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A
At
least
one
of
them
will
be
back
next
week
as
soon
as
we
get
someone
to
approve,
which
I
think
that
that's
the
approval
that's
needed.
Yes,
then
I
think
this
should
merge.
No
problem.
A
All
right
next
up,
we
have
decoupled
dependencies
from
build
packs.
A
This
is
still
a
behemoth.
I
had
some
conversations
we
we
managed
to
meet
up
in
our
local
office.
Rob
and
I
had
some
conversations
about
some
of
the
feedback
he
had
on.
This
I
think
that.
A
I
think
that
we
are
pretty
close
to
sort
of
merging
this
as
the
initial
contract
for
how
the
couple
dependencies
like
like
what
the
API
for
decoupled
dependencies
should
be,
and
we
may,
during
implementation,
come
up
with
some
more
paquetta
specific
ideas,
at
which
point
we
would
probably
want
to
open
some
other
RFC
that
was
like
Hey
in
pequetto.
A
Like
you,
we
we've
made
all
of
these
things
possible
through
our
library,
but
in
paquetto.
This
is
how
we've
decided
to
implement
this
structure,
and
so
I
think
that's
probably
I,
think
we're.
Hopefully
getting
close
to
this
I
have
not
been
able
to
Jan
said
that
he
wanted
to
take
one
more
holistic
read
of
this
and
he
has
not
posted
anything
yet
so
he
might
be
busy,
and
so
I
will
leave
this
open
for
a
little
bit
longer.
A
A
Cool
just
keep
moving
at
a
clip.
Then
a
proposal
to
publish
multi-arch
build
packs,
Jericho
hasn't
been
here
for
a
couple
of
weeks:
I'm
not
entirely
sure
what
needs
to
happen
to
move
this
further
forward.
A
I
think
that
there's
still
some
stuff,
that's
being
hashed
out
with
Dan
bakuza
and
Rob
I.
Don't
have
any
problems
with
the
general
idea
of
this
proposal,
but
I'm
just
waiting
for
things
to
get
resolved,
and
so
I
will
actually
reach
out
to
I,
guess
Dan,
because
Rob
will
be
out
for
the
next
three
weeks.
Next,
starting
next
week,
we'll
be
out
for
three
weeks
as
he
drives
across
the
country
to
move
to
California.
A
A
All
right,
bionic
end
of
support,
RFC
I.
The
only
thing
that
I
want
to
call
out
is
that
Rob
has
requested
that
all
basically
all
the
family
maintainers
put
on
approval
on
this
as
well.
A
A
Add
big
warnings
to
the
ROC
Anthony
you're
here:
do
you
have
anything
you'd
like
to
talk
about
on
this.
B
Issues
with
my
microphone
input-
I
was,
you
know,
just
anyways,
yeah
yeah
I
have
something
to
say
so:
I
have
updated
all
the
or
well
I
have
addressed
I.
Believe
all
the
comments.
B
Many
women
comment
was
to
make
it
explicit
even
in
the
RFC,
but
it
was
something
dangerous.
There
was
also
a
comment
from
Rob
about
not
making
the
well
actually
Rob
wanted
the
research
mobile
pack
to
Auto
detect
a
given
file
with
some.
You
know
CH
mode
mapping,
but
we
decided
against
one.
B
It
was
not
a
big
struggle.
Actually,
it
was
just
you
know
say
that
we
still
want
the
user
to
at
least
provide
an
environment
variable
in
any
cases.
We
never
want
this
to
to
actually
be
enabled
automatically.
So
we
didn't
want
to
to
provide
a
default
file,
name
that
would
that
could
be
detected
like
other
beer
packs
do
so
yeah.
That
was
fine,
so
yeah
I
believe
it's
ready
now,
unless
anybody
has
any
other
comments
on
that
one,
but
yeah.
B
And
I
also
I
did
the
you
know:
I'm
I
had
created
a
POC
using
shell
scripts,
so
yeah
exactly
I
put
it
as
via
prior
art,
so
you
know
just
to
give
a
taste
of
what
it
could
do,
how
you
could
use
it.
Even
if
you
know
it's
not
going
to
be
the
real
thing
but
yeah
see
we
saw.
This
is
a
pretty
good
example
of
what
you
could
do
with
it.
So
it's
out
coded
the
rights
but
yeah
that's
kind
of
the
idea
of
so
yeah.
B
B
B
Yep
yeah.
B
Once
again,
this
is
definitely
we'll
go
back,
but
it's
not
supposed
to
be
in
any
way
enabled
automatically.
You
know
you
really
need
to
make.
You
know
to
to
give
some
thought
and
some
you
know
energy,
and
you
know,
reading
the
dog
before
using
that.
A
Yeah
is
is
part
of
the
idea
of
this
that,
like
we
would
I
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
speak,
but
is
the
idea
to
not
include
this
as
like
a
utility
in
any
of
our
sort
of
pre-built
language
families,
and
so
like
you
would
have
to?
You
would
have
to
add
to
this
build
pack
to
your
build
order
or
create
some
sort
of
custom,
build
Packer,
Builder
or
a
is
the
idea
that
we
would
add
this.
B
No
I
think
we
wish
to
have
this
burner
in
base
and
full
specifically
visible
pack
in
base
and
full
gotcha
still
so
it
would
be
available.
It
would
be,
you
know,
activated
only
if
you
made
the
effort
of
reading
the
dock
and
setting
your
environment
viable.
Okay,.
A
Well,
I
assume
we
would
only
do
this
in
like
build
build
packs
where
we've
received
customer
complaint,
that
or
user
complaint
that
hey
I
can't
I
can't
do
this.
B
Well,
you
know
actually,
if
it
was
a
discussion
around
the
specific
topic
and
we
still
wanted
to
to
make
it
available
as
part
as
with
paquito
beer
Pack's
family.
So
it
made
sense
to
have
it
included
in
in
beyonders.
A
Nope,
okay,
I
think
with
that
we
are
done
with
all
of
our
rfcs
for
today.
A
A
That
does
add
the
dash
dash
flattened
flag
of
attempted
to
try
and
use
that
for
some
build
packs
and
I
am
running
into
some
error
cases
around
running
out
of
file
space
like
like
something
that
I
would
expect
to
see.
If,
like
something
about,
my
compression
had
gone
crazy,
I'm
planning
on
investigating
that
this
afternoon.
B
Option
just
quickly:
first,
what
what
does
that
flat
in
those.
A
C
A
Yeah
hitting
the
maximum
layer
limit
for
Docker,
which
is
something
crazy
like
127
or
122
or
I.
Don't
remember.
B
A
B
B
A
So
if
you
had
I
guess
metadata
attached
to
the
bill
packs
themselves,
I
don't
think
that
that
goes
anywhere
but
like
during
the
build
process.
I,
don't
think
that
you
can
do
like
a
pack
build
flatten,
yeah
you,
you
would
do
it
for
like
pack,
create
Builder
or
pack
create
build
pack.
A
Project
updates,
the
only
project
update
I
have
is
that
the
election
has
stuff
has
started,
there's
a
link
to
slack
thread
walking
through
what
you
would
need
to
do
in
order
to
apply
for
nominations
it.
You
can
nominate
someone
or
yourself
until
June,
1st,
I,
believe
and
then
from
June
1st
to
June
16th.
We
will
be
voting
and
then
from
June,
then
on
June
20th.
The
results
of
the
elections
will
be
announced.
A
C
I
had
a
couple
of
items:
hi
everyone
so
yeah.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
the
elections,
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
Chris
or
myself
in
case
you
wanted
to
get
an
update.
Have
questions
about
nominations?
What
have
you
please
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out?
C
Just
wanted
to
add
that
the
other
thing
is
are
scheduled
to
do
a
demo
for
one
of
these
media
things
I,
think
Forest.
You
gave
an
interview
to
swapnil
last
month,
so
we're
having
swapnil
host
both
of
us
for
demon,
potato
and
bring
packs,
and
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
here.
So
that's
happening
and
more
of
a
marketing-ish
update
for
the
community
and
the
last
thing
that
I
had
was
there's
a
proposal
or
an
RFC
open
about
adding
Cloud
native,
build
packs
to
Cloud
Foundry
itself.
C
So
there's
going
to
be
a
discussion,
that's
going
to
happen
on
the
30th
of
May
I'll
post,
a
link
to
how
you
can
join
that
meeting
and
the
RFC
and
other
things
with
the
packetto
slack
channel.
So,
if
folks
are
interested
in
getting
in
on
the
discussion
or
have
opinions
or
have
any
general
interest
about
the
use
of
cloud
native
impacts
inside
CF
I
would
highly
encourage
those
folks
to
attend
in
share
their
ideas
and
opinions.
B
No,
but
just
maybe
a
quick
comment
on
on
what
you
just
describe
Ram,
so
so
you're
saying
that
there
is
a
proposition
to
move
back,
I
mean
to
make
paquero
build
packs
part
of
cloud
Foundry
I
mean
I
mean.
Would
that
need
that?
Would
that
mean
that?
Well,
though,
would
we
change
the
name?
Okay,
Roblox
to
Cloud
Foundry,
V
free,
build
packs,
or
what
would
that
entail?.
C
No
I
think
the
cloud
Foundry
Community
will
know
them
as
Cloud
Foundry,
V3
or
V4
or
V
whatever,
but
I
think
packeto
will
continue
to
remain
packet,
as
as
far
as
I
can
tell
so
I
don't
see
a
change
in
names
or
nomenclature
or
whatever
so.
A
C
C
Yeah,
so
the
idea
is
to
just
consume
paqueto,
as
is
without
having
too
many
changes
in
the
way
the
build
packs
themselves
are
progressing
or
in
their
trajectory,
there's
just
another
way
to
consume.
What's
being
done
here,
that's.