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From YouTube: Standing Committee on Environmental Protection, Water and Waste Management - March 22, 2022
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Standing Committee on Environmental Protection, Water and Waste Management - March 22, 2022
Agenda and supporting documents available at www.ottawa.ca/agendas
A
Good
morning,
everyone
I
do
see
we
have
enough
members
on
screen
for
quorum,
so
it
is
9
30,
so
we
will
get
underway.
I
do
believe
that
councilor
brockington
had
sent
his
regrets
for
today's
meeting.
A
So
this
is
the
I
didn't
make
it
did
I
make
a
joke
class
meeting
about
agenda
it
being
agenda
21.
I
always
try
to
do
that.
I
always
try
to
make
a
little
agenda.
21
joke
anyways.
If
I
missed
that
that's
on
me,
I
only
get
a
couple
chances
a
term
to
be
able
to
do
that,
but
agenda
22
is
before
us
on
march
22
of
2022.,
so
welcome
any
declarations
of
interest.
A
Done
you
know
a
leaf
blower
that
you're,
like
I
better,
I
better
not
vote
on
this,
because
I
want
to
leave
you're
good
okay,
going
on
confirmation
minutes
for
our
meeting
the.
A
Lobby
yeah
we
gotta
watch
out
for
them
that
leaf
blower
lobby
suck
and
blowing
is
what
they're
doing
tuesday
september
6
2021.
A
A
D
Me
in
the
background
counselor
moffat
doing
our
yoga
in
the
park.
I
like
it.
A
Okay,
so
before
I
get
in,
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
today
march
22nd
2022
is
world
water
day.
You
will
have
all
received
information
from
maryland
journal
about
world
water
day.
It's
the
international
day
of
recognition
that
was
established
to
raise
awareness
about
access
to
clean
water
and
good
sanitation
practices.
A
So
there's
some
good
information
there
about
drinking
water.
You
know
just
what
the
city
does.
We
all
know
that
the
city
of
ottawa
has
phenomenal
drinking
water.
We
promote
that
every
year
we
get
reports
on
that
this
committee
every
year
so
happy
world
water
day
to
all
of
you
on
council
and
to
everyone
all
the
16
people
watching
on
youtube.
That's
a
rough
estimate,
so
moving
on
communications,
there
is
none
response
to
inquiries.
We
have
two
responses
to
inquiries
on
our
agenda
here
today:
tree
removal,
notifications
and
invasive
species,
removal
in
public
green
spaces.
A
D
D
So,
thank
you
thank
you
and
thank
you
christopher,
whereas
a
variety
of
invasive
species
are
currently
present
in
ottawa.
D
If
provided
the
training
and
tools
needed
to
properly
manage
invasive
species
can
play
a
role
in
managing
invasive
species
in
their
communities,
whereas
community
volunteers
can
identify
species
invasive
species
more
quickly
in
their
own
community,
dirty
detection
and
monitoring
of
invasive
species.
Growth
supports
better
long-term
control.
D
Development
and
implementation
of
a
process
for
approval
and
monitoring
require
an
fte
to
manage
the
overall
program.
Therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
as
part
of
the
2023
budget
process,
public
works
consider
the
requirement
for
one
full-time,
equivalent
and
fte
position
for
the
management
of
an
invasive
species
of
stewardship
program
and
therefore
be
it
further
resolved
that
public
works,
coordinate.
The
development,
coordinate
development
of
the
invasive
species
volunteer
program
with
legal
services,
auto
public
health
planning,
real
estate
economic
development
to
ensure
all
necessary
legal
health
and
safety
and
natural
environment
considerations
are
included
in
the
program.
A
That'll
ensure
the
invasive
species
item
appears
on
our
agenda
at
the
next
meeting
in
april.
So
thank
you
for
that
counselor
cliche
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
have
delegations
on
that
and
ask
questions
to
staff
and
any
emotions
that
might
come
forward
on
that.
But,
of
course
the
the
notice
of
motion
does
include
a
request
for
staff.
This
is
a
very
similar
process
to
what
we
did
back
when
we
started
the
wild
man.
F
It
was
but
I'm
very
pleased
with
the
motion
that
councilor
cluchey
has
introduced.
F
We
do
have
a
rich
number
of
a
wide
number
of
volunteers
in
my
ward,
who
really
look
after
city-owned
property
in
terms
of
invasive
species,
and
I
wanted
to
make
a
comment,
but
this
is
an
excellent
motion
and
I
look
forward
to
further
deliberation
on
it
at
our
next
meeting.
Perfect.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
cancer
king,
all
right
so
on
to
our
agenda,
so
we
have
item
one,
which
is
a
referral
from
council
back
in
october.
We'll
deal
with
that,
because
I've
asked
for
presentation
just
to
give
an
update
on
where
things
stand.
There
item
two
is
the
community
energy
innovative
fund,
which
has
a
summary
report.
I
believe
we're
doing
a
brief
update
on
that
one
too
ready
ottawa's
ottawa
three.
Also
an
update
item
number
four
is
status.
A
Update
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
race
management
requires
emotions
for
the
period
ending
march
11
2022.
Can
we
receive
the
status
update.
D
A
You
and
then
what
I'm
going
to
do
right
now,
added,
essentially
adding
an
item.
Five
there's
a
there's
a
matter.
I
spoke
about
this
with
counselor
dean's
office
quite
a
while
ago,
but
we
haven't
had
any
meetings.
So
we
have
a
motion,
that's
going
to
be
moved
by
me,
but
it
is
really
from
counselor
dean.
Since
cancer
deans
is
not
on
this
committee,
I've
agreed
I've
agreed
to
move
it,
but
I
will
ask
councillor
deans
just
to
speak
to
it.
A
It's
something
that
the
resident
reached
out
on
we're
trying
to
work
on
some
funding
piece,
but
it
involves
a
grant
request
from
fcm,
so
cancer
deans
I'll.
Let
you
speak
to
that
and
introduce
to
the
motion.
G
Okay,
thank
you
councilman.
Does
everyone
have
a
copy
of
it
or
should
I
read
it
I'll
I'll
read
it.
G
So,
whereas
the
national
children's
botanical
garden
of
canada
is
a
registered
charity
seeking
to
construct
a
year-round
education
and
activity
hub,
providing
programming
for
children,
youth
families
and
adults
focused
on
improving
the
health
of
communities
in
the
planet
and
engaging
residents
on
issues
like
climate
change,
food
security
and
environmental
sustainability.
G
And
whereas
this
project
proposed
project
would
have
important
social
and
environmental
benefits,
including
the
creation
of
a
community
gathering
space
connecting
people
through
food,
enhancing
food
literacy
and
promoting
sustainability
practices.
And
whereas
the
affiliate
facility
being
proposed
would
also
be
certified
to
a
high
level
aiming
to
produce
more
energy
than
they
consume
and
offset
carbon
emissions.
And,
whereas
sorry
that's
my
place.
And
whereas
the
proposed
project
aligns
with
city
of
ottawa,
plans
to
build
a
greener,
more
inclusive
and
healthier
city,
including
the
city
of
ottawa's,
climate
change,
master
plan
and
new
official
plan.
G
And
whereas
the
ncbg
is
seeking
to
lease
national
capital.
Commission
land
at
39,
3798
bank
street,
to
conduct
the
construct
the
proposed
project
and
whereas
a
professionally
consulted
viability.
Study
is
an
ncc
lease
condition
and
whereas
the
ncbg
is
seeking
financial
assistance
from
the
federation
of
canadian
municipalities,
green
municipal
fund
for
the
cost
of
the
viability
study
estimated
at
sixty
thousand
dollars
and
whereas
an
endorsement
from
city
council
is
required
in
order
for
the
ncbg
to
be
eligible
for
funding
from
the
federation
of
canadian
municipalities.
G
Green
municipal
fund,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
wastewater
management
recommend
that
council
approve
that
the
mayor
write
a
letter
of
support
for
the
national
children's
botanical
garden
project.
On
behalf
of
the
city
of
ottawa,
the
city
council,
and
I
think
the
motion
really
speaks
for
itself.
It's
just
an
opportunity.
G
They
need
some
seed
funding
for
to
meet
the
ncc
requirements.
So
we're
just
asking
really
it's
just
a
letter
of
support
that
we're
asking
for.
At
this
point.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
yeah,
it's
it's
it's
a
requirement
of
the
program,
so
that's
why
we
would
be
here
to
to
endorse
that
or
have
council
endorse
that
when
there
was
a
letter
from
the
mayor
there
is
a
there
is
a
piece
where
we're
working
on
we've
identified
the
opportunity
for
six
thousand
dollars
from
the
city
to
be
able
to
go
with
this,
which
is
ten
percent
of
the
of
the
requests.
A
D
Here's
just
to
note
on
the
agenda.
There
is
item
five
motion
by
councillor
king
phasing
out
yeah
right.
I
don't
think.
A
You
no
it's
funny.
It
was
yeah
sorry,
it
was
the
way
that
the
the
way
that
the
agenda
was
structured.
It
was
it's
stuck
down
below
it,
stuck
down
below
the
information
previously
distributed.
Sorry
with
that,
so
we'll
go
yeah
so
item
five,
two,
but
we'll
just
hold
that
item,
because
I
imagine
we'll
we'll
let
counselor
king
speak
to
that.
So
we'll
just
go
back
to
the
top
yeah.
Sorry,
the
way
that
the
agenda
structure
in
front
of
me
goes
four.
A
Then
it
goes
in
camera
items
and
then
five
is
down
below
that.
So
I
missed
it.
Thank
you,
john
okay,
so
item
one
was
that
referral
from
our
official
planned
discussion
where
counselor
lee,
probably
after
counselor
fleury,
brought
forward
a
motion
that
asked
two
things
specifically
it.
A
The
motion
was
referred
to
this
committee
for
consideration
to
direct
staff
to
study
and
develop
additional
mitigation
measures
which
offer
incentives
for
new
and
existing
buildings,
and
the
second
portion
was
that
the
mitigation
measures,
incentives,
study
b,
a
aligned
with
the
community
improvement
plan
review,
expect
to
be
considered
by
council,
2023
and
b
aligned
with
the
high
performance
development
standards
to
help
alleviate
costs
which
occur
while
achieving
net
zero
climate
change
focused
buildings.
So
this
is
obviously,
as
we
all
know,
the
high
performance
development
standard
is
currently
working
its
way
through
committee
and
council.
A
So
what
I've
asked
staff
to
do
today?
This
is
this:
is
a
it's
an
item
that
we
can
we
can
receive.
We
can
receive
this
this
referral.
There
isn't
necessarily
an
action
item
here.
So
what
I've
asked
staff
to
do
is
provide
us
an
update
on
these
that
matters.
You
know
what's
what's
to
be
considered,
how
does
it
fit
in?
We
know
that
there's
the
request
for
the
motion
speaks
to
additional
mitigation
measures,
additional
incentives
to
be
able
to
manage
these.
A
These
issues,
that's
what
the
discussions
stem
from.
I
think
we
had
the
discussion
again
at
council
when
we
were
debating
the
budget
in
december,
so
just
yeah
asking
staff
here
just
for
an
update
with
regard
to
this
motion
and
how
it
plays
into
the
both
the
high
performance,
dylan
standards
and
the
community
improvement
plan
review,
which
is
to
be
coming
in
2023..
A
I
think
we
have
becca
higgins
going
to
be
providing
this
update
for
us
yeah.
That's.
H
So
there
have
been
a
few
projects
in
place
to
advance
incentives
for
buildings
at
the
city.
First,
off
energy
evolution
included
the
creation
of
the
energy.
The
energy
community
improvement
plan
is
one
of
its
20
priority
projects.
H
The
high
performance
development
standard
is
going
to
cancel
on
april
13th
of
2022
and
was
approved
at
planning
committee
on
march
10th
and
is
also
going
to
iraq
on
april
7th
and
as
part
of
the
high
performance
development
standard.
We've
included
a
high
level
overview
of
incentive
options,
with
recommendations
to
report
back
in
q2
of
2023.
H
H
So
in
terms
of
incentive
options,
community
improvement
plans
are
one
of
them.
Local
improvement
charges
similar
to
the
better
homes
loan
program
is
another
development
charge.
Refunds
is
another
option
that
was
used
in
the
city
of
toronto
for
the
toronto
green
standard
awards
and
marketing
is
a
non-financial
incentive
option,
as
well
as
within
land
sales
and
funding
agreements.
H
The
incentive
program
may
be
a
combination
for
the
high
performance
development
standard.
Maybe
a
combination
of
these
types
of
incentives
structured
to
best
target
the
type
of
development.
That's
under
consideration
for
the
project
next
slide.
H
So
preliminary
steps
are
underway
on
the
development
of
an
incentive
program
for
the
high
performance
development
standard
working
with
staff
who
are
leading
the
cip
review
and
the
better
homes
better,
better
homes,
loan
program,
the
better
buildings
ottawa
program.
Next
steps
include
completing
a
musical
scan
of
incentives,
available
identifying
regulatory
barriers
and
opportunities,
identifying
funding
sources
aligning
with
the
city,
cip,
review
for
q2
of
2023,
completing
consultation
with
key
stakeholders
in
the
public
and
developing
the
proposed
incentive
program
for
q2
of
2023,
and
that's
it
so.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
so
much
becca
for
that
certainly
plenty
to
come
next
term
and
right
in
2023
we're
not
going
to
give
the
next
term
of
council
any
any
time
to
breathe.
We're
gonna
just
dive
right
into
it
with
a
lot
of
this
stuff.
So
I
appreciate
any
any
questions
on
that.
Obviously,
a
lot
of
stuff
is
to
be
discussed
as
we
get
to
it
when
it
comes
to
next
term,
but
council
hubley.
D
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
want
to
check
with
becca
to
see
if
there's
any
update
on
the
costs
that
these
measures
would
apply
to
new
housing
in
the
area.
The
committee
we
talked
about
it
in
the
range
was
one
to
ten
percent
which
could
put
us
in
the
hundred
thousand
or
sorry
the
ten
thousand
dollar
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
range.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
she's
got
any
update
on
that.
H
We
are
working
on
sort
of
a
nice
outline
document
that
will
be
distributed
as
part
of
the
memo
to
council.
So
that's
currently
a
draft
form
and
should
be
coming
shortly.
So
I
think,
that's
kind
of
going
to
be
the
best
way
to
be
able
to
give
a
good
estimate
on
the
cost
that
breaks
it
down
by
the
different
development
types,
because
it's
going
to
vary
between
single-family
homes
and
commercial
developments
and
all
those
types
of
things.
D
A
Thanks
now
just
be
clear:
we're
not
voting
on
the
high
performance
cell
and
standards
today.
This
is
just
an
update
on
on
what
that
is,
and
what
that
leads
to
from
the
motion
from
from
october.
The
high
foreign
standards
will
next
go
to
at
coastal
affairs
committee
on
april
7th
and
then
to
council
april
13th,
but
we're
not
voting
on
anything
today.
For
that.
D
Okay,
thank
you
chair.
Just
I
like
to
know
put
it
on
the
record
that
I
have
concerns
with
the
impacts
to
cost
the
new
housing
here,
and
we
should
be
looking
at
how
we
can
mitigate
that.
So
thank
you.
A
A
All
right
any
other
questions,
a
cancer
flurry.
Are
you
satisfy
that
approach,
you're
good
cause?
That
was
your
emotion
in
the
first
place.
Great.
Thank
you
so
much
all
right
so
on
item.
One
then,
can
we
receive
that's
referral?
Save.
Thank
you
move
to
item
two
again
item
two
and
three.
We
don't
have
any
delegations
today.
We
have
any
submissions
but
just
important
to
get
some
updates
to
some
of
these
things
that
are
going
on
at
the
city.
So
item
two
is
a
community
energy
innovation
fund,
summary
report.
I
A
I
Thank
you,
I
believe,
there's
a
presentation,
perfect
thanks
chris
so
perfect.
So
thank
you,
chair
and
good
morning
to
all
members
of
committee,
I'm
here
to
provide
a
brief
overview
of
the
community
energy
innovation
fund.
Next
slide.
Please.
I
So
we'll
start
off
with
the
report
recommendations,
the
report
recommends
that
committee
recommend
that
council
receive
the
summary
report
for
the
community
energy
innovation
fund,
approve
the
spending
plan
for
the
216
775
dollar,
unspent
funds
from
the
community
energy
innovation
fund
and
transfer
the
associated
budget
from
the
funds
account
to
energy
evolution
and
suspend
the
rules
procedure
to
consider
this
report
at
its
meeting
of
march
23
2022
due
to
time
sensitivity
next
slide.
Please.
I
So
the
community
energy
innovation
fund,
or,
as
we
like
to
call
it
thief,
is
a
one-time,
500
000
grant
program
for
community-based
projects
that
support
the
goals
of
energy
evolution
and
it
ran
from
2018
to
2021.
Originally,
the
plan
was
for
the
program
to
end
in
2020.
However,
due
to
the
pandemic,
some
of
the
the
projects
were
impacted
and
the
timeline's
required
extensions.
I
I
would
also
like
to
acknowledge
the
city's
building
engineering
and
energy
management
group
who
provided
significant
support
on
the
project
ottawa.
Community
housing
installed,
565
in-unit,
programmable
thermostats
within
five
of
their
buildings,
and
this
was
supported
by
attendant
engagement,
outreach
program
on
energy
usage
and
conservation,
which
included
lobby
displays
in
each
of
the
buildings
to
demonstrate
the
building's
utility
consumption
and
energy
savings.
I
And
finally,
the
ra
center
completed
a
feasibility
study
to
explore
options
to
replace
the
high
temperature
hot
water
district
heating
loop,
which
currently
heats
a
portion
of
the
ra
center.
It
is
proposed
that
the
existing
systems
will
be
replaced
by
boilers
fueled
by
renewable
natural
gas.
Next
slide.
I
Next
slide,
so
key
takeaways
from
the
program,
the
five
completed
projects
were
were
very
successful
in
achieving
their
original
intent.
I
would
say:
having
worked
closely
with
many
of
the
funding
recipients,
they
demonstrated
a
high
level
of
commitment
to
their
projects
and,
in
some
cases,
significant
flexibility
to
pivot
during
the
pandemic.
I
I
I
would
also
say
that
since
council
approved
this
funding
back
in
2017,
there's
been
a
significant
advancement
in
information
and
action
regarding
mitigating
climate
change.
I
If
we
look
at
energy
evolution,
staff
have
since
completed
since
the
launch
of
sorry,
since
the
launch
of
chief
have
completed
energy
emissions
modeling,
which
identified
areas
for
significant
emission
reductions,
and
this
can
include
retrofitting
existing
residential
and
commercial
buildings.
Electrifying
personal
vehicles
and
electrifying
commercial
fleets,
and
so
staff
are
starting
to
implement
some
of
those
priority
projects
such
as
launching
the
better
homes,
auto
loan
program,
which
targets
retrofits
and
residential
buildings.
I
I
So,
for
those
reasons,
staff
do
not
recommend
continuing
with
a
program
comparable
to
the
community
energy
innovation
fund
staff
will
continue
to
support
working
with
senior
levels
of
government
utilities
and
community
partners
such
as
those
that
we
mentioned
in
the
staff
report
to
accelerate
private
action
and
community
projects.
We
also
anticipate
that
any
newly
proposed
city-led
grants
loans,
financing
tools.
I
Incentives
will
be
structured
to
support
specific
climate
change,
master
planning
priorities,
including
energy
evolution
projects,
and
this
would
help
alleviate
some
of
the
challenges
intended
to
be
addressed
through
cf
ensure
that
funds
are
aligned
to
achieving
the
climate
change
master
plan
priorities
and
really
target
that
funding
to
actionaries,
with
the
biggest
submission
reductions
next
slide.
Please.
I
So,
as
mentioned
at
the
at
the
outset,
eight
projects
in
total
received
funding,
of
which
three
are
sorry
which
five
were
completed.
This
unfortunately
meant
that
three
of
the
projects
could
not
be
completed
due
to
outstanding
circumstances,
so
216
775
dollars
was
returned
to
the
city
we
are,
as
as
opponent
funding
requires
approval
by
canadian
council
to
re,
reallocate
the
funds
to
other
energy
efficiency
projects.
I
I
Sorry
to
help
those
buildings
become
more
energy,
efficient
and
we'd
also
be
looking
to
develop
a
financing
program
for
commercial,
industrial
and
multi-unit
residential
buildings
offer
long-term
fixed
interest
rate
financing
for
energy
retrofits
of
buildings,
and
the
financing
program
would
be
tied
to
the
property
through
the
local
improvement
charge,
similar
to
how
the
better
homes
auto
load
program
is
run.
In
all
cases,
the
funding
is
for
all
project
related
costs
and
staff
have
identified
opportunities
to
leverage
funding
from
the
federation
of
canadian
municipalities
green
municipal
fund.
I
A
J
Thank
you
chair
thanks
for
that
presentation.
J
I
was
interested
in
in
all
of
the
projects,
of
course,
but
the
thermal
scans
in
community
buildings
in
in
particular,
it
just
seems
to
me
that
we
should
almost
be
able
to
identify
the
the
savings
from
that,
and
I
just
wonder
in
the
the
budget
that
you
put
forward,
why
only
you
considered
only
50
000
to
be
directed
to
to
that
to
that
program
and
not
not
much
more,
maybe
three
four
times
as
much
keep
it
at
the
500,
000
and
and
and
direct
that
kind
of
money
to
to
the
savings
that
that
we
need
to
see
in
the
community.
I
K
Thank
you
for
the
the
question
counselor.
It's
really
just
a
question
of
limited
funds,
we're
working
within
the
the
previous
funding
envelope
from
this
particular
program
and
the
funding
left
over,
which
is
currently
unallocated,
tops
out
at
about
216
000.
So
to
balance
the
priorities
that
we
have
to
move
collectively
on
all
of
all
of
these
pieces,
we've
we've
carved
out
50
000.,
there's,
certainly
an
opportunity
to
do
more
and
we
have
submitted
an
application
to
the
federation
of
canadian
municipalities.
K
Hopefully
to
do
more.
We
also
if
it's
the
will
of
council
would
certainly
consider
that
in
future
budget
pressures,
so
that
we
can
start
to
scale
up
this
kind
of
work
and
this
kind
of
work
and
the
results
through
this
work
will
help
inform
things
like
the
community
improvement
program
and
the
bitter
better
buildings
ottawa
strategy
which
we're
working
on
as
well.
J
Yeah
absolutely-
and
I
just
wonder,
would
the
so
I
think
it
was
me-
and
maybe
it
was
myself
and
and
chair
moffett,
who
brought
a
motion.
J
K
That
is
certainly
possible,
we're
hoping
that
we
will
have
a
response
from
fcn
before
that
report
comes
forward
likely
in
june.
That's
the
energy
and
emissions
fund
motion.
I
think
you're,
referring
to
yes
yeah,
so
we're
hoping
that
we'll
have
a
response
from
fcm
about
the
better
buildings
program
and
the
funding
requests
we've
made
for
that
and
if
it's,
if
we're
not
successful
with
that
funding
application,
then
certainly
it
would
be
considered
as
part
of
the
energy
and
emissions
fund
and
or
the
one
million
dollar
capital
close
out,
which
councils.
J
Brought
forward
exactly
exactly
okay
and
just
a
last
quick
question:
when
do
you
expect
any
word
on
the
fcm
application.
K
Unfortunately,
that's
difficult
to
judge
we've
we've
been
told
that
we
we
would
have
answers
before
now.
Our
current
best
estimate
is
the
end
of
this
month,
so
I
think
for
for
safety,
we'll
say
april
and
we'll
certainly
keep
folks
abreast
of
the
the
answer
to
that
happy
to
provide
an
update
to
you
counselor,
if
you're
specifically
interested
in
the
outcome
of
that.
J
Yeah,
I
am
so
yeah
I'd
love
to
I'd
like
to
hear
when,
when
you
do.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
thanks,
jan
and
andrea,
and
thanks
chair.
B
You
councilman
erd.
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
I
just
wanted
to
to
say
the
the
projects
these
are
being
returned
to
to
top
up
on
the
the
position
for
the
energy
evolution
implementation.
The
thermal
scans
for
non-profit
buildings
and
development
of
local
improvement
charge
program
are
are
all
welcome.
They
seem
like
good
projects
and
make
sense.
B
I
think,
last
night,
at
the
cafes
agm
there
was
a
discussion
about
the
the
climate
action
fund
in
toronto
and
a
small
grant
program
which
focuses
on
on
organizing
for
climate
action
in
low-income
communities
and
so
the
the
equity
focus
of
energy
evolution
that
exists
now.
Is
there
anything
comparable?
B
We
could
offer
as
we
phase
out
the
community
energy
innovation
fund,
and
when
I
say
that
I
mean
things
like
you
know.
Does
the
newly
established
ottawa
climate
action
fund
have
an
explicit
focus
on
equity?
B
If
not,
what
are
ways
we
could
better
support,
underserved
communities
and
then
just
also
on
the
I
know
it's
a
lot,
but
on
the
community
environmental
projects
grant
program.
We've
had
that
for
a
long
time.
I
think
since
1997
and
it
stayed
at
50
000.
B
I
think
that's
kind
of
a
separate
pot,
but
I
think
it
was
tied
to
inflation
last
year,
but
is
that
something
that
could
serve
to
to
give
similar
results?
That
we've
seen
with
the
climate
action
fund
in
toronto,
which
really
invests
in
communities
and
gets
them
to
do
local
action
on
their
own.
K
I'll
start
there
there
is
a
lot
to
unpack
there.
If
I
miss
anything,
please
ask
again
on
the
first
piece:
how
are
we
inventing
equity
within
our
current
programs
through
energy
evolution
as
we
develop
programs?
K
We
recently
compiled
a
list
of
equity
considerations
through
our
work
and
would
be
happy
to
share
that
with
you,
councilman
bernard,
if
you're,
if
you're
interested
in
terms
of
the
ottawa
climate
action
fund,
they
do
have
an
explicit
focus
on
equity.
They
received
a
grant
through,
I
believe,
environment,
canada
and
climate
change
to
establish
an
equity
and
climate
inclusion
leaders
table.
K
So
over
the
last
year
year
and
a
half,
they
have
been
working
with
a
number
of
partners,
including
a
college
ottawa
cowie,
a
number
of
others
to
identify
equity-seeking
groups
and
present
a
series
of
workshops
on
climate
issues
with
them.
We've
done
a
couple
of
presentations
with
them
or
attended
a
couple
of
their
events
and
we're
hopeful
that
those
perspectives
will
continue
to
inform
or
collective
work,
both
internal
and
external
and
then
in
terms
of
the
toronto
example.
K
K
Or
perhaps
dawn
her
wire,
if
he's
there.
D
Andrew,
could
you
sorry
repeat
the
the
question
or
the
issue.
B
I
can
I
can.
I
can
speak
to
it,
andrea.
That
was
a
really
good
summary
of
what
I
went
through
memorized
very
well,
thank
you,
but
on
the
yeah
on
the
community
environmental
projects
grant
program,
we
we
haven't
seen
an
increase
to
the
amount
offered
through
that
I
know
it's
remained
virtually
the
same
at
fifty
thousand
dollars
since
1997.
I
believe
I
think
it
was
tied
to
the
cost
of
inflation
in
two
in
2021.
B
I'm
wondering
if
this
can
be
a
vehicle
for
grant
projects
in
in
neighborhoods
that
traditionally
wouldn't
necessarily
engage
on
this
without
some
some
assistance
and
one
of
the
ideas
I
wanted
to
bring
forward
conceptually
to
this
is:
is
you
utilizing
some
of
those
funds
to
to
purchase
led
bulbs,
a
simple
thing
that
is
very,
very
effective
to
reduce
emissions
and
to
reduce
costs
for
people
in
their
apartment,
buildings
and
their
homes,
and
so
and
and
just
giving
them
to
people
purchasing
them
through
a
grant
program
and
providing
them
to
people
door
to
door?
B
It's
one
of
the
most
effective
and
easy
ways
you
can
save
on
costs
and
lower
emissions.
So
I'm
thinking
of
things
like
that
in
lower
income
communities
that
may
not
be
inclined
or
have
assistance
to
be
able
to
to
purchase
you
know
more
expensive,
led
bulbs
that
can
really
make
a
difference
for
our
energy
mix.
That's
just
an
example,
but
I'd
love
to
hear
more
about
the
community
environmental
projects
grant
program
separately.
D
Not
certain
it's
the
best
vehicle,
but
we
can
look
at
options
in
terms
of
you
know
so
happy
to
have.
B
Okay,
I'll
take
it
offline
with
you
folks,
I
think
there's
there's
ideas
like
that
that
are
just
community
oriented
ideas.
I
know
we
previously
had
kind
of
a
light
bulb
program
by
another
community
organization.
There's
things
like
that
that
I
think
we
really
need
to
start
incentivizing
in
auto
a
little
bit
more
they're,
not
that
expensive
they
can
be
done
fairly
cheaply
and
again
they
save
costs
for
people
on
the
other
end,
while
lowering
our
emissions
so
we'll
take
I'll.
Take
it
up
offline
thanks.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
I
thank
you
don.
Thank
you,
andrea
for
those
answers
as
updated.
I
I'm
on
the
auto
climate
action
fund
advisory
board.
I
at
our
last
meeting
I
mentioned
to
steve
winkelmann,
who
is
the
executive
director
vocaf?
That's
he
could
come
to
this
committee
at
some
point
and
run
an
update.
I
know
he's
reached
out
to
me.
I
haven't
connected
with
him.
A
You
know
they're
a
neutral
body,
they're
kind
of
like
the
switzerland
of
of
climate
action
in
in
ottawa,
but
they're
working
with
all
parties,
including
the
city
as
a
partner,
and
I
think
it's
important
to
hear
from
them
and
for
them
to
be
able
to
explain
some
of
what
they
do
and
what
they're
focused
on
it's
something
that's
borne
out
of
the
ottawa
community
foundation.
I
know
rebecca
aaron
has
been
involved
quite
heavily
with
with
the
group
as
well
so,
and
they
do
have
like
andrea
mentioned
the
ottawa
climate
equity
equity
initiative.
A
So
I
think
that
would
fall
right
on
in
line
with
what
councilman
was
was
referring
to
so
I've
I'm
going
to
connect
with
steve
and
we'll
try
to
see
if
I
can
fit
them
should
be
able
to
on
to
maybe
the
april
agenda
if
they're,
able
and
willing
to
to
come
to
that
committee
and
then
just
again
just
for
an
update,
provide
us
with
a
presentation
on
what
they're
working
on.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
on
this
file.
A
See
none
so
we
do
have.
I
didn't
say
it's
not
tape,
but
it's
actually
more
than
that.
So
I
do
have
a
report
recommendation
in
front
of
us
so
that
the
stand
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
recommend
that
council
one
receive
the
summary
report
for
the
community
energy
innovation
fund.
A
Two
approve
the
spending
plan
for
the
216
775
000
of
unspent
funds
from
community
energy
innovation
fund
and
transfer
the
associated
budget
from
the
ceif
account
to
energy
evolution
and
three
suspended
rules
of
procedure
to
consider
this
report
at
its
meeting
of
march
23rd
2022
aka
tomorrow,
due
to
time
sensitivity
on
that
report,
is
that
carried
carry
great?
Thank
you.
A
So
now
we
move
on
to
another
updates
on
an
important
project
in
the
city,
the
rain,
ready
ottawa
program
and
just
propose
some
proposed
revisions
to
the
grants
program.
Apparently
it's
been
incredibly
successful
and
we
need
to.
We
need
to
manage
that
so
simon
greenland
smith,
I
see,
is
here,
I
think,
to
to
talk
to
us
about
this.
C
Thank
you,
chair
can
cameron,
hear
me.
Okay,.
C
I
appreciate
the
posting
of
the
presentation
good
morning,
chair
and
counselors.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
today.
My
name
is
simon,
greenland
smith
and
I'm
an
outreach
and
communications
coordinator
in
the
climate
change
and
resiliency
section
of
bread.
I
also
have
the
privilege
of
coordinating
rain
ready,
audible,
our
city's
rain
water
management
program
for
residential
private
property.
C
C
Brain
ready
ottawa
is
a
three-year
pilot
that
aims
to
help
residents,
take
action
on
private
property
to
improve
stormwater
management
in
audubon.
Our
work
arises
from
and
is
informed
by,
the
ottawa
river
action
plan
and
the
stormwater
retrofit
plans
from
the
pinecrest
creek
and
westborough
area,
as
well
as
the
eastern
sub-watersheds.
C
Both
of
these
reports
found
that
managing
rainwater,
where
it
lands,
is
an
important
part
of
the
city's
plan
to
manage
stormwater
and
that
private
actions
can
make
a
significant
contribution
to
this
goal.
Next
slide.
Please
brain
ready
ottawa
has
four
main
elements:
an
industry,
training
and
certification
program
that
builds
industry
capacity
to
reach
long-term
targets,
a
home
assessment
program
that
puts
customized
advice
into
the
hands
of
residents,
a
community
engagement
program
designed
to
increase
uptake
in
privacy
neighborhoods
and
a
grants
and
contributions
program
that
seeks
to
reduce
financial
barriers
that
many
residents
face.
C
C
C
Please,
the
first
year
of
operation,
rain,
ready
ottawa,
delivered
successful
training
sessions
to
landscape
professionals.
We
installed
the
demonstration
rain
garden
and
we
approved
22
applications
worth
about
75
000
in
rebates,
although
we
have
only
seen
22
applications
to
date.
This
is
not
out
of
the
ordinary
for
the
first
year
of
a
program,
and
we
expect
the
number
of
applications
approved
to
dramatically
increase
in
2022
as
residents
get
around
to
applying
for
rebates.
C
After
having
home
assessments
completed
in
late
2021,
which
was
an
abbreviated
season,
as
we
got
the
program
off
the
ground
next
slide,
please
I'd
like
to
focus
in
on
the
home
assessment
program
for
a
second,
the
home
assessment
program
is
very
popular.
We
delivered
116
home
assessments
in
the
first
year
of
operation
and
the
waiting
list
for
home
assessments
now
exceeds
650..
C
The
purpose
of
the
report
before
you
today
is
to
address
this
backlog
through
the
use
of
an
e-learning
program
that
teaches
the
same
concepts
as
the
home
assessment
program.
It
will
also
allow
residents
to
become
eligible
for
rain
ready
ottawa
rebates.
C
We
anticipate
that
many
residents
on
the
waiting
list
currently
on
the
waiting
list
or
home
assessments
will
be
enthusiastic
about
the
learning
the
e-learning
program
and
take
themselves
off
the
waiting
list
in
order
to
become
eligible
for
rebates
in
a
quicker
way.
Next
slide.
C
Four
courses
will
be
offered,
including
a
required
program
intro
and
overview
course,
and
optional
courses
for
each
of
the
practices
that
can
be
completed
by
residents
without
the
help
of
a
certified
professional
courses
will
launch
in
late
spring
and
are
being
created
by
staff
course.
Enrollment
is
free
for
residents,
regardless
of
where
they
live
in
ottawa,
but
a
res
an
ottawa
address
will
be
required
for
enrollment.
C
C
C
In
summary,
the
changes
proposed
in
the
report
add
the
completion
of
e-learning
courses
as
an
eligibility
requirement
for
rain-ready
ottawa
rebates.
This
will
result
in
three
ways
to
become
eligible.
The
program
as
it
exists
today
offers
two
ways
and
a
third
way
will
help
us
address
the
home
assessment,
backlog
and
expedite
eligibility
for
rebates,
which
will
improve
service
to
residents
next
slide.
Please
here,
I'd
just
like
to
thank
you.
For
your
time,
I'm
joined
by
julia
robinson
and
jen
nielsen
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
A
M
A
M
So
a
couple
of
things:
first
of
all,
my
ward
was
the
recipient
of
the
demo
rain
garden
and
it's
it's
been
very
well
received
and
a
lot
of
community
interest
in
in
setting
it
up
and
maintaining
it.
So
so
thank
you
to
the
team
for
helping
that
to
to
happen.
M
One
of
the
concerns
that
I've
heard
from
residents
is
the
assessments
are
great
lots
of
valuable
information
being
shared
lots
of
good
ideas
as
to
how
to
improve
a
person's
property,
but
another
bottleneck
seems
to
be
in
finding
accredited
contractors
to
do
the
work.
So
I'm
hearing
from
people
we
had
the
assessment
got
some
great
ideas.
We
went
to
market
can't,
find
anybody
who's
actually
qualified
to
do
the
work.
M
So
I'm
wondering
if,
if
I'm
just
hearing
that
or
if
that's
something
you're
hearing
as
well
in
a
more
general
way
and
if,
if
there's
been
any
thought
as
to
how
to
bring
more
contractors
on
board,
so
that
people
can
go
more
quickly
from
assessment
to
work
being
done.
C
Thanks
for
the
question
counselor,
yes,
so
we
have
a
certification
and
training
program
called
fusion
landscape,
professional.
So
for
residents
who
want
to
hire
a
landscape
professional
to
help
them
with
their
project
and
become
eligible
for
rebates,
they
have
to
choose
a
fusion
landscape
professional.
C
We
imported
that
program
from
peel
and
york
regions
and
we
started
delivering
it
here
in
ottawa.
In
the
first
year,
we
trained
up
nine
companies
that
can
now
deliver
service
on
behalf
of
residents
and
in
the
second
year
we've
delivered.
We
delivered
the
training
again
and
I
believe
there
will
be
six
additional
companies
that
will
be
able
to
help
residents
out
with
their
requests.
C
M
Okay-
and
I
appreciate
that
we
have
that
program,
and
is
there
a
way
to
make
the
list
of
as
you
keep
adding
to
it
right
is:
is
there
a
way
to
to
make
that
more
accessible
to
residents,
so
they
they
know
exactly
where
they
should
be
looking.
C
And
the
list
is
available
at
the
fusion
landscape
professional
website
which
our
website
ottawa.ca
slash.
Rain
refers
to
so
we
don't
list
the
companies
individually,
but
we
do
list
the
certification
and
we
do
what
we
can
to
promote
that.
But
we.
M
N
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
This
is
a
a
great
program
and
I
hope
we
have
the
capacity.
My
concern
is
is
that
it
was
pretty
booked
up
for
the
assessments,
and
I
just
hope
that
we're
not
a
victim
of
our
own
success
and
that
we
can
keep
up
with
it.
Are
we
looking
to
hire
more
people
to
do
the
home
assessments
because,
obviously
they're
time-consuming
and
that's
another
backlog
issue?
N
I
was
at
the
mckellar
park
meeting
and
I
certainly
would
like
to
see
more
of
them
in
my
area,
because
it's
right
on
the
pinecrest
creek
area
so
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can.
We
can
handle
the
popularity.
C
Thank
you,
counselor.
In
a
way,
we
are
a
victim
of
our
own
success
here,
but
this
is
really
good
news,
both
in
the
first
year
and
now
in
our
second
year
of
delivery,
we've
added
home
assessment
slots,
so
we
provided
more
home
assessments
than
we
initially
planned.
So
that's
one
way
that
we're
responding
to
the
backlog
and
the
popularity
of
the
home
assessment
program.
C
But
the
second-
and
we
think
this
is
an
important
way-
is
to
add
the
self-guided
option
of
the
e-learning
program,
so
that
residents
who
want
to
get
eligible
for
rebates
as
quickly
as
possible
can
take
a
little
time
on
their
weekend,
go
through
it
at
their
pace
and
learn
all
that
they
need
to
know
and
become
eligible.
At
the
same
time,
we
were
a
bit
limited
in
how
many
home
assessments
we
can
deliver
because
they
are
expensive
to
deliver,
but
we
believe
that
the
advice
that
they're
giving
is
very
important
for
residents.
C
So
we
think
that
maintaining
the
home
assessment
program,
while
adding
the
e-learning
and
the
self-guided
option,
complement
each
other
nicely
and
we'll
provide
really
excellent
service
to
the
residents.
N
That
that's
great,
I
I
hope
to
have
more
sessions.
N
The
the
other
thing
I
think
is
good
to
emphasize
is
just
what
it
does
in
terms
of
the
environment
of
because
with
living
near
the
river
making
sure
people
understand,
that
means
less
of
that
storm
water
going
into
the
river
when
people
you
know
when,
when
we
soak
up
the
water-
and
I
I
think
it's
important
for
people
to
realize
that
that's
part
of
it
and
also
the
other
tie-in
is
is-
is
with
the
ditch
program,
which
is
an
important
program
as
well.
N
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
coordination
with
there,
but
we
we
have
whole
neighborhoods
with
ditches,
I'm
sure
councillor,
edelein
knows
what
I'm
talking
about.
He
has
it
as
well,
so
just
to
emphasize
those
areas
which
have
major
problems
with
drainage.
B
Thank
you
very
much
chair
great
success
on
this
program.
It's
really
nice
to
see.
Congratulations
and
happy
that
this
is
happening.
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
potential
extension
of
the
of
the
grant
portion
of
the
program.
I
just
I
wonder
what
the
current
thinking
is
there
in
terms
of
the
expansion,
presumably
a
larger
than
anticipated
update
in
assessments
will
result
in
larger
than
anticipated
demand
for
for
retrofit
incentives.
I
just
love
staff
thinking
on
the
extension
of
the
future
of
this.
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
question
we
have.
We
have
been
thinking
about
that
and
we
estimate
that
our
capacity
to
deliver
on
the
rebates
as
a
result
from
the
increased
number
of
home
assessment,
we
we
think
that
is
balanced
out
nicely.
C
Part
of
the
purpose
of
the
pilot
program
is
to
see
how
these
promotional
elements
and
the
eligibility
elements
contribute
to
the
end,
the
number
of
rebates.
So
I
think
we're
in
our
second
year.
I
think
we're
going
to
learn
a
lot
this
year
about.
You
know
how
many
people
who
get
home
assessments
end
up
applying
for
rebates.
So
we
look
forward
to
learning
that
and
then
we
will
be
coming
back
to
council
at
the
end
of
2022
with
a
report
and
some
recommendations
for
the
future.
C
But
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
key
time
period
to
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
learning
as
much
as
we
can
about
how
this
program
sort
of
plays
out.
A
B
A
And
thank
you,
simon
for
your
work
on
this
appreciate
the
time
taken
today
to
update
us
and
we
have.
We
do
have
a
recommendation
in
front
of
us
so
that
the
standing
committee
on
environmental
protection,
water
and
waste
management
recommend
council
approve
the
changes
to
the
rain.
Ready
ottawa
pilot
program,
as
described
in
this
report,
is
that
item
carried.
A
Thank
you
so
much
sorry
approve
number
four
and
we
will
move
then
to
item
five,
which
is
the
notice
that
was
well
that
sorry,
the
motion
that
notes
was
previously
given
back
in
2021
for
phasing
out
the
use
of
city
operated
gas,
powered,
lawn
and
yard
equipment,
and
I
know
councilor
king
has
worked
with
staff
on
this,
and
staff
are
amenable
to
this
motion.
That's
in
front
of
us,
I
will
turn
to
councillor
king
to
speak
to
it.
At
this
point,.
F
Thank
you
thank
you,
chair,
and
you
know
literally
the
morning
after
when
I
reflect
upon
this.
F
The
morning
after
I
was
elected
in
april
2019
on
my
way
to
be
sworn
in
as
a
new
counselor,
I
attended
a
rally
at
city
hall
in
support
of
the
declaration
of
a
municipal
climate
emergency
for
that
declaration
and
working
with
residents
to
identify
and
address
gaps
in
our
policies
to
accelerate
the
city's
emission
targets
has
really
been
a
key
priority
for
my
office
ever
since
that
first
day,
this
motion
is
a
result
of
resident
advocacy,
and
I
appreciate
the
support
of
staff
in
many
discussions
in
the
research
that
was
needed
to
eliminate
the
use
of
gas-powered
law
and
equipment
by
the
city
of
ottawa.
F
Another
excellent
example
of
resident
advocacy
that
staff
is
transforming
into
action,
also
includes
discussions
that
my
office
is
having
and
has
held
with,
both
ward
residents
and
staff
concerning
city
policies
and
bylaws
governing
gardening
and
intentional
naturalization
activities
in
the
city.
Right
of
way.
Both
my
office
and
city
staff
have
noted
an
increase
in
requests
from
residents
looking
to
plant
or
maintain
areas
in
city
right-of-way
in
a
more
sustainable
manner,
which
include
pollinator
gardens
as
well
as
native
plant
species.
F
So
I
just
really
am
mentioning
this,
because
I
wanted
to
recognize
the
time
and
effort
that
staff
have
dedicated
to
that
file
over
the
last
number
of
weeks,
but
to
return
to
this
motion
and
to
highlight
why
I'm
requesting
the
elimination
of
this
equipment,
it's
really
important,
because
small
off-road
engines
which
are
used
primarily
in
lawn
and
garden
equipment,
emit
high
levels
of
air
pollutants,
including
oxides
of
nitrogen,
reactive,
organic
gases
and
particulate
matter.
F
Scientific
research
has
determined
that
operating
a
single
commercial
gas
powered
leaf
blower
for
one
hour,
and
I
think
that
you
pointed
this
out
scott.
At
the
last
meeting
from
looking
at
some
of
the
research
that
was
available,
just
operating
one
single
commercial
gas
powered
leaf
blower
for
one
hour,
can
emit
as
much
nitrogen
oxide
and
reactive
organic
gas
emissions
as
driving
over
1700
kilometers
in
a
new
passenger
vehicle,
nitrogen
oxide
and
reactive
organic
gases
together
contribute
to
a
form
of
ozone.
F
A
critical
pollutant
that
affects
ambient
air
quality,
and
these
emissions
also
contribute
to
the
formation
of
particulate
matter
which,
along
with
directly
emitted
particulate
matter,
has
direct
negative
health
impacts.
It
therefore
makes
sense
for
the
city
to
adopt
zero
emission
equivalence
to
all
small
off-road
engine
equipment
as
quickly
as
possible.
The
battery
technology
required
for
commercial
grade
zero
emission
equipment
is
rapidly
becoming
available,
and
users
such
as
the
national
capital
commission
have
already
indicated
their
intention
to
transition
to
zero
emission
equipment.
F
The
city
and
the
ncc
combined
maintain
a
massive
amount
of
and
maintain
a
massive
amount
of
green
space
within
the
city
of
ottawa.
This
motion
works
to
improve
expectations
from
our
communities
and
lays
the
groundwork
for
a
broad
removal
of
this
equipment
from
our
neighborhoods,
as
other
municipalities
have
done
or
in
the
process
of
accomplishing
ottawa
is
known
for
its
beautiful
green
spaces,
but
maintaining
them
should
not
come
at
the
cost
of
the
health
of
our
community.
F
A
All
right,
thank
you.
I
will
just
ask
for
staff
comments
on
it
because
I
I
know,
like
I
said
I
know,
they're
supportive.
I
think
they
were
working
toward
something
similar,
so
I
know
allison
downs
this
year.
I
just
comment
on
the
staff's
position
on
this
and
and
their
their
work
with
the
counselor
on
it.
O
Yes,
we
are
supportive
of
the
motion
and
actually
quite
excited
to
get
the
pilot
started
and
get
the
testing
started
and
develop
a
departmental
green
plan
to
to
transition
to
the
electric
equipment.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
for
supporting
or
for
bringing
the
motion.
A
B
Thank
you
very
much
chair.
Thank
you
to
councillor
king
for
bringing
this
forward
and
getting
the
issue
on
the
agenda
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I'm
wondering
if
staff
can
just
talk
about
the
application
of
this
it
starts.
It
will
start
this
summer
with
a
report
back
in
q4
of
2022
and
it's
my
understanding
is.
It
would
apply
to
the
public
works
and
environmental
services
department.
B
O
Thank
you
for
that
question.
I
can
say
that
public
works
has
been
in
contact
with
other
departments
about
this,
and
we
do
believe
that
the
majority
of
the
equipment,
the
small
yard
and
lawn
equipment
is
in
public
works.
The
way
we're
designing.
The
pilot,
though,
will
will
allow
us
to
share
our
findings
with
other
departments
and
they'll
be
able
to
leverage
those
to
develop
their
own
transition
plans
where
they
see
necessary
or
that
they
have
the
similar
equipment.
B
O
I
I
can't
speak
for
my
partner
department,
but
I
do
believe
that
they,
some
of
them
are
here.
I
know
water
services
is
sorry
infrastructure
and
water
services
is
here,
and
I
see
our
cfs
as
well.
D
D
Some
of
our
equipment,
we've
already
converted
to
electric
some
counselors-
will
know
that
the
edge
trimmers
in
arenas,
for
example,
have
all
been
converted
to
to
electric,
and
it
is
our
plan
to
participate
in
this
and
to
to
be
part
of
the
initiative.
Even
though
we
have
certainly
less
equipment
than
public
works.
We
still
believe
that
it's
it's
a
good
initiative
and
that
we
should
participate
in
it.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
For
that
I
mean,
I
think
quick
transition
would
be
helpful
here.
It's
been
proven.
Lots
of
other
miss
valleys,
a
lot
of
other
places.
I
I
did
what's
the
practical
element
of
this,
so
how's
it
going
to
work
is.
Are
we
purchasing
a
bunch
of
new
equipment?
Do
we
have
a
lot
of
this
equipment
already
and
can
start
to
enact
them?
How
does
the
phase
of
the
old
equipment
work?
Where
does
it
go?
Just
the
practicalities
of
how
it'll
be
implemented.
O
So
year,
one
thank
you
for
the
question
year.
One
is
really
piloting
with
various
crews
in
parks
and
roads
and
parking
services,
and
then
we
will
be
able
to
learn
more
about
how
how
it
matches
our
operational
requirements
and
how
our
our
departmental
green
plan
will
actually
spell
out
more
clearly
how
and
quickly
how
fast
we
can
transition
and
that
that
we
expect
to
be
able
to
report
back
at
the
end
of
this
year.
B
O
B
Thank
you,
okay,
yes,
okay,
thank
you
for
that.
Other
cities
have
have
a
ban,
not
just
for
the
organization
but
for
the
population
at
large,
and-
and
I
wonder
obviously
this
would
be-
maybe
the
precipice
of
of
that.
I
just
wonder
in
staff's
view
in
terms
of
moving
in
that
direction,
as
some
other
cities
have
have
done,
will
will
your
report
that
comes
back
speak
to
a
city-wide
potential
phase-out,
or
will
it
just
be
focused
only
on
the
corporate
organization
side.
O
Thank
you
for
that
question
to
date,
the
way
that
we
were
addressing
the
motion
was
to
respond
back
with
the
department
green
plan
green,
so
it
was
really
focused
on
the
public
works
department.
B
Okay,
I
understand
that
I
think
chair,
if
it's
okay,
just
give,
if
I
give
direction
on
that
that
that
we
include
in
that
report
something
more
information
about
what
this
might
look
like
citywide
when
it
comes
back
so
that
we
can
see
other
cities
that
have
done
this,
what
that
would
entail
in
terms
of
bylaw,
I
think
that
would
help
just
given
the
the
direction
we're
going.
I
obviously
support
the
motion
and
counselor
king's
efforts
here.
B
I
think
it'd
be
helpful
for
us
just
for
next
term
of
council
to
know
what
it
would
entail
if
we're
looking
at
more
of
a
city-wide
change.
So
I
hope
I
can
give
that
that
direction
here
today.
If
staff
will
take
that
direction.
A
Yeah
also
was
that,
in
line
with
what
you
were
thinking
to
come
back
with.
O
Thank
you.
We
we're
definitely
doing
a
best
practice
review
and
we
can
add
to
that.
B
A
Thanks
this
committee
might
not
meet
in
q4
2022,
but
so
it
might
be
the
first
meeting
of
2023
just
because
the
election,
the
I
they
I
had
a
request
just
I
know
because
there's
other
there's
other
department,
heads
and
there's
other
folks
here,
dave
maskey,
who
is
the
deputy
chief
of
training
and
and
safety
with
auto
fire
services.
I
know
he
wanted
to
to
jump
in
so
go
ahead.
Dave.
D
Thanks
thanks,
mr
chair,
certainly
we're
looking
at
this
proposal
and
I'm
very
interested
to
see
what
comes
out
of
the
out
of
this
pilot
project
for
our
service.
Just
an
awareness
piece.
Our
service
has
close
to
300
of
these
devices
that
we
use
for
emergency
work
on
a
daily
daily
basis,
so
which
most
of
right
now
there
isn't
alternatives
available
for
for
that
emergency
work.
D
So
we
continue
to
look
at
alternatives
to
the
to
these
devices
for
our
service,
but
as
they
come
online,
but
right
now
there
aren't
a
lot
of
options
available
for
for
us
for
due
to
capacity
and
power
limitations
with
the
new
devices.
So
just
an
awareness
piece
there
for
for
committee.
A
Are
you
specifically
referring
to
leaf
blowers
or
gas
powered
equipment
in
general,
yeah.
D
As
priority
equipment
in
general,
the
two-stroke
card
equipment
in
general.
A
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
I
mean
obviously
that's
good
to
good
information
for
when
this
moves
forward
and
considering
all
all
aspects
of
it.
I
know
in
california's,
has
implemented
a
ban
of
the
sale
of
all
a
gas-powered
equipment
starting
in
2024.
Now,
that's
not
the
use
of
it.
A
That's
the
sale
of
it,
but
I
also
know
that
some
of
the
companies
makita,
for
instance,
is
actually
planning
to
transition
completely
away
from
gas
powered
equipment
just
as
a
as
a
corporate
initiative,
so
no
different
than
what
we're
hearing
from
chevrolet
and
ford
on
the
vehicle
side.
So
you
know
the
question
would
be:
who
gets
there
first?
Is
it
government
or
is
it
market
as
to
who
leads?
A
That's
that
change,
but
it
is,
it
is
coming
and
it
will
evolve
so
it,
but,
but
it
is
important
that
we
have
the
similar
replacement
equipment
for
especially
for
groups
like
ottawa
fire
to
make
sure
they
can
continue
doing
their
job
and
good
work
by
our
fire.
Yesterday
was
I
tweeted
out
something
saving
two
people
who
were
who
went
out
to
rescue
a
dog
on
the
on
the
river
in
manitek
and
and
the
whole
video
is
captured.
A
It's
quite
impressive,
of
the
auto
fire
jumping
in
and
saving
the
two
people
that
were
latched
on
to
to
an
ice,
ledge
and
then
going
out
and
saving
the
dog
as
well.
Who
was
headed
towards
the
the
the
dam
at
watson's
mill
so
appreciate
the
efforts
there
for
sure.
Certainly.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
We'll
move
on
to
councillor
kavanaugh.
N
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I
want
to
thank
councillor
king
for
this
initiative.
It's
great
timing.
I
I
had
received
concerns
from
residents
as
well
about
two-stroke
engines
being
used.
It
just
seems
so
ironic
when
we're
trying
to
do
so.
Many
other
measures
that
this
was
something
that
we
should
target.
So
I
really
really
appreciate
it.
I
think
it's
you
know
long
overdue,
and
I
and
I
appreciate
the
cooperation
from
staff
in
getting
to
those
goals
in
terms
of
parks
in
general.
Is
it
going
to
cause
a
a
another?
Look?
N
O
O
The
first
step
in
this
pilot
is
the
small
equipment.
We
are
also
doing
an
inventory
of
our
other
equipment,
such
as
mowers
and
and
and
other
equipment
as
well,
and
hopefully
that
will
also
be
part
of
our
transition
plan.
But
that
is
a
very
good
question.
Thank
you
for
that,
because
we
hadn't
planned
on
looking
at
reviewing
the
maintenance
quality
standards.
N
Yeah,
no,
I
think
sometimes
it's
thought
that
we
we
overdo
it
maybe,
and
that
one
and
the
other
aspect
that
annoys
people
is
the
noise,
the
noise
pollution
as
well.
I
I'm
not
an
expert
on
on
the
changeover,
but
is
that
going
to
be
reduced
as
well?
When
you
have
electric,
is
it
less
noisy.
O
Thank
you
for
the
question.
That's
what
the
the
research
says,
and
certainly
that
will
be
one
piece
of
our
criteria.
N
Okay,
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
as
well,
and
I
know
council
menards
already
mentioned
about
just
the
general
population.
I
think
people,
anybody
who
has
somebody
on
the
street
using
one
of
those
pieces
of
equipment.
They
certainly
know
it
and
so
noise
noise
pollution
is,
is
a
factor
as
well.
So
I
I
appreciate
it
though
it's
obviously
the
air
pollution
factor
is
is
big.
N
So
I,
when
I
think
about
next
steps
for
the
public,
it's
hard
to
get
people
to
change
habits,
but
I
like
the
idea
of
banning
the
sale
of
them,
because
that
will
prevent
people
from
keep
getting
new
ones.
It's
it's
hard
to
get
people
to
give
up
old
things,
but
eventually
we
can
phase
them
out.
So
hopefully
we
can
work
with
the
levels
of
government
on
that
because
I
think
that's
a
benefit
to
everybody.
N
So
perhaps
that
requires
a
letter
to
to
the
level
which
would
it
be
federal
or
provincial.
That
would
be
responsible
for
the
phase-out
of
it
was
mentioned
by
the
chair.
That
is
being
done
in
california.
But
here
would
that
be
a
provincial.
A
I'm
not
sure
I
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that.
Obviously,
governors
have
a
whole
different
array
of
powers
than
provincial
premiers
do
in
this
country.
So
I'd
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that
as
to
where
the
right
avenue,
for
that
would
be.
N
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea
for
us
to
to
push
for
that,
and
certainly
through
our
partnerships
with
amo
and
fcm,
to
discuss
that
so
that
it's
it's
uniform
that
we're
not
just
doing
it
here,
because
I
think
we
we're
on
to
something
that
is
really
important
in
terms
of
of
saving
our
environment
and
and
thanks
again
to
councillor
king
and
staff
on
their
work
on
this.
Thank
you.
A
E
Mr
cherry
you're,
like
this
morning,
you're
wide
awake,
allison
and
city
team
as
as
we've
heard
from
ottawa
fire
services,
and
I
appreciate
their
proactive
presence
today
and
and
speaking
on
the
matter.
I
wonder
how
comprehensive
we
are
as
a
city,
because
you
know:
there's
forestry,
there's,
there's
parks,
there's
public
works,
there's
a
bunch
of
it's
not
just
facilities,
and
I
appreciate
allison
you
and
dan's
presence
speaking.
I
wonder
how
does
it?
How
does
this
effort
breathe
across
the
organization,
including
through
procurement?
O
So,
thank
you
for
the
question
chair.
I
I'm
here
speaking
on
behalf
of
public
works,
so
that
includes
parks
and
forestry
is
my
service
area
and
I'm
also
working
with
quinton
levesque
for
roads
and
parking
services,
so
roads
in
specifically
road
maintenance.
So
I
can
say
that
we
are
doing
an
inventory
of
our
small
equipment
across
public
works
and
understanding
what
it
is
we
have
similar
to
what
eps
did
understanding
what
it
is.
O
We
have
and
testing
like
the
first
pilot
will
be
lawn
and
yard
equipment,
but
we're
not
going
to
stop
there.
We
want
to
understand
what
the
pilot
results
give
us
in
terms
of
battery
power
and
ability
to
meet
our
maintenance
quality
standards,
noise
pollution,
some
other
things
as
well.
The
criteria
that
we're
testing
hasn't
actually
been
spelled
out
yet,
but
those
are
the
type
of
things
we're
looking
at
and
then
we're
going
to
understand
what
our
inventory
is
and
how?
O
How
can
we
transition
so
that
actually,
everything
will
eventually
be
included
to
your
point.
With
respect
to
forestry,
forestry
has
started
to
use
some
electric
equipment,
but
really
their
equipment.
O
Of
course,
we
will
keep
an
eye
on
that
and
because
our
plan
is
to
is
to
make
the
change
when
operationally
feasible
we're
thinking
that
in
parks
with
the
the
small
yard
and
lawn
equipment,
we're
very
hopeful
that
the
technology
is
there,
but
we'll
know
more
when
we
do
pilot
and
then
like
I
said
we
will
be
sharing
our
results,
so
our
operational
results
with
our
partners
so
with
facilities,
for
example,
if
they're
using
similar
equipment-
and
you
know
if
our
use
required
five
hours
for
blowers-
I'm
not
so
sure
what
the
function
requirement
is
at
facilities,
but
our
testing
should
be.
E
E
There's
the
procurement
team
there's
the
finance
team,
so
it's
also
important
to
equip
those
those
groups
in
in
invalidating
those
objectives
right
before
approving
pos
and
before
approving
invoices
of
also
ensuring
that
we
had
we
have
this
transformative
review
underway
and
that
the
right
checks
and
balances
were
accounted
for
prior
to
making
a
purchase
or
future
purchases,
and
I
would
ask
this-
is
again
kind
of
a
a
a
further
direction
to
the
motion
would
be
to
me:
it's
not
an
xy
table.
E
It's
actually
a
a
almost
like
a
a
cubic
reflection,
which
is
it's
not
just
about
inventory
and
its
availability
to
electrify.
It's
also,
you
know,
prioritization
of
that
and
for
me
I
know.
Counselor
king's
motion
today
is
important
and,
and
many
counselors
agree
to
it.
E
We
have
to
understand
where
which
elements
are
most
important
if
we
are
using
propane
or
other
fuels
indoors,
and
I
make
mention
to
the
arena
specifically
because
I'm
extremely
concerned
by
the
ongoing
risk
in
our
arenas,
we
have
to
prioritize
as
well
where
our
attention
and
efforts
are.
The
other
point
is
we
have
to
be
take.
We
have
to
be
careful
of
as
an
organization
adopting
a
technology
that
will
set
up
set
us
up
for
failure,
and
I
will
refer
to
a
parallel
matter.
E
I
hate
in
this
organization
the
constant
reference
that
I
hear
about.
Hybrid
buses.
Oh,
do
you
remember
those
hybrid
buses?
They
failed
us.
Well,
hybrid
technology
has
continued
to
evolve,
while
our
thinking
has
remained
that
the
the
hybrid
system
has
failed
us.
So
I
hope
that
yes,
we're
early
adopters,
but
if
there's
lessons
learned
from
those
adoptions
that
we
also
don't
embed
that
that
those
challenges
within
the
organization,
I
recognize
I'm,
I'm
speaking
more
of
frustration
of
some
of
the
earlier
practices,
but
I
hope
that
going
forward.
E
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
It's
a
very
interesting
conversation
and
I
I
do
understand
where
counselor
king
is
coming
from,
and
I
do
I
respect
the
motion
mike
like
what
I
have
a
few
questions
to
staff.
One
of
is:
do
we
have
a
price
tag
on
our
pilot
on
our
pilot?
I
know
that
this
is
a
pilot,
but
at
least
do
we
have
an
idea
how
much
this
is
going
to
cost
or
how
much,
how
many
equipment
we're
facing.
O
Thank
you
for
the
question
chair.
The
pilot
is
we're
we're
going
to
pilot
three
or
four
crews,
we're
piloting,
blowers,
trimmers
and
small,
chainsaws
so
spring
trimmers
and
hedge
trimmers
for
each
crew
and
the
cost
is
in
around
the
40
to
50
000
range
like
we
haven't,
purchased
it.
Yet
we
put
it
on
an
rfq
request.
For
quote,
I
think
it
might
be
closed
in
mercs.
O
The
interesting
thing
is
it's
the
batteries
that
are
the
significant
cost,
so
it
it
is
an
upfront
capital
capital
cost
because
of
the
we
can't.
We
can't
just
buy
one
battery.
L
L
We
buy
those
always
from
home
people
and
you
buy
them
from
our
dealership
locally
and
there
is.
There
is
a
problem.
There
is
issues
with
time
from
staff
perspective.
There
is
battery
challenges.
I
don't
think
the
industry
is
there
and
we
can
challenge
on
that.
We
can
talk
as
much
as
you
want,
but
from
personal
perspective,
you
can
look
at
distill
a
line
up.
L
You
can
look
at
haskavana,
they
only
switch
to
battery
in
2017
and
when
you
send
the
crew
to
do
a
job,
we
heard
from
the
fire
department
that
yeah
when
they're
carrying
a
roof
of
a
car
you
need,
you
need
a
you,
need:
a
reliable
equipment
and
unfortunately,
the
two-stroke
equipment
that
we
have
right
now.
If
you
want
to
place
them
all
with
battery
first,
first
of
all,
kindly
you'll
not
be
you
won't
be
able.
So
we
have
to
be
careful.
L
What
we
ask
our
staff
and
what
we're
looking
for,
if
you're,
looking
on
a
small
small
park
in
the
downtown
core,
sure
yeah,
that's
fine,
but
if
you
take
a
land,
if
you
take
an
acre
or
half
acre
and
a
half
and
state
lot
in
rural
area,
talk,
stop
start
talking
about
phasing
gas
versus
battery
you're,
not
saving
anything
you're,
actually
creating
more
problems
with
buying
a
battery
and
disposing
batteries,
and
when
you
send
the
crew
to
do
the
road.
You
know
the
ditches.
L
Mr
chair,
you
live
in
rural
area
and
you
know
how
much
deep
those
ditches
and
how
long
the
grass
grow
on
them.
If
it's
wet.
If
it's
there
is
a
climate
problem,
if
the
grass
is
what
is
harder
to
cut
than
when
it's
dry,
there
is
a
torque
on
the
equipment.
There
is
so
many
things
we're
not
looking
at
and
you
send
the
crew
out
to
the
road
to
start
cutting
grass.
If
they
have
a
gas
equipment,
at
least
they
can
work
on
them.
Some
of
our
staff.
L
They
are
well
equipped
they've
been
using
those
equipment
for
many
many
40
50
years.
They
at
least
they
can
fix
them.
They
can.
They
can
keep
going
and
moving
forward
finishing
the
job,
but
when
the
battery
died,
the
battery
died.
You're
not
gonna
equip
cars
with
generator
to
start
charging
batteries
while
you're
on
the
go.
L
So
I
do
understand-
and
I
I
really
appreciate
the
concept
and
I
do
and
understand
enthusiastic
as
counselor
king
and
I
really
support
you
and
there
is
really
a
technology
or
there
is
something
we
can
move
forward
with,
but
I
think
we're
still
in
the
early
if
you
want
to
do
pilot
on
a
small
part
in
a
downtown
core,
yeah
go
for
it,
but
for
us
to
start
spending
money
and
costing
staff
time
and
from
health
to
safety
perspective.
You
need
to
carry
how
many
fats
we
packed
to
do
the
job
that
gas
trimmer
does.
L
A
Thanks
now
to
be
clear,
the
motion
in
front
of
us
is
that
public
works
and
environment
services
department
commit
to
phasing
out
the
use
of
gas-powered
law
and
yard
equipment.
It's
not
a
public
safety
issue.
At
this
point
I
mean
obviously
when
it
comes
to
what
we
heard
from
auto
fire
services.
Those
types
of
things
are
going
to
be
taken
into
consideration.
I
don't
see
any
scenario
in
which
staff
are
going
to
come
to
council
with
a
recommendation
that
puts
that
puts
people
at
risk
from
a
from
a
transition
perspective.
A
I
mean
we
we're
doing
this
a
lot
of
this
stuff.
This
is
a
motion
in
front
of
us
to
talk
about
doing
this
one
specific
thing
quicker
than
maybe
we
would
have
otherwise,
but
don't
make
the
mistake
that
we
wouldn't
have
done
it
otherwise,
and
I
mean
if
you
look
at
our
climate
change
master
plan,
you
look
at
what
we
are
already
doing
from
a
a
gas
powered
vehicle
perspective,
our
fleet
we're
working
on
a
fleet
plan
to
transition,
our
phase
in
as
we
as
we
pull
out
old
old
vehicles
or
replace
them
with
evs.
A
Obviously,
we're
not
going
to
do
this
at
the
risk
of
having
someone
get
stranded
somewhere,
you're
going
to
do
it.
You
know,
logically,
and
methodically,
as
you
move
forward,
to
make
sure
that
we
meet
the
targets
that
this
council
has
approved
in
terms
of
hitting
our
corporate
targets
by
2030
and
2040..
So
I
I
don't
think
this
is
a
matter
of
of
you
know,
screwing
over
any
staff
to
to
make
their
jobs
more
difficult.
L
I'm
not
challenging
you
I'm
just
saying
this
is
the
equipment
and
what
we
have
you're
talking
about
technology
and
cars,
and
all
this
perspective
I
understand
they
are
there
they've
been
working
on
them
for
a
long
time,
I'm
I'm
what
I'm
saying
from
technology
and
what
we
have
for
small
equipment.
It's
not
there
yet,
and
it's
going
to
be
there.
That's
for
sure-
and
I
agree
with
you,
which
who's
going
to
pick
it
up
first,
which
market
and
which
manufacturer,
but
I
don't
think
it's
there.
L
Yet
that's
from
personal
experience
and
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
bring
to
this
to
this
committee,
because
I
I
I
borrowed
lower
electric
battery
operated
blowers,
a
trimmer.
They
don't.
I
can't
even
finish
my
yard
and
I'm
just
this
is
from
personal
experience
and
I'm
not
buying
cheap
stuff.
That's
all
what
I'm
saying
I
have.
I
have
a
guy
from
magnetic
hiring
last
year
to
do
my
hedges
and
the
guy
really
cared
about
the
environment
and
he
came
with
hedge
trimmer
with
batteries
he
couldn't
finish
half
of
it.
L
L
He
had
to
pull
back
his
gaza
hedge
trimmer
and
finish
the
job,
so
I'm
giving
you
some
kind
of
perspective
on
what's
really
happening
because
we're
spending
taxpayer
money
here
and
we're
trying
to
share
our
experience
and
I'm
not
against
the
idea
of
phasing
that
I
tell
me
where
it
is
and
I'll
be
the
first
one
to
go,
implement
it.
But
I'm
just
giving
sharing
my
personal
experience
with
my
colleague.
A
F
Thank
you
sharon.
I
would
just
briefly
say
that,
obviously,
the
technologies
are
evolving,
we're
seeing
an
increasing
number
of
manufacturers
who
are
really
providing
this
new
zero
emission
equipment,
and
if
we
are
very
serious
about
reaching
our
our
climate
targets,
our
emission
targets,
we
really
need
to
start
examining
and
start
using
this
technology,
and
we
know
that
electric
lawnmower
mowers
are
now
starting
to
really
rival
the
power
of
gas
mowers.
F
They
also
add
and
provide
an
added
convenience
of
quieter
operation,
which
we
saw
reflected
in
in
some
of
the
comments
by
other
counselors
who
have
intervened
today
along-
and
this
is
very
important,
along
with
a
lack
of
noxious
fumes
and
other
benefits.
Noted
benefits
include
less
maintenance,
the
fact
that
they
are
easier
to
maneuver
the
fact
that
they
are
less
expensive
to
operate
and,
as
I
said,
we
are
now
seeing
manufacturers
really
shifting
to
this
to
this
technology.
F
So
I
am,
I
I
definitely
support
this.
I
want.
I
support
the
additional
directions
as
well
to
examine
the
the
the
perspective
of
community
members
and
to
reflect
the
perspective
of
community
members
who
are
asking
to
see
a
change
in
terms
of
greener
technologies
being
utilized
for
for
these
functions.
F
So
once
again,
I
I
thank
you
for
the
for
the
opportunity
to
to
introduce
this
motion
and
I
thank
staff
for
all
the
hard
work
that
they've
done
in
terms
of
research
and
working
in
conjunction
with
the
national
capital
commission
as
well,
so
that
we
can
coordinate
our
efforts
to
ensure
greener
maintenance
of
our
green
spaces.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
Thank
you.
So
I
did
just
ask
councillor
king
to
to
provide
a
closing
comment
before
we
go
to
the
motion.
But
council
hewlett
did
put
your
hand
up
during
that
time.
So
do
you
have
something
brief
to
add
or
question.
D
If
I
may
chair,
I
think
it
might
help.
I
I
want
to
say
that
I
share
counselor
deroza's
concerns
with
where
the
technology's
at
I
certainly
support
the
effort
that
what
we're
trying
to
do,
I
personally
went
out
and
purchased.
What
I
believe
is
a
high-end
electric
mower
and
had
the
same
experience
as
councillor
deruse
and
what
I
had
to
do
was
go
buy
extra
batteries
so
that
I
would
be
able
to
do
my
yard
with
it,
and
I
don't
have
a
big
yard
to
do
so.
D
My
concern
with
that
is:
yes,
batteries
will
be
evolving
and,
at
one
point,
it'll
come
to
the
place
and
time
where
I'll
be
able
to
do
a
whole
yard
with
one
battery.
But
I
worry
about
what
this
does
to
our
staff
and
their
productivity,
because
we
know
they're
very
busy
and
that
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
to
get
through
each
park
and
we
have
a
lot
of
parks
to
do
so.
D
What's
the
the
staff
plan
here
in
this
transition,
will
they,
you
know,
buy
a
warehouse
full
of
batteries
and
have
them
all
charged
all
the
time
so
that
everybody
can
get
a
full
eight-hour
shift
in
for
working
or
will
we
get
to
a
situation
where
staff
have
to
sit,
and
you
know
find
something
else
to
do
while
they
wait
for
the
batteries
to
become
available?
I
I'd
like
to
hear
about
that
before
I
cast
my
vote.
A
Yeah,
so
if
I
could
just
allison
is
obviously
on
to
respond,
but
if
I
could
just
again
remind
members
of
the
report
recommendation
in
front
of
us,
it
is
to
commit
to
phasing
out
the
use
of
gas-powered,
lawn
and
yard
equipment.
When
said
equipment
requires
replacement,
an
electric
alternative
is
available
that
meets
operational
needs
within
both
city-owned
and
contracted
services.
A
A
We
transition
them
to
this
equipment
and
that
this
is
why
allison
has
been
speaking
about
a
pilot
project
to
try
out
three
or
four
crews
this
summer
and
to
come
back
to
this
committee
and
report
on
how
that
went,
so
that
any
concerns
that
we
might
have
right
now
can
be
addressed
and
can
be
either
validated
or
or
confirmed
to
not
have
been
a
concern,
and
that's
the
intent
of
what's
going
to
happen
this
summer
with
allison
reporting
back
to
us
likely
sometime
early
next
year.
O
Thank
you
chair.
No,
I
think
you
summarized
it
well.
This
is
what
we're
concentrating
on
this.
This
season,
which
will
be
from
may
until
the
fall,
is
a
is
a
pilot
and
we're
hoping
that
the
batteries
are
the
technology
is
there,
but
we
are
not
going
to
jeopardize
our
mqs
or
anything
else
at
this
time,
and
I
I
would
just
like
to
say
we
are
concentrated
on
at
this
point
in
time,
small
or
yard
and
lawn
equipment,
so
mowers
would
be
phase
two.
A
Okay,
okay,
thank
you
so
appreciate
that
conversation.
I'm
always
remember
when
I
heard
about
this
in
the
first
place-
and
I
heard
the
the
information
about
the
the
car
kilometers
traveled-
it's
it's
so
wild.
I
remember
back
to
a
video
of
what
eight
eight
folks
walking
through,
I
think
centertown.
A
I
think
it
was
with
the
leaf
blowers
around
a
building
and
I
think
those
eight
those
eight
guys
could
have
jumped
into
a
honda
odyssey,
driven
up
to
thunder
bay,
grabbed
a
box
of
persians
and
come
all
the
way
back
and
and
had
a
a
smaller
carbon
footprint
than
the
work
that
they
were
doing
with
the
leaf
floors
walking
around
downtown.
A
It's
a
fascinating
thing
with
those
leap
floors.
I
don't
anyway
so
on
this
on
this
report
in
front
of
us,
so
that
the
standing
committee,
environment,
protection,
water,
waste
management
recommend
council
approve
one.
A
A
The
operational
needs
within
both
city-owned
and
contract
services
and
two
that
phasing
out
activity
begins
as
quickly
as
possible,
starting
with
summer
operations
planning
in
q1
2022,
which
ends
in
eight
days
and
report
back
to
the
standing
committee
on
environment
protection,
water
and
waste
management
as
part
of
a
departmental
green
equipment
plan
in
q4
2022
recognizing
that
that
might
be
q1
2023.
Just
to
be
realistic.
A
All
right
on
that
on
that
report.
D
A
A
Just
recorded
dissent
from
councillors,
you
can.
D
Record
my
descent
to
scott
stories.
A
So
dissent
from
counselor
hubley
as
well
all
right.
Thank
you,
members
of
committee,
so
we
go
back
up
in
my
agenda
and
camera
items.
There
are
none
in
information
previously
distributed,
so
we
have
three
reports
that
have
been
brought
to
us.
Well,
one's,
not
really
a
report,
so
annual
drinking
water
source
protection
status,
update
for
2021
a
c
was
the
response
plan
for
spongy
moths,
aka,
ldd,
moss,
aka,
something
we
no
longer
call
them
anymore
and
then
b
was
the
mayoral
letters
ascent
to
senior
levels
of
government
on
climate
issues.
F
I
just
thank
you
chair.
I
just
really
wanted
to
take
an
opportunity
to
really
thank
staff
for
the
comprehensive
report
on
the
moth
response
and
for
their
efforts
to
work
directly
with
communities
affected.
As
you
might
know,
rita
rockler
413
has
definitely
felt
the
pain
of
the
infestation
and
residents
are
really
hungry
for
resources
to
to
really
keep
the
moths
at
bay.
F
G
You
so
the
burlap
distribution
will
happen
this
spring.
We've
got
our
list
of
community
groups
that
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
in
the
coming
week
with
if
they're
wanting
to
participate
in
our
burlap
distribution
program.
The
online
reporting
tool
will
be
up
this
spring,
so
we'll
be
able
to
get
information
from
residents
and
community
groups
of
where
they're,
seeing
spongy
moth
in
their
communities,
and
that
will
help
us
to
in
our
monitoring
program.
So
we're
doing
egg
mass
surveys
city-wide,
but
really
local
on
the
ground.
G
It
will
help
us
to
know
where
people
are
seeing
spongy
moth
this
summer,
we'll
be
looking
at.
You
know
different
types
of
training
that
we
could
do
possibly
doing
some
egg
mass
scraping
training
next
fall
and
winter
there's
different
opportunities
that
we
can
take
to
do
that
with
community
groups
as
well.
F
I
really
want
to
thank
you
for
all
the
efforts
that
you're
undertaking
on
this
in
terms
of
the
response
to
the
inquiry,
and
I
know
that
residents
and
community
associations
will
be
appreciative,
community
organizations
in
terms
of
obtaining
those
resources
they
had
been
asking
for
resources
in
the
last
season.
F
Of
course,
we
didn't
have
a
program
in
place
and
now
there's
a
program
in
place,
so
I'm
very
thankful
for
that,
and
I
thank
you
for
the
outreach
to
my
office
in
terms
of
asking
which
groups
to
to
really
engage
in
outreach.
So
thank
you
for
for
all
your
efforts
and
thank
you
chair.
Thank
you.
A
No
problem,
thank
you
and
counselors
will
know
that
we
we
receive
that
response
plan.
It's
actually
quite
comprehensive
and
it's
very
good
for
for
anyone
who's.
I
think
there's
a
number
of
wards
that
are
heavily
impacted
by
by
these
moths.
I'm
not
sure
the
name
spongy
came
from
it's
it's
almost
an
anagram
for
the
previous
name,
but
anyway
there's
a
couple
letters
missing,
but
all
right,
thank
you
staff!
Thank
you,
tracy
for
that
response
and
for
the
response
plan
as
well.
A
So
nothing
further
on
that
notice.
His
emotion,
we
already
did
that,
because
I
stole
cancer,
clutch's
notice
of
motion
from
later
and
moved
it
up
earlier,
so
just
trying
to
be
effective
and
not
waste
time,
because
I'm
all
about
not
wasting
time.
I
mean
it's
a
rare
occasion
where
I
go
off
on
some
tangent
in
this
committee
and
just
start
talking
ad
nauseam
and
wasting
time.
I
don't
do
that
and
I
don't
think
it's.
I
really
think
it's
important
that
we
just
don't
waste
time
at
this
committee.