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A
A
Okay,
there
we
go
and,
as
always
guys
help
me
keep
an
eye
on
comments
in
the
in
the
youtube
window.
I
won't
be
paying
attention
to
it.
A
Okay,
welcome
everybody
to
the
specific
permissionless
software
foundation.
Technical
steering
committee
today
is
wednesday
august
3rd
9
00
am
pst
time.
I
am
chris
trouttner
and
I
helped
found
the
psf
and
these
lovely
folks
here
contribute
to
it.
Let's
go
around
and
do
a
quick
round
of
introductions
go
ahead
and
kick
us
off
their
aaron
shoemaker.
B
My
name
is
aaron
shoemaker
and
I
deal
with
xr
development,
cryptocurrencies
ipfs,
all
that
good
stuff
and
utilizing
pfsf
software
to
do
so
so
nice.
C
Go
ahead:
aaron
simon,
hey,
aaron,
sonmen,
I'm
one
of
the
other
aarons
in
the
psf.
I've
been
a
big
fan
of
the
permissionless
software
foundation
because
just
the
the
the
ethos
idea
of
permissionless
innovation
around
the
world
allowing
anyone
to
jump
in
use
software,
that's
free
and
composable-
and
you
know
I'm
personally
using
it
to
to
to
to
take
the
idea
of
nfts
on
slp
on
bch
and
hopefully
on
ecash
as
well
and
and
working
on
those.
So
I'm
excited
to
be
a
part
of
it.
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
and
open
up
the
agenda.
So,
as
always,
our
agendas
are
on
github
under
the
permissionless
software
foundation,
github
group,
in
a
repository
called
tsc
for
technical
steering
committee
and
they're
filed
as
issues
and
so
they're
dated.
A
As
always,
the
scope
of
the
meeting
is
to
discuss
psf
core
software
and
more
info
on
that
can
be
found
at
cash
stack
dot
info,
so
here's
each
end
of
so
as
always
I'll
just
start
going
into
this,
and-
and
this
is
intended
to
be
a
conversation.
So
please
interrupt
me
and
and
and
we'll
we'll
just
go
from
there.
A
A
I'm
sure
you
occasionally
have
the
conversation
of
like
building
a
custom
app,
and
I
was
like
that's
what
full
stack
dot
cash
can
do
so
so
that
was
that
was
sort
of
how
it
got
kicked
off,
but
that
fiend
crypto
host
guy
he
he
just
asked
like
the
best
questions,
asked
me,
probably
the
best
three
questions
that
I
couldn't
even
come
up
with,
and
so
it
was
great.
A
So
I'm
gonna
take
the
mp3
of
that
and
put
it
on
the
full
stack
dot
cash
website,
and
so
pretty
excited
about
that
that
that
was
fun.
It's
a
lot
of
fun.
C
Yeah
I
jumped
in
for
quite
a
bit
of
it
and
really
enjoyed
just
the
interaction,
and
I
think
that
one
was
on
the
bitcoin
cash
independence
day
right.
I
think
it
was
august
first
that
that
one
was
on.
Oh,
I
didn't
think
about
that,
because
in
2017
we,
you
know
bch
split
from
btc
on
that
date,
and
that
was
so
anyway.
I
thought
it
was
very
enjoyable
and
I
think
I'll
be
joined
listening
to
those
more
often
as
it
goes.
So
I'm
glad
you're
there
as
well.
A
Yeah,
I
really
enjoy
them,
I'm
looking
forward
to
future
ones.
Okay,
diving
into
the
agenda
a
lot
of
movement
on
the
decks.
That's
been
a
huge
focus
of
mine
lately,
trying
to
wrap
up
the
the
grant
from
ava
labs,
as
well
as
the
grant
from
the
ecash
gnc.
A
So
I've
been
in
the
process
of
forking
a
lot
of
the
code
that
we
have
on
bch
onto
those
other
two
chains.
So
there
were
some
breaking
changes
in
the
avalanche,
full
nodes
that
that
broke,
minimal,
ovex
wallet,
which
is
a
fork
of
our
minimal
slp
wallet
and
so
those
so
those
got
fixed
so
that
library
is
now
working
and
then
I
additionally,
I
forked
it
and
created
minimal,
ecash
wallets!
So
what's
nice
about
these
libraries?
Is
it
abstracts
all
the
specific
details
of
the
blockchain?
You
have.
A
The
same
function
calls
to
create
a
wallet
to
send
coins
to
send
tokens
from
a
programmer
standpoint.
It
doesn't
matter
what
blockchain
you're
on
the
calls
are
the
same.
The
principles
are
the
same,
and
then
this
library
handles
all
the
blockchain
specific
things,
so
very
foundational
building
block.
In
fact,
one
thing
I
want
to
point
out
here
is
I
I
re.
I
changed
the
pinning
of
some
of
our
repositories,
so
I've
got
bchjs
and
bchjs
examples.
Bch
api,
those
haven't
changed,
but
I'm
starting
to
put
more
of
a
spotlight.
A
Yeah,
so
that
so
that's
a
good
foundation
for
for
all
the
dexes
I
forked
psf
bch
wallet,
which
is
our
command
line
wallet
and
created
psf
ecash
wallet.
So
again,
this
is
all
the
commands
are
the
same.
This
is
working
on
a
command
line.
So,
if
you
can
you
know
anything,
you
can
do
in
psf,
bch
wallet.
You
can
now
do
on
the
ecash
chain.
The
commands
are
the
same.
D
Chris,
I
have
a
question
for
when
you
focus
wallets
in
the
bch
in
this
sop:
one
it's
sending
the
always
a
small
amount
of
pcf
to
to
the
pcf
address
on
every
transaction.
What
happens
on
this
ibx
and
ecash.
A
A
I
don't
think
there
is
a
donation,
because
I
I
just
don't
have
a
donation
set
set
up
for
that,
so
that'll
probably
be
changed
in
the
future,
but
yeah.
That's
that's
a
good
question
yeah!
I
I
I
I
actually
I
have
to
think
about
that.
I'm
not
sure
I
don't
I'm
pretty
sure
it
was
just
never
put
into
the
the
minimal
obvious
wallet,
because
that
was
written
from
scratch.
That's
not
really
a
fork,
and
gary
did
most
of
that.
Writing
that's
why
I'm
I'm
foggy
on
it's
on
its
status.
C
A
That
that
is
a
good
question
and
you
know
ecash
used
to
be
like
that,
but
it's
not
anymore
because
they
changed
the
the
prefix
instead
of
the
bitcoin
cash
prefix.
On
an
address.
It's
now
ecash
and
that's
largely
what
bit
me
like
when
I
was
going
through.
These
libraries
is
the
note
itself
like
when
you're
getting
data
like
transaction
data
from
the
node
itself.
It's
not
using
legacy
addresses
it's
using
these
ecash
addresses
so
that
that
presents
like
a
you
know.
A
You've
got
to
do
that
sort
of
translation
when,
when
you're
moving
between
the
different
full
notes,
so
it's
not
as
simple
as
just
changing.
You
know
the
node.
You
know
the
url
that
you're
talking
to
yeah
but
yeah.
That
is
a
good
question.
A
Okay,
so
bchjs
also
got
updated
to
add
additional
support
for
ecash.
Again,
it
was
mostly
like
the
the
name,
the
main
chain,
the
main
differences
between
bitcoin
cash
ecash
at
this
point
is
the
name
the
address
prefix,
which
also
and
then
also
the
the
denomination
they
they're
using
bits
rather
than
satoshi's
and
the
the
full
node
is
still
working
in
satoshi's,
but
but
they
they're
making
a
really
big
push
in
that
whole
ecash
ecosystem.
A
To
use
this
new
denomination,
I
think
it's
a
little
confusing
all
right
and
then
for
anybody
who's
been
using
the
bch
decks.
I
have
an
nft
for
sale
up
there
and
nfts
have
to
be
handled
differently.
A
They
have
different
different
codes
and
stuff
to
move
them
around,
and
so
I
I
constantly
had
this
issue
where,
like
the
token,
was
up
there
and
then
I
needed
to
move
it
somewhere
and
I
couldn't
just
sweep
it
conveniently
like,
like
you
can
with
with
a
fungible
token,
so
I
added
this
sweep
nft
script
in
there.
So
there's
a
link
there.
If
anybody
wants
to
check
it
out.
A
So
it
can
just
stay
there
while
it's
up
for
sale
and
it
and
it
doesn't
accidentally
get
disturbed
because
because
if
the
utxo
is
spent,
then
all
the
other
dex
nodes
will
automatically
remove
that
token
from
their
inventory,
because
that's
that's
how
they
know
it's
not
valid,
as
if
the
utxo
has
been
spent
and
so
yeah.
A
So
so
I
had
a
script
that
would
go
through
all
the
addresses
that
that
the
decks
you
have
has
stored
tokens
on
to
sweep
them
all
into
the
root
address,
so
that
you
can,
then
you
know,
move
them
off
the
exchange,
but
I
didn't,
I
didn't,
have
that
same
functionality
for
an
nft,
so
this
this
will
help
that
I'm
you
know
it
iteratively
moving
towards
being
able
to
sell
nfts
on
the
decks
easily.
D
A
Well,
that's
a
great
yeah,
it's
not
quite
as
easy.
As
you
know,
wallet.fullstack.cache
has
the
sweep
feature.
It
does
not
support
nfts.
Yet
this
script
can
do
that.
You
can
basically
you
give
it
a
private
key,
which
is
the
paper
wallet
and
it,
and
then
you
can
tell
it
to
move
the
nft
somewhere,
but
in
terms
of
like
a
visual
graphical
user
interface,
it's
not
there
yet,
but
but
yeah
getting
close.
A
What
really
needs
to
happen
is
there's
a
there's,
a
javascript
library
that
handles
all
the
sweeping,
and
I
just
I
just
need
to
update
it
to
to
to
work
with
nfts
and
group
tokens,
and
so
until
I
get
the
time
to
do
that
because
there's
a
big
qa
step
involved
there.
D
C
A
Yeah,
you
know
I
mean
that's
been
in
that
having
that
feature
has
been
in
my
mind
for
a
while,
but
I
hadn't
thought
about
other
chains
like
no
one's
ever
heard
of
storing
an
nfp
on
a
paper
wallet
on
another
chain
like
ethereum.
D
There
was
not
so
use
it
until
now,
but
if
you
have
a
boat
ape
class,
nft
cost
like
for
100
it.
It
will
be
nice,
you
if
you
can
preserve
it
safely,
right.
C
That's
a
that's
a
big
deal
for
people
right
now
and
to
feel
like
you
know
what
I
also
have
you
know
this
is
very
much
could
you
know
could
be
a
on-demand.
You
know
bearer
instrument
right,
an
nft,
that's
a
bearer
instrument.
It
could
be
very
interesting.
I
mean,
I
think,
all
of
this
stuff
isn't
fully
explored
in
terms
of
the
idea
of
what
ownership
is
going
forward.
So
making
something
that
can
be
a
physical
thing
is
a
big
deal.
A
Yeah
well
those
those
old
school
like
the
where
the
case
cassius
coins
and
that
there
you
know,
there's,
there's
people
who
sell
you
know
really
nice
bills
with
the
tamp,
the
private
keys
under
a
tamper-proof
sticker
like
that.
I
think
that
use
case
makes
a
lot
more
sense
for
storing
an
nft,
because
then
you
could
put
you
know
you
could
put
it
in
a
picture
frame
and
put
it
up
in
your
wall.
Yep!
That's
that's
my
nft!
That's
where
it
is!
It's
actually
physically.
A
Yeah
well
yeah
and
I've
talked
to
a
few
artists
about
doing
that
of
you
know,
either
doing
a
tamper-proof
sticker
type
deal
or
an
rfid
tag,
something
or
a
combination
of
the
two.
It's
something
to
attach
the
physical
object
to
its
nft
representation.
C
A
A
A
Yeah
yeah:
well,
it's
just
yeah,
so
yeah,
it's
an
interesting
idea,
so
you
don't
actually
store.
That's
the
difference
between
address
versus
utxos
you're,
not
actually
storing
it
somewhere.
It's
it's
in
the
smart
contract.
That's
where
it
always
lives.
Yeah
you
just
either
have
access
to
it
or
you
don't
yeah,
okay!
Well,
so
moving
on
from
that's
the
dex
updates.
Moving
on
to
just
general
tech
updates
got
quite
a
bit
here,
so
this
pinning
service.
A
I
started
playing
with
this
when
I
was
on
vacation,
because
after
talking
with
aaron,
I
was
like
I
was
like
man
like
the
the
paid
right
database
really
does
a
lot
of
the
heavy
lifting
here
and
to
to
create,
like
an
alternative
cluster
type
system
for
pinning
ipfs
content
in
a
censorship-resistant
way.
A
You
know
it
really.
It
wouldn't
require
much
effort
on
top
of
what
already
exists
in
terms
of
the
paid
right
database.
So
I
created
this
pinning
service
repository
here
and
I'd
love
for
people
to
play
with
it.
A
I've
got
it
compiled
into
a
docker
container
that
runs
both
on
the
raspberry
pi
and
on
a
pc,
and
I've
got
two
nodes
stood
up
right
now
and
basically,
if
you
want
to
pin
some
content
right
now,
it's
you
can
do
it
by
running
this
command
in
psf,
bch
wallet
or
command
line
wallet.
This
will
issue.
A
This
pinning
service
will
pick
up
on
that
and
they
will
pin
the
cid,
and
so
I
ran
through
some
numbers,
and
fortunately
I
don't
have
them
in
front
of
me,
but
I
think
if
we
charge
one
penny
per
megabyte,
which
is
pretty
high
and
the
reason
it's
high
is
the
redundancy.
A
But
basically
I
did
some
back
of
the
envelope
math
and
if
we,
if
we
charge
a
penny
per
megabyte,
then
we
would
have
the
funding
to
offer
five
bounties
for
people
to
run
this
pinning
service,
and
I
think
it
was
like
ten
dollars
a
month
like
you
get
paid
ten
dollars.
So
it's
like
the
cost
of
running
a
vps
with
a
hundred
gigabyte.
A
Hard
drive
is
like
eight
dollars
a
month,
and
so
we
could
pay
ten
dollars
a
month
and
not
in
each
so
now,
and
that
would
ensure
that
we
have
five
nodes
on
the
network
and
that
are
that
are
getting
compensated
for
for
offering
the
service,
and
not
only
would
it
be
an
instance
of
the
paid
right
database
they'd
be
pinning
these
files,
which
is
you
know.
The
whole
point
is
to
keep
it
decentralized
and
censorship
resistant.
A
We
don't
and
we
don't
need
to
know
who
they
are
or
where
they
are,
and
it
also
would
would
get
more
circuit
relays
as
part
of
the
bounty
we
could.
You
can
configure
this
to
be
a
circuit
relay,
in
addition
to
being
a
paid
right.
Database
instance,
in
addition
to
being
a
file
pinning
service,
so
they
would
all
run
together.
They'd
all
be
part
of
the
bounty,
and
that
would
really
give
us
a
very
robust
network.
A
So
I'm
really
liking
the
math
here
like
because,
because
five
nodes
is,
you
know
it's
not
a
lot,
but
it
it's
a
it's
enough
and,
and
it
would
pay
for
itself
it
would
be
completely
sustainable.
C
A
Yeah,
exactly
like
I
love
web3.storage
is
such
a
convenient
way
to
get
files
onto
filecoin,
but
that
doesn't
mean
they're
accessible
that
whole
part
that
goes
from
file
coin
back
to
ipfs.
A
B
Yeah
it's
and
then
you
also
you
don't
know
where,
where
the
storage
is
actually
at,
if
they're
using
aws,
you
know,
aws
is
notorious
for
just
saying:
you're
done,
you
know,
so
you
know
doing
stuff
like
this,
that
you
know
this
is
part
of
the
reason
I
was
looking
into
ipves
clusters
in
the
first
place,
we're
slowly
getting
nodes,
distributed
to
kind
of
run
some
tests
on
a
localized
basis,
because
I
really
want
to
have
that
data
of
like
how
does
this
stuff
work
in
the
real
world
on
a
local
basis
with
15
machines.
B
A
B
B
You
have
to
call
through
their
gateway,
and
then
it
has
a
limit
on
the
api
calls
through
that
gateway,
timeout
limit,
and
then
they
make
you
pay
like
10
a
month.
If
you
want
to
remove
that
limit,
well,
how's
that
that
much
different
than
aws
oracle
azure,
you
know
blue
ocean
or
digitalocean,
except
it's
slower.
B
C
A
Yeah,
so
I'm
glad
you
said
that
because
it
made
me
think
of
something
I
almost
forgot
about,
and
that
is
proof
of
space
and
time.
Filecoin
has
really
invested
a
lot
of
money
in
this
proof
of
space
and
time
so
that
people
can't
spoof
the
pin
like
the
pinning
of
files.
They
can't
just
be
like
yeah.
I
have
this
file
pinned
and
then,
when
you
request
it,
they
just
go,
get
it
real,
quick
and
then
serve
it.
So
it
looks
like
they
have
it,
but
they're
not
actually
storing
it.
A
It's
a
pretty
hard
problem,
and
I
don't
know
much
about
that
proof,
and
so
that's
that's
also
a
concern
here
is
if
we
had
these
bounties.
If
you
look.
B
At
so,
if
you
utilize,
ipfs
cluster
control,
you
can
do
an
ipfs
cluster
control,
pins
list
and
in
those
in
those
selections
there
you
can
see
how
many
times
it's
pinned
and
where
it's
pinned
into
what
machines
it's
packed.
A
B
And
I
think,
there's
a
way
even
to
see
how
long
it's
been
pinned.
You
know
on
those
those
machines,
so
it
would
be
something
like
I
mean.
If,
if
not
you
could
do
institute
randomized
checking
or
like
so
you
don't
get.
Somebody
is
like.
Oh
it's,
the
fifth
of
the
month.
I
know
they
always
check
for
the
pins.
Let
me
get
this
pinned
again.
You
know,
but
also
yeah.
Here's
the
other
thing,
though
too.
B
If
these
nodes
are
running
as
are
not
the
trusted
peers,
so
that's
the
difference
in
the
ipfs
cluster
is
when
you
make
that
json,
you
have
trusted
peers.
So
if
you
only
have
one
or
two
trusted
peers,
they're,
the
only
ones
that
can
create
pinning
so
if
you're
running
an
ipfs
cluster
service
node
but
you're,
not
a
trusted
peer
or
you're
running
the
doing
the
peer
follow
or
the
follow
peer
node.
You.
A
B
Control
over
pinning
your
data
interesting,
so
you
will
pin
what
the
ipfs
cluster
control
says
to
pin
unless
you
take
your
note
off
the
network,
so
it's
actually
removes
that
step
of
having
to
go
well.
Are
they
pinning
it
because
there's
only
one
way
it
could
be
pinned
and
that's
from
the
cluster
control
saying,
pin
this
file?
That's.
A
Good
man,
I'm
glad
that
you
have
this
knowledge
about
how
the
clusters
dude.
B
I've
been
reading,
I've
read
so
much
into
ipfs
clusters,
documentation
and
their
code,
and
you
know
how
they
how
they
work
everything.
It's
it's
a
great
thing.
I
really
wish
there
was
some
sort
of
geolocation
type
of
thing
where
you
can
be
like
yeah.
I
want
this
pin
in
tokyo.
You
know:
okay,
here's
our
ipfs
nodes
in
tokyo.
Let's
pin
it
three
times
there
you
know
or
I'm
doing.
A
B
Festival
in
in
columbus,
ohio
I
and
I
made
a
site
or
something
just
for
that
festival.
I
want
to
pin
it
10
times
in
columbus,
that's
it
and
you
know,
but
right
now,
you're
you're
stuck
either
you
randomly
randomly
pin
it
or
you
use
a
web
2
solution.
Where
you
go
all
right
now,
I
need
to
pay
for
a
server.
I
need
to
pay
for
a
cdn.
B
Then
I
need
to
pay
like
say
that
that
temporary
site
for
the
festival
is
immensely
successful
during
that
festival,
but
I
didn't
pay
the
amount
to
make
that
cdn
work
right
and
it
crashes.
You
know
that's
an
issue,
whereas
ipfs
bypasses
those
issues,
you
pin
it
10
times
in
columbus,
every
person.
That's
accessing.
That
is
now
seeding
it
automatically
because
of
the
nature
of
ipfs.
B
C
There's
a
comment:
there's
a
comment
right
now
on
on
youtube.
Saheed
said
we
have
to
get
blocks
and
transactions
on
ipfs,
so
I
think
that's
an
interesting,
storing
it
not
just
in
the
blockchain,
but
also
on
ipfs,
also
bitcoin
payments
modules.
Here,
what
up.
A
A
They
have
all
the
blockchains,
they
snapshot
them
and
put
them
up
on
filecoin.
Accessing
them
is
a
little
weird
they
didn't
like.
They
just
did
it.
They
didn't
like
bother
to
like
go
to
the
blockchain
communities
and
be
like,
what's
the
best
way
to
do
this,
so
that
you
can
access
the
data
and
actually
use
this
information.
They
just
did
it,
you
know,
and
so,
like
I
don't
think
anybody's.
Actually
using
I've,
haven't
heard
of
a
single
case
of
anybody
actually
using
this
data
for
anything
you
know
useful.
They.
C
Out
there,
someone
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
this
existing,
so
that
in
case
there
was
an
attack,
you
had
a
way
to
get
it.
I
guess
that
whether
or
not.
A
Yeah
it
was,
it
was
like
a
proof
of
concept
when
they
launched
the
filecoin
blockchain.
They
were
coming
up
with
like
every
crazy
idea.
They
could
think
of
to
put
like
more
data
on
the
on
the
filecoin,
blockchain
and
and
and
putting
all
the
blocks
of
all
the
block
chains
was
was
one
of
them
and
they
did
it
so
yeah
so
yeah.
A
couple
other
interesting
points
that
I
remembered
as
you
were
talking
aaron
shoemaker,
is
the
the
way
the
pay
to
write
database
works
or
is
that
it?
A
The
data,
is
only
guaranteed
to
be
accessible
for
a
year,
it'll
probably
be
longer
than
next
a
year,
but
but
when
the,
when
the
nodes,
the
peter
database
nodes
are
synchronizing
using
the
consensus
rules,
one
of
the
consensus
rule
is:
is
this
entry
older
than
a
year,
and
if
it
is
it
ignores
it,
and,
and
so
things
naturally
fall
off
the
database
after
a
year,
and
this
means
that
you
know
we
don't
have
the
blockchains
have
of
of
this.
A
We
the
whole
thing's
designed
for
things
to
fall
off
naturally,
and
so
the
pinning
service
leverages
that
same
feature
and
right
now,
if
you
issue
this
command
and
the
file's
under
a
megabyte,
it'll,
it'll,
just
work,
and
so
the
same
penny
that
you
pay
to
write
to
the
database
is
the
same
penny:
to
pin
the
content
and
and
and
because
the
paid
write
database
entries
naturally
fall
off
after
a
year.
A
These
pinned
files
naturally
fall
off
after
a
year,
and
so
it's
just
kind
of
a
neat
thing
and
then
that
that
penny
that
fee
will
be
controlled
by
the
minting
council.
This
will
be
a.
This
will
be
a
thing
that
we
do
when
when
we,
I
think,
every
three
months
we'll
have
it'll,
be
like
you
know,
every
three
months
or
whenever
we
need
it.
A
Kind
of
a
thing
is
when
the
minting
council
will
will
come
together
and
and
one
of
the
things
that
they'll
do
every
three
months
is
update
this
price
of
what?
What
is
how
many
psf
tokens
makes
up
one
penny
in
u.s
dollars,
and
so
that
will
get
updated
by
the
minting
council
every
three
months.
At
least.
A
C
One
thing
we
left
to
say
is:
chris,
is
so
effective
on
vacation
that
we
want
him
to
go
on
vacation
more
out,
not
just.
A
Okay,
so
we
got
some
new
commands
added
to
the
the
psf
bch
wallet
and
we
have
aaron
sunmen
to
thank
for
this.
He
paid
for
these
two
commands
because
he's
using
it
on
his
site
own
rare.art,
so
token
info,
you
can
give
it
the
token
id
of
a
token
and
it'll
go
out
and
get
the
genesis,
data,
the
mutable
data
and
the
immutable
data.
For
that
token-
and
so
that's
just
a
handy,
especially
with
nfts
like
these
commands.
A
These
two
commands
are
much
more
handy
with
for
nfts
and
then
the
token
transaction
history
that
gives
you
the
transaction
history
of
the
token,
and
most
people
are
familiar
with
the
transaction
history
of
a
bitcoin
cash
address
like
if
you
look
in
your
wallet.
You'll
probably
have
your
transaction
history,
but
this
is
not
the
transaction
history
of
a
specific
address.
This
is
the
transaction
history
of
the
token,
so
it
shows
so
for
fungible
tokens,
it's
pretty
chaotic
because
it
shows
every
transaction.
That's
ever
involved
that
token.
A
You
know
which
is
useful
information,
because
it
can
be
data
mined
for
all
sorts
of
things
like
finding
out
what
addresses
hold.
What
quantities
of
tokens
at
a
specific
block
height?
Like
that's
the
raw
information?
You
need
to
answer
that
kind
of
a
question,
but
in
the
case
of
an
nft,
it's
really
helpful
because
you
can
see
where
the
nft
has
moved
around
because
you're,
not
tracking,
multiple
tokens.
C
Easy
man,
these
have
been
great
also
one
of
the
big
things
was
just
like
what
stolen
was
talked
about
before
this
was
once
you
get
an
nft.
You
need
to
validate
that
it's
in
this
right
group,
so
the
the
token
dash
info
one
I
can
easily
get
the
group
id,
so
I
can
collect
them
together
and
make
it
feel
like
it's
a
cohesive
item.
C
If
you
want
to
right,
there's
lots
that
goes
along,
but
but
until
you
have
this
data,
it's
much
more
difficult
to
feel
confident
that
what
you
have
is
a
collection
put
out
by
a
single
individual
so
that
these
have
been
great
tools.
So,
thanks
for
working
on
that
chris
and
getting
those
accomplished.
A
Yeah
cheers
thank
you
yeah,
and
I'm
glad
you
mentioned
that,
because
I
I
forgot
about
that
in
the
case
of
nfts
and
group
tokens
that
token
info.
If
it's
a
group
token
it'll
give
you
a
list
of
all
the
children
nfts
that
were
generated
from
it
and
if
it's
an
nft
it'll
tell
you
the
group
token
that
it
came
from.
A
And
then
the
last
command
is
this
token
mdatx
and
I
saw
stoian
and
aaron
shoemaker
playing
with
this
in
their
roots
up
video.
So
this
is
when
you're,
when
you're
trying
to
attach
mutable
data
changeable
data.
To
a
token,
this
is
a
step
that
you
have
to
do
before
you
create
the
token
is
you
have
to
generate
a
transaction
id,
which
is
the
thing
that
initializes
the
address
that
controls
the
mutable
data,
so
that
you
can?
D
D
C
D
A
Yeah-
and
you
know
I
actually-
that
could
be
changed
without
actually
changing
the
user
experience.
You
could
just
give
it
a
name
instead
of
an
address
and
then
the
code
could
automatically
figure
out
yeah.
Are
they
talking
about
a
wallet
that
exists?
Are
they
talking
about
a
bitcoin
cash
address,
or
you
know
something?
That's
not
valid.
A
D
Because,
usually
when
we
experiment,
you
cannot
show
what
the
other
people
will
do,
but
we
just
generated
the
two
wallets
one
was
for
the
the
the
funding
and
one
was
for
the
controlling
the
mutable
data
and
he
was
thinking.
Okay.
Can
we
just
like
put
the
name
of
this
mda
wallet
there
and
it
can
go
like
this
one
that
makes.
A
A
No
and
that's
this
is
kind
of
why
we
needed
this
pinning
service
yeah.
B
A
Because
the
first
step
in
doing
that
is
to
upload
data
to
file
coin
or
ip
get
it
up
on
ipfs,
and
then
you
and
then
when
you,
when
you
generate
the
bitcoin
cash
transaction,
to
update
that
you're,
pointing
to
that
that
cid
on
ipfs
so
yeah.
This
is
kind
of
you
know
this
is
this
is
what
got
the
gears
turned
in
with
with
the
pinning
services?
It's
like.
A
We
need
a
more
you
know
something
that's
more
native
to
us
to
our
organization,
that's
not
dependent
on
some
third
party
for
pinning
I
mean
right
now,
we've
got
file
coin
and
I
had
I
had
seriously
thought
about
writing
a
command
that
that
would
just
let
you
upload
data
to
web3.storage,
and
I
may
still
do
that.
But
we
really-
and
you
know,
actually
we
already
have
that's
the
thing.
We
already
have
the
command
now,
but
you
don't
even
need
to
run
the
pinning
service
to
pin
content
to
our
pinning
service.
A
B
A
B
And
then
erin
with
your
nft
site,
you
can
just
put
a
reference
like
you
want
to
make
an
nft
go
to
the
pc,
psf
bch
wallet.
This
is
the
easiest
way
to
do
it.
Yeah.
C
Yeah,
which
is
what
I'm
doing
right
now
in
fact,
that
that
part's
already
done,
but
I
haven't
messed
with
the
immutable
side.
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
value
that
has
not
come
about
the
ability
to
take
something
and
make
a
change
to
it.
So
that's
stuff
that
I
I
want
to.
I
have
to
watch
your
roots
up
episode
to
to
learn
more
about
how
you've
used
it
in
the
past,
because
I
think
that's
not
been
explored
nearly
to
what
extent
it
needs
to
be,
at
least
from
my
perspective,.
A
Yeah
yeah
and
that
it's
so
helpful
for
me
to
to
watch
those
to
get
the
feedback
because
I'm
not
involved
that's
the
magic
thing
is
like
I'm
not
there
to
tell
you
guys
what
to
do.
You
have
to
figure
it
out
for
yourself
and
that's
why
it's
so
informative
for
me
to
like
to
watch.
You
guys
struggle
a
little
bit
because
then
it
really
highlights.
Like
oh
yeah,
okay,
I
made
some
bad
assumptions
there
that
people
would
just
know
what
to
do
here.
C
Well,
sometimes
like
what
you
were
saying
before
chris,
maybe
a
couple
episodes
ago,
what
are
you
talking
about?
Yeah
it'd
be
nice.
If
someone
wrote
out
exactly
what
you
need
to
do
to
create
brand
new
things,
but
they
don't
exist,
so
you
have
to
start
from
scratch.
You
have
to
figure
everything
out
so
yeah.
B
A
A
I
just
I've,
told
everybody
to
leave
me
alone
and
I
didn't
really
leave
the
house,
and
I
just
like,
went
nuts
on
this
on
this
app
because
daniel
crea,
I
worked
with
daniel
to
create
wallet.fullstack.cache
and
it's
a
really
nice
web
wall,
but
especially
as
we
introduce
the
mutable
data
it
it's
really
slow
and
clunky,
and
so
daniel's
working
for
somebody
else
now,
and
so
it's
I
I
I
felt
it
was
time
for
me
to
step
up
my
my
react.
A
Skills
and
my
front
end
skills,
and-
and
so
I
thought
the
best
way
to
do.
That
would
be
to
rewrite
the
web
wallet
and
port
it
over
to
to
a
to
a
new
app,
because
there
was
just
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
that.
I
didn't
understand,
and
also
we
started
this
with
gatsby.
We
started
wallet.fullstack.cache
with
gatsby,
which
is
a
great
framework
and
at
the
time
it
was
the
best
option.
A
So
so
I
started
this
like
with
that
whole
workflow
of
like
the
end
target,
is
not
a
web
app,
but
an
android
app
like
we're
putting
more
emphasis
on
the
web
outside,
because
that's
our
universal
thing
that
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
platform
that
the
user
is
on,
but
but
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
care
deeply
about.
Is
these
emerging
markets
like
south
america
and
india
and
pretty
much
they
only
use
android
like
no.
A
Nobody
in
those
countries
have
iphones
they're,
just
prohibitively
expensive
and
so
everybody's
on
android.
So
that's
another
reason
and
I
don't
have
an
iphone,
so
that's
another
reason
why
I'm
focused
on
android
but
anyways,
so
the
web
wall,
it's
very
simple:
it's
got
this
menu,
it's
just
three
screens.
You
know
tokens
bch
and
wallet.
A
So
it
comes
up
and
it
shows
the
the
tokens.
You
can
click
the
refresh
button
to
refresh
your
balance.
You
can
see
here
all
these
tokens
have
icons.
So
these
first
two
are
using
our
specification
for
mutable
data,
and
then
the
tether
is
the
cosine
is
github
repository
for
token.
Icons
is
sort
of
the
conventional
way
of
uploading
token
icon,
so
it
already
works
with
both
of
those.
So
if
you'd,
like
a
spice
token,
it's
it's
icon
is
going
to
automatically
show
up
here.
A
A
The
main
difference
is
that
this
is
a
lot
faster
and
it
makes
way
fewer
api
calls
and-
and
you
can
run
it
as
a
native
app
if
you
have
an
android,
so
all
the
important
information
you
can
delete
your
wallet.
You
can
import
a
12-word
mnemonic
here
to
replace
the
existing
wallet
and
you
don't
it
just
automatically
creates
a
wallet
when
you,
when
you
open
it.
A
A
It's
very
much
similar
to
the
tokens
where
you
can
hit
refresh
to
refresh
your
balances
listed
in
the
us
dollar,
equivalent
bitcoin
cash
and
then
satoshi's
yeah,
and
then
just
a
simple,
simple,
send
same
thing
here,
where
you
can
use
this
toggle
to
switch
back
and
forth
between
your
bitcoin
cache
and
slp
address.
So
you
can
click
the
qr
code
to
copy
the
address
to
the
clipboard,
and
this
is
built
using
our
web3
tech.
That's
a
big
difference
is
that
fullstack.cache
uses
the
cloud
infrastructure
at
fullstack.cache,
but
this
uses
our
our
ipfs
web3
infrastructure.
A
So
if
this
thing
comes
up
and
if
it
has
a
network
issue,
it'll
tell
you
right
off
the
get-go
like
there's
a
problem
and
then
it'll
bring
you
to
this
screen
and
it'll
say:
select
an
alternative
server
and
so
as
as
our
network
grows,
as
we
incentivize
people
like
with
the
pinning
service,
and
we
get
more
back-end
services
up
there
on
the
network,
with
more
circuit
relays
connecting
everything,
this
list
will
grow,
and-
and
so
that's
what
I
love
about
this-
is
that
there's
there's
no
fullstack.cache,
there's
no
whatever.com
like
like
anybody,
can
provide
this
back-end
service,
and
this
wallet
will
just
work
and
now
that
we
have
this
foundation
like
this
is.
A
This
is
going
to
be
from
here
I'll
fork,
this
to
create
the
user
interface
for
the
avalanche,
decks
and
the
ecash
decks
and
yeah,
and
and
just
in
a
lot
of
apps
like
the
pinning
service
being
able
to
just
upload
a
file
and
pin
it
to
ipfs
that'll,
be
another
screen
I'll
fork.
This
and
add
another
view
you
know,
so
any
any
all
these
things
that
we
can
do
in
the
command
line
wall
of
it.
D
A
This
this
gist
on
github
right
here,
so
I
can
update
this.
So
if
anybody
sets
up
a
server,
they
can
just
send
me
this
information
and
I
can
update
this
and
it'll
magically
appear
on
the
list
on
everybody's
phone
and
and
app.
They
don't
need
to
update
anything
and
then-
and
then
you
know,
of
course,
this
is
depending
on
github.
So
that's
a
potential
issue
down
the
road,
but
there's
ways
to
there's
ways
to
to
get
around
that
too.
We
can
there's
going
to
be
multiple
ways.
A
The
list
will
be
populated,
like
these
will
probably
be
hard-coded
and
then
it'll
go
out
and
get
the
list
from
github
and
and
whether
that
succeeds
or
fails.
It'll
probably
have
a
third
method,
eventually
where
it
goes
out
and
gets
like
mutable
data.
From
a
token,
that's
updated
by
the
minting
council,
although
at
that
point
you're
kind
of
a
chicken
and
egg
problem
right,
you
gotta
find
a
server
to
get
the
data
from
the
blockchain
so
that
you
can
find
a
server
yeah.
So.
A
Or
just
have
a
user
interface
here,
where
you
can
manually
add
your
own
wallet.fullstack.cache.
Has
that
where
you
can
manually
tell
it
what
server
to
connect
to?
So
I'm
definitely
going
to
add
that
ui
here,
but
it
was
a
lot
of
work
just
getting
getting
it
to
where
it
is
now
just
get
like,
because
there's
I'll
show
you
some
of
the
animation
here.
A
A
There
we
go,
you
know,
so
it's
got
this
modal
that
comes
up
in
a
dialogue,
tells
you
what's
happening
and
then
a
little
spinner
thing
and
then
a
link
to
a
block
explorer
when
it's
all
done
and
the
same
thing
on
the
and
then
and
then
it
updates
your
wallet
balance
when
you
close
that
modal,
so
just
getting
the
animations
and
the
workflow
is
so
much
work.
But
now
this
is
here,
you
know,
adding
new
stuff
is
pretty
easy,
because
you
can
just
look
and
see
how
the
old
stuff
is
built.
D
Also,
it
will
be
nice
if
you
can
make
this
like
more,
so
the
people
can
use
just
one
component
from
this
like
showing
balance
this
to
be
like
a
balanced
component.
So
if
you
have,
for
example,
donation
site,
you
just
can
put
there
your
balance
component
and
it
will
show
the
balance
you
don't
need
sent
in
there,
but
you
need
receive
and
show
balance.
So,
if
you
just
can
make
it
more
component
like
it
will
be
very
easy
for
useful
for
javascript
developers
to
get
this
react
component
and
use
it
that
way.
Yeah.
A
The
whole
the
whole
like
the
wallet
is,
the
view
is,
is
in
this
directory
everything
that
makes
ad
ups
in
here
and
everything's
broken
down
like
the
copy
on
click
when
you,
when
you
click,
click
the
little
copy
icon.
That's
the
component,
the
delete
button
to
clear
the
wallet.
That's
it's
just
a
button,
but
it
does
a
lot
of
stuff
behind
the
scenes,
and
so
that's
its
own
component
and
so
yeah.
A
lot
of
this
is
written.
A
A
lot
of
this
code
was
written
with
the
intent
of
of
breaking
it
up
and
making
it.
You
know
very
react
component.
You
know,
reuse
reusability,
so
like
every.
Let
me
see
it's
maybe.
D
You
can
make
this
component
a
different
repository
and
you
can
export
it
like
npm,
for
example.
So
the
peoples
in
their
projects
will
just
do
import,
bch
components
and
they
can
start
using
them.
D
A
Well,
my
intent
really
was
for
me
and
for
other
people
to
rather
than
taking
components
from
this
and
putting
some
new
app
would
be
building
forking,
this
and
and
then
building
on
top
of
this
basic
functionality,
but
but
yeah
like
so
like
this
balance,
this
little
card
that
displays
the
balance
like
that's
its
own
component,
so
that'll
get
reused
when
I
fork
this
and
start
doing,
the
avalanche
side
of
things
like
I'm
still
gonna
need
to
display
a
bounce,
so
visually
nothing's,
gonna
change,
just
just
like
the
units
are
going
to
change
and
so
I'll
be
able
to
reuse.
A
A
You
know,
because
I
had
daniel
and
so
now
I'm
just
sort
of
owning
that
that
fine
little
final
little
piece
and
I'm
excited
to
to
start
taking
all
this
all
these
back
end
features
the
painter
database
and
the
dexter
and
start
making
like
really
good
easy,
simple
user
interfaces
for
them
all
right.
A
The
last
thing
I
want
to
cover
is
these:
the
the
multi-sig
test,
repository
that
aaron
and
and
stoyan
covered
in
their
their
roots
up
video,
but
these
are
just
this
was
mostly
for
me
and
that's
why
they're
in
my
own
personal
repository
and
I
sort
of
numbered
them
just
they're,
just
code
examples
showing
different
ways
of
creating
multi-sig
wallets
and
the
main
ones
are
these
last
two,
and
I'm
really
glad
that
you
guys
picked
up
on
this
in
your
roots.
Up
video
is
the
round
robin
signing.
A
A
That's
like
that's
a
series,
whereas
a
parallel
is
I
generate
a
transaction.
I
send
it
to
everybody,
everybody
adds
just
their
signature
and
sends
it
back
to
me
and
then
I
combine
all
the
signatures
into
the
final
transaction
and
broadcast
it.
So
I
would
call
that,
like
a
parallel
signing
or
what's
the
term,
I
use
for
the
minting
council,
an
aggregator,
the
person
aggregates,
all
the
all
the
signatures,
and
that's
probably
how
it'll
be
done
for
the
minting
council,
where
we'll
we'll
we'll
we
can.
D
Well,
we'll
be
there
like
what
will
be
like
middleware,
like
off-chain
way,
to
send
this
partially
signed
transaction
like
when
you
sign
you,
your
transaction,
you
like
committed
to
to
like
pay
to
write
database
or
from
where
the
next
person
would
get
the
transaction.
A
Yeah
yeah,
so
this
will
use
the
the
messaging
that's
built
into
the
psf
bch
wallet,
so
you
can
already
send
an
end-to-end
encrypted
message
to
any
bitcoin
cash
address.
Using
the
like,
the
message
send
and
the
message
check
will
check
for
new
messages
and
the
message
read:
will
de-encrypt
and
and
display
the
message.
So
we've
already
got
this
infrastructure
and
it
that
piggyback's
on
top
of
the
pay
to
write
database.
A
So
it's
writing
encrypted
data
to
the
pay
to
write
database.
So
this
is
how
the
transaction
will
go
out
and
the
signed
transactions
will
come
back
in
and
and
all
the
communication
and
the
minting
council
will
take
place
using
using
using
because
we
don't
the
the
idea
behind
the
mementine
council
is
that
it's
it's
anonymous
first
or
anonymous
friendly.
So
everybody
will
be
identified
by
their
bitcoin
cash
address,
not
not
their
name
and
well
actually
they'll
be
identified
by
the
nft
that
they
hold.
So
they
can
change
addresses
and
we
can
still.
A
You
know
the
nft
acts
as
a
homing
beacon,
and
so
whoever
whatever
address,
is
holding
the
nft.
That's
what
will
receive
the
encrypted
message
and
have
the
ability
ability
to
sign
you
know,
there's
some
caveats
there,
because
the
signature
is
based
on
the
address,
not
the
token.
So
so,
if
you,
if
you
move
your
nft,
then
you
still
need
to
retain
the
key
to
that
address
so
that
you
can
sign
it
and
up
and
then
and
then
on
the
next
multisig
transaction.
A
A
So
yeah,
so
that
was
just
me
playing
around
while
I
was
on
vacation.
So
the
next
step
is
to
take
these
to
take
these
examples
and
integrate
them
into
the
the
psf
multi-sigmentine
app,
which
already
exists
but
uses
this
sort
of
weird
way
of
doing
multisig,
where
it
passes
around
private
keys
instead
of
signatures,
and
so
that
needs
to
be
updated
to
use
this
new.
This
new
code
that
uses
signatures
instead
of
private
keys.
A
So
that's
the
agenda
guys,
I'm
happy
to
open
it
up
to
anything.
You
guys
want
to
talk
about.
C
I'm
going
to
mention
one
thing
that
during
that
bch
crypto
phoenix,
cryptos
bch
twitter
space.
They
talked
about
one
of
the
values
that
made
bitcoin
exist
and
become
something
was,
was
ross's,
silk
road
and
making
a
space
for
people
to
buy
things.
So
you
know
I
know
it
hasn't
come
up
yet
in
this
meeting.
But
this
idea
of
having
something
that's
that's
protected,
that's
anonymous!
That's
central
and
the
non-centralized
stuff
is
something
you're
already
working
on,
and
so
I
I
don't
know.
C
A
A
Hour
plus
there
were
like
audio
technical
audio
issues
going
on,
so
that's
the
other
reason
why
they
held
me
back
but
yeah
I
could
have
I
I
know
I
was
like.
I
was
this
close
to
like
going
off
on
that,
but
but
since
you
brought
that
up,
I
have
started
drafting
a
new
specification
called
the
simple
store
protocol.
A
That's
that's
a
name
play
off
of
the
simple
ledger
protocol
because
it
uses
a
lot
of
the
same
principles
where
so
this
none
of
this
is
set
in
stone.
This
was
really
just
an
effort
for
me
to
get
on
paper
some
of
these
ideas
that
have
been
rattling
through
my
head,
but
basically-
and
we-
and
we
talked
about
this
in
previous
meetings,
so
this
won't
be
new
to
either
of
you
guys,
but
so
basically,
a
store
is
an
nft
and
there's
a
schema.
A
So
there's
there's
json
ld
or
json
linked
data
and
then
there's
a
site
called
schema.org.
This
goes
back
to
the
original
roots
of
web3
tim
berners-lee,
who
created
the
web.
He
back
in
you
know
the
early
2000s
envisioned
the
semantic
web,
which
is
what
became
called
web
3
before
ethereum
devs
took
over
that
name,
and
so
the
original
web
3
had
nothing
to
do
with
blockchain.
It
had
everything
to
do
with
linked
data
and
these
these
data
structures,
so
that
computers
can
figure
out
on
the
fly.
You
know
what
like.
A
Oh
this
data
is
a
product.
This
data
is
a
store
this
pro.
This
data
is
a
review
to
get
context
about
the
data,
and
so
this
this
specification
leverages
all
that
work.
A
That's
totally
fine,
but
as
long
as
everybody
sort
of
uses
the
same
syntax
for
a
price,
then
I
don't
like.
Then
then
your
app
can
interact
with
my
app,
and
so
it's
really
leveraging
those
link
data
specifications.
But
the
idea
is
the
store.
Is,
is
a
group
token?
Sorry,
I
said
nft
earlier.
The
store
is
a
group
token.
So
stores
can
generate
nft,
so
those
could
be
receipts.
A
They
could
be
digital
products
that
are
sold
in
the
store,
but
there's
no
requirement
it's
just
that
the
store
is
using
this
mutable
data,
it's
what
it
is
on.
The
blockchain
is
a
group
token,
and
that
means
it
can
leverage
mutable
data
and
immutable
data
and
it
can
generate
nfts,
but
those
nfts
are
not
specified
in
here.
You
can
do
whatever
you
want
with
those
nfts
and
and
then
the
products
are
just
data
in
in
the
mutable
data
of
the
store,
token
and
they're
described
using
this
product
schema
and
then
claims.
A
This
is
the
new
thing
claims
are
not
a
token
claims
are
they're
they're
about
something
they're
they're,
either
they're,
typically
about
a
store
or
a
product
or
a
claim
can
be
about
another
claim,
and
so
this
is
how
you
leave
reviews,
and
this
is
how
store
owners
can
leave,
reviews
about
reviews
and
these.
These
aren't
because
they're,
not
tokens
they're,
just
transactions,
they
become
permanent
and
immutable,
and
you
get
these.
You
know
if
you
really
want
to
get
into
the
weeds
like
philosophically
there's
this
concept
of
non-remediation
or
something
like.
A
Basically,
you
know
if
you
sign
something
like
basically,
it's
really
hard
to
say:
somebody
else
did
it,
and
so
that's
that's
good
stuff,
but
that's
that's,
basically
the
gist
of
it.
Everything
else
is
like
so
here's.
A
very
simple
example
of
what
json
linked
to
data
looks
like
like
for
a
store
like
this.
This
would
be
like
the
minimum,
the
minimum
you
know,
amount
of
data
to
comply
with
the
specifications
yep.
This
is
a
store,
and
it's
using
this.
A
This
schema
and
that's
about
as
far
as
I've
gotten
but
yeah
the
claim
is
part
of
the
op
return.
I
submitted
a
pull
request
to
the
locat
id
repository.
A
Both
I
haven't
done
ecash
yet
because
I
just
found
out
that
it
exists
on
ecash,
but
so
what
locat
id
is
slp
tokens
are
based
on
the
location.
Loca
id
is
a
it's
a
four
byte
prefix
that
you
add
at
the
beginning
of
an
op
return
and
what
it
in
basically
that
lets
the
app
go
to
this
csv
file,
which
is
the
locad
and
and
look
up
like
okay,
because
the
opportunity
used
this
prefix.
I
now
have
context,
and
I
know
that
this
is
like
memo.
A
A
That's
in
the
claim
is
is
a
json
file
on
ipfs,
and
so
that's
how
say
a
user
would
leave
a
review
for
a
product
sold
by
a
store
and
and
then
and
then
the
store
owner
could
generate
the
follow
same
protocol
to
generate
a
claim
and
instead
of
referencing
their
store,
they
would
reference
the
transaction
id
of
the
user's
claim
and,
and
so
the
format
would
look
almost
exactly
the
same.
But
the
context
is
different,
but
that's
the
basic
idea.
A
It's
it's
intended
to
be
a
very
simple,
and
you
know
I
think,
if
it's
it'll
be
really
powerful
right.
We've
got
the
basic
idea
of
identity
stores,
products,
reviews.
C
A
Yeah
I
mean
you
know
what
I
want
to
do.
Is
I
regularly
stock
extra
frozen
pizza
and
ice
cream
because
I'm
on
a
remote
island
and
those
things
were
hard
to
get?
I
would
love
to
just
be
like.
I
have
three
frozen
pizzas
for
sale,
you
know,
and
or
and
my
friend
down
the
road
and
makes
art
I'd
love
for
her
to
like
list.
You
know:
here's
some
of
the
art
I
had
for
sale
and
my
buddy
up
the
road
does
dirt
work.
A
He's
got
an
excavation
company,
I'd
love
for
him
to
be,
like
you
know,
150
an
hour
and
and
just
to
be
able
to
look
on
my
phone
on
that
app
with
a
with
a
map
just
like
craigslist
and
be
able
to
see
all
the
things
that
are
like
geographically
close
to
me
and
to
be
able
to
send
them
an
encrypted
message
and
communicate.
A
Maybe
some
escrow.
If
I
want
to
hire
the
excavator
guy,
I
can
drop,
you
know
150
bucks
into
escrow.
Just
so,
he
knows
I'm
serious
and
you
know
we
can
do
all
this
with
that
app
that
I
just
showed
so
that
that's
that's
where
I
want
to
take
this.
B
A
Yeah,
well,
you
know
the
thing
is:
we've
got
to
make
the
government
not
matter
hey,
that's
the
only
way
we
can
we
can
take
our
control
back
is
is
just
to
make
them
irrelevant
and
and
so
being
able
to
trade
with
your
neighbors
is
a
great
way
to
make
government
irrelevant.
That's.
C
Without
the
coincidence
of
wants
right,
the
coincidence
of
one
problem
has
always
been
the
issue.
How
do
you
actually
find?
Who
has
what
that
you
want
to
trade
with
right?
That's
always
been
extremely
difficult.
Now
you
got
craigslist,
but
once
that
goes
away,
then
you've
got
to
do
something
like
this,
so
I'm
I'm
rereading
that
sovereign
individual.
If
not,
someone
hasn't
read
that
book.
That
is
an
amazing
book
that
outlines
written
25
years
ago
as
to
where
we
are
right
now.
A
Yeah
I'm
trying
to
read
through
it
right
now
for
the
first
time
and
it's
just
so
grandiose.
The
claims
are,
I
mean
back
then
in
the
90s
early
90s
when
it
was
written.
It
was
such
a
grandiose
claim.
Absolutely
and
and
not
everything
came
true,
so
you
kind
of
have
to
cherry-pick
with
the
you
know
the
history,
but
but
yeah
I
mean
it
was
it
was.
A
It
was
definitely
it's
more
inspirational
than
factual,
and
so
it's
just
I
I'm
reading
it
for
the
first
time,
and
I
I
definitely
like
I
was
expecting
more
out
of
it,
but
but
it
was
prescient
I
mean
for
at
the
time
if
you
read
that
thing
and
it
excited
you
in
the
90s
like
a
lot
of
the
stuff
you
talked
about
is
come
is
in
the
process
of
coming
true
right.
B
I'll
to
check
that
out
and
another
one
to
read
is
the
agora's
primer
or
primer
by
sir
edwin
cockton,
the
third.
What.
D
C
Yeah
and
it's
available
on,
you
know
lots
of
other
platforms
I,
but
I
think
it's
well
worth
but,
like
you
said
chris,
it
was
written
in
the
90s
and
at
that
point
in
time
all
of
this
hadn't
been
built
yet
so
it
was
very
grandiose
and
now
a
lot
of
it
has
come
true,
but
it
also
just
puts
together
this
idea
that
big
changes
like
this
happen
over
thousands
of
years.
We
live
in
only
a
hundred
year
span
of
it.
A
B
I
look
at.
I
always
tell
people
that
if
you
look
at
the
enlightenment
period,
people
said
how
could
we
possibly
ever
live
without
kings,
and
that
was
an
evolution
in
mindset
and
governance
to
what
we
have
today
and
we're
now
at
a
point
where
people
are
like:
how
could
we
possibly
ever
live
with
what
we
have
today
without
what
we
have
today
and
we're
in
a
similar
mindset,
shift
and
evolution,
and
that
is
a
natural
progress
and
people.
B
A
B
It's
really
short
and
it
talks
about
going
from.
He
actually
works
backwards
from
a
state
society
to
a
status
society.
C
B
But
he
talks
about
all
the
methods
in
between
and
how
things
would
naturally
break
down
and
how
private
security
would
eventually
be
hired,
and
you
know,
because
there's
more
economic
prosperity
in
the
agaris
community
people
would
eventually
start
moving
over
there.
You
know
so
interesting.
A
Yeah,
I'm
going
to
read
that
you
know
real
quick,
jerry
in
the
chat
says:
does
anyone
know
what
the
smart
bch
guys
are
doing
in
terms
of
a
new
bridge?
I
I
don't
know
I'm
mostly
ignorant.
That's
my
short
answer.
A
What
I
do
know
is
that
the
it's
really
I
it's
like
a
train
wreck,
so
it's
hard
to
look
away
from
and
mildly
interesting,
but
ultimately
I
just
want
to
you
know,
get
to
where
I'm
at
and
and
and
not
pay
attention
to
the
train
wreck,
but
from
what
I've
seen
so
there's
still
like
the
the
actual
bridge
is
no
more
the
there's
big
chunks
of
bitcoin
and
smart
bch
that
are
sort
of
locked
up
and
nobody
knows
when
or
how
they're
going
to
get
released.
A
But
what
I've?
What
I
have
noticed,
that's
really
interesting
is
there's
a
there's,
a
small
group.
There
is
a
another
centralized
bridge
from
binance
to
smart
bch
and
all
the
people,
mostly
non-americans,
like
a
lot
of
asian
people
are
like
are
like
what
are
you
guys
freaking
out
about?
A
We've
got
the
binance
bridge,
everything's,
fine
and
because
you
know
finance,
why
not
like-
and
I
just
find
it
hilarious-
that
it's
it's
like
so
there's
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
direction
it's
going
to
go,
but
if
it
does
like
it's
just
paper
into
like
centralized
control,
where
there's
going
to
be
like,
maybe
two
people
validating
the
whole
blockchain
and
then
you
can
bring
your
tokens
in
from
finance.
C
A
Yeah
I
have,
I
have
seen
other
groups
talking
that
I
think
I
can't
remember
who
was
working
on
the
shawgate
thing,
but
there
has
been
progress.
I
don't
know
if
it
has
momentum
or
if
anything
will
actually
be.
You
know
come
from
it
and
I'm
yeah,
I'm
hopeful
like
I
don't
want
to.
I
don't
want
to
completely
on
their
parade.
A
You
know
it's
good
stuff,
it's
just
really
sketchy.
You
went
from
pretty
sketchy
to
really
sketchy.
C
A
Yeah
also,
since
we're
talking
about
evm
chains,
I've
been
following
the
avalanche
subnets
I
so
it's
interesting.
I
I've
I've
gotten
together
with
a
few
other
people
who
wanted
to
invest
in
crypto
and
we
managed
to
when
the
price
crashed,
we
managed
to
collectively
put
together,
2
000
avalanche
so
that
we
can
set
up
our
own
validator.
A
I
don't
know
if
I
buy
into
the
whole
narrative
that
that
subnets
are
going
to
be
like
the
next
big
thing.
If
they
are,
I'm
positioned
to
profit
from
it.
So
that's
good.
I'm
going
to
keep
building
on
bitcoin
cash,
because
that's
just
my
personal
favorite,
but
it
is
an
interesting
idea
and
they
just
launched
an
evm
subnet.
A
This
this
is
for
video
games.
This
is
the
thing
that
video
games
need.
They
need
high
bandwidth
blockchains,
and
so
that's
that's,
apparently
what
they're
you
know.
So
I
don't
know
if
I
buy
into
all
of
it,
but
that's
the
narrative
and.
B
There's
definitely
some
there
there.
I
could
see
the
use
case
for
video
games,
although
I
still
think
that
what
you
psf
is
building
on
bch
will
actually
be
better
for
it,
because
when
you
have
subnets,
things
are
locked
up
and
then
gamers,
who
are
all
already
do
not
like
micro
transactions
in
the
siloed
systems,
which
is
where
it
exists.
B
D
C
B
Yeah
I
hear
the
argument
for
subnets
my
and
I
can
hear
see
how
the
speed
happens.
B
My
question
is:
how
is
it
much
different
than
you
know
doing
stuff
on
web
2.,
especially
if
you
know
you're
still
going
to
be
using
utilizing
amazon
with
a
lot
of
them
are
or
you're
still
going
to
be
utilizing
azure
cloud,
basically
cloud
computing
cloud
storage,
a
lot
of
these
companies.
They
utilize
that
anyways.
You
know.
D
D
Yeah
you're
getting
hardware
yeah,
you
can
buy
a
small
device,
put
it
connected
to
the
internet
and
you're
part
of
the
network,
or
I
think
there
was
also
like
some,
like
virtual
machine
or
whatever,
but
yeah.
Everybody
is
now
working
for
the
decentralized
like
hardware
like
infrastructure,
how
to
see
nobody,
don't
press
in
amazon,
anymore.
D
B
There's
what
there's
four
server
centers
in
the
united
states,
one
in
canada
there's,
I
think
one
in
mexico
there's
one
for
all
of
africa,
one
for
all
of
africa!
There's
one
in
india
one!
I
think
singapore
one
in
europe,
and
so
you
are
putting
your
reliance
in
something
that
like
if
one
of
those
server
centers
goes
down,
everything
is
gone
for
that
that
period
and
we've
seen
this
happen.
Where
amazon
east
went
down
and
took
down
like
25
of
the
internet
in
america,
because
they
were
all
using
amazon
ease,
you.
A
B
A
The
the
to
run
the
infrastructure,
particularly
for
these
evm
chains,
like
I,
have
avalanches
the
lightest
weight
evm
chain.
I
have
personal
knowledge
of
like
and
now
before
avalanche.
I
just
thought
like
there's
no
way
you
can
run
an
evm
node
on
anything
less
than
a
cloud
server
like
a
home
desktop
server
is
not
adequate
and
that's
that's
a
huge
issue
for
me.
A
Now
you
have
to
have
a
really
good
internet
connection
and
you
have
to
really
fast
hard
drive
and-
and
so
it
is-
I
that's
that's
even
sort
of
pulling
away
from
that
and
that's
what
I
love
about
the
bitcoin
is,
you
know
we
can?
A
We
can
fork
that
code
base
anytime,
we
need
more
bandwidth,
just
create
a
side
chain,
just
fork
it
and
build
a
bridge,
and
you
know
that's
what
we'll
do
if,
if,
if
microtransactions
on
bitcoin
cash
were
ever
threatened,
we'll
just
build
our
own
side
chain
and
that
way
we
can
guarantee.
B
Yeah,
you
know
I'll
I'll,
see
we'll
see
what
happens
with
this,
because
everybody's
saying
oh
layer,
two
is
gonna,
be
it
layer,
two
is
gonna,
be
it,
but
it's
like
you're
going
backwards
almost
because
you're,
like
okay,
you're
gonna,
go
to
layer
two
and
then
you're
gonna
trust
that
now
this
layer
is
going
to
accurately
do
a
roll
up,
whether
it's
zk
rollups
or
the
what
the
other
one
and
post
that
to
the
chain
the
main
chain
accurately,
I'm
not
saying
they're
bad,
I'm
not
saying,
there's
gonna
be
there's
will
be
great
companies
that
do
this,
don't
get.
A
Me
wrong
yeah
to
continue
that
thought.
I
I
really
like
what
emin
gunsir
he's
been
saying.
Avalanche
is
bitcoin's
layer,
two,
they
have
the
core
wallet
and
you
can
take
your
btc
bitcoin
and
you
can
load
it
in
the
core
wallet
and
bring
it
over
the
bridge
to
avalanche
and
then
use
that
bitcoin
on
avalanche
as
collateral
for
say
a
loan
or
or
whatever.
But
now
all
of
a
sudden,
your
your
finality
is
down
to.
A
Second,
your
transaction
fees
are
like
a
few,
a
few
cents
and
but
you're
still
using
the
original
bitcoin,
and
so
like.
I
really
like
this
idea
that,
like
other
blockchains,
are
the
layer
two
to
other
blockchains,
like
you
know,
that's
not
how
they
were
envisioned
and
that
you
know
someone
wants
to
kill
me
for
butchering
the
terminology,
but
the
rea,
but
that's
the
reality.
A
D
I,
like
the
the
nearby's
approach,
their
evm,
its
name
aurora,
but
the
native
token
is
it
so
when
you
breach
it
like
if
you're
an
avalanche,
it
will
be
rapid
bts,
but
you
need
to
pay
transaction
in
avex,
but
these
guys
they
breach
the
heat
and
you
pay
everything
in
it.
So
it's
you
does
not
lose
your
heat.
You
just
have
to
see
it's
there
too,
for
the
ethereum
blockchain.
So
if
you
want
it
will
be
always
the
same
price
on
both.
D
So
if
you're
like
converted
something
and
okay
avax
is
down,
this
is
down
no,
it's
same
eat
it
and
you
pay
everything
in
it
fees,
but
the
fees
are
like
it's
like
less
than
a
cent
for
a
transaction,
and
it's
like
one
second
or
two
second
validation.
So
it's
like
better
eat
than
eat.
Yeah.
A
Yeah,
you
know,
and
this
is
why
I
buy
btc
and
e
because
well
not
ethan's.
I
have
a
different
reason
for
buying
eve,
but
you
know
this
net.
The
the
btc
community
has
really
focused
on
this
digital
gold
narrative.
This
pristine
collateral,
narrative,
it's
just
gold
2.0
and
if
that's
all
it
ever
is-
and
I
know
a
lot
of
people
are
hoping
that
that's
all
it
ever
will
be.
A
You
know
that
because,
because
there's
all
these
ways
to
bring
that
btc
over
to
these
other
chains
and
actually
use
it
actually
spend
it,
you
know
that
make
that
that
is
the
layer
too,
like
I
don't
think
the
lightning's
ever
gonna
take
off
on
a
mass
level
like
it's
just
too
complex
but
being
able
to
bridge
your
bitcoin
onto
avalanche
and
then
and
then
actually
use
it
fast
and
inexpensively.
Like
there's
they're
there
I
mean
that's
real
utility.
It's
available
today.
D
Yeah
yeah
I
used
I
used
not
maybe
I
used
it
like
collateral
on
avex
because
they
they
had
like
a
great
landing
service.
So
you
just
put
there:
you
eat
you,
get
some
usd
or
something
you
can
create,
avox
or
whatever
you
want
and
yeah
yeah.
When
you're
finished
you
return,
the
loan
get
your
btc
back.
A
Yeah,
that's
that's
going
to
be
the
next
big
bull
run
is,
is
more
people
figuring
out
that,
like
I
never
have
to
sell
my
eth
or
my
bitcoin
like?
Why
would
you
sell
it?
That's
that's
stupid
if
you
need
money,
just
post
it
as
collateral
and
get
the
money-
and
you
know
like
never,
never
sell
it,
and
as
long
as
enough
people
believe
that
narrative,
the
price
will
always
go
up,
because
there
will
always
be
less
in
circulation.
A
Yeah,
I
love
I
love
thor
chain.
I
wish
the
transaction
fees
were
a
little
lower
and
you
know
so
like
so.
My
problem
is
like
die
is
the
stable
coin.
I
trust
the
most,
but
the
transaction
fees
are
outrageous
on
ethereum,
and
so
when
I
have
you
know,
if
I
get
paid
in
bitcoin
cash,
I
need
a
cost
effective
way
to
convert
that
some
of
that
into
dye
and
and
it's
getting
better
thor
chain
is,
is
great
because
I
can
convert
my.
A
I
don't
think
avalanche
is
on
thor
chain.
If
it
was,
I
could
go
bitcoin
cash
to
avalanche
and
then
avalanche
to
to
right
a
die
equivalent
and
that
would
all
be
fast
and
pretty
low
low
cost.
So
yeah,
I'm
trying
to
you
know
die
is
like
the
long-term,
stable
coin
savings
account.
I
need
a
short-term
spending.
Stablecoin
account
like
you
know.
A
Tether
could
potentially
be
that
on
the
slp
token,
on
bitcoin
cash,
but
yeah
finding
something
that's
yeah,
something
that's
you
got
to
have
your
fast,
cheap
transactional,
you
know
stable
coin
and
then
and
then
you
have
your
your
stable
coin.
That's
like
long
term
stable,
doesn't
necessarily
need
to
have
trans
low
risk
that
doesn't
have
good
transaction
fees
right.
So
yeah.