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Planning Committee - Agenda 40 - Thursday, April 8, 2021 - video stream
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A
C
A
A
A
Please
do
so
so
we
can
have
a
look
at
them
and
I
think
I
forgot
to
call
you
vice
chair
gower,
but
I
see
you
here
all
right,
any
declarations
of
interest
today
I
see
that
counselor
tierney
has
joined
us
as
well.
Bye
tim,
none
confirmation
of
minutes
from
the
meeting
of
39
on
march
25th
2021
any
changes
or
are
they
carried
carried
out
thanks?
Okay,
so
we'll
just
go
through
the
consent
agenda,
see
what
we
can
clear
up.
A
A
We
don't
have
anyone
speaking
in
opposition,
we
do
have
the
counselor
the
happy
counselor,
katherine
mckinnon,
and
we
have
speaking
on
behalf
of
foten
kirsten
and
timothy.
So
anyone
have
any
questions
for
the
applicant
no,
and
so
catherine,
because
you're
here
did
you
want
to
say
something
on
this
one
sure
just
very
quickly.
Thanks
thanks
chair
and
yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
this
is
an
example
of
the
type
of
development
that
we
we
wanna
see
in
in
center
town.
A
C
C
A
D
Yup,
thank
you
very
much
chair.
Both
I
I'll
speak
for
catherine.
Myself
are
supportive
of
this.
There
has
been
a
an
issue
that
has
arisen
from
those
commercial
operations:
restaurant
operations
and
city
center
they've
got
some
refrigeration
units
and
hvac
equipment
that
sends
some
disruptive
noise
across
the
tracks
to
the
town,
homes
that
are
on
the
hintonburg
side.
I
just
wanted
to
flag
with
with
the
city
that
that's
an
issue
that
we
need
to
address
over
the
over
the
next
little.
A
E
A
A
No,
so
chair,
I
just
wanna.
I
just
wanna
say
that
I
appreciate
that
the
the
the
applicant
had
reached
out
to
the
community
ahead
of
time,
so
a
lot
of
things
got
smoothed
out
in
in
terms
of
issues.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Sorry,
counselor
cabinet.
I
didn't
see
your
hand
there.
So
nico,
church
and
paul
block
are
here
on
behalf
of
foten.
A
A
A
Okay,
so
colleagues
on
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
963
hair
avenue,
is
it
carried
all
right?
Thank
you
item
number.
Six.
Is
the
zoning
by
law
amendment
for
35357
gardner
street?
We
do
have
a
delegation
by
chris
green
shields
from
the
vice
is
the
vice
president
of
the
vanier
community
association.
He
wants
to
speak.
D
Yes,
okay,
so,
whereas
a
technical
amendment
to
a
provision
in
document
2
details
of
recommended
zoning
of
the
report
is
required
to
clarify
the
intent
of
the
proposed
amendment.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
words
despite
subsection
139
3,
a
two
be
added
to
the
beginning
of
subsection,
139
3
b,
immediately
prior
to
the
words
the
garage
or
carport
may
not
be
more
than
0.6
meters,
closer,
etc
in
column.
D
A
C
I
just
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
planning
staff
for
recognizing
that
there
were
a
number
of
what
you
might
call
errors
or
flaws,
or
points
of
clarification
that
were
required
to
the
amendments
for
both
the
infill
amendments
and
the
r4
amendments
that
were
passed
by
council
last
fall
and
moving
quickly
to
try
to
address
those.
So
we
could
clean
the
bylaw
up
and
there
would
be
a
more
functional
bylaw
moving
forward.
C
Lastly,
though,
I
do
want
to
just
make
the
observation
that
I
I
don't
think
the
bylaw
is
perfect.
I
do
anticipate
that
we
will
continue
to
identify
details
of
the
bylaw
that
may
need
to
be
tweaked
going
forward.
So
a
planning
committee
shouldn't
be
surprised
to
see
possibly
another
amendment
like
this
coming
forward
down
the
road
once
we've
all
had
a
little
bit
more
time
to
work
with
the
bylaws,
the
ink
is
still
wet,
we're
still
getting
used
to
it.
We're
still
processing
applications,
we're
still
dealing
with
the
intricacies
of
the
bylaw.
C
A
Thanks
very
much
murray,
anyone
have
any
questions
for
murray
no
well.
Thank
you
for
that
recognition
of
the
work
the
staff
has
done.
I
know
that
you
know
the
city
of
ottawa
and
and
the
staff
in
particular
on
the
infills
and
mature
neighborhoods
and
the
whole
that
whole
package
of
work
that
we've
done
over
the
last
years
have
really
been.
A
You
know,
leading
in
ontario,
and
I
and
I
thank
them
and
yourself
representing
the
industry
for
all
the
work
that's
been
done
and
can't
go
without
saying
the
counselors
that
are
most
effective
for
them.
I
think
in
particular,
I
know
that
they
and
their
community
associations,
the
fca
under
the
leadership
of
sheila
perry,
put
in
a
lot
of
time,
and
I
I
thank
them
as
well.
B
A
A
G
G
G
What
I
call
the
ring
of
fire
with
new
buildings
and
residential
conversions
representing
more
than
2
300
new
res
residential
units
and
an
estimated
4
000
new
residents
in
quite
a
small
area.
These
will
have
significant
traffic
shadowing
and
other
impacts,
and
we
are
concerned
about
the
lack
of
planning
to
take
into
account
their
overall
impact.
G
G
Bca
also
argued
that
the
development
should
complement
the
other
three
corners
of
the
macarthur
vanier
parkway
intersection.
A
major
intersection
under
the
secondary
plan
maintained
the
public
realm
at
the
four
corners
and
the
intersection
modified
to
meet
policy
directions
for
major
intersections
under
the
secondary
plan.
G
Both
the
developer
and
the
vca
proposed
that
the
corner
park,
pork
chop
adjoining
the
development
be
eliminated
to
mitigate
the
development's
impact
and
lack
of
step
back
and
to
increase
safety.
As
per
the
secondary
plan.
Vca
hopes,
city
staff
will
ensure
compliance
with
the
plan,
which
will
also
better
situate.
G
This
development
on
gardner
the
project
would
better
integrate
with
residential
streetscape
with
further
setback
and
the
building's
transition
to
the
existing
two-story
buildings
to
the
rear
to
the
north
is
inadequate.
Rear
yard
balcony
should
be
eliminated
to
maintain
privacy
for
the
adjacent
residents
ground
floor.
Commercial
at
this
keysight
is
needed,
as
the
udrp
pointed
out.
Such
use
is
essential
to
promote
macarthur
as
an
active.
Traditional
mainstream
vca
welcomes
the
city's
intent
to
conduct
a
design
study
for
macarthur.
G
All
we
can
say
at
this
point
is
better
late
than
never.
Finally,
vanier
risks
losing
a
heritage
building.
I
don't
think
it's
referred
to
in
the
report.
We
ask
that
the
city's
heritage
authorities
to
consider
with
the
applicant
how
the
building
can
be
preserved
through
relocation
vca
expects
to
continue
consultations
regarding
the
site
plan,
control
process
and
the
enhancement
of
the
development
at
the
ground
level.
Thank
you.
Missy.
A
A
E
E
So
what
I'd
like
to
do-
and
I
wasn't
sure
how
this
would
play
out
this
morning-
I'm
I
guess
I'm
accustomed
to
the
old
style,
where
staff
does
the
presentation
and
sets
the
context
and
all
that
stuff.
So
what
we'll
do
given
that
we
went
straight
into
the
delegations,
if
I
may,
I
I
want
to
be
able
to
respond
to
a
lot
of
the
points
that
the
cons
the
community
association
has
made.
We
have
worked
with
them.
E
E
H
H
Right,
so
this
is
the
the
intersection
of
venue
park,
parkway
and
macarthur,
and
I
think
we're
all
familiar
with
it
and
some
of
the
challenges
that
exist
at
this
intersection.
So
it's
a
very
pedestrian
unfriendly
place
with
the
pork
chops
that
that
were
referred
to,
and
I
think
everybody
agrees
that
it's
not
a
great
pedestrian
space.
H
But
what
we
have
to
work
with
right
now
is
a
fairly
pedestrian
hostile
situation
and
if
you
look
to
the
building
to
the
right
so
on
the
northeast
corner
of
the
venue
parkway,
it's
an
office
building
with
an
attempt
at
some
some
pedestrian
space
out
in
front
with
a
big
sculptural
flower
pot
on
the
south
east
corner,
there's
some
residential
towers,
and
I
think
I
believe,
there's
17
story.
Someone
can
correct
me
if
that's
incorrect
with
a
big
retaining
wall
at
the
street
level.
H
H
So
what
we're
hoping
is
that,
with
the
cumulative
effect
as
this
area
gets
built
out,
will
be
actually
a
wild
improvement
on
what
we
have
now
starting
to
frame
the
street
rather
than
frame
it
with
retaining
walls
and
parking
lots,
but
to
have
buildings
with
with
clear
base
features
that
provide
a
shape
to
the
pedestrian
space,
to
carve
out
space
for
pedestrians
on
sidewalks.
That
feels
spa
that
seals
feel
safer,
using
planter
boxes,
changes
of
grade
and
and
a
column
feature.
H
H
Can
you
it's
falling
off
the
bottom
of
my
screen?
Can
you
scroll
down
there?
We
go
perfect
okay,
so
this
is
the
building
that
we're
proposing
and
obviously
it's
a
very
strange
block
or
a
piece
of
property
with
frontage
on
three
sides.
So
when
we
looked
at
this
property,
we
thought
okay,
how
can
we
do
something?
That's
most
appropriate
that
puts
active,
interesting
pedestrians
based
on
macarthur
and
respects
the
the
green
parkway
kind
of
character
of
the
vanier
parkway.
H
So
we've
got
plantings
along
the
venue
parkway
side
and
this
drawing
just
shows
the
trees,
but
I'll
bring
you
to
the
landscaping
later
in
order
to
have
that
green
corridor
effect.
On
that
side,
we've
got
lots
of
pedestrian
activity
on
the
macarthur
side
and
at
the
corner
facing
the
pork
chop,
which
we
hope
one
day
might
not
be.
A
pork
chop
and
you'll
also
see
on
this
plan
at
leading
toward
the
pork
chop,
there's
a
little
circle,
a
little
gray
circle
in
between
some
boulders.
H
That
is
a
column
that
we're
proposing
on
the
right-of-way
space
and
our
canopy
would
fly
out
over
the
right-of-way
space
and
city
planning
staff
have
agreed
to.
Let
us
encroach
that
way.
The
idea
is
to
really
reach
out
into
the
intersection
and
make
this
a
pedestrian
place.
That's
welcoming
to
pedestrians
and
to
build
into
that
future.
A
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
advise
you.
You've
used
up
your
five
minutes,
but
this
is
the
way
that
we're
going
to
so
it's
important
that
you
pick
up
speed,
but
I'm,
but
I'm
I'm.
You
know
dan
has
only
spoken
for
a
short
period
of
time,
so
I'm
going
to
let
you
continue
on,
but
I
would
suggest
that
you
know.
A
Because
you
have
other
people
signed
up
here,
so
I
can.
I
have
to
treat
everybody
the
same
way
and
I
think
it's
important
that
you've
laid
this
out
so
well,
because
I
noticed
that
people
are
watching
with
real
attention
because
it's
it's
nice
to
see
something
that's
different
and
treating
for
a
future
pedestrian
focus,
as
opposed
to
you
know,
often
what
we
are
dealing
with
so
go
ahead.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
H
Okay,
so
if
you
flip
forward
to
slide
six,
we're
we're
working
with
a
context
of
low-scale
residential
in
the
block
behind
us,
but
this
slide
shows
what
the
zoning
envelopes
are
for
the
future.
So
we
want
to
think
about
what's
appropriate
now,
but
we
also
want
to
think
about
what's
appropriate
in
the
future
next
slide.
H
There's
also
a
bicycle
repair
station
along
this
side
outside
and
behind
those
windows
is
a
bike
repair
space
inside
with
a
brightly
colored
wall
and
behind
that
brightly.
Colored
wall
is
the
bike
storage,
but
it's
really
kind
of
celebrating
bikes
here
and
making
a
place
for
bikes
in
the
front
of
the
building
and
for
those
kinds
of
activity,
spaces
that
have
to
do
with
bikes
next
slide,
please.
H
H
This
is
a
view
coming
along
the
vanier
parkway,
so
starting
at
the
top
you're,
quite
a
distance
from
our
building,
and
then
you
approach
it.
You
can
see
the
effect
that
right
now,
there's
that
green
buffer
on
the
left
and
as
you
approach
it,
we're
going
to
continue
the
green
buffer
in
front
of
our
building,
but
you
can
see
how
how
distinct
this
building
is
visually
as
you
move
along
the
venue
parkway,
and
so
that's
why
it's
been
designed
with
this
strong
vertical
element.
H
That's
that
draws
the
eye
and
contrasting
colors
that
are
interesting
at
a
distance,
as
well
as
a
pedestrian
friendly
up
close
next
slide.
Please,
actually,
you
can
skip
on
to
the
last
slide
slide
17.,
and
this
shows
the
landscaping.
This
is
up
to
date
with
all
of
the
landscaping
on
the
macarthur
side
in
front
of
the
plot.
H
The
the
trees
that
are
in
planter
boxes
we're
plant
proposing
to
plant
trees,
not
just
on
our
property,
but
on
the
gardner
street
side
in
order
to
reclaim
or
sort
of
imply
ownership
of
some
of
the
city
land.
That
is
to
the
left
of
our
building
here.
That
is
quite
misused.
Right
now,
people
tend
to
dump
garbage
there,
it's
a
bit
of
a
no
man's
land.
H
So
the
idea
is
that
if
we
treat
it
and
make
it
interesting
and
make
it
look
as
though
it
belongs
kind
of
to
the
building
and
and
give
it
some
loving
care
that
people
will
behave
better
there,
and
then
you
see
also,
on
the
right
hand,
side
along
the
vanity
parkway,
not
just
trees,
but
all
sorts
of
bushes.
Those
are
rose,
bushes,
chew
flurry.
You
had
asked
that
we
plant
lots
of
bushes
that
take
up
space.
A
E
A
E
E
I
know
it's
got
a
permission
for
42
meters
and
then
I
look
at
the
loblaw
site
and
I'm
going
to
call
it
one
day,
there's
going
to
be
a
proposal
for
that
corner
and
they're
going
to
put
something
there
so
from
a
pure
planning
point
of
view,
I've
always
liked
the
idea
of
announcing
volume
and
massing
and
a
little
bit
more
height
at
major
intersections.
It
tends
to
define
edges,
so
it
checks
off
that
box.
E
From
a
policy
point
of
view,
I
went
through
the
secondary
plan
and
and
chris
is
right,
there's
references
to
six
floors,
but
the
way
it
happens
is
this.
I
went
through
that
secondary
plan,
there's
west
sector
policy
and
there's
interior
interior
of
west
sector
policies
and
the
west
sector
policies
do
govern.
They
basically
say
anything:
that's
got
frontage
on
the
main
street.
Traditional
main
street
can
go
from
six
to
18
floors,
depending
on
lot
size
and
in
front
of
the
property.
E
Now,
in
this
case
here
I
spoke
to
the
author
of
that
secondary
plan,
melanie
knight,
at
the
very
beginning,
before
we
made
any
application,
I
said:
do
we
need
to
file
for
an
official
plan
amendment
application?
She
said,
no,
you
don't,
because
when
they
did
the
secondary
plan,
they
they
said
this
property
was
an
anomaly
because
it
doesn't
have
what
they
call
normal.
E
Traditional
main
street
frontage,
that
is,
the
access
for
357
gardner
is
off
gardner
street,
which
is
therefore
kind
of
an
internal
lot.
So
she
so
the
advice
I
was
given
is
that
hey
this
doesn't
trigger
an
opa,
because
really
it's
not
intended
to
be
affected
by
the
traditional
mainstream
policies
of
the
secondary
plan.
Given
the
configuration
of
the
lot,
so
I
said
well,
what
does
apply
is
the
interior
of
the
west
sector
policies
which
don't
deal
with
height.
Rather
they
deal
with
transition
to
low
rise.
E
So
on
the
on
that
issue,
the
design
you
know
is
going
to
be
eight
fla.
The
design
is
been
massaged
to
deal
with
the
transition.
We
do
recognize,
there's
two
and
a
half
story,
structures
to
the
north
and
the
way
the
design's
been
massaged
is
that
we've
pushed
the
main
building
back
the
main
wall
back
on
the
north
side
to
four
meters.
So
there's
a
four
meter
space
there
on
the
north
side
to
the
nearest
next
property,
where
the
ramp
to
the
garage
is
going
to
be
proposed.
E
So
there's
space
thing
there
and
then
the
other
thing
we
did
with
the
design
is
that
we,
the
ninth
story,
is
only
an
ask
for
the
the
south
part
of
the
building,
albeit
the
largest
part,
so
it
basically
is
going
to
step
down
so
nine
floors.
You
punch
up
nine
floors,
the
corner
you
step
down
to
eight,
which
is
the
permitted
height
today,
and
and
so
that's
how
we're
playing
out
the
transition.
E
A
A
D
Thanks
so
roslyn,
I
guess
on
the
south
face
on
macarthur,
I'm
I'm
comparing
this
building
to
some
recent
buildings
in
hintonburg
taggart's,
building
on
wellington,
with
the
the
stella
and
the
new
grocery,
and
the
success
of
that
building
was
a
a
change
in
materials
for
the
the
first
couple
of
floors
and
then
a
step
back.
I
don't
see
that
here
it
seems
to
rise
nine
stories
on
that
face
without
any
any
relief
for
the
the
pedestrian
realm.
D
Is
it
not
possible,
or
is
this
a
deliberate
choice?
Is
it
an
economic
or
a
a
budgetary
decision
on
your
part,
because
I
I
think,
if
it's
going
to
be
pedestrian
friendly,
that
you
need
to
break
that
up
a
little
bit
and
I
know
site
plan
isn't
in
front
of
us
and
I
don't
take
any
issue
with
the
zoning
exception.
But
since
we've
since
we've
seen
it,
I
just
wanted
to
raise
that.
H
Okay,
that
that's
a
great
question
is
my
speaker
on.
Can
you
hear
me?
We
can't,
okay,
and-
and
that
is
one
comment
we
got
from
udrp
as
as
well
and
as
a
result,
they
actually
had
a
a
specific
suggestion,
which
was
to
change
the
color
of
part
of
our
base,
which
we
have
done
so
we've
got
a
bit
more
contrast.
H
Now
those
were
the
udrp
images
that
you
just
saw,
and
so
the
scenario
here
is
that
the
the
hydro
wires
are
running
across
there
and
we
have
to
be
set
back
because
of
the
hydro
wires
and
the
they're
high
they're
quite
high
voltage.
So
we
found
that
when
we
tried
to
step
the
building
out
when
we
sort
of
try
to
negotiate
that
with
masons,
they
get
very
worked
up.
H
They
don't
want
to
work
that
closely
under
those
wires,
and
so
instead
we
said
okay
well,
if
we
can't
bring
that
out
and
we
don't
want
to
just
keep
endlessly
pushing
the
building
back.
The
idea
is
to
frame
the
street
and
the
zoning
actually
suggests
we
should
be
closer
to
the
street
than
that,
except
that
there
are
wires.
Therefore,
we
have
to
be
back,
and
so
instead
we
propose
those
two-story
windows
and
then
a
canopy
above
them,
and
those
two-story
windows
are
of
a
different
pattern.
H
Work
on
the
windows
to
set
them
apart
from
the
rest
of
the
field
above
and
they're
deeply
recessed,
so
they're
about
two
feet:
deep
with
pie,
lasters
and
then
benches
at
the
bottom
of
the
on
the
window.
Sills.
So
that,
though,
we
can't
come
out,
there's
a
a
real
sense
of
depth
and
there's
a
carving
out
of
people
space
into
those
windowsill
places
to
make
that
read
as
much
like
a
a
people
space
as
we
possibly
can,
given
our
our
site
constraints.
H
Yeah
so
then,
I
think
it's
just
a
balance
between
the
value
of
articulation
and
the
idea.
The
one
of
the
the
problems
of
the
intersection
is
that
it's
so
sprawling
and
so
spread
out.
So
we
felt
that
it
was
an
appropriate
kind
of
balance
to
say
no,
it
doesn't
actually
help
to
just
make
the
buildings
even
further
away.
D
Okay,
well,
that's
a
discussion
that,
as
you
continue
through
site
plan,
I'm
sure
councillor
fleury
will
continue
to
work
through
with
you
and
then.
The
second
question
I
guess
is
for
for
dan
and
and
for
rosalind
the
I
come
back
to
chris's
comment
with
respect
to
activating
macarthur
with
the
more
active
street
frontage
in
the
form
of
of
retail.
D
I
I'm
a
quiet
advocate
for
for
bike
infrastructure,
so
I
certainly
I
like
that.
But
you
know
this
this:
the
corner,
that's
crying
out
for
a
book
shop
or
a
coffee
shop
or
or
something
that's
going
to
become
the
first
step
in
in
making
it
a
more
interesting,
traditional
main
streets,
and
I
I
hope
that
you'll
ensure
the
design
is
flexible
enough
to
incorporate
proper
retail
at
some
point
down
down
the
road.
D
H
Yeah,
we've
absolutely
made
sure
that
the
design
is
flexible,
that
way
that
the
bike
repair
area
with
the
bike-
storage
behind
it,
the
bike
storage
at
some
point-
could
be
relocated
within
the
building.
If
we
wanted
to
open
up
more
space
there
for
retail
and
right
now,
it's
not
business-wise.
There
aren't
opportunities.
There
isn't
somebody
looking
for
retail
space
there,
but
we've
absolutely
wanted
to
make
sure
that
it's
possible
and
you
can
you
can
get
to
that
space
accessibly.
H
A
B
My
my
comments
aren't
to
the
applicant
or
questions
aren't
to
the
applicant
they're
they're
to
simon
first
off.
I
want
to
thank
the
applicant.
There
is
the
longwoods
development,
as
a
recent
building
been
been
put
up
at
the
end
of
montgomery
and
mayfield
and
macarthur,
so
we're
excited
about
the
occupancy
coming
in
and
what
that
will
do
to
the
community.
So
this
is
neighboring
to
the
site.
I
want
to
raise
a
number
of
points.
B
There's
there's
just
so
much
happening
and
simon
diaco
could
speak
to
the
number
of
applications
we
have
along
montreal
road
and
along
macarthur
avenue
it's
exciting
to
see,
but
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
do
it
right
and-
and
that's
I
think,
what
the
community
association
is
is
is
reaffirming.
Once
again,
I
want
to
raise
a
couple
of
of
questions
that
I
have
so
simon.
There
was
a
a
number
of
points
that
were
made
relating
to
existing
heritage
building.
I
know
that
ashley
had
done
a
review.
B
Can
you
maybe
comment
on
that,
and
I
don't
know
if
ashley's
with
us
and
then
the
other
one
on
the
commercial
just
we
know
that
we've
heard
from
the
bia
on
the
street
on
a
number
of
applications
along
macarthur,
where
the
commercial
space
wants
to
be
solidified.
So
could
you
maybe
speak
in
terms
of
how
you
see
that,
through
our
policy
and
specifically,
for
that
this
application.
F
Thank
you.
So,
on
the
first
point
of
heritage,
the
property
on
the
site
is,
is
not
a
designated
building,
so
there's
no
a
firm
protection
under
the
ontario
heritage
act.
It's
not
a
designated
building.
It's
on
the
heritage
reference
list,
so
the
the
applicant
team
is
aware
of
that
and
they
will
just
be
required
to
provide
proper
notification
before
the
before
the
home
is
removed,
which
is
intended
for
this
application
so
again
to
the
heritage
issue.
We
have
a
path
forward
on
the
commercial,
as
you
heard,
from
rosalind
and
dan.
F
The
r5
parent
zone,
which
which
again
this
project
is.
This,
is
re-establishing
the
residential
zone
provision
that
was
always
intended
through
the
secondary
plan
process.
There
are
built-in
permissions
for
non-residential
uses,
so
we
have
that
design
flexibility
through
rosalind.
I
think
it's
a
reasonable
approach
and-
and
the
forethought
has
been
put
into
that
ground
floor-
that
in
the
fullness
of
time,
when
that
need
is
there
that
that
capacity
is
there
to
see
a
commercial
use
it?
It
could
be
facilitated
in
the
ground
floor
of
that
building.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
B
B
Can
can
I
just
understand
what
are
our
authorities
under
the
application
to
to
get
those
design
changes
or
if,
if
not,
how?
How
is
it?
You
know
punted
into
the
infrastructure
team
at
the
city
to
seriously
contemplate
because
rosin
made
the
point
that
you
know
the
property
could
have
could
be
could
have
looked
very
different
if
that
that
additional
park
or
private
prop
like
pop
space,
could
have
been
created.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
mean
that
intersection
as
rosalind
took
us
through
is
a
very
complicated
intersection.
It's
it's
four-legged,
each
with
a
pork
chop
and
a
merge
channel.
I
mean
fundamentally
this.
This
application
hasn't
triggered
any
roadway
modifications
to
facilitate
it.
Everything
for
vehicular
access
is
in
is
in
the
internal
streets
along
gardner,
so
we're
we're
not
seeing
a
requirement
in
their
transportation
study
that
says,
modifications
are
required
to
facilitate
this
development
and.
A
Simon,
like
before
you
go
on
talking
about
the
road
and
that
really
isn't
part
of
this
application
at
all
interesting
counselor
fleury,
but
I
see
that
chair
of
transportation,
counselor
attorneys
going.
What
what's
he
talking
about
this?
Is
that
was
yesterday's
committee?
Do
you
have
any
questions
on
the
application.
B
No,
I
just
wanted
to
understand
I'm
sure
when,
when
when
there
is
an
application-
and
we
can
you
know
when
we
have
everyone
on
board-
it's
different-
if
not
everyone's
on
board.
But
how
would
we
go
around
providing
a
road
modification?
I
guess
they're
called
rmas
or
or
such,
and
I
think
simon
was
explaining
from
what
I
understand
at
the
vehicular
access
to
the
site,
because
it's
internal
to
the
community
is
a
bit
different.
F
Thank
you.
Potentially,
we
would
have
there.
The
the
idea
or
the
intent
of
a
traffic
study
is
to
outline
what
modifications,
if
any,
are
needed
to
ensure
safe
turning
movements
and
access.
We
don't
have
that
in
this
case.
They're
they're
quite
well
contained
on
their
site
and
we
have
no
concerns
from
a
traffic
impact
perspective,
but
I
mean
to
chris's
point
and
yourself
counselor
there
is.
There
is
certainly
a
policy
direction
for
that
intersection.
F
It's
it's
clear
in
the
secondary
plan,
but
that
intersection
needs
to
be
looked
at
holistically
because,
as
I
was
saying
earlier,
given
it's
given
the
venue
parkway's
function,
north
south
and
and
the
various
intersections
and
the
type
of
infrastructure.
That's
there,
be
it
the
merged
channels
and
turning
lanes,
you
can't
simply
start
to
look
at
removing
one
of
those
legs.
It
would
create
a
functional
nightmare
as
well
as
rosalind
pointed
out.
F
E
A
B
A
I'm
not
telling
you
what
to
do.
I'm
just
saying
that
what
the
questions
you're
asking
now
are
not
tied
into
this
specific
development,
they're
much
larger
for
a
discussion,
and
so
you
know
simon's
here
to
speak
to
the
application
before
us
people
the
delegations
here
to
speak
to
the
application
before
us,
we're
here,
as
the
planning
committee
to
receive
that
and
debate
it
and
vote
on
it
and
and
not
on
on
all
the
rest.
B
Okay,
I
just
think
it's
an
it's
a
unique
opportunity
where
everyone's
aligned-
and
it
would
have
you
know-
been
offered
an
opportunity
to
to
improve
the
infrastructure.
So
rightly
so,
too
counselor
leaper's
point,
I
I
there
are
a
few
elements
to
work
through
site
plan
and
I
know
that
I've
conveyed
and
my
community
has
conveyed
those
those
elements
to
simon
and
simon's
working
with
the
applicants.
B
So
I'm
confident
that
that
we
can
get
those
those
changes
and-
and
obviously
it's
interesting
a
day
after
the
hydro
pole,
discussion
on
hawthorne
that
we're
again
on
a
main
street
talking
about
hydro,
hydro,
poles
and
how
there's
there
would
have
been
additional
opportunities
here.
So
thank
you.
Manager.
A
C
B
Well,
I'm
sure
I
would
have
one
here,
I'm
sorry
I'll,
send
it
in
writing
afterwards,
but
I
can
sort
of
read
it
out,
say
it
out
loud,
which
would
be
what
elements
in
a
site
plan
or
zoning
review
can
can
implicate
changes
to
a
road
to
a
roadway
when
they
are
agreed
upon
by
the
city,
the
community
and
the
bia.
In
this
case,
I
just
want
clarity
on
in
terms
of
the
zoning
proc
engagement
process,
how
that
what
elements
are
are
actually
up
for
review.
I'm
I'm
confused
about
that.