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Planning Committee meeting - November 20, 2018 - Audio Stream
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A
Sort
of
committee,
members
and
staff
have
an
opportunity,
review
and,
and
certainly
the
delegations
as
well
and
the
applicant
clarify
your
motion
during
the
special
America.
Thank
you.
So,
as
is
tradition,
this
being
the
final
meeting
of
this
term,
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
what
we
have
accomplished.
We
reached
the
end
of
this
term
of
counsel
in
our
final
planning
committee
meeting
and
enough
wondering
where
the
four
years
have
gone
with
this
committee
to
meet
so
often
it
just
has
passed
the
time.
A
I
think
the
time
is
certainly
flown
by
mostly
because
we've
been
so
busy
there's,
no
denying
that
the
planning
is
the
most
active
of
all
city
councils,
standing
committees
and
we've
certainly
had
no
shortage
of
interesting
discussion.
It
has
been
a
responsibility
to
weigh
in
on
literally
hundreds
of
items
hundreds
of
files
in
this
term
and
if
I
can
take
a
few
moments,
I'd
like
to
shoot
the
horn
of
everyone.
That's
been
involved
in
that
process
between
the
staff
of
planning,
services,
infrastructure
services,
heritage
planning
and
economic
development.
A
This
committee
has
considered
762
committee
reports
over
the
last
four
years.
That's
an
average
of
nearly
200
reports
per
year,
each
one
backed
up
by
the
advice,
analysis
and
recommendations
of
city
staff.
As
councillors.
We
would
be
unable
to
do
this
job
without
your
advice
and
I
want
you
to
know
how
much
we
all
appreciate
your
hard
work
now.
I
didn't
add
a
legal
I
should
say
legal
as
well
mr.
A
milk,
as
councillors,
we
would
be
unable
to
do
this
job,
but
only
do
not
only
do
you
produce
the
insightful
reports
put
before
us,
but
you
are
here
at
every
meeting
to
clarify
and
answer
tough
questions.
It
might
not
always
be
easy,
but
for
the
members
of
this
committee
it's
always
valuable.
So
thank
you,
of
course,
given
help
jam-packed
a
meeting
agendas
tend
to
be.
These
reports
do
stack
up
it's
a
lot
of
reading
and
it's
not
always
easy
digestible
material
either.
The
issues
we
tackle
together
are
often
complex
and
sometimes
divisive.
A
A
Subcommittee
thousand
result
in
changes
to
bothersome
policies
and
impact
future
development
like
changes
to
zoning
for
r4
and
multi-unit
residences,
or
regulations
about
where
Coach
houses
can
be
built.
All
of
these
things
we
have
dealt
with
in
the
past
four
years
and
that's
in
addition
to
a
whole
host
of
applications
for
site-specific
zoning
and
official
point
of
amendments
for
new
residential
developments,
infill
projects,
suburban
subdivisions,
high-rise,
condo
towers
and
everything
in
between.
A
So
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
absorb
the
information
put
before
us
and
for
engaging
in
meaningful
and
valuable
discussion,
and
all
these
files
are
more.
The
result
has
been
sound
planning
decisions,
even
if
those
decisions
are
not
always
popular.
I
would
like
to
thank
the
residents
dedicated
community
association,
members
and
development
professionals
who
have
come
out
to
our
meetings.
Thank
you
for
your
interest
in
the
discussion
and
for
your
patience.
A
I
know
that
you
sometimes
have
to
wait
hours
for
the
chance
to
have
your
say
on
a
particular
proposal
or
to
see
the
outcome.
It's
important
for
us
transparency
as
a
government
that
the
public
follow
and
be
engaged
on
planning
matters.
Finally,
I
would
thank
the
journalists
who
come
to
these
meetings.
You
follow
our
committee
with
great
interest
and
rapport
discussions
fairly,
informing
those
residents
who
can't
be
here
about
what's
going
on
in
our
city.
So
thank
you
for
that.
The
next
time
this
committee
meets
it
could
look
very
different,
but
I
have
no
doubt.
A
We
will
continue
to
be
busy
a
new
development
charges.
Bylaw
is
due
in
2019
very,
very
important,
and
you
know
one
that
can
Serb
way
and
I
have
talked
about
so
very
many
times,
and
you
develop
at
stage
two
of
LRT
to
get
underway,
which
will
bring
its
own
land-use
implications
as
well
as
additional
transit
oriented
development
projects.
A
To
consider
the
massive
development
at
lebreton
flats
will
certainly
occupy
a
lot
of
time
and
the
development
of
the
new
Official
Plan
will
get
underway
next
year
with
a
four-year
process
that
ultimately
will
be
considered
by
this
committee.
Those
are
just
a
few
of
the
things
opponents
that
I
liked,
which
present
on
their
annual
work
plan
in
January.
The
committee
will
no
doubt
have
plenty
to
occupy
it
in
the
new
term
of
Council.
A
That
first
meeting
of
Planning
Committee
is
is
urbanism
generally,
we
don't
know
later
on
in
January,
I'm
thinking
the
22nd
bank,
just
because
I
was
looking
at
my
calendar
today
and
I
noticed
there
wasn't
anything
in
it
and
I
thought.
Oh
well,
that's
probably
planning
committee,
but
for
now
I
just
want
to
take
a
quick
look
back
at
how
much
we've
achieved
together
and
to
say.
Thank
you
for
the
past
four
years,
so
thank
you.
Everyone,
any
declarations
of
interest,
then
confirmation
of
minutes
from
my
meeting
on
October
9th
way.
A
A
Going
to
change
pages
here,
the
designation
of
Kaabah
cottage
for
2010
that
Avenue
and
depart
for
the
Ontario
Heritage
Act.
We
have
most
because
I
wonder
if
anyone
have
any
questions
is
its
carried.
Thank
you
now.
Kannada,
a
bureau
secondary
plan,
amendment
and
environment
assessment
I
see
that
counselor
reference
is
not
here
yet
and
counselor
QB
as
a
matter,
so
the
traffic
coming
in
from
Canada
and
by
heaven
must
be
rotten.
A
We
haven't
had
a
presentation
on
that
one.
So
Reggie
failed
in
that
item
and
three
is
only
bylaw
amendment.
For
forty
twenty
five
standard
drive,
that's
the
harmony,
continuation
of
harmony
and
sumo
theater
I
saw
do
you
need
to
speak
with
a
prepared
eukaryote?
Thank
you.
Anybody
have
any
questions
on
this.
Is
it
carried
Thank
You,
Zoe
bylaw
amendment
part
of
30:25
Albion
Road
north
we're
holding
that
because
we
have
speakers
number
five.
Is
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
1000
Thomas
Spratt
place?
B
B
A
So
so,
okay,
so
hang
on
a
minute.
I
also
have
Nancy
Milosh
here
Nancy.
Do
you
need
to
speak
if
they
preferred
to
carrier
so,
sir?
If
no
one
has
any
questions,
we
don't
have
any
question.
Okay,
all
right,
so
you
don't
need
to
speak
if
we're
prepared
to
carry
it.
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
So
is
this
item
carried
there
you
go,
CERN
will
be
off
to
council
next.
Thank
you,
part
of
300
reinforced
road
zoning
bylaw
amendments
on
those
speakers,
myself
enemy
myself.
A
Do
you
need
to
speak
to
prepared
note
I
towards
a
sudden
carried
okay,
as
only
bylaw
amendment
for
for
1500
drive,
Taylor
Marquis
remark:
this
is
it
how
to
say
it?
Mine
was
right
now
refrigerated.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
on
how
to
drive?
No,
so
are
you
no
need
to
speak?
Okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
Is
it
carrying?
Thank
you.
Number
eight
is
339
Cumberland
Street.
A
C
You
very
much
madam
chair
and
I'll
just
read.
Heed
therefore
be
resolved
that
the
staff
report
ACS
2018,
p,
IE,
PS,
0
1
0
7
be
revised
as
follows:
a
revised
document
3
part
2
of
the
court,
a
CS
2018
PS,
0,
1
0
7
by
replacing
the
words
amend
exception,
1967
to
section
2,
3
9,
with
a
Tanny
exception
to
section
2,
3
9
and
be
it
further
resolved
that
pursuant
to
planning
at
subsection,
34
17,
no
further
notice
be
given.
Thank.
A
Number
nine
is
the
zoning
bylaw
amendment
for
352
is
a
treat
place.
They
took
that
in
retreat,
obey
me
and
we
have
lived
Lightfoot
and
Janis
Messam
and
we
have
Jesse
Smith,
and
it
says
here
that
he
wish
to
speak
only
if
there's
opposition
okay,
so
does
anyone
have
any
opposition
to
this
item?
This
is
this:
is
a
wonderful
Israel?
A
A
So
the
first
item
is
held
is
the
kanata
north.
I
demand
I'd
like
somebody
to
contact
counselor
Wilkinson's
office
to
make
sure
she
is
intending
to
come,
but
I'm
sure
it
was
the
traffic
very
down
over
two
hours.
That's
what
I
said
when
you,
the
both
of
you,
weren't
there
so
I'm,
pretty
sure
that
that's
what
it
is,
but
that's
confirmed
that,
but
then
I
don't
have
any
speakers
on
that
item
that
we
are
having
a
presentation.
A
C
A
D
D
What
I
believe
when
we
move
over
and
I
with
easy
under
two
400
employees
will
be
out,
and
there
are
larger
trucks
that
will
really
ease
the
traffic,
especially
won't
be
on
the
traffic
time.
L
am
here
just
because
I
live
in
the
idea,
just
two
blocks
away
from
the
project
I'm
in
support
and
the
smell
is
here.
It's.
A
D
C
D
Perhaps
always
terribly
so
that
the
community's
objections
are
just
out
on
the
traffic.
Nobody
objects
to
the
spirit
and
and
the
goal
of
what
is
attempting
is
being
attempted
here
in
terms
of
this
project.
In
fact,
I
would
say
these
projects
are
extremely
important
to
the
overall
health
of
a
well-functioning
city
and
community
and
were
strongly
supportive
of
that
work.
The
problem
with
this
is
that
we
do
feel
that
I
as
a
city,
I'm
speaking
inclusively
all
of
us
will
do
better
job
at
planning
locations
for
these
types
of
facilities.
D
We've
heard
of
the
challenges
that
this
group
has
gone
through
over
the
years
trying
to
secure
a
location
on
which
to
build,
and
what
we
find
is
is
that
the
location
that
they've
been
able
to
get
because
large
developers
don't
want.
It
is
not
ideal
to
to
this
type
of
location,
and
it
goes
down
to
site
use.
D
My
friends
that
just
spoke
mentioned
that
you
know,
with
the
episode
of
hydro,
Ottawa
hydro,
that
traffic
will
drop.
I
have
a
copy
of
table
14
from
the
applicants
own
traffic
report.
That
clearly
indicates
that's
not
the
case.
Traffic
will
actually
increase
markedly
and
at
hours
that
are
don't.
We
don't
typically
have
traffic
right
now,
midday
evenings
weekends,
very
significant
traffic
increases,
is
over
above
an
existing
problem
that
we've
been
trying
to
address
for
years
we've
a
recent
report
was
submitted.
D
I
don't
have
a
copy
here
that
the
cut
through
traffic
through
our
small
community,
as
increased
from
1300
vehicles,
a
David
mm.
This
additional
traffic
will
be
over
and
above
that
we
have
two
small
schools
in
the
area.
How
Kitchener
and
album
are
to
two
ways
to
access
this
site.
It's
on
a
dead-end
street,
so
this
increase
in
traffic
is
going
to
be
very
limited
in
terms
of
their
options
of
how
to
access
that
that
Center.
D
A
You
have
to
finish,
you
have
four
seconds
left,
I'm,
good,
okay,
so
I
think
it's
your
first
time
coming
here.
It
is
right
and
I
think
you
did
very
well
that's
how
yeah,
by
holding
Symba,
would
come
from
this
side
of
the
table
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
we
have
somebody
were
to
speak
to
transportation
and
I'm,
going
to
ask
you
to
do
that.
The
impact
some
of
the
suggestions
that
were
made
or
comments
were
made
as
to
the
validity
of
the
report
of
the
increase
that
you
anticipate
being
significant,
not
significant.
D
The
reference
to
a
table
14
identifies
all
the
various
activities
that
will
be
happening.
It
doesn't
isolate
each
one
that
could
be
happening.
Journey
AM
and
PM
are
what
I
mean
to
say
is
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
traffic
off-peak
on
a
Saturday
when
the
road
traffic
is
at
its
minimum,
so
it
would
not
affect
the
overall
traffic
you're.
D
The
matter
of
fact,
that's
quick
hold
on
I
was
going
to
continue
on
with
that
the
net
difference
that
was
being
referred
to
the
weekdays
a.m.
it's
roughly
140
vehicles
per
hour
existing
and
the
proposed
is
150
vehicles
per
hour.
That's
about
it,
ten
vehicles
per
hour
difference
and
in
the
PM.
It's
roughly
under
30
vehicles
per
hour
for
both
existing
and
proposed.
D
A
Thank
you,
I
I
can
tell
you
that
I
know
that
time.
I
spoke
with
councilor
DS
yesterday
and
I
spoke
with
councilor
Brockington,
and
the
issue
of
some
kind
of
traffic
mitigation
is
going
to
be
discussed
at
site
plan
and
I
know
that
councillor
Dean's
intends
to
hold
a
meeting.
It's
then
this
is
in
her
ward,
and
that
will
be
a
topic
that
both
of
them
have
discussed
and
I
know
that
councillor
Brockington
is
going
to
ask
for
a
direction
to
include
it.
A
E
A
B
In
Arabic,
Allahu
wasallam,
the
proposed
community
center
would
be
a
welcome
addition
to
the
community,
however,
cut
through
traffic
and
safety
concerns
from
cut
through
traffic
is
an
ongoing
problem,
but
it
easily
resolved
in
a
one-hour.
Neighborhood
experiences
ever-increasing
cut
through
traffic
just
recently
up
from
over
1300
to
over
2,000
cars
a
day.
It
should
be
pointed
out
that
one
of
the
planners
did
not
accurately
indicate
traffic
volumes.
I
say
to
all
future
neighbors.
B
Your
community
center
would
be
a
successful
beyond
your
expectations,
maybe
even
more
traffic,
probably
or
you
may
find
that
expenses
are
higher
than
projected,
and
the
banquet
hall,
the
warehouse
and
the
clinic
which
you
have
planned
would
have
to
be
pressed
into
service
to
increase
revenues.
We
perhaps
an
unanticipated
increase
and
cut
through
traffic
cuts
through
traffic
makes.
All
of
us
suffer
frequently
many
suffer
intensively,
and
some
almost
beyond
the
point
of
concern,
a
lot
of
comfort
and
safety.
B
One
resident
even
had
two
cars
in
the
short
space
of
time
go
through
the
front
of
their
home.
The
police
cannot
simply
enforce
restrictions.
City
councilors
met
here
on
the
20th
of
November
2017,
with
the
finance
and
audit
police
board
committee
to
hammer
home
to
the
Ottawa
police.
That
residents
want
to
see
more
traffic
enforcement
by
city
officers
and
misses
from
the
Ottawa
Citizen.
While
the
chief
said
that
he
hears
complaints
from
both
city
politicians
and
their
presidents,
he
said
there
would
be
no
additional
money
earmarked
for
traffic
enforcement.
B
Councillor
Keith
Begley
said
residents
continue
to
ask
him
where
the
police
are
and
where
the
enforcement
is,
because
they
just
don't
see
it
Ahmir.
Do
we
every
pressed
asking
how
many
of
50
new
officers
hired
in
the
last
two
years
and
the
25
to
be
hired
next
year
would
be
specifically
assigned
to
traffic?
The
chief
said
the
answer
is
none
councilor
Raleigh
Balkans
and
asked
when
traffic
is
a
significant
issue
to
residents.
Police
have
not
addressed
their
concerns.
B
The
police
chief
said
the
forces
busy
balancing
traffic
and
force
meet
with
competing
challenges
in
the
city,
such
as
disorder
issues,
ongoing
opioid
crisis
and
dealing
with
cannabis
shops,
counselor,
rowdy,
Washington,
said:
traffic
continues
to
be
the
number
one
priority
for
residents
because
that's
what
they
live
and
breathe
every
day
the
police
chief
said
I
hear
you.
This
underscores
the
reason
why
we
would
link
rezoning
directly
to
preventing
cut
through
traffic.
B
We
have
worked
in
the
past
cooperatively
with
the
Shoppers
Drug
Mart
Home
Depot
camera
opposed
to
squeeze
the
Salvation
Army
and
many
others
always
would
clearly
agreed
to
you.
Whitney
guarantees
enforcement
impossible.
You
are
there
by
the
city,
our
neighbors
are
promising
to
be
stellar
neighbors.
You
can
easily
demonstrate
that
I
say
to
you
now
by
meeting
us
halfway.
B
Your
committment
talking
to
me
others,
I,
say
to
you
to
read
to
me
rezoning
to
guarantee
our
guarantee
rather
of
preventing
cut
through
traffic,
would
solve
the
problem
right
here
and
now
you
might
ask
why
we
seek
such
firm
assurances
to
that.
We
say
we
have
learned
from
Lane
much
from
people.
You
have
made
us
promises
and,
given
us
a
choices
that
would
be
ideal,
it
is
only
to
be
exactly
the
opposite.
We
are
knowingly
or
unknowingly
in
recent
applications.
Rezoning
applications
like
Glaber,
Park,
26mm,
Avenue
and
many
others
all
went
off
the
rails.
B
It
is
because
their
community
associations
took
initial
assurances
at
face
value,
but
also
could
did
not
foresee
all
the
possible
exploitation
of
zoning
applications
to
prevent
irreversible
problems.
They
are
now
permanently
savvy
with
if
there
any
reason
the
community
center
backside
of
its
plan,
as
they
have
already
from
the
original
one,
and
someone
else
takes
over
that
site,
they
will
have
no
reason
to
feel
obliged
to
honor
any
promises
the
previous
owners
may
have
made.
One
thing
the
Ridgemont
Community
Association
has
learned.
B
The
hard
way
is
to
always
expect
the
unexpected
and
to
be
prepared
for
the
accidental
the
unforeseen
and
be
unpredictable.
This
applications
to
be
fair
to
both
sides.
We
are
asking,
and
our
usual
term
loosely
here
that
some
new
link
be
made
with
the
rezoning
application.
And/Or,
some
kind
of
a
holding
provision
should
be
added.
Thank
you
very
kindly.
All
thank.
A
D
B
B
B
So
to
answer
your
question,
the
traffic's
coming
from
all
directions
and
with
the
Community
Center
coming
in
here
they're,
the
people
that
are
coming
here
will
come
from
everywhere
too,
and
they
use
our
streets
as
shortcuts
to
get
to
Albion
to
get
to
walking
to
get
to
sell
our
end
points
beyond
the
answer.
Your
question
please,
I,
have
not
really
fit.
D
Looking
at
it
I'm
thinking
to
myself,
I
was
a
driver
and
I
wanted
to
get
to
this.
This
building
I
would
turn
down
a
street
that
is
called
Kitchener
right
and
then
I
would
turn
left
up
on
an
Albion
but
you're
saying
that
people
are
turning
onto
all
the
other
streets
in
intersect.
Yes,
oh
thank
you
and
Foxfire
Notting
Hill,
except
not.
B
We've
all
had
a
plan
for
cutting,
you
know
preventing
cut
through
traffic.
Perhaps
this
might
be
too
my
presentation
for
you.
I've
declared
them
to
come
back,
but,
as
you
know,
Bank
Street
is
being
developed
or
redeveloped
from
Lakeland
downtown
to
the
Home
Depot,
and
our
section
between
walking
and
Home
Depot
comes
up
in
the
next
five
years,
and
we
intend
to
bring
these
to
you
together
in
such
a
way
that
we
can
prevent
cut
through
traffic
for
the
neighborhood
sure.
D
B
I'm
understanding
your
question
correctly,
you're
asking
me:
how
can
we
clear
them
cut
through
traffic
coming
into
the
neighborhood
yeah?
But
who
are
the
people
who
are
cutting
through
the
neighborhood
is
perhaps
the
question
you
want
to
ask
the
people
who
are
cutting
through
the
neighborhood?
Aren't
people
enlarge
the
1300
to
2,000
cars
who
lives
they're
coming
from
out
ottawa
sake
and
they
need
to
get
to
I.
D
B
No
speed
but
never
will
yep
right.
Yes,
you
did
good.
My
pleasure
to
measure.
Do
you
think,
would
work
selective,
selective
access
to
streets,
for
example,
if
you
go
on
for
Florence
in
the
Byward
market
area,
though
a
lot
of
streets
that
are
too
late,
but
you
actually
can
get
in
from
one
side
when
you
can
turn
left
onto
the
other
side.
So
what
arguing?
What
I
would
suggest
is
that
at,
for
example,
at
the
corner
of
Vancouver
in
Bank
that
there
be
a
median
right
there
that
prevents
people.
That's.
D
E
A
A
It
gets
me
directly
to
a
major
arterial,
so
I
think
that
where
councillor
Boyle
is
interested
morning.this
trying
to
say
is
how
can
you
identify
the
traffic
that
you
see
within
your
neighbourhood
as
being
people
that
live
there
or
people
that
are
actually
cutting
through?
And
what
would
the
reason
be
for
that
I'm,
just
council
walking
to
meant
councillor
Dean's,
have
questions
I,
think
just.
E
Again,
a
little
context:
the
turning
restrictions
off
banker
in
the
morning,
so
people
from
the
south
who
don't
live
in
the
Ridgemont
community,
again
forced
to
take
the
arterial
lords
bank
to
Walkley.
That's
the
way,
that's
being
promoted
in
the
afternoon.
What
we're
having
on
Kitchener
is
residents
from
outside
the
community,
whether
they're
coming
from
Hetherington
or
East
Walkley,
coming
down
Albion
to
Kitchener,
to
beat
all
the
traffic
lights
on
walkway
and
Bank.
E
It's
just
quicker
and
easier
for
non
local
residents
to
take
Kitchener
and
they
come
to
that
light
rate
where
the
LCBO
distribution
center
is,
and
that's
always
been,
a
left-hand
restriction
in
the
afternoon
3:30
to
5:30.
So
what
mr.
Payne
referenced
is
because
no
one
was
respecting
that
last
summer,
working
with
staff
I
made
that
a
red
light
for
two
hours
straight.
The
light
never
turns
green
for
two
hours.
There's
nothing
new
added,
because
there's
always
been
a
left
and
restrictions
or
having
a
permanent
red
light
adds
nothing
new
to
the
situation.
E
But
that
was
again
to
force
people
from
stopping
make
the
illegal
turn.
So,
yes,
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
little
context
to
that.
So
mr.
Payne
just
again
for
people
how
long
have
you
been
on
the
Community
Association
thirty
years?
And
you
just
and
you
see,
cut
through
traffic
in
your
community
as
a
major
concern
for
many
years?
Yes,.
E
By
car
and
you'll
know
working
with
me
in
this
particular
term
of
Council
on
Kitchener,
we've
had
painted
messaging.
Yes,
we've
done,
yellow
flex,
Texas,
we've
done
speed,
display
progress
and
we've
done
a
permanent
red
light.
Yes,
some
have
been
more
effective
than
others.
This
doesn't
reduce
volume.
A
G
Having
said
that,
though,
and
listening
to
you,
what
I'm
detecting
is
that
the
frustration
is
currently
existing
and
my
concern
is
the
member
of
council
for
the
old
Boyett
Center,
where
they
were
hoping
to
locate,
is
to
the
extent
that
new
proposed
use
contributes
to
traffic
issues,
then
I
believe
it
is
appropriate
to
address
them
at
site.
Plan
and
I
have
spoken
to
council
Bulkington
about
it.
G
We
both
work
collaboratively
to
make
sure
that
happens,
but
I
don't
want
to
with
the
impression
that
we're
going
to
fix
all
the
traffic
issues
currently
existing
on
a
coupler,
that's
coming
through
heaven
or
anywhere
else
on
the
other
pilot
center.
We
can't
ask
them
to
address
all
of
those
issues
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
acknowledge
that
I.
B
Couldn't
agree
with
you
more,
but
just
like
renovating
an
old
house,
you
know
the
elbow
is
connected
to
the
shoulder
is
connected
to
here
and
there.
So
everything
comes
all
together.
What
I've
learned
over
30
years
and
our
former
president,
who
isn't
here
anymore
taught
me,
is
always
expect
the
unexpected.
Whatever
someone
tells
us,
you
get
50
cars
in
all
whatever
it
is,
it's
always
three
times
the
amount
and
if
you
look,
you
know
in
Ottawa
and
anywhere
in
the
world
for
that
matter,
whatever
the
projections
are
they're
awfully
low.
B
So
you
have
to
prepare
for
that
and
keep
in
mind
this
Bank
Street
development
is
for
the
next
50
years,
so
I'm
not
pinning
all
the
responsibility
on
the
community
center
I'm
asking.
You
know:
here's
a
good
opportunity
to
address
this
problem,
but
also
keep
in
mind.
The
community
center
has
the
potential
preventing
in
large
numbers
of
people
like
I
mentioned.
They
may
find
the
need
to
increase
their
revenues
and
have
the
banquet
hall
running
like
tell
us
and
marker
every
night,
which
would
be,
as
you
know,
on
Weston
this
cars
parked
all
over.
B
If
you
look
at
we,
the
lobby's
restaurant,
which
was
turned
into
a
religious
place
in
order
and
Friday
there's
cars
parked
all
over
the
place
and
frequently
accidents
and
so
on.
So
what
we're
saying
is
not
just
clearing
things
out
of
a
half
it's
from
very
hard
observation
and
I.
Think
someone
asked
me
if
I
knew
the
cars.
How
do
you
know
the
cars
are
coming
in
the
neighborhood
every
morning?
I
work
outside
in
my
yard,
for
about
45
minutes
and
I,
see
all
that
all
the
cars
I
go
around.
B
The
neighborhood
and
I
know
whose
car
belongs
in
which
yard
now
I
know
which
ones
are
cutting
I'm,
not
saying
I'm,
right,
100%
of
the
time,
but
perhaps
maybe
80
to
90.
You
know
you
had
rabbits
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood,
you
get
to
know
the
label
and
and
who's
coming
and
going
and
so
on.
Thank
you.
G
Okay,
but
as
long
as
we
agree
that,
to
the
extent
that
Center
increases,
the
traffic
will
address
that,
but
remember
counsel
needs
to
work
with
the
Community
Association,
which
I
know
he
has
been
doing
on
addressing
a
broader
and
I
guess.
The
other
thing
I
would
say
that
you
need
to
think
about.
Is
that
holiday
or
the
world-building
is
a
significant
size
building
was.
E
B
A
H
H
Address
is
3:05
arguable,
which
is
about
maybe
a
holiday
to
do
on
a
treat
Bubba
away
from
the
existing
hydrogen
and
ready
and
that
penalty
and
just
for
tonight,
and
that
you
already
have
a
favorite
and
ready
started.
A
the
Afra
structure
to
prety
office
narratives,
which
can
house
up
120
officers
response
to
a
year
later.
Is
there
the
concerns
of
the
traffic?
We
do
share
the
same
issue
of
them
as
far
as
the
traffic
into
the
area,
but
this
issue
has
been
existing
for
them.
H
They
understand
it
has
nothing
to
do
our
measures
and
a
community
center,
a
regular
Canadian
Center.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
it's
not
much
of
the
community
center.
It's
a
free
time
screen
that
causes
about
170
students
out
of
at
some
time,
and
we
don't
anticipate
to
see
any
significant
agrees
and
members
of
stillness
of
that
school.
H
One
load
I
would
like
to
make
here
today
in
a
delay
where
they
connect
with
the
in
some
of
the
numbers,
but
in
fact
a
reality.
If
you
look
at
the
existing
they
do
for
out
of
the
hydro.
Did
you
have
me
hundred
days
plus
the
visitors
on
a
daily
basis,
but
we're
through
the
area
and
press
the
holiday
780
trucks
began.
Three
days
speeds
on
the
daily
basis,
many
for
others.
H
Seven
days
a
week
is
the
present
PLO
has
at
seventy
eighty
five
eight
days
this
case
civilian
will
have
minivan
in
any
size
if
you
need
to
increase
our
presence
there.
So
this
is
twenty
five
days
at
a
daily
basis,
plus
an
average
40
to
50
vehicles,
drop-off
and
pickup
every
day.
So
sixty
to
seventy
to
eighty
cause
difficulties
is
a
lot
less
than
Fair.
Haven
infinity
is
going
to
keep
that
area
and
a
daily
basis,
plus
two
hundred
and
said
the
trucks.
H
A
la
hydro
do
just
like
I
said
we
do
share
the
same
concern
that
we
have
the
consulate
Rockefeller
Castle
Dean,
that
sometimes
that
I
do
understand
the
concern
and
the
degree
that
this
issue-
and
we
have
a
serious
concern
but
I,
think
the
issue
here
is
the
neither
compliance
in
that
area.
It's
not
the
traffic
fact
that
I
see
a
rocketing
some
measure
in
that
area
by
changing
the
light
yesteryear.
H
Until
unless
that
alert
debates,
you
did
actually
hit
big
nervous
because
I
mean
and
that
areas
right
and
I
do
joke
around
there.
A
lot
and
I
could
see
what's
happening.
Then
let
be
the
issue
as
a
matter
of
fact
decreasing
significantly.
The
traffic
going
to
that's
area
I
did
be
that
up
in
the
public
media
that
the
weeks
ago,
when
you
talk
together,
because
a
lot
of
our
people
are
coming
to
school
in
a
daily
basis,
deliver
home
behind
to
kept
safe
economy
in
there.
H
So
they
do
be
usually
and
a
Walkley,
which
will
be
a
much
more
usual
than
very,
very
traditional
such
to
take
a
right
if
it
hadn't
milk
and
basted
the
collective
out
in
godless,
because
this
that
is
very,
very
cultural.
Some
of
the
streets-
that's
732,
Lampe
deity,
detective
a
thunders
to
say
where
the
gardens
enough.
So
this
of
the
issues
that
elected
me
then
and
that
we
know
issued
and
even
work
with
the
city
work
with.
H
A
E
E
So
even
though
we
all
agree
that
those
high
bill
vehicles
and
employs
will
no
longer
be
in
the
community,
that's
true,
when
you
add
the
functions
of
your
school
community
center
mosque,
there's
a
net
increase,
so
I
just
want
committee
members
to
know
too
that
as
a
fact-
and
that
has
been
proven
by
their
folks.
But
what
I
want
you
to
confirm
today-
and
my
question
is
because
we've
talked
about
this
before
and
I
think
there
needs
to
be
reassurances.
Is
that
you
and
your
Center
will
not
oppose
traffic
calming
initiatives
within
the
community.
E
H
H
I
I
So
we
know,
based
on
the
count
of
permission
and
the
analysis
that
we've
done,
that
the
existing
two-way
traffic
on
Kitchener,
during
the
midday
and
during
the
weekday
p.m.
peaks
and
those
two
peaks
were
selected
as
the
worst
case
because
of
the
different
combination
of
uses,
the
mass
will
have
midday
crea
times
which
are
highest
attendance
on
Friday
midday.
So
we
looked
at
that
as
the
worst
case,
as
well
as
the
PM
rush-hour,
because
there
is
a
school
component
and
there's
a
variety
of
uses.
E
I
A
Then
and
then
what
would
the
presumption
be
I
think
is
regular.
Obviously,
not
all
that
traffic
is
going
to
turn
left
and
go
on
to
Kitchener
I
mean
sure,
but
I
don't
want
to
get
sidetracked
on
them
and
have
a
presumption
that
everybody
attending
for
any
purpose.
The
current
hydro
Ottawa
is
going
to
head
up
Kitchener
inet
way,
as
I
said
as
a
person
within
a
lot.
I
have
never
even
considered
that
one.
So
my.
E
A
I
So
we
identified
what
the
traffic
is
likely
to
be
for
each
of
those
needs
and
through
that,
more
than
what
our
critical
time
periods
when
we
overlay
that
on
top
of
the
road
traffic
and
then
in
terms
of
how
it
was
assigned
to
the
road
network,
we
assigned
a
40%
at
abbien
to
walk,
lead
and
split
it
equally.
At
walkways
for
20%,
less
20%
is
done
lackey,
and
then
we
also
have
another.
The
balance
assigned
to
thank
and
acknowledge
those
term
restriction
kitchener.
I
So,
during
the
midday,
those
turn
restrictions
don't
apply,
so
it
is
only
than
a
kitchenette
bag
and
in
the
p.m.
there
is
the
restriction
on
the
westbound
left
get
another
kitchen
to
go
second
bank.
So
we
that
traffic
and
assume
that
people
go
and
we
can't
recommend
anything
but
enforcement
when
you
don't
and
that
we
assign
them
to
Albion
in
terms
of
the
capacity
of
the
roads,
we
put
them
to
admin
and
up
to
walk
low
and
them
down.
I
So
when
we
do
take
that
component
of
this
site,
traffic
that
is
assigned
to
Kitchener
and
we
layer
that,
on
top
of
the
existing
during
those
critical
peaks,
the
existing
to
a
is
around
150
1116.
There
was
an
hour
so
quite
a
bit
less
than
300
and
then,
when
we
add
on
the
site
traffic
during
that
midday
when
it's
highest,
it's
in
the
order
of
eighty-five
additional
vehicles
per
hour
and
repeated
last
about
40,
and
so
the
total
projected
is
still
in
the
order
of
230.
Then
that
midday
and
200
in
the
p.m.
I
so
at
worst
we
are
still
sitting
around
70
or
80
percent
of
that
threshold
for
when
an
area
that
is
required,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
point,
and
also
in
terms
of
what
does
beautify
additional
vehicles
during
the
day
feel
like
it
works
out
to
about
an
additional
vehicle
every
minute
or
so
additional
vehicle
every
45
seconds
and
in
the
PM
it's
an
additional
vehicle.
Every
minute
and
a
half.
A
G
You,
madam
chair,
will
be
proposed,
and
only
by
that
Center
up
to
thirty
twenty
two,
our
motors
up
north,
it's
in
my
world,
but
it's
it
is
on
the
boundary.
So
it's
in
close
proximity
to
council,
Brockington,
sward
and
certainly
the
potential
adverse
impacts
of
traffic
will
be
felt
more
encounter.
Wellington's
Ward's.
We
certainly
understand
why
there's
concern
from
that
community.
Having
said
that,
just
to
follow
up
on
what
Malthus
said
about
the
process,
it
was
back
in
2016
that
the
alibi
out
Center
purchased
the
property
at
1395
lb
mode.
G
They
did
that
because
many
of
the
people
that
attended
molluscum
school
lives
in
my
ward
in
the
south
end
of
the
city
and
the
currently
in
varying
ways.
So
they
wanted
to
get
in
closer
proximity
more
home,
other
one
driving
on
a
road,
so
much
so
to
inform
to
her
corporate
location
in
that
neighborhood
was
very
important
to
them,
so
they
purchased
property
3095,
it's
just
closer
to
their
real
one.
G
We
considered
sort
of
at
the
very
end
and
for
their
gary
says,
the
city
was
very
concerned
and
working
with
them
that
the
site
was
too
small
for
what
they
wanted
to
do,
and
it
had
some
concerns
about
the
proximity
to
three,
where
the
emotion
or
heart
that
is
they're
so
working
with
the
center,
they
found
the
hydro,
Ottawa,
building
and
I
have
to
say.
From
my
perspective,
this
is
a
really
great
move
for
full
out
site,
however,
otherwise
relocating
to
unclog
road
and
they're.
G
Locating
that
site
I,
don't
think
it's
that
easy,
a
building
to
find
an
appropriate
risk
for,
but
for
me
this
would
be
the
fifth
most
that
establishes
in
my
word
and
the
biggest
challenge.
Another
people
of
mass
in
the
world
will
notice.
The
biggest
challenge
is
the
parking
issues
associated
with
the
mask
and
the
brilliance
of
the
Sun.
It
was
parked.
There
has
a
lot
of
space,
and
so
Perkins
should
not
be
an
issue
on
this
side
and
it's
the
biggest
challenge
I
had
with
on
the
other
month,
how
we
accommodate
the
time
of
worship.
G
You
know
it's
a
great
ways
for
the
community
is
in
a
transitional
area
between
more
industrial
races
and
residential
versus.
So
for
me,
I
think
you
know
I
think
a
lot
about
their
masks,
and,
oh
my
word,
because
it
seems
like
it's
a
great
area
on
the
city,
but
there's
not
a
lot
of
places
that
don't
come
with
conflicts
with
communities,
especially
on
parking,
and
this
is
one
of
the
ones
I
think
is
actually
about
the
best
I
can
think
of
as
a
location
for
a
mass
to
establish
a
remote.
G
So
I
just
wanted
to
say
the
issues
of
community
are
raising
of
site
plan
issues
and
today
extent
that
the
mask
is
contributing
to
the
traffic
issues,
but
we
will
commit
to
addressing
those
at
so
plan
but
from
a
zoning
perspective,
has
weird
I,
think
it's
a
great
location
and
closer
with
the
other
pilot
center
for
the
last
couple
of
years.
I
excited
to
welcome
them
into
my
world
and
I
know
that
they're
too
far
behind
there
for
many
years,
Thank.
E
So
my
commitment
to
my
community
has
always
been
to
address
these
issues.
We've
talked
today
about
some
issues
that
have
already
been
undertaken
and
I've
worked
with
traffic
services
staff,
particularly
over
the
last
month,
to
look
at
some
additional
options
and
I'm
actually
satisfied
with
what
the
potential
can
and
will
be
and
again
working
with
councilor
Dean's
on
site
plan,
as
this
is
located
just
inside
five
meters
inside
the
Gloucester
Southgate
Ward.
So
in
speaking
with
mr.
A
Thank
you
very
much
thanks
for
everyone
for
coming,
and
thanks
for
your
initiative,
councillor
Dean's
I
know
that
it
has
been
a
very
difficult
sight
and
you
know
when
you
think
about
other
large
machinery
type
vehicles,
event
that
could
be
Tomlinson
or
something
like
that
that
could
go
in
there
and
and
I
work
there
for
the
city,
for
that
matter,
with
all
the
equipment.
I
think
that
it's
it
was
a
great
initiative
up
here.
So
thank
you
very
much.
So
only
item
is
it's
a
Kent.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Alright.
A
A
F
Is
a
something
we've
been
working
on
for
some
years,
I
think
have
had
four
public
meetings
on
it.
The
city
owns
land
in
this
area
as
well
as
privately
owned
brand.
So
it's
a
very
complex
area
because
of
a
town
center
part
which
we
remained,
the
billet
Oran
Park
is
within
that,
and
this
sub
amendment
is
to
enlarge
the
park,
which
is
said
meeting
some
of
the
objectives
of
a
community
setting
up
the
changes
that
have
happened
in
the
last
20
years
and
the
need
for
residential
units.
In
things
of
that
nature.
F
In
here,
and
to
look
at
how
we
might
the
future,
we
were
to
turn
part
of
kanata
Avenue
into
a
Main
Street
and
have
that
type
of
it
services.
It
touches
many
many
different
aspects.
I
can
tell
you,
I've
been
working
with
some
staff
too,
and
some
of
this
exam
so
to
get
some
core
our
support,
supportive
housing
in
that
area
and
that's
coming
together.
So
it's
going
to
be
very
close
to
where
the
light
will
some
year,
maybe
with
some
time
this
decade
or
next
decade.
F
At
may,
this
century
we'll
come
to
Canada
and
the
meantime.
There's
a
service
right
at
the
door,
so
it
has
a
lot
of
attributes
that
are
very
important,
though
this
can
I
know.
If
now,
I
have
eleven
highlights
burdens
of
my
word.
Mouse
unusual
has
had
to
be
built.
I've
got
two
more
under
construction
and
two
more
in
hands
now
seven
to
15,
and
this
is
an
area
where
the
highest
density
is
a
sculptor
to
residential
other
residential
is
close
to
shopping.
F
D
You
can
ensure
the
morning
this
is
a
scoped
official
plan,
amendment
all
for
the
secondary
plan
of
the
Kannada
town
center
and
an
environmental
assessment
for
the
stretch
of
Kannada
Avenue.
That
goes
through
that
that
private
town
center
you'll
be
hearing
from
the
lead,
planner
Emily
Davies.
On
the
official
plan,
amendment
and
Shawn
Doyle
on
the
environmental
assessment.
I
Good
morning,
madam
chair
I'll
provide
a
brief
overview
of
the
official
plan.
Amendment
component
of
this
application
and
I'll
pass
adapter
Shawn.
So
the
report
recommendations
in
front
of
you
include
four
different
recommendations.
Two
of
the
recommendations
are
with
regards
to
the
official
plan
amendment
component
address.
I
The
town
center
site,
specific
policies
include
study.
Second,
the
Connecticut
incentive
site.
Specific
policies
were
brought
forward
from
the
former
Canada
at
the
time
of
amalgamation,
but
the
proposed
amendment
includes
a
scoped
provision
to
expand
an
open
space
parcel
within
the
city
owned
lands
of
the
town
center.
This
result
the
result
in
a
larger
business
or
larger
public
park.
The
amendment
provides
updates
to
the
policy
direction
to
reflect
the
deletion
of
an
identified
Main
Street,
which
is
currently
not
constructed
and
which
bisects
the
open
space
parcel
located
on
the
city-owned
land.
I
I
The
updates
to
the
mapping
schedules
are
also
proposed
as
part
of
this
package
to
reflect
the
language
degradation
changes
and,
lastly,
the
proposal
to
include
the
concept
then,
which
is
now
up
on
the
screen.
This
concept
plan
illustrates
how
the
city
and
lands
could
be
developed,
fronting
on
to
Kannada
Avenue,
Concord
rive
and
the
Canadian
Shield
admin,
and
now
I
pass
it
out
to
Shawn
Doyle,
who
will
speak
to
the
EIT
portion.
D
Thank
you
so
now,
Avenue
EA
covers
the
stretch
of
canal
Avenue
from
Lord
Byng
way
to
Earl
Grey
Drive,
essentially
from
just
north
of
highway
417
to
just
south
of
Compal
Drive.
The
study
was
undertaken
originally
really
for
two
purposes:
to
establish
and
get
approval
to
the
widening
of
this
portion
of
Canal
Avenue
to
four
lanes
and
to
transform
the
section
to
provide
a
complete,
Street
accommodating
all
modes
of
travel.
This
project
is
within
Phase
two.
D
This
project
started
a
little
while
ago,
we
actually
started
in
in
the
spring
of
2013
and
since
then,
we've
had
three
points
of
public
contact.
We
had
three
public
open
houses.
Sorry,
three
from
the
points
public
contact
through
public,
open
houses,
we've
also
had
a
number
of
land,
our
meetings
and
meetings
with
the
counselor
and
and
we've
actually
attended
the
councillors
community
meetings
to
provide
project
updates,
and
we
are
really
at
the
end
of
the
planning
process.
D
The
next
step
for
this
project
would
be
to
post
the
notice
of
completion
and
to
take
the
project
through
the
statutory
requirement
for
a
30-day
public
review
period,
assuming
support
from
the
committee,
so
really
the
features
of
the
cross
section,
and
then
we
may
be
to
the
next
slide.
Please
is,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
to
provide
a
complete
Street
looking
to
accommodate
all
modes
of
travel
and
while
accommodating
them
encouraged,
walking
and
cycling
in
this
area.
Also,
the
design
represents
very
good,
integrated
planning.
D
So,
as
I
mentioned
briefly
earlier,
the
next
steps
from
this
project
are
to
finalize
the
environmental
study
report,
taking
into
account
any
comments
or
direction
from
this
committee
and
from
council
itself.
We
would
then
file
the
notice
of
completion
and
take
the
project
through
the
required
30
day
review
process.
D
When
you
say
this
is
a
phase
2
project,
Natick
TMP,
it
does
cannot
Avenue
exist
today,
and
this
is
a
road
widening,
or
is
this
brand
new
construction?
This
phase
2
TMP
project?
Madam
chair
Canada,
Avenue
exists
today.
The
the
project
as
defined
in
the
TMP,
is
the
roadway
widening
from
existing
two
lanes
to
four
lanes.
Okay
and
the
road
is
classified
as
an
arterial,
okay,.
D
A
B
Good
morning,
Madame
chair
just
wanted
to
thank
the
committee
for
allowing
me
to
speak
this
morning.
I'm
senior
vice
president
for
Panetta
deity
corporation
we've
been
bathing
in
the
town
center
and
working
with
the
community
and
the
city
for
almost
30
years,
specifically
on
this
project.
So
we
run
through
a
number
of
phases,
starting
with
the
first
phase,
which
was
the
community
center
starting
in
the
early
2000s.
We
started
transitioning
into
the
RSU
to
Land's,
which
is
Ray
the
culmination
or
the
transition
between
traditional
community
commercial
and
the
highest
order.
B
That
was
vision
for
the
town
center.
So
tivity
years
we
participated
with
a
number
of
studies
through
conservation
scene,
as
well
as
through
the
city
really
overlaying
the
vision
for
the
regional
shopping
center,
which
is
a
kind
of
a
defined
term
under
the
the
secondary
plan
and
plan
policies
linking
it
to
a
town
center.
B
Through
that
vision,
you
know
we
had
really
signed
off
and
then
participated
in
a
comprehensive
look
to
how
do
we
integrate
and
create
the
highest
order
experience
in
the
town
center?
It
obviously
allows
for
a
multitude
of
years.
It
allows
for
transition,
expansion,
intensification
and-
and
you
know
from
our
standpoint
this
was
a
very
much
a
collaborative
manner
in
the
sense
that
the
town
center
and
the
regional
shopping
center
are
joined.
The
successor
both
our
queue
to
the
community
that
keeps
the
objectives
of
all
involved.
B
We've
got
the
potential
of
a
LRT
expansion,
significant
dollars
and
investment
to
the
community,
and
that's
at
the
heart
of
our
Center.
So
we
very
much
value
the
investment
that
the
city
is
looking
to
make
within
the
as
well
as
within
the
center.
It
would
be
the
focal
point
as
we
move
forward,
that
is
an
amenity
to
the
ability
for
us
to
intensify
the
center
to
meet
the
objectives
that
are
said
under
the
policies
are
a
what
we're
driving
towards.
B
So
we're
not
here
to
identify
that
we're
not
in
favor
of
Darrell
and
we're
not
here
to
definitely
develop,
identified
or
not
live
department
of
the
city.
I
think
what
we're
looking
to
express
some
concerns
in
is
just
what
we
believe
is
that
I
think
we're
just
a
little
bit
premature,
maybe
that
the
the
secondary
planted
European
amendment
that's
been
proposed
by
the
city
in
conjunction
with
the
EAS
another
capital.
Investment
really
has
been
uncoordinated,
with
the
vision
for
the
regional
shopping
center.
B
In
that
instance,
our
success
day
is
predicated
on
the
success
of
the
community.
So
we're
looking
to
engage
the
city
are
more
of
a
comprehensive
way
to
review
the
policies
and
the
design
guidelines
and
everything
to
make
the
center
and
this
community
what
it
needs
to
be
and
what
it
will
be.
So
again,
the
concerns
really
to
date
is
that
the
Scopes
Nature
has
been
put
forward.
B
We
don't
feel
reflect
the
the
intention,
the
multitude
of
studies,
open
houses
with
respect
to
the
overall
Kannada
town
center
and
weave
through
the
process
into
the
public
engagement
we've
expressed
these
concerns
to
staff,
but
we
believe
SAS
mandates
effectively
will
to
bring
forward
a
sloped
amendment,
whether
that
was
from
the
intention
of
trying
to
keep
it
in
the
context
of
dealing
with
the
city
lands.
We
can't
speculate
but
I
believe
our
feedback
has
been
that
you
know
we
want
to
partner
in
this
success.
B
We
want
to
partner
in
the
success
of
the
community
and
in
order
to
do
so,
we
believe
and
Evo
is
felt
that
that
success
is
really
predicated
on
a
larger.
How
does
the
regional
shopping
center
integrated
into
the
town
center
lends?
There
is
a
very
significant
mainstream
component
that
was
identified
in
the
secondary
plan
policies.
That's
that's
really.
It
has
been
deleted
in
this,
so
you
know
from
that
standpoint.
A
Thank
you,
and
the
scope
of
this
is
really
quite
minor
in
nature,
from
what
you're
talking
about
in,
and
you
know
when
you
think
about
transit,
oriented
development,
etc.
I
mean
your
prime
candidate
for
that
and
I
see
that
going
so
just
like,
we
will
with
the
wicked
fields
that
we
just
did
with
other
acres,
that
we
did
with
best
gauge
that
sort
of
thing.
But
what
the
scope
of
us
is
is
certainly
not
going
to
repeat
that
at
all
I'll
just
ask
Jenny.
Have
any
any
questions.
F
So
this
is
primarily
designed
for
the
central
business
district
section,
which
is
across
the
road
from
you
to
city
lands
and
Urbandale,
lance
and
Vidya
and
I
think
that,
as
we
said,
I
don't
want
to
close
this
up
anymore.
Even
talk
about
this
now
for
the
first
meeting
set
up,
there
was
in
2013
it.
So
what
many?
F
Who
would
like
to
see
this
moving
forward
now,
although
that
the
importance
of
continuing
to
work
on
what
is
on
the
advanced
the
shopping
center,
we
have
a
behavior
now,
which
is
also
interested
in
working
with
you
on
how
that
land
that
area
could
become
a
primed,
a
town
center,
so
I
think
putting
it
up
now.
It
doesn't
make
sense.
I
just
want
to
know
why
you
think
it
it
does
have
that
impact
on
you
sure.
B
Three
men
chair
fundamentally,
our
concerns
relate
to
the
lens
that
we
have
about
in
Kanata
Avenue.
So
again,
the
idea
is
that
these
lands
are
transitional
lands.
There
is
an
effect
for
those
lands
predicated
on
what
is
ultimately
division
for
the
north
side
of
commodity,
and
given
that
this
is
a
combined
LPA
and
effectively
that
the
presentation
that
the
city
has
made
with
respect
to
looking
at
Kannada
Avenue
the
vision
for
Kannada
Avenue,
we
have
always
felt
that
we
are
involved
in
that.
B
We
should
participating
in
that
to
the
extent
that
the
improvements
affect
the
shopping
center.
Again,
we're
not
here
to
debate
the
RSC
180,
our
c2
designations,
fundamentally
you're
here
to
deal
with
the
are
c3
designations,
which
are
the
linens
on
the
south
side
of
Kannada
Avenue.
So
we've
been
brought
into
this
through
the
combined
APA
as
well
as
a
year
and
again.
The
concern
specifically
is
that
those
lands
are
designated
under
the
decidua
policies
to
be
high-density,
employment
and
based
on
the
state
specific
or
the
APA.
B
That's
been
proposed
again
additions
to
be
potentially
a
different
vision
for
the
north
side
of
Kannada
Avenue.
So
all
we've
asked
is
that
until
we
can
understand-
and
until
we
can
be
satisfied
that
that
vision
is
consistent,
that
we
will
in
effect
be
that
transition
between
the
regional
shopping
center
and
whatever
the
future
holds
for
Avenue.
B
That
that's
been
the
nature
of
the
conversation.
We're
not
ultimately
concerned
that
residential.
We
really
need
to
help
the
detail.
Quite
honestly,
more
retail,
more
customers
in
the
market
helps
there's
just
there
is
a
designation
on
our
portion
of
the
lands.
Today,
that's
affected
by
what
the
city
that
envisions
for
the
north
side,
and
that
was
predicated
on
the
vision
for
the
north
side
of
the
lanes
so
has
been
the
permit.
F
And
sunsalute
lands
always
been
going
for
development,
but
this
does
is
reduce
the
development
land
because
by
adding
to
the
park
that
sir,
madam
chair
I,
think
this
is
for
this
dialogue
has
been
going
on
for
some
years.
I'm
glad
they're
not
actually
changing.
What's
allowed
them
things
that
they
didn't
remember
a
few
years
ago.
That
would
help
you
at
your
request,
which
making
some
changes
along
canal
Avenue.
So
we
have
dealt
with
some
of
those
issues
and
if
there
are
additional
ones,
the
city
will
deal
with
them.
D
Madam
chair,
mr.
Rosetti
is
correct.
The
the
scope
of
our
amendment
here
is
very
limited,
and
what
we
have
heard
from
inequity
is
that
there
is
a
wish
and
a
desire
to
take
a
broader
look
at
the
future
of
their
lands
and
the
totality
of
the
cannot
attend
center
lands
which
in
our
months
should
take
place,
and
we
have
every
intention
of
having
that
discussion
and
involving
all
of
the
landowners
who
are
close
to
the
Kannada
town
center.
I
can
see
that
the
upcoming
Official
Plan
review
could
be
one
opportunity
for
that
to
happen.
D
Another
is
typically
with
the
stage
three
IRT
extending
to
Kannada,
as
the
city
has
done.
We
look
at
the
vicinity
of
major
stations.
This
is
a
major
station,
so
we'd
be
looking
at
assisting
pen
equity
in
other
landowners
in
rethinking
the
the
future
of
their
lands.
Rethinking
the
evolution
of
that
shopping
center,
as
the
city
in
our
department
has
done
further
shopping,
centers
in
similar
circumstances,
so
deco
councillor
Wilkinson,
madam
chair,
the
city
is
prepared
to
continue
to
work
with
the
landowners
in
the
Kannada
town
center.
A
A
And
you
know,
councillor
Wilkinson
is
is
correction
saying
and
we
have
looked
at
bits
and
pieces
of
it
if
it
was
the
one
that
happened.
You
know
what
the
real
tire
and
then
the
after
what
was
there
when
I
was
last
year.
I
think
remember
personally,
that
no
that's
not
that's
right,
anyways,
okay,
so
before
us
today
is
the
kanata
Avenue
secondary
plan,
amendment
and
environmental
assessment.
C
C
C
Remember
the
first
day,
I
came
out
of
consummating
and
why
the
reporter
said
to
me
well
counselor
what
was
your
first
impression
of
this
constantly
and
I
said
to
myself
and
to
the
police.
Everyone
felt
like
I
was
in
a
sandbox
and
the
reporter
asked
me:
would
you
mean
by
a
sandbox?
That's
well,
you
know
the
discussion
of
that
happening
on
the
table
with
something
similar
to
a
child.
Saying
give
my
lollypop
back
and
the
person
says.
Well,
how
do
you
raise
your
lollipop?
C
The
child
says
well,
I,
lift
it
I
opened
it
I
licked
it.
So
it's
my
lollipop
gear
back,
so
that
was
my
first
way.
You
know
presumptions
and
assumptions
of
the
City
Council
so
that
a
proto
widely
said
wisely
said
to
me.
He
says
in
all
that
you
played
in
the
sand
castle.
What's
your
mandate,
I
said
my
mandate
for
this
council
and
for
my
as
it
my
role
as
a
councillor
is
to
project
a
best
City
of
Ottawa
sand
castle
coming
out
of
those
meetings.
C
C
But
city
decided
that
it's
going
to
become
a
suburban
neighborhood
and
that's
exactly
what
we
become
a
suburban
neighborhood,
we're
still
the
people
to
care
and
do
work
in
the
community
to
help
make
it
better,
and
some
of
those
peoples
have
come
to
this
audience
table
and
said
this.
What
we're?
Looking
for
this
is
what
we
think
we
should
have
instead,
so
some
of
that
has
happened
and
has
come
to
fruition.
C
The
thing
for
each
one
of
you,
especially
like
closer
colleagues,
as
you
already
know,
is
to
build
your
communities
to
the
best
way.
You
think
that
is
going
to
help
you
in
neighborhoods,
in
your
communities,
keeping
in
mind
as
23,
individual
communities
or
counselors.
You
represent
one
piece
of
the
puzzle
and
it's
that
puzzle.
This
planning
committee
has
an
opportunity
to
put
together
and
does
every
time
it
meets
and
before
it
meets.
C
So
it's
my
pleasure
this
morning
to
say
thank
you
to
you,
as
my
colleagues
and
to
my
previous
colleagues
that
have
sat
around
this
table
with
me
and
to
city
staff,
the
planning
staff.
You
know
I
started
my
term
here
with
John
Moser
as
general
manager
of
planning,
along
with
other
respected
members
of
the
planning
department
today,
I'm
leaving
with
Stephen
Willis
of
the
general
manager
and
very
capable
heads
and
he's
done
a
great
job
since
he's
taken
over
this
portfolio.
C
C
That's
what
this
community
is
about.
That's
what
the
city
is
where
the
customer
service
doesn't
happen
on
its
own
customer
service
takes
dedicated
people
like
customer,
harder
and
other
members
of
this
committee
and
residents
of
this
city
to
make
that
customer
service
stick
and
be
pleasant
and
be
polite
and
be
courteous.
C
That
comments
sat
in
the
audience
gallery
with
respect
that
especially
respect
for
their
opinions
and
that's
the
key,
because
those
people
take
time
out
of
their
busy
schedules
to
come
in.
To
speak
with
us.
And
at
least
we
could
do
a
signal
given
five
minutes
of
our
time
to
say
their
piece
and
listen
to
their
piece.
C
The
other
thing
I've
heard
from
you
again
over
and
over
again
along
this
committee,
is
how
well
bar
Haven
or
Nepean
sorry
was
a
one
with
cautious
rally
in
your
side.
Gourd
hunter
there
at
the
same
time,
and
people
like
Merrill
Lynch
from
Slits
well
as
one
of
the
planners
in
that
top
government
level,
and
the
thing
I've
always
admired
virtue
jet
beside
the
fiery
redhead
is
the
fact
that
most
of
the
time
I
would
tell
a
hundred
percent
of
the
time.
C
C
It's
your
land,
this
community's
role
to
make
that
complexity.
Better,
understand,
understood,
sorry
and
that's
what
you
do
all
the
time
you
dig
to
the
bottom,
and
you
find
that
one
key
nugget
to
say
this
will
make
not
everybody
happy,
but
a
move,
the
process
forward
and
that's
what
a
role
of
a
committee
chair
is.
So
thank
you
for
all
about
work.
John
over
the
years,
I.
C
C
C
Building
better
smarter
suburbs,
suburban
neighborhoods
I,
remember
the
bus
trip
that
came
in
two
steps.
Well,
where
there's
some
of
our
colleagues
and
asked
some
of
the
issues
that
were
being
not
only
raised
in
Statesville
but
other
areas
of
the
city.
How
do
we
work
through
those
and
what
do
better
development,
better
communities,
better
neighborhoods.
C
The
expansion
we
will
elect
complex.
You
know
folk
fees,
one
which
was
done
through.
We
were
don't
yet
to
page
two
and
three
to
make
it
a
modern
center
for
a
growing
community,
as
it
is
today
I'm
happy
to
say
that
Stitz
will
I'm
leaving
behind
as
well
counselor,
but
not
leaving
behind
as
a
community
is
a
strong
community
and
will
continue
to
grow
and
its
projected
population
up
to
seventy
thousand
in
the
next
25
years.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
up
here
in
FA.
I
have
forgotten
to
somebody.