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A
Okay,
it
says
we're
live
those
watching
the
youtube
recording
hang
tight.
While
we
do
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping,
I
need
to
post
the
youtube
link
in
the
telegram
channel.
B
B
A
And
let's
do
a
quick
round
of
introductions
actually
before
we
go
into
it.
I
am
chris
troutner
founded
the
psf
and
just
sort
of
helping
manage
the
community
david.
You
want
to
introduce
yourself.
A
Right
on
yeah,
daniel's
heading
up,
wallet.fullstack.cache
and
message.fullstack.cache,
and
just
doing
a
lot
of
the
front-end
development,
so
you
guys
use
our
apps
anybody
watching
this
uses
our
apps.
You
have
daniel
to
thank
for
it.
A
So
the
agenda's,
pretty
short
today,
I
was
hoping
to
have
more
people
in
here
from
the
vip
meeting
room
like
don
wonton,
but
I
wanted
to
use
today's
meeting
to
just
recap
on
sort
of
the
priorities
for
the
community
and,
of
course,
I'll
share
my
perspective.
But
what
I'm?
What
I'm
really
interested
in
is
is
getting
other
people's
perspectives.
A
So
whatever
we
cover
in
this
meeting,
I'm
hoping
we'll
continue.
The
conversation
on
the
permissionless
software
foundation,
telegram
channel,
in
particular
the
vip
room,
if,
if
there's
people
in
the
community
with
skin
in
the
game
who
who
feel
strongly
in
what
their
opinion
heard,
I'm
all
ears.
A
So
I've
got
a
list
of
priorities
here
that
are
sort
of
the
the
active
projects
that
are
going
on
right
now,
and
I've
tried
to
break
them
up
into
high
medium
low
priorities.
How
I
see
them
with
it
being
april,
21st
may
15th
there's
going
to
be
a
network
upgrade
for
both
the
bitcoin
cash
and
the
abc
or
ecash
blockchains,
so
we're
busy
getting
ready
for
that
they.
A
This
is
not
anticipated
to
be
a
a
contentious
fork
on
either
of
the
blockchains,
but
it,
but
it
is
a
scheduled
fork.
So
everyone
is
required
to
update
the
software,
including
all
the
infrastructure,
we're
running
on
fullstack.cache
to
support
the
psf
community.
So
I'm
fully
in
the
process
of
of
those
upgrades
and
getting
ready
so
that
we
have
a
smooth
transition.
A
The
next
highest
priority
that
I'm
focused
on
is
fullstack.cache.
We
we
have
wallet.fullstack.cache,
which
is
a
our
web
wallet.
We
just
recently
took
the
alpha
warning
label
off
of
that,
because
it's
it's
reached
a
level
of
stability
and
now
that
it's
stable-
and
we
have
these
these
excellently
developed
tools.
We
need
to
create
documentation
to
encourage
other
developers
to
use
those
tools
to
build
their
own
web
web
apps,
it's
more.
It's
we
never
intended
wallet.fullstack.cache
to
be
an
end
user
wallet.
A
Instead,
we
always
intended
to
be
a
developer
tool
and
encourage
businesses
and
developers
to
fork
it
as
sort
of
a
boilerplate
to
then
begin
hacking
on
to
build
their
own
web
wallets
to
just
sort
of
launch,
get
them
get
them
kicked
off
and
launched
into
an
idea.
A
So
now
that
the
app's
working
and
it's
stable,
the
next
big
step
for
us
is
to
is
to
add
documentation,
because
there's
there's
quite
a
few
pieces
of
software
that
make
up
wallet.fullstack.cache
and
we
need
to
illustrate
what
what
those
are,
how
they
fit
together
and
how
to
interact
with
them
as
a
developer.
There's
front-end
libraries,
there's
back-end
libraries
and
there's
there's
sort
of
middleware
libraries.
A
So
we
need
to
document
all
of
that
better
better
than
is
done
now,
so
that's
another
priority
and
then
gary
nadir,
who
is
been
been
contracting
with
the
permissionless
software
foundation
to
work
on
the
avalanche.
Slp
bridge
is
nearing
completion.
So
that's
that's!
A
the
third
highest
priority
in
my
book
is
is
just
getting
that
launch.
We're
all
really
excited
to
be
able
to
to
move
tokens
between
blockchains
in
this
manner.
A
So
I'm
pretty
pretty
excited
about
that
and
then
you
know
not
everything
can
be
a
high
priority.
Unfortunately,
so
I
had
to
throw
a
few
things
into
these.
These
lower
priorities.
So
even
though
I'm
extremely
excited
about
the
pay
to
web
database
idea
that
I
I
shared
in
our
last
technical
meeting
and
the
json
rpc
over
ipfs.
This
is
not
a
high
priority
at
this
moment,
but
we
are
making
steady,
steady
progress
on
that.
A
I
think
that
that
is
going
to
be
a
a
very
important
element
in
keeping
the
price
of
the
psf
token
up
as
we
move
forward.
So
I'm
excited
to
explore
it.
You
know.
For
that
reason
and
as
well
as
technological
reasons
and
then
we
are
actively
looking
for
a
developer
who
can
work
on
this
coin
join
protocol?
A
If
anybody
is
interested
in
this,
but
but
adding
financial
privacy
both
for
the
avalanche
chain
and
the
bitcoin
cash
chain
and
the
ecash
chain,
if
we
develop
the
protocol
the
way
we
want
to
develop
the
protocol,
it's
it'll
be
chain
agnostic,
so
it'll
work
on
any
chain
that
has
utxos.
So
all
three
of
those
blockchains
have
those
prerequisites
and
so
we're
this
is.
This
would
be
a
paid
contract
position,
we're
going
to
put
a
blog
post
up
on
the
psf
website
with
more
details.
A
For
the
the
low
priority
I
mean,
nfts
are
all
the
rage.
I
think
I
think
it's
it's
the
the
market's
starting
to
cool
off
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
the
hype,
but
we
we
do
definitely
want
to
continue
moving
forward
with
wallet.fullstack.cash
and
the
nft
support
for
that
application.
A
Stoyan
has
been
who's
been
on
several
of
these.
These
meetings
before
is
interested
in
doing
it,
so
we're
gonna
create
a
bounty
for
him
to
continue
the
work
on
there.
He's
already
got
such
a
head
start
over
everybody
else
in
this
space.
A
As
far
as
I'm
concerned,
when
it
comes
to
nfts
on
the
bitcoin
cash
blockchain
and
sort
of
not
not
just
the
display
of
it,
but
the
actual
structure
of
it
he's
really
got
got
some
things
figured
out
that
I
I
don't
see
anybody
else
working
on,
so
that
that's
a
lower
priority,
mainly
because
once
once
he
fulfills
the
the
bounty,
you
know
it'll
just
create
more
work
in
terms
of
reviewing
it
and
merging
it,
and
updating
the
wallets
and
all
that
stuff.
A
But
so
we
wanna,
we
wanna
work
on
it,
but
we
just
can't
prioritize
it,
but
we're
gonna
keep
working
on
it.
So
with
that,
let
me
open
it
up
to
david
and
daniel.
What
do
you
guys
think
about
these
priority
lists?
Do
you
think
we
should
make
something?
That's
high
priority,
more
lower
priority
or
lower
priority
higher
priority?
Should
we
add
some
things
to
this
list?
This
was
just
what
I
I
came
up
with
in
you
know
a
few
minutes
thinking
about
it.
D
Anyway,
I
don't
know
how
much
work
that
is
so.
D
A
D
The
only
other
aspect
that
I
think
is
important
is
that
some
of
the
making
people
aware
of
the
work
that
the
psf
is
doing,
I
think
we
could
probably
be
a
little
bit
more
assertive
in
that,
and
I
know
that
there's
some
funds
that
have
been
set
aside
for
that.
So
you
know
I,
I
see
our
work
from
the
non-programming
side
to
be
more
focused
on
that.
A
Okay,
that's
good
feedback,
that's
good
feedback!
Is
there
anything
specific
that
you'd
you'd
like
to
add
to
this.
A
D
That's
that's
kind
of
worth,
seeing
it
being
the
most
logical
I
didn't.
I
didn't
see
it
as
being
sort
of
a
separate
category.
I
just
saw
it
as
being
something
that
ties
in
with
each
of
the
priorities,
but
initiating
that,
so
that
we're
in
a
position
to
you
know
make
announcements
in
a
more
public
way.
A
Right
and
from
a
from
an
infrastructure
standpoint,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
can.
I
think
that
when
we
launch
the
you
know
we're
going
to
do
it
slowly,
but
I
think
that
once
we
are
in
full
swing
of
the
launch
of
the
slp
avalanche
bridge,
it's
going
to
get
a
lot
of
notice.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
our
infrastructure
is
in
place
where
it
can
handle
that.
C
E
C
A
E
C
A
A
Not
we
don't
totally
have
the
monetization
strategy
for
the
slp
bridge
worked
out
yet,
but
that's
been,
that's
been
really
good
so
far,
and
then,
of
course,
the
the
doc
there's
been,
there's
been
a
significant
uptake
in
people
joining
our
our
community
support
telegram
channel
for
bchjs
and
and
all
the
full
stack
dot
cash
tools
so,
and
there
has
been
a
significant
uptick
in
people
purchasing
monthly
subscriptions
to
increase
rate
limits
on
fullstack.cache,
so
that
kind
of
goes
goes
along
with
this,
even
though
this
is
more
of
a
behind
the
scenes
thing,
it
directly
affects
our
ability
to
stay
operational,
so
yeah
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
priorities.
A
Well,
yeah,
so
that's
that's
pretty
much.
What
was
on
the
agenda?
I'd
I'd
like
to
continue
this
conversation
in
in
the
permissionless
software
foundation,
telegram
channel.
So
if
people
watching
this
or
looking
at
the
agenda
have
some
feedback,
let's
definitely
continue
the
conversation
there
is
there
anything
else
that
you
guys
wanted
to
to
cover
in
this
meeting.
A
Okay,
okay,
well,
aaron!
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
introduce
you.
I
appreciate
you,
you
joining
it
and
before
we
started
recording
this,
we
had
a
pretty
good
conversation
about
nfts
and
virtual
reality
and
and
3d
imagery,
and
how
all
those
things
might
might
come
together.
So
I
appreciate
that
conversation
is.
F
Now
that
I
can
think
of
I'm,
you
know
I'm
just
interested
in
learning
and
trying
to
line
up.
You
got
to
use
lasers
to
line
this
stuff
up
to
get.
It
photographed
right,
it's
pain,
but
but
you
know
it's
a
part
of
the
physical
world.
That's
that's
why
I
like
the
computer
stuff
a
little
bit
better,
because
I
can
program
it
and
be
like
all
right.
I
know
it's
going
to
do
that.
You
know
with
this
stuff.
I
got
to
be
like
nudge,
nudge
nudge.
You
know.
A
In
the
digital
world,
so
you
know
so
aaron.
A
If
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
yet
I
recommend
watching
the
last
technical
steering
committee
meeting
stoyan
was
we
did
a
cup
like
a
quick
demo
of
some
of
the
the
nft
technology
that
stoyan's
been
working
on
and
he
showed.
E
A
Come
up
with
this
protocol
that
that
for
essentially
categorizing
nfts,
so
that
a
wallet
can
automatically
figure
out
like
oh,
this
nft
is
attached
to
a
video,
or
this
nft
is
attached
to
a
picture
or
a
music
file
or
something
else,
and
then
and
then
that
that
content,
that's
on
the
ipfs
network
or
it's
on
this
blockchain
or
it's
over
here
on
this
private
server.
And
so
a
wallet
can
just
automatically
figure
those
things
out
and
display
the
content.
A
So
when,
when
we
were
talking
earlier
about
combining
3d
3d
photography
with
virtual
reality
and
like
in
having
like
a
trophy
room
in
your
virtual
reality,
room
that
you
can.
E
A
On
and
then
and
then
open
the
media
that
protocol
that
he's
developed
is
is,
I
think,
is
a
clear
path
to
the
the
intersection
of
those
technologies
yeah.
If
we
can,
if
we
can
get
better
nft
support
in
our
web
wallet,
then
then
it's
a
it's
a
it's,
a
very
pragmatic
jump
from
there
to
get
some
sort
of
app
working.
I
don't
I'm
completely
ignorant
of
app
development
in
the
virtual
reality
space,
I'm
hoping
to
learn
more
about
just
what
it
would
take
to
to
build
tools
in
that
type
of
environment.
F
What's
nice
is
there
are
a
lot
of
people
working
on
it
just
like
there's
a
lot
of
people
working
on
crypto,
so
there's
a
lot
of
code
bases
and
a
lot
of
different
things
where
people
are
pioneering
it's
very
new,
but
that's
also
kind
of
what
it's
exciting.
You
know
so
yeah
I
I
saw
that
last
week
and
I'm
you
know
trying
to
digest
it
because
it's
pretty
complex
for
me,
but
I'm
still
still
getting.
F
You
know,
that's
where
he
was
attaching
like
a
url
location
to
one
token
right
and
then
that
would
reference
another.
A
F
Yeah
yeah,
that's
that
is
really
cool
and
yeah.
I
definitely
see
an
avenue
for
this
and
and
that's
one
of
those
when
I'm
thinking
of
nfts,
I
think
there
is
a
lot
more
than
meets
the
eye
and
a
lot
more
than
what
people
think
and
I've
had
people
go
well,
what's
the
point
you
know
like
you
can
copy
this
picture.
You
can
copy
this
audio
and
there's
more
to
that
to
it
than
that.
F
You
know,
and
I
I
think
there
are
ways
that,
if,
if
it
can
be
secured,
these
nfts
now
become
keys
to
unlocking
the
assets
essentially
right.
E
F
And
then
you
it's
no
different
than
having
a
physical
possession
in
your
house
and
you
can
go
and
sell
that
on
craigslist
and
now
it's
that
other
person's
possession.
Well,
it's
the
same
thing
with
with
digital
assets,
and
you
know
I
I
see
the
space
like.
I
said.
I
see
the
space
moving
in
that
direction
to
where
we're
digitizing
the
world
and
able
to
sell
that
to
within
10
years.
I
think
we'll
be
selling
digital
spaces
to
the
average
person
to
populate
on
their
phone
or
vr
or
on
a
compute
desktop.
F
You
know
you
name
it
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
be
seeing
dome
televisions
very
shortly.
F
That's
part
of
the
reason
I
got
into
the
360
stuff
led
screens
can
be
curved
if
they
can
be
curved,
they
can
be
made
into
a
dome
if
they
can
be
made
into
a
dome.
They
can
project
360
video
on
to
that,
and
it's
it's
going
to
start
like
cell
phones.
You
know
where
really
rich
people
have
domed
televisions
and
it's
going
to
move
into
the
average
home
very
quickly
and
we're
going
to
go
from
saying.
How
did
we?
You
know
we're
eventually
we're
going
to
say
how
did
we
ever
watch
on
a
box.
F
A
E
F
Well
and
then
the
quest
does
that
too
I
mean
the
quest
price
point
for
a
freestanding,
vr
headset.
You
know
you
can
get
in
at
300
bucks.
That's
nuts,
I
mean
the
software
can
get
a
little
expensive,
but
if
you're
savvy
enough,
you
can
sideload
free
games
from
anywhere
on
the
internet.
You
know
you
can
play
those
games
on
your
headset
or
you
can.
If
you
have
a
pc
like,
I
can
run
pc,
vr
games
and
stream
them
to
the
request.
F
I
don't
even
need
a
connection
and
that's
really
really
cool
and
so
yeah.
I
definitely
see
that
there
is
this
huge
space
for
this
stuff
and
it's
going
to
take
a
while
to
develop,
but
once
it
does
you're
going
to
see
craigslist
for
nfts
selling
digital
assets,
whether
it's
a
token
for
you
know
climbing
mount
everest
or
it's.
You
know
some
piece
of
software
that
you
you
load
into
a
game
because
they
already
do
that.
For
like
unity,
has
its
asset
store
right?
Well,
it's
centralized.
A
There's
there's
two
things
here:
there's
there's
the
actual
development
of
the
nft
industry,
but
then
there's
the
secondary
market
for
trading
nfts
and
tokens
and
coins,
and
so
that
that
pay
to
pay
to
write
database
that
I
was
talking
about.
That's
in
my
view.
That's
our
key
to
getting
to
a
secondary
market
where
people
can
freely
trade,
these
nft
assets
and
other
types
of
assets.
E
A
Community
committee
and
our
technical
steering
committee
they're,
intended
to
when
we
reach
a
big
enough
size
to
where
we
have
enough
people
they're
intended
to
spin
out
subgroups
and,
and
so,
if
there's,
if,
if
the
industry
interest
in
nfts
continues
to
build,
and
we
can
get
enough
of
a
consortium
of
interested
businesses.
I'd
I'd
love
for
our
technical
steering
committee
to
spin
off,
like
an
nft
group
that
just
focuses
on
nft
technology.
A
Composed
of
developers
and
businesses
that
that
are
interested
that
have
a
you
know,
economic
stake
in
in
that
in
that
industry.
F
Well,
I
totally
agree,
and
I
I
think
you
need
both
of
what
you're
talking
about
you
know
developing
stuff
on
ipfs
and
being
able
to
to
run
stuff
that
way,
developing
the
permissions
software
permissionless
software
and
developing
the
nfts
there's
going
to
be
a
market
for
onboarding,
a
lot
of
these
companies
and
because
people
just
don't
quite
understand,
but
they
can
use
the
functionality.
F
I
I
like
the
idea
of
utilizing
a
smart
contract
with
an
nft
to
where
all
right
when
say
you
create
a
piece
of
code
and
you
lock
that
up
on
the
ipfs
site
with
token,
and
then
somebody
sells
your
token
while
you
get
a
little
bit
back
from
that
sale.
I
I
like
that
idea.
I.
A
Think
that's.
What
is
really
a
lot
of
the
reason
why
artists
are
getting
so
attracted
to
nfts
is
that
exact
use
case?
I've
had
a
chance
to
talk
with
several
artists
over
the
last
couple
months
and
they
all
say
that
same
thing
that
ability
to
track
a
sale
on
the
blockchain,
and
then
I
I've
even
talked
to
artists,
who
already
have
the
claws
written
into
their
contract,
that
if
you
sell
this
artwork,
I
get
like
five
percent
of
that
sale.
But
but
even.
E
A
F
Well-
and
I
you
look
at
it
this
way
too,
so
I
don't
think
that
we're
look
at
spotify's
how
they
do
things
everything's
from
their
central
server.
You
pay
an
access
fee
and
then
you
access
whatever
and
then
the
artists
are
at
the
whim
of
spotify
all
right
now.
Imagine
you,
as
an
artist
upload
your
album
to
an
ipfs
website,
that's
protected
through
an
nft
token.
F
You
sell
that
nft
token
and
somebody
would
load
that
nft
token
into
their
itunes
program,
something
like
itunes.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
itunes.
That
program
would
basically
unlock
the
functionality
of
being
able
to
stream
that
music.
Now
you
can
add
stuff
to
the
ipff's
website,
such
as
it's
looking
for
background
information,
so
you
can
prevent
something
like
sound
cloud
or
not.
F
Sound
clouds,
sound
flower-
I
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
that
software,
but
it
allows
you
to
route
audio
from
one
location
of
your
on
your
computer,
like
your
audio
card
into
a
digital
audio
workstation.
F
So
it's
really
easy
to
copy
any
song
you
want,
so
you
could
essentially
pay
it
for
a
month
subscription
of
spotify
and
rip
every
song.
You
want
into
your
digital
audio
workstation
chop
them
up
and
make
your
own
wav
files
and
then
cancel
your
subscription
right.
So,
like
there's
a
question
of
how
do
you
prevent
that
as
an
artist?
F
Well,
if
you
have
a
program
on
the
ipfs
website
in
which
the
the
data
is
stored,
then
it
can
do
something
like
running
background
checks
on
on
processing
to
make
sure
that
that's
not
happening
now,
you're,
never
going
to
prevent
somebody
from
taking
the
output
running
it
into
another,
a
to
d
and
into
another
computer.
That's
just
not
going
to
happen,
but
you
have
to
find
that
sweet
spot
where
you
make
it
easy
enough
for
the
consumer.
That
pirating
is
too
hard
right
right,
right.
F
Exactly
exactly
exactly
and
then
wouldn't
it
be
nice
like
that
we
used
to
have
secondhand
cd
markets
and
record
stores
right
well.
This
allows
for
that
again
now
you
own
this,
and
now
you
can
sell
this.
You
know-
and
I
think
that's
a
pretty
cool
thing
as
well
or
you're.
Talking
artists
say
you
have
an
nft
page
for
an
artist
before
the
encryption
stuff
starts
up.
Something
that'd
be
really
easy
for
artists.
Right
now
is
to
say
all
right,
I'm
going
to
create
an
a
website
on
ipfs,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
ipfs.
F
I
just
prefer
it.
You
know,
because
I
think
it's
the
future
and
then
I'm
going
to
sell
it
a
token
that
has
the
url
address
of
that
website
right
and
then
I'm
going.
This
is
where
I'm
going
to
post
my
next
single
before
it's
online
and
I'm
going
to
sell
this
token
to
my
base
fans,
my
base
thousand
fans
right
and
then
I'm
going
to
just
rotate
the
content.
That's
on
there.
So
now
this
token
becomes
this
special
access
content,
token
and
so
you're
you're
driving
interest
to
your
fans.
That
way.
A
See
I
can
see
technologically
how
every
step
of
that
would
be
accomplished,
so
I'd
I'd,
love
it
if
a
business
or
an
entrepreneur
like
came
in
to
the
psf
community,
and
we
could
show
them
how
to
fork
our
software
walk
them
through
the
landscape
of
everything
they
need
to
know.
In
order
to
achieve
an
app
like
that,
like
for
artists
to
publish
music
and
sell
directly
to
customers
or
to
consumers-
and
you
know
like
like
that
technology
exists,
it
can
be
done
today.
I
know
how
to
do
it.
A
D
Let's
wrap
up
and
connect
with
him
directly.
I
I
mean
he's
got
some
great
ideas
that
harry
is
back
again.
Oh
there,
you
are.
A
F
I
noticed
you
said
in
the
telegram
you
have
two
separate
telegrams:
one
is
for
permission,
software,
promotional
software,
and
then
there
was
another
one
for
discussion.
Technical
stuff.
Would
that
be
the
place
to
have
technical
discussions?
The
second
one.
E
F
I'm
gonna
upload
the
buffalo
bison
skull
that
I
did
yesterday.
I've
already
uploaded
ipfs,
it's
just
a
javascript
right
now.
You
can't
download
the
obj
file,
but
you
guys
can
check
it
out
so
I'll
put
that
in
the
chat
and
telegram
looking
forward
to
it.
Yeah.
A
A
Likewise,
aaron
all
right,
thanks
guys
for
attending
the
meeting
today,
we'll
have
another
com
com
in
two
weeks
and
same
time.
Next
week
we'll
have
the
next
technical
steering
committee
meeting
cheers.