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Description
Recording of the first Permissionless Software Foundation (PSF) Community Committee (CommComm) Meeting- Dec. 16, 20202
Links of interest to the PSF community:
Homepage: https://PSFoundation.cash
General Telegram channel: https://t.me/permissionless_software
VIP Telegram channel: https://t.me/psf_vip
CommComm Agenda: https://github.com/Permissionless-Software-Foundation/community-committee/issues/1
A
Welcome
everybody
to
the
first
psf
we're
getting
started
pretty
roughly.
What
we're
trying
to
do
real
broad
strokes
is
is
copy,
the
the
the
way
that
protocol
labs
and
the
node.js
foundation
do
their
meetings,
and
so
we're
kind
of
at
the
moment.
We're
kind
of
aping
them
unsuccessfully
so
still
got
to
get
some
skills
down
with
the
with
the
zoom
meeting
moderation
and
so
we'll
work
on
that
for
the
the
meeting
next
time.
This.
A
The
intention
of
this
meeting
is
really
just
to
lay
down
the
broad
strokes
to
introduce
the
permission
of
software
foundations,
people
who
might
be
a
little
unfamiliar
with
it.
We
we
had
it's.
This
whole
thing
is
one
giant
software
experiment
and
we're
trying
to
you
know,
make
it
less.
So
far
it's
been
a
very
small
project
and
what
I
want
to
do
is
bring
more
people
into
the
project,
and
so,
let's
start
real
quick
by
reviewing
the
okay.
A
The
focus
in
terms
of
technology
so
far
has
been
on
bitcoin
cash
and
in
in
in
like
ipfs
and
other
technologies.
But
I
want
to
keep
the
focus
with
the
mission
on
protecting
individual
rights
of
free
speech
and
privacy.
That's
that's
the
main
focus,
and
then
we
we
do
that
by
creating
software
that
uses
new
technology.
A
So
one
of
the
first
things
that
we
need
to
do
is
to
nail
down
our
communication
channels
and
to
create
a
safe
space
for
people
to
communicate,
and
so
that's
why
the
code
of
conduct
and
the
moderation
policy
is
is
at
the
top
of
the
agenda.
So
I
really
encourage
people
to
review
them.
They're,
pretty
straightforward.
These
were
actually
just
copied
and
pasted
from
the
node.js
foundation,
so
they've
had
years
to
sort
of,
simplify
and
perfect
these.
But
it's
it's
the
pretty
standard,
boilerplate
stuff,
you
know
be
respectful,
no
trolling.
A
That
would
like
to
censor
people,
but
there
has
been
a
lack
of
traction
due
to
due
to
just
the
toxicity
in
the
space.
It's
it's,
I
think
we're
all
veterans
here
and
we've
all
observed
that
this
space
is
full
of.
You
know
two
steps
forward,
one
step
back
and
that's
one
of
the
the
changes
that
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
to
affect
with
the
permissionless
soccer
foundation.
A
A
It
can
go
from.
You
know
anywhere
from
zero
to
infinity,
essentially,
and
but
it's
what
ensures
that
our
token
is
is
always
pegged
to
bitcoin
cash,
it's
always
backed
by
bitcoin
cash
at
some
level.
The
amount
changes,
but
but
that
peg
is
there
and
people
can
move
in
and
out
of
the
token
and
that's
essentially
according
to
bancor,
their
thesis
was
that's.
The
difference
between
play.
Money
and
real
money
is
liquidity.
A
If
you
can
maintain
perfect
liquidity,
and
so
that's
the
basis
idea
of
our
token,
and
so
then,
once
you
kind
of
understand
that
this
token
and
the
liquidity
is
what
makes
it
real
and
keeps
it
pegged
to
the
underlying
asset
which
is
bitcoin
cash.
There's
then
it
becomes
a
supply
and
demand.
You
just
have
to
wrap
your
head
around
the
idea
of
supply
and
demand,
and
so
there's
two
ways
for
us
to
increase
demand
of
the
token
one
is
by
holding
tokens
which
people
who
have
gained
access
to
the
vip
room.
A
Have
you
know,
staked
tokens
and
are
holding
them
so
that
that
creates
demand?
The
other
way
of
creating
demand
is
through
burning
tokens,
and
so
that's
what
these
illustrations
on
the
webpage
talk
about
is
the
vending
machines
and
the
consulting,
which
are
two
ways
that
tokens
get
burned
and
these
are.
These
are
all
going
back
to
that
way
of
funding
open
source
development.
A
So
we
we
build
things
like
wallet.fullstack.cache
or
fullstack.cache,
which
is
a
subscription
service
and
through
use
of
that
software
it
burns
the
tokens,
and
so
the
developers
who
get
rewarded
in
the
tokens
for
the
open
source
work.
They
do
to
maintain
that
infrastructure,
that's
how
they
ultimately
get
paid.
A
So
those
that's
the
broad
strokes
of
the
token
economics.
So,
however,
we
as
a
community
grow
this
thing,
it's
important
that
we
that
there
there
are
these
sort
of
economic
rules
that
we
have
to
follow
in
terms
of
supply
and
demand.
We
need
to
always
be
aware
that,
like
we
can't
just
spend
these
tokens,
you
know
as
much
as
we
want,
which
should
hopefully
be
towards
open
source
software
in
the
service
of
protecting
free
speech
and
censorship,
resistance,
and
but
we
can't
just
spend
them.
A
But
all
these
usage
of
the
apps
burn
token.
So
that's
increases
demand,
and
so
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
get
more
ideas
like
that,
like
I
would
like
the
permissionless
software
foundation,
in
particular
this
community
committee,
to
focus
on
ways
that
we
can
grow
usage
of
the
token
while
staying
focused
on
the
mission
of
the
permissionless
software
foundation.
A
I
want
to
get
your
input
on
some
of
this
too,
from
the
from
the
avalanche
side
of
things,
because
there's
a
lot
of
parallel
paths,
I'm
I'm
speaking
from
my
own
personal
experience,
which
is
the
bitcoin
cash,
but
in
terms
of
infrastructure,
on
the
bitcoin
cash
side
of
things,
there's
probably
the
best
way
to
visualize
it
in
terms
of
infrastructure.
Is
the
cache
stack
at
fullstack.cache,
where
this
is
the
framework
that
I
developed
to
go
from
a
full
node
to
a
mobile,
app
and
and
all
the
layers
of
infrastructure
in
between?
A
And
this
is
when
I
talk
about
infrastructure.
This
is
the
infrastructure
that
needs
to
be
maintained.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
these
specific
blocks,
but
but
this
general
concept
of
at
the
top
is
people
using
apps
on
their
phone
and
people.
Using
you
know,
get
like
like
juan
bennett
likes
to
say
is,
is
giving
people
super
powers
with
software
of
sorry,
I'm
just
trying
to
find
my
there.
A
We
go
agenda
of
giving
them
software,
giving
them
superpowers
through
software
that
lets
them
enforce
their
rights
to
free
speech
and
and
and
economic
action,
and
and
so
in
the
bitcoin
world
in
the
bitcoin
cash
world.
This
comes
down
to
like
indexers,
like
the
like
the
slp
token
indexer,
that
that
needs
ongoing
maintenance
and,
and
some
of
the
other
software
like
the
bchjs,
javascript
library,
the
bch
api
rest
api
and
the
core
front-end
web
wallet
engine
that
powers
wallet.fullstack.cache.
A
You
know
the
the
the
infrastructure
requirements
are
much
smaller
and
more
nimble
with
that
technology,
but
I
know
that
avalanche
right
now
is
focused
on
adoption,
there's
a
lot
of
similar
goals
and
similar
technology
and
that
it's
utxo
based
so
real,
quick
don.
If
you
have
any
input
on
like
the
sort
of
infrastructure
needs
that
that
avalanche
is
facing
right
now,
I'd
love
to
hear
it.
B
To
be
completely
honest,
you
know
I'm
not
a
I'm
not
like
a
developer,
so
I'm
not
as
knowledgeable
on
these
things,
but
as
far
as
infrastructure
requirements.
You
know
everything
is
maintained
right
now.
As
far
as
I
know,
there's
not
anything
like
that.
That
needs
to
be
maintained.
Community,
wise,
probably
a
question
that
I'll
have
to
you
know,
have
to
take
a
look
at
find
out
some
information
and
maybe
talk
about
the
next
community
meeting.
A
So,
okay
well
so
that
basically
concludes
that
big
picture
discussion
that
that
I
wanted
to
have
and
I'd
love
to
open
this
up
to
more
of
a
round
table.
You
know,
unfortunately,
we
lost
david,
but
we've
got
don
and
we've
got
daniel
and
really
this
is
a
discussion
that
we'll
we'll
take
offline
to
the
to
the
chat
rooms,
in
particular
the
vip
chat
room
but
kind
of
just
over
the
next
couple
weeks.
A
I'd
love
to
hear
more
from
more
people
about
like
what
are
the
outcomes
they'd
like
to
see
and
how
can
the
psf
achieve
those
outcomes?
How
do
we
attract
more
people
to
the
psf,
and
so
all
of
this
again
just
to
keep
the
scope
focused
is
on
privacy
and
censorship,
resistance
and
economic
action
like
those
are.
Those
are
the
ultimate
end
goals
that
the
permission
of
software
foundations
focused
on
and
then
how
do
we
achieve
those
goals
with
technology?
A
A
All
four
of
these
chains
can
support
that
token
protocol,
which
would
make
it
possible
to
have
cross-chain
asset
transfers.
One
slp
token
could
theoretically
be
transferred
across
chains,
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
boon
to
a
bit.
People's
ability
to
do
economic
activity
and
and-
and
I
think,
all
those
chains-
or
at
least
most
of
them
have
a
reason
to
have
it
have
a
some
skin
in
the
game
there.
C
C
A
A
B
B
You
know
kind
of
like
spreading
adoption
of
different
technologies,
so
I
think
that's
really
the
best
way
and
it
really
allows
value
to
just
kind
of
transfer
over
more
fluidly
than
this
kind
of
chain
hopping
that
we
have
or
that
we're
seeing
all
the
time.
So
I
think
that's
really
the
best
low
hanging
fruit
and
I
would
just
it
would
be
fantastic
to
see
just
like
a
unified
way
of
taking
slp
tokens
from
one
chain
to
another,
especially
like
in
this.
A
C
A
So
that's
one
example
of
sort
of
using
this
like
sort
of
cross-chain
interaction
and
now,
with
file
coin
on
the
launch
yeah,
I
think
daniel
and
I
have
both
looked
into
textiles
tools
and
and
that
that
seems
to
be
a
good
way
for
us
to
to
get
data
not
just
on
ipfs,
but
on
filecoin
and
yeah.
That's
that's
a
good
point
daniel.
We
should
that
that
might
be
a
one.
A
A
The
attendees
will
we'll
do
a
we'll
do
a
better
job
next
time
of
of
filtering
attendees
and
getting
things
ahead
of
worked
out
ahead
of
time
before
we
live
stream.
I
want
to
remind
everyone
that
these
bitcoin
cash
addresses
that
are
listed
here.
These
are,
if
you
go
to
message.fullstack.cache,
you
can
send
a
private
end-to-end
encrypted
message,
essentially
like
an
email
to
these
bitcoin
cash
addresses,
and
so
message.fullstack.cache
is
how
you
do
it.
A
I
want
us
to
start
using
using
our
tools
and
expanding
our
tools,
which
includes
you
know:
memo.cash
for
uncensorable
social
media,
the
the
end-to-end
encrypted
message,
sharing
feature
and
and
other
sort
of
really
working
on
our
our
communication
tools
and
and
eating
our
own
dog
food.
So
to
speak,
because
I
think
if
it
works
for
us
internally,
then
it's
much
easier
for
us
to
to
pitch
it
to
other
people
and
and
and
and
grow
the
usage.
A
C
A
You
know
it's
up
to
you:
it's
it's
certainly
easier
to
have
the
same,
handle
but
yeah.
It's
it's
really
up
to
you.
I
want
to
respect
people's
level
of
anonymity
that
they
that
they
want
to
achieve,
and
these
tools
should
also
support
that
it,
but
yeah
it's
definitely
easier
for
people
to
track
you.
If
you
go
by
the
same
name
in
different
channels,.
A
Okay,
well,
let's
continue
this
discussion
in
the
telegram
channel
and
in
particular
the
the
vip
channel,
if
you
guys
have
access
to
that,
and
if
anybody
needs
help
getting
access
to
the
the
vip
channel
like
verifying
your
your
bitcoin
cash
address
with
the
bot,
let
me
know
and
yeah
this
has
been:
it's
been
a
you
know.
We
got
off
to
a
rocky
start,
but
it's
been
a
good
meeting.