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From YouTube: Standing Committee on Environmental Protection, Water and Waste Management - 17 Dec 2019 (1/2)
Description
Agenda and background materials can be found at http://www.ottawa.ca/agendas
C
E
Thanks
Don,
this
morning's
presentation
was
built
as
a
walkthrough
of
the
report
recommendations.
I'll
start
with
an
overview
of
the
first
set
of
recommendations
which
asked
that
committee
received
the
2017
and
2018
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
Inventories
approved
the
new
short
mid
and
long-term
targets
to
reduce
corporate
emissions
by
a
hundred
percent
by
2040
and
community
emissions
by
a
hundred
percent
by
2050,
as
well
as
approve
the
proposed
climate
change
master
plan,
which
includes
eight
priority
actions.
E
And
real
then
present.
The
second
half
of
the
report,
recommendations
which
ask
that
committee
receive
an
update
on
energy
evolution
which
includes
the
draft
energy
and
emissions
model,
as
well
as
the
draft
list
of
twenty
proposed
projects,
direct
staff
to
bring
forward
the
final
energy
evolution
report
in
q2
of
2020,
which
will
include
the
final
energy
and
emissions
model.
The
detailed
project
descriptions
as
well
as
the
financial
analysis
delegated
authority
to
the
climate
change.
E
Council
sponsors
group
to
provide
the
mayor
with
a
list
of
priority
areas
and
activities
to
advocate
to
senior
levels
of
government,
on
opportunities
to
implement
the
climate,
change
master
plan
and
supporting
documents
and
finally
approve
the
spending
plan
for
the
unspent
hydro,
Ottawa
dividend.
Surplus.
E
Worldwide
climate
scientists
agree
that
the
fast
rising
global
temperatures
have
created
a
climate
emergency
in
2018,
the
Intergovernmental
Panel
on
Climate
Change
or
more
commonly
referred
to
as
the
IPCC
released.
A
special
report
that
provided
the
scientific
evidence
for
the
need
to
limit
global
warming,
increases
to
1.5
degrees.
Celsius.
Scientists
estimate
that
we
could
reach
the
1.5
target
within
the
next
10
years,
but
that
achieving
the
1.5
target
is
possible
with
rapid,
far-reaching
and
unprecedented
changes
in
all
aspects
of
society.
E
In
response
to
the
latest
climate
science,
more
than
900
cities
and
jurisdictions
around
the
world
have
declared
a
climate
emergency
within
Canada.
Over
450
and
regional
governments
have
declared
a
climate
emergency
along
with
the
with
Canada's
our
sorry.
The
Canadian
has
the
Commons
in
the
Assembly
of
First
Nations
on
April
24th,
Ottawa,
City
Council
joined
the
global
movement
and
declared
a
climate
emergency
for
the
nation's
capital.
E
The
proposed
climate
change
master
plan
has
a
vision
to
take
unprecedented
collective
action
to
transition
Ottawa
into
a
clean,
renewable
and
resilient
city
by
2050.
This
is
guided
by
the
principles
that
everybody
has
responsibility:
to
manage
energy
consumption,
to
mitigate
risks.
That
collaboration
is
needed
amongst
everyone
to
affect
change
and
develop
joint
solutions
that
municipal
leadership
is
required
to
ensure
an
integrated
and
comprehensive
approach
among
the
corporation
and
the
community.
E
In
recent
years,
Ottawa
has
made
progress
in
investing
in
in
implementing
mitigation
adaptation
measures.
Key
mitigation
initiatives
include
building
of
the
light
rail
transit
network
and
investing
in
electric
buses,
landfill
gas
improvements
at
railroad
waste
facility,
incorporating
further
energy
of
fishing
efficiency
measures
at
city
facilities
and
developing
the
Complete
Streets
implementation
framework.
Key
adaptation
measures
include
the
Public,
Health
and
emergency
preparedness
flood
risk
management,
which
includes
updating
the
flood
plain
mapping
the
combined
sewage
storage
tunnel,
which
is
a
signature
project
under
the
Ottawa
River
action
plan
and
the
urban
forest
management
plan.
E
At
the
city
we
undertake
two
types
of
greenhouse
gas
emission
inventories,
community
and
corporate,
starting
with
community
community
inventories,
track
emissions
associated
with
those
activities
that
happen
within
the
geographic
boundaries
of
Ottawa
and
are
broken
down
into
four
sectors:
buildings,
transportation,
waste
and
agriculture
in
2018.
Over
roughly
90
percent
of
our
missions
came
from
the
buildings
and
transportation
sector,
which
is
a
consistent
power
that
we've
seen
since
2012.
E
If
you
look
at
the
largest
contributing
energy
source,
that
would
be
natural
gas,
followed
by
gasoline
and
diesel
corporate
emissions
track
missions
related
to
our
municipal
operations.
It's
also
broken
down
into
four
sectors:
facilities
fleet,
which
can
be
broken
down
into
transit
fleet
municipal
fleet
and
police
fleet
trail
road
waste
facility
and
row
peck.
The
largest
contributing
sector
within
the
corporate
inventory,
was
fleet
with
transit
fleet
accounting
for
52%
of
emissions,
and
they
mean
associate
accounted
for
13%
of
emissions.
E
Diesel
is
the
largest
contributing
source
within
the
corporate
inventory,
accounting
for
60
percent
of
corporate
emissions.
In
2018,
the
corporate
sorry
corporate
emissions
accounted
for
roughly
five
percent
of
total
community
missions,
but
it's
estimated
by
the
Federation
of
Canadian
missed
qualities
that
the
municipality
has
influence
over
roughly
half
of
the
missions
within
a
community.
E
We
currently
have
three
council
approved
greenhouse
gas
emission
reduction
targets.
We
have
a
short
term
community
target
to
reduce
emissions
by
twelve
percent
by
2024
and
a
long
term
target
to
reduce
community
emissions
by
80%
by
2050.
On
the
corporate
side,
we
have
a
short
term
target
to
reduce
emissions
by
2024
by
20,
sorry
by
20%,
by
2024.
E
Since
22,
since
2012
community
emissions
have
decreased
by
14%,
this
is
largely
attributable
to
the
former
provincial
governments
decision
to
phase
out
coal
plants
and
the
significant
reductions
associated
with
generating
electricity
in
Ontario.
On
the
corporate
side,
emissions
have
decreased
by
36
percent
since
2012.
This
is
largely
attributed
to
the
decline
in
emissions
due
to
the
increased
landfill
gas
capture,
efficiencies
actual
trail
road
waste
facility,
as
well
as
also
benefitting
from
the
provincial
phase-out
of
coal
plants
and
efficiency
made
within
the
city
facilities.
E
E
The
first
three
priorities
are
well
underway:
andreal
will
walk
us
through
energy
evolution
in
momentarily
on
the
resilience
side,
staff
are
working
with
National
Capital
Commission
and
the
Environment
and
climate
change
Canada
on
developing
climate
projections
for
the
National
Capital
Region,
and
is
expected
that
this
information
will
be
released
in
q2
of
2020,
which
will
then
lead
into
a
vulnerability
assessment
which
will
be
initiated
also
in
2020.
And,
lastly,
the
preliminary
policy
directions
for
the
Official
Plan
were
approved
by
council
last
week
that
incorporated
energy
and
climate
resiliency
considerations.
E
These
critical
areas
include
piloting
corporate
carbon
budgets
within
the
planning
infrastructure
and
Economic
Development
Department
and
Ottawa
Public
Health,
exploring
carbon
sequestration
methods,
encouraging
private
action
through
multiple
avenues
and
developing
a
governance
framework
in
order
to
keep
us
on
track
staff
proposed
annual
reporting
to
committee
that
would
include
annual
community
and
corporate
emission
inventories,
progress
towards
achieving
our
greenhouse
gas
emission
reduction
targets,
an
update
on
the
climate
change
master
plan
priorities
and
recommended
recommendations
to
advance
these
and
budget
and
staffing
pressures,
as
required.
I
will
now
turn
over
the
presentation
to
Andrea.
F
Thanks
Jen
I'm,
going
to
walk
you
through
an
update
on
the
project
called
energy
evolution.
Energy
evolution
is
ottawa's,
Community,
Energy
transition
strategy.
The
vision
of
that
project
is
for
Ottawa
to
be
a
thriving
city
powered
by
clean
renewable
energy,
and
we
propose
to
do
this
through
three
key
areas.
First,
collectively
we
need
to
reduce
energy
consumption
through
efficiency
and
conservation.
F
Evolution
has
been
completed
over
the
course
of
two
phases
in
phase
one
which
started
in
2016.
A
sounding
board
of
community
technical
experts
and
interested
stakeholders
was
established.
A
series
of
technical
working
groups
were
also
established
in
phase
1.
Through
these
technical
working
groups,
seven
pathways
were
developed
that
charted
a
path
on
how
we
would
increase
our
renewable
energy
generation
as
part
of
getting
towards
councils.
Current
target
of
80
percent
reductions
by
2050
in
December
of
2017
committee
and
council
approved
phase
1
of
energy
evolution,
which
included
33
projects
as
part
of
an
action
plan.
F
F
All
pathways
that
were
completed
in
phase
one
and
two
were
combined
into
an
integrated
energy
and
emissions
model.
This
model
charts
out
the
path
on
how
we
can
achieve
either
councils
current
target
of
80
percent
reductions
by
2050,
or
the
target
of
a
hundred
percent
reductions
to
align
with
the
IPCC
call
to
limit
global
warming
increase
to
1.5
degrees
as
part
of
phase
2.
A
list
of
proposed
projects
was
also
developed
for
energy
evolution.
F
Throughout
energy
evolution
staff
have
worked
with
councilors
sounding
board
members
and
technical
working
groups
that
conclude
both
staff
and
community
technical
experts.
A
climate
change
council
sponsors
group
was
established
through
the
climate
emergency
declared
in
April
of
this
year,
and
staff
have
worked
with
an
interdepartmental
working
group.
Over
the
last
three
years,
there's
been
more
than
30
meetings
with
more
than
180
key
stakeholders
in
Ottawa,
representing
approximately
90
organizations.
F
Through
the
pathways,
we
first
established
a
business
as
planned,
so
in
the
top
line
of
the
graph
before
you
can
see
the
Green
Line
maps
out
the
businesses
planned.
Basically,
this
looks
at
projects
that
council
has
already
approved
and
figured
out
what
our
emissions
would
be
with
the
work
which
is
already
slated
to
happen.
The
businesses
plan
scenario
includes
a
range
of
projects,
including
some
of
our
showcase
projects
like
LRT
stage,
1
and
stage
2.
F
What
you'll
see
from
the
graph
above
is
that
the
line
stays
almost
flat,
despite
the
fact
that
our
population
increases
to
about
1.5
million
up
until
2050.
What
you
can
also
see
from
the
graph
on
the
screen
is
that
there's
a
significant
gap
between
our
current
reductions
of
80%
and
the
proposed
100%
reduction.
F
Energy
of
Ellucian
takes
a
look
at
where
those
proposed
emissions
will
come
from
in
five
key
areas:
electricity,
transportation,
waste
and
renewable
natural
gas,
existing
buildings
and
new
buildings.
This
slide
shows
what
it
would
take
for
us
to
make
reductions
in
the
80%
scenario
you
can
see
from
the
dark
red
or
almost
purple
band.
That
transportation
represents
the
single
largest
sector
in
which
emissions
would
be
would
come
from.
Emission
reductions
would
come
from
when
I
flipped
to
the
next
slide.
F
You'll
see
that
there's
a
change
particularly
for
electricity,
the
difference
between
the
80%
and
the
100%
scenario
that
20%
difference.
Almost
half
of
it
comes
from
reducing
the
carbon
left
in
the
electricity
grid
and
from
accelerating
the
adoption
of
heat
pumps.
So
if
we
switch
to
the
next
slide,
you
can
see
that
the
these
the
proportion
of
electricity
required
to
meet
our
hundred
percent
increases.
Existing
buildings
also
increases,
and
that's
where
we
see
the
accelerated
adoption
of
heat
pumps.
F
As
part
of
the
status
update
for
energy
evolution,
there
is
a
list
of
twenty
proposed
projects
for
staff
to
work
with
community
and
staff
stakeholders
and
develop
over
the
next
several
months
in
each
of
the
proposed
areas.
We've
given
examples
of
projects
which
we
will
move
forward
under
Billings,
we
propose
to
develop
a
residential
and
commercial
accelerator
program
for
retrofits,
as
well
as
a
high
performance
development
standard
in
the
transportation
sector.
F
We
propose
a
personal
and
elect
and
commercial
electric
vehicle
strategy,
100%
zero
mission,
transit
fleets,
as
well
as
transportation
mode
shift
framework,
which
would
be
incorporated
into
the
transportation
master
plan
under
waste
and
renewable
natural
gas.
We
proposed
to
divert
organics
from
landfill
and
increase
renewable
natural
gas
development
in
electricity
will
develop
an
electricity
resource
strategy
and
because
private
action
is
a
critical
area
both
in
the
climate
change
master
plan
and
in
energy
evolution.
We
propose
to
develop
a
climate
change,
education
and
outreach
program,
as
well
as
something
called
fund.
F
We
proposed
to
bring
forward
a
final
report
in
q2
of
2020,
which
will
include
the
final
energy
and
emissions
model.
We
also
have
started
doing
a
detailed
financial
and
affordability
analysis
of
each
of
the
four
for
actions
included
in
the
draft
energy
and
emissions
model
that
financial
and
affordability
analysis
will
include
an
overview
of
the
capital
and
operating
costs,
as
well
as
potential
savings
and
revenue
generation.
F
Finally,
we'll
bring
forward
a
proposed
spending
plan
for
the
2019
hydro,
Ottawa
dividend
surplus
once
the
amount
is
is
known
and
committee
would
have
to
would
have
to
approve
that
once
the
formal
amount
is
known
in
terms
of
next
steps
for
both
the
climate
change
master
plan
and
energy
evolution
throughout
q1
of
2020.
We
will
continue
to
work
with
the
climate
change
sponsors
group,
as
well
as
staff
and
community
partners,
on
the
priority
areas
outlined
in
the
climate
change
master
plan,
as
well
as
the
20
proposed
projects
in
energy
evolution.
F
We
will
also
be
hiring
a
communication
and
outreach
as
a
staff
member
who
will
develop
a
communication
and
engagement
strategy
in
q2
2020.
We
propose
to
bring
forward
the
final
report
on
energy
evolution
as
outlined
in
the
previous
slide
and
as
part
of
the
adaptation
response
in
q2
2020.
We
will
be
bringing
forward
the
local
climate
projections
which
we
have
developed
in
partnership
with
Environment
Canada,
climate
change
and
the
National
Capital
Commission.
By
the
end
of
2020.
F
A
G
Been
a
pleasure
to
continue
to
be
involved
and
continue
to
provide
insights
where
possible.
One
of
the
things
I
want
to
really
point
out
from
the
report,
and
the
analysis
done
is
that
95
percent
of
the
city's
emissions
come
from
non
corporate
sources.
This
has
actually
been
understood
since
2012,
seven
years
and
three
rounds
of
study
later
we
still
don't
have
any
policies
or
major
policies
or
programs
that
influence
nudge
are
encouraged.
G
People
to
change
their
behaviors
I'm
concerned
that
the
next
stage
includes
further
rounds
of
strategy
work
with
very
little
action
and
very
little
budget
to
support
it.
We
need
action.
I
will
choose
today
to
focus
on
buildings,
which
is
likely
one
of
the
toughest
challenges
and
most
impactful,
as
we
saw
from
the
earlier
graph
of
how
to
get
to
80%
reductions,
I'm
leading
an
innovative
energy
group
at
jail.
Richard's
long-established
firm
here
in
Ottawa
Mike
team
brings
slow
energy
and
low-carbon
solutions
to
buildings,
wastewater
treatment,
mining
and
industrial
sectors.
G
We
are
currently
designing
a
new
corporate
office
that
includes
many
low
or
zero
carbon
under
energy
and
carbon
targets
within
it.
We
understand
the
investment
returns
of
these
design
elements,
however,
currently
there's
a
gap
of
knowledge
and
or
motivation
and
many
clients
for
changing
business
as
usual
and
how
they
developed
the
city
and
how
they
built
their
buildings.
I
encourage
the
city
to
show
leadership
and
strength
and
a
spine
to
create
an
environment
where
we
build
a
better
city.
Building
codes
and
building
permits
are
a
major
policy
driver
that
guide
this
sector.
G
As
I
said,
buildings
are
one
of
the
major
components
of
GHG
emissions
and
municipalities
do
play
a
significant
influence
in
what
is
built.
They
have
the
jurisdiction
to
adapt,
building
permits
and
development
processes
to
impact
the
climate.
The
required
climate
change
mitigation
needs
of
the
city.
There
are
several
policies,
such
as
mandatory
energy
and
GHG
analysis
done
by
the
proponents,
submitting
a
building
permit
preferential
development
processes
for
low
energy
or
low
carbon
buildings,
such
as
faster
turnaround
times.
G
Those
are
both
low
cost
things
that
can
quickly
influence
a
major
component
of
the
sector.
I
note
that
the
report
suggests
the
adoption
of
a
high
performance
building
standard
and
I'm
strongly
in
favor
of
that
taking
being
taken
into
action.
As
soon
as
possible,
additionally,
the
city
needs
to
lead
right
from
the
very
top
the
public
conversation
and
providing
a
strong
voice
that
advocates
for
the
advantages
of
a
building,
a
low-carbon
City.
G
Why
should
the
city
show
leadership
on
this
because
of
the
clean
energy
economy?
The
clean
energy
economy
creates
jobs,
and
these
jobs
are
predominantly
local.
Think
of
all
the
retrofit
work
that
could
be
undertaken
using
local
Ottawa
citizens.
More
specifically
for
some
numbers,
a
study
from
eco
Canada
shows
these
are
national
numbers
that
436
thousand
workers
are
directly
employed
in
energy
and
fish'n
see
and
by
implementing
the
pan-canadian.
A
framework
kanika
Canada
can
create
an
additional
hundred
eighteen
thousand
annual
jobs
annual
jobs.
G
G
Consultants
constructors
will
gain
advantages
in
the
cities
where
they
are
located
and
then
they'll
be
able
to
work
outwards.
We
need
an
opportunity
here
with
in
Ottawa
right
now.
Some
of
the
cities
that
are
further
ahead
of
Ottawa
include
Edmonton
Peel,
Halton,
Hills,
Hamilton,
Mississauga,
Toronto
Vancouver,
and
the
list
goes
on.
G
The
costs
of
acting
are
lower
than
the
costs
of
No
and
having
to
react,
I'd
like
to
therefore
greatly
encourage
the
high
performance
building
standards
and
other
actions
with
regards
to
building
and
development
permits,
make
the
things
that
are
in
the
Official
Plan,
where
we're
talking
about
a
climate
lens,
make
sure
that
that
does
not
stick
at
the
high
level,
but
is
able
to
move
down
into
actual
actionable
items
by
the
people
that
are
doing
the
day-to-day
work.
I
see
many
cases
where
that
is
not
yet
happening
in
several
organizations
here
in
Ottawa.
A
D
You
very
much
chair
thanks
for
your
presentation.
I
just
have
one
question
because
I
agree
with
you:
we
need
to
be
taking
action
on
that,
but-
and
you
seem
to
have
this
information
yeah
what?
What?
What
concrete
suggestions
can
you
give
to
staff
or
counselors
on
the
city,
incenting
private
buildings,
to
make
this
transition
because
we
have
our
own
control
over
the
organization's
buildings,
but
the
incenting
of
private
buildings?
Do
this
obviously
there's
a
savings
associated
but
I'd
like
to
see
if
you
can
write
to
us,
follow
up?
G
D
A
H
Head
good
morning,
thank
you
for
having
me
here.
As
mentioned
I'm
from
envira
Center.
We
are
a
non-profit
environmental
organization
located
here
in
town.
Our
work
encourages
local
residents,
businesses
and
communities
to
take
action
on
climate
in
practical
and
tangible
ways.
We
are
a
long-term
partner
of
the
City
of
Ottawa
for
us,
the
city's
role
in
climate
action,
its
minimum
role,
is
to
take
the
lead,
adopt
and
support
a
path
and
leverage
its
public
role
in
the
community
to
catalyze
effective
collective
climate
action.
H
H
If
we're
going
to
keep
our
world
healthy
and
stable,
if
we're
going
to
keep
our
city
resilient
and
strong
in
the
face
of
the
changes
that
we
already
know
are
coming,
work
at
this
scale
needs
to
be
a
coordinated
effort
and
there
are
actors
all
over
the
city
ready
to
take
action
and
move
our
city
and
country
in
the
right
direction.
This
is
a
big
plan
for
sure,
but
the
city
doesn't
have
to
do
all
the
work.
This
plan
will
only
be
accomplished
with
partners.
H
The
city's
role
is
to
take
action
where
it
has
the
power
to
do
so,
and
maybe,
most
importantly,
to
lead
partners
will
rise
to
the
occasion
and
meet
you.
This
draft
plan
is
already
an
example
of
what
the
city
can
do
to
push
the
needle
on
climate
action,
bring
partners
together
and
begin
to
build
a
resilient
city.
There's
still
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done,
obviously,
and
plans
to
be
fleshed
out,
but
we
have
the
beginning
here
of
a
concrete
plan
of
action
specific
to
our
city,
and
that
is
incredibly
important.
H
The
beauty
of
planned
climate
action
is
that
it
is
deeply
practical.
It
responds
to
the
fundamental
requirements
of
our
world,
whether
ecosystems,
materials
food
and
supports
a
system
that
works
not
just
in
the
enormous
macro
scale,
but
right
here
in
Ottawa
right
in
your
own
house.
Meeting
these
targets
here
in
Ottawa
and
following
this
path
outlined
will
be
hard.
It
will
not
be
impossible,
but
definitely
hard
work
and
yes,
there
is
a
chance
that
we
will
fail
to
meet
these
targets,
but
failure
to
strive
for
these
targets
would
be
failure
of
much
larger
proportions.
H
H
We
here
in
Ottawa
do
not
have
to
save
the
world
all
by
ourselves,
but
in
Ottawa
same
as
every
other
part
of
the
world,
we
have
a
part
to
play
and
we
have
to
do
everything
we
can.
There
is
no
part
of
the
world
small
enough
or
insignificant
enough
not
to
matter
in
this
particular
project,
and
yes,
here
in
Ottawa,
we
do
matter-
and
we
have
here
the
beginnings
of
a
plan
for
how
to
mobilize
and
take
action
outlined
in
practical
steps.
H
I
encourage
the
committee
and
ultimately,
the
council
to
take
on
this
project
to
support
the
work
of
the
dedicated
staff
and
community
partners
who
have
contributed
to
this
plan
over
several
years
and
recognize
that,
together
with
partners
and
residents
across
the
city,
this
is
the
work
of
the
next
three
decades.
We
do
not
have
time
to
prevaricate
around
plans
either
in
terms
of
the
health
of
our
world
or
the
security
of
our
city.
H
This
action,
so
I
encourage
and
invite
you
to
do
this,
both
in
taking
on
this
and
in
ensuring
that
a
climate
lens
is
applied
to
all
departments
and
work
across
the
city,
as
the
official
plan
is
developed,
taking
on
climate
action
and
resilience
is
a
winning
hand
for
the
city
look
into
it,
and
that
is
what
you
will
find
and
there
are
no
winners
in
avoiding
it.
Thank
you.
H
A
Very
much
appreciates
your
presentation,
especially
the
the
focus
on
partnership.
I
mean
this
could
easily
be
called
the
climate
climate
change
partnership
plan
because
it
it
will.
It
is
drafted
with
the
notion
that
we
can't
do
this
alone
and
say
that
we
need
to
do
it
with
the
community
partners
and
we
need
to
do
it
with
other
levels
of
governments
to
help
us
achieve
the
goals
that
we've
set
forward
here
today.
Any
questions
for
Miss
coward,
seeing
none.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
recitation.
I
I
So
my
name
is
Rob
Barnes
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
ecology,
Ottawa
pleasure,
to
see
you
all
this
morning.
I
just
wanted
to
start
by
laying
the
groundwork
and-
and
many
of
us
know
this
already,
but
we've
come
a
long
way.
I
mean
a
few
years
ago.
Just
a
few
years
ago,
it
was
hard
to
get
targets
out
of
the
city
at
all,
let
alone
100
percent
target
by
2050.
I
So
you
know
I
want
to
congratulate
the
committee
and
council
on
the
progress
we've
made
and
obviously,
if
you
think
about
the
context
right,
there's
a
lot.
That's
been
going
on
air
quality
and
climate
change
management
plan
came
up
five
years
ago
and
since
that
time
we've
moved
faster
and
faster
and
further,
but
so
is
the
science,
and
so
is
the
urgency
of
the
problem,
and
so
really
this
today
is
really
the
tangible
outcome
of
the
climate
immersion
see
declaration
that
was
passed
back
in
the
spring.
I
So
where
is
the
the
political
will
to
move
us
forward
and
I
know?
We've
been
waiting
on
plans
right?
That's
that's!
The
the
history
of
the
city
is
building
a
plan
and
then
waiting
on
the
plan,
and
now
we
need
to
implement
the
plan.
So
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
those
those
key
ideas
in
in
some
of
the
plans
that
are
percolating
at
the
city,
level
and
I
think,
as
was
mentioned
by
by
Andrea
and
Jan
in
their
presentations.
I
I
So
we
wanted
to
start
off
by
saying
that
you
know
the
the
analysis
we
think
in
the
climate
change
master
plan
is
excellent.
Thorough
the
100
percent
target
is
essential
to
meeting
the
IPCC
target,
as
we
know
the
annual
reporting,
which
is
a
new
new
development.
This
is
very
welcome
right.
This
helps
us
helps
with
accountability
at
the
city.
It's
not
just
every
four
or
five
years,
not
just
after
an
election.
I
So
we
get
to
we
get
to
you,
know
CDC,
regular
reporting
and,
of
course,
there's
been
a
demonstrated
commitment
to
community
outreach
and
consultation
and
I.
Think
Sharon
spoke
to
that
nicely
about
the
importance
of
that
engagement.
Things
that
were
a
little
bit
dismayed
about
is
the
delays
right.
Every
time
we
push
forward,
we
see
a
new
plan
and
and
and
it
gets
pushed
further
into
the
future
and
now
energy
evolution
phase.
Two
a
really
important
document
is
now
q2
2020.
I
This
will
lay
out
the
plan,
but
we
know
that
there
are
a
lot
of
good
ideas
that
we
can
start
with
before.
Even
seeing
the
final,
the
final
draft,
there
are
directions
that
council
and
the
committee
can
move
on
and,
of
course,
displayed
by
the
lack
of
meaningful
progress
on
commune.
The
emissions
we
need
to
move
fast
in
terms
of
the
challenges
to
I
would
just
point
out
that,
if
we're
looking
at
stage
1
on
energy
evolution,
there
are
a
number
of
projects
that
are
incomplete.
So
obviously
the
city
still
needs
to
move
forward.
I
Their
six
complete
out
of
33
25
incomplete
at
this
stage,
so
we'll
need
to
keep
an
eye
on
those
and
keep
pushing
those
forward.
The
gist
of
it
is
that
the
time
for
business
as
usual
is
over.
You've
heard
us
say
this
before
I
know
it
sounds
like
a
broken
record,
but
really
the
next
10
years
will
be
if
we're
going
to
take
the
seriously
the
most
disruptive
and
transformative
in
the
history
of
the
City
of
Ottawa,
and
that
we
can
do
this
while
building
a
more
resilient,
livable
and
dynamic
city.
I
There's
still
that
opportunity
that
very
slight
window
time,
where
that's
possible.
So
what
do
we
need
to
do?
We
need
to
plan
a
better
city,
build
a
smarter
City.
We
need
to
move
beyond
the
car.
This
is
this
is
a
the
challenge
for
any
North
American
city
and
obviously
Ottawa
is
no
exception.
We
need
to
change
how
we
budget
and
we
need
to
find
and
use
our
voice
as
a
city.
The
mayor
and
the
city
need
to
stand
up.
I
We
understand
that
the
community
emissions
are
much
larger
than
the
corporate
side
and
the
city
doesn't
have
direct
control
over
them.
The
city
needs
to
use
its
bully.
Pulpit
needs
to
get
out
needs
to
encourage
other
jurisdictions
to
step
up
to
the
plate.
The
province
and
the
federal
government
and
I
know
that
some
of
that
work
is
already
done,
but
but
we
need
to
do
that
better.
I
In
terms
of
that,
we
have
listed,
I,
know
I'm
running
low
on
time,
but
one
of
the
critical
decisions
that
this
that
council
can
make
is
holding
the
line
on
urban
boundary
expansion.
It's
absolutely
critical
to
some
of
the
smart
planning
ideas
that
we'll
see
in
the
Official
Plan.
That's
a
March
vote,
so
we
we
encourage
you
to
hold
the
line
and
urban
boundary
expansion.
Other
areas
have
already
been
mentioned,
but
some
of
the
the
promising
ones
around
moving
beyond
the
car
are
really
exciting.
Things
like
car,
free
zones,
congestion,
pricing,
price
increases
for
parking.
I
These
are
going
to
be
politically
difficult,
but
you
know
the
science
is
clear
and
we
need
to.
We
need
to
move
in
that
direction.
We
also
need
to
change
how
we
budget.
We
can
no
longer
see
budgets
like
the
2021,
where
sixty
six
point,
two
million
dollars
is
allocated
for
Road
growth
projects,
while
a
measly
$70,000
is
invested
in
energy
evolution.
So
obviously
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
with
my
remaining
seconds,
I'll
say
by
the
climate
change
master
plan.
We
think
this
is
great.
I
I
C
You
rob
for
coming
in
appreciate
your
presentation
and
that
of
your
organization
over
the
many
many
years
and
I
share
your
sense
of
finally
we're
here.
You
talked
about
some
I
call.
It
disincentives
to
driving
some
of
the
additional
levees
or
fees
that
can
be
charged.
I
pay
about
six
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
drive
my
car,
so
an
extra
fifty
dollars
probably
won't
change
the
average
car
owner
to
switch
I
think
the
focus
really
needs
to
be
on
transit
and
making
transit
much
more
easy
to
use
much
more
frequent.
I
You
can
address
the
fact
that
that
we
have
congestion
and
that
that
congestion
impedes
the
movement
of
buses,
and
so
so
a
really
quick,
simple
and
low
budget
fix
is,
is
dedicating
more
lanes
to
transit
only
and
all
of
a
sudden,
your
transit
system
becomes
vastly
more
efficient
and
effective.
Obviously,
funding
is
up
as
a
perennial
challenge.
We
think
LRT
is
a
great
investment
right.
The
next
question
around
that
is,
how
do
we
connect
people
to
light
rail,
especially
at
these
hubs
that
are
being
built
in
places
like
Lincoln
Fields?
I
A
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
I
will
say
that
you
be
focused
on
one
thing.
You
mentioned
that
we've
been
providing.
We
provided
that
report
right
after
the
election.
We
do
that
on
purpose,
because
we
don't
want
to
lose
elections
I
see.
So
what
we
do
is
we
make
sure
that
we
hide
all
that
stuff,
especially
bad
news.
We
want
to
hide
bad
news,
then
we
want
to
wait
till
we
get
elected,
and
then
we
hit
you
with
the
bad
news,
knowing
that
four
years
from
now
you're
gonna
forget
that
bad
news,
wow.
A
Just
pulling
I'm
just
pulling
the
curtain
I
want
you
to
understand
how
this
works.
So
thank
you
so
much
so.
Our
next
speaker
is
Raymond.
Euler
e,
with
the
electric
vehicle
Council
of
Canada,
followed
by
dick
I'm
gonna,
say
Baker,
but
it
could
also
be
backer.
I
I've
heard
it
both
ways.
So
Raymond
we
have
a
presentation,
I
think
up
on
the
screen.
Soon,
almost
Matt's,
almost
there
just
waiting
he's
almost
he's
like
close
to
it,
he's
looking
for
it.
He's
got
put
on
the
screen.
A
J
Good
morning,
everybody,
thank
you
very
much.
My
name
is
Raymond
Laurie
I'm
from
the
electric
vehicle
council
of
Ottawa,
and
what
I
wanted
to
start
by
doing
is
congratulating
city
staff
for
the
excellent
work
they've
done
Anna
and
her
team
have
done
excellent
work
with
energy
evolution
in
particular
and
they're.
Looking
at
real
solutions
through
the
real
sources
of
carbon
in
the
city,
so
in
terms
of
carbon
budget,
I'm
really
happy
to
see
that
proposal.
J
I
think
that
if
managers
are
compensated
on
carbon
budgets
as
well
as
they
are
and
measured
on
carbon
budgets
as
well
as
they
are
on
financial
budgets,
that
will
incent
them
to
do
what
they
can
to
reduce
the
amount
of
carbon.
That's
emitted.
Reducing
corporate
missions
to
zero
by
2040
will
require
electrifying
this
the
city
fleet,
starting
now
and
same
with
community
emissions
at
zero
in
2050.
We're
going
to
have
to
start
transitioning
to
electric
very
very
soon.
J
One
thing
I'd
like
to
see
is
an
improvement
in
the
plan
is
that
there
isn't
any
consideration
of
concrete
and
the
impact
of
concrete
on
emissions.
As
you
probably
know,
forty
five
percent
of
the
energy
in
a
building
over
its
lifecycle
is
actually
part,
is
actually
in
the
construction,
materials
and
construction
phase
of
the
building,
so
that
that's
something
to
consider
and
you
could
see
their
mass
timber
building
in
the
in
the
back
there
that
that's
sequester's
carbon
instead
of
emitting
carbon
for
in
the
building.
It's
re
emitting
carbon
for
the
concrete
production.
J
So
here
this
is
a
slide
that
shows
you
that
electric
power
trains
are
becoming
cheaper
and
cheaper
and
we
are
expecting
price
parity
within
a
few
years,
we're
already
seeing
that
with
some
various
EVs
on
the
market.
This
here
is
a
technology
adoption
curve
slide
that
shows
a
technology
adoption
from
many
of
the
different
technologies
over
the
last
century
or
so,
and
you
can
see
that
there's
an
what
was
referred
to
as
the
s-curve
for
adoption.
Okay,
so
what
happens?
Typically?
J
Is
you
have,
as
you
can
see
here,
with
current
numbers
in
Canada
up
to
2018,
you
have
a
slow
uptake
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
it
goes
exponential.
So
what
we've
done
is
we've
done
some
projections
and
we're
showing
that,
assuming
that
there
are
there's
government
support
for
this
at
all
levels
of
government,
we
would
be
able
to
get
200%
new
electric
cars
or
new
cars
being
v's
by
2030
or
2030
one
okay.
So
it's
really
a
good
news
story.
J
We
are
expecting
that,
even
if
there
weren't
but
there,
if
there
was
no
government
in
impediments
to
regulatory
impediments,
we
could
probably
get
to
2030
without
problems.
But
we
were
concerned
that
we
need
to
have
government
continue
to
provide
things
like
incentives,
and
actually
the
city
of
La
Valle
is
providing
an
incentive
that
that's
added
to
the
varible
and
Quebec
rebates.
The
federal
rebate
now
is
that
$5,000
for
new
vehicles
they
announced
a
rebate
for
used
vehicles,
there's
other
things.
J
We
could
do
other
measures
like
allowing
electric
cars
to
use
high
occupancy
lanes
on
the
champagne
bridge
and
the
port
as
bridge
and
perhaps
free
parking
or
other
measures
like
we're,
seeing
other
jurisdictions
such
as
Norway
doing.
We
also
need
a
Zev
mandate,
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed
at
the
federal
level,
because
we
as
a
we
have
supply
issues,
people
right
now
we're
trying
to
buy
new
electric
cars
or
having
trouble
finding
them
now.
J
Here's
an
example
of
an
inexpensive
EVs,
so
this
I
found
this
this
morning
on
auto
trader
three
examples
of
low
price
TVs
and
because
the
the
operational
cost
of
an
Eevee
is
much
lower
than
a
than
a
gas
car.
This
is
really
a
good
solution
for
people
on
a
budget.
Now
the
problem
is
our
barriers
to
Eevee
adoptions,
and
if
you
look
at
the
second
from
the
bottom
community
housing
there
that's
one
of
them,
so
a
lot
of
our
poorer
people
in
the
community
live
in
community
housing
and
they
don't
have
access
to
charging.
J
So
we
need
to
invest
in
that.
If
you
look
at
the
map,
it
shows
that
Ottawa
has
very
few,
and
if
this
pointer
works
here,
no
so
very
few
chargers,
that's
in
the
middle
there
compared
to
Montreal
on
the
right-hand
side
and
Toronto
on
the
left-hand
side
back
to
buses.
I've
talked
to
buses
before
so
mr.
J
man
Kony
keeps
talking
about
looking
at
compressed
natural
gas,
but
you'll
see
in
this
slide
that
compressed
natural
gas
emits
lots
of
greenhouse
gases,
and
it
will
not
provide
us
a
solution
that
will
bring
us
to
the
objectives
we
have.
Hydrogen
is
a
similar
solution.
Very
expensive,
also
results
in
emissions,
so
electric
buses
are
really
the
only
viable
option
at
TTC
Singers
they're
saving,
56,000
per
bus
on
diesel
costs
alone
per
bus
per
year.
Okay.
J
Okay,
so
there's
other
solutions,
so
other
city
vehicles
can
so
there's
fire
trucks
now
that
are
appearing
garbage
trucks,
utility
trucks.
All
of
that,
that's
a
that's
an
excavator,
that's
actually
battery
electric.
That
would
be
very
quiet
for
construction
dirt,
downtown
near
and
near
other
people.
Right
money
drives
the
world
right
and
we
are
in
a
climate
emergency.
If
the
city
is
to
do
something,
we
need
to
invest
now,
not
in
the
future.
A
C
J
The
other
issue
is
that,
if
we're
using
short
range
buses,
those
buses
need
to
be
charged
during
a
day,
so
the
Nova
bus
in
particular,
that's
short
range-
has
got
a
range
of
37
kilometers
only,
which
means
it
needs
to
be
charged
when
buses
are
used,
which
is
typically
during
the
peak
times
in
the
morning
and
peak
times
in
the
afternoon.
Well,
in
Ontario,
the
electricity
that's
used
to
to
to
meet
that
peak
is
generated
through
natural
gas.
J
So,
if
we
use
short
range
buses,
we're
going
to
increase
well
we're
going
to
increase
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
lose
some
of
the
benefit
of
of
electrifying
the
fleet
by
charging
during
the
day,
so
be
much
better.
If
we
were
charging
at
night,
which
is
more
appropriate
for
using
long-range
electric
buses,
so
at
night,
Ontario
actually
has
a
surplus
of
electricity
that
would
be
available
to
to
charge
those
buses.
Sure.
C
J
They're
charged
with
typically
overhead
catenary,
which
is
the
the
other
reason
we
don't
like
that
illusion-
is
that
it's
very
expensive.
So
the
the
insulation
we're
talking
a
million
dollars
per
charger,
and
these
Chargers
have
to
be
located
throughout
the
city
where
their
routes
are
because
37
kilometres
is
not
enough
to
get
back
to
the
bus
depot
and
then
do
the
run
right.
So
you
have
to
put
them
where
you
think
you
may
need
them
a
long
term.
So
it's
a
it's
a
difficult
planning
exercise
and,
and
it
it
results
in
a
bus
system.
J
D
Thanks
very
much
chair
thanks
very
much
for
you
for
coming
in
Mike.
My
questions
follow
councillor
Blaise
hazard
ley
asked
a
question
at
Council
the
other
day
around
what
kind
of
buses
were
buying
for
the
electric
bus
pilot
and
it
wasn't
clear
from
OC
transpose
answer
that
they
were
gonna,
be
the
non
catenary
that
the
one,
the
ones
that
require
charging
in
the
evening,
not
continuous
charges
which
I
understand
is
not
something
we
really
want
to
go
that
road.
D
We
want
to
go
down,
but
it's
not
clear
to
me
where
we'll
see
transpose
going
I
just
can
you
confirm
how
the
availability
of
long
rains
and
short
range
buses
that
don't
use
the
catenary
in
Canada
I
know?
There's
several
companies
that
do
this
now
you
just
confirm
these
are
available.
These
are
being
adopted
in
multiple
cities
across
the
country
in
North
America.
So.
J
If
you
look
worldwide
at
the
bus
market,
about
half
of
the
new
buses
today
are
electric
and
the
vast
majority
somewhere
near
98
percent
of
those
are
using
our
long
range
buses
right
in
terms
of
availability.
I
know
that
there
was
some
question
about
the
standardization
of
plugs
that
the
or
charging
methods
at
the
the
city
meeting
the
industry
for
for
slower
charging
if
you're
compared
that
way,
so
so
charging
inside
of
bus
barns.
The
industry
is
essentially
supporting
this
ESS
combo
standard,
which
is
a
standard
that's
used
for
regular
passenger
v's.
J
So
there
is
a
essentia
standardization
in
that
space.
Now
the
the
overhead
catenary
is
not
necessarily
it's
not
necessarily
that
it
wouldn't
be
a
good
solution
in
the
garage.
That's
what
actually
Edmonton
is
using.
So
they
plan
on
charging
in
the
garage
using
overhead,
cam
Neri
for
whatever,
whatever
reasons,
but
that's
the
exception.
Most
of
the
the
transit
operators
are
using
charging
stations
in
the
bus,
barns
that
use
a
CSS
combo,
which
is
a
much
more
common
standard.
Okay,.
D
And
the
reason
this
is
so
important
for
this
report
today
is
that
the
we're
trying
to
reduce
corporate
emissions
or
organization
emissions
by
100
percent
by
2040
and
a
huge
huge
portion
of
that
for
us
is
our
fleet
and
the
reduction
of
diesel,
and
so
that
this
is
a
must
and
we're
I
mean
to
me.
The
city
is
not
moving
fast
enough
on
this.
The
there's
resistance
from
OC
Transpo
when
there
shouldn't
be.
We
should
be
moving
much
quicker
on
this
type
of
initiative,
so
you
are
there.
D
Are
there
companies
in
Canada
or
North
America
that
that
you'd
recommend
or
that
you
say,
look
at
look
at
these
folks?
These
are
these:
are
people
producing
these
types
of
buses?
You
should
be
looking
at
them
for
for
your
pilots
I'm
concerned.
We're
who
were
gonna
purchase
this
from
and
whether
or
not
it's
gonna
actually
be
in
line
with
what
you're
talking
about
well.
J
So
so
we're
a
non-profit
and
we're
doing
this
pro
bono
right.
So
we
have
no
ties
to
anybody
in
the
industry,
so
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
recommend
a
particular
manufacturer,
but
there
are
three
in
particular
in
North
America
that
are
doing
work
with
long-range
buses.
Nova
now
has
introduced
a
long
range
bus,
New
Flyer
has
long
range
buses,
including
articulated
long
range
buses
and
Proterra,
is
the
other
big
player
in
the
field.
They're
they're
more
of
a
technology
leader
in
that
space,
yeah.
C
You
mr.
chair
and
thank
you
for
your
presentation.
Certainly,
the
corporation
has
a
responsibility
to
shift
its
fleet
to
electric
vehicle
or
hybrid
vehicles,
including
bicycles
for
bylaw
police,
but
we're
a
small
drop
in
the
overall
bucket
in
the
city
of
auto,
and
really
that
the
challenge
will
be
to
ensure
that
private
vehicle
owners
and
drivers
have
vehicles
that
are
not
depending
on
fossil
fuels.
We
saw
with
the
rebate,
elimination,
Ontario,
there's
a
headline
two
days
ago
that
vehicle
vehicle
sales
have
plummeted
because
that
rebate
incentive
is
gone.
C
What
can
the
City
of
Ottawa
do
while
working
with
our
federal
and
provincial
counterparts
to
move
the
yardsticks
forward?
It
needs
to
be
legislation.
I
mean
we're
still
building
cars
in
this
country
that
are
dependent
on
fossil
fuels.
There
are
no
timelines
to
convert
that
incentives
for
a
car,
there's
the
infrastructure
that
cities
can
build
so
that
drivers
can
charge,
but
okay,
I,
don't
even
know
along
the
401.
Now,
where
I
can
charge
a
electric
vehicle,
what
can
we
do
with
the
other
levels
of
government?
Well,.
J
With
the
other
levels
of
government
there's
the
building
code
that
had
a
requirement
until
it
was
eliminated
last
year
or
this
year
of
leaf
pre
wire
charging
or
stalls
parking
stalls
to
have
some
a
charging
station
there.
When
you
build
a
new
building,
it's
much
cheaper
to
provide
the
pre
wiring,
then
naturally,
actually
having
to
retrofit
it.
After
so
that's
something
that
that
would
be
desirable,
so
the
provincial
government
actually
passed
bill
123
last
week
you
may
have
heard
of
that.
J
It's
a
bill
that
imposes
a
fine
of
125
dollars
for
people
who
are
at
you
know,
evie
parking
spot
and
not
plugged
to
the
charger.
That's
a
good
step
in
the
right
direction.
The
other
thing
that
we
would
like
to
see
is
zero
emission
mandate.
That
would
that
would
do
in
Quebec
has
has
a
light
version
of
this.
If
we
could
put
it
that
way
and
BC
Hall
also
has
it,
but
we
need
a
mandate
at
the
national
level
to
address
the
supply
issue.
J
So
right
now,
if
you're
trying
to
buy
an
electric
vehicle,
most
vehicles,
there's
a
waiting
list
of
six
to
twelve
months
to
be
able
to
get
them
right
and
most
people
who
buy
electric
VR
by
vehicles.
What
they
do
is
they
they
want
to
be
able
to
take,
take
ownership
of
the
vehicle
soon
after
they
buy
it.
A
B
Thank
you
yes,
I'm
representing
two
organizations:
Co
energy
Ontario
and
the
Ottawa
renewable
energy
cooperatives
between
these
two
organizations.
We
have
1,000
members
across
Eastern,
Ontario
and
a
few
in
western
Quebec,
but
we're
basically
in
eastern
ontario
organ
organizations
we
own
and
operate
19
operating
electricity
generation
facilities
on
barns,
schools,
factories
and
commercial
operations
and
housing,
co-ops
and
and
one
museum.
The
Museum
of
Science
and
Technology
is
now
running
a
system
that
we
own.
B
We
also
have
for
energy
retrofits
in
operation
now,
and
we've
raised
nine
million
dollars
from
our
members
and
that
is
financed
all
of
our
projects.
We
have
no
outside
debt.
We
can
do
much
more.
We
want
to
do
more.
There
are
fewer
opportunities
than
there
is
interest
from
our
members
to
invest
in
these
Iraq
Co
energy
and
our
members
support
supporters
and
suppliers.
All
ask
that
you
quickly
approve
the
submission.
That's
before
you
and
give
you
a
full
financial
and
political
support
to
make
the
transition
active.
B
Energy
cooperatives
can
leverage
untapped
community
investment.
There's
money
sitting
in
bank
accounts,
that's
not
being
put
to
work.
The
returns
in
the
stock
market
and
debt
instruments
are
very
low
these
days,
so
there's
people
our
age
over
50
that
are
sitting
on
money.
That's
not
moving,
and
we
can.
We
can
enact
that
money
to
be
productive.
B
The
20
energy
evolution
projects
will
need
community
participation,
community
partners,
energy
cooperatives,
like
ou,
rec,
&,
Co
energy,
can
help
with
the
implementation
of
those
projects
and
we're
ready
to
help
on
those
right
now
the
city
can
lead
by
example.
You
can
take
action
with
your
facilities
and
be
an
example
by
putting
in
those
energy
facilities.
Do
the
retrofits
on
your
arenas
and
your
facilities
enable
evey
generation
or
connectivity
and
electricity
generation
for
Evy
on
your
sports
facilities.
All
your
facilities
should
be
enabled.
B
Now
you
can
encourage
community
action
by
highlighting
what
is
good,
incurring
that
action,
and
these
fronts
will
reduce
utility
costs,
enhance
property
value,
and
you
need
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
action.
You
should
also
discourage
and
penalize
inaction
by
pointing
out
the
value
destruction
of
wasteful
inaction
in
this
site
and
make
it
most
of
importantly,
at
all,
a
non
partisan
issue
through
community
focused.
B
You
should
be
implementing
this
plan
through
a
paradigm
of
positive
community
engagement,
positive
citizen
engagement,
identify
who
your
supporters
are
and
help
them
be.
Your
advocate
in
the
projects
there'll
be
lots
of
people
arguing
about
the
high
cost
of
what
you're
going
to
try
to
do,
but
there
are
savings
and
there
are
benefits
that
will
work
down
to
the
community
into
the
individuals
in
Ottawa.
The
community
based
organizations
should
be
given
a
role
in
the
delivery
and
help
them
unleash
your
supporters
to
do,
support
and
drive
this
forward.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you
I'm
just
standing
here,
because
my
friends
boring
my
seat,
but
it's
good
for
the
good
for
the
back
to
stretch
it
every
once
in
a
while.
So
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
hear
I'm,
not
sure,
which
is
why
it
was
you.
You
talked
about
penalizing
I.
Think
what
you
call
the
wasteful
inaction
was
the
phrase
that
you
use
yeah.
Can
you
explain
what
you
mean
by
that?
L
B
By
not
by
not
making
buildings
more
efficient
and
more
livable
we're
making
we're
not
acting
and
those
buildings
will
reduce
in
value.
They
will
become
less
interesting
to
other
buyers
in
action
is
wasteful.
It's
it's
perpetuating
the
the
spending
habits,
leaky
buildings
leaking
windows,
leaky
building
envelopes
are
just
pouring
money
out
the
window,
so
there's
a
cost
to
that
and
that's
not
being
highlighted
as
a
value.
Destruction.
B
Problem,
if
someone
wants
to
build
a
building,
that's
not
lead.
They
should
be
at
the
back
of
the
line
if
they're
building
a
new
building,
that's
LEED
or
passive
house,
it
goes
to
the
front
of
the
line
as
far
as
approvals
process.
That
is
immediate
return
to
the
investor
to
the
Builder
developers,
because
they're
there
they're
jumping
the
queue,
I,
don't
say,
jumping
the
queue,
but
the
the
banks
and
the
finance
ears
will
be
very
happy
about
knowing
that,
if
they
do
lead
projects,
the
whole
process
will
happen
faster.
So
that's
positive
action
in
action.
B
Yesterday,
I
walked
by
three
cars
that
were
idling
the
city
past
idling
by
law
years
ago,
but
I
have
heard
nothing
about
it.
Has
there
been
any
reports
on
how
many
people
are
being
fined
for
idling
just
go
down
to
the
school,
so
you
can
make
lots
of
money
finding
people
fried
lling.
So
so
that's
a
bylaw.
That's
on
the
city
books
now
I've
never
heard
anything
about
it.
So.
L
B
A
M
Food
Thank
You
chair,
thank
you
mr.
Becker.
It's
nice
to
see
you
again
just
following
up
on
councillor
egg
lies
question,
and-
and
we
heard
from
someone
before
that,
while
the
new
builds,
we
want
to
make
them
as
efficient,
state-of-the-art
efficient.
A
lot
of
the
issues
are
with
our
current
builds
and
and
and
just
following
up
on
councilor
egg
lie.
How
do
we
incentivize.
M
B
Done
several
renovations
in
my
house
and
last
30
years,
you
control
the
taxes
on
the
buildings.
If
they're
at
a
certain
state,
a
certain
level
of
efficiency
than
the
taxes
at
a
higher
or
a
lower
rate,
you
allow
buildings
to
be
sold
I
think
in
Britain.
If
any
building
has
asbestos
in
it,
it
can't
be
sold.
So
the
owner
has
to
move
the
asbestos
before
selling
it.
Maybe
you
could
look
at
bylaws
that
regulate
the
sale
of
houses
if
they're
not
at
a
certain
standard?
B
B
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Just
before
we
get
to
this
card
stock,
you
can
come
up
to
the
front
if
you
like,
I,
just
want
to
say
that
to
any
city
staff
in
the
room
who
happened
to
be
sitting,
we
have
the
caucus
room
in
behind
this.
This
room
open
with
the
audio,
because
we
do
have
some
residents
still
standing.
So
if
you,
if
you
felt
so
obliged
I,
can't
leave
my
chair
and
go
back
there,
but
you
guys
possibly
could
so
yeah
there's
just
the
room
in
behind
it.
N
Thanks
very
much
mr.
chair
good
morning
councillors,
it's
very
nice
to
be
here.
I
must
say
that
I
think
we
have
a
very
complex
package
of
documentation
in
front
of
us
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
cafes,
the
community
associations
for
environmental
sustainability.
This
is
a
forum
for
representatives
of
community
and
residents
associations
to
meet
exchange
and
engage
with
the
City
of
Ottawa
on
environmental
issues.
The
questions
that
I'm
looking
at
in
my
short
presentation
is
to
see
whether
we
are
on
track.
N
We
have
carefully
reviewed
the
documents,
and
we
are
first
of
all
delighted
that
we
have
now
a
sustained
forward
commitment
for
annual
reporting
I
think
that
both
for
you,
counselors,
as
well
as
for
us
in
the
public
having
an
evidence-based
and
having
monitoring
on
actual
emissions,
is
absolutely
critical,
so
I.
Thank
you
for
that.
N
Also,
the
renewal
of
the
community
and
corporate
targets
in
line
with
the
hundred
percent
reduction
in
emissions
by
2050
and
the
setting
of
intermediate
targets
also
is
something
that
we
welcome
very
much.
The
delivery
of
the
draft
energy
and
emissions
model
and
energy
evolution
projects
will
be
a
high-level
roadmap
for
us
to
show
us
how
to
get
to
the
targets,
which
is
obviously
an
overwhelming
and
formidable
task
and
convening
the
council.
Sponsors
group
on
climate
change
will
also
provide
the
mayor
with
ways
forward
and
break
through
the
silos.
So
I
think
that
also
is
important.
N
So
much
has
been
accomplished
we're
much
further
ahead
than
we
were
some
years
ago
when
I
think
many
of
us
met
in
this
very
room
and
the
City
of
Ottawa
now
has
a
strong
base
of
information
to
advance
our
climate
action.
But
are
we
on
track
to
meet
the
targets
and
I
would
like
to
pull
up
a
slide
that
Andrea
showed
us
earlier,
and
you
can
see
that
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
graph,
there's
actually
an
uptick.
N
So
when
you
look
at
this
graph-
and
this
wasn't
quite
pointed
out
by
Jennifer
or
Andrea-
that
our
emissions
path
right
now
is
rising
so
and
after
the
rise,
this
projections
graph
then
has
a
sharp
turn.
So
we
haven't
started
this
sharp.
We
are
still
on
the
optic.
We
haven't
turned
the
corner,
so
I
would
say
no
we're
not
on
track.
The
current
plan,
which
includes
the
LRT
projection,
is
the
business
as
planned
scenario,
which
is
really
the
top
line
which
is
not
declining
but
is
flat.
N
You
can
say
that's
great,
because
population
is
increasing,
but
if
you're
asking
are
we
on
track
to
meet
an
80
or
100
percent
reduction?
No
we're
not
so
the
evidence
says
we
still
need
to
turn
that
sharp
corner.
So
how
do
we
do
this?
Well,
the
climate
change
master
planet
and
energy
evolution.
Phase
two
projects
are
an
evidence-based
roadmap
and
state-of-the-art
tools
to
help
us
get
on
track.
I
would
urge
you
councillors
to
seek
to
sharpen
your
tools
and
to
fully
utilize
them.
I
think
that
the
climate
lenses
that
have
been
proposed
are
good.
N
Applying
a
climate
lens
to
the
new
Official,
Plan
and
supporting
documents
is
good.
I
would
add
explicit
language
that
the
lens
should
also
cover
the
waste
management
plan.
Do
not
have
organics
going
into
landfill.
Creating
methane
is
an
important
thing
to
ensure
in
terms
of
our
investments,
asset
management
and
capital
projects.
Yes,
putting
a
climate
lens
on
those
is
good.
I
would
further
ask
that
you
strengthen
that
to
apply
to
procurement.
You
recall
our
discussion
on
dump
trucks
some
months
ago,
I
think.
N
Whenever
something
goes
to
this
committee,
other
committees
and
council,
you
counselors
should
be
informed
of
what
are
the
greenhouse
gas
emissions
implications
of
the
decision
that
you're
seeking
to
take.
So
our
recommendation
is
to
tweak
the
climate
change
master
plan
priority
actions
before
that
document
goes
to
Council.
You
don't
have
to
change
language
in
the
right
in
the
motion,
but
you
would
have
to
tweak
some
language
in
document
four.
We
also
think
that
the
carbon
budget
discussion
should
include
involvement
from
the
mayor's
office.
I'll
stop
there.
N
That
was
my
most
important
point,
but
there
are
recommendations
in
terms
of
the
community
emissions
as
a
number
of
presenters
perform.
You
have
pointed
out.
Corporate
emissions
are
only
four
to
five
percent,
so
we
welcome
the
engagement
that
we've
seen
from
city
staff
and
are
happy
that
senior
city
management
is
engaged
on
this
file.
Thank
you.
A
A
If
you
see
at
the
end
of
our
report,
there's
a
full
list
of
lenses
that
some
of
them
are
quite
irrelevant
now,
so
we're
gonna,
look
at
that
in
its
entirety
and
then
the
motion
was
to
add
a
climate
lens
to
every
single
report
that
comes
to
committee
and
council,
and
that
was
approved
unanimously
by
Council
cat
screech.
A
question
Thank.
M
M
N
Is
also
correct,
yes,
thank
you,
so
the
top
line,
sometimes
in
climate
analysis,
you
have
business
as
usual.
The
top
line
that's
been
presented
by
staff
is
business
as
planned,
which
means
that
the
emissions
reductions
from
the
LRT
etc,
based
on
our
current
plans,
are
already
incorporated
in
that
line.
M
N
N
Saying
that
staff
has
done
a
really
excellent
work
in
breaking
down
this
overwhelming
formidable
challenge
into
big
chunks,
so
we're
still
looking
at
the
further
articulation
detailing
of
those
big
chunks.
So,
for
example,
in
our
previous
questions,
we've
we've
several
times
touched
on
the
retrofitting
of
the
existing
building
stock.
Okay.
N
That
would
be
like
one
chunk
that
itself.
That
project
is
a
formidable
challenge,
but
the
documentation
that
you've
received
at
least
breaks
things
down,
so
that
we
can
have
traction
and
what
I'm
saying
in
the
recommendations
on
the
climate
lenses
and
saying
that
this
should
be
the
climate
lens
should
be
applied
to
all
of
the
decisions
is
to
turn
that
corner
in
that
graph.
M
Within
with
an
OC
Transpo
and
the
electric
vehicles,
and
when
we
reconstruct
a
road
making
sure
that
they're
sustainable,
safe
transportation
built
within
that
infrastructure
are
all
parts
of
it,
and
that
is
what
we're
going
to
those
are
the
details
that
that
we're
going
to
get
okay.
Thank
you.
Yeah.
N
M
A
D
Very
quickly,
thanks
to
chair
on
the
waste
management
plan
I
have
on
the
councillor
sponsors
group
for
that
I
know.
We
are
looking
at
that
through
a
climate
lens
that
has
been
raised
in
our
in
our
meetings.
I'll
get
clarity
on
from
staff,
though
just
to
make
sure
that
that
is
the
approach
that
we're
taking
on
that
and
your
other
points
we'll
ask
them
in
open
session
around
the
procurement
and
that
other
piece
committee
council
decision.
So
just
thank
you
for
coming
in
yeah.
D
A
You
Charles
Hodgson
and
there
are
open
seats.
I,
see
some
folks
standing
near
the
coat
rack.
It
might
be
warm
and
cozy
over
by
the
coat
rack,
but
there
are
some
empty
seats
at
the
back
if
you'd
like
to,
but
don't
I'm,
not
forcing
you.
If
you
want
to
stand
there
fill
your
boots.
So
following
mr.
Houston
we
have
Duncan
burry.
O
O
Thank
You
chair
think
globally
act
locally.
This
past
weekend
saw
the
end
of
cop
25
in
Madrid.
The
latest
of
the
series
of
annual
UN
climate
conferences,
which
four
years
ago
gave
us
the
Paris
agreement
by
all
reports.
The
Madrid
meeting
made
little
progress
and,
as
Elizabeth
me
has
said,
there
are
good
cops
and
bad
cops.
O
This
means
that
acting
locally
is
all
the
more
important
for
us
and
all
other
localities.
Ten
years
ago
there
was
another
disappointing
UN
climate
conference
in
Copenhagen,
and
that's
the
time
that
I
started
advocating
for
climate
action
at
the
City
of
Ottawa.
The
first
thing
I
found
out
was
that
other
people
had
already
been
working
on
the
same
goal
at
the
city
for
10
or
20
years
well
before
amalgamation.
O
The
second
thing
I
learned
was
that
there
was
resistance
to
climate
action.
The
phrase
I
heard
again
and
again
was
City.
Council
has
no
appetite
to
revisit
the
air
quality
and
climate
change
management
plan,
but
we
continued
to
urge
action.
Sometimes
it
became
uncomfortable
and
acrimonious
at
one
point:
I
remember,
sitting
in
the
mayor's
boardroom
with
a
very
senior
member
of
the
of
the
city.
O
You
know
paraphrase
they
express
sympathy
for
our
cause,
but
said
politically
they
weren't
seeing
public
concern
from
anyone
else,
and
yet
the
city
did
promise
to
revise
the
air
quality
and
climate
change
management
plan
and
the
climate
change
master
plan
is
the
descendant
of
that
promise.
At
a
time,
some
people
wanted
more
action.
Faster
I
worked
closely
with
Graham
Saul,
then
with
ecology,
Ottawa
and
I.
Remember
him
saying
it's
like
we
can't
take
yes
for
an
answer.
O
O
If
we
to
get
to
one-and-a-half,
we
have
to
do
it
in
less
than
it
doesn't
here
that
has
to
be
done
and
dusted,
and
that's
now
less
than
eleven
years,
and
they
agree
also
that
missing
the
target
is
going
to
be
costly
and
dangerous,
and
the
current
trajectory
is
amias
at
three
or
five
degrees,
Celsius
increase,
so
I,
don't
think
we
have
the
luxury
anymore
to
take
yes
for
an
answer
and
let
the
city
move
forward.
Slowly.
O
Tom
rivet
Carnac
was
the
right-hand
man
to
Christiana
Figueres,
who
was
the
head
of
the
event
climate
effort
that
achieved
the
Paris
agreement,
so
things
have
changed
in
Ottawa
over
ten
years
politically,
we
are
seeing
broad
public
concern.
You
have
before
you
an
ambitious
local
climate
plan
and
I
urge
you
to
grab
it
with
both
hands.
Most
of
your
constituents
are
concerned
and
more
will
become
concerned.
As
time
goes
on,
you
can
be
on
the
leading
edge
of
these
solutions
and
I'll
leave
you
with
an
analogy.
O
A
long
time
ago,
the
City
of
Ottawa
dithered
and
declined
for
15
years
to
take
on
a
city
infrastructure
project,
mostly
because
it
was
too
expensive.
In
the
end
they
did
spend
the
money.
They
were
right
to
fear
that
cost,
because
now
the
municipal
project
is
valued
at
over
16
billion
dollars.
The
time
was
150
years
ago
and
the
project
was
piped
city
water,
and
can
you
imagine
it
was
expensive,
but
can
you
imagine
having
a
city
without
piped
city,
water
and
sewers
climate
change?
O
A
C
Thank
You
chair
members
of
council
I'm
here
with
wish
Watts
Ottawa.
Firstly,
just
want
to
encourage
the
committee
and
later
council
to
adopt
the
recommendation
to
reduce
corporate
greenhouse
gas
emissions
by
a
hundred
percent
by
2040.
This
is
a
challenging
target,
but
one
that
is
entirely
consistent
with
a
declaration
of
a
climate
of
urgency
that
you
you
made
earlier
in
support
of
the
recommendation
and
to
ensure
that
the
target
is
woven
into
all
the
city
does.
C
We
would
strongly
urge
that
the
solid
waste
master
plan
incorporate
this
as
a
zero
emission
target
and
in
his
planning
process.
So
to
pick
up
on
the
point
that
councilmen
are
made
and
and
Angela
kilohertz
are
all
future
waste
management
program
and
technology
options
that
are
identified
during
the
planning
process
should
be
reviewed
and
evaluated
through
a
climate
lens
and
with
the
goal
of
a
zero
emission
waste
management
system
by
2040.
C
If
not
earlier,
the
staff
report
notes
that
solid
waste
represents
9%
of
a
city's
corporate,
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions
or
an
estimated
20
1.2
kilotons
of
carbon
dioxide
equivalent.
While
this
may
seem
small
in
the
overall
context
of
a
city's
operations,
waste
is
an
area
where
reductions
in
greenhouse
gases
are
clearly
possible
and
total
greenhouse
gas
generation
is
not
insignificant.
It
is
noted
that
waste,
in
fact,
greenhouse
gas
emissions,
will
increase
over
the
coming
years
as
the
amount
of
waste
causing
it
in
place
in
trail,
road
increases
and
the
opening
of
a
new
landfill
cells.
C
So
just
to
note
that
the
track
were
on
on
that
is
upwards.
So,
with
this
we'd
like
to
bring
to
your
attention
two
very
clear
implications
resulting
from
a
commitments
of
this,
this
kind
of
a
target.
Firstly,
zero
emissions
means
that
no
organic
materials
from
green
bean
program
or
anywhere
else
should
be
disposed
off
of
the
trail
or
landfill
site.
So
that's
the
point
was
made
by
by
couple
so
and
I
note
that
in
fact,
in
the
project
of
energy
evolution,
these
are
one
of
the
projects
that's
focused
on,
so
that's
really
really
important.
C
The
city
obviously
does
collect
a
certain
amount
of
the
gas.
That's
a
large
amount
of
the
gases
were
released
from
trail
Road,
but
doesn't
get
at
all
so
zero.
Organics,
the
other
issue,
which
is
perhaps
equally
important,
is
that
zero
emissions
means
no
incineration
of
waste
either
you
burn
waste.
You
produce.
C
Co2
incineration
produces,
according
to
a
UK
data,
approximately
one
ton
of
co2
for
every
one
ton
of
garbage
burned,
there's
a
range
there
between
point
seven
tonnes
of
co2
to
one
point:
seven
tons
of
co2
based
on
on
the
analysis
of
waste
incinerators
in
the
UK.
The
factor
that's
important.
There
is
the
amount
of
carbon
in
the
waste
and
that's
a
factor
of
how
much
organics
is
in
there.
How
much
wood
is
in
there
and
perhaps
most
importantly,
how
much
plastic
is
in
there.
C
So
what
we
want
to
do
again
is
to
recognize
that
incineration
produces
co2
and,
in
fact,
although
it's
a
smaller
number
compared
so
the
methane
that's
generated
from
organics.
The
fact
is
over
the
lifetime
of
a
long,
long,
30-year
life
time
of
a
waste
incinerator,
you
could
be
generating
a
significant
amount
of
greenhouse
gas,
perhaps
7.5
million
tonnes
at
the
higher
end
of
that
range.
So
to
conclude,
zero
emissions
target
for
2040
means
no
organics
disposal
at
all,
and
it
means
no
incineration.
C
There
are
viable
alternatives
for
both
organics
disposal
and
incineration,
and
we
sincerely
hope
that,
where
the
detail,
analysis
of
climate
change
impacts
woven
into
the
waste
plan
that
will
identify
and
pursue
options
that
are
part
of
a
waste
management
strategy
designed
to
help
and
address
the
climate
emergency.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
G
Thank
You
Duncan
I.
You
talked
about
incinerators
because
I
often
get
asked
about
that,
because
people
see
it
as
an
inefficiency
and
of
course
it
was
tried
in
the
city
in
the
past,
and
it
sounds
like
you're
totally
totally
ruling
that
out
and
that's
what
I've
heard
from
experts
as
well.
So
do
you
see
ways
that
we
can
capture
the
the
gas
in
the
future?
Is
that
something
that
we
should
look
more
closely
at
in.
C
Terms
of
the
organics
you're
talking
about
councilor
yeah,
well,
there's
two
ways
to
do
this:
you
can
do
if
you're,
an
anaerobic
digestive
system
and
you
collect
the
gas
and
you
produce
a
fuel
in
that
and
in
fact,
Toronto
has
digesters,
and
they
in
fact,
are
using
that
field
to
fill
their
garbage
truck
fleet.
That's
something
which
is
happening.
The
other
option
obviously
is
anaerobic
system
which
doesn't
produce
methane
and
that's
the
kind
of
system
we
have
and
that's
one
of
the
discussions
which
need
to
happen,
I
think
during
the
the
waste
plan.
C
P
A
A
Q
Q
Q
In
1995,
the
Ottawa
South
Community
Association
wrote
the
regional
chair
regarding
research
into
the
Official
Plan,
which
is
sort
of
where
we
are
now,
and
we
never
did
get
a
proper
response
on
what
we
were
terming
sort
of
missing
master
plans.
So
as
we
contemplate
a
climate
change
master
plan,
in
my
terms,
we
still
have
no
social
master
plan.
Q
We
still
have
no
energy
master
plan,
so
skepticism
aside,
I'm
looking
for
a
balance
for
for
us
to
move
forward
and
I'm,
not
convinced
that
the
climate
change
as
as
presented
will
be
balanced
by
other
master
plans.
My
I
had
two
appeals
regarding
the
lack
of
green
space
master
plan,
and
now
we
have
an
urban
green
space
master
plan.
That's
expanding
and
hopefully,
one
day
we'll
compete
with
the
transportation
master
plan.
Q
So
in
1919,
scientists
are
still
working
with
the
planetary
boundaries,
and
my
flyer
that
I
sent
in
to
you
shows
that
they
have
constructed
nine
planetary
boundaries,
which
is
to
say
that
climate
change
is
not
independent
of
your
official
plan,
not
independent
of
the
fresh
water
use,
not
independent
of
aerosols
or
pollution.
So
climate
change,
without
showing
me
the
metrics
I'm.
Q
Looking
for
a
much
larger
approach
to
this
matter
of
our
land-use
I
took
a
quick
look
at
the
terms
of
reference
of
this
committee
and
it
it
would
have
it
would
struggle
trying
to
deal
with
my
thoughts
on
this
matter.
I'm.
Sorry,
regarding
hydrological
cycles,
the
short
story
is
that
the
federal
government
commissioned
a
two-year
report
into
the
Ottawa
River,
and
the
report
did
not
call
for
a
council
for
the
Ottawa
River.
The
consequence
of
that
is
that
you
have
no
watershed.
Q
Planning
and
the
watershed
planning
is
not
independent
of
your
climate
change,
so
you
you
will
struggle
because
you're
contained
by
the
constitutional
bodies,
Canada
and
Ontario
and
Quebec,
and
further
to
that
Ottawa.
In
my
terms,
anyway,
what
from
what
I
was
able
to
gather
made
no
comments
on
the
upcoming
closure
of
two
nuclear
facilities
on
the
Ottawa
River,
so
I'm
not
convinced
that
we're
ready
to
walk
the
walk
yet
for
climate
change,
I
hope
we
but
I'm.
You
know
I'm,
just
not
convinced
so
I'll.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Q
A
Q
A
R
R
We
know
that
the
IPCC
is
the
United
Nations
body
for
assessing
the
science
related
to
climate
change
and
for
reporting
to
the
world
on
its
findings.
What
not
everybody
may
know
today
and
I
think
Charles
Hudson
alluded
to
it
is
that
the
IPCC
is
made
up
of
both
scientists
and
politicians
representing
every
single
country
on
earth.
The
IPCC
cannot
publish
a
single
recommendation
without
each
and
every
representative
agreeing
to
do
so.
Nowhere
on
earth
has
an
organization
acted
with
more
integrity
and
more
diligence
in
making
recommendations
that
affect
mankind.
R
R
We
are
sitting
here
in
this
incredibly
civilized
room
on
this
incredibly
normal
day,
and
it
is
so
damn
hard
to
speak
of
the
risks
ahead
without
sounding
phenomenally
melodramatic,
but
without
real
and
measurable
results.
We
know
that
the
climate
crisis
full
force
is
not
centuries
but
merely
decades
away.
R
We
know
that
vicious
storms
will
make
our
most
recent
tornadoes
sadly
seem,
but
minor
West
Coast
fires
will
grow
in
intensity
and
in
frequency,
island
nations
will
be
taken
out
entirely.
Countries
with
large
coastal
populations
will
face
horrific
loss
of
lives
and
a
need
for
mega
mass
migration.
These
aren't
just
cities
in
developing
countries,
think
of
an
Coover
I,
think
of
Amsterdam,
think
of
Tokyo
New
York,
hundreds
of
millions
of
people
displaced
over
the
coming
decades.
R
Our
world
plagued
by
such
instability
faces
economic
chaos
and
a
threat
to
our
civilization
and
our
very
way
of
life.
I
am
sorry
if
I
sound
melodramatic,
but
as
most
of
us
around
this
table
know
that
is
no
exaggeration.
Our
city's
elected
officials,
unlike
city
staff,
have
been
slow
to
pay
attention
to
climate
action.
There
have
been
promises
but
minimal
action,
but
I
am
hopeful.
R
Finally,
at
this
summer's
vote,
the
city
declared
a
climate
emergency.
Some
counselors
have
been
on
board
all
along,
and
for
that
we
thank
you.
Others,
like
the
mayor
and
many
councilors
who
have
not
realized
the
degree
of
its
importance
in
the
past,
have
now
risen
to
the
challenge
and
also
come
on
board
counselors
like
Jen
harder,
have
been
open-minded,
they've
asked
their
constituents
and
they've
listened.
Our
representatives
voted
to
support
the
climate
emergency
declaration.
For
this
we
thank
you.
We
should
all
be
in
credibly,
proud
together.
R
Today
we
have
a
climate
change
master
plan
brought
to
us
by
dedicated
city
staff.
We
must
support
the
most
aggressive
targets
possible.
We
are
running
out
of
time.
I
know
that
many
of
you
did
not
sign
up
for
this.
Many
of
you
chose
to
become
city
councilors,
for
other
reasons,
other
good
reasons.
It
is,
however,
your
fate
that
you
are
in
a
position
to
have
an
impact
and
I
believe
that
you
have
a
moral
obligation
to
do
so
and
I
believe.
Many
of
you
feel
that
way
to
support
the
most
aggressive
measures
possible.
H
O
A
S
S
Blunting
climate
change
starts
at
home
and
we
congratulate
the
City
of
Ottawa
for
its
attention
and
commitment.
This
is
a
game.
Changer
success
requires
transformation
at
unprecedented
speed,
and
here
we
have
a
great
opportunity
to
do
tremendous
good
in
our
city
and
resist
the
opportunity
for
glossy
proposals
of
fundamentally
flawed
approaches,
ostensibly
to
solve
problems,
but
that
will
suck
away
money,
time
and
opportunities.
S
S
There
is
a
clearly
better
option
that
is
safer,
healthier
uses,
less
resources,
much
less
energy
and
is
more
resilient
and
sustainable
wireless
radiation
is
biologically
active
and
harmful,
and
there
are
better
options.
Fibre
optic
cable
is
far
superior
to
wireless
data
transmission.
The
City
of
Ottawa
should
be
using
its
diverse
powers
to
ensure
we
have
the
most
climate,
appropriate
and
resilient
broadband
infrastructure.
S
If
5g
means
more
data
faster
than
fiber
wins
the
race
by
a
mile.
You
are
wondering
what
a
climate
lens
looks
like.
This
is
one
example.
It
requires
look
at
different
angles
and
asking
many
questions.
What
does
climate-friendly
and
resistant
broadband
look
like
it
requires
the
installation
of
fiber
throughout
the
city
do
not
install
several
cells
along
every
block,
beaming
non-ionizing
radiation
everywhere,
even
directly
into
children's
bedrooms.
These
devices
are
complex,
not
durable,
and
contain
exotic
materials
that
represent
substantial
environmental
footprints.
S
What
do
the
experts
say
when
oft-cited
example
is
titled
reinventing
wires,
international
communications,
expert,
dr.
Timothy,
shackled
states?
The
Internet
has
become
one
of
the
defining
technologies
of
our
society.
It
is
our
central
medium
for
Commerce
and
communications
and,
more
importantly,
for
our
public
discourse,
engagement
and
democratic
governance.
However,
it
has
been
hijacked
by
the
commercial
motivations
that
come
to
redefine
and
constrain
the
availability,
quality
content
and
media
of
high-speed
access
in
the
United
States
Canada
is
no
different.
Dr.
S
Charcot
continues
that
history
increasingly
supports
the
proposition
that
it
is
unrealistic
to
expect
private
monopolies
duopoly,
Zoro,
appellees,
regulated
or
unregulated,
to
make
the
long-term
investments
necessary
to
build
the
enduring
and
sustainable
public
broadband
fiber
information
highway
that
our
country
needs
in
a
document
referenced
here.
He
details
why
and
how
we
must
move
forward
in
the
information
age
with
all
of
its
advantages.
He
concludes.
S
First
and
foremost,
the
public
needs
publicly
owned
and
controlled
wired
infrastructure
that
is
inherently
more
future-proof,
more
reliable,
more
sustainable,
more
energy,
efficient,
safer
and
far
more
essential
to
many
other
services.
Wireless
networks
and
services
compared
to
wired
access
are
inherently
more
complex,
more
costly,
more
unstable
and
more
constraint
in
what
they
can
deliver.
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
Peterborough
has
been
on
the
cutting
edge
and
beginning
the
process
of
ensuring
that
VG
wired,
not
Wireless,
is
in
place
and
Ottawa
needs
to
do
the
same.
S
Finally,
in
an
addressing
climate
change,
I
would
just
like
to
reiterate
that
Waste
Watch
Ottawa
climate
imperatives
mean
no
any
organics
in
landfill,
no
pollution
of
organic
waste
with
plastic
and
no
thermal
treatments
of
waste,
including
incineration
or
so-called
chemical
recycling.
We
also
endorse
ecology
Ottawa
to
stop
the
urban
boundary
encroachment
and
to
preserve
urban,
suburban
forests,
rural
farms,
forests
and
wetlands.
They
all
need
to
be
maintained
for
biodiversity.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
and
I
welcome
any
questions.
A
You
I
met
with
the
Internet
service
provider
recently
and
obviously
in
the
rural
area.
Connectivity
is
a
challenge
everything
we
expect
as
a
city.
What
our
school
boards
expect
of
our
students
is
to
be
connected.
I
live
in
a
home
that
does
not
have
access
to
wired
services,
but
I
met
with
a
company.
That's
that
was
looking
at
something
a
bit
different
they're
looking
at
looking
at
remote
areas
and
installing
one
tower,
but
then,
instead
of
having
satellite
towers
to
it,
providing
fibre
from
the
tower
to
the
community.
A
S
S
A
A
A
T
Only
found
out
about
this
last
night
so
take
time.
Sorry,
the
reason
I'm
here
is
because
I'm,
a
taxpayer
and
I
see
a
lot
of
nice
things
going
on
beautiful
graphs,
I'm
saying
to
myself
who's
gonna
get
the
money
and
where's
the
money
coming
from
what
I
see
most
of
its
gonna
come
from
me,
the
taxpayer.
So
that's
why
I'm
here?
T
The
next
thing
is
to
get
myself
organized
the
greenhouse
gases.
The
people
are
concerned
about
I,
think
most
are
talking
about
carbon-based
and
specifically
co2.
So
I
got
a
few
facts
here
from
NASA
and
it
says
that
the
Earth's
atmosphere
consists
of
0.04
percent
of
co2,
93
percent,
arrogant
or
0.93
of
argon
21
percent,
o2
and
78%
of
nitrogen.
T
Of
that
point,
zero
four
percent,
97
percent-
that's
of
the
co2-
is
produced
worldwide,
naturally,
and
three
percent
is
produced
by
man
of
that
three
percent.
How
much
is
produced
here
in
Canada,
1.6
percent
of
that
3
percent
and
we're
spending
an
awful
lot
of
money?
It
seems
to
me
to
deal
with
a
problem
that
is
mostly
natural
in
origin.
T
T
There
is
no
climate
emergency
in
this
document.
They
explain
why,
but
in
it
they
have
about
500
scientists.
Signatories
to
this
in
this
document,
that's
on
the
Internet
I
sent
a
copy
of
it
to
mr.
Cloutier
and
in
it
there's
a
whole
bunch
from
Canada
17
of
them.
Here
you
know,
sometimes
you
wonder
if
a
bunch
of
kooks
that
are
saying
all
this
stuff
I
mean,
do
they
have
the
credentials
or
not?
I
know
one
person
here,
Susan
Crockford,
who
is
polar
Barracks
expert.
T
She
lost
her
job,
the
University
of
Victoria,
because
she
said
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
she
said
that
the
polar
bear
hurt
is
doing
fine
and
is
growing
contrary
to
an
awful
lot
of
other
people.
Now
who
do
I
believe
then
in
here
there's
also
another
person,
Ian
Clark,
he's
from
Ottawa
err,
yeah,
Ryu
and
I'm,
saying
that
I
think
that
this
committee
I'm
going
to
get
back
I
got
it.
I
wrote
it
out.
So
I'm
going
to
make
sure
I'm
safe
carefully.
T
My
question
is:
has
this
committee
heard
from
those
scientists
who
have
challenged
the
climate
change
alarmism?
I,
see
a
committee
addressing
climate
change
with
a
very
unbalanced
view
due
to
the
limited
resources
upon
which
they
have
based
their
actions?
Other
words
have
been
listening
to
everyone
who
is
Pro
climate
change.
This
is
a
terrible
thing.
T
These
two
guys
Tim
Patterson
who's,
a
professor
geology
of
Earth
Sciences
at
the
University
of
Ottawa
and
Ian
Clark,
is
a
geologist
at
the
Carleton
University
made
presentations
to
the
Senate
hearing
committee
on
climate
change
and
you
can
watch
it
on
YouTube
I'd
recommend
that
you
watch
it
half
an
hour.
Watch
two
Canadians
tell
you
their
side
of
the
story
instead
of
just
listening
to
what
the
media
is
telling.
A
T
A
A
Was
not
suggesting
you
were
stupid,
I
was
merely
asking
you
a
question
all
right.
You
actually
didn't
say
the
words
do
I
was
I
just
want
to
be
clear
because
I,
that's
really
where
our
focus
is.
Our
focus
is
on
making
a
city,
that's
more
efficient.
We
run
and
we
aren't
spending
vast
amounts
of
our
budget
on
energy,
where
we
could
be
saving
money
through
energy
efficiency
and,
although
I'll
be
a
bit
more
environmentally
friendly
as
we
do
it.
So
thank
you
for
coming
today.
Thank
you.
Our
final
speaker
on
this
plan
is
Brian
tansy.
A
P
So
counselor
brockington
in
particular,
you
said
something
earlier
in
the
proceedings
here
when
one
of
the
delegations
that
already
spoken,
you
said.
Finally,
we
are
here
and
so
I'm
wondering
and
I,
don't
think
actually
I
think
you
were
sort
of
summarizing
what
other
people
are
saying,
and
so
my
question
is:
are
we
because
this
is
this
city?
Has
a
history
not
necessarily
this
relatively
new
council,
but
the
CC?
The
city
has
a
history
of
failing
and
writing
plans
and
putting
all
their
eggs
in
one
basket.
P
Plastic
oaf
was
a
good
example
and
saying
they're
going
to
now.
Their
plan
is
to
write
a
plan
and
nothing
really
happens.
I'm
worried,
I,
don't
really
see
the
evidence,
for
example,
budgets,
resources
being
applied
to
the
actions
that
we
need
to
take
and
if
anything
has
happened
today
that
I've
taken
away
from
the
earlier
delegations
that
I'm
surprised
that
in
a
way,
is
that
normally
in
this,
the
protocol
for
these
sessions
is
the
staff
makes
reports
and
the
allegations
make
comments
on
the
reports
today.
P
P
Then
we've
heard
today,
all
kinds
of
people
have
all
kinds
of
ideas
for
action
and
I,
don't
see
the
going
forward,
anything
other
than
reports
and
more
analysis
in
more
detailed
plans,
but
I,
don't
see
the
city
grabbing
the
bull
by
the
horns
and
actually
planning
to
actually
do
stuff,
for
example,
in
the
very
next
year
that
can
be
done
so
I'm
a
little
bit
skeptical
that
I
keep.
We
keep
seeing
stuff
reports
and
words
plans
plans
for
plans,
that's
a
yes,
and
that
was
a
new
one.
P
A
couple
of
years
ago
we
have
a
plan
for
a
plan
which
is
a
good
way
to
basically
do
nothing
and
with
the
Environment
Committee
in
particular
for
two
terms
of
council.
They
did
nothing
and
then
at
the
they
rushed
and
said.
Okay,
let's
put
plastics
in
the
green
bin.
Let's
just
go
with
it
and
that
allowed
them
to
be
able
to
say
well,
they
did
something,
but
now
we're
in
trouble
with
cut
plastics
in
the
green
band.
P
This
is
not
going
to
be
good
and
one
final
point:
councillor
Cavanaugh
referred
to
ask
the
question
about
incineration.
This
is
the
report
from
2018
from
the
UK,
where
they
went
into
the
details
on
all
their
incinerators
and,
what's
coming
out,
the
stack
and
I
want
you
all
to
hear
it
again.
I
know:
I've
said
this
before
incineration
and
those
phony
waste
to
energy
projects.
This
is
not
recycling
you're,
throwing
bad
stuff
in
the
air
you're
just
adding
to
the
pollution.
P
A
M
Thank
You
chair,
merci
beaucoup,
and
thank
you
to
all
the
delegations
who
who
spoke
to
us
today
appreciate
it
very
much,
and
certainly
thank
you
to
to
staff
for
the
report
and
I'm
convinced
that
the
science
is
strong
and
the
technology
exists
for
us
to
to
make
the
changes
that
need
to
need
to
happen.
It
takes
the
political
will
and
and
changes
societal
changes
and
I
will
be.
I
will
certainly
be
supporting.
The
report
and
the
recommendations
that
were
presented
have
a
few
questions.
M
K
We
can
get
people
out
of
their
cars
onto
public
transit,
the
more
that
that
will
actually
benefit
we
can
be
doing
more.
We
certainly
acknowledge
that,
and
what
this
report
is
is
a
road
map
of
where
our
investments,
our
best
targeted,
so
as
council
finds
its
ability
to
put
more
money
in
different
areas.
We
know
where
that
money
is
best
spent.
M
Thank
You
mr.
general
manager,
it's
well
beyond
our
means,
absolutely
we'll
need,
and
we
heard
some
some
changes
that
are
required.
Building
codes
that
need
to
that
need
to
change
and
will
need
that
collaboration
from
our
provincial
and
our
federal
partners
in
their
areas
of
jurisdiction,
so
that
we
could
affect
the
societal
change
and
the
legislative
change
that's
required.
K
Jarrett,
what
the
report
does
is
one
of
the
recommendations,
I
believe
is
number
six.
Is
it
this
report
recommends
to
council
direct
the
climate
change
sponsors
council
sponsors
group
to
give
the
mare
advice
on
which
matters
to
advocate
for
advocacy
is
actually
ongoing.
Already.
We
are
actively
talking
to
the
various
levels
of
government
about
support
for
advancing
changes
to
the
building
code,
because
those
are
absolutely
essential.
K
The
timing
of
that's
really
essential
we'd
like
to
see
programs
for
by
senior
levels
of
government
who
have
much
broader
taxation
capabilities
in
the
city
to
do
to
allow
individual
home
retrofits
and
that
we
see
the
city
being
the
administrator
of
that
program.
Much
like
in
the
1970s
and
80s
we
ran.
There
are
a
P
program
which
you
know
heavily
insulated:
a
lot
of
houses
across
the
city
and
change
mechanical
systems,
we're
a
natural
administrator,
but
they
have
the
financial
resources
to
put
into
those
programs.
K
We
see
that
we
are
absolutely
advocating
for
more
support
for
public
transit
in
Ottawa,
we're
absolutely
asking
for
direct
support.
The
retrofit,
a
municipal
building,
so
that's
ongoing
and
it
will
need
to
be
continued
to
be
ongoing
and
this
report
amps
up
that
to
a
higher
level
by
having
a
focus
on
that
advocacy
effort
led
by
the
mayor.
Thank
you.
M
We
see
the
the
initiative
to
to
reduce
GHGs
and
also
to
to
reduce
to
increase
our
resiliency
in
the
face
of
weather
changes
and
and
in
climate
change.
Do
we
have
any
data
to
with
respect
to
Otto's
experience
in
in
the
cost
to
our
individual
taxpayers,
and
this
is
in
the
in
the
effort
to
convince
to
educate,
to
inform
to
to
bring
onboard
our
residents.
Do
we
have
any
information
with
respect
to
how
much
climate
change,
if
left
unchecked
could
cost
individual
taxpayers
or
individual
homeowners.
F
Thank
you
for
the
question
as
part
of
the
financial
analysis
that
will
come
forward
in
q2,
we'll
be
doing
an
analysis
of
what
each
of
the
44
actions
proposed
in
the
in
the
list
of
20
projects
for
energy,
that
evolution
will
include
and
as
I
mentioned,
that
will
include
the
capital
and
operating
cost,
as
well
as
the
potential
savings
and
any
potential
revenue
streams.
That's
on
the
mitigation
side
for
energy
evolution
on
the
adaptation
side,
we're
currently
working
with
the
National
Capital,
Commission
and
environment
climate
change.
F
Canada
to
do
local
projections
for
how
we
anticipate
the
climate
may
change
over
the
next
three
decades.
That
work
will
inform
a
vulnerability
assessment
and
then
a
climate
resiliency
strategy
and,
as
part
of
that,
we'll
have
more
sense
of
the
actions
required
and
therefore
the
costs
to
it.
We
don't
have
local
information
on
what
the
cost
of
climate
change
will
be
for
Ottawa.
Explicitly,
though
there
is
academic
research
around
what
the
costs
at
a
national
or
international
level
will
be,
and
they
are
extensive.
F
M
M
F
Thank
you
for
the
question.
As
you
pointed
out,
fuel
switching
is
not
an
option
and
for
the
benefit
of
other
committee
members,
I'll
just
explain
that
in
Ontario
the
peak
natural
gas
and
are
the
peak
energy
for
men
from
natural
gas
is
about
three
times
that
of
electricity
and
that
natural
gas
is
used
primarily
for
heating.
Compared
to
the
peak
of
electricity
related
to
cooling.
F
L
When
we
meet
with
the
ISO
ISO,
a
main
point
is
that
they're
required,
or
the
electricity
providers
in
the
province
are
required
to
meet
demand
when
it
occurs,
so
we
are
holding
them
to
that
and
showing
them
the
model.
So
the
model
that's
been
presented.
You
know,
we've
been
discussing
it
with
them
as
well
and
saying
and
asking
questions
such
as
you
know,
as
Raymond
Laurie
was
saying
if
v's
are
really
on
an
s-curve
and
we're
gonna
have
very
steep
adoption.
Are
you
ready
for
this?
L
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
were
really
pushing
them
on.
We
want
to
work
with
them
so
that
we
can
as
much
as
possible
avoid
costs
by
you
know
not
putting
doing
a
lot
of
extra
brownfield
work
that
could
be
expensive,
but
then,
on
the
other
hand,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
you
know
intend
to
hold
them
to
account
that,
as
as
usual,
they
must
provide
the
electricity
where
it's
where
it's
needed.
I.
M
M
I
hope
that
we
are
planning
with
them
so
through
through
through
staff,
to
ensure
that
in
the
upcoming
15
20
25
year
horizon
the
distribution
network.
Is
there
to
support
the
initiatives
that
this
city
and
other
cities
will
be
doing,
but
thank
you
for
your
report.
Thank
you
for
your
work.
Thank
You,
chair,
Thank,.
A
You
counseling
I
just
want
to
say
it's
quarter
to
twelve
councillor.
Gower
is
hosting
a
piano,
sing-along,
sort
of
thing
at
noon
downstairs
and
I
Keith's,
the
soprano
and
Reilly's
the
baritone.
So
I
don't
want
them
stuck
here,
so
why
she
can
take
a
break
at
noon.
We'll
come
back
at
12:45
over
continue
with
questions
for
now
counseling.
L
L
If
you
continue
to
build
the
way
you're
building,
which
creates
energy
and
efficient
structures,
then
maybe
we
should
be
looking
at
a
way
to
to
incentivize
building
in
such
a
way
that
the
what
we're
building
will
stand,
the
test
of
time
better
will
be
more
energy
efficient
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
will
be
more
cost-effective
to
run
for
the
owners.
So
have
we
looked
at
that?
Can
we
look
at
that,
so.
K
Chair
I'll
take
that
question.
So,
first,
all
Municipal
Act
prevents
you
from
giving
money
directly
to
a
business
of
any
sort
is
because
it's
considered
bonusing
under
the
Act.
So
we
could
not
offer
financial
incentives
to
businesses.
Then
the
question
of
to
individual
homeowners
is
a
pasta.
It
is
legally
possible,
it
becomes
a
financial
capacity
issue
and
we
can
look
at
that
as
I
indicated
earlier.
K
We
strongly
feel
that
a
program
like
the
RR
ap
program
that
ran
for
decades
and
was
incredibly
successful,
where
the
federal
government
provides
the
money
and
we
administer
it
and
they're
apparently
interested
in
looking
at
that
is,
is
a
good
way
to
go
and
we
would
strongly
support
that
direction.
But
in
terms
of
some
of
the
suggestions
made
by
some
of
the
delegates
about
whether
or
not
someone
coming
in
with
an
application
for
a
net,
zero
building
could
get
a
fast-track
we're
looking
at
high
performance
standards
and
we'll
take
a
look
at
that.
L
And
I
appreciate
that,
thank
you.
I
wasn't
suggesting
a
bonusing
type
of
scenario.
What
I
was
suggesting
was
prioritizing
if
you
will
of
of
applications
as
they
come
in
using
a
slightly
different
checklist,
maybe
to
determine
which
ones
will
go
forward.
What
at
what
time
frame.
So,
if
you're
prepared
to
do
that,
do
I
need
to
give
you
direction
or.
K
D
Menard,
thank
you
very
much
chair.
Thank
you
for
this
report.
It's
it's
fantastic
to
see
and
I
know
how
hard
you've
worked
on
it
over
the
many
many
months
and
I
guess
some
of
its
in
years
in
the
making.
So
thank
you
for
that.
There's
been
a
lot
of
delegations
that
I've
spoken
about
sort
of.
We
need
to
make
sure
we're
taking
action
on
this.
This
can't
just
be
a
plan
again.
You
know,
I
have
faith
that
we
are
going
to
proceed
in
this
direction
of
taking
action
precisely
because
of
the
team
here.
D
I
know
that
you
care
about
this
I
know
that
the
head
of
pide
does
as
well.
I
know
that
there's
people
in
the
organization
that
want
to
move
us
forward
and
though
I've
been
skeptical
in
the
past
I,
think
we're
at
a
point
now,
where
this
is
going
to
be
a
game
changer
for
the
city
of
Otto.
We're
going
to
take
that
sharp
turn.
So
I
do
have
a
few
questions
about
how
we
do
that
on
energy
evolution
in
particular,
which
is
a
big
big
part
of
this
in
terms
of
taking
action
there.
D
How
are
you
involving
the
community
before
the
q2,
2020
I
know
you've
involved
them
to
this
point,
but
how
are
you
going
to
continue
to
do
that
into
the
q2
2020
and
what
kind
of
actions
that
you
know
I've
seen
I've
seen
the
proposed
actions
there?
How
do
we
go
from
from
here
to
to
taking
action
on
those
to
actually
implementing
them?
What
is
your
own
thought
process
around
that.
F
Thank
you
very
much
in
terms
of
our
commitment
to
the
sounding
board,
which
has
been
engaged
thus
far.
It
includes
about
200,
internal
and
external
stakeholders
representing
more
than
90
organizations
in
the
city.
Many
of
those
have
been
involved
to
date
in
in
the
development
of
the
pathways
and
in
preliminary
ideas
which
have
fed
in
to
the
list
of
20
proposed
projects.
Our
commitment
to
that
sounding
board
was
to
send
out
a
survey
in
the
new
year
and
do
a
bit
of
a
pulse
check
on
how
they
want
to
be
engaged.
Historically.
F
Once
we
have
a
sense
of
who
is
interested
in
continuing
to
work
on
those,
we
can
share
the
overviews
of
how
we
envision
those
projects
and
receive
feedback
on
those
we're
hoping
to
work
closely
with
that
sounding
board
and
those
technical
experts
over
the
first
three
months
in
the
year,
so
that
we
can
then
bring
the
fort
report
forward
in
q2.
Okay,.
F
Certainly
one
of
the
things
we've
heard
from
the
council
sponsors
group
is
that
folks
are
hungry
to
understand
what
they
can
do
as
individuals,
so
part
of
that
will
be
developing
some
messaging
for
counselors,
who
are
receiving
those
requests
and
updating
information
that
we
have
so
that
we
can
help
individuals
understand
the
role
that
they
play
in
the
climate
solutions.
Okay,.
D
Thank
you
for
that.
Another
piece
of
this
is
our
cooperation
with
provincial
federal
governments.
In
Ottawa
our
grants,
game,
I
guess
you
could
call
has
been,
has
been
I,
think
personally,
I
believe
it
has
been
lagging
behind
and
that
we
can
do
a
better
job
of
seeking
grants
from
other
orders
of
government
and
working
in
collaboration
with
them.
So
I.
We
need
a
plan
to
do
that.
It
doesn't
just
happen.
You
have
to
have
people
that
are
experts
on
writing
grants.
They
need
to
understand
what
the
those
government's
want
to
see.
D
You
need
to
meet
with
the
staff
at
those
orders
to
make
sure
that
you're
putting
in
there
what
they
what
they
want
to
see.
So
the
cooperation,
the
advocacy
on
counselor
side
I
think,
is
great.
What
what
are
we
going
to
do,
though,
to
to
up
our
grants
game?
So
this
is
a
major
part
of
being
able
to.
You
know
not
make
municipal
expenditures
as
much,
but
have
other
orders
pay
for
it's
a
it's
a
big
part
of
our
budget.
D
K
Chair
if
I
may
start
and
then
miss
flowers
will
add
to
what
I'm
saying
on
a
macro
level
here
at
the
city,
the
city
manager's
office
actually
does
track
grant
opportunities
and
when
they
become
available
they're
there
fanned
out
to
the
various
departments
and
departments
claim
them
to
pursue
them,
and
there
was
an
example.
Recently
council
may
remember:
there
was
a
major
grant
program
available
for
recreational
facilities,
which
my
colleagues
and
I
are
CFS
took
the
lead
on.
We
provided
support,
so
there
is
a
centralized
way
of
tracking
and
pursuing
it.
K
We
are,
we
have
a
list
of
active
programs
through
FCM
and
other
opportunities
that
are
correctly
related
to
this.
We
are
following
those
opportunities
and
we
will
be
submitting
one
of
the
things
those
grant
programs
often
say
to
us
is:
is
this
project
part
of
a
broader
plan
or
not,
and
if
Council
takes
our
recommendations
today,
we'll
be
able
to
vehemently
say?
Yes,
it's
part
of
a
broader
plan,
now,
not
just
a
one-off.
So
this.
F
I
may
add
to
that
in
terms
of
some
of
the
progress
we've
made
this
year
we
were
successful
in
a
$50,000
grant
to
install
an
electric
vehicle
charger
at
Bob,
McQuarrie
and
working
with
in
vari.
We
have
submitted
a
funding
proposal
to
install
13
double-headed
evie
charging
stations
throughout
the
city.
F
The
first
around
advocacy,
will
be
looking
at
how
these
ministerial
mandate,
letters
align
with
energy
evolution
and
figuring
out
how
to
tangibly
advocate
related
to
their
mandates
and
second,
on
fund
the
evolution.
One
of
the
proposed
20
projects-
it
does
include
a
funding
strategy
and,
as
the
general
manager
has
pointed
out,
we
are
currently
tracking
open
opportunities.
That's.
D
Great
one
of
the
areas
that
we're
looking
at
making
a
major
shift
on
is
within
heat
pumps
and
I.
Think
that's
the
right
strategy.
There's
been
a
lot
of
work
done
by
enter,
can
as
an
example
on
heat
pumps
and
the
technology,
and
we
now
see
cold
climate
heat
pumps
that
are
able
to
you
know
work
down
to
minus
30.
You
still
need
backup
sources
of
heat
with
those,
though,
and
so
that
again
that
partnership
with
the
federal
government
provincial
government
is
going
to
be
extremely
important.
D
If
we're
going
to
be
starting
to
move
from
propane
oil
and
natural
gas
into
heat
pumps,
the
the
the
education
level
on
heat
pumps
is
low,
people
don't
know
what
they
are
and
they
don't
know
how
they
work,
that
they
can
humidify
your
house.
They
can
cool
your
house,
they
can
heat
your
house,
and
so
we
need
to
do
a
lot
of
education
on
these
pieces.
There
was
a
grant
program
previously
in
the
provincial
government.
D
That's
now
ended
they're
a
little
more
costly
than
say
replacing
a
furnace
but
they're
they're,
getting
on
par
with
the
overall
cost
of
say
heating
with
natural
gas.
It's
about
this,
it's
it's
similar
in
cost,
certainly
beats
propane
and
oil,
so
I
just
on
the
heat
pump
strategy.
Cuz,
it's
a
big
part
of
how
we're
gonna
transition
in
terms
of
the
community,
GHGs,
I'd,
love
to
see
more
I,
know.
D
I
know,
that's
probably
coming
I,
don't
expect
it
now,
but
that
we
need
more
on
that
to
educate
the
populace
of
Ottawa
of
how
we
can
do
that.
Cuz,
a
lotta
people
are
still
switching
they're
putting
in
a
natural
gas
furnace
again
right,
so
that
that's
how
they're
going
cuz
they
see
how
inexpensive
it
is
comparatively
and
so
the
more
education
on
this,
the
better
and
I,
don't
have
any
thoughts
on
it.
But
hopefully
we
can
work
together
on
that.
Thank.
F
You
for
the
suggestion,
of
course,
that's
at
a
local
level,
but
it's
a
problem
that
we
face
nationally,
so
retrofitting
buildings
and
heat
pumps,
in
particular
our
key
technology,
to
move
forward
with
climate
solutions.
We
participated
something
called
a
Canadian
urban
sustainability,
practitioners,
Network
or
cusp,
and
we
have
a
call
every
two
weeks
in
which
we
strategize
about
programs
that
we
can
look
at
either
at
the
local
level
and
learn
from
best
practices,
share
research
or
approach
federal
level
agencies
to
help
move
this
forward.
F
Last
year
we
submitted
a
30
million
dollar
grant
to
n
our
can
about
the
installation
of
municipal
staff
to
develop
electric
vehicle
policy
and
infrastructure
across
the
country,
and
one
of
the
questions
for
2020
is
how
we
will
approach
buildings
and
heat
pumps
has
been
part
of
that
discussion.
So
we'll
keep
you
abreast
of
how
that
evolves
over
time.
Separate
from
that,
our
communication
and
education
project
proposed
energy
evolution
will
identify
key
areas
like
heat
pumps,
where
there's
an
opportunity
for
residents
to
take
a
role.
Okay,.
D
Thank
you
that
my
last
question
chair,
thank
you
for
your
indulgence
is
around
an
Troy
color
Herzog's
questions
around
the
climate
lens
I'm,
going
to
key
in
on
the
procurement,
because
I
think
waste
management.
We
are
doing
that
as
part
of
our
planning.
I
talked
about
wrong,
but
I
believe
we're
doing
that,
and
then
the
committee
and
council
decisions
I
think
we're
going
to
get
there
in
terms
of
procurement,
though,
and
when
the
delegation
raised.
That
is
this
something
that
you
see
that
will
come
along
with
this.
So
you
have
that
opinion
on
on.
K
Cherry
I
think
it's
absolutely
I,
think
miss
color,
so
it
makes
a
valid
point
and
I
think
it
is
something
we
are
going
to
try
to
introduce
with
there's
several
measures.
In
the
second
phase
of
energy
evolution
which
talks
about
targeting
budgeting,
you
know
carbon
budgets
and
our
departments
actually
going
to
be
one
of
the
pilot
projects.
I
think
when
we
get
into
that
that
will
become
part
of
that
they'll
they'll
connect
to
each
other,
pretty
fast,
we'll
have
to
go
there
as
well,
so
I
think
it's
a
fair
point.
D
A
Thank
you,
I
know.
Will
McDonald
was
here
at
the
start,
when
I
sort
of
made
staff
kind
of
eff
off
and
stuff
that
he
did
leave
the
room
but
I'm
not
sure
if
he's
still
listening,
but
we
can
make
sure
that
we
actually
asked
that
question
of
will
directly
either
wellbut
dollars
our
chief
procurement
officer
at
City
of
Ottawa,
and
then
we
can
get
a
response
for
Council
for
that
all
right.
So
it
is
you're.
Not
next,
though,.