and
development
impacts,
the
necessity
and
the
of
the
of
the
proposal
and
the
choice
of
the
location,
trees,
landscaping
and
the
natural
environment
equity
and
in
the
mechanical
neighborhood,
and
an
overall
public
access.
M
In
response
to
some
of
the
comments
that
were
provided,
there
was
a
the
ncc
did
revise
the
proposal.
They
reduced
the
number
of
embassies
from
six
to
five
and
they
increased
the
size
of
the
of
the
public
park.
M
So
this
is
the
official
plan.
Amendment
area
a
would
be
redesignated
from
major
open
space
to
general
urban
area
area
b
would
be
would
remain
as
major
open
space
and
area
c
would
be
would
remain
as
designated
general
urban
area.
The
next
slide.
M
In
the
secondary
plan,
the
scott
street
secondary
plan
area
a
would
be
redesignated
from
open
space
existing
to
institutional
embassies
and
area
b
would
remain
open
space
existing
next
slide.
Please
in
the
the
zoning
amendment
that
is
proposed
area
a
would
be
rezoned
from
an
our
residential
fifth
density,
subzone
b,
with
a
height
of
37
meters
and
a
holding
symbol
to
institutional
sorry,
institution,
minor
institutional
sub
zone,
a
with
an
exception
and
a
holding
symbol
area
b
would
go
from
an
open
space
zone
to
that
same
zone.
M
Instead,
minor
institutional
sub
zone,
a
with
an
exception
and
holding
symbol
and
area
c,
would
be
rezoned
from
an
open
space
zone
to
a
different
open
space
zone.
It
should
be
noted
that
the
existing
open
space
zone,
the
o
l
one
exception
310
zone.
Although
it's
an
open
space
zone,
it
allows
for
a
wide
range
of
institutional
type
uses,
including
hospital
university
correctional
facility.
It's
a
very
wide
range
wide,
ranging
zone.
So
through
this,
the
the
federal
park
that's
proposed
at
the
east
end
of
the
site
would
be
rezoned
to
just
permit
a
park.
M
So,
in
conclusion,
staff
are
recommending
approval
of
the
proposed
official
plan,
amendment
secondary
plan
amendment
and
zoning
bylaw
amendment.
This
will
create
a
0.66
hectare
federal
park
in
the
west
side
of
the
property.
It
will
enable
the
remainder
of
the
lands
to
continue
as
park
uses
until
the
ultimate
redevelopment
of
the
lands
for
diplomatic
missions
or
embassies.
M
M
As
as
noted
in
the
staff
report,
as
the
nation's
capital,
ottawa
must
fulfill
both
capital
and
local
needs
in
terms
of
this
proposal.
This
is,
I
think
this
is
really
where,
where
the
challenges
lie,
diplomatic
missions
and
embassies
are
a
feature
of
a
capital
city.
So,
finally,
in
conclusion,
staff
are
recommending
approval.
D
D
F
Ahead.
Okay,
thank
you
thanks
very
much
so
good
morning,
chair,
gower,
chair
moffatt.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
today.
My
name
is
andrew
sacred
and
I'm
chief
of
planning
and
design
at
the
national
capital
commission,
I'm
presenting
today
with
my
colleague
from
photon
consultants,
matthew,
mcgilligate,
principal
of
policy
and
planning
together
and
on
this
file,
we're
representing
the
ncc
national
capital
commission.
F
Part
of
this
mandate
involves
planning
for
the
international
aspect
of
the
national
capital
region
and
ensuring
a
place
for
the
diplomatic
representation
of
foreign
nations.
Canada
is
a
party
to
the
1961
vienna
convention
on
diplomatic
relations.
This
international
treaty
requires
all
signatory
states
to
facilitate
the
accommodation
of
the
premises
necessary
for
the
missions
of
foreign
signatory
states.
F
F
F
The
policy
statements
in
the
in
the
urban
lands
plan
presaged
the
work
that
was
done
between
2015
and
2018
on
the
ottawa
river
south
shore
riverfront
park
plan.
This
plan
is
the
ncc's
vision
for
the
220
hectare
riverfront
park,
stretching
from
lebreton
flats
to
mud
lake.
F
J
Thanks
andrew,
perhaps
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide.
J
G
J
We've
heard
the
applications
before
the
committee
today
is
the
next
step
in
a
long
process
of
engagement,
consultation
and
enhancing
the
international
aspect
of
the
capital.
The
ncc
and
their
team
worked
with
city
staff
to
respond
to
the
feedback,
further
consult
with
community
members
and
ensure
a
compatible
set
of
built
form.
Zoning
provisions,
staff
recommended
op
and
zoning
provisions
will
provide
for
compatible
built
form.
J
J
Following
this,
the
ncc
will
work
with
global
affairs
to
identify
potential
foreign
nations
seeking
accommodation
for
their
presence
here
in
ottawa.
When
a
potential
nation
is
identified,
the
institute
will
ensure
that
any
development
proceeds
through
both
the
ncc's
federal
land
use
and
design
approvals
process,
along
with
the
city
of
ottawa's
site
plan
control
process.
D
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
so
we
will
come
back
to
the
applicant
and
the
staff
for
questions
later
eric.
Can
we
make
sure
we
take
the
applicant
off
screen
while
we
go
to
our
public
delegations,
we
have
eight
delegations
registered,
so
each
delegation
will
have
five
minutes,
followed
by
any
questions
from
committee
members.
D
B
B
D
B
My
name
is
lina
sarkar
and
I'm
a
social
worker
and
a
psychotherapist
living
and
working
in
mechanicsville,
I
hold
a
master's
degree
in
social
work
from
mcgill
university
and
did
my
graduate
research
in
the
links
between
community
mental
health
and
environmental
health.
I
have
been
applying
these
links
to
my
work
for
over
20
years.
B
The
planner's
report
refers
to
the
ncc's
intention
to
use
under
utilized
land
located
within
settlement
areas.
This
land
is
not
underutilized,
it
is
highly
utilized
and
valued
as
it
is
the
anishinabe
algonquin
people
whose
unseated
land
this
is
have
long
acknowledged,
the
value
of
land
beyond
its
commercial
value.
B
Numerous
studies
provide
the
evidence,
nature
soothes,
us
it
soothes
our
nervous
systems.
It
reduces
cortisol
levels,
helps
with
emotional
regulation,
gets
us
out,
walking
and
breathing
more
deeply
being
in
natural
spaces,
restores
a
sense
of
peace
and
security,
trees
and
nature
are
master
therapists.
B
B
People
have
strong
attachments
to
specific
places
that
can
be
as
strong
as
our
attachment
to
other
people.
We
tend
to
take
these
for
granted
like
body
parts.
We
only
miss
them
when
they're
threatened,
we're
gone.
Mechanicsville
residents
have
a
relationship
with
this
green
space
called
lazy
bay
commons.
It
is
a
community
member.
B
Many
residents
know
of
the
individual
tree
species
the
meeting
space
in
the
grove,
the
lookout
point
with
a
lovingly
placed
chair,
the
picnic
bench
where
people
eat
to
the
neighborhood.
This
is
a
community
space
to
literally
cross
paths
to
walk
dogs.
The
many
worn
paths
attest
to
the
high
level
of
use
places
like
this.
Allow
us
to
feel
part
of
an
ecosystem
in
a
way
that
we
can't
experience
in
a
corridor
or
concrete,
and
all
it
asks
in
return
is
to
be
allowed
to
continue
to
exist.
B
People
are
craving
nature.
It
is
an
essential
human
need.
Not
a
nice
to
have
the
mental
health
benefits
of
natural
spaces
are
even
more
marked
in
inner
city
areas
like
mechanicsville
when
they
are
within
a
five
to
ten
minute,
walk
from
people's
homes
easy
to
get
to.
During
the
day,
people
should
not
have
to
escape
their
neighborhoods
to
be
able
to
benefit
from
green
space
in
areas
like
mechanicsville
many
people
don't
own
cars
and
cannot
leave
the
neighborhood.
B
There
is
a
demonstrated
inequity
between
green
space
in
lower
and
higher
income
neighborhoods
across
canada.
Mechanicsville
does
not
have
enough
of
it,
even
according
to
the
city's
own
plan.
Nature
is
not
just
for
the
wealthy,
creating
livable
high-density
cities
to
mitigate
climate
change
is
emerging
as
one
of
the
most
interesting
and
creative
global
challenges
of
our
history.
B
B
B
B
L
Thank
you
very
much
lina.
Just
a
quick
note.
Eric
I've
sent
you
a
screenshot,
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
could
be
get
that
up
on
screen.
Please
lena!
Thank
you
very
much.
Can
you
describe
for
me
the
level
of
intensification
and
construction
activity
that
is
occurring
in
mechanicsville
right
now,.
B
Oh,
my
goodness
it
is.
It
is
very
intense.
As
I
speak
yeah
there
is.
You
know,
construction
going
on,
there's
a
31
story,
building
being
constructed
behind
me.
B
We
had,
I
have
seen
12
trees
go
down
just
around
me
just
around
my
house
in
the
last
year
alone,
12
mature
trees,
so
we're
seeing
this
everywhere
all
over
mechanic
school,
it's
very
intense
and
the
noise
is
is
ever
present,
especially
for
those
of
us
who
are,
you
know
at
home
all
day
working
and
are
stuck
in
apartments
or
places
without
a
lot
of
green
space
to
go
to.
L
No
I'd
say
it
is,
and
besides
the
the
31
story,
I
believe
that's
going
in
beside
you
now.
Richcraft
has
begun
work
on.
L
I
believe
it's
a
28
story,
a
little
further
down
the
street
and
and
something
that
hasn't
been
talked
a
lot
about
in
this
is
that
there
are
probably
another
couple
of
thousands
of
units
going
in
on
the
space
that
is
currently
occupied
by
the
bayview
yards,
so
extremely
intense,
and
it's
not
just
the
tall
buildings
right,
I
think
you've
seen
the
low
rise
is
also
in
being
intensively
developed
is,
is
that
true.
B
Yeah
I
mean
it's,
you
know
that
I
understand
densification,
I'm
in
favor
of
high
density
neighborhoods.
I
understand
the
principle
behind
it.
That
is
not
the
the
issue
is
that
it's
not
becoming
it's
not
livable
for
us.
If
you
take
away
these
needed
green
spaces
at
the
same
time,
it
needs
to
be
incorporated,
and
these
green
spaces
need
to
be
preserved
within
within
the
densification
plans,
which
doesn't
seem
to
be
the
case.
The
trees
just
seem
to
be
coming
down
without
any
consideration.
L
There's
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
on
the
screen,
there
is
a
screenshot,
that's
been
put
up
for
the
for
the
benefit
of
my
colleagues.
This
is
some
recently
posted
material
by
the
city
of
ottawa.
That
demonstrates
differences
in
temperature
taken.
I
believe,
it's
a
couple
years
ago
on
on
one
of
ottawa's
very
hot
days
and
shows
the
the
difference
in
temperature
at
the
corner
of
parkdale
and
scott.
If
you
just
go
to
you
know
at
two
o'clock,
you'll
see
the
effect
of
the
green
space.
L
That
is
there
in
terms
of
providing
a
cool
alternative
to
what
is
otherwise
a
bit
of
a
concrete
jungle.
So
how
is
that
space
used?
The
you
said
it
is
well
used.
I
I
know
some
folks
have
asserted
that
it's
not.
How
is
that
space
used.
B
Well,
if
you
just
look
at
even
all
the
paths
there
I
mean
at
any
point
of
the
day,
people
are
going
into
that
space.
They
walk
their
dogs.
There
they
sit
there,
they
just
get.
You
know
you
can
come
out
of
all
the
apartment
buildings
that
are
around
there
and
there's
many
more
coming
up
right
around
it.
People
go
in
there,
there's
no
other
place
to
really
go.
B
You
can
you
know
the
the
report
talked
about
the
parkway,
but
the
parkway
is
full
of
bikes
and
there's
very
actually
very
little
space
to
kind
of
escape
into
there's,
not
not
a
lot
of
treat
areas.
There's
not
a
lot
of
places
where
it's
not
just
concrete
or
asphalt
to
get.
You
know
it's
a
thin
strip
of
green
space,
so
yeah
people
use
this
all
day
long.
Every
time
I
go
in
there,
there's
somebody
in
there
walking
through
the
paths
connect
you
can
walk
across.
B
You
can
connect
from
the
neighborhood
down
to
the
river.
You
can
walk
all
along
the
green
meadow
quite
far
down.
So
I'll
often
you
know
use
that
as
a
path
to
get
to
get
around
and
a
lot
of
other
people
do
that
as
well.
Plus
people
eat
there,
they
have
picnics
there,
they
have
gatherings
there.
It's
not
a
well-known,
you
know
area,
but
we
also
go
and
look
at
wildlife
there
right.
We
enjoy
it.
There's
trees,
there's
there's
birds,
it's
yeah,
it's
it's
a
very
it's
a
unique
place.
L
And
as
several
thousand
more
residents
move
into
mechanicsville
over
the
course
of
the
next
decade,
that's
going
to
be
all
the
more
important
lena.
D
H
Yeah,
I
mean
to
reiterate
everything
that
lena
said
so
since
2015,
when
the
ncc
did
propose
this,
there
wasn't
as
many
people
who
have
lived
here.
I
just
moved
into
the
neighborhood
in
june
in
one
of
the
high-rises
that
went
up
so
and
then
there
is
a
building
being
built
right
beside
me.
So
and
I
do
walk
my
dog
there
every
single
day.
H
You
know
it's
a
place,
it's
not
technically
off
leash,
but
there's
a
space
where
she
can
go
because
laroche
park
is
shut
down
now
until
2024
lemieux
island
just
got
shut
down
that
wasn't
the
off
leash
dog
park,
but
we
always
went
there,
and
so
all
these
spaces
are
being
taken
away
and
if
you
think
the
amount
of
people
that
need
parkland
or
anywhere
just
to
get
outside
because
everyone
works
from
home.
H
We
need
something
like
that.
You
know,
as
as
lena
said,
like
it's
super
valuable
for
our
mental
health
and
in
2015.
We
didn't
have
a
pandemic
when
they
proposed
this,
and
so
maybe
that
made
sense,
but
it
doesn't
make
sense
right
now.
You
know
like
the
other
thing
is
nobody.
No
country
has
put
forward
that
they
even
want
to
build
there.
So
why
are
we
proposing
this
in
the
first
place
like
they?
Are?
H
H
So
if
you
want
to
add
foreign
diplomats
to
this
area,
who
have
to
sit
in
traffic
all
day
long
as
well
as
lift
thousand
other
people
who
have
cars
who
live
in
this
area
so,
like,
I
think,
a
traffic
report
or
traffic
study
needs
to
be
done
before
you
can
approve
a
zoning
law,
and
I
get
the
challenge
because
nobody's
put
forth
that
they
want
to
build
their
embassy.
H
But
it's
I,
I
just
don't
think
it's
necessary
right
now,
since
nobody's
nobody
wants
the
land.
They
just
want
to
have
the
zoning
approved
before
anything's
even
set
in
stone
so
that
they
can
always
have
it
and
not
go
back
on
it,
and
it
feels
to
be
honest
that,
like
I
understand
the
balance
you
need
to
have
you
know
as
a
capital
city,
you
need
to
have
that
responsibility,
but
we
also
live
here
and
it
really
feels
like
the
ncc
is
putting
the
privilege
of
diplomats
above
the
people
who
live
in
this
community.
L
Sure,
thanks
jennifer,
and
just
for
the
sake
of
my
colleagues,
I
do
think
it's
important
to
to
note.
Both
la
roche
and
lemieux
will
be
coming
back
once
laroche
is
redeveloped
and
the
the
conversion
of
the
bridge
is
done,
but
your
point
still
stands.
L
You
know
it
is
the
loss
of
a
very
important
green
space,
as
we
intensify
with
you
know,
probably
thousands
of
new
residents
in
this
part
of
the
of
the
city
over
the
next
few
years,
but
you
did
mention
something:
the
the
pandemic,
as
as
a
consideration
of
that,
we
should
be
keeping
in
mind
before
we
move
forward
with
this.
Can
you
just
unpack
that
for
me
a
bit?
Can
you
give
me
a
little
bit
of
clarity
about
what
you
meant
by
the
you
know?
We
didn't
have
a
pandemic
now.
L
We
know
the
importance
of
green
space
when
there
are
pandemics.
H
H
All
we
do
is
like
go
to
a
park
and
have
picnics
or
something
like
that,
because
that's
the
only
space
that
we
can
go
to
and
if
that's
taken
away
for
you
know
other
buildings
that,
like
I'm
not
even
gonna,
have
access
to
like
I
can't
just
go
into
whatever
embassy.
I
can't
go
to
the
indonesian
embassy
down
the
street
and
have
lunch
like
I'm
not
allowed
there.
So
I
mean,
I
don't
think
it's
right
to
take
away
that
space.
To
that
I
would
have
otherwise.
H
If,
like
you
know,
something
else
is
gonna
happen,
you
know,
are
we
gonna
go
into
a
fourth
wave?
Is
there
gonna
be
another
lockdown
when
every
single
restaurant's
closed?
And
you
know
you
have
nothing
to
do
you
can't
even
go
to
a
movie
but
like
you
can
go
outside
and
run
around
in
a
park
space
and
as
a
story.
As
lena
said,
there
is
not
park
space
along
the
path.
The
river
pathway,
like
it's
just
a
pathway.
D
A
Yeah
sorry,
just
quickly,
you
mentioned
that
there
was
no
traffic
impact
assessment.
I
was
just
there
is.
There
is
one
not
for
this
prop
for
this
project.
It's
on
it's
available
on
auto
auto.ca,
slash,
dev
apps.
If
you
go
to
the
to
the
list
of
applications
and
you
there's
about
16
different
reports,.
A
It
no
worries
no
worries,
yeah,
there's
a
transportation
impact
assessment
done
by
exp
yeah
done
by
exp.
A
I
haven't
looked
at
it
close
enough
to
tell
you
right
now,
but
it's
it's.
It
is
here
for
the
entire
site,
usually
what
they
do
in
situations.
That
is
always
they
always
overshoot
what
they
need.
So
they'll
usually
look
at
worst
case
scenario,
and,
like
I
mean
I
know
that
in
impact
assessments,
I've
seen
in
my
ward
they'll
always
err
on
the
side
of
the
most
traffic
possible
for
the
impact
on
that
site
to
see
if
it
actually
works.
A
A
Yeah
this
one
was
done,
looks
like
it
was
submitted
in
october
of
2020,
so
yeah
yeah-
that's
all
anyways
just
wanted
to
just
want
to.
Let
you
know.
A
N
Good
morning,
everyone
will
you
be
putting
up
my
deck.
My
name
is
laurie
marlow,
I'm
with
the
mechanicsville
community
association,
I'm
the
president.
This
is
our
deck
and
the
rest
of
the
speakers
are
also
going
to
speak.
To
this.
I
want
to
apologize
right
off
the
bat
for
the
construction
noise.
I've
got
a
ramaho
next
to
me.
Mccaggsville
is
a
war
zone
for
construction
right
now.
N
I
can't
I
can't
stop
that
noise
next
deck
next
slide,
please,
where
is
mechanicsville
work,
kitchissippi
ward,
north
of
scott
street,
south
of
the
sir
john,
a
mcdonald,
parkway
east
of
tunney's
and
west
of
bayview
yards
next.
N
N
N
N
The
green
space
master
plan
sets
a
target
of
one
hectare
of
total
parkland
per
thousand
residents.
The
draft
op,
which
includes
the
parks
and
rec
facility
master
plan,
identifies
two
hectares
of
parkland
per
thousand
residents,
the
only
parkland
in
mechanicsville's
laroche
park
at
2.44
hectares,
which
is
rented
to
the
public.
We
have
no
other
pocket
parks
or
green
space.
Next
2019
we
were
at
2400
homes
over
11
hectares
of
land.
If
you
divide
2400
by
11
hectares,
you
got
218
units
per
hectare.
N
N
Well,
we
have
a
large
apartment
neighborhood
in
the
northwest
corner
of
mechanicsville,
along
parkdale
avenue
and
along
parkdale
made
the
majority
of
the
lots
in
mechanicsville
with
the
new
amended.
Most
of
our
lots
were:
are
zoned
r4
they
permit
up
to
12
unit
apartments.
N
N
Mechanical
density
will
double
if
not
triple
in
coming
years.
Next,
what
does
tennessee
look
like
in
mechanicsville?
Well
to
your
left
to
my
left.
This
is
an
r4,
that's
24
units,
no
parking
tiny,
little
trees
on
two
lots
that
were
formerly
two
single
family
homes
on
your
right,
32
story.
That's
230
units
also
note
the
crane
next
to
it.
Building
the
next
high
rise
of
28
stories
at
176
units.
N
Next
mechanicsville
demographics
we're
a
working
class
neighborhood.
We
were
home
to
railway
workers
and
large
families
who
worked
on
the
ottawa
river,
also
known
for
its
many
working
garages.
N
Rooming
houses
with
tenants
who
have
below
average
incomes,
many
of
our
residents
and
our
residents
that
are
on
residents
that
are
on
a
daily
managed
opioid
program
cannot
travel
to
seek
green
space
outside
mechanicsville.
There's
no
going
to
the
grounds.
N
Lazy,
lazy.
Commons
is
natural,
green
space.
Next,
just
to
give
you
an
idea
to
the
right,
you'll
see
the
dense
high-rise
apartment.
You'll
see
the
five
proposed
embassies
bayview
station.
I'm
going
to
talk
about
that
1500
units
there's
the
little
park
that
ncc
is
proposing
to
give
us
and
to
the
south
of
these
embassies.
We
have
a
34
unit
residence
with
a
managed
opioid
program,
these
residents.
This
is
steps
away,
green
space
for
them.
These
are
vulnerable
residents
that
need
quiet,
green
space.
N
All
right,
the
rest
of
the
south
is
in
mechanics
hall.
Dents
are
four
and
r5
apartments:
no
yards
trees
parking
immediately
south
of
it
is
a
hundred,
affordable
units
with
a
housing
first
program,
34
units,
youth
at
risk
residents,
and
we
have
64
low-income
seniors
residents.
Next.
Q
N
Oh
yeah,
okay,
next,
we'll
skip
that
just
want
to
talk
about
bayview
yards
1500
units.
You
notice
that
they
are
including
the
sports
park
in
there.
Next.
E
N
2014
is
good
question.
It
was
always
identified
in
2000,
so
I
think
2014
the
ncc
started.
That
would
be
actually
probably
when
the
scott
strait
cdp
was
happening
and
that's
when
we
started
to
see
it
was
being
considered
for
embassies.
N
I
think
it
was
always
known
to
us
that
there
was
maybe
one
or
two
considered
on
this
property,
but
it
was
not
a
big,
not
a
big
concern
to
us
back
then,
because
we
were
dealing
with
a
scott
street
cdp
and
we
were
more
concerned
with
saving
la
roche
park
and
seeing
baby
yards
get
redeveloped
because
it
was.
It
was
a
bit
of
a
mess
at
that
time.
N
N
L
L
Thanks
very
briefly,
lori,
I
I
I
think
I
misheard
something
or
or
misunderstood
something
you'd
said
earlier.
You
didn't
mean
to
imply
that
mechanicsville
has
more
park
space
than
is
being
targeted
right.
You
said
we're
achieving
the
parkland
goals.
D
C
C
This
is
through.
Please,
please,
advise
and
I'll
restart
the
video
with
the
with
the
sound.
R
R
R
The
neighborhood
that
I
grew
up
in
and
raised
a
family
is
vanishing.
Houses
are
replaced
by
apartment
towers
and,
once
more,
I
see
the
government
stepping
in
to
further
separate
mechanicsville
from
the
river.
To
me.
This
is
the
best
place
in
the
city
to
call
home
a
small
village
along
the
shore
of
the
river
in
the
middle
of
a
big
city.
R
L
D
And
while,
while
your
presentation
was
going
on,
one
of
my
staff
sent
me
an
old
satellite
photo
or
photograph
from
what
the
neighborhood
looked
like
before
the
development
of
the
parkway,
and
that
is
available
in
geo
ottawa
and
it's
fascinating
to
look
at
how
this
community
has
changed
over
the
past
few
decades.
But
thanks
for
your
presentation
and
for
the
the
history
of
the
mechanicsville
community
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
D
I'm
seeing
no
more
questions.
So
our
next
speaker
is
katie.
Greece
from
the
mechanicsville
community
association.
O
Good
morning
I
do
have
some
slides
that
lori
submitted
if
we
could
get
those.
O
Perfect.
Okay,
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
time
this
morning.
Thank
you,
keith
for
such
a
fantastic
video.
My
name
is
katie.
I
live
in
mechanicsville,
I'm
right
down
the
street
from
where
this
green
space
is,
and
so
I
walk
by
it
almost
every
day.
O
I'm
asking
that
you
reject
this
application
in
consideration
of
our
climate
emergency
and
the
goals
that
were
set
out
in
response
to
it.
The
integrity
of
this
green
space
is
crucial
for
the
city
of
ottawa
to
achieve
its
targets
and
uphold
trust
with
the
residents
of
this
city.
O
This
starts
with
preserving
the
green
space
we
already
have
and
setting
the
example
that
the
government
is
working
in
the
interest
of
our
citizens,
upwards
of
100
upset
and
concerned
comments
from
residents
were
published
in
this
applications,
as
we
heard
it
report.
This
is
confirmation
that
people
depend
on
their
government
to
set
the
example
and
make
decisions
that
will
amplify
their
voices
and
concerns
not
shut
them
down
next
slide.
Please.
O
I'd
also
like
to
touch
on
the
city
of
ottawa's
urban
forest
management
plan
that
was
published
in
2017..
I'd
like
to
read
you
some
of
the
benefits
of
urban
forests
quoted
from
this
document.
Urban
forest
can
significantly
lower
the
demand
for
seasonal
heating
and
cooling,
reducing
energy
use
and
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
O
Urban
forests
make
climate
change,
affected
cities
safer
and
more
comfortable
places
to
live
by
rejecting
this
embassy
application,
you're,
demonstrating
that
you
are
serious
about
these
objectives
and
that
you
respect
what
the
community
has
asked
for
and
that
your
actions
align
with
what
was
promised
in
the
urban
forest
management
plan
next
slide.
Please.
O
Another
section
of
the
urban
forest
management
plan
states
every
tree
in
this
urban
forest
has
value
and
contributes
some
benefit,
while
small
trees
may
fulfill
important
functions
for
constrained
sites.
Large
trees
do
provide
exponentially
more
benefits
than
small
trees
and
represent
the
most
cost
effective
means
of
obtaining
those
benefits.
O
Large
trees
are
also
difficult
to
replace
when
they
are
lost.
They
thrive
in
less
disturbed
soils
and
good
growing
conditions.
Trees
planted
today
will
take
several
decades
to
develop
to
maturity
even
in
optimal
growing
conditions,
and
many
trees
may
never
grow
to
their
full
genetic
potential
to
deliver
important
urban
health.
Urban
forest
benefits,
people
of
ottawa
value,
the
city's
large
trees
and
green
spaces
they're
important
to
us,
along
with
being
crucial
to
achieving
any
of
our
climate
related
goals.
O
Global
temperatures
are
already
at
1.2
degrees
above
pre-industrial
levels,
with
the
paris
agreement
original
target
aiming
to
keep
temperatures
below
1.5
degrees.
We
are
dangerously
close
to
reaching
that
and
there
is
no
chance
if
we
don't
start
somewhere.
We
need
to
begin
within
the
community
to
set
the
example
that
others
can
follow
suit.
So
I'm
asking
that
you
reject
this
application
to
protect
and
eventually
expand
this
valuable
green
space.
D
Q
Get
myself
unmuted
here
just
before
I
start.
If
councilor
brockington
would
like
more
information
on
2014
data,
I
can
supply
it
at
the
end.
Q
But
before
I
get
into
my
presentation,
I
want
to
just
oh
there
we
go.
Thank
you
very
much
before
I
get
into
the
specifics
of
my
my
presentation.
I
want
to
outline
that
the
mca
is
strongly
of
the
view.
The
entire
site
should
be
trained
retained
as
green
space.
However,
if
this
is
not
possible-
and
there
is
construction
on
the
site
of
embassies,
it's
critical
to
think
about
how
the
community
accesses
the
remaining
green
space
so
that
my
presentation
will
focus
on
effective
pedestrian
and
cycling
access
to
the
green
space.
Q
I'm
going
to
warn
you
now
you're
going
to
hear
a
lot
about
the
potential
of
using
easements
over
city
sewers
as
the
core
of
a
trail
network
through
the
site.
Next
slide,
please
the
provincial
policy
statement,
the
scott
street
secondary
plan
and
the
community
development
plan
all
support
or
require
equitable
community
access
to
green
space,
including
the
ottawa
river.
This
extra
extract
from
the
secondary
plan
shows
north-south
access
across
the
site
to
the
s-cam
trail
network.
This
access
is
over
city
sewer.
Easements
access
is
important
to
ensure
the
health
and
well-being
of
the
community.
Q
There
must
be
access
next
slide.
Please,
the
ncc's
december
application
had
multiple
concept
plans.
This
one
featured
in
the
city's
public
notice.
The
horizontal
arrows
indicate
north-south
pedestrian
access
provided
over
the
hinchey
and
carruthers
city
sewers.
The
vertical
red
lines
highlight
the
new
proposed
ncc
connecting
pathway
along
the
northern
perimeter
of
the
site.
This
network
would
provide
pedestrian
access
to
the
sgm
national
pathway
and
connect
to
the
community
park
at
the
east
end
next
slide,
please
the
concept
plan
used
in
the
ncc's
transportation
impact
study
shows
a
street
from
forward
to
hinchey
the
cot.
Q
This
concept
plan
demonstrates
that
the
full
width
of
this
site
is
not
needed
for
an
embassy,
and
this
is
fortunate
because
the
embassy
is
located
squarely
on
top
of
the
city's
underground
utility.
This
embassy
building
must
be
located
south
of
its
shown
location,
which
would
free
up
the
sewer
easement
and
create
room
for
pedestrian
access
through
the
site
on
the
north
side
over
the
city's
utility
easement
next
slide.
Please,
the
red
lines
in
this
slide
represent
the
city's
sewers
next
slide.
There
you
go.
Thank
you.
Q
The
vertical
arrows
highlight
two
additional
sewer
easements
next
slide:
please,
the
mca's
june
submission
advocated
for
using
all
the
city,
underground
utilities
for
pedestrian
and
cycling
access,
including
the
utility
easement,
from
forward
the
red
arrow
on
the
left.
It
also
noticed
the
small
adaptation
was
needed
to
avoid
rock
outcrops
at
the
foot
of
hinchey
and
carruthers
easements.
This
adaptation
is
a
short
connecting
pathway,
approximately
110
meters,
the
red
arrow
on
the
right
to
join
the
utility
corridor
pathways
to
the
east
end
park
next
slide.
Q
Please,
the
greatest
density
population
in
mechanicsville
is
in
the
apartment
neighborhood
along
parkdale.
These
towers
are
distant
from
any
green
space
and
the
east
end
park
using
all
of
the
city
easements
for
pedestrian
cycling
access,
but
also
created
a
much
needed
pocket
park
for
the
enjoyment
of
west
end
residents.
The
pocket
park
is
the
triangular
piece
with
cross
hatching
indicated
by
the
arrow
next
slide.
The
ncc's
amended
proposal
acknowledged
the
mca's
argument
that
it
was
impossible
to
build
embassies
on
top
of
city
easements.
Q
Instead
of
dedicating
the
easements
to
public
pathways.
The
ncc's
amanda
proposal
one
minute
would
create
a
walled
monolith
that
will
block
all
community
access,
north,
south,
east
and
west
to
green
space.
It
turns
the
essential
city
utility
corridors
indicated
by
the
red
arrows
into
private
gardens,
private
gardens
for
the
exclusive
use
of
foreign
diplomats
that
ignores
the
ppa
pps,
the
secondary
plan,
the
cdp
and
it
eliminates
the
proposed
pathway
along
the
northern
perimeter
of
the
site
next
slide.
Q
Q
This
presentation
is
focused
on
access
to
green
space.
If
the
entire
site
is
not
a
park,
we
are
asking
you
to
reserve
all
city
sewer
easements
for
public
use
as
pedestrian
cycling
pathways
to
green
space
and
to
encourage
the
ncc
to
work
with
the
community
on
the
connecting
pedestrian
link
and
a
pocket
park
on
the
west
end
of
the
site.
Please
do
not
allow
the
ncc
to
override
prevention
policies
and
plans,
use
your
authority
in
the
public
interest
and
reject
the
amended
proposal
or
refer
it
for
further
development.
Thank
you.
A
I
appreciate
the
presentation
I
I
did
want
to
ask
around
particularly
the
easements
portion
of
the
access
to
the
to
the
water
there
to
the
river.
I
have
two
questions
for
you.
One
is:
did
the
ncc
respond
to
that
concern
when
it
was
raised
with
them.
Q
Well,
now
that's
a
really
good
question,
as
it
turns
out.
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
asking
the
ncc
that
very
same
question
through
egypt
and
the
answer
is
they
haven't,
got
a
clue
where
else
they're
going
to
put
these
things.
They
had
three
sites
listed
on
sussex
avenue,
the
rcmp
provided
a
security
report.
That
said
they
can't
build
there
anymore,
it's
much
too
dangerous
and
so
and
part
of
the
logic
behind
that
was
putting
together.
A
cluster
of
embassies
in
the
same
place
will
attract
terrorist
activities,
a
greater
risk
of
that.
Q
We
submitted
a
security
report
prepared
by
the
retired
chief
planner
for
the
department
of
defense
and
the
parliament
buildings
indicating
that
this
is
a
high
risk
area,
particularly
because
of
the
close
proximity
of
the
public,
and
because
there
are
so
many
high
rises.
If
a
terrorist
bomb
goes
off
here
it
could
pancake
half
the
neighborhood
and
the
ncc
with
a
flip
of
a
hand
said:
oh
excuse
me,
we
have
other
embassies
in
the
city.
Why
should
we
worry
about
you
if
they're
going
to
plan
a
precinct?
Q
Q
P
Q
The
next
year
in
2015,
there
was
an
insert
and
a
consultation
report
from
the
mcc.
That
said,
we
have
the
power.
We
have
the
authority
to
do
what
we
want,
and
we
can
put
embassies
here
that
appeared
after
the
consultation
the
next
year
in
2016
when
they
had
a
consultation
around
the
the
extreme
west
end.
The
other
side
of
island
park
drive
for
the
first
time
they
included
consultation
materials
that
showed
that
diplomatic
embassy,
not
when
they
talked
to
us.
They
were
talking
to
the
people
out
on
the
west
end.
So
that's
2014..
Q
You
know
the
there's
been
an
imperial
arrogance
on
the
ncc
here
of
simply
not
consulting
with
the
community,
not
thinking
about
the
community's
well-being,
not
thinking
about
the
need
for
green
space,
not
thinking
about
connecting
roots,
in
fact
only
focusing
on
diplomatic
embassies
and
when
they
lost
the
possibility
of
building
them
along
confederation
square.
They
didn't,
they
didn't
actually
go
back
to
the
books,
they
just
said.
Oh
well,
we
got
this
piece
of
land
and
we
said
we
were
going
to
do
something
with
it
and
we
got
the
power.
So
let's
do
it.
A
Well,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
some
of
that
history.
Thank
you,
mr
atkinson,
and
I
have
a
lot
of
sympathy
with
the
argument
around
the
access
to
the
river,
the
pathways
that
could
should
exist
here
that
you've
you've
mentioned
that
aren't
in
the
plans
now.
So
I
appreciate
your
your
delegation.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
Thanks
councilwoman,
I
you've
raised
a
number
of
issues
roy
and
I
want
to
make
sure
when
we
we
get
to
questions
for
staff
and
for
the
applicant
that
those
are
addressed
to,
in
particular
that
you
raise
that
all
all
our
staff,
if
none
of
my
colleagues
do,
would
be
around
the
whole
issue
of
utilities
and
some
public
access.
I
believe
counselor
leeper
is
working
on
a
direction
that
staff
he
wants
staff
to
take
it
away
and
work
on
before
this
comes
to
council,
specifically
around
the
easements
and
the
pathways
and
the
public
access.
D
The
other
one
is
around
embassies
and
security,
and
I
think
that's
a
question.
We
could
ask
the
staff
as
well
just
in
terms
of
if
we're,
assessing
whether
this
land
use
is
appropriate
in
proximity
to
to
homes
and
residences
and
get
some
some
impact
input
on
how
that
has
been
assessed.
So
any
other
questions
for
I
just
make.
Q
D
Point
you.
D
Roy,
it
wasn't
a
question
just
a
comment
on
how
we'll
follow
up
on
this.
So
no
there's
no
more
questions
for
for
roy,
so
we
will
move
on
to
christy
ross
who's
representing
the
mechanicsville
community
association,
as
legal
counsel.
K
Good
morning
co-chairs
and
members
of
the
planning
community
and
thank
you
for
the
introduction,
I'm
just
going
to
wait
till
my
deck-
is
up
on
the
slide.
So
if
we
can
maybe
not
start
the
time
clock,
that
would
be
amazing.
K
K
Next
slide:
okay,
excellent,
so
ass
has
been
stated
throughout
the
morning.
It
is
the
mca
position
that
the
subject
land
should
be
retained
is
green,
open
space.
However,
much
of
my
presentation
is
addressed.
Should
the
committee
decide
to
approve
this
application?
K
What
are
ways
that
we
can
mitigate
some
of
the
adverse
effects
that
we've
been
hearing
about
this
morning?
So
I
urge
the
community
to
consider
and
pass
the
motions
introduced
by
council
reaper,
all
three
of
which
sort
of
go
to
maximizing
green
place,
green
space
on
the
site
next
july.
Please.
K
So
a
key
way
to
increase
green
space
would
be
to
enlarge
the
federal
park
by
approximately
0.24
hectares
to
the
size
shown
in
the
scott
street
gdp,
and
you
can
see
that
in
the
top
map
I've
drawn
a
little
red
line
unmarked
by
a
green
arrow.
That's
the
the
size
of
the
park.
It
also
is
covered
in
motion,
one
which
includes
mapping
as
well.
K
I
note
that
both
the
cdp
and
the
scott
street
secondary
plan
contain
policies
encouraging
increased
park
land
and
they
both
make
a
direct
link
between
the
need
for
more
green
space
as
populations
grow
and
intensify.
A
point
we've
heard
several
times
this
morning
next
slide,
please.
K
The
second
way
to
increase
green
space
is
roy's
suggestion
in
his
presentation
to
introduce
corridors
and
provide
public
access
using
existing
utilities.
K
In
addition,
in
the
revised
planning
rationale
submitted
by
the
ncc,
they
indicated
that
they
would
potentially
consider
potential
access
at
board
and
handsheet.
So
that's
sort
of
the
first
arrow
that
you
see,
and
I
just
want
to
note
that
the
scott
street
secondary
plan
directs
the
city
shall
work
with
the
ncc
to
enhance
the
north
south
on
greenway
connection
between
the
ottawa
river
and
the
cdb
area
community,
as
well
as
increasing
connectivity
to
open
space
areas.
Next
slide,
please!
K
So
the
remainder
of
my
presentation
is
going
to
outline
some
key
recommended
changes
to
the
wording
of
the
zoning
bylaw
to
better
reflect
what
I
think
is
pretty
clear
wording
in
the
draft
op
language
proposed
and
also
the
commitments
made
by
the
ncc.
I
see
a
disconnect
between
strong
policies
in
the
opa
and
wording.
That's
not
followed
through
in
the
zoning
bylaw
and,
as
you
know,
section
30
sorry,
section,
24,
sub
1
of
the
planning
act
requires
that
zoning
bylaws
conform
to
the
op
next
slide,
please.
K
So
the
first
topic
area
is
respect
with
respect
to
the
new
sidewalks
and
psychopaths
the
opa
directs,
and
you
can
see
this
sort
of
on
the
blue
side
of
the
screen
at
causes.
Four
and
five
that
development
will
provide
for
an
improved
connection
with
pedestrians
and
cyclists
on
burn
side
as
well
as
that
the
intersection
of
sedel
and
the
parkway
at
clause
11.
You
can
see
that
the
opa
provides
for
a
gateway
feature.
K
However,
the
zoning
bylaw
does
not
require
the
construction
of
this
infrastructure
anywhere
in
its
wording
currently,
and
the
zoning
by
the
law
actually
permits
the
lifting
of
the
holding
provision.
That's
recommended
for
the
site
when
a
detailed
design
has
been
submitted
to
the
city.
However,
the
final
design
is
only
required
and
requested
when
the
last
lot
is
being
developed
and
there's
no
sort
of
link
towards
construction.
So
our
recommendation
is
that
the
rooting
should
be
in
change
to
ensure
that
all
of
this
infrastructure
is
designed
and
built.
K
So
the
next
slide
is
respect
with
respect
to
parking
subject
of
motion
three,
and
it
is
very
much
just
asking
for
clarification
that
an
above
ground
parking
not
be
permitted
on
the
site
and
also
some
some
changes
to
the
zoning
bylaw
with
respect
to
minimizing
surface
parking,
maximizing
underground
parking
next
slide.
K
So
this
once
again
goes
back
to
the
park
that
we've
been
discussing,
and
I
just
note
that
neither
the
opa
or
the
zoning
bylaw
sort
of
contain
wording
stating
that
development
will
provide
for
a
publicly
accessible
federal
park
and
also
that
the
federal
park
would
be
created
prior
to
lifting
a
holding
provision
and
we'd
recommend
that
that
language
be
incorporated
next
slide.
Please.
K
So
I
urge
the
community
to
provide
additional
time
between
now
and
city
council
to
refine
some
of
these
wording
issues.
I
believe
it
would
be
tragic
if
the
sidewalk
and
infrastructure
improvements
don't
occur,
because
the
zoning
doesn't
provide
clear
enough
wording
and
I'll
leave
it
there
and
subject
to
any
questions
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you
very
much
christy.
I
do
want
to
understand
in
in
more
detail.
We
have
a
concept
plan
that
shows,
for
example,
the
slidell
sidewalk
being
built
as
part
of
this
a
number
of
gateway
feature.
L
K
All
right,
that's
an
excellent
question,
so
I'm
going
to
link
that
actually
back
to
the
building
code
act,
so
the
building
code
act
states
that
the
applicable
law
is
actually
the
zoning
bylaw,
not
this
an
official
plan
or
a
secondary
plan
amendment.
So
I
sort
of
I
commend
the
really
strong
wording
that
I've
sort
of
included
in
my
presentation,
that
is
in
the
secondary
plan.
There's
a
lot
of
development
will
provide
and
it
provides
you
know,
cycling,
infrastructure,
okay,
not
gateway
structures.
K
I
think
the
gateway
sort
of
situation
is
not
mentioned
in
the
either
the
opa
or
the
zoning.
So
I
recommend
that
that
be
included,
but
it
certainly
does
talk
about.
You
know:
sidewalks,
cycling,
access
and
things
of
that
of
that
nature
as
well.
So
I
think
the
risk
here
is
that
if
this
is
not
specifically
included
in
the
zoning
wording,
I'm
sorry
I
just
I'm
going
to
correct
something
like
that.
A
K
K
If
I
can
put
it
that
way,
one,
I
believe,
just
from
what
I've
heard
from
the
ncc
and
what
I've
reviewed
is
that
I
mean
the
mcc
has
developed
to
the
concept
plan
and
they
will
be
then
tuning
over
the
individual
lots
and
sites
to
you
know
a
foreign
nation
to
a
new
developer,
the
city
and
the
ncc.
Have
you
know
a
pretty
close
working
relationship,
and
you
know
commitments
that
are
made
you
know
can
be
pretty
solidly,
I
think
counted
on.
K
Bylaws
so
that
they
understand
their
commitments
and
frankly,
they
won't
be
required
to
build
anything
that
is
not
within
that
very
clear
wording
in
the
in
the
zoning
as
well,
and
so
I've
sort
of
identified
like
if
you,
if
you're
interested
you
can
go
to
page
34
of
the
rewording
of
the
zoning
bylaw
and
the
way
that
sort
of
the
sidewalk
infrastructure
and
the
cycling
infrastructure
sort
of
tiered
there's
an
a
b
and
c
tearing
there's.
You
know
an
introductory
feasibility
concept
for
these.
K
This
infrastructure
at
the
first
application
of
site
plan
control
when
that
occurs
at
an
embassy
level,
moving
down
to
at
the
final
application
for
site
land
control,
a
detailed
design
is
required
and
at
which
point
that's
linked
to
lifting
of
this
holding
zone.
So
the
holding
zone
sort
of
acts
as
a
pause
on
development
in
the
planning
act
and
in
the
city's
official
planned
wording,
and
it's
used
when
land
can
be
put
to
be
used
in
the
future.
K
So
my
concern
is
that
if
this
infrastructure
is
not
required
to
be
not
only
designed
but
constructed
prior
to
the
lifting
of
a
holding
zone,
I'm
not
sure
who
would
need
or
be
able
to
do
it,
and
then
I
think
the
other
concern
that
we
have
here
is
that
much
of
this
infrastructure
is
sort
of
located
at
the
dell
and
the
parkway.
So
it's
adjacent
to
sort
of
the
federal
park
feature
it's
not
adjacent
to
the
embassy
land,
but
it
is,
I
would
argue,
need
it
in
order
to
actively
move.
K
K
So
logically,
it
seems
to
me
that
that
should
be
the
first
piece
in
the
plan,
not
the
last
piece
in
the
plan,
but
that
needs
to
be
built
and
in
place
before
any
holding
zone
is
lifted.
And
then,
when
that
occurs,
then
it's
more
appropriate
to
build
the
site
because
we
have
some
access
to
and
from
and
then
sort
of
a
lot.
You
know
division
and
individual
applications
for
site
plan
control.
K
Could
then,
you
know
more
logically
flow,
so
so
really
there's
that
concern
and
I
think,
there's
also
a
community
concern
as
well
as
well.
We
don't
want
to
have
to
wait.
You
know
x,
number
of
years
for
this
infrastructure
and
I
think
there's
the
other
thing
just
of
linking
that
final
design
plan
to
the
last
application.
K
It
it
sort
of
begs
the
question:
what
if
only
four
applications
are
received?
What
if
that
last
thought,
there's
no
application
is
sought
and
there's
no
interest
in
the
land,
then
does
nothing
happen.
So
those
are
sort
of
some
concerns
and
issues
and
then
I've
sort
of,
like
you
know,
taken
out
some
other
issues
with
the
zoning
bylaw
as
well
one
I
actually
just
found
today,
as
I
was
looking
at
something
else.
I
noticed
that
you
know
very
clearly
at
clause.
K
One
of
the
opa
heights
are
limited
on
the
site
at
three
stories,
but
once
again,
that
wording
hasn't
been
reflected
in
sort
of
the
specific.
You
know,
setback
columns
that
you
see
on
a
page.
I
think
it's
33
of
the
zoning
bylaws.
So,
there's
just
a
bunch
of
little
things
that
I
have
seen
the
fact
that
I'm
finding
new
things
suggests
that
a
little
bit
of
time
for
the
planning
you
know
department
in
your
office.
K
Obviously
the
ncc
we'd
love
to
be
part
of
the
process,
the
mca
just
to
go
over
and
make
sure
that
I
mean
there's
pretty
clear
commitments
from
the
ncc
that
these
things
will
happen.
There
will
be
a
part,
for
instance,
there
will
be
infrastructure,
there
will
be
sidewalks,
but
that
just
needs
to
be
buttoned
down,
because
I
think
I
mean
the
point
that
we've
heard
is.
This
is
sort
of
a
cherished
green
space.
K
It's
the
last
available
green
space
in
mechanicsville,
and
you
know,
obviously
I
support
enlarging
the
park
having
access
corridors,
but
it
would
also
be
really
tragic
if
this
infrastructure
and
these
community
benefits
aren't
built
due
to
you,
know
drafting
that
we
recognize
needed
some
work,
but
then
the
city
didn't
address
it.
So
I
would
just
implore
that
this
time
be
given
to
make
these
changes.
L
My
second
and
last
question
is:
I
do
have
a
motion
on
the
table
to
ensure
that
no
more
than
five
embassies
are
built
on
this
land.
It
looks
to
me,
like
the
the
the
zoning
bylaw
that
would
be
approved,
doesn't
have
that
protection
for
the
community
that
that
commitment
is
gonna
be
followed.
Through.
Does
my
motion
to
require
no
more
than
five
or
limit
the
number
to
five?
Do
we
need
that.
K
In
my
opinion,
we
do,
I
think,
it's
one
of
those
things
once
again.
That
was
clearly
stated
in
the
rewording
of
the
op
and
the
secondary
plan,
but
has
not
been
followed
through
with
respect
to
the
zoning
viable
wording,
and
I
think
once
again,
because
there
are
land
transfers
that
are,
you
know,
potentially
on
the
table
here,
I
think,
being
more
clear
is
sort
of
a
good
idea.
It's
like
a
measure
of
protection,
and
I
so
in
light
it's
in
instances
of
non-clarity.
K
L
I'm
I'm
not
going
to
take
you
through
the
the
the
long
policy
slide,
but
clearly
you
set
out
a
number
of
official
plan
and
provincial
policy
statement
policies
that
would
give
council
the
the
grounds
upon
which
to
refuse
this
application,
and
I
I
do
want
to
ms
ross.
L
I
I
think
that
that
has
been
distributed
to
everybody
on
committee
and
I
hope
that
everyone
on
committee
will
take
a
close
look
at
that
because,
of
course,
any
refusal
that
we
make
is
going
to
have
to
be
based
on
the
official
plan
and
on
the
provincial
policy
statement.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
K
Council
leaper-
may
I
just
have
make
one
short
comment
on
the
sort
of
the
policy
support.
Yes,
it
does
exactly
what
you
said
it
would
do,
but
would
also
provide
the
policy
support
to
support
your
other
motions
that
are
suggesting
increase
green
space
through
a
larger
park,
increase
green
space
through
less
service
parking,
and
it
would
support
sort
of
what
roy
was
asking
for
and
what
I've
asked
for
with
respect
to
better
access
corridors.
So
it
works
in
both
ways.
D
D
Mechanicsville
is
comprised
of
about
10
city
blocks.
Two
of
those
are
the
existing
la
roche
park,
so
about
20
of
the
community
is
already
green
space
and
then
there's
the
south
shore
park
just
north
there's
the
future
of
bretton
parks
of
breton
flats
west,
just
to
the
east
of
this
and
there's
lemieux
island,
which
is
not
a
formal
park
space,
but
it's
green
space
so
and
then
this
potentially
is
adding
additional
dedicated
park.
Space
christie
help
me
understand
like
how
is
this
still
a
deficit
of
green
space
for
the
community,
specifically
a
mechanic
stuff.
K
Sure
so
I'm
actually
going
to
I'd
have
no
visuals
for
you,
but
I'll
refer
you
to
sort
of
the
engage
ottawa
exercise
that
is
ongoing.
So
as
part
of
their
parks
and
recreation
master
planning
exercise,
they
did
an
analysis
of
people
per
hectare
and
parks
per
hectare.
So
the
recommendation
in
the
green
space
master
plan
is
two
hectares
per
1000
people
in
the
population.
K
So
if
you
go
to
that-
and
I
believe
the
data
is
october
of
this
year,
so
it's
very
recent
you'll
see
that
the
sort
of
the
ratio
for
the
mechanicsville
area-
that's
quite
clearly
marked
on
the
site
as
it
did
so
to
zoom
in
on
the
map,
is
less
than
one
hectare
for
one
thousand
people
of
population.
K
So
I
think
it's
just
that
we're
dealing
with
a
huge
amount
of
people
currently.
So
that's
the
current
current
current
data,
but
then,
of
course,
we
you
know,
we've
heard
about
the
growth
and
I
know
you're,
aware
of
the
growth
sort
of
in
this
area.
So
it's
just
it's
falling
way
short
of
that
and
that
target
is
going
to
be
carried
forward
into
the
new
sort
of
official
plans.
There's
that
and
then
I
think,
there's
sort
of
the
question
of
the
types
of
green
space
that
are
available
as
well.
K
The
roche
is
largely,
I
think
we
didn't
get
to
this
point
in
glory's
lori's
presentation,
but
it's
largely
not
all
of
the
time,
of
course,
but
rented
out
for
sort
of
community
activities,
sports
teams
and
that
sort
of
thing
which
is
great,
it's
wonderful,
very
useful,
but
isn't
necessarily
available
for
that
sort
of
passive
enjoyment
and
park
use
and
we've
sort
of
heard.
Yes,
there
is
the
pathway,
but
if
you're
not
a
cyclist
in
the
summer
or
a
cross-country
skier
in
the
winter,
maybe
that's
not
something
you're
using
either.
K
So
it's
just
the
need
to
have
that
additional
passive
park
space,
particularly
for
people
who
don't
have
private
backyards,
which
is,
I
think,
the
majority
of
the
investments
in
the
mechanics.
Failure
right
now.
D
Okay,
okay,
yeah,
even
even
increasing
the
park
space.
As
for
council
leapers
motion,
I
think
it's
0.25
hectares,
so
it's,
I
think,
an
important
increase.
But
even
then,
if
you
look
at
the
number
of
people
that
would
support
on
those
calculations,
it's
it's
not
that
many
people
anyhow.
Thank
you
any
other
questions
from
counselors.
D
Okay,
our
final
public
delegation
on
this
item
is
jane,
keeler
jane,
thank
you
for
being
patient
this
morning.
S
There
I
go.
Thank
you,
I'm
going
to
read
my
short
submission.
I
hope
short
enough.
I
am
an
ottawa
citizen.
I
have
co-founder
of
a
new
facebook,
page
called
urban
nature
action
network
ottawa
gives
you
an
idea
of
my
interest
and
with
landscape
photographer
jake
morrison,
I'm
the
co-creator
of
a
photographic
project
called
we
stand
with
the
trees,
supporting
the
preservation
of
trees
on
experimental
farmlands,
which
I
consider
are
threatened
by
an
inappropriate
hospital
development.
S
Lori
marlow
and
the
other
residents
of
mechanicsville
have
well
described
the
changes
that
are
happening
there
and
the
losses
and
described
it
with
facts
and
eloquently.
Although
the
loss
of
mature
trees
is
an
issue
in
every
single
community
across
the
city,
the
consequences
are
much
more
dire
and
immediate
in
communities
that
have
a
higher
percentage
of
low-income
people.
I'm
going
to
comment
on
the
rationality
of
making
moral
decisions
in
all
situations
where
city
decisions
must
be
made
and
competing
interests
collide.
There's
two
moral
aspects
of
decision
making.
S
I
would
like
to
speak
to
one
is:
what
should
be
the
weight
of
the
opinions
of
the
citizenry.
These
are
often
expressed
through
the
community
associations.
Have
we
heard
today
from
consultations
or
by
individuals
through
written
submissions,
petitions,
letters
etc
when
a
proposal,
whether
it's
from
a
a
proponent,
an
advocate
a
developer
from
the
ncc
or
any
other
governmental
agency?
S
S
I
am
speaking
for
the
position
that
climate
emergency
is
not
just
another
interest.
It
should
be
an
overriding
concern
in
every
city
decision.
My
question
is:
do
the
counselors
accept
or
recognize
the
imminence
of
a
worldwide
situation?
And
how
do
you
weigh
the
health
of
the
city,
the
health
of
the
ecosystem
and
the
health
of
the
citizenry
versus
such
other
interests
as
development,
expansion,
intensification
and
growth,
whether
these
interests
are
consequences
of
profit-making
or
institutional
endeavors?
S
Can
we
begin
to
imagine
that
city
staff
would
be
directed
to
place
the
ecological
concerns
for
survival
and
health
at
greater
priority
than
has
previously
been
acknowledged?
This
would
enable
our
city
to
be
more
sustainable
and
possibly
avoid
a
descent
into
a
kind
of
post-apocalyptic
degradation
which
we
can
see
in
part.
S
We
could
put
a
healthy
city
ahead
of
a
profitable
summit
and
stop
the
endless
struggle
of
some
concerned:
citizens
and
climate
scientists
to
stop
the
established
habit
of
the
city
only
being
able
to
allow
small
crumbs
of
green
space
while
permitting
repeated
rezoning
for
concrete
and
glass
towers
or
larger,
multiple
dwellings,
which
require
the
removal
of
mature
trees.
Please
consider
where
climate
emergency
concerns
should
rank
in
the
list
of
your
imperatives
of
how
we
make
municipal
decisions
and
what
is
your
own
ethical
decision?
Thank
you.
D
D
So
here's
where
we're
going
to
go
next
to
questions
for
the
applicant
and
then
questions
for
staff
and
then
discussion
and
debate
on
the
items
and
motions
after
this
item
we're
going
to
take
a
lunch
break
and
then
come
back
to
the
remaining
ones.
That
means,
if
you
are
watching
this
call
and
you're
waiting
to
speak
or
to
follow
along
for
the
bill
latham
file
later
on.
D
So
if
we
can
bring
the
applicants
back
on
screen
into
the
panel
counselor
leeper
has
a
question
to
start
things
off.
L
Thanks
and
I
I
won't
take
too
too
long
with
my
questions
for
the
ncc.
Thank
you
very
much
for
for
being
here
this
afternoon.
The
the
first
question
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
the
assertion
that
residents
have
made
that
there
are
no
plans
currently
to
actually
put
any
embassies
here,
you're
you're,
seeking
the
zoning
without
having
any
client
governments
that
are
seeking
to
build
here.
F
What
I
know
is
that
there
there
are
from
time
to
time
inquiries
with
global
affairs
about
where,
where
foreign
embassy
could
locate
or
relocate
and
that
those
are
those
are
active
conversations
that
that
then
come
down
to
the
ncc.
So
I
I
know
of
that,
those
conversations
are
are
ongoing.
L
All
right
the
why
here
there
are
ncc
lands.
You
know
right
across
the
city,
you're
gonna
be
redeveloping
the
breton
flats
in
a
in
a
very
interesting
way,
with
a
ton
of
space
here
in
the
next
few
years.
Why
why
these
lands.
F
These
lands
over
identified
in
in
our
planning
efforts,
the
the
capital
urban
lands
plan
and
the
the
ottawa
river
south
shore
park
plan
and
part
of
what
the
ncc
would
consider
in
terms
of
designating
lands
or
setting
aside
lands
are
factors
around
proximity
to
parliament,
hill
government
departments,
other
diplomatic
missions,
visibility
in
locations
centrally
located
and
and
ease
of
access
for
the
for
the
various
foreign
nationals
to
to
receive
receive
foreign
consular
representation.
F
So
this
is
they're
within
within
a
sort
of
a
normal
distribution
around
the
core
of
this.
The
city
and
they're
on
these
lands
are
national
interest,
land,
mass
and,
and
so
the
the
use
is
consistent
with
the
planning,
planning
documents
and
and
imperatives
of
the
of
the
national
capital
commission.
L
That
seems
at
least
partly
total
logical.
The
the
embassies
are
planned
for
here
because
the
embassies
are
planned
for
here,
but
I
I
do
recognize
that
you
cited
a
couple
of
other
factors
in
newark,
so
I
appreciate
that
there
was
a
an
assertion
made
of
of
the
risk
of
having
a
cluster
of
embassies
in
such
close
proximity
to
residential
lands.
L
We
have
heard
in
past
of
you
know
not
moving
forward
with
embassy
proposals
due
to
security
concerns.
To
what
extent
have
you
evaluated
whether
or
not
a
cluster
of
five
embassies?
In
addition
to
the
embassy?
That's
there
poses
a
risk
to
the
nearby
residential
area.
F
F
So
there's
no
demonstration
of
this
risk
from
the
from
the
diplomatic
missions
and-
and
in
fact
their
presence
is
an
integral
part
of
the
history
and
fabric
of
ottawa.
As
canada's
capital
city.
There
is
alignment
between
the
plans
of
the
ncc
and
the
city
that
this
is
the
case,
and
we,
you
know
we.
We
can
name
quite
a
number
of
of
of
embassies
that
are
located
within
residential
residential
communities
in
center
town,
in
sandy
hill,
the
golden
triangle,
new
edinboro,
center
town
and
and
and
beyond
so
they're.
F
These
are
dispersed
throughout
the
the
the
community
and
and
there
would
be
a
need
for
a
security
assessment
for
each
particular
proposal
that
would
come
forth.
L
Do
we
have
any
certainty
that
that
security
assessment
would
actually
take
place
before
a
site
plan
were
approved.
L
Okay,
so
there
are,
I
have
a
number
of
motions
on
the
table.
I
I
wish
we'd
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
those
prior
to
to
this
meeting.
First,
making
the
park
consistent
with
the
size
that
was
shown
to
the
community
in
2014
in
the
secondary
plan.
F
The
this
community
design
plan
was
done
at
a
time
when
the
ncc
was
getting
ready
to
do
its
plan
for
the
for
the
lands
and-
and
there
was
a
communication
saying
that
that
the
was
a
little
bit
premature
to
be
making
the
decisions
on
the
federal
lands
in
the
context
of
the
municipal
documents.
F
Be
that
as
as
it
may,
what
we
have
come
up
with
through
our
planning
is,
is
a
park
plan
that
pardon
me
I'll.
Just
refer
to
the
ottawa
river
south
shore
riverfront
park
plan,
which,
which
showed
that
portion
being
a
green
space
and
and
the
the
concept
plan
that
we've
put
forth,
is
in
keeping
with
the
ottawa
river,
south
shore
riverfront
park
plan
and
that's
what
we
we
are
planning
to
go
with.
Well,
we
intend
to
continue
with
as
to
establish
the
consistency
of
this
particular
proposal
that
we're
discussing
today.
L
I'm
not
sure
the
consistency
with
plans
is
a
is
a
good
rationale
for
disagreeing
with
making
a
slightly
larger
park.
Does
the
if
this
park?
If
my
colleagues
agree
with
me
that
this
should
be
made
consistent
with
the
secondary
plan
and
past
the
motion
that
I
have
on
the
table
today
I
mean:
what
is
that
the
impact
on
me,
the
actual
viability
of
the
site
for
your
embassies?
Could
you
get
a?
Can
you
design
around
that.
F
That's
a
good
question.
So
if
you'll
note
the
there
are
the
the
the
easements,
the
sewers
and
so
on
that
that
are
there
and
and
if
we
were
to
change
the
the
boundary
of
the
park,
it
may
make
the
one
of
the
the
embassy
sites
not
viable.
Okay
and.
J
Yeah
thanks
andrew
and
through
the
chair,
you
know
we
have
3.7
hectares
of
land
in
overall
and
what
we're
proposing
to
dedicate
is
about
6
600
square
meters
for
that
federal
park
space.
The
the
natural
division
line
would
be
that
easement,
as
people
have
discussed
over
the
course
of
this
discussion,
which
leaves
approximately
30.
J
You
know
three
hectares
of
land
for
five
embassies
and
roughly
1.5
acres
per
per
site,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
when
you
know
when
when
we
were
preparing
the
concept
plan,
we
were
looking.
Also
at
you
know,
what's
the
indian
indonesian
embassy
and
what
you
know
the
size
of
that
parcel
is,
and
this
is
roughly
the
same
size
as
that
parcel
land,
so
the
needs
of
the
nation
are
are
also
taking
place
here.
J
We're
trying
to
consider
the
size
of
these
parcels
overall
with
regards
to
how
many
we
could
provide
for
so
1.5
acres
being
the
limit,
and
that
is
taking
into
account
those
generous
buffers
to
the
to
the
parkway.
F
We've
considered
this
carefully
and
we
could.
We
could
live
with
with
something
along
those
lines.
L
Okay
and
then
the
the
final
piece
was
strongly
encouraging
the
strongly
encouraging
the
burial
of
parking,
which
I
understand
would
be
challenging,
but
the
sort
of
explicit
removal
of
encouragement
to
put
the
parking
in
a
parkade.
I
I
don't
think
it
is
your
intent
to
have
a
parkade,
and
I
would
hope
that
you
could
live
with
that
language.
F
First,
first
to
address
that
you
know
the
the
concern
that
came
up
in
your
comments
and
then
and
not
those
of
miss
ross
about
parkades.
No,
the
the
ncc
is
not
looking
to
build
above
ground
park
aids
here.
The
the
language
that
is
in
the
in
the
document
is
speaking
of
how,
to
you
know,
incorporate
the
parking
within
a
building.
I
could
be
at
the
ground
level,
but
it's
not
to
build
bark
parkade.
F
What
what
we
want-
and
I
think
this
is
a
common
goal-
is
to
ensure
that
the
the
appearance
of
parking
is
is
minimized
to
the
the
greatest
extent.
F
So
there
to
put
it
underground,
may
be
a
solution
on
some
of
the
sites
on
others.
It
may
need
to
be
at
grade
and
screened,
and
so
we,
on
behalf
of
the
the
future
nations,
would
would
expect
to
have
the
flexibility
around
how
to
to
organize
that
parking.
Yep.
L
No
and
I'd
say
I
think
that
language
that
I
proposed
is
crafted
to
ensure
that
there
is
that
flexibility,
so
it's
encouraged
and
and
not
limiting.
Would
you
be
open
to
limits
on
the
amount
of
surface
parking,
though
I
mean,
obviously
the
the
very
first
concept
that
you
showed
to
the
public,
I
think
was
was
you
know
widely
derided
for
the
amount
of
of
surface
parking
which
you
know
is,
is
eventually
going
to
have
storm
water
management
implications.
J
I'm
not
sure
andrew,
if
you
want
to
take
this.
But
what
exactly
are
you
alluding
to
in
terms
of
the
maximum
number
of
parking.
L
Yeah,
would
you
be
over
the
course
of
the
next
couple
weeks
before
we
go
into
council?
Would
you
be
amenable
to
having
discussion
about
maximize
a
maximum
number
of
parking
stalls
per
spot.
J
You
know,
of
course,
we'd
have
to
look
at
what
that
proposal
would
be,
but
of
course,
you
know,
as
andrew
had
stated
that
the
intent
isn't
to
have
a
parking
lot,
a
buddy
in
the
street.
The
intent,
of
course,
is
to
to
to
hide
it
as
much
as
possible
and
minimize
the
amount
of
parking
and
allow
for
landscaping
in
yards,
for
example.
J
So
whatever
that
number
is,
we
could
have
a
look
at
it,
but
I
will
say
that
this
site
is
just
outside
the
600
meter,
radius
for
transit
and,
as
a
result,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
know
section
103
of
the
bylaw,
which
is
a
maximum
number
of
parking
spaces
in
relation
to
you
know,
development
would
would
be
applicable,
but
we'd
have
to
look
at
that
language
and
see
if
it
would
fit
the
needs
of
the
ncc,
and
you
know
that
those
host
nations.
L
Okay
I'll
be
asking:
there
are
a
few
things
that
I'll
be
asking
staff
to
to
take
direction
on,
as
we
sorry
go
ahead,
andrew
and
I'll
wrap
that
up.
F
Yeah,
just
also
to
say
that
what
we
we
want
to
ensure
is
that
is
that
whatever
parking
is
required
for
the
for
the
site
is,
is
managed
on
site
so
that
there
aren't
spillover
effects
into
the
into
the
the
community.
So
that
would
be
important,
and
so
we
would
look
for.
You
know,
guidelines
on
on
the
amount
of
parking
to
be
tied
to
to
rational
parking
ratios,
based
on
on
how
big
the
developments
actually
end.
F
Up
being
it
wouldn't
be
about
about
imposing
a
set
number
per
per
lot.
Okay,.
L
It
is,
it
is
one
of
a
few
areas
of
direction
and
I
hope
and
staff
will
take
to
work
on
over
the
course
of
the
next
week
and
a
half
for
you
and
I
I
would
hope
that
you
would
come
to
the
table
for
those
discussions
and
and
help
me
include
folks,
like
ms
ross,
with
the
with
the
community
association.
L
I
I
do
believe
that
the
language
is
lucy
goosey,
with
respect
to
ensuring
that
the
public
benefits
are
actually
built,
and
I
think
there's
some
drafting
that
needs
to
be
done
before
council,
so
that
the
community
has
the
certainty
that
it
that
it
needs.
I
think
there
is
some
discussions
to
be
had
around
parking.
L
L
L
If
it's
approved
by
council-
and
I
continue
to
encourage
my
residents
or
the
my
colleagues,
of
course-
to
reject
the
application
outright
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
chair.
Many
of
the
delegations
asked
the
city
to
reject
this
application
in
order
to
keep
the
land
as
green
space.
So
should
the
application
be
rejected,
is
it
the
ncc's
intention
to
keep
this
area
as
green
space.
F
The
the
ncc's
planning
policies
and
and
plans
themselves
have
have
have
been
clear
about
the
the
use
of
this
land
for
for
diplomatic
functions.
It's
it's,
not
the
the
ncc's
intention
to
retain
this.
For
for
green
space.
It's
not
you
know
it's
not
the
federal
park
itself
and
we
want
to
emphasize
the
the
the
efforts
that
that
the
ncc
has
gone
through
to
develop
a
really
thoughtful
park
plan
for
the
for
the
river
corridor
covering
220
hectares
of
land.
F
That's
a
significant
amount
of
land
and
the
the
kinds
of
improvements
that
that
we
plan
to
install
over
the
fullness
of
time,
improving
the
pathways,
creating
important
nodes,
animation,
access
to
the
water
and
safe,
safe
connections
from
communities
to
to
the
the
ottawa
river.
So
those
are
the
the
things
we
want.
F
You
know
us
all
to
be
focusing
on
in
this,
not
specifically
this
parcel,
but
the
the
the
the
other
benefits
that
that
will
come
from
implementation
of
the
the
park
plan
and
we
are
a
public
ins
public
body.
Much
like
the
the
city
with
with
you
know,
needs
that
around
budgeting
and
we
under,
I
think
we
all
understand,
as
as
organizations
that
have
long-term
plans
and
that
that
need
time
to
to
fulfill,
we
will
work
on
those
on
those
other
pieces.
As
time
goes
on.
H
Okay
appreciate
that
response,
you
know
I
would,
as
an
east
end
counselor.
I
would
be
remiss
not
to
point
out
that
this
is
almost
a
complete
reversal
of
the
situation
we
find
ourselves
in
with
option
seven.
H
You
know
where
the
public
interest
is
in
much
needed
infrastructure,
but
the
ncc's
position
is
to
protect
green
space,
so
you
know
I
am
finding
it
difficult
to
be
sympathetic
to
this
application,
knowing
that,
up
to
this
point,
the
ncc
has
not
been
cooperating
and
holding
up
and
and
is
holding
up
all
of
our
transit
and
transportation
options
for
the
east
end
and
really
preventing
us
from
from
developing
in
a
healthy
way.
So
I
would
just
ask
it
to
keep
that
in
mind
as
negotiations
continue.
Thank
you.
A
Chair
I
wanted
to,
I
guess,
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
what
I
see
is
the
main
issue
here,
which
is
which
is
the
the
loss
of
green
space
in
in
the
core
and
other
alternatives
for
where,
where
to
put
these
embassies
the
I
have
a
lot
of
embassies
in
my
in
my
work.
There
are,
I
I
I
don't.
A
I
don't
have
the
most,
but
I
have
many
in
the
city
they're
interspersed
throughout
my
work,
they're,
sometimes
they're,
sometimes
in
residential
neighborhoods,
there
might
be
one
amongst
other
residential
homes.
A
And
riverdale
and
we've
got
many
others
that
kind
of
intersperse
with
within
communities.
My
concern
is
not
so
much
any
any
threat
or
anything
like
that
that
was
mentioned
earlier
around.
You
know
terrorism
or
anything
like
that.
I
think
that
there
are,
there
are
lots
of
examples
in
the
city.
My
overarching
concern
is:
is
the
green
space
and
the
the
loss
based
on
the
intensification
that's
going
to
be
coming
here?
We've
got
a
lot
coming
in.
A
There
is
going
to
be
many
more
units
that
come
in
here,
and
this
is
an
area
that
we
say
within
the
new
official
plan.
We
want
walkable
amenity,
space,
recyclable,
close
proximity
to
transit.
All
of
those
things
are
are
true
here
and
what
we
would
be
doing
is
is
putting
in
non-dense.
A
Embassies
in
those
areas,
rather
than
protecting
city
residents
with
appropriate
existing
green
space
with
a
use
that
seems
like
it
can
be
done
elsewhere,
where
we
would
not
disrupt
green
space.
So
I
guess
the
question
to
the
ncc
is
or
staff
is:
is
there
not
a
place
that
these
could
go
that
would
not
disrupt
green
space
where
you
already
have
land
that
is,
is
not
as
well
utilized
as
this
that
would
not
block
off
access
for
a
relatively
lower
income
community
compared
to
others.
A
Is
there
not
another
spot
that
you
could
do
this?
That
would
that
would
preserve
those
those
areas
and
wouldn't
have
the
challenges
that
we're
seeing
with
public
concern
on
on
this
site.
J
Well,
yeah,
I
mean
if
the
question
is:
is
there
another
spot?
I'm
not
sure.
If
you
know
andrew
wants
to
answer
that,
one
or
not,
but
with
regards
to
the
loss
of
the
green
space-
and
you
know
I
I
do
sympathize
with
residents
that
it
is
a
loss
of
some
green
space,
but
I
don't
think
the
this
site
was
ever
intended
to
be.
J
You
know
a
municipal
park
and,
and
it
isn't,
these
are
federally
owned
lands
and-
and
in
fact,
if
you
were
to
you,
know,
visit
the
site,
you'll
see
that
it's
fenced
off,
though
you
know,
you
can't
access
it
and
it
is
being
used.
J
You
know,
I
think
the
focus
needs
to
be
on
also
what
we're
providing
in
terms
of
park
space
and
there
is
going
to
be
a
significant
federal
park
space
that
will
be,
I
guess,
implemented
through
the
opa
and
zoning
just
north
of
la
roche
park
and
that
park
space
in
itself
is
is
66
100
square
meters
which
isn't
a
tiny
space
and
again
to
be
programmed
along
the
edges
to
improve
connectivity
to
even
larger
green
space
network,
which
is
the
ottawa
river
parkway.
J
You
know
I
do
understand
that
residents
are
have
concerns
currently
with
la
roche
park
being
under
construction
and
and
limit
island
being
closed
for
now.
These
are
all
obviously
temporary
closures
and-
and
you
know,
would
would
be
back
in
full
force
in
effect
in
in
a
couple
of
years,
from
my
understanding,
but
but
I
do
want
to,
I
guess-
re-establish
or
reinforce
the
fact
that
there
will
be
a
park
space
as
part
of
this
and
and
it
represents
you
know.
J
If
we
were
applying
the
the
parkland
dedication
bylaw
to
the
site
and
to
the
3.7
hectares,
it
would
actually
be
17
of
the
land.
So
it's
not
insignificant.
It's
it's
something
worth
noting,
and
maybe
I'll
leave
it
to
andrew
to
to
follow
up.
If
he
has
any
other
comments.
F
Yes,
thanks
on
the
the
issue
of
green
space,
we
note
that
the
city
of
ottawa
is
working
on
its
parks
and
recreation
facilities,
master
plan,
and
so
it
is
incumbent
upon
the
city
to
provide
green
space
for
residents
in
in
function
of
the
the
intensification
that's
going
on
across
the
city.
F
Those
are
the
city's
policies
and,
and
the
city
needs
to
do
its
part-
to
create
the
the
green
spaces
that
that
serve
residents
back
to
the
parks
and
recreation
facilities,
master
plan,
which
which
has
a
staff
report
out
right
now,
where
the
ncc
had
made
had
made
representations
on
that,
and
we
see
us
see
that
that
was
carried
into
the
staff
report
and
some
of
the
wording
there
acknowledges,
while
the
existing
green
space
is
well
used
by
residents
in
a
park-like
manner.
The
land
is
a
vacant
plot,
not
a
municipal
park.
F
These
lands
are
are
exempt
from
parkland
dedication,
and
so
I
wanted
to
just
acknowledge
that
in
the
city's
staff
report.
For
that
other
plan,
the
parks
and
recreation
facilities
master
plan,
it's
acknowledged
that
the
this
particular
piece
of
land
is
federal
and
it's
not
a
park
to
be
considered
in
in
the
municipal
calculations.
A
It
just
it
just
concerns
me
and
I
did
not
get
an
answer
to
the
alternative
locations,
but
it
just
concerns
me
because
we're
it's
a
precinct
right,
it's
200
trees,
we're
losing.
It
is
a
lot
of
open
space
that
that
would
be
lost.
I
have
other
ncc
lands
in
my
area
with
paterson
creek.
We
just
did
add
a
a
bistro
there
and
but
it's
a
fairly
small
area
confined.
A
This
is
the
taking
up
of
a
vast
amounts
of
of
green
space
and
and
a
lot
of
treat
area
with
primary
access
to
the
river.
So
I
guess
the
question
remains.
A
F
The
the
application
that
we're
we're
dealing
with
is
for
the
the
embassies
on
this
particular
site,
and
I
I
know
that
that
other
sites
have
been
have
been
blue
skied
in
terms
of
you
know,
breton
for
instance,
or
or
or
tony's
bastard,
but
those
are
planned
for
other
uses,
and
so
it's
there
are
not
that
many
options
and
the
the
I
go
back
to
the
mandate
of
the
of
the
ncc
and
its
policies
around
being
responsible
for
finding
lands
that
that
fulfill
our
vienna
convention
obligations.
L
Thanks
just
to
come
back
to
the
parking
I've
had
some
correspondence.
I
think
the
the
the
fear
or
concern
is
is
around
an
above-ground
parking
structure
and
I'm
wondering
if
the
ncc
would
be
more
amenable
to
a
motion
that,
rather
than
encouraging
below
ground
parking
or
whatever
that
language
is
precludes
a
parkade
on
these
properties
through
the
zoning.
F
That
sounds
reasonable
to
us.
We
we
don't
want
to
park,
aid
parking
could
be
underground
or
it
could
be
sensitively
screened
on
on
the
sites,
and
you
know
that
was
one
of
the
important
changes
from
the
from
the
initial
concept
plan
that
was
shown
with
parking
lots
in
front.
We
even
took
our
scratched
our
heads
and
said:
okay,
that
doesn't
really
look
look
right
to
us
either.
F
So,
let's,
let's
find
another
way,
and
we
have
provided
the
the
design
guidelines
that
the
ncc
would
would
would
use
to
evaluate
embassy
sites
and
that
that's
been
reflected
in
in
some
of
the
zoning
provisions
and-
and
we
would
expect
that
to
be
guiding
the
the
development
of
of
those
sites
in
the
future.
Okay,.
M
J
Yeah
just
quickly,
thanks,
andrew
and
through
the
chair,
if
you're,
if
you're
asking
a
counselor
about
an
above
grade
parking
structure,
you'd
like
to
see
that
prohibited
yeah,
I
mean
I
don't.
I
don't
see
how
that
will
be
really
truly
an
option.
I
mean
given
that
the
process
that
it's
going
to
go
through
not
only
site
plan
but
the
the
fluna
process,
which
is
the
federal
land
use.
You
know
through
the
ncc
that
process.
J
These
are
quite
rigorous
processes,
and
you
know
urban
design
is
a
key
element
to
to
site
design
and-
and
I
don't
think
that
the
use
itself
warrants-
you
know
a
a
big
imposing
parking
structure
again
we're
going
to
look
for
ways
to
mitigate
parking
and
as
it
appears
from
the
street.
But
at
the
absence
of
that
I
mean
I
don't
think
the
ncc
is
in
a
position
to
commit
to.
You
know
below-grade
parking
strictly,
because
it's
just
the
economic
understood
or.
L
Yeah,
no,
so
can
I
ask
eric
and
legal
and
sorry
allison
to
to
modify
the
motion
to
put
in
a
prohibition
against
an
above-ground
parking
structure.
I
think
we
use
parkade
as
a
zoning
bylaw
term
so
and
just
alert
for
my
from
my
colleagues
that
that's
the
motion
that
I'll
be
putting
forward.
Instead,
thanks
both.
D
Oh
councillor,
moffatt,
chair,
moffatt,.
A
Thanks
just
building
on
that
that
parking
discussion.
Obviously,
when
you
look
at
the
like,
I
realized
that
I'm
kind
of
bordering
on
on
a
bit
of
a
site
plan
discussion,
but
the
the
the
pictures,
the
images.
G
A
Seen
the
concepts
show
you
know
each
each
embassy
with
a
pretty
significant
size
parking
lot,
I'm
not
sure
how
it
works
in
terms
of
embassies,
collaborating
together
or
what
that
independence
has
to
be
from
one
to
the
other.
But
if
you
are
talking
about
underground
structure
for
that
for
those
properties,
is
it
feasible
at
all?
To
put
it
all
together
have
one
underground
parking
facility
for
the
five
embassies
when
it
comes
to
that,
so
you
can
actually
preserve
more
more
more
green
space
on
on
the
ground,
or
is
that
just
a
recipe.
F
F
Well,
on
a
on
a
practical
level,
the
the
developments
may
happen.
It
may
happen.
F
Over
different
times,
and
so
to
coordinate,
that
would
be,
you
know
possibly
challenging,
there's
also
the
the
vienna
convention.
I
did
a
little
bit
of
kohl's
notes
on
that
on.
Each
of
the
the
nations
has
got
to
be
respected
as
as
sort
of
their
their
their
piece
is,
is
not
to
be
well.
They
have
they've
when
they
have
an
embassy
there.
It's
it's
it's
under
under
their
control.
F
A
D
Thanks
chair,
okay:
well,
thank
you
very
much
matthew
and
andrew
we're
going
to
move
on
now
to
questions
for
staff.
Obviously
allison
hamlin
and
we
have
other
city
staff
on
hand
to
answer
questions
as
well
as
they
may
arise.
D
E
So,
mr
chair,
the
answer
to
both
those
questions
is
yes.
The
ncc
does
have
and
has
in
the
past,
appealed
planning
decisions
of
the
city
of
ottawa
to
the
ontario
land
tribunal
and
its
predecessors,
so
it
can
take
advantage
of
that.
The
ncc
is
itself
benefits
from
the
doctrine
of
paramouncy,
which
says
that
they
are
not
bound
by
provincial
legislation
within
their
area.
E
However,
the
ncc,
by
their
very
nature,
making
the
application
applications
to
the
city
in
the
past
has
generally
sought
to
abide
by
the
planning
act
and
the
building
code
act.
Mr
chair.
D
L
Thanks,
I
don't
know
if
any
of
my
colleagues
want
to
go.
First,
I've
got
about
four
or
five
technical
questions
and
then
some
larger
picture
stuff
I'll
proceed
so
allison.
I
guess
the
the
first
area
no
surprise
to
you
will
be
that
I'm
I'm
seeking
to
see
whether
you
could
accept
some
direction
on
the
course
forward
over
the
next
and
I'm
sorry.
When
is
this
intended
to
come
to
council?
Is
it
it's
the
two
weeks
three
weeks
october
13th
so
before
october
13th?
L
M
Certainly,
I'm
happy
to
work
further
with
the
ncc
and
the
community
to
resolve
some
of
these
issues.
However,
I
don't
I
do
not
support
the
the
the
inclusion
of
these
individual
access
points
through
the
in
between
the
embassies.
I
don't
think
that
that
is
actually
going
to
work
very
very
well.
I
don't
think
that
will
function
well,
I
don't
think
that
will
be
safe.
In
fact,
these
embassies
will
be
surrounded
by
walls
and
to
have
a
corridor
going
through
there.
I
don't
think
that
is
the
is
the
appropriate
place.
M
I
believe
the
connections
to
the
the
riverfront
should
be
along
the
street.
They
should
be
along
burn
side
to
parkdale,
along
burnside
to
slidell
and
across
at
the
intersection,
and
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
that
the
the
earlier
concept
plan
that
was
included
in
mr
roy
atkinson's
proposal.
It
showed
a
sidewalk
along
the
south
side
of
the
sir
john,
a
macdonald
parkway,
which
does
not
exist
and
that
which
the
ncc
does
not
intend
to
build
their
acts,
their
their
mobility,
their
their
multi-use
pathways
on
the
north
side,
and
so
taking.
M
People
through
this
property
would
lead
them
not
to
a
sidewalk
but
to
a
dead
end.
L
Thanks
austin,
I
I
do
respect
that
position,
and
I
I
know
that
you're
not
alone
in
feeling
that
it
actually
raises
more
problems
than
then
provides
benefits,
and
I
I
think
I
would
want
to
sort
of
work
on
that
pocket
park,
as
mr
atkinson
described
it
on
the
northwest
side.
But
if
you're
willing
to
work
with
me
on
that,
that
would
be
great
over
the
course
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
There
is
also
the
question
of
drafting
providing
language
in
the
zoning
bylaw
that
ensures
that
the
public
benefits
commitments
are
met.
L
L
I
I
trust
that
there
is
probably
some
cleanup
language
that
needs
to
be
added
into
this,
to
provide
the
community
the
certainty
that
those
benefits
are
going
to
materialize.
Would
you
take
it
as
direction
to
work
with
myself
and
ms
ross
and
the
ncc
to
find
some
mutually
agreeable
language
for
the
final
version.
L
There
is
the
question
of
a
security
assessment
that
a
cluster
of
embassies
presents
a
a
tempting
target
if
you
will
for
for
those
who
would
do
wrong
to
what
extent
do
you
agree
with
that.
M
In
the
zoning
bylaw,
we
don't
have
a
definition
embassies,
rather
it's
it's
an
office
use,
so
we've
been
very
specific
in
saying
offices
for
the
purpose
of
embassies,
as
the
community
had
requested
for
that
that
limitation,
but
we're
looking
at
an
office
use
here.
Diplomatic
mission
is
more
of
a
residential
use
like
where
head
of
a
mission
would
live
under
the
zoning
bylaw,
so
any
more
than
another
office
located
in
our
city.
I
don't
see
that
it
presents
a
security
concern.
L
In
2016,
the
rcmp
banned
more
embassies
on
sussex
drive,
apparently
because
of
a
concern
about
clustering
of
of
of
a
sensitive
use
that
having
a
lot
of
embassies
in
proximity
to
each
other
creates
a
a
potential
security
problem.
Is
that
not
legitimate?
I
mean
if,
if
even
the
federal
government
has
said,
no
more
embassies
on
sussex
row
on
sussex
drive
because
of
security
concerns
shouldn't
we
be
taking
that
into
account
as
well.
M
L
With
respect
to
parking,
sorry,
I
think
I'm
I'm
hoping
to
get
some
some
traction
with
my
colleagues
with
respect
to
the
parking
motion,
so
we
don't
need
to
provide
direction
on
that
front.
There
is
also
the
question
of
ensuring,
oh
sorry,
it's
part
of
the
infrastructure.
L
We
also
want
to
make
sure
the
language
is
a
little
bit
unclear
as
to
whether
or
not
the
federal
park
would
actually
be
provided
as
part
of
the
zoning
bylaw,
and
so
I'd
like
to
work
to
continue
work
with
you
in
case
there's
any
cleanup
language
that
needs
to
be
done
if
you'll
take
that
direction
as
well,
so
just
re-evaluate
that
language.
L
So
I
guess
the
big
question
that
I
and
and
residents-
and
I
think
some
of
my
colleagues
have
is,
in
light
of
the
climate
crisis,
that
we
declared
in
2018
that
should
give
us
pause
to
rethink
old
plans
and
in
light
of
the
pandemic,
which
has
taught
us
so
much
about
the
need
to
preserve
open
spaces
where
people
can
get
outside
and
and
in
light
of
the
clear
language
in
the
official
plan,
the
provincial
policy
statement
about
preserving
our
green
spaces.
M
M
M
Study
through
this
proposal,
the
types
of
institutional
uses
would
be
limited.
They
would
be
limited
to
embassies
and
through
the
site
plan
process
we
can
staff
can
look
at
how
these
would
be
developed
to
limit
surface
parking
to
increase
soft
landscaping
on
the
property
to
protect
existing
trees.
There's
language
in
the
secondary
plan
about
that
to
to
to
protect
existing
trees
wherever
possible.
M
L
It's
just
it's
difficult
for
registers
to
imagine
that
the
01l
zoning
would
have
been
exploited
by
the
ncc
to
build
a
a
prison
or
a
health
care
center
or
a
community
center
here
you
know,
whereas
embassies
are
firmly
within
the
ncc's
mandate.
I
guess
so
I
I
you
know
we
have
that
irreconcilable
difference
of
opinion
on
that
one,
those
yep
and
I
don't
think,
there's
any
line
of
questioning
that
will
that
will
get
us
to
to
agreement
on
that.
So
I
will.
I
will
stop
it
there
chair.
L
I
don't
know
if
there
are
no
other
questions
from
colleagues,
I'm
happy
just
to
quickly
provide
some
wrap
up.
I
think
the
issues
are
clear.
D
I
I
want
you
to
have
the
last
word
jeff,
but
I
had
a
couple
of
comments
overall
based
on
the
discussion.
One
thing
is,
I,
I
don't
think
it's
fair
to
say
the
ncc
does
not
care
about
green
space.
D
This
isn't
the
first
time
that
in
in
ottawa
that
there's
been
a
debate
around
embassies
versus
green
space
back
in
1987,
there's
a
spot
in
rocklift
park
known
as
mile
circle,
and
there
were
there
was
a
proposal
to
build
or
to
reserve
that
space
for
five
embassies
after
some
community
outcry,
the
ncc
dropped
that
plan
and
it
continues
as
informal
green
space
in
a
popular
spot
for
dog
walking.
D
But
I
mentioned
that
because,
yes,
the
ncc
could
have
other
spots
for
for
embassies
or
for
capital
uses
whatever
that
may
be,
but
not
everything,
not
every
piece
of
their
land
can
be
kept
in
perpetuity
as
green
space.
There
are
sometimes
legitimate
reasons
when
it
could
be
redeveloped
to
fulfill
their
function,
their
role
in
the
ncc,
the
role
of
our
city
is
the
nation's
capital,
this
site
being
south
of
the
sir
john,
a
and
just
on
the
edge
of
mechanicsville.
D
D
Housing
would
would
be
great
here,
but
ncc
has
brought
forward
a
proposal
for
for
embassies.
I
think
there's
better
potential
for
this
land
overall,
but
that's
what
we
have
in
front
of
us
and
obviously
the
ncc
believes
there's
a
need
for
more
sites
for
embassies
in
the
future.
I
do
think
the
the
motions,
the
directions
from
counselor
leaper
are
very
reasonable
and
mitigate
some
of
the
concerns,
including
maintaining
the
size
of
that
park
to
what
was
originally
contemplated
in
the
community
design
plan.
L
Thank
you,
and
I'm
just
going
back
and
forth
with
staff
on
the
the
parking
motion
to
essentially
find
the
right
wording
to
prohibit
a
parkade.
L
L
So
colleagues,
I
I
hope
you
can
support
the
three
motions
that
I'm
putting
forward,
but
I
I
I'm
going
to
ask
again
councillor
gower,
chair
gower,
raised
the
example
of
mile
circle
and-
and
you
know,
in
that
instance,
green,
space
and
and
space
to
walk.
L
The
dogs
was
protected
for
one
neighborhood
and
it's
it's
not
being
contemplated
by
this
council
to
provide
the
same
protection
to
mechanicsville,
and
I
think
the
residents
of
mechanicsville
are
going
to
find
reason
to
very
deeply
resent
that
for
a
very
long
time
and
when
many
years
from
now
mechanicsville
is,
is
much
more
heavily
intensified
than
it
is
today,
and
many
more
people
need
access
to
green
space.
L
L
I
showed
the
screenshot
that
shows
the
cooling
effect
that
that
green
space
has
in
in
what
is
otherwise
a
bit
of
a
concrete
jungle
in
mechanicsville
the
we
are
not
making
more
new
land
and
and
when
we
say
that
it
is
the
municipality's
responsibility
to
build
those
new
parks
to
meet
our
goals.
I
would
ask
you
where
the
city
of
ottawa
cannot
afford
to
buy
new
land
in
mechanicsville
right,
and
that
is
that
is
the
the
the
entire
issue
with
our
parks
and
recreation
master
plan
is
we're.
Talking
about.
L
We
cannot
afford
to
buy
new
land
and
mechanics
bill.
We
cannot
afford
to
buy
new
land
in
entenberg.
We
can't
afford
to
buy
new
land
in
westboro,
and
so
the
the
targets
may
look
good
on
paper,
but
I
don't
know
how
we're
going
to
achieve
those,
and
that
makes
it
all
the
more
important
that
we
preserve
the
land
that
is
available
to
people
today,
and
I
count
this
parcel
as
part
of
that
it
is.
L
It
is
critical
in
light
of
our
2018
discussion
and
in
light
of
the
intensification
that
our
new
official
plan
is
going
to
drive
that
we
preserve
this
space,
so
chair
I'll
I'll
leave
it
there
and
I
presume
we'll
vote
on
the
motions
and
then
on
the
the
the
overall
report.
D
Thanks
counselor
leeper:
yes,
so
we'll
go
through
each
of
the
three
motions
one
by
one
and
then
we'll
start
with
on
the
motion
on
increasing
the
size
of
the
park.
Eric.
Can
we
get
that
up
on
the
screen.
D
D
Carried
okay.
The
next
motion
was
the
limit
on
the
number
of
embassies.
D
L
Therefore
be
resolved
at
section
13
of
the
official
plan
amendment
is
found
on
page
30
of
document
2
be
revised
by
deleting
parking
is
encouraged
to
locate
in
a
building
or
underground
and
substitute
with
the
following
wording.
Parking
is
encouraged
to
be
underground,
sensitively,
screened
and
is
prohibited
above
the
ground
floor
parking
is
encouraged
to
be
underground
or
sen.
Can
I
just
ask
that
that
be
changed
to
or
sensitively
screened
and
is
prohibited
above
the
ground
floor?
L
So
this
gives
them
the
option
to
do
some
surface
parking
appropriately,
screened
as
they
said
they
might
be
exploring,
but
prohibiting
a
parkade.
D
C
Counselor
judas,
yes,
counselor
counselor.
N
L
A
G
B
F
Counselor
cube
hubley.