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A
Okay,
it
says
that
we're
live
for
those
watching,
recording,
hang
out
for
a
minute.
We
got
to
do
a
little
housekeeping
and
let
YouTube
catch
up.
A
Oh,
it's
balmy
man
feels
good
I'm,
I'm,
Hot,
Blooded
I,
always
run
hot
all
right,
putting
a
link
in
the
telegram
Channel
welcome
everybody
to
the
permissionless
software
Foundation
technical
steering
committee
today
is
September
14th,
it's
a
Wednesday.
My
name
is
Chris
troutner
I'm
joined
with
other
members
of
the
permissionless
software
Foundation
I
maintain
full
stack.cash
infrastructure
as
service
and
let's
go
around
and
do
a
quick
round
of
introductions.
Aaron
Sunman.
Why
don't
you
start
us
off.
B
Hey
Aaron
Sunman
here
proud
member
of
the
psf
permissionless
shelter,
Foundation,
just
care
so
much
about
permissionless,
Innovation
and
I
think
the
the
tools
that
have
been
generated
by
the
psf
to
make
it
easy
simple
and
make
it
permissionless
to
do
what
you
want
to
do
with
a
blockchain.
It's
inexpensive
or
actually
multiple
blockchains
that
are
very
inexpensive
and
yet
can
be
used
as
a
public
good
as
a
trust
machine
for
all
so
I'm
glad
to
be
here.
A
And
you
recently
built
a
really
cool
disposable,
Bitcoin
Cash
Web
wallet.
Yes,
these.
B
A
Yeah
we're
also
joined
by
Aaron
Shoemaker,
but
his
video
feeds
not
working
and
his
audio
feeds
a
little
choppy,
but
he
can
jump
in
here
anytime.
We
always
appreciate
his
input.
A
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
and
we'll
get
to
the
agenda.
So
as
always,
our
agenda
is
on
GitHub
under
the
permissionless
software
Foundation
group,
in
a
repository
called
TSC
for
technical
steering
committee
meeting
and
we
file
our
agendas
as
issues,
and
so
this
is
the
one
for
today.
A
Our
agenda
is:
oh,
the
cash
stack,
the
pay
to
write
database
and
and
the
BC
and
the
dexes
which
exist
on
bitcoin
cash,
Avalanche,
xchain
and
ecash,
so
that
those
are
the
scope
of
the
technical
meeting.
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
demo
heavy
meeting.
Today,
we've
got
a
lot
of
cool
things.
To
show
off,
I
really
want
to
encourage
the
members
of
the
psf
to
try
out
the
software
and
solicit
feedback
over
the
next
couple
weeks.
A
So,
let's
dive
into
the
decks,
that's
where
most
of
the
demos
are
going
to
be
so
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
on
this.
First
of
all,
I
created
this
nft
creator
and
that
can
be
found
at
nft-creator.fullstack.cash.
There's
also
a
link
here
in
the
agenda
and
what
this
does
is
it
lets
people
quickly
and
easily
make
nfts
from
images.
A
So
there's
a
lot
of
people
I've
seen
a
lot
of
images
fly
around
Twitter
because
of
the
release
of
the
stable
diffusion
algorithm
that
lets
you
make
AI
generated
art
from
text
prompts,
and
it's
very
popular
and
so
I'm
hoping
to
capture
that
and
make
it
easy
for
people
to
take
their
AI
generated
art,
convert
it
into
an
nft
and
then
put
that
nft
up
for
sale
on
the
deck.
So
that's
that's
the
high
level
like
goal
that
I'm
trying
to
achieve
now.
A
This
software
is
pretty
clunky,
it's
more
for
developers
and
end
users,
but
it
works
and
that's
the
point.
And
so
if
you
go
here,
there's
a
question
mark
in
the
upper
right
hand,
corner
that'll.
Take
you
to
a
quick
YouTube
tutorial
on
how
to
use
this.
A
But
it's
very
simple:
you
give
your
token
the
name,
a
ticker
and
you
drop
in
a
URL
to
the
image,
and
then
you
can
hit
create
token
and
as
long
as
you
have
some
Bitcoin
cash
in
this
wallet,
this
is
a
fork
of
the
web
wallet,
so
it
works
the
same
and
that'll
create
an
nft
and
at
the
end
of
the
process
there
will
be
a
new
token
in
your.
In
your
token,
wallet,
yeah.
C
Go
ahead
can
I
feedback
on
this
a
little
because
I
tried
it
just
before
the
meeting
can
be.
Can
the
check
how
much
bsh
you
have
in
the
wallet
be
done
when
you
click
the
button,
because
in
the
moment
there
was
some
bsh
in
my
wallet,
I
start
creating
the
token
and
it's
run
out
of
funds
in
the
middle
somewhere
when
there
was
updating
some
of
the
data,
maybe
like
mutable
or
unmutable.
A
That's
good
feedback,
yeah
yeah!
This
is
there's
a
all
of
the
UI
I'm
going
to
show
today
needs
massive
Improvement.
That's
just
you
know,
that's
just
the
tip
of
the
iceberg.
Yeah
you're
right!
It
should
do
that.
A
You
know
this
is
a
week
old
and
when
I
started,
I
wasn't
even
sure.
If
I
could
do
this
as
a
front
end
app
so
but
yeah,
that's
great
feedback,
stuyan
yeah!
So
doing
this,
you
know
try
and
try
and
put
like
at
least
25
cents
of
I.
Don't
think
it'll
be
more
than
that.
Just
a
few
other
features
that
are
everything
else
is
totally
optional,
there's
a
not
safe
for
work
check
box.
A
So
if
I,
inevitably
I,
you
know
people
are
going
to
want
to
make
nfts
out
of
pictures
that
are
not
safe
for
work.
So
if
they
voluntarily
check
this
box,
then
the
decks
will
automatically
detect
that
it's
not
safe
for
work
and
not
display
it
in
the
typical
feed
and
I'll
get
to
there.
There's
a
there's,
a
community
moderation
aspect
to
this
that
I'll
get
into
in
a
minute
under
Advanced.
A
If
you
have
a
bigger
image
that
you
want
to
display,
when
someone
clicks
on
the
icon,
you
can
put
that
here
and
that
will
load
a
bigger
image
like
a
more
high
resolution
image
and
then
there's
this
immutable
data
and
mutable
data.
So
all
of
this
that
I'm
covering
right
now
is
optional.
A
But
so
here
is
an
example
of
a
token
that
I
created
so
I
use
stable,
diffusion
to
generate
this
whale
swimming
through
the
Stars
and,
if
you
scroll
down
on
the
bottom,
the
Genesis
data.
A
This
is
part
of
the
the
simple
Ledger
protocol,
which
is
pretty
typical,
the
mutable
data
and
then
immutable
data
is
the
new
tech
that
we've
developed
here
at
the
psf,
and
so
the
immutable
data
is
basically
locked
in
at
token
creation
and
it
can
never
change
and
the
data
that
I
added
here
in
the
extra
immutable
data
can
be
seen
right
here
under
user
data
and
and
so
I
I
added
some
Json.
So
it
automatically
got
formatted
as
a
Json
string.
A
A
C
In
this
Genesis
data,
there's
some
type,
which
is
fungible.
Is
it
something
meaningful
or
just
like
there
for.
A
Well,
it's
a
it's
a
simple!
Oh!
That's!
Why?
Because
the
indexers
is
it's,
it's
actually
a
type
one.
So
it's
actually
actually
is
a
fungible
token.
So
I'm
glad
you
brought
this
upstorian,
because
this
is
something
I
should
have
talked
about
at
first.
So
there
are
simple
nfts,
which
is
simply
a
fungible
token
of
quantity,
one
decimal
zero
and
no
minting
baton,
and
then
there's
nfts,
which
are
generated
from
the
burning
of
a
group.
A
Token,
it's
a
whole
different
protocol,
and
so
the
deck
supports
both
it
will
detect
the
so
this
app
makes
simple
nfts.
It
doesn't,
doesn't
create
a
group
token
and
then
burn
it
to
create
the
nft.
It
just
makes
a
simple
nft,
so
so
it
is
technically
a
fungible
token
or
a
type
one
SLP
token.
B
Stoyan,
thanks
for
bringing
that
up,
I
would
I've
been
thinking
about
that
too
and
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
I
still
need
to
kind
of
work
out
in
my
demo
with
how
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
things
work
together,
but
that
that
was
a
great
point
that
I
hadn't
seen
yet.
So,
thanks
for
pointing
that
out,
yeah.
C
A
That's
the
token
creation
I
really
encourage
everyone
to
try
this
out,
give
me
feedback,
I've,
already
gotten
some
great
feedback
today
in
this
meeting
and
I'm
going
to
continue
to
work
on
on
making
this
UI
more,
you
know
less
clunky
and
less
brittle.
So
that
is
the
token
creator.
B
Yeah
Crystal
I
have
a
question
on
that,
so
one
I
know
we'll
get
to
this
later,
but
one
of
the
things
I
do
on
the
owner
of
stuff
I'm
working
on
is
I
filter
out
anything,
that's
not
65
or
129.
I
know
the
particular
types
that
are
group,
tokens
and
or
nft
generated
from
burning
a
group
token
right.
Those
kind
of
things,
so
is
it
going
to
be
I?
Guess
one
of
the
things
I'll
eventually
talk
about
later?
A
B
A
I
just
yeah.
No,
that's
a
that's
a
good
point.
This
is
a
good
time
to
cover
that
so
because
I
had
to
do
the
same
thing
when
I
was
modifying
the
decks
this
week
is
so
a
legit
nft.
He
is
tight,
let's
see
65
type
65
and
that
should
be
in
here,
but
I
guess
it's
not,
but
but
that
that
is
part
of
the
data
that
comes
back
from
the
from
the
index.
A
So
that's
really
easy
to
detect
if
it
says
if
it's
type,
65
it's
an
nft
and
then
to
detect
simple
nfts
the
way
I'm
doing
it
is
the
decimals
have
to
be
zero.
The.
A
A
So
yeah
I
mean
what's
what
I
really
want
to
emphasize
here
is
some
of
the
things
that
are
going
on
under
the
hood,
and
so
one
of
the
things
is,
you
don't
need
any
psf
tokens
to
create
an
nft
and
so
that
that's
a
big
Improvement
in
the
user
experience
where
what
you're
actually
doing
is
the
pay
to
write
database
is
burning,
has
its
own,
its
own
inventory
of
psf
tokens
and
it's
burning
those
and
letting
you
basically
reimburse
it
with
bch2,
eliminate
the
need
for
the
end
user
to
actually
have
psf
tokens.
A
So
that's
that's
a
relatively
new
feature
and
it's
just
been
working
great.
It's
what's
unlocked
a
lot
of
this
lowered
the
friction
to
a
lot
of
these
apps
I'm,
starting
to
put
these
quick
video
guides
at
the
top
top
right
corner
of
all
all
My
Views
and
all
my
apps
yep
and
then
adding
an
easy
way
to
Mark,
not
safe
for
work,
tokens
and
yeah
and
then
being
able
to
specify
a
high-res
image
and
additional
data.
This
is
all
new
like
this
is
stuff.
A
Okay,
so
that's
the
nft
Creator
I'm
gonna,
move
on
to
the
decks
and
some
of
the
changes
in
the
decks,
and
so,
if
you
click
on
that
link,
it
will
take
you
to
a
splash
page
with
a
little
more
information
about
the
decks.
But
but
the
main
change
to
that's
been
happening
in
the
in
the
decks.
Here
is
the
the
original
view
that
would
come
up
and
did
a
table.
A
That's
been
moved
to
fungible
tokens
and
that
will
list
any
token
that
doesn't
register
as
an
nft,
a
simple
enough
to
your
regular
nft
and
then
now
it
displays
this
grid
of
images.
So
these
are
all
nfts
that
I
created
from
stable
diffusion
images
and
it
auto
it's
mobile
first,
so
it'll
automatically
reconfigure
itself
for
for
a
cell
phone
or
for
small
screens
or
a
tablet
and
there's
three
main
buttons
on
each
of
these
token
cards.
A
So
the
info
you
can
get
more
info
take
if
you
click
that
link
will
take
you
to
the
the
block.
Explorer
flag
is
for
flagging,
inappropriate,
like
not
safe
for
work
images.
So
if
you
click
that
what
it'll
do
is
it
will
write
an
entry
to
the
pay
to
write
database
and
right
now,
I
have
it
set
to
three?
A
So
if
if
if,
if
an
image,
if
some,
if
the
flag
button
is
clicked
three
times
and
I
might
add
it
to
where
it
can't
be
from
the
same,
address
has
to
be
from
three
separate
addresses
this.
This
is
all
I'm
going
to
play
with
this
and
and
solicit.
This
is
why
I'm
putting
it
out
here,
because
I
want
to
solicit
feedback
I,
don't
claim
to
have
gotten
it
right
on
the
first
try.
A
But
the
way
it's
configured
at
the
moment
is
that
if,
if
three
people
click
the
button
and
Report
flag,
a
picture
as
not
safe
for
work,
then
the
bch
Dex
server
software-
that's
that's
delivering
this
data
will
move
that
token,
we'll
we'll
flag
it
as
not
safe
for
work,
and
so
one
of
the
things
I'm
going
to
work
on
next
is
a
series
of
I'll
have
a
drop
down
here
where
you
can
do
filters
so
right
now,
it's
filtered
by
most
recent.
That's
the
default,
but
you'll
be
able
to
filter.
A
You
know
most
expensive
least
expensive
and
not
safe
for
work
safe
for
work
or
both
and
and
so
those
are
the
first
few
filters
that
are
that
are
gonna
gonna
come
up
and
then
and
then,
if
you
click
the
buy
button,
it'll
kick
off
a
series
of
transactions
where
this
this
wallet
will
write
to
the
pay
to
write
database
and
generate
a
counter
offer
and
attempt
to
purchase
that
token
and
and
if
it's
successful,
then
it
will.
A
The
token
will
appear
in
your
token
wallet
and
and
when
you
so
here's
a
little
bit
of
caveat,
that's
a
little
hard
to
communicate.
A
So
when
you
generate
that
counter,
when
this
wallet
generates
a
counter
offer,
it
needs
to
move
the
utxo
that
you're
using
to
pay
to
buy
the
token
to
a
location
that
can't
be
spent
by
this
wallet
directly
so
that
it's
not
accidentally
spent
while
you're
waiting
for
the
seller,
the
seller
software
to
complete
the
transaction.
A
So
so
you
will
notice
the
bch
leave
your
wallet,
even
though
at
the
before
the
token
has
appeared
in
your
wallet
and
it's
not
actually
gone,
it's
moved
to
one
more
address
on
the
HD
wallet
and
to
get
it
back.
You
hit
this
button,
you
go
to
the
sweep
View
and
you
click
on
this
button
at
the
bottom,
and
this
will
cancel
any
open
orders
that
are
waiting
for
the
seller
to
complete
the
complete
the
trade.
A
Anything
that's
just
hanging
out,
those
will
be
destroyed
and
the
money
will
be
moved
back
into
your
web
wallet.
So
that's
how
you
reclaim
your
money
if
you
didn't
get
the
token
if,
for
some
reason,
the
seller
software
is
not
active
and
can't
complete
the
trade.
B
A
Yeah,
you
know
so
you
can
I
I'm
I've
been
throwing
these
up
there
for
10
cents
and
then
the
price
of
Bitcoin
cash
fluctuates.
So
it
changes
it
a
little
bit
but
yeah.
Basically,
if
you,
if
you
just
go
on
a
buy-in
spree
and
you're
like
you,
know,
where's
my
money,
that's
where
your
money
is,
and
that's
a
nice
thing
is
because
of
this
protocol.
B
Superhero
looks
a
little
bit
like
you.
Do
you
have
big
pecs
like
that.
A
Oh
even
bigger,
but
they're,
not
muscle,
yeah
yeah,
pretty
interesting,
like
I've,
been
using
a
night
Cafe
and
it
really
doesn't
seem
to
have
a
good
understanding
of
what
a
Bitcoin
is
I
tried
to.
This
was
supposed
to
be
like
a
Bitcoin
horde
and
it
I
think
it
just.
It
didn't
know
how
to
interpret
that.
It.
A
Stuff
yeah,
it's
fun
stoyan!
Thank
you!
So
much
for
for
the
demo,
you
showed
in
the
last
meeting,
I
just
been
playing
with
night
Cafe
and
I
got
access
to
the
dolly
one
two
and
that's
pretty
fun.
A
Okay,
so
those
are
the
big
changes
in
the
demo.
Keep
in
mind
the
the
ux
is
brittle
and
clunky,
but
I
really
want
to
see
more
people
use
it
create
nfts.
So
so
selling
nfts
is
harder
like
buying
nfts.
You
just
go
to
that
website
and
you
click
on
the
one
you
want
to
buy
and
if
you
have
Bitcoin
cash
it
just
works.
Hopefully,
if
you
want
to
sell,
you
still
need
to
like
run,
there's
a
back-end
piece
of
software
that
you
need
to
run
locally.
A
A
That's
that's
critical
to
this
whole
thing
working
and
so
that's
why
it's
great
to
run
on
a
Raspberry
Pi,
because
it
doesn't,
you
know
it's
low
power.
It
can
just
sit
there
and
do
its
thing
when
needed
and
of
course
you
can
also
run
it
on
a
desktop,
and
so
there's
videos
and
code
and
and
instructions
at
if
you
go
to
dex.fullstack.cash.
A
A
A
You
know,
I
covered
the
flag
button
for
flagging,
not
safe
for
work
images,
and
we
we
talked
about
simple
nfts
versus
regular
nfts.
So
the
next
step
for
me
is
to
add
those
filters.
I
talked
about
to
be
able
to
sort
the
different
results
and
have
a
have
a
better
user
experience
on
the
decks.
The
the
UI
needs
a
lot
of
Polish
and
it
needs
better
error
handling
and
in
particular,
error
recovery.
A
So
a
lot
of
these
buttons
that
you're
clicking
that
I
showed
today
they
set
off
a
very
complex
series
of
network
calls
and
if
any
one
of
them
fails,
it's
stoyan
experience.
The
whole
thing
fails,
and,
and
so
what
I
need
to
do
is
break
those
up
into
retryable
chunks.
So
it's
like
okay
step.
One
worked
step:
two
failed
go
back
and
retry
step
two:
okay,
that
succeeded
go
on
to
step
three,
a
step.
Three
fails:
go
back
and
retry
strap
three
like
at
least
like.
A
A
This
is
all
again
being
funded
by
Ava,
labs
and
and
ecash,
and
so
everything
I'm,
building,
I'll
Fork
to
ecash,
including
the
pay
to
write
database,
will
have
a
separate
pay
to
write
database
running
on
the
ecash,
blockchain
and
and
then
finally,
we'll
build
a
bridge
between
ecash
and
bch
of
psf
tokens.
We'll
have
a
psf
token
on
ecash
and
we'll
have
a
psf
token
on
bitcoin
cash
and
you'll
be
able
to
move
value
across
chains
from
our
psf
through
our
psf
Bridge
foreign.
A
So
yeah,
that's
that's
a
lot.
That's
I
mean
that's.
The
bulk
of
this
meeting
is
focus
on
the
decks,
because
that's
where
all
the
action
is
right
now,
let
me
run
through
some
other
Tech
updates.
A
Wallet.Fullstack.Cash
got
a
series
of
UI
updates,
minor
ones,
just
just
real,
simple
things
like
you
know,
if
you
send
a
token,
does
you
know?
Does
your
token
balance
update
at
the
end
of
that
and
the
little
little
little
ux
bugs
like
that
were
fixed
a
lot
of
those
the
pay
to
write
database
npm
Library,
as
well
as
the
pinning
service,
was
updated
to
allow
pinning
of
Json
data
I
still
need
to
add
code,
examples
and
documentation
for
this.
This
was
needed
to
to
create
some
of
the
demos
I
just
showed.
A
So
not
only
can
you
pin
ipfs
content
if
you
have
the
CID
I
showed
that
a
couple
meetings
ago,
but
now,
if
you
just
have
Json
like
the
mutable
data
or
the
immutable
data,
and
you
need
to
get
that
onto
ipfs,
you
need
a
CID
to
pin.
You
can
now
do
that.
You
can
just
upload
a
blob
of
Json
data
and
it
will
one
what
happens.
A
Is
the
individual
pinning
service
node
will
pin
that
and
give
you
back
the
CID,
and
then
you
can
issue
another
right
to
the
database
to
ask
all
the
pinning
services
to
pin
that
CID
and
that's
what
allowed
me
to
to
build
the
nft
Creator
and
the
and
the
buyer
wallet
that
didn't
need
a
back-end
server,
so
kind
of
subtle,
I'll
I'll
talk
more
about
this,
because
I
need
to
add
the
the
documentation
code
examples,
but
this
is
cool
in
that
like
not
only
can
you
write
data
to
the
pay
to
write
database
and
then
pin
ipfs
content,
you
can
now
like
create
new
ipfs
content
and
then
pin
it
like
just
just
exchanging
this
Json
date.
A
A
And
that's
what's
so
special
about
this,
the
decks
in
these
demos
is
this
wasn't
even
possible.
A
week
ago
like
like,
like
we
finally
have
the
infrastructure
needed
to
do
something
like
this,
like
turn
a
picture
into
an
ft
like
seemingly
simple,
but
but
the
all
the
infrastructure
required
to
do
that
simple
thing
is
the
same
infrastructure
required
to
build
an
unsensible
Craigslist,
or
you
know,
whatever
sort
of
cool
blockchain
app
that
you
want
to
build
like
like
a
lot
of
it's
going
to
need
these
like
primitive
infrastructure,.
B
That
I
have
hats
off
to
you.
That's
fantastic
I
mean
really
one
of
those
things
that
goes
from
zero
to
one
I
mean
this
is
there's
not
there's
not
a
lot
of
things
that
we
could
say
that.
We've
that
that
you
know
around
the
world
I
mean
zero
to
one
is
a
big
deal,
so
congrats
is
really
cool.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
so
another
update
big
kind
of
breaking
change,
updated
the
major
version
of
the
paid
right
database,
npm
library
is
it
used
to
bundle
minimum
SLP
wallet
and
bchjs
in
with
it,
and
now
it
doesn't
now
you
inject
it
at
runtime,
and
that
makes
the
library
much
smaller
and
it
also
aligns
it
with
a
bunch
of
the
other
libraries
like
the
sweep
library
and
the
there's
a
sweep
Library
there's
a
message:
Library,
an
encryption
library
and
there's
other
libraries,
and
so
stoyan
you'd
asked
me
in
our
last
meeting
about
how
to
include
these
libraries,
if
you
needed
to
include
them
externally
with
a
script
tag
or
just
include
them
in
the
package.json
doing
it.
A
This
way,
minimal
SLP
wallet
is
the
only
one
that
you
need
to
include
with
a
script
tag
everything
else
you
can
load
in
the
package.json
and
it'll,
compile
with
browser
fi
or
webpack.
Just
fine.
It's
really
just
a
minimal
SLP
wallet
and
bchjs
that
webpack
sort
of
pukes
on,
and
that's
why
it
has
to
be
loaded
with
a
script
tag.
But
then
everything
else,
all
these
all
these
sort
of
plug-in
libraries
they
can.
They
can
use
the
normal
development
workflow.
C
A
I
really
appreciate
you
following
my
commit
so
close,
I
yeah,
that's
awesome!
A
Okay,
this
next
one
ipfs,
oh
yeah,
so
so
ipfs
cord
Library,
which
is
what
is
like
the
secret
sauce
that
creates
our
mesh
Network
on
ipfs
and
makes
everything
work.
Our
web3
infrastructure
work.
That's
been
updated
from
common
JS
to
esm
format,
so
import
instead
of
require-
and
the
reason
for
this
is
that
ipfs
HTTP
client,
which
is
the
library
that
ipfs
cord
uses
to
control
a
go
ipfs
node
no
longer
supports
esm,
they're,
really
bad
about
this.
A
Where
they'll
just
be
like
surprise,
like
you,
can't
use
this
in
an
esm
project
anymore
or
like
surprise,
we
don't
support
node
14
anymore.
You
have
to
upgrade,
or
else
you
can't
run.
Ipfs
they're
really
bad
about
that.
So
this
was
another
sort
of
unpleasant
surprise
from
them
and
while
I
was
developing,
all
this
stuff,
I
started
having
issues
with
ipfs
and
I.
A
Just
wasn't
sure
you
know
where
the
problem
was,
and
so
when
you're
faced
with
that
as
a
developer,
the
best
thing
to
do
is
to
update
to
the
latest
software,
because
if
you
go
to
the
group
and
you're
like
hey
I'm,
having
problems,
the
very
first
question
they're
going
to
ask
you
is:
are
you
running
the
latest
version
and
if
the
answer
is
no
they're
going
to
tell
you
to
do
that
before
they
help
you,
and
so
that's
why
I
needed
to
update
it,
which
necessitated
dropping
support
for
esm.
A
This
kind
of
puts
us
in
a
little
bit
of
a
bind
because
the
pay
to
write
database,
the
the
back
end
service.
It
can't
upgrade
because
it
depends
on
orbit
DB,
which
is
the
the
secret
sauce
that
makes
the
pay
to
write
database
function
and
that
does
not
support
this
newer
version
of
ipfs.
So
it's
going
to
be
stuck
on
this
older
version
until
something
gives
and
right
now,
it's
not
a
problem
and
it's
not
going
to
be
a
problem
for
a
while.
A
But
if
it
goes
on
for
three
months,
it's
going
to
become
a
problem.
So
just
something
to
keep
in
mind
and
yeah,
so
that
was
an
adventure
for
me.
Learning
like
I've
I'm,
familiar
with
using
esm
on
front
end
stuff.
That's
been
that
way
for
a
while,
but
the
node.js
ecosystem
is
really
ramping
up
this
conversion
from
common
JS
to
esm
and
there's
still
a
lot
of
stuff.
That's
not
supported,
like
like
code
coverage
when
I
switched
esm,
like
all
of
a
sudden.
A
All
of
a
sudden
all
my
code
coverage
went
to
zero
percent,
because
the
NYC
package
that
does
code
coverage
doesn't
support
esm.
So
I
had
to
figure
out
how
to
hack
that
and
so
I'm
I'm
begrudgingly
and
slowly
moving
stuff
over
esm,
but
but
I
I'm
not
going
to
be
too
proactive
about
it
until
the
rest
of
the
ecosystem
catches
up
because
I
don't
want
to
do
the
same
thing
that
ipfs
just
did
to
everybody,
which
is
like
surprise.
You
can't
use
this
thing
anymore
and
nobody
likes
that.
B
A
Yeah,
it's
just
it's
a
what
do
you?
What
do
you
call
that
occupational
hazard?
A
Okay?
So
that's
that
and
then
created
a
workflow
for
deploying
at
oh
yeah.
Yeah
I
wanted
to
show
this
to
you.
So
you
know
we
talk
a
lot
about
decentralization
and
censorship,
resistance
and
infrastructure
that
is
censorship,
resistant
and,
and
so
one
of
the
things
I've
been
working
on
is
so
real
quick.
Let
me
show
how
to
get
this
is
in
the
the
bch
wallet
web3
Android
repository.
This
is
what
runs
wallet.fullstack.cash.
A
There's
a
folder
called
deploy,
and
if
you
go
in
here,
there's
a
readme
and
a
bunch
of
code
that
talks
about
the
different
ways
this
app
can
be
deployed.
So
when
the
app
is
built
it
I
I
put
it
on
a
server
that
serves
wallet.fullstack.cash.
It's
a
very
conventional
web,
2
workflow
and
that's
one
way,
I
deploy
it,
but
then
I
also
compile
it
and
deploy
that
compiled
version
to
filecoin
and
ipfs,
and
and
that's
why,
when
you
scroll
down
to
the
bottom,
there
is
site
mirrors.
A
So
one
is
loading
the
app
from
filecoin
and
one
is
loading
it
from
GitHub
pages.
So
if
one
of
these
sites
go
down,
you
can
just
go
to
one
of
these
mirrors
and
the
app
keeps
running.
In
addition,
the
the
source
code
gets
deployed
to
filecoin
and
radical.
So
if
GitHub
ever
cracks
down
on
crypto,
which
I
think
is
a
highly
likely
scenario
in
the
next
five
years,
all
our
code
will
the
source
code
itself
will
be
backed
up
on
filecoin
and
radical,
so
people
can
get
the
the
source
code
from
alternate
sources.
A
A
Deploy
will
will
run
some
of
the
scripts
in
in
this,
and
so
the
point
the
point
here
is
that
is
that
not
only
are
we
building
decentralized
infrastructure,
so
you
run
a
full
note,
like
the
whole
cache
stack
everything
that's
at
cash
stack.info,
you
know
the
indexers
and
those
those
are
all
things
you
can
run
on
a
desktop
on
and
to
support
your
own
local
community.
You
don't
have
to
be
dependent
on
any
third
party
and
the
things
like
the
pay
to
write
database
and
all
this
token
stuff.
A
A
Exactly
rare
and
very
dangerous,
but
so
not
only
is
the
infrastructure
decentralized,
but
now
the
front-end
software
is
decentralized.
You
know
we're
putting
it
on
filecoin
we're
putting
it
on
radical,
we're,
putting
it
in
multiple
locations.
So
if
you
go
to
wallet.fullstack.cash
and
that
doesn't
load
for
some
reason
you
can
you
can
get
the
source
code,
you
can
get
the
compiled
out
easily
off
of
filecoin
ipfs
or
radical
and
load
it
yourself,
and
the
idea
is,
and
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
at
the
end
of
the
logic's
network
state.
A
But
he
has
this
concept
of
a
network
archipelago
which
is
a
bunch
of
like
basically
islands
and
meat
space
like
like
not
not
physical
Islands,
but
physical
locations
around
the
world
that
are
all
part
of
a
common
Community
but
they're
also
self-sufficient
and
isolated.
So
each
island
can
have
its
own
infrastructure
and
not
be
dependent
on
the
other
Islands,
even
though
they
are
associated
with
them.
And
so
it's
just
it's.
You
know.
A
A
B
So
I'm
excited
about
just
kind
of
showing,
where
I'm
at
with
this
right
now
I
I,
while
Chris,
has
been
building
this
decentralized
nft
creation
tool,
I've
been
doing
sort
of
learning
watching
because
I
want
to
build
something
that
makes
it
easy
to
do
it
from
a
centralized
fashion.
That's
just
a
little
easier
for
people
to
buy
the
problem.
Is
it's
centralized?
So
we
know
that.
B
There's
issues
with
that
and
last
time
I
talked
about
this
stowing
Brock
a
great
point
about
like
integrating
web
3
Concepts
onto
this
like
the
way
meta
metamask
works
with
openc
and
such
so.
It's
eventually
I'd
like
to
talk
more
about
that,
not
necessarily
here,
but
I
saw
now
what
you
sewing
created
and
what
Chris
has
created
with
full
stack
and
how
it
can
actually
be
a
browser
thing,
that's
owned,
so
there's
stuff
I
want
to
talk
to
because
right
now,
I'm
just
trying
to
get
it
done,
because
it's
it's.
A
B
I'm
excited
about
just
making
it
easy
now
to
for
people
to
buy
something.
So
here,
I'm,
gonna,
I'm,
just
gonna,
do
a
I
did
a
little
demo
last
time,
and
this
is
a
little
a
little
deeper,
but
I
didn't
get
as
much
done
as
I
really
wanted
to
over
the
past
few
months,
because
lots
of
stuff
going
on,
but
basically
once
you
log
in
you
can
see,
I
have
different
nfts
that
are
available
to
buy
and
I'm
trying
to
make
it.
So
it
works
with
any
SLP.
B
Nft
I
mean
even
sweet,
which
doesn't
follow
any
of
JT
Freeman's
original
design
for
how
tokens
are
stored
or
content
is
stored,
but
also
like,
if
you
have
this,
this
particular
fractal
one
you
build
it
up,
and
you
know
you
can
view
it.
This
way.
Try
to
make
it
really
simple
to
do
stuff
like
this.
So
now.
Also
you
can
see
over
here.
I
have
a
wallet
that
stores
bch,
which
I
got
about
45
dollars,
which,
because
bch
has
gone
down
about
10
in
the
past
week.
B
A
B
Yeah,
it's
it's
really
I
mean
I
love
the
you
know,
including
it
right
here,
just
tracking
how
it's
doing
compared
to
everything
else.
I
bought
like
twenty
dollars
yesterday
and
I
was
kind
of
watching
to
see.
If
it
went
up
and
down.
You
know,
you
know
just
because
it's
kind
of
fun
to
watch
all
that
you
can
see.
Things
are
kind
of
going
crazy,
but
you
know
it's
kind
of
fun
to
watch
that,
and
then
this
is
just
a
simple
way
to
do
it,
similar
user
interface
for
the
psf.
B
B
A
B
Oh
yeah,
not
yet
I'm
still
I
could
I
think.
My
next
thing
is
in
the
next
two
weeks.
Maybe
three
I'd
like
to
get
to
a
point
where
anybody?
Okay?
Well,
not
anybody,
but
we
have
an
alpha
launch
that
I
give
you
a
code
and
you
can
create
an
account
and
you
can
just
create
nfts.
In
fact,
I'll
probably
actually
put
two
dollars
worth
of
bch
in
there,
but
it
won't
allow
you
to
extract
it.
A
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
to
to
sort
of
do
a
limited
release
and
and
and
really
control
the
amount
of
people
using
it,
because
that's
gonna
that
way.
You're
not
getting
a
fire
hose
of
feedback
right.
B
I
I
can't
I
can't
handle
it
I
too
much
feedback,
so
I've
been
just
doing
a
bunch
of
fun,
fractal,
art
and
stuff,
like
that.
That's
just
the
beautiful
I,
just
love
the
designs
and
the
colors.
So
I
have
done
a
little
bit
of
the
you
can
see
right
here.
I
have
an
issue
where
it
pulls
the
Json
in,
but
sometimes
it
doesn't
do
the
bch,
and
you
know
you
can
see
the
items
are
still
there.
So
I
don't
know.
There's
issues
there's
everywhere,
trying.
B
C
So
are
these
like
wallet
controls
the
real
one
or
just
like
moocs
like?
Are
they
working.
B
So
so
I'm
yeah
this
is
actually
hitting
bch
wall,
psf,
PCH
wallet
in
the
back
end
and
and
everything
is
every
individual
person
has
their
own
wallet
so
and
in
many
ways
I
like
to
change
how
this
vernacular
is
used
and
go
with.
If
it's
centralized
call
it
an
account
rather
than
a
wallet
and
then,
if
it's
unhosted,
if
it's
your
wallet,
then
call
it
wallet
because
I
feel
like
I,
don't
want
to
pretend
like
this
is
decentralized.
B
A
Yeah
and
I
want
to
take
a
minute
to
talk
about
that,
because
I
think
this
is
the
way
you're
using
it
fascinates
me
because
I
didn't
intend
people
use
it
this
way,
but
so
because
Aaron's
expertise
is
in
PHP
and
what
he
what's
essentially
happening
under
the
hood
is
when
you
click
on
a
button.
A
It's
it's
issuing
a
command
line,
argument
to
psfp
CH
walk
because
it's
a
command
line,
app
and
and
I
didn't
intend
it
to
be
used
that
way,
and
but
I
love
that
that
Aaron's
created
something
that's
beautiful
and
functional,
and
you
know
what
he
doesn't
need
to
be
a
JavaScript
expert,
because
we
have
this
nice
command
line
app
and
he
can
just
leverage
that
and
use
the
language
that
he
is
more
comfortable
with
and
I
I
think
that's
great
I
I
want
to
see
more
of
that.
It's
it's
been.
B
Really
easy
to
use
once
you've
figured
out
how
to
make
that
connection,
and
it
really
separates
so
I.
Don't
have
one
server
but
I
mean
I've.
I've
got
multiple
layers
so
that
all
the
blockchain
work
is
done.
Like
I
know,
you
know
different
part
of
the
country
in
a
different
system.
You
know
it's
it's.
You
know
it's
kind
of
I,
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
it
and
talk
about
earlier
you're
talking
about
breaking
apart,
complex
things.
Well,
basically,
I
put
it
into
a
task
queue
and
each
one
tracks
when
it
was
done.
B
B
And
that
that
was
what
I
liked.
So
let
me
let
me
actually
I'm
gonna
actually
create
a
nft
live
here,
just
because
I
think
this
will
be
kind
of
fun
to
see
so
I
hit,
create
and
I
have.
These
are
actually
token
groups,
so
the
6529
memes
I,
love
punk6529,
so
I've
been
taking
his
memes
and
just
because
I
feel
like
control
the
memes
of
of
the
world
yeah.
Oh
production
is.
A
B
The
memes
of
protection,
exactly
so
I've
been,
and
he
put
something
out
there.
He
wants
people
to
take
the
means,
he's
created
and
do
additional
things
with
them,
so
I
want
to
bring
them
to
the
Bitcoin
Cash
blockchain
There's.
So
that's
why
I'm
working
on
that
so
I've
also
created
something
called
the
own
rare
Apes,
which
is
dumb.
Don't
get
me
wrong.
I
realized
it,
but.
B
That,
if,
if
so,
if
we
do
get
to
the
point,
I
want
to
get
to
this
point
where
someone
comes
in
with
a
credit
card
and
buys
something
I,
don't
want
to
be
them
buying
Bitcoin
cash,
because
that
is
a
bad
thing
to
have
people,
but
they
can
buy
an
nft
and
then
they
get
and
if
Bitcoin
cash
free
with
it
right
that
kind
of
idea
that
you
know
that's
locked
into
the
platform,
so
they
can
buy
and
make
nfts,
but
they
can't
remove
it
until
they.
Actually,
you
know
so,
that's
the
thing!
B
I,
don't
know,
that's
the
concept.
So
let
me
just
mathematically
pure
art,
I'm,
going
to
create
one
right
here.
So
basically
you
take
that
and
I'm
going
to
take
one
of
these
nft
one
of
these
and
I'll
go
with
this
I'll
go
with
this
one
right
here
and
then
just
drag
it
over
here
it
does
the
upload
you
can
see.
B
Oh,
you
know,
I
should
probably
have
I
I
re
I
need
to
make
this
so
that
it's
automatically
names
things
properly
so
that
I
I
can
do
a
bunch
of
things
at
once
and
not
feel
like
I'm
stepping
on
a
lot
of
things.
But
let
me
just
make
sure
I
know
which
oh
I
know
what
I
can
do
here
we
go.
B
Let
me
go
back
over
here
and
say:
mathematically
pure
art,
23
I
think
is
where
I'm
at.
A
B
B
It's
not
actually
done
yet
so
I
should
really
have
a
status
thing,
saying
being
created.
Here's
the
status
where
it's
at
right
now,
here's
the
group
token
that
was
created.
You
know
stuff
like
that,
but
you
can
see
it's
already
at
least
functioning
yeah.
That
is
so
awesome
and
I'm
not
going
to
show
behind
the
scenes,
because
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
people
to
go.
Oh
great,
I
know
how
to
crack
Aaron's
code,
because
it's
bad
anyway.
B
So
anyway,
once
that's
done,
it
will
actually
it's
sitting
in
the
back
background.
It's
like
every
30
seconds,
and
so
this
is
one
of
the
things
I.
Don't
know.
You
know
similar
to
the
task
queue,
ideas,
I,
don't
know
how
much
to
hit
the
blockchain
yet
because
I
don't
know
how
scalable
all
of
this
is
so
I
might
have
it
every
30
seconds.
It
makes
a
query.
It
might
be
two
minutes
it
might.
B
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
questions
on
that
so
anyway,
that's
the
demo
to
be
able
to
create
things
to
be
able
to
show
it.
You
can
see
there
is
stability
and
I
haven't
gotten
to
this
point
yet
to
actually
hit
sell
button
and
put
a
pricing
on
it
and
then
similar
to
what
you
were
talking
about
where
you
can
filter
you
can
do
a
searches.
If
you
want
to
you,
want
just
want
one
of
the
owner
Apes,
you
can
do
a
search
for
owner
apes
and
that's
all
coming.
B
Here's
the
stuff
that
I
was
looking
at
is
making
sure
that
I
follow
something
so
that
the
nft
decks
works
and
you
can
move
those
scene
seamlessly
over
to
own
rare
and
you
can
take
stuff
from
own
rare
and
move
it
right
over
seamlessly
to
the
decks.
So
I'm
I'm,
taking
a
look
at
all
the
data.
That's
out
here,
seeing
how
you're
doing
this,
and
so
a
lot
of
stuff,
I
I
need
to
make
changes
to
yeah.
A
You
know,
let's
make
a
point
of
collaborating
on
this,
because
I
think
that's
where
we're
at
now
is
like
you're
building
this
I'm
building
the
decks
and
then
launch
pad,
which
is
a
member
of
the
psf
they're
building
their
own
sort
of
nft
Creator
system.
And
if
you
go
back
to
that
that
page,
you
were
on
that
showed
that
the
token
Explorer
there's
only
a
handful
of
State.
What
I
want
to
turn
into
a
standardized
schema
at
this
point.
There's
the
user
data
property
in
both
the
mutable
and
immutable.
A
That's
new,
but
I
think
that
that
property
is
going
to
stay
there
and
that'll
just
be
user-defined
data.
So
it's
a
string
that
might
resolve
into
Json,
but
it's
definitely
a
string,
and
so
there's
that
that's
one,
the
token
icon
in
the
mutable
data,
that's
something
that
we've
been
using
for
a
while
and
that's
definitely
going
to
stay
I,
also
like
that
full-size
image
property
below
it
that
that
we
could
rename
it.
A
But
something
like
that,
needs
to
exist
and
then
I
feel
like
there's
there's
one
other
thing,
but
really
those
are
the
those
four.
Those
four
properties
are
right.
Now,
like
I,
like
I,
think
what
we
should
do
is
yeah
not
so
thank
you
not
safe
for
work
yeah!
That's
what
I
realized
like
that
really
needs
to
go
in
there
somewhere.
So.
B
A
couple
of
questions
on
that
one
of
them
is
this
idea
of
making
sure
that
I
have
the
hash
of
the
original
file
somewhere,
so
people
can
validate
that
it's
the
same
file
and
I
I
was
putting
it
in
the
Genesis
data
in
the
document
hash.
Is
that
what
that
is
right
now
or
is
that
something
else?
What
is
that
one?
B
No,
because
I
can
just
put
it
immutable.
Data
I
could
put
that
in
the
mutable
data,
so
because
I
don't
want
people
to
change
that
yeah.
A
The
document
hash
has
to
be
a
Bitcoin
cash
transaction,
so
it
wouldn't
work
to
like
take
a
shot,
256
fingerprint
of
the
file
it
wouldn't
fit
in
there
I
mean
maybe
it
would
but
I,
don't
think
it
would.
But
so
really,
your
choices
is,
you
can
put
it
in
the
mutable
data
or
the
immutable
data
and
which
one
to
put
it
in
depends
on
the
context.
A
So
if
it's
a
picture
that
cannot
change,
then
you
would
put
it
in
the
immutable
data
and
if
it's
a
image
that
you
want
to
change
in
the
future,
then
you'd
put
that
in
the
mutable
data.
Okay,
yeah
I
I
do
love.
The
idea
of
you
know
that
that's
something
to
think
like
right.
Now
we
have
so
many
possible
we're
swimming
in
an
opportunity,
a
possibilities
it's
hard
to,
like
you
know,
compress
the
chaos
into
like
one
thing
at
this
point
right
because
yeah,
it
depends
on
the
context.
A
C
Right,
it
depends
what
kind
of
nft
you
are
creating
like.
If
it's
one
of
one
part
it
can
go
to
immutable
data,
but
you
can
see
now.
The
pfp
collection
is
like
a
hundred
thousand
images.
They
have
a
review
date
and
before
this
time
they
have
for
a
picture
some
common
image
like
coming
soon
or
something
right
right
and
on
the
release
date.
They
will
fill
it
with
some
real
image
right.
So
in
this
case
it
will
be
in
the
mutable
data
yeah.
C
Depends,
but
if
it's
like
how
to
see
some
collector
that
wants
to
buy
a
very
expensive
one-on-one,
it
should
be
in
the
immutable
data.
So
you
will
be
sure
nobody
will
not
mess
with
him.
So
it
depends
from
the
use
case.
So.
B
This
makes
it
like
something
that
actually
flexible,
but
still
only
changeable,
if
required
by
the
person,
the
original
Creator
and
not
anybody
else.
You
can't
just
go
to
the
web
server
and
change
out
a
file.
It
actually
is
easy
to
see
if
that
was
done
in
this
immutable
and
immutable
data,
you.
A
Know
what
this
reminds
me
of
is
choosing
a
license
for
your
open
source
is,
like
you
have
to
care
like,
and
so
I
think
the
owners
should
be
on
the
artist.
But
what
would
be
nice
is
if
they
had
a
menu
of
options
to
choose
of
standard
options
to
choose
from
right.
B
A
B
Yeah
I
I
love
that
I
I
appreciate
the
feedback
on
that.
That's
one
of
the
things
I
was
just
trying
to
see
if
I
could
find
the
one
that
I
just
created
but
and
that's
another.
A
Thing
that
I
wanna
I
there's
the
one
nft
that
I
created
that's
for
a
video
nft
and
in
there
I
actually
in
the
immutable
data
I
have
a
draft
of
a
of
a
license
and,
and
so
yeah.
That's
that's
definitely
like
where
this
needs
to
go.
I
think
open.
C
is
already
sort
of
started
to
make
some
inroads
in
there
of
creating
sort
of
standardized
nft
licenses.
B
So
I
want
to
show
you
I
clicked
on
the
token
link
right
now.
All
I'm
doing
is
storing
stuff
on
Genesis
right
now,
I've
done
immutable
data,
I'm
not
doing
immutable
data
I'm
just
putting
my
URL
in
the
document.
Hash
I
believe
this
does
fit
the
the
Sha
256,
but
I.
Don't
think
this
is
the
right
place
for
it.
I
think
it
should
go
into
immutable
data
or
somewhere
else.
B
As
long
as
it's
not
changeable
for
my
particular
purposes,
starian
had
good
reasons
why
to
do
the
other
ones,
but
anyway,
I
wanted
to
show
that
so
you
can
see
it
is
actually
out
there.
It
did
actually
finish
it
created
the
group
token.
It
created
the
nft
it
links
to
here.
There's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
on
everything
else.
B
I
I,
you
know
I
if
it's
fun,
creating
something
and
I
want
to
just
get
the
damn
thing
done.
You
know
at
least
get
it
started.
I
know
I'm
not
doing
all
the
right
things
with
where
to
store
the
data
I'd
like
to
store
it
on
ipfs,
because
I,
don't
because
there's
a
lot
of
other
things
coming
with
it,
but
I
want
to
talk
about
a
few
other
things.
One
of
them
is
like
economics
plan
I.
B
Don't
think
we
need
to
talk
about
all
this
stuff,
but
I'd
like
to
make
sure
the
artist
gets
paid,
even
if
it's
a
resale
so
make
sure
that
every
if
anything,
created
here
put
the
five
percent
in
the
immutable
data
that
says
the
creators
should
receive
five
percent
of
all
future
sales
and
what
maybe,
what
an
address
would
be
I
know
I
think
that's
a
bad
idea
to
have
it
stored
in
immutable,
so
they
can't
change
it
but
yeah.
What's
your
feeling
on
the
Creator?
Well,.
A
That's
an
interesting
thing
because
so
there's
a
there's
a
few
ways
we
could
skin
this
cat,
so
yeah
one
one
way
of
doing
this
would
be
to
put
the
data
in
the
immutable
data
and
and
then
at
that
point
like
there's
no
way
to
like
natively
enforce
those
rules
right
you'd
be
depending
on
the
dex's
to
enforce
those
rules
for
you
basically.
But
but
the
information
is
there
and
all
the
decks
has
to
do
is
read
it
and
then
comply
with
it
right.
B
A
What's
interesting-
and
this
is
outside
of
my
expertise,
but
you
know
I've
been
following
the
development
of
the
cash
token
protocol,
which
is
so
you
know,
theoretically,
going
to
come
out
in
May,
which
is
a
new
token
protocol
on
bitcoin
cash.
Unfortunately,
it's
going
to
be
native
to
bitcoin
cash,
so
it's
only
going
to
work
on
bitcoin
cash,
but
it's
based
on
covenants
which
I
I
can't
decide.
A
Yet
if
that's
a
horrible
idea
or
a
good
idea,
but
that's
what
they're
going
with
and-
and
it
is
at
least
theoretically
possible
to
enforce
these
things
with
covenants.
How
easy
it
will
be
remains
to
be
seen.
B
A
The
way
I
would
approach
this
rather
than
the
Covenant
thing
is
to
Simply,
publish
a
JavaScript
library
that
anybody
running
a
DEX
can,
you
know,
run
the
the
the
the
the
transaction
through
before
broadcasting
to
make
sure
that
it
it.
You
know,
checks
all
the
boxes
and
otherwise
you
know
throws
an
error,
and
if
we
had
just
an
open
source
library
that
could
do
that,
then
it's
like
you
know
what
it
like
use
it
or
don't
use
it.
B
B
To
ba.net
the
guy,
who
runs
va.net
that
created
all
these
AI
ponies
and
I'm,
like
dude
I'd
like
to
have
an
address
to
send
it
to
you,
for
you
know
any
future
sales,
because
I
I
feel
like
there's,
not
that
many
okay.
Let
me
just
show
you
this.
This
is
JT's
Freeman's,
listing
of
all
of
the
token
icon
repositories
and
and.
A
B
However,
I
I
pretty
much
believe
that
he's
basically
completely
abandoned
it,
because
this
is
no
longer
working
and
I've
been
buying
nft
every
day
for
two
or
three
cents,
and
this
doesn't
end
up
seeing
my
payment,
so
I
never
received
the
nfts,
so
I
believe
it's
completely,
but
I
love
what
he
did
and
I
think
it's
sad
that
at
the
same
time
that
we're
coming
up
with
other
great
things
for
SLP
nfts
he's
basically
abandoned
it
entirely.
So
it
is
what
it
is
right
now.
B
I've
been
ingesting
this
every
week,
even
though
there's
no
updates
I
just
wanna,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
anybody
who's
ever
put
something
on
Jungle
can
move
them
over
to
own
rare
and
it'll
still
have
the
nft.
It'll
still
have
the
graphic
and
stuff
like
that.
So
so
you
know,
I've
been
ingesting.
This
Json.
A
That's
awesome
yeah,
so
hopefully
I
don't
go
on
a
too
far
of
a
tangent,
but
what
you
just
described,
what
you're
experiencing
underscores
this
so
I
got
I
I,
just
I
need
to
tell
a
little
historical
story
here.
So
when
I
started
working
at
bitcoin.com-
and
it
was
just
shortly
after
the
fork-
the
Bitcoin
cash
BTC
Fork,
everybody
was
hot
to
get
tokens
and
bit
main
created
the
Wormhole
token
specification
and
then
James
Cramer
created
the
simple
Ledger
token
specification.
A
Gabriel
Cardona,
who
was
my
boss
at
the
time,
made
the
wise
choice
to
support
both
rather
than
try
and
bet
on
one
horse,
just
try
and
bet
on
both
of
them
in
case
one
fails
and
that's
exactly
what
happened
is
because
the
Wormhole
code
was
tightly
coupled
to
the
full
node.
When
that
team
got
defunded,
there
was
no
one
from
like
the
volunteer
open
source
community
that
was
willing
to
maintain
both
the
full
node
code
and
the
Wormhole
code
and
keep
it.
A
You
know
the
the
way
that
Bitcoin
cash
works
is
there's
these
hard
forks
and
if
the
shit's
not
maintained
it
gets
forked
off
the
network.
Absolutely
so
that
that
killed
the
entire
Wormhole
protocol,
everybody
who
had
Wormhole
tokens
just
they're
gone,
you
just
can't
use
them
anymore.
The
whole
ecosystem
just
went
up
in
smoke
and
change.
Kramer
wanted
to
do
the
same
thing
at
first.
A
He
wanted
to
Fork
be
cash,
which
is
a
JavaScript
full
node
for
for
Bitcoin,
Cash,
There's
Bitcoin
and
be
cash
and
and
do
the
same
thing
embed
the
simple
Ledger
protocol
into
that
full
node
and
I've
with
everything
I
had
I
was
against
that
and
I
was
like.
No.
We
need
to
make
it
a
separate
indexer
that
just
talks
to
the
full
node
via
the
RPC
and
that
way
they're
Loosely
coupled
and
if
one
happens,
the
other,
it
doesn't
impact
the
other
one.
A
And
now
we
can
move
this
indexer
and
you
know
we
can
use
different
types
of
nodes.
I
think
you
know,
if
you
take
a
minute
to
appreciate
the
history
of
it.
That
was
a
wise
choice
because
look,
it's
been
completely
abandoned,
not
just
by
James,
but
he
passed
everything
to
JT
and
now
it's
been
abandoned
by
JT
and
everything
still
works,
everything's
still
working,
everybody
who
has
SLP
tokens
still
have
SLP
tokens,
and
so
I
think
that
that
history
has
shown
that
that
was
a
wise
design
decision
and
then
again
with
the
token
icons.
A
Someone
can
come
in
10
years
and
dust
off
the
code
and
everything's
still
going
to
work
because
it's
all
Loosely
coupled
and
you
know
it's
just
yeah
I
I
I,
just
what
you're
experiencing
is
the
repercussions
of
these
poor
design
choices.
B
I
didn't
know,
all
of
that
I
mean
I,
think
it's
fantastic
to
hear
it
and
it
seems
like
because
most
people
are
volunteers.
I
mean
I,
know,
there's
a
few
people
that
are
that
it's
so
easy
to
go
like
I'm,
not
getting
paid
for
this
so
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
another
thing.
You
know
I
feel
like
that's.
You
should
plan
on
that
happening
because
it's
more
likely
to.
A
B
Right
so
so
I
appreciate
that
perspective,
because
it
really
is
good
to
see
that
you
fought
for
this
and
I
I
still
I
see
a
lot
of
people
because
I'm
on
the
the
simple
Ledger
protocol,
telegram
group
and
I'm
on
the
smart,
bch
telegram
group
and
I'm.
You
know
and
I'm
I
I
love
to
hear
the
discussions
about
talking
about
cash
tokens
and
talk
about
that's
right,
but
rarely
do
they
talk
about
SLP
and
then,
when
Roger
asked
you
in
the
last
Bitcoin
hangout
click
on
cash
hangout
about
what's
going
on
with?
B
What's
the
what's
the
one
Flex
USD
yeah
like
and
you're
good,
you
didn't
stay
at
it.
Long
you're,
like
I,
there's
stuff
going
on
and
I
I
just
had
to
like
filter
it
out.
You
know,
basically,
that's
all
you
said
you
didn't
even
go
into
it
too
far.
Well,.
B
B
You
know
how
how
scalable
is
querying
an
address
with
you
know:
15
000
nfts,
and
you
know
how
long
does
it
take?
You
know
all
these
things
are
unknown
yet
for
at
least
for
me,
so
I'm,
probably
gonna,
splitting
a
user
that
might
have
multiple
wallets
an
on
sale
wallet.
A
primary
wallet
like
overflow
wallets
are
hidden
because
I
want
to
be
able
to
take.
If
someone
spams
you
with
a
bunch
of
things,
you
need
to
hide
them,
make
it
really
easy
to
click
a
button
and,
and
they
just
disappear
into
a
wall.
B
That's
not
queried
very
much.
There's
I
like
to
add
in
video
and
3D
objects,
and
this
is
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
talk
to
Aaron
about
like
how
do
we
make
sure
that
it's
easy
and
then
also
with
Launchpad
IP
things
like
that?
That's.
A
A
Yeah
yeah,
those
are
all
good
stuff,
I
mean
each
one
of
those
bullet
items
requires
some
pretty
serious
discussion,
but
I
think
I
have
been
through
the
School
of
Hard
Knocks
on
most
of
them
and
can
give
you
some
insight
on
on
most
of
them,
I
mean
I,
run
the
infrastructure
for
suite,
and
they
do
they.
A
They
put
out
a
ton
of
nfts,
but
and
in
the
past
that
was
a
problem
like
and
they
were
responsible
for
crashing
for
crashing
slpdb
a
few
times
and
and
they
throttled
back
their
nft
creation.
For
that
reason,
that's
why
they
only
do
I
think
5000
a
day
and
but
now
they're
running
on
the
psf,
SLP,
indexer
and
I
was
I.
A
Let
them
know
I'm
like
yeah
turn
it
up
guys
because,
like
those
limitations
are
gone
so
yeah
scaling
is
you
know
you
never
solve
scaling
like
the
minute
you
solve
scaling.
You
have
to
solve
scaling.
B
A
But
but
we're
looking
pretty
good,
like
that,
you
know
you
mentioned
that
hangout,
where
I
Roger
asked
me
about
flexusd,
and
it
was
just
like
I,
was
on
the
spot,
and
I
I
had
to
come
up
with
something
in
a
few
seconds
and
I
didn't
want
to
derail
a
conversation,
and
so
it
was
like.
I
was
like
if
you
do
the
same
things
that
they
did
then
you'll
get
the
same
results
that
they
got,
and
so
the
takeaway
there's
don't
do
what
they
did
like
they
look
at
look
at
tether.
A
Their
stable
coin
still
works
fine
and
because
they
weren't
doing
these
air
drops
every
hour.
That's
the
thing
that
killed
flexusd
and
they're,
the
only
ones
that
did
it
and
that's
why
they're
many
ones
that
suffer
huge.
B
C
B
Done
I
I
think
it's
probably
good
to
move
on
to
the
network
State.
If
there's
any
questions
from
anybody
inside
here
or
outside
about
own
rare,
you
know,
I
I'll
just
mention
this.
C
But
about
the
this,
how
to
see
scaling
somebody
need
to
maybe
I
don't
know
like
sponsor.
If
somebody
can
work
on
graphql
like
we're
up
or
around
your
indexer,
it
will
be
maybe
a
great
solution
like
if
you
remember
I
talked
one
time
about
the
graph.
C
These
guys
they
allow
everybody
to
create
their
own
sub
graph.
Like
now,
Aaron
will
be
interested
from
Hoxie
indexing,
some
kind
of
nfts,
so
he
can
create
his
own
like
just
sub
graph,
which
will
query
only
the
nfts
that
he
wants
and
if
it's
in
graphql
it
will
be
pretty
easy
to
be
integrated
in
different
contents,
because
the
result
will
come
in
the
common
format.
C
So
you
can
put
them
inside
like
this
Marketplace,
but
somebody
else
can
create
another
like
just
nft
Creator
or
something
something.
But
if
the
results
are
in
the
graphql
language,
it's
like
pretty
common
recently
used
in
most
of
the
front
ends,
so
I
think
it
will
be
good
addition
to
the
indexer,
like
one
more
layer
on
the
top.
A
Yeah
yeah
I
mean
grab
I,
look
at
graphql
as
just
a
an
alternative
to
rest.
You
know
it's
like
potato
potato
like
they're
they're,
both
doing
the
same
thing
and
it's
just
it's
just
whatever
flavor
you
like
vanilla
or
vanilla
or
chocolate.
You
know
it's
still
ice.
C
A
C
The
most
the
most
of
the
people,
which
have
like
big
sites
they're
already
using
graphql
so
for
them,
will
be
easy
to
switch
to
bch
curing
with
the
same
tools,
then
just
to
ask
them.
Okay,
we
have
rest
interface,
so
please
use
this
one
I
know
it's
yeah
controversial
topic,
but
it's
interesting
to
to
think
about
this.
A
Hey
Jerry,
if
you
can
hear
me-
and
you
can
talk
I'd
love
to
for
you
to
tell
us
more
about
chain
graph-
I,
don't
know
I
assume
by
Jason.
You
mean
Jason
Dresner,
but
yeah
I
haven't
really
been
following
the
work
there.
You
know
the
graph.
The
graph
technology
is
I'm,
I'm
cautiously
optimistic.
A
lot
of
people
are
excited
about
it,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
it's
scalable
or
appropriate,
so
maybe
it
is,
and
I'm
I've
just
I
haven't,
had
a
need
to
really
look
into
it.
A
Yet
and
oh
yeah,
okay,
so
Jerry
says
the
chain
graph
is
a
documentation,
is
a
bit
lacking,
but
it's
able
to
index
index
exactly
what
we're
talking
about.
So
so
this
isn't
really
an
area
of
interest
to
me,
but
I
don't
want
to.
But
I
do
want
to
encourage
other
people
to
look
into
this
and
bring
their
insights
to
this
group.
So.
B
I
I
would
Jerry
asked
a
question
earlier
too
I
mean
I
do
want
to
make
it
so
someone
can
pay
with
their
phone
just
pay
whatever
paying
SLP
tokens
pay
and
bch
for
anything.
I,
don't
know
about
sending
it
directly
back
to
that
same
address
because
I'm
afraid
there's
so
many
wallets
that
will
destroy
the
SLP.
That
I
would
be
concerned
about
someone
paying
in
a
non-slp
aware.
A
Well,
just
to
wrap
this
up.
I
wanted
to
just
bring
I
brought
this
up
in
the
VIP
room
with
this,
so
the
network
state
is
a
book
that
was
recently
published
by
Bellagio
shrinivasan.
For
those
who
don't
know
who
he
is
he's.
A
extremely
successful
serial
entrepreneur
was
the
CTO
of
coinbase
for
a
while
was
a
general
partner
at
entries
and
Horowitz
he's
probably
near
the
top
of
my
top
10
list
of
smartest
people
on
Earth
who's
still
alive
right.
A
B
A
A
And
anyways
I
didn't
realize
this
existed
because
I
don't
think
it's
existed
for
very
long,
but
in
the
network
State
he
talks
about
the
evolution
of
so
in
a
nutshell.
This
is
how
I
summarize
the
networks,
an
a
network
state.
Is
it's
a
it's
social
media
media
with
a
cryptocurrency
and
a
moral
compass
you
take.
A
You
take
a
social
network,
you
give
it
a
native
cryptocurrency
and
you
give
it
a
moral
compass,
and
now
you
have
a
digital
nation,
and
and
so
that's
in
his
book,
he
talks
about
the
Evolution,
how
you
would
build
a
network
State
and
you
start
basically
with
a
social
network,
and
you
one
of
the
intermediate
steps
is,
is
a
is
a
network
archipelago
and
that's
what
this
is
starting
to
do.
Is
these
are
groups
that
sort
of
fit
that
description
of
a
network
archipelago
so
I
think
most?
A
If
not
all
of
these
actually
have
physical
locations
like,
whereas
I
think,
there's
prospera
is
I've
been
following
these
guys
pretty
closely
they're
in
Honduras,
and
so
they
are
actually
an
island.
A
There's
special
economic
zone
off
the
coast
of
Honduras
and
and
there's
a
few
at
like
Satoshi
Island
there's
a
few
of
these
that
are
so
I
know
some
of
them,
if
not
all
of
them
actually
have
physical
locations
and
and
a
lot
of
them
are,
you
know,
started
of
a
Libertarian
bent
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
this
up,
because
in
the
same
way
that
I'm
studying
Dao's,
if
anybody's
been
in
the
telegram,
Channel
they've
they've
seen
me
sharing
videos
about,
yearn,
who
I
think
is
a
Dao
that
has
got
a
lot
of
stuff
figured
out
not
just
in
terms
of
the
administration
stuff
using
contracts,
but
also
just
their
approach
to
organizing
work
and
their
philosophy
of
why
people
are
working
and
how
to
compensate
them.
A
So
I'm,
getting
a
lot
of
inspiration
from
here
endow
but
I
the
network
state
is
this.
Is
this
is
more
just
something
it's
more
like
a
spectator
sport
like
I,
don't
necessarily
suggest
that
we
try
and
start
our
own
network
state,
but
we
should
definitely
be
paying
attention
to
this
because
we
can
partner
with
some
of
these
organizations
and
yeah.
It's
just
very.
It's
just
is
absolutely
fascinating
to
me
like,
like
the
the
I
mean.
A
This
is
not
just
a
doubt
if
a
Dao
is
like
a
web
3
version
of
a
company,
a
network
state
is
a
web
3
version
of
a
country,
and-
and
these
are
actual
like-
and
you
know
when
it
starts
to
turn
into
actual
physical
locations.
A
That
really
makes
me
get
interested
because,
because
now
they're
they
exist
in
Meet
space
they're,
not
just
on
the
Internet.
It's.
B
Absolutely
amazing
I
mean
one
of
the
points
that
I
felt
like
I
I
haven't
really
finished
the
book,
but
I
read
the
first
bit.
One
of
this
absolutely
amazing
to
me
was
the
idea
that
of
a
hundred
of
the
196
countries
that
exist,
38
percent
have
less
than
a
hundred
thousand
people
in
them.
So
it's
not
like
like
this
is
crazy.
You
have
to
have
four
million
people
before
you
can
create
something.
B
How
big
are
some
of
our
our
current
things
like
on
telegram,
the
bch
group
and
telegram
is
3
500.,
so
I
mean
it's
already
bigger
than
some
countries,
not
not
I'm.
Just
saying
that,
there's
some
surprising
things
that
are
saying
you
know
what
this
is
far
more
feasible
than
someone
would
think
on.
First
glance,.
A
Yeah
he
goes
into
this
like
because
how
do
you
define
a
country
well
or
how
do
you
define
a
nation?
A
Because
there
are
many
nations
on
Earth
that
do
not
have
physical,
like
they're,
they're
they're,
you
know
genetic
lineages
of
people,
but
they
they
don't
have
any
physical
location
like
I
mean
Israel
was
kind
of
like
that
for
a
while
and
now
they've
kind
of
taken
over
the
Palestinian,
and
now
the
Palestinians
kind
of
don't
have
a
place,
and
but
there's
plenty
of
like
African
tribes
that
have
been
dislocated
or
Native
American
tribes
that,
like
they
still
exist,
are
still
people
of
that
lineage
who
identify
with
that
nation
and
they
do
not
have
geographic
location,
but
they
are
still
a
nation.
A
You
know
and
then
there's
like
so
there's
all
these.
You
know
like
everything
once
you
really
start
to
scratch
on
the
surface
of
a
word,
you
realize
it
gets
pretty
squishy
right.
C
It's
interesting
like
the
the
main
points
now
which
are
like
like
conflict
points
are
like
food,
energy
and
money,
and
it's
interesting
how
these
groups
decided
these
three
problems,
because
it's
main
vectors
when
the
Deep
State
can
attack
right.
They
control
the
food
control
population,
control
the
how
to
see
the
energy
yeah.
You
control
everything
so
well
these
groups.
They
should
have
some
interesting
Solutions
around
these
three
points.
Yeah.
A
This
is
super
cyberpunk,
but
I
was
telling
Aaron
Shoemaker
that
I've
been
listening
to
Mark
Andreessen
of
Andreessen
Horowitz,
and
he
is
a
proponent
of
these
of
this
new
way
of
constructing
a
nuclear
facility
where
you
basically
dig
a
hole
and
and
everything's,
and
you
line
it
with
concrete
and
you
put
in
the
nuclear
thing
and
you
press
start
and
then
you,
you
never
touch
it
and
if
anything
goes
wrong
or
it
just
goes
to
the
end
of
the
life
either
way,
you
never
dig
it
up,
there's
no
waste
because
everything's
contained
and
it's
just
there
and
if,
if
something
goes
wrong,
it
has
all
these
passive
cooling
systems
built
into
it.
A
And
so
you
you
if,
if
something
goes
wrong
or
it
ends
up,
you
know
just
running
to
the
end
of
life.
You
can
just
build
and
it's
about
the
size
of
a
building.
You
just
like
a
building
size,
hole
in
the
ground
and
you
just
leave
it
like,
and
so
there's
no
waste
and
and
you
can
use
conventional
nuclear
technologies
or
you
can
use
newer
like
thorium,
based
Technologies
or
helium-3,
which
is
something
that
China's
getting
very
excited
about.
A
They
all
work,
but
this
idea
of
putting
it
in
a
hole
and
like
never
opening
the
hole
again.
There's
some.
Is
it
something
that
he
he's
a
proponent
of?
And
so,
if
you
take
a
place
like
prospera
and
it's
a
special
economic
zone,
if
they
got
the
ability
to
put
in
one
of
these
micronuclear
now
they
can
produce
their
own
energy.
They
can
mine
Bitcoin
with
it
to
produce
money,
they
can
grow
their
own
food
and
so
you've
got
energy
money
and
food
and
they're
all
totally
self-contained
in
a
very
small
geographic
location.
A
A
Yeah,
so
it's
it's
exciting
to
see
what
will
happen
in
the
future
and-
and
you
know
just
the
fact
that,
like
these,
these
some
of
these
things,
like
prospera
they've,
existed
for
a
while.
It's
just
because
Balaji
released
this
book
and
it's
like
getting
the
meme
out
there
into
the
the
global,
no
sphere
that
these
places
who
now
exist
have
a
rallying
point
like
that.
A
Dashboard
is
the
rallying
point
for
all
these
sort
of
people
who
are
aping
into
a
network
State
before
they
even
like
had
a
term
for
it,
and
so
just
the
fact
that
people
now
have
a
rallying
point
is
exciting.
To
me
absolutely.
B
Yeah
I'm
gonna
finish
the
book
of
all
of
having
more
talk
about,
I
mean
I
I.
Think
he's
brought
up
already
in
just
the
first
I
like
what
he
did
too
I.
Don't
know
if
you
saw
it
he's
he
doesn't
like
you,
don't
just
read
the
book.
There's
a
one
sentence
version,
there's
a
four
sentence
version,
there's
an
essay
and
then
there's
the
whole
book,
so
you
can
actually
take
go
in
as
far
as
you
want
to
you
want
the
executive
summary
you
can
read
the
one
sentence:
yeah.
A
A
Networkstate.Com,
it's
all
online.
You
have
to
buy
it,
though
I
do
I
I
like
having
it
on
the
Kindle
format,
but
it's
all
online.
If
you
want
to
read
it
and
that's
probably
better
because
he's
gonna
he
said,
he's
gonna
continuously
update
the
online
version.
C
It's
interesting:
can
you
combine
this
with
like
token
tokenized
Gates
like
if
you
have
some
kind
of
nft,
you
can
read
just
the
short
version.
If
you
buy
more
expensive
nft,
you
can
see
more
from
the
book.
A
State
either
can
can
is
sustainable
or
it's
not
sustainable
like
and
it
goes
away
if
it's
not
it's
very,
very
capitalistic
in
in
that
regard,
and
then
what
you're
talking
about
the
nfts,
not
so
much
with
portions
of
the
book,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I've
heard
Balaji
talk
about
a
couple
times
now.
Is
these
these
Network
archipelagos?
A
They
may
not
be
welcome
in
a
lot
of
geographic
locations
by
a
lot
of
Nations
that
feel
threatened
by
it,
and
so
one
of
the
things
he
expects
to
see
is
this
integration
with
VR,
where
it's
like,
if
you,
if
VR,
continues
to
be
more
integrated
in
the
day-to-day
life
and
we
all
start
walking
around
with
like
a
glass
or
we
used
to
use
our
phone
to
like
scan
stuff
and
look
at
augmented
reality.
Stuff
he's
like
he's,
like
you
know,
one
of
the
examples
he
uses
is
like
Facebook
and
Google.
They.
A
They
have
campuses
all
over
the
world
and
they're
like
they're,
almost
like
a
a
sovereign
state
within
a
state,
and
when
you
go
there,
you
have
your
Facebook
badge
and
everything
just
works.
It
doesn't
matter
like
which
actual
physical
location,
it
is
and
he's
like.
Imagine
that,
but
but
more
adversarial
like
the
state
doesn't
really
want
to
exist.
A
So
it's
it's
a
non-descript
building
in
some
random
Business
Park
and
the
only
way
you
even
know
what
it
is
is
if
you
have
an
nft
if
you're
part
of
the
citizenry
and
then
you
can
like
scan
stuff
for
augmented
reality,
and
you
see
like
a
glowing
logo
on
the
building-
that's
not
really
there.
It
only
shows
up
in
augmented
reality
and
only
if
you're
a
holder
of
the
nft,
and
so
that's
how
some
of
these
groups
could
kind
of
go
underground,
and
so
that's
an
interesting
sort
of
idea.
A
B
B
A
That's
so
that's
that's
when
the
state
forces
you
to
do
it.
You
know,
that's
that's
the
mark
of
the
beast,
but
you
know
one
of
the
things
I'm.
The
reason
I'm
excited
about
this,
this
deck
side
Builder
the
technology
behind
it's
not
because
I
don't
care
about
the
decks
I.
You
guys
know
I
want
to
get
to
this
decentralized
Craigslist,
because
I
think
that
my
my
personal
view,
I,
don't
expect
everyone
to
hold
this
view.
A
But
my
personal
view
is
that
most
of
the
societal
problems
we
have
today,
it
could
be
solved
if
we
just
simply
traded
amongst
ourselves,
rather
than
going
to
the
grocery
store
for
everything
or
Amazon.
For
everything.
If
you
know
like
you
know,
you
guys
have
heard
me
have
this
example
is
I,
keep
a
pretty
big
stash
of
frozen
pizzas
and
ice
cream
on
this
remote
island,
where
there's
no
store
and
I'd
love.
For
you
know
my
neighbors
just
be
able
to
open
an
app
and
like
buy
a
pizza
from
me
right.
A
They
know
where
it
is
come
on
over
and
grab
it
and
you
know,
and
I'll
probably
have
it
under
camera.
In
case
anybody
tries
to
mess
with
it,
but
this
should
really
just
be
that
simple.
It
should
just
be
a
very
low
friction
experience
for
my
neighbor
down
the
road
to
buy
a
frozen
pizza
from
me.
B
Yeah,
especially
if
they're
hungry,
and
they
don't
they
can't
get
across
to
the
mainland
right
I
mean
yeah.
There
is
actually
it
sounds
silly,
because
if
you
live
in
a
suburban
area
like
me,
well,
you
know
you
could
walk
down
the
store.
What's
the
problem,
but
that's
not
true
for
everywhere,
make
it
flexible,
so
the
individuals
can
decide
how
to
make
that
happen
for
their
society.
B
A
And
so
that
you
know,
I
go
back
to
Argentina
and
Venezuela,
and
you
know
people
in
Ukraine
right
now,
like
like
everything,
is
on
turned
on
their
head
and
just
getting
groceries
is
a
Monumental
task,
so
something
like
that
could
make
a
huge
difference
in
the
quality
of
someone's
life
in
those
locations.
C
It's
interesting
also,
if
you
remember,
when
the
the
Kobe
stuff
started,
there
was
some
like
simulation
how
the
virus
will
propagate
fast
or
slow.
So
when
there's
the
central
location
where
everybody
is
going,
it's
spreading
faster
right.
But
if
there
is
like
this
peer-to-peer
stuff,
you
can
just
go
to
your
neighbor,
and
maybe
this
will
slow,
also
the
kovitz
propagation
right.
So
at
least
it
makes
it
a
lot
of
problems
right.
B
I
mean
at
least
it
makes
it
more
sustainable
because
it
doesn't
require
these
big
Central
things
to
be
able
to
do
it
so
right,
applied
to
covet
but
applied
to
anything
else
where
the
grid
has
an
issue,
and
you
can
well,
we
make
it
so
you
can
just
go
to
your
neighbor
right.
Those
kind
of
things
should
actually
work.
This
would
start
to
align
that.
A
Yeah
yeah
so
anyways.
That's
that's
my
motivation
for
why
I'm
doing
a
lot
of
this
yeah
all
right.
Well,
that's
probably
a
good
point
to
wrap
it
up.
This
has
been
a
great
meeting
guys
thank
you
Aaron
for
sharing
and
please
everybody
who
watches
us
get
out
there
and
play
with
the
decks
and
with
the
the
token
maker
and
give
us
some
feedback
on
the
telegram.
Channel
and
yeah
I'm
excited
to
see
what
people
build
and
where
it
goes
from
here.
We're
really
gaining
some
momentum.