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From YouTube: Planning Committee - April 9, 2020
Description
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas.
A
Okay,
welcome
everyone
joining
in
these
are
unprecedented
times,
and
this
is
an
unprecedented
day
for
the
planning
committee
today,
we'll
be
in
the
first-ever
planning
committee
meeting
conducted
completely
by
virtual
means,
which
is
necessary
in
these
times
of
physical
distancing,
to
keep
us
all
safe
and
help
flatten
the
curve
of
the
Cova
19
pandemic.
This
meeting
will
be
conducted
through
zoom.
Those
who
do
not
need
to
participate
in
the
meeting
can
also
watch
it
on
the
live
stream
to
the
city's
YouTube
channel.
A
While
we
appreciate
that
many
of
you
are
quite
comfortable
using
this
technology
by
now,
this
is
new
territory.
In
the
way
we
conduct
our
official
committee
meetings,
and
we
did
not
feel
we
were
in
a
position
today
to
accept
oral
submissions
from
public
delegations.
During
this
meeting,
applicants
and
general
public
have
been
encouraged
to
submit
comments
in
writing.
A
As
City
Hall
is
currently
closed,
the
public
we
will
be
working
with
the
clerk's
office
to
ensure
that
best
practices
and
technologies
are
in
place
going
forward
to
accept
remote
delegations
where
we
need
you,
but
for
today
we
will
have
to
defer
any
items
for
delegations.
Request
live
participation
again.
These
are
unusual
and
on
precedented
times,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we
have
the
time
to
learn
and
put
the
best
measures
in
place
for
future
meetings.
A
So
on
to
the
business
at
hand,
this
is
a
public
meeting
to
consider
the
proposed
comprehensive
official
plan
and
zoning
bylaw
amendments
listed
as
items
one
to
eight
nine
and
eleven
on
today's
agenda.
For
the
items
just
mentioned,
only
those
who
make
written
submissions
before
the
amendments
are
adopted
may
appeal
the
matter
to
the
local
planning
Appeal
Tribunal.
A
We
will
go
first
to
item
4,
the
15-minute
neighborhoods
presentation
by
the
Chaplin
Business
School,
following
that
I
would
like
to
consider
the
remainder
of
the
held
items
as
listed
on
the
agenda
with
the
exception
that
items
1
2
3
will
be
considered
last
unless
there
are
any
objections
from
the
committee
with
that
approach
and
I'll
also
remind
you
to
please
keep
your
microphones
muted
until
you're
called
on
to
speak.
I
will
provide
each
committee,
member
with
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
or
comment
on
each
item.
A
Committee
members
will
be
called
on
first
in
Ward
order,
followed
by
any
other
members
of
council
who
have
joined
the
meeting
in
Ward
order.
At
any
point,
if
you
want
to
speak,
you
should
use
the
raise
hand,
zoom
function
or
physically,
raise
your
hand.
Hello
and
I
will
be
if
your
video
feed
is
on
the
committee
coordinator
more
than
me,
because
I'm
looking
at
both
16
piles
of
paper
right
here,
we'll
be
watching
for
those
queues.
The
usual,
if
I've
been
speaking
limit
by
this
is
all
new,
but.
A
All
of
the
rest,
these
solution-
things
will
be
better
for
it.
So
the
agenda
can
we
do
a
roll
call
so
that
everybody
knows
who
is
who
is
of
the
committee
first
of
all
and
then
any
counselors
that
are
signed
on
on
so
I
could
use
the
voting
sheet.
If
you
want
I
have
councillor
Judas
is
here,
I
see
counter
sure
le.
Are
you
here?
C
B
E
F
A
A
A
All
right,
so
the
first
item
is
a
temporary
zoning
bylaw
amendment
to
permit
park
and
cycle
first
of
its
kind
in
Ottawa
non
accessory
parking
at
Andrew,
Hayden
Park,
which
is
at
3169
carling
avenue,
and
the
purpose
is
sought
for
Android,
so
daytime
commuters
can
park
there
and
cycle
downtown
along
the
multi-use
pathway.
The
change
affects
twelve
out
of
the
parking
lots,
275
spaces,
two
of
which
would
be
combined
into
one
accessible
parking
space.
We're
not
having
a
presentation
on
this.
We
did
receive
correspondence
from
Trevor
hashe
yesterday
on
this
item.
B
G
B
G
Thank
you
very
much.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
team
for
putting
this
together.
You
mentioned
that
this
will
be
Parkin
cycle
for
downtown,
but
I
expect.
It
also
will
be
her
D&D
as
well
since
of
the
proximity,
but
this
was
initiated
by
councillor
Wilkinson
and
it
doesn't
really
affect
my
word
directly.
It
will
probably
be
it
much
much
more
of
a
health
to
those
further
west,
such
as
councillor,
suds
and
and
councillor
who
bleep
so
anyway.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
staff
for
their
work
on
this
and.
A
G
A
B
A
C
A
Next
item
is
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
287
Windsor
Street.
This
was
postponed
from
the
February
27th
meeting
that
we
were
supposed
to
have
I
think
we
had
a
snowstorm.
That
day.
Purpose
of
this
report
seeks
the
zoning
amendment
to
add
parking
garage
as
a
permitted
use
within
its
16
story.
Residential
building
on
wesker
street
east
of
Bank
Street.
The
108
unit
tower
has
four
levels
of
underground
parking
and
the
zoning
bylaw
requires
at
least
43
residents
faces
and
eight
visitor
spaces.
A
A
H
B
A
A
Next
is
the
r4
zoning
review
phase.
2
updates
will
hold
Vista
asset
presentation
and
next
is
the
provincial
policy
statement.
We
have
a
presentation
on
file
on
this
one.
This
is
the
Donder
wires
going
to
be
providing
us
an
update
on
the
new
2020
provincial
policy
statement,
which
was
released
by
the
province
in
January,
so
we'll
hold
that
one
for
Dawn's
presentation
as
well.
A
Number
seven
is
the
modification
to
building
plan.
Amendment
number
136
regarding
the
minimum
building
heights
in
Kannada
town
centre.
Purpose
of
this
report
seeks
approval
for
a
modification
to
official
plan,
Opa
136,
to
be
approved
by
the
local
planning
Appeal
Tribunal
in
September
of
2014
Council
adopted
OPA
136,
which
amended
the
kanata
town
centre
secondary
plan,
among
other
things,
require
a
minimum
building
height
of
3
storeys.
A
We're
not
going
to
have
a
presentation
on
this.
I
will
tell
you
that
correspondence
that
we
should
have
seen
from
March
and
Raj
mana
Don,
who
is
and
Ursula
Mellon's,
who
is
with
solloway
right.
She
was
speaking
in
support
for
rich
brat
and
Trevor
hashe
in
his
email
on
a
few
items.
Yesterday
we
heard
from
him
as
well.
Does
anyone
want
to
hold
this
item
kills
her
sons?
Did
you
want
to
say
a
few
words?
Is
this
the
item
that
you're
here
for
today
or
is
it?
B
G
C
B
C
B
G
A
A
A
Okay,
so
is
this
item
okay
and
is
mr.
mark
on
the
line?
Yes,
do
you
need
a
recorded
vote
I'm
thinking
to
myself,
you
must
need
a
reported
vote
recorded
vote
for
purposes
of
knowing
who's
voting
for
one
thing
and
whether
you
know
the
formality,
if
you
don't
that's
great,
but
can
you
comment
on
that
place
where.
I
B
A
J
A
A
A
Okay!
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
the
2019
annual
report.
Pursuant
to
the
building
code
act
1992-
and
this
is
we
have
this
regularly
before
us-
it
presents
information
on
building
permit
fees
collected,
as
well
as
the
cost
of
serving
building
servicing
building
permits
and
enforcing
the
building
code
act
and
Ontario
Building
Code
I've
had
no
requests
to
speak.
Do
any
of
you
have
any
questions.
C
A
A
The
next
item
is
in
counselor,
flurries,
Ward,
263,
Greene's
way:
Avenue
Oh.
Yesterday
we
received
comments
from
Dennis
Jacobs.
A
council
resolution
is
sought
so
that
the
committee
of
adjustment
can
consider
minor
variance
is
related
to
the
number
of
parking
spaces
at
a
plant
six
apartment
at
263
Green's
way.
Avenue.
A
A
So
melody,
I
imagine
that
the
only
person
that's
missing
now
is
counts
too
sure
le
right.
Everybody
else
is.
That
is
correct.
Okay,
perfect!
The
next
item
is:
has
councillor
McKinney
joined
us,
yet
she
has
okay
good
because
good
thick
councillor
McKinney,
because
this
is
your
item
here
near
mural-
the
exemption
to
the
permit
signs
on
private
property,
bylaw
residential
mural
at
164,
Arthur,
Street
and
you're-
bringing
this
forward.
Why
don't
you
introduce
it
if
you'd
like?
Oh.
G
Sure
this
is
I
mean
it's
pretty
straightforward.
I
think
that
some
of
my
are
looking
to
the
west
into
Hintonburg
to
see
what
was
done
on
some
of
the
private
walls.
There
Thank
You
councillor
Lippert,
and
so
this
is
just
to
allow
for
mural
on
that
private
residence
on
our
street,
which
is
saying
well
Chinatown,
which
has
as
he
is
you.
What
probably
well
no
has
a
lot
of
murals
Chinatown
was
kind
of
I
think
that
the
first
traditional
Main
Street
to
bring
in
artists
and
really
colored
things
up
that
way.
G
So
this
is
gone
out
to
the
community
everybody
likes
it.
I
will
reiterate,
I
think
what
a
concert
new
per
se
that
one
at
one
time
I
think
that
maybe
a
more
blanket
policy
we'll
have
to
start
looking
at,
as
these
things
become
more
and
more
popular,
but
certainly
there
was
there
was
no
issue
with
it
and
yeah
yeah
strongly
supporting.
So
hopefully
we
got
it
through
today
through
council
and
a
little
bit
of
color
Jared
hi
when
we
need
it.
Thank
you,
I'm,
coming
back
for,
let's
go
straight
away,
not
true
yeah
yeah.
We.
B
A
On
this
item
on
the
on
that
councilor
McKinney's
mural
at
164,
Arthur
Street
is
a
carry
carried
no
dissents.
Thank
you.
Okay.
Then
we
have
some
a
couple
of
IP
DS
information
previously
distributed.
If
anyone
wants
to
to
have
either
of
these
before
us
for
discussion
today,
the
approval
of
two-thirds
of
those
present
and
voting
is
required.
The
first
one
is
the
routine
report,
which
is
the
cache
and
rule
of
parkland
and
the
other
one
is
a
proposed
regulatory
matters
pertaining
to
community
benefits,
Authority
who
did
receive
correspondence
as
part
of
but
Trevor
Hayes
correspondence.
A
Yesterday
he
also
touched
on
this
side
and
he
was
asking
about
his
readability
of
the
public
delegations
to
have
input
and
yeah.
So
there's
actually
three
of
these
things
and
then
the
other
one
is
inclusionary.
Zoning
refresh
of
a
ten-year
housing
and
homelessness
plan
now
being
finalized
will
set
affordable
housing
targets
based
on
household
income
and
demographics,
and
this
was
an
IP
D
that
we
received
from
miss
gray
and
determined
which
tools
council
can
use
to
leverage
new,
affordable
housing.
A
One
such
tool
is
certainly
inclusionary
zoning,
so
there's
more
to
come
on
on
on
this
and
because
their
suds
is
on
the
line
and
and
and
councillor
McKinney
you're
still
there
either.
One
of
you
want
to
we're
not
going
to
discuss
it.
There's
been
a
people.
Two-Thirds
anyway
received
receive
on
all
three
of
them
received.
C
A
A
So
this
is
a
really
neat
project
that
was
I,
think
it
was
champion
for
sure
by
our
good
friend,
Sheila
Perry,
the
president
of
FCA
and
Roland
Dempsey.
They
met
with
us
quite
a
few
times
and
Sheila
you
know,
being
a
former
principal
and
and
just
overall
enthusiastic
person
worked
with
the
toeffler
angle.
We
are
going
to
have
Sheila
on
and
shall
introduce
Benjamin
Antonov
Sheila.
Are
you
there.
E
A
It
only
started
to
do
that
when
Sheila's
mic
became
live
I.
Think
oh.
K
Yeah
I
can
I,
can
talk
and
do
a
little
bit
of
an
introduction
just
and
speak
on
behalf
of
the
Telford
team.
Absolutely
so
yeah
I'm
been
on
puffs,
just
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself,
the
FCA
and
the
Telfer
School
of
Management
at
uOttawa
I'm.
Together
we
worked
with
Sheila
the
FCA
I'm
Jen
harder,
and
we
commissioned
a
survey
to
test
the
existing
resources
capabilities
amenities
existing
in
bar.
K
Even
so,
we
could
help
inform
a
template
that
can
be
used
in
bar
Haven
to
create
15-minute
neighborhoods,
but
also
can
be
used
beyond
bar
Haven
and
scaled
into
other
neighborhoods
to
develop
15-minute
neighborhoods
there,
and
we
have
a
quick
little
video
clip
set
up
here
by
Mark
Volman.
That
shows
a
little
bit
of
the
work
we've
done.
Some
of
the
survey
results
and
then
sets
us
up
for
the
template
that
will
we're
still
working
on
and
it
is
forthcoming.
As
of
April
26th,.
E
E
The
whole
idea
of
the
Telfer
students.
These
are
fourth-year
MBA
students
working
on
their
projects
of
sustainability
and
leadership,
and
this
gets
a
very
good
offer.
Juniel
I've
opportunity
for
them
to
get
their
feet
wet
so
to
speak.
So
the
exciting
part
in
this
is
that
when
we
pitch
this
back
in
the
early
part
of
winter
term
and
talking
with
councilor
harder,
the
selection
was
bar
Haven
and,
as
you'll
see
in
the
video
you're
going
to
see
a
lot
more
detail.
E
Well
we're
trying
to
work
with
the
city
on
this.
We
see
this
is
extremely
important
and
that
personally,
the
person,
the
time
that
we're
seeing
right
now
for
people
and
what
folks
are
going
through
in
their
own
neighborhoods
really
brings
resolve
about
how
to
go
things
forward
with
planning,
and
it
is
extremely
important
to
have
these
areas
to
well
plan
when
we
look
at
resources
that
are
needed.
What
makes
a
neighborhood
friendly
and
all
the
ingredients
that
draw
people.
So
how
do
we
go
forward
with
this?
E
Well,
the
template
is
what
we're
after
we're
looking
at
increasingly
partners-
and
this
is
a
very
much
a
beginning-
the
part
I
love
about.
It
is,
of
course,
seeing
the
students
working
with
us
and
we're
really
really
pleased
to
be
able
to
share
this
and
look
for
your
comments
and
questions
thanks
very
much
councillor.
A
A
K
Everyone,
my
name,
is
Ben
on
hoth
and
today
I'm
here
to
share
with
you
the
results
of
the
recently
commissioned
bar
Haven
life
survey
to
begin
I
will
give
a
brief
outline
of
some
of
the
five
W's,
all
of
which
I
will
go
into
greater
detail
as
a
continuum
in
terms
of
the
where
the
survey
was
commissioned
in
bar
Haven
Ontario,
which
is
the
fastest-growing
ward
in
the
fastest-growing
city
in
Eastern
Ontario.
We
chose
bar
Haven.
K
For
this
reason,
in
addition
to
the
fact
that
several
of
my
group
members
have
personal
connections
within
the
area,
the
survey
was
open
from
February
28
to
march
13th,
with
the
hopes
of
helping
create
a
general
template
for
fifteen-minute
neighborhoods,
as
well
as
inform
us
on
how
best
to
implement
this
template
within
bar
Haven.
The
survey
was
composed
of
16
questions
and
received
1273
responses.
It
was
targeted
predominantly
towards
decision
making
individuals
within
bar
Haven
a
great
deal
of
success.
K
From
a
survey
response
perspective,
81%
of
respondents
identified
themselves
to
be
between
the
ages
of
25
and
64.
In
light
of
this,
we
can
be
quite
confident
that
this
survey
accurately
captures
the
daily
lifestyles
and
habits
exhibited
by
the
adult
population
within
Bar.
Haven
purpose
of
this
survey
was
to
ultimately
get
a
better
understanding
of
the
existing
community
feeling
bar
Haven.
To
do
so,
we
asked
16
questions
that
touched
on
a
range
of
topics
from
existing
and
lacking
in
Menna
T's,
any
desired
governance
factors
such
as
affordability,
environmental
sustainability,
cultural
diversity.
K
At
the
time
of
the
survey,
it
was
determined
that
there
is
not
an
overwhelmingly
strong
sense
of
community
within
bar
Haven
as
validated
within
our
survey.
One
potential
way
to
foster
community
within
neighborhoods
is
through
the
establishment
of
a
downtown
Civic
block.
Having
this
sort
of
Main
Street
feel
with
many
amenities
and
services
in
one
general
area
lends
itself
to
the
importance
of
not
only
what
is
being
produced
and
built
in
terms
of
businesses,
but
also
where
these
things
are
being
produced.
K
This
realization
is
a
focal
point
in
my
team's
recommendation
of
bringing
places
to
people
rather
than
people,
to
places
within
my
team's
recommendation
to
bring
people
to
places.
We
detail
a
variety
of
services
and
amenities
that
can
help
elicit
these
feelings
of
community.
Additionally,
the
template
also
outlines
desirable
governance
factors
such
as
affordability,
sustainability
and
cultural
diversity
that
are
all
important
to
integrate
within
fifteen-minute
neighborhoods.
K
Ultimately,
because
each
15-minute,
neighborhood
and
geographic
area
will
have
different
resources
and
existing
services,
template
can
be
used
to
form
a
sort
of
needs,
analysis
between
what
is
existing
and
what
is
lacking.
Ultimately,
the
results
from
the
survey
are
going
to
be
used
to
create
a
scalable
template
for
15-minute
neighborhoods
that
can
be
used
in
Bar,
Haven
and
Beyond.
K
It
will
be
based
off
of
a
variety
of
empirical
data
from
our
bar
Haven
Life
Survey,
but
it
is
also
important
to
be
tailored
to
each
existing
neighborhood
and
since
every
neighborhood
is
different,
it
is
important
that
this
template
remains
dynamic,
remain
dynamic,
so
that
it
can
keep
up
with
changing
lifestyles,
preferences
and
still
be
applied
into
the
future
of
15-minute.
Neighborhoods
I
would
now
like
to
take
a
moment
just
to
reaffirm
that
this
template
in
this
report
will
be
forthcoming
as
of
April
26th,
and
it
can
be
made
available
upon
request.
K
A
K
A
B
A
B
Cara
I
do
it's
councillor
du
dust,
yes,
Kosar
to
do
this
I
just
wanted
to
thank
Sheila
and
Ben
for
doing
this.
As
someone
who
lives
in
a
fifteen-minute,
neighborhood
herself
and
Blackburn
Hamlet
I
recognize
how
important
is
to
be
able
to
walk
and
and
get
to
areas
that
that
we
all
need
to
be
able
to
access.
I
noticed
in
the
presentation
that
it
mentioned
that,
in
addition
to
bar
Haven,
there
is
the
potential
for
future
neighbourhoods
to
be
looked
at.
In
addition
to
the
like.
K
So
we've
been
hoping,
we've
been
doing
a
little
bit
of
benchmarking
on
the
survey
within
bar
Haven,
see,
you
know,
gets
a
specific
idea
of
you
know
what
residents
in
bar
Haven
need.
So
what
we're
hoping
to
establish
is
a
general
framework
and
just
general
idea
of
you
know
what
sort
of
amenities
are
needed.
You
know
to
bring
about.
K
You
know
desired
government's
factors
of
you
know:
cultural
diversity,
affordability,
things
like
that,
so
essentially
we're
just
hoping
to
make
a
template
that,
with
you
know
an
essentially
a
needs
analysis
that
can
be
conducted
via
survey
like
one
that
was
commissioned.
You
can
just
essentially
benchmark
existing
neighborhoods
and
compare
them
to
you
know
what
is
needed
to
get
two
15-minute
neighborhoods
and.
B
K
Yes,
we
had
a
8%
of
people,
were
they
like
they
identified
themselves
to
be
under
that
age
limit.
So
there
wasn't
an
overwhelming
number
and
about
10%
to
be
over
65.
So
we
didn't.
We
didn't
intend
to
target
anyone
younger
than
18,
but
it
sort
of
happened
to
us
a
little
bit
of
a
an
auxilary
effect,
but
yeah
I
would
say
only
about
75
individuals
under
the
age
of
18
were
interviewed.
So
that's.
B
E
So,
first
of
all,
I,
it's
been
really
super
working
with
the
students
and
we're
really
proud
of
the
work
and
quality
that
they've
done
and
as
a
first
starter,
you
know
you're
learning
on
this
and
the
specifics
of
each
area
are
really
important.
So
when
we
look
at
various
parts
of
the
city,
this
is
a
big
project
that
we
certainly
can't
handle
on
our
own.
But
we
do
see
going
to
various
neighborhoods
working
closely
with
counselors
and
you
can
see
where
we
had
a
champion
here.
E
How
a
councillor
and
chair
harder
and
the
BIA
is
a
very
important
ingredient
on
this.
So
for
future,
it's
putting
things
together
in
our
vision.
We
were
looking
at
possibly
three
a
year,
but
once
the
templates
up,
we
can
use
that
for
a
very
good
way
of
going
forward.
And
the
other
thing
I
would
really
like
to
emphasize
is
the
fact
that
the
survey
is
very
specific,
as
you
can
see
to
the
area
bar
Haven.
That
resulted,
as
I
said
earlier,
about
the
partners
being
in
the
meeting
in
advance.
E
B
K
Certainly
will
and
if
anybody
would
like
access
to
the
report,
you
know
the
template
that
I've
mentioned
will
be
forthcoming.
We
expect
to
have
it
finished
by
April,
26th
and
yeah,
as
I
said
just
reach
out
to
Sheila
myself,
anybody
and
we'll
get
in
contact,
and
we
can
get
that
report
to
you
and
Ben.
K
A
K
A
K
A
E
K
A
Great
and
on
this,
in
this
unprecedented
times
and
meeting
you're,
the
first
presenters
that
we've
had
so
it's
been
great
for
us
to
know
how
to
go
forward,
because
maybe
eleventh
is
going
to
be
really
interesting
when
we
have
the
joint
chat,
Agriculture,
Rural,
Affairs
Committee
meeting
and
the
planning
committee
on
the
official
anyway
take
care.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
A
B
B
C
I'll
just
read
the
Fiat
results
so
therefore
be
it
resolved.
That
planning
committee
received
this
presentation
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
the
committee
coordinator
be
directed
to
post
a
link
to
the
YouTube
presentation
as
access
on
April
9th
to
the
city's
website.
Within
minutes
of
this
meeting
assuring
the
presentation
contents
meet
accessibility
requirements
if
practicable.
A
You
know
what
I'm
going
to
change
the
the
procedure
that
I
stated
at
the
beginning,
if
that's
okay
with
everybody
and
let's
go
to
the
lister
item
because
for
the
benefit
of
counsel
mccandies,
anyone
not
support
that.
So
is
everyone.
Okay,
with
that,
if
I
hear
nothing,
I
will
presume
that
that's
fine
to
go
and
287
wizard
and
remind
you
that
this
is
for
the
opportunity
for
this
location
to
operate
a
parking
garage
as
a
permitted
use.
Go
ahead.
Counselor
McKenney.
G
Thank
You
chair
and
thanks
to
the
the
members
are
first
Xun
council
committee,
meaning
I
have
to
be
part
of
it.
So
no
surprise
that
I
don't
support
additional
parking
at
dislocate.
Again,
it's
downtown,
there's
plenty
of
surface
parking,
downtown,
there's
plenty
of
off
street
parking
and
and
to
add
28
spots.
Well,
that
may
seem,
like
a
small
amount
to
quibble
over
I,
want
to
remind
committee
members
that
the
same
applicant
was
granted
a
zoning
bylaw
amendments
just
a
block
over
at
check
luster
and
he
and
before
again
50
green
space
garage.
G
So
you
know
this,
is
you
know,
death
by
a
thousand
cuts
really
death
by
a
thousand
parking
spots?
Deck
you
know
could
be
to
our
transit
system,
but
certainly
not
in
line
with
what
we
are
encouraging
in
terms
of
intensification
and
our
transportation
master
plan,
and
you
know,
I
really
do
hope
that
when
we
revisit
our
for
supply
event,
this
is
something
we
take
into
account,
and
it
is
the
last
comment
I'll
make.
G
Is
that
the
ongoing
frustration
here
is
that
when
we
approved
a
site
plan
earlier
on,
you
know
it
was
for
a
certain
amount
of
residential
certain
residential
parking
I
understand
that
the
the
use
has
changed
from
condo
to
rental,
but
that
should
not
automatically
grant
that
additional
that
additional
parking
for
visitors.
Therefore,
a
public
parking,
rather
visitor
Park
means
one
thing:
residential
parking
is
another
thing,
I
understand
fully
I,
say
I.
G
Actually,
I've
had
conversations
with
certain
members
of
the
public
who
have
planning
backgrounds
and
I've
I've,
come
to
the
realization
actually
on
that
for
some
ongoing
residential
parking,
so
that
we
are
able
to,
you
know,
bring
more
people
into
the
downtown
living
in
the
downtown,
but
also
providing
that
needed
residential
parking.
But
public
parking
really
is
it's.
G
G
What
that
means,
and
what
that
means
in
terms
of
all
choosing,
maybe
not
to
come
in
by
transit,
to
community
park,
because
it's
easier
and
and
also
you
know
what
does
28
plus
253
and
do
they
look
at
the
entire
amount
of
public
parking
in
an
area
before
granting
after
site
plan
control.
This
further
bylaw
zoning.
B
B
Each
project
is
unique
in
in
this
case.
For
example,
we
only
have
an
aggregate
of
28
spaces
that
may
be
used
for
public
parking,
there's,
no
intent
that
a
parking
garage
become
the
principal
use
and
there's
nothing
prejudicing
this
building
from
providing
parking,
as
you
mentioned,
for
the
residential
needs
at
the
building.
If
that's
what
the
market
is
demanding,
thank
you.
G
Well
again,
I
go
back
to
the
fact
that
you
know
we
don't
look
at
an
aggregate.
We
don't
consider
that
a
block
over
the
same
applicant
under
the
same
circumstances
was
just
you
know,
just
given
permission
to
rezone
for
parking
garage,
a
public
parking
garage.
So
it
is,
it
is
really
very
problematic.
You
know
if
we
get
100
here,
20
there
253
there
within
a
short,
you
know
a
narrow
radius.
It's
a
problem
and
and
I
would
encourage
the
community
members
not
to
support
this
application.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
I
understand,
there's,
probably
no
planning
rationale
why
we
would
vote
against
this,
but
to
counselor
McKinney's
questions.
My
questions
to
staff
are:
when
you
look
at
proximity
to
LRT
and
and
our
desire
to
push
public
transit
in
other
modes,
I
mean
she
makes
a
strong
case.
There's
parking
elsewhere,
there's
parking
nearby
the
same
applicant.
How
does
staff
jive
there
recommendation
with
the
fact
that
we're
trying
to
push
public
transit
in
the
core
I
think
public
would
like
to
hear
an
answer
to
that
question.
A
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
committee.
You
just
want
to
state
with
respect
to
the
fall
season.
Official
plan
in
councilor
parkington's
points
with
the
location
of
the
property
being
in
close
proximity
to
transit
downtown.
If
you
look
at
the
policies,
I
guess
well
the
official
plan.
It
looks
at,
of
course,
emphasizing
or
encouraging
people
to
take
transit,
but
the
policies
also
talked
about
meeting
the
needs
of
the
entire
citizenry,
and
it
also
relates
to
having
parking
or
realizing
that
people
will
take
cars
and
that
everyone
will
take
transit.
I
So
it's
having
the
parking
that's
available
for
those
who
choose
to
do
so
sort
of
a
sort
of
a
mix
to
meet
of
everybody
in
the
center
town
area
as
well.
It
does
discourage
surface
parking
lots.
This
property
actually
was
a
surface
parking
lot
beforehand
before
a
building
was
put
up
there
and
it
does
encourage
in
the
San
Antonio
area,
if
you're
going
to
have
parking
to
have
it
underground.
This
parking
is
there
and,
as
mr.
Diaco
said,
there's
it
doesn't
mean
that
people
will
use
it.
I
C
Guess
a
comment
and
yeah
a
comment
in
general
I
think
it's
worth
remembering
this
parking
garage
is
already
built,
and
actually
maybe
maybe
staff
could
answer.
If
we
don't
approve
this
today,
would
we
just
end
up
with
parking
spaces
in
this
garage
that
can't
be
used
or
or
like
I,
think
what's
happening?
Is
they
could
still
be
used,
but
only
by
residents
themselves?
Is
that
right.
C
You
know
how
we
can
make
decisions
as
a
city.
You
know,
if
there's
less
residents,
who
need
a
parking
garage
and
their
immediate
building,
what
happens
to
those
parking
spots
then,
what's
the
best
use
for
them
going
forward?
Did
they
become
public
spaces
or
can
they
be
reused?
So
it's
something
that's
going
to
come
up
a
lot
again
and
I
hope
the
staff
are
considering
that
maybe
through
the
official
plan
or
other
policies
as
we
go
forward.
H
B
I
B
B
So
I
think
it's
something
that
we
take
into
account
accounts
from
a
kenny's
point.
As
we
look
at
the
future
direction,
given
the
Official
Plan,
there
is
something
to
be
noted
about
this
shift
that
is
actually
happening
and
the
flexibility
that
we
need
to
have
when
we
make
regulations
with
respect
to
parking
requirements,
for
instance
in
the
zoning
bylaw
in
the
meantime,
I
think
it's
noteworthy
that
28
parking
spaces
that
will
be
available
for
commuters
is
a
reduction
from
the
total
that
existed
on
that
lot
previously.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
And
this
is,
and
so
I'll
just
introduce
that
that
the
r4
zone,
new
phase
to
update,
is
just
that.
It's
an
update
and
vice-chair
Gower
has
a
combined
motion
frightens
five
and
six
that
planning
committee
suspend
their
rules
to
receive
the
update,
as
verbal
updates
from
staff
are
only
permitted
and
unforeseen
circumstances
than
to
dispense
with
the
requirement
of
the
procedure
bylaw
for
a
written
report
by
staff
about
the
update
after
the
meeting.
C
Yeah
I
can
read
the
there's
a
bit
of
a
preamble,
but
I'll
read
the
B.
It
therefore
be
it
resolved,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
planning
committees
suspend
the
rules
of
procedure
to
receive
the
affirmation,
verbal
updates
from
staff
and
therefore
be
refer.
The
resolved
that
Planning
Committee
suspend
the
rules
of
procedure
to
dispense
with
the
bylaw
requirement.
That
staff
provide
a
written
report
to
be
posted
to
the
city's
website
with
the
minutes
contents
for
this
meeting.
A
L
You
counselor
just
going
to
shut
off
the
YouTube,
which
lags
a
little
bit.
Okay,
so
I'm
sorry
I
missed
the
the
preamble
here.
Do
we
have
the
presentation
on
screen
excellent
there
we
go
okay,
so
thanks
very
much
madam
chair
and
committee,
so
the
are
for
residential
zone
is
intended
as
the
most
intensive
of
our
low-rise
residential
zones
in
the
city
of
our
way.
L
It's
the
one
where
you're
supposed
to
be
able
to
build,
among
other
things,
what
we
call
low-rise
apartment
buildings
or
sometimes
called
walk-up
apartment
buildings
in
the
sense
that
they
don't
inherently
need
an
elevator.
The
way
a
high-rise
condo
tower
might
need
so
in
practice.
The
r4
zone
is
supposed
to
allow
these
these
types
of
apartment
buildings
in
principle,
supported
by
the
Official
Plan.
In
practice,
the
way
the
rules
are
actually
written
too
often
they
actually
in
most
cases,
actually
prevent
you
from
building
this.
L
L
There
are
a
lot
of
reasons
why
the
current
zoning
doesn't
work,
but
if
I
had
to
summarize
them
it
is
that
they
they
generally
impose
a
a
set
of
kind
of
suburban
or
greenfield,
or
you
know,
chief'll
and
kind
of
assumptions
on
development
that
happens
as
infill
on
tight
sites
on
small
lots
in
the
inner
urban
area.
So
that's
generally
the
problem
with
them.
It's
been
a
major
contributor
to
our
rental
housing
shortage
that
is
ongoing.
L
So
council
recently
declared
a
housing
emergency
and
and
clearly
with
good
reason
in
a
healthy
rental
market.
You
have
a
vacancy
rate
of
about
3%
3%
tenants
can
find
places
to
live,
landlords
can
find
tenants
and
everyone
is
more
or
less
happy.
It
has
been
a
long
time
since
Ottawa
has
had
a
rental
vacancy
rate
of
3%
and
most
of
the
inner
urban
neighborhoods.
It
has
been
below
that
for
a
decade,
if
not
longer,
next
slide,
please
so
between
just
some
numbers
to
this
between
2001
and
2016.
L
Over
the
same
time,
we
built
about
6300
new
purpose-built
rental
units
that
shortfall
of
3,000
rental
units
is
equivalent
to
about
two
and
a
half
percent
of
the
entire
rental
stock
of
the
City
of
Ottawa,
recall
I,
said
a
moment
ago
that
a
healthy
vacancy
rate
is
about
3
percent,
so
you
can
imagine
what
two
and
a
half
short
fall
is
doing
to
our
rental
market
and
the
pressure
that
it
puts
on
rents
and
on
vacancy
rates
on
to
the
ongoing
consequences
for
rental
households.
Next
slide,
please.
L
So
we
need
more
apartments
and
we
need
quite
a
lot
more
apartments.
Apartments
are
actually
quite
good
for
smaller
households
and
not
only
for
smaller
household,
but
certainly
for
one
and
two-person
households.
They
are.
They
are
very
well
suited
over
half
of
Ottawa's
households
are
actually
single
people
or
couples
without
children,
so
there
basically
kind
of
one-bedroom
households
somewhat
more
would
need
2
bedrooms.
L
It's
actually
only
about
a
quarter
of
households
in
Ottawa
that
that
need
the
larger
units,
but
the
vast
majority
of
Ottawa's
housing
stock
is
in
fact
in
the
form
of
larger
units
in
the
form
of
single
and
detached
and
townhouse
units
that
are
actually
more
housing
than
what
a
small
household
necessarily
needs
and
increasingly
more
than
they
can
afford,
because
the
cost
of
all
housing
has
gotten
more
and
more
expensive.
So
there
really
is
a
lack
of
apartments
that
is
contributing
to
this
to
this
problem.
So
next
slide,
please.
L
So
the
pros
be
proposed
changes
to
the
our
four
zones.
We
will
be
applying
these
through
this
project
to
the
inner
urban,
our
four
zones
that
is
essentially
wards
12
through
17.
It's
not
all
avoid
16,
the
the
southern
half
is
excluded,
but
basically
Ward's
12
to
17
the
changes
of
life
only
to
the
existing
are
four
zones
that
exist
within
that
area.
If
you
look
at
the
map
on
the
screen
here,
that
is
those
areas
in
black.
If
land
is
not
in
one
of
these
black
areas,
these
amendments
do
not
affect
next
five.
Please.
L
Here
we
go
so
in
sum,
the
summary
of
what
we're
proposing
to
do
with
the
our
four
zones
is
very
generally
two
again
within
the
are
for
existing.
Are
four
zones
in
the
in
urban
to
generally
allow
eight
or
twelve
units
on
Lots
where
currently
you
are
because
of
the
minimum
lot
size
or
because
of
the
details
of
the
zone?
You
are
restricted
to
three
or
four
units
so
about
8
to
12
instead
of
three
or
four.
This
slide
here
is
a
little
bit
misleading
allowed
12
units
on
15
meter
plus
wide
Lots.
L
I
should
note
that
in
some
of
the
our
four
zones,
when
you've
got
a
lot
that
size
to
begin
with
a
15
meter
or
about
50
foot
Lots,
you
are
already
allowed
to
do
a
low-rise
apartment
with
no
explicit
limit
on
the
number
of
units.
So
this
is
all
about
adding
the
possibility
of
doing
these
apartments
in
places
within
the
ARP
or
zone
you're
not
currently
allowed
to,
because
of
block
size
and
unit
counts.
L
We
would
build
in
green
space
requirements
that
are
tailored
to
apartments
into
an
urban
context,
making
sure
that
there
is
quality,
green
space
that
serves
a
purpose
room
for
trees,
things
of
that
nature,
rather
than
space
for
the
sake
of
space,
which
is
kind
of
a
principle
behind
the
existing
going
back
decades.
But
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
leave
space
for
garbage
management.
That
is
paramount.
L
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
garbage
produced
by
Department
building
can
be
dealt
with
responsibly,
bringing
it
back
and
forth
between
storage
areas
to
the
to
the
front
and
storing
it.
In
the
meantime,
we
want
to
ensure
that,
because
on
a
small
law,
fitting
parking
is
is
a
real
challenge,
and
certainly
it
creates
a
problem
on
a
small
lot
with
the
various
demands
an
apartment
building
has
under
the
Building
Code
and
in
terms
of
things
like
accessibility.
L
So
we
will
not
permit
parking
to
displace
things
like
green
space
and
in
fact
the
rules
would
prohibit
parking
on
for
apartment
buildings
on
Lots
under
15
meters
wide.
This,
of
course,
is
the
part
of
town
where
we
don't
currently
require
parking
in
the
first
place.
This
is
the
next
logical
step
with
our
special
apartments.
We're
gonna
build
in
some
basics,
design,
standards,
things
like
balconies
facade,
articulation
things
so
that
even
a
building
that
is
minimally
zoning
compliant
before
it's
even
gone
through
site
plan
control.
L
It
has
incorporated
some
elements
that
make
it
friendlier
to
the
street,
something
that
is
not,
and
we've
seen
some
examples
around
town
that
have
gotten
people's
backs
up
buildings,
not
buildings
that
are
sort
of
anonymous
and
and
and
otherwise
don't
interact.
Well
with
the
street,
we
are
not
repeat,
not
proposing
changes,
the
permitted
Heights
and
there
were
minimal
changes
proposed
to
require
yards.
This
is
just
essentially
how
the
yard
requirements
are
written.
They
are
not
Material
changes,
so
essentially
the
permitted
massing
is
currently
in
the
r4
zone.
L
We
continue
to
allow
them
it's
just
about
what
you're
allowed
to
do
in
terms
of
cutting
up
the
inside
of
that
building
next
slide,
please.
So
the
standards
that
we've
come
up
with
have
were
tested
through
an
extensive
process.
We
hired
several
consultants,
architects,
development,
finance
people
here
is
an
example
of
one
of
the
sort
of
proof-of-concept
buildings
that
that
they
came
up
with.
We
said
figure
out
how
you
would
do
it
and
eight
unit
building
on
a
twelve
meter
lot.
L
This
is
one
of
the
ways
you
can
do
it
and,
as
you
can
see,
there
is
safe
to
store
bicycles.
There
is
space
to
store
garbage
responsibly
to
move
it
front
back.
There
is
room
for
trees.
There
was
an
interaction
with
the
street.
There
were
several
ways
to
skin
the
proverbial
cat
in
all
this,
so
we
did
this
exercise
of
making
sure
that,
yes,
in
fact,
you
could
do
it
work
ibly
several
different
ways.
Next
slide,
please.
L
L
Next
slide,
please,
and
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
would
be
building
in
some
standards
into
the
zoning
on
the
left.
You
see
a
box
that
is
actually
fairly
familiar
in
some
places
around
town.
This
is
what
you're
currently
allowed
to
do
in
terms
of
building
massing
and
facade
before
you
go
to
site
to
plan
control,
there's
a
lot
of
sort
of
issues
with
it
and
as
you're
drawing
the
ire
of
the
neighbors.
L
L
It
has
to
have
an
entrance
on
the
front
of
the
building
facing
the
street,
which
you're
currently
not
actually
always
required
to
do
by
zoning
things
like
fenestration
ratios
and
allowing
things
like
bay
windows
to
provide
some
articulation
and
things
to
prevent
the
front
yard
from
being
turned
unlawfully
into
parking
once
our
backs
are
turned
so
building
those
standards
into
the
zoning.
So
we
don't
have
to
rely
on
sight
line
control
for
for
as
much
of
the
compatibility
as
we
might
currently
next
slide.
Please.
L
So
the
proposed
zoning
requirements
are
on
circulation.
Now
the
project
website
I'm.
Sorry,
it's
not
on
the
screen.
Ottawa
CA
slash
are
for
zoning
all
one
word:
we
are
soliciting
comments
on
the
circulation
by
May
8th.
We
are
expecting
to
bring
the
report
to
client
committee
in
June
manager.
I
want
to
emphasize
just
in
closing
the
zoning
alone
can't
make
housing
affordable,
okay,
but
it
can
definitely
make
housing
a
lot
more
expensive
than
it
needs
to
be
and,
in
its
current
form,
the
way
it
is
currently
written.
L
That
is
what
the
r4
zoning
does
by
preventing
the
creation
of
the
housing
supply
that
it
is
intended
to
actually
allow
one
out
of
every
three
households
in
Ottawa
rinse,
their
dwelling.
That's
about
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
individuals
couples,
families
who,
to
a
greater
or
lesser
extent,
best-case
scenario.
They
live
with
a
certain
amount
of
anxiety
of
what
will
happen
to
them
if
they
ever
have
to
move
and
that's
to
say
nothing
of
the
hundreds
of
young
people,
downsizing
seniors
newcomers
to
the
city
every
year.
L
We
don't
even
get
to
that
point
because
they
can't
even
find
a
place
to
that.
This
amendment
is
going
to
be
just
one
piece
of
the
puzzle,
but
when
we
bring
it
is
going
to
represent
our
best
professional
advice
on
how
to
amend
the
are
for
zoning
that
stops
being
part
of
the
problem
and
starts
to
contribute
to
a
solution
to
the
ongoing
housing
emergency
that
we're
facing
thanks
very
much.
A
I
I
just
want
to
clarify
mr.
Norman's
final
slide
that
we
have
tentatively
targeted
June
to
bring
this
to
matter
forward
because
of
the
public
interest.
That
date
will
be
reviewed
closer
to
the
top
I
mean
it
may
be
the
fall
before
we
can
bring
your
work
forward
if
there's
a
high
degree
of
public
interest,
and
we
want
to
entertain
public
allegations
so
I
just
want
to
put
it
in
the
context
of
the
unknown
of
our
current.
A
C
A
L
So,
first
of
all,
in
the
area
that
we
are
talking
about,
that
the
the
inner
urban
area
that
we
showed
you
on
the
map
that
before
there
is
already
not
a
parking
requirement
for
for
up
to
12
units,
so
that's
actually
existing
existing
zoning.
Well,
we
were
talking
about
it's
actually
a
prohibition
on
Park
and
all
the
smaller
Lots.
So
the
question
of
where
people
will
park
the
best
day
that
we
have
actually
indicates
the
part
meant
drillers
are
much
less
likely
to
have
vehicles
affected.
L
The
the
best
interpretation
I
can
give
of
the
data
of
apartment
dwellers
owning
vehicles
is
that
they
own
exactly
as
many
vehicles
as
we
have
required
and
building
to
provide
parking,
so
we're
seeing
already
a
lot
of
people
who
want
to
move
specifically
into
downtown
and
around
downtown
specifically
so
that
they
don't
have
a
vehicle.
One
of
the
things
about
the
zoning.
Actually,
that's
prevented
the
supply
of
parking
for
a
long
long
time
was.
It
actually
imposed
unrealistic
parking
parking
requirements
on
buildings.
So,
but
briefly,
the
councillor
who
police,
council
Hubley's
question.
L
B
H
Thanks
chair
I,
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
questions.
I
do
want
to
say
thanks
to
mr.
Willis,
for
actively
engaging
with
some
of
us
who
are
probably
going
to
be
the
most
affected
by
the
r4
review.
I'm
gonna
have
more
to
say
on
the
art
for
review
when
we
take
a
look
at
the
Grand
Street
application,
but
I
did
want
to
say
from
my
perspective,
Hintonburg
and
Mechanicsville,
or
what
we
call
junior
are
fours
for
the
most
part,
the
number
of
units,
and
each
in
this
area
is
limited
to
four.
H
The
direction
of
the
r4
zoning
review
would
bring
us
to
allow
eight
so
we're
looking
at
a
doubling
of
the
allowed
density
in
much
of
Hintonburg
in
Mechanicsville,
which
is
a
big
giant
chunk
of
the
near
West
End
of
Ottawa.
Some
of
the
things
that
we
have
been
talking
to
mr.
Willis
and
his
team
about.
H
There
is
a
strong
concern
that
if
we
allow
double
the
density
in
Hintonburg
in
Mechanicsville,
which
has
become
obviously
with
a
couple
of
LRT
stations-
wonderful,
Main,
Street,
all
the
infrastructure
that
makes
us
such
a
great
place
to
live
that
we're
actually
going
to
see
an
acceleration
in
the
gentrification.
That
is
happening
right
now.
In
Ward,
it
becomes
more
economical
to
take
down
some
of
the
old
converted
houses,
some
of
the
older
triplexes,
etc
and
and
build
eight
units.
H
Each
one
of
those
eight
units
is
going
to
be
relatively
expensive
in
this
area
and
we're
concerned
about
the
loss
of
affordable
housing
and
something
I
expect
that
we'll
hear
from
councillor
McKenzie
as
well
and
maybe
I'll.
Let
her
address
that
a
greater
length
plant
bath
Dovercourt,
our
recreational
facilities
are
really
at
capacity.
Doubling
the.
H
Will
form,
but
it's
intimately
tied
to
how
we're
going
to
ensure
that
our
city's
core
is,
is
a
livable
space,
so
I
will
just
leave
it
there.
These
are
issues
with
which
mr.
Wilson
is
team.
You
are
actively
engaged.
There
is
significant
understanding
on
the
part
of
a
large
chunk
of
Hintonburg
in
Mechanicsville,
that
greater
density
is
how
we're
going
to
achieve
our
environmental
sustainability
goals
and
our
affordable
housing
goals.
A
F
So
I'm
sure
yes,
I
I
too,
wanted
to
extend
my
appreciation
to
to
the
team
and
specifically
mr.
Willis,
to
to
meet
with
us
and
discuss
the
particular
concerns
that
we
have
for
our
communities
want
to
raise
the
following
and
and
Jeff
initiated
and
really
spoke
the
specifics.
But
you
have
to
consider
that
the
the
r4
zoning
has
currently
already
driven
a
lot
of
new
density
in
core
neighborhoods
and
when
you
look
at
the
recreation
facilities,
the
newest
one
we
have
in
the
Greenbelt
is
plot
and
plot
was
then
as
a
last
measure
before
amalgamation.
F
You
know
in
a
in
a
environment,
four
units
you're
allowed
a
maximum
of
four
bedrooms
that
in
that
envelope
of
that
building
allows
for
sixteen
bedrooms
in
in
in
the
nature
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
were
because
we're
capped
at
four
bedrooms
in
a
unit.
If
we
don't
put
a
cap
on
the
number
of
units,
then
we
find
ourselves
with
bachelors
and
one
bedrooms
which
do
not
accommodate
couples.
Do
not
accommodate
young
families.
Do
not
accommodate
a
variety
of
affordable
demographics
that
we
want
to
ensure
are
protected.
So
I
guess.
F
My
question
to
Tim
relates
to
I
want
to
understand
the
philosophy
you
talked
about.
You
know
this
effort
not
being
a
a
tool
for
affordability,
but
a
tool
for
ensuring
that
it
is
not
not
affordable
and
I
wanted
to
understand
the
depth
of
that
because
in
the
white
papers
that
I've
seen
so
far,
you
talked
about
measures
to
increase
affordability,
yet
the
per
square
foot
of
rental
and
the
the
per
square
foot
costs
in
a
building.
That's
not
shifted
in
my
mind
and
I
want
to
understand.
L
Adam
Kerr
briefly,
the
the
single
greatest
contributor
to
housing
on
affordability,
and
this
speaks
to
councilor
leap
was
concerned
to
an
extent
as
well.
The
single
greatest
challenge
to
rental
affordability
that
we
have
now
is
the
scarcity
of
units
we
are
seeing
when
a
unit
becomes
vacant.
The
rent
goes
up
by
on
the
order
of
15%,
so
it
is
the
scarcity
of
units
that
is
driving
up
the
rent,
not
just
it's
not
just
new
units.
L
New
housing
is
expensive
to
build
under
the
best
of
circumstances
and
under
the
current
zoning
we
actually
force
housing
to
be
in
inherently
expensive
forms
proposed.
R4
is
to
allow
it
to
be
at
things
that
are
better
scaled
to
the
needs
of
the
users
and
that
reduces
unnecessary
expense.
But
the
core
problem
is:
is
a
shortage
of
units
citywide
and
particularly
throughout
the
throughout
the
inner
urban
area.
L
When
councillor
flurry
was
discussing
the
the
for
for
unit
for
bedroom
buildings,
given
the
land
economics
of
the
inner
city,
those
units
end
up
having
to
rent
so
we're
talking
about
the
large
fourth
bedroom
units
they
end
up
having
to
rent
for
I
would
say
no
less
than
$3,500
a
month
which
is
not
really
affordable
to
anybody.
We
have
to
keep
in
mind,
madam
chair,
that
a
lot
of
the
rules
in
the
zoning
right
now
that
restrict
the
number
of
units
that
restrict
the
density.
They
predate
light
rail.
L
They
predate
the
recognition
province-wide
of
the
need
to
intensify
and
they
predate
the
time
when
the
rise
in
housing
prices
has
led
to
a
development
site
a
lot
costing
half
a
million
dollars
for
a
teardown.
You
can't
add
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
the
general
price
of
land
and
expect
the
zoning
that
worked
when
it
was
a
lot
cheaper
to
have
the
same
effect
and
in
fact
the
bunk
has
problem
that
we
saw
for
several
years
until
we
put
the
kibosh
to
it.
A
couple
of
years
ago
was
actually
a
direct
result
of.
L
How
do
you
make
four
units
work
on
a
piece
of
land
that
cost
you
half
a
million
dollars?
Well,
the
way
you
do
it,
it's
not.
The
city
wanted
you
to
do,
but
the
way
you
do
it
is
you
build
it
so
that
it's
a
bunch
of
rent
paying
roommates,
and
you
make
your
money
that
way.
You
get
your
thirty
five
hundred
four
thousand
dollars
a
month
that
way.
L
So
this
is
really
a
illustrative
of
how
a
cap
on
the
number
of
units
has
the
backfiring
effect
of
actually
preventing
anyone
from
building
a
unit
that
would
be
affordable
to
a
family
or
a
household
and
essentially
forces
the
market
to
provide
only
things
that
are
very
big.
You
can
live
with
either
you
were
either
you
were
extremely
wealthy
to
be
able
to
to
afford
it
or
you
have
to
with
a
bunch
of
roommates,
and
it
doesn't
do
anything
for
the
singles
and
couples
and
even
the
very
small
families
that
make
up.
F
I
guess
the
quit.
You
know
the
fullest
I,
don't
debate
the
philosophic
philosophy.
The
idea
here
is
they
allow
for
rejuvenation
of
some
of
our
properties,
allow
for
more
people
to
build
in
them
to
live
in
them
and
I.
Think
the
challenge
is
the
following:
if,
if
we
don't
have
an
understanding
of
forcing
diversity
of
units,
we
don't
allow
different
demographics
to
live
in
the
core
and
when
I
look
at
the
actual
pricing.
I
agree
with
you
that
we
have
vacancy
to
low
vacancy
rates
across
the
board.
F
But
the
question
is:
how
do
we
trigger
a
massive
amounts
of
new
units
built
and
we
believe
that
by
building
an
amount,
that
is,
you
know
astonishing,
that
in
itself
will
restabilized
the
market
which
again
I
agree
philosophically.
But
what
I
worry
is
that
the
the
cash
cow
is
on
those
bachelor
in
one
bedrooms,
because
you
can
by
not
putting
a
cap
on
the
number
of
units
you
just
do
those
and
until
there's
no
more
demand,
then
you
move
to
the
second
product,
which
will
be
a
two-bedroom.
F
So
to
me
I,
would
you
know
I'm
Pope?
You
don't
have
to
answer
today,
but
I
would
say
that
it's
important
for
the
city
as
part
of
these
efforts
to
not
just
hey,
we
need
more
affordability
and
therefore
we
need
more
capacity.
That
is
a
ok,
I
agree
with
point.
One
I
agree
with
point
two,
but
point
three
is
also
relevant.
How
do
we
force
diversity
of
units
built
through
this
process
so
that
we
don't
just
fix
the
bachelor,
the
ones
that
we
get
into
the
ones
and
the
twos
and
threes
in
this
environment?
F
So
for
me,
that's
where
I
think
that
if
we're
able
to
use
different
tools
to
enable
that
and
favor,
maybe
maybe
we
put
a
cap
on
units.
But
if
you
hit
diversity
threshold,
then
we
remove
some
of
the
cap
layers.
So
then
those
buildings
are
diversified
as
you
go
along
and
you
have
different
demographics.
Different
affordability
ranges
within
those
buildings,
anyways
food
for
thought,
I
know
your
continued
and
I
will
continue
to
have
discussions,
we're
meeting
with
Vani
in
a
couple
of
days
and
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
that.
B
I
I'll,
be
very
brief.
I
just
wanted
to
assure
the
councillor
that
his
point
is
understood
and
is
one
of
the
things
we're
trying
to
look
at
as
we
finalize
the
proposals,
and
we
have
some
ideas
that
we
are
exploring
to
find
out
whether
we
have
a
legal
means
to
look
at
university.
That's
all
a
Sager
thanks,
Thank.
G
G
But
at
the
same
time
you're
you're
telling
us
to
remove
some
of
our
amenities.
So
some
of
our
rinks-
and
we
can
argue
whether
they're
you
know
worth
keeping
or
we
going
to
rebuild
them
at
some
point.
But
the
point
was:
was
that
window
plan
for
rebuilding?
So
we
we
backed
off
on
that,
but
it
does
really
speak
to
the
need
to
tie
this
to
a
few
things.
One
is
active
transportation.
G
If
we're
going
to
ask
people
to
come,
live
downtown,
you
know
they,
as
mr.
Mormon
suggested
and
I
see
it
all
the
time
people
who
rent
are
well.
We
just
passed
them
a
report
recommendation
because
earlier
in
this
meeting,
because
people
who
rent
tend
not
to
meet
as
many
tend
not
to
use
a
vehicle.
However,
we
also
have
to
ensure
that
we're
providing
that
active
transportation
for
them
so
that
you
know
when
we
do
rebuild
streets.
G
When
we
do,
you
know
we
are
providing
cycling
routes
and
we
are
providing
wide
sidewalks
and
everything
that
else
that
is
needed,
so
it
has
to
be
attached
that
it
also
and
to
counsel
Flurry's
point.
We
have
to
ensure
that
there's
a
diversity
of
unit
so
that
families
can
also
live
down
parents,
it's
critically
important
to
have
a
families
also
living
everywhere
in
the
city
and
including
downtown.
So
we
have
to
also
attach
this
to
our
inclusionary
zoning
conversations,
because
what
we
don't
necessarily
need
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
high-end
rentals
in
the
town.
G
You
know
between
2010
2016,
for
every
new,
affordable
unit
we've
built
as
a
city.
We
lost
seven.
So
just
think
about
that
we
built
one,
we
lost
seven
and
that
kind
of
$750
range
so
we're
not
even
able
to
keep
up
with
our
investment.
So
this
also
has
to
be
tied
to
two
inclusionary
zoning,
and
it
also
has
to
be
tied
to
our
discussions
around
the
urban
boundary.
We
want
people
to
live
in
a
way.
You
know
we
have
been
a
new
climate
action
plan.
G
We
want
people
to
live
in
a
way
that
this
is
sustainable.
They,
the
fifteen-minute,
neighborhood
discussion
we
just
had
our
neighbor-
was
very
interesting.
I,
look
forward
to
more
you're
in
more
along
those
lines,
but
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
addressing
sustainability
and
as
we're
you
know
telling
residents
in
one
part
of
the
city
you
have
to
intensify
and
and
rightfully
so
we
you
know
have
to.
We
have
to
have
that
broader
conversation
about
what
that
means
for
the
entire
city
and
I
will
leave
it
at
that.
Thank
You,
mr.
mr.
B
G
To
the
conversations
I
actually
quite
enjoy
these
conversations,
they're
tough
I'd
have
to
have
with
residents.
Sometimes
they
have
to
have
with
each
other,
but
they
do
affect
one
part
of
the
city
that
that
needs.
Affordability,
needs
housing
stock,
but
also
needs
the
amenities
and
what
all
that
means,
along
with
it,
for
people
to
be
able
to
to
live
with
wealth
within
a
15-minute
neighborhood
five
minute.
Even
thank
you.
A
Thanks
very
much
no
melody,
if
you,
if
you
could
send
me
text
me
as
opposed
to
email
me
sure
that
would
be
helpful
because
did
youth
counselor
Martha
wants
to
speak,
but
did
you
tell
me
counselor
brockington
wanted.
A
D
D
L
Madam
chair
councillor,
Brockington
is
question.
This
study
is
just
about
rewriting
and
debugging
the
zoning
for
the
existing
r4,
so
we
are
not
changing
the
boundaries.
That
was
a
conscious
decision
to
be
able
to
focus
that
on
on
getting
the
r4
house
in
order
before
we
talked
about
proposing
extending
our
four
or
some
successful
zone
elsewhere.
L
Following
the
official
plan
following
when
we
go
to
write
the
new
comprehensive
zoning
bylaw
shortly
after
adoption
of
the
Official
Plan,
we
will
be
looking
at
where
geographically,
we
should
be
extending
the
ability
to
do
low-rise
apartments
and
what
have
you
the
boundaries
that
we
have
now
are
essentially
the
boundaries
that
were
established
decades
ago.
So
so
so
that
is
something
that
is
long
overdue
to
be
looked
at,
but
it
won't
be
happening
as
part
of
this
project
we'll
be
having
some
subsequent
to
the
adoption
of
the
official
plans.
Okay,
actually,
no.
D
I
was
aware
of
what
the
scope
was
of
your
project,
but
there's
some
curiosity
out
there
about
how
this
might
evolve
in
the
future,
about
adding
more
r4
just
to
go
back.
Councillor
Hubli
made
a
point
about
parking
and
I
just
want
to
say
and
Tim.
You
know
Carlington
pretty
well
that
some
of
the
discussions
we've
had
in
the
community
about
low-rise
apartments,
even
though
they
appear
to
be
good,
fits
and
there's
been.
Some
lukewarm
support
in
the
community.
D
For
some
of
the
intensification
of
one
of
the
big
issues
that
does
come
up
is
about
the
lack
of
proposed
parking
and
I
do
agree
with
you
that
apartment
dwellers
statistically
use
public
transit,
more
there's
a
lesser
reliance
on
on
parking.
But
there's
this
pretty
strong
reaction
that
if
there's
insufficient
parking
that
our
streets
become
public
parking,
lots
and
people
don't
want
that.
It
causes
conflict
when,
if
we
can
embed
even.
D
Because
we're
talking
about
some
buildings,
where
no
parking
at
all
is
being
factored
into
that
I
just
want
you
to
know
out
there
that
if
we
can
get
the
public
to
accept
intensification,
that's
a
great
step
forward,
but
some
of
the
hiccups
have
been
parking
and
we
don't
want
one-for-one
parking.
We
don't
want
a
large
ratio,
but
sometimes
even
providing
a
minimum
can
help
smooth
over
those
types
of
applications.
So
I
I
think
you're.
D
But
those
are
the
types
of
things
we
need
to
be
aware
of.
This
is
a
community
that
supports
intensification,
similar
to
other
comments
that
my
colleagues
have
made,
and
we
can't
forget
that
with
intensification
puts
pressures
on
existing
infrastructure,
in
this
case
recreation
that
we
have
so
look
I'm,
very
supportive
of
where
we're
going
with
us
our
or
your
review
that
you're
leading
and
will
very
likely
support
the
end
result,
but
I
just
want
to
reinforce
some
of
the
issues
that
we've
been
seeing
thus
far.
So
that
was
the
only
comment
I
wanted
to
make.
A
A
M
M
Just
want
to
touch
on
that
I.
This
conversation
might
be
more
suited
for
the
May
11th
joint
meeting.
Given
that
that's
going
to
be
about
intensification,
the
need
for
the
proliferation
of
the
r4
zone
throughout
the
city
and
just
that
that
discussion
that
started
around
urban
arenas
and
I
think
it
kind
of
got
off
on
the
wrong
note
and
that
there
was
this
thought
that
we
just
closed
the
arena's,
and
that
would
be
it
that
isn't
what
the
discussion
is
to
be
about.
It's
repurposing.
M
The
reality
is
the
standalone,
rinks
and
we're
gonna
face
this
throughout
the
city,
with
standalone
rinks
in
the
next
10
20
30
years
as
they
become
as
they
get
closer
and
the
life
cycle
as
we
need
to
replace
the
ice
plant,
we
did
the
ice
plant
and
the
and
the
slob.
That's
at
the
Richmond
Arena,
not
that
long
ago
and
upwards
of
a
million
dollars
just
for
that
one.
M
M
M
Skate
parks,
we
see,
there's
one
bleak
city
center
building,
so
things
like
that.
So
those
opportunities
you
know
different
types
of
recreation
opportunities
as
opposed
to
just
just
hockey
rinks,
and
then
can
we
look
at
replacing
those.
So
it's
not
just
you
know
deleting
those
from
the
community
and
moving
on,
but
can
we
actually
look
at
where
there
are
three
or
four
standalone
rinks
and
actually
build
a
multiplex
pad
somewhere
else?
M
So
those
are
obviously
those
are
long-term
thinking,
but
that
all
has
to
play
into
further
intensification
and
as
we
certainly
as
we
go
with
our
go
forward
with
our
official
plan
and
what
that's
going
to
mean
all
the
council's
are
aware
of
what
intensification
is
going
to
mean
for
their
communities
and
as
as
everyone
has
indicated,
it's
a
tough
decision.
It's
tough
conversation
to
have
with
your
residents
because
quite
often,
the
our
four
zone,
these
types
of
things
are
not
popular
steps
to
take,
but
they're
necessary
steps
to
take.
M
Because
the
alternative
is,
you
know
more
sprawl.
So
as
we
as
we
go
down
that
path,
it's
important
that
we
make
sure
we
have
these
proper
conversations
that
were
that
were
not
believing
that
we're
just
gonna
leave
people
high
and
dry
with
no
recreation
opportunities.
That's
not
at
all
being
the
intent
of
that
actually
discussing
this
with
Dan
Jenny
in
the
last
24
hours
about
urban
rinks
and
and
and
the
opportunities
there
and
I
expect.
M
A
G
You
very
much
Jan
chair
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
know
this
isn't
directly
affecting
Bay
word
immediately,
but
I've
talked
with
Tim
and
about
the
possibilities
for
the
future,
and
it's
something
very
interesting
in
terms
of
how
we
resolve
the
problem
of
intensification
and
that's
gonna
come
up
along
the
way
with
stage
2
LRT.
So
it's
not
far
off.
It's
gonna
come
soon
and
we
have
to
look
at
it
seriously.
G
I
actually
lived
in
a
zone
for
a
building
with
a
with
a
baby,
so
I
know
what
they're
like
in
terms
of
just
trying
to
get
by
as
a
family
and
I'm,
hoping
that
we're
gonna
have
very
family-friendly
ones,
because
I
think
that's.
The
goal
is
reaching
out
to
families.
Families
are
the
ones
that
are
suffering
the
most
in
terms
of
the
affordable
housing
crisis.
G
We've
got
people
that
you
may
have
two
people
in
the
household
earning
money,
but
then
you've
got
these
little
ones
that
don't
earn
much
and
they're
actually
kind
of
a
burden
and
they're
makes
things
hard
to
afford
and
and
that's
why
we
need
that
affordable
housing,
so
I
support
what
councilor
flurry
was
talking
about
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
the
units
are
not
too
small.
I
lived
in
a
three-bedroom
at
the
time
by
the
way,
but
two
with
one
and
a
half
bathrooms.
G
That's
what
happened
back
in
the
crop
will
be
built
in
the
seventies.
So
so
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
have
to
look
at
and
and
what
councillor
brockington
was
talking
about
with
parking.
Yes,
we're
trying
to
reduce
parking,
but
it's
kind
of
a
reality
check,
sometimes
with
families.
Unfortunately,
and
as
much
as
we
can
reduce
parking,
it
may
be
something
that
puts
people
off
and
they
avoid
going
to
those
units.
A
Thank
You
councillor,
Cavanaugh
and
I
was
just
reminded
me
of
Kingston
Avenue
near
Miravalle,
Road,
that
Aryan
in
Council
Brockington
saw
Ward
and
then
the
units
that
mentor
used
to
own
a
long
baseline
road.
And
if
you
think
about
they,
were
on
a
much
larger
footprint
than
what
we're
using
today.
But
they
served
that
same
kind
of
purpose
and
they
were
large
enough
that
families
could
live
in.
Because.
B
A
Top
of
the
street
there
they
just
had
parking
I
can
remember
one
of
my
sisters
living
there
and
I
guess
would
be
the
70s
yeah
1975
and
having
a
little
kids
pool
out
in
the
backyard.
You
know
everybody
shared
the
same
space
and
that,
but
at
least
there
was
space.
You
know
it
was
important,
so
you
know
in
your
role
as
a
person
who
is
the
liaison,
the
liaison
right
on
on
gender
specific
issues.
This
is
something
you
know.
Based
on
your
comments.
A
H
I
I
did
just
want
to
add
on
to
what
Tim
was
saying
with
respect
to
more
intensification
councillor
Moffat
brought
up
as
well.
One
of
the
particular
sensitivities
we
have
with
the
r4
review
is
that
it's
occurring
in
advance
of
a
bigger
picture
of
how
intensification
is
going
to
look
across
the
city.
If
we're
going
to
achieve
environmental
goals.
H
You
know
they're
looking
at
and
asking
me
why
their
neighborhoods,
which
are
already
very
dense,
are
being
looked
at
for
intensity
when
we're
not
looking
at
the
r2z.
Our
threes
in
the
are
ones
so
as
we
proceed
through
the
earth
for
review.
I
do
think
that,
at
every
step
of
the
way,
staff
need
to
make
it
clear
that
intensification
is
coming
in
every
zone,
because
that's
not
immediately
clear
to
the
residents
of
the
current
are
four
zones.
Thanks
for
thank.
A
I
You
Gerry
I'm,
going
to
just
do
a
quick
wrap-up
on
several
of
the
comments
we
heard
this
is
a
useful
discussion.
The
purpose
of
this
report
today
was
debrief
planning
committee
when
we
have
the
proposals
for
our
floor
on
the
street,
so
you're
aware
of
it.
What
we're
going
to
do
in
the
next
couple
of
months
is
refine
those
proposals
based
on
the
input
and
come
back
to
committee
and
counts
ultimately
for
approval.
I
Counselor
Libra
raised
a
question
about
timing
and
you
may
recall
the
history
that
this
entire
r4
initiative
started
with
our
efforts
on
the
funk
houses
and
and
and
follow
the
inner
control,
while
on
the
like,
and
so
we've
been
on
a
procession
of
different
zoning
improvements
for
this
not
sort
of
a
function
of
the
timeline.
But
once
our
staff
report
on
the
official
and
birth
management
strategy
comes
out
shortly,
you
will
see
how
this
fits
with
the
broader
framework
of
how
intensification
is
contemplated
in
the
rest
of
the
city.
I
On
the
second
point
that
councillor
flurry
and
councillor
Calvin
I
raised
about
in
unit
typology,
we
are
looking
at
what
the
legal
tools
actually
are.
Normally,
the
province
has
limited
our
zoning
tools
to
controlling
the
shape
of
the
box,
rather
than
what
goes
on
in
inside
the
box.
We
have
some
creative
approaches
that
we're
looking
at
that
may
try
to
address
the
diversity
of
unit
topologies
and
we
are
looking
at
the
legality
of
that,
and
that
would
be
part
of
our
final
proposal.
I
But
there's
there's
a
fair
bit
of
work
to
do
to
assess
the
legality
of
some
of
our
ideas.
We
certainly
hear
the
point,
understand
it
and
are
trying
to
find
its
approach,
as
it
relates
to
the
broader
amenities
question
which
is
really.
You
know
with
all
the
respect
not
exclusively
that
they
are
for
study
it
can't
in
itself
solve
that
problem.
I
We're
very
aware
of
that
concern
and
if
you,
if
I
just
referred
committee
members
to
the
IPV
we
presented
today
on
comments,
the
province
on
the
new
community
benefits
framework
legislation
and
what
we've
asked
the
province
to
be
able
to
do,
and
that
is
they
need
to
tweak.
The
proposal
to
allow
us
is
to
have
area
specific
community
benefits
charges
in
parts
of
the
city.
I
Much
like
we
did
with
development
charges
so
that
if
we
have
an
area
that
has
a
deficit
of
major
community
amenities
and
we're
intensifying,
we
can
apply
to
area
specific
community
benefits
charge
to
raise
monies
or
new
development
to
improve
and
augment
amenities
of
the
dairy
to
deal
with
that
growth
and
those
things
actually
are
directly
correlated.
So
it's
what
we
do
in
the
new
community
benefits
of
bylaw.
That
will
help
us
solve
this
problem
that
you
have
raised
and
we're
very
sympathetic
to.
I
But
we
do
need
the
province
to
give
us
the
tools
we
need
in
the
way
they
frame
this,
and
that's
why
the
calm
mints
we've
just
provided
the
problems
are
extremely
important.
So
chair
I
just
wanted
to
conclude
that
we
understand
these
comments,
we're
trying
to
address
them
in
the
various
processes,
and
we
will
continue
to
work
with
the
council
sponsors
and
certainly
take
into
account
further
comments
from
the
public.
A
A
So
I
think
this:
do
we
have
any
separate
motion
on
this
one?
No
right,
nope.
Okay,
so
is
this
report
received
received?
Thank
you
because
we
already
had
that
joint
motion
that
vice-chair
Garrett
put
forward
and
we
voted
on
that.
So
the
next
item
is
item
number
six,
the
provincial
policy
statement
and.
J
J
So
in
terms
of
the
new
PPS,
just
a
reminder
of
the
stated
goals,
they're,
basically
to
encourage
an
increase
in
the
mix
and
supply
of
housing
vary
topical
in
terms
of
our
discussion
on
the
art
for
to
protect
the
environment
and
public
safety,
they're
proposing
to
reduce
barriers
and
cost
for
development
and
provide
some
greater
certainty
where
there
were
some
areas
of
confusion
previously,
they're
also
intended
to
support
our
rural,
northern
and
indigenous
communities
and
an
economic
development
lens
supporting
our
local
economies
and
job
creation
opportunities
next
slide.
Please.
J
The
policies
also
provide
further
encouragement
to
residential
intensification
and,
specifically
again
picking
up
on
previous
discussion,
speaks
to
previously
developed
areas
where
that
intensity,
intensification
needs
to
happen.
There's
even
further
support
for
transit,
supportive
development,
intensification
and
infrastructure
planning
and
again
looking
at
ways
to
accommodate
a
larger
supply
and
range
of
housing
options
and
types.
There's
also
reference
to
a
market-based
approach
to
housing
options
and
there's
some
some
information
that
was
added
to
provide
some
clarity
to
what
that
means
for
us.
Moving
forward
next
slide
in
terms
of
our
employment
areas.
J
There's
a
further
emphasis
on
protection
for
those
larger
industrial
manufacturing
type
uses,
probably
more
prevalent
in
the
GTA,
but
in
ten
dairies
to
prohibit
incompatible,
uses
residential
uses,
sensitive
land
uses
and
also
provide
for
an
appropriate
transition
where
you
have
non
adjacent
employment
plants.
The
policies
also
promote
and
facilitate
economic
investment
in
sites,
there's
encouragement
to
to
be
strategic
in
terms
of
our
investment
opportunities
and
and
looking
at
sites,
for
you
know,
key
key
employment
type
uses
and
reduce
the
barriers
for
that
type
of
investment
on
those
sites.
J
Excuse
me:
the
policies
also
speak
to
a
broader
mix
of
uses,
so
for
those
non
manufacturing
type
employment
areas
it
contemplates
more
of
you
know
a
mixed-use,
a
more
balanced
type
of
land-use
framing
framework,
which
is
also
very
consistent
with
where
we're
heading
through
our
official
plan
review
and
one
further
change
is
that
it
for
employment
areas.
Specifically,
it
says
municipalities
may
plan
beyond
that.
J
J
J
J
The
next
slide
terms
of
supporting
our
economy
and
job
creation.
The
new
PBS
speaks
to
optimizing
investment
in
our
transit
infrastructure,
including
specifically
mentioning
air
rights
and
development
in
proximity
to
our
stations.
As
mentioned
previously,
it
protects
our
industrial
and
manufacturing
uses
from
sensitive
and
incompatible
land
uses
and
again
it
encouraged
encourages
us
to
be.
You
know,
looking
to
opportunities
for
economic
investment,
strategic
sites
for
investment
and
so
on.
A
more
minor
issue
is
there's
a
specific
direction
to
encourage
municipalities
to
look
at
the
local
reuse
of
excess
soil.
J
To
avoid
the
you
know,
transportation
costs
and
impacts
on
our
landfills
and
so
on.
So
that
was
a
specific
direction
that
was
added
next
slide
in
terms
of
our
rural
and
agricultural
lands,
as
it
relates
to
our
natural
heritage
resources,
the
water
policies,
agricultural
and
mineral
aggregate
resources.
There
was
very
little
change.
The
new
PBS
is
substantially
unchanged
from
the
previous
one,
so
not
a
lot
of
change.
In
terms
of
you
know,
protection
of
environment
and
so
on.
J
In
terms
of
changes
that
were
made,
there
was
a
increased
focused
on
recreational
tourism
and
other
economic
development
opportunities
that
should
be
promoted.
It
was
a
definition
added
for
on-farm
diversified
uses
that
again
is
consistent
with
one
of
the
policy
directions
in
her
draft
Official
Plan
process,
and
there
was
a
new
definition
for
Agri,
an
agricultural
system
approach
in
Agri,
Food
Network,
which
offers
flexibility
and
promotes
you
know
a
thriving
agricultural
sector.
J
So
it
again
very
much
in
line
with
some
of
the
initiative
initiatives
that
we're
currently
pursuing
with
our
you
know
the
smart
farm
and
so
on.
So
it's
embedded
in
in
the
PPS,
which,
which
is
helpful
next
slide,
so
just
in
summary,
I,
would
characterize.
The
changes
that
were
made
to
the
PPS
is
positive.
There's
certainly
some
additional
certainty
provided
around
land
development,
but
there
was
also
opportunities
for
some
flexibility
where
appropriate
that
he
did
not
have
previously.
J
We
didn't
get
everything
we
asked
for,
but
there
were
a
significant
number
of
changes
that
responded
to
the
comments
the
city
provided
and
just
just
to
conclude.
The
changes
do
align
very
well
with
the
Official
Plan,
five
big
moves
and
our
preliminary
policy
directions
that
were
approved
in
December.
So
thank
you
for
that
channel
turn
it
back
to
the
chair.
A
H
J
Yeah,
certainly
so,
as
I
mentioned,
the
policy
provides
for
that
opportunity
to
add
additional
land
to
the
urban
area
outside
of
a
comprehensive
review,
but
there's
specific,
very
specific
criteria,
including
a
no
net
increase
in
terms
of
that
land.
So
it
has
to
be
land
out
and
in
it
also
has
to
be
consistent
with
you
know.
The
municipality.
K
J
H
H
B
I
I
B
I
Ask
dawn
to
see
if
there's
anything
else,
I
mean
I.
Think
a
lot
of
our
comments
were
requesting
clarification,
which
we
largely
did
get
there's
some
stuff
that
we
won't
get
clarification
until
they
issue
implementation
guidelines,
so
we're
told
it
may
be
coming
so
dawn,
I,
don't
know
if
I've
missed
anything.
If
you
get
out,
please
yeah,
no.
J
Steve
thanks
that
that's
certainly
the
major
the
major
issue.
There
was
some
very
minor
concerns
about.
You
know
what
the
term
market-based
and
housing
is.
There
was
some
clarity
provided,
but
I
Steve
said
we
expect
more
clarification
as
as
Bolton's
come
out.
There
was
also
one
request
for
a
little
more
flexibility
on
city
uses
and
lands
outside
the
urban
area
that
that
was
not
provided,
but
very
I
would
say
in
the
big
picture,
minor
minor
issues.
Thank.
A
Is
this
item
receive
them?
Yes,
no:
two
cents
I'm
receiving!
Thank
you
all
right
now
we're
going
to
25
grand
Street
and
its
zoning
bylaw
amendment.
A
zoning
amendment
is
sought
to
permit
a
three-story
8
unit
low-rise
apart
building
on
the
north
side
of
grant
Street
and
Hintonburg
on
a
property
occupied
by
a
single
detached
home,
and
we
have
received
correspondence.
A
From
Linda
Howe
hindenburg,
Community
Association,
Linda
Howe,
who
is
the
Hintonburg,
was
not
the
only
one
who
is,
but
you
know
what
I'm
saying
she's
represent
in
our
mind.
She
is
an
associate
sorry
J.
Then
we
also
had
an
email
from
Chris
gelcoat
C
planning
by
people
is
the
applicant
and
from
Brenda
Morel,
the
director
of
ABC
daycare
center
yeah
so
held
by
Councillor
leaper
and
anyone
else
have
any
questions.
Let
me
know
otherwise.
Counselor
leaper
over
to
you
thank.
H
B
H
So
we
just
colleagues,
we
just
received
a
presentation
on
the
our
425
Grant
Street
is
in
this
jr.
r4
that
we're
talking
about
where
the
direction
of
the
r4
review
right
now
would
see.
The
allowed
density
go
from
four
units
to
eight
and
that's
obviously,
a
major
part
of
the
application
that
is
being
made
here
by
the
by
the
developer.
H
I
have
a
really
strong
concern
of
the
the
thrust
of
the
consultation
and
the
information
that
planners
have
been
giving
to
people
in
the
course
of
their
consultation
on
the
are
for
review,
and
we
had
a
very
well
attended
session.
Thank
you
very
much
to
Tim
and
David
and
Robert
for
doing
that
recently,
in
which
they
were
talking
about
allowing
the
doubling
of
density
within
permitted,
currently
permitted
building
envelopes.
H
So
the
the
message
that
residents
have
been
getting
is
that
we're
going
to
increase
the
density,
but
don't
worry
because
we're
not
going
to
increase
the
saw
the
the
size
of
the
buildings
and
and
we've
been
hearing
a
really
strong
message
from
staff
to
say
that
they
want
to
hold
the
line
on
the
envelope
so
that
the
currently
permitted
building
envelope
is
is
not
going
to
become
a
floor
from
which
we
begin
to
negotiate
taller,
Heights,
bigger
footprints.
In
terms
of
setbacks,
it
really
is
staffs
intention
to
hold
the
line
on
the
existing
building
envelope.
H
The
Hintonburg
community
association
has
not
objected
to
the
increase
in
density
on
this
site
from
the
four
to
the
eight
units.
What
they're
opposed
to
is
that,
in
order
to
accommodate
those
eight
units,
the
Builder
is
looking
for
a
staircase
on
the
side
that
is
going
to
project
further
into
the
yard
than
is
currently
allowed
by
the
zoning,
and
the
message
that
we
are
hearing
is
conflicted
with
what
planners
have
been
telling
us
about.
The
new
are
four
rules
if
planners
and
the
city
intend
for
the
new
are
four
doubling.
H
H
That's
what
we're
looking
for
as
we
move
forward
in
the
r4.
There
is
some
good
support
for
increasing
the
density
of
the
r4
zone
and
in
Bregan
Mechanicsville,
but
not
if
that's
going
to
mean
increase
in
the
building
envelope.
If
staff
intend
to
allow
for
the
building
envelope
to
increase,
then
we
need
to
have
a
very
different
consultation,
because
that's
not
the
consultation.
H
It's
not
the
message
that
residents
are
hearing
today,
melody
I
can
get
you
take
that
off
screen,
but
what
I
am
hoping
is
that
colleagues
will
support
me
and
rejecting
this
I
believe
that
there
is
a
way
for
the
developer
to
accommodate
this
building
within
the
building
permitted
building
envelope
by
narrowing
the
parking
or
shifting
the
stairs
over
changing
the
Outland.
The
the
the
building
footprint
in
order
to
fall
within
the
intent
of
the
new
are
four
rules
which
is
to
accommodate
that
greater
density
within
currently
permitted
building
envelopes
chair.
A
Thank
you
very
much
Aaron
and
you
know
thank
you
as
always
you,
you
know,
we
don't
know
surprises.
We
have
opportunities
to
discuss
this
in
advance.
You're,
always
like
very
good
at
that,
and
I
can
tell
you.
We
appreciate
it
especially
to
get
on
a
day
like
today.
So
is
anyone
else
want
to
speak
to
this
item?
You
see
anything.
Anyone
melody,
no.
B
C
C
I
Right,
counselor,
Thank,
You,
counselor,
hider
counselor,
our
members
of
committee,
just
with
respect
to
the
parking
this.
This
proposal
is
having
parking
in
the
side
yard
the
opposite
side
yard,
where
the
proposed
stairs
are.
It
is
to
be
a
tandem
parking
there
is
it
on
the
side,
they're
not
asking
for
any
relief
to
the
parking
requirements
being
provided
mind
you.
The
zoning
bylaw,
does
not
require
parking
for
units
that
are
under
12,
although
they
are,
in
this
instance
providing
those
2
there,
but
just
to
say
with
respect
to
the
r4.
I
There
is
a
lot
one
of
the
issues
or
one
of
the
emphasis
is
on
green
space
in
the
front
yard.
For
example,
their
parking
is
and
conformance
with
the
zoning
bylaw.
They
do
have
a
lot
of
green
space
in
the
front
yard,
as
well
as
the
rear
yard,
but
in
a
spot
for
bicycle
parking
in
the
back.
The
way
the
parking
is
provided,
there's
still
the
opportunity
to
get
to
the
back
yard
to
reach
to
reach
where
garbage
might
be,
is
internal
but
brought
out
through
the
side
yard.
C
C
Terms
of
feasibility
in
terms
of,
could
the
parking
area
be
narrowed
or
is
it
is
it
at
the
maximum
or
minimum
I?
Just
don't
understand
how,
based
on
what
councilor
leaper
said,
could
it
the
building
just
be
shifted
to
reduce
the
parking
I
think
that
that's
what
he
said
is
that
something
that
planning
staff
looked
at
or
considered,
or
how
would
you
consider
that,
as
part
of
this
evaluation
of
the
application.
I
Madam
chair,
with
respect
to
the
parking
and
how
this
would
be
looked
at,
and
we
will
see
that
the
providing
parking
that's
in
accordance
with
the
bylaw,
we
would
look
at
if
they
had
parking,
there's
still
the
opportunity
for
access
to
the
rear
yard.
It
still
lacks
ability
to
get
garbage
out
of
the
back.
I
They
could
shift
the
building
over,
of
course,
but
from
the
planets
perspective,
the
parking
that's
being
there
in
accordance
with
the
viola,
the
building
would
not
need
to
shift
the
issue
of
the
stairs
on
the
other
side
you
can
have
stairs
in
the
side,
yard
are
for
release,
do
not
having
stairs
in
the
rear
yard.
What
we
take
a
look
at
is
through
the
second
process.
Can
those
stairs
be
screened?
Yes,
they
can
be
screened.
What
is
the
impact
on
the
building
next
door,
which
is
about
three
meters
away?
I
In
our
opinion,
that
is
minimal,
so
does
the
building
need
to
be
moved
over
to
eliminate
the
parking
and
are
in
looking
at
this?
We
looked
at
it
through
the
zoning
process
and
the
answer
would
have
been
no.
Madam
chair.
The
parking
is
fine
on
the
site
it
does
conform
with
the
zoning
and
the
impact
of
having
the
building
where
it's
located
with
respect
to
all
the
other
yards,
including
the
site
area,
but
the
stairs
is
minimal
on
the
adjacent
properties.
C
So
and
you're
looking
to
at
the
distance
the
side
of
the
building
that
has
the
stairs
you're,
also
looking
at
the
distance
that
the
neighboring
current
neighboring
home
is
and
you've
determined,
I
think
you've
determined
that
there's
sufficient
distance
between
the
existing
home
and
where
this
the
edge
of
this
stairway
would
be.
Is
that
right.
I
M
Okay,
so
essentially,
what
what
Doug
just
mentioned
was
kind
of
what
I
was
looking
at.
Obviously,
we
had
an
exchange,
a
number
of
us
prior
to
the
meeting
in
which
Doug
laid
out
some
of
the
criteria
for
why
staff
support
it
particularly
related
to
the
stairwell,
and
he
touched
on
that
just
now
in
response
to
lens
so
I'm
good.
H
J
A
A
A
B
A
B
I,
could
item
number
seven,
the
modification
to
the
Official
Plan
amendment
number
136.
It
was
listed
there
as
only
applying
to
kanata
north,
but
I
had
talked
to
staff
beforehand
and
I
see
a
fair
bit
of
this
was
in
my
ward.
I
was
supportive
with
the
report,
but
I
see
on
the
agenda.
It
only
shows
some
work
in
that
should
show
that
it
applies
to
both
Ward's
in
case.
Anybody
from
the
public
is
following
along:
okay.
A
Good
point
so
you're
talking
about
on
the
agenda
itself,
we're
on
the
board,
okay,
and
we
run
into
that
quite
often
with
councillor
Moffat
and
myself
and
councillor
Gower
and
councillor
Moffat,
a
little
bit
I
think
with
councillor
Ellen,
Terry
and
councillor
suds,
probably
or
maybe
even
councillor
MA,
but
anyways.
That
will
be
corrected
with
the
ward
boundary
review,
we're
hoping,
but
that's
a
while
off.
Well.
B
A
A
That's
great
thanks
for
raising
that
counter.
You
bleep,
okay,
okay!
So
now
we
do
have
a
notice
of
motion
and
vice-chair
Gower
is
going
to
move
the
notice
of
motion
and
you
should
read
the
the
whole
motion,
because
normally
we
wouldn't
bother
with
you
notice,
but
in
this
case,
in
these
times
please
go
ahead.
C
C
Marketing
space
is
required
for
per
square
meters
of
gross
floor
area
and
whereas
the
general
manager
of
planning,
infrastructure
and
economic
development
has
concerns
of
this
method,
of
calculating
parking
as
leading
to
certain
uses,
having
an
oversupply
of
parking
which
has
negative
environmental
consequences
and
could
lead
to
over
built
infrastructure
and
whereas
non
office
employment
patterns
are
changing
based
on
space
utilization,
automation
and
more
use,
use
of
shift
work.
And
whereas,
when
city
economic,
democracy.
C
Popping
back
opportunities
potential
applicants
find
the
process
of
seeking
of
variants
or
rezoning
to
customize
parking
to
their
uses
as
a
disincentive
to
picking
sites
in
Ottawa.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
planning
committee
recommend
to
council
that
staff
be
directed
to
bring
forward
a
scope
review
of
the
methodology
for
calculating
minimum
parking
standards
for
non
office.
Employment
uses
to
allow
further
relationship
between
the
nature
of
the
use
and
the
required
parking
supply.
A
A
Okay,
so
I
wanted
to
in
any
inquiry,
send
anybody
okay,
so
another
business
I
wanted
to
address
something
that
came
in
to
some
of
us
during
this
meeting
and
it
was
and
I'm
going
to
be
specific
about
it
and
I'm
going
to
read
it
into
the
record,
because
not
all
of
you
who
were
on
the
committee
received
it
and
the
ones
that
didn't
receive
it
would
be
councilor
hubely,
councilor,
Judah's,
councillor,
Moffat
and
councillor
Tierney
and
I
know
that
throughout
this
meeting,
I
have
mentioned
quite
a
few
times
that
so
we
did
receive
communications
from
Trevor
hashe,
and
so
he
took
the
time
to
write
to
me
during
this
meeting
and
I'm
gonna
read
it
into
the
record
and
because
your
coffee
miss
Japanese,
you
can
certainly
include
it,
but
it
has
to
do
with
the
email
that
he
sent
yesterday,
which
the
rest
of
you
on
committee
were
copied,
as
well
as
a
lot
of
other
people,
and
you
know,
I
have
no
problem
with
you.
A
Sharing
the
email
because
he's
sent
it
in
this
fashion,
including
the
media,
and
make
sure
you
capture
anyone
that
he
sent
this
good
morning
Jan
while
I
do
very
much
appreciate
your
lengthy
response.
In
brackets,
that
was
sent
to
me
at
8:30
p.m.
last,
which
I
read
late
last
night,
I
find
the
city's
approach
to
this
to
be
an
adequate.
It
appears,
and
this
should
come
as
no
surprise,
that
the
technology
exists
to
allow
for
live
public
delegations,
but
the
city
has
not
properly
made
this
opportunity
available
to
the
public.
A
I
can
appreciate
that
these
are
trying
times
and
I
know
everyone
is
adjusting
to
shifting
ground,
but
with
all
the
city's
resources
in
the
clerk's
office
and
elsewhere.
I
urge
you
all
to
please
prioritize
accommodating
live
public
delegations
online
or
over
the
phone
from
this
day
forward
from
this
day
forward.
So
on
the
on
the
comment
to
me
that
I
was
late
in
sending
it
when
you
sent
that
yesterday,
there
were
five
questions
that
and
therefore
five
different
pieces
that
you
were
speaking
to.
A
A
But
you
know
what
this
is
a
time
when
we're
doing
our
best
we're
all
doing
our
best,
including
me
and
I,
have
65,000
people
at
least
a
lot
going
on
with
the
pandemic
and
trying
to
keep
up
to
speed
with
that
and
make
sure
that
my
residents
are
have
my
duties
with
planning.
Have
my
duties
with
many
many
things
that
we
we
all
are
involved
with,
and
what
I
think
subject
to
most
is
the
fact
that
you
you
your
comments
with
regard
to
what
the
staff
I
think
it's
maybe
just
apply.
A
Maybe
they
maybe
it's
only
against
me.
I,
don't
know,
but
the
fact
that
you
know
you're
pointing
out
the
technology
exists
and
I
can
tell
you
that
the
IT
department
has
been
working
for
a
couple
of
weeks
now,
steadfastly,
with
the
city
clerk's
department,
to
try
and
make
this
work.
Public
consultation
is
absolutely
paramount
importance
to
us
in
this
city.
We
do
our
very
best
all
the
time
there
was
a
consideration
not
to
have
the
meeting
today,
but
when
I
asked
staff,
if
they
would
be
better.
A
If
excuse
me,
if
we
were
to
hold
off
on
that,
I
was
told
no
chair.
This
is
going
to
be
invaluable
for
us
to
learn
what
works,
what
doesn't
work
and
what
we
can
add,
because
on
May
the
11th
we
have
a
very
important
public
delegation.
Heavy
I
would
expect
a
joint
meeting
of
the
planning
committee
and
of
the
Agriculture
and
Rural
Affairs
Committee,
and
it's
absolutely
important
that
we
are
able
to
manage
that
to
the
very
best
of
our
ability.
So.
A
A
For
these
same
reasons,
we
want
to
do
the
best
that
we
can
and
I
will
also
say
that
in
Ontario
were
unique
and
other
larger
centres
are
watching
us
to
see
how
we're
managing
this
so
that
they
can
keep
their
engine
moving
forward.
It's
absolutely
important,
so
I
thank
everybody
for
their
attention
today
and
excuse
me
and
in
particular,
as
I,
said
staff,
because
a
very
large
team
pulled
to
get
today
together
and
miss
Stephanie
I
want
to.
Personally.
Thank
you
for
for
your
efforts.
Does
anyone
know
anybody
else
have
any
other
business,
Casserly
/.
A
H
A
We'll
see
you
hopefully
on
May
the
11th
starting
at
9
o'clock,
where
we
considered
the
new
official
plan,
growth
management
strategy
and
then
our
next
regular
meeting,
if
we
can
call
it
regular
I,
mean
we're
also
alone
using
this
as
a
template
to
how
best
be
able
to
go
forward
with
our
other
very
important
standing
committees.
So
the
next
plant,
regular
planning
committee
will
be
a
May
14th
thanks
everyone
we're
adjourned.
Thank
you.