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From YouTube: PSF CommComm Meeting - 04/07/2021
Description
Agenda for this meeting:
https://github.com/Permissionless-Software-Foundation/community-committee/issues/8
Our homepage:
https://PSFoundation.cash
Our Telegram channel:
https://t.me/permissionless_software
B
C
B
B
All
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
kicked
this
off.
I
am
chris
troutner.
I
helped
found
the
permissionless
software
foundation
and
I
maintain
fullstack.cash.
This
is
the
community
committee
meeting
for
the
permissionless
software
foundation
go
ahead
and
introduce
yourself
there,
david.
A
Sure
my
name
is
david
r
allen.
I
am
the
business
I'm
helping
out
with
business
development
for
the
psf
and
yeah.
That's
basically,
it.
B
Right
on-
and
we
have
a
a
new
joiner
today-
steve
if
you
want
to
introduce
yourself,
steve
that'd,
be
great.
Otherwise
we
can
wait
till
the
the
end
of
the
agenda.
C
I
don't
mind
yeah.
My
name
is
steve:
tate
from
glastonbury,
I'm
a
new
developer
and
I've
been
working
with
the
permission
of
software
foundations,
software,
especially
message.fullstack.cache,
and
I
kind
of
represent
like
the
end
user
and
maybe
some
recommendations
I
have
to
offer,
and
also
maybe
some
of
the
problems
in
the
free
speech
scene
that
this
application
software
you're
producing
will
help
to
address
so
yeah.
That's
basically
me.
B
D
B
Hey
you
made
it
man
we're
live
on
youtube
by
the
way.
Oh
hello,
audience,
yeah
we're
just
we're
just
doing
a
round
of
introductions.
So
why
don't
you
go
ahead
and
introduce
introduce
yourself.
B
Right
on
well
good,
I'm
glad
we
got
a
a
good
little
crew
here,
the
agenda's
fairly
small.
Let's
go
ahead
and
I'll
bring
that.
B
B
It
is
to
create
a
slush
fund
of
ten
thousand
psf
tokens
in
order
to
pay
for
thing
for,
like
unexpected
costs,
tips,
bounties
hackathon
prizes,
those
sorts
of
things
just
just
basically,
community
growth,
the
the
voting
tokens
were
air
dropped
a
couple
weeks
ago,
and
the
voting
is
going
to
finish
tomorrow.
B
No,
those
are
the
no
votes.
There's
currently
two
thou
a
little
bit
more
than
two
thousand
out
of
ten
thousand
tokens
for
a
yes
vote
and
I
don't
think
there's
any
tokens
for
a
no
vote.
So
these
types
of
expenditures
for
community
building
have
historically
been
popular
with
the
community.
So
I
didn't
expect
a
strong,
no
vote
against
that.
So
it
looks
like
it's
gonna
go
through
tomorrow
at
noon,
we'll
complete
the
the
votes.
B
So
if
anybody
has
not
voted
yet
be
sure
to
do
that
before
tomorrow
and
yeah
that'll
be
great,
then
we'll
have
a
fund
for
for
bounties.
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
one
last
time
before
the
vote
is
finalized.
Does
anybody
have
any
comments
on
the
on
that
proposal
and
the
voting
process
for
it.
B
Okay,
so
we
can
move
on.
The
only
other
thing
that
I
have
in
the
agenda
is
the
this
upcoming
avalanche
slp
bridge
we're
wrapping
up,
and
so
what
it's?
For?
For
people
who
who
are
not
familiar
with
this,
yet
it
will
allow
you
to
essentially
send
slp
tokens
it'll,
be
it
won't
be
generally.
For
the
first
thing
I
need
to
point
out
is
it
won't
generally
work
for
all
tokens?
B
It'll
only
work
for
very
specific
tokens
that
have
had
bridges
set
up
for
them,
so
the
psf
is
going
to
set
up
a
bridge
for
the
psf
token
and
we'll
set
up
a
bridge
for
other
tokens.
First
off
we'll
we'll
create
like
just
sort
of
a
fun
token,
with
like
a
faucet
where
you
can
just
go,
get
the
tokens
and
play
with
this
bridge.
B
But
what
it
does
essentially
is
when
you
send
your
tokens
to
the
bitcoin
cash
side
of
the
bridge,
it
will
burn
those
tokens
and
then
it
will
create
new
tokens
on
the
avalanche
side
and
then
send
them
to
an
address
that
you
specified
when
you
sent
the
tokens
it
so
it'll
it'll
require
two
transactions
on
the
bitcoin
cash
side.
We'll
have
an
app
that
does
it
so
that
people
don't
need
to
think
about
those
specifics
and
then
it'll
also
work
the
other
way
on
the
avalanche
side.
B
You
can
send
these
tokens
to
the
bridge,
specify
where,
on
the
bitcoin
cash
side,
those
tokens
should
be
sent,
and
so
it
will
let
you
transfer
tokens
between
block
chains
and
then
we're
we'll
also
going
to
set
up
a
similar
bridge
between
bitcoin
cash
and
bcha
or
ecash,
so
we'll
be
able
to
bridge
all
three
blockchains.
B
So
the
idea
is
cool.
The
tech
is
there
almost
there.
B
There
is
some
sort
of
concerns
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
in
this
meeting
since
it
it
kind
of
affects
the
community
is
so
there's
we
already
have
the
token
liquidity
app
on
the
bitcoin
cash
chain.
We'd
all
like
to
see
one
on
the
e
cash
chain.
I'd
also
like
to
see
one
on
the
avalanche
chain,
so
that
people
can
exchange
psf
tokens
for
the
the
native
currency
on
those
chains.
B
So
that's
three
pieces
of
software
and
then
there's
the
bridge
between
bitcoin
cash
and
opex
and
there's
the
bridge
between
bitcoin
cash
and
ecash,
and
so
that's
that's
five
pieces
of
software
to
maintain.
So
it's
a
pretty
heavy
maintenance
burden,
and
I
really
just
wanted
to
get
some
thoughts
from
somebody
other
than
me
on
on
what
should
we
do
about
that
maintenance
burden?
Who
should
bear
the
burden?
How
should
we
go
about
managing
that
burden?
B
B
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
the
ecash
side,
because
it's
just
a
fork
of
bitcoin
cash.
So
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
difference
there.
So
we
definitely
have
the
talent
it's
it's
just
a
matter
of
of
managing
this
technical
debt.
Also,
all
five
pieces
of
software
have
the
ability
to
you,
know,
burn
or
destroy
or
get
hacked
or
otherwise
like
lose.
Lose
money,
lose
things
with
a
market
value
to
it.
So
that's
that's
the
other
like
concern.
It's
not
just
maintaining
it
from
a
standard
software
perspective.
B
E
Said,
or
are
there
any
possible
ways
to
kind
of
like
have
the
bridges
create
some
sort
of
revenue
that
maybe
you
know
they
could
sell
fund,
at
least
at
the
very
least
like
the
maintenance.
B
That's
a
really
good
idea:
yeah,
we
could
certainly
introduce
a
fee.
I
hadn't
really
explored
that
idea.
I
don't
know
why
it
hadn't
really
occurred
to
me
to
do
that.
So
that's
a
really
good
idea,
and
that
would
be
a
very
direct
way
to
to
sort
of
solve
that
problem
of
the
maintenance
burden.
B
You
know
that
that's
good
for
that's
good
for
the
token,
and
so
there's
that
and
then
of
course,
other
people
will
probably
want
to
have
their
own
bridge,
and
so
that's
that's
another
potential
source
of
revenue
is
having
you
know
the
developers
that
are
part
of
our
community
who's
familiar
with
this
technology.
E
I
think
it'd
be,
I
think,
it'd
be
pretty
well
received
just
because
you
know
like
the
the
avalanche
ethereum
bridge
just
because
the
gas
fees
are
so
high.
You
know
it
costs
like
60
to
100
bucks
just
to
just
go
one
way.
So
if
you
just
tack
on
50
cents
worth
of
avalanche
or
bitcoin
cash
or
ecash,
or
whichever
way
it's
going,
you
know,
I
don't
think
anyone
will
notice.
B
B
We
don't
have
to
worry
about
our
token
being
manipulated
by
exchanges,
but
the
app
provides
perfect
liquidity
between
our
token
and
the
underlying
asset
bitcoin
cash,
and
I'm
wondering
if,
like
probably
I'm,
I'm
sort
of
leaning
towards
just
having
the
one
token
liquidity
app
on
bitcoin
cash
or
or
pick
one
chain.
It
could
change
and
then
use
the
bridges
to
bring
the
tokens
into
that
chain.
B
If
people
want
to
cash
out
of
the
token
into
a
native
asset
versus
trying
to
maintain,
you
know
three
different
copies
of
the
token
liquidity
app
on
each
chain,
but
there's
there's
definitely
trade-offs
to
that
decision,
and
it's
not
something
that
we
need
to
decide
right
now.
We
can
definitely
just
I'm
more
in
the
spirit
of
just
getting
a
conversation
going
about
that
and
exploring
pros
and
cons
I
mean
one
con
is,
that
is
the
maintenance
and
that
and
the
attack
vector
the
risks
of
like.
B
If
we
have
a
token
liquidity
app
on
each
chain,
then
there's
the
potential
in
each
chain
for
each
individual
app
to
like
get
hacked
or
have
a
bug
or
lose
money
some
way,
or
just
just
the
time
and
maintenance
burden
versus
having
it
on
one
chain.
That
lowers
the
maintenance
burden,
but
it
makes
it
less
convenient
for
people.
Anybody
say
on
the
avalanche.
B
E
Yeah,
I
know
it's,
I
don't
know
about
that.
A
It
already
exists
on
the
the
token
liquidity
app
already
exists
on
the
bch
chain
so
and
that
that's
working,
creating
the
extra
technical
debt
around
going
to
avalanche,
which
I
I
think
is
still
very
much
under
development
and
as
well
on
the
ecash
side.
So
maybe
maybe
it's
best,
just
in
the
short
term,
to
the
plan
around
keeping
it
on
the
one
chain.
On
bch.
A
Term
think
it
sort
of
puts
the
impetus
for
the
development
on
the
other
chains
on
the
other
chains.
So
you
know,
obviously,
if
it's
working,
they
might
want
to
see
it
on
their
chain
and
you
know,
and
to
fund
that
development
we
know.
Bch
has
a
variety
of
funding.
Mechanisms
and
avalanche
has
a
variety
of
different
kinds
of
funding
mechanisms.
So
these
are
just
things
to
consider
both
with
the
staffing
challenges
and
with
funding.
B
Yeah,
that's
a
really
good
point
david,
I
mean
ideally
building
this
bridge
and
getting
it
functional
will
encourage
more
developers
on
the
other
chains
or
on
on
all
three
chains
to
to
join
this
community
and
yeah,
maybe
take
up
arms
and-
and
you
know,
sort
of
do
some
of
the
heavy
lifting
just
because
it's
something
they
want
on
a
personal
level.
B
Yeah:
okay!
Well,
let's,
let's
continue
this
conversation
in
the
telegram
channels,
particularly
the
the
vip
channel.
If
there's
any
vip
members
of
the
psf
that
that
have
strong
opinions
on
this,
I
I
definitely
want
to
hear
it
and
I
want
to.
I
want
to
hear
you
voice
it
on
the
vip
channel,
but
also
in
the
in
the
more
general
telegram
channel.
This
would
be
a
great
discussion
to
pick
up
yeah.
I
think
we
pretty
much
touched
on
all
three
of
those
points.
We
discussed
the
technical
challenges
of
supporting
multiple
blockchains.
B
We
discussed
staffing
challenges
and
funding,
and-
and
I
think
we
we
touched
on
a
few
ways-
that
this
tech
could
grow
our
community.
Well,
that's
pretty
much
the
agenda
steve!
You
had
some
thoughts.
Why
don't
you
yeah
expand
on
on
what
you're
saying
in
the
introduction
and
and
just
some
of
some
of
your
thoughts
and
I'd
love
to
hear
how
you've
been
inspired
by
the
work
that
we're
doing
in
this
community
and
sort
of
yeah.
C
Well,
I've
been
in
radio
in
the
underground
scene
since
9
11
yeah
and
I
used
to
be
from
the
info
underground.com
and
you
know
doing
the
stuff
on
the
bankers
and
stuff
like
that,
and
I
found
that
when
we're
releasing
podcasts
for
radios,
one
of
the
main
applications
for,
for
example,
ipfs,
which
is
kind
of
how
I
bumped
into
you
guys,
was
having
ipfs
links
to
podcasts,
which
had
been
censored
either
through
deep
packet
inspection
or
something,
and
we
couldn't
actually
gain
access
to
our
links,
except
through
a
vpn.
C
Now
we're
reaching
a
point
today
where
we
can't
actually
access
even
through
vpn.
Some
of
these
links,
for
example
in
sync,
we're
having
real
major
problems
and
I'm
trying
to
set
an
example
for
the
others
by
using
ipfs
links
to
my
podcasts
when
I'm
on
the
guest
on
the
show
or
when
I'm
a
caller
and
in
the
comments
sections
I
post
these
ipfs
links
and
they
always
get
through,
and
so
I
thought.
Okay,
I'm
going
to
push
ipfs
more
and
then
I
came
across
the
permission.
C
The
software
foundation
and
I
was
looking
at
how
the
novel
use
of
bitcoin
cash
with
ipfs
in
a
docker
container
to
produce
a
canned
package,
white
label
that
could
be
replicated
and
the
immediate
obvious
implications
were
for
the
underground
radio
scene,
particularly
the
american
audience
quite
well
known
in
america.
So
I
started
working
with
that.
I
worked
with
like
a
raspberry
pi,
but
I
had
to
go
on
to
ubuntu.
C
I
was
kind
of
looking
at
how
easy
it
is
to
actually
follow
the
tutorials,
for
example,
and
to
replicate
this
for
various
sites
within
the
scene.
So
if
you
go
to
grissom.blogspot.com
or
mama's,
as
it's
known,
there's
lots.
It's
like
a
podcast
aggregator
of
the
whole
free
speech
scene
in
one
and
there's
a
bit
of
a
scene
there
and
most
of
the
other
scenes
bolt
onto
that
and
release
their
audios.
C
Now
the
problem
is
it's
heavily
sensitive
so
by
showing
these
ipfs
links
and
that
there
was
packages
available
with
kind
permission
from
yourselves
that
we
will
be
able
to
to
work
with
things
like
blackbird
9
and
these
bb-9s
trading
posts.
They
were
able
to
take
some
of
this
software
on
board
and
to
actually
try
and
implement
it.
C
So
I
was
looking,
for
example,
the
ipfs
upload
feature
that
you
have
within
your
software
and
possibly
maybe
make
some
recommendations
to
to
have
like
a
a
more
comprehensive
canned
package
for
the
newer
developers,
maybe
not
so
skilled,
so
these
features
are
actually
built
in
possibly
for
a
psf
token
reimbursement.
C
I
have
been
offered
work
to
develop
for
several
websites
on
your
white
label,
one
of
which
was
the
bundys.
I
believe
ammun
bundy
at
the
moment
who
they're
going
after
and
I've
been
speaking
to
one
of
his
group
called
patricia
a
king
and
they're
offering
to
pay,
but
I
don't
really
have
the
time
to
do
that.
I've
got
other
things
going,
but
I
would
love
to
sort
of
forward
these
people
onto
yourselves
in
terms
of
workload.
C
So
maybe
using
the
psf
token,
like
canned
packages
and
doing
deals
with
certain
groups
within
the
free
speech
scene,
could
actually
help
promote
the
permission
of
software
foundation.
Give
it
a
higher
profile,
give
it
a
direct
application
and
and
generally
sort
of
promote
a
wide
understanding
about
the
technical
implementation
requirements
needed
for
that,
and
there
are
essential
features
which
are
becoming
imperative
within
the
scene
at
the
moment.
So
the
ipfs
upload
feature
I
like
the
encrypted
ipfs
chat.
C
I
thought
it
was
genius
browser
to
browser
being
able
to
create
your
own
slp
token
yourself,
so
part
of
moving
the
free
speech
scene
onto
bitcoin
cash.
Wasn't
just
that
you
could
store
the
ipfs
hash
on
the
bitcoin
cash
network.
C
So
I
wouldn't
mind
if
and
with
the
rise
of
nfts,
obviously
as
well,
there's
another
application
there
if
we
were
able
to
sort
of
incentivize
the
psf
to
sort
of
work
more
with
the
free
speech
scene
to
promote
a
wider
tutorial
base
for
slightly
less
skilled
people
to
get
their
websites
upgraded.
C
I
think
this
could
have
big
ramifications
for
the
free
speech
scene
if
we
work
with
them.
So
I
I
think
I
do
have
some
other
stuff
written
down,
but
I
just
want
to
sort
of
hit
leave
it
to
the
floor.
If
anyone's
comment
on
that.
B
Man,
this
is
yeah.
This
is
really
encouraging
to
hear,
because
I
definitely
want
this,
this
psf
organization
community,
to
to
tap
into
we're
so
sort
of
we
started
out
very
bitcoin-centric
very
technology-centric,
and
I
want
us
to
to
that's.
The
whole
purpose
of
the
of
these
com-com
meetings
is
to
is
to
reach
out
to
the
non-technical
people,
who
are
like
the
free
speech,
people
who
are
interested
in
the
the
applications
of
this
technology.
B
For
for
humanitarian
reasons,
and
that's
one
of
the
the
things
that
I
struggle
with
personally
and
in
a
leadership
role
is,
is
sort
of
breaking
down
the
barriers
between
the
tech
side
and
the
humanitarian
side,
and
so
I
would
love
to
get
your
help
reaching
out
to
these
other
organizations
and,
from
speaking
from
experience,
the
the
challenge
that
we
have
with
these
types
of
organizations
is
the
same
challenge
we
have
with
with
businesses
in
that
there's
a
wide
gap
in
terms
of
technology
between
the
the
high
level,
things
that
they
want
to
do,
and
then
the
low
level
sort
of
realities,
the
nuts
and
bolts
that
need
to
happen
so
yeah.
B
So
you
so
you
listed
off.
You
know
several
things
there,
so
basically,
if,
if,
if
you
take
anything
away
from
what
I'm
saying
or
because
I'm
about
to
say
some
other
things
that
might
make
your
eyes
glaze
over,
but
basically
yes
definitely
want
to
reach
out
to
some
of
these
groups
and
work
with
them
and
the
child.
C
The
low
level
nuts
and
bolts
can
I
just
comment
on
that.
Chris
just
points
I
like
the
fact
you
can
take
the
ipfs
hash
when
you're
serving
it
up
and
put
it
on
the
dot
if
domain
on
unstoppable
domains,
and
then
you
can
use
dns
to
get
a
dot
link
on
the
end
of
that,
and
I
I
actually
quite
like
that:
application
with
unstoppable
domains
and
the
dot
eth
and
the
dot
link
and
the
other
one
is
the
apk.
C
If
you
could
release
like
a
working
android
air
pack
for
mobile
devices
that
could
perhaps
help
in
that
respect.
You
know
in
terms
of
usability
for
the
end
user,
much
much
more,
perhaps
directly
applicable.
You
know,
because
people
just
want
the
android
apac
download
it
there.
It
is
it's
working,
and
so
maybe
maybe
some
work
with
the
android
there
and
referencing,
perhaps
unstoppable
domains
and
the
application
there
to
host
your
website
the
text
record
as
a
dot
eth
rather
than
say
on
a
conventional
central
server.
C
You
know
to
actually
put
it
on
the
ipfs
to
get
a
link
and
you've
got
a
http
link.
Haven't
you
so
I
think
those
were
two
things
in
terms
of
accessibility
to
lower
end
users
that
could
maybe
sort
of
help
you
there
with.
B
Those
are
good
points,
those
are
good
points
and
we're
actually
exploring
both
of
them.
In
fact,
the
apk
we
have.
We
have
an
apk
for
wallet.fullstack.cache.
We
haven't
yet
put
one
out
for
message.fullstack.cache,
because
there's
there's
some
challenges
around
the
rate
limit
so
but
we've
definitely
been
exploring
taking
our
web
apps
and
then
converting
them
into
a
native
android.
App
daniel,
in
particular,
has
been
been
leading
that
up
and
it's
been
going
really
good.
We
really
just
have
a
couple
minor
technical
challenges
to
figure
out
before.
B
That's,
basically
what
we're
going
to
do
to
all
of
our
products
like
message.fullstack.cache,
wallet.fullstack.cache
and
chat.fullstack.cache.
Those
are
all
going
to
have
their
own
android
native
apps.
We
probably
won't
bother
putting
them
in
the
store
because
they'll,
probably
just
get
banned,
but
what's
nice
about
android
is
that
you
can
just
generate
the
apks
and
anybody
can
grab
them
and
load
them
and
then
with
respect
to
unstoppable
domains.
B
I
think
I
think
you
know
I
I
produce
a
website
called
uncensorablepublishing.com
and
it
it's
the
same
idea
as
on
as
unstoppable
domains.
They're,
just
more
ease
focused
where
we're
more
bch
focused,
but
but
in
terms
of
like
what
we're
doing
and
how
we're
doing
it.
It's
largely
the
exact
same
thing,
but
I
think
I
need
to
just
bow
to
the
the
tide
of
popularity
and
and
embrace
that
unstoppable
domains,
way
of
doing
things
and
so
yeah
both
but
yeah
we're
both
looking
into
into
both
of
those
things
all
right.
B
B
That's
great,
you
know
a
couple
other
things.
You
said
that
I
wanted
to
just
touch
on
the
we're
exploring
in
terms
of
fighting
censorship,
yeah,
putting
the
content
on
ipfs
is
you
know
in
a
critical
first
step
and
then
there's
the
the
sort
of
the
hosting
of
the
ipfs
content,
having
having
some
host
of
last
resort
to
keep
the
content
on
the
network
is
important
and
so
that
that
ipfs
pinning
service?
That's
on
message.fullstack.cache,
you
know
that's
great,
because
it's
there's
there's
no
sign
up.
B
B
They
they
have
they're
the
ones
that
that's
the
the
pinning
service
behind
the
scenes
there
and
they
have
a
they're
they're
on
the
forefront
of
the
technology,
with
file
coin
and
so
file
coin.
B
It
was
created
to
be
that
sort
of
server
of
last
resort
and
to
be
able
to
retrieve
the
content
from
filecoin
when
nobody
on
the
active
ipfs
network
is
hosting
it
and
so
yeah
we're
definitely
exploring
that
and
and
anyways
like
that
is
to
say,
like
if
that's
of
an
interest
to
you,
I
I'm
happy
to
pass
on
any
knowledge.
B
I
have
on
that
and
and
work
with
you
on
on
pursuing,
I
I'm
I'm
very
big
on
fighting
censorship
and
making
it
impossible
for
for
state
actors
to
to
prevent
someone
from
accessing
information.
B
Absolutely
yeah,
okay,
well
steve,
where,
where?
Where
do
you
think
we
should
take
this
from
here
in
terms
of
reaching
out
to
some
of
these
communities?.
C
I
think
there's
two
main
types
that
that
come
to
me,
one
of
those
who
I've
got
to
say
publishing
that
they've
made
their
own
book
yeah
and
they
can't
get
a
publisher
say
like
in
hard
form
so
they're
having
to
use
like
pdfs
having
those
guys
have
some
sort
of
publishing
via
ipfs,
but
also
like
getting
the
distribution
as
well.
So
it
becomes
like
widely
disputed.
That
could
be
good.
C
The
other
one
is
podcasts,
as
I've
mentioned,
so
you
know
getting
to
each
of
the
main
sort
of
free
speech
sites,
mainly
those
who've
gone
about
the
bankers,
to
be
honest
and
getting
those
guys
to
understand
the
not
just
the
technical
technicalities,
but
the
value
of
some
of
the
principles
you've
been
advocating
and
to
sort
of
move,
the
scene
and
the
movement
in
in
a
certain
direction.
C
Rather
because
most
of
the
people
like
saying
the
free
speech
scene,
a
lot
of
them
are
musicians
or
something
like
non-computer
literate,
for
example,
and
their
eyes
just
glaze
over
when
you
talk
about
ipfs
them,
but
you
know
like
the
power
of
it
in
terms
of
censorship,
resistance
and
distribution,
always
capable
of
so.
C
I
I
think
you'd
have
to
approach
each
of
the
individual
sites
from
the
jocks
and
then
you'd
have
to
go
to
the
authors
as
well,
for
the
more
document
oriented
rather
than
audio,
and
I
think
I
think,
basically,
the
chat
function.
The
ipfs
chat
function,
the
most
recently
been
working
on
that
I
find
very
intriguing
so
being
able
a
lot
of
people
have
built-in
chats
into
their
site
when
they're
going
like
they're
live
streaming.
C
C
Right,
well,
that's
interesting,
so
yeah
the
the
chat
function.
I
think
the
third
thing
to
take
away
is,
I
think
that
chat
function
is
actually
quite
important
and
yeah,
I
think,
and
the
browser
to
browser.
So
if
we
sort
of
push
those
three
things-
the
documents,
the
authors,
their
websites
and
those
people,
then
you've
got
the
jocks
and
their
sites.
Quite
often,
you
have
a
site
that
might
have
20
odd
30-year
jocks
like
freedom
slips
has
other
sites.
I
say
like
radio
album
they,
they
might
only
have
say
six
or
seven
quality.
C
I
think
some
of
it
is
more
important
than
others.
Some
of
it.
You
just
get
the
solo
crew,
but
the
audio
is
a
really
high
quality
of
high
quality
material.
So
I
think-
and
they
have
a
large
audience.
For
example,
no
agenda
is
very
good:
no
agenda
on
that.net,
which
is
like
a
standard
free
speech,
alt
light.
If
you
go
to
those
guys,
you
should
be
able
to
get
a
higher
profile
and
obviously
that
feeds
back
into
the
psf
tokens.
C
So
if
you
can
feed
them
towards
fullstack.cash
and
for
them
to
actually
pay
for
those
services
and
in
conjunction
with
the
the
android
app,
for
example,
and
the
dns
link
importantly,
I
think
it
could.
It
could
all
come
together.
It's
kind
of
like
weaving
a
tapestry,
so
you
end
up
having
the
pattern
at
the
end,
I
think
the
personal
relationships,
the
human
capital-
is
very
important
for
knowing
what
you're
directly
targeting
that
demographic
to
which
this
technology
is
directly
applicable,
not
just
by
the
way
within
the
english-speaking
western
world.
C
B
C
Burma
or
wherever
these
places
are
you
know
I
I
it
would
be
useful
to
perhaps
find
ambassadors
who
speak
both
languages
to
contribute
to
the
meetings,
not
just
the
state
of
their
free
speech
scene
and
what
their
requirements
are,
but
also
possibly
what
where
they
maybe
want
to
push
it
towards.
You
know:
are
there
some
like
unforeseen
things
that
they're
encountering
that
we
can
perhaps
adapt
to
so
yeah?
I
just
want
to
keep
it
short.
B
Yeah,
those
are
great
ideas.
Those
are
great
ideas,
so
make
sure
you
reach
out
to
me
one
way
or
the
other
either
you
know
telegrams
preferable
or
twitter
or
message.fullstack.com.
However,
you
want,
but
let's,
let's
touch,
let's
get
together
after
this.
I
definitely
want
to
sort
of
reach
out
to
some
of
these,
these
people
in
your
network
that
that
you
mentioned
yeah,
but
since
since
you've
got
a
bit
of
a
technical
background,
just
a
few
thoughts.
B
One
is
these
pay
to
write
databases,
and
so
it's
orbit
db
is
a
is
a
peer-to-peer
database
on
the
ipfs
network
and
I've
been
playing
with
their
code
and
getting
it
to
a
point
where
it's
a
it's
a
database
that
anybody
can
write
to.
But
in
order
to
write
to
it,
you
have
to
prove
that
you've
burned
a
token
like
a
psf
token
and
that's
your
ticket
to
write
to
the
database.
So
it's
the
incentive.
B
What
I
like
about
this
is
the
incentive
model,
but
in
terms
of
free
speech
it
would
it
would.
It
would
allow
people
a
place
to
like
a
blockchain
store
information,
that's
immutable
and
unsensible,
and
it's
unsensible,
because
it's
it's
shared
among
several
parties
who
have
an
incentive
to
to
maintain
it
and
then
shoot.
I
lost
my
train
of
thought.
There
was
there's
something
else
I
wanted
to.
I
wanted
to
point
out
to
you,
but
but
yeah.
D
B
Let's
definitely
get
together
after
this
offline
and
and
let's
talk
about
how
I
can
reach
out
to
some
of
these
other
people
in
the
free
speech
movement
that
you're
aware
of.
B
Cheers
buddy:
does
anybody
have
anything
else
they
want
to
talk
or
add
on
to
what
steve
said.
A
B
Okay,
well,
I
think
we
can
probably
call
that
a
wrap
always
surprised
at
how
productive
these
meetings
are.
B
Right
on,
okay,
guys,
you
cheers
thanks
for
attending
the
meeting.